Gordon Phillips Author of The Risky Reader - Escaping the Fiat Prison and Leaning in to True Liberty S2-EP22

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Because he's got the truth right there.

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He had it absolutely nailed.

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He totally got it completely.

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But he was hundreds of years ahead of his time.

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Well, yeah.

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But you can go back before that, about a century, and you look at Friedrich Bastiat.

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Friedrich Bastiat, yes, if you have the law.

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I homeschooled all three of my kids.

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They listened to that before we called them podcasts.

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all right everybody welcome back to another episode of the space tomatoes podcast

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i'm one of your hosts havoc the other guy lx hello welcome back all those things

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Today we have with us a special guest, Gordon Phillips, a veteran currency trader, financial analyst, author of The Risky Reader, educator, public speaker, futurist, and consultant.

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Welcome to the show, Gordon. Mr. Phillips.

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Thank you, gentlemen. It is my pleasure to be here.

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awesome so it seems to me in looking through your stuff you also play music

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sure i did yeah i was a professional band leader till i was 40 years old in boston

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oh really like big band or no i started out on bass r&b was my love

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soul, R&B, jazz.

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And then when I couldn't,

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it was difficult to be a band leader as a bass player

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because you're at the mercy of the keyboard player and drummers

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and they have all the expensive equipment.

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So I taught myself keys.

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And then I was the first musician in Boston to use MIDI,

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which is digital musical interface.

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So I could sound like the Moody Blues with a two-piece setup,

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myself and a singer.

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And then I got bored with that

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and finally started an entertainment agency and had lots of weddings and bar mitzvahs, corporate events.

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I did that for a long time.

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And then one day I woke up and I wasn't having fun anymore making music for money.

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And that's when I learned how to invest.

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And that just, actually what happened was, we can get into this.

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A friend called me one day, a guy I knew from a business meetup.

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Three o'clock in the afternoon, he said, he was agitated.

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He said, did you know the Federal Reserve is not federal?

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I said, what?

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I got to go to the bank.

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What?

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He says, your fax machine on?

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I said, yeah.

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Because that was state of the art in those days, right?

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Fax machine.

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Oh, yeah.

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I came home.

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The roll had run out.

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All these Supreme Court decisions on the one.

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What?

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I said, up till two in the morning reading it, my brain exploded.

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And two years later, I was crisscrossing the United States at freedom rallies doing lectures

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on constitutional taxation from being a bass player.

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And then from there, I started getting into trading and investing

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and changed gears again.

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Then started a family.

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Had my first child at 53.

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Wow.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Congratulations.

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Well, thank you.

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And the youngest right now is 20.

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And I'll be 80 in November.

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Really?

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I still have time.

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I better let my wife know.

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Yeah, you will hurry up.

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Well, that's another area of expertise for you, right? Is de-risking health, right?

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Well, I'm very active in and very eager learner, researcher into longevity, health extension, life extension, lots of really crazy stuff we can talk about.

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Wonderful.

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If you want.

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Yeah.

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Wonderful.

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So what made you decide to get into investing in the first place?

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Well, I was very active in the constitutional revival movement in the early 1990s.

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And everybody around me was going down like flies because that was not a popular career choice, shall we say.

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So I needed to find something that I had a knack for that I was good at.

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And I'd always loved math.

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I was in pre-med in college.

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And so I read every book I could get my hands on, on trading and investing.

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And I realized it's all math.

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If you really understand how to do it correctly.

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And then the crash of 87 had destroyed the retirement nest eggs of a bunch of family and friends.

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So I stepped in.

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I said, I think I can help you rebuild your portfolio.

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you mathematically. And then within a few years, people were getting in touch with me and asking

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for help. One guy said, will you consult for me? I looked around and said, what? I'm a consultant?

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I had no idea. Wow. Okay. I guess I'm a consultant. So here we go. We're off to the races and a whole

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new career. And that was 30 years ago. And that's what I've done ever since. Yeah. Along the way,

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I learned currency trading because foreign exchange is a lot of fun.

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And I became affiliated with a firm in Vancouver.

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We developed software for the training,

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the currency market.

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Forex is a,

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a,

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it can be a real winner.

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It can also be a real good way to go broke.

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Yeah.

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95%.

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I teach a very particular trading method.

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I'm not active teaching anymore,

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but 95% of probably north of that,

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of people who get into Forex lose money.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, it's a tough one.

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I mean, if you get the market right, though,

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it can be astoundingly beneficial.

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That sounds like worse odds than the casino.

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Well, you have to get yourself right.

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People, they defeat themselves.

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Even if you give someone a rock-solid trading method

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with excellent rules, strict money management,

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they'll still screw it up.

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because they're trading against themselves.

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It's very difficult for most people to completely remove emotion from the trading process.

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And you have to.

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You have to become a Borg to trade.

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Any type of investing or speculation, you've got to divorce yourself from that.

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Make it monopoly money, right?

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It doesn't exist.

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it's something that I threw away and you have to really, really put a lot of effort into doing that

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and training yourself not to freak out. I mean, it's, and it's really difficult to do. I mean,

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I've, I've tried a few times and it's, you know, I mean, I've had some decent wins doing so, but

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it's, it's, it's hard on the psyche. It is. My students, you know, the Quorex is about $6

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trillion a day in volume. I said, think of it as a six trillion gallon tank of water. And you're

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out there bobbing in the dark all alone. Nobody knows you're there. Nobody cares. You can go under.

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Nobody will notice.

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I mean, it's an accelerated commodity type of a market.

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it well that's the point i guess i'm not making my point very well there used to be these ads on tv

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for forex made easy software you pay five thousand dollars and go to a hotel seminar there's more

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flowers on stage in a funeral home and you know tony willis tony whatever his name is up there

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introducing the speaker everybody's all pumped up and then monday morning you fly back to west

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oshkosh you're all alone in your hotel room it's raining out i mean your home office all just you

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Just you and this six trillion gallon tank of currency.

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Good luck because there's nobody there to give you an attaboy, nobody to congratulate you, nobody to console you.

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And that's when the devils all come out.

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I've always said the best form of self-help counseling is to trade.

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You'll learn more about yourself in the first six months than all the sessions you could go to for the next 10 years.

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And once you get that under control, then you have a really good chance of actually being profitable.

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So is Forex trading a big part of your kind of consulting service?

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No, I don't even bring it up anymore unless someone asks me.

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If they know I have a reputation and history for teaching, I'll talk to them and possibly take them under my wing.

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But that's not something that I actively do.

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So my consulting, 99% of it is risk management.

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It's hardcore financial risk management for families to prepare them for what's coming, which is going to be a doozy.

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Oh, yeah.

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What is coming?

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Is it going to be worse than 2008?

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Oh, yeah.

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It's going to be worse than 1920s.

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It's going to make the 1920s look friendly.

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Yeah, you're right.

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Should I start investing in guns and ammo and stuff like that?

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Hard supplies?

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Food?

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Put food in the bunker?

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See, I can't give you financial advice, don't you know, because I'm not licensed.

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But let me just say, it would be very wise to be prepared situationally.

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Yes, situationally.

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Which has to do with where do I live?

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Am I in a high population density area?

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What do I do when all the neighbors find out that I have a basement full of food because I couldn't keep my mouth shut?

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there's so much

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yeah I want to talk about it on a podcast like an idiot

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yeah you

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they don't need to know

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Benjamin Franklin said three can keep a secret

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if two are dead

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that's true

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and the broader that gets

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the worse it is

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yeah

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but to answer your question

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we're coming into the quote

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perfect storm

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of many different cycles

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converging at the same time

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Oh, boy.

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It's going to be one for the history books.

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Any estimate on how much time I have so I can move from where I'm at?

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Well, are you familiar with Martin Armstrong?

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I am not.

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Well, the greatest recommendation I could make to the two of you is go to armstrongeconomics.com and sign up for his free blog.

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Basically, you get a bunch of emails in your inbox every day, but they're the same posts that he puts on his blog.

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Then he has a $15 a month membership.

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He's the world's number one financial consultant that nobody knows about.

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He consults with all the major corporations, all the world's governments.

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He has a computer program that he wrote 40 years ago.

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I know this sounds unbelievable, but it has forecast sometimes to the day and years in advance.

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Unbelievably, I mean, market shaking events like the collapse of Russia, like the crash of 87.

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And there's a movie called The Forecaster, which you can look up.

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I think you'd have to pay for it.

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You go to theforecaster.com or whatever it is.

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You'll never see it on Netflix or Amazon.

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It was banned in the U.S.

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played all over the world. It's basically the story about how the CIA went to him for his source code

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for his program, which he called Socrates. He basically developed the world's first

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artificial intelligence computer, paid millions of dollars to have a whole team of researchers

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feed every bit of data he could find going back 5,000 years on any subject you can think of.

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and the computer generates reports

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by looking at minutiae,

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things that a human could never see them.

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And one of the things that he learned along the way

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is that every world-shaking event,

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like 911, for example,

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the people who perpetrate it

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move their money in advance of the event

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to either get it out of harm's way

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and or to profit from what's coming.

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And the computer sees that.

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Yeah, there's actually someone that I do follow, a gentleman named James Corbett.

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Oh, sure.

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Actually just did a, well, his book titled Reportage actually calls out that exact thing, the 911 bets.

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And it's right there in plain, I mean, it's just sitting right there.

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quite interesting

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premonitions, if you will.

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Well, see, Armstrong, Martin Armstrong,

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was brought in by the SEC after 9-1-1.

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They wanted to use his software

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to help figure out who bought the puts.

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That's the level this guy operates at.

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But the reason I brought it up,

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you asked me what the time frame was.

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He's projecting

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that the bottom

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of this whole mess

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is going to be 2032.

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Yep.

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There's been a number of people

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that are saying 2032 is going to be

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kind of that gate.

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Whether it's the opening of the gate

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or that's the bottom of it,

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I'm not positive.

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You know, hard to say.

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Well, when I do risk consulting,

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I break it down.

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There's political risk, geopolitical risk,

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dollar risk.

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market risk, asset risk, situational risk.

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And then there's also, excuse me, the psychological and emotional

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and, of course, spiritual component.

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And you've got to get all of those lined up.

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And I've been teaching this for years, and there isn't a lot of time left.

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But I've got a bunch of buddies.

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We get together a couple nights a week on Zoom

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and share information with each other.

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And my little happy little tribe is pretty, pretty prepared, including with my kids.

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Yeah.

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The three kids, I have three children.

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We all live together right now.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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One's 20, one's 24, and one's 26.

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And I'll be 80 in November.

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So it's just a little different.

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It's a great way of living.

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To be honest with you, it harkens back to the way we were pre-1940s, right?

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If you look at the way societies and families were run, there were larger families and they lived in the same house or potentially built houses on the property for the children.

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But the family unit kind of stuck together, right?

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And there was a lot more resiliency in that because the families were also, you know, especially through the depression, but even prior to that, right?

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There was a real need to have at least some food production, the ability to maintain things, stitch clothes, you know, cobble for shoes, you know, things of this nature, as well as, you know, equipment, maintenance, you know, woodwork, steel work, etc.

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Oh, sure. If you were 80 years old, you were born at home, you died at home. If you were 80 years old, you shucked peas and corn along with the four-year-olds. You always did something productive until the last days of your life. Everybody worked together as a team.

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And then when your kids would get married, you'd carve off a piece of land just over the hill where you couldn't see each other, a little bit of privacy, and they'd have their property.

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And then in those days, the first year, maybe you'd clean up the big rocks, pull the big rocks out and build the stone walls, get uproot the trees.

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The following year, you might dig a cellar hole in between planting and harvesting.

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Maybe by two or three years later, you'd framed a place that you could live in.

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And then the Rockefellers came along.

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In the early 1900s, the zoning laws were passed such that you had to go from groundbreaking to occupancy within one to two years and drove everybody into the arms of the bankers.

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It's one of the many schemes that got foisted on us.

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So, it's like it's a conspiracy.

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Yeah.

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Where's my hat?

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I might seem to find it somewhere.

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We all have one.

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Yeah.

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I'm in different colors for different occasions.

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I just, I'm prepared.

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It's risk preparation.

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How do you get them to hold the color?

283
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Because I've tried like dry erase markers and paint and it just chips right off the foil.

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Just spray paint.

285
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Yeah.

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Go the sheep route.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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Even talking about the stuff happening before 9-11, the different players in motion, that

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would tend to make people think that it was a conspiracy as well.

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Almost like everything's planned to happen.

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If there were no conspiracy, we would have no history.

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There's a lot of truth to that.

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legislatures. Now, to call it a conspiracy is to diminish what they're doing. They're just making

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plans. They're making plans for the future, for the future that they want for, quote, their planet.

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Yeah, I think it was.

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Now, when you say it, it sounds logical. When I say it, people look at me like I'm crazy.

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Maybe I just don't say it well enough, I guess.

299
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But no one said you're not. I'm just, I'm just.

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That's true.

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Keep our options open.

302
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I think it was Robert Higgs who said, what was it?

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It was, whatever you believe they are doing, it's far worse.

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It is.

305
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I'm sure.

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Yeah.

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And they've already been doing it for longer than you were aware they're doing it.

308
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Oh, yeah.

309
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Well, they project, right?

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I mean, it's all projected out there.

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It's just, for some reason, never covered or talked about.

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but you know

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people are looking

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is that me?

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Is your smoke alarm going off?

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Is that me?

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I don't think so

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It's not me

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My son's here

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Was that us?

321
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Not me

322
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Okay, so his son just came out of his office and shook his head though

323
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Okay

324
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Well, I don't know

325
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It was the NSA. We must have said the magic word. Remember the old Groucho Mark show? You bet your life. We must have just said the magic word. The bird came down with $100. Remember?

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Yep. So the interesting thing is, is I actually had this discussion with someone today. And if you remember back in the day, Eisenhower actually warned about the technocratic elite.

