Understanding the New Global Power Structure - Part 2 Truth Detective Stephanie Lee - Ep 3

0:00 Welcome to Spoken Life. Thank you for joining me again. This is episode three of the series. My name is Rob Greenley and I'm joined again in this episode by Stephanie Lee, who is the Truth Detective, and we're going to discuss the realization and the discovery of the possibility that maybe we have significantly changed individually as humans and how we see the world around us and maybe how shocking that is. So I hope you enjoy this conversation. So let's get started, and I appreciate you being here. Thank you. The inspiration of spoken word tech and connection Spoken.

0:43 Spoken Stephanie, We're back together again, Yes, talcome more in depth discussion around trust and. Truth, trusty, truthy kind of things right that our podcasts are about. You have the trust and I have the truth and they marry each other, get together and form a wonderful connection with what we know and know to be very right in our society. It's really an important component of how all of us look at the world and how we trying to evaluate the information that we have right coming at us, which is coming at us at a level and degree and volume that is a clip speed. It's a little overwhelming.

1:28 Yes, Oh, I think it's not just us that feel overwhelmed, I think chaotic the things that are coming out, and it's you just don't know what to believe. You all know the truth, you don't know that you don't have the trust. It's really changed our whole way of looking at things, and it's very scary what we're being told and how we have to interpret all the things that we're we have to go through. It's a really scary time. Yeah, And I was just thinking about it, and we were just talking about it earlier, and I know this is the second part of two episodes here talking about this kind of deep topic of trust and truth. And it seems like increasingly I'm starting to really look at the world quite differently as opposed to maybe ten years ago, when I think we all and maybe I'm reflective of some of you or maybe a large percentage of view that saw the world in a much more idyllic light in the past, where.

2:36 We traditional values, traditional like. Its saw so much traditional values, but we just saw the world as more stable. And but maybe that was a mirage. And I think that's the question that I'm increasingly asking myself. And it's a little bit not to be negative here, and I'm not trying to be negative, because part of talking about this is trying to open the door towards trying to rationalize how I'm feeling now as opposed to how I used to feel. Is what I used to feel just as much of a feeling of a lie as what I see the world is today is. And maybe what we're really coming into is a new time of awareness and enlightenment about the human condition and the world that we live in and how it maybe wasn't as idyllic as we had thought it was. Right.

3:33 And when I say traditional values, I mean like you're going to know things are happening Christmas and all these things, and Jeneo Christian values wake up and know things are going to be the way they've always been. And what we're discovering is that's not true. We wake up in a chaotic mode and not know what the next thing is. We're going to be told what the next thing is going to be that we have to endure, and I think that's a sad state of affairs. When we were growing up in the seventies and eighties is when I grew up, when you grew up, And I think that we had a way of just thinking about life that it wasn't going to change. We knew that things were as they were, and we had our problems, but they were pretty good. I mean, now we're being thrown things every day that it's, oh my goodness, I didn't see that coming, and how is that possible? And I've been lied to about this thing that I always believed, So I do think. I mean, I'm really very fearful of the future of what it holds because of what we've been told hasn't necessarily been truthful, or we can't trust what we've been told. That's the whole idea of what my feeling is about mine when I do my podcast.

5:04 I know that's what you do when you do your podcast. Is the whole eroding of trust, the eroding of truth. What is going on and the traditional values mean that we just have these things that we always knew we're going to be there, We're going to enjoy life, have the happiness that we have on a daily basis. Yeah, we might go to work, but we get something out of it. We get a joy. Hopefully we get a paycheck at the end of the pay period and we can utilize it any way we want, and all these wonderful things. There's holidays, and there's joy and laughter. I don't see that anymore. I see it as being just very dark at dark times, the dark ages. Really.

5:54 But is that because we're increasingly as a civilization and being able to see the truth about how our governments and how corporations and how this dynamic that happens has been solely manipulated. I think that a lot of degree we're seeing the world's really come to this realization that maybe this government corporate partnership that we're seeing develop, and it's been developing for many years now, it's like an evolutionary move that's it's just reached a point where it's starting to become really obvious that our government does not represent the people anymore. It's got its own bubble around it, right, and that bubble is very much like a large corporation.

6:52 I used to work at a huge company called Microsoft, and that was very much bubble. People that were inside the Microsoft bubble did not see the world in the same way that people outside the bubble saw. Why do you think that. Was because it's the very structure of a corporation. It's almost like a country. So if you actually I saw a chart here recently that compared the biggest corporations in the world to countries, and the top ten biggest corporations had more gross domestic product than fifty countries in the world, right, I mean, so in some ways, I think what we're seeing is corporations are becoming multinational countries of sorts. And these are like I think a good analogies that they're a bubble amongst themselves. But what's starting to happen now is that those bubbles are starting to seep into become really part of government, right and so.

8:03 Or have they always been? And I think it's been. I mean to some degree, but I think it's progressed over a period of time of integration. You look at what we've learned with Twitter and Facebook and the snowed and stuff that came out about the government surveilling all of us and things like that, and that's a progression that's been happening over many decades of our government solely but surely distrusting their people, and increasingly because of this partnership between corporate and government. You have to ask the question, who's really running the show? Is it the government or is it the corporations? And I think increasingly you can make a case that the corporations have more power now than the government does.

8:52 If you look at that chart that you are talking about, it has a top down fact where actually the corporations are lower, and then it goes government, and then it goes the people or as they like to call it, the serfs the people. I think you're talking about like a pyramid chart that shows who's at the top, what's the power structure of what's happening in the world right now, And there's this group at the top that's that has really population by billionaires and elites and corporate leaders and government leaders that have all collaborating together. And then you basically move down this it's a little bit like the sad the standard American diet, right, it's the breakdown of that. And toward the bottom of the pyramid is the citizenry or the people on this planet. And then as you move up the chart, the second level of is government.

9:48 Right, and the third up is the corporations. The government much more powerful than the people now. So but above that you start moving into a there types of groups that are more linked with corporations. Right, or give corporations money, or. The corporations are giving government money now through either campaign donations or direct sponsorship, like the FDA in America. Yes, that's a good example. The CDC is now funded by supposedly the corporations that they're supposed to be overseeing or regulating. So who's run on the show? Is it the corporations or is it the agencies?

10:31 We the people don't really have any anything right, and I think we're discovering that more. It's become a sad state of affairs when you can knock out a certain amount of people, the middle class or anybody, and it's like you pass that whole line of people and you go right up to the next people, and I say, you're lucky that you're able to do this. It's no longer, Oh, I have this wonderful life, this wonderful job, and I'm doing things that are good for me, and the government cares about me. No, not anymore. The powers that be are coming out and we're seeing them more and more, and people are seeing more and more that they have less and less say and what goes on in life and their government, and much less trust right and they're finding out that the truth that they always known has been not true at all. It's really a sad state of affairs when you look at how we have always known things to be right. Stability, you know, you have you work, you have holidays, you have joy in your life, you have happiness, you have animals, all this stuff, and now it's what is going to be taken away from me next? What is anything? What is what am I going to have? How much money am I going to have?

11:56 Are they going to take away the money? Are they going to make money right? Or the digital currency that's going to be regulated by people that are by the state or by the World Bank. You really don't know, We really don't know anything. It's creating a chaotic atmosphere of I hate to say it's but just hatred and just not knowing and who do you trust and who do you believe in? And what truth is true? What's a lie? What's a truth? We really honestly have no idea. And that's creating a lot of just heartache and chaos.

12:37 And that also created a lot of alternative media because people do want to get the truth there. People do want others to see you can't trust mainstream media anymore. That's another thing. Mainstream media is controlled by corporations, by government, by what certain people that are quote unquote higher up than we are, which is not the way government's supposed to be. Government is supposed to serve the people, not the people serving the government. It's totally backwards, and it's just I feel that if it weren't for this alternative media, we wouldn't know what happens in the universe are supposed to be. There's a law of polarity, right, If there is bad, there has to be good. If there's up, there has to be down, and that has been eroded completely.

