WWE SummerSlam Predictions and Hogan's Legacy A Week Later | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #807 – 07/31/25

0:00 It's still real to me, damn it! [MUSIC] Welcome everybody, welcome to this week's edition of the Storilla Show episode of our 807 for July 31, 2025. This is your WWE Summer's Lamb, preview and predictions edition of SRTU. I am one after the show, I am Jeff Pek, joined every single week of my close-alone, Donutray Franklin. Dr. Trey, are you ready for the biggest party of the summer, my friend?

0:43 So, we're talking about the Major League Baseball Trade deadline, which is tomorrow, right? Yeah, by the time this drops, I mean, hopefully, if some trades here. I know my team's on at least three of them. Yeah, you guys got what Austin Slater? Yeah, good job on that one, but no, yeah, yeah, it was an NXT for a little bit. After the last, is he, what did he, Slater's kids that Slater was talking about 10 years ago? He is, yep, there you go. That's what him and Rhino were fighting for, Austin Slater, New York Yankee. But no, like, given, I was setting off here, given the week I've had with basically 1985 dying for me in the last seven days, I need, I need some fun, I need some excitement, I need some joy, I need the trade deadline to be good, and I need summer slam to be awesome.

1:29 Because it's about celebrities dying in threes, I had it in force. It was for me that just wrecked my week. So, yeah, I am excited about summer slam, I'm excited about possibilities, I'm excited about chaos. I'm excited if things just go status quo and we have a good show. Either way, I'm excited because I need to get something off my brain from what's gone on the last seven days. So Ozzy Hogan Sandberg, who was the fourth? Malcolm Jamal Warner. Oh, yes, the Cosby Show. Yeah, so it was literally like everything I was doing in 1985, which was basically watching the Cosby Show, because Bill was a good guy back then. So watching the Cosby Show, listening to Black Sabbath, watching Hulk Hogan, and then that's when I became a Cubs fan, was the 84/85 season for Donald and it becomes the Ryan Sandberg.

2:19 Yep, that 84 season for the Cubs was magical. Yeah, I mean, Sandberg was the MVP, and that was Harry Carey's, I mean, that's what every day I would get off school, the Cubs were playing in the afternoon, because they didn't have the light sting installed until 89 or 90. So every day afternoon coming from school, I could flip on WGN, and there's Ryan Sandberg hitting home runs for the Cubs. So. Yeah, let's talk about it here, because we did last week's show, the Hogan Tribute Show was about six, seven, eight hours after the news, broke that he had passed away that earlier that day. And I've had a lot of time to really think about the Hogan stuff. I don't think there's ever been, let me preface this by saying Dr. Try, I don't think there's ever been a death like this one.

3:05 That is so under a microscope, quite like Hulk Hogan's. I cannot think usually when like a celebrity passes away, a notable figure, it's people turn over and it's like Ray Mosin butterflies, no matter what happened. This was like one of the most conflicted deaths I could ever remember in my entire lifetime. Yeah, because it is like two people died. Yes, yes, Harry Belayah died. Yes. And a lot of people were like, he was a horrible person and then Hulk Hogan died. I mean, I don't know if you've ever, I can't think, maybe when Harrison Ford died, I'm trying to think of somebody else who's so iconic.

3:50 Harrison Ford? No, I'm saying it when he dies. Okay. I mean, you could say, I mean, you could say Betty White, but she was like university loved. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Probably, you know, who would be comparable is when Trump passes away. Yeah, I would say Trump, Marlon Brando, Brando died. I mean, it might be a little bit too far back for some people to remember. Like Brando as a person, I always heard like really negative things about, but I mean, he's the godfather. Well, it's a very iconic character that people still cling to this day. Well, I'll mention in here because we talked about it on the show. I think probably the most comparable death will be when Vince McMahon passes away.

4:34 What about George Steinbrenner for you? Yeah, I think that's a probably good comparison. Steinbrenner was not beloved pre-1996. And then as the years went on, and they were winning championships, and he became more of like an elderly figure, I felt like Steinbrenner was more appreciated by the fan base. He wasn't as vile and hated for Mike. His first three quarters of running the team. But when he died, I mean, was that 15 years ago, probably? 2010, yeah. Yeah. So you were kind of like on the precipice of really getting into the media and you're in the Northeast area.

5:15 Like, what was the stories like he saved the Yankees, but he was also a crappy person? Well, here's the thing, right? And I think this, you've heard this about Hulk Ogan, and I think you'll eventually hear this about Vince McMahon as well. Is whenever there is someone who is a controversial figure, as you're pointing out here, George Steinbrenner is a great comparison. The amount of people who would share stories about Steinbrenner after he had passed that like he didn't want people to know where he was donating any money for entire wings of hospitals and stuff like that. And he was like, oh, this person was human. And it basically changed the.

5:57 This is going to be interesting because this is going to weave in and out of some of my thoughts on the past week. The Yankees control the narrative of George Steinbrenner passing away. Even to this day when you go to Yankees stadium, there is a huge gigantic mural in the outfield bleachers of George Steinbrenner where it says the year he was born in 2010. The Panaman Park is, which is a place where they keep all their plaques for numbers that they've retired, Hall of Fame players. There's in the dead center of it, no pun intended, is George Steinbrenner, a huge gigantic plaque. And I've always been vehemently against that because I don't think he should have a bigger plaque than any player.

6:38 But they control the narrative. And I think in the last week from Friday Smackdown to now, when you and I record this, and Monday's RAW has been in the books, Tuesday's NXT has been in the books. I think WWE has kind of seen how things were going and did the best they could to control the narrative and legacy of Whole Kogan over the last couple days because Thursday was weird. It was weird because I don't think, you know, I had a lot of feelings from 10 years ago when the racist comments came out. And I remember doing the podcast, talking about it. And I was like heartbroken with the things that he said.

7:22 And I just knew there was going to come a time where his entire legacy changed at that point. He had a lot of bad stuff going on, a lot of bad press. It was the stuff with Bubba the Love Sponges, wife that came out and then the racist comments came out. He's battling Gawker and it was completely tarnishing his legacy. And I was heartbroken over that because I was at the biggest Hulk of Maniac in the world. He wasn't my favorite wrestler from the late 80s, really 90s. But again, this will be things that I've thought about in the last couple days since he passed. It was so closely knit and tied to my childhood.

