Jan. 24, 2023

Make Your Vision To Help Others A Reality With Wes Robins

Make Your Vision To Help Others A Reality With Wes Robins

Episode Summary:

Are you a therapist with a special vision to help others? Are you unsure if you can make your vision a reality? In this episode, Weston “Wes” Robins, the leader of Eternal Strength, discusses how a vision led to a movement helping youth in a radical way.


Weston Robins, is a Licensed Professional Counselor and a visionary leader in the realm of Radical Youth Work. Wes has been an advocate both in practice and in academia for a truly humanistic and person-centered approach since he has been in the field-- serving youth across levels of care from emergency stabilization to finding their own purpose and spiritual path.

 

Wes has spent more than a decade dreaming of a place where youth and clinicians can experience mutual liberation and come into greater mental freedom together, a center where the binds of standardized sociological pressures are cut away and every youth’s inner wisdom can rise up as a non dimmable beacon of light and joy.

 

Wes serves the team at Eternal Strength with the same value system as he does the families that come to the center, building sacred space, bolstering each individual’s divine strengths, and creating space for synchronicity and enlightenment.


Contact Information:

https://eternaladmin.wixsite.com/my-site/wes-robins-founder-president

 

 

About the Host:

Dr. Arcella is a Licensed Psychologist, Licensed Professional Counselor, Consultant, and Master Teacher. She is an expert in Behavior Modification, Learning, Research, Supervision, and Training. During her tenure at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine/Kennedy Krieger Institute, Dr. Arcella specialized in parent training and marriage and family therapy.

 

She is the President of Peak Development Group, Inc where she and her team provide consultation and training services. She is also the Host of the Six Figure Therapist podcast. Dr. Arcella’s mission is to train the next generation of mental health providers through skills trainings, retreats, and community building.

 

