WrestleMania 41 Main Events Set and John Cena’s Farewell Tour Promise | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #790 – 04/03/25
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We break down the latest WrestleMania 41 card, with Night 1 & 2 main events set—but what’s the hold-up on this one huge match?
- -- WWE is inducting Austin vs. Hart from WrestleMania 13 into the...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We break down the latest WrestleMania 41 card, with Night 1 & 2 main events set—but what’s the hold-up on this one huge match?
- -- WWE is inducting Austin vs. Hart from WrestleMania 13 into the Hall of Fame as the first-ever "immortal moment"—but did they pick the right match?
- -- John Cena promises to bring MORE of THIS to his farewell tour—will it deliver what WWE fans really want?
- -- Plus, we look towards AEW Dynasty this Sunday on PPV!
0:00 It's still real to me, damn it! What up, you! Welcome everybody! Welcome to this week's "Disturial" show, episode number 790 for April 3rd, 2025. Welcome to this week's edition of "ASRTU." I am one half the show, I am Jeff Pack, joined every single week my co-host along with Dr. Trey Franklin. Dr. Trey, we are all square on the favors my friend, right?
0:41 I mean, 20 bucks is 20 bucks, Jeff. I mean, there are certain favors that we don't talk about on this show. There are things that have happened in our past that got us to where we are. Look, I have never brought up the special favors. Excuse me, you did for Bauer to become an intern to become a producer. I never questioned your judgment on those, but I think that the favors that you thought were good on, but it wasn't the favor I was talking about. See what Dr. Trey is talking about is he told me that I should go with Boston Cream Donuts to give to Bauer. I went with Honey Glaze, he loved them, and then as they say, the rest is history.
1:25 It's true. So the rest is history, and here we are, 790 episodes later of "The Still Real Does" show. Welcome one and all. We are now in the month that is "Resomania Season." We are only two more episodes. An episode next week, and then the following week will be the actual preview and predictions edition of "Resomania 41 Weekend," which is absurd to think. As I was watching the close to wrong, how many episodes do they have left? Only two before they go into "Resomania," it is upon us folks. It is that time. The season is heating up, and like we have done the last couple weeks here, and we typically do during "Resomania Season," it is the "Resomania 41" card roundup.
2:10 Dr. Trey, we have one new and confirmed match for "Resomania 41." It will be the phenomenal AJ Styles take it on Logan Paul. Logan Paul and AJ Styles brawled with Logan getting the best of AJ after Logan formally challenged AJ to a match at "Resomania 41" on this past week's edition of "Raw." Adam Pierce made this match official on "X After Raw" this past week. I don't know why they're doing that. They've done that with a couple matches now. Nonetheless, here we are, AJ and Logan. That is official for "Resomania 41." Dr. Trey. Do you think they're trying to scoop themselves because some of these matches or hall of fame inductions get picked up by ESPN or variety or whatever it is?
2:54 So by putting it out on "X," they're able to scoop themselves so to speak and keep the... Instead of waiting to make it official the following Monday for "Fear of It Getting Out." There's gonna be some... I don't know. Maybe they owe Elon a favor and that's why they put it out on "X." Who knows. But I'm actually moderately excited for this match. Maybe not the build, maybe not everything else, but this might be one of those work-rate dream matches like two guys, athletically gifted. One of the best performers of our generation against a guy who's incredibly talented, who has delivered every opportunity.
3:42 He's had so far in the ring. I'm excited about this match just because of what the match itself might be. Maybe not so much the build to get to it. This is gonna be a test for Logan Paul. We believe he's talented. We believe he's athletic. This is the match and some may say, "Well, what about the Rollins match?" I hear you, but I feel like as Dr. Trey pointed out last week, AJ Styles could wrestle a broomstick at WrestleMania 41 and we would walk out of that week and going. That may be the best match of the weekend. I think this is a blue chip true test. You were going in there with one of the top veterans in the game right now in AJ Styles.
4:25 I just have this vibe that maybe this is a match that puts Logan Paul, the in-ring performer on the map and moves him up a level, Dr. Trey. I'm excited for this one because Logan does carry his own in the ring. Yeah, some of the knocks on Logan is he's still a buck shot, Larry. He did the assault and the mood assault and battery move and then he said he's never doing that again because the internet flameless. All of a sudden, we get to do pole for eyes or finisher, which is a beautiful looking move. This one is like, we all kind of think that 2025 after WrestleMania. Logan Paul is a guy who could challenge for the World Heavyweight Championship.
5:13 He could be on RAW as the World Heavyweight Champion and you need that match with somebody like AJ at WrestleMania to really cement. Especially like this is not AJ from five years ago. This is AJ who's still great but coming up multiple injuries, maybe lost half a step. Maybe Logan has to carry more weight in this match than he did with Seth Rollins. Can Logan ascend to that next level and really kind of take the ball by the orange so to speak? Let's get to the confirmed matches that are still will be breaking down here the first being Cody Rhodes defending WWE Championship against John Cena on SmackDown, Orton and Drew.
5:57 Maggattire have their eyes set on Cody already post WrestleMania 41. Cody confirms on RAW that they will be main eventing night to close out WrestleMania 41 weekend. Cena and Rhodes open up RAW for the third straight of week and have another great back and forth. This version pulled no punches making references to Vince McMahon picking Cena as his champion to Cody quote stealing money from billionaire's children. Okay Tony Khan. It has felt like they have raised the bar each week with their promo battles and this has been really fun. They close it out with Cody laying out Cena with a crossroads and I hope there is an agap from now until the next time they have an confrontation on WWE television heading to WrestleMania 41.