8:02 So I feel like WWE and really professional wrestling as a whole have tried as a good percentage of the whole has tried to control the narrative. I think that there were a lot of negative comments obviously when he passed away. And this is stuff that is he said it. I mean, it's it's warranted. He was not probably a beloved figure publicly by the time he passed away. His last time in professional wrestling he was booed out of the building in California at the Netflix debut. But I think a lot of people, there's a good percentage of people who they may not like Hulk Ogan. But they wanted to use this as an opportunity to spread love and not hate.

8:46 And they kind of pushed a lot of feelings aside and thought about the guy's family and his friends who do love him and do know him on a personal level. And they've tried to change that that narrative over the last couple days. It was a weird show last Thursday, Dr. Dre. There was a lot of emotions and it was hard to be like completely truthful and honest about Hulk Ogan because of some of the stuff that he did. But I felt like there's been a lot of people who are trying to remember the good times of Hulk Ogan rather than the bad. Yeah, and it's it's it's weird because a lot of the hate I've seen come out are from people who never worked with the man. And so they're just in a lot of ways they're kind of basing their sublimations off of what they've heard.

9:31 But you know, I saw Devon Dudley come out. And Devon said that like Hogan came up and like just straight out flat out apologize to him for stuff. And you know, Booker T says some nice things and Mark Henry says some really nice things. There hasn't been a lot of now granted a lot of the people he worked with. In the 80s and 90s are no longer here. So it's hard to kind of get their opinion on the man. But like I just saw the episode or I saw the video clip even from the WWE Treasures show when Mick Foley went down to Tampa to try and get something from Hulk Ogan and Hulk Ogan apologizing to Mick Foley.

10:15 I do think he tried to make amends before he passed for the most part with the people he could. I think there is a lot of bad blood that unfortunately he could never fix because the people passed on before he did and a lot of folks hang on to that stuff as well. So, but it is kind of like trying to think like there really is I mean Steinberg is probably the best compares I think of because in a lot of ways Yankee fans like that stadium that you have seasoned tickets to is built in large parts because of the success that Yankee's had that George Steinbreder had a large hand in producing. So it is like it's like it's so like I understand like the weird feelings of seeing the plaque in center field knowing what the man was for the majority of his life.

11:04 But that stadium wouldn't be there if it was not for him. And I feel like that's a lot of ways where wrestling is right now where like you're looking going wrestling would not be where it is today if not for Hulk Ogan. But Terry Bollet may not have been the best human being of all time. So I think there is like this weird you know you're torn in a lot of ways where it's like I appreciate him for everything he contributed to the business. And those family and friends who knew him and you know in a lot of ways I I wreck I understand this were like people that are in my circle know how I am as a loyal friend.

11:44 But people who just kind of meet me that I don't really I'm not the nicest person in the world all the time. So I understand that dichotomy that contrast between who the man was as a person and then who he portrayed. And that's what makes this emotionally charged because you're celebrating the contributions to the business. But you also don't want to feel like it's a personal acceptance of everything that's you know he did during his life as a human. I do want to point out like Steinbrenner was never known to do anything racist any comments like hoping was. Reggie now Reggie said back in the there was Reggie Jackson did say back in the day that he was like there was whispers in the 70s and 80s.

12:29 So I remember that that's interesting because I know that he's kind of always been portrayed as like the anti racist and wanted to give. Well it's kind of like in an opportunity. You brought the Trump comparison like Trump is viewed as a racist but yet he's got no words from the NAACP for how much good he's done in the African American community like. That's one of those things were like sometimes when a businessman does something against you and you take it personally you kind of lean on. Personal attributes and not just. The actual merit side of it so like I remember like it might have been Billy Martin during one of his one of his firings with him like I had heard him back when I was a kid. Because I was like that's ridiculous because as a kid you don't really understand racism.

13:13 You know you don't understand like people just dislike you because of the color your skin that makes no sense but. But yeah I guess it is these people like that where they're so polarizing personally but they're accomplished in their business is so great. It's hard to balance that at times. Yeah it certainly is and I think probably the closest comparison that we will see is is of when Vince passes away especially right now I mean he is not looked at in a good light. Kind of could consider it like an evil businessman and I think he's the one of the most influential people in professional wrestling history of not the number one person.

13:56 You know it was him and Hogan that really changed the game so it was definitely an odd couple of days and weeks or a week listening to the stories about Hulk Hogan and I and I it's funny that you had said like two people passed away because. I heard Sam Roberts say that that same comparison where he didn't know who Terry Belay was but he knew who Hulk Hogan was and Hulk Hogan was a hero and it's like. It's kind of like a soft way of looking at the entire thing and being it's being okay to be sad about it because of how important Hulk Hogan was. I mean I watched that I watched that thing that they aired on Monday with the music playing the song ordinary to the history of Hulk Hogan and professional wrestling and it just like flooded with nostalgia.

14:47 I mean I think it was a childhood memories and moments that it's like these I this is what brought me to professional wrestling my dad who passed away earlier this year. You know one of the reasons why he would sit down and watch wrestling and put it on the television was because of Hulk Hogan and you know a household name and it's like you think about those things and how special it was and how important was and how it gave you that love of professional wrestling that it basically started with Hulk Hogan. And here we are now and he should be celebrated for his accomplishments because it's true where would professional wrestling be today that wasn't for Hulk Hogan. I mean that is factual so it's been interesting to see how WWE's kind of control the narrative a little bit and how the wrestling world is kind of quasi rallied around this entire situation and being like yes we acknowledge that there were some bad things that he did and said some bad things.

15:43 But for the sake of his legacy his family his friends we got to talk about the good and they're usually in a world where there's so much trolling and hate nowadays you're seeing a good percentage of people trying to fight back with love. Which I want to bring up like the last point here and I don't know how there's any easier way of saying this Dr. Trey but I got to be honest I was pretty disappointed that AW did not really do anything outside of the comments from Tony Shivani on collision they never did a graphic never posted anything online and Tony Khan has been vehemently vocal about his disdain and dislike for Terry Hulk Hogan Balea.

16:28 But I think for the good of the industry and good of professional wrestling it's like acknowledge it especially when there are people who are believed to be from the outside very close with Hulk Hogan one being Paul White who cried during Hulk Hogan's Hall of Fame speech in 2005 I remember that watching that when it was when it was taking place live Adam Copeland Edge was a Hulk maniac had a great relationship with Hulk Hogan. I thought that was bad you could throw up a graphic whether you buying the scenes like or dislike the guy. CM Punk still stood out on the stage on Monday night next next Bruce Pritchard Nick Hogan and gave his respects to Hulk Hogan and there's been a lot of comments made by CM Punk over the years even very recently about Hulk Hogan.

