Episode 06 - The Evidence Tells the Story

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Speaker before we begin, please
be advised that this episode

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contains graphic descriptions of
violence as presented during the

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trial. Please take care while
listening. It's Friday, January

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17, 2025, day five of the trial.
If you've been following along.

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You know that day four of the
trial was brutal. We saw the

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autopsy photos, heard the
forensic details, and imagined

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the unthinkable. As medical
examiner, Dr Steven Cogswell

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walked us through the condition
of Jasmine's body inside that

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suitcase, I didn't have time to
process it in the moment, and I

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didn't want to think about it
after we left the courthouse

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alone in my silent hotel room,
but when my eyes finally closed

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that night, I couldn't think
about anything else during Dr

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cogswell's testimony, when the
pictures of Jasmine's body were

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shown, I made an intentional
decision not to look at the

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features on her face instead
focusing only on her wounds. I'm

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not exactly sure why. Maybe it
was out of respect. Maybe it was

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my way of staying somewhat
detached so that I could do my

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job. I know everyone who sat
through the testimony yesterday

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left the courtroom heavy, not
just by what happened to

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Jasmine, but with the
realization of how intentional

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it all was. Today's details
won't focus on the violence that

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occurred inside of Jason Chen's
apartment. It's about the trail

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he left behind, the fingerprints
the cell phone pings, the

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digital breadcrumbs that tracked
his every move, each piece

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coming together like literal
coordinates on a map, showing us

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not just what happened, but how.
Because evidence tells its own

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story, and today, the evidence
leading us is digital. You

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This is sequestered a juror's
perspective on the murder trial

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for Jasmine. Pace, I'm Sarah,
juror number 11 each episode,

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I'll take you inside the
courtroom, behind the scenes,

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and into the weighty moments of
this trial as we honor Jasmine's

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life and navigate the
complexities of seeking justice,

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let's begin. This is episode
six. The evidence tells the

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story. You

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so before we get into today's
testimony, I wanted to explain

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why keep calling the District
Attorneys General. If you're not

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from Tennessee, it probably
sounds a little strange, but

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here's the deal, and Tennessee
State prosecutors are officially

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titled District Attorney
General. That's why you'll hear

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me say general WAMP or general
Moyle throughout the podcast.

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It's a tradition that dates back
to the earliest days of

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Tennessee's legal system, meant
to emphasize that these

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attorneys represent the entire
state, not just a local

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district, in criminal cases. So
next time you hear me say

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general, think of it as
shorthand for that full title,

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District Attorney General. All
right, let's head back to the

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courtroom. Judge Patterson opens
the morning the way he always

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does, reminding the jury of our
responsibility. No outside

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research, no talking about the
case, no news or social media.

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By now, this ritual feels
familiar, almost automatic. We

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all nod in agreement. He then
lays out our weekend schedule.

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It was the Friday before a
holiday weekend, but no one

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would get that holiday weekend.
Instead, court will be in

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session the following day, even
though it's Saturday, and after

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a quick vote in the jury room
earlier that morning, we all

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agreed to take Sunday off, but
will return to work on Monday,

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despite it being a national
holiday. Martin Luther King, Jr,

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day, another round of nods from
the jury box are acknowledged,

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and with that day five of the
trial was underway. The state

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calls their first witness of the
day, Jennifer moody, a

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fingerprint technician with the
Hamilton County Sheriff's

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Office. Her testimony is quick
and straightforward. She

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explains to the jury how
fingerprints are collected,

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stored and compared. It's not
flashy, but it's foundational,

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setting up the state's next
witness with finesse, every

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smudge and swirl could be a
clue, and Moody's job is to make

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sure those clues get documented
the right way. Next on the stand

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was Lou. David Franklin of the
Chattanooga Police Department

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with years of experience in
fingerprint analysis and

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comparisons, Franklin had built
a reputation as a go to expert

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in this field. From Franklin, we
learned that fingerprints aren't

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just random smudges left behind
on surfaces. They're made up of

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ridges, tiny raised lines on the
surface of our skin, and those

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ridges form distinct patterns
known as loops, arches and

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whorls, unique Ridge patterns
that form while we're still in

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utero, before we ever touch the
world around us. Loops are the

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most common, curving back on
themselves like a river bending

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around a rock. Arches are more
rare, simple wave like patterns

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that rise and fall across the
fingertip whorls are the most

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intricate, spiraling, circular
designs, almost like tiny thumb

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print hurricanes. We all know
that no two fingerprints are

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exactly alike, not even for
identical twins, and once those

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ridges form in utero, they stay
with us for life. We also got a

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primer on how investigators lift
prints from evidence. Sometimes

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they use magnetic powders, which
are fine particles that cling to

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the natural oils left behind by
our fingers. Other times, they

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rely on a chemical process
called cyanoacrylate fuming,

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essentially using super glue
vapor to coat invisible prints,

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making them easier to see and
photograph. It's super sciency

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and a little bit of CSI magic
that turns a fingerprint into

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evidence, and today, that
evidence was about to tell us a

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story. Crime scene investigators
submitted four separate

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fingerprint impressions to
Lieutenant Franklin's unit. The

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first print was found on the
exterior of the front passenger

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door of Jasmine's Chevy Equinox.
At the time, I remember thinking

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this could be a twist. Who did
that print belong to someone

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unexpected, someone connected to
Jason. Turns out the print

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matched a set of known
impressions already in the

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system belonging to a man named
Jim Cooper. We would later learn

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that Jim Cooper was not only a
locksmith, but also a friend of

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the pace family. He's actually
the one who helped tow Jasmine's

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car from 900 mountain creek
road, the spot where her family

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eventually found it back to
their home on the early hours of

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November 27 the other three
prints submitted, two of them

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along with a palm print belong
to investigator Crawford.

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There's a reason for that, and
we'll come back to it later. But

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the most chilling discovery is
the final fingerprint. It was

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found on the outside of the
outermost garbage bag, the third

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and final bag that held
Jasmine's body, and that print

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belonged to Jason Chen.

