Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 5 Episode 18 - Intervention

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[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes a world looks like you ain't ever seen it before It's just behind never ending windows All you need is a door Searching for something to put a smile back on your face Just remembering unusual times I can come from an unusual place

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[SPEAKER_06]: I need a partner for the ride Cause everybody needs a ride Such a bird is to the side Just ask See the word now be there Just ask

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[SPEAKER_06]: I know the greatest things in the life I'll come in a pair They say hindsight's 20, 20 That ain't far enough behind me So we can walk this sweetest honey I think hindsight's 19, 19 There's a need to pretend I got a hand I can land Who's like you really need a friend Just ask

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[SPEAKER_07]: Shit 90's show's dot me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Shit 90's show's dot me was not filmed before live studio audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you ready to say another day?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So are we welcome back to shit 90's show's dot me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just Irling here with my co-host Sarah Humphrey, Sarah, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just how do I know that you're not a just spot?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, what's the question that I need to ask to make sure that I know it's you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a good question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this a different question than the like, how can you be sure that you haven't, you're not like being an evil-teld and hostage or like that, you know, your phone hasn't been taken.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's similar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's similar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But usually like the signs of you being a robot or like you're obsessed with talking about whoever like program you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so like, you're insanely happy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it would be easier to clock if I was a robot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you would smile so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very joyous, very happy, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could be a robot, who can say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's possible to do a little program, you know, if he did, he did a terrible job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you he really needs to work on the brain functioning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My thing is you shouldn't program the robot this much anxiety, it's just not cool, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't make robots have existential crises.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, who's not a robot, but is definitely a spuffy fan or guest this week, Tom Palmer, Tom, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm good, yeah, I'm kind of a spuffy fan, this episode may be challenging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you picked one that's like tough to defend, in terms of like sections, no.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it does have a big spuffy moment at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's the first actual kiss between Buffy and Spike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It happened.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, you're challenging that you're giving looks like you're challenging.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was not a kiss of passion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a pity kiss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a thanks for not giving up my sister kiss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I would say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if once we see,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the um once we see some sort of passion like buffy ball and uh spike had with the kiss then I would call it a real kiss it was once again a pitty kiss which is very sat for spike because I feel like most of the kisses in his life have probably been pitty kisses because he's pathetic as fuck but um yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I did rewatch the last episode, and I will say, because we should on that angel scene, so bad, just so bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say the kissing chemistry did improve, which I would probably give those props to Sarah Michelle Guller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think one of it's because she's like, I'm not playing Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am playing Buffy Bot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about Angel and Buffy in the last apologies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the, like the scust that I was feeling towards the scene previously, I noticed an improvement in the kiss chemistry is what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I, I started listening to some more five seasons into Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Sarah Michelle Guller is like, I can kiss on screen now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we're obviously talking about intervention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say the title of the episode, but like I kind of never do anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Season five episode 18.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's

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[SPEAKER_01]: time I want to know because sometimes you choose episodes that are like beloved and sometimes you choose episodes that people hate and so I assume again you never know because you never know with a Tom Palmer pick what is going to happen famously if you listen to one and describe a wool podcast you've just guessed it on that podcast on the past episode of

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[SPEAKER_01]: talking about Ephraim having a premature ejaculation, I've never heard so many come jokes in like one podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was honestly impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so you never know what you're going to get with a Tom pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So why did you pick this episode specifically?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's a combination of things.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There is

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a good episode to talk about stuffy both the good and the bad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I also do think it's it's a light episode in the midst of a lot of dark episodes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's some interesting stuff that happens with Buffy in this episode.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to talk about like requests.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Giles in his Gord and the hokey pokey.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I think this is more on the good side I get to be loving this episode like yeah, it's not like there's not it's not like the it's not everyone's like top 10, but like I think most people like it or

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[SPEAKER_04]: are extremely offended by it, so as long as you're not extremely offended by it, but I think interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to end up finding it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think like I said last episode that like we are due for a tonal change, like kind of like a little breath of lightness before the back

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[SPEAKER_02]: and to the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think that how this episode was placed makes a lot sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also grad, glad that like the looming Buffy Bought didn't really, it was a quick payoff, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we didn't have to sit here and worry for six episodes, like when is Buffy Bought coming?

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[SPEAKER_02]: She came, she saw, she conquered, she's gone, she broke, she broke, she's a little broken.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I will also say I was like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was nervous about the Buffybot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I thought, this was a lot better than I anticipated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I found how Sara Michelle Geller played Buffybot was really funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there was a lot of like very funny moments throughout it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that this was better than I could have imagined in terms of like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: um, it's just like the levity of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I did enjoy this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I understand like people could be offended because Spike made a robot that looks like Buffy so that he can have sex with her, but also we already know Spike is a fucking sicko, which is why I prefer to

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[SPEAKER_02]: use to get on this spuffy train that you all psychopaths are on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's actually insanity that you all stand this relationship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess I'm the only one that has some common sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to enter tainment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like buffy should marry a spike and be with him forever.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I very explicitly do not say that actually, uh, I have an impact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching us on YouTube, his name is Spuffy forever with five question marks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've read those as exclamation points, so, well, then you did not read that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I chose to see them differently, actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, let's get into this episode properly because I will also say this episode, I wrote down an insane amount of quotes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is a very quotable episode, which always boats well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's start with the Buffy and Giles storyline, the quest storyline where Giles wants Buffy to get back into training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Buffy is having a little bit of crisis of conscious

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[SPEAKER_01]: slang has been making it feel like she can't love anyone properly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And part of this, I think, is the grieving process with her mom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she starts telling Giles, like, Giles, I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don, I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, please know that I love you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very much feels like a response to her mother's death of wanting to make sure her feelings are known.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was honestly a little,

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[SPEAKER_01]: surprised that so soon after Joyce died, both Giles and Buffy were like, yeah, let's go out into the desert and like we've dawned with the Scoobies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like both because Dawn needs to be protected and glory still around, but also because like good God, I don't know, did they say how long it's been since Joyce passed?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it hasn't been that long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I've read it as like a few weeks.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would definitely say it hasn't just been one week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would definitely like a few.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let me be like three or four maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's been, it hasn't been that long, but I don't know, I wonder if also trials is like, get it, this will get Buffy's mind off of the grief and like, channel it into something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they have to go to the desert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Giles brings a book, a gourd, and some twigs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen this gourd before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't we?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we joked about the gourd, and I don't remember when we saw it, but I remember joking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a magic gourd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need it for gourd reasons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think when they broke into the initiative and the initiative like caught them and like sees them and they're right all these and they're like expecting weapons and then so they pull out a gourd you've got all these gourd so they needed it for at the end of season for they needed it for the mega buffie spells like the like heart buffie the brain buffie

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they needed it for that space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was the last time that we've seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, but I also think that we've seen it three times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the third time that we've seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't recall why we would have seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it was just like a background thing like we saw it at the magic shop or something, but this is not the we've seen it like three times in pretty confident.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the magic word.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that it speaks to me and makes me feel comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It is, it is, it's like a ridiculous like magic prop.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, it's like, we're gonna get a spell.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go, we gotta get a go at it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It just feels, it feels just a little on serious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, I mean, it isn't serious, but also like what the fuck is an eye of new?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like all the normal magic spells, it's always like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the eyelashes of a spider and like I don't know like a witch's toenail like it's all ridiculous hair of a virgin yeah yeah yeah I do think sometimes they're just trying to troll the actor who plays jiles because it's like okay and now you're gonna take this gourd you're gonna shake it and you're gonna hop around

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the hokey poker turn yourself around and the reason he's doing this is because he is technically Buffy's like guide and he needs to unassign himself from that role because he's not allowed to go where she's going and so Buffy just like wanders off on her own as he's doing this signs a fucking mountain lion and follows it And like this is we're getting into weird territory now where we're following a mountain lion around like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Sarah, did you immediately recognize this place as the Sandy Dunes from restless?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I, this is the other thing that we were warned or

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[SPEAKER_02]: People said like, hey, these dreams that you're going to see in restless a lot of it's going to play out in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and it has like we've seen it, we've seen like a lot, we obviously the reference for Dawn was is a big one that stands out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think there's something else that they said this episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like some word in particular that I'm not remembering at this very exact moment, but yeah, like I definitely recognize this desert is a very different look than sunny Dale so it's like kind of hard to forget and we've met the first layer before so I recognized the first layer and where we were at and also.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't it the whole the whole point was that she was going to go talk to the first layer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when the first layer was in that like CND desert locations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, like I connected the dots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Buffy is in the desert and the guide comes to her in the form of the first slayer who again, we saw in this deserty wasteland in restless and Tom, I wrote down a lot of quotes from the first layer because this is something that I very much felt like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the show sometimes is like pay attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be important in this felt like one of those moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first layer says, you're afraid that being a slayer means losing your humanity, your full of love, you love with all your soul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's brighter than the fire, blinding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you pull away from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that show,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh, love is pain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The slayer forges strength from pain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love, give, forgive, risk the pain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is your nature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love will bring you to your gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then above you says, what does my gift?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she says, death is your gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Buffy gets very upset because she's like, death isn't a gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My mom just died if I have to kill demons because it makes the world a better place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll do it, but it's not a gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first layer is just like, you're a question is been answered and leaves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've learned that death is, is Buffy's gift, which is interesting Tom because I feel we've talked a lot about Buffy's special ex-factor as her version of the Slayer is the Scoobies, is like the group that she surrounds herself with, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not like a solo act.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So death being a gift is very, very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what was your takeaway from death is your gift?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What did you think that meant?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This to me, and Sarah, you let me know what, how you interpreted this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I interpreted this as Buffy's mom dying will be what pushes her and like gives her purpose and drives her in the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Joyce's death, not like as an a gift, but is is what will fuel her?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, loss in general can help feel her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't really know to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The first layer was crossing some territory of word vomit lore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was very on interest.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you starting to go off there?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to leave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of uninterested in what the first layer was saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because she wasn't helpful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't helping.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was talking in riddles like we have, oh, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've minutes and then she's like, you're talking a bunch of bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, was it more clear, please?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want you to be more clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to like put, like, when do you accept her?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Explain it to me like I'm five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just like kind of erking me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if, what if, okay, we can't forget, less do we forget that Buffy died in a puddle in like season one, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And her death in a puddle,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the birth of like Kendra or something right and then Kendra's death caused faith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if they're talking about Buffy's OG death in a puddle, her drowning?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if like her death is a gift because it created the other slayers and then we'll come back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have we thought that she is unkillable?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have we thought that Buffy is unkillable?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, bought armor-wise or, like, yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're like, how many hours that, like, every time she dies, she'll come back somehow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that is what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm talking about like an automatic rejuvenation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about sawing the hedgehog falls off a cliff and comes back is what I'm talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will say Sarah, there is in vampire diaries, apparently there are rings that basically make you immune to death.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always a ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember how angel can live a normal life and it's at the ring on and that mother fucker was like, I don't know of this ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was talking to the ocean.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm also going to tell you just don't think too hard about vampire diaries in connection to Buffy because Buffy can make so little about him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It comes after Buffy and Angel and it steals a bunch from Buffy and Angel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: they do whatever the fuck they want on that show they're like we just make it up as we go we're literally making it up as it's being shot and it's fabulous but but yeah back to to Buffy about the death is okay so yeah so like happens like she can't be hills and then like she basically like rejuvenates or even if she does die and I don't know where you go