6:39 There's a bunch of rumors out there that this may have been seen as last television appearance before WrestleMania 41. I hope that is not the case. Cena was not promoted for an upcuffing in the condition of SmackDown or RAW so that does have me concerned. Maybe that's why they had him get laid out heading in WrestleMania 41. Each week during this international tour, Dr. Trey, it was like week one in Belgium really good. Week two in Glasgow really good. Even better in week three here we are in London, O2 Arena and this was like the best one they have yet. This has been really really good my work heading into WrestleMania 41. Your thoughts on the build for Cody and Cena.
7:20 Yeah but I agree with the way everything is kind of gone. My only excuse I'm sorry you are at the scene where I'm going to go off because I had strep last week after we finished up the show. So my throat is still a little raspy. But this one, I don't know Jeff, this last one the promo was great but it kind of felt more like babyface Cena when he was serious. Whether it was him calling out Roman Reigns like you better get used to this big dog if you want to step up. Like it was kind of like that. Like it wasn't as I guess, darting or like directed at the audience as much other than calling them dumb for buying into Cody.
8:06 Which isn't really a heel thing. It's still kind of baby, they were still a little baby face but for the most part like I still ate it up. This felt more like rock and Cena WrestleMania 29 and 30. Where you kind of didn't know which side you were on like I ate up both things these guys are saying and the funny part is is that the one thing I really want Cody to address. He hasn't done which is Cody standing where John Cena was 12 years ago calling out the rock. For being part time for turning his back on the universe and how John Cena ate rock up about that but now rock but now Cena is doing the exact same thing.
8:52 We haven't gone there yet really but outside of that that was one of better back and forth promos we've seen but maybe the worst sneak attack punch I have ever seen thrown. Like that was so telegraphed but outside of that it was really really well done the promos back and forth. Yeah I thought they did a great job and I think that they hit the points that is buzz worthy to grab people's attention online right. I mean that's what you're trying to get is you want people hate like because that was running daytime here in the United States being over in London and people may be scrolling on X whatever and they're seeing these clips from WWE or from a wrestling website that's like talking about Cena's referencing Tony Khan on WWE television.
9:39 Cody's referencing Vince McMahon on WWE television and people are going to go out of their way to check that out. I like the back and forth I agree with you to the extent that the punch was it was weak right the interaction there was certainly weak but I just felt like that they've raised the bar each and every week and they've done a very good job of getting the right. I was really excited about getting me excited for this WrestleMania match and as I was watching the segment I was like I think if this was a segment where I don't know let's say Cena was a face I don't think I would be this intrigued and this is like this it would have just been a feud on respect.
10:22 I think they're doing this and they're going back and forth and there's some animosity there is pulling me in more than if it was like a battle of respect. Do you think we need at least one appearance for the rock between now and many like you said. Oh yeah. I only got two more laws between them like for a guy who got is asked by three guys at elimination chamber. We've only seen one of those three guys really. Yeah. We kind of need something else to kind of bait the hook so to speak I think lead into like I think it's fine but it still feels a little bit of like.
11:06 I don't want to say it's mutual disrespect or how it's not mutual adverb like it just doesn't feel as it feels doesn't feel personal doesn't feel violent yet like we've seen one crossroads really like that's it like and these guys beat you down and left you bloody and laying in the ring. Like I think we still need a little bit more something else on the hook to really cement this for night to a WrestleMania. Well that's what scene of rocks I mean roads brought up right like why did you sell your soul to the rock and he did not really answer that question. That is the thing the one thing and I talked about in last week's part two that's the one thing I feel like has been missing is the explanation from elimination chamber from both performers.
11:55 And it's yeah and it's saying like I'm gonna take this belt and go home like is that what the rock said to do like you're gonna take this belt and like that's not really what he says when you selling Cody I want you to be my champion. Well I've seen us taking that spot doesn't he expect seen it to be his champion if you just take the belt and go off into the sunset then. Are you really the champion of that like it's just we need a little bit more I guess clarity on the situation before we get to WrestleMania and I'm hoping that it's not I'm hoping clarity doesn't come at backlash I want clarity by WrestleMania or by the end of WrestleMania.
12:37 Like I said there's a raw this Monday obviously many happens Minnesota in the following week on the 14th is the final go home edition of raw and we'll see we'll see how they they elevate this feud going forward but does have people talking there's a lot of buzz there are some. There are some steps to the story that are missing and if they can kind of tie that off with the bow these next two weeks I think we have a very very exciting match heading into WrestleMania 41. Something that I thought had a great moment on raw was the furthering of the Gunther versus J.U. So match for WrestleMania 41 for the World Heavyweight Championship Gunther defeats Jimmy Uso on raw in a competitive match until Gunther took over and started beating down and toying with Jimmy coming out of the commercial break Gunther handcuffs J.U.
13:21 So to the rope with tie wraps while he laid out and bloody Jimmy Uso which was a really good segment and an elevated this feud from kind of being stagnant to really intensifying it and hopefully this helps. J.U. So break out of this confidence funk that he's been going through right now and helps bring some intensity to this feud from his side heading into the final couple of weeks before WrestleMania 41. It was really well done segment and the image of Gunther with Jimmy's blood all over him was well done and a memorable moment heading into WrestleMania 41. It reminded me without the kiss Captain obvious it reminded me of the Randy Orton triple H build with Stephanie at WrestleMania 25.