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Transcript
1 00:00:12,990 --> 00:00:14,880 Dr. Arcella Trimble: All right, welcome. I'm Dr. Arcella 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,490 Trimble. And I want to thank you for coming to another episode of 3 00:00:20,490 --> 00:00:25,740 six figure therapist, I am so excited today. I have we come on 4 00:00:25,740 --> 00:00:31,410 with. We have Wes on here, and he is a practitioner in the 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,910 Georgia area, and will tell you all about his bio stuff. But I'm 6 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:38,520 gonna get him to tell you a little bit about himself. But 7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,990 I'm so excited, I met him, oh, gosh, it hasn't been spin. That 8 00:00:42,990 --> 00:00:46,410 hasn't been a year even maybe I don't know. It's like about a 9 00:00:46,410 --> 00:00:51,240 year ago or so. And one of our trainees and I had heard about 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,790 him prior to the training, though, from Eric, that works 11 00:00:53,790 --> 00:00:56,640 with us. And he told me about the wonderful work that he's 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,390 doing. And I thought that he would be a perfect example of 13 00:01:00,390 --> 00:01:06,510 someone that has doing something to help in a bigger way and in a 14 00:01:06,510 --> 00:01:09,570 non traditional way. And so I thought he would be somebody 15 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:14,370 great to talk to. So first, I just want you to just kind of 16 00:01:14,370 --> 00:01:17,220 briefly introduce yourself to everyone. 17 00:01:17,810 --> 00:01:21,021 Weston Robins: Dr. Trimble, I want to start and I want to say 18 00:01:21,091 --> 00:01:24,931 I'm always, anytime I get a platform to speak, I'm very 19 00:01:25,001 --> 00:01:28,841 humbled. But I'm very grateful to be on your podcast in 20 00:01:28,911 --> 00:01:33,100 particular. And the same goes everything you just gave intro 21 00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:37,638 for me. I had heard about you in the field and the work that you 22 00:01:37,708 --> 00:01:42,176 had done, Eric spoke very highly of that. And then you were able 23 00:01:42,246 --> 00:01:46,226 to provide a very extensive training on the certification 24 00:01:46,295 --> 00:01:50,694 for being a clinical supervisor, to other clinicians in pursuit 25 00:01:50,764 --> 00:01:54,953 of licensure. So I'm grateful to be here with you today. I'm 26 00:01:55,023 --> 00:01:59,282 excited as well. I love being on your podcast. And yes, quick 27 00:01:59,351 --> 00:02:03,052 intro. So I'm a licensed professional counselor. I am 28 00:02:03,122 --> 00:02:07,171 completing my PhD from the University of West Georgia. And 29 00:02:07,241 --> 00:02:11,290 that's been in the works for quite some time, but I should 30 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,759 graduate this year and complete that and that's a great program 31 00:02:15,828 --> 00:02:19,878 psychology. But emphasis in consciousness and society with 32 00:02:19,948 --> 00:02:23,648 three different tracks, humanistic transpersonal, and 33 00:02:23,718 --> 00:02:27,767 critical psychologies. Very growth oriented and expansive. 34 00:02:27,837 --> 00:02:31,747 And yeah, I'm just grateful to be here. And can I have a 35 00:02:31,817 --> 00:02:36,006 tendency to be very long winded? Okay. My summary skills are 36 00:02:36,076 --> 00:02:40,404 awful. So I unless you want me to start with where I was born, 37 00:02:40,474 --> 00:02:42,290 you better go politically. 38 00:02:42,860 --> 00:02:44,990 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Everything I got you, I got you. I got some 39 00:02:44,990 --> 00:02:48,770 questions. Okay. Now, first, one of the things that, you know, we 40 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:51,470 talked about is being as professional, you're gifted, 41 00:02:51,530 --> 00:02:54,680 like I always look at what we do as a gift. So I always want to 42 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,620 know from everybody, do you first believe that it's a gift 43 00:02:57,620 --> 00:03:01,190 when you do and helping people? And if so, when did you first 44 00:03:01,190 --> 00:03:04,370 start to realize, oh, I want to help people for a living? 45 00:03:04,730 --> 00:03:07,940 Weston Robins: Absolutely. Yeah, I think so. My my personal 46 00:03:07,940 --> 00:03:13,400 belief system is that every human soul has a unique gift or 47 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,260 talent, or ability. And I think our journey on this earth is to 48 00:03:18,260 --> 00:03:22,430 kind of learn about yourself, find what you align with and 49 00:03:22,430 --> 00:03:25,670 what makes your heart sing and feed your soul and devote your 50 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:29,750 life to that. And so I'm fortunate my Mom has her 51 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:33,680 master's in behavioral analysis from Drake University. My 52 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,600 grandmother, her mom, who I call Nana has her Edd and psychology 53 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,150 was the it taught at Charleston Southern University for quite 54 00:03:44,150 --> 00:03:48,620 some time in psychology. And so I come from this lineage of 55 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:54,050 strong women on on this maternal side, that were social workers, 56 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:01,970 and psychologist, and even going back further, my Nana's mom. Her 57 00:04:01,970 --> 00:04:06,500 mom came from so my great great grandmother came from Naples, 58 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:13,070 Italy. And from what I can tell she was a nurse in the earliest 59 00:04:13,070 --> 00:04:16,670 days and did social work before it was even a field and kind of 60 00:04:16,670 --> 00:04:19,700 become but with a helping practitioner, a healing 61 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:23,000 community member, somebody that was devoted to helping others. 62 00:04:23,450 --> 00:04:28,100 And so I think that's in my bloodline. And as a young boy 63 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:32,960 growing up, I was fascinated and got that fascination, that 64 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,260 curiosity about the human condition and human behavior 65 00:04:36,620 --> 00:04:40,430 from my mom from my grandmother. And so there's it was this 66 00:04:40,430 --> 00:04:44,000 beautiful expanse of space. I think for a while I was 67 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,250 rebellious and kind of fought against it. So 17 to 20 was 68 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:52,130 like, Nah, I'm not going to do psychology. I'm not even gonna 69 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:54,290 go that route. I'm gonna do something different music was 70 00:04:54,290 --> 00:04:58,340 always my love and my passion, but then it just pulled me back 71 00:04:58,340 --> 00:05:01,880 to it. So when I was in college, College. I did my bachelor's at 72 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,570 Georgia State, my master's in community counseling at Argosy. 73 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:08,540 Started the Ph. D. Program at the University of West Georgia. 74 00:05:08,540 --> 00:05:12,110 And I'm still just it's it feeds my soul in every way, shape or 75 00:05:12,110 --> 00:05:19,460 form, whether it be academic study and theory, or practice 76 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:26,360 and direct clinical work. And I feel I wouldn't say that I feel 77 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,790 like I'm a healer. I feel like I've learned how to hold sacred 78 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:36,560 space for others, to see themselves in ways that maybe 79 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,160 they couldn't without that space. And I feel like this is a 80 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,150 gift, this practice and every time I sit with a client sit 81 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:47,990 with a family, it's an honor and a privilege to be able to walk 82 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:51,500 beside them on their journeys, they do depth work and work on 83 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:52,310 their own healing. 84 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, see, and the one thing I love about 85 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,550 this is, you know, some of these answers, I don't even know until 86 00:05:58,550 --> 00:06:01,070 I hear you all say them. So just to think that you came from a 87 00:06:01,070 --> 00:06:04,310 long line of like you said, helpers, and healers, and to 88 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:07,340 carry that on and to carry it on and even a different level. 89 00:06:07,340 --> 00:06:09,830 Like, it sounds like your great great grandmother carried it on 90 00:06:10,340 --> 00:06:13,310 a different level than your mother, your grandma. And now 91 00:06:13,310 --> 00:06:16,490 you're doing it at another level. So that is just, that's 92 00:06:16,490 --> 00:06:20,390 just awesome to see. And witness. Yeah, that's thank you 93 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:25,910 for sharing. All right. So then when you started, so you're in 94 00:06:25,910 --> 00:06:29,810 the profession. Now, initially, when you started working, did 95 00:06:29,810 --> 00:06:33,200 you where did you start working at? Like, what, like, where did 96 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,550 you work at first? 97 00:06:34,670 --> 00:06:39,800 Weston Robins: Yeah, so I was, gosh, man, rewind. I think I was 98 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:45,050 25. And I was making eight bucks an hour working at a CV shop. I 99 00:06:45,050 --> 00:06:47,480 loved music. I worked at all these different music stores, I 100 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,460 worked at Peachtree battle at a shop called spin street music 101 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:55,700 when I was younger, I worked at Camelot music. But then fast 102 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:57,950 forward and I was at a CD warehouse. I was the manager. I 103 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:00,230 was making eight bucks an hour I was 25 years old. And I was 104 00:07:00,230 --> 00:07:05,090 like, What am I going to do? I just finished my bachelor's in 105 00:07:05,090 --> 00:07:08,900 Psych. Meet me at that time music was starting to get 106 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:12,740 downloaded CD shops were closing, I was like, Oh, I got 107 00:07:12,740 --> 00:07:16,070 to pick a profession and really kind of pour my energy. So I was 108 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:19,850 either gonna go to law school, or because a lot of my buddies 109 00:07:19,850 --> 00:07:21,500 were going there. And I was like, maybe I'll start studying 110 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:24,860 for the LSAT and do that. And then I had this epiphany. I was 111 00:07:24,860 --> 00:07:27,860 like, you know, I think I'd like studying that. I don't know if I 112 00:07:27,860 --> 00:07:33,380 like to practice that. And so I went to an orientation for a 113 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:36,290 Master's in Counseling, and they gave me a book by John Kotler 114 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:40,040 called on being a therapist. And they said, Read this. And if 115 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,250 you're still intrigued, this is the program for you. And I read 116 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:46,580 it in two days. And I was like, Man, this is it. It's been my 117 00:07:46,580 --> 00:07:49,580 calling. So I, I did my Master's in Counseling and right at the 118 00:07:49,580 --> 00:07:52,160 tail end as I was doing my internship at peach furred 119 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,340 hospital, working with their intensive outpatient program 120 00:07:55,340 --> 00:07:59,960 next step with young adolescents that I loved and was amazing. 121 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,840 But the hospital psychiatric setting was challenging for 122 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:09,590 numerous reasons. I found a program called vive vive Family 123 00:08:09,590 --> 00:08:12,470 Support Program, and they had an Atlanta location. And they 124 00:08:12,470 --> 00:08:15,260 worked with young adolescents coming out of wilderness 125 00:08:15,260 --> 00:08:20,870 therapy, residential treatment centers, therapeutic boarding 126 00:08:20,870 --> 00:08:24,200 schools, and they were transitioning back home. Now it 127 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,650 was satellite work. So there was no brick and mortar office, you 128 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:33,170 got to come pick up the young person and go do adventurous 129 00:08:33,470 --> 00:08:38,210 experiential therapy. So that was my first gig. And I got to 130 00:08:38,210 --> 00:08:41,630 go mountain biking, hiking, rock climbing, I went out to eat more 131 00:08:41,630 --> 00:08:45,260 times than I could name I went bowling, I went to movies, but 132 00:08:45,290 --> 00:08:50,570 anything to build rapport and trust and create a sacred space 133 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:55,370 for these young people as young as 10, as old as 25. And that's 134 00:08:55,370 --> 00:08:59,960 what I did for six years, became a therapeutic mentor, became a 135 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:03,680 parent coach started to work with the family systems, and 136 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:07,580 then worked my way up to become the clinical team leader for all 137 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:13,130 of the Atlanta region, and hired and built a team for Atlanta. 