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like, wait, where's Gloria from?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, who cares?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, like, maybe, maybe she's like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she can rejuvenate herself somehow, because she did it already.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She already died.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very shallow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She died in the puddle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is like, oh, death is your gift.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're not when your dead, you're not dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing to think of obviously to take into account is like, okay, the vampires are kind of like undead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So is there like something there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the hell this first layer is talking about, but if I'm busy, I'm just so unclear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a thing, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, we know that, like, it's called Buffy the Man's Power Slayer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, she puts, she's going to put herself into danger for two more seasons plus a spin-off, eventually in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She ain't dying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You mean the Riku or is there a death thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, there's a spin-off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we're fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's not dying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, it's plot armor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Her plot armor is her gift.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so meta.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't kill her because obviously she's the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, or you're a mental artist.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She's just a robot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, you could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this robot took a one little hit and was like, down for the count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, like, I think, like, unless it's like all slayers gifts are death wish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the first layer did not see, like because every layer experiences a ton of death in me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like that's not original to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What was the other crap that the first layer is saying?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, I did kind of want to back up because just jump straight to the end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've blurted all of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do appreciate the thought of like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so she is saying wait, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the first?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She says love is pain the slayer Four inches straight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just set the scene during the campfire and there's a lot of fire imagery I think that's important to point out that they're like talking about how our love is is like the fire that burns and causes Right the pain and then buffies have been kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: You love a volume full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's brighter than the fire blinding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you pull away from it because like her love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so strong that it hurts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Avoid in personality is her is her attachment style.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, I do think what is my attachment style there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You seem pretty secure, actually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're, oh, look at her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do think that you do have a secure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's so secure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I know mine is not secure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not as good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to remember what mine is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at the different ones because I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get very depressing because like one time I was like up in the middle of the night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was reading about attachment styles and then I was like I read mine and like this is so me and then I cried a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very pathetic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the theirs?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's it's a it's a it's a quadrant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a positive negative and then there's secure anxious dismissive avoidant

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think that I, I will, I know that I am anxious attachment style.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I am like, I, I read it and like this is like literally me to fear of abandonment need for constant validation, depending on part of herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Always, always, that's the thing, that's the thing, you know, like I'm very like introspective, I like say here and like I think whatever who cares, uh, but, but back to, but unless it's Tom, you want to talk about your attachment style, but I don't, I don't think a normal person would.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't have to look into it more, I don't have time researching to cry about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I do think that puppy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if we're she, I think she's avoiding it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it is delicious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a joke, it's creepy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: People are watching us on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to Google and I'm so sorry, but the secret attachment has a cute little Act.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get to wear a fedora.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you agree with me, Chas?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, after a quick read?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, do you agree with me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't worry about being abandoned or... Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am validation, the green, look how he's sweating, he's right now full.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think Buffy is avoiding it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very important that I feel independent and self-sufficient.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that, well, basically, but I think that's kind of the thing, because of her attachment style, I think that she is prone to push preble way we've seen this before and I also think that when you push people away, you're you kind of like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, like, nobody can love me because you're pushing them away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't get to see the real you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in turn, when you think that you're unlovable, you wonder if you yourself are able to love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's mentioned many times, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She even brings up a Riley and Angel, this episode when talking to Jialse about her like prior relationships and her failure to be able to love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People and thinking that making us being a slayer is making her even harder to love and to give out love exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's like very much like that sort of a thing like where it's it's like you wonder if you can love somebody you wonder people can love you and I think that The first layer is like you can love so bright bubble of love, but also too hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that it's just that Buffy Probably needs to Work out someone for stuff in therapy and then she can realize that she is able to love I think that like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like everybody has the ability to love, but like also and be loved, it's just that like are you in the mindset and are you healthy enough mentally to accept that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think like that's what the first layer of saying if I was the first layer and I wanted to be actually helpful, I would say that in clear terms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she does, I will say, so she says, like, you know, that love is pain and the slayer forges strength from pain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She also says, love will bring you to your gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, that maybe does back up a little bit of what we've been saying of, love to be like the scoobies are her strength, having a crew around her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she only has that because she's like giving and receiving

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[SPEAKER_04]: uh and uh going back to the season one finale she died but then she was brought back but the only reason that she was able to be brought back is because Zander was there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She had a friend which apparently no other slayers ever had a friend who would who would go out she would have friends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This seems so sus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's like hundreds of slayers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody else had a friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know no one I mean it's it's a very so it's a it feels like a very isolating job to have right yeah I mean has anybody told Buffy that it's the systems problem and not necessarily hers you know and I mean like yeah the the whole system is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, you are brought up to be killed before the age of 18.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's all fucked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like it's phone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, because I've been thinking about why is this coming up because um, and how Buffy at this point has to be feeling with her mom dead, but with now with Don and her life, she's like having to step into this caretaker.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She's.

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[SPEAKER_04]: sort of like a single mom at this point having step in and she must be like, I don't know if I'm emotionally capable of doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she says it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, my mom knew everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My mom was the one who took care of things, like, how am I supposed to just do that now?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And just both from a, like, a practical

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[SPEAKER_04]: like Riley left earlier this season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She's kind of like wrapping that all in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If I can't even have a boyfriend, how am I supposed to take over.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Take care of a kid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's also.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's also the fact that she seemingly has a father out there who she reached out to for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: help during this time who essentially ghosted her in her mind and I think I still think he's dead, but so I think like if we're talking about her feeling unlovable, I think like she's probably thinking to like her father as well, especially because mother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know we saw in like a long time ago in the flashbacks that like she feels responsible for her parents divorce because they had a big argument about her, specifically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like feeling that you know feeling abandoned in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She probably, yeah, I probably also doesn't help with the feelings of being with.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's unfortunately been come kind of a pattern about these life where she's her dad, Angel left L.A. Riley took off in a helicopter.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, guys just keep leaving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that aids in the attachment style things because it's very much like you you're finding like love like you're choosing the people that are

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like Riley is a different story, but also he did leave, so it is a pattern that you, you know, and that enabled like that doubles down thoughts and feelings about yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's true or not true, but it's just like you're choosing these people or your, I mean, some of it's unfortunate luck and some of it isn't is unintentionally intentional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, so I thought that this was, I mean, it's always interesting when we try to understand more about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the slayers and their purpose and their past, you know, I joke that the first slayers absolutely useless during this whole thing, but I don't even know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that Buffy got anything out of it, honestly?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's it's going to stick in her brain like what the first layer or I guess the guide and the first layer's body said right like she jokes when she returns to this goobies like death is my gift that's what I learned like whatever that means I don't think it's clear to her now and I think I don't know that it

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like someone saying to her death is your gift literally weeks after her mother has died is like there's going to be a block like there's going to be a wall of like how dare you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to take a minute to sink in regardless but I do think like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost feels like a prophecy, like, oh, you won't understand this now, but like I'm going to say it now and you'll understand it later, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, prophecy girly confirmed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of this prophecy people can be real pains in the ass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just like, just tell me what I need to know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been saying, you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like if if we just keep it vague you're going to something's going to happen then you're going to be like That was prophesized Yeah, I'm not really, but it was vague enough that I'm reading it as it was prophesized Yeah, a broken clock is right two times a day type of thing Well, yeah, yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what happened with Buffie uh on her quest

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's briefly touch on Don before we get to the whole Buffy bot in Scooby's storyline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to talk about the fact that Don stole on his earrings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this felt like we're starting something here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're starting a storyline of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don's deals things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you put their earrings?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's some magical item.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like the spell book, the spell component.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's earrings, literal earrings, such you stole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's be real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Onion is going to fucking notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's, she, she spent her favorite thing, which is her money on those earrings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to notice their gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm going to say, if you're in a steel earrings, that's fine, but don't steal ugly earrings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to steal your friend's shit, fine, no problem, but don't steal something ugly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And those were ugly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to steal, I feel like the thing should be steal from a corporation, not a friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've heard that before, I wonder from who, um, yeah, yes, yeah, don't steal from your friends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I, I mean, I, now that you say that it wasn't spell components, I will say it could be spell components earrings, it, I mean, she's trying to do like a skill on on you because it could be like something owned by the person you're

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she's trying to gather components from everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe first is Ania and Nexel Bezander, Tara, Orbollo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, you know, like she has already done one spell behind people's bags.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like who's to say that this is not a first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think like it's pretty common.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, it's like the hair of people, the toenails or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also it's just like keep going to toenails.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why, because there are eyelashes, there's hair, like there's so many options that you go to toenails.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just like in that toenail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's only all kind of mood.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_04]: The spell is, if she's collecting components from everyone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's the spell?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's she plotting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she doesn't have a crush on Zander anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think it has anything to do with getting rid of Onya.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um...

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants her job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants Ania's job at the magic shop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it just a good idea?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hold it get a job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get her fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she wants to be a vengeance demon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But she's not the vengeance demon anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw from the Buffybot interface that she is next demon specifically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But was that a what it said on her on her interface next demon?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can What kind of spell if she was doing spells on everybody?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think like sometimes she's just likes a little bit of chaos Maybe something like not harmless, but like kind of harmless like

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like making people's hair fall out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm some, so I feel like if you're a hair fell out, you would not be saying this was a hard one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My hair, my hair probably does fall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it does fall out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just ask my robot vacuum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think it's maybe just like a teen thing, like she's just stealing things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's stealing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so, but I wish you would just shoplift instead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I mean, we, a lot of people just go through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never stolen from my friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, I try on my friends shoes like I like to go through my friends things, but I feel like you asked me once like what size she wore because you were like I want to you actually I'm pretty sure when you were at my house you said you tried on my boots, but I love a much larger foot than you so yes has like a really good collection that I don't think that she utilizes, but I don't know if you have any more, but she used to have like

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[SPEAKER_02]: 15 pairs of really nice writing boots or like different boots and they were I'm like your boot collection is beautiful So then like I did try them on, but Yeah, we're not the we don't have the same I mean just as like six inches taller than me Yeah, I wear a size 10 so I got them big old face

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you were like gonna steal them because Chess wasn't using them properly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was just trying them on because I didn't have, I didn't have like, I didn't have boost like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, oh, like these, like I have found stuff of my friends that I like and then I purchased the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that was my intention of like, oh, like if I like these, yeah, it's like going through a store.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so but no, I don't steal from my friends or my siblings, friends, but you know, I think it has less to do, I think it has to do with like, I need to collect spell components of people around me, even if like, hey, like, let me take this for like a rainy day type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like a little like a little camea chaos, a little chaos demon she is, you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what if she agreed with Sarah and it was like these are ugly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I need to make sure I never wear stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would have thrown these away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, actually, I would do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would throw out something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My friend, you know, my friend, you're not

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like this is a very unfortunate ugly thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just throw it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me help you out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so that's what's going on with Dawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's staying with the Scoobies because we said Buffy is on her little quest, which we'll talk about the Scoobies because they inevitably come into the plot with Spike and the Buffy bot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote down just so many Buffy bot quotes because they were all so funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Sarah Michelle Gellard

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[SPEAKER_01]: making it so that it is so obvious that it is not her, like the smiling was just non-stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hurt you, but I can't resist the sinister attraction of your cold and muscular body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could never do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drops the stake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm helpless against you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You fiend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Darn your sinister attraction and my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Spike, devour me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that she did a very, the time and she'll get her did a great job of watching the previous spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: sure delivery of those lines were like the different inflections were very specific and I felt that Sarah Michelle Geller studied what that actress did and imitated it really well and I was very impressed by that as well but yeah there was a lot of like very funny moments

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[SPEAKER_02]: even I loved when she interacted with her friends with the Scoobies and it was like spike gave like the most like a surface level information about these people and Buffybot reciting like you are a carpenter or like you like you are my friend

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[SPEAKER_01]: The info on Zander was friend, carpenter, dates on ya.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The info on on ya was dates, Zander likes money, ex-demon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she was like, how's your money?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And on, it was like, really good, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were asking, no one ever asks me about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Willow is best friend, gay 1999 to present, which and good with computers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Willow got an extra one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which I guess like that just is like, how much spike?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It like, I mean, he respects her or likes her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then to be see anybody else because it was very enjoyable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really liked seeing, uh, we didn't get a Tara one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, those were the only three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, know that she, uh, that that's, that's bike did not program Giles as name correctly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a Giles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was so funny too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then real buffies and Giles as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Giles being so like, didn't even program my name correctly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the note about Angel Angel's lame, his hair grows straight up, and he's bloody stupid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I honestly did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is why I was just like, oh, this is better than I ever kind of anticipated because basically because of like, we get to see how spike.

