WWE SummerSlam Recap & Review | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #704 – 8/10/23

0:00 It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition to Store Reel to Show episnumber seven hundred and four for August tenth, twenty twenty three. This is your WWE SummerSlam Recap and Review edition of Apps Are to You. I am one Apple Show. I am Jeff Peck joined every single week my cost theoly doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. Has your brother ever turned his back on you? My friend? Uh, let's see which one I have? Several?

0:47 So I have I have one, two, three, A four step brothers and my real brother. So three of them? No, two of them? Yes? All right, okay, stay tuned. I mean that could be head line in a pay per view soon. Well yeah, but then again, that Elton involved me actually getting back into a ring, and that's not happening any type too. All right, fair enough, fair enough, We'll trying to again in a couple of months. Folks. Welcome, welcome, one and all to this week's edition MASSR to you, obviously recap and review. With Summer Slam here momentarily the biggest party of the summer. We have things that are going on with all in London. Some fallout from Summer Slam that we'll talk about here all on this week's edition of SRTU.

1:29 So let's get into it, Doctor Trey. This past Saturday SummerSlam Ple from Ford Field in Detroit, Michigan, which also held which WrestleMania Doctor Trey. Oh random Guess twenty eighth, twenty three, twenty three, which was headlined by John Cen and Shawn Michaels. Oh, okay, that's actually the one that made me said, because I'm a Shawn Michael's fan. First. Yeah, it was originally supposed to be Triple and John Cena going one on one as a rematch from wrestle May twenty two, but Triple H got hurt in January, New England New Year's Revolution. I almost a New England Revolution, which was a soccer team New Year's Revolution. I believe it was in Puerto Rico. He tore his Quadraceps again doing a spinebuster, I believe in I think an elimination chamber match. I'm not. I don't know. I may may have messed that one up, maybe in a tag team match, but nonetheless, it was the home of WrestleMania twenty three, and they're back there for summer Slam fifty nine thousand strong and attendance for this year's edition of Summer Slam, Doctor Trey. The first match here was Logan Paul defeating Ricochet.

2:40 We both had Logan Paul getting the victory. Really good match. Logan Paul having less than ten matches under his belt performing at that level is pretty amazing. The brass knuckles ending made sense as it added Logan's growing heel persona, and he also didn't beat a regular talent. Clean good spot for Ricochet and happy he had this opportunity, fun match, Doctor try to kick off the show. Yeah, really good, really good match. And I'm sitting there watching this, I'm going I still really don't want to enjoy Logan Paul matches, but I do. And I mean that Buck shot Larryot over the top rope down to the floor, like even though the clothesline wasn't clean, just the fact that he can pull that off, Like, I'm like, all right, this guy's crazy athletic. Him and Ricochet had really good chemistry.

3:23 It was a really good spot for Ricochet to be in to open up the show. It was a fun little match. I was a little bummed out about him not getting a push on Monday night, but you know whatever. But yeah, like overall to kick off the show, I was like, damn, this is that they're setting the bar pretty high for two guys at the crowd. I don't know about it is. The crowd was kind of it into the beginning, but by the end they were fully invested. Oh yeah, they were. They were loving and it wasn't I know, this is gonna sounds strange because of the amount of spots that they did, but I didn't feel like it was two spot monkey ish. Yeah. I mean, I don't know about you. I was expecting another one of those mid air collisions like we saw at the Rumble, and we didn't get that. It was, you know, very very smartly contested, like we saw Logan Paul going to the ribs trying to slow down ricochet things like that. Like, it was a very very smart match for two high flying guys. The only thing is is I never know who these like friends of Logan Paul are.

4:18 I'm sure somebody listened to this podcast does because he's very popular. No, I had no clue who the hell was the person that put the brass knucks on his hand for the victory. And just like I didn't know who KSI was from WRESTLEMANI this year when he came down that prime mascot outfit against Seth Rollins. So that's really the only thing. It makes me feel old, But love murhadum Logan. Paul is a phenomenal athlete and he's really picked up wrestling and he's been a fun character since he came on several years ago. Next match here is Cody Rhodes. IFITTI and Brock Lessler, we both did. Cody Rhodes getting the victory. A very well booked match. It looked like your standard Brock Lesser match, except Cody rose. Cody Rhodes would not stay down. Cody persevered, overcoming the beast and receiving the most important thing Lessner has rarely done, and that has given his respect to his opponent post match in the ring. The vote of confidence raised Cody's game and Jody could be the guy in dwe. I thought it was telling. Cody defeated Brock literally the same way he'd almost defeated Rains at rustum Ny thirty nine in April. Great match. Doctor Try really enjoyed how this was. But Cody Rhodes defeating Brock Lessner. Yeah, this was like I didn't know if this matched the top the Ricochet Logan Paul match, and I thought it was a fantastic match, Like this is kind of It was a lot of old school storytelling with you know a little bit of you know, Cody's new school style mixed in, you know, the top rope Cody cutter, Brock taking that I don't know aboutjub I was like, really, whoa Brock took that move?