14:03 They definitely took a couple of pages out of there but Gunther did not kiss Jimmy Uso he just beat the living shit out of him. Or when did Jericho punch Shawn Michaels life? That was not a WrestleMania build I believe I believe that was a build for like a summer slam match or like something in the fall like the no mercy ladder match. Yeah but it's one of the things where like when you involve somebody else's family in a situation now give it Jimmy's a wrestler so it's a little different than Stephanie or Mrs. Shawn Michaels. But it's a little different but yeah like just the brutality the blood like that's just that's Gunther on a different level than we've seen.
14:46 Uh nitpicking thing is that when Jimmy went to the floor before we saw the blood on him when he went to come up nobody had gloves on. And I was like that means his fake blood because otherwise they would have put the gloves on right away before they touched it plus not the mention Gunther licked the blood off his finger. I thought the red gloves on when they came when they brought Jimmy into the ring that then he had the gloves on but when they were actually on the apron on the floor checking on Jimmy before you saw him. His head come up before Gunther pulled them back into the ring. Nobody had gloves on was that was a hundred percent fake blood I mean it was so bright red so.
15:26 But I was just like the little nitpicker in me was like a high if you try to sell that's real blood throw them gloves on first guys we've seen it I mean you did it with Seth I mean with that's you with with Mac and Tyre and punk as soon as Mac and Tyre got busted up before they even checked to see if he was okay the gloves went on. So you know that's just different but yeah it was super violent super kind of gory and I love that stuff like blood for the right reason is good and when you're selling the fact that Gunther is so deplorable that he's going to make Jay watch as he just dissect his own twin brother. I don't know how how can you make that confidence any better for a guy when you're like my twin brother just got dissected by this guy like what can I do.
16:16 The only thing coming out of that was also the does this take Jimmy out of the US picture rest the US title picture WrestleMania because I don't know how you put Jimmy back on the show in the US title match three weeks later after he just got destroyed by Gunther. Yeah I actually removed Jimmy from our rumored stuff for the US title picture I think this keeps him out of WrestleMania I think the best you see Jimmy maybe like not necessarily interfere in the match but potentially celebrate if they go with J.U. So winning J makes Jimmy makes it appearance but it's not going to be as an in-ring performer at WrestleMania 41 at this point. Jimmy shows up to cancel out the Ludwig Kaiser run in I guess maybe maybe yeah who knows who knows maybe the Rikishi run in next match here it would be Tiffany Stratton defending the WWE women's championship against Charlotte Flair.
17:05 Tiffy cuts a solid promo on Charlotte to hype up their match on SmackDown following Charlotte's victory over Meechin highlighting that there is a ton of pressure on Charlotte not losing to a quote rookie at WrestleMania 41. It was a really good solid promo but this is kind of like it's the build is running a little flat here I want some up in these next two weeks Dr. Dre. I was happy to see Tiffy fight back on the microphone because as we talked about last week show when they did the backstage vignette where they were going back and forth it did not look great but the promo here on Friday SmackDown I thought was solid. And your thoughts here on the build for Tiffany Stratton versus Charlotte Flair.
17:48 Tiffy is good when it's kind of laid out for her like I still don't think she's comfortable being a baby face like her entire NXT runs been a heel even her main raw shot on the majority of it has been a heel. It's just that kind of by the fall you know Charlotte's a bigger heel and so people don't want to do for Charlotte Flair. I the only thing from Tiffany I want to see now is I got to see her get a little edgy or the ring I got to see her kind of get the upper hand on Charlotte because Charlotte is going to dominate the physical confrontations heading into WrestleMania. She's dominating the verbal Tiffany gets a little bit of payback this week just I just need to see Tiffany kind of bring out a maybe a little bit serious side a gritty side a little more depth to show that she's willing to fight for this championship and not just you know get run over because she's a rookie.
18:46 Eosky versus Bianca Belair for the women's world championship build continued forward this past Monday and on raw as EO versus Rio with Bianca's the special guest referee ends in a double disqualification after both Rio and EO both lay out Bianca inadvertently multiple times in the match. The now to hyped it up now that it's now EO versus Bianca WrestleMania 41 with no real path for real at WrestleMania 41 right now I am intrigued to see if and how they make this into a triple threat match with just two episodes of raw left before WrestleMania 41. This was the main event and close on raw this past Monday. Dr. Trey thoughts on the EOS guy versus Bianca Belair build with Rio Ripley in the background.
19:27 Yeah it's I still don't know how I feel about it because like I like the back and forth I like Bianca getting frustrated I thought the DQ thing was expected. Now Rhea's got a really kind of insert herself and make them both like ask to have her be included and I don't know how you get there yet. I don't know how you get there without a feeling forced as well like you kind of want this to feel like a natural thing and. I guess maybe because it's the old school wrestling fan we've been we've been watching this stuff for 30 40 years we've seen this kind of path laid out. I was just kind of for some little fresh and different but um yeah I there the three best women wrestlers on raw not late not named Liv Morgan so I guess I'm fine with it I just I just feel like there's something missing something is maybe because they're all baby faces they're all people that the fans cheer for it I don't know who to.
20:20 Route against like I like all of them so it's just kind of a weird kind of funky build to have three good guys or three good ladies fighting it out. Yeah it's a bit strange I think we've been talking about this the entire time. I don't know if I'm really enjoying it so far doctor try I don't think I'm invested in the Rhea chase for WrestleMania 41 because I feel like she's there. I was thinking about this the other at the close of raw I was like this reminds me of the John Cena chase for the Undertaker match at WrestleMania in a way. Do you get that vibe at all.