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[SPEAKER_02]: thinks of these people in like a backwards way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that was really fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also spike commenting on angels here, this episode, when spikes here, this episode was absolutely revolting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like you're having so much sex, Sarah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was horrible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a classic second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't slick a back like I like any sort of like ounce of like your not terrible looking gets eliminated because I I hated what was going on with his hair today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hated it just my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, so we talked about Spike, Spike gets the buffie bot, then they have a bunch of sex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem becomes when buffie bot goes out to go slaying, and bumps into Zander and Ania, who are on patrol, buffie is supposed to be in the desert on her quest, and obviously buffie is acting very strangely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zander realizes she didn't even ask about Dawn, so goes back to check on her because he left her with Spike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he sees them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: fucking in the cemetery and Buffy's saying as she's writing him, she's saying, you're the big bad, you're the big bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I liked that Buffy bod to say that she was a top girlie.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I think it did a lot of different ways to be fair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know if like this was once again a spikes specific preference, I think Spike was into all of it, oh yeah, it's spike and he's wearing a coat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so perfect and zander on you're just like what the hell is going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course also simultaneously, Glybglobs, the Glybglobgen population, spying on Puffy and all her friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're seeing like Puffy love spike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she's very concerned about

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[SPEAKER_02]: because glory, it like now knows that it's a human that's hiring a person, thank you that's hiding the key.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she was like, okay, you need to find something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Never want to have to be somebody kind of new.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And number two, it has to be somebody that like she protects above all else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's the clip gloves job to find out who the person is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the clip lie, the club job, so they are, I mean, like it was a little astute to assume, I didn't, I don't blame the

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[SPEAKER_02]: he kind of fits the bill like somebody that she seemingly knew, somebody that she was protecting all else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they didn't know that he was a vampire or even if he they did know that they didn't know that that meant that like he was impure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought that the

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also, they, you know, they don't, they won't think it is done because Well, it, it really is going to ground for a while exactly like the memory thing messes that up, but also like, I mean, think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Buffy is trying to protect this key at all costs,

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[SPEAKER_01]: theoretically the key should not be out patrolling and like fighting vampires.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so like, you know, but they the glove gloves aren't very intelligent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, um, meanwhile, right, the Scoobies find out about Buffy bought, but they think Buffy fucking spike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zander is like, what is happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes back to the rest of the Scoobies goes to Willow and Tara and I

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was pretty good and like I do think I do think if if this wasn't right after Joyce's death, I think they would have gotten to robot quicker, like the might have figured that out, but they're like, Joyce just died anything could happen with Buffy shoes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She knows what could happen right now, but I guess they're just on his understanding of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did love all of their reactions and Sanders decided I'm going to go talk to like spike and buffie because this isn't right like this isn't okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he confront spike and I mean I thought this was like very nice friend thing to do and basically be like you're taking advantage of someone who's mom just died like it's not okay like I'm going to take care of you if you don't stop it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the middle of all of this, the glib globbians come in as Buffybot is hiding in the creepy shrine area that we've seen before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the glib globbians come in noxander out and takes spike because they think he is the key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like a whole mess, Buffybot of course is like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, my spiky, oh no, he's been taken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she goes to the willow, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because Dander walked in, Buffy was giving spiky blow job.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, oh, you gotta go hide in the watch of a call.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then she's like, I couldn't be without you for more than two minutes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, we gotta go rescue his bike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I I feel like okay because there were times right when she's like pretending to like Slay him right she has like the steak to his chest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She like rips his shirt open But she was like I felt like spike would have been turned off by how much she was like oh Spike like she was like too nice to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he loves the like

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[SPEAKER_01]: meanness, you know, I think he thrives on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think of came out eventually kind of like how Warren got sick of Amber.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And how it got old quick, I think that's spike would have been the same, which is a programming issue from Warren.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe he learned his lesson and he would have programmed it differently and in time a different program would boot up where Buffy is being sassier.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just, I don't think the robot has it in it to be, like, actually, like, sass it and combat if, like, I don't think the, the reason why spike in Buffy, why some people are shipping them is because of the, the sparks and the, and the tension.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't think that was ever going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And right, we're just doing weird things with their eyebrows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's Tom, they didn't know that on the audio-only version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They do have good chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Bobby about freaking out that Spike is now missing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she goes to Willow, who is her best friend, gay, 1999, to present which and good with computers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love Willow being like, but you, oh, it's okay if you just had sex with Spike the one time and she's like, oh, no, it wasn't just one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was lots of times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And lots of different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So over the top and she's I'm so sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I upset you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're my best friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like so over the top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I totally agree with you, Tom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the only reason they could get away with the Scooby's not realizing that Buffy Bot is a robot because they've literally been around the Warren robot girl is because of Joyce's death because they are like why is Buffy acting so strangely?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, obviously her mom died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Zander comes in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He tells everybody let Spike has gotten taken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they all go to try to assemble some weapons and get a plan together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, they all turn to Buffy Sarah wanting to know, Buffy, what's the plan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How should I know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you looking at me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the complete antithesis of Buffy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also like I like that Zander was just like very validating in that moment and he was just like you're right like we shouldn't turn to you for all the answers No problem just like if you want to go Change and like we get your weapons like let's go and that's when the real buffie comes back from her her her mission her journey her quest

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and she, uh, you know, you can automatically tell a difference between her attitude or like how, how she exists in their worlds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, um, I, I like how, you know, that's when they decide to be like, okay, like, you know, the spike thing is like gang out control, blah, blah, blah, blah, and they're like, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I never was with Spike and they're like, we saw you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, like, Buffy Bought comes in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, oh my gosh, we've seen this before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and they're like, it's two puppies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, and Buffy was like, no, that's a robot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why the heck can you guys not tell between me and a robot?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was,

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[SPEAKER_02]: very funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that reveal that moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like the juxtaposition between Buffy Bot who's like wearing a skirt, wearing like all pink, so smiley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like almost giving like elf and like I love smiling smiling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite, like share her default is smile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Buffy who is much more like obviously she's having a tough time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's more reserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She has like her hair and like a low pony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's wearing pants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We always see Buffy in pants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's super rare to see her in anything but pants even at the funeral I noticed actually she was wearing like dress pants and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it is off to see Buffy wearing a skirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I I love this I especially love the the line the like I I who the what with the heart like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just Bobby being like, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and then Santa's like, we can't, we can't, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's really, like, good looking and that tight muscular, what, what, what, what did you write down that call?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no one is judging you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's understandable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spike is strong and mysterious and sort of compact, but well, muscle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Buffy says, I'm not having sex with Spike, but I'm starting to think that you might be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spike's behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's straddling Spike?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, they all decide okay, we have to go figure out like, because they, you know, once, but the real Buffy learns that Spike has been taken by Glory, she's worried that he will tell that Dawn is the key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's like, okay, I remember that creepy serpent thing and where it was running to, so maybe from here we can find Glory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mean while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Frick and glory, holy shit, my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She has spike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is torturing this man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She literally shoves a finger inside of him and starts yelling at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because she knows he is a vampire, so he can't be the key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She also knows he might have some helpful information, so she's going to torture the fuck out of him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was intense and I felt like these, um, yeah, it's, it's fun to see glory get to be evil and get to, you know, a lot of the times we get to just see her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: say funny lines and kind of have her mentee bees or like a lot of like planning and we don't get to see her we've seen her fight before we haven't seen her like torture somebody before so that was cool to see um and you know spike to his credit held out and I

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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew that he wasn't going to gap about it, so, you know, very lucky that like the Scoobies went and found him and they did because I do think that like he would have gone like as far as

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[SPEAKER_02]: possible without saying anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I, I liked that, like, he, he, like, did a fake out and like the glue blouse was like, well, bring a Rob Barker, no problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Bob Barker from the price of Friday will go and get him and bring him back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gloria's rage might need to know you stupid dumb fucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not Bob Barker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that Gloria knows who Bob Barker is and is and she was like, I She's like, he's old as hell like and like, you know, Mark or catching strays.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bob Berger gets, you know, called that in a lot of shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that, um, what didn't Barney think that that was his dad and how I met your, yes, for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that it was, it was really cool to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, they, he did wind up like a scape in jumping on like the elevator.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was wild.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His escape, especially because he,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I love that he was able to get under Glory's skin a bit as well by not only faking out with the Bob Barker thing, but then like throwing in some real jabs like where it would hurt her where he says the slayer's gonna kick your skinky lopsided ass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever place you would take a cheap, horish fashion victim, ex-mod like you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's just like, what, like, she's like looking at her own butt, like she's very offended by all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Me, he calls her like a bottle blonde too, which is, yeah, he said her hair was a bad perm, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, like, it definitely isn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, I would be offended if I were her too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be a, could be a perm, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it looks poor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her curls are gorgeous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I also do think because what Spike did with the Buffy Bot was gross, the writers were like, we need the audience to forgive Spike.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we need to have him be tortured and punished for what he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to stick up for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so that kind of give us permission for the audience to forgive them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Even if they really shouldn't, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which thing is she like cuts his chest sticks a finger in him shoves him up against a wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His face looks like beaten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really does take a beating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does escape just as Buffy the Scoobies and the Buffy Bot come in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fight fight fight fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all know Kiki punchy stuff happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Buffy Bot like has a little bit of a malfunction or maybe when she gets slammed against the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A screw comes loose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know something got happens to her.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And can you take a moment to say that?

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, the hospitals are useless.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like whenever the hospitals, it's just like they spend so much time like aiming and then one shot off and it never does anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Train with a real bow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like either do that or use something else.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're always gonna end up punching.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't even know why they bother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: yeah, just carry a lot of sticks.

57:32.953 --> 57:39.890
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, they, they end up like defeating the Globians and the Globians were turned to glory and they're like, Oh, my God, she was everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, we couldn't take her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not saying that there's like two of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just

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[SPEAKER_02]: How did they not notice the glimpses are fucking horrible men?

