Welcome To The Wrestling BBQ, AEW! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #751 – 7/4/24
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door!"
- -- Is this the best we have ever seen from Paul Heyman?
- -- We preview & predict "WWE Money In The Bank!"
- -- And we preview & predict...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW x NJPW Forbidden Door!"
- -- Is this the best we have ever seen from Paul Heyman?
- -- We preview & predict "WWE Money In The Bank!"
- -- And we preview & predict "NXT Heatwave!"
0:00 It's still welcome. Everybody. Welcome to this week's edition as Still Real does show episode number seven and fifty one for July fourth, twenty twenty four. This is your aw and New Japan Forbid Indoor Recap and Review and Wily Money to Bank and nx WA Preview and Predictions edition of s RT You I am one after the show, I am Joe pack joined every single week my host, going only, Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. Happy fourth of July, my friend, Happy fourth of July, my friend. I hope, uh, you know, being a new dad, I hope all your fingers stay intact. I hope that for everybody. That's my wish for everybody this Happy fourth is celebrate freedom Jesus. I guess if that's your thing, and just make sure all your fingers stay in tagged. I literally came across the store yesterday that said we were closing early on the fourth to allow our employees to time with their families and to worship. And I didn't know what people worship on the fourth of July, so I'm a little confused by that sign I saw in a store America. Huh, that's what we worship. My initials are JP, not JPP. So so far so good, fingers are intact, hopefully you know that's still you know, not too soon that joke.
1:33 That's a deep cut joke. You really have to be a fan of the NFL to get the JPP reference there. Well, see if anybody got it. I know there's a lot of wrestling fans, a lot of folks overseas that enjoy European football. I highly doubt there's a percentage of this podcast that was like, what the hell is he talking about? Yeah? What what does he mean there? So nonetheless, happy fourth of July for those here in America. We are recording this the morning of July fourth, before we kick off all of our fest festivities. Go out to barbecues. No firework show for me, because I got a little one now. I don't want to lose his hearing. I would rather that hip hop music does that. Once he starts listening to, you know, is beat by dre headphones that he'll get I don't know, like two three years old, because that's what kids are doing nowadays. So lots of wrestling to DISCUSSI actually something I did not share with Doctor Trey pre show. I know, I promoted on last week's podcast that we were going to look at our first half of the year awards. This is such a fully loaded show that I want to give it ample time. So we're actually going to do that in two weeks, which will take us to July eighteenth. Right now, there's just so many pay per views and p l's going on with Forbidden Door and running the Bank heat Wave that we're going to focus on that this week and of course next week, and then in two weeks time again we'll look at the first half of the year for twenty twenty four, which is mind boggling to think, and our typical awards that we hand out the leading candidates right now, So a little programming note on this week's edition of the podcast, So let's get
3:05 right into it. Doctor Trey aw Knew Japan for bid into our twenty twenty four recap and review. This came to us this past Sunday from the UBS Arena in Long Island, New York. The first match on the pre show was Kyle Fret Fletcher defeating Sirpentco. I'm not sure what to say about this one. It was a three minute match. I really liked the upside of Kyle Fletcher and liked he got a spotlight during all of the will Osprey stuff over the weekend and on Dynamite this past Wednesday, we were talking off air about Kyle Fletcher oddly enough, and he got the victory over Sir Pettico in three minutes. Yeah, and you had to kind of be a really hardcore aw fan to realize he was no longer the Ring of Honor Telvision Champion as well, like that, Oh, I had no idea until they said it.
3:46 Yeah, and I was like, oh, that's right, that he lost it, like on a non televised event. I believe he lost it at CMLL, then I believe two nights before Yeah, and that totally threw me off and I'm like, wait, didn't he have a belt or something? And then as I had to read it, I'm like, oh, he lost it and they didn't really even talk about it. So maybe that's why he's kind of getting the rub now because he doesn't have it hanging over. But yeah, for a three minute match. Like, I'm a big fan of Kyle Fletcher. I think he's got a lot of potential. Sir Pensico is just that, you know, I feel bad for the guy. I don't think he's want to match in like two years, and his tag team partner became a butler for crying out loud, So not a whole lot for him to do right now, So not a great match. It's just kind of way to showcase Kyle Fletcher considering the four day period they had planned for him, so a good way for him to start for the show.