138 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:21,920 And then in 2014, got accepted into the Ph. D. program. And Dr. 139 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,790 Tremble, I thought I could do both. I was like, I was like, 140 00:09:25,790 --> 00:09:30,710 I'm making 65k. You're, it's awesome. It's stable, clinical 141 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:35,510 team lead. Less than but I'm about to start the PhD. Let me 142 00:09:35,510 --> 00:09:39,230 just do both. And my clinical director even at the time we 143 00:09:39,230 --> 00:09:43,580 left, she was like, okay, you know, go for it. That first 144 00:09:43,580 --> 00:09:46,640 Thanksgiving to that first semester. I was in my own 145 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,990 therapy. I went down I had a therapy session with a beautiful 146 00:09:50,990 --> 00:09:56,120 psychologist who did a profound work with and I just came to a 147 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,630 realization there's no way I can't, something's gotta go 148 00:09:59,630 --> 00:10:04,280 Okay, so I had this moment where I was like, I have to finish 149 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:11,450 this PhD. I, I had two little daughters at the time, actually 150 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:14,780 one little daughter and another on the way. And I was like, you 151 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:17,150 know, being a father and being a husband, that's my number one 152 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:20,600 that's not going anywhere at the PhD and go anywhere. I think I 153 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,440 have to quit this gig that I love. And I'm going to go into 154 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,250 private practice. So I went into private practice made the leap 155 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:30,830 called my clinical supervisor, Willow, I cried, I was like, 156 00:10:30,830 --> 00:10:33,650 Well, I'm so sorry. I love you guys. I gotta go do this. She 157 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:37,220 was super supportive. And in my first year, in private practice 158 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:41,150 working two days a week, I double my salary. Wow. And 159 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:44,240 Dr. Arcella Trimble: I'll be honest, because you got a lot of 160 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,310 years. So let me Okay, so and I really want people to hear this. 161 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,100 Because this is one of the things that you know, we talk 162 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:55,490 about taking risk and chances and, and like you said, you 163 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:57,860 could have kept going the way you were going, but you would 164 00:10:57,860 --> 00:11:00,800 have been burned out you you saw it didn't even take that long to 165 00:11:00,830 --> 00:11:03,230 figure out. Okay, I can't juggle all this. And of course, I'm 166 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:07,460 sure you had some fear of like you said, I'm a new dad, and you 167 00:11:07,460 --> 00:11:09,800 know, and it's like, Okay, I gotta take care of these people. 168 00:11:09,950 --> 00:11:13,010 But now, I guess what I'm wondering is how did you go from 169 00:11:13,010 --> 00:11:15,920 cuz, as a person who has private practice? Of course, we know, 170 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,640 that's a lot of work, too. So how did you go from deciding not 171 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,150 to work for someone to go into work for yourself that you 172 00:11:23,150 --> 00:11:25,040 thought that that would make a difference? Like? 173 00:11:25,220 --> 00:11:28,550 Weston Robins: Yeah, absolutely. And there was several variables, 174 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:35,750 but I think the main answer is I had mentors, guides. And these 175 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:40,490 were my supervisors that were outside of the organization that 176 00:11:40,490 --> 00:11:44,930 I was working for. So what I thought was an initial barrier 177 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,200 when I was in pursuit of my licensure was you got to get a 178 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,380 supervisor you can do your first year with somebody that's not an 179 00:11:51,380 --> 00:11:55,280 LPC. The second two years with LPC. I was like, Oh, what a pain 180 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,800 in the butt man. It's going to be so challenging. I wish I 181 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,100 could just do it within the organization I'm working for, 182 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,360 but their supervisors were in different states. So she was in 183 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,910 California, and then there was one in Colorado and Georgia. 184 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:10,610 professional counselors were like, nope, your supervisor just 185 00:12:10,610 --> 00:12:13,160 got to be here in Georgia. So I found the clinical 186 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,030 neuropsychologist, Dr. Damon Loxton. I did my first year of 187 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:20,600 supervision with him. And the next two years of supervision, I 188 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,470 didn't group supervision with Dr. David McLeod, and Phil 189 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:30,200 Foster. And those were profound spaces of growth for me, as I 190 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:37,190 watched these three prominent clinicians run and operate their 191 00:12:37,190 --> 00:12:41,510 own private practice. And Dr. Tremble, what was really 192 00:12:41,510 --> 00:12:48,770 impressive to me was their love for the craft. And so they were 193 00:12:48,770 --> 00:12:52,880 successful. They had self sustaining private practices, 194 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,770 but they loved what they did, that absolute ly brought ethical 195 00:12:57,770 --> 00:13:01,490 integrity to everything that they did. And they empowered me 196 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,950 to believe that I could do the same. And so with that private 197 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:12,530 practice leap, I had a structure to follow. And I could reach to 198 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:16,010 these mentors. And they really kind of guided me in building 199 00:13:16,010 --> 00:13:19,070 the documentation, I needed my informed consent, the correct 200 00:13:19,070 --> 00:13:24,530 paperwork and getting insurance in every in creating my LLC, and 201 00:13:24,530 --> 00:13:30,590 making that an S Corp in finding a correct CPA and an accountant 202 00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:35,150 and a bookkeeper. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I, I would 203 00:13:35,150 --> 00:13:38,030 cuss but I don't want to do that on your podcast. I did not do 204 00:13:38,030 --> 00:13:42,440 it. Well, I messed it up. Okay, I messed up a lot. And I made a 205 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:48,380 lot of mistakes. But I learned so much along the way. And it 206 00:13:48,380 --> 00:13:53,420 was the risk that was directly correlated to my growth. And so 207 00:13:53,750 --> 00:14:01,370 I continued to learn. And I all but I always stayed focused on 208 00:14:01,550 --> 00:14:06,440 what was feeding my soul. So I needed to make a living, and I 209 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,300 needed to, excuse me be able to be compensated for my expertise 210 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:14,060 and the time and the career I was building. But that was never 211 00:14:14,060 --> 00:14:17,300 the focal point. For me, the focal point for me was, I want 212 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:21,200 to do right by my clients, I want to do incredible work. And 213 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:26,390 that I believe my focus on that is what brought wealth and 214 00:14:26,390 --> 00:14:31,010 abundance to my practice and stability in so many ways was 215 00:14:31,010 --> 00:14:34,130 just operating from an ethical standpoint and doing what was in 216 00:14:34,130 --> 00:14:36,170 the greatest good in the best interest of the clients and the 217 00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:37,220 families I served. 218 00:14:38,270 --> 00:14:41,150 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, yeah. And I appreciate that. Because 219 00:14:41,150 --> 00:14:43,940 the end the mentorship, of course, is very important, like 220 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:46,580 you said, and even though you might have it as you said, you 221 00:14:46,580 --> 00:14:49,160 still might make mistakes or still have things that because 222 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,440 you still have to tweak it for what you're doing and what you 223 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,700 understand and things like that, but to have someone to see it 224 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:58,340 before and that's what we're trying to do now. Right? Like 225 00:14:58,340 --> 00:15:00,710 I'm trying to do it for the next year. Right So you're doing it 226 00:15:00,710 --> 00:15:04,550 for the next generation too. And so hopefully, as people hear 227 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:08,270 this, and they see us move, and they see other people move, they 228 00:15:08,270 --> 00:15:12,740 will know that it's possible. Number one. And also, I think 229 00:15:12,740 --> 00:15:15,590 something like, this just helps more people and you're gonna 230 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,590 get, I'm gonna get you to tell us what you what you build, but 231 00:15:18,590 --> 00:15:21,380 I don't think people really are going to understand. And I wish 232 00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:26,330 I had like a video, we might attach a video plays to this so 233 00:15:26,330 --> 00:15:29,270 that people can really see what you develop. Because, you know, 234 00:15:29,270 --> 00:15:30,860 most people do in private practice, they have a little 235 00:15:30,890 --> 00:15:34,010 office and you go into them, so, okay, and I'm just gonna go 236 00:15:34,010 --> 00:15:36,770 ahead and get you to tell it tell them. And I don't know if 237 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:39,230 you initially started this way. So kind of tell us how you did. 238 00:15:39,230 --> 00:15:43,550 So we decide we're making about 65 grand, we decided, Hey, 239 00:15:43,850 --> 00:15:46,730 that's not gonna cut it. I can just go I can do this. Let me go 240 00:15:46,730 --> 00:15:50,240 to private practice. So what is your what was your vision when 241 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,110 you did that? Yeah. 242 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:54,546 Weston Robins: So So I make that leap. I put the focus on the 243 00:15:54,616 --> 00:15:58,924 PhD. I'm doing two days a week private practice. My wife and I 244 00:15:58,993 --> 00:16:02,815 have our second daughter. Our first daughter has pretty 245 00:16:02,885 --> 00:16:06,707 intense special needs and different challenges, autism, 246 00:16:06,776 --> 00:16:10,946 sensory issues. She's beautiful and Angel, but it required a 247 00:16:11,015 --> 00:16:15,254 lot. We have our second daughter and my wife was working at a 248 00:16:15,324 --> 00:16:19,423 time and I said, Listen, I'm going to take on a couple more 249 00:16:19,493 --> 00:16:23,593 days of private practice, and let you be able to be at home 250 00:16:23,662 --> 00:16:27,832 with the girls so you can give them what they need. And that 251 00:16:27,901 --> 00:16:32,210 was beautiful for me to be able to do that. Because when I was 252 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:36,032 making eight bucks an hour at the CD Shop, she was the 253 00:16:36,101 --> 00:16:40,479 breadwinner, and she taking care of me for so many years. So to 254 00:16:40,548 --> 00:16:44,579 be able to give that back was awesome. So 2014 to 2019. My 255 00:16:44,648 --> 00:16:49,026 private practice just grows. I go from two days a week to three 256 00:16:49,096 --> 00:16:53,126 days a week to four days a week, I continue to pour all my 257 00:16:53,196 --> 00:16:57,365 revenue back into my practice. So I moved to three different 258 00:16:57,435 --> 00:17:01,326 private practice offices. My third office is 1500 square 259 00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:05,426 feet, I shove a pool table in there. I got a little bit of 260 00:17:05,495 --> 00:17:09,456 workout stuff. I got guitars and art all over the walls i 261 00:17:09,526 --> 00:17:13,348 bringing in Nintendo Switch a flat screen. I'm doing an 262 00:17:13,417 --> 00:17:17,448 experiential work with teens, adolescents, families, and I 263 00:17:17,517 --> 00:17:21,687 love it and it's feeding my soul. And it's amazing. What Dr. 264 00:17:21,756 --> 00:17:26,134 Trimble I start to there's this pattern that I'm seeing. And so 265 00:17:26,203 --> 00:17:29,817 I'm, I have this thriving private practice, I have a 266 00:17:29,886 --> 00:17:33,917 waitlist, I'm getting referrals continually. But the young 267 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:38,156 people that