57:50.373 --> 57:54.779
[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay, come on, they're trying their best.

57:54.799 --> 58:03.872
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how, I truly don't know how they were able to stealth around so much, looking like they do and looking like they're up to shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't look innocent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, so then, so they're not good to touch anything.

58:15.721 --> 58:18.505
[SPEAKER_02]: being a supplementary toward sclery.

58:18.525 --> 58:24.953
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's so, I mean, the amount of adjectives, the amount of adjectives that they can come up with.

58:25.593 --> 58:30.520
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the main club did a good job extracting information from Ben.

58:30.860 --> 58:35.566
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's more of just the bar so low, Ben is so stupid.

58:35.626 --> 58:37.288
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he gave it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't torture him at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just said the thing he wasn't supposed to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I hate him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that I don't like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we heard from Gloria.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was getting nervous because like she's saying, I, oh, I'm like sharing my body with like my enemy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so like I'm still don't know how this happened, but we know that their brother and sister, I.

59:00.642 --> 59:08.892
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fully in on like somehow they got cursed or she's she got punished and they had to share party that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah, it's the only way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this whole thing is a logistical nightmare to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what if you're in the middle of like peeing and your body changes back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like nightmare.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I personally choose the blades of the magic weights until after you're done going to the bathroom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, just fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She says, I'm a god in exile far for an exile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it seems that she was a Danish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was a car from the hell fires of home and sharing my body with an enemy that stabs my boys in their fleshy little stomachs.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's something, what's the exile thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We knew that because no, yeah, we did know that because that's why she wants to keep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wants to get back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wants, yeah, she wants to get back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we did know that she was an exile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what she knows too, she's basically, yeah, and basically, she's saying like, we're running out of time.

01:00:04.279 --> 01:00:05.240
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, which we knew.

01:00:05.321 --> 01:00:07.263
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is why she's like doing another gun.

01:00:07.443 --> 01:00:08.405
[SPEAKER_02]: She's from hell.

01:00:08.625 --> 01:00:10.828
[SPEAKER_02]: If she's from the underworld.

01:00:10.927 --> 01:00:28.104
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what bad thing do you have to do to get punished by getting kicked out of the underworld if you know what I mean, like they are notoriously bad down there, so what if she did something good that's a makes sense, though.

01:00:29.685 --> 01:00:39.415
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sure or she did something bad to another god like that maybe now or like maybe she.

01:00:39.884 --> 01:00:53.705
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's, you know, like it kind of just makes me think of her Achilles, and like the Hades and he's just like, or like those like little like creepy ladies that are like around the place.

01:00:53.725 --> 01:00:54.165
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:00:54.185 --> 01:01:04.761
[SPEAKER_02]: And like they're, they're like there's rhyme or reason to when the death comes and maybe what's her face glory was like,

01:01:04.741 --> 01:01:13.833
[SPEAKER_02]: She was just like, I'm taking lives just because I feel like it and the maybe there's like some other people that are like, oh, you can't do that.

01:01:13.953 --> 01:01:15.675
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has a life this string.

01:01:15.716 --> 01:01:24.387
[SPEAKER_02]: They have to live out their string and like she was cutting the string short and they're like, you are fired from your.

01:01:25.598 --> 01:01:30.324
[SPEAKER_02]: God of death, thing, and I wonder what actually else.

01:01:30.664 --> 01:01:33.488
[SPEAKER_02]: But then like, but then how does Ben like come into it?

01:01:33.728 --> 01:01:35.891
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's like the God of life.

01:01:35.951 --> 01:01:37.633
[SPEAKER_02]: That would tie into the doctor thing.

01:01:37.653 --> 01:01:40.797
[SPEAKER_02]: And like they had to like balance each other out.

01:01:41.278 --> 01:01:45.744
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they no longer balance each other out because she was taking advantage.

01:01:45.784 --> 01:01:48.247
[SPEAKER_02]: But then he said that he always has a clean up her shit.

01:01:48.748 --> 01:01:49.869
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

01:01:49.889 --> 01:01:51.471
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that maybe

01:01:51.451 --> 01:01:59.099
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably, well, this might be a, oh, like, what you're coming up with is so much more interesting, why actually happen, they're just, juggle and hide.

01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:04.145
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, I feel like it, I feel like that would make sense.

01:02:04.165 --> 01:02:05.066
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:02:05.146 --> 01:02:05.486
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:02:05.827 --> 01:02:09.090
[SPEAKER_01]: The only other option I could think of is like, is this a test?

01:02:09.611 --> 01:02:11.793
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she got sent away.

01:02:12.033 --> 01:02:13.495
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is like a quest of sorts.

01:02:13.555 --> 01:02:17.239
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if she can get back, she'll get like some sort of reward.

01:02:17.219 --> 01:02:29.336
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like she's on a mission because she's next in line to inherit the hell throne or something, but like, I don't know Ben is her brother.

01:02:29.556 --> 01:02:30.357
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:02:30.578 --> 01:02:35.565
[SPEAKER_02]: I just Ben, who is seemingly a good guy, even though that's debatable.

01:02:35.705 --> 01:02:36.766
[SPEAKER_02]: He's an idiot, good guy.

01:02:36.786 --> 01:02:46.720
[SPEAKER_02]: Get stuck with her and how was he stuck with her to begin with?

01:02:47.695 --> 01:02:48.914
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of like.

01:02:49.602 --> 01:03:06.822
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, kind of like he, you know, in the new critical role season, like we have tyranny tyranny is like a demon and she's like supposed to be evil and like everybody else around her is evil, but like she's kind of not evil even though she has a job to be evil, like maybe that's what Ben is.

01:03:06.862 --> 01:03:10.887
[SPEAKER_02]: He just sucks to be evil, but then why would you have to go clean up her messes?

01:03:11.327 --> 01:03:11.788
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:03:12.028 --> 01:03:16.553
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking I guess too much into it, but well, we'll figure it out within a few episodes at least.

01:03:16.774 --> 01:03:18.816
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.

01:03:19.133 --> 01:03:22.499
[SPEAKER_04]: So, and did some in the demon that ate a bunch of people?

01:03:22.799 --> 01:03:25.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the weird, creepy, pod thing.

01:03:25.564 --> 01:03:29.771
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if he's in like, in D&D terms if he's in the good.

01:03:30.552 --> 01:03:35.079
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cleaning up her mess was like clean up her mess on Earth by doing other bad things.

01:03:35.580 --> 01:03:36.502
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:03:36.642 --> 01:03:38.966
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's, I think he's neutral at best.

01:03:39.887 --> 01:03:40.208
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:03:40.228 --> 01:03:43.453
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's lying about being a physician, so...

01:03:44.345 --> 01:03:53.013
[SPEAKER_01]: That we have established, okay, so Willow decides, okay, the Buffy Bought, we could fix it very easily, but we're not going to.

01:03:53.093 --> 01:04:01.560
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Spike definitely was not using the Buffy Bought to play checkers with, even though that's what Tara told Don, no one believes that.

01:04:02.261 --> 01:04:14.031
[SPEAKER_01]: And we all knew, we all knew the moment that Buffy and the skirt and everything walked into Spike's crypt that that was not Buffy Bought, we all knew, right?

01:04:14.011 --> 01:04:19.998
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, especially because the scene before was like I need to make sure like that he didn't say anything.

01:04:20.038 --> 01:04:26.245
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to know yes for sure because of he did say something that don't and I have to leave yet to escape.

01:04:26.365 --> 01:04:30.410
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I yeah, but I think that she did a good job.

01:04:31.010 --> 01:04:32.792
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I covered in sexy wounds.

01:04:33.373 --> 01:04:36.036
[SPEAKER_02]: I also think she did a good job of.

01:04:36.016 --> 01:04:40.485
[SPEAKER_02]: making it seem like she's the real Buffy pretending to be the fake Buffy.

01:04:40.946 --> 01:04:48.761
[SPEAKER_02]: If that makes sense, like I think that there's like a decision between Buffy Buffy Buffy and Buffy pretending to be Buffy Buffy Buffy Buffy.

01:04:48.781 --> 01:04:51.206
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, I'm a little you mean Sarah Michelle Geller did a great job with that.

01:04:51.226 --> 01:04:55.695
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, I was very able to detect

01:04:56.688 --> 01:05:17.700
[SPEAKER_02]: fake buffy pretending to be fake buffy which is because she wasn't and like there wasn't like as much smiling and it felt much more like put on yeah so once again I felt like Sarah Michelle Gallard did a phenomenal job which is I think like one of the good things about the season and it's just like her

01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:23.494
[SPEAKER_02]: acting is continuously gang elevated throughout the series.

01:05:23.514 --> 01:05:27.383
[SPEAKER_04]: She did all this on the same season where she did the body.

01:05:28.325 --> 01:05:33.698
[SPEAKER_04]: She should have won an Emmy for the season.

01:05:33.863 --> 01:05:34.304
[SPEAKER_04]: straight up.

01:05:34.604 --> 01:05:36.687
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it honestly is incredible.

01:05:36.748 --> 01:05:41.395
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do agree with you, Sarah, I think like her acting, not that she was bad in season one, because that's not what I'm saying.

01:05:41.816 --> 01:05:44.600
[SPEAKER_01]: You can just feel that she has come into her own as an actor.

01:05:45.041 --> 01:05:55.477
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she has, because like, I mean, I assume season one was like one of her very first acting things or like one of her first serious, like ongoing acting gig.

01:05:55.497 --> 01:05:57.340
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she came from a soap opera.

01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:24.441
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I just think like this, I think she has learned and grown with the show and she Yes, she was really impressive and she again wants to know what spike had told glory and so she says oh well like I can go tell glory that Dawn is the key and he he immediately stops her he says the other buffy would not like if anything happened Dawn and it destroy her I couldn't live her being in that much pain let glory kill me first

01:06:24.421 --> 01:06:29.508
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is when real Buffy Kisses Spike.

01:06:29.928 --> 01:06:30.930
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a tiny kiss.

01:06:31.010 --> 01:06:31.951
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a soft kiss.

01:06:32.011 --> 01:06:36.577
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a very quick like thank you for not giving up my sister and ruining our lives.

01:06:36.657 --> 01:06:36.978
[SPEAKER_01]: Kiss.

01:06:38.460 --> 01:06:39.801
[SPEAKER_01]: She moves back and he knows.

01:06:40.302 --> 01:06:41.644
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how Buffy Bought Kisses.

01:06:42.085 --> 01:06:43.206
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows.

01:06:43.186 --> 01:07:04.738
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love, come, I like how the show knows that the audience is smart enough to not have to be like told all of this week we're shown it right by the look on spikes face and then him asking and my robot, yeah, it's so smart.

01:07:05.444 --> 01:07:08.007
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, why do you think Buffy Kisser?

01:07:08.027 --> 01:07:29.916
[SPEAKER_04]: I like you said you think there's more anything more to it, not even just like what do you think, especially in the context of this episode where Buffy's like thinking about Ishicap a little of love, is there more, is there anything more to it than just this act was meant something to me?

01:07:30.200 --> 01:07:35.288
[SPEAKER_02]: You can insinuate that that might be the case, but I would absolutely fucking refuse.

01:07:35.428 --> 01:07:50.571
[SPEAKER_02]: So I say no, it was a thank you kiss, a pity kiss, a that's it, you know, because absolutely, I like what she says after that as she's leaving, she was just like,

01:07:51.344 --> 01:08:01.255
[SPEAKER_02]: what you did was that was obscene and disgusting and really vile, but not real, but what you did was real.