5:46 Okay, but yeah, it was It was all about David overcoming golife in this one, and he finally did in the end. So getting that handshake, I mean I could probably count on one hand how many times Brock. I've seen Brock shake somebody's hand. I think it's once. Maybe I don't know, But to actually get that post match, I thought that was really telling. And then also sets up for Brock comes back Brock and come back into a baby face because Cody won him over. I guess. Next match it was La and I winning the SummerSlam Battle Royal sponsored by Slim Jim, which is not sponsor the show. I had La and I doctor Trey Bobby Lashley, who was not in the match, but you went, you went deep cut there to get the get the victory in this one nonetheless fun Battle Royal, w makes the right calng goes with the fan response to finally equal the crowd reaction to victories for l A Night, Yeah, Doctor Trey La and I gets a victory. Yeah it was. It was an okay Battle Royal. I didn't get it wasn't like I've seen some better ones recently, better booked ones. The O Moss stuff I thought was pretty cool.

6:50 Uh. My only complaint was at one point Omas picked up Butch and Riddle and Corey Graves, didn't you know mention, Hey those are former nx C Tag Team champions. He's just throwout you know, like that's a yep. Yeah. So outside of that, like it was fine, it helps La Night get over some more. But then, you know, how do you go from winning a Battle Royal too, I don't want to say dropping back down to Miss, but doesn't that feel kind of like a step down from winning a Battle Royal at SummerSlam? I don't know. I think the Miss stuff is more like cementing him as a baby face, because who's like one of the more hated heels in the company. But the Miss. Yeah, I think the biggest thing to me is and who knows that this is gonna be longer if this is longer term, But La Knight is a SmackDown guy showing up on raw right now for no reason whatsoever and may be feuding with the Miss, So I think the more outside of that as well. I actually I hate to do this, but I didn't think La Night did a good job in that promo back and forth with the Miss this past month, which kind of goes down into this deeper path that I've I've had on the rundown for the podcast the last couple of weeks. What we just haven't gotten to it is is there's this you know, organic meteoric rise right now for La Night. And I usually get behind these things and I like l A Night, but I'm not to the level of the crowd reaction he's getting.

8:22 And I don't know if that's because I remember him in Impact Wrestling as Eli Drake. He did a run with NWA for a little bit as well. I mean, he's he's been out there for a long time. He was with an NXT for like almost two years, and you know, I grew up in the Attitude era, and I get that they're playing off on that he's a throwback to the Attitude era. But I mean, there is so many similarities to Steve Austin and The Rock that it kind of becomes a little corny. I don't know if I'm fully behind the La Night you know, Organic Rise like everybody else is right now, doctor try you know, I see the comparisons to Austin and Rock and it doesn't really bother me because I can look at other guys on the roster and go, yeah, I mean this guy's kind of like this or this guy's very similar to this guy.

9:11 My issue with the La Night Rise is that you're absolutely right, like everybody thinks he's a great promo. Miss smoked him, like Miss I mean, he couldn't touch Miss Monday Night. But that's the part of the issue is there's no depth to the character yet, and he's been all over the map, you know, since coming onto the scene. We saw few with Bray Wyatt, and then you know, he's over here, then he's over there, and so like, we really haven't fleshed out who La Night is. And that's one of the things it does like miss calling him flavor of the month. I'm like, yeah, right now, I do kind of feel like he's flavor of the month until we get some more depth to this character.

9:52 So you know, fans are gonna cheer for who they cheer for, and you know, we really haven't had a guy that's that's had a great catchphrase to really spark the crowd. Maybe since the Daniel Bryant Yes movement, maybe this is it, But we do need some more depth to the La Night character for me to fully get on board. Yeah, and I think that they're missing the boat a little bit with his theme music, Like how are they not kicking that off with just like him doing yeah to to kick off? Not that weird like l A Night robot voice, Like yeah, I don't know, a little strange, but I don't know. I don't know if we'll start continue to dig deep here on the L and Night stuff. But I'm not on the same level as as most of the fan base right now. It's really enjoyable to watch because it's rare that you see this happen. But yeah, I mean he's been around for a while, I mean kind of know who he is. Shandon Baysler defeats ron A Rousing and an MMA rules match. We both at Shandon Basler getting victory. Bold Booking moved by w to hold this match after a shotgun feud and with the MMA rules stipulation. The crowd was dead and the stipulation of an MMA rules match doesn't really bode well for wrestling fans. Nonetheless, for what it was, I thought it was a fine match that made booking sense, with Shanea joking out Ron to help elevate her during Rousey's latest w E exit, Doctor Trey your thoughts, So, I actually really enjoyed this, and you know this, I'm not a big UFC guy. I have never, like outside of the the Tito Ortiz, Rampeys, Jackson, Chuck Liddell era of UFC not

11:22 really got in behind it. I like this for the technicalities of it, like the you know, the submission holds and how they encounter them. Also, you know, you see Shana showing up, you know, Monday Night with the black eyes, like I feel like they were really fighting. Jeff, Yeah, I know there was, I know there was you know, of course some pro wrestling mixed in there, but there were times in there I'm like, I think these two ladies who are best friends are really throwing down right now. So I really enjoyed. I know the crowd wasn't into it, and I get it. It's not your typical standard WWE thing. It's not we've never had a match like this before. But just for the science and the technical prowess of watching those two ladies counter each other's submission moves and doing them in ways that I hadn't seen before, I was like, this was pretty cool. So it didn't have the sizzle that made most of SummerSlam has, but you know, it was a really good, solid entree at least. Next match, here's gun Through defeating Drew Mcatar to retain the w W Intercountinental Championship. We both had gun Through again. The victory match what we would expect from gun Through and Drew, hard hitting and entertaining and well booked. The finished a surprised because it fell short and gun Thro went on a metally of big moves to put Drew away. Dutch Trey your thoughts, there's gun Through retains When was the last time we saw Drew get defeated cleanly? Like clean? You know that was that was really telling to me as well, Like, and I don't want to say this match as a letdown, but yeah, it felt like there was still some stuff to go through. And then you know, even post match, Drew walking away and