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The only examinable fingerprints
found on the Toyota were farm

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investigator Crawford and then
the two prints of quality to

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examine from that garbage bag
around the body of Jasmine pace

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were made by WHO,

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made by Jason prints of value,
made by Jason chef.

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The defense tries to poke holes
here. How certain can you really

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be? Could there have been a
mistake, a smudge, a mix up in

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the lab. But Franklin doesn't
budge. He leans into the

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microphone and says, clear as
day Jason Chen made this print.

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Here's latricia Thomas from News
Channel Nine discussing this

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testimony during a break in
court with Chattanooga attorney

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Bill speak.

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This particular fingerprint was
made by the left middle finger

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or left ring finger of Jason
Chen,

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certainly. So fingerprints are
considered unique and and if you

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get complete fingerprints, the
expert would have, would have

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talked about this, there's going
to be so many points that they

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would look for on a fingerprint.
If you just have one or two

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points on a fingerprint they are
similar or matching. That would

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not be enough for a positive
identification. But if you get

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up to 11 or 12 points at that
point, it becomes, it becomes

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what we call match, because of
the uniqueness, just

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mathematically, of having those
fingerprints match. So you know,

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there are, there are
similarities in every

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fingerprint, but when you look
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number of points that that are
matching points is what

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determines the identification of
the individual, and

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that's what we're seeing now
from this Chattanooga Police

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fingerprint supervisor that
testified this morning, and then

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something that I didn't realize
each one of these cases is then

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corroborated by another. Person
that doesn't know what the first

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person came up with, so they
look at the two things again to

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match. And in this case, the
second person also said that he

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believes those fingerprints on
the garbage bag that contain

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Jasmine Pace's body were those
of Jason Chen.

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Fingerprint evidence is
powerful, but digital forensics,

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that's where the case really
starts to close in. Next on the

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stand was investigator Mark
Hamilton, the state's expert in

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cell phone data, GPS tracking
and radio frequency analysis. It

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became immediately clear that
his testimony wasn't supposed to

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happen until after the lunch
break, because instead of a suit

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and tie, Hamilton arrived in
casual office attire, having

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being summoned straight from his
desk at the da s office, I guess

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we were ahead of schedule.
General WAMP made a point to

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mention this, acknowledging his
unexpected wardrobe and maybe

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offering him a little grace to
settle in before facing the

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jury, but before diving into his
qualifications, general WAMP

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addressed something important
head on. She said, you actually

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work for me, don't you? It was
an intentional move designed to

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make sure the jury knew the
facts, Hamilton works directly

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under District Attorney General
Cody WAMP. The subtext was

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clear, this was not a secret,
and you should know about it,

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but WAMP didn't just rely on
their working relationship to

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establish his credibility.
Instead, she laid out his

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decades long career in digital
forensics, emphasizing his deep

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expertise in tracking cell data,
which is how signals move

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between towers, how GPS records
a person's every step, and how

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in today's world, our phones can
tell a story more detailed than

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We ever realized. Hamilton had
spent 60 to 70 hours analyzing

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the digital footprints of both
Jasmine pace and Jason Chen, and

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now he was about to take us
through that timeline minute by

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minute. Because while people can
lie, our cell phones don't.

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And let's start with Miss Pace's
phone on 1122, 2022 this is

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exhibit number one. Have you
seen this exhibit before? Yes,

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ma'am. What is this show? To
your knowledge? It

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is a screenshot from an app on
her phone. It records days and

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times start and stop

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when reviewing the records to
determine the location of Miss

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paces phone on the 22nd were you
able to find evidence that

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corroborates this trip? Yes.

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On November 22 cell phone data
shows Jasmine departing her home

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in Hixon, Tennessee at 11:27pm
and arriving at Jason Chen's

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apartment at 11:42pm at 2:18am
on November 23 Jasmine's phone

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sends a location pin to Katrina
Bean's cell phone at 10:40am the

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morning of November 23 Jason and
his phone heads to Walmart.

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Hamilton reveals that Jasmine's
phone is also traveling with

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him.

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Okay, so we're still going
chronologically. Okay, Mr.

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Hamilton, so after this at some
point in the morning hours at

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1123 did mister Chen's phone
travel to the Walmart? Yes, from

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your memory, was that travel
around 1040 in the morning. Now,

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did miss Pace's cell phone
travel from Tremont to Walmart

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as well.

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Once again, general Cody watt
pulls up the video footage Jason

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Chen casually walking through
Walmart wearing his now infamous

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anything goes hat. She reminds
the jury exactly what they're

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looking at. This isn't some
random shopping trip. This is

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the morning after Jasmine pace
was last seen alive. It's a

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detail that's almost too absurd
to believe Jason Chen shopping

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for cleaning supplies and band
aids, wearing a hat that seems

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to mock the very idea of
accountability. I mentioned that

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Jason had Jasmine's phone with
him at this point, Hamilton

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points out something interesting
where Jason went Jasmine's phone

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went too until just like that,
it went dark. WAMP asks if a

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phone is turned off or a SIM
card is removed, would her phone

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have gone dark? And Hamilton
confirms that it. COVID. Da WAMP

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then asks where Jason Chen goes
next. Based on cell phone

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records, his location was at
Walgreens at 1:41pm corroborated

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by the video of Chen walking
into Walgreens at this time,

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Jasmine's phone is still off.
Then around 4pm both phones ping

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from the same cell tower.

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Are you aware of any activity
that that you found on both of

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their cellular records around
this time? And who is that text

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message from? And who's it too?

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If that was hard to hear,
Hamilton said that a text

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message was sent from Jason Chen
to Jasmine pace at this time.

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Remember this one?

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Hey, are we still good for
dinner tonight?