4:36 At least. Next match year is King's of the Black Throne defeating Tomo heir Is She and Kyle O'Riley, Roger Strong and Gabe Kid and Private Party in a four way tag team match. We did not predict this one. We also did not predict Kyle Fletcher and Serpentaco. My notes from this one is, dear professional wrestling companies, please do something with your tag team divisions. Also, I feel like we are on the ver of Gabe Kid being a breakout star, a big star in professional wrestling. Everything about him screams top level talent to me. He is an exciting young talent that I really have enjoyed watching on AW television last couple of weeks. I've read about him, seen his stuff from New Japan. I'm a fan of his Doctor Trey.
5:16 Your thoughts on the four way tag team match, Yeah, just like when you look at it, you're going, man, these these guys, you know, all these tag teams can kind of go, and they're on the pre show in a four way, which means they basically had nothing for anybody to do, so let's throw them all on a match. You know, House of Black. Those guys are always fantastic. I like Gabe Kid because at first, when I heard his name, I thought Axiom had affected somehow and added three letters to a kid to make him gave kid. But no, this guy's a little a little bit bigger and has a little more potential than a kids. So yeah, it's just kind of a fun little throwaway match for AW, which just makes me also go, crap, this is gonna be a five hour pay per view, isn't it. So the next match here, well, Willow Nightingale and Tom Nakano defeat Chris stat Lander, Momo Wanton Abby. We both had Willow and Nakano and this one Willow and stant Lander's feud has been a really bright spot, really big bride spot in the AW women's division and a great blueprint for how a feud and build to a match should go. They had their match on Wednesday's Dynamite. Two things from that one. If you have not gone out of your go out of your way. If you've not seen yet, Willow Nightingale's promo heading into that match was to me amazing. I loved it. It was Dusty Rhodes type vibes for me, a working man, son of a plumber type vibes to it. I love that promo, Go out of your way and again see it. The match itself with Chris stat Lander and the Women's Owen Heart Cup tournament was a little bit lacklustered, a little bit short on time, but
6:50 I've really enjoyed this feud doctor Tray between Willow and christat Landler. Yeah, I've enjoyed the feud as well. I actually kind of liked this match too, because it's like, these two women have a few going on, and there's two other random Japanese superstars thrown into the matches. You're kind of like, I almost felt bad for the two other women because they really had no bill or storyline in this match, But the tag matches that wasn't bad. The dynam of the promo and dynam I was really well done. The matches of Your Right Well, I thought was lackluster. But and I really hate Willow's not a small girl. And I really hate when they have bigger babyfaces win with a roll up because it doesn't really settle anything. So obviously to me, that means the few is gonna continue. This is a way for Willow to move on in the tournament. But yeah, for a match you've been kind of building into, building up too to have the baby face win with a roll up and she's as big as or if not bigger than her opponent. I really hate those things. But for this pay re view, a really fun women's tag match that basically was just like, we're gonna put we need two Japanese people in this matches because it's aw New Japan for Bendorra.
7:57 We'll go with Tom and Watanabe and we'll put them there with christ and Willow and just let them go at it. So there you're next match here is Mariah May defeating Soriah in a Women's Own Hard Cup tournament first round match. I had Mariah May dout tradet soria I think Maria May is my favorite to win the Women's Own Heart Cup tournament, as an all in match with timeless Stony Storm would be compelling. There is also obviously a strong case that Willow Nightingale, following her win with Chris stat Lander, would be a very compelling match against timeless Toney Storm at all in. Soria's run in AW has been pretty anti climatic for an all time great. And yeah, she takes a loss here in a match in less than ten minutes. I appreciate to Miriam a doctor Trey. Yeah, and that's kind of why, like I had picked a right because I was like, you know, this is one of the legends of women's wrestling in a way, I mean, not Mount Rushmore legend, but you know, people know Paige slash Soria. It just is. It's unfortunately, like you look at you go may she the outcast.