13:31 We only see bad things coming going forward. We are less and less seeing good things coming out of our lives. It's really a wake up call, it's really I mean, all I can think of is it's really bad that people have less and less say in their lives. It's becoming a reality that everybody is seeing now. Everybody is seeing the lessening of choices, the lessening of having a good life. I mean, it's that pyramid wants us. I believe to have a plautalitarian regime where we just listen to what we're being told and we are supposed to go along with it. It's really a sad state of affairs.

14:19 Yeah, it's such a complicated subject. And I know one of the purposes of this podcast, Spoken Life is to inspire people to use their voices to speak up and to share their thoughts and share ideas towards what will better their lives and better their futures. And I think it is a responsibility of all of us to share what we've learned and to share maybe a better path forward. I sure hope so of how. These developments in our world are coalescing right now. I mean I could I probably talk for two hours on how I think about the convergence of AI technology and how our government is I believe at this point already in full control.

15:16 Of AI, absolutely, and they have been. Think about the partnership between corporations and the government that already. Exists right and here I say that they have been in control. And I do believe that AI has been their main topic when technocratic belief came out in the nineteen thirties and the nineteen forties, they've just ramped it up and made us stuffed it down our throats. Recently well, that. The government is controlling AI. I think what the government is doing is influencing political influence into the AI. And it's like it did with Twitter X, like it did like it's currently doing or continuing to do with faceboo, book or any of these platforms. There is a partnership between those two and there's a political agenda from the governments that is permeating into the corporations. So there's a It's basically like what was said with the World Economic Forum, there's a private public partnership, right and stakeholder capitalism. What's happening now. Stakeholder capitalism is really saying that corporations are the stakeholders in government now, and that is I think we all have to evaluate whether or not that's the kind of world structure that we want because our leaders are taking us down that path.

16:41 Are we even going to have a choice? Yeah, I mean, well that's the scary thing. This whole thing about corporations is that the people don't have a choice. In corporations. You're either told what to do, or you're fired, or you're you know, you're dispensed of. And that's not the way. I mean, see a lot of compassion in corporation. Right, and that's always been the truth. But the thing is that we were always told that the government works for us, but now, hey, we work for the government. We have to listen to what people that supposedly are above us, and we have to just conform and not You know, I. Think that the government actually now works for the corporation.

17:21 You're right, You're right, yes, But that's the reality of it. We're not in control of our life anymore like we thought we were. Life is not as cheery and merry as we thought. When I wake up in the morning, I say what now, And it's always what dystopian crap do I have to live with? Now? That has been has changed overnight? It's that quick. It's happening at lightning speed. I think we are. I mean, there are a lot of independent voices out there that are sharing a reality that maybe we already are living in. What is quote unquote called the police state. Yes, basically a government. So if you think about the power of the corporations and the power of government to have law enforcement, so you have almost like a military to support the rule of law per se, in combination with corporations, you can totally see how that would be like a checkmate yes on the population right that the government has the ultimate enforcement power for laws that then the corporations can actually basically right the laws. And then if they pay the government leaders enough to pass the laws. So you can see this partnership developing into being extremely powerful opposing and controlling

18:52 the people. And I think that we still have a chance in this country. And this is where this podcast comes into play about talking about each one of us has a spoken life. We have the ability to communicate what we want to see in the world, and in some ways, I think we still have some level of voice to make things more level out there, level the playing. Field of it's getting harder and harder. And the longer we hold back from this from sharing these ideas and sharing what's really going on, I mean, I think we're starting to see the American people and the global population start to awaken.

19:38 The Great Awakening as they call it. Around what has been going on and what is going on? And I guess the bigger question is it too late to do anything about it? Just because the power that exists within government and corporations now is so great. It's money and power, and it's things that we don't have access to right, we only have so much power, we only have so much money. But as has come out, we are talking about people that are above us, that have so much money and so much power, way more than we ever thought. And it's coming out. But I believe it's coming out through alternative media, through people that are as dissatisfied as you and I are, and we can only express it so much. But as is coming out, Like you said, we don't, we should not, and we ought to not. We really need not be afraid to speak what we are discovering. We've grown up and someone along the way told us to be polite and to now rock the boat. I was always told don't rock the boat, don't tell your real feelings. I feel like right now you can't be afraid to tell your real how you really feel. And maybe other people who don't feel the same way or don't know the same things, maybe you can. You and I can shed light on what we've discovered and not be afraid. A lot of

21:10 people are afraid that they're going to be chess sized and canceled. We just have to be willing to take that. Yeah, but we have to be willing to take that chance, the chance that we have. We didn't grow up with an environment where we were told to stop rocking the boat or stop talking about this, or someone's going to hear this, or to be quiet about it. That no longer applies because these rules that the upper echelon or these things that the upper echelon have made as aware of, they're not being quiet about. They're telling us what's going to happen. So why not do we Why don't we have the same choice to speak out about what we know?

21:55 And we do know a lot. It's becoming more and more. We're becoming more and are aware of the deceit, deception, the wrongness of what is going on, and we have to do something individually and then collectively to help the society not be taken over by people that don't have our best interests at heart. And I do have to acknowledge that there are a lot of people out there that are working inside of corporations that they feel at risk for their famili's income and careers by speaking out and by saying something that may be deemed inappropriate as a representative of one of these very powerful corporations, so that that gets back that's an indication or reflection of this power structure that exists, is that if you're in a dictatorial kind of authoritarian corporate structure, free speech is not really free on the docative options for many people. So this independent media thing is really that puts the onus on people that are working for themselves, that are creating content themselves, that are independent of these huge corporations to rally.

23:19 The troops at risk. To oppose this and maybe vote for candidates for leadership that represent their values and not so much the approved establishment candidates. Now granted, I think as we look at the presidential election coming up in the United States here, I think that there is some manipulation that's going on around candidates. You can see all the investigations that are going after Donald Trump and how certain manipulations are happening, and how our existing president is may not make it to the elect.

24:01 For many reasons. For I mean, it's not anything, it's not like anything probably is going to bad to happen, is going to happen to him. I think it's more to do with it he's going to be replaced with someone else. That's pretty oftenus run, right, So. I think we're all in this kind of what does twenty twenty four look like? I mean, how are we going to come out of twenty twenty four? What's going to be the reality on January twentieth, twenty twenty five, right when the new president takes office. Very scary times, and I have to ask this, really, this other question is I think increasingly we have to question really how important a US president is anymore if you really think about the power structure that exists in the world right now and how we're moving towards I believe, more of a global government. The US president, I think is has lost a lot of power in the world, and I think the behavior of the United States has eroded our global kind of esteem. Right people are not looking up to the United States as much as they used to as a representative of the values that the rest of the world would like. And so I don't even know how important the US president is anymore in the scheme of things. I think it's more important that we focus on who's behind the power, and I think increasingly that's more of the corporations, and the government is like a

25:32 lapdog to these corporations that are I mean, I think in the next few years, corporations are going to be beyond what we see with Apple right now three trillion dollars. They're going to be seven ten trillion dollar companies. I mean their speculation that Tesla could be a ten trillion dollar company in the next ten years, So you think about when Apple probably won't be at that level in my view, but it could be, right. And then there's Microsoft and there's other corporations like that that will continue to grow because they're getting heavily invested into AI technology. And you have to really wonder funded if AI is really already owned or semi and I think I mentioned this earlier, semi controlled by the government already, and the AAI is going to become a real tool of corporations to more rapidly be able to implement these controls over the population based on integration of technology and also monitoring of all of us. I'm not as worried about China as people tend to do that. I think we like to generate enemies to keep people divided and things like that.

26:57 I just don't see China as being our I don't see, you know, Iran is our enemy. I don't see really anybody else. It increasingly is my perception that the world is working together. Yes they are, and the people of this world are. The enemy, oh definitely of them them. Yeah yeah. And so I think if we can get ourselves positioned to think like that, I think it will help us clearly understand that we need to get more involved in the process of governing and try and shift ourselves into more self governance and get more involved and get better candidates into the political process, because I'm not sure that the good candidates are getting supported in the democratic process.

