May 30, 2024

WWE King & Queen of The Ring and AEW Double or Nothing Recaps | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #746 – 5/30/24

WWE King & Queen of The Ring and AEW Double or Nothing Recaps | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #746 – 5/30/24
WWE King & Queen of The Ring and AEW Double or Nothing Recaps | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #746 – 5/30/24
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WWE King & Queen of The Ring and AEW Double or Nothing Recaps | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #746 – 5/30/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We recap & review "WWE King & Queen of the Ring!"
- -- We recap & review "AEW Double or Nothing!"
- -- How AEW is feeling like 2019 WWE when they initially launched 5 years ago!
- -- WWE...

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We recap & review "WWE King & Queen of the Ring!"
  • -- We recap & review "AEW Double or Nothing!"
  • -- How AEW is feeling like 2019 WWE when they initially launched 5 years ago!
  • -- WWE is letting some huge names' contracts run out and we are trying to find out why!
  • -- And why WWE NXT went "old school" recently!

0:00 It's welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition. This's to ARIALDA Show, Episode number seven and forty six for May thirtieth, twenty twenty four. This year, Willie King and Queen of the Ring in aw Double or Nothing Recap and review edition of as R T You. I am one half of the show. I am Jeff Peck joined every single week of my co host normally Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. It was a wrestling Phill Memorial Day weekend.

0:46 Again, my friend, you would think it was like WrestleMania weekend with the amount of wrestling we have, but not quite even though that wasn't that long ago. But two big pay per views, RAS, Dynamite Collisions, Smackdowns, it kind of felt like a wrestle media weekend with the sheer volume of wrestling we had over the past few days. A lot of wrestling to be had, and there was one show this week that surprised the crap out of me and dare I say may have been the most underrated, entertaining wrestling program of the entire week, And we'll get to that later on the show. Let's get into immediate recap interview here. W King of the ring.

1:30 It came to us this past Saturday from the Jedi Superdome in Jededi, Saudi Arabia. The first match here was the pre show match. He had Biancle bell Air and Jade Cargill defeating Indy Hartwell and Knis the Rate to retain the w Women's Tag Team Championship. We're kind of going old school here. Fans were like, Hey, go back to your match by match recaps. We're gonna do it again, folks, and go back to those days. So some notes from this one. Jade Cargill has looked really good so far in and this slow burn of the partnership has a lot of great potent for an eventual split between Cargill and Bianca Bellaire. I am really liking what I'm seeing right now, Doctor Trey. Yeah, yeah, Jade looks better than expected. I guess is that I guess when you have low expectations, like anything that doesn't suck, you're like, huh, she's doing better. But I do like the little like superhero partnership. Is it a little bit megapower ish in a sense. It does kind of feel like they're just gonna dominate this division for a while. By the way, I also loved Indy mocking Bianca's braid throughout the match. I thought that was clever and fun too, so uh yeah, not a bad little opener for the ladies to go after it and for and at least the women's tag titles are on the show and not forgotten about. Next match year was Live Morgan feeding Becky Lynch to retain the WAE excuse me able to win at the WA Women's World Championship. We both had Liv Morgan winning this match. Dom being an idiot and costing Becky the championship is he attempted to prevent Live Morgan from winning Mommy's Championship with some pretty good creative We saw that carry over on Monday night with a rematch stel Cage

3:02 match Becky Lynch, who's in the news for contractual reasons we'll cut, which we will cover here later on the program, and Live Morgan once again, Dom interferes, helps Live Morgan win. He gets a kiss from Live Morgan after Raw goes off the air, so Raw running very tight to their feed That was then picked up on social media which will then fuel the rest of this feud. Thoughts here as Live Morgan wins the w Women's Championship. I thought it was a really good match. I enjoyed the hell out of it. I like the Live Revenge Tour. I like the the potential love triangle of Live Rha and Dom. Becky worked her ass off those those two Knights.

3:47 If if this is her goodbye for a while to WW, she she went out in a blaze of glory. So Helbert job by both ladies. Next match here, Sammy's Aine defeating Chad Gable and and read in a triple threat match. We're retaining w Intercountinental Championship. We both had Sammy's saying winning this one. Fans are organically organically clamoring for ODIs to turn on Chad Gable, and I can't wait for it to be executed. At some point Chad Gables in the news will cover him and his contractual status later on the programming as well. It reminds me of when aw botched fans wanting to see kill Switch turn on Christian Afterworld's End that Awnver followed up with at All. It's really cool seeing things like this organically play out. Yeah, I did see the comparison to what's going on with Alpha Academy and then the Bloodline story when Sammy was in it, where you have a narcissistic leader basically berating somebody else, his friend comes to the rescue, you try to talk him out of being in the group, only to have him still stay on that side for a while and then organically turn And it's kind of is like I saw the good comparison. I'm like, yeah, but if something's not broke, don't fix it. It's like it worked for that storyline, it kind of works for this one too. At some point, we're probably gonna see the Cree brothers side with Gable and Otis be against them. It'll happen at some point, but for now, like it's just good, compelling slowburn television waiting for this angle to explode, just like we saw, you know, a couple of years ago with Sammy and the Bloodline. Next match year is Nia Jackson

5:20 feeding Lyra Valkyrie to win the Queen of the Ring tournament. We both had Nia Jack's getting the victory. Lyra looked really good in the losses. She took it to Nia Jackson the Queen of the Ring Finals. Nia's recent recent push has been really good heading into a title match now at SummerSlam. That will be we talked about the last week show. It broke during the podcast, actually Triple H making announcement the winner of both the Queen and King of the Ring will be facing the respective brands champion, so Nia will be going against as it stands right now, Bailey at SummerSlam. That finisher though on Lyra, holy crap, my my inside shirt after that one. But she looked great in a loss, Lyra Valkira. It's one of my favorite things wrestling does when someone takes an l But they looked really good in it, and Lyra did. Nia Jackson's are queening the ring. Yeah, I thought both ladies looked really well. This was one of those matches where Lyra comes out looking pretty strong because she held her own with Nya. But did you openly gasp and say, oh my god when Nya hit that annihilator on uh on Liah Alyra, I legitimately did. I was like, holy crap.