327
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Sure.

328
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Right.

329
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Which is a striking weirdness because he was one of the people that ushered in the military.

330
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That's what I was going to say.

331
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Wasn't he part of it too?

332
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Complex, right?

333
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So it's one of those things, though, you'll hear it said 40 years before you actually see it in practice.

334
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Well, if you follow Catherine Austin Fitz, she made the point, she knows where all the financial bodies are buried in Washington.

335
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She made the point that starting in the early 1990s is when the ultra elite made the decision to form what she calls the breakaway civilization and to start stealing the money funneling it out the back door into their black private projects

336
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And 9-1-1, which was simultaneously a gold heist, a bond fraud, and an insurance scam, was critical to moving that forward.

337
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We had the banking regulations and the Patriot Act.

338
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And this is all very complex.

339
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These are many, these conspiracies, we'll call them, have many, many, many moving parts.

340
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And they're planned years in advance, painstakingly planned years in advance and executed.

341
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But they make a lot of mistakes.

342
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Oh, yeah.

343
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They made a lot of mistakes on 9-1-1.

344
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Technology helps us look back now and spot some of those mistakes.

345
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but it's pretty easy to figure out the who won who who what where when and how and why

346
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all the things you would ask in a criminal investigation that's been solved 9-1-1's been

347
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solved right down to who did it and uh with that and a dollar get you a cup of coffee well actually

348
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more like five dollars these days right because it's great to be informed so we can go to parties

349
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and outsmart each other like the guy who's i know more about the 9-1-1 than you do you know like

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Like it's somehow stock and trade to be the most informed person in the block.

351
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But the question is, what are they going to do next?

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And how do we prepare ourselves to not just survive, but thrive through what they're going to do next?

353
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That's my mission when I work with clients.

354
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I'd say agorism.

355
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An agorist life, right, is really what it comes down to.

356
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is you know you can't you cannot win against the system you you cannot beat them they they have

357
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ungodly amount of resources to make sure that that is not a possibility right and they call it a level

358
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playing field it's not it never will it was and it never will be however what you can do is exit

359
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there's nothing stopping you or preventing you from exiting. It's just, you have to be

360
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logical about how you exit, which is one of the reasons I live on a farm, raise livestock,

361
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grow food, have perennials and fruit trees and berry plants and all that good stuff because of

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the fact that one of the key things for survival is going to be your food, right? I would list that

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as priority number one, defense being priority number two, right?

364
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Yep.

365
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Yeah, so.

366
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No, I agree.

367
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I've been arguing, helping my friends.

368
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The time to do what you just said is absolutely now.

369
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You have to do it in any way that you can,

370
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even if it means joining an intentional community.

371
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Yeah, I would say it was already out there.

372
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It was probably six years ago.

373
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Let me be frank.

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For anyone watching this, right,

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If you think you are going to wait until a situation occurs and then just go put some seeds in the ground and find some chickens and life is going to be happy-go-lucky and you're going to be okay, you are wrong and you will suffer the consequences.

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It takes years, if not longer, to effectively learn how to manage, preserve, and produce foodstuffs for yourself.

377
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So if you weren't doing it right this moment, you are way behind, in my opinion.

378
00:24:36,518 --> 00:24:40,058
What if I just know somebody that has all those things and has a spare bedroom?

379
00:24:40,838 --> 00:24:42,858
I've already told you, all you got to do is get here.

380
00:24:43,378 --> 00:24:45,618
That becomes the problem, though.

381
00:24:45,878 --> 00:24:49,978
That's a long trip from where you are to where I am.

382
00:24:53,018 --> 00:24:55,218
Well, if worse comes to worse, you buy.

383
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I sold it a couple years ago, but I had a 1993 30-foot diesel, Class C diesel RV.

384
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Got solar panels on the top, batteries.

385
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You can boondock.

386
00:25:09,218 --> 00:25:09,818
You can go anywhere.

387
00:25:09,938 --> 00:25:10,798
You can follow the sun.

388
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You can go pick blueberries, pick strawberries, work as a farmhand.

389
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If there's a storm coming, drive away.

390
00:25:18,858 --> 00:25:25,718
And that might be a last resort plan C for people who don't have the means to buy enough property to grow their own food on.

391
00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:34,698
And maybe plan B would be to join a cooperative or an intentional community where like-minded people have already gotten started.

392
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And all you have to do is buy into their, like a share of what they've created, you know.

393
00:25:41,098 --> 00:25:42,718
But I agree with you, have it completely.

394
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It's a food, clothing, and shelter have as long as hierarchy of needs.

395
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You got to eat.

396
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Yep.

397
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And then you got to not be homeless.

398
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Yeah.

399
00:25:52,578 --> 00:25:55,618
And then you've got to be able to defend yourself against people who want to take what you own.

400
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And they will.

401
00:25:57,658 --> 00:25:58,938
And that's another thing.

402
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Being further away from populated areas is going to be essential.

403
00:26:03,538 --> 00:26:03,978
Yes.

404
00:26:03,978 --> 00:26:12,298
Because I don't care how badass you think you are or how much of a whatever you've got set up, defensive BS.

405
00:26:12,718 --> 00:26:22,738
Look, if you're in a suburban or more populated area, you will be overrun by thousands of people.

406
00:26:23,258 --> 00:26:26,898
It's not going to be like 10 people or four people.

407
00:26:27,078 --> 00:26:31,358
It's going to be a throng and you have no hope.

408
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There is none, right?

409
00:26:32,878 --> 00:26:34,918
So, wow.

410
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Here's the positive thing, though.

411
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You can make a difference.

412
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You can change things.

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you can change things at least for you and your family and your community.

414
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And the way to do that is to exit and build.

415
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Right.

416
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And,

417
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and literally those intentional communities may be something that you should

418
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look into.

419
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Right.

420
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They,

421
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there are some wonderful people that have started some all over the United

422
00:27:02,678 --> 00:27:04,038
States and Mexico,

423
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in Europe,

424
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there are,

425
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you know,

426
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South America,

427
00:27:08,358 --> 00:27:09,238
Central America.

428
00:27:09,238 --> 00:27:10,638
There are a ton of them.

429
00:27:10,838 --> 00:27:11,398
Right.

430
00:27:11,398 --> 00:27:15,398
And they are looking for people that are like-minded and want to make a change.

431
00:27:15,838 --> 00:27:15,958
Yep.

432
00:27:16,378 --> 00:27:16,838
No, I agree.

433
00:27:16,958 --> 00:27:20,758
You just got to make sure you don't accidentally join a cult because I know there's a fine line in there.

434
00:27:23,098 --> 00:27:23,778
That's funny.

435
00:27:23,938 --> 00:27:28,778
I've been telling my friends for years, nobody on a white horse is going to come save you.

436
00:27:29,538 --> 00:27:31,638
You can't change what's going on in the swamp.

437
00:27:32,158 --> 00:27:37,298
There's nothing you can do at the macro level to change the collapse of empire.

438
00:27:38,078 --> 00:27:39,158
There's nothing you can do.

439
00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:45,738
but you can be very strong here. And then you can be strong for your children,

440
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your family, your friends, your fellow churchgoers, your neighbors, whatever the tribe is that you

441
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consider to your tribe. Now, if you want to, once you've done that, if you want to get on a soapbox

442
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and try to have a larger voice, run for local politics, whatever, that's great. But you've got

443
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to start at home and be ready and resilient and ready for what's coming. And you can't do it

444
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around other people.

445
00:28:11,258 --> 00:28:11,778
Yeah.

446
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Because as one writer said,

447
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anarchy is just nine meals away.

448
00:28:17,918 --> 00:28:19,258
Pretty much, right?

449
00:28:19,378 --> 00:28:21,238
And I'd like to also point out

450
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there's a common misconception, right?

451
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I mean, societally,

452
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we've been trained to think that,

453
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you know,

454
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whenever you hear the word anarchy,

455
00:28:30,658 --> 00:28:31,698
that is, you know,

456
00:28:31,778 --> 00:28:34,778
destruction and maiming and...

457
00:28:35,298 --> 00:28:35,618
Oh, I know.

458
00:28:35,738 --> 00:28:36,898
...just craziness.

459
00:28:37,138 --> 00:28:37,778
And really, that's...

460
00:28:37,778 --> 00:28:41,058
That's, you were born an anarchist.

461
00:28:41,278 --> 00:28:41,458
Yeah.

462
00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:42,098
You were.

463
00:28:42,418 --> 00:28:46,658
There was no, you know, there's no ruler over, you're just.

464
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I was, I was using the term as people commonly consume it to be.

465
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I totally agree with you.

466
00:28:52,878 --> 00:28:53,118
Yeah.

467
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I just, I, that's one of those things I'm kind of like, uh, you know, I, I want that.

468
00:28:58,318 --> 00:29:04,778
I want society to start to understand that, that, that, that actual term has been, you

469
00:29:04,778 --> 00:29:09,138
know, kind of captured to equate to bad things.

470
00:29:09,138 --> 00:29:16,118
And, you know, what it essentially stands for, not essentially, it's, you know, two pieces,

471
00:29:16,418 --> 00:29:21,058
two different words, an and arky, right?

472
00:29:21,138 --> 00:29:24,058
One is without and the other is rulers.

473
00:29:24,538 --> 00:29:27,178
That's literally what anarchy means.

474
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That's it.

475
00:29:27,918 --> 00:29:35,758
so you can assign it burning cars and trashing homes and all this stuff that if you want to but

476
00:29:35,758 --> 00:29:43,598
it's it's like saying that a pool is actually uh you know good term to use for the sky it doesn't

477
00:29:43,598 --> 00:29:51,218
equate it's yeah definitely incorrect a friend of mine joked he said the worst possible form of

478
00:29:51,218 --> 00:29:58,418
government would be a geiner key. It's government by 100% by women. I'm only kidding, ladies. I was

479
00:29:58,418 --> 00:30:04,218
only kidding, just having a little fun. I mean...

480
00:30:04,218 --> 00:30:08,218
Don't, no, let's just change it. Save yourself, Havoc. Don't go there.

481
00:30:08,738 --> 00:30:09,558
My wife.

482
00:30:13,058 --> 00:30:13,538
No.

483
00:30:13,998 --> 00:30:16,018
Our job is to figure them out. Go ahead.

484
00:30:16,018 --> 00:30:26,078
Right, right. So one of the other areas you focus on that you said was constitutional taxation. What does that mean exactly?

485
00:30:28,178 --> 00:30:38,178
Well, all the money powers that the federal government is authorized to perform are in the Constitution.

486
00:30:38,178 --> 00:30:42,098
most people have never read it

487
00:30:42,098 --> 00:30:44,638
literally never read it

488
00:30:44,638 --> 00:30:47,378
I mean never actually read it

489
00:30:47,378 --> 00:30:49,178
you can read it in 20 minutes

490
00:30:49,178 --> 00:30:50,698
at the average adult reading speed

491
00:30:50,698 --> 00:30:53,318
you can go to the National Archives

492
00:30:53,318 --> 00:30:55,198
and worship it behind bulletproof glass

493
00:30:55,198 --> 00:30:57,278
and a very serious armed marine

494
00:30:57,278 --> 00:30:59,398
walk by and gape at it

495
00:30:59,398 --> 00:31:00,458
as if it were the Mona Lisa

496
00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:03,058
but most people have never read it

497
00:31:03,058 --> 00:31:04,678
when you read it

498
00:31:04,678 --> 00:31:06,158
you discover that there are two

499
00:31:06,158 --> 00:31:12,498
types of taxes authorized to be collected under the Constitution, which are direct taxes

500
00:31:12,498 --> 00:31:20,198
and indirect taxes. You're also taught in school that the 16th Amendment amended the Constitution

501
00:31:20,198 --> 00:31:26,238
to allow for the collection of an income tax, and then the red herring, although true,

502
00:31:26,758 --> 00:31:32,818
is that it was never lawfully ratified, which is a moot point because it did not amend the

503
00:31:32,818 --> 00:31:43,578
Constitution. It was a psychological operation to worm in the 1916 income tax, 13 income tax,

504
00:31:43,598 --> 00:31:49,418
along with the Federal Reserve and the passage of the 16th Amendment within the same nine months

505
00:31:49,418 --> 00:31:55,978
in the same year as a match set. Because you have to have a confiscatory income tax

506
00:31:55,978 --> 00:31:59,118
to stabilize the purchasing power of fiat money.

507
00:31:59,118 --> 00:32:15,198
Well, if you're going to base your economy on debt and the ability to create money out of thin air where it never existed, you've got to backfill that with something, right?

508
00:32:15,598 --> 00:32:15,838
Yeah.

509
00:32:15,838 --> 00:32:39,718
And that's essentially what that is, is, you know, they took liberties, I will say, with the way things were stated to us that made it seem that at the end of the day, well, they did.

510
00:32:39,878 --> 00:32:40,198
They tried.

511
00:32:40,198 --> 00:32:40,438
No.

512
00:32:40,898 --> 00:32:41,518
They tried.

513
00:32:41,518 --> 00:32:42,498
You're breaking my heart here.

514
00:32:42,618 --> 00:32:43,198
Come on.

515
00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:44,778
Where's the Kleenex?

516
00:32:44,778 --> 00:32:45,418
Right.

517
00:32:45,838 --> 00:33:08,198
They made it seem like this was part of their authority, but there's a Supreme Court case that actually came in. I think it was not too long after that, 10, 12 years after that. And the judgment in the case was that the 16th Amendment conferred no new taxation authority.

518
00:33:08,198 --> 00:33:10,338
No new power of taxation were the exact words.

519
00:33:10,518 --> 00:33:11,378
Oh, okay. It was.

520
00:33:11,558 --> 00:33:14,598
So let's talk about it. Why is that true? Why is that true?