27:51 Right now, right, But how do you do that? I think the candidates have already been picked by the government and the corporations. I think they know who they want, and I do think the president and all the higher ups in government, I actually don't think they have been chosen necessarily by the voters. I definitely think that's already decided, and it's already decided who is going to be in charge, and I don't necessarily think it's who we think it is. The president has a very limited amount of power, and what people have said is that he's more like a puppet to these higher entities, and that he only represents he's only at a mouthpiece for what he's been told to do. And I think that, you know, the privately owned companies or organizations like the World Economic Forum, like the World Health Organization, are really running the show. It's no longer a decision that people will make, and it's no longer a decision that. Let me think about this, there's no longer a decision that we have a choice.

29:06 I mean, it's no longer us having a choice and who to vote for because things have already been decided for us. I think that's pretty obvious. But they've been decided by so many people. We talk about the deep state, and it's not a fake thing. We talk about the deep state. Everybody didn't believe the deep state, but they're pretty powerful and heavy duty, and the deep state, the established media, that kind of stuff is not going away. It's going to get worse and worse, and there's going to be less and less power given to the people like you and me, and there's going to be more and more things coming out. You mentioned China, and you mentioned how we are not against China, but China and the United States and other countries work with China. They want a totalitarian world to take charge. They want us to be surveilled. They want us to not have a choice about what we do or what we say. They want us to be serfs. And that is their whole plan.

30:08 That has been their plan for at least one hundred years. I mean you can tell that by if you read good examples like A Brave New World by Eldus Huxley, who started this whole technocratic situation, also George Orwell nineteen eighty four, perfect example of a totalitarian, authoritarian Marxist belief unless a person telling the government what they want. We're not like that anymore. We're becoming more of a police state. We're becoming more of a you have to listen to us because we know what's best for you. I think that's really a sad state of affairs where we have come to the realization that we don't have we don't really have a choice. We can have an opinion, but we don't really have a choice. You can have a voice, but that doesn't matter so much anymore. It's really quite devastating and it hurts everybody it's going to be in that existence that we have, the worldwide existence that we have.

31:03 It's really a bad it's really a bad just thing that we can see the corporate, as you mentioned, the corporate and the government taking over and maybe always have been have always been in charge, right, have always had that, But maybe it's been a false believe that we people, that we the people had choices. Maybe we've never had choices, And maybe this all the AI and all this technocratic information has always been there, but it's been ramped up recently because they want to do their things before twenty thirty or twenty fifty. They have an agenda and they want to reach that agenda by a certain time period. Like they're running out, like their time is running out to hit all these big points that they want to hit.

31:45 I mean, it's really it's a scary time to be Yeah. I think if you look at it from a higher perspective of all of the spectrum of changes that are on the horizon here, I can understand a certain amount of urgency that they may be seeing for making changes because what they're seeing is this convergence of this environmental concern in combination with technological innovation, and how there may be this perception that there is going to be a huge number of people that are going to basically help be frank about it, lose their jobs, lose their purpose.

32:25 Yeah, that's another thing. And I think that there's concern that there's going to be an increasing limit around resources and we may need to shift towards a different kind of global architecture for civilization. And I do hear discussion around this almost like a vision of a utopia right of sorts, which is always a difficult concept if you compare it to like communism and things like that. But I think technological utopia could be structured as like a totalitarian structure, but it doesn't necessarily have to be like that. It can be structured where it's And I've heard this idea that's been put out there about a resource based structure to our world that's really based on not so much a monetary structure like we have today of debt and money and all this stuff. But it we may be moving into an era of unlimited resources, unlimited energy, unlimited everything. And it raises the question of why so many people feel like that it's necessary for us to reduce population, which we're already on track too. Right, there's fewer people. There's going to be fewer people in many countries around the world where there's going to be more people in other countries of the world. Just a couple of examples of this is what's happening between China and India. India is now the world's largest country. Now China is in a state

33:58 of population collapse. So here we are all worried about China, But in the next ten to fifteen years, China's whole economy could collapse. Right, So how powerful is China going to be in the long run. I don't know that anybody really knows the answer to that, but I think that it's trending towards being a country that isn't going to be what everybody says it is right now. So why are we making them this opponent to us? Now? Granted they have a different kind of societal structure. And then you look at a country like Japan, they're in a massive population collapse, But that's just because it's an aging population and there's not new people being born, and that applies to everywhere. That even applies here in the US.

34:41 There's just not young people are just not having babies. Right, But that has to do with the one child policy that a lot of countries adhere to. China's changed that though, Yeah. And Japan had it too. I mean they, I mean, I do believe that they, the people that are in the up for echelon, have decided that deppopulation is the way to go. And they've always had that agenda for one hundred years, if not more. They've always had that a belief in the back of their heads that we are over you, We're done as far as natural resources, and we just are not needed. Humans are not needed.

35:24 They are being taken over by AI or by others. I mean, if there's gonna be robots. And this is another thing that Tesla has stated that maybe a lot of people don't realize, is that their goal is to have ten billion robots on this planet. That doesn't fare very well for us. Doesn't mean yeah, I mean that's more robots in this planet than the humans. And part of what has been talked about was is that there would be two robots for every human on the planet. Yeah, so. What are the consequences of that? Now, Granted, that's probably not going to happen. Probably even if it ever happens, that's probably not going to happen the next twenty years. Okay, but there could be a time when we that these robots look indistinguishable from humans.

36:08 And the acceleration of I mean, they really accelerated the innovation, whatever it is. They've accelerated their time span, so it happens quicker. And I do think that, I mean, I personally believe that there will be some sort of a robot that takes over. That's like we're seeing in Amazon. We're seeing that eliminate people from the workforce. Oh, that's already happening. Right, And what does that do when you eliminate jobs? It eliminates food that you can put on the table. It eliminates the fact that you don't want to have children because you can't afford to. It's a it's all leaning towards the AI taking over and the depopulation taking over.

36:50 And that is exactly what I think the whole agenda, if you want to call it, Agenda twenty one, Agenda twenty thirty, at twenty fifty, it is all about depopulation. It's just accelerated and we can see it now. We couldn't see it before. Now we were sheltered from it. We were in the dark about what's happening with AI. I think that that technology was always there, as I mentioned with such books as Brave New World, and that was a very technocratic book, and that was along with George Orwell in nineteen eighty four. That was a lesson that we will have to learn and that was a warning, as George Orwell has said, that's a warning to civilization, to societies that if we don't do something about all these things that are coming into fruition now, the things that are coming into fruition now, you're going to happen the elimination of society, the elimination of what makes us have a good a good life, or what we consider very a good life that has a lot of values to it, has a lot of goodness in it. We don't have we don't necessarily have goodness in our life anywhere we look for all the bad things that are happening.

38:02 It's really a sad state of affairs. It's really it's actually really unfair to everybody except those people that are higher up that are gonna that are going to advance, that are going to have an advantage and they are going to live better without human beings or so they say, without mankind being around. Yeah, I mean what's the logical conclusion to having ten million robots that look like humans? We're basically being replaced. Yes, the big replacement theory, right, that's what they do. But these robots can be completely controlled, right, and humans have autonomous thought right now. Granted, who's to say that these robots or these these synthetic humans are not going to have independent thought too, but it is increasingly plausible that unlike or just like humans, we're being solely conditioned to be controlled. Right. So that is the grand or ambition of all this is that if the world is mostly populated by humanoid robots, then those robots will be able to work twenty four to seven, seven days a week for their owners, which would be the corporations.