17:13 I just felt that that was the respectful thing to do and I was disappointed that AW did not really do anything outside of Tony Shivani's comments on collision. Yeah, and that kind of leads into why said initially like a lot of the blowback in you know animosity towards Terry Balea slash Hulk Hogan were from people that never work with them and we're just going off what they had heard or you know just whatever it is or just trying to be against him to get into. I think a lot of Tony, I don't know any personal interactions Tony Khan actually had with Hulk Hogan. I know he's had a feud with Eric Bishoff over the last years and maybe in some ways Hogan's you know guilty by association with Eric Bishoff and that animosity that those two have had that you know kind of Bishoff have had but yeah to not even like mention it outside of a.

18:06 The lib I don't know if I'm saying the lib it just lack a daisicle response and really even then I think they felt like they were pressured into saying something about it because they were getting blowback from not acknowledging it like how do you as a wrestling like rock a city like we are so far down the food chain in. The latter professional wrestling our owner put something out i've seen other smaller independent companies medium sized independent companies put stuff out basically just acknowledging the contribution that he had and for them to ignore it and then when they do something i mean it's a 15 second sound bite like that's it like that was kind of once again i understand if you're personally against Terry Balea but it's hard to ignore it.

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21:01 I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I couldn't agree more, Dr. Trey. I'm Tuesday. It was just like getting hit all or actually that's Monday. Getting hit all week long, but yeah, like I'm trying. I'm trying. I don't know if there has been a more polarizing celebrity in really recent memory of anybody like Hulk Hogan, where he met so much to his industry, but the personal side, you know, like ever since he left the protection of WWE in WCW.

21:49 Anytime he was outside of their umbrellas, his PR stuff was just not great. And it does make you wonder like how much was protected by WFW, WCW, TNA over those years, because health, for all we know, it may have been worse, but when you look at like where wrestling was before 1984, like, and then wear it in it up, you know, 40 years later, a large part of that is on the back of Hulk Hogan, and then later on Stone Cold Steve Austin, later on John Cena. Feel free to chime in at SRTU podcast on X. Feel free to share your thoughts here on the passing of Hulk Hogan, or you could help us out.

22:33 Join in the conversation over at facebook.com/serialthoshell. Switching gears here, Dr. Trey. Obviously spending a lot of time on the Hogan story again this week. But today, or excuse me, yesterday at the July 30th, it was announced or put out there that it had been officially three years, since Triple H was running WWE Creative. Look back at these last three years, Dr. Trey. What's changed? What hasn't? Do you think WWE is in a better spot now than it was three years ago when it was under Vince McMahon's reign? Thoughts as we look at three years now of Triple H running WWE Creative, which is an absolutely insane thing, though.

23:14 I would say as a wrestling product, it's in better shape now that it was three years ago. Now, I don't know the inner workings of now being a corporation or a business owned by another corporation. I'm seeing people complaining about vacation days and PTOs and cup bags here and there and so that. That's outside of my window. But from you and I have been doing this show for a very, very, very long time. And there were such dramatic dips in WWE under Vince McMahon that you and I questioned our fandom and whether or not we could keep watching.

23:54 The last three years, I don't think you and I have really said like there's been times where it was maybe mediocre. But it hasn't been bad the last three years and you look at the cycle of, hey guys are getting more time off. They're kind of cycling guys in and out like they may have a huge storyline that runs for a few months and then they're off TV for months. So they can kind of rest up and recuperate. We're seeing the doors opening up to all these other promotions that people can work with. I mean, did like they just announced GCW is going to have the war raiders at it. Did you ever think like up until last year a show like GCW could get WWE talent booked on their show.

24:38 We saw an Italian NWA. We've seen them purchasing AAA and now all the cross over the AAA. We're seeing things across the board that would have never been done before. The Netflix deal has been huge like all these things that have kind of come up in the last three years. A lot of this is stuff that we never thought we would see and now it's staring at the face. In a lot of ways, I don't know, I almost feel like at times we take WWE for granted. Like they're always supposed to be good and when they're not we flail and rail against the machine and when they're really good most people is like, yeah, it's pretty good right now. Like I don't get it but like the last three years, arguably been the best three years since the attitude era for WWE as a whole.

25:25 As far as like content, product and just mass appeal. I think this has been the best three years they've had in quite a long time. Yeah, this weekend they're going to be filling up a stadium which hosted a couple of WrestleMania's for two nights for Summer Slam. It's not even WrestleMania, it's Summer Slam and that's been pretty constant. I mean, they're putting elimination chamber in this guy, Donald Toronto. So, business is really good and I think a lot of that is due to triple H's creative. It's the type of wrestling that I want to see on my television. Vitsik Man's creative was very predictable. As a long time fan I kind of figured out how WWE was booking their shows just by, you know, them not changing and me watching for a long time.

26:13 I don't feel that way with triple H. There are certainly things that are predictable and there's a lot of things that are not predictable. There are things that I really like pushing people like Gunther and Neo Sky. And there's things that I'm not the biggest fan of but I understand that that is part of the people that are watching at home as well. And like El Grand Amaricano is one of those instances. It's like, it's not my cup of tea but they're kind of winning me over by the way that they're booking it. We talked about if WWE was going to fend off AEW and the worst thing to happen, AEW was triple H getting the books from Vitsik Man because we enjoyed triple H's NXT so much. That happened and AEW has really struggled since triple H took over the books. That's pretty clear.

26:58 And I think a lot of that is because people are putting their viewership in WWE that's where they're investing their time when it comes to professional wrestling promotion. And that's what they would prefer to watch than AEW on a weekly basis which I think AEW was really pushing WWE to be better and were successful in doing that. Heading into triple H taking over creative. I think if Vince was still there Austin Theory would have been in WWE Champion maybe multiple times by now. Gunther, I think may not even be with the company. Eoski may not be with the company. Remember Eos was off a television. She came back at like that SummerSlam 2022, like was the first one that was kind of the launch point for triple H's creative and she came back into damage control and there was a lot of reports other that she was going to disappear.