01:08:01.495 --> 01:08:04.138
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like she is appreciative.

01:08:04.179 --> 01:08:18.735
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that in a meta lens, this opens up an opportunity

01:08:19.340 --> 01:08:19.761
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:08:19.781 --> 01:08:27.390
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this opens a door for something more eventually, but I don't like it at the moment.

01:08:28.732 --> 01:08:41.348
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that he is a, I like when he does these good things, and I like when he's the underdog,

01:08:41.328 --> 01:08:44.212
[SPEAKER_02]: how awful he treats women in general.

01:08:44.312 --> 01:08:46.895
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want Buffy to be near that.

01:08:47.035 --> 01:08:57.369
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think that in this moment, it was a, like a sigh of relief appreciation.

01:08:57.890 --> 01:09:02.355
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's how I feel.

01:09:02.836 --> 01:09:06.661
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think on any level, it's anything more calculated than that?

01:09:06.821 --> 01:09:08.263
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there any part of,

01:09:08.851 --> 01:09:11.535
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like, I'm in a relation sort of.

01:09:11.575 --> 01:09:35.635
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, certainly, in a relationship, I, yeah, I think I largely agree because of the lines after of her saying, like, what you did for Don and me, that was actually a real show of love, like that was actually a noble and kind thing to do and what you did with that robot was wrong and messed up.

01:09:35.615 --> 01:09:48.507
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so because she says those things, it does partly feel like a, I'm going to kiss you as like a thank you as a, like, because she knows he's going to know she's not buffy bot.

01:09:48.527 --> 01:09:50.989
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like she's trying to like get one over on him there.

01:09:51.089 --> 01:09:55.033
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more so a, this kiss is is real.

01:09:55.473 --> 01:09:57.455
[SPEAKER_01]: Those kisses you had with the buffy bot.

01:09:57.855 --> 01:09:59.677
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not real at all.

01:09:59.837 --> 01:10:01.178
[SPEAKER_01]: They were a manipulation.

01:10:01.258 --> 01:10:02.599
[SPEAKER_01]: They were, you know, disgusting.

01:10:02.619 --> 01:10:05.402
[SPEAKER_01]: They were programmed.

01:10:05.382 --> 01:10:22.546
[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of the love aspect of her feeling love, I do think there is an aspect of like she is going through so many emotions right now and there is so much on her plate and we've talked so much at length about like how much Buffy is having to juggle and manage.

01:10:23.186 --> 01:10:29.415
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think for her to be able to breathe a sigh of relief that somebody else had her back.

01:10:29.395 --> 01:10:40.347
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that the Scooby's don't, of course, they always do, but this was just one thing that while she was away, like, didn't get fucked up that he had her back that he didn't give them up.

01:10:41.248 --> 01:10:50.839
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it is something that she like very much appreciates and wanted to show that appreciation in a way that spike would like, right?

01:10:50.859 --> 01:10:53.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we, we know she knows his feelings for her.

01:10:53.602 --> 01:10:56.365
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it can be like,

01:10:56.918 --> 01:11:02.349
[SPEAKER_01]: both, but I don't think she kissed him as like a, I am romantically interested in you.

01:11:02.369 --> 01:11:11.767
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was more so because she knew it was something he would like, and she wanted to give that to him because of what he did for her and gone.

01:11:12.970 --> 01:11:14.633
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was manipulation though.

01:11:14.693 --> 01:11:17.138
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, and maybe it was, but like,

01:11:18.451 --> 01:11:20.475
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't know.

01:11:20.896 --> 01:11:25.765
[SPEAKER_01]: I just I think if Buffy was trying to manipulate spike I think it may be a little bit more over than that.

01:11:26.105 --> 01:11:31.776
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's really in Buffy's like have we seen anything like them, Buffy's character.

01:11:31.796 --> 01:11:35.422
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you have I think of anything.

01:11:35.442 --> 01:11:40.071
[SPEAKER_04]: I was I was honestly I was just thinking about it because.

01:11:40.810 --> 01:11:44.842
[SPEAKER_04]: I do think this is like the first sort of thing she's like positively.

01:11:45.102 --> 01:11:50.036
[SPEAKER_04]: She's basically never said a nice thing to spike in their entire interactions.

01:11:50.297 --> 01:11:55.191
[SPEAKER_04]: This is like the one time she's like giving him some positive reinforcement and

01:11:56.318 --> 01:11:57.721
[SPEAKER_04]: This is kind of where way of thinking about it.

01:11:57.741 --> 01:12:01.289
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you think of spike as like being trained, just got the chip.

01:12:01.930 --> 01:12:03.273
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think like you're right.

01:12:03.313 --> 01:12:14.918
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that like that sort of thing, I mean, knowing spike and a little bit of spikes past the way for spike to actually become good and

01:12:14.898 --> 01:12:42.373
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it is like positive reinforcement like I think it is like if he gets the Cookie the treat then he will be motivated to keep doing good and I think that we Kind of saw that with him like at one point when he first got the chip of like oh like I can kill demons and then I am like

01:12:42.353 --> 01:12:43.874
[SPEAKER_02]: feel like I did good job.

01:12:44.135 --> 01:12:46.757
[SPEAKER_02]: And because I do good job, I want to do more good job.

01:12:46.817 --> 01:13:03.131
[SPEAKER_02]: But because of how serving bad decisions on his part, but also how people treat him, he gets, you know, he feels that rejection and then he pushes away and then he does bad things.

01:13:03.271 --> 01:13:10.858
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's, it's very much like he's dog, but also, I don't know, I feel like sometimes,

01:13:10.838 --> 01:13:16.125
[SPEAKER_02]: sometimes people can be a lot like dogs and how you train their behavior.

01:13:16.966 --> 01:13:19.089
[SPEAKER_04]: So I mean he is evil.

01:13:19.149 --> 01:13:24.436
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if he didn't have the chip in his head he'd be I think he'd be killing he'd be out killing people.

01:13:24.476 --> 01:13:31.044
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that was my take away from from crush like when like when your silhouette was around he was okay with people dying.

01:13:32.126 --> 01:13:34.669
[SPEAKER_02]: But he didn't feel good about it.

01:13:34.649 --> 01:13:51.886
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when he was again like when he he still was like, hey, like I will kill Jerusalem for like, I don't know, like I think that he's I think he's on the path to being good like actually good.

01:13:51.907 --> 01:13:53.991
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that he just

01:13:54.427 --> 01:13:59.516
[SPEAKER_02]: needs, I don't know, I think he does need the positive reinforcement.

01:13:59.576 --> 01:14:09.955
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like faith in a way because because of how everybody treated faith and how like she wasn't accepted,

01:14:10.745 --> 01:14:12.126
[SPEAKER_02]: was kind of like fuck this.

01:14:12.387 --> 01:14:13.888
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be like bad.

01:14:13.908 --> 01:14:14.969
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do bad things.

01:14:15.590 --> 01:14:27.581
[SPEAKER_02]: I still think that if people like fluffy in particular was more accepting a faith and brought her in war and gave her the positive reinforcement.

01:14:27.701 --> 01:14:35.068
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, in my opinion, if faith would have gone the path that she wound up going down.

01:14:35.148 --> 01:14:35.509
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:14:35.549 --> 01:14:36.870
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, Jess?

01:14:37.728 --> 01:14:54.707
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I definitely think that if I think a lot of it is environmental right like we saw us bike was treated when he was a human and like that certainly influenced how he ended up acting as a vampire obviously being a vampire changes your

01:14:55.210 --> 01:15:02.580
[SPEAKER_01]: not personality like anatomy in a way that you like you revel and being evil more you don't have the moral quandaries that humans do.

01:15:04.162 --> 01:15:10.971
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, I agree Tom that without the chip, he certainly would still be killing no problem.

01:15:11.471 --> 01:15:15.597
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the chip that is made it impossible, so he's had to adapt.

01:15:16.218 --> 01:15:22.686
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he always had a little bit of a fixation

01:15:22.953 --> 01:15:25.777
[SPEAKER_01]: He likes they're back and forth, he likes the chemistry they have.

01:15:25.797 --> 01:15:30.703
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think he likes the idea of a person who like, this shouldn't work, right?

01:15:30.764 --> 01:15:31.965
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's supposed to hate me.

01:15:32.085 --> 01:15:33.187
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm supposed to hate her.

01:15:33.247 --> 01:15:36.211
[SPEAKER_01]: He's killed two other slayers.

01:15:36.291 --> 01:15:39.475
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he has a fixation with slayers in general.

01:15:39.896 --> 01:15:43.821
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've talked a lot about like, okay, the opposite of love isn't hate.

01:15:43.861 --> 01:15:44.562
[SPEAKER_01]: It's apathy.

01:15:45.003 --> 01:15:46.885
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, love and hate are closer together.

01:15:46.945 --> 01:15:48.167
[SPEAKER_01]: And

01:15:48.147 --> 01:15:48.708
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:15:48.728 --> 01:15:49.669
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.

01:15:50.149 --> 01:16:00.961
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how the show could ever resolve removing the chip from Spike's head not having him immediately resort to who he was.

01:16:01.041 --> 01:16:04.185
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it would take a lot of character development to get there.

01:16:04.205 --> 01:16:06.928
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if the show even wants to do that.

01:16:07.649 --> 01:16:12.134
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if we didn't inevitably get a spuffy thing.

01:16:12.294 --> 01:16:16.939
[SPEAKER_04]: Even if it was

01:16:17.189 --> 01:16:41.936
[SPEAKER_04]: What would for the two of you, what do you think would need to happen for you to, what do you, I mean, would you buy that from, from Buffet or what would need to happen for you to, to buy that, because I see, I think the idea that Spike would fall in love with Buffet is, makes a lot of sense narratively, and I think it's a pretty compelling story, but the question is, is it like a good, Buffet story for to get involved in Spike is there?

01:16:42.576 --> 01:16:45.880
[SPEAKER_04]: What, what, what does the character of Buffet actually get out of?

01:16:47.125 --> 01:16:52.391
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it I think for her to actually like act on anything with spike.

01:16:52.511 --> 01:17:04.826
[SPEAKER_01]: I almost feel like it would have to be Because of like not being drunk but like being altered in some way that where is like She acts out of the norm.

01:17:05.467 --> 01:17:05.887
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:17:06.008 --> 01:17:08.931
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it would take so much unless he like

01:17:09.974 --> 01:17:14.078
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the sacrifice himself for dawn, maybe, like, it would take so much.

01:17:15.459 --> 01:17:18.923
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see it happening just based off of like desire.

01:17:18.943 --> 01:17:31.776
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, you know, I think that she could probably get to finding him hot faster than falling in love with him.

01:17:31.836 --> 01:17:37.021
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that it could be more of a physical thing initially.

01:17:37.061 --> 01:17:39.103
[SPEAKER_02]: And then

01:17:39.083 --> 01:17:39.764
[SPEAKER_02]: love.

01:17:40.364 --> 01:17:40.885
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:17:40.905 --> 01:17:55.021
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I once again, like I get maybe him get her gained to know him more and like understand like his background, but I don't know.

01:17:55.121 --> 01:17:59.265
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, so like we know that she didn't really love Riley, right?