8:54 Had a good little run. She's a former AW Women's Champions, she just didn't have a long run with it. But for the last year she's just been kind of stuck in the middle, which kind of what happens to a lot of these WWE people. When they come over, they get a nice little push and then they're just in the middle for the rest of their time there, So unfortunate Sarriah for Sobria, but good for Mariah May because now she has that on a resume that she beats Sria, which is a resume builder, which gives her credibility heading in if that's the route they go with heading into all In, if they do Perotoni Storm, she has that on the resume. Next match, here's a Lucha Bros. And Mystico defeating Los Ignorables de Hippon. We had both had Luca Brothers in Mystico. I would have liked to have seen lij get the victory in this one, but it would have been a weird look. After Jericho attacked Mystico during a CMLL show on the Friday before four been in Door to help promote an assumed future match. I would have liked to see some carry over there on Wednesday's Dynamite as well, but obviously Jericho's involved and had a really good angle with Joe Hook and Shabbata on Wednesdays Dynamite Dot. Share your thoughts on this one as a Lucha Brothers and Mystico got the victory. Yeah, I mean this is kind of our rule for this show was went in doubt picked the non New Japan people to win the match. I like you thought, Eli JH, you're gonna win here, because it would have made sense because if you have Mystico selling an injury, then it's almost a three on two handicap match in a sense if one guy's not one hundred percent. But they didn't go that route, So fun Lucas style six man tag. I thought it was pretty
10:30 entertaining for matches that I typically don't like, so I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good solid six man tag for what's placeholder spot on the card. And then finally the main card here as MJF opened up to the show by defeating Hetch and Sara. We both had MJF. These are notes that I wrote pre Dynamite here, so this is pretty interesting. This is why I want to read them, and then we'll talk a little bit about what happened at Dynamite as well once we put this match to rest. So Hetch and Sarah to me, has been the most impressive CML wrestler I've seen on aw television, and it shows that they put him in this match. I really want to see MJF ramp up heading into aw all in and that is what I expect will happen. MJF is just kind of waiting in water right now. Again, these were notes that I wrote pre Dynamite. We'll get to that in just a second. But Doctor Trey MGFF defeating Hetchet Sarow, Yeah, I'm with you. Like Hetchees Sarah is about the only person who actually from CMLL that I read that I can actually go, oh, that's Hetches Sarah, Like I actually know who that is. The rest of the roster for the most part, I'm like, ummm, his name is a DC villain or a Marvel villain. I can't remember. That's how I remember most of these guys. But I was like, going to MJF.
11:39 It feels like he came back. They had the blow off Adam Cole out of nowhere for no reason, and then he's been treading with water ever since. Uh. That was my note pre dynamite as well. But overall I thought it was a solid match because it's still it shows MJF, you know, still being a top guy, but also still allowed Hetching Saro some offense and a little bit of shine to keep him looking strong. If they decide to steal him from CTMLL or use him in a different way. So solid opener, but maybe not the match I would have had opened the show. So I kind of like matches have a little bit more importance than this one. This one still felt kind of like a throwaway match in a sense. So let's talk about what happened at Dynamite. You have the Danny Garcia will Osprey match for the AW International Championship. MJFF in the corner of Danny Garcia will Osprey gets the victory after Garcia refused to use the Dynamite diamond ring was distracted him blade one two three. MJFF gets in the ring, kicks him in the nuts, beats the crap out of them, and I guess in a way turns heel. It was I think almost like fifteen minutes overrun on Dynamite this past Wednesday. And I'll get this out of the way now as well. It was a very strong episode of AW Dynamite, a really enjoyable episode. Good little stretch here for AW creatively and end ring wise that I'm in joining and welcome to the party AW here on the short term, long time coming. We've been waiting very patiently. So I was very excited to see that MJF went back to MGF mode. I think it's very safe to
13:13 say that MGF is most successful when he is MGF twenty nineteen to mid twenty twenty three, the Babyface MJF just really wasn't clicking getting over getting the same kind of feel and the vibe was from us on the podcast that it could be a stone cold Steve Austin like type run for him. He never really captured in that because he kind of leaned into too much of what they were saying on the Internet's a little bit emo in a way there on the Babyface run and a little bit too corny, which was something I never thought I would say about MGF. So him really getting a good, strong emotion and beat down of Danny Garcia to close Dynamite a turn if you will, was really good getting into it with a crowd. It was a really really strong ending, And something that I was really excited about is eventually will Ospray came out to get the save. I guess if there's a one drawback there, it's like, where the hell was will Ospray that entire time? Like was he just like I don't know icing his feet, Like what was he doing that that he didn't get out there right away? So really really strong, fun in compelling, interesting segment to close down to my doctor Trainer. Was refreshing to see MGF go back to his roots. Yeah, my thing was the offspray line. I thought was really good. I just figured will Osprey got lost in the back. I had some of those back areas when they started curtaining things off and partitioning things off can get kind of confusing, and he's not. You know, it's probably his first time in that building, so maybe he got lost. He got back to the curtain, took a