are showing up to work with me as young as 10 is 268 00:17:38,225 --> 00:17:41,839 oldest 25 have been to wilderness therapy, different 269 00:17:41,908 --> 00:17:45,383 IOP and PHP programs, psychiatric facilities, self 270 00:17:45,452 --> 00:17:49,830 harm, substance abuse, anxiety, depression, a multitude of mood 271 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:53,652 disorders and different challenges. And I'm watching a 272 00:17:53,721 --> 00:17:57,196 repetitive cycle. And these families have utilized 273 00:17:57,265 --> 00:18:01,087 Educational Consultants, wilderness programs, all these 274 00:18:01,157 --> 00:18:05,257 different facilities. And young people have done incredible 275 00:18:05,326 --> 00:18:09,774 growth worked there. But they're still challenged and struggling 276 00:18:09,843 --> 00:18:14,152 and ending up back in my office. So I start to ask these young 277 00:18:14,221 --> 00:18:18,251 people that I have incredible relationship with. I'm like, 278 00:18:18,321 --> 00:18:22,560 Look, what worked, what didn't, if you could go anywhere, and 279 00:18:22,629 --> 00:18:26,729 you could do healing work the way that you wanted to do it, 280 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:30,690 the way that like, let's envision a place together, what 281 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,790 does that look like? And we started to collectively and CO 282 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:39,168 collaboratively dream up eternal strength, which is the center 283 00:18:39,237 --> 00:18:43,615 that I run now that we just hit our two year anniversary. And I 284 00:18:43,685 --> 00:18:47,715 started to listen to them. What would be the coolest stuff 285 00:18:47,785 --> 00:18:51,885 there. They were like, man, if we could have a full gym, if 286 00:18:51,954 --> 00:18:56,402 there was a skate ramp, if there was an art studio, if there was 287 00:18:56,471 --> 00:19:00,571 a full music recording studio, if there could be expressive 288 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,671 work. And I started to just dream it and envision it in my 289 00:19:04,740 --> 00:19:09,049 head and I would sketch it out and draw it with them. And we'd 290 00:19:09,118 --> 00:19:12,801 use sessions like that sometimes. And so fast forward 291 00:19:12,871 --> 00:19:16,971 to 2019. I reconnect with a friend of mine who we were best 292 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,140 friends in middle school. We hadn't talked in 24 years. got 293 00:19:21,209 --> 00:19:25,518 into a fight when we were 14. Yeah, I was like I had a guitar. 294 00:19:25,587 --> 00:19:29,409 I was like, Don't touch my guitar. Don't look at it. He 295 00:19:29,479 --> 00:19:33,509 touched it. We had words. And then we stopped talking. Oh, 296 00:19:33,579 --> 00:19:37,887 wow. And he for years, he was living in Hawaii. I found him on 297 00:19:37,957 --> 00:19:42,265 Instagram. We started to talk and we connected really quickly. 298 00:19:42,334 --> 00:19:46,434 And it was very synchronistic and I shared my vision. And I 299 00:19:46,504 --> 00:19:50,395 said I want to build the blend between a Community Youth 300 00:19:50,465 --> 00:19:54,773 Center, a YMCA Boys and Girls Club. But I wanted to have month 301 00:19:54,843 --> 00:19:58,734 to month top tier holistic customizable therapeutic care 302 00:19:58,804 --> 00:20:02,487 for mental health and for families with whatever they 303 00:20:02,556 --> 00:20:06,795 need. And so it was really out of desperation because so many 304 00:20:06,864 --> 00:20:11,242 families were saying can you do more can my son or daughter see 305 00:20:11,312 --> 00:20:15,273 you more than once a week? Do you have any good Oops that 306 00:20:15,342 --> 00:20:19,581 you're doing. So I was listening to them. And then he my good 307 00:20:19,651 --> 00:20:23,751 friend Zack moved back from Hawaii in January 2020. I said, 308 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:28,267 it'll take us about a year and a half to build the business plan 309 00:20:28,337 --> 00:20:32,576 to do everything. Dr. Trimble, we found the building. My wife 310 00:20:32,645 --> 00:20:36,676 found it at 500 square foot building in Alpharetta. I went 311 00:20:36,745 --> 00:20:41,054 and I looked at it in February, we went ahead and took another 312 00:20:41,123 --> 00:20:45,084 radical risk, got the keys, secured the building, got the 313 00:20:45,153 --> 00:20:49,184 keys in March 2020. And we opened our doors April 13 2020. 314 00:20:49,253 --> 00:20:53,631 Right when COVID hit the whole world shut down. But I still had 315 00:20:53,701 --> 00:20:58,148 families that were saying, Look, we'll do whatever, we'll wear a 316 00:20:58,218 --> 00:21:02,665 mask, you have an outdoor space, we'll do six feet apart. So all 317 00:21:02,734 --> 00:21:06,765 through COVID We just kept trucking along being as safe as 318 00:21:06,834 --> 00:21:11,212 we could serve and families as we could. And it's been ambiance 319 00:21:11,282 --> 00:21:15,312 with Dr. Trimble. I mean, this has been the most expansive 320 00:21:15,382 --> 00:21:19,898 growth oriented trying two years of my entire life. I was working 321 00:21:19,968 --> 00:21:24,346 100 hour work weeks, the first six months pouring my everything 322 00:21:24,415 --> 00:21:28,793 into it. I had like 11 grand in an IRA I wiped it completely up 323 00:21:28,863 --> 00:21:33,102 poured into the business. I got a couple PPP loans and II IDL 324 00:21:33,171 --> 00:21:36,993 loan that all came from my private practice, not from a 325 00:21:37,063 --> 00:21:40,954 terminal strength because we incorporated too late to be 326 00:21:41,023 --> 00:21:44,706 eligible for those 11 days too late to be precise, is 327 00:21:44,776 --> 00:21:48,945 February's. Anyways, everything I had I poured in. And I was 328 00:21:49,015 --> 00:21:53,323 like all chips on the table. All in this is my dream. I'm it's 329 00:21:53,393 --> 00:21:57,632 not a matter of whether it's going to work, I'm going to make 330 00:21:57,701 --> 00:22:02,009 it work. And so I I want to be raw and honest, was saying that 331 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:06,179 I thought as private practice that I understood business, I 332 00:22:06,248 --> 00:22:10,626 did not know I had Dr. Trimble, I had no clue. Now I had little 333 00:22:10,696 --> 00:22:14,657 bits and pieces, I could look at a p&l, I understood some 334 00:22:14,726 --> 00:22:18,548 overhead I could watch money in money out. It's a whole 335 00:22:18,618 --> 00:22:22,717 different ballgame, when I'm looking at an 8500 square foot 336 00:22:22,787 --> 00:22:26,539 facility serving 200 Plus families having a team of 11 337 00:22:26,609 --> 00:22:30,292 three clinicians, five therapeutic mentors, running a 338 00:22:30,361 --> 00:22:34,322 staff building a team, but again, I let my heart lead. We 339 00:22:34,392 --> 00:22:38,561 built this incredible culture. And then fast forward to last 340 00:22:38,631 --> 00:22:42,731 summer, we're about you know, a year and a half in. And Dr. 341 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,692 Trimble I was, it was the most stressful time of my life 342 00:22:46,761 --> 00:22:50,514 because I was servicing families. We never turned away 343 00:22:50,583 --> 00:22:54,683 one family, there was several families that couldn't afford 344 00:22:54,752 --> 00:22:59,200 our services. And I was sliding scale scholarship and doing ever 345 00:22:59,269 --> 00:23:03,578 had to be done. But I put the company in the organization into 346 00:23:03,647 --> 00:23:08,025 quite a bit of debt. And I hit a wall where I was like, I don't 347 00:23:08,094 --> 00:23:12,333 know, if I'm gonna be able to dig out of this, or how to even 348 00:23:12,403 --> 00:23:16,572 dig out of this. And a beautiful synchronistic divine moment 349 00:23:16,642 --> 00:23:20,881 happened where I had my head in my hands, I was praying about 350 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:25,398 it. And something told me which I believe is God kind of guiding 351 00:23:25,467 --> 00:23:29,567 me to reach out to my network. And so there was a couple of 352 00:23:29,636 --> 00:23:34,153 young guys who I had worked with and provided therapy to them for 353 00:23:34,223 --> 00:23:38,045 years. And their dads were incredibly savvy, successful 354 00:23:38,114 --> 00:23:42,284 business entrepreneurs. And I asked to have coffee with each 355 00:23:42,353 --> 00:23:46,870 one of them. And I wore my heart on my sleeve. And I said, here's 356 00:23:46,939 --> 00:23:51,039 everything I've done. Here's what I'm trying to do. Can you 357 00:23:51,109 --> 00:23:55,278 please give me some guidance, help support and knowledge and 358 00:23:55,348 --> 00:23:59,587 Dr. Trimble, both of them, put their arms around me, began to 359 00:23:59,656 --> 00:24:03,895 work with me weekly meet with me. And I'm in a much different 360 00:24:03,964 --> 00:24:07,786 position. So my wife and I then opened up a 501 C three 361 00:24:07,856 --> 00:24:12,095 nonprofit philanthropic leg of eternal strength. I started to 362 00:24:12,164 --> 00:24:16,681 be able to provide families that can't afford our services with a 363 00:24:16,751 --> 00:24:20,434 financial aid form, we can review and then we can get 364 00:24:20,503 --> 00:24:24,812 donations to be able to cover costs for them to be able to get 365 00:24:24,881 --> 00:24:28,981 services and access and these two gentlemen have now become 366 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:33,289 board members of the not. So it's been but but mentors again. 367 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,737 It's again, it was mentors and guides that I could go to and it 368 00:24:37,806 --> 00:24:42,184 wasn't in a book. And it wasn't watching a YouTube video. These 369 00:24:42,254 --> 00:24:46,492 were real life. I can ask you detailed questions. And now I'm 370 00:24:46,562 --> 00:24:50,523 very proud to say we hit our two year anniversary. We are 371 00:24:50,592 --> 00:24:54,970 thriving, moving in a positive direction. And now I feel like I 372 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,279 still won't claim that Um, you know, the people who are like, 373 00:24:59,348 --> 00:25:03,309 I'm a businessman. I'm a therapist, and I'm a really good 374 00:25:03,378 --> 00:25:07,617 therapist. Now look. But if you put a p&l in front of me, and 375 00:25:07,687 --> 00:25:11,856 you put a cash flow statement and a balance sheet, I look at 376 00:25:11,926 --> 00:25:15,956 it, I can understand it and my skills are growing, but I'm 377 00:25:16,026 --> 00:25:20,195 still learning so much. And so it's it's been beautiful. But 378 00:25:20,265 --> 00:25:24,295 it's all been a direct result of hard work, determination, 379 00:25:24,364 --> 00:25:27,770 consistency and mentorship and community support. 380 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:30,410 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, I mean, again, you said a lot, we 381 00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:33,290 could sit and talk for hours about each of those things that 382 00:25:33,290 --> 00:25:36,440 you said they're like, and one of the things I have a six 383 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,810 figure blueprint, and well is two of the things you say that I 384 00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:42,110 always say. First of all, we don't know how to be I call it 385 00:25:42,110 --> 00:25:46,160 be a become a leader, become a boss, right. And oftentimes, 386 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,070 like you said, you might have leadership skills. But when it 387 00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:51,500 actually comes to running something, especially as you 388 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,560 expand, like you said, to start to now have to be a boss with 389 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,400 employees, I have to manage this. And even the money part I 390 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,250 didn't many times I've given stuff away for free. And like 391 00:26:01,250 --> 00:26:04,130 you said, you know, I know we didn't go into it for the money. 392 00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:06,290 But again, you still have to feed your daughters, you still 393 00:26:06,290 --> 00:26:08,510 have to help with your wife, you still got to help those people 394 00:26:08,510 --> 00:26:11,600 who work for you still have to have money, because they work 395 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720 for you. You see, and so then you do have to figure out how do 396 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,510 I manage all of that. So that balls piece is so important, and 397 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:19,340 we weren't taught that at all in school? 398 00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:25,580 Weston Robins: Yep, and Dr. Tremble, Simon Sinek, are you he 399 00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:31,910 says it the absolute best in terms of money, monetary gain, 400 00:26:31,940 --> 00:26:36,560 and revenue. He says if the company is a vehicle, or a car, 401 00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:41,750 and that's the analogy, then the money is the fuel. But money is 402 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:45,650 taking you to the destination? What is the mission? What is the 403 00:26:45,650 --> 00:26:48,650 purpose? What are you trying to accomplish? Where are you trying 404 00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:54,770 to go? But the goal of the company isn't fuel. It's to get 405 00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:58,580 somewhere it's to allow the vehicle to drive in a certain 406 00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:01,910 direction. And I think when you begin to understand that you 407 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:05,000 recognize, like you said, all the intricate, intricate 408 00:27:05,030 --> 00:27:09,680 variables that come into play. And it is it's it's leadership. 