12:54 I'm like, this is the last time I see Drew again for a little while. Like this just kind of felt. It felt odd, and I mean it's hard hitting as hell. He saw the welts on both guys. I mean, they were beating the crap out of each other, but the finish was really really strong for Gunther, and I'm like, we're going from Gunther and Drew to Gunther and Gable. Like that's a weird transition to go with. But you know, I'm happy for Chad Gable at least, but it's just kind of weird. We look at like the threat of somebody beating Gunther's like is Chad Gable that guy? When Riddle and MacIntyre couldn't do it? So weird transition, Okay, match, Yeah, just kind of like it wasn't on the level what wrestle media was. I guess that's why it kind of bugs me. Gun Thur will be taken on Chad Gable. I believe this Monday on Raft Chad Gable one a really great fatal four away match with Ricochet, tomasel Champ and Matt Riddle. He looks poised and primed to end Hockey Talk Man's long as inter cardinal title Ragin Dr Trey. I'm here for it, and I think I think most fans are as well. Yeah, and I think part of it is also is like this is what w loves when they have a falling out with somebody, to put somebody up in the record books to replace them. Hockey has not been a WWE guy really in quite a long time. So although I wish miss had done it years ago when he had his countdown to the record, but Santino had one too.

14:26 Santino had one also. I mean, the the Honky meter was one of my favorite things back in the days when as a kid, but the Gunther meter does have the same ring to it. But he's been dominant even though he looks like he does. I don't know about you, he looks weird since he lost the weight. I'm like, I liked him bigger. I liked him better when he was bigger, But I mean, like Drew looked like a pro wrestler compared to Gunther. Gunther looked like an angry grandfather who came out to chied a child for getting in their yard, you know as SummerSlam. That's an interesting analogy that you threw out there. Didn't see that looks like Walter math Ou a little bit. Yeah, I guess, I guess, I don't know. Look at for all you, for all you young people out there in for Jeff Peck, go look at a picture of young Walter Mathou. Okay, he looks like Gunther, Young Walter Mathou.

15:15 I guess I'm gonna have to take a look at this. Yere real quick, young Walter math Ou. I'm sure I spelled it. Maybe the hair, I don't know, man, hare's the ears, it's nothing, I don't know. It's just like he just reminds me. He just looks like a grumpy old man. No, hey, that's that's the whole German deal, right, Yeah, that's true. I mean, even even like Ludwig Kaiser looks like he's I think Kaiser's like thirty two, and he looks like he looks like he's a fifty two year old man. Like he just looks pissed off. Also like Vinci being the one Italian in the group is the guy who actually looks his age. Yeah, no, that's true, that's true. Yeah, well that's the Italians. You know. I could say that because I am you know, I mean to me And this could be a good deep dive someday. It's like, how the hell do you turn Gunther baby face? At some point? Like how does he have a baby face run? I just don't. I don't see it anytime sim But I'm happy that Gunther's probably going to surpass the intercontinal title ragin because I think Triple H wants one of his guys to have that spot. By the way, think about if you think of Gunther's two title rains he's had in this company, it's over a thousand days on two title rings, because he had the UK title for over six hundred days and now part of it that was because of the pandemic and stuff, but six other days as UK champion over four days as Intercontinal champion, that's pretty damn impressive. It is, it is, And that just goes to show you how much like Triple H really likes and respects him, and and I'm for that. I think I think

16:48 next year twenty twenty four, if I'm putting stock and a guy for having a big twenty twenty four, it would be Gunther right now. So I think he is going to be somebody that will be a you know, part of the face of the company here in the next decade plus going forward. Next match here, Seth Freaking, Rollins, ifeeding Finn Boaler retained the de w WE World Evweight Championship. We both had Finn Balor after I convinced Doctor Trey to finally pick Finn Balor. Great match, the final five minutes was a lot of fun. Looking forward to seeing how they internal strife and the judgment day seming from this match plays out, especially from what we saw this past Monday on Raw. Doctor Trey initial thoughts here on the match Seth Freak and Rollins getting the victory. Damn Jeff Peck forgetting me to change my pick.

17:33 But you know, I really enjoyed this match, and those guys have great chemistry. I mean the power bomb spot that you know, Finn hit Seth on the floor, the top, the throwbacks to the match from seven years ago, you know, both guys paying homage of that match with Seth coming out the original ring vests, you know, Finn having the seven and then highlighting where the scar is on his torn labor. I'm like, all that stuff is so good. The match was good, Judgment day playing into it, the stuff with the briefcase, like, all that stuff was really really well done. You had me on board, though. I was looking forward to seeing Finn with the title, and you know, Damien teasing the cash in the entire time, but they're going in a different route, but the feud continues on and now you're just sliding Cody Rhodes into the mix as well. Well, let's talk about the great booking here. So there have been two times so far this year where Cody Rhodes is in line to challenge Seth Rons. I think he did it. Was going to do it after Money the Bank, looking towards SummerSlam and Brock returned, and then that got stopped, like he was on the verge of saying something from a microphone, and then Brock came out and then they had that brawl, and then he does it after the Brock feud. It looks like they're poised for most of the show that it's going to be those two got to be feuding moving forward, heading to do I believe Payback in September, and then Shinsky Kamara takes out Seth Rollins to close out Raw this past week, which now makes you believe to believe that maybe Cody's gonna go feud with Judgment for a little bit