14:45 left, we should take it a right, got lost and they had to make a big loop to get back out to make the same I'm excited for MJF as a heel. It just leads me questions because he just came back a couple like what six weeks ago, six weeks eight weeks ago, had the big blowoff with you know, Adam Cole, and then now they're kind of on the same ledger, so to speak. They're both heels now again. So MJF good when he has people around him. Does that mean he starts getting people around him as well. And then I also was like, is Danny Garcia a big enough character for him to turn heel on to really get people to care. So I'm a little worried to you because I think he'll still get baby face pops at times as this now full fledged heel again, So curious to see where it goes by mc scit because you're absolutely right, MGF is better as a heel than he is a babyface, and this is the best route because if you look at potential challenge or potential matchups after Garcia, well will Ospray's now a full fledged baby face and you have swerved Strickland and either of those matchups down the road are money making matchups. For MJF is just a question of is this a big enough babyface for him to turn on to really get the crowd to hate him. Yeah, no, it was. It'll be interesting to follow up Saturday's collision. He's got to open up the show. We'll see how that goes. But I feel like short term was really really strong and I'm happy to see MGF back in that
16:15 role. Next match here is the Elite defeating Scissa Ace the Acclaim in Hiroshi ton of Hashey and a trios match. We both have the Elite. The hype video heading into this match with him blurting out Kenny and make his face was hilarious and some of the funny stuff that this version of the New Elite has done. Okada is super over and despite what some people say online, I actually really like this version of him where he's showing his personality off a little more. Max Caster's rap before the match may have been his best one I've ever seen in aw And I wonder if the planets for both the Acclaim versus the Young Bucks and Ocada versus a ton of Hashi for each of their titles at Wembley at all in next month, so the Elite at the victory Doctor treover Scissa as Yeah, I like for some reason, I weird thing where it's like I watched this version of Akada is like he's like the million dollar Japanese man. Like it's just it's so it's it's good. It's something that you really never saw him do in New Japan, so it's it's kind of a new take on it, which it makes a ton of sense.
17:15 His English is not great, so he has the Bucks around him and potentially other people as well. Jack Perry's there as well, so it's good for him, it's good for the Bucks. Gives them a little bit of They don't have the muscle Guy and their faction, but if you have one of the best wrestlers in the world on your side, it makes a lot of sense as well. And I really enjoyed Scissorre's what it was. Tanahashi looks so out of place, but he was having fun with it. So a fun trios match and like or and like you said, like it sets up for all In if you get Okata and tana Hashi at aw all In, Like how out of water and weird and awesome? Is that all rolled up into one? Yeah, no, I'm I'm here for it, and I think that would be a lot of fun. Again, one of my favorite moments attending into this feud this match was the Wednesday Dynamite promo where like Tadahashi said something that he was the Cissarees and Okada was laughing in the ring like bro character. Yeah, it was just a lot. There was a lot of fun stuff surrounding this entire match, and then the match itself was pretty good. Next match year is Brian Danielson defeating Shingo Takagi in the Men's Own Heart Cup tournament first round match. We both had Danielson getting the victory.
18:26 Uh, this is the type of match that you would expect from Danielson and Shingo, which is really really good. I enjoyed the last part of this match, and I thought Danielson helped get Shingo over with any audiences that may not be accustomed with a new with a great new japan pro wrestler in Shingo Takagi. Danielson gets the victory and advances Dotch Trey and he also defeated Pac on Wednesday's Dynamite, so now he is in the finals of the Men's Own Heart Cup Tournament finals anyway, so I really enjoyed this matchup. It's one of the things I watches the matchinem going. I Danielson is getting Shingo over because as a sign of respect. But does it really matter if you don't use shingo again? Does it matter getting somebody over if they're not going to be around very much? Does it really help? But it made for a compelling match. It's just that's on those matches where you look at when Brian has to put this match together to show appreciation for somebody he admires, which is a really strong, good professional wrestling matchup. I actually enjoyed the match he had with Pak on Dynamite a little bit more just because I have more investment in Pak than I do Shingo. But once again Brian has in the finals. Is good for everybody because he's still one of the best wrestlers in the world and enjoy to see any time he gets in the ring and he's one hundred percent healthy or at least appears to be one hundred percent healthy.