409 00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:15,680 And it's a conscious leadership that can be done with empathy, 410 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:19,550 compassion, respect, but it's still leadership. And it's 411 00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:23,090 making very difficult decisions and needing to be very direct, 412 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,740 and needing to build a culture and build a team and make 413 00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:33,260 executive decisions. And a lot of people veer away from that, 414 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:36,860 because it creates an uncomfortable emotional state 415 00:27:36,860 --> 00:27:40,340 sometimes, but if you can step into it, you get to see yourself 416 00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:43,070 in so many new fashions, and you can grow more than you ever 417 00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:43,460 thought. 418 00:27:44,660 --> 00:27:46,010 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, and that's the thing because I'm 419 00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:48,650 still as I think about it, I'm still going I was, I was reading 420 00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:52,550 Mary Kay, America is my person. So I was reading her 421 00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:55,610 autobiography this morning, again, just thinking about this 422 00:27:55,610 --> 00:27:58,370 one part, she said about this and that, and you know, going 423 00:27:58,370 --> 00:28:00,710 back and seeing, you know, cuz she built the business when she 424 00:28:00,710 --> 00:28:04,100 was older, too. And she was gonna build it with her husband, 425 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,500 and he ended up dying a month before Mary Kay was supposed to 426 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:10,460 actually start know that. Wow. And so she wasn't gonna do it. 427 00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:13,130 And like, like you said earlier, she was like, Oh, my gosh, what 428 00:28:13,130 --> 00:28:15,710 am I got to do something? You know, I'm saying I can't not 429 00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:17,450 because I already have stuff ordered. I already have the 430 00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:20,210 people I already have. So like you were saying, I couldn't not 431 00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:23,210 do it. So I put everything I had into. And that's the other thing 432 00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:26,450 I just wanted to mention, is that sometimes people want to do 433 00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:30,260 something great without sacrifice. And you're gonna 434 00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:33,980 sacrifice money, you're gonna sacrifice time, you're gonna 435 00:28:33,980 --> 00:28:37,760 sacrifice, you know, sleep, you're gonna sacrifice. You 436 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,730 can't do anything. Great. And so you talked about various 437 00:28:41,150 --> 00:28:45,200 sacrifices that you made in order to do this be right, 438 00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:47,810 Weston Robins: Jimbo. People don't recognize the sacrifices 439 00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:52,550 the gift. Hmm. That's the pride. That's the that's the looking at 440 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:56,660 yourself in the mirror. And recognizing I did this, it's not 441 00:28:56,660 --> 00:29:00,860 what was obtained. It's who you had to become to obtain that. 442 00:29:01,070 --> 00:29:04,100 And people miss that. Like if this center got handed to me. 443 00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:06,500 And my parents were multimillionaires. And they were 444 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:09,080 like, sure you want to 8500 square foot building? Sure you 445 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,470 want startup capital, here's $2 million dollars, all of a 446 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:16,400 sudden, you don't care about it as much. You know, it's like 447 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,240 what what are you willing to sacrifice? And how can you grow 448 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,990 to go build your dream. And then that's where I feel very 449 00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:27,440 fortunate Dr. Dremel, because if this all ended tomorrow, I don't 450 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,280 regret anything. It's who I've become who I became as a leader, 451 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,680 my understanding of my skill set now around building a team 452 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,250 leadership, supervision, monetary and financial 453 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:43,670 management, none of that can be taken away. I still have all 454 00:29:43,670 --> 00:29:46,160 those skills that I built and was able to use 455 00:29:47,390 --> 00:29:48,830 Dr. Arcella Trimble: that's what I always think it's funny to 456 00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:52,130 West when people talk about the worst case scenario. You know, I 457 00:29:52,130 --> 00:29:54,350 always feel like like you said, even if we lose it all, you 458 00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:59,060 already know how you could do it again, you know what to do? Just 459 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,580 think about all those things. who'd been bankrupt 50 million 460 00:30:01,580 --> 00:30:04,820 times? Or who have lost everything and start over? So I 461 00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:07,850 just feel like, you know, as long as I feel like my mind, and 462 00:30:07,850 --> 00:30:10,550 I still have my physical health, I can do it again. 463 00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:13,190 Weston Robins: Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. 464 00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:15,800 Dr. Arcella Trimble: So and the other thing you keep saying that 465 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,650 I still want to, I think it's still worth emphasizing is that 466 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:21,770 mentorship and not being afraid to ask people, that sort of 467 00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:24,200 thing, I'm telling people, first of all, you cannot do anything 468 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,460 great by yourself, nothing great by yourself, nothing. Nothing. 469 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:30,860 You couldn't make children by your system, you couldn't have a 470 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:34,130 center by yourself, you couldn't get the men, you cannot do 471 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,210 anything great by yourself. Right? And so for you to keep, 472 00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:40,730 like you said, putting pride aside or putting out even 473 00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:43,130 countable now to worry about all that I have, I want someone to 474 00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:45,950 ask and all you do is say No, right? That's all you can say, 475 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:49,130 you know, and then I'm gonna ask somebody else until I get what I 476 00:30:49,130 --> 00:30:52,430 need, right? And then, and then like you said, Give it back. So 477 00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:55,160 I'm sure just like, I asked you to come when people ask you, you 478 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,340 will give back just like it was given to you. And so that's that 479 00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:03,440 cycle there. So to keep asking, also, I think that that's a 480 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,970 testimony of what happens when you do ask, and what happened 481 00:31:07,970 --> 00:31:10,520 for you, and then to receive it, too. That's the other thing. I 482 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,520 think sometimes people ask what they don't want to receive what 483 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,550 they heard, you know, and so it sounds like you've received it 484 00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:17,270 as well, 485 00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,420 Weston Robins: absolutely, and the willingness to learn along 486 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:23,540 the way, and you named it so beautifully, it's, it's 487 00:31:23,540 --> 00:31:28,190 community, it's recognizing that we are interlinked in a web of 488 00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:33,230 relationality. And that it's that given that take and 489 00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:37,640 supporting one another. And then I truly believe if I can get out 490 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,560 of my own way, and I can let go of ego, and I can make godly 491 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,820 decisions where divine light is working through me. And it's and 492 00:31:46,820 --> 00:31:50,840 it's ethics and integrity. And at the core, it's trying to help 493 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:55,130 others than beautiful abundance can happen. I think dangerous 494 00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:58,850 things happen when you start to think I can do it on my own. 495 00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:02,330 It's my ego, nobody else can do it, like I do it, it's like 496 00:32:02,330 --> 00:32:07,010 well, like to your point, you can only go so far that way. And 497 00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:11,120 it really is it's it's it's community and connection, that 498 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,260 is so beautiful. And so I mean, we wouldn't exist and what we're 499 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:17,420 doing right now without community, and that's what we 500 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:20,480 want to do is serve that community, to the best of our 501 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,730 ability and grow together. 502 00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,480 Dr. Arcella Trimble: So I know you said but I want to, I want 503 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,280 everybody to be clear what you built again, so So tell them 504 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,280 when you all came together. So tell them about the facility, we 505 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,190 know the size of it, but tell them what everything that's in 506 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:39,320 it. And again, who you serve. 507 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:42,830 Weston Robins: Awesome. So we do at a terminal strength, we call 508 00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:48,680 ourselves a center for radical youth work. Now when we say 509 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,340 radical youth work, when we're talking about we serve young 510 00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:56,840 people, anywhere from the age of 10 to 25, we'll do younger will 511 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,400 do older, and we work with young people who are struggling with 512 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,210 anxiety, depression, suicidality, substance abuse, 513 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,340 but we really everything we do is very humanistic, and person 514 00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:15,830 centered, and relational. And so we view these young people, as 515 00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:19,640 beautiful souls that we want to help tune into their greatest 516 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,890 potential. Everything we do is month to month. And it's fully 517 00:33:24,890 --> 00:33:29,330 customizable in terms of engagement. So we have 518 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,960 individual psychotherapy, individual therapeutic 519 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,330 mentoring, family systems work, parents support, and then a 520 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:42,800 tremendous amount of individualized group work. And 521 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,310 when I say individualized, I mean more. We have like creative 522 00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:51,740 expression Lab, our art groups, our ceramic groups, our music 523 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:58,190 groups, we really try and do our therapy process groups, based on 524 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,210 the young people that show up here and connecting them with 525 00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:05,660 the right other young people and then building this sacred space 526 00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:10,430 together. So everything is that month to month care, we course 527 00:34:10,430 --> 00:34:13,880 correct every single month based on what the family needs. And 528 00:34:13,910 --> 00:34:18,020 all of those services are ala carte, so we can do as little 529 00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:22,340 therapeutic support, or as much as the family needs, and there's 530 00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:27,560 no end date. So for a lot of young people, they can just show 531 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,620 up and maybe they've never had any therapeutic care. And they 532 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,780 can just start out and get the support they need and then we 533 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:34,940 can course correct or it could be young people who need on 534 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:40,790 Mersive outpatient care as much as a PHP or an IOP. And they're 535 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:43,520 coming back from a residential facility or coming out of a 536 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,270 psychiatric facility, and we can offer that level of support as 537 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:50,630 well. And then the community center piece has just been 538 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:57,230 beautiful because that's the piece that you know, we're doing 539 00:34:57,230 --> 00:35:00,380 these free events every single month community is built That's 540 00:35:00,380 --> 00:35:03,590 kind of the YMCA Boys and Girls Club Community Youth Center 541 00:35:03,590 --> 00:35:06,950 that's going on amongst all the mental health therapeutic 542 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:07,430 support. 