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350 something that both of their
phones showed back up in

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downtown Chattanooga, correct?
Yes. Are you able to tell the

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jury if Miss Pace's phone had
been on immediately before that,

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or is this the first time you
see it back on? No, I didn't get

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on for a little while. Okay, his
was off and hers on, and it was

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driving behind, off and on, yes,
for the first quarter today, on

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1123,

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at this point, womp takes us
back to suck Creek Road, and

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Hamilton confirms something
chilling for the second Time,

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Jason Chen's phone data shows
him driving up and down suck

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Creek Road. It's hard not to
wonder why was he scouting,

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searching for the perfect spot.
Presumably, he was looking for a

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place to dump that suitcase at
5:08pm, Jason Chen returns to

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his apartment at 110 Tremont,
and then we see it the footage

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we've now seen so many times
it's burned into memory. At

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5:59pm Jason Chen is seen
exiting the front entrance of

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the lofts at Tremont, pulling a
heavy suitcase up a handful of

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steps, then rolling it down the
sidewalk before he disappears

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out of frame and into the
parking lot. I want to pause

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here for a minute to talk about
this surveillance footage. The

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video comes from the Arctic cam
mounted at the corner of Tremont

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and Frazier. It's angled
straight down Tremont Street,

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with the lofts at Tremont
visible on the right hand side

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the front entrance to the
apartment complex sits slightly

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below sidewalk level with a
short set of steps leading down

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to the door. In the footage, you
see a figure at the base of

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those steps struggling to make
his way up. We immediately

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recognize him by now, the state
has done a meticulous job

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painting out the identifiers,
his Henny thing goes trucker

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hat, his clothes, his movements
as Chen reaches the top step,

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you can see he's dragging
something behind him, and then

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the suitcase comes into view.
When the suitcase hits the

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sidewalk, there's this moment
Chen's arm drops under the

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weight of it. He readjusts,
finds his grip, and starts

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pulling it towards the camera's
view before disappearing into

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the parking lot. That suitcase
wasn't empty. If you've ever

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traveled, you know, most
airlines cap checked bags at 50

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pounds. Now imagine doubling
that. That's what Jason was

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hauling up those stairs and down
Tremont street after the trial,

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my producer and I made the trip
to Chattanooga and 110 Tremont

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was the first place we visited,
seeing it in person, this

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building that had become a
central character in Jasmine's

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story was surreal when we were
pulling out of the back parking

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lot by the dumpsters, I saw
those steps and the sidewalk the

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exact spot where Jason pulled
that suitcase. Here's a clip

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from that day describe how you
feel seeing it in person. Yeah,

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this is pretty surreal. My heart
is beating being here, just

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seeing the the sidewalk that he
walked, the steps that that

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suitcase got pulled up, and
seeing the footage of like his

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arm drop when, when the weight
of that bag got rolling, you

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could just tell it was so heavy,
even though we know she was only

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98 pounds, like most suitcases
are like 50 pounds, so that was

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twice as heavy as, like, the
average suitcase you would

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travel with at an airport. And
anyway, it's just pretty crazy

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to be seeing the sidewalk where
we saw the footage of him.

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Rolling her out of the tree. Ma
apartments, after Jason rolls

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the suitcase into the parking
lot, the Arctic cam captures the

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next piece of the puzzle, a 2018
gray Toyota Camry pulls out of

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the lot, behind the wheel Jason
Chen, the camera shows him

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turning right onto Fraser
Avenue, leaving the lofts at

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Tremont behind. Minutes later,
at 6:13pm, cell phone records

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confirm exactly where he's
headed, suck Creek Road. He

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waited until it was dark enough,
then pulled off onto the gravel

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turnout. He popped the trunk,
dragged the 100 pound suitcase

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out, then pulled it to the edge
of the river bank, shoving it as

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deep as he could into the dried
kudzu brush, forcing it out of

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sight. 20 minutes later, at
6:33pm Jason Chen leaves suck

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Creek Road and the body of
Jasmine pace and drives back to

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the Walmart he visited earlier
that day. He arrives in the

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Walmart parking lot, and at
6:49pm Jasmine's phone goes

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dark. That's the last time her
phone ever sends out a signal

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you

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you know, during sequestration,
I had a lot of time to think,

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and honestly, I kept wishing I
had a speaker so that I could

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just listen to a great book.
That's why I love audiobooks,

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whether I'm driving, walking the
dogs or traveling, I can just

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press play and get lost in an
amazing story anytime and

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anywhere. One of my all time
favorites is New York by Edward

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Rutherford. This epic historical
novel spans over 400 years,

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following generations of
families through the city's most

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pivotal moments from its Dutch
settlement days and all the way

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to 911 it was one of the first
audio books I had ever listened

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to. It felt like the narrator
was reading the story, just for

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me, I was completely hooked.
Here's some good news. You can

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slash, sequestered.

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We know Jason kept her SIM card,
but just to be clear, Jasmine's

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actual phone has never been
found, not in his apartment, not

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in his car, not anywhere, as if
the device that once held her

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messages, her photos, her entire
digital life simply vanished the

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courtroom audio from this part
of the trial is hard to make

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out, but the Message is crystal
clear. This is where Jasmine's

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digital trail ends.

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So based on this photo, you can
tell he's actually leaving the

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location at the bottom. Yes. Do
you recall where Mr. Chan's

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phone goes from this location?
This is the same Walmart that he

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was at earlier in the day. It's
nearby. Is that correct? And do

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you recall if there's anything
significant about Mr. Chen's

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phone being back at the Walmart
again? So when you say

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reappears, what do you mean?
It's been dark.