21:02 A little bit yeah it feels it feels re as desperate for no reason like you know it's like you just had the belt. You're going to get in a shot they're not going to forget about you like you know I get I guess I get her wanting to be on WrestleMania but then we've seen before like okay well you're not going to make this match. I'm just going to make an impact in another match where you can't deny me and it just it just feels forced and for most of this I felt like Rhea felt like the winy little kid in this whole thing too which is not her character is supposed to be which is so weird. I guess I don't care enough about any like I don't get the rivalry I like if this is just Bianca and Rhea yeah I'm good man like down I'm psyched up for because it's just who's the biggest who's the baddest let him go at it.
21:58 Adding you know Eo into the mix it just kind of makes it feel like out of sorts and clunky I guess. Yeah that's an interesting point that you make there because Rhea's come off very desperate and that and I get that it's WrestleMania 41 season but it just as you would put it does not fit her character well. I think her getting a win somehow is the way that it goes about and who knows maybe we'll see over the next two weeks Bianca has theoretically or at least in Rhea's mind maybe in Rhea's fans mind not necessarily in mind. Bianca costs Rhea the championship when she dropped to Eo after elimination chamber and obviously Bianca cost Rhea the match this past Monday on Raw maybe maybe you do a Rhea versus Bianca match where if Rhea wins she's in the WrestleMania 41 match doctor try.
22:53 And then if you're if you're Bianca why do you agree to that you already got your spot you know it's just it's just to put her in like I guess in a way they're doing it better than they did the Charlotte Becky Ronda one where all of us and Vince just put Charlotte into the match for no reason. At least they're trying to give Rhea away in that is believable but if you're Bianca like why am I rest look sets not wrestling a match between elimination chamber WrestleMania Roman's not wrestling punks. Why do I need to wrestle between now and WrestleMania if my spots already secure you know at this point like I won the chamber I've already got my spot secure I don't need to put myself in harm's way that's how I would treat for me I think.
23:40 If you reveal like the week before that Bianca's actually the heel in all of this and then everybody's gonna want to hear going to ask it by either Rhea or Eo then I think we're more invested but right now it's just kind of like it's it's three horses racing for the finish line and you just want to see a good race but you just don't care who wins. Moving on here Kevin Owens versus Randy Orton, KO cost Orton a match against McIntyre on Smackdown KO narrowly avoid being punted by Kevin Owens. They are quasi hyping up the punt/return to the punt which has me wondering if Sammy makes return and maybe sacrifices himself to be punted by Orton or if Orton and Sammy gang up to punt Owens to put him on the shelf for a little bit.
24:28 Something is definitely going down with the punt for sure because Orton did hyping up post Smackdown as it's the punt kick versus the pile driver and it was also revealed that this match will be on night one of Russ Manie 41-2. Thoughts and takeaways on the Kevin Owens Randy Orton build for Russ Manie 41 so far Dr. Try. I'm enjoying it. It is kind of funny that it's the punt which is not his finisher versus the pile driver which is not his finisher but that's where we're going because that's the move that can injure people. So not the actual finishing moves of the stunner versus the RKO. It's the punt versus the pile driver but once again it's Kevin and Randy these guys you could have them go out there and argue over who has the best link.
25:09 Vest LaZanya or Chicken Parm and I'm going to be invested in the storyline because these are two of my favorite performers so like right now night one is must see for me regardless of the rest of the card. Yeah speaking of night one Roman Reigns versus Seth Freakin Rollins versus CM Punk. They have the contract signing segment on Smackdown which reveals that they will be main eventing night one of Russ Manie 41. It was an interesting segment as Seth Rollins was pissed off that punk is getting that spot. Heyman and Reigns seem to think that that was the favor owed to him but it isn't and CM Punk's mine. And then there's these little Easter eggs like are people noticing Paul Heyman telling punk not to acknowledge Roman Reigns.
25:49 Roman Reigns asking punk to acknowledge him and you see Paul Heyman shake his head and just mouth the words don't something is inner is definitely going on there and it's an interesting between CM Punk and Paul Heyman punk keeps winking and Heyman Heyman very happy and excited that punk to the main event of Russ Mania we've never seen this dynamic before with anyone and Roman Reigns since Paul Heyman has been the wise man where the wise man equally love someone as much as he loves Roman Reigns. This has been fun and now CM Punk and say that he is a main eventer of WrestleMania doctor try thoughts and takeaways on this triple threat match that will be main eventing WrestleMania night one. Savoy's argue that all they went punk says he's never made event in WrestleMania because I did me I always go like you wrestled the undertaker at WrestleMania.
26:38 That wasn't that the close the show I was in the building did not close the show. But there's been like if you go back and look at those say oh there was four main events that night but only one can close the show so. That's what I've always thought was the actual like that's the main event of WrestleMania. Yeah, whatever was the show to be was the main event but like WWE was saying you know back when taker was in closing the show they was still calling a main event match. So yeah I also I love the little I love the kiss like seeing Heyman kiss him a bit you go back to the cage match on raw and Heyman is the one in the ring checking on punk. So there is a crazy little dynamic going on which we really have a scene that you said we haven't seen it all we saw it a little bit with when Lesnar came back.