521
00:33:14,598 --> 00:33:17,618
How was the 16th Amendment of PSYOP?

522
00:33:20,678 --> 00:33:21,818
I'm not trying to quiz you.

523
00:33:21,898 --> 00:33:23,098
I'm asking you rhetorically.

524
00:33:23,198 --> 00:33:24,138
I can go there if you want.

525
00:33:24,218 --> 00:33:27,138
I don't know if you want the weekend lecture or the five-minute.

526
00:33:27,538 --> 00:33:29,278
No, let's go with the weekend lecture.

527
00:33:30,678 --> 00:33:31,718
That's the best part.

528
00:33:32,218 --> 00:33:33,098
Let's get into it.

529
00:33:34,138 --> 00:33:36,518
Well, direct taxes are apportioned among the states.

530
00:33:38,238 --> 00:33:42,098
There's no authority in the Constitution to directly tax the individual, tax the citizen.

531
00:33:42,758 --> 00:33:52,178
So in the era of the founders, the idea of the federal government having any debt that carried over from year to year was just unacceptable and unheard of.

532
00:33:53,058 --> 00:33:58,178
And debts might be accumulated to pursue or prosecute a war, and then you'd pay them off as quickly as you could.

533
00:33:59,478 --> 00:34:04,718
So the way I like to joke about it, just suppose right today that Trump decided to invade Canada.

534
00:34:05,618 --> 00:34:08,138
And Congress passes the Let's Invade Canada Act.

535
00:34:08,638 --> 00:34:11,038
It's going to cost $435 billion.

536
00:34:12,098 --> 00:34:15,918
Well, it just so happens there's 435 representatives in the House of Representatives.

537
00:34:16,818 --> 00:34:17,658
New Hampshire has two.

538
00:34:18,558 --> 00:34:22,958
I don't have the exact count in California, but it's in the 30s or 50s.

539
00:34:23,038 --> 00:34:24,138
Texas is like 30, right?

540
00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:26,018
It's uniform throughout the state.

541
00:34:26,078 --> 00:34:27,858
That's why there's a census every 10 years.

542
00:34:29,398 --> 00:34:36,018
So New Hampshire would owe two 435ths of that apportionment, which would come from the State

543
00:34:36,018 --> 00:34:44,238
Department to the legislature of the state of New Hampshire demanding that payment. Or they send in

544
00:34:44,238 --> 00:34:51,258
federal troops like Washington and Hamilton did over the Whiskey Rebellion. So now I get a letter

545
00:34:51,258 --> 00:34:56,938
in the mail from the State Department of Revenue saying, Mr. Phillips, you and your family each

546
00:34:56,938 --> 00:35:02,018
owe your... Let me back up a little bit. Now New Hampshire's got to figure out how they're going to

547
00:35:02,018 --> 00:35:10,398
raise their $2 billion, which is $2,400, right? Well, they're going to apportion that somehow

548
00:35:10,398 --> 00:35:15,838
under the state's constitution and try to collect it from the good people of New Hampshire.

549
00:35:16,458 --> 00:35:19,998
And I get a letter in the mailbox that says, have your check payable to the State Department of

550
00:35:19,998 --> 00:35:26,578
Revenue by next Tuesday. And everyone's out in the street with pitchforks and actually today with

551
00:35:26,578 --> 00:35:33,578
TV remotes and cell phones. I guess we've gone past torches and pitchforks. And now there's this

552
00:35:33,578 --> 00:35:40,258
massive riotous blowback to Congress of massive protests. We're not going to pay it. Congress

553
00:35:40,258 --> 00:35:46,858
said, ooh, that wasn't a good idea. We better rescind that bill. So it was a measure. It was a

554
00:35:46,858 --> 00:35:56,538
deliberate, very, very difficult to move through legislative process to get one of these direct

555
00:35:56,538 --> 00:36:02,158
taxes a portion. We've only had five in America's history, and they were all in the late 1800s.

556
00:36:03,298 --> 00:36:07,978
They could vote tomorrow morning to apportion a direct tax to all the states and pay off the

557
00:36:07,978 --> 00:36:18,458
entire federal debt if they wanted to. So indirect taxes, theoretically, there's nothing of that

558
00:36:18,458 --> 00:36:23,298
tier of value unless you sold everything and everyone.

559
00:36:24,018 --> 00:36:26,498
Right. Yeah. They're working on it.

560
00:36:26,538 --> 00:36:28,818
All of your corporate assets.

561
00:36:29,738 --> 00:36:29,978
Yes.

562
00:36:30,498 --> 00:36:31,178
Yes, Erwin.

563
00:36:31,598 --> 00:36:32,098
I agree.

564
00:36:32,938 --> 00:36:41,898
So now getting into the income tax, the income tax has unique, I should say indirect taxes have unique properties.

565
00:36:42,278 --> 00:36:44,798
For one thing, they're uniform throughout the states.

566
00:36:46,098 --> 00:36:51,098
They're excises intended originally on imposts, imports, and duties.

567
00:36:51,098 --> 00:36:53,818
and they're avoidable

568
00:36:53,818 --> 00:36:57,058
because you don't have to participate

569
00:36:57,058 --> 00:36:58,658
in the activity that's taxed.

570
00:36:59,338 --> 00:37:00,738
Putting a stamp on a letter,

571
00:37:00,898 --> 00:37:01,738
it's an excise tax.

572
00:37:02,818 --> 00:37:03,658
Use the internet,

573
00:37:03,798 --> 00:37:06,758
you're paying the Al Gore internet tax, right?

574
00:37:07,018 --> 00:37:08,218
You pump gasoline,

575
00:37:08,658 --> 00:37:10,218
regardless of the price of the pump,

576
00:37:10,738 --> 00:37:13,458
there's a core amount embedded within that price

577
00:37:13,458 --> 00:37:16,118
that takes care of the motor vehicle fuel excise tax.

578
00:37:16,118 --> 00:37:32,198
And so when you get into the 16th Amendment, it said Congress, the income can be basically from whatever source arrived without apportionment, enumeration or apportionment among the states.

579
00:37:33,498 --> 00:37:37,778
Well, indirect taxes were never subject to the rule of apportionment, ever.

580
00:37:39,098 --> 00:37:44,398
And what happened was, if you read the Supreme Court decisions, it's almost like they're mocking Congress.

581
00:37:45,098 --> 00:37:46,118
Like, you've got to be crazy.

582
00:37:46,518 --> 00:37:48,238
There's no new power of taxation here.

583
00:37:49,038 --> 00:37:55,078
But it created the authority in the minds of the people that something new and hitherto unknown,

584
00:37:55,078 --> 00:38:01,998
like this new somehow bastard hybrid tax that was somewhere in between direct and indirect had been foisted on the people.

585
00:38:01,998 --> 00:38:18,958
But what had happened prior to that in the early 1900s is all the big moguls and financiers and all the Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers and all these folks had, this is prior to radio.

586
00:38:20,098 --> 00:38:21,898
The medium of the day was the newspaper.

587
00:38:22,818 --> 00:38:29,378
So they bought up controlling interest in about 25 of the top newspapers, mostly along the eastern seaboard.

588
00:38:29,378 --> 00:38:35,478
And for several years, it said the income tax is coming, but you won't pay it.

589
00:38:36,278 --> 00:38:42,058
It's 1% tax, and we're going to soak the rich, which really sold well in Main Street.

590
00:38:43,278 --> 00:38:44,038
Which is weird.

591
00:38:44,338 --> 00:38:47,998
It's almost like history has repeated itself.

592
00:38:48,018 --> 00:38:48,618
Well, it rhymes.

593
00:38:48,678 --> 00:38:49,138
It doesn't repeat.

594
00:38:49,218 --> 00:38:49,798
It rhymes, right?

595
00:38:49,938 --> 00:38:50,658
It does rhyme.

596
00:38:51,058 --> 00:38:56,058
And so what the wealthy had already done is they had sheltered all of their assets in complex trusts.

597
00:38:56,058 --> 00:39:03,178
then they buy up the newspapers and tell the people the income tax is coming then they buy

598
00:39:03,178 --> 00:39:08,738
up congress and they make sure that the income tax act the federal reserve act and the 16th

599
00:39:08,738 --> 00:39:13,958
amendment again are all passed as a package deal and they guarantee the transfer of wealth

600
00:39:13,958 --> 00:39:21,158
from the first producers of money who get it for nothing to the end users who pay through the nose

601
00:39:21,158 --> 00:39:25,478
their whole life as it literally melts away like like an ice cube in the palm of their hand

602
00:39:25,478 --> 00:39:28,598
it's lost 97% of its purchasing power.

603
00:39:29,778 --> 00:39:32,938
Well, I mean, when you've got inflation built in as a, as a,

604
00:39:32,938 --> 00:39:36,058
as a mode of economic condition,

605
00:39:36,058 --> 00:39:40,278
then you are debasing your own currency over time. There,

606
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,038
there's no other way to look at that.

607
00:39:42,698 --> 00:39:45,538
Well, if you want to have some fun, um, I just,

608
00:39:45,618 --> 00:39:50,258
I use this as a teaching example is a used cars towards the end of their life

609
00:39:50,258 --> 00:39:54,338
depreciated about 12% per year. Okay.

610
00:39:54,338 --> 00:39:56,938
and the Federal Reserve note, and we'll call it the dollar,

611
00:39:57,278 --> 00:40:03,498
has been losing purchasing power of a true inflation of about 6% per year for the last 25 years.

612
00:40:04,318 --> 00:40:08,418
So if you're holding your life savings in a 401k or IRA,

613
00:40:08,978 --> 00:40:13,758
it's losing value only half as fast as a used car.

614
00:40:15,538 --> 00:40:16,018
Yeah.

615
00:40:17,298 --> 00:40:18,258
Gives you a second, what?

616
00:40:20,098 --> 00:40:21,418
That's a friend of mine.

617
00:40:21,498 --> 00:40:23,098
That's what it took to wake you up, huh?

618
00:40:23,598 --> 00:40:24,298
Now you get it.

619
00:40:24,338 --> 00:40:44,698
Yeah, I mean, you just look at it and you see a lot of it now today with younger generations being upset at the older generations for their better conditions and easier money and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

620
00:40:44,698 --> 00:40:54,738
um in one thing that they seem to always focus in on and one can make their own speculation as to

621
00:40:54,738 --> 00:41:00,178
why this is but you know they always focus in on this older generation like you had this and

622
00:41:00,178 --> 00:41:04,618
you squandered it you allowed this to happen well it's your fault personally i looked it up

623
00:41:05,218 --> 00:41:11,798
right okay boomer exactly but but what what actually if you were to look at it from the

624
00:41:11,798 --> 00:41:16,838
standpoint of the people that they're blaming now and go back, you know, six years from that,

625
00:41:17,138 --> 00:41:23,058
you'd see the same thing, right? And, and it's just the way the system is set up. If you want

626
00:41:23,058 --> 00:41:29,418
to be mad at someone, be mad at the system, be mad at the fact that this is the way the system

627
00:41:29,418 --> 00:41:48,316
is designed Be mad at 1913 where we essentially sold our entire and this isn even true true statement but I going to say it anyway even though I know 100 this isn truth But at that point we effectively sold our entire

628
00:41:48,316 --> 00:41:54,756
economy over to a group of bankers, essentially. That's true. It's not an overstatement.

629
00:41:55,476 --> 00:42:03,016
It was a multi-generational dynastic. Go ahead. Well, the only thing I want to say about that is

630
00:42:03,016 --> 00:42:10,516
that was occurring far before that, right? It just wasn't written into law at that point,

631
00:42:10,576 --> 00:42:16,356
right? So it was occurring, it was happening, but at a far slower pace, which is where you saw these

632
00:42:16,356 --> 00:42:21,696
long-term areas where people think people had it so good. But remember, these same people had to

633
00:42:21,696 --> 00:42:27,796
grow food in their garden because food was not something you could count on having.

634
00:42:28,376 --> 00:42:29,816
Right. And there was no Walmart.

635
00:42:30,436 --> 00:42:32,996
Yeah. No, there was not. So-

636
00:42:33,016 --> 00:42:43,916
You know, the history of it becomes something, if you really care to look into it, it wasn't the generation like my father that created this mess, right?

637
00:42:44,096 --> 00:42:49,076
Although arguably, you know, a portion of them had a hand to play in it.

638
00:42:49,176 --> 00:42:51,396
We all do to some extent, right?

639
00:42:52,016 --> 00:42:56,196
Unless you're sitting there going, nope, I'm not going to be a party to this.

640
00:42:56,276 --> 00:42:59,576
I'm not going to participate in it and I'm going to get out of it.

641
00:42:59,756 --> 00:43:01,056
And that's on you.

642
00:43:01,476 --> 00:43:01,956
Yeah.

643
00:43:01,956 --> 00:43:16,756
No, I totally agree. This has been a deliberate, engineered takeover of the rebel colonies that the city of London was not able to capture at the end of the 1700s.

644
00:43:16,756 --> 00:43:28,656
They came back in 1812, weren't successful, and then tried to divide the North and the South by funding both sides of the war between the states.

645
00:43:28,656 --> 00:43:31,956
and then they fomented the great crash,

646
00:43:33,296 --> 00:43:35,216
many crashes throughout the 1800s,

647
00:43:35,276 --> 00:43:36,096
many depressions,

648
00:43:36,316 --> 00:43:38,796
all the way through World War I, World War II,

649
00:43:39,356 --> 00:43:40,836
the whole expansion of empire.

650
00:43:41,696 --> 00:43:44,636
And then today we see Trump sitting down

651
00:43:44,636 --> 00:43:49,036
with this joker

652
00:43:49,036 --> 00:43:51,076
who's called the King of England.

653
00:43:51,076 --> 00:43:53,216
I wouldn't pay this guy to empty my septic tank.