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I at 7pm Jason Chen walks into
the Walgreens on Market Street

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in Chattanooga. Footage from the
store and his cell phone records

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confirm it. What I know now,
especially after visiting these

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locations myself, is that this
Walgreens sits directly along

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the route back to Jason's
apartment from suck Creek Road,

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where Jasmine's body had already
been left behind, after a quick

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stop in the Walmart parking lot
to handle the final details of

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her never to be seen again,
phone, Jason makes one more stop

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at this Walgreens on Market
Street before returning to his

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apartment just a few blocks
away. But he doesn't stay home

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for long. A little after 8pm a
neighbor's ring cam catches him

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slipping out the side door of
the building. He's still wearing

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the Henny thing goes hat, but
this time, he's added a blue

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face mask and pulled up the hood
of his gray sweatshirt. Moments

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later, the Arctic cam captures.
Masked figure wearing a red and

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white trucker hat and a hooded
gray sweatshirt, pulling out of

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the apartments in a white chevy
equinox and turning right onto

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Fraser Avenue. That's Jasmine's
car, and Jason is driving it,

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but he's not out to run errands.
No, he's driving to 900 mountain

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creek road where he'll abandon
the vehicle, the same place

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Jasmine's family will find it
just three days later, desperate

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for answers,

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and at some point, a while
later, do we see Mr. Chen back

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at Tremont in your review of the
evidence, were you able to see

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this video? Yes. Would you agree
that that person appears to be

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leaving a building? Yes. Ma'am,
all right, and now we go back to

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phone records. Did Mr. Chen's
phone indicate that he was

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leaving the Tremont apartments
around this time, around the

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exact same time that he is seen
leaving the Tremont apartment

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building? Is that correct? Do
you recall where he went, and is

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there other evidence that you
reviewed that would corroborate

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his travel to 900 mountain creek
road. There is the camera that's

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across

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the street from treatment.

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Remember the my Chevy app, the
one Jasmine's mom used to locate

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her car on the night of November
26 that app captured the final

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trip that Jasmine's car ever
took, starting at 8:27pm when

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Jason pulls out of his apartment
complex at 110 Tremont Street,

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and ending just 18 minutes later
at 8:45pm when he parks it for

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the last time, abandoning the
vehicle in a dark back parking

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lot at 900 mountain Creek Road.
Now let's listen in as general

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Cody WAMP walks the jury through
the surveillance footage.

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Okay. Is this video taken from
the mountain free road apartment

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buildings? UV, at this point in
time, is Mr. Chen's cell phone

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location data showing that he is
in or around 900 mountain creek

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road. And then, have you also
seen the next part of this video

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that shows what looks like or
has been testified to a Prius

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pulling into this parking lot?
Yes, ma'am.

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Remember that Prius captured on
the surveillance video at 900

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mountain creek road, the one
that pulls into the same parking

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lot Jason did after abandoning
Jasmine's car, that Prius was

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Jason's lift ride, the same
driver who would later drop him

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off back at his apartment.
Detective Hamilton walks the

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jury through data extracted from
Jason's phone showing that the

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lift app was accessed at 8:39pm
just minutes after Jason left

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the equinox, a notification then
comes through at 8:50pm likely

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telling him his ride was
arriving. Jason's cell phone

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data still places him at 900
mountain creek road at this time

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by 9:02pm, Jason Chen and his
phone are delivered to 110

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Tremont Street. Hamilton
confirms via cell phone data,

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while da WAMP queues up the
Arctic footage capturing Jason

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exiting the lift outside of his
apartment building. Let's listen

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in as she presents the moment
Jason steps out of that lift,

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steppers, if anybody else

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and at this point in time, are
mister Chin's phone records

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showing that he is back in his
apartment on tree, not Street,

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alright. The next question asked
you significant, where was Mr.

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Chin's cell phone from this time
on 1123 until midday on 1125 it

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was it was at his apartment,
yes, the entire time, yes,

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didn't go anywhere. Would you
agree that that's basically a

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day and a half? It is

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a quick side note here, both the
Lyft app and the tinder app had

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been deleted from Jason's phone
before investigators got their

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hands on it, but thanks to the
forensic data extraction,

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Hamilton was still able to
recover key information from

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both of the apps. Not long after
Jason returns home that night,

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he makes a move that's both
calculated and revealing, but

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why we may never know. What we
do know is this, Jason inserts

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his own SIM card into Jasmine's
phone, activating it with his

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personal data and tying himself
directly to her device. Yes. All

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right, let's step back through
the timeline real quick. After

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Jason drops Jasmine's car off at
mountain creek road, he takes a

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lift home, arriving back at his
apartment at exactly 9:02pm on

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November 23 From this time on
November 23 until midday on

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November 25 Jason Chen does not
leave his apartment. Was this

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when he was cleaning,
rearranging the furniture to

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cover up what happened inside of
his bedroom, preparing to head

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home for the holiday as if
nothing had happened by this

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point, remember, Jason had made
three separate trips to Walmart

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and Walgreens stocking up on
supplies. Jasmine's body and the

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suitcase were already left
behind on Sut Creek Road and

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inside his apartment, we know
there was blood, almost a gallon

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of it actually, for context,
Thanksgiving Day was on November

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24 that year, Jason didn't leave
Chattanooga until Friday

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afternoon, finally getting into
his car around 3pm Eastern Time

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and arriving at his parents
house in nolansville, Tennessee

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at 4:50pm central time two days
later, on Sunday, November 27

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Jason Chen returns to the North
Shore area of Chattanooga, but

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here's the thing, he never goes
back into his apartment. Cell

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Phone records show him stopping
just west of Tremont street near

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Renaissance Park, a small green
space just a few blocks away

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from the lofts at Tremont where
he lived at this point, general

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WAMP makes an effort to ask
Hamilton what time the

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Chattanooga Police Department
secured Chen's apartment on this

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day, Hamilton confirms it
happened sometime between 10 and

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11pm on Sunday, November 27
after Chen's cell phone data

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shows he was first seen back in
the area we know from

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investigator Crawford's
testimony that the search

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warrant for Jason Chen's
apartment was granted at 11:45pm

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that same night. So what was
Jason back in town for? Surely

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by now, investigator Crawford
had already been calling his

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phone. Was he curious about any
activity around his apartment,

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checking to see if the police
were already involved, or was

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there something else, pulling
him back. Then Hamilton reveals

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another twist. Jason leaves the
North Shore area around 9:30pm

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heading towards Hixson, a
community just north of

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Chattanooga, and according to
his phone records, Jason stays

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in the Hixson area until about
10:15pm before heading back to

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nolensville. So what's in
Hixson? Jasmine's house, her

442
00:32:54,099 --> 00:32:59,259
family's house. What in the
world was Jason doing there? And

443
00:32:59,259 --> 00:33:01,979
more importantly, why?