01:17:59.285 --> 01:18:00.307
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she didn't say it.

01:18:00.347 --> 01:18:03.550
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she like was getting there and she needed more time.

01:18:03.570 --> 01:18:07.875
[SPEAKER_02]: And if it wasn't for all these other factors, she would have gotten there a lot sooner.

01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:23.991
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she allowed herself to get there because like the show is basically said like after Angel she wasn't she wasn't up for it And so with with Riley she like she entered that relationship with like her guard up

01:18:24.072 --> 01:18:50.502
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like, and we're, I mean, like do I think that she was like in love with Angel, I kind of think it's more of like your first love like maybe it's not it's like a young love like do I think that like I think that like her true if she does get into a true love relationship like it's one of those things where she's like

01:18:51.258 --> 01:19:01.789
[SPEAKER_02]: like you love them, and you think that you love them, but do you really love them because or is it just like you're young and it's like exciting and it's passionate, you know what I mean?

01:19:02.330 --> 01:19:15.303
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you find like the person that you're meant to be with, like, it's just like on so many like a higher level of love, maybe I'm reading it incorrectly, and they really did.

01:19:15.403 --> 01:19:17.265
[SPEAKER_02]: But like honestly, like,

01:19:17.785 --> 01:19:21.660
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like, how did they really like know each other that well?

01:19:21.961 --> 01:19:27.120
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like, but anyway, I think that for Spike

01:19:27.590 --> 01:19:53.918
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can only see it starting with passion, maybe like he she gets to know him better, maybe he keeps doing good, but like I just I can't like imagine a world, it feels like fan service honestly more than anything else of how and why they would get there, which I think like my because I fully can understand and buy in why like,

01:19:53.898 --> 01:20:03.013
[SPEAKER_02]: people are very excited about their chemistry, like I think it stems from that episode where

01:20:04.310 --> 01:20:13.562
[SPEAKER_02]: Willow did that spell and fucks everything up like normal and then like it's the you know the episode where like buffies like on her lab We're getting married.

01:20:13.582 --> 01:20:23.955
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I think it stems from that and Also like they're bickering so like I can understand why like the fandom it's just like

01:20:24.188 --> 01:20:42.417
[SPEAKER_02]: very much like I understand why the fandom's like into it because it feels very phantomy like if you've been a part of any fandom like you know how people fans like slap these two people together and like even if they work with your family.

01:20:42.397 --> 01:20:44.120
[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what I was about to say.

01:20:44.140 --> 01:20:56.538
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like there's no world where Draco and Hermione should or would ever be together, but it feels like very fancy to entertain that.

01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:59.022
[SPEAKER_02]: And I can

01:20:59.002 --> 01:21:07.257
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I just like, it's going to be a really tough time for me to not feel, I mean, things could happen.

01:21:07.437 --> 01:21:11.745
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I'm not saying that like, it's, I'm, it's, it could, I can never be into it.

01:21:11.785 --> 01:21:18.197
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, I just, I, the way that I, I'm somewhat, I'm blabbing, just how many of the shut the fuck up.

01:21:18.818 --> 01:21:19.499
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm blabbing.

01:21:19.599 --> 01:21:20.621
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything you're saying is good.

01:21:20.781 --> 01:21:21.803
[SPEAKER_04]: I like,

01:21:21.783 --> 01:21:30.917
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree that the fans wanted this before the writers showed any interest in going there.

01:21:31.378 --> 01:21:34.443
[SPEAKER_04]: The fans have been talking about it since season two.

01:21:34.523 --> 01:21:37.868
[SPEAKER_04]: The moment the people showed up, the fans were

01:21:37.848 --> 01:22:01.915
[SPEAKER_01]: people people love to ship enemies right like enemies to lovers is a very common trope so it's unsurprising I think yeah, I think Sarah the problem is what you're saying in terms of it feeling fan servicy it's because the fans wanted it before the writers started wanting it so it feels like it's a gift to the fans versus like something that has come up naturally.

01:22:01.895 --> 01:22:08.742
[SPEAKER_02]: How are we going to make it, like Tom said, make it make sense for Buffy to be into Spike?

01:22:08.943 --> 01:22:14.108
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I hope that the writers do a good job.

01:22:14.208 --> 01:22:17.292
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't really think of like what exactly that will be.

01:22:17.312 --> 01:22:27.803
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like I just feel like I just, if it happens, I hope that it feels earned.

01:22:28.304 --> 01:22:31.227
[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope that it's not like,

01:22:31.763 --> 01:22:35.588
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's slap these two people together, because everybody wants it.

01:22:36.369 --> 01:22:45.762
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, especially because I'm not into the enemies to leverage trope, especially in the situation as well.

01:22:46.323 --> 01:22:56.016
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sure for a ton of people at works, and I'm happy for you, but I would not wanna live in an enemy's to leverage trope.

01:22:56.036 --> 01:23:00.522
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want that for myself, and I don't want that for my friends,

01:23:00.502 --> 01:23:04.606
[SPEAKER_04]: It's definitely not something that should happen in the real world.

01:23:04.726 --> 01:23:09.170
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's something that we kind of allow ourselves to explore and fiction and fantasy shows.

01:23:09.530 --> 01:23:10.511
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I ask those, sir?

01:23:11.151 --> 01:23:13.854
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think they've earned the spike side of it?

01:23:13.874 --> 01:23:20.720
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, do you feel like spike falling, having this crush on Buffy, do you feel like that has been natural like the writers have done that?

01:23:20.740 --> 01:23:23.022
[SPEAKER_04]: Or do you feel like that's also just fan service?

01:23:23.602 --> 01:23:30.508
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I actually do think it works for me and I think it's

01:23:30.860 --> 01:23:36.677
[SPEAKER_02]: It it it works because it's like a fascination thing.

01:23:37.178 --> 01:23:39.565
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that he actually is in love with her.

01:23:39.886 --> 01:23:40.628
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing.

01:23:40.709 --> 01:23:42.253
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that it's like

01:23:43.550 --> 01:23:51.140
[SPEAKER_02]: an infatuation and obsession because like how much does he really know Buffy or understand her?

01:23:51.180 --> 01:24:06.520
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that he probably thinks that he knows her and understands her, but I think that but I also think that like they're doing the they've been doing the work for like a season.

01:24:06.500 --> 01:24:13.028
[SPEAKER_02]: or so of like leading this up and drew so that she saw it before.

01:24:13.249 --> 01:24:24.283
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we've seen it since basically at the end of season two where he could have gone her killed, but he worked with her.

01:24:25.044 --> 01:24:33.975
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's kind of pays off there where like, you know, like his intentions are always a little like

01:24:35.862 --> 01:24:45.117
[SPEAKER_02]: in a little skewed, like he is very self-serving and takes, you know, like he's not, it's not black on my frame.

01:24:45.137 --> 01:24:48.342
[SPEAKER_02]: So like I think it's more so worse for him.

01:24:48.362 --> 01:24:58.719
[SPEAKER_02]: And once again, like I think that from what we've seen in his past, it makes a lot of sense for him to fall in love with somebody that doesn't give him the time of day.

01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:01.363
[SPEAKER_02]: We literally saw that with that,

01:25:01.546 --> 01:25:02.047
[SPEAKER_02]: that girl.

01:25:02.127 --> 01:25:03.490
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't they he wrote the poems for.

01:25:03.530 --> 01:25:04.872
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember her name.

01:25:04.892 --> 01:25:05.554
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know her name.

01:25:05.574 --> 01:25:06.716
[SPEAKER_02]: She was from Gray's Anatomy though.

01:25:07.918 --> 01:25:09.261
[SPEAKER_02]: Who isn't from Gray's Anatomy?

01:25:09.601 --> 01:25:11.204
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's that.

01:25:11.224 --> 01:25:19.420
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think like it's, but once again, it's just like I think that it's like kind of like a bad habit of his to.

01:25:20.041 --> 01:25:27.793
[SPEAKER_02]: taking an infatuation with a woman that is kind of mean to her and to him and doesn't want to give him the time of day.

01:25:27.813 --> 01:25:30.857
[SPEAKER_02]: And ultimately, humiliates him.

01:25:30.897 --> 01:25:33.361
[SPEAKER_02]: Drew was like, not like that.

01:25:34.162 --> 01:25:36.105
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know.

01:25:36.826 --> 01:25:37.247
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:25:38.689 --> 01:25:40.111
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, was she mean?

01:25:40.411 --> 01:25:40.852
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:25:41.313 --> 01:25:44.918
[SPEAKER_01]: Was she mean to say he was more mean to her than she was to him?

01:25:45.472 --> 01:25:45.813
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

01:25:45.833 --> 01:25:47.556
[SPEAKER_04]: Just be on end with the chaos demon.

01:25:48.017 --> 01:25:48.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:25:48.878 --> 01:25:51.022
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in more on-screen that we.

01:25:51.042 --> 01:25:51.143
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:25:51.163 --> 01:25:52.144
[SPEAKER_02]: But she was mad.

01:25:52.425 --> 01:25:52.525
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:25:52.545 --> 01:25:58.617
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the thing was, was that like, he got frustrated with her because she was ill.

01:25:59.057 --> 01:26:03.806
[SPEAKER_02]: I forget like what the illness was, but wasn't she ill when we first met her?

01:26:03.826 --> 01:26:05.109
[SPEAKER_02]: He was in a wheelchair for a bit.

01:26:05.209 --> 01:26:05.690
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.

01:26:05.710 --> 01:26:08.475
[SPEAKER_02]: That was after the fact.

01:26:08.978 --> 01:26:36.690
[SPEAKER_02]: somewhere in Europe they had they had an encounter and she got like injured and yeah because she wasn't at her full power when we first meet Drew and he was annoyed at her during those times and then he got put into the wheelchair and then felt very like impotent which was like kind of like a foreshadowing of what actually happens to him later and then she had to like pick up the slack

01:26:36.670 --> 01:26:37.752
[SPEAKER_02]: helped, Buffy.

01:26:37.792 --> 01:26:40.117
[SPEAKER_02]: Then she was like, that's disgusting.

01:26:40.197 --> 01:26:41.640
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you help the slayer?

01:26:41.700 --> 01:26:42.662
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not attracted to you.

01:26:42.722 --> 01:26:43.644
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to cheat on you.

01:26:43.684 --> 01:26:48.493
[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like, but he was very dismissed.

01:26:48.533 --> 01:26:52.401
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I don't think I liked him in the first place because he was so like.

01:26:52.381 --> 01:26:58.190
[SPEAKER_02]: dismissive of her and like her dolls and her like her little fantasies.

01:26:58.550 --> 01:27:03.557
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's what like I remember like being urged by how he treated Drew in season two.

01:27:03.918 --> 01:27:10.788
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's been a thing and it's, and when he's not involved with women, I'm like, I love everything that he's, I like a lot of what he's doing.

01:27:10.828 --> 01:27:11.589
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's funny.

01:27:11.649 --> 01:27:13.512
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I like him being the underdog.

01:27:13.492 --> 01:27:14.514
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:27:14.934 --> 01:27:15.415
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

01:27:15.435 --> 01:27:17.218
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there anything else from this episode just?

01:27:17.939 --> 01:27:18.220
[SPEAKER_02]: No.

01:27:18.861 --> 01:27:19.181
[SPEAKER_02]: No.