27:46 Prior to that Gunther was wearing a red P Coke and was like beating the crap out of Ludwig Kaiser. And they were doing that weird thing where it was like Matt can I have your attention please and Kaiser would do this big intro and Gunther was in our continental champion at the time but I don't think he would have been a focal point as much as he is now. I don't think CM Punk would be in WWE if Vince McMahon was still there even had he left AEW. Yeah there's a lot of things Dr. Trey. I don't think J.U. So would have gotten the opportunity to run as World Champion. And yeah it's just it's for the better. And this is the type of wrestling that I like and a lot's changed. I mean it's better organized. It's well thought out. It doesn't insult my intelligence.

28:36 It is at the same old shit that I've watched for 30 years like they do they have misses under triple H absolutely but they have way more hits than misses which prior to that when Vince was running the books they had way more misses than hits. So yeah it's it's been great and it's amazing that it's only been three years Dr. Trey so it's it's my type of WWE that I'm watching. Of course there's only could be tweaks and stuff like that but I liked the direction of the company now that it was three years ago. I mean not too much to think about this Bronson Reed who's now in the main event picture was released under Vince. LA Knight was going to be made a manager under Vince and these are guys now that are either main events or top merch sellers you know it's like yeah there are people that you know Vince obviously would hit on maybe a little differently than triple H but you know having that background of being a wrestler for so many years.

29:34 We saw with Dusty we see other people like having that ability to be a wrestler but then also be able to step back and go what has made me successful and how can I translate that and find it and other people is one of his strong says and like you know like we're like I was going to be a little bit more like you know the fact that WWE is allowing their talent to go into other places is something Vince would have never signed off on you know like you know we've been like Adam Copeland events was still around you know cope might have stayed but punk wouldn't have come back to the company you know like there are definitely some hits and but for the most part like I can't think of anybody that triple H is really put a rocket ship to like I use it the now you earlier that has misfired like everybody he's kind of put that you know put that kind of attention on has succeeded for the most part so maybe the only miss so far might be the why is six battle I think that's more injury issues that it is anything else but for the most part like anybody he's going to put that little you know might us touch on has has turned the goal. Have you had an opportunity to watch the WWE unreal on Netflix I have not I have not as well but dear God the amount of feedback I have gotten from independent and I think it's been ridiculous yeah I can't wait to watch it I hope to watch it either tonight or tomorrow I did I was I did I did watch a the clip of the Jacob Fattu Braun Strowman

31:09 definitely LaShawn stuff like seeing the interworkings of producing going to the referee and stuff like that mainly because we just had definitely LaShawn came to rocket city to support her husband when he was up here so it's kind of nice to see her in the building hanging out playing on her phone the entire time but then to see her in a real how the interworkings of that go that part was pretty cool which makes me want to see down watch the rest of it so there was a pretty big part of the show where on the background and we've talked about this in the past but it was a little bit more clear so I don't believe this was the card that was originally discussed in a trailer for unreal. This was the original WrestleMania 41 card it was revealed on WWE unreal versus what we actually got and what could have been I'm going to go through this card doctor try and tell me if you prefer the match that is being shown here on real as a potential early match for WrestleMania 41 or if you like the one that we ended up getting the first one is easy because we actually ended up getting it I think it's one of the only matches that we actually got.

32:17 Cody Rhodes versus John Cena for the end of the title that was one that we saw at WrestleMania 41 Roman Reigns versus Seth Rollins. >> And we just got punk added to the mix I like the one we got because we got the Paul Aiman payoff with it. >> Gunther versus CM Punk for the World title which will actually get at Summer slam this weekend. >> Yeah, I prefer punk in the triple threat more than maybe punk and Gunther WrestleMania. >> Rearripely versus Bianca Belair for the women's World title. >> And instead we got what was it we got Bianca. >> Rio Eo. >> Yeah, I still think that one's hard for me because if you remember going back to our WrestleMania season I said the money match was Bianca and Rhea because those are probably the two biggest stars they had.

33:09 I would say now with the ascension of Eo and what she's done since then I prefer what we got. >> That's pretty big because you and I were debating that. I was like I think Eo should be in the match and you didn't feel that way right now. >> Yeah it was a little bit because to me they've been teasing Bianca Rhea WrestleMania for like three years. We just have still yet to really get that one-on-one pay off match and it just reminds me of never getting Becky and Ronda. >> Mm-hm. >> You know until it's too late. >> Bad Bunny versus Dominic Mysterio. >> No I think I'm okay with what we got.

33:49 Like I like bad Bunny but yeah I think I'm okay with what we got instead. Like Dom getting the IC title was a really good pay off. >> I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this one. Why it's six versus judgment day. >> Well we didn't get why it's six at all WrestleMania. >> No. >> Hope because I think Uncle had he was out with injury right? >> Yeah and judgment day, Dom and Finn were in the four-way, JD was out in Carlito was eating apples and staring at Liv. I think I probably would have preferred Y-6 in judgment day because that's where I thought we were going to get to after final testament in Y-6.

34:30 And then Uncle howdy got hurt we didn't get it but if that would have been, if you had done Finn, JD and Carlito against three of the Y-6 that would have been fun. Because I just picture like the judgment days, clubhouse, having glitches and weird things happening and stuff like that. And then Carlito's face getting scared by Nikki Cross would have been great as well. >> This match was probably before the injury but Jade Cardinal versus Nia Jackson for the women's title. >> No I'm fine with what we didn't like no like that, nothing about that appeals to me. >> This one is appealing to me, Becky and Charlotte taking on Oscar and Kyrie for the tag titles.

35:13 >> That would have been great. We got what Becky and Lyra for the tag belts. >> With the living in the middle of the game. >> Yeah, no that would have been really fun. I would have been on board for that one. >> Randy Orn versus Kevin Owens we were supposed to get that arrested maybe 41 so that was on there. >> Interesting one here. >> But we got Joe Hendry because of the injury. >> Randy Orn versus Joe Hendries what we got. Drew McAttire versus Brian Breaker. Stone Cold Steve Austin to be the special guest referee. >> I'm trying to remember so we had who did Brian face the WrestleMania? >> Brian was in the fatal four way for the tag titles and a winner tick on Damien Priest in the Sin City Street fight.