27:25 The whole is is Heyman beside or or Roman side but never just level. Yeah, you know not to this degree where it's open it's it's you know Heyman is not denying like Heyman literally is checking on punk at all time. So and this is to me like I love this dynamic because on paper once again it's three baby faces but sets kind of a heel. Roman's attitude in the ring at the contest I was very much old school tribal chief like it's still kind of a heel persona and the whole thing is everybody's supposed to hate punk because he's the snake or the cancer.
28:05 So it's all three or baby faces but all three have heel tendency so whichever dynamic they play out during the match people eat up so like to me like I'm more excited about night one. Then I have night two right now on paper. Let's look to the rumored matches Drew McIntyre versus Damien Priest still not confirmed I keep saying each week the last two episodes from like I expect by the next time we come here. This match is official still feel that way but it's not official yet. Damien Priest jokes the I was McIntyre onto a car on Smackdown. McIntyre gets a glass in his eye and they used real glass in that segment as see I'm pucke was walking by wink wink nudge nudge.
28:50 Dr. Trey I can't believe this is not the new and confirmed pile. All right I got to ask you this and then before we get into this match we criticize AW when they take shots at WWE they're now free shots fired in AW the last few weeks between the I work with children. Oh my god it's real glass and then oh my god and then you stole money from a billionaire's kit. So I need to criticize w a little bit about taking the shots when we knock AW for this this is this is going to sound very day w e homerish but I do have I thought about this W we shots and Easter eggs are not so subtle and you have to know you have to be pay pay and attention.
29:38 Right it's w we shot or AW shots the w we was so direct where it was and so frequent that it was like lost its its zest like I thought the the line from Cena was really well done and thoughtful and made a ton of sense to help build their feud. I think the things that they've done has helped build their feuds and their matches while in when AW does it it it doesn't build anything other than just show the disdain and anger and hatred that that company has for WWE and that their owner and Tony Khan has for WWE does that does that makes sense because of AW was doing shots that like okay that makes that's funny there's some zest behind it and adds fuel to the storyline.
30:30 So did we like we I can't remember this has been it's been six years did we like when Cody smash the throne. I didn't like it at the time because I they hadn't done anything. Okay because that's because it basically I saw the remember the edge Daniel Bryan Ricky starts promo. And people say that like Ricky starts got buried by by Adam Copeland. So I guess WWE is is a little better at inserting those things like you said to kind of further storylines where when AW takes a shot it's usually an interview like with a podcast or reporter or it's just so overtly blatant that it's just kind of like guys you're just doing it for the like they're doing it for shock value instead of furthering their own accord.
31:34 Yes I guess is is that we're at so like like I didn't I like I love like when he hit the glass I was I was I literally was like he's gonna raise me say something about real glass and sure enough he would. Oh I got this real glass is in my eye and I was like like you knew it was coming he legitimately got glass in his eye that reportedly yeah well I mean and then I you see him on with the patch on social media as well so the I patch but it's just one of the things where it's like I guess. Like I'm not a huge fan of it but I do like that they do it better because at least when they do it when WWE does it sorry pronouns pal when WWE does it it is to further a storyline of something in their company and not just a direct shot at the competition where when AW does it it does feel like they're doing it for shock value or clickbait or.
32:29 Hey look at me look at me look at me yeah like I work with children when punk said it I was watching live and I was like what what did he just say. Like he caught me off guard like it was like okay that's funny it's funny and it also further the Roman reign Seth wrong stuff it's up that he's still saying. The line again from John Cena keep going back to I thought was really well done the Drew McAter punk stuff like him walk and buy it's it's too full there right one he feud with Drew McAter in the few of the year last year. And two it's like it's a it's a car it's class like that's to me was funny so I think WWE does it tastefully better than AW. Okay but yeah like and I mean really I'm surprised I'm surprised they did announce this match on X like I mean I know you put a guy through a windshield like all right let's just go and put it out there because it's got to be a WrestleMania match it'll probably be on night two to kind of bounce stuff out a little bit.
33:27 Because I kind of feel like Jay and Gunther will be on night one also so you kind of need some bigger matches on night to kind of bounce the card out but at this point got you put a man through a windshield go ahead and put out there. By the way punk should have set a line like when when when when Drew said dear God that's real glass if punk said yeah I know better than that something as the walk away line as he's walking past within great too. So yeah I'm surprised that this is not been a beneficial yet but do we expect it to be made official on Friday Smackdown now doctor try. I mean I would hope so yeah it's crazy this one's like shocking at this at this point what's left is Drew gonna throw pre I was Drew go through a freeze throw barbershop window or something like I don't know what else is left.
34:16 I don't know it's been good they've done a good job the US title picture I have no clue where this is going so we've this is in the rumored match category we've had Solace to go versus Jake Vatu we have LA night defending against Jacob Vatu or Braun Strowman for the US championship we've had LA night defending against Jacob Vatu Braun Strowman and Solace to go in a fatal four way match. It is all over the place but we expect something to come out of this at WrestleMania 41 I'm right now leaning towards another fatal four way of LA night versus Jacob Vatu versus Braun Strowman versus Solace to go for the US title. Fat 2 interferes in LA night versus Braun Strowman title match on Smackdown laying out both men. Fat 2 is super over with the crowd he has the interaction backstage with Tomatanga and Solace Akowa where they were questioning why did he go out there and do it without any support and backup.