01:27:19.202 --> 01:27:19.823
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:27:19.843 --> 01:27:19.943
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:27:20.363 --> 01:27:27.195
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I can just spend the next 30 minutes about like how spike just drives me up the wall crazy sometimes, but it's fine.

01:27:27.575 --> 01:27:29.278
[SPEAKER_02]: We should talk about courties corner.

01:27:29.519 --> 01:27:30.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do.

01:27:30.220 --> 01:27:31.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do courties corner.

01:27:31.262 --> 01:27:36.951
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched Angel, the episode is dead and Sarah, did you skip this one?

01:27:36.931 --> 01:27:37.932
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't.

01:27:37.992 --> 01:27:38.914
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched this week.

01:27:39.755 --> 01:27:48.947
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I know who the AJ had alluded that I think one or two maybe characters leave the show.

01:27:49.728 --> 01:27:56.917
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know one of them because our guy, one handed Lindsay leaves town leaves LA.

01:27:57.017 --> 01:27:58.459
[SPEAKER_01]: He works at the lawyer place.

01:27:58.519 --> 01:27:59.140
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a bad guy.

01:27:59.320 --> 01:27:59.500
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:28:00.161 --> 01:28:01.723
[SPEAKER_01]: So.

01:28:01.703 --> 01:28:18.835
[SPEAKER_01]: it's it's a song it's a what is it called what's the what's this something song saw swansong swansong for Lindsay this episode he we spent a lot of time with Lindsay this episode I don't know it's just at one point Lindsay actually sang a song so I thought maybe

01:28:18.815 --> 01:28:22.562
[SPEAKER_01]: the whole episode is basically like, don't you feel bad for Lindsey?

01:28:22.602 --> 01:28:26.550
[SPEAKER_01]: He only has one hand, and then Angel smashed his plastic hands.

01:28:26.931 --> 01:28:36.570
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the company is like, well, we've, don't worry, we got you a doctor's appointment two day to give you a hand transplant, which apparently

01:28:36.550 --> 01:28:41.123
[SPEAKER_01]: is so easy and quick and no big deal that he's able to like play a guitar that I very next day.

01:28:41.143 --> 01:28:51.792
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but the problem is Sarah, do you want your new hand if it is somebody else's hand that is like still alive and is making it right kill kill kill and stab your other hand.

01:28:51.772 --> 01:29:01.824
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is the Taylor's oldest time of getting any transplants by somebody who is evil and then you are taking a go over by the evil.

01:29:02.706 --> 01:29:08.693
[SPEAKER_02]: I know this story, so he has an evil hand and the evil hand he wants him to kill.

01:29:09.093 --> 01:29:10.015
[SPEAKER_02]: And right, yes.

01:29:10.495 --> 01:29:12.097
[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, and here's the thing, though.

01:29:12.317 --> 01:29:14.921
[SPEAKER_01]: So he, of course, he can play the guitar.

01:29:15.161 --> 01:29:17.184
[SPEAKER_01]: He can sing, where's he gonna go?

01:29:17.604 --> 01:29:20.007
[SPEAKER_01]: The karaoke bar.

01:29:19.987 --> 01:29:20.608
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes there.

01:29:20.728 --> 01:29:22.491
[SPEAKER_01]: He sings for his life.

01:29:23.032 --> 01:29:27.740
[SPEAKER_01]: Incom, Corey's crew, the Quarty and the gang, they fill up.

01:29:28.101 --> 01:29:36.635
[SPEAKER_04]: Poor Quarty's been having this vision of this guy, stabbing his own eye and she cordially is like so traumatized in this episode.

01:29:37.517 --> 01:29:40.662
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is interesting, Tom, because we've never been told before.

01:29:40.742 --> 01:29:45.150
[SPEAKER_01]: We know Quarty like faints are like falls over when she gets these visions, right?

01:29:45.130 --> 01:29:53.377
[SPEAKER_01]: However, it now seems as though she is in pain from the moment the vision happens, until it gets resolved.

01:29:53.698 --> 01:29:57.541
[SPEAKER_01]: So until Angel and Crusade the day, she is in pain.

01:29:57.881 --> 01:30:05.809
[SPEAKER_01]: So she is like very much struggling this entire episode because it takes them a long time to figure out exactly what's going on.

01:30:06.429 --> 01:30:15.137
[SPEAKER_01]: And that left me wondering, obviously Tom can't answer this, but like I'm like

01:30:15.117 --> 01:30:26.835
[SPEAKER_01]: They just kept bringing up like how much pain she's in, how difficult it is for her like angel orders every possible option for lunch because he is a terrible fucking friend and has no idea what kind of food she likes.

01:30:27.676 --> 01:30:36.450
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets her like a roast beef sandwich or turkey sandwich of vegetarian option like all this fucking food because he has no idea what she eats but fucking weirdo angel.

01:30:37.190 --> 01:30:39.492
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he just gave him the whole long.

01:30:39.532 --> 01:30:46.919
[SPEAKER_02]: We just complimented Willow and the Scoobies for getting buffy every single snack possible.

01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:51.964
[SPEAKER_01]: But he literally says, I bought all of this because I forgot what your favorite meal is.

01:30:52.485 --> 01:30:53.245
[SPEAKER_01]: Day to that too.

01:30:53.265 --> 01:30:54.527
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what you want.

01:30:54.567 --> 01:31:00.172
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't know what you would want because you're grieving is different than we don't know what you're thinking.

01:31:00.212 --> 01:31:01.013
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of kind.

01:31:01.033 --> 01:31:01.733
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:31:01.753 --> 01:31:02.955
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you like.

01:31:02.995 --> 01:31:06.538
[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to be kind, but I think it's just I don't like him and I don't want to like him.

01:31:06.518 --> 01:31:10.261
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, what did I want to say?

01:31:10.301 --> 01:31:14.765
[SPEAKER_04]: This is my evidence that spike program the Jess bought to hate.

01:31:14.785 --> 01:31:14.965
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:31:15.366 --> 01:31:16.347
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:31:16.567 --> 01:31:17.688
[SPEAKER_01]: Angels bloody stupid.

01:31:18.248 --> 01:31:19.790
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.

01:31:19.810 --> 01:31:24.894
[SPEAKER_01]: So then when they go to the karaoke bar, they realize because of the karaoke host dude.

01:31:25.175 --> 01:31:32.861
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you all have to work together because it turns out the guy who's stabbing his own eye, is stabbing his own eye because it's someone else's eye because he also got the transplant.

01:31:32.881 --> 01:31:34.703
[SPEAKER_01]: And it turns out

01:31:34.683 --> 01:31:50.783
[SPEAKER_01]: that they're taking people that are on parole from jail and they're taking body snatching and they're keeping these people alive and like tanks and the guy that was saying kill kill kill with the hand, it's because he wanted them to kill him because he was in like so much pain.

01:31:51.183 --> 01:31:56.590
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think that this makes a lot of sense because there was a time in my life where I was a

01:31:57.565 --> 01:32:05.737
[SPEAKER_02]: afraid of going to thrift stores and buying things from thrift stores, because I was worried that the items that I would purchase would be haunted.

01:32:05.777 --> 01:32:10.764
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that this is a very valid and interesting thing.

01:32:10.804 --> 01:32:12.727
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes sense.

01:32:12.747 --> 01:32:13.669
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes sense.

01:32:13.689 --> 01:32:14.410
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what I'm saying.

01:32:14.430 --> 01:32:14.750
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:32:15.451 --> 01:32:20.198
[SPEAKER_04]: See, the key to Sarah enjoying Angel is her not actually watching Angel, but

01:32:20.178 --> 01:32:24.586
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I'm still waiting for a five minute recap of it guys.

01:32:24.626 --> 01:32:29.596
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a reason why I will feel very soon.

01:32:29.897 --> 01:32:31.460
[SPEAKER_02]: Why I can't stay awake.

01:32:31.580 --> 01:32:34.606
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a hundred percent angel.

01:32:34.626 --> 01:32:37.671
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say it's some percent that it's some percent.

01:32:37.892 --> 01:32:40.877
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can't keep awake for anything.

01:32:41.098 --> 01:32:42.220
[SPEAKER_02]: So.

01:32:42.200 --> 01:32:44.024
[SPEAKER_01]: So we be a must think girl.

01:32:44.605 --> 01:32:46.068
[SPEAKER_01]: So Lindsay, sorry.

01:32:46.108 --> 01:32:56.148
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are like you have to work together now and meanwhile Lindsay is like so disturbed by that like because he hasn't he because he just bad things all the time, but this is too far they have taken it too far.

01:32:56.509 --> 01:32:58.032
[SPEAKER_01]: So he

01:32:58.012 --> 01:33:02.037
[SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly that one's again a tail is all this time.

01:33:02.097 --> 01:33:07.283
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't affect and I don't care about it unless it affects me now It's really now care now on a care.

01:33:07.303 --> 01:33:23.462
[SPEAKER_01]: So he he works with angel to find the parole officer guy That's how they figure out about the people being taken and then he also because him in that lady Lila You know his like partner lady I'm at the law firm are both up for a promotion

01:33:23.442 --> 01:33:28.188
[SPEAKER_01]: She has secret files on everyone that she can expose them all.

01:33:28.509 --> 01:33:31.573
[SPEAKER_01]: And he reveals this to the senior partners.

01:33:31.994 --> 01:33:35.038
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, wow, congratulations, Lindsey.

01:33:35.318 --> 01:33:36.239
[SPEAKER_01]: You got their promotion.

01:33:36.300 --> 01:33:38.082
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, yeah, fuck your promotion.

01:33:38.162 --> 01:33:38.723
[SPEAKER_01]: I quit.

01:33:39.444 --> 01:33:42.087
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, smacks Laila on the ass on the way out.

01:33:42.127 --> 01:33:44.130
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I'm sitting on his like evil hand.

01:33:44.871 --> 01:33:48.676
[SPEAKER_04]: I think more, he does grab a gun and start firing at his boss.

01:33:48.736 --> 01:33:49.498
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about that.

01:33:49.538 --> 01:33:51.340
[SPEAKER_01]: He does do that.

01:33:51.320 --> 01:33:52.582
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:33:52.602 --> 01:33:53.143
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:33:53.184 --> 01:33:53.985
[SPEAKER_02]: Very evil.

01:33:54.085 --> 01:34:02.621
[SPEAKER_02]: You would think that the evil people would like, Lila, do you know things like collecting the bad ones against them?

01:34:02.641 --> 01:34:03.182
[SPEAKER_02]: No.

01:34:03.363 --> 01:34:03.543
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:34:03.563 --> 01:34:05.226
[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, we only care.

01:34:05.246 --> 01:34:05.327
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

01:34:05.767 --> 01:34:08.232
[SPEAKER_02]: About morals and values.

01:34:08.332 --> 01:34:08.853
[SPEAKER_02]: So then.

01:34:08.893 --> 01:34:09.835
[SPEAKER_02]: If I choose.

01:34:09.815 --> 01:34:12.700
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because then he's like, uh, I quit mother fuckers.

01:34:12.980 --> 01:34:16.667
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like, well, congrats, Lila, you got a promotion.

01:34:16.727 --> 01:34:17.127
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:34:17.148 --> 01:34:24.240
[SPEAKER_01]: And Lindsay is like, okay, I'm leaving LA time to hit the road and like angels there to see him off with his evil hand.