35:58 >> If you gave me that match with Stone Cold as the referee and Drew Bitching and Stone Cold in the stunner on it, that would have been great too. >> I probably leaned that one. >> Yeah, this wouldn't have been great. I'd be interested to know who was supposed to be the baby face then. >> Well, Brian was doing that tweener gimmick one week. >> That's true. >> Yeah, so it would have been like, that would have been one of those ones with the fans were just cheering the hard hits and then cheer the stunner post match. >> That would have been a fun match man, McAttire and Breaker. That sucks that we didn't get it. We were supposed to get this in a way. Ray Mysterio with Travis Scott versus Chad Gable at WrestleMania 41.

36:41 It was booked as Ray Mysterio versus Elgaron de Americano who looks exactly like Chad Gable back then. Instead Ray got hurt the night before the Friday's SmackDown and he was replaced by Ray Phoenix. Thoughts though, Mysterio and with Travis Scott versus Chad Gable. >> That would have been cool if they had put like Kid Rock with Chad Gable? Kid Rock, okay. >> I'm just saying, you got to counter the rap artist with-- >> Right, right. >> I'm trying to think of somebody who's kind of like very, very conservative musician. >> Jellyable. >> Like, I was like, my first two was Toby Keith and I'm like, okay, well, no, he passed away. >> Right, Pete.

37:25 >> Ted Nugent, I don't know if he passed away or not, I can't remember. >> I was going to need someone. >> But you would need somebody to kind of be on that line of, you know, red versus blue because obviously Travis Scott, you know, probably a little more on the blue side. But just something, kind of, if you had done Chad Gable with Jelly Roll and Ray Mysterio, but I don't think Jelly Roll, Jelly Roll is so beloved, I don't think he could be the bad guy. >> No. >> You just need somebody, you would need a musician to kind of lead into the, the heel persona a little bit with Chad Gable. >> But they were really trying to push Travis Scott, man. I don't-- >> Oh, man. >> This is the part where I'm old. Like I've listened to some of his songs, I like some of his songs, but I'm like, I don't get it.

38:08 It does not translate with me and I'm officially old at 39 years old. >> Did we get the 24th? Did we get the hardcore title back from Travis Scott? >> I hope so, because I hear there's a fallen out there. >> These two got caught-- we got called the repo man in to go get it. >> Yeah, you got to get Barry Darso to help you out. >> This is an interesting one, J. U. So, versus Damien Priest, versus Sammy, versus Shemus, versus Bronson, Reed, versus Ludwig, I see title ladder match. This would have been pretty bad ass, Dr. Trey. >> I mean, you throw J, Ludwig, Sammy in there, you get a tsunami off the ladder, through a ladder, like, but Bronson obviously was out with the leg injury at the time, so that kind of curtailed that, but yeah, like those six guys.

38:55 And that's one of those matches, we always talk about, they usually have one super big ladder match at either WrestleMania, and we're getting one in SummerSlam, but they typically have that one really, really big ladder match is just crazy over the top. I would have been cool if that one of Shemus came out on top. >> Well, remember we were kind of pushing that, like December January time, because it was the one title that he was missing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I would have liked to see Shemus got that moment. Which now is interesting, because you're looking at this icy title ladder match, so Brons-Breakter wasn't Intercontinental Champion going into this. >> So who were they projecting to be the icy Champion at the time?

39:35 >> I think it was going to be Jey Uso. >> Yeah, because you guys remember, like, at this point, when they're projecting this card, there's no Penta. And I think Penta may have changed some of some of the equations in this as well, because he got super over so fast that they kind of had to adjust the show to kind of spin it out a little bit. So, yeah, that would have been really fun match. And also then Jey would have had a longer run with the icy title than what he got, which then wouldn't have made people so crazy about him getting the multiple world title shots. >> So you would have preferred him going into Mania as the icy Champion rather than coming out of Mania as the world Champion? >> Yeah, probably, because I still, as much as I love Jey Uso, I don't know how sold I am on that world title run.

40:22 >> Yeah, no, it was odd, right? I mean, maybe we'll learn a little bit more about it during the Unreal series that we haven't watched yet, because I heard that was something that they cover. It was odd because the planning entire time was for Gunther to still get the title back to take on Goldberg in July. So we could break that down another day. The last match here, US title ladder match, Dr. Trey. LA Knight, I assume, is the US Champion defending its Jimmy Uso on Draughtey, Solusikoa, Santos Escobar, Carmelo Hayes, and Shinsuke Nakamura. >> Once again, Jacob Fattu, gets thrown into the mix because of how hot he got. I think we have discussed that one as well. Like on our predictions card, like, you know, early in, like, it felt like the mid card tiles were wide open, and you could go multitude of different directions.

41:08 I think I'm better off with what we got because we got the rise of Jacob Fattu out of it. I mean, we haven't seen Shinsuke really since he lost the US title. >> I know, and I hate it, man. >> I hate to start stop for Shinsuke. He's so stil- >> Yeah. >> And I love the samurai gimmick. >> I have actually really enjoyed it. >> So it is weird to see the changes in that, but like, I was fine with LA Knight and Jacob Fattu, because I thought they had a really damn good match, and it got Jacob Fattu even more over. >> So a couple of people that were missing, you mentioned Jacob Fattu. Live Morgan, is it on this list? >> Who do they say Becky and- >> Eosky? >> Yeah, Eosky. They were doing Oscar and Kyrie, so yeah, that's right. >> Eosky, Liv, Bailey, who ended up missing the show anyway. Tiffany Stratton, isn't on this card?

41:55 >> Which means they had no intention of her winning money in the bank when she actually won money in the bank when they're pre-planning this out. >> It's odd, right. The thing that goes into it where it's just like very fluid at all times. >> Damien, you know- >> And he's on here. >> But no, AJ Styles? >> No, AJ, did I- I don't see Logan Paul? >> Yeah. >> Maybe Logan wasn't confirmed for Mania, that's odd. >> Yeah, I mean, some of those guys that are- it's weird because like, you know, a couple of guys that got injured, like, I don't know, like, Bronson got injured at Survivor Series, so like, how early were they planning that- they must have been planning this card before Survivor Series? >> This is definitely because Jade's on there, right?

42:36 >> Yeah, so yeah, it's kind of like, okay. I mean, in this- in vent, and I still think Triple H, Bruce Pritchard, those guys, still kind of model it the same way as they did in events. Vents, once WrestleMania ended, the next day or within a week already has next year's WrestleMania card- >> Kind of in place. >> Kind of in place, and you start working towards getting to that. So I still think they do the same principle. They may not do it a year out, they may do it six months out because it's a little easier to kind of develop two storylines, maybe three to get to Mania as opposed to trying to plan out a whole year to get to Mania because injuries, new hires, some guy gets hot, some guy cools off, it's really hard to kind of keep that going for an entire year.