19:45 Next match is time with Tony Storm defeating Mina Shurikawa to retain the AW Women's World Championship by Tony Doctor Trey and Mina. Mina Sharrikawa is a really fun in ring watch to seem ployees to be a big star someday soon. I would love to see Tony and Mina run it back in someday. Doug tray your thoughts on this one as Timeless retains. Yeah, this was me trying to go out of the box and catch up to Jeff by seeing the Mariah May match end. This match but yeah, you know, I saw Eric Bischoff crap all of this match, and I thought it was actually pretty. I thought it was decent. Tony's character work is still kind of ahead of her in ring work because there's a couple of spots in there where you're kind of like time he's let it off. But when you have somebody from the UK wrestling somebody from Japan and they've never wrestled before, that kind of happens.
20:30 But I like the character work of both ladies and thought this was a good compelling matchup, and then the weird love triangles good good storyline as well. So I actually really enjoyed this. I don't know what I mean. Eric was too cop in a steak. I guess I really enjoyed it, and I was eating while I watched it, So I think I would multitask a little bitter than Eric Bishoff of this case. Sometimes Bischoff is just a little too rough on aw and goes beyond where it's like, okay, yeah, no, I can understand that point, and I did not understand point in this match. Next met Year is Zach Saber Junior defeating Orange Cassie dout Tray, and I both hat Orange Cassie to get win. ZSJ is so much fun to watch. The finishing submission move was a thing of beauty and something I have never seen before, which is typical with ZSJ. Orange Casside held his own as a technical wrestling master in this one as well. ZFJ gets the victory over Orange Cassidy. Yeah, this is one of those ones where we went, Okay, New Japan guy wins, which is good for New Japan, but what does that do for Orange Cassidy, Like it's confusing sometimes of booking on some of these matchups, Like this is like a semi dream match for the new generation of wrestling fans, and I thought it was a really enjoyable match. It wasn't the typical Orange Cassiding match. He had to go hole for hole with CSJ, which is really hard to do because he may be the smoothest wrestler I have ever seen. The way he cans string stuff together and change stuff together is just incredible. But just a really really solid matchup. Once again. CSJ, though, gets a win over a top aw guy and we may not see ZESJ game for six months a
22:03 year, so what's the point in the booking of this match. If that's the case, so just a little confused by it. But maybe New Japan said, hey, guys, we got to get a couple of our guys over on this car, so just pick a couple of guys you like it. Those guys have to get wins. So I'm just a little confused by the booking of it. But as a match itself, just looking at it and watching it really really enjoyable. My theory on it is if a New Japan guy Goats gets over, that means Tony Kahan wants to eventually sign them. Yes, so that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean I would want to sign zesj as well, So not a surprise there. Next match, you or Samo, Joe Hook and Kassi or Schabada defeating Christ Jericho, Big Bill and Jeff Cobb in a trios match, I had Joe Hook and Shabata, Dot Trea, Jericho, Bill and Cobb. It's a pretty big deal for Hook to get the pin on Jericho by using his own finishing move. The trios of Joe, Hook and Shabbada is a lot of fun and I hope we see them get to get into the trio's title picture.
22:59 Soon enough. There was a big angle on Wednesday's Dynamite where Jericho, Big Bill and Brian Keith took out all three members of Joe, Hook and Shabbata. Hook got a massive beat down, Taz was removed from the building, which was a funny little segment. It was nice to see Jericho, Bill and Brian Keith get a little bit more violent with their characters because they were kind of borderline like a little bit too weak the way they were being built there. So good angle, fun match at fourbidden Door dotch tray your thoughts, and we saw the Wizard come back. We saw the fireball, so that was pretty cool too. I love that the first time Jackier Folebaugh was just yelling at I'm a wizard. I'm a Wizard. I thought was great. So it's good to see the Wizard come back a little bit.