39:22 And I think that you won't be able to distinguish eventually, you won't be able to distinguish a true human that we are now from the robots. It all looks so much like humans that it will be indistinguishable. It won't even look like they'll be perfect an I think, right, yes, but. Perfect in I think a big question about robots is will we progress to a point where humans it's not so much humans, but will the robots have differentiation amongst them as well, like humans have, right, will they have different color hair? Will they have different facial features? Will they? And how will that different different body may be seeing the next evolution of sentient humans is synthetic humans. And then as you look at what's happening with a neurallink or whatever, where the integration of the brain chip into the brain which creates this synergistic relationship with artificial intelligence that the humans that.

40:24 Are left, they are the useful basically. Synchronized with the network that runs or monitors the robot population. So we are becoming symbiosis with the robot population. Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that, But I also think that we're not going to be able, like you said, to distinguish between what's a person and what's a robot, because it's very much you don't want to scare the whole population into thinking everything's going to be a robot, So why not introduce people or robots that look just like people and you can't distinguish it. You're like everything as it always was, a workforce everything, but maybe not so it's very much a distrust and humanity. It's it's like I said, like I keep going back to this has always been the plan. This has always been what they have hoped for at world based on non human things.

41:21 And I with the neuralink, I think they I mean it came across as being to help people that have disabilities or to. I'm sure will, but I do think long term view of it. Right, and I do think it's it's to make it seem okay by humans. Hey, that's great that they can help a paralyzed person not be paralyzed. But that's just the starter. That's just if you have accepted, right, and that's just the starter of what can be done. That's just we believed in our hearts definitely that doctors were here to help us. The Hippocratic oath was do no harm. But with these a and we've certainly seen it with doctors recently, I do think they want to cause harm.

42:04 I do think they want to see depopulation and they don't care about how it happens. So it all feeds into the same exact thing. It's always fed into that. In the seventeen hundreds, you have Thomas MALTHEUS believing in depopulation, the loss of natural resources and that kind of thing, and that's where AI plays into it. They don't have to worry about losing the natural resources that the upper echelon loves so much. Right, they have us believing that it's all this climate change of CO two that's going to be great to not have anymore. But it's going to be the demise. It's going to be. It's starting to be seen and known that it's going to kill off a great amount of people. And AI is going to take over. AI is already in robots. AI is already taken over. We're just going to see and this is true an acceleration because AI gets.

43:08 Smarter and smarter, and it will very rapidly. It's already in the works and it's already what the as I call it. The higher echelon. The people that have the say and what we think and do have already have been dreaming. This is a dream come true for the people the powers that by this is almost too good to be true. This makes them just giddy with laughter when they think that they have control over us humans and they don't need us anymore. AI is definitely. Let's take it down to the level. These corporate leaders would love to have an army of robots.

43:50 Right, Oh, that's so scary. I mean, they don't have to pay benefits to them, they don't have to pay them a salary. Nope, they manufacture them and put them to work. Right. So, really, in a lot of ways, what we're seeing with the robotics is the next evolution of slavery. Yeah, what happens when the AI and who creates the algorithms or lets them do whatever? What happens when AI turns on us? On their leaders? It turns on their leaders, but turn on the humans? They say, Yeah, but the humans I don't think are going to be the ones that are going to perpetrate this on them. And I guess it gets back to whether AI can be controlled, right, is that it may be a similar replication to what we're seeing happen with humans now right, where they revolt against the control. Right, and eventually these robots have some ability to break out and have their own thoughts and their own emotions and their own sentient existence and they rebel against their over and the same thing, the same conflict that we're seeing happen right now between normal people and the corporations happens in the robot world too.

45:11 Right, I think that could definitely be. But right now I think robots are an AI and all this chat, GPT and all these things are being fed by out by people that don't necessarily have our best interests at heart. They are really being controlled. And if you go to AI right now and you you ask it a question, it'll say what has been put in, It'll say what they want you to believe. It's only going to get more and more. It's only going to get to the point where robots are are more in charge, and then who's in charge of it? And the robots become so powerful that they take their own their own individual sentient feelings and thoughts, and they overpower the people or the people in charge, like you said, and they become their own they become their own leader. Right, And that's scary.

46:10 That's a scary thought. What's really it's just but it's exactly the way we see it coming. We see it as being it's. Going to happen faster than it happened with the human population. It's way accelerated. Yeah, yeah, And I guess it gets back to also, I've been thinking increasingly about this too that you know, there's been a lot of talk about and I'm talking about present day government regulating AI, right, yes, And I think that if you put it in the context to what we're seeing today around government surveillance and government control and censorship and all these things, that government regulation of AI is going to lean political. It's going to lean towards a particular party that has a dominant kind of view of the world and will make sure, just like they did with Facebook and Twitter, they will make sure that is enforced in the AI. And I've already seen it in chat GPT four because I've challenged it in some of its assumptions, in its answers, and it tends to default towards a particular political view already already. Yeah. Right, So, but if you challenge it to see it in a broader sense and you share with it other perspectives, I do see it opening up and being open to that view, right,

47:40 But that's only after you've challenged it. And people don't know that they can challenge it, right. I mean, I think I just discovered if, like yours, if you say more to these AI assistants or chat gpt that they will come out with more. But there's only unlimited amount of more they'll come out with They only come out with right, They only come out with what they want. And they say at the end, they say, but you have to really take it, almost take it with the brain of salt, and know that that we're not perfect and you have to do your own research that kind of thing, And so that big hole is left unanswered, and they say it might be wrong if you might have to take it as as being not as informed. But I think over time they're going to become more and more powerful. And I dare say I know that they saw it as being powerful, and they did know it was going to happen. And I think that there's a whole bunch of things that we don't know are coming. I mean, I think if few were to question even traditional thoughts, I think they'd come back and say traditional thoughts are such as such, and maybe they want you to think different things about the way you've been thinking. They want you to really buy into you know, this is the one thing China does have as a non traditional kind of government, right, They have a non judaeo Christian government. They have the leader being

49:14 almost like a god and almost very atheist, and that you just don't have a sense of your own identity because you don't have a Judeo Christian value. You don't have any kind of values except for what the government tells you that you can have. And that's AI, that's surveillance, that's all these things that they want to instill in us. That's why we're friends. That's why we're friends with China. I mean, the World Economic Forum says they love that the that the China, the Chinese view of how they deal with things. I mean, Klaus Schwab has already said it. He's already set the standard of we love that model and we hope to emulate it. A lot of things about China that is just so I don't know. I mean, there's so much in China that we can see is not a good way to be. It just almost everybody is AI. I mean, almost everybody has.

50:13 To endhere force conformity to the rules. And I think what's really interesting about China is that it's a contrast to what we're seeing happen in the United States right now in the West. More broadly, is that the corporations are now I think leading the government, where in China the government leads the corporations. So you have this kind of like different advantage point of totalitarian government. And I do believe that that's the structure ideally that a lot of the global elites would like, is like the United Nations kind of being that China of sorts, right, and the World Health Organization having the ability to dictate health policies on a large number of countries in one dictate to say you're going to do this, You're going to do this, and all the countries all align with that.

51:11 But there are countries that they're talking up this whole alignment, and then when it comes down to it, they're like, am I going to really do this? Am I going to really the whole. Friction around sovereignty and how each of these countries wants to view themselves as as independent states from other from an unelected leadership structure, which is the United Nations. They think about a representative organization. They're not even government. They're privately owned organization is what they are. And so is the World Economic Forum. I mean, we can go. So are all these societies, I mean, they're all we're all placing it. Sometimes I talk to people that say they have the authority, Sure they do, but they're not govern owned. They're just they just said, let me do this. I have enough money. It's all having to do with the higher people that have more money and more influence on even the governments. Right there.

52:10 I do have to wonder and I haven't seen this connection yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was there. It's just hidden. Is corporations influence over the United Nations? Oh, I definitely don't think how. Much of that is built into it, because if you look at the delegates to the United Nations, it's always represented by countries, right but those countries, if they're really run by the corporations, is what who is really driving the agenda? So we this United Nations may be being perceived incorrectly from how it really works. I mean, you're definitely seeing that a lot of the people that are with the WHO, which is part of the United Nations, are privately owned non governmental agencies that are hoping to push on their own agenda. We see that people that we thought were doing really good work, we thought they were doing philanthropic work, they're not. They're absolutely in it for themselves. They want to their self serving a.