43:21 But yeah, like, seeing certain names on the list kind of tells you like, "Oh yeah, Bronson Reed was higher up on their list, but then he got hurt." Or, you know, Liv may have been hurt when they planned this out, and they didn't know when she was gonna get back. >> I think she was champion at this point in November. >> So then not putting her on the card is kind of weird. >> I think the WrestleMania 41 card we ended up getting. >> Yeah, I would say if you looked up and down what we just talked about, I would say what we got, it'd be better than the one they kind of impenciled, but even some of the stuff in pencil, we still had variants of it. So it wasn't like dramatic shifts. It was, okay, J.U. So super hot right now.

44:05 If we haven't went in Mania, that's the feel-good moment that we all love, especially if we're going John as a heel, you know, then J.U. So winning here is really good. And then we can slide punk into the stuff with Roman and Seth because they all have history together. Like, I like what we got, but there's still, you can still see the variants there. Like, it still worked out in a lot of ways similar with that plan, but maybe not exact. >> I would have liked to see Gunther and CM Punk at Mania, but that punk reigns Rollins matches is one of the best matches of the year. Rea versus Bianca would like to see that. But again, Rea Bianca and EO from Mania, especially, was one of the best matches of the year.

44:45 Y-6 versus Judgment Day would have been cool. And Becky and Charlotte versus Oscar and Kai. Rea would have been cool. And Drew McAterver, Braun Breaker would have been cool from the rumored matches that was showcased during the show Unreal that is now up on Netflix. So hopefully by next week, Dr. Trey, when I'll be able to watch all a couple of the episodes, I know all five are up on Netflix right now. So feel free to chime in with any of your thoughts on XAT, SRTU podcasts. And with that being said, Dr. Trey, let's get into WWE Summer's Land preview predictions. It comes to us live this Saturday and Sunday for MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, home of WrestleMania 29 and WrestleMania 35, which WrestleMania 35 went on and on and on and on until all in. Texas took place earlier this month.

45:31 Let's look at night one, Saturday, Dr. Trey. You've got Sami Zayn taking on carrying Cross. I'm going to go with carrying Cross in this one because Sami has been getting the better of carrying Cross thus far. Yeah, I mean, Sami got, or do I know what, carrying got the win? No, Sami got the win at the paper view, the last one. So I'm going to take carry in in this one as well. I just think I feel like they have something brewing with him. Like the fans are really into him, everything else. You've got to kind of see where this can go. So I'm going to take carrying Cross as well. So there you go, both of us taking carrying Cross in this one. Next match is the Judgment Day, Roxanne Perez and Raquel Rodriguez, defending the Women's Tag Team Championship, again, Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss. This is a tough one to call Dr. Trey. Your thoughts on this one.

46:20 Yeah, I think I'm going to take Alexa and Charlotte because once again, it kind of feels like there's something there that might lead to something bigger. I just don't know if you pulled the trigger this week because the crazy thing is Jeff. Charlotte's been getting kind of cheered in this whole thing and that was the whole precipice leading in the WrestleMania. So maybe it was trying to get Charlotte over the baby as a baby face. Maybe Alexa helps Charlotte go over the baby face. They win the tag belts. And then one of the two flips and goes psycho on the other one down the line heading into mania season or survivor series season. So I'm going to take Alexa and Charlotte getting the win. Yeah, these are both really good storylines right now, which just makes it very hard to tell where it's going to go because Roxanne has been a wedge in the Judgment Day with Live Out Now trying to integrate herself in there, tagging with Raquel, trying to steal, Dom, and then you've got the very organic, awesome build of Charlotte Flare and Alexa Bliss.

47:14 You know, you point out people are starting to cheer on Charlotte Flare. I think a lot of that has to do with their very open and honest athletic interview. I think it was the athletic or player's tribune she did where she just kind of talked about her real life trials and tribulations. And that's what's relatable. The problem with Charlotte all those the all these years. She wasn't relatable. That article comes out. She's relatable. People like her. They're starting to cheer on and I think this Charlotte and Alexa Bliss storyline has been really good with it said to really good storylines that will continue forward post summer slam, which one makes the most sense to walk out with the titles. Charlotte Flare and Alexa Bliss. You keep this thing going. You had the titles in there. And I liked Dr. Trey. I'm taking the we're not friends tag team of Charlotte Flare and Alexa Bliss.

47:56 Next match here is Randy Orton and Jelly Roll taking on Drew McAter and Logan Paul. Part of me wants to pick Drew McAter and Logan Paul in this one. Dr. Trey, but I think the celebrity gets the victory is Randy Orton and Jelly Roll win. Yeah, I'm looking at like I thought Logan's interview or Logan's promo the last because really good where he was like, you know, me and Drew are two of the best. Randy's on the best and then there's you. I really like that way that played out. So I mean, I really want to pick Drew Logan, but I'm going to take Randy Orton and Jelly Roll just for the celebrity pop for Jelly Roll probably picking up the pit. Do you think Jelly Roll surprises us with his performance that were where it is out there that he's been working pretty hard at the WWE PC trading with Kevin Owens, Jacob Fattu, Undertaker, Michelle McCool.

48:43 And then the stands for Tuesday nights NXT episode does he impress us like a bad bunny and Logan Paul have in their first matches in WWE? Do I think he's on those guys's level? No, because he's a big dude. He's a heavy said dude. And then because of how much his body has changed in the last year, it takes a little while to get used to your new size. I think he will be okay. So if your expectation is he's going to suck, I think he beats that expectation. But if you think he's going to be bad bunny or Logan Paul, I think is below that. So I think he'll be passable, but he's not on the level of bad bunny and Logan Paul.

49:25 I agree with you. I think some of the stuff that we've seen in the ring so far, he is not on the athletic level is the other two guys that we just mentioned. Next up is Tiffany Stratt and defend any WWE Women's Championship against Jade Cardgill, Dr. Trey, who do you like in this one? This one's hard. I'm really torn on this one because with Naomi going to Raw, this kind of threw my expectations and my plans into it, Izzy. I am going to take Jade getting the win though. So I'll take Jade defeating Tiffany for the women's title. Yeah, I think WWE wants to put the championship on. I feel like they think it's time to start building her up as a major player in the company. So I like Dr. Trey. I'm taking Jade Cardgill to win the WWE Women's Championship.