6:27 I watched it live and those words were completely uttered out of my mouth. Yeah, the wife and I both went, oh my god, Okay, I think she's dead. I think she killed her like that. That was one of Thost like just brutal looking nihilators I've seen, and she's she came out of that match. I mean, Nya came out strong Lyra came out looking strong. And then the funny part to me was Nya almost crying while Triple Ah is giving her the crown and hugging her and everything else, and then immediately turning back into her character, like she broke gimmick for a little bit, and then I went back into the gimmick when she saw the cameras focused on her. If I'm if I know Triple h well, I'm guessing he said something very sweet to Nia Jacks that cost her to break down a little bit. She is a great talent. I mean since returning, I mean, she has been a very captivating heel. I've really enjoyed her work, and this was the right call putting the Queen of the Ring crown on her head. Gun through defeats Randy Orton and whin the King of the Ring tournament. We both had gone through and getting victory. Randy's shoulder not being down for the pin definitely took away from the finish for a really good methodical match. Good on Corey Grace for acknowledging the pin during the replay. They further acknowledged that post show with Triple H talking about it. They acknowledged it on Raw as well, so they kind of acknowledged the blunder there. I don't think that was storyline wise because we haven't seen it followed up this week so far. But I mean the ref has to be a little bit better there. I mean, like stop the pin and let them, you know,

7:59 get back to the finish. We don't need to plow through this unless it was meant to happen. So it was a really good match, but the finish was like, ah man, really they could have done a lot better with it. Nonetheless, gun through is the king of the ring. Yeah, I mean it was a fantastic, hard hitting match, and you're right, like the finish took away from the quality of I mean, outside that finish, it's probably a match of the night. Like it was just good old school physical wrestling. And you know, I give them credit for, like you said, acknowledging it multiple times throughout the weekend, but to me, it just looked like they were just a little bit out of position and the referee was right where he needed to be to make that adjustment, and he didn't do it. And most referees know, hey, if you're counting the pen, you have to make sure that shoulder's down because it does ruin the credibility of the match if especially if it's in plain sight. If he'd been on the opposite shoulder of Randy and it happened, it would have made sense that he missed it. But he was right there. Well, I waited with the falls. But by the way, like even the Friday Night show, the match be thing Randy and Tama leading into King of the Ring was really well done and it got Kevin Owens to Saudi Arabia, So there you go. That's fun as well. Kevin has been making the run over to Saudi Arabia since Sammy started making it as well, so I know that was a thing a couple of years ago, but nice to see Kevin Owens there. He also did a great job on the pre show. And then finally the main event here, Cody Rhades defeats Logan Paul to retain the WE Undisputed Championship. We both had Cody getting a victory the Logan Poul Michael

9:33 Cole storyline heading into This one was interesting because I wonder if it actually leads to something with them or even Corey Graves down the road, as there was back and forth with Logan Paul and Michael Cole at the announced table and then Corey Graves is getting involved. The seamless transition Logan Paul has had into wrestling surprises me every single time. He held his own with one of the best in the business day Cody Rhodes, and I mean, it's I'm a broke record here to be like, I can't believe how good this guy has been in professional wrestling with what less than ten matches under his belt. But that's like legitimately it. It does not look like a celebrity or a YouTuber or quasi part time wrestler. I mean, this is someone that looks, like he said, ten years under his belt. I mean he has really picked it up. Good match, as Cody Rose retains. Yeah, I always give Logan Paul the credit that he has erves for being so good, for being so new to pro wrestling, Like you said, like maybe ten twelve matches under his belt. But then again, if you look at everybody he's worked with, like he's everybody he's worked with are good solid workers as well.

10:39 Like if you look at Cody Seth Robin Ko or like Ray Mysterio Miss like he's not really had a wrestler he's had to carry in a match yet, so he looks great. But I gotta give the other guys their credit as well for you know, working Logan through a good match. Cody's no exception. That match was really well, really well laid out, great storytelling, and between the Logan Paul stuff at King of the Ring and then the Dominic stuff post show Monday Night, Michael Cole might be the new dad of WW just scolding the young boys for doing the wrong thing, like you're cheating, you lied, and then scolding Dominic for costing you know, Becky two matches. So kudos to Michael Cole for just standing up and being like the ultra dad of WWE as well. Yeah, people may like ear Mark being that Vince has gone not in this ear anymore, that he's kind of showcased his personality. I would say, really, ever since McAfee came aboard WI, he has been very Jr. Esque in that sense, Like I love that Jim Ross was kind of doing commentary without a Governor on and just was commenting how he felt. And that's what you're seeing play out with Michael Cole.

11:52 Maybe he has a little bit of lines or a direction that he has given, but he is He's really done an amazing job, and it kind of gets glossed over all the time. How well and emotionally he's been as a commentator as of late, I think he is the best in the business today, With all due respect to other people like Excalibur, I really enjoy Michael Cole's work lately. Pay perview prediction record from King and Queen the Ring, we both went five and oh coming out of this one. I met fifty five and eight Doctor Trey's at fifty and thirteen Match of the Night and event rating. I gave Match of the Night still to Gun through Randy Weren't, which maybe is a surprise, and I gave King and Queen of the Ring a three point eight out of five Doctor Trey what say you Yeah?

12:35 I actually went Cody and Logan just and mainly it's just because of the messed up pinfall at the end of Randy and Gunther So I went Cody and Logan and I was at three point nine there, he goes, They're probably been around one another there, which has been a while for some of the shows Doctor Trey and I have been doing, which is nice to see, nice to say we're back on the same page, Doctor Trey. Any other matches in moments, she want to discuss all I had down for me just overall from the show. I thought, again, we talked about it, you talked about Doctor Trey. Slow burning. Creative is becoming more common in WA with Jade and Bianca Live in Rhea slash Judgment Day Chad Gable Otis and I am completely here for it. I love that they're doing this. Yeah, the stuff with dom and Rhea and Live makes me wonder and you can see it also with the with the reaction that Damian Prescott on money, and it makes me think that part of Judgment Day might go babyface, like they might split it because you see the stuff with Carlito and dom and then you know Carlito can't be in the room, but you know, like there's these weird affiliations with Judgment Day. So to me, I think at some point you're gonna see Judgment Day split and Dominic get his own heel faction because you can't make Dominic a baby face because the crowd loves the boom. But you might see Judgment Day split, which makes sense to hey, Gunther wins King of the Ring Dunth and Damian Priest the Summer Slam. If Damien's a babyface makes a ton of sense as well. So I think that where it might be

14:07 trending for all that. Plus I think this stuff did. By the way, this with Logan Paul, it might lead to Logan Paul and Paul McAfee or Pat McAfee, Sorry, Logan Paul, Pat McAfee had a SummerSlam with Pats taking up for Michael Cole in that role. That would be interesting. I would love to see Corey Graves back in there. People tend to forget how good he was ten plus years ago on the NXT brand, actually a former champion with current AW star Pac Pac then known as Neville Adrian Neville on NXT caaring over to Oly Wrestling Double or Nothing Reekaprivia this past Sunday from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas slash Paradise, Nevada, the five year celebration of AW back to where it all started. Some of the buy in matches, Doctor Treyo Diana Prazzo defeating thunder Rosa. We did not predict this match. I thought it was a good start to the show. That felt like these two great women wrestlers wanted to send a message for being on the buy in and not being on the main show. Yeah, solid match.