444
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,120
Next the state shifts the jury's
attention to Jasmine's phone

445
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:17,160
activity, more specifically, her
text messages and app usage in

446
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,020
the hours after she was last
seen alive. What Hamilton

447
00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:26,060
uncovers is deeply unsettling.
At 4am on the morning of

448
00:33:26,060 --> 00:33:29,720
November 23 Jasmine's phone
received a series of

449
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,860
notifications. They were
password reset requests for her

450
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:39,860
banking apps, and by 9:52am That
same morning, Jason was already

451
00:33:39,860 --> 00:33:44,380
back on Tinder messaging
somebody new. He sends this

452
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:46,480
message to a person named
Victoria,

453
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:48,760
so I guess we're dating now.

454
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:59,140
Victoria responds, ha, really?
Why is that? Jason didn't stop

455
00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:02,520
there, though. He also reached
out to two other women on Tinder

456
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,600
That same morning. I keep
thinking about these women he

457
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,800
messaged, as far as they knew,
it was just flirty banter on a

458
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,940
dating app. I mean, how could
they possibly know that the guy

459
00:34:14,940 --> 00:34:19,140
messaging them had just murdered
his girlfriend, her lifeless

460
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:24,320
body was still laying on the
floor of his bedroom as

461
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,980
investigator Hamilton's
TESTIMONY CONTINUES, he shares

462
00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:32,300
even more text data recovered
from Jason Chen's phone. I was

463
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:35,300
actually glad I could watch this
part back, because there was

464
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,480
just so much information flying
at us during this part of the

465
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,900
trial, texts and dates and times
and different time zones, it was

466
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:47,800
nearly impossible to keep up
with in the moment. So it wasn't

467
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,280
until re watching it for this
episode that I fully caught on

468
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,920
to what da WAMP was getting at
with this next group of

469
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,600
messages. But before we get
there, Hamilton also confirms

470
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,320
something that directly Contra.
Index the defense's opening

471
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,300
statement, he testifies that the
tinder app on Jason's phone was

472
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:11,400
not accessed at all on the day
of November 22 that's a direct

473
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,880
conflict with what the defense
had claimed about Jasmine

474
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,180
becoming upset after seeing
Tinder messages popping up on

475
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:22,700
Jason's phone that night with
womps leading Hamilton then

476
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:26,000
shifts and explains to the jury
that we're looking at a text

477
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,620
thread from Jason Chen's phone,
a group chat between Jason and

478
00:35:30,620 --> 00:35:37,460
his gamer friends. Around 9:30pm
on November 23 a handful of

479
00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:40,720
texts roll in. The guys are
checking in to see who's

480
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:45,160
available and who's getting on
to play tonight. Want points out

481
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,040
that all of these texts are
being read by Jason as they come

482
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,120
in. She continues scrolling down
the report showing more

483
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,720
conversation over the next
couple of hours. Just before

484
00:35:55,720 --> 00:36:00,480
midnight, someone named Mina
writes, you guys running more

485
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,900
war zone, then at 1:06am, now
officially Thanksgiving Day.

486
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,520
Jason chimes in,

487
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,980
I'm getting on in like five.

488
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:17,880
You're getting on in like five,
as in you're calm enough to sit

489
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,260
on your couch and play video
games with your buddies just

490
00:36:21,260 --> 00:36:24,200
seven hours after you dumped
your girlfriend's body in a

491
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:32,600
suitcase by the side of the
Tennessee River, there's a short

492
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,740
mid morning break at this point,
and although I had no idea at

493
00:36:36,740 --> 00:36:41,620
the time, the defense used that
break to submit a motion, a move

494
00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:46,720
that would quietly set the stage
for what was coming next. A

495
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,680
motion is a formal request made
to the court asking the judge to

496
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,600
rule on a specific issue. In
this case, Mr. Weiss filed a

497
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,840
motion requesting that the
entirety of the text messages

498
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,820
between Jasmine pace and Jason
Chen be admitted into evidence

499
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,720
with the jury now out of
earshot, the courtroom quickly

500
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,260
turns into a legal tug of war.
Weiss arguing for full

501
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:13,920
transparency while WAMP raises
serious concerns about their

502
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,880
relevance. They go back and
forth over whether these texts,

503
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:21,320
even the ones from a year before
Jasmine's murder, are actually

504
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,600
hearsay. Then da want plants her
feet and calls it out directly,

505
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,740
saying We just received this
motion approximately four and a

506
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:35,300
half minutes ago. Judge
Patterson appears open to

507
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:40,100
admitting the full 240 pages of
text, but general want pushes

508
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:45,940
back hard, arguing that messages
from 2021 have nothing to do

509
00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:50,080
with the murder of Jasmine pace.
She also makes one thing crystal

510
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,040
clear, if these pages are to be
submitted, any texts that are

511
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,100
sexual in nature should be
redacted before they're shown to

512
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,780
the jury. Here's how that
exchange played out, right in

513
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:01,740
front of the judge,

514
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,480
proof that the defendant and the
decedent had a sexual

515
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:12,240
relationship. They were dating
of some kind, and that needs to

516
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,660
be shown that the relationship
between the defendant and the

517
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:19,140
decedent is central to the
defense case. So we would like

518
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:23,600
to have the entirety of the text
messages submitted to show to

519
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,080
show this relationship. Lastly,
the Saints open the door.