35:05 Fat 2 responds back well you did it the week prior that cost me the match and you didn't let me know. Fat 2 is he's a star man and the crowd is eating them up thoughts on where the US title picture is right now heading in the WrestleMania 41 doctor try. Yeah it's it's all over the place. I don't know why you I'm kind of leaning this might not even make the WrestleMania car that this might end up on Smackdown unless they have something big plan in this match for that like star making moment for Jacob this may end up on Smackdown. Because I outside of Jacob does anybody really care about the other three guys right now like is LA night still super over like I don't I feel like his star is diminished quite a bit since where we were at last year.
35:58 So I and maybe like and once again is is shinsuke completely out of picture or is he still on the roster like I don't know what his situation is like it's it's a very muddled picture for the US title which makes me feel like if if nobody's over then the nothing's over so then that match ends up on Smackdown. I don't think this ends up on Smackdown. I don't think they're going to put fought to on Smackdown you really think so. I don't I don't think so but like if unless he's going over and getting the title like if you're not if you're putting the title on fought to yeah put on WrestleMania because he's going to be a WrestleMania man of enter within the next two to three years.
36:45 If he's not going over then you put on Smackdown so you can still kind of hide fought to from that crowd at that point is that does that make sense like you want I just I can't see fought to going on on Smackdown and many right now. But I did I did I would be a missed opportunity for them. You need people to tune into an LA night till. That's why that's why mask is LA night still as over yes he was. Yes couple couple weeks ago in Barcelona. I mean the crowd would absolutely insane form. Okay so that's the case. Yeah put it on you know once again it comes down to how many matches are you going to have on the show like if it's 12 it's close to the cut line.
37:27 If it's 14 it's safe. But yeah like at this point you got to have Jacob go over unless you're in some kind of weird swir thing where solo and Tom a turn on Jacob I think that's coming. And in and Tom a Tonga Tonga Tonga Tonga Tonga low returns Hickaleo and then that forces Jacob out to make him the baby face out of this. Yeah I think they're ready to strap the rocket chip on thought to I think a year from now we're talking about fought to in a in a main event level match at WrestleMania 41 so what are you what are you leaning towards are you leaning towards a fatal four way.
38:07 Yeah leaning towards a four way by the way is a thought to your early pick to win the rumble next year. Yeah I guess so. I think a guy like fought to is more of like a money the bank briefcase guy right now but I actually think even like LA night solo those are the type of guys I would be looking at at for for something like that more than a rumble match right now like I could see punk winning the rumble next year. Yeah but I mean but no way had J.O. so I'm not that that's yeah I do think it's a four way I think it's droman night solo and Jacob. Next year intercontinental championship rumored match bra and breaker Finn Baller dominant Cereo Penta for the I.C. title.
38:51 Finn and Dom Defeat Braun and Penta and a tag match on raw after Braun accidentally spears Penta thanks to Dom giving Finn's a heads up and pushing Penta in the way to get the spear. Penta gets pin for the first time in WWE. Braun and Penta get into an argument backstage on raw then also later the night Finsett he was going to talk with Adam Pierce about get an I.C. title shot and Liv stood the pot saying that Dom serves a shot to and plan to talk with Pierce after Finn was done about getting Dom and I.C. title shot as well. This is another one it isn't an a Damien Drew category doctor trade but I feel like this match becomes official very soon as well. Yeah I think this one might be a straight out for way and they might put the U.S. title in a ladder match and but then again I can also go to burst because Penta Finn and Dom and Braun and a ladder match would be fun too.
39:38 Like one of these two is going to be a straight up for way one of the two will be a gimmick ladder match. I just don't know which one which yet I agree I could see more the U.S. title being maybe a ladder match versus that one. Or maybe this match could be a ladder match the street profits defend the WWE tag team chip against the motorcycling machine guns versus DIY versus pretty deadly. I have I'm starting to feel like low scars is not going to be involved in this one doctor try I feel like it's more likely to be fatal four way now. So I've actually removed low scars is from this match be interesting if you feel the same way street profits defeat pretty deadly in a title match on smack down in their home country.
40:20 Motorcycling machine guns claims they are next in line in an exclusive segment that aired on X following smack down thoughts here where the WWE tag team championship is going for WrestleMania 41. I think this might be down to a triple threat I mean when you when you have pretty deadly lose in their home country like that's kind of their WrestleMania match in a lot of ways like that crowd was super hot for them. This might to be these profits guns and DIY because I mean you can't keep I mean once again you don't you have one you have two triple threat is trying to bounce the card out because you don't want too many the same style things going on.
41:00 So maybe this one is just becomes a triple threat with the top three teams because low scars and pretty deadly of kind of eliminate themselves in the last couple of weeks. Jade car girl versus Naomi Naomi's had had a very cool segment to explain herself on smack down I thought that was really well done great character arc and development there for Naomi Naomi takes out beef having me Chen who were signing with Jade before me Chen's match against Charlotte Flair. Also did we see some foreshadowing between Jaden Charlotte as they went either for future match. Jade car goal versus Naomi doctor try I feel like this is another one that is close to being made official soon as well.
41:41 Yeah I think it'll be official and did Naomi steal some clothing from the Owen Hart wardrobe line like all the warning stuff like I had Owen Hart flashbacks. If she says enough is enough in time it's time for a change and I'm all for it. Yeah I mean enough enough is of J car goal so but yeah I mean Charlotte Jade is one of those matches that people talk about when you look at like size, strength, speed, agility, like lot of similarities there as well so that could be some foreshadowing because Charlotte basically said like she's the queen of the smack down division. So if she comes out on top you're going to need a challenger for Charlotte who better that point would be even Jade.