15:03 Plus you had the heel getting to win by holding the rope, So that's good for Deanna because one of the issues I always have with AAW is defining roles is who's a baby facing, who's the heel, And Deanna is kind of a baby face, but she's way better as a heel, so that works out as well. So but those to them. I don't know if Deanna Parazzo can have a bad match. Thunder Rosa never has a bad match, So like, I'm on board of those ladies going at it. You put those guys on every show and I'd be fine with him. The Acclaim defeats Cage of Agony. Let that one settle in in a trios match. We did not predict this match. I wonder if Bowen's receiving a letter from a fan before the match will be followed up at all. It was not on aw Dynamite this past Wednesday, as it felt like a storyline there he is going for the getting scissor made from the fans and a planted wrestler puts a note in between his fingers. So hopefully that gets followed up on in rampay or Collision this week. Uh. And then also, Cage of Agony is an awful name. I mean just ended there. What what what person came up with that? That was awful? There was the last minute like we can't use let's let's not use gates. What can we use this nut?

16:15 It's metal? Uh and confining. Hey, we have cages in this Brian cage. We just called them cage of a Cage of Agony. Sounds like a Steven Sagall action movie. No, you're being kind. I was going more rated at Triple X. Yeah, that and that was gonna go for like bad TNA pay per view name fair well, but yeah, and I don't get like so we just featured the Gates of Agony in this whole turn angle against the world champion a couple of weeks ago, and now they're losing out to the acclaimed in Daddy Ass. Like I just it's It's what was the whole point of the big turn If you're just gonna have them lose on a pre show match at a pay per view, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes main guard here, Will Ospray defeats Roger Strong to win the AW International Championship. We both had Will Ospray winning this match. Does Ospray have a bad match? If so, what does that look like? Because this was the perfect start for the show. Really enjoyed this match, fast, hard hitting, great ring work, incredibly enjoyable matches.

17:22 Ospreys our new aw International champion. I will say like it was a great match. I will say the one thing I hated was that leaping doomsday device that the Kingdom hit on Ospray early in the match, and Ospray had landed on his head. He's back in the match ten seconds later. Like that move literally like damn near paralyzed people and it's heyday, and it's a move they hit on the floor. Osprey almost breaks his neck and then he's back up and going ten seconds later. So that's one of my issues I have with AW is they kind of kill certain moves by how fast guys get back up. But outside of that that match was fantastic and like you said, I don't think either guy can have a bad match, So it's almost too good of a match to have as the opener for your pay per view.

18:18 Rare move by AW, and I don't know when we'll get a chance to talk about on the episode, so let's talk about it now. MGF returns to AAW. He takes out Adam Cole and says he is all elite, which we all believed he was. He has been under contract to a new deal. It Reportedly he's the highest paid wrestler on the AW roster since twenty twenty two, so for the last like twenty or twenty two months somewhere around there. He has signed an extension. Unknown how long. He has a tattoo on his leg saying bet on yourself at the AW logo. Came back with like a new, refreshed look. Acknowledged that his character before he was off of TV or off of TV the last five months was kind of getting stale, made fun of the friendship and the kangaroo kick, and said that he's getting back to hate. Kind of a nod to Triple H.

19:07 With the return Denim Leather jacket from twenty twenty excuse me two thousand and two when Triple H returned to we at MSG and was broughting that for a while. Reports are out right now that MJF has some creative ideas that are completely out of left field. He looks rejuvenated, he looks rebooted. If you're looking for someone to help jump start the brand again, aw, MJF is the guy. Good segment, Doctor Trey. They also the other thing on this report is that they had him take out Adam Cole to blow off the stuff between he and Adam Cole because Cole is still quote nowhere near a return, which is really sad because we're coming up on a year from this ankle injury and also concerning so I guess that was like a way to write it off, which I aw creative doing and tying that up because I wouldn't want to see him return and completely ignore what took place five months ago. Nonetheless, the former AW world champion is back, Doctor Trey. Yeah, the segment was really good. Like the first thing I thought of I saw the denim j the jack at COMBA was the Triple Ah return, So like that was immediately the first thing I saw. Promo's really well done. My only thing is I would have placed it a little bit later in the show because if you're if mjf's your top paid guy and one of your featured guys, hey maybe move it to like the three quarter mark of the show and not the match, the segment right after the opening match, because this is the

20:38 guy you're building on. This is your franchise player, This is your Shane Douglas ECW, this is your Triple As John CWW, this is your guy. They don't do that segment early in the show on any of those other companies. They do it a little bit later to get that big blowoff pop and also helped save the audience for the main event. So placement, bad, segment good. I understand your point there on the audience, a live audience. I actually kind of liked the plan still because it was early on in the show where you just came off the red Hot Osprey Roger strong match and then came off of you know, a surprising segment that got the people on their feet. I didn't mind it, but I do completely understand where you meant, like, hey, maybe put this in towards the end of the show to get the crowd back up heading to the main event levels.

21:26 So MJF is back in All Elite Wrestling and he will be back on Dynamite this Wednesday as well. I thought they had another missed opportunity there, like they should have followed that up on this past Wednesdays Dynamite, but that's tends to go how it is sometimes with MJF and his appearances. Next match, yere is Bang Bang Gang defeating Death Triangle in a trios match, retaining the Unified World Trios Championship. We both had the Bang Bang Gang after watching this match, I really hope and want to see the trio's division really take off as it could be a really entertaining watch. As predicted, Juice Robinson return help the Bang Bang Gang brothers retain the match and the championship. Doctor Tray your thoughts on this one. Yeah, really fun triple or really fun stix Man tag loves Hee, Juice Robinson back and just like the trios title could be really great in AW just because of the sheer volume of stables that we have in AW. It's a good way to keep groups active and not just stall out in storylines. So There's plenty of challengers they can throw at the Bang Bang Gang and they are arguably outside of sort of strictly still the most entertaining act in AW times. Tony Storm defeats Serena Deeb to retain the aw Wodman's World Championship. We both at times, Tony Storm, we have a victory. I hope AW capitalizes on the fans chairing for the heal Tony Storm rather than the babyface Serena Deep and I feel like they will because Deep acknowledge the crowd charing for Storm at points in the match. Same with how they will play off of Mariah May wanted to throw in the title, only to

22:56 be stopped by Luther, who then got blamed for trying to throw the towel in by timeless Tony Storm. This match got better as the bout went on, and you could feel both women felt the momentum build towards the finish. Really enjoyable match. It's a shame they didn't follow it up on Wednesday's Dynamite. There was a segment where I believe it was supposed to be Siraya taking on I think Mariah May, which is now carried over to next Wednesday's Dynamite. They could have followed up from some of this stuff. I guess again, we'll just have to see if stuff gets followed up on Rampage and Collision this week. Nonetheless, this was a really good match that got better as it went on. Doctor Trey, This is almost to me like one of those perfect kind of matches in the sense of where you have like the great wrestler who may not have a ton of personality versus the great personality who's a solid wrestler, and sometimes when those two entities meet up, you have great matches. And this is one of those examples where it's like Siria Deeb is like Deanna Parrazzo and Thunder Wrestlers. She doesn't really or have a bad match Tony Storm, great character. Sometimes matches are hit and miss, but this would really well. It got better went on. They felt more confident as a match went on, and it laid out pretty well. So great solid match for these two. Next match here is Orange Casside defeats Trent and BURRETTA we both hat Trump Barrett again the victory here. Really digging the character development for both wrestlers in this feud. From Bretta becoming a sociopath to the darker colors, black sunglasses, black shirt for Orange Cassidy. Great stuff and feud from both guys. AW needs to use this stuff, needs to use stuff