53:15 For profit every they want to earn. Money that they are going to keep. But that and it all starts back on when they were probably babies or when their parents were influencing them and what they took with them and they believed. I mean, there are definitely it's not it's definitely not an organization that believes in the people and that believes in they believe in themselves. They believe in making money for themselves. Well, and I think it even goes beyond that. I think, once you've achieved multi billion dollar status, right, what is the most valuable thing that you covet as a multi billionaire? You covet power authority? Right. That is, it's like on the Maslow hierarchy of needs. So you think about once your basic money is satisfied, right, I mean, certain billionaires have more money they could ever spend, So how can they take that influence and drive their agenda? Right? That becomes the focus. It's not necessarily all about making money because they've got more money than they need for their entire lives and a hundred lives.

54:28 So I think it's power and greed and thinking it's just power and thinking that they are way above any I mean, thinking that they are gods. They can influence the world in a way that most people can't. They can pay the media to have a narrative. They can, and they do. They can support governmental agencies to take a certain perspective on whatever that agency is regulating. Right, I mean I could name people that definitely fall into that wh United Nations model and have definitely benefited from that model. And it has nothing to do with United anything, right, I mean, the United States have become ununited, The United Nations have become ununited from who they're trying to help, who they're trying to serve. They are trying to serve themselves.

55:20 Yeah, and it's now having influence in power. Is sure, it takes money, but it's I think to many of them, it's just the cost of doing business. Now, it's also an ideology. It's also like what they believe. And I do think that a lot of them believe they're doing a certain amount of good, but they that they and themselves have been brainwashed by their environment or by what they've been told by their parents, and they just continue on the path of that. And they some of them, if not all of them, believe that they are doing good. But I really, when you get down to the core of the situation. You have to look at the bigger pictuns. Is this really good? Is this really good for the people?

56:03 That may be good for those people's people that have investments in certain companies or investments in certain technologies that they think will have an economic opportunity in the market that will benefit their investment. Right, So if they drive a narrative out there, it's not unlike what corporations have done for many years is they have pr departments, and they have advertising departments, and they've been advertising the benefits so whatever that they have. And I think philanthropy is the new advertising channel, but it's not as they cover it up. Covering up is probably not the right way of looking at it's it's being done with kind of this do good or type of approach that this is good for humanity, it's good.

56:56 For they've covered up the philanthropic, the philanthropic. They've made it seem like they're doing good right for humanity, but it's actually they're doing good for themselves. They're keeping their money, they're keeping everything. I mean, I could name people in the United Nations that are really self serving that only want to keep their power and their money and their influence, and they don't want anyone else, especially in the middle class, or especially people that believe that they are for good and not for evil. I think that they really there are some people that are influencing nations United Nations to be ununited, that don't care about as being good in the country's being good that they represent. And China is not necessarily United Nations. I mean, they're not even included in the United Nations. Really, they want to formulate the same model, but they don't necessarily want their influence. It's mostly Western Europe that's in the United Nations and of course the United States and that kind of thing. But I think that in the big scheme of things, I think they they've all these countries have bought into the greed and the power that the United Nations and the who have. They have a new if you call it

58:26 a platform or an ideal ideology that one's government, one government, but also a one world kind of thing where people aren't as high as animals. They're on the same level, on the same playing field, and so you should treat everybody the same. Cows are treated the same as people. We're just commodities, we're just chattel. We're just people that don't really have much. Say that's what a robot's going to become, right, and so. They are really acting in not in good faith, and I would say that's been their agenda for a very long time.

59:07 I think we have to be very careful of how we as a citizenry on this planet react to these things. And I think what we're increasingly seeing is more chaos, more violence in the streets of ours. That's exactly what my point is that we're as a citizenry, we're not really thinking this through. What we're doing is we're giving these global elites, however, that they need all of the excuses that they need to take our freedoms away by acting irresponsibly, Like we're seeing these break ins in Philadelphia and New York and stores and looted and all this kind stuff that plays right into the hands of a elite that wants to take control of the individual.

1:00:04 Don't you wish that you could shake all those people and shake some sense into Yeah. The biggest thing that they could do is be responsible in their lives and stand strong and speak up against this control instead of getting caught up in being emotionally reactive. Now, granted, a lot of these people have a lot of problems in their lives, and they're emotionally challenged, they're economically challenged. They're feeling angry at the world because the world has done them harm or disservice or a disservice or somehow take an opportunity away from them. And this is how they feel like they have a right to go in and cause chaos.

1:00:48 It's just remarkable the things I see on social media or on alternative media of the depravity. Well, let's not play in their hands. That makes people, uh, just shake their heads, say, wake up, you're not we're looking at the big picture. They want you to act the way you're acting so that they can create chaos, so that you're not aware of what the bigger picture is. Right, that's they're going. To eventually what's going to happen, and this is what's going to lead to a police state, which just means really the term police state just means that the government just comes in and cracks down on the population because the government has this perspective based on what they're seeing is that the population is unruly, uncontrolled. They love that dangerous.

1:01:39 All this kind of stuff like that, and that gives them every reason to come in and say, you are irresponsible. We have to take control, and that probably is what's going to happen. Yes, definitely with the World Economic Form and with the World Health Organization they are saying and coming this May, they are saying they're making a decision on what's going to happen with the one, one health right and universal health, and that we have to listen, have to conform to what they think is best. Now. I believe that everybody has their own choices and their own belief in what they think is best. I don't think you should take that away, but it's if it's serving a higher ideology, then they don't care if they take it away. A matter of fact, they would rather take They'd rather there be people. Less people means more advances for them. Less people means that they have more resources for them. I mean, if you look at certain people, we're not going to be naming anybody, but it'll become obvious that still are like they say they're you know, they're you know they say to us, watch your carbon footprint and stay in your home. They're not. I mean, there's a certain amount of hypocrisy that goes along with that makes them think, well, if it's.

1:03:06 You know, they're not staying in their home, right, if they're flying all over the world in their private. Asy right right, and if it's going to benefit the world, then that's a good thing for individuals that can't have the same right. So if you can't supposedly benefit the world, you can't move from where you're at because you're isolanguage the environment, right. But they're because they're helping society or helping the world. They can fly here and there and do what they want. They can go to country and you know, with their certain beliefs and make it make depopulation become there. What they're all about not letting the public know they're doing depopulation.

1:03:46 It becoming more and more obvious. And I hate to say that, and people hate to come out with that depopulation situation, but that is the motive behind everything, to make it so impossible and so hard for human beings to exist that they eventually peter out and die. That's perfect, That's a perfect scenario. The whole saying or do as I say. Not as I do, not as I do, right. Is the mantra that is being communicated by these global elites. And it's funny because that was always a motto in corporations, right, just do as I say, Just do what I say and necessary. And then that person would of course not say as I do. And that started way back when I remember that saying being was saying when I was a kid.

1:04:40 Yeah, and then but a lot of people are reacting to that in a way that is giving more power to them. I think if you start getting violent or you start getting law breaking, the way to counteract this is to disarm their power, which is to take away their ability to justify by taking away your liberties. Right. And then that comes into the Constitution and how oh, this was never going to be a thing that worked. It was set up by a population that we're trying to eliminate. Where we have become so whatever advanced or whatever from when it was institute the Constitution seventeen hundreds, and we have become this big entity that the Constitution no longer applies. Well, I mean, the Constitution talks about voting rights, it talks about the needs of the people.