50:10 Next match is Roman Reigns and J.U. So versus Braun Breaker and Bronson Reed. Winter gets Roman Reigns' shoes from Raw. That close up. I'm sorry, what? No, I'm just kidding. Do you not see Bronson Reed take Roman Reigns' shoes at the end of Raw? No, because I missed the very end of Raw because we had air conditioning calamities, so everything got shit to the last 20 minutes of Raw. But I thought that sounds like if Vince came back, that would be a legitimate storyline. For Roman Reigns' sneakers that Bronson Reed had stole, I'm going to take Roman Reigns and J.U. So on this one not to try. Who do you like?

50:50 Yeah, it's hard picking against Roman. I mean the guys really only lost two, like only been on the losing side really twice in the last like four years. So yeah, I'm taking Roman and J also because Bronson's, RBZB Brons trying to assert himself as the leader of this faction. And we still don't know how long Seth is out for. By the way, I know they keep calling him Braun, but why do they just call him the Bronies? We got, we got Bronny James, why don't you just call him the Bronies? Maybe it's copyrighted, who knows? That's true. Who knows? Next match here is Gunther defending the World of the Way Championship against CM Punk, Dr. Trey, who leaves his World Champion. This one's tricky because like, can you have CM Punk lose title matches on back-to-back PLEs?

51:38 Like that's part, I mean at some point he's got to get the win. I'm gonna take Punk just because I think the heel side is coming up stronger than the baby face side as far as challengers. So I think I'm gonna take Punk stealing the, stealing a victory from Gunther in that summer slam. I like you I'm taking CM Punk to defeat Gunther and become the World of the Way Champion. However, I think Seth Rollins comes out and cashes in and walks out of Summer Slam as World Champion. That was my call a few weeks ago and then I was like, so I was crazy for that because I tried it at Summer, or we had Saturday Night's Main event and it didn't come to fruition.

52:18 And I was like, well it makes sense because the whole point is Seth does not want CM Punk being World Champion. So I think he has to cash in on Punk much like Punk cashed in on, or pre-s cashed in on Mac and Trey. So yeah, I'm with you. I think that's how it plays out. I think Seth walks out of Summer Slam as World Champion. Then let's get to Night 2 here. I am stoked for this one. Dr. Trey, 6-Pak TLC, tables, labs and chairs match for the WWE Tag Team Championship, the Y-6 defending against Andrade Phoenix, DIY, Fraxie and Motor City Machine Guns and the Street Profits. Outside of the women's Intercontinental Championship Division between Becky Lyra and Bailey, the SmackDown Tag Team Division has been one of my favorite things to watch on WWE Television over the last year.

53:02 In the last six months, it's been fantastic and they're getting a really good opportunity to showcase. And I think they're going to steal the show. With that said, I'm going to take the Y-6 retaining and walking down as WWE Tag Team Champions. Can you remember a time we had 12 guys in a TLC match? How many? Is it, is there six Tag teams, right? Yes, six. So there's 12 people in a TLC match. Like that's just legit and then you got you got a factor in Eric Rowan's out there Uncle Howdy's out there Nikki Cross is out there Candace Loray will be out there like. That's like 18, it's like 15 people, 18 people involved in this thing. So it is going to be it's going to be the most fun train wreck I have ever seen.

53:45 I fully expect the Y-6 to retain because I think somebody will climb the ladder, they'll cut the lights out and then you'll see either Joe Gase your Dex or Louis the top of ladder taking the belts down. It's going to be weird if they cut the lights out in a stadium with their sunlight though, Dr. Try. But maybe by the time that match comes on, it's dark outside Jeff. Well, I guess anything could happen though, Dr. Try, right? It is the Y-6. It is a daylight stadium for the most part, probably like the first two and a half hours of the show. But maybe they have the power to turn off the lights in New Jersey, Dr. Try. I mean, it's New Jersey, Jeff. I mean, anything, I mean, we still we still have Jimmy Hoffa. True. So anything that happened.

54:25 Next match here is Becky Lynch defending the women's Intercontinental Championship against the Lyre Valcuri in a no disqualification, no count out last chance match for the Intercontinental Championship. If Becky wins, Valcuri can no longer challenge for the title as long as Lynch is the champion. Dr. Try, who do you like in this one? I'm going with Lyre. I mean, we just had this, we just had the simulation Becky wants. I'm gonna take Lyre. Maybe with the help of Bailey to get the wind to get the belts off of Becky. It is weird to have Becky Lynch in your mid card division. And maybe this is their way of getting Becky moved up to, you know, get in there with Rhea and Naomi and EO and kind of solidify that main event division with four people up there.

55:09 So I'm gonna take Lyre getting the win and getting the Intercontinental title. I wanted to pick Lyre based on the stipulation as well, but I'm gonna take Becky Lynch. That is all stemming from Bailey's backstage interview where she was like, I miss WrestleMania, I miss Summer Slam. I think Bailey cost Lyre the match, helps Becky retain and then Lyre cannot challenge Becky for a while while she holds onto the championship. It's like Rhea, we ever see that stipulation take place. So I think there's a little bit more storyline involved here. So I'm going to take Becky Lynch to retain. Next match here is Solisikoa defending the WWE United States championship in a steel cage match versus Jacob Fattu.

55:49 First off, I love that a steel cage match is taking place at Summer Slam because it reminds me of a Triple H and mankind. I think Summer Slam 96, Brett and Owen Summer Slam 1994. Give me the blue bar steel cage, Dr. Trey. Please, I am begging you, not the chain link one. With that said, I'm gonna take Jacob Fattu to win the United States Championship on Sunday. Yeah, this one, I want to say it's tricky because Solo just got the belt like a month ago. And you're trying to build up the MFTs and maybe you want to spin Jacob off into something bigger. I think I'm gonna take Solo to retain because I feel like he's just a good solid mid-card heel champion where Jacob I feel like has much more potential in the short term, maybe not long term.