543 00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:10,070 Dr. Arcella Trimble: So wait now so you have the the that 544 00:35:10,070 --> 00:35:11,840 therapeutic side, but when you're saying community, are you 545 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,620 saying just anyone can come into the center, just anyone, even if 546 00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:18,200 they're not getting therapeutic services, they just come for 547 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,000 free. So we just, 548 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:22,940 Weston Robins: yep. Last month, we did magic music rooms, and we 549 00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:27,740 turned every space in the center into a different music theme. We 550 00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:31,160 pulled up the garage doors, people were playing music, we 551 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,860 were passing out our bucket hats, people were painting and 552 00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:37,280 spray painting outside and anybody is welcome. And then 553 00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:41,720 every second Thursday of each month, we do a full open house 554 00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:45,590 from five to seven o'clock. And anybody is welcome from the 555 00:35:45,590 --> 00:35:48,860 community. So it could be teachers, parents, young people, 556 00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:52,790 families that are interested, we got food, we got snacks, and 557 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:54,410 people can just come and hang out. 558 00:35:57,110 --> 00:36:01,040 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Okay, so then so and tell them so I know. 559 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,150 I know you have a gym in there, you have music rooms. What else 560 00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:07,580 I know you had a did you have a rock wall or no, 561 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,984 Weston Robins: we did, we had a rock wall. And then we took 562 00:36:11,051 --> 00:36:15,256 nobody was really using parts of it, we took out the holes off 563 00:36:15,324 --> 00:36:19,461 and we made it into a graffiti wall. Oh, and one of the young 564 00:36:19,529 --> 00:36:23,327 people did this beautiful graffiti piece on it. But then 565 00:36:23,394 --> 00:36:27,531 we got a small skate ramp out back we got a fire pit, we have 566 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,601 a ceramics room. And we have a couple of different ceramics 567 00:36:31,668 --> 00:36:35,534 wheels. And we do a lot of pottery, we then have a couple 568 00:36:35,602 --> 00:36:39,468 of different art studios, we have a video game arena. And 569 00:36:39,535 --> 00:36:43,537 then we have our full music recording studio. And we have a 570 00:36:43,605 --> 00:36:47,945 podcast room. That's been really cool that young people can come 571 00:36:48,013 --> 00:36:51,675 on and either want to share their story and blasted on 572 00:36:51,743 --> 00:36:55,880 YouTube or Spotify or they just want to do a mock podcast and 573 00:36:55,948 --> 00:37:00,085 save it for themselves. And so it's been beautiful and funky. 574 00:37:00,152 --> 00:37:03,815 And we have so much space to just move through and use 575 00:37:03,882 --> 00:37:08,087 collectively. But the greatest gift Dr. Trimble is this is for 576 00:37:08,155 --> 00:37:12,292 them. Like this is an I'll get emotional, if I think about it 577 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,158 too much like to give youth a voice in their own healing 578 00:37:16,226 --> 00:37:20,498 journey and therapeutic care the way that they need and want to 579 00:37:20,566 --> 00:37:24,635 do it. i That's my passion and my mission. And so as they've 580 00:37:24,703 --> 00:37:28,569 been up here, they've made eternal strength, their space. 581 00:37:28,636 --> 00:37:32,841 And now it's this flattening of hierarchy, where it's a mutual 582 00:37:32,909 --> 00:37:36,639 liberation, and we're here to work with them. But we're 583 00:37:36,707 --> 00:37:40,912 leading this together. And so the mentors, the clinicians, and 584 00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:45,117 the young people, this is our space together to help heal one 585 00:37:45,184 --> 00:37:50,000 another through doing this work together. And it's just been beautiful. 586 00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:52,400 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, cuz that ended. And the reason I 587 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,490 want you to share it, because one of the missions of six 588 00:37:55,490 --> 00:37:58,070 figure therapists is to also show that you can do this 589 00:37:58,070 --> 00:38:00,290 differently. Like I said, most times, you just think you sit 590 00:38:00,290 --> 00:38:04,100 there on the couch, and you talk and then you go, but you had a 591 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:08,180 bigger vision. And so you think about, you know, what else could 592 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:11,960 could we do? And I think that your your vision gives people 593 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,890 room to move outside of that traditional view of providing 594 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,490 healing services and therapy services and helping services. 595 00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,920 So I think that that's why it was so important for you to 596 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,990 share what you're doing so hopefully that other 597 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:27,290 practitioners can, can dream bigger or dream differently and 598 00:38:27,290 --> 00:38:31,370 things like that. So, yeah, and especially the community because 599 00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:34,280 I hadn't even thought of that. I'm thinking oh, wow, you know, 600 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,190 to just help the community in general, because mental health 601 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:39,980 again, it's not usually seen that way, right? We just like 602 00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:45,440 exclusive place where you gotta go and can sneak in the building 603 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,530 and sit, you know, but just to have people come I think it 604 00:38:48,530 --> 00:38:52,730 helps normalize mental health and mental health practitioners. 605 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:55,040 Weston Robins: Yeah. And Dr. Tremble, I think about it 606 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,430 because it's like, you know, when when you kind of like 607 00:38:58,460 --> 00:39:01,880 philosophically ask the question, what is healing and 608 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,810 what heals people, I think that there's there's its connection, 609 00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:08,870 its relationship. It's being fully seen by another human 610 00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:12,080 being, and it's Tribal and Community connection, and 611 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:18,860 feeling like you're tuned in. And to me, that happened at the 612 00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:23,120 Boys and Girls Club, at community youth centers at tight 613 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,890 knit tribal, small communities. And we've lost that a big part 614 00:39:27,890 --> 00:39:31,790 of our society is lost that more and more. And so we may have all 615 00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:35,630 these specialized mental health treatment industries, but 616 00:39:35,630 --> 00:39:38,240 there's still treatment health facilities, mental health 617 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:42,410 treatment facilities. And so I wanted to combine the two and my 618 00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:48,200 ultimate goal is to grow and expand to get to a place where 619 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,030 we can blend both. And, you know, when we start to talk 620 00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:58,340 about monetary and mental health, I have a mission there 621 00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:02,120 as well because I feel like I Only the most affluent families 622 00:40:02,450 --> 00:40:06,590 can get access to top tier mental health therapeutic care. 623 00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:11,330 And I understand it because the best practitioners don't want to 624 00:40:11,330 --> 00:40:14,000 hassle with insurance, they can do private pay, they can do a 625 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,060 super bill. It's and I don't blame them. And I had mentors 626 00:40:17,060 --> 00:40:19,910 tell me, you don't want to do that, because they will step on 627 00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:22,010 your toes in terms of how you want to do mental health 628 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:26,990 treatment, do it the way you want to do it. My belief is with 629 00:40:26,990 --> 00:40:31,010 building the community center more and more, we can help heal. 630 00:40:31,070 --> 00:40:36,170 And we can also give families access to therapeutic care and 631 00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:40,040 treatment that would never have the means to get that if we can 632 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,370 do it in a creative way. And so there's a lot of affluent 633 00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:47,060 families that I know, that want to be able to give back and want 634 00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:51,140 to be able to help support a mission. And I think, you know, 635 00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:54,830 when you start to look at socioeconomic status, and kids 636 00:40:54,830 --> 00:40:58,910 from different economic backgrounds, I think a lot of 637 00:40:58,910 --> 00:41:03,260 healing happens when they meet one another, and start to 638 00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:06,560 understand where one another comes from and spend time 639 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,860 together rather than being separated the entire time. And 640 00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:13,580 so there's that beautiful blend. I'm trying to work on more and 641 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:14,090 more. 642 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:19,290 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, I just want one to ask a practical 643 00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:22,320 question. So how do people pay? Are they doing insurance or cash 644 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,160 both or 645 00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:25,590 Weston Robins: so so at a terminal strength? Like I said, 646 00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:29,040 everything is monthly, everything is ala carte, so each 647 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:35,460 service is an hour. So our individual therapy is 250 an 648 00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:39,540 hour, individual therapeutic mentoring is 150 An hour groups 649 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:44,490 or 125 an hour. And then it's building a monthly package of 650 00:41:44,610 --> 00:41:47,400 how many groups are you doing? How much mentoring, how much 651 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,430 individual therapy, how much family therapy, and so it can 652 00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:56,640 range anywhere from $1,000 a month, all the way up to $6,000 653 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,660 a month base. And that would be like really immersive, intense 654 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:05,940 PHP level care. And then for families that can't afford those 655 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:10,230 services we offer through