19:03 while Shin and Seth Rollins do some sort of match at Payback. Thoughts on the way that they're booking this, Doctor Trede, it seems like they're elastic banning a little bit where they dip their toe just to touch to give you Cody versus Seth. Cody gonna be setting a sights on the World of aweight championship, and then recently it was like, okay, now the foot's in, He's getting in the water. But then they kind of pull it back. If we're going to get Shinska and Seth moving forward. Maybe they're saving this for Survivor series, maybe they're saving this for Royal Rumble, but they're making the anticipation grow for an eventual Seth Rollins Cody Rhodes World of aweight Championship match, which I'm digging. Do you see it the same way that I am? Yeah, it's so we were throwing back to old wrestling. It reminds me a little bit of Macho Man Hogan, you know, back in the day where they're the two most popular guys in the company. They would kind of tease stuff and then they finally went full fledged. I don't know if they're gonna a full fledged, you know, megapowers explode type of thing here. But you know we've talked about the show. I hate heel heel matches and I hate baby face baby face matches because the crowd isn't is into those as your traditional matchups. I do think they're dipping their toes in the water to try and hedge their bets. Like I wouldn't be surprised if we had a match here the next couple of months and that's when Priests cashes in, like where Cody actually wins the title, but then Priest cashes in and Cody only gets that short little run. To me, I'm still on board with Cody and Roman at next year's WrestleMania for Cody to get the payback against

20:36 Roman, but you know, they may pull the trigger on it sooner and get him on with the World Heavyweight Championship. Next matchers Bianca Belaire defeating Osca and Charlotte Flair, and a triple front match to win the w W World WW Women's Championship almost called the Women's World Heavyweight Championship, which is owned by Ray Ripley presently Osca, who we had winning that match, did not. Both Doctor Trey and I fun triple threat match. Some original spots I've never seen before in a triple threat match. I liked the Bianca bel Air injury angle that led into the next match, which we'll get to in just a second. But Doctor Trader thoughts on the triple threat match, Yeah, actually that was so when the match started, like, okay, this is my chance at you take a break for a minute. So I was able to go get some food and I came back in for the last like eight minutes of it, and the last eight minutes was fantastic. I had loved, you know, the Bianca injury spot. I like. By the way, kudos for WW whoever it was directing the show, if it's Kevin Dunner somebody else, to not show the knee hitting the stairs or the knee actually knee injury, but because otherwise that would have given it away that it was, you know, a work, but overall, like the match was really fine.

21:41 It was a great finish, like the miss in the face, the small package roll up while still in the figure four. That's all stuff I've never seen before. So being a wrestling fan of forty years is still see stuff you haven't seen before. It's pretty great. A little surprised they had Bianca go over it, just because, like why I think it's a chase, Doctor Trey. I think it's all about the chase, which we'll talk about the next match here. So but yeah, overall, like it was a really really damn good women's tripple. Thresh by the way, before we move on, so we have the women's championship in the women's heavyweight championship. Yeah, so does that mean nobody under over or nobody under two or five pounds can challenge Rea Ripley, Doctor Trey, you know how this goes.

22:30 I mean that ship does not apply anymore. I mean because Lord loves seth Rons. But I mean I think you can make a case that he's probably like, what two fifteen, I would say he's two oh six, So that way he's on. Who wasn't the had the oh was the back of the cruisery division where we had was Buddy, Yeah, Buddy, Matthews had to constantly keep you on the way he is. I think we need to have Seth have every a prop way in to make sure they're over two oh five so they can challenge him, because Finn would not be over two h five. I'm with you. I just think it's to be world champion, WE champion, stuff like that not universal. I am not a fan of that name for a title, but yeah, I am totally with you on all that stuff. Next match here is EO Sky defeating Bianco Belair to win the WE Women's Championship. We obviously did not predict this match, so EO Sky cashes in gets the victory is the new women's champion after defeating the brand new women's champion, Bianco Belair. It was starting to feel like a cashing was possible once Bianco won, but it was a nice surprise ultimately to see the Eo climb the mountain and win the championship. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out with Bianco being injured. Overcoming the obstacle to the injury by winning the championship back, only to lose it in a matter of minutes to EO Sky. It was also great to see Dakota Kai back to celebrate as well, because she deserved that moment. Damage Control deserved that moment a group that was kind of floundering the last six to eight months, and here we are EO Sky climbing the mountain Doctor Tree. I'm happy for EO.

23:55 She's awesome, So congratulations to her. Yeah, I love EO. She's also there the one who introduced me to music by Poppy, so I'm thankful to that as well. I actually don't like I like Poppy. She's actually pretty good musicians, So yeah, no, look, this is really cool. Like I've been a big EO fan ever since her time in n XT. I love where she went crazy and everything else, So I'm really happy about this. It's, also, like you said, kind of brings up the level of damage Control again. And then where does Bailey fit in this? Because you saw Bailey out there right decide EO cleaning house to help EO get the win. But you know Bailey's and Alpha so does this, and they had tension all the you know, the last few months as well, since Dakota's injury, So does Bailey turn on EO and make EO a baby face? And how does that play in? And then I don't know if you saw this report, but Kyrie's saying maybe coming back to w W as well, great minds think alike here. That was gonna be the next thing I brought up. So reports coming out over the weekend, Kyro you saying is honor way back to due with November being a potential return date Kabuki Warriors maybe reunion. But it looks like Kyrie is not gonna be sticking around bushy roads stardom New Japan. The face there's Mercedes Mona had some offers reportedly from AW. She decides to go back to the company that she knows and that is WWW. So good big signing here by WWE. Kyrie saying back in the fold, and we'll have to see where where this takes us. Maybe we're kind of seeing the seeds being planted right now with a Kyrie same return.