42:22 Ray Mr. Davis Chad Gable another rumored match here Gable wasn't clear for this past weeks raw but El Grande Americana will be in the ring this Monday on raw and Gables hotel hometown of Minneapolis Minnesota. Not much more to write home on this one doctor are we feeling confident not confident that this is going to make the rest of any 41 card. It's going to be Gable against Mysterio or American Mavers of the LWL like it's going to be some combination of those guys like I hate the creepers getting left off the show because they're young and super talented I also hate that you know drag and Lee you know and you know whoever else for the LWL you want to throw in that mix will be left off as well but on paper Gable and Mysterio is another match that could steal the show.
43:11 So whichever combination they go with on that I think it's fine. Yeah every time I hear all Grande Americana I just want to go to Starbucks and get a prep of Gina live more going to recall Rodriguez defending W. Women's Tag Team Champions against the library of a curian valkirian Bailey is a match that we discussed here on last week show. Live in Raquel matching in a backstage segment that they need to do something about Bailey and Lyra so it looks like this potential match is gaining some momentum Lyra does challenge Bailey to a women's inner continental championship match on this week's raw. Maxine DePree had a backstage segment where she was talking Anna Pearson said her and Natalia been discussing some tag team ideas so maybe they could be added to some sort of rest of any 41 matches well.
43:53 What are thoughts here confident not confident that this is landing on rest of any 41. Live Raquel is Bailey and Lyra I think it's going to land on WrestleMania. I mean you got to have Bailey on the show you got to have live on the show you want to have your women's inner continental title on the show somehow so in a tag match for the women's tag belts make sense. The war Raiders defending the World Tag Team Champions against the new day the new day defeated the returning no catch repub new catch republic on raw for them. For them earning a shot at the World Tag Team Champion war Raiders who come out post match to confront the new day I wonder if this match lands on the WrestleMania 41 card or on a raw heading into WrestleMania 41 match instead sidebar I don't like seeing them returning new catch republic losing in their home country in the first match back nonetheless war Raiders new day confident not confident that this lands on WrestleMania 41 doctor try.
44:46 Once again it kind of comes down to how we imagine you putting on maybe if you're at that 14 mark it probably lands on many because look the new day always does great stuff on WrestleMania like they're always super entertaining so. And you want to showcase the war Raiders more so like increase that tie team division visibility so if you're doing 14 matches I think it lands on maybe if not the raw before sidebar as well glad to see them back to the other but wasn't Pete done just like a douchebag like two weeks ago and since Tyler Bay comes back like he's we're close like him again now like it was just weird that they threw it back together like we need a challenger.
45:30 They'll get cheered in London because they're British. I agree with you and there was some sort of strange interaction between Pete Dunn and Tyler Bay during the match I think Tyler Bay was like trying to get a high five and Pete Dunn kind of dismissed him so I don't know I'm with you on that because I'm very critical in AW does it and I don't like seeing when WWE does it so that was something that was missing. Was that their normal things on by the way yes it was. I guess I never noticed the whole I guess I never noticed the whole chanting of new catcher public and then actually hearing their voices in it.
46:10 Yeah it's like I can't even do in that now. Okay. And then the last room and match here I have which takes us to including everything that we've covered here 16 matches and Dr. Shren I talked about last week show we feel like the likelihood is that there's going to be seven and seven so 14 total so maybe two of the matches we've discussed here land on a raw or Smackdown heading to media and I could see this match landing on the Smackdown heading to Mania Chelsea green defending the women's United States championship against Selena Vega. There is some traction here again I'm not sure if it will land on WrestleMania 41 or not but they have been feuding for some time and Chelsea is super over and our secret harvest is super over and I think the crowd wants to see them confident not confident this lands on WrestleMania 41 Dr. Trey.
46:58 I think this is a Smackdown match I think it's the Smackdown but I mean Chelsea super over the secret service is super over if you get Malachi Black returning and then aligning with Zelina and dear God if they gave Zelina a little bit of Julia Hart gimmick and teach Zelina how spit missed or whatever that be cool. But right now I think it's building to eventually be fat me too and Zelina gets the three of them also so it could be the six a six woman tag match on Smackdown and then save the title match for backlash I could see that I could see that's a good point as well. So there you go WrestleMania 41 card roundup keeping with the WrestleMania news and notes from WrestleMania heading into WrestleMania 41 weekend WWE did announce that they will be inducting Stone Cold Steve Austin versus Brett the Hitman Hart from WrestleMania 13 into the WWE Hall of Fame as an immortal moment.
47:54 That's the first of its kind Dr. Trey a new category that they're doing I like it however is this the right first match/moment to go into the WWE Hall of Fame. Yes because you can get both guys to make an appearance at me at the Hall of Fame ceremony. I like that UFC does this so I think UFC does fights I think WWE is doing the right way of says hey it's not we're not doing best matches we're doing moments and that's an iconic moment because that's the double turn that sent both guys even to a higher level of icons status in WWE.
48:34 I mean you know Stone Cold with the blood passing out in the sharpshooter you know that made Brett a heel Stone Cold a baby face and sent them on their paths so I mean it's a great moment to feature I mean triple ages are you going in the Hall of Fame so you don't really want to do anything with you know him or or Sean Takeer like you want to say that stuff a lot of the other matches from maybe his past guys have passed on like savages steamboat you might get steamboat but you're not going to get savage. See this is one that see that's the only match I would say I would put in there I would put savage steamboat and maybe takeer HBK from WrestleMania 25 ahead of that one.