654
00:43:54,896 --> 00:43:57,156
In a room that's trimmed with gold leaf

655
00:43:57,156 --> 00:44:00,776
and we're right back where we started.

656
00:44:01,576 --> 00:44:04,276
Caligula hosts Chuck.

657
00:44:04,796 --> 00:44:05,236
Absolutely.

658
00:44:05,236 --> 00:44:07,276
That's my take on the meeting in Washington.

659
00:44:07,516 --> 00:44:10,396
Caligula and Chuck get together, shake hands.

660
00:44:11,396 --> 00:44:13,396
Their wives are looking all pretty and dolled up

661
00:44:13,396 --> 00:44:16,156
in $5,000 Gucci dresses.

662
00:44:16,776 --> 00:44:20,256
The average person out there can't afford to eat at Shoney's anymore.

663
00:44:20,596 --> 00:44:24,076
They're skipping meals to feed their kid and even feed their dog.

664
00:44:24,076 --> 00:44:33,256
and this is going to go down like a dumpster fire it's going to get very bad and i'm a very

665
00:44:33,256 --> 00:44:38,636
optimistic fun-loving guy i my friend of mine said you could have been a stand-up comic in another

666
00:44:38,636 --> 00:44:46,256
life i enjoy tossing babies into the air as much as any guy does to the horror of their wives

667
00:44:46,256 --> 00:44:47,596
of their mothers.

668
00:44:48,456 --> 00:44:53,456
But I'm a realist, hard-nosed, and it's coming.

669
00:44:54,296 --> 00:44:56,696
And it's going to be bad, very bad.

670
00:44:57,256 --> 00:44:57,736
Yeah.

671
00:44:58,036 --> 00:44:58,676
I do say.

672
00:44:59,416 --> 00:45:01,156
I might be jumping ahead too much,

673
00:45:01,276 --> 00:45:03,056
like just flipping to the back of the book,

674
00:45:03,176 --> 00:45:06,736
but what is the end game for these people?

675
00:45:07,216 --> 00:45:08,336
Well, it's ultimate control.

676
00:45:09,416 --> 00:45:12,016
It's to turn the world into a digital prison camp

677
00:45:12,016 --> 00:45:20,296
with ultimate control over food, water, travel, communication, reproduction.

678
00:45:21,436 --> 00:45:24,756
They're heavily engaged in DOD population campaign.

679
00:45:24,896 --> 00:45:27,136
They've been poisoning the people for 50, 60 years.

680
00:45:27,756 --> 00:45:29,596
All they're doing is speeding things up.

681
00:45:31,456 --> 00:45:38,456
And having a 100% programmable currency, if the people allow it, and I think they will,

682
00:45:39,376 --> 00:45:43,116
The 95% of the public has never resisted tyranny throughout human history.

683
00:45:43,976 --> 00:45:46,156
That's not a condemnation of our fellow man.

684
00:45:46,196 --> 00:45:46,936
It's just the truth.

685
00:45:47,516 --> 00:45:48,716
They're either growing food.

686
00:45:48,816 --> 00:45:49,476
They're hard at work.

687
00:45:49,556 --> 00:45:51,136
They don't have a minute to think for themselves.

688
00:45:51,736 --> 00:45:54,456
They wake up at the very last minute when things are so bad,

689
00:45:54,516 --> 00:45:56,236
they have no choice but to go out to the street.

690
00:45:56,996 --> 00:45:59,996
And by then they're already trapped.

691
00:46:01,276 --> 00:46:02,296
Cage doors are closed.

692
00:46:02,296 --> 00:46:03,596
I'm pretty sure I've read that book.

693
00:46:04,316 --> 00:46:05,036
I'm pretty sure.

694
00:46:05,856 --> 00:46:07,676
Yeah, that four-digit book.

695
00:46:08,036 --> 00:46:08,176
Yeah.

696
00:46:08,456 --> 00:46:14,016
It wasn't supposed to be a manual, but, you know, hey.

697
00:46:14,516 --> 00:46:16,476
Yeah, and Animal Farm.

698
00:46:17,036 --> 00:46:17,916
Right, yeah.

699
00:46:18,536 --> 00:46:21,076
I like the closing message, right?

700
00:46:22,416 --> 00:46:27,256
Imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever.

701
00:46:28,056 --> 00:46:29,876
Forever, yeah.

702
00:46:30,036 --> 00:46:30,236
Yeah.

703
00:46:30,896 --> 00:46:32,996
We're heading in that direction.

704
00:46:34,216 --> 00:46:35,156
They're very good at it.

705
00:46:35,156 --> 00:46:37,696
Are you familiar with The Great Taking by David Webb?

706
00:46:38,456 --> 00:46:40,096
I am not, actually.

707
00:46:40,096 --> 00:46:41,236
Boy, that's another one.

708
00:46:41,316 --> 00:46:42,116
Write that one down.

709
00:46:42,796 --> 00:46:49,916
You can go to thegreattaking.com, and you can watch the documentary for free, or you can read his book for free.

710
00:46:50,696 --> 00:47:07,876
Former hedge fund manager, he did research into how the Uniform Commercial Code, starting in the 90s once again, was modified in all 50 states to allow for the taking of equity.

711
00:47:07,876 --> 00:47:15,736
encumbered with debt in a banking crisis. You no longer have traditional, historic,

712
00:47:16,236 --> 00:47:23,076
common law, constitutional title to your property. It's one of the most important things you can do.

713
00:47:23,336 --> 00:47:30,776
I'm telling you is watch that video, The Great Taking. And he and other people are traveling the

714
00:47:30,776 --> 00:47:34,276
country, speaking with legislators in all the states, trying to get them to wake up

715
00:47:34,276 --> 00:47:39,076
and take action and being met with tremendous resistance,

716
00:47:39,276 --> 00:47:40,756
all financed by the banking lobby.

717
00:47:42,116 --> 00:47:46,616
Yeah, that's one area for me that's always been,

718
00:47:47,196 --> 00:47:51,016
not always, but at least for quite some time now.

719
00:47:52,136 --> 00:47:56,576
The idea that you could get the people that are benefiting

720
00:47:56,576 --> 00:48:03,496
from the current system to vote that power and money away from themselves

721
00:48:03,496 --> 00:48:07,736
seems to me like a pipe dream.

722
00:48:07,856 --> 00:48:08,976
It's a fairy tale.

723
00:48:09,276 --> 00:48:11,756
And I've never really truly understood

724
00:48:11,756 --> 00:48:14,256
why people actually believe that, right?

725
00:48:14,316 --> 00:48:16,976
I mean, why would you believe

726
00:48:16,976 --> 00:48:21,496
that voting, no matter who you get in there,

727
00:48:21,616 --> 00:48:24,736
is going to cause these people to say,

728
00:48:24,896 --> 00:48:26,816
oh, no, you're right, we have too much power.

729
00:48:26,896 --> 00:48:27,716
We're going to give some up.

730
00:48:28,036 --> 00:48:29,996
You're right, we're making way too much money.

731
00:48:30,076 --> 00:48:31,396
We're going to give that up too.

732
00:48:31,396 --> 00:48:34,256
And, you know, we don't need all this pomp and circumstance.

733
00:48:34,456 --> 00:48:35,596
We're going to give that up too.

734
00:48:36,636 --> 00:48:37,476
It's ridiculous.

735
00:48:38,076 --> 00:48:41,916
We're going to get back up 100 yards and ask, who has the power to vote in the first place?

736
00:48:42,896 --> 00:48:44,156
Well, you know—

737
00:48:44,156 --> 00:48:45,616
Forty percent of the public is illiterate.

738
00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:47,516
They can't do basic math on a calculator.

739
00:48:48,196 --> 00:48:49,476
They've never read the Constitution.

740
00:48:49,696 --> 00:48:54,136
You ask these teenagers, they think we separated from Canada in 1776.

741
00:48:55,176 --> 00:49:00,396
And if they can fog a mirror, they have the right to go in and select people who can write—

742
00:49:01,396 --> 00:49:08,436
laws and put on paper words that make us do what they command us to do. Otherwise,

743
00:49:08,796 --> 00:49:16,176
we suffer fees and penalties. And they call it legislation. And half of them are a bunch of

744
00:49:16,176 --> 00:49:23,396
free... It looks like a bar scene from Star Wars in Congress. Literally. And we're going to ask

745
00:49:23,396 --> 00:49:28,876
these people, state by state by state, to go against how their bread is buttered?

746
00:49:28,876 --> 00:49:29,816
Not a chance.

747
00:49:29,836 --> 00:49:36,096
The whole thing is just, you have to, like George Carlin, he said we have a front row seat to the collapse in America.

748
00:49:36,956 --> 00:49:38,616
In America, you've got a front row seat.

749
00:49:39,036 --> 00:49:40,416
Get your popcorn ready.

750
00:49:40,936 --> 00:49:42,236
Buy some agricultural futures.

751
00:49:42,336 --> 00:49:43,856
Get your popcorn ready.

752
00:49:44,236 --> 00:49:47,136
It's a big club, and brother, you're in it.

753
00:49:47,336 --> 00:49:49,876
Yeah, the club they hit you all over the head with every day.

754
00:49:50,476 --> 00:49:50,916
Exactly.

755
00:49:52,916 --> 00:49:55,256
So one of my favorite quotes is from a guy.

756
00:49:55,256 --> 00:50:06,236
And this gentleman, as well as another gentleman about a century prior in France, have been very influential to me.

757
00:50:06,596 --> 00:50:13,776
But one of my favorite quotes is, but whether the Constitution really be one thing or another, this much is certain.

758
00:50:14,516 --> 00:50:20,856
That it has either authorized such a government as we have had or has been powerless to prevent it.

759
00:50:20,856 --> 00:50:24,696
In either case, it is unfit to exist.

760
00:50:25,256 --> 00:50:33,496
and that's license thank you thank you no treason the constitution of no authority yes yes yes yes

761
00:50:33,496 --> 00:50:38,636
thank you boy am i glad uh this is yeah i'm happy you just made my you just made my week

762
00:50:38,636 --> 00:50:45,996
i can't believe someone else knows that like wow it's kind of kind of validating so thanks go ahead

763
00:50:45,996 --> 00:50:50,876
yeah absolutely and and the funny thing about this is you know people think you know oh the

764
00:50:50,876 --> 00:50:56,096
government's gotten so bad. What you have to understand is this gentleman started a letter

765
00:50:56,096 --> 00:50:58,916
company, the American Letter Mail Company. That's right.

766
00:50:59,416 --> 00:51:05,976
And it was cheaper, more efficient, faster than the postal service was.

767
00:51:05,976 --> 00:51:06,456
Yeah.

768
00:51:06,956 --> 00:51:11,376
The government took him to task because they hate competition.

769
00:51:12,016 --> 00:51:12,916
Sure, of course.

770
00:51:13,016 --> 00:51:18,516
I mean, at the end of the day, right? And I would urge anyone to pick up that. It's a very,

771
00:51:18,516 --> 00:51:25,296
very small book, but it will open your eyes to things happening in the 1800s that you think

772
00:51:25,296 --> 00:51:31,476
may have started in the 70s, 80s. It did not. No. No, I remember reading him saying,

773
00:51:31,576 --> 00:51:37,596
I'm paraphrasing, of course, he said, why do I agree to this constitution? I didn't sign it.

774
00:51:38,016 --> 00:51:43,616
Yeah. I remember the day I read that, my brain froze. It's one of those out-of-body moments

775
00:51:43,616 --> 00:51:47,236
where you realize something just changed in your world, right?

776
00:51:47,496 --> 00:51:50,416
He says, I was born into this.

777
00:51:51,016 --> 00:51:52,196
I didn't agree to this.

778
00:51:52,816 --> 00:51:54,596
Why do I consent to this?

779
00:51:54,776 --> 00:51:55,416
I said, wow.

780
00:51:55,816 --> 00:51:58,096
So my joke has always been,

781
00:51:59,096 --> 00:52:01,836
a Republican is a Democrat who got mugged.

782
00:52:02,476 --> 00:52:07,156
Okay, and then a Libertarian is a Republican who got mugged,

783
00:52:07,196 --> 00:52:10,796
and a Constitutionalist is a Libertarian who got mugged.

784
00:52:10,796 --> 00:52:14,816
and then if you mug a libertarian,

785
00:52:14,916 --> 00:52:17,476
you go all the way around until you bump into Nancy Pelosi.

786
00:52:18,356 --> 00:52:18,676
Oh, gosh.

787
00:52:20,276 --> 00:52:22,116
But on the way, you pass Lysander.

788
00:52:22,796 --> 00:52:23,176
Yep.

789
00:52:24,076 --> 00:52:25,476
Because he's got the truth right there.

790
00:52:25,516 --> 00:52:28,156
He had it absolutely nailed.

791
00:52:29,056 --> 00:52:30,536
He totally got it completely.

792
00:52:31,716 --> 00:52:34,856
But he was hundreds of years ahead of his time.

793
00:52:35,316 --> 00:52:36,056
Well, yeah.

794
00:52:36,416 --> 00:52:36,856
Literally.

795
00:52:36,856 --> 00:52:39,396
You can go back before that about a century

796
00:52:39,396 --> 00:52:41,156
and you look at Friedrich Bastiat.

797
00:52:42,076 --> 00:52:43,396
Friedrich Bastiat, yes, if you have the law.

798
00:52:43,976 --> 00:52:45,836
I homeschooled all three of my kids.

799
00:52:46,316 --> 00:52:49,156
They listened to that before we called them podcasts.

800
00:52:49,776 --> 00:52:50,056
Yep.

801
00:52:50,296 --> 00:52:51,796
They listened to that on replay.

802
00:52:52,716 --> 00:52:54,816
I didn't record it, but I know someone who did.