520
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,860
They've already had mister
Hamilton go through the the data

521
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:33,560
extraction of how they obtain
these messages the same way that

522
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,740
we receive them. They have gone
through the defendant's Tinder.

523
00:38:36,740 --> 00:38:39,380
They've gone through the
defendant's I messages. None of

524
00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:43,060
those messages were redacted,
even though we talk about

525
00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:46,960
relevancy, and so all those came
in. So I believe the state has

526
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,080
opened the door to allowing
these text messages come in if

527
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,560
their argument is a relevancy
well, then they shouldn't have

528
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,740
introduced the messages when the
state uses

529
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,620
them, are statements from a
party opponent, a well

530
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:06,720
recognized hearsay exception.
Mister Williams cannot use

531
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,080
mister Chen's statement in court
because it's not a party

532
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,960
opponent. So that's slightly
different. I did not agree that

533
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,360
we open the door, however, Your
Honor, if we can agree to

534
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,940
eliminate the irrelevant text
messages, and there's not many

535
00:39:22,940 --> 00:39:27,380
of them, but irrelevant text
messages regarding sexual

536
00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:33,620
activity, and I've only noticed,
then you'll agree to the text

537
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:38,600
messages coming in. I do not
believe that text messages about

538
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,600
sexual activity are relevant to
mister West case or the homicide

539
00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:44,440
Japanese. Okay,

540
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:51,520
so we're tailoring, so please
show me sexual messages to talk

541
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,780
about, because

542
00:39:54,699 --> 00:39:57,939
what your honor Hold on, because
I'll point it out for you. Case

543
00:39:57,939 --> 00:39:58,599
by wage. I.

544
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:08,520
To me, I just mentioned that I I
don't intend to ask, tell me

545
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,980
about this sexual text message.
I wanted to

546
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:14,580
do that. No, he intends to tell
the jury closing argument.

547
00:40:14,580 --> 00:40:17,160
Should go back and read all the
messages that they will be in

548
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,740
evidence that we objects to
them. I will go through them

549
00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:20,700
with mister Hamilton.

550
00:40:22,860 --> 00:40:28,700
You. The footage that follows
this exchange is muted, but you

551
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,820
don't need sound to pick up on
what's happening. Their body

552
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:36,440
language says it all tension,
frustration and the two sides

553
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,860
digging in. It's clear this was
important to both the

554
00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:44,080
prosecution and the defense,
each for very different reasons.

555
00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:48,400
After a tense back and forth,
Judge Patterson allows some of

556
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,660
the texts in, but only if
they're relevant. The jury never

557
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:56,620
saw the messages that were
sexual in nature, and honestly,

558
00:40:56,740 --> 00:41:03,060
we didn't need to. What's
interesting is those 240 pages

559
00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:06,660
of text messages were actually
the very first thing I reached

560
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:09,600
for when the evidence box was
brought into the jury room

561
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,440
during our deliberations. There
was no way I could have read

562
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,560
through it all, but I wanted to
see for myself if their

563
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,860
relationship really looked as
lopsided as the defense claimed

564
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,200
from the text. I did have time
to read. What I saw looked like

565
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:30,200
a pretty normal relationship.
When we return from the mid

566
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,220
morning break, Mark Hamilton is
still on the stand, this time

567
00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:38,840
ready for the defense's cross
examination. Defense Attorney

568
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,640
Amanda Morrison approaches the
podium. This is the first time

569
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,280
I've really mentioned her, so
let me paint the picture.

570
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,040
Dressed in a solid colored skirt
suit, Amanda Morrison carries

571
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,300
herself with a quiet confidence.
Her straight reddish brown hair

572
00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:58,720
frames her face and there's a
deliberate calmness in her

573
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:03,060
demeanor. Morrison starts by
asking Hamilton to confirm

574
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:08,160
something. Can he actually prove
that Jason Chen went to his

575
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,400
apartment when he returned to
Chattanooga from nolensville on

576
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:17,160
November 27 Hamilton answers
carefully. He can place Chen in

577
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,320
the area of his apartment based
on cell phone data, but he can't

578
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,440
say for certain whether or not
Jason actually entered his

579
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,340
apartment that day. To be
honest, I wasn't actually sure

580
00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:31,340
why this mattered, but the
defense made a point to put it

581
00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:36,080
on the record. Next judge,
Patterson addressed the jury

582
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,500
directly, explaining how we're
allowed to consider the text

583
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,940
messages that were submitted,
essentially saying that the

584
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:46,360
texts are only to be used for
the non hearsay purpose of

585
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,660
establishing the length of Jason
and Jasmine's relationship.

586
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,560
Morrison dives right in,
suggesting that someone could

587
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,740
have fabricated the pin
screenshot sent to Jasmine's mom

588
00:42:56,740 --> 00:43:03,000
at 2:18am on November 23 she
pushes Hamilton, asking if it's

589
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,880
possible that someone could have
faked that screenshot that

590
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,000
Katrina bean showed of the text
message from Jasmine with her

591
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,920
location pin. But Hamilton
stands firm. He says it would be

592
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,400
extremely difficult to fabricate
because of the sheer amount of

593
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160
detail embedded in the
screenshots metadata.