cosmic Lamb, the 501 C three, the 656 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:13,710 financial aid form, and the ability to provide them with 657 00:42:13,710 --> 00:42:18,030 therapeutic care and services at a reduced cost. 658 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,070 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Gotcha. And so, um, okay, and so they're 659 00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:25,860 mostly then people are paying the cash then basically 660 00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:29,460 Spacebase Okay, okay. All right. Yeah. Cuz I was thinking like, 661 00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:31,920 you were saying what your mentor said it was insurance, that 662 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,960 definitely would be a lot to figure out how 663 00:42:34,830 --> 00:42:37,230 Weston Robins: we do super bills. And you know, there's 664 00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:40,590 certain families that can take our psychotherapy hours and our 665 00:42:40,590 --> 00:42:45,780 group hours, and we'll fill out the ICD 10 code and CPT codes, 666 00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:48,420 and they'll get some partial reimbursement on the back end. 667 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,010 But I, you know, insurance wants to do stuff like, Okay, we'll 668 00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:57,120 approve five sessions if you if you treat with EMDR, and you 669 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,310 diagnose PTSD, and it's like, well, insurance doesn't like 670 00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:06,570 when I say, We're gonna do a humanistic artistic healing hour 671 00:43:06,570 --> 00:43:12,090 called Radical youth work. They're like, what? So, so it's 672 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:17,220 it's sacrifices, again, you know, to to be different and to 673 00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:22,170 break the mold. But I think when you know, people are seeking 674 00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:27,210 healing. And when sacred space, if you if you really care about 675 00:43:27,210 --> 00:43:30,600 what you're doing, and you devote your yourself to it, then 676 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,480 the right people will show up, and you can serve that community 677 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,660 and you know, who you're trying to serve who your people are. 678 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,560 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Alright, well, thank you. I'm gonna ask 679 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,000 you a few more questions, and I'll let you go. Now, one of the 680 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,910 things here is that we believe that there are internal things 681 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:51,540 that you need to have to make six figures and external things 682 00:43:51,570 --> 00:43:54,150 that you need to have make six figures. And of course, we know 683 00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:56,190 the ultimate goal is to help people so we know we're going to 684 00:43:56,190 --> 00:43:58,200 do that regardless, like you say, you've done it for free, 685 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,810 I've done it for free. So we're always gonna help people in 686 00:44:00,810 --> 00:44:05,130 grocery store everywhere. So but in terms of this, this piece of 687 00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:08,700 being successful in terms of, because one of the things that I 688 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:11,700 did like that I do like is employing people, I still think 689 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,220 that that's a part of what we do to and I know, like you said, 690 00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:17,130 you have quite a bit of people you employ. So I don't I still 691 00:44:17,130 --> 00:44:20,100 think it's something about that, too, that I most enjoy as well. 692 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:25,050 But anyway, so what's something that was internal that you had 693 00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:28,770 to work on in order to be successful in order to make six 694 00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:29,310 figures? 695 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:35,340 Weston Robins: I think there was so much Dr. Trump. You know, I, 696 00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:41,580 I have a tendency to get very meta and think in layers and 697 00:44:41,610 --> 00:44:45,780 overthink and almost become neurotic. So I think I had to 698 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,010 the internal work that I had to do was to work on my 699 00:44:53,010 --> 00:45:02,070 relationship with money and to recognize that It was an 700 00:45:02,070 --> 00:45:07,470 integral part of life and how energy moved through through 701 00:45:07,470 --> 00:45:11,970 life. So I think for a long time, I had a huge distaste for 702 00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:18,330 how much power money had. And I still, you know, I still don't 703 00:45:18,330 --> 00:45:21,660 like it. But what I recognized was, I don't want to sit on the 704 00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:26,760 sidelines, and just critique and judge and have all these 705 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,800 preconceived notions, I want to get in, and I want to do my best 706 00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:39,690 to be a steward of monetary gain, and use it in a way that 707 00:45:39,690 --> 00:45:44,370 excels and pushes people towards growth and helps as many people 708 00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:49,410 as I can. So I think a lot of it was a relational examination of 709 00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:55,710 all my conditioning, from society about money and riches 710 00:45:55,710 --> 00:45:59,970 and abundance, and what that means and character and all 711 00:45:59,970 --> 00:46:03,930 those things kind of peeling that away. And just being okay 712 00:46:03,930 --> 00:46:08,010 with staying focused on my journey and my mission, and 713 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:12,180 doing doing that work. So I think that was the biggest 714 00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:17,490 internal work was just a lot of paying attention to it. And I 715 00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:23,430 still do it all the time where I don't ever make monetary gain 716 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:30,900 the focus, and anytime that I have, it becomes not good. And 717 00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:35,520 then I've met a lot of people who devote their entire lives to 718 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:41,070 monetary gain, and obtainment of that, and they're out of 719 00:46:41,070 --> 00:46:46,530 balance. And so I think for me, it's just a holistic balance and 720 00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:52,800 trying to not have any aversion to it and not judge it and just 721 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,480 trust that I'll make the right decisions. And then a tremendous 722 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,550 amount of internal work with money management. Absolutely, 723 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:05,790 that was something that I'm still I'm about to be 40. And 724 00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:11,580 tracking what I spend, and where I spend it. And, and, and 725 00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:16,680 watching and being conscious of the flow of consumerism, holy 726 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,200 crap, I'm like, there's a couple of times where I was like, I 727 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:25,080 will never DoorDash again, oh, my God. What, what, a lot of 728 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:30,090 times, it's so easy to be unconscious, to what you spend, 729 00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:35,370 because it's just as repetitive thing. And so I'm very tuned in 730 00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:40,680 spiritually with my own practice. And I feel like, I'm 731 00:47:41,370 --> 00:47:44,220 almost, I was talking to a buddy the other day, and we were 732 00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:46,620 talking about when you sit down and you eat, and you do a 733 00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:49,800 blessing before you food, just to become a little bit more 734 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,470 conscious and a little bit more aware of the gift and what 735 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:55,110 you're doing that you can do that same thing anytime you go 736 00:47:55,110 --> 00:47:59,610 make a purchase, and kind of check in and be like, is this 737 00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:03,780 something that I need, and I want and I need to consume right 738 00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:07,320 now and kind of ask for a blessing, as opposed to just 739 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,890 blindly consuming because man, this society will be like, we'll 740 00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:15,240 sell you anything you want all day, keep buying, go for it, you 741 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,670 know, you never drive down the highway and see a billboard that 742 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:20,250 says you can stop buying shit you have everything you need 743 00:48:20,250 --> 00:48:24,240 within you, you're good, you did just that it's not the message 744 00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:28,020 we get the message we constantly get is you got to consume more, 745 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:32,040 to beat something. And it's like, and then I think a lot 746 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:38,010 about, you know, priorities and where you place your priorities, 747 00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:42,330 and everything has a monetary price tag to it. But what's 748 00:48:42,330 --> 00:48:45,450 important, you know, and where do you want to put your energy? 749 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,010 Dr. Arcella Trimble: Yeah, I was reading a well, I don't read 750 00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:51,900 books anymore. I listened, I was listening to a book called The 751 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,650 pleasure trap. And it's a really interesting that it talks about, 752 00:48:55,650 --> 00:48:58,620 like everything we're consuming and all everything is 753 00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:01,620 pleasurable. And this was a written out, we gotta go. But I 754 00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:05,160 thought that one good concept, though, was in the book was it 755 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,750 was saying, Could it be that we have too much pleasure? And 756 00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:12,810 that's what's going on. Like, think about it, it's like, the 757 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,410 concept was that we have too much pleasure than then that's 758 00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:18,780 why everybody's kind of known because it's like, I got to do 759 00:49:18,780 --> 00:49:21,630 everything, like you were saying early on in the conversation 760 00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:24,270 about if somebody had just gave you the building and gave you 761 00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:27,750 you know, it just like we might be bombarded with too much 762 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:30,480 pleasure that nothing is pleasurable anymore because we 763 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,140 can instantly get it or find it or buy it. And so then as 764 00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:38,220 humans, are we we we write wiring ourselves to not have 765 00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:41,340 pleasure at all, which then ends up with all kinds of other 766 00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:42,450 issues. 767 00:49:42,510 --> 00:49:44,640 Weston Robins: Absolutely. I totally agree with that. And 768 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:50,100 they call it like hedonic apathy, or a sickness, just just 769 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,600 gluttony that at its worst. And so I think there's something 770 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,680 important about continued sacrifice and not being afraid 771 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,550 of pain and we're are keen and gifts being embedded in that. 772 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:05,880 Dr. Arcella Trimble: And I have fast it. Um, I was fasting for 773 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,370 like 10 days a few weeks ago. I know. 774 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,350 Weston Robins: That's awesome. 