24:27 like this as a blueprint for their creative I know we've kind of trashed some things that weren't followed up on Dynamite this past Wednesday. However, this was followed up up on Wednesdays Dynamite where Don Challis offered a spot to the Calls family to Orange Cassidy. He turned it down. Trent Bretta accepted, Chris Statlander and Sookly Hathaway, which we'll get towards them later on in this recap came out and accepted. They kind of tied off their recent storyline stuff that we'll talk about here shortly in that segment as well. Orange Cassidy than Don all the black again in the match, which I thought was interesting, and we'll see how that develops. This is a blueprint of how a good feud and entertaining feud and great in ring stuff can happen on lawlid Wrestling and hat tipped everybody involved here. Doctor Trey's Orange Cassidy got the victory. Yeah.

25:18 The only thing about this is I like the black shirt Orange Cassidy, the edge eared Orange Cassidy, But why didn't we bring this side out at least once during the John Moxley stuff like this could be his demon for Finn Valor? Is this you know edgier Orange Cassidy. Look, it's a good way to also refresh the character because it shows another layer to the Orange Cassidy character that we haven't seen before. So that part's great. The storyline, the storytelling, the way they're actually tying the ends up in this angle is what you and I have been asking for, so we I get really happy about it. And I forgot to mention this for the first match. Don Cals's on common terry for will Ospray's match, and they actually brought that up that Osprey was supposed to be the count in part of don Kal's family. He's like, well, it's an affiliation, you know. It's like okay, So they're trying to tie some stuff together. They're listening to the audience and like, hey, we need to make some storylines make sense and not stop and start. So I give this. This match was really well done and really fun and they're actually doing what we've been asking, which is, hey, we want some stories to go to the great wrestling and then make the stuff make sense, even if it's a loose storyline coming together. We just want to feel like there's a story to give depth to the characters and the action in the race. Next match here is Chris Jericho defeting Hook and Kattie or Shabad in a three way FTW rules match, retaining the FTW Championship, both at Jericho getting the victory. I just would like to see something different

26:49 from Jericho and aw where as some sort of state instead of it where he has some sort of stable televiate wrestlers, with the addition now the bounty hunter Brian Keith to join he and Big Big Bill. I almost called them big casts in the Learning Tree group. It's it's like we've seen this play out with the Jericho Appreciation Society, the Inner Circle. And while I like this new iteration of Chris Jericho where he's like this eighties babyface that doesn't understand why, like the crowd is booing him or whatever, it's like we've seen the stable stuff play out so often. Anyway, Jericho gets the victory we see it play out on Wednesday's Dynamite a little bit more as Brian Keith explains why he joined up and now Simo Joe's got involved with Hook, which I'm digging.

27:34 Doctor Trey, your thoughts on this one, Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know, like, have they said the name of the group is like the Learning Tree Group or the Learning Like, have they said it's called their Like have they actually gave it an official name yet? They have not? Not yet, because the Learning Tree does sound like, you know, a school for people with like special needs, so like, I'm a little like leary of that. But even this iteration, Jericho's one of those ones where I'm like, I'm not sold on, Like it's funny, but I saw this with Johnny Swinger and TNA where he was basically acting like an Eddie's babyface, so I've kind of seen it, so it's not that fresh to me. But anything with Jericho usually I can get entertained by, Like this match itself I really didn't care for, which was a disappointment because usually with Jericho and Shabada and Hook, you put those guys in a match, it should be fantastic, And this one was eh, so like I think I'm with you. Like to me, Jericho in a mid car with a mid cart stable is just kind of wasting Jericho's what you could actually use him for.

28:37 So I just I'm just on this whole thing right now. Next match here is John Moxley defeeding Kenoski, Takeshka and an IWGPU World of aweight Championship eliminator match. We both at Maxleig getting victory. Interesting how the commentators post match blamed Takeshka listening to callous by bringing in the chairs that cost him the match. They did not follow up on that on Wednesday's time. In my also, Rick Knox is an interesting referee as he clearly saw mox throw the chair out of the ring in this uh and it was it definitely was not a new Japan style booked match here, Doctor Trey is John Moxley retained defend Kenoski to Keshka. Yeah, this is another match where I was kind of like like I was really excited for this match and it just and maybe us to finish the finish has kind of brought it down for me because overall, like I was like super ceverge match because I like Takeshka a lot. Everything he's done so far in AW, he's been fantastic. Obviously, Moxley is just the star wart workhorse of AW. Even when he doesn't want to work, he ends up working matches anyway. But this match and the finish and then the obvious, like you know, the referee obviously sees I mean just like we saw it king in the ring. It's like, damn just either makes the ref look bad or makes the match look bad. So it kind of brought it down for me. So it was it was good, but it could have been way better to finish it been tightened up a little bit.

29:57 Next match is Adam Copeland feeding Malachai Black and a barbed wires steel cage match retaining a W ten TE championship. I had Adam Copeland, Doctor Tray and Malachai Black. Uh. It's a damn shame that Copeland fractured as tibby in this match and heat surgery after that gnarly elbow drop spot. It's it's also amazing he didn't get more hurt in that spot. It's nice to see gran Gangrell get his flowers this match and school that Copeland has wanted to get him a chance to receive these flowers, because you keep hearing like the amount of times he wants to get Gang Grell involved. It's really unfortunate we won't be able to see this immediate play out following this match due to Copeland's injury. We'll talk a little bit more about the T and T Championship here briefly and what's going on with that Doctor Trey. But Adam Copland defeats Malachai Black to retain the title he has now unfortunately been stripped off. Yeah, and once again, like to me, like you called it for on our on our previous show, you said, Grell get involved. I love seeing it.