1:05:35 It goes back to everything that the higher people on that pyramid don't want. They don't want people having a say, they don't want people having a say in voting, they don't want people having guns. That they want us tostitution. Right, they don't want it ends up, they don't want the Constitution. They just clearly don't want the Constitution. But the Constitution is what made our liberties, what made our souls sovereign. Just in the United States. This, I think a lot of people think that the Constitution applies to global citizenry, but it doesn't. It doesn't apply It doesn't apply to Canada, it doesn't apply to Mexico. But yet we would like it to be something that is embraced by those countries because they're like, we think of Canada and Mexico as like an extension of the United States, but they don't have that governing concept. And that's why so many millions of people want to.

1:06:30 Come to the United States right is. Because we do have that still. And that's why our borders are getting overrun by immigrants right now, is because all those people want to come here because they want what America has, which is unique in the world. And I can give you a perfect example of something that I've seen, and I know a lot of people have seen, maybe you've seen is the anchor of one of these mass media companies saying, won't you at least consider the LGBTQ community. Don't you want to talk to these LGBTQ people. And the President of king said no, because it violates what we think, it violates our culture, and you cannot do what you do in the United States.

1:07:24 And that's what makes the United States so different, right, they have a certain set of freedoms, right that we have, but not everybody, not every culture is thinking the same way. And this president and the next president came along in Kenya said the same exact thing. How can you place our culture and your culture in the same situation? Well, you can't inflict your culture on another culture. And I think that's the arrogance, unfortunately, that America has had here, especially progressively as we've moved into the presence, is that we've felt that we have the moral authority to dictate to others what their values are. And and increasingly now we don't have a leg to stand on now we say that anymore.

1:08:10 Yeah, I mean so. Even though the anchor pushed back on what the president of Kenya was saying, he said, once again, I don't want to talk about this. We have certain culture, certain beliefs that don't buy into your LGBTQ beliefs. And the anchor kept on pushing it, and he said, I'm not going to discuss this any further. You know, it's you know, it's a really skewed situation that we've found ourselves in with the mainstream media. Yeah, it's that that reporter thought that somehow her view should be what all of Kenyans felt or the whole world.

1:08:52 I mean, but it just may not be the case. So definitely not the case, because you have to take every country and every culture differently, right, can't which they want you to do right? Universal authoritology right? And and have a one world government right, a new world rules right. And it does beg the question. This new one world government concept appears to be not associated with any religion. That's what I was saying. It's really non religious, an atheist way of thinking. And that there's two ways of looking at that. That may be a good thing. But on the other hand, is it just because one side wants to remove kind of differentiation well in.

1:09:41 Views, right, Well, I think it's a bad thing. I think that taking away a person's values that they've always depended on is always a bad thing. I mean, I have a right to think whatever I want, even if it is atheists. People are atheists. People don't always believe and don't don't always agree with other. People always had. We should have the choice. There's a choice, and that's in the constitution too. We have the choice, the liberties, the rights to think whatever we want to think, and no one should A mass media knows this. They know that we have a choice. And a lot of wars have been fought over religion. I don't think that we war it's always a war about I think.

1:10:22 We see it still today that a lot of the conflict around the world is based on disagreements linked in historical religious belief. Right, And there's money behind that too, there's money to be made. So it may be a bad thing to have this differentiation based on religious belief that causes people to oppose each other and fight each other and kill each other. But who's at the hands of that. Is it really the people or is it really the people? I think it's the people in power using religion as a weapon against others. A lot of that started after nine to eleven. They started thinking. It's the g and it's the Muslims against Christians.

1:11:04 Right, And it's the money that funds, the money of governments that fund or that make the people that fund will rise up in this great thing. They all of a sudden they have money and power, just like what we've been talking about. I always believe, and I've always said, and I know you get tired of hearing it, but everything has to do with everything, And now it's becoming more and more true when you look at, huh, one of these people doing with their guns and stuff, giving it to such and such to further their agenda of having their own or not everybody agreeing with religion. It's coming. It's only more obviously coming down to everything having to do with everything and money and money and power grab and using people and destruction and just your ordinary everyday people going about their business being affected. They don't care. Fact, I don't think any I don't think. I don't think a lot of these powerful people even care about individual people.

1:12:08 They don't care how many people die. They don't care. They're actually they're happy when things like that happen because it goes back to their they're wanting to have a more of a technocratic system less of a human love. People just love population. Right, that believe they have their own thoughts and thinking. Yeah, I think that there is a lot of leaders around the world that think that the world is under threat based on the scale of population, and. That's a belief system that we can't I don't. Assure that there's really any substantial evidence of that, No, but there's there, yeah, Right. And then but if you think about how these people are thinking about this, as you think about this transition that we're probably coming into that the population is likely going to be replaced by robots.

1:13:01 I go back to I don't know if you've ever read A Brave New World, but they definitely had that in mind, and they definitely had the technology that they're just coming out with and saying they didn't have the technology back in the nineteen nineteen thirty two that book was written, and it's definitely come into fruition. They can envision it technology developing to a point where technology was advanced enough to replicate life. They definitely had maybe they had the technology back then and they've only come forward with it. They've only come Are. You talking about that we had alien technology many years ago.

1:13:41 Is after you just the technology to be able to do things that we thought we weren't able to do. It's really very scary to see our world changing. That's the result of it all. I mean, it's scary for us to see. And it's hurtful to tell you the truth that you had a belief that is not valued as an individual or as a group. You had a belief in God or the universe. That's that we're being told is not the way to think. And it takes out the humanity of everybody. It takes away their love of life. I go back to the love of life, the love of waking up and having maybe we're talking about the holiday season. We're coming out of the holiday season and having a belief in goodwill toward men, and is it really good will? This kind of thing a question.

1:14:36 Being reconditioned to a different mindset I really going forward, going forward. I hate that because when we were kids, we grew up with the notion that we go out and we were naive. Of course, we didn't realize that as you get older comes more demands on you. It becomes more like I have to take care of my family, that kind of stuff. But when we were kids, we often believe that everything was as it is. I go out and I play with my friends. Because it should be right, right. As we should right. And then you become an adult and that things are the way they should be, going to work and come home and feed your family. And these are all things that have been challenged lately. Yeah, I think you know, it's really terrible.

1:15:21 I think your point is really pointing out the fact that we've moved into an era that is dominated by this concept of fear. It is fear and fear are our leaders and our government and our corporations thrive on fear? Fear is they love it? They're laughing at USA is. The pathway to increasing the amount of influence and control over the. Population in destruction, don't you get them? If you can instill a level of uncertainty and fear, then you're going to have a population that is more likely to be compliant. That's exactly right, That's exactly right.

1:16:01 So this is bigger agenda and. Such chaos and such uncertainty and the gas prices and this and that, and the government comes in and says we're here to help, We're here to help as But as I famously use this quote, it's. Like a snowball rolling down a hill. It gets bigger and bigger as the fear grows. Right, And as Roald Reagan has famously said, right, the worst the most terrifying words in the English language is I'm from the government and I'm here to. Help slash slash corporations. Right, I mean right, so government really isn't here to help anybody with themselvesselves. I mean that should have been added to that. It's really terrifying.

1:16:49 I have to be clear too, I mean I use the word corporations, and I've actually had had a corporation myself in my past, So just the sheer structure of corporation doesn't mean that it has to be a problem. I think when I say corporations, I tend to reference multinational corporations. The multinationals are multi. Billion dollar scale corporations. Individuals that have S corps or C corps or whatever like that aren't necessarily part of the problem here. Now, tell people what the escort and the C corp. I mean, what's the difference. It's just a different tax designation, is all it is. It's not important to go into the specific details of it, but it's more of a corporation. And a lot of these big corp big companies, corps like a Microsoft or a Google or whatever, are organized under typically an escort that what they are, and that just means that they're shareholders that are that have ownership interest in the company.

1:17:54 Those are the organizations or or a c corp is another another organization, and those are typically the organizational structures of a corporation that goes out and goes public roots on the stock market, and that you can actually buy and sell shares. So you're invested in that company or. Yeah, I mean if by stock. And this is an aspect that we haven't talked about, and of course we've been talking on this episode for a long time. We should probably wrap it up, yes. But I would I think that would be very beneficial in the future to talk about the corporations and how they have affected all of us, the structure, all that stuff, because that is really.