594
00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:24,560
Eventually, Hamilton concedes
that, in theory, anything is

595
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,340
possible, but in his expert
opinion, the screenshot is

596
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:33,680
authentic. Before investigator
Hamilton stepped down, we had a

597
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,000
few questions of our own. One of
the jurors asked if Jason's SIM

598
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,320
card was in his phone. When
investigators recovered it from

599
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,940
his parents house. Hamilton
confirmed that it was reminding

600
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:49,060
the jury that Jason had moved
that same SIM card into

601
00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:52,600
Jasmine's phone for a period of
time, but that it had been

602
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,480
returned to his own phone by the
time it was recovered for

603
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,680
extraction. Another juror asked
what would happen if text

604
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520
messages were deleted from
Jason's phone, would they still

605
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,600
show up in the conversation log?
Hamilton explained that

606
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,540
depending on the make and model
of the phone, the log would be

607
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:12,720
able to tell that a message had
been deleted, but that the

608
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,700
actual content of those messages
would likely not appear as

609
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:21,260
Hamilton's testimony came to a
close investigator, Zach

610
00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:24,560
Crawford, would be called back
to the witness stand serving as

611
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:30,080
the final witness of the day. Da
WAMP recalled him and he was

612
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,760
sworn in for a second time. She
started by addressing a point

613
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,780
the defense had raised earlier,
asking Crawford to explain why

614
00:44:38,780 --> 00:44:42,220
his own palm and fingerprints
were found on the hood of Jason

615
00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:45,940
Chen's car. Crawford admitted
that during the search of Jason

616
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:48,700
Chen's parents' house, he
accidentally touched the

617
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:52,300
vehicle, explaining that the
tight space around the car,

618
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:55,300
packed with his family's
belongings, made it difficult to

619
00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:59,200
avoid and he accidentally fell
forward, bracing himself on the

620
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,300
hood. He was careful to mention
that this was the first time his

621
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:08,340
fingerprints had ever shown up
on a TBI report before shifting

622
00:45:08,340 --> 00:45:11,700
gears, da WAMP made sure to
tackle one more defense theory

623
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,840
head on, the suggestion that the
screenshot of the location pin

624
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,840
Jasmine sent to her mom was
somehow fake.

625
00:45:20,340 --> 00:45:25,220
You were the investigator in
november 2022 who was

626
00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:27,620
investigating this case? That
correct? In

627
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:30,620
November 27 I was brought to the
investigation in 2020

628
00:45:31,820 --> 00:45:37,280
were you present when Katrina B
scrolled up in her text messages

629
00:45:37,340 --> 00:45:40,720
to show you that location drop?

630
00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:44,800
Yes, I was personally present. I
actually, when she told me about

631
00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:48,160
the location drop, I personally
requested that we observe those

632
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,860
at which one I actually
requested a crimes investigator

633
00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:52,360
come out and document those
issues.

634
00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:56,800
And was that done? Yes, in what
time was the location shared

635
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:57,580
from Jasmine's

636
00:45:58,420 --> 00:46:02,220
phone? On her phone, I actually
had her name is jazzy with the

637
00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:06,120
pictures, I verified. I looked
at the contact itself, had her

638
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,440
click on it, and observed it to
be the phone number that we know

639
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,520
to be the victims. Subsequently,
I looked at the content of the

640
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:18,180
text message group, at which
point I observed a pin drop

641
00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:22,280
location that was shared on
November 23 2022 at 2:18am,

642
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,140
2:18am,

643
00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:36,200
next. General WAMP shifts her
focus, turning the jury's

644
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,800
attention to text messages
between Jason Chen and Jasmine

645
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,900
pace. Investigator Crawford
walks us through their text

646
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:47,800
message history, explaining how
their conversation started

647
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,840
briefly in November of 2021 then
dropped off completely until

648
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,640
April of 2022, and here's
something interesting, when

649
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,860
their messages resumed in April
of 22 Jason actually reminded

650
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:04,740
Jasmine that they had originally
matched on Bumble the year

651
00:47:04,740 --> 00:47:09,600
before, not Tinder, another
direct contradiction from what

652
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,660
the defense claimed in their
opening statement that the two

653
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:18,420
of them had met on Tinder. From
there, Crawford explains their

654
00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:22,700
messages show no arguments or
signs of conflict, just casual

655
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:25,280
conversations. As they started
seeing each other more

656
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,960
regularly, Jason frequently
asked Jasmine to come over, and

657
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,160
their relationship seemed to
progress naturally. By late

658
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,020
October of 2022 Jason had even
invited Jasmine to go to Chicago

659
00:47:39,020 --> 00:47:43,480
with him, a trip they eventually
took together. As WAMP and

660
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Crawford take the jury through
these text messages, we begin to

661
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,040
see how their relationship
evolved from casual conversation

662
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,940
to planning trips together. I
want to take you through some of

663
00:47:54,940 --> 00:47:57,820
the key moments of their
conversation exactly as they

664
00:47:57,820 --> 00:48:05,280
were written on November 1 of
2022 Jason liked a text that

665
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:10,980
Jasmine sent him around 11am
here's Jasmine's actual message

666
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,560
read in an AI generated voice,

667
00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:17,340
oh, and you should go on the set
Creek drive before all the

668
00:48:17,340 --> 00:48:18,660
leaves are really dropped.

669
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,300
This was one of the most
chilling moments of the trial

670
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:27,380
for me. I've mentioned this text
message before in an earlier

671
00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:31,520
episode, Jasmine either spelled
the street name wrong, or maybe

672
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,120
it was auto corrected, but the
typo didn't matter. What

673
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,560
mattered now was Jason's
reaction to it, because only 22

674
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,540
days later, Jason wouldn't just
take that drive on suck Creek

675
00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:48,580
Road. He would leave Jasmine
there. But let's not get too far

676
00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:52,360
ahead of ourselves here. Let's
back up to that trip to Chicago

677
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,560
late in October. Here's a bit of
the text conversation leading up

678
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:02,580
to that trip on October 10, at
9:10pm, Jason sends this text to

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00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:03,240
Jasmine.

680
00:49:03,779 --> 00:49:05,519
How's the Chicago update look
like?

681
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:10,800
Let you know by noon. Plus, I
said I would get it to you by

682
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,860
Monday before you were going to
your parents for the next couple

683
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:19,020
of days, I don't want to bother
you while you're out there. Yes,

684
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,700
my answer is yes. I got it
worked out and my office covered

685
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:27,080
while I'm gone, Mark Me is
coming with you and excited.