30:57 I was surprised the brood on the on the tron, which aren't you amazed that w does it still hold the trademark to that They let a lot of things lap like that was something I thought they might hang on to. But you know, it proved his point. He was right. The crowd remembered who Dan Grill was and popped for it, so that's great. I also liked the little homage to I don't know, I don't know if you want to call it like an homage to the Judgment Day turning on Adam Copeland. But like the clothes line from Brody King on Copeland when they looked like they were sighting with him, I thought that was kind of like a throwback to Damian Priest taking out Edge, like you know, with the whole Judgment Day thing. So but overall, it is a shame that, you know, with the injury, the sort to throw things out of whack. And it is also ironic because I had just listened to his appearance on the Chris Van Valley Show where they talked about Matt Hardy coming off the top of the cage with the leg drop and how Matt basically couldn't walk for weeks after that leg drop, and then Edge gets injured doing something semi so, so it just sucks for everybody involved because this has been really entertaining, has been really fine, and even if this was the blowoff, like you would have wanted to see some kind of continuation for these guys even to go separate directions to build off this, and now it's just kind of like a stop for all parties involved because you have to kind of figure out where you go next with everybody. Yeah, and I haven't seen the timetable and when they expect he'll be out for but I mean it's got to be anywhere between six and twelve months, which is like just a mass blow for AW two loose Eddie Kingston

32:29 and Adam Copeland too broken legs in less than a month. I mean Copeland. I felt like Adam Copeland started to get more acclimated to the AW world and was really starting to get going with this fewd and it's like, oh man, it's like whenever Copeland gets going, he gets completely an injury happens, and now he's gone. We saw this play out in WWE when he returned in twenty twenty and he got hurt like five months in interested he acknowledged that that probably it's his body, saying like, yo, dude, you have got to slow down. And it's kind of funny that ww was trying to do that with him instead of playing you know, wrestler every single week. But it's a damn shame, absolute damn shame. And now we have a TNT Championship tournament taking place. Doctor Trey. For a second, I was like, oh man, are they just going to hand the title Jack Perry here, which creatively actually would have made sense. But I'm happy that we're going to see some sort of qualifying match matches take place, and there's gonna be like a tournament final of sorts in a ladder match for Forbidden Dora.

33:34 I'm digging that it's gonna be playing out creatively that way. Yeah, it makes sense because you want people to earn it now. Honestly, Like what I would love to see is basically there's like qualifiers and then you get five people you know who have fought their way in and then for Matt and Nick to go, oh yeah, and Jackson this match now too, and I woantn't be surprised if that happens. That would help. That's how I would kind of book it to like at least set it up that way, so that way it lends Cream's the character because I don't know. Once again, you and I talked about Jack Parry's one hundred and sixty pounds. He's barely bigger than Marco Stunt. So sometimes when he's in a match, you have to put him in positions where he can win just on brain power then physical attributes. So doing it like that would make a lot of sense.

34:21 Next match here is Mercedes mone defeating Willow Nightingale to win the aw TBS Championship. We both had Mercedes Monee getting the victory. I love the technical focus on softening the legs of their opponent on each lady. The finish was kind of clunky indeed, and it didn't build up well, but Mercedes has not lost a step in the ring. I thought Money would have been booed going into this one, and I felt bad that Willow was a transitional champion. Monet was not booed at all. It was building that way and it did not take place in Las Vegas. Statlander and Stokely turning on Willow post match was surprising, and I wonder if Trump writer played a role in this. Now they did not. They kind of acknowledge that potentially on Dynamite, because you would see when all these situations happened, Statlander would come out, Bretta would whisper in her ear, and then he would walk away and she would kind of look perplexed. And I wonder if that had some stuff that was going on that led to this turn, and I would love to see that, you know, kind of alluded to a little bit more on aw television if that was something they were trying to creatively get done. Nonetheless, Mercedes Monee defeats well and Nightingaleen is the new AWTBS champion. Dot to try.

35:27 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hate this match as much as I thought I would hate this match. But I didn't love this match either, like it's it's usually in this Like you're right, MERCEDESMANI has not lost a step. Sometimes when she's wrestling people that are maybe a little bit below her level, she drops to their level. I thought she carried herself as well as she carried Willow, so I thought it was a pretty good match all things considered. I am I am perplexed by Statlander the whole situation with the don Kallis family, because I don't remember ever there being a faction that had two managers in the faction. Like That'll be interesting to see how that dynamic plays out if indeed Stokely is in the don Kallis family. I well, the Statlanders stuff. I don't think she joined them though, Yeah, and she's not really not joining them either, No, I don't. I think we just have to see that play out a little bit more. I don't think that she and Stokely joined the Don Callis family. I think that they just basically acknowledged that Trump may have played a role in it, which I which I thought was really good creative on that standpoint. But yeah, and I thought that that's it's a good way of turning it. But then like a the same time, I like going, well, but if if she's yeah, it's just I'll wait to plays out because I love I actually like Stokely Hathaway a lot. I think he's very, very underrated in what he does, so I like I was. That's why back in the day I was excited for the firm. Could it be Stokely on a bigger platform? So

37:00 I like Stokely getting TV time a long, and I think stat Lander as a heel is going to be great, So I'm really excited for that. It's just the the movements to get there are kind of intertwined, and I need to unravel it a little bit. Next match here, Swerve Strickland defeating Christian Kates retaining the AW World Champions. You're both at Swerve Strickling getting the victory. This match made me feel like Swerve is now a world champion. Christian helped Swerve look and feel ligitimate. If there were any doubters out there, the house call kick while Christian was going for a spirit was an awesome spot. They have done a really good job of making Swerve Strickland look like a legitimate force as world champion. And I'm digging at Doctor Trey for two guys that have been harsh on aw Lay as we've been pointed out as you got it, I have got to give them credit that I think the creative of Swerve in these matches he's had has been really good. Your thoughts on this one A Swerve Strickland retains, Yeah, I love this match because I hated that there's going to be a winner and a loser's match, because I've loved everything Christian Cage has done since he started this whole patriarchy angle, like I love it. I love aultree heels. I love those guys that don't give a crap if anybody ever cheers them again, Like, I love that stuff, and the Swarve stuff has been It's been a little bit of a roller coach for me because I like Swerve as the heel, but I'm really gravitating towards him now as a Babyface. This match was one of those matches where, to me, if you're watching this, you're like, damn, he just made that guy a bigger star. What AW needs to do now

38:34 is get Swerve out more into the public because he is the hottest act on their show. You need mainstream attention on him as well, so that elevates the entire brand and elevates his star level. Because when people go, hey, Aw's got all these guys from WWE, who's their champion and you say, oh, yeah, Swerve strictly, you're still gonna get a lot of who They need to get him out there more in the public so casual wrestling fans know who he is and that helps elevate his starter because right now he's on a rocket ship and you need to take advantage of this. And then finally the main event, the Elite because it'scho called a jack Perry Matthew Nicholas Jackson defeat Team AW Bryan Danielson, Darby, Allen Cash, Wheeler and Dax Hardwood an anarchy in the arena match, we both had the Elite get and the victory. They need to consider having music play throughout the entire match because it is a really cool atmosphere when it is playing. They were doing that with final countdown and then it was a very funny moment where Matthew Jackson had them stop because of how much it costs, and like that's actually a legitimate thing. Every time it's played, it like costs them like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. This is probably aw's most fun match concept that they have created, even though the Casino Gauntlet match that I watched on Wednesday's Dynamite and now that's the second time they've done that, may be in the running for it as well. It was entertaining and an engaging match. The only thing is that it can be hard to follow what happened to the other wrestlers for a while. Jack Perry getting the finishing blow on Danielson was great for his character as well. We saw that get followed up on Wednesdays Dynamite. The

40:07 fire spot with him was ballsy and something that will be remembered in AW history for a long time. Really enjoyable match for me. Doctor Trey is the Elite wins an arcade they arena. So is the stadium Stampede match still a thing or has this replaced it. I think this has replaced it because they're not in the stadium anymore. Okay, so yeah, because this, to me was the most fun one I have seen since maybe the second Stadium stampede they did. This was just it was fun. It is hard to follow you have eight guys fighting in other parts of the of the arena. It's you almost have to go like quad screen. You can't do split screen.