803
00:52:55,736 --> 00:52:55,936
Yeah.

804
00:52:55,936 --> 00:52:56,676
Oh, yeah, amen.

805
00:52:56,876 --> 00:53:00,976
And then Economics in One Lesson by Hazlitt.

806
00:53:01,376 --> 00:53:01,656
Yep.

807
00:53:01,656 --> 00:53:04,616
All essential, hardcore homeschool.

808
00:53:05,336 --> 00:53:07,636
How to turn your kids into little rebels normally, kid.

809
00:53:07,676 --> 00:53:08,436
That's not what I did.

810
00:53:08,436 --> 00:53:20,156
Well, how to inform them and how to have them gain a better understanding of the system and its underpinnings.

811
00:53:20,156 --> 00:53:32,436
Yes. My goal was kind of based on the Kenny Rogers song, The Gambler. You got to teach him, you know, he needs to know when to hold him, when to fold him, and when to walk away.

812
00:53:32,436 --> 00:53:38,596
you got to be smart enough to get along in society be smart enough to know when to act dumb enough

813
00:53:38,596 --> 00:53:47,336
to get along and don't ever ever be elite don't judge other people don't put people down because

814
00:53:47,336 --> 00:53:52,176
you know more than they do because you're fortunate that you're better educated i say the same for

815
00:53:52,176 --> 00:53:58,876
myself i was dumb as a stump till i was 40 when i learned all of this stuff yeah but um i taught

816
00:53:58,876 --> 00:54:06,676
my kid, we'd hold a penny. There's Abraham Lincoln, the great emancipator who freed the

817
00:54:06,676 --> 00:54:12,976
slaves and saved the union, don't you know? And then we turn the penny over and it's all dark and

818
00:54:12,976 --> 00:54:19,796
dirty and corroded. There's the great tyrant who had members of the Maryland state legislature

819
00:54:19,796 --> 00:54:24,476
arrested so they couldn't secede. He would have had the Southern Army on the other side of the

820
00:54:24,476 --> 00:54:28,516
Potomac. The things he did could have been attributed to Saddam Hussein.

821
00:54:30,536 --> 00:54:36,496
And I taught my kids both sides of the story. I said, now one side is the only side your friends

822
00:54:36,496 --> 00:54:43,076
in public school know. You need to know the truth. Just remember, you're going to want to

823
00:54:43,076 --> 00:54:47,616
use discretion as to when you reveal what you know. You don't want to be a smarty pants.

824
00:54:47,616 --> 00:54:51,136
you want to maintain your humility

825
00:54:51,136 --> 00:54:55,196
but it's my job as your father

826
00:54:55,196 --> 00:54:58,136
I can't let you get out of the nest as a dummy

827
00:54:58,136 --> 00:54:59,196
you got to know the truth

828
00:54:59,196 --> 00:55:01,216
and that's a balance

829
00:55:01,216 --> 00:55:04,196
it was tricky striking that balance

830
00:55:04,196 --> 00:55:06,056
with three extremely smart kids

831
00:55:06,056 --> 00:55:08,676
but I think I succeeded

832
00:55:08,676 --> 00:55:11,156
they're all very wonderful young people

833
00:55:11,156 --> 00:55:12,236
they're all doing really well

834
00:55:12,236 --> 00:55:16,756
yeah I actually ended up in the principal's office

835
00:55:16,756 --> 00:55:18,296
in high school.

836
00:55:19,056 --> 00:55:21,236
I'm shocked. I'm really, I'm just curious.

837
00:55:22,016 --> 00:55:28,356
On this occasion, it was because I turned in a report that was asked to be done,

838
00:55:28,496 --> 00:55:33,596
which was, you know, do a report on George Washington, right?

839
00:55:34,136 --> 00:55:38,156
And they're expecting, you know, here's your school material.

840
00:55:38,156 --> 00:55:40,316
You're going to use that and you're going to write a report

841
00:55:40,316 --> 00:55:43,476
and it's going to be rosy and colorful and wonderful about this gentleman.

842
00:55:43,476 --> 00:55:54,376
And I actually went to the UCI, University of California Irvine Library, because that's where I was at the time, and did my studying there.

843
00:55:54,776 --> 00:56:07,356
And what I came back with was a picture of a gentleman who was morally bankrupt at best and really kind of hit home on those aspects of the man.

844
00:56:07,356 --> 00:56:25,916
And yeah, I got a trip to the principal's office for that because it was cited, it was sourced from college level material. So it was not inaccurate or not factual. It just wasn't speaking to the narrative that they wanted me to portray.

845
00:56:25,916 --> 00:56:38,256
And you read what Thomas Payne, his letters to Washington, once Washington was in the White House. He condemned him for acting like a king, riding around in a carriage with plumes on it pulled by white horses.

846
00:56:39,296 --> 00:56:43,776
Yep. Specifically white horses. They had to be white, all white.

847
00:56:44,696 --> 00:56:45,116
That's right.

848
00:56:45,936 --> 00:56:48,776
Yeah. Things you never get to hear.

849
00:56:48,776 --> 00:56:54,956
And then the farmers in western Pennsylvania who used whiskey as actual barter currency.

850
00:56:56,896 --> 00:57:13,336
So Hamilton, who was the banker's boy, kept popping in and out of the Constitutional Convention with his orders from abroad, had Washington, who was kind of a little off the beam there in his senior years, entrusted Hamilton.

851
00:57:13,336 --> 00:57:18,416
and they went riding in with a whole, I don't know how many troops,

852
00:57:18,996 --> 00:57:22,596
to put down the rebellion to show this new government

853
00:57:22,596 --> 00:57:26,916
that the anti-federalists feared would become another king,

854
00:57:26,976 --> 00:57:29,696
did exactly what they thought was going to happen.

855
00:57:30,556 --> 00:57:31,616
And that was the beginning.

856
00:57:31,996 --> 00:57:34,196
As a friend of mine once remarked, and I agree,

857
00:57:34,716 --> 00:57:37,536
the high watermark of this republic was 1860.

858
00:57:38,536 --> 00:57:42,196
The first damage it received was the Whiskey Rebellion,

859
00:57:42,196 --> 00:57:46,236
And then we had the Alien and Sedition Act, it was the Patriot Act of their day.

860
00:57:47,156 --> 00:57:56,776
And then we come up to the war, actually the war of the Lincoln's War, or to be more polite, the war of Southern independence.

861
00:57:57,716 --> 00:58:01,836
The war of Northern aggression is what true Southerners call it, and properly so.

862
00:58:02,036 --> 00:58:03,356
That's what I was going to say, but.

863
00:58:03,676 --> 00:58:03,896
Yeah.

864
00:58:05,676 --> 00:58:10,296
And then we march, and then the empire gets started in the early 1900s.

865
00:58:10,296 --> 00:58:13,796
and here we are today with military bases in 200 countries

866
00:58:13,796 --> 00:58:16,516
and Caligula in the White House.

867
00:58:17,336 --> 00:58:19,076
And then people say, where do you think it's going from here?

868
00:58:19,136 --> 00:58:20,096
I say, are you serious?

869
00:58:20,176 --> 00:58:21,136
Is that a serious question?

870
00:58:22,116 --> 00:58:22,336
I mean.

871
00:58:22,456 --> 00:58:24,916
Listen, take a ball, roll it down a hill

872
00:58:24,916 --> 00:58:27,696
and when it gets two thirds of the way down the hill,

873
00:58:27,816 --> 00:58:29,176
tell me where it's going from there.

874
00:58:29,476 --> 00:58:30,116
Right, there you go.

875
00:58:30,176 --> 00:58:30,556
That's good.

876
00:58:30,776 --> 00:58:30,896
Well said.

877
00:58:30,896 --> 00:58:32,116
Down the hill, faster.

878
00:58:32,596 --> 00:58:33,176
Yeah, yeah.

879
00:58:33,276 --> 00:58:35,456
Down the hill, much faster actually.

880
00:58:35,916 --> 00:58:37,416
And if it's a snowball, much bigger.

881
00:58:38,316 --> 00:58:39,036
True, true.

882
00:58:39,436 --> 00:58:39,796
Absolutely.

883
00:58:40,296 --> 00:58:51,216
Absolutely. I love the use of Caligula too, because that's something that I've said a number of times. I also like the term mango Mussolini, but hey, here we are.

884
00:58:51,216 --> 00:58:59,156
Yeah, that's good. I like that too. I hope Mr. Trump doesn't face the same fate that Mr. Mussolini did. Wouldn't wish that on anybody.

885
00:58:59,156 --> 00:59:18,856
No, I would call myself a pacifist, right? Except in the course of defense. Outside of defense, I don't see violence as being a viable option in any way, shape, or form at any time.

886
00:59:19,136 --> 00:59:19,976
I totally agree.

887
00:59:20,256 --> 00:59:21,996
There are better ways to handle things.

888
00:59:22,856 --> 00:59:23,396
I totally agree.

889
00:59:23,496 --> 00:59:26,156
The only real purpose of government is the,

890
00:59:27,096 --> 00:59:28,956
forgive me for using the word collective

891
00:59:28,956 --> 00:59:31,976
or the unified expression of the individual right of self-defense.

892
00:59:33,156 --> 00:59:33,816
That's it.

893
00:59:34,816 --> 00:59:38,276
And anymore, it's really just a monopoly on violence.

894
00:59:39,236 --> 00:59:40,876
Absolutely, 100%.

895
00:59:40,876 --> 00:59:45,656
I mean, there are literally zero, zero laws

896
00:59:45,656 --> 00:59:49,696
or legislative instances that aren't enforced

897
00:59:49,696 --> 00:59:51,876
with the eventual threat of death.

898
00:59:51,996 --> 00:59:58,516
comply or maybe just these fines and they bankrupt you then if they can't do that then

899
00:59:58,516 --> 01:00:08,556
they shoot you right yeah so interesting stuff so when you when you talk about de-risking finance

900
01:00:08,556 --> 01:00:16,916
for people um what are some of the ways that you help people de-risk as far as finances go

901
01:00:16,916 --> 01:00:27,996
And, you know, from my eyes, I look at that and I, it's a tough one because especially most people are just, you know, fully tuned into fiat.

902
01:00:28,496 --> 01:00:31,716
And I don't know how you de-risk fiat.

903
01:00:33,096 --> 01:00:34,196
Well, you do with hard assets.

904
01:00:35,496 --> 01:00:40,976
So that's the most difficult part of what I do because it's literally culty programming.

905
01:00:42,376 --> 01:00:45,956
We've been marinated in this mindset of the dollar for our whole lives.

906
01:00:45,956 --> 01:00:49,836
People accept they think inflation is just a mild, like catching a cold.

907
01:00:50,656 --> 01:00:53,336
It's just this mild, you know, the dollar.

908
01:00:53,776 --> 01:00:54,996
Here's the way I explain.

909
01:00:55,116 --> 01:00:57,816
I love because people remember visuals and they forget all the words.

910
01:00:58,776 --> 01:01:06,516
If your home shrank in size by 6% per year, within three to five years, you wouldn't be

911
01:01:06,516 --> 01:01:07,776
able to walk through the doorway.

912
01:01:08,816 --> 01:01:12,516
If your car shrank by that amount, within a few years, you couldn't even get behind

913
01:01:12,516 --> 01:01:13,256
the steering wheel.

914
01:01:13,256 --> 01:01:21,996
Most people, probably 99.9% of the American public, their entire lives are priced in dollars.

915
01:01:22,996 --> 01:01:25,016
They buy chewing gum in dollars.

916
01:01:26,356 --> 01:01:28,276
Their 401ks in dollars.

917
01:01:28,416 --> 01:01:30,096
They pay their internet bill in dollars.

918
01:01:30,896 --> 01:01:34,896
When their kid mows the lawn and gets $20 bill, everything's dollars, dollars, dollars.

919
01:01:35,316 --> 01:01:37,976
They're inextricably linked to the dollar.

920
01:01:38,416 --> 01:01:40,716
And they're going to get what the dollar gets.

921
01:01:40,716 --> 01:01:45,776
and what the dollar gets is engineered erosion of purchasing power.

922
01:01:47,356 --> 01:01:50,796
So just as an example, if somebody's, you know, pick an age,

923
01:01:50,796 --> 01:01:55,876
if somebody's 40 years old and you ask Social Security,

924
01:01:56,616 --> 01:01:59,556
based on what I've contributed so far, actually it's been stolen from me,

925
01:01:59,616 --> 01:02:01,576
but we'll be polite and say contributed so far,

926
01:02:02,236 --> 01:02:06,856
what would my monthly check be if I cash this in at 62 and a half?

927
01:02:07,536 --> 01:02:10,696
And they say, oh, yeah, we're going to send you $2,000 a month.

928
01:02:10,716 --> 01:02:18,856
what will that be worth in 35 years from now 25 years from now nobody knows it'll be worth five

929
01:02:18,856 --> 01:02:39,014
years from now it an absolute farce so you pay in if it being withheld from on a w or whatever it being paid in at curtain current purchasing power and paid back to you at seriously debased purchasing power So if you got 100 just to pick a modest number

930
01:02:39,014 --> 01:02:44,634
in your 401k right now, next year it'll buy 94,000 of what it'll buy this year, the following year,

931
01:02:44,634 --> 01:02:51,234
88, then 82, then down the drain you go. And once I can snap them out of their hypnosis

932
01:02:51,234 --> 01:02:54,294
and get them to understand what a crisis that is,

933
01:02:54,954 --> 01:02:57,154
they have to exit the system.

934
01:02:57,634 --> 01:03:00,134
Now, you've got to keep a footprint in the system

935
01:03:00,134 --> 01:03:03,594
to quack like a duck and look and function like a duck

936
01:03:03,594 --> 01:03:05,894
because you've got bills that come in next month

937
01:03:05,894 --> 01:03:07,874
and bills that come in the quarter after that.