23:47 But yeah, the when I watched the match live and saw Hook and Joe and Shabbati at the wind, I was look confused because I'm like, man, the learning tree has been built up kind of like this goofy, like not so serious heel group, Like what's the point of it? But then the collision part made sense to give them that edgeback. So but fun trios match, Like you said, if you get hooked Joe and Shabbata and the trio stuff like that'll be fun too. So good. Once again, it's just damn good, solid trios matchup. And you know, trios matchups for me, prior to the last maybe year of aw have not always been entertaining. So the ones are seal on the show so far, We're really good. Next match here is Jack Perry defeating Kenoski Takeshka, Mark Brisco, Dante mar and Leo Rush and l Phantasmo and a ladder match would be crowning the new AWT and T champion. We both let Jack Perry get in the victory.
24:38 I thought this match was a letdown given the circumstances with the T and T Championship and the gimmick match of the multi man ladder match. The finish came off as a lackluster as Jack Perry won the match. I get the real heel heat with Jack Perry and giving him the spot. I just have a real tough time taking him seriously given his height and size and all lasty in that cmpunk video still did not do him any favors because he got punked out. I think there's a lot of upside here, but he needs to put on some muscle similar how Swerve Strickland did. And I also felt like this match was kind of cut short on time. It just felt very rushed. Did not enjoy it all that much. And the Jack Perry victory was very easy to call. And I don't know, maybe I would have done it in a different way than a ladder match, So don't trait your thoughts on this one. Yeah, Like for me, like watching it and being ninety five percent sure Jack Perry was going to win. I kind of wanted not so much a swerve, but I wanted to make it seem kind of more compelling and the athletes in this match, I thought you'd get a lot more you know, crazy spots, some stuff that we haven't seen before, some innovation, and we really didn't get that. To Keshka being kind of added in last minute, I was like, Oh, that's great because we haven't really seen him on TV since you know, he threw his temper tantrum online and that was kind of a letdown. It was for a six person ladder match. This may be the weakest main or big show. Oh, six person ladder match I've ever seen. That's just that much of a letdown for what it could be. So I'm still Jack Perry's either got to get
26:10 bigger or he needs a muscle. He needs to have a Lucasource type guy with him if he wants to go to Sean Michael's route of being just undersized top eel. He needs something around him to make him feel like a threat. Right now, you just kind of feel like he's just annoying. He's he's like an annoying gnat that he just wait for somebody's swat away. Yeah, and it's not an annoying like he'll heat way. And I really have to say that about the guy, because I do think he's extremely talented. It's just like that, more opportunities they give him, it's just it's not believable, and he's he's got to do something. I mean, Swirre Strickland was a little bit undersized and and he bulked up kind of got more of a vicious attitude. I know what they were doing with the punk video to get some eyes on the product and get a little bit of a bump in an increase and welcome him back into storylines. But I just can't get that on my head. I mean, he looked like a bitch in that video, and how am I supposed to take him seriously as it's like badass, heel called a scapegoat, Like, it just doesn't make sense at all.
27:07 So he grew up here, Jeff, he grew up tells you that he hit puberty. So yeah, yeah, I mean again, I always say this, like, but he probably could kick my ass. But the thing is I say probably, you know what I mean, it's legitimate. It's it's legitimate there correctly. Like if Jeff is having an allergy breakout and it happens to be a Tuesday and he's a little hungry, maybe Jack Perry could take Jeff Peck. It would be the battle of the JP's though, yeah, it would be JP versus JP. That could be something that's like Icon versus Icon wrestling. In eighteen. Next match heear is Mercedes Moone defeating Stephanie Vakor in a winner take all match, retain the AWTVS Championship and win the New Japan Strong Women's Championship. We both had Mercedes Bonet again. This was written before Wednesday's Dynamite leave it to a New York crowd to start getting the Mercedes bone He'll turn, which the direction should be for her character going the short term on Mercedes running AW hasn't been as I had hoped it would go, and I think getting involved with returning doctor Burt Baker, DMD would be really good for her in the early stages of her AW career. We'll talk a little bit more about what happened on Dynamite in just a second, Doctor traight your thoughts on the match typical Mercedes mon a match for me, and this is the history of the Still Real Twist show where I'm just like, yeah, like I don't I still don't get the massive love for her.