40:47 You have to like almost have four different screams up to follow the action because it's hard to know for camera cuts when to jump to this guy, when to jump to this action. You really have to play it out in detail with your pa, with your director as to when to cut to certain things. But outside of that, I mean, that's the only negative I have other than that it was fun. It was great for everybody involved. The flame throwers, the fire like, all this stuff that we haven't seen in any of the previous entities in this match was fun as well. And at least it's Jack Parry, Like you also had Jack Perry in a match with two guys that are about his size, so at least it makes it look more credible when he hits a finisher and gets a win, you know, like Darby's his size, dances his size, even Dax and Dash aren't or Dacks in Cash aren't that much bigger than him, so at least it lends credibility. I mean, and even the Bucks aren't that big. Like when Kazushka Okada is the biggest guy in an eight man tag match, that's really telling on the size of the wrestlers involved. So but I thought everybody came out. Look he's strong. But it did more for the aw stuff.

41:53 And like you said, the music stuff is great. I really like these big matches like this, when you've got stuff going over where everywhere, be really cool. Like if you had two guys Funny over here they have their own soundtrack playing, and two guys over here they have a completely different soundtrack playing, that would be kind of cool as well. A Match of the night in event Radio excuse me, papers you prediction record. I went nine and one, Doctor Trey went eight and two. I just want to say that Doctor Trey and I to completely dislocate our shoulders and pat ourselves on the back AW Dynasty W Backlash W Queen and King and Queen of the Ring. Both of us went twenty and oh in our predictions for all three of those shows, and in the last four pay per views, I went twenty nine to one. Doctor Trey went twenty eight and two. I mean, can we can we parlay this into like DraftKings or FanDuel, Like, what are we doing? Can we parlay this into getting on the booking committee for AW?

42:46 Maybe? Maybe? So I'm just want to say we're doing pretty damn good for predictions. I'm at sixty four and nine on the year, Doctor Tray at fifty eight and fifteen. Match of the Night and event ratio. I gave my Match the Night to well lost Brain Roderick Strong. That was a tough call because I thought Swerve and Christian was in there, and I thought Elite and teammate w was in there as well. As an event rating, I gave it a three point nine out of five. Doctor Trey, Well, okay, I'm gonna top you again. I went four point one. I really enjoyed the show, I guess I Queen King of the Ring was solid. This show, to me was a little more fun. I imagine. I was Swerve and Christian because they're my two favorite guys in AW to watch and they had a really solid damn match, So I can't ost Bray and Strong was great, Anarchy in the arena was great, even you know, Malachi and Copeland was great. But to me, Swerve and Cage are my two favorite guys to watch and that they had a hell of a match, I can't go against that one. So again, Doctor Trey and I have really enjoyed another twenty twenty four AW pay per view. So before anybody goes out there and says like we're haters, we're not. We really actually enjoy what is going on from all wrestling. While there is stuff that is very positive, there's obviously the negative spin of it as well. A report came out heading into Double or Nothing Doctor Trey that, according to Wrestling Observer Newsletter, AW went from a fun place to work with a great backstage camaraderie when w talent for the most part, we're walking on eggshells to a place with a lot of frustration from wrestlers making a nice and even great living

44:20 but not getting anywhere near the ringtime nor upward mobility they had hoped for. That came to us again from Wrestling Observer Newsletter. It reminds me of like everything that we had heard about twenty nineteene when AW launched. There was also a report out there, I think for Brian Alvarez that said that there's a lot of changes to dynamites and collisions and rampages heading into like hours before the show, sometime like as the show's going on, which reminds me a lot OFE. So it appears that there's some wrestlers that are frustrated right now, and that's not a good thing because w's hitting on all cylinders and AW why they had a great pay per view over the weekend. They're doing some stuff that got people really upset when they work for WA and you're seeing people walk away or their contracts expire. Ethan Page will talk about him in a little bit. Jack Hager his report. His contract has reportedly expired, Mark Henry and arn Anderson back behind the scenes, their contracts have expired. You've heard about wrestlers not being happy with their time in All Elite Wrestling because they're not one of Tony Kahan's favorites. So it's just funny how the script has flipped five years later. Doctor Trey Well, and it's one of the things we talked about this is one of the things where we talked about them starting a Collision was I was in favor of splitting the splitting the roster in half because it would give more TV time to certain people. And when you see the same guys on Dynamite and Collision and then Rampage is the only show left over, and half of that show is recapping what happened on Dynamite, you're gonna

45:52 have guys fighting for TV time. And it is the nature of the beast. When you have a loaded roster, Not everybody can be featured, Not everybody can get a push. You just kind of have to wait your turn and make the most of your TV timing and strike while the iron's hot. And some guys get that, and some guys don't like swerve. Early on in his aw run was not getting a ton of TV time, but when he got TV time, he made the most of it and made his moments count. So I get the frustration. But once again, when you get your chance, what are you doing to stand out from the crowd and become one of Tony's favorites to where then he utilizes you more than you know he was. So it's the nature of the beast like if you have a loaded baseball team, not you only have nine guys on the field at a time, You're gonna have a bunch of guys sitting on the bench. You just got to make the most of your opportunities when you get them. I did see an interview with Tony Kahan recently, and he talked about maybe making Dynamite three hours and like six hours of programming maybe the sweet spot to get everybody featured. I don't even know about that anymore. I mean, if we saw plenty of that were not good and they were three hours, and now that they're utilizing that time very correctively, it certainly doesn't feel like a three hour show like it used to anymore. So it's just interesting that how much WA and AW like flipped in recent memory of the way that things are being operated in AW versus W. I never thought I would see them basically trade personalities. There's other stuff out there right now that's reportedly saying that Tony Kahan

47:28 is a lot harder to get a hold of than in recent memory as well, which is not good. You want a boss that you can get a hold of and have good you know, communication and transparency, which is something that may be lacking all lead wrestling according to some of the reports out there that are out there right now. So something to keep an eye on when it comes to all lad wrestling, and I guess something that may keep an eye on for all elite wrestling is if there's any interest with some of the WWE stars that contracts are currently coming up. Three big names that are out there that contracts are coming up as of early as next week and even this weekend, Becky Lynch, Natalia and Chad Gable, according to Dave Meltzer and ar Wrestling Observer newsletter. He said, quote, Becky Lynch is taking an extended leave. From what I was told, It's not like a short period of time. She was looking for a long period of time out. If he seth Ron's not on the road, it makes sense for her not to be on the road. They can't be hurting from money or anything where they need it right now. Maybe she's looking at other things and maybe she's not.