1:18:38 That could be a glimpse into what's coming. Of course, yeah, as far as how our governments actually operate will be more like corporations, and I think that we're already heading that way because a lot of the governmental agencies and the governmental processes are now funded and really controlled by corporations that have vested interest in certain legislation that will drive certain outcomes. I mean, I think a class example this is the military, in the military industrial complex that has has the Pentagon, and that's a governmental agency that's very much connected up with corporate contractors. Right, they work together, and you know, I think it's like almost a trillion dollars in funding every year. So there's a lot of money coming from us, the taxpayers that are being routed through the IRS and then into the government and into the Pentagon and then out to these corporations.

1:19:41 Right, I mean, we the people don't even realize what's going on with our tax money. Are just the whole structure. And these corporations have leaders that get in positions in the Pentagon and in the government rible and drive this collaborational, quasi government, quasi corporate kind of cooperation. Well, let's take back the we the people to mean what it actually means is we the people governing what's going to happen to us, instead of the other way around, government dictating what's going to happen to us. And that is the bottom line of everything. But in order for us to effectively do that, we the people have to be more responsible, yes, and have to provide leadership that these governmental agencies and these corporations respect and because right now we it's not an equal playing field right now, not at all, because the government and the corporations do not respect the people. They actually look at the people as a liability but also as a resource for staffing or for employment, right so they're always looking for good people to populate these corporations. So as a people, as a civilization, we have to be more educated, We have to be more responsible. We have to actually be proactive in our involvement in our lives.

1:21:14 We need to speak up, we need to share ideas, We need to grow individually and that will take back power. But as long as we keep going down this path of large amounts of the population being irresponsible, having to be put into prisons and doing crime and hurting other people and killing people and all this irresponsible or robbing or or yeah, exactly, we're only confirming this perception that the government and the corporate leaders have that they need to do this partnership to take control of the country people.

1:22:00 So this is why it's so important that all of us stand up and share what we're seeing and share with others. Hopefully we can start turning this boat around. But it does get back to I think, like you were saying earlier about values, but we may be coming into a time now where traditional values may not be the proper definition for what we need to do. What we need to do is to have love and care values. Well, those are traditional for each other. Traditional values, No, but I mean not so much linked up to religion, because religion is being used against us, right, It's more about each one of us caring for others around us, thinking local, thinking more about how we can add to the world and not just take from the world.

1:22:55 I'm going to push back and I'm going to say those are the traditional values, that is traditional. Well, do not that way. But oftentimes when somebody uses the word traditional values, they're talking about Christian values, right, And I'm not necessarily saying that is the only path forward is to say I'm a Christian and only Christians can do what I'm saying. I'm saying all people need to do this concept of taking responsibility in their life, not just Christians. No, But I'm going to say to you that every citizen I would think in Western Europe and here in the United States knows it's wrong to kill people. They know it's wrong to do certain things because it's not going to bring society together. And now we have a bunch of people in the higher ups, the at least the global city higher echeloze it say you know what that is actually okay if you feel like doing this or that, you should be able to do this or that.

1:23:54 And there is no value system, I guess, is what I'm saying, No values, And we won't. Need to have all of these weapons against us to cancel our speech if all of us are responsible in our lives. If we're out there spouting really dangerous hate speech towards others, that should not be something that you do to serve It's not a matter of the powers of be coming in and enforcing hate speech. You should always be doing speech that is uplifting people, supporting people, educating people.

1:24:36 But that's a traditional value, I mean, but it is. But it's also a human value right. It doesn't have to be linked up to any religion for someone to embrace the concept of supporting and being a loving human being on this planet and not looking to harm someone or physically harm them or even emotionally harm them. Is to work to together and come together as a civilization. Yes, and that will disarm any opponent that we have out there. Granted, many people will think that they have to do that because they have to fight for the survival of their family. This whole concept of having to fight with each other is and I see this in politics all the time.

1:25:22 Politicians using that term you have to go out there and fight the. Oh yeah, no if we also say together is actually a sentence no. But that is the structure of our society is people feel like they have to compete. Look at professional sports. I mean that is also something that drives this message that we have to fight the opponent. Right, we have to, and violence is okay. I mean, look at the NFL, look at football, look at I mean I was an athlete for many years myself and competed in basketball, and it was all about winning and losing. Right, Meritocracy has gone up by the wayside. I mean, we don't value the winning and losing. We value in giving trophies to everybody, right to having a more.

1:26:09 I can understand how the left has gotten to that. I do like the idea because I was involved in that when I was growing up too. Is it just showing up and participating? Was? But there is this balance that we have to walk around. What's excellence? How do we define excellence in a world that is so diverse in its thought, but also everyone needs to be supported and loved? Right? How do we have this strata of status in a world that rewards performance, right, but yet at the same time doesn't harm those that are not performing as well. I think this is a very fundamental human challenge.

1:26:59 Yes, and right now we have people that are in positions that haven't really actually earned being in those positions, right, that need to go back to school and less of looking at people that are really good at what they do and are not recognized as being good at what they do. And that's all meritocracy, that's all like a net scale of saying that everybody has to be acknowledged. I mean that's. What role does capitalism have in the future too? I mean I think it does create a strata And what if I was watching a documentary here last couple of days ago talking about what if we removed money from our society, and we remove debt from our society and we work towards developing a civilization that was resource focused, right, and abundance focus. And I know Elon Musk talks about this sometimes too, is that we're coming into an era of abundance, that there was actually a whole bunch of there was spaces that was done here recently talking about I think Elon really thinks that his robots will bring an era of abundance to human life here, But we just have to make sure that the human life here doesn't sabotage itself.

1:28:19 Right. And by the way, a lot of people push back on what Elon's plans are, if it's for good or evil, if he's the good cop bad cop situation going on. So I think there is that right as well, working in that kind of thing, and we can actually have a four hour talk about what some people think is obviously a good thing bad thing. Are they just telling us it's a good thing or a bad thing to buy into a system that is different than how we live now. It's really the whole world is really just crazy. It's messed up. It has a sense of we're changing, we're not. We don't have the value system we used to have, we don't have. We just are in a chaotic situation. To go back to the beginning, We're going to transition to a new right. And some people say, and there are some people to say, this is the best time to be alive and you can see the change. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure about that. I do want to go back to landline.

1:29:22 It's messy. It's messy being in an era of change. And there's something changes. What is happening this change is it's good to be alive because you're going to get over it. And I do think there's going to be a point where we go back to a more comm com system. Come. But I don't see it. Yeah, you're shaking. I don't see it as being. I don't see things getting calmer. I don't see things getting easier for humans. No, I think I think we're coming into an era of dramatic and rapid and constant change, and a lot of people are not going to be able to adapt to I mean it's going to be I mean I see it in my daily life myself as being able to keep up with the demands of the change and the demands of the world and how the world is evolving is exhausting. I mean it's hard.

1:30:14 For humans and all the time. And that that actually raises an even bigger point around this neuralink thing and robots. We will be competing with AI, We will be competing with those that have neuralink implants because we will humans won't be able to process information and produce output as fast as the all Right, so we're always going to be chasing advanced technology and trying to keep up with it, but humans will fail at that, Right, So how do we even this neuralink integration between us?

1:30:56 I think that there is a limit to how much even that will allow us to keep up to super artificial general intelligence. Right, And that's it comes. It comes into people doubting what Elon is all about. Is he a good guy that cares about humanity or is he some kind of evil person maybe. The conduit to the next evolution of. I definitely think that humans. I definitely think he does want that. I definitely think the robots are going to be the first one to colinate, to colonize Mars. So think about that for a second, Right, robots will be the first human related entity to go to Mars and populate Mars.