775 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,240 Dr. Arcella Trimble: I know. And people were like, how did you do 776 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,880 that? You know how you that couldn't even imagine I was and 777 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,550 I was doing it for discipline. I wasn't doing it. I mean, of 778 00:50:17,550 --> 00:50:19,740 course, I was trying to make sure you know, and get my body 779 00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:22,470 together. But I really it was for the discipline of it. 780 00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:25,560 Because I knew somebody who works with mines, I have to be 781 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,170 able to control mine. So that's a whole nother conversation. But 782 00:50:28,170 --> 00:50:31,470 I was like, You know what, I can control my mind and didn't help 783 00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:35,370 others. So anyway, but it was awesome. Yeah, it's an 784 00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:37,680 experience. It was an experience. It definitely was an 785 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,730 experience. And I'll be doing it some more. But the point is, 786 00:50:41,730 --> 00:50:44,550 like you said, figuring out how do we hone in on those things 787 00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:47,460 that we need to work on? And how do we believe that it's 788 00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:50,700 possible, like you said, so you learn and we're still learning. 789 00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:53,340 We're still growing, but it's possible. So okay, then tell me 790 00:50:53,340 --> 00:50:57,420 what external thing you had to learn to make six figures. So it 791 00:50:57,420 --> 00:50:59,520 could be like you said, business, it could be 792 00:50:59,550 --> 00:51:01,830 spreadsheets, any external thing? 793 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:12,210 Weston Robins: Man. Again, I mean, I, you know, the 794 00:51:12,210 --> 00:51:15,990 philosophical part of me wants to immediately answer that. 795 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,160 Money never stops and numbers never end. And so the attainment 796 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,010 of a certain amount of money should not be the goal, because 797 00:51:23,010 --> 00:51:26,250 that will keep you constantly seeking and searching. And I 798 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:29,070 love that cool interview man is Bob Marley. And they're 799 00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:31,620 interviewing him at one point in they're like, Are you a rich 800 00:51:31,620 --> 00:51:34,890 man? And he says, he says, What are you What do you mean rich? 801 00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:38,040 And he's like, Well, money. Do you have a lot of money? He 802 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,640 said, moneymaker man rich. And they're like, How much money do 803 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,610 you have? And they're like, do you have this amount? He's like, 804 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,730 you know, I think I have money. He's like that. That's not the 805 00:51:47,730 --> 00:51:50,670 kind of rich I'm rich with life. I'm rich with life and Dr. 806 00:51:50,670 --> 00:51:55,530 Trimble, I think the external thing for me has been to let go 807 00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:59,340 of this idea that obtaining a certain amount of money and 808 00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:01,800 hoarding, it is going to be the thing that makes me happy, 809 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:07,200 because I've met a lot of millionaires, and they are not 810 00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:11,070 happy, and they will tell you this, isn't it now, don't get it 811 00:52:11,070 --> 00:52:16,140 twisted. If you are in the traps of impoverishment, right? You're 812 00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:18,690 damn right money can equal happiness, because it can buy 813 00:52:18,690 --> 00:52:22,020 you a hot shower, it can get you a meal, it can get you out of 814 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:25,680 impoverishment, and an out of survival mode. But more money 815 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,050 doesn't equate to more happiness. So my biggest 816 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:34,260 external is paying attention to it, being conscious of it, 817 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,970 learning fiscal and financial responsibility. And that 818 00:52:38,970 --> 00:52:44,940 financial discipline equals financial freedom. It's not the 819 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:50,280 amount of money you make, it's what you do with the money you 820 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:56,400 make and how you manage it, that can equate to freedom and 821 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,870 investments. And looking at it that way. So that that was the 822 00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,690 biggest external, because you when you're younger, you think, 823 00:53:03,810 --> 00:53:08,040 man, if I make a million dollars, that's gonna be but if 824 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,400 your expenses are 1,000,001, 825 00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:12,150 Dr. Arcella Trimble: right? 826 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:15,690 Weston Robins: You spend it all, you know, it's like, I'd rather 827 00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:19,110 be the guy that makes this amount and you learn money 828 00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:22,680 management, and how to track and I've been gifted by these 829 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,030 beautiful mentors that again, you know, have a lot of 830 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:29,910 abundance, but they're very frugal, and they make a lot of 831 00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:33,540 smart decisions. And they're conscious and, and they, they 832 00:53:33,540 --> 00:53:37,680 watch money movement, and they're not afraid to look at it 833 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,020 and pay attention to it. So that's been the biggest external 834 00:53:40,020 --> 00:53:43,410 is tracking it, watching it, monitoring it, and also not 835 00:53:43,410 --> 00:53:46,890 being emotionally consumed. By 836 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,815 Dr. Arcella Trimble: exactly and that was the whole goal. You 837 00:53:49,866 --> 00:53:53,000 know, initially, I didn't even want to call this a six figure 838 00:53:53,052 --> 00:53:56,135 therapy because I know people like oh, you know, money is my 839 00:53:56,186 --> 00:53:59,115 butt. But again, one of the things I realized, especially 840 00:53:59,166 --> 00:54:02,198 when my kids were small, I realized, like you said, you had 841 00:54:02,249 --> 00:54:05,280 to take care of people, you know, and now I'm only child, I 842 00:54:05,332 --> 00:54:08,518 got parents, I'll take care of my parents, because they didn't 843 00:54:08,569 --> 00:54:11,857 save a whole bunch of money. So I have to do that. And then like 844 00:54:11,909 --> 00:54:15,146 you said, to give it away that when my kids were in college, we 845 00:54:15,197 --> 00:54:18,229 gave away computers to kids who didn't have so we gave away 846 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,363 money we gave you like I said, you could come back and get a 847 00:54:21,414 --> 00:54:24,600 you with the nonprofit. And so it's like, if you have that you 848 00:54:24,651 --> 00:54:27,734 can give but like you said, there is a balance because it is 849 00:54:27,785 --> 00:54:30,920 more it's more to it than that. And so I think a good balance 850 00:54:30,971 --> 00:54:34,260 combination of both, you know, good ego death alive. Absolutely. 851 00:54:34,290 --> 00:54:36,150 Weston Robins: Dr. Trump, I just want to say one more thing, 852 00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:38,340 because you made me think about this. And this is so important 853 00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:43,260 to me. I used to think that if you gift someone with money, 854 00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:47,730 it's always a good thing. And that's not necessarily true, 855 00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:52,320 because there are times in my life where people gave me money, 856 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:56,730 and it didn't help because I wasn't in a healthy position to 857 00:54:56,730 --> 00:55:00,450 use it the right way to balance it. So and then they Do these 858 00:55:00,450 --> 00:55:03,570 studies sometimes with homeless people where they've like, given 859 00:55:03,570 --> 00:55:06,060 them everything, and they've been like, Okay, we're gonna 860 00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:07,620 take you off the street, we're gonna give you an apartment, 861 00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:09,450 we're gonna give you an art, we're gonna give you a job, 862 00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:12,030 we're gonna give you all this. And they will end up nine times 863 00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:15,840 out of 10, homeless once again, because what they really needed 864 00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:19,350 was somebody who was a coach who could help them manage money, 865 00:55:19,470 --> 00:55:23,070 who could help them understand and watch the flow of it, not 866 00:55:23,070 --> 00:55:27,840 just the thing itself. And so I'm very grateful that any 867 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,260 amount of financial gain that shows up in my life right now, I 868 00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:36,090 have people that I can go to, and I can consult and say, help 869 00:55:36,090 --> 00:55:40,110 me think through this. Where should I place these funds? How 870 00:55:40,110 --> 00:55:43,170 should they be utilized? What are my goals in my life, in 871 00:55:43,170 --> 00:55:46,260 terms of my daughter's my family, in terms of 872 00:55:46,260 --> 00:55:49,770 philanthropic work, giving back community, continuing the 873 00:55:49,770 --> 00:55:53,460 business running the nonprofit? That's more valuable than 874 00:55:53,460 --> 00:55:56,640 anything? If you could tell me right now, West will give you $5 875 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,380 million and no mentors, or will give you mentors, and this 876 00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,020 amount, I'd be like, give me the mentors all day, because then I 877 00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:07,230 know where to go and what to do. And I'm learning Yeah, 878 00:56:07,930 --> 00:56:10,030 Dr. Arcella Trimble: yeah. Yeah. I mean, it makes so much sense. 879 00:56:10,030 --> 00:56:14,050 It makes so much sense. So before we go there anything else 880 00:56:14,050 --> 00:56:20,230 you want to say to anyone, especially people who who have a 881 00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:24,460 vision, you know, especially the big vision to help others? 882 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,030 Weston Robins: Yeah, yeah, I think I think I want to talk 883 00:56:30,030 --> 00:56:34,920 from my heart to young people. And so I appreciate you naming 884 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,400 your your podcast, the six figure therapist and us having 885 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,470 an open, honest discussion about career career development, 886 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,250 monetary gain, financial responsibility. I think that's 887 00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:49,740 important, because I think a lot of people avoid talking about 888 00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:52,350 it, because they feel like it's taboo, just like sex and death. 889 00:56:52,350 --> 00:56:54,750 And Freud, people don't want to talk about it. I think it's 890 00:56:54,750 --> 00:56:58,560 better when we talk about it. But what I want to say to young 891 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:04,620 people, is I believe that when you follow your passion, you do 892 00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:09,780 something that feeds your soul, that there is no ceiling to your 893 00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:14,100 success, and that's emotionally psychologically, holistically, 894 00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:19,170 financially, spiritually, but without the purpose without the 895 00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:22,320 mission. I think there's going to be a point in your 896 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,650 developmental growth where you start to question why am I doing 897 00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:29,580 what I'm doing? So I'd figured out that why first, what's my 898 00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:32,370 purpose? What's my mission? What's my vision? What do I care 899 00:57:32,370 --> 00:57:36,120 about the most? And then I pour everything into that and I think 900 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,880 with the right mentors and support, you can have all the 901 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,800 successes you want in every arena. 902 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,860 Dr. Arcella Trimble: That's why I can't say anything more 903 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:47,790 perfect than that. So thank you so much. I'm so excited you're 904 00:57:47,790 --> 00:57:52,410 here and I know you'll be back. Awesome. Thank you. 905 00:57:52,530 --> 00:58:06,750 Weston Robins: Thank you, Dr. Trimble