48:24 Everybody is believing that she will return to We Doctor Trey, but if and when she returns, it may be some time. Did we just watch Becky Lynch's last match inde weev in the year twenty twenty four. Let's see, we're in end of May sixth I will say probably, yes, I don't we might not see Becky until the Rumble, Like does that make sense because I kind of see this although is this kind of like the Johnny was this like the Gargano Cannie lay break, you know where it's like, hey, they might both be gone for six months, Like let them both take time off like these two and I'm counting Seth, Like Seth and Becky have been basically the workhorses of WWE for quite some time. Like, let them take the break, let them have some time off, let them refresh, recharge, come up with some left field ideas. I'll mja up and take take a break, get recovered, heel rested, reinvigorated, take some time off with the baby roue, which I thought it wouldn't rue the baby kangaroo from Winnie the Pooh by the way, Yeah, okay, I'm getting confirmation that is correct, that is true. Yeah, So let him take some time off and then let Becky make her return. Let Seth come back and survivor series and let Becky come back at the Rumble. Yeah, I don't think Becky's leaving. I mean Seth resigned with w w wee courding reports, so I can't see her leaving. I am concerned about the other names, Chad Gable and Natalio, because they've both been featured on WE television lately, especially Chad Gable courting Fight Full Select. Chad Gables WE contract is set to

49:59 expire next week unless an extension or a new deal is reached, and he is in one of the best I think top five storylines in WWE right now, Doctor Trey, Like, that's shocking that it's getting that eerily close, unless of who he thinks there's no way he's leaving, or maybe Chad Gables said I'm not leaving. Let's work out these details and we'll be good to go. Yeah. I don't see Gable leaving, I mean literally, Like one of his best friends is Jason Jordan, producer for the show. He's been featured way more. I do love that was it was it Corey Graves or who or who might been to wait, you know, might be big Ee. That referenced the shorty g gimmick on the kickoff show at King of the Ring this weekend, and I was like, ooh, I didn't know we were going to bring that stuff up, because basically, if Otis turns on Gable Monday Night, gables contract hasn't been resigned. He's gonna be off TV for a while. If Otis doesn't turn Monday Night, then Gables resigned, he'll be around for a while. So I'm not worried about Gable.

50:57 And Italia might be the more interesting one because even though her husband's a producer for WWE, she does have the tie into Owen's family if they're doing the whole Owen Heart tournament coming up soon. So it wouldn't surprise me seeing an Italian jump from ww to AW and the show up for the Owen Hart Tournament. That wouldn't be shocking because she's been there forever and although she's getting features in storylines, it's NXT type stuff and not you know, Women's World Championship, Women's Championship, none of those title matches. So I wouldn't be shocked to see Natalia jump more maybe more so than anybody any of the other three we mentioned, or up to two we mentioned. According to Dave Maltim regards to Natalia, he said that Natalia has reportedly still not signed a new deal from w WI, saying, quote, yeah, she hasn't signed a new deal, but you know, I don't know that there's anything to be alarmed over anything like that, but that is the situation. So Natalia may be free as well. I would be shocked if all three of them are not with w WIE by the end of next month. Yeah, I mean I would be too. I mean Becky said the same thing a couple a few weeks back, heading into WrestleMania, that she wasn't she wasn't worried about her contracts. She thought it would all get worked out. So I expect all three to re sign basically because you know, two of them their significant others are still in the company and Chad Gable, Like, if Chad Gable jumped to AW, he wouldn't get featured any more than anybody else. He'd be

52:28 at the bottom of the car, and right now he's got a good storyline. If I had to pick one of the three to jump, it might be probably an Italia. But I don't expect any one of the three to go to AW. And the last thing I want to bring up here on this week's edition the podcast is Doctor Trey match at the start of the show. A ton of wrestling this past week. We had Friday SmackDown and Rampage, Saturday Collision and King Queen the Ring, Sunday Double or Nothing, Monday Raw, Tuesday NXT, Wednesday, aw DYNA Might, and here we are today recording. So every day of the week since we last recorded, there's been restling going on. And I thought the one program that was the most potentially one of the most underrated and entertaining and surprisingly entertaining shows this week was WWE NXT. It felt like a throwback this past Tuesday, argaining back to the days of when it was on the w NET for an hour and then it would lead into all those great takeovers that we saw from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen. And the reason for that is it was good wrestling, buzzworthy surprises, and it was just an interesting episode of the show. The surprise is Ethan Page now with WE. He takes out Trick Williams and is revealed to be the one that took out Oro Mensa and Noam Dar over the last couple of weeks on NXC Television. Jordan Grace, the current TNA Knockouts Champion makes a surprise debut in NXT and she is set to challenge Roxane Perez for

53:58 the NXT Women's Championship at Battleground at the UFC Apex next Saturday, which is like a mind blowing match that w and TNA are having a one on one match in the history of this entire podcast, because at one time, TNA was the legit number two. More on that relationship in just a second. And then I had no idea who she was. And this is just the thirty seven year old male in me. I had no idea who Sexy Red was. I have no clue. Doct Trey, did you have any idea? I thought that was Kevin Nash's ego in the wolf Back of NWOL. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean that's where I would have landed as well. She was an interesting host. She definitely made the camera go into different directions the other night because of some of the things that she was doing in the ring. I guess she's pretty popular, but I thought she did her job pretty decently well. And I guess she's gonna be sticking around NXT for a little bit here and there as well. I love this past week's edition of NX Doctor Trey, it felt like a throwback episode and I was like, this is the black and Gold brand that I loved. Yeah.

55:07 No, the Ethan Page stuff reminded me of when Bobby Rude came in NXT. I know it did, Samoa Joe I got those vibes too, Yeah, it was. I mean the difference was they you know, we kind of saw that they did the shot of the guys in the crowd, you know, weeks before they actually debuted. You could do Ethan Page, but like the appearance, the way he was presented, like he's already being presented as a main event level talent in his first night there in NXT. And then to me, the the Jordan Gray stuff. I think this is one of the things where like Triple H might have heard of her or knew a little better, but then when he saw her in person and saw how jacked and ripped she is, was kind of like, oh, and she can wrestle too, Holy cow. Like that's one of the things where it just feels like she became a Triple H person just right away when they first like laid eyes on each other, because that's how it felt and the presentation the Shock, and I love the report I read where in rehearsals they didn't they never use her music, they used other people's music, and Roxane Prez did not want to know who it was going to be because she wanted a genuine reaction as well. Oh, I didn't know that part. I heard that they put down like Alexa Bliss and Lida and I actually played like Leda's music.