938
01:03:08,314 --> 01:03:11,214
You have to have enough money in the system to be normal.

939
01:03:11,354 --> 01:03:12,994
The teller will smile when you show up.

940
01:03:13,014 --> 01:03:13,794
You don't look weird.

941
01:03:14,594 --> 01:03:16,794
It's like being a flock of ducks flying overhead.

942
01:03:16,794 --> 01:03:20,814
You don't want to be the one whose beak is blinking red

943
01:03:20,814 --> 01:03:25,534
you're flying upside down. You just want to blend in, be an ostensibly normal person.

944
01:03:25,934 --> 01:03:33,974
But the bulk of your net worth that's currently denominated in electrons, because that's all it is,

945
01:03:34,614 --> 01:03:39,194
is just magnetized spots on bank hard drives and financial institution hard drives.

946
01:03:39,554 --> 01:03:45,954
You want to move that into hard assets that hold their value against eroding fiat.

947
01:03:45,954 --> 01:03:57,974
Now, you've got a choice of antiques, could be paintings, could be fine art, different types of collectibles, gems, semi-precious gems, land, raw land, developed land, and precious metals.

948
01:03:58,574 --> 01:04:08,114
And of all of those, because of accessibility, fungibility, access, ease of owning, storing, handling, precious metals are the go-to.

949
01:04:08,114 --> 01:04:12,374
then to take it a step further, what class of precious metals?

950
01:04:12,434 --> 01:04:14,614
Because I do believe that when things get really bad,

951
01:04:15,194 --> 01:04:20,694
we're going to see severe capital controls on the ability to own precious metals.

952
01:04:21,514 --> 01:04:21,654
Yeah.

953
01:04:22,414 --> 01:04:24,754
History says that will happen.

954
01:04:25,474 --> 01:04:27,634
Yeah, which is why I advocate rare coins.

955
01:04:28,854 --> 01:04:33,474
That's another whole educational hurdle for people to jump over.

956
01:04:33,474 --> 01:04:43,554
because I can have a silver coin, silver dollar from 1880, let's say,

957
01:04:44,254 --> 01:04:46,294
that's so beat up you can't read the date on it.

958
01:04:46,294 --> 01:04:48,374
It doesn't really have much collectible value.

959
01:04:49,834 --> 01:04:51,974
And there's another one that looks so brand spanking new.

960
01:04:52,034 --> 01:04:55,254
Grandpa must have put it in a sock and stuck it under his toolbox

961
01:04:55,254 --> 01:04:56,414
and somebody just found it.

962
01:04:56,774 --> 01:04:58,094
It's worth $30,000.

963
01:04:58,094 --> 01:05:07,054
So with rare coins, you get the underlying appreciation in spot, which still has much further to go.

964
01:05:07,914 --> 01:05:09,714
But you also get the rarity premium.

965
01:05:11,274 --> 01:05:16,294
And rare coins, numismatics, have never been confiscated by any Western government.

966
01:05:17,014 --> 01:05:19,734
Even Roosevelt's decree in 1933 exempted them.

967
01:05:19,874 --> 01:05:27,634
Yeah, I was going to say, even the gold decree did not include gold coins, right?

968
01:05:27,634 --> 01:05:33,594
Now, gold rounds were included because that's not a coin, right?

969
01:05:33,694 --> 01:05:36,974
But gold coins were excluded from that.

970
01:05:36,974 --> 01:05:40,434
So that's the first thing I do.

971
01:05:41,194 --> 01:05:42,234
It's universal.

972
01:05:43,374 --> 01:05:45,174
Every client, you need to start right there.

973
01:05:45,214 --> 01:05:57,074
And I have a spreadsheet that I use that actually shows what percentage the client needs to move of their, I'll call it electronic money, into precious metals.

974
01:05:57,074 --> 01:06:10,534
And then that forms a new pie chart, and we break it down with gold, silver, platinum rounds, pre-64, junk silver dimes, numismatics, and the correct way to stack.

975
01:06:10,614 --> 01:06:16,954
Then we get into the next big, huge metal burden to overcome is, oh, my God, where am I going to keep all this?

976
01:06:17,994 --> 01:06:19,754
I say, well, bury it in the backyard.

977
01:06:20,334 --> 01:06:22,354
But actually bury it in your neighbor's backyard.

978
01:06:22,474 --> 01:06:23,374
Just don't tell your neighbor.

979
01:06:23,374 --> 01:06:29,914
and now we're now we got the mindset in the right direction and we start i explain if you can't drop

980
01:06:29,914 --> 01:06:35,974
it on your foot you don't own it yeah and if you don't get that go find someone else to work with

981
01:06:35,974 --> 01:06:41,994
because i don't waver on these principles and then there's if you want me to switch the subject

982
01:06:41,994 --> 01:06:47,574
we can talk about other other financial risk mitigation areas but that's the first

983
01:06:47,574 --> 01:06:56,654
big major overlay because it's sitting over their entire life yeah one thing i did not hear you say

984
01:06:56,654 --> 01:07:02,934
and we've had other people in the show talk about this quite a few times bitcoin i noticed you did

985
01:07:02,934 --> 01:07:07,954
not you did not know i mentioned that one time i am not anti-bitcoin i've thought from the very

986
01:07:07,954 --> 01:07:12,794
beginning that everybody should have a one or two or three percent holding in bitcoin

987
01:07:12,794 --> 01:07:17,474
or in crypto generally, and it's purely a speculative play.

988
01:07:18,334 --> 01:07:20,034
It's purely a speculative play.

989
01:07:20,094 --> 01:07:21,514
It has no inherent value.

990
01:07:22,714 --> 01:07:28,814
If the satellite dish goes down, if the bank, if the power grid goes down,

991
01:07:28,894 --> 01:07:31,594
the internet goes down, it's worth exactly zero.

992
01:07:32,694 --> 01:07:33,894
There is no privacy.

993
01:07:34,054 --> 01:07:35,074
They can track it completely.

994
01:07:35,074 --> 01:07:36,034
They have from day one.

995
01:07:37,154 --> 01:07:39,314
And yes, there's Monero and all these other privacy coins,

996
01:07:39,374 --> 01:07:40,234
and they can track those too.

997
01:07:40,234 --> 01:07:45,414
The NSA has quantum computing abilities way beyond what the public's been told.

998
01:07:46,314 --> 01:07:50,874
They can crack anything they want to if they choose to put you under the crosshairs.

999
01:07:51,694 --> 01:08:03,974
One of the, I think one of the key benefits when it does come to something like Bitcoin, though, is that it is highly capable of transactional stuff, right?

1000
01:08:04,894 --> 01:08:08,654
Whereas like a precious metal is far less capable of that.

1001
01:08:08,654 --> 01:08:09,034
No, I agree.

1002
01:08:09,034 --> 01:08:09,534
I agree.

1003
01:08:09,534 --> 01:08:20,954
There's no reason not to have a little bit of the action on an app on your phone if you want to go, beep, beep, and I just paid you five bucks like Venmo, except we're using Bitcoin or some other type of crypto.

1004
01:08:21,554 --> 01:08:22,294
No problem.

1005
01:08:22,334 --> 01:08:34,354
But as far as taking your entire life savings, which some people do, and putting it into Ethereum or Bitcoin or whatever, I think that would be a very risky gamble.

1006
01:08:35,474 --> 01:08:36,334
It could be.

1007
01:08:36,594 --> 01:08:38,234
And it would also depend, right?

1008
01:08:38,234 --> 01:08:45,894
You could also point to people that bought in at $120K and they're at a massive loss.

1009
01:08:46,514 --> 01:08:54,514
But you can also point to people that bought in in the early days and they are nowhere near a massive loss.

1010
01:08:54,974 --> 01:08:55,494
No, no, I agree.

1011
01:08:56,174 --> 01:09:06,294
If you're going to have a well-balanced, diversified portfolio, you make a decision what asset classes you're going to hold and then how you're going to enter each of those classes.

1012
01:09:06,294 --> 01:09:15,474
If you're entering a very volatile asset class, you can cost average in and play the game, but you have to have an exit strategy too.

1013
01:09:16,174 --> 01:09:20,294
If you're just going to buy and hold and hope for the best, well, that's just roughly a raw gamble.

1014
01:09:21,074 --> 01:09:34,834
If you're in the stock market and you know anything about technical analysis and how to read charts and candlesticks on the weekly and monthly chart on the Dow or the S&P 500, it shows you when to exit, when to get off the dance floor.

1015
01:09:34,834 --> 01:09:41,434
if you got a 401k just move it into money markets i mean there are risks mitigation protocols for

1016
01:09:41,434 --> 01:09:47,534
every asset class if you want to take a flyer on bitcoin and just not have any extra strategy and

1017
01:09:47,534 --> 01:09:52,154
worry about it because it could go to a million dollars a coin nobody knows have some fun but

1018
01:09:52,154 --> 01:09:59,174
just do it do it with a very prudent portion of your of your portfolio yeah i always say just

1019
01:09:59,174 --> 01:10:06,314
money you don't you don't need you don't have to think about right right outside of that you know

1020
01:10:06,314 --> 01:10:13,054
hey it's up to you right it's your it's your your life but yeah you know you know throw a little

1021
01:10:13,054 --> 01:10:18,554
here a little there if you feel like you know doing that i personally enjoy it um i enjoy some

1022
01:10:18,554 --> 01:10:25,334
of the freedom that it brings about sure but at the same time you know look if the electricity stops

1023
01:10:25,334 --> 01:10:27,374
it's gone.

1024
01:10:27,894 --> 01:10:28,014
Yeah.

1025
01:10:29,374 --> 01:10:31,754
With electricity, you're going to stop the money in your bank account

1026
01:10:31,754 --> 01:10:32,694
up the street's gone too.

1027
01:10:33,214 --> 01:10:34,094
Oh, it is. Yep.

1028
01:10:34,834 --> 01:10:36,054
So one of the first things you do...

1029
01:10:36,054 --> 01:10:36,674
My life savings.

1030
01:10:37,274 --> 01:10:37,794
What's that?

1031
01:10:38,654 --> 01:10:40,314
I was going to say, we're going to take my life savings.

1032
01:10:40,374 --> 01:10:41,494
I'm going to buy Pokemon cards.

1033
01:10:44,794 --> 01:10:46,054
There's a market for that.

1034
01:10:46,234 --> 01:10:47,274
There's a market for that, yeah.

1035
01:10:47,574 --> 01:10:50,314
One of the first things I have clients do is make sure you've got

1036
01:10:50,314 --> 01:10:51,814
at least six months worth of cash.

1037
01:10:53,674 --> 01:10:54,954
I'm talking 20s.

1038
01:10:55,334 --> 01:11:03,054
at home at home somewhere somewhere yeah somewhere you can get to somewhere where you

1039
01:11:03,054 --> 01:11:12,974
and maybe one other human knows where it is yep yeah yeah because you know even in the the worst

1040
01:11:12,974 --> 01:11:20,954
case scenario at least for a period of time that will be fungible that's right now that could change

1041
01:11:20,954 --> 01:11:23,474
after a couple of months,

1042
01:11:23,574 --> 01:11:24,694
a few months or so,

1043
01:11:24,814 --> 01:11:26,814
but at least for a period of time,

1044
01:11:27,274 --> 01:11:30,754
you would have fungible assets.

1045
01:11:31,474 --> 01:11:32,814
And if we had a Venezuela-type

1046
01:11:32,814 --> 01:11:34,294
economic experience in the U.S.,

1047
01:11:34,294 --> 01:11:35,354
which I don't see happening,

1048
01:11:35,774 --> 01:11:37,094
because all the games they're going to play

1049
01:11:37,094 --> 01:11:37,774
with digital money,

1050
01:11:37,814 --> 01:11:39,894
I think would preclude that.

1051
01:11:40,054 --> 01:11:41,994
But that's also an argument

1052
01:11:41,994 --> 01:11:46,094
for pre-64 silver dimes as a barter,

1053
01:11:46,094 --> 01:11:48,054
as just plain barter.

1054
01:11:48,954 --> 01:11:50,554
Yeah, 90% silver.

1055
01:11:50,954 --> 01:11:58,514
yep and you can get that fairly cheap too depending you know i i i um i work with well

1056
01:11:58,514 --> 01:12:03,834
they're just friends of mine i don't i'm not employed by them but is a rare coins of new

1057
01:12:03,834 --> 01:12:09,674
hampshire they're the best they're just what a gem they are nobody even knows about them

1058
01:12:09,674 --> 01:12:18,534
rcnh.com rare coins of new hampshire really good solid people patriots fellow travelers they know

1059
01:12:18,534 --> 01:12:25,974
the deal. They know where the bodies are buried. They have a lot of very wealthy clients who like

1060
01:12:25,974 --> 01:12:30,994
to remain private. They'll come to them with a big check and say, I'm putting a portfolio together

1061
01:12:30,994 --> 01:12:35,994
for my daughter for her college graduation. Here's a million-dollar check.

1062
01:12:37,494 --> 01:12:42,434
And the folks at RareCoins will say, well, we can fill half of that within six months,

1063
01:12:42,494 --> 01:12:48,094
but the other half might take a couple of years. What? They'll go to the big coin shows in New York

1064
01:12:48,094 --> 01:12:56,714
can come back with nothing. Their standards are higher than that. Yeah, really, really

1065
01:12:56,714 --> 01:12:57,234
good people.

1066
01:12:57,954 --> 01:12:59,674
That's a good one. I'll have to keep that in mind.

1067
01:13:00,134 --> 01:13:05,074
Mention me only because you'll go to the top of their inbox because their phones are melting,

1068
01:13:05,334 --> 01:13:07,154
literally, as you can imagine right now.

1069
01:13:07,594 --> 01:13:08,014
Oh, yeah.