25:26 Yeah, and then maybe you know, EO, Osca and Kyrie all work together, or we get Kabuki Warriors and damage control. Like I don't know, I think the crowd actually really wants to cheer damage control like they. I mean, everybody loves Bailey. Bailey is he heals great? Bailey is a baby face, is great. Eo wrestles like a baby face. Everybody likes Dakota as well, So you know, I could see them going that route as well. And then how does Bianca and Charlotte fit back into this picture that all of a sudden got really really crowded at the top. Well, that's what I was going to ask you here, So you know, the potential road could be that Bianca got cheated out of her championship at nine of champions right, she got the mist in the eyes. I think Oscar sprayed it on her fingers, got it in her eyes. That's how she got the victory. She finally wins a championship back she's injured, but then Eo Sky cashes in. So now you could be getting the direction of she's fighting back for you know, trying to overcome adversity, Bianca belair, or you go the route where she continues to get cheated out that Brett Hart cry baby era which helped turned her turn him heel. I love Bianca as a baby face, but if you go back to those NXC days, Bianca as a heel was pretty damn amazing as well, and that's she was a heel predominantly. I don't think there was ever a time that she was a baby face and NXC and I felt like she's been getting stale a little bit lately, and I feel like maybe a heel turns coming because fans do want to cheer on EO Sky Doctor Trey. I feel Bianca there are times that

27:00 they want to make her the female John Cena and you know, not Turner. But once again, I think Bianca's stuff's a little stale. I agree with you that the crowd wants to cheer EO. Plus you have the tie in with whatever they do with Bobby lash in the street profits. You know, are the profits turning heel and going with Lashley? If they do that, could Bianca join them because we you know, and then have that rival group to actually what Judgment day is. So there are ways to go with this, and like you said, I agree that I think the crowd wants to cheer EO. The only thing is, once again, where do you fit Charlotte is because as much as we all respect Charlotte, Charlotte as a baby face never works, so I kind of liked her playing that tweenter role between Bianca and Osca. So it's gonna be interesting to see how they fit her into this picture as well, because I mean, I mean, there's reports out that they want her to be a seventeen time Women's Champion, and she's only two away from that number, So how does she fit in it?

28:00 Because there's also reports I read that she was to go into professional bodybuilding more and take more time away from WWE. Yeah, it's interesting times from the woman division and how they're going to go about this. Obviously, creative has an idea as always, or audience's organic reactions may change all that. So I think it's a pretty cool time to see how these SmackDown Woman's division is going to be going forward. And then finally the main event here of Roman Rains defeats Jay Usso in a tribal combat match to retain the undisputed go to a Universal championship and recognition as the tribal chief. We both had Roman Rains getting the victory. Good match, great storytelling. I'm interesting how the Jimmy Usso turn plays out on television heading into the Payback pay per view.

28:40 The Bloodline storyline continues to be really good and taking turns that you least expect, like Jimmy Ussos turning on Jay since Jay went to this match to defend his brother's honor after he was laid out by Roman and Solo. What's good about this storyline stuff is when you think it's going one way, it goes another. That's when you have a lot of good professional wrest in storylines. I know this match is quite debated post Summer Slam, right now, I enjoyed it, Doctor Trey, what were your thoughts here as Roman Reigns defeated Jay Usso, yeah, I enjoyed it, and it got me to buy in more into Jay being a main event guy. I know that's his nickname because he may invented a town of Smackdowns, but main eventing pay per views is different. Like, this was really really entertaining. It helped elevate j upper level. You got the sympathy factor of his own twin brother turning on him, which I'm gonna be interested in SmackDown because I want to see how they tell this story because, like you said, he went in this match defending his brother it was his brother that turned on Roman first. So it's like, all right, and then I'm gonna be interested like who they move into, you know, side with Jay in this because the one thing SmackDown really hasn't done is helped elevate the next baby face up because all the baby faces that Roman had kind of defeated and moved over to raw. So who do you slide up into that into that space between now and Survivors series.

30:07 So the whole situations, like you said, just when you think it's going one way, it goes another. Now the whole situation is kind of influx. Maybe it's solo because we saw a little bit of tension at Summer Slam was solo in Romans. So I'm gonna be interesting to see how they played this story out and where it goes from here, because right now, like it's entertaining, but you're kind of at that weird cross roads where we're like it could either go really really well and keep me entertained, or you know, are they going to jump the shark so to speak. We'll get into a little bit more about the Jimmy and Jay stuff here momentarily, but Paper View Prediction Records coming out of SummerSlam, I went six and two. Doctor Trey went five and three. On the year, I'm at seventy two and twenty five Doctor Trey sixty six and thirty one. Match of the night and event rating. I gave Summer Slam a four point three out of five and my match of the night was Cody Roads and brock Lessner Doctor Trey. What say you? I was four point two, so I was a little bit under you, but I also had Cody and Brock. I decided that was really great storytelling and the very like old school in new school blended properly.