56:22 I did not know Roxane press that did not want to know who it was. Yeah, they had told her, they had, They told her that she had a mystery opponent, but she was like, well, I don't want to know who it is. I want just to find out when we do it. And then she did not know it was going to be Jordan Grace. Wow. So that reaction she got with the music hit and she's and she saw her walk out was legit. So like, I thought that was really well done. That's also why Roxanne really didn't say a whole lot in that promo. When I went back and forth, it was Bailey Jordan talking because Roxanne didn't know who it was going to be. She couldn't prepare for it. So I thought it was really well done. Loved the segment. It was a lot of that throwback by because it gave me a little bit of you know, Monday Night War throwback when surprise appearances and shocking angles and it did you google Sexy Red during the show? When you or after the show? I did before the show or and when they were leading into it. I still don't have like my head around exactly like I guess she's a rapper. I guess I'm with you, but that but that's exactly what they wanted is for us older people to go, wait, who is this person? And then google it because now she's trending. The show's trending from the people who knew she was. So they did exactly what they want to do by getting eyes on the product and getting each entity known, whether it's like wrestling fans googling sexy Red or sexy Red fans googling NXT to find out what that is. They accomplished their task. So it was a great show from top to bottom. And I'm look, you know, if anybody's listened to the show for the last five years, you guys know, I'm an Ethan Page fan from his time in TNA with the North with Josh Alexander

57:53 so loves some Ethan Page loves them Jordan Grace and like just a great show from top to bottom. The big new here is obviously there is some sort of deal between W and TNA. According to reports, Jordan Grace has three appearances with an XTD, the one we just saw this past Tuesday. She'll be taking on Stevie Turner and a match on NXC television this Tuesday, and then the Battleground match that Saturday, and the three appearances are somewhere in the six figure range, which is a very nice pay day for Jordan Grace. WW is obviously very high on her. She's still under contract for at least a year, according to the reports. Rest of Votes tweeted out earlier on Thursday, saying quote, while the exact details of the dealer are unknown, as they should be, I'm told the partnership between WW and t and A has been months in the making. W love the feedback and energy from Jordan Grace's Rumble appearance, and we're eager to use her again. Opportunely, there are tentative plans for additional superstars to make crossover appearances in due time. Both companies understand that a slow, thoughtful approach is the best way forward in the beginning stages. A fan head ass also, is there a possibility of Jordan winning the championship at Battleground and rest of us said possibility question mark, Yes, So there is some sort of agreement there, and it's groundbreaking w for WWE, Doctor Tree, because this is not something they typically do, Doctor Trey, and to see ww and TNA working together here in twenty twenty four definitely warms my twenty ten heart when we first started doing this podcast, and I'll be really intrited to see where this goes moving forward. If it's just going to be NXC only if we see some raw or SmackDown folks over there,

59:27 if we see some TNA folks not only jump to NXC, but raw or SmackDown as well. This definitely benefits both brands, obviously TNA more than WWE, because why would w WE need more eyes on it. It just goes to show that anything can happen in worldrest and entertainment, and that is a good thing. I dig this, Doctor Trey. I'm excited for this deal between the two companies and hopefully it plays out a lot more than my excitement back in what was it late twenty twenty when AW and TNA were working together. Well, I mean the excitement level we had in twenty twenty was great. The payoff was what was really disappointed us. But yeah, like I'm I'm really excited for this, Like I'm you know, everybody knows I'm the teena guy I watch probably more ten than anybody else on this show.

1:00:09 I have friends in that company, I have friends in NXC and WWE, so for me to see it play out is really great. And selfishly, I believe one of my bold predictions was gonna be that ww bought out TNA this year, so maybe there's still an inkling of a chance. Because the more opportunities for their wrestlers and I mean WW NXT wrestlers and maybe even SmackDown and raw guys to get ring time anywhere they can and be featured anywhere they can is good for the product as a whole as it expands and grows. So hey, if you see you know, Rich Holland show up and impact wrestling like that would be fantastic. By the way, going back Ethan Page, I love that they literally started to say, oh my god, that's Ethan Page, didn't we just see him in a And then Booker t cut them off mid sentence. I don't know if you heard that on the show, and then laid out like that. I was as well that they started to allude to it, but then it cut off and guys like you and me when he almost said ae w and they didn't do it. But I love how they played that off verbally. Yeah. No, according to the reports, that was a line that was scripted for Vic Joseph. So that was really cool and I liked that they're doing that. I like their acknowledge in that. And as Doctor Trey matched, that was one of his bold predictions. He had TKO Group Holdings buys TNA Wrestling and uses it as a developmental brand. So that's maybe maybe it's happening. You know. There were some rumblings that maybe TNA was going to be joining WE network on Peacock they

1:01:42 were calling their show's premium live events. There's plenty of former w stars over there now, like Musafa Ali and Nick Nemith known as DOLFH. Siegler. So like musaf Ali was set to be like really, I think he was gonna win the North American Championship and then they fired him and he's gone on to have a really good independent career so far. So there's a lot of former Doughue talents that are in t and A right now that we'll see how that crossover plays out and where this goes from here. So you know, if you get an NX T versus TNA storyline at some point, I'm here for it. It only benefits both brands and gets more eyes on the professional wrestling product. So very cool times it felt like a throwback episode of NXT and I really dug it. With that said, let's close up shop on this week's edition the show and get a couple plugs and sponsors out of the way. You can download the show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guy Radio dot com, Russell Chattnet on X and the Still Rail the Show iTunes feed, don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us come the charts on iTunes. You can follows individually on X for myself at SRTU Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at The Doctor Trey And of course don't forget the fall show on X at SRTU podcast with that being said, what's going on the one for World of Dot Trey Franklin this week? Well, like Joe said, you can find me on x at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook, Doctor Trey frank Clint. When you're on Facebook, be sure you got there and check out Rocket Sea Championship Wrestling. They have a big show coming up this Saturday, which I would love to be a part of, but this giant cast on my foot is probably going to prevent me from going, So be sure check that out on Facebook. Chake

1:03:13 out Spartan Championship Wrestling on Facebook as well, and also goad and find out your local independent wrestling shows so you can find that person that's gonna make a surprise appearance on NXT or be featured on a Ring of Honor show, Because I don't know what Ring of Honor shows look like right now. I'm just gonna throw it out there, one last little bold prediction as we close up shop. Here you saw Brooks Jensen. If you haven't seen the ad on Twitter, he is reportedly saying that he is no longer with the company. I think it's all storyline and I want not be shocked if he shows up in TNA relatively soon, that would be a nice little fresh code of paint for him. A friend of Doctor Trey's who's now an NXT. So with that said, thank you for downloading, thank you for making us part of your week, spread the word about SRTU, and until next week when we preview predict WNXT Battleground for Doctor Tree Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. This is this is the rid of the show.

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