686
00:49:28,820 --> 00:49:31,760
Just a couple weeks later, they
actually take this trip to

687
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,660
Chicago together, even stopping
to visit an uncle of Jasmine's

688
00:49:35,660 --> 00:49:39,620
that she had never met by mid
November, their conversations

689
00:49:39,620 --> 00:49:43,780
continued with casual back and
forth texting. There were gaps

690
00:49:43,780 --> 00:49:46,960
of time where they didn't talk
for a few days, but nothing

691
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,600
unusual. Then on November 18,
Jason sends Jasmine, a more

692
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,980
suggestive message.

693
00:49:54,340 --> 00:49:56,800
I'm heading home now if you want
to come over for some fun,

694
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,300
shower time and cuddles for a
bit.

695
00:49:59,739 --> 00:50:04,139
Oh. Nice, just Cuddles, maybe
shower time. I really haven't

696
00:50:04,139 --> 00:50:05,399
been feeling too well.

697
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:09,120
Okay, I'll babysit you for a
bit.

698
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,640
Jasmine reacted with a laugh to
that last text from Jason, and

699
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,200
by 718 that night, she had
arrived at his apartment on

700
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,120
November 20, Jason sends a text
to Jasmine about how she

701
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,380
inspired him to get donuts that
morning, they exchanged casual

702
00:50:27,380 --> 00:50:29,360
dialog. Then he asks her,

703
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:31,820
what are you doing this
Wednesday, by the way,

704
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,800
at this point, da want pauses
and turns to investigator

705
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,860
Crawford. She asks him a simple
but deliberate question, would

706
00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:46,960
you agree that November 20 of
2022 is just two days before

707
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:53,260
November 22 2022 Crawford
agrees. She continues, asking

708
00:50:53,260 --> 00:50:56,980
him to confirm what day of the
week was, November 22 2022

709
00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:03,540
Crawford replies, Tuesday. WAMP
follows up again, and that would

710
00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:07,980
mean November 23 was a
Wednesday. Crawford again agrees

711
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,120
with that. Timeline locked in
general, WAMP returns to the

712
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,080
text messages.

713
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,400
What are you doing this
Wednesday? By the way, let's get

714
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,800
a light workout in, and then go
for dinner and drinks.

715
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,200
Okay, that sounds nice, like a
real date,

716
00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:29,660
perfect. Anyways, I have to go
the lab to finish some work.

717
00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:31,220
Looking forward to Wednesday.

718
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,220
Jasmine reacted with a heart to
Jason's last text, then replied

719
00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:40,180
with a message telling him to
have a good lab to get his

720
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:43,120
homework done and that she was
looking forward to Wednesday.

721
00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:48,760
These final texts show no sign
of fear, hesitation or

722
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,380
suspicion. Jasmine was engaged
in the conversation. Her words

723
00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:58,360
are casual, natural and warm.
The defense had tried to suggest

724
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,860
a power imbalance, implying that
one of them was more invested in

725
00:52:01,860 --> 00:52:05,040
the relationship than the other,
but investigator Crawford

726
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,460
confirms there's nothing in
these texts to suggest that was

727
00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:12,840
true. Their messages remained
even in their exchange and their

728
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,840
back and forth. Tone was
affectionate without coming

729
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,780
across obsessive. And yet, just
two days later, all of this

730
00:52:20,780 --> 00:52:27,860
would change, hearing
investigators walk through Jason

731
00:52:27,860 --> 00:52:33,380
and Jasmine's messages today hit
hard. Jasmine wasn't upset. She

732
00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:38,060
wasn't angry. She was just
living her life, making plans,

733
00:52:38,060 --> 00:52:42,940
sending heart emojis and looking
forward to Wednesday, and then

734
00:52:43,060 --> 00:52:48,100
she was gone. It's haunting to
think about. These weren't the

735
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:51,400
messages of someone who was
afraid or planning an escape.

736
00:52:52,060 --> 00:52:55,480
She wasn't breaking up with
Jason. She wasn't even pulling

737
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,680
away from him. Jasmine had no
idea what Wednesday held in

738
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,840
store for her. She had no idea
that on Tuesday, she would lose

739
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,400
her beloved grandmother, and she
definitely had no idea that just

740
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:16,440
hours after that, her own life
would be taken from her next

741
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,900
time on sequestered. The State
rests its case after everything

742
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:24,860
we've seen, the fingerprints,
the timeline, the chilling

743
00:53:24,860 --> 00:53:29,540
digital evidence. One question
remains, what will Jason Chen's

744
00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:30,740
defense have to say?

745
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,980
There was a screen that started
me. Ultimately, I checked my

746
00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:40,360
phone to see the time because I
was going to call them. One was

747
00:53:40,540 --> 00:53:49,240
around 2am there was a voice
that was screaming words, the

748
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:50,080
words I couldn't

749
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,900
understand fully. You

750
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,680
don't want to miss Episode
Seven. It's about to get

751
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,600
complicated. You

752
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:27,920
I thank you for listening to
sequestered a juror's

753
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,760
perspective on the murder trial
for Jasmine pace. Each episode

754
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,400
brings us closer to
understanding the trial, the

755
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,120
people involved, and the weight
of seeking justice. If this

756
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,100
story speaks to you, please
follow, share and continue the

757
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:46,000
conversation with us. Jasmine's
story deserves to be remembered.

758
00:54:48,820 --> 00:54:53,500
This is a BP production. The
show is written, edited and

759
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:58,300
produced by me Sarah Reed, with
CO production by Andrea Kleid,

760
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,400
news clips feature. In this
episode were sourced from wtbc

761
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,060
News Channel Nine, local three
news, Chattanooga and the law

762
00:55:06,060 --> 00:55:09,780
and crime network. Music and
sound design are curated to

763
00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:13,020
reflect the gravity and
sensitivity of this story, and

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00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:16,140
with the intent to honor
Jasmine, her family and the

765
00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:20,300
community affected by her death.
For more information or to

766
00:55:20,300 --> 00:55:24,080
connect with us, visit
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00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:29,060
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768
00:55:29,060 --> 00:55:31,640
next Time, stay curious and stay
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