31:12 So there you go. I agree with you absolutely and that for you. And again we talked about it here. The last couple of months caught us by surprise. We weren't in favor of it, and then they quickly want us over. So props to Cody and Brock and Match and I for both Doctor Trey and I four point three to four point two ratings as well. So another solid pay per view from World West Entertainment. And now they move on towards Payback. But in a couple of weeks it'll be all about AWS, all in and all out. We'll be taking our attention moving forward here and we'll talk about all in London here soon. Jimmy US Versus j US it's coming up here, Doctor Trey. You can make a case like Damn, I don't want to see the US's break up. They're the greatest tag team of all time. They're probably right now in their prime, the greatest prime of any tag team we've ever seen in the history of WI and professional wrestling ever because of how elevated they are, I mean, headlining WrestleMania is no other tag team can say they've ever done that right now, other than Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane also, but like a legit, we came in day one as a tag team and main event and WrestleMania. No one else gonna say that like the USOS. So now we're getting this Jimmy versus Jay layer to it. As you and I recorded the show. Obviously, we have not seen SmackDown because it airs on Friday. We don't know why Jimmy did what he did. The setup for this match was perfect I thought in SummerSlam going into it, and then the turn of Jimmy on Jay was something I did not predict and really enjoyed seeing. With that said, I look

32:42 at this and all I could think about is back in nineteen ninety three. November nineteen ninety three, I came home to sit down and watch Survivor series at my parents' house. I was a young six seven year old at that point, and I was looking forward to the Heart Family taking on Jerry Lawler and his Knights. Well, Jerry Lawler got in a little bit of trouble and then the Knights were led by Shawn Michaels. In that match, Owen Hart turned on Brett Hart and the family. Or is actually what happened was he was the only one that was eliminated because everybody was tending to I think Brett who was knocked off the apron. They were feuding around Christmas time. They reconciled and then they went to a tag team match at Royal Rumble nineteen ninety four where Brett and Owen would be taken on the Quebecers. Brett got hurt in that match with his knee and they lost Owen. At the end of the match, they were, you know, Owen you could tell was visibly upset, but they're trying to make amends and he kicks the knee out, the bad knee out from underneath Brett Hart and starts a huge feud with Brett Hart that goes on for about three years until they reconcile and create the Heart Foundation, just prior to Brett's exit from WWE for a very long time.

33:53 So now we have a potential similar Brett versus Owen Hart with Jimmy and Jay and Brett versus Owen is one of my favorite feuds of all time. It got me into professional wrestling to the degree that I am right now. Do you think this Jimmy and Jay usso feud could be on that level of Brett versus Owen. I don't know if it'll be on that level because of one caveati that there's the cool factor for me, which is these are twins. They literally for the better part of their entire run in w B, I couldn't tell them apart. Thankfully, of the last couple of years.

34:34 They have different hairstyles, so I can kind of distinguish them now, but for the most part could never tell them apart. The Owen Brett thing was little brother, big brother, and almost anybody that has a brother can relate to that the twin aspect of it is a little bit of a different dynamic. Also, you know, Brett had already been a world champion. O was still looking for his place. You know, Jimmy and Jay have been equals the entire time, Like neither of them have a singles championship. You know, they've never won tag team championships without the other. So it's a little bit different in that level because there's not a top guy feuding with his little brother. These are guys who are perceived to be on very similar levels.

35:20 I think the twin aspect of it could help the dynamic, but I just don't know if they're on that level of where Brett Nohan were. And I mean, you can't relate to having a twin brother. I can't really tapping a twin brother. I can really having a little brother. And you know, we always bumped heads a lot growing up, just because you know, I was good at certain things. He was trying to get on my level. He was better other things than me, and I was always trying to compete with him. So it's gonna be an interesting dynamic because we had a little bit with you know, Solo and Jay. That's little brother, big brother. But you know, Jimmy and Jay is a different dynamic. It's like having a Bree and Nikki had a feud that would they did, and that was not good. No, And that's what I'm worried about, because you know, it's it's well, there's wasn't good because neither of them could really wrestle for that time when they were actually in a feud, but some of the worst vignettes of all times as well. But I did see an interview with Jay recently or he said his dream match was to wrestle Jimmy.

36:21 So I'm really on board and cool with this because you know, we talked on this show a lot. Best friends, like real life best friends. Would they have feuds? They're great matches. This is real life twin brothers. I mean, who would you trust more than your twin brother in a match to keep you safe? So I think the matches would be great. I just don't know if you know thirty years or you know, thirty years from now, you're referring to nineteen ninety's thirty years ago. If thirty years from now, I'd be like, hey, remember that Jimmy and Jay feud. I just don't know if it's gonna be a full fledged feud or just you know, kind of a one off thing to reunite the bloodline. So Bruss some interesting points there where Owen was the little brother chasing the big brother. At that point, Brett was a one time w World champion, I think, multiple Interconal champion, tag team title reins King of the Ring at that point, and so he's really in the shadow of his brother.