01:34:25.301 --> 01:34:27.385
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he still has the evil hand.

01:34:29.491 --> 01:34:31.354
[SPEAKER_04]: It's no longer evil though.

01:34:31.374 --> 01:34:36.002
[SPEAKER_01]: I think because they killed the guy they killed the guy belong to so it's it's been un-evaled See-evaled.

01:34:36.243 --> 01:34:38.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, oh, oh, okay.

01:34:38.707 --> 01:34:46.521
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and that's the stats it Lindsay's off the show Well, he's gonna talk about how he leaves what what's what's on his car

01:34:46.501 --> 01:34:58.596
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, on his way out, Angel puts like a cop suck bumper sticker on his car, so that he'll get pulled over, which I was like, Hell yeah, he can't bud, good job, but that sticker on his car.

01:34:58.877 --> 01:35:05.405
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Angel's been petty this entire episode because Lindsay sang really well in the karaoke bar.

01:35:05.485 --> 01:35:07.227
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that was so funny.

01:35:07.595 --> 01:35:11.080
[SPEAKER_04]: Because they were like, ah, we need to, how do we figure this out?

01:35:11.180 --> 01:35:15.225
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess I need to sing and every what and everyone in the office was like, no, we don't know.

01:35:15.245 --> 01:35:15.746
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no.

01:35:15.766 --> 01:35:16.147
[SPEAKER_04]: He sucks.

01:35:16.367 --> 01:35:17.328
[SPEAKER_04]: So much it's singing.

01:35:17.789 --> 01:35:26.060
[SPEAKER_01]: What did he just just trashing Lindsey singing, even though the rest of the crew was all like, you have the voice of an angel, even though they know he's evil.

01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:26.941
[SPEAKER_01]: What did he sing?

01:35:26.961 --> 01:35:27.983
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:35:28.003 --> 01:35:28.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Some song.

01:35:29.164 --> 01:35:30.286
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know.

01:35:30.626 --> 01:35:31.948
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a country issue, yeah.

01:35:32.452 --> 01:35:34.756
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but again, he just had a hand transplant.

01:35:35.316 --> 01:35:37.500
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not worry about the nerve's nothing.

01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:38.882
[SPEAKER_01]: No, perfectly fine to play a guitar.

01:35:40.705 --> 01:35:42.928
[SPEAKER_04]: So it was by an evil shaman.

01:35:42.948 --> 01:35:43.630
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it was.

01:35:43.690 --> 01:35:56.029
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

01:35:56.009 --> 01:36:00.054
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a doctor, but there was also an evil shot in the surgery room.

01:36:00.094 --> 01:36:03.998
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was very funny that when he was like surprised hand surgery today.

01:36:04.018 --> 01:36:06.241
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a little broke.

01:36:06.722 --> 01:36:07.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Dang, that's quick.

01:36:07.963 --> 01:36:08.624
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

01:36:09.525 --> 01:36:10.206
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to get in early.

01:36:10.386 --> 01:36:12.088
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was what happened on Angel.

01:36:12.428 --> 01:36:17.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Angel being petty against Lindsay was one of my favorite bits of the the whole episode.

01:36:17.254 --> 01:36:19.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like seeing cordy not feel well.

01:36:19.837 --> 01:36:23.123
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I guess Angel was nice and got her food even though he was really good.

01:36:23.143 --> 01:36:25.688
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I, you should know my comfort food for besties.

01:36:25.728 --> 01:36:26.910
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you should know what I want.

01:36:27.331 --> 01:36:31.177
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that we would be getting rid of Cordelia, but is there?

01:36:31.197 --> 01:36:31.959
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope not.

01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:35.706
[SPEAKER_02]: Cordelia would try to give up her.

01:36:35.866 --> 01:36:37.609
[SPEAKER_02]: No, give up her powers.

01:36:39.479 --> 01:36:40.681
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, yes.

01:36:40.961 --> 01:36:46.870
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think if Cory Dilia doesn't leave the show, which I don't think she will, because we haven't seen enough bad haircuts yet.

01:36:47.251 --> 01:36:50.636
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I suppose she's literally the only woman on that show.

01:36:50.656 --> 01:36:51.517
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

01:36:51.537 --> 01:36:56.104
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think this is going to be a storyline of Cordelia's in pain.

01:36:56.184 --> 01:36:59.108
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, something needs to change.

01:36:59.168 --> 01:37:01.572
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we need to do something about this.

01:37:02.581 --> 01:37:03.842
[SPEAKER_01]: And she got headaches, man.

01:37:04.583 --> 01:37:09.809
[SPEAKER_01]: And they talked about how hedgehog guy didn't have to worry about this because he was like a hedgehog.

01:37:09.889 --> 01:37:10.610
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was telling.

01:37:10.850 --> 01:37:12.532
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I wanted, I was about to ask.

01:37:12.732 --> 01:37:14.594
[SPEAKER_02]: I was about to ask, I forgot his name.

01:37:14.635 --> 01:37:21.322
[SPEAKER_02]: He was Irish, Doyle, Doyle did not have to deal with the headaches.

01:37:21.622 --> 01:37:24.105
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think his he was not human.

01:37:24.185 --> 01:37:26.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it didn't affect his brain in the same way.

01:37:26.167 --> 01:37:28.470
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe he just had hedgehoginess that helped.

01:37:28.535 --> 01:37:34.529
[SPEAKER_04]: He still had headaches, but it was easier for him because he was half team stronger.

01:37:35.090 --> 01:37:37.375
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he was a man, just kidding.

01:37:37.535 --> 01:37:40.502
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think demon nut.

01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:44.042
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, Tom, I have to ask you a question.

01:37:44.643 --> 01:37:58.138
[SPEAKER_01]: When you listen to like podcasts and stuff, I found out the other day that like target ads are like very strange because my husband was watching YouTube and he got a really crazy insane ad.

01:37:58.619 --> 01:38:04.465
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like, you need to put on that jacket to go outside because you're a man and it was like,

01:38:05.997 --> 01:38:25.255
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was an ad for like line sweatshirts or something like it was like some kind of like heavier clothing for like winter and I was like, what is that I have it I must get podcast ads for other podcasts.

01:38:25.336 --> 01:38:34.146
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I could have had a spanish adds to which I think is kind of strange because I'm not anywhere near a border, um, but yeah, anyway, um, that was it.

01:38:34.187 --> 01:38:35.688
[SPEAKER_01]: That was your man.

01:38:35.728 --> 01:38:43.618
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, further record, he is not like he's not like the Joe Rogan podcast or anything like he does.

01:38:43.878 --> 01:38:44.579
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he does.

01:38:44.599 --> 01:38:52.288
[SPEAKER_04]: The number one podcast in the country with a spoon.

01:38:52.268 --> 01:39:04.863
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's a bad thing to listen to enemy territory to understand what other people the other thought of me to listen to.

01:39:05.423 --> 01:39:09.808
[SPEAKER_01]: Next week, we are up to, we're getting so close to the end of the season, holy cow.

01:39:10.349 --> 01:39:20.841
[SPEAKER_01]: Season 5, episode 19, tough love.

01:39:21.496 --> 01:39:23.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see, did you hear that?

01:39:23.543 --> 01:39:24.767
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't hear that.

01:39:24.787 --> 01:39:24.848
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:39:24.868 --> 01:39:25.109
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:39:25.851 --> 01:39:26.052
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:39:26.835 --> 01:39:28.099
[SPEAKER_02]: He did.

01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:28.360
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

01:39:29.163 --> 01:39:30.307
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to meet with someone.

01:39:30.467 --> 01:39:32.113
[SPEAKER_04]: What did you read into that, Jess?

01:39:32.465 --> 01:39:34.649
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be something, it's going to be something big.

01:39:34.669 --> 01:39:35.270
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to happen.

01:39:35.711 --> 01:39:36.071
[SPEAKER_01]: Something big.

01:39:36.131 --> 01:39:36.632
[SPEAKER_04]: Something big.

01:39:37.634 --> 01:39:38.856
[SPEAKER_01]: Not like Joyce.

01:39:38.936 --> 01:39:39.918
[UNKNOWN]: It's big.

01:39:39.938 --> 01:39:40.699
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to happen.

01:39:41.040 --> 01:39:46.088
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Angel is seasoned to episode 19, Belonging, and so you do not need to watch.

01:39:46.149 --> 01:39:46.529
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:39:46.629 --> 01:39:47.892
[SPEAKER_01]: That was so put on.

01:39:48.192 --> 01:39:48.713
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

01:39:48.733 --> 01:39:50.997
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a main angel and you can't convince the other wise.

01:39:51.518 --> 01:39:51.899
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy.

01:39:51.919 --> 01:39:53.441
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a main angel.

01:39:53.501 --> 01:39:54.523
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

01:39:54.503 --> 01:40:14.284
[SPEAKER_01]: But nothing is happening, woohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoohoo

01:40:14.264 --> 01:40:14.885
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:40:14.905 --> 01:40:25.181
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, Sarah, we are eventually going to have to discuss what we're going to do because Angel runs for one season longer than Buffy does, and we're certainly not continuing the podcast that's like an Angel-only podcast.

01:40:25.301 --> 01:40:28.025
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and our lives is what we're going to say.

01:40:28.045 --> 01:40:29.347
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go, it's been decided.

01:40:30.409 --> 01:40:31.931
[SPEAKER_01]: We will die at the end of 2026.

01:40:32.832 --> 01:40:34.154
[SPEAKER_01]: One year folks, it's all you get.

01:40:34.815 --> 01:40:36.598
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's everything.

01:40:37.499 --> 01:40:38.661
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole thing.

01:40:38.881 --> 01:40:39.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Tom?

01:40:39.222 --> 01:40:45.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you as always for coming on not quite as unhinged as your recent appearance on one Disgrabble with podcasts and for that.

01:40:45.957 --> 01:40:49.424
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm quite thankful because Portland is probably still recovering.

01:40:50.166 --> 01:40:51.468
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that she'll ever recover.

01:40:51.488 --> 01:40:52.551
[SPEAKER_04]: She's her favorite show.

01:40:52.571 --> 01:40:55.577
[SPEAKER_04]: She loved that episode She was having fun.

01:40:55.597 --> 01:40:58.243
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, she put it on that she's

01:40:58.223 --> 01:41:02.512
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a patron and I saw her face throughout the entire episode.

01:41:02.953 --> 01:41:06.320
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, when you say that, you probably do need to explain that's not an actual thing that they don't know.

01:41:06.340 --> 01:41:13.515
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

01:41:13.495 --> 01:41:15.157
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's no Patreon.

01:41:15.478 --> 01:41:26.654
[SPEAKER_01]: I just have behind the scenes access and I was able to watch the video version of that recording and poor lindy But go check that podcast out because it was really it was honestly very entertaining and very funny But I just did your plug for you Tom.

01:41:26.694 --> 01:41:27.255
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.

01:41:27.335 --> 01:41:31.400
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you want to explain?

01:41:32.762 --> 01:41:36.027
[SPEAKER_01]: What about you Sarah anything you want to tell the people to check out

01:41:37.407 --> 01:41:37.928
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:41:38.630 --> 01:41:39.151
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, great.

01:41:39.752 --> 01:41:51.720
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, next week we'll be back with some more Buffy and of course some more Angel until then everyone here and it's the lesson.