49:16 Yeah if you're doing matches yes but if you're doing WrestleMania moments that are iconic there's not much more than Austin bleeding out bleeding and passing out from the sharpshooter like that's you know we reference when Becky Lynch had her nose broken that was the reference was right back to Austin Brett Hart so like I'm like once again you can get both guys there you can't get you know savage unfortunately is passed away so you can get steamboat but steamboat not a great talker at least with Austin and Hart those guys can still talk they can talk about that moment they can talk about what it did and it gets Stone Cold and Brett Hart to WrestleMania weekend.
49:59 And then another announcement here we talked about this on last week's podcast like there is no official announcement what's going on with the Hall of Fame show so the Hall of Fame will be airing live on peacock YouTube X and tick tock at 10 p.m. Pacific so I guess I will not be watching live and it'll be 1 a.m. in the east on Saturday morning dot tree which I'm fine with I'll go to bed after Smackdown on WrestleMania weekend. Yeah and then did it with that they named the venue and I'm like I'd never heard of the venue. It's like the hotel where I think the undertaker one dead man show I think stand on NXT on the CW network is going to be airing on Tuesday and then like the roast of WrestleMania will be there soon.
50:41 Are you a little surprised with them being in Vegas they're not using that UFC venue for at least that place dunk I hated that for wrestling that the show back in June I didn't I did not like that where it was it was not a good look very boring. Yeah I mean but then it's like you're using a hotel like is there going to be a like is somebody going to get like a bell hop service. Hey collision was just in a hotel as well back in Vegas so and that was like a theater. You're you're in Connecticut you have the Mohican sun it's a casino and hotel I guess I mean there are there are good venues for some. So that is a legit arena there for sure I mean that that places a compound so nonetheless I will not be watching the whole thing live one aim on the East Coast Saturday morning so I guess I'll check it out Saturday morning before standing deliver airs.
51:29 I think that is one PM on the East I think they're airing on on Saturday afternoon. Keep it up with the way news here doctor trade Johnson interview with people magazine said today excuse me on Tuesday that more unpredictability is on the way in regards to he and his career or his wrestling persona I should say. I've been really enjoying the unpredictability of WWE so far whether PJ so winning the Royal Rumble Johnson attorney heal is unpredictability ultimately a good thing for professional wrestling. Yes if if done in the right amount you don't want it to get to WCW 2001 where there's doing unpredictable stuff for the sake of unpredictability.
52:21 If it's in the right structure it's fantastic is we don't want to know all the answers but like you know like most things we kind of want to have a good gauge but we want to be surprised. As long as we're getting pleasantly surprised and not just you know shock and odd to death because I think that's one of the things you know we talk about with AEW I used to talk about with WC other than it was like you still like stability in your wrestling you like to know who the good guys are who the bad guys are but we like those surprises in those swarves when they're measured correctly. And then the last thing I want to bring up here on this week's edition the podcast I try would be remiss if I did not talk about this AW dynasty is this Sunday on paper review it'll be coming to us from Philadelphia Pennsylvania.
53:14 We don't break these down as much as we used to but the AW has had pretty solid programming as of late a lot of interesting matches on this one like Kenny Omega taken on ricochets people Mike Bailey moxley versus swarves Strickland time of Tony storm versus mega Bane the death riders Claudio Pock and Wheeler Udo be taken on rated FDR of Copa Cash Wheeler and Dax Hardwood Chris Jericho taken on Bandito in a title versus mass match for the R.O.H. World Championship. Dan Garcia taken on Adam Cole in a match for the AW TNT championship where there's no time limit no outside interference permitted and so many more other matches will you be tuning in to AW dynasty are you excited for the card have you been impressed with the build and AW program and as of late.
53:59 I think it's been much more solid show the last few weeks the stuff I've been able to tune in a watch I luckily for me I have the max streaming service I can jump on and watch it you know at my convenience I don't know I gotta see I don't know if the paper view is on max. If it is I know it's not yet which is a bummer so I won't be catching it live because otherwise I have to finagle some chicader because god knows I don't want to spend 50%. Any wrestling show right now. But no the program is really good I mean the Jericho Bandito stuff's been good the Adam like Daniel Garcia Adam Cole's been good I'm still not a hundred percent soul on Mike Bailey Ricochet and Kenny Omega because like on paper dream match like athleticism personified.
54:49 I like the tone anything Tony Stormer lead is going to be fantastic to me you know and then is we saw some teasing of splintering of rated FTR after the after the moxley Copeland match so does that actually splinter or does they do they stay together does that kind of NBA at some point the death writer thing either be to take it up a notch or die off. So where we at with that so that the program is been much better much more consistent and like I'm still intrigued by the MJF hurt. Heart business stuff like there's a lot of you know entertaining stuff which is what I've been wanting give me some story give me some reason to care about your characters other than just hey this guy can do a thousand and four moves by the way that was a Chris Jericho laid that out.
55:39 Twenty five years ago this week and serene deep you know it is also claimed to fam over a thousand four moves 25 years ago thank you doctor try for making me feel old I really really really appreciate that I actually remember watching that life where they cut the commercial break and Jericho is reading off of the printed paper where you at the I'm the edges you used to have to peel it off with the holes you don't have to do that anymore folks. I'm not a lot of your yes arm you kept doing arm bar if anybody reads any of Jericho's books there I think that was in a lion's tail recover that whole segment and it was really well done I I loved Jericho's books when he writes them.
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