37:15 Could you make a similar case though with Jimmy looking at Jay, because Jay has been hugely successful during these last three years of this bloodline storyline. I mean he I mean remember that he won like a number one contender Battle Royal. Then that started the whole Bloodline stuff, and he was battling Roman I think in Helen a Cell and we were like, man, what is Jay usso during this doing in this spot? And he won everybody over and a couple of weeks ago we talked on them about on the show like he's the most compelling wrestler in all of the game right now, Like fans seem to really be gravitating towards him, and he has been. He got a great reaction on Friday Night SmackDown. That carried over to SummerSlam as well, where he was getting the crowd to like really be into his entrance and it was really cool to see, Like Jay has a ton of chrisma. While I get the point of the comparisons that we're trying to make you with Brett Nowen, it is similar in a way as well. I think it's like fifty percent Brett Nohen and then like fifty percent Sean and Marty Jannetti, where Jimmy is becoming the Marty Jeannetti of this group and Jay is starting to surpass.

38:20 I mean call it like you see if they're both extremely talented, and I really like both of them, but from a creative booking standpoint, Jay has far exceeded any expectations and Jimmy really hasn't climbed that much yet. If they do a long term feud here they do a short term feud, Jimmy could be on that same level. So I feel like that there is the jealousy that comes to these brothers storylines, these siblings storylines, and I feel like it's fifty percent Brett Nohen and fifty percent Sean and Marty right now, Yeah, No, that I can see because you can play in the Jealzy angle because it was supposedly the elder that selected Jay for this match to be travel combat, not Jimmy. If you go back a few weeks ago, it was Jimmy that told Roman that Jay should not be a tribal chief, you know. So there is that aspect of it, you know, and Jimmy's can always you know, bring up the fact that, like Jimmy's the one who's been injured more, you know, you go back to that first Hell to Cell, Jimmy was out with injury, and then we had the Dui stuff as well, So Jimmy's had more bad luck and bad breaks than Jay, and Jay's been able to capitalize on it. But it's like I said, that twin dynamic is gonna be so interesting to see how they play this thing out, uh, you know, and then where does Solo fall in everything else? Because I could see them almost doing a reverse, you know, from a couple of months ago and seeing Roman and Jimmy against Solo and Jay. So it's if they do a short term for you, and I

39:52 think it helps Jay, not Jimmy, But if they do a longer term for you, This could be the thing that you mentioned with Owen and Brett where Jimmy gets the credibilit that Jay already has in the eyes of the fans. Yeah, I mean we kind of saw the Solo Roman wrinkle there with the spear and so a little being upset and staring at him, and the times that Solo is looking at Roman have been pretty compelling as well. So it's a layer to the storyline I did not see. It has me excited days later after someone Summer sim going to see where things go. And it also is more than likely going to be taking Roman off a television here for a little bit where I just can't see him performing at Payback. I know that there's an injury to Roman Reigns that happened early on in the match with Ju, so I think the latest support from Fightful is that it isn't isn't that serious that should keep him out at any length of time, which is great for us as wrestling fans. You know, the last time Roman, outside of this past Saturday, defended the Universal Championship was actually wrestle mating against Cody, so it isn't out of the roma possibility that the next time Roman Defensis Championship could be Survivor Series in November given the gap that we saw in between. So I'm excited for Jimmy and Jay. It could keep things going forward here on SmackDown, we'll see the role that Solo Soko plays and we'll see where all this heads on Friday SmackDown, where I believe there's like a re acknowledgement ceremony or something like that that are like a Hail to the Chief ceremony that they're doing with Jimmy Usso towards Romans. So I'm excited because Brett Nowen is one of my favorite storylines of all time, and I think the

41:22 relatable siblings storyline, when played out correctly not Nikki and Burrie, can be a really really good stuff on WW television. Speaking of Roman reigns here, Doctor Trey, there was report going into Summer Slam. I believe on Saturday I read it that Romans WWE title reign will end when quote whenever Roman reigns and Paul Hayman Effens say end quote. I don't know if there's any truth to this at all, but it obviously comes off very egotistical. I think the thing that I take away from it when you when you just kind of think and it's wow. Really, how they're going about this is more like when Roman decides to go to Hollywood, Like that, to me is what we're going to see at some point here, Roman's gonna go in the footsteps of Rock Sina, what have you. But when you look at this, it's like, wow, Like if that's legit? What's thinking? Like whenever they whenever they decide it's over, it's over. That's pretty bad ass because a three year title rain coming up here in a couple of weeks, and most of the time when that happens, wrestling fans are like, oh shit, they're just you know, jam and x y Z wrestler down our throat here. You know, John Cena is being jammed down our throat here time and time again. I have never once felt that way in three years, and in fact, I wanted to hold on it. If it's going to continue to be like this great of storylines and matches, I want Roman hold on to it as long as possible as possible. So I'm down with whenever

42:55 Roman and Paul Hamman decide it's over. So I, by the way, first off, I forgot to mention this when we're doing the recap. Props to Roman for taking those leather strap shots because everyone he got hit with cut him open. I don't know if you notice that, Like, but the elbow was bleeding bad. The next shot him in the back and instantly he was bleeding from it. I'm like, that's a dude that you know doesn't have to take stuff like that, and he did, so I gave him a lot of props for that. I read a similar report where it said the other way that belt comes off him is if with the approval of Vince and Roman, So like, if if Vince is behind it, Roman's got the poll. Yeah, it might be a long time coming, but you're absolutely right. Like, I know there are some of the casual fans that are kind of sick of Roman being on top. But once again, like you look at the roster, there's a lot of talented guys on the roster, but is there anybody that could put together a storyline like this and be as compelling and not just compelling in this sense of like we've seen Roman doing comedy, We've seen Roman doing you know, serious stuff. We've seen Roman the bully, We've seen Roman joking around like this run of his has shown more depth to his character than maybe the previous ten years he had in WWE.