56:39 I think both these guys can be main eventers down the line. I just think Solo just because I think you got the whole MFTs that could prevent Jacob from winning because they could get involved because there's no DQ in this match. So I'm taking Jacob, you're taking Solo on this one. Next match here is Dominic Mysterio, Defender of the Intercontinental Championship against AJ Styles. Dr. Trey, who do you like in this one? So it feels like AJ's had the upper hand the entire time in this rivalry, so I'm gonna take Dominic getting the win. I went back and forth on this one. I really thought Dominic would win and it would make sense for his character. I want to see AJ Styles as Intercontinental Champion, so I'm gonna take AJ, Dr. Trey.

57:19 No, I feel that. I would love to see AJ win. Whoever wins this match, I'm good with because I can see direction for both. But you have Dom doing so much of a AAA, having that belt gives him a little bit of gravitas when he goes down there. So I'm leaning Dom on that. Could you make a theory that maybe they take the title off of him in case he becomes the AAA MAKA champion? I don't think he's gonna be AAA MAKA champion until they have something to where they can stream it or put it out on US television. Well, it's supposed to be on YouTube, I guess, for Romania. That's not, yeah, that to me is not streaming. That's... YouTube is streaming?

57:59 It is, but I still don't think of YouTube as a big platform to watch online. Oh, right now. You sound like, get off my porch guy now. Wait, aren't you the guy who just said you're old because you didn't like Travis Scott? Well, could you tell me Travis Scott's free Travis Scott's songs? No, I thought Travis Scott was like a positional baseball player for the Phillies Minor League Triple H. Exactly, exactly. I mean, if he was a wide receiver for the Eagles, I'd be like, oh, yeah, I know Travis Scott. Yeah, like, to me, it is, but I just want to see them either on whatever PCOT platform before they bring in to be the Triple H. Dr. Trey wants to see them on Telemundo. That's what he's trying to get at. So, all right, there we go. I mean, you put some telenovelas leading into a Dominic Mysterio AAA match, I'm there.

58:43 All right, right on. Stay tuned folks. So I'm taking AJ Styles. Dr. Trey is taking Dominic Mysterio. Naomi defends against Rhea Ripley and EO Sky in a Triple Threat match for the Women's World Championship. Tough one to call. I'm going to go with Naomi. I don't think they take the title off of her right away, Dr. Trey. No, I think depending on, I'd not depend. I think Roxanne or Rock Hell get involved to kind of help Naomi retain. I mean, maybe one of these were like, you know, Rhea Histor, Rip, Tudda, and Naomi are on EO and Naomi throws around against the pin. I just, you don't make that dramatic of a switch for the cash in for it's only last a month. I think there is a level of continuity if you have Jade win on Smackdown and Naomi on Raw because that can kind of feed into whatever they do at Bianca at Royal Rumble if Bianca wins the Rumble.

59:34 All right, so they got both of us taking Naomi in this one to retain. And now this is a tough one that Trey John Cena defends. The Undisputed WWE Championship against Cody Rhodes in a Street Fight. Who walks out of Summerslam as the Undisputed WWE Champion? This one, this is hard for me to pick because the fantasy booker of me wants the double turn. And I don't know if they're going to pull the trigger on it. And that's where I'm at now. I mean, piecemaker comes out this next week also. So there is, you know, hey, do you want John Cena as a baby face out there promoting the DCU or do you want him as a heal promoting the DCU?

1:00:15 Like where do you want to go this? I'm taking Cody regardless. I just for me, I want the double turn and I don't know if we're going to get it. So I'm going to take Cody get in the title back from Cena so that eventually we can see the baby face run to close out his career. I like you and taking Cody Rhodes to in this one. And I think Cody does lean to the dark side a little bit and I'm tempted to say we get a turn. But I think he, it's like a slow build to the turn. I think he does something that I think he's going to get boot out of the building no matter what. I think this is going to be a pro scene of crowd. He's going to do something that causes more booze and you know, kicks in between the legs, one, two, three.

1:01:01 And that kind of starts the build and John Cena starts to do the baby face run towards the end of his time in WWE. But I don't think we get like a WrestleMania 13 double turn in this match. I mean, you don't think we get elimination chamber type double turn. Well, that wasn't really a double turn. Yeah, we don't get the sword where rock costs Cena the match. I think it's like a slower build. I think it's like why Cody why this type stuff like. I mean, I'd love to see it and you see all the Easter eggs out there on the internet with Cody wearing the watch that looks like the one that rock gave him and the sunglasses and you see it and you see a little bit of that.

1:01:46 Heal persona seeping through a times like, yeah, I kind of want to see rock come out and cost you the match only because that might mean we get rock seen a three. So if you loved Travis Scott taking six minutes to get down on the ring and WrestleMania 41. If rock comes out and sides with Cody after not explaining why Cena sided with rock. Yeah, holy shit is next week. So I'm just filled with confusion. By the way, if you think Travis Scott taking six minutes to get the ring, just wait to see how long it takes jelly roll to get to the ring. You don't think they'll bring back the card? You don't think they'll do the WrestleMania card for this one? Oh my gosh, because how long is that ramp in New York New Jersey? I mean, that's a long, that's a long way to get there.

1:02:34 I mean, jelly roll might be blown up before the match starts. Do it under 300 pounds right now. I'm under 300 pounds and it takes me a long time to get down there because my cardio is still in great. So no, I just, I mean, there's part of it. I just kind of want to see home lander version of Cody Rhodes, but the only problem with that is like you've got all these heel stables and if Cody goes heel now, it's kind of hard to have another group around Cody. So I think Cody wins in like you said, we get the slow build to the eventual heel turn, you know, post-Royal Rumble heading into mania season. So there you go. There is our Summer Slam preview predictions. We will recap and review it all for you on next week's edition of SRTU.

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1:04:44 Eight men enter the field. The winner will get a shot at the Rocketsy World Championship. So that's one of our favorite shows of the year. But most importantly, gather and check out your local independent wrestling shows so you two can find your next major breakout star while they're still floundering on the Indies making five bucks and getting hot dogs and handshakes as their payoffs. But that's where wrestling grows from and that's where you need to be. The grassroots or professional wrestling right there. Your local independent wrestling scene. So there you go. Support all the great things that support SRTU. And once again, spread love, show love to the show and be there and support us along the way. Patreon.com/SRTU podcast. Looking forward to this weekend watching SummerSlam. Looking forward to recapping it all and reviewing it for all of you on next week's edition of the pod.

1:05:31 So enjoy the week rest of your week. Enjoy your weekend. Thank you for supporting the podcast and until next week for Dr. Strayf Franklin. I am Jeff Pack. This has been Mr. Relish.