1070
01:13:08,214 --> 01:13:09,334
As people are waking up.

1071
01:13:10,814 --> 01:13:11,314
Some are.

1072
01:13:12,114 --> 01:13:16,194
Well, 5%, 3%. Again, human history.

1073
01:13:16,894 --> 01:13:17,094
Yep.

1074
01:13:18,094 --> 01:13:23,734
You know, hey, it only takes a few percent to make a huge difference.

1075
01:13:24,414 --> 01:13:25,334
Margaret Mead.

1076
01:13:25,854 --> 01:13:26,114
Yep.

1077
01:13:27,134 --> 01:13:28,174
You're too smart.

1078
01:13:28,274 --> 01:13:29,534
You're just too smart for your own good.

1079
01:13:29,734 --> 01:13:40,194
No, I just, I was one of those people that was bought into the system, raised by a Navy captain.

1080
01:13:40,194 --> 01:13:52,194
And, uh, you know, uh, this was something that it took me quite a, quite a good number of years to unlearn.

1081
01:13:52,994 --> 01:13:53,434
Right.

1082
01:13:53,554 --> 01:13:55,614
Uh, and several iterations, right.

1083
01:13:55,634 --> 01:14:01,154
I went from, you know, party affiliation to, well, this is no good.

1084
01:14:01,214 --> 01:14:08,534
This, you know, this is obviously the, this is wrong, uh, to, you know, uh, what was it at the time?

1085
01:14:08,534 --> 01:14:12,994
the tea party, right?

1086
01:14:13,454 --> 01:14:13,994
Oh, Lord, yeah.

1087
01:14:14,494 --> 01:14:17,274
To, wow, yeah, nope, not that either.

1088
01:14:17,574 --> 01:14:19,354
To constitutionalists.

1089
01:14:20,954 --> 01:14:22,354
Hmm, okay.

1090
01:14:23,014 --> 01:14:24,714
Nope, not that either.

1091
01:14:25,274 --> 01:14:28,734
To, you know, where do I go from here?

1092
01:14:29,114 --> 01:14:31,354
And eventually, yeah, exactly.

1093
01:14:31,494 --> 01:14:33,914
And eventually ended up where I am now,

1094
01:14:33,914 --> 01:14:42,194
which is, I don't support, condone, or give any credence to that system at all.

1095
01:14:42,774 --> 01:14:45,794
I just, I think it's a sham, right?

1096
01:14:46,494 --> 01:14:49,274
Yeah, it's like the old saying, you can't see the woods for the trees.

1097
01:14:50,074 --> 01:14:53,414
You know, people are standing with their nose to the bark in the middle of the woods.

1098
01:14:53,474 --> 01:14:55,774
Is this an elm? Is it an oak? Is it a pine? Is it a maple?

1099
01:14:55,934 --> 01:14:59,854
You got to go back to the nearest tall hill, big hill,

1100
01:14:59,854 --> 01:15:04,074
till you can see the woods and get your perspective.

1101
01:15:04,654 --> 01:15:07,114
Then you can go back in and have a conversation.

1102
01:15:08,254 --> 01:15:08,354
Yeah.

1103
01:15:08,874 --> 01:15:11,474
Otherwise, you just need a blinder sign,

1104
01:15:11,534 --> 01:15:12,814
like the horse with the blinder sign.

1105
01:15:13,434 --> 01:15:16,234
Yeah, and of course that led me down the road of, you know,

1106
01:15:16,714 --> 01:15:23,494
all of the, you know, standard and, you know, known folks, right?

1107
01:15:23,494 --> 01:15:26,934
You know, Rothbard and, you know, all of the, you know,

1108
01:15:26,934 --> 01:15:33,654
authors and historical figures that had figured this out, which led me a little bit further into

1109
01:15:33,654 --> 01:15:40,234
Lysander Spooner, which led me a little further into Friedrich Bastiat, uh, et cetera, et cetera.

1110
01:15:40,234 --> 01:15:47,054
And the more you go and start really looking into this, the more you realize that this number one

1111
01:15:47,054 --> 01:15:53,814
is not new. This, this has always been the game. It's always been the game. Uh, and number two,

1112
01:15:53,814 --> 01:16:03,214
you realize that you're brought into this and you are given lies through omission

1113
01:16:03,214 --> 01:16:10,974
that lead you to believe that this is a valid and correct system.

1114
01:16:11,674 --> 01:16:13,174
And it's the best thing ever.

1115
01:16:13,454 --> 01:16:15,034
And, oh my gosh, we're so free.

1116
01:16:15,734 --> 01:16:20,514
And, you know, it's funny, you know, I run across constitutionalists every once in a while

1117
01:16:20,514 --> 01:16:25,254
And I just ask him, well, you know, first off, which version, right?

1118
01:16:26,314 --> 01:16:27,854
You know, at which point.

1119
01:16:28,514 --> 01:16:36,134
But even if you go back to the original, you know, 10 amendments and the Bill of Rights and, you know, you go through the Constitution.

1120
01:16:36,714 --> 01:16:47,254
If you go back to that, name one of our rights that hasn't been thoroughly and totally and completely trampled on and bastardized at this point.

1121
01:16:47,294 --> 01:16:48,774
Totally. You can't.

1122
01:16:48,774 --> 01:16:49,474
Yeah. No.

1123
01:16:49,474 --> 01:17:17,894
What I like to say, Connecticut calls itself the Constitution State. That's what it says on the license plate, right? So you go to Connecticut with a bucket full of $1 bills and you stand in a shopping center. And everybody comes by and says, hey, if you can name any three of the 10 First Amendments of the Constitution, you have to quote them verbatim. Just give me the essence so you understand what they mean.

1124
01:17:17,894 --> 01:17:23,514
this is a free dollar and for you'll go home with a bucket full of dollar bills oh yeah that's the

1125
01:17:23,514 --> 01:17:29,254
condition that we have today and these people as i said earlier and they all vote they vote locally

1126
01:17:29,254 --> 01:17:34,654
they vote at the state level and they vote federally and there was there was actually some

1127
01:17:34,654 --> 01:17:41,314
you know if you look at the the framers right and you look at some of the things that they did

1128
01:17:41,314 --> 01:17:46,694
like number one like you had to be a property owner a land skin in the game skin in the game

1129
01:17:46,694 --> 01:17:51,314
you had to actually be a part of to actually vote.

1130
01:17:52,574 --> 01:17:56,094
There were some good ideas, right?

1131
01:17:56,674 --> 01:18:01,254
Just I tend to side more with the anti-federalists.

1132
01:18:01,514 --> 01:18:03,274
This is going to go bad.

1133
01:18:03,474 --> 01:18:04,394
It always does.

1134
01:18:04,474 --> 01:18:05,174
It always has.

1135
01:18:05,394 --> 01:18:08,154
Historically, there's never, ever been an occasion

1136
01:18:08,154 --> 01:18:12,734
where giving power to a federal type of entity

1137
01:18:12,734 --> 01:18:15,534
didn't end up exactly where we are today.

1138
01:18:15,534 --> 01:18:21,294
so you know my statement to them is what exactly makes you think going back to that would make it

1139
01:18:21,294 --> 01:18:26,174
any different what did we get like you know a 50-year reprieve before it starts getting bad

1140
01:18:26,174 --> 01:18:34,094
again i mean you know it's it and it's a hard one to take for a lot of people well reality i know

1141
01:18:34,094 --> 01:18:38,974
where you're thinking havoc you're thinking if we if we could fix this we just had more government

1142
01:18:38,974 --> 01:18:42,994
right? Oh gosh, yes. That was exactly where I was

1143
01:18:42,994 --> 01:18:46,674
going with this. I'm sure that's where you were going with that. More oversight, more

1144
01:18:46,674 --> 01:18:50,834
bureaucracies, more committees, more

1145
01:18:50,834 --> 01:18:55,254
hearings. Let's do it. When I homeschooled the kids, we read the

1146
01:18:55,254 --> 01:18:57,614
Federalist Papers and we read the Anti-Federalist Papers.

1147
01:18:59,674 --> 01:19:01,074
Understand both sides of the

1148
01:19:01,074 --> 01:19:05,734
argument. And I bet your kids can even tell time

1149
01:19:05,734 --> 01:19:07,674
on a clock with hands.

1150
01:19:07,694 --> 01:19:08,174
They can.

1151
01:19:08,314 --> 01:19:09,814
Unlike most of the kids

1152
01:19:09,814 --> 01:19:11,754
They can even do basic math

1153
01:19:11,754 --> 01:19:12,454
on a calculator.

1154
01:19:12,634 --> 01:19:13,174
It's unbelievable.

1155
01:19:13,954 --> 01:19:15,054
They can probably read cursive.

1156
01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:17,814
Yeah, you're absolutely right.

1157
01:19:18,574 --> 01:19:20,314
They can even write their name in cursive.

1158
01:19:21,474 --> 01:19:22,854
Just don't do it in front of your friends.

1159
01:19:22,934 --> 01:19:23,674
They'll think it's like

1160
01:19:23,674 --> 01:19:24,974
black magic or something.

1161
01:19:25,174 --> 01:19:26,994
Like, what is that?

1162
01:19:27,054 --> 01:19:28,134
You're like invoking the devil?

1163
01:19:28,274 --> 01:19:29,234
No, it's just my name.

1164
01:19:29,694 --> 01:19:30,674
Is that Arabic?

1165
01:19:34,174 --> 01:19:35,014
Yeah, well.

1166
01:19:35,014 --> 01:19:35,554
Oh, man.

1167
01:19:35,734 --> 01:19:40,614
So where do we go from here? Now that we've solved all the world's problems, what do we talk about next?

1168
01:19:41,114 --> 01:19:47,654
Well, I don't know that we've solved them, but we surely have identified some of the key areas of concern.

1169
01:19:48,814 --> 01:20:03,334
Yeah, you know, I think, honestly, I could probably talk about this stuff for hours, right? Without question. Not probably. I absolutely could. It's very near and dear to my heart.

1170
01:20:03,334 --> 01:20:13,074
But that being said, in the interest of time, et cetera, you know, let's go ahead and start wrapping things up a little bit.

1171
01:20:13,654 --> 01:20:21,894
And one of the questions we always like to ask our guests is, you know, we appreciate you very much for giving us your time, right?

1172
01:20:22,134 --> 01:20:26,834
And of course, audience, we very much appreciate you for giving us some of your time.

1173
01:20:28,594 --> 01:20:32,154
Throughout our lives, we are impacted by an individual.

1174
01:20:32,154 --> 01:20:37,654
It could be an author, a sixth grade science teacher, historical figure, it could be mom.

1175
01:20:38,214 --> 01:20:43,314
But we like to give our guests an opportunity to shout out that person that was influential to them.

1176
01:20:44,634 --> 01:20:48,834
Well, you blew my big announcement earlier.

1177
01:20:49,814 --> 01:20:50,674
Oh, no.

1178
01:20:50,874 --> 01:20:55,994
Because I told you before we started recording, it's Lysander Spooner.

1179
01:20:57,674 --> 01:20:58,394
Lysander Spooner.

1180
01:20:58,394 --> 01:21:05,914
Well, I would say that David Henry Thoreau is right up there at the same altitude.

1181
01:21:07,454 --> 01:21:12,354
But as far as shifting, and in Bastiat and Hazlitt, there's a bunch of them.

1182
01:21:13,094 --> 01:21:17,974
I've read about 5,000 books since I was 30 years old.

1183
01:21:19,334 --> 01:21:21,414
And yeah, here we go again.

1184
01:21:23,174 --> 01:21:24,034
I can't tell.

1185
01:21:24,174 --> 01:21:26,054
It's so high-pitched, you can't tell where it's coming from.

1186
01:21:26,054 --> 01:21:33,034
But there's probably about 20 or 30 of those books that are at the very top of the reading pile.

1187
01:21:34,154 --> 01:21:43,174
And certainly the ones, you know, Constitution of No Treason, The Constitution of No Authority is right up there.

1188
01:21:44,494 --> 01:21:49,814
But yeah, reading Spooner just took the top of my head off.

1189
01:21:50,694 --> 01:21:55,474
I realized that one person, a friend of mine, took it to a really took an extreme.

1190
01:21:55,474 --> 01:21:56,854
He said, are you even an American?

1191
01:21:58,474 --> 01:21:59,034
I said, okay.

1192
01:21:59,474 --> 01:22:03,934
You were born on this landmass through no effort of your own.

1193
01:22:05,154 --> 01:22:13,454
They now claim you as a taxpayer on their farm, on their territory.

1194
01:22:13,914 --> 01:22:15,934
You can't come and go without paperwork.

1195
01:22:16,594 --> 01:22:17,874
You don't do what they say.

1196
01:22:17,934 --> 01:22:18,934
They can imprison you.

1197
01:22:18,934 --> 01:22:27,214
and aren't you really just a human living on this little mostly water blue beautiful

1198
01:22:27,214 --> 01:22:34,994
ball of water going around the sun and and as i taught my kids why are we here the only reason

1199
01:22:34,994 --> 01:22:41,494
you're here is to help each other period the i don't care if you're tall short fat ugly black

1200
01:22:41,494 --> 01:22:45,734
white purple i don't quite care less what you believe in or don't believe in pick a religion

1201
01:22:45,734 --> 01:22:54,394
have fun. I don't care. You're here to help other people. That's it. And government does not act in

1202
01:22:54,394 --> 01:23:00,454
that interest. It's here to help itself. Government is a multi-celled organism, which understandably,

1203
01:23:00,554 --> 01:23:06,554
like all organisms, seeks to survive and to preserve itself at all causes. And that's what

1204
01:23:06,554 --> 01:23:13,474
it will do, as one writer put, when the effluvium hits the rotary airfoil. Because I'm being very

1205
01:23:13,474 --> 01:23:19,474
polite. Okay. That's what it will do, and the heck with the rest of us.