44:17 So it's really great television with a great character. So it's hard for me to go I want to you know, I need a different character. No, it's a damn good television character that we've seen run now for three years. If it was a TV show, we'd be clamoring for more of it. But because it's wrestling and people like new stuff. Uh, you know, you hear some people groaning about it, but I'm with you, like, I'm on board for it. I like the run. It's helped elevate a bunch of people around him. Although I think Solo has somehow learned learned to not speak English in this run, because I'm pretty sure he spoke pretty good English in NXT, but somehow this process. After the spear, he was just point at his stomach and growl like Mike Toddler, like Sammy does when he's hungry. Hey listen, we all we all lose that language once you make the man roster call up. But yeah, we're here for it. Let the Roman reigns Toddle right continue is if he wants to continue wrestling and feels like he should be a champion. They've done nothing wrong for nearly three years. I am here for it, every storyline, every match.

45:22 It is one of the greatest runs I've ever seen professional wrestling. It's been so enjoyable and I'm not hating on at all, and i don't feel like I've seen too much. I've wanted to see Moore in fact, so great stuff. I'm here for it. Whenever you guys fucking say is fine with me. And then finally to wrap things up here with ALI Wrestling, no more WI Talk, it was announced All in London will be headlined with the AW World Championship match. MJF taken on Adam Cole. We've seen MJF take on this baby face persona. Adam Cole has gotten this out of him. They seem to be buddy buddy. It's been a strange turn, a strange storyline, but a storyline that is different and fun and new, and I'm enjoying it and being entertained. But I simply ask you, doctor Troy Wembley Stadium. Over seventy seven thousand tickets sold right now. MGF and Adam Cold the headline and for the AW World Championship. Is this the right call up if you're trying to grow the company and you know both these guys are going to be around for a while. Yeah, My question is MJ has contracts up next year. Adam Cole, it's kind of a Triple H guy.

46:34 You know, that was the guy when when the Saudi Arabia flights got canceled, we got to show up NXT and a SmackDown. Who was the guy Triple H picked to headline SmackDown? Adam Cole? So it's a little bit of on paper, if these are my two bankable stars and this is who I'm trying to help build this thing around, it makes a ton of sense. But once again, both these guys could be gone in a year, so then you kind of have to question it a little bit. But I'm fine with it. Are they the biggest stars in the company. No, But is the best storyline going in the company? Yeah, and you still got a little time to make it a little more intense heading into it. So yeah, I'm good with it. And it's probably the right call by Tony Kahn long term for AW to have these guys headlining. Yeah, It's a cool call, It's an interesting call. It may not be the main event in the eyes of the fans, depending on whatever they decide to do here for All in Wembley going on right now, but it was the first match that was announced. We're still waiting on FTR Young Bucks to become official, but I do feel like this is the right call. It's been the few that's been taken over the summer. It's been a very enjoyable storyline and I'm intrigued to see how we get to all in London right now?

47:46 Is this baby face m jeff for real? Are they going to remain buddy? Buddy? Is the devil still in there? I don't know. We saw a after air, off air promo or way that MJFF carried himself when they thanked Tony KHN for two hundred episodes of Dynamite recently, and he was all baby face and it wasn't a type of character or stick. Maybe it's here, Maybe it's here to stay. He was defending the women's division recently on Twitter. I mean, he completely went off of the normal character that we've seen from MJFF. Maybe this is they finally pulled the trigger on the baby face MJFF. We're gonna probably be talking about that in the coming weeks here heading into All In. But is this the right call to headline All in London. Absolutely, It's been the focus of a double over the last several weeks and makes a ton of sense. So MJFF Adam Cole will be headlining All in London Wembley Stadium again. We'll be getting you ready for All in London all out here in the coming weeks. It'll be here before you know it, and then we'll have preview, predictions, recap and reviews for both those shows, All In, All Out, All In towards the end of the month as we close up summer. Unfortunately. With that said, let's close up this week's edition of the show by getting a couple of plugs and sponsors out of the way. You can downlo the show every Thursday or Friday at Real, Got Rated, dot com, Russell chatt Net, on x and the store Real at the Show iTunes, feed the Victoria views of straw device called Climbed the charts on iTunes. You can follow us individually on

49:19 X for myself at SRTU Jeff for Doctor Try Franklin, The Doctor Trey and of course don't forget to follow the show on x at SRTU podcasts. With that being said, what's going on in the one forul world of Doctor Trey Franklin this week? Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on x Twitter at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook Doctor tre Franklin when you're on Facebook. I got rocket Stage Championship Wrestling and Spartan Championship Wrestling my favorite shows here in the Alabama area. And by the way, folks, I was not involved in the riverboat brawl that everybody is seeing sparking up, although I actually know that location and it's right It's right down the road from one of my offices, so I know it very well.

50:04 But now, between the riverboat fight and the Leprichn video of years past and uh all the guy that they said they out here raping everybody, those all three of those videos are from Alabama. So yeah, that should be on our tourism board. Hey, anybody wants to see that Lepricn say yeah, yeah, one of my favorite Internet videos of all times, that one. So there you go, support all the great things that support SR to you and join us on next week's edition of The Still Realtor Show as once again we get you ready for all in and All Out, and that will be on August the seventeen, So until next week. For Dr F Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. Thank you for downloading. This has been the still Real good show. Didn't didn't didn't the