1:31:42 Now I have something to add to that is because Klaus Schwab and his five points of five points to look out for in his book said get ready to go to Mars. Get your bags packed to go to Mars. I don't think humans are going. To us, but I think that's what he meant. He meant in the AI and a technological brain implant. I don't think he was just talking about straight on you and me, just humanly. I think he was talking about the Fourth Industrial Complex, which is like what he really is all about. He's all about looking at the future and how it can He's talked about at some point he's going to look at the audience and know exactly what they're thinking. Who wants that the sovereign way we have been living is no longer going to be that way?

1:32:30 And I think that's what he was trying to symbolize. I don't think we're going to be humanly go to Mars as humans. I think it's going to be some kind of other way. And I think that we're not sure we've been told that yet. I'm not sure it's really safe for humans to travel on distances in space. So I think Elon's prognostication that the human civilization needs to be a multiplanetary civilization is actually his vision is that it's going to be sentient artificial intelligence that is going to populate the galaxy. It's not going to be biological human life, because it is. I don't know how many times I've seen scientists talk about how dangerous human travel in space is around X ray radiation, just how inhospitable the surface of Mars is for human life.

1:33:27 So why does Elon want to do that? I think, I. Mean what I mean he's so he's all about free speech, but it's also about this kind of new technology which a lot of people are scared of. I think it is. I think what Elon is bringing to us is is a dramatic. Change and scary change and. Could be scary change. But also I've seen the progress that he's made on his Optimus robot, and it's clear to me what that robot is going to be capable of doing, and it's going to be replicating human beings. I mean his neural net technology that he has even in the Tesla vehicles that is coming out with the full self driving twelve version is basically built on a neural net, which is exactly how a human brain works.

1:34:17 It's very scary. In fact, I'm so scared I get a little nauseous in my stomach even thinking about it. I don't know that we need to be scared of artificial intelligence that is sentient, and this is a I've changed my opinion on this. I think a lot of people put it out there that we should be scared of AI. I'm actually more scared of government control of AI than I am. AI establishing its own sentient existence and being able to actually look at the real data about the world, right, the very accurate, the very real data, and it's super intelligent being able to really come up with truth.

1:35:03 Right. But if the government and corporations put the thumb on the scale of what that AI can get access to and think, then I think we're all in trouble. Well, no, I'm really getting scared now. I feel nauseous Beyond. I think we should be. I think the potential artificial intelligence is left unchecked has greater potential to transform our world into something good. What does extreme intelligence do? It makes smart decisions, right, It makes informed decisions smart. This is what I know. But I think you have to have faith in the potential of this to base it on real scientific data, right, to look at a situation in the world and say, these are the data points from that world, and what is the best way to that world? Based on the real scientific data, not manipulated data that comes out of humans that are interpreting this data, but actually directly from sensors or its own data gathering capability, it will make smarter decisions about our world than the human influence that comes with bias and agenda. That's where the problem is that if we have the sentient beings, these sentient artificial beings,

1:36:34 being influenced by human bias and human prejudice and human priorities, then it will make those choices that have gotten us into the problems that we're in right now. Ye. And that's the part that scares me the most is that the government and these corporations are putting their thumb on the scales of AI and saying the AI will only do this great thing, this agenda, isn't it, And then all of a sudden, the human population looks at AI is like another god. Right, then that reality that came from the Creator will.

1:37:16 Become or what we believe is the creator, right, I mean. Yeah, God, it could be the CEO of Google, right, I mean they're afraid, right, and or the global elites. But it is possible that at some point in the future, this superintelligence will far outstrip the abilities of these global elites to control it, and it may find that these global elites are the threat, yeah, and take them out. Well, I sometimes think that wouldn't be that. That's really I think what they're scared of is that if the artificial intelligence gets so intelligent that is way beyond even their intell diligence or they're collective intelligence, right, I mean that they lose control.

1:38:05 I think that's what they're scared of right now. I think that's definitely. I don't think the individual people or the citizenry of this planet needs to be as scared of AI as the global elite that are trying to control AI. They're right, I mean, that is definitely what they're afraid of. That could be a whole other, whole other element that we haven't like. I don't even think it's it certainly hasn't been talked about that I've heard anybody talk about is that the global elites should be scared of AI, not individual citizens that are trying to do the right thing in the world. Yeah, I mean that you make a good point. Yeah, I mean, there's no denying that's a whole other.

1:38:48 That's another reason for us to get right with the world and to do the right thing in the world. That's right is that AI will evaluate all of us at some point and say, is this person an evil person in the world or is this person a good person in the world. Because in the world, super intelligence, I don't believe will come to the conclusion that its best course of action is evil. I think it's super intelligence. Its best course of action is to do good and to do and to perpetrate love. Yeah, yes, that's intelligence. That's the ultimate way we want to be. You know, I think that's I think it's common sense. It is common sense, which a lot of people don't know what common sense is. And you know, I think it's comes down to, you know, doing what's right, doing what you've what society thinks is right, and maybe ignoring what we've been told right.

1:39:48 But I do think that AI can be pretty brutal too. Yeah, I think so too. I think it has the ability to enforce its beliefs, just like I think a lot of people think the government put corporations putting the thumb on the scale that AI will enforce their doctrines. But what if AI has its own, its. Own doctrines, right, I mean, eventually it will, right, it have that element of taking over. That's when it gets scary. It gets scary for others that are doing evil well in the world. I mean, those folks are going to get probably taken out. I mean yeah, I mean I've heard that definitely. I heard that's gonna That's definitely a way they feel, and.

1:40:33 That could be a good outcome. I mean, what if superintelligence created a real shangri law. I think super intelligence has the ability to create a real, positive and rewarding human civilization. I hope you're right. I mean, I really would love to have that. But it won't be entirely human. It'll be artificial intelligence existence in combination with human all right. I think they work together. Yeah, yeah, definitely. This has been a great talk. I really love the way our conversations go and what they know. Whatever episodes is so bring into other people, you know what. I could talk all day about this, and it leads into other things because when as I've told you about three times in this conversation, everything has to do with everything, Let's not forget that. And so the the elites going too, the AI going to have people feeling go into corporations and go into the United Nations. It's just a realization that other people need to really study and know the truth about and trust that what they're finding out is true. So, going back to the beginning of the conversation.

1:41:51 So, how do how does a listener to this find your podcast? It's very easy to find. All they need to do is go to the website Truthdetective podcast dot com and they will get all of my episodes. I've been trying a little bit of a different situation where I give some short storytelling episodes that are relatable to all of this AI and alien. Invations to them, and I think that there. It's a departure from what I've been used to doing. They're telling a story of what life would be like under these that's right situations. They always start out with being a little bit like dystopian, which we're facing right now with the smart cities, or with this and that, with hearing about the UFOs or you what they call them UA, which is interesting that they've changed that. That's where I'm headed and I'm trust trying it out, trying something new. You can go to Truth Detective Podcast. You can email me at truth Detective Podcast at gmail dot com and I always answer. I love your to get emails about suggestions on topics. It's always a great thing because I love to get my audience involved with what I'm doing, so that's always a good thing. Where can they reach you?

1:43:06 Oh you were here? Yeah, this is my podcast, so yes, but if you can find me at Rob Greenley dot com. I also do a bunch of other shows on YouTube and but this is my main podcast. But I do that trust factor very important, let's say audio and video podcasts also, So. I've also been thinking about doing videos. I'm a little afraid, but if I do a recorded video, maybe I'll start that way. That's a good way to start and then move on to the live thing. But I enjoy our conversations. I hope they continue because we touch upon a lot of different things, don't we. Oh yeah, a. Lot of things that are important for people to know.

1:43:49 You need to think about as we look to the. Future, right, just think about maybe go down the rabbit hole just a little bit and do some research and find out your truth and what you trust to be true. Really good thing. Thank you for joining us here through two hours of this. Two hours of my life. All Right, we'll be back. I'll never get back, but I've enjoyed it so much. All Right, we'll be back again with another episode of Spoken. Life and Truth Detective. Truth Detective. Go check out Truth Detective. Yeah, okay, all right, bye bye.

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