1206
01:23:19,992 --> 01:23:21,712
We're out there to fend for ourselves.

1207
01:23:21,792 --> 01:23:42,432
And it gets back to agorism, anarchy in its truest understanding, taking care of ourselves and empowering ourselves within our heart, our soul, our spirit, our core, and then expanding that to the ones we love and care about in our immediate tribe, if you want to call it that.

1208
01:23:44,052 --> 01:23:48,272
But, yeah, I hope that answers your question.

1209
01:23:49,152 --> 01:23:49,672
Absolutely.

1210
01:23:49,992 --> 01:24:01,032
Absolutely. All right. So you've written a book. Where can people find you? Where can they tune in? What have you got going on? What are you working on next?

1211
01:24:01,032 --> 01:24:26,592
Well, thank you. The book is called The Risky Reader. The subtitle is Essays on Fallen Freedoms, Cultural Collapse, and the New America. And you can go to theriskyreader.com. There it is. You can buy it on Amazon. You can read a few chapters for free. There's some embarrassingly nice reviews I've already gotten that I posted on there.

1212
01:24:26,592 --> 01:24:28,832
and forgive the cover.

1213
01:24:28,952 --> 01:24:31,712
It looks like it was designed by a fifth grader,

1214
01:24:31,772 --> 01:24:32,392
which is me.

1215
01:24:33,192 --> 01:24:34,552
I'm not a graphic artist.

1216
01:24:34,652 --> 01:24:37,052
I'm having somebody professionally work on a new cover,

1217
01:24:37,852 --> 01:24:40,392
but it's a compilation of essays I wrote

1218
01:24:40,392 --> 01:24:41,392
over a 30-year period.

1219
01:24:42,712 --> 01:24:43,732
And I think you'll,

1220
01:24:44,272 --> 01:24:46,412
I'll be happy to send a PDF to you, gentlemen,

1221
01:24:46,412 --> 01:24:47,832
if you want to share your email addresses.

1222
01:24:48,612 --> 01:24:49,012
Absolutely.

1223
01:24:49,332 --> 01:24:50,152
I would love that.

1224
01:24:50,532 --> 01:24:51,632
Yeah, I'd love to send it to you.

1225
01:24:51,632 --> 01:25:01,912
Yeah, I did actually go and read the, it said four chapters, and I'm not certain those are full chapters, but snippets of the chapters.

1226
01:25:02,712 --> 01:25:04,652
And yeah, I would be very interested.

1227
01:25:05,132 --> 01:25:06,512
I would love to do that.

1228
01:25:07,172 --> 01:25:10,932
And as far as the work that I do, I'm kind of semi-retired.

1229
01:25:11,052 --> 01:25:14,552
You notice I didn't say retarded, I said semi-retired.

1230
01:25:15,432 --> 01:25:23,352
And so the consulting that I do, not as much as I used to, is a family financial risk management.

1231
01:25:24,072 --> 01:25:40,868
And you can go to GordonPhillips like me GordonPhillips Two O in Gordon two L in Phillips Click away You see the services that I offer what I do I more than happy to book a complimentary Zoom with anybody

1232
01:25:42,068 --> 01:25:45,168
No sales, no pressure, just like talking like we are right now.

1233
01:25:45,208 --> 01:25:46,288
It's a friendly conversation.

1234
01:25:47,128 --> 01:25:47,708
Who are you?

1235
01:25:47,748 --> 01:25:48,548
Where are you in life?

1236
01:25:49,248 --> 01:25:51,688
What are your concerns, issues, problems, challenges?

1237
01:25:52,828 --> 01:25:53,688
Can I help?

1238
01:25:53,828 --> 01:25:54,848
Let's talk about that.

1239
01:25:55,648 --> 01:25:57,188
And then we'll see if we take the next step.

1240
01:25:57,188 --> 01:25:59,208
If not, we're still friends.

1241
01:26:00,768 --> 01:26:02,688
And that's a good way to get you.

1242
01:26:02,688 --> 01:26:05,248
You can go to schedulewithgordon.com.

1243
01:26:06,068 --> 01:26:09,048
It takes you right to my Google calendar.

1244
01:26:10,488 --> 01:26:12,688
And if any of those times don't work for you,

1245
01:26:12,768 --> 01:26:16,028
then get in touch with me at the contact page on the website

1246
01:26:16,028 --> 01:26:17,508
and we'll figure out something it does.

1247
01:26:18,968 --> 01:26:21,108
And that's what I do.

1248
01:26:22,328 --> 01:26:22,728
Wonderful.

1249
01:26:23,468 --> 01:26:26,508
So, theriskyreader.com?

1250
01:26:26,508 --> 01:26:27,748
TheRiskyReader.com.

1251
01:26:27,988 --> 01:26:30,588
And GordonPhillips.me.

1252
01:26:31,028 --> 01:26:31,448
Yes, sir.

1253
01:26:31,548 --> 01:26:32,488
GordonPhillips.me.

1254
01:26:33,048 --> 01:26:33,588
Yeah, dot me.

1255
01:26:33,648 --> 01:26:34,148
That's me.

1256
01:26:34,488 --> 01:26:35,248
Go check him out.

1257
01:26:35,348 --> 01:26:35,928
Book a session.

1258
01:26:36,468 --> 01:26:37,148
Talk to him.

1259
01:26:37,388 --> 01:26:37,628
Yeah.

1260
01:26:38,988 --> 01:26:44,068
You have absolutely, I will endorse you.

1261
01:26:45,928 --> 01:26:46,888
God bless you.

1262
01:26:47,288 --> 01:26:48,788
Just on this conversation.

1263
01:26:49,468 --> 01:26:50,028
Well, thank you.

1264
01:26:50,228 --> 01:26:50,928
I'm glad we met.

1265
01:26:50,988 --> 01:26:52,308
We're obviously fellow travelers.

1266
01:26:52,808 --> 01:26:53,328
Absolutely.

1267
01:26:53,328 --> 01:26:56,328
And this is the darndest thing, because I've never done podcasts.

1268
01:26:56,508 --> 01:27:00,088
before. 30 years ago, I did a ton of radio as a guest.

1269
01:27:00,568 --> 01:27:04,628
Oh, really? Yeah, flying around the country, guesting on talk radio

1270
01:27:04,628 --> 01:27:07,448
prior to the internet. Yeah.

1271
01:27:08,408 --> 01:27:12,588
But I decided to sign up with a podcast service to

1272
01:27:12,588 --> 01:27:15,408
promote the book, to get the book out there. Absolutely.

1273
01:27:16,688 --> 01:27:20,628
I've met... You guys are great. You really are. I'm not just trying to

1274
01:27:20,628 --> 01:27:24,648
falsely flatter you. You guys are really great. I've had a very, very

1275
01:27:24,648 --> 01:27:26,848
varied experience with hosts.

1276
01:27:28,448 --> 01:27:29,648
Some have been really great.

1277
01:27:29,748 --> 01:27:30,848
Some have been interesting.

1278
01:27:31,348 --> 01:27:32,208
Let's put it that way.

1279
01:27:32,868 --> 01:27:34,548
But we're obviously fellow travelers.

1280
01:27:34,788 --> 01:27:37,908
And the takeaway is we're all connected

1281
01:27:37,908 --> 01:27:39,228
and we're all here to help each other.

1282
01:27:40,188 --> 01:27:40,668
Absolutely.

1283
01:27:40,728 --> 01:27:53,084
And it so important to create a network Your network can be physical local but it can also be dispersed and remote virtual so to speak

1284
01:27:54,764 --> 01:27:57,024
But we all need each other.

1285
01:27:57,184 --> 01:27:57,944
We all need each other.

1286
01:27:58,464 --> 01:27:59,064
Absolutely.

1287
01:27:59,424 --> 01:28:07,764
Developing that tribe and keeping those people around you, like-minded individuals, is of critical importance in my eyes.

1288
01:28:08,204 --> 01:28:08,764
I agree.

1289
01:28:09,784 --> 01:28:10,164
I agree.

1290
01:28:10,744 --> 01:28:11,164
Awesome.

1291
01:28:11,164 --> 01:28:13,084
Alex, anything to wrap up with?

1292
01:28:15,544 --> 01:28:16,704
I get the rest of the night.

1293
01:28:16,764 --> 01:28:17,804
I don't know where you guys are going.

1294
01:28:18,384 --> 01:28:19,744
I'm probably going to make dinner.

1295
01:28:20,684 --> 01:28:21,424
There you go.

1296
01:28:21,724 --> 01:28:24,044
Probably go outside and shoot it and then make dinner, right?

1297
01:28:24,664 --> 01:28:25,424
Well, you know.

1298
01:28:25,864 --> 01:28:26,464
Possibly, yeah.

1299
01:28:26,624 --> 01:28:26,964
Yeah.

1300
01:28:27,884 --> 01:28:31,464
We've got plenty of stuff in freezer camp, so.

1301
01:28:31,624 --> 01:28:32,264
I believe it.

1302
01:28:32,264 --> 01:28:33,444
We'll probably use that.

1303
01:28:33,524 --> 01:28:35,724
And plenty of solar panels to back it up, right?

1304
01:28:35,864 --> 01:28:35,984
Yeah.

1305
01:28:36,444 --> 01:28:41,144
Well, no solar panels yet, but that's on task for us.

1306
01:28:41,164 --> 01:28:42,764
hopefully this year.

1307
01:28:43,884 --> 01:28:44,924
Good for you.

1308
01:28:45,404 --> 01:28:48,244
But we're off almost every other, well, not almost.

1309
01:28:48,344 --> 01:28:51,704
We're off every other service, with the exception of the internet.

1310
01:28:52,784 --> 01:28:53,864
Well, Havoc, it's been a pleasure.

1311
01:28:54,024 --> 01:28:55,384
I don't know how to pronounce LX.

1312
01:28:55,464 --> 01:28:55,984
Is it LX?

1313
01:28:56,804 --> 01:28:57,864
Just LX.

1314
01:28:57,864 --> 01:28:59,644
LX, okay, I like that.

1315
01:29:00,084 --> 01:29:04,744
It's kind of like when Prince became the artist represented by the Ankh symbol.

1316
01:29:05,004 --> 01:29:07,064
You could go there.

1317
01:29:07,064 --> 01:29:08,104
you know

1318
01:29:08,104 --> 01:29:11,324
formerly known as LX

1319
01:29:11,324 --> 01:29:13,744
formerly known as LX

1320
01:29:13,744 --> 01:29:15,504
the anarchist

1321
01:29:15,504 --> 01:29:17,324
formerly known as LX

1322
01:29:17,324 --> 01:29:17,944
absolutely

1323
01:29:17,944 --> 01:29:21,004
I'm sorry what an insult

1324
01:29:21,004 --> 01:29:22,164
I didn't mean to imply that

1325
01:29:22,164 --> 01:29:24,304
that's me I'm an anarchist

1326
01:29:24,304 --> 01:29:27,304
unashamed I am 100%

1327
01:29:27,304 --> 01:29:29,224
I fall into the

1328
01:29:29,224 --> 01:29:31,164
individualist category of

1329
01:29:31,164 --> 01:29:31,844
said

1330
01:29:31,844 --> 01:29:34,344
beliefs

1331
01:29:34,344 --> 01:29:35,924
ideology

1332
01:29:35,924 --> 01:29:37,924
The available buffet of belief systems.

1333
01:29:37,924 --> 01:29:38,924
Yeah, absolutely.

1334
01:29:38,924 --> 01:29:40,424
Yeah, a little visible of that.

1335
01:29:40,424 --> 01:29:41,424
Yeah.

1336
01:29:41,424 --> 01:29:47,744
Yeah. Well, Gordon, Mr. Phillips, it's been wonderful having you on the show. It really

1337
01:29:47,744 --> 01:30:08,100
has I would absolutely love to have you back at a later date I think we have topics that we could go on for days about I agree I love to Thank you It been an honor I mean that sincerely I had a blast This has been a really fun hour and a half It refreshing It

1338
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:12,800
like, it's like validating, like, thank you, Jesus. There are other people out there who think

1339
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:20,860
the way I do. You're not alone, Gordon. You know, like, uh, yeah, that was, that was actually a huge

1340
01:30:20,860 --> 01:30:27,860
thing for me was finding people that, because for a while there, I kind of felt like I'm all alone

1341
01:30:27,860 --> 01:30:34,640
here. Nobody thinks like this. And then it's finding people and you find more and it's refreshing.

1342
01:30:35,060 --> 01:30:39,780
It is. I'd love to do this again. Let's share email addresses. You know how to get in touch

1343
01:30:39,780 --> 01:30:44,820
with me through the podcast platform, right? Yes, sir. So give me your email address. I'll write to

1344
01:30:44,820 --> 01:30:51,240
you. I'll send you guys a copy of the book and we can stay in touch. I'd love to do this again.

1345
01:30:51,300 --> 01:30:56,240
It would be my pleasure. Wonderful. Wonderful. All right. Well, thank you very much for giving

1346
01:30:56,240 --> 01:31:01,800
us some of your time. We really appreciate it. And thank you for giving us some of your time as well.

1347
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:06,900
If you find value in our work, let us know. Support us. Give us a thumbs up. Give us a thumbs down.

1348
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:11,780
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1349
01:31:11,780 --> 01:31:20,380
hey that's a nice thing you can find us pretty much everywhere right we are hosted now off

1350
01:31:20,380 --> 01:31:26,100
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1351
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:33,620
to to contribute to our work uh and if not you can just go there and listen we're also on spotify

1352
01:31:33,620 --> 01:31:41,100
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1353
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:48,920
And remember, wherever you are, whenever you're watching this, have an amazing day.

1354
01:31:50,380 --> 01:31:51,240
Right.

1355
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,100
.