28:26 I always said if she was wrestling somebody on her level or he thought was on her level, or one of her friends, she had great matches. Anybody else they were crap. And this one I just I'm watching going. All we heard was how much you know did her opponent, how good she was, and how great she was. And I watched this match, going this match kind of yeah at best, like agreed eh ladder match, I'm like, Okay, now I'm really kind of mad that I'm three hours into this show, three and a half hours in the show, and this is where I'm at right now. But always saving grace about this whole match and segment was the reappearance of Doctor Britt Baker. So like, once again, I'm just like people who tell me Mercedes Monet is a top five women's wrestler of all time, I still think are just delusional. Yeah. I figured when I watched this match and I did not enjoy it as well, and I was like, when we sit down for the podcast, doctor Trey's gonna be like I told you so, because I was very high on Mercedes Monet signing for AAW and just in the short term, it just has not been great. The match has been okay, the character has been fine. I felt like they should have gone heel immediately just because the way that she was carrying herself on television, and that should have been the direction. The creative has been all right, and she's kind of part time. I mean, she's not there as frequently as I had hoped. I think Will Osprey has been on television more than Mercedes Monet, and he's coming from freaking England for AW shows. So I also on this match, I saw that the goal
29:56 for aw and Mercedes Monette was to get about corp over and she's extremely talented, but and they felt like they achieved that. I did not feel like they achieved that. As a viewer at home, I'm not accustomed to her matches in her style of wrestling. I watched the match, I did not think, Okay, this is like me to Shirakawa in the match with time with Stony Storm, I was like, Mina is really good. I want to see more of her matches. I did not feel that with Stephanie vakor So. I disagree with the report out there that's saying that they felt like they accomplished what they wanted by getting her over as a star onto Dynamite. They leaned into the heill turn brit Baker in the ring, Mercedes Monet shows up. She is created by the EVPs the Young Bucks, who say that they've a celebration waiting for her in the ring while doctor britt Baker's in there.
30:44 One thing leads to another. Get down to the ring and britt Baker challeng challenges her to all in. Monette is leaning into the heel character again, right thing to do. The problem that I have with that segment is britt Baker says all in, and there was also it just felt very awkward between the two. It didn't flow well. I don't know if somebody missed a line or something that was supposed to be said. There was a part where it just felt very awkward, which is right around this all in part. So she says all in, Mercedes Bone says, you know, get in the back of the line, and then I think prit Baker said like, there's nobody there, and then she holds the title and I'm like, so does that mean they're having a mat? I think they get to all in, but was it official? Did Mercedes Monett give the thumbs up to say yeah, I'm I'll wrestle you at all in? It was a very odd segment. I felt, yeah, I'm watching and you and IBUB like britt Baker's when it comes to promos is probably one of the best in women's in the women's division in both companies, and it just felt off. It felt like they were both I don''t to say nervous, but very guarded.
31:56 It's almost like they didn't trust what the other was going to say. Like they were both waiting for the other person to one up them, almost like just being very protective of their spots while they're cutting these promos. And it's also just lack of communication and lack of ever being around each other, because you know, while Rip Baker's dominate AW Mercedes and ww A, Mercedes comes AW and BRIT's on the shelf. So it could just be that lack of communicative timing, which some people have and some people don't. But it was just kind of weird and clunky. But they are right to lean into Mercedes when a being a heel makes more sense. That's kind of her natural character is supposed to be hear the CEO. How many people go, you know who I love? I love the CEO of my company. Nobody ever says so if you're the CEO, obviously you're going to be kind of obnoxious, So it makes sense to go that way. And Britt Baker being I do love I did like the line of the only three letters that that matter are DMD. I did like that line. But yeah, just for two of the perceived best women wrestlers in the world to have kind of clunky promo and a couple of clunky interactions is a little scary. The other thing I dislike about all this is is the TVs title more important than the women's title.
33:15 Because these are the two biggest stars in your women's division and they're fighting over technically the intercontinental title. It's just weird. Once again, the hierarchy of titles and placements is just kind of often times like, I know this is a big match for all In, but to me, to get the women's title over onto the level of what you have in WWE, this future be for the women's title as opposed to the TBS title. Yeah, I don't know if they're trying to elevate that championship if they don't want them in the women's title reign so far, because Titlestony Storm's doing a very good job with their character. There's a lot of weird creative in that standpoint. And one thing that I'll also add to this is it wasn't too long ago that they brought back the ranking system and now it's completely washed away. Unless Britt Baker starts doing gets victories and all of a sudden is the number one contender and they go on the ranking system, it's like, well then why did you bring the raking system back when Joe was world champion? So yeah, it was very weird. I kind of got like CM punk type vibes, Like I feel like that there is a guard in aw that doesn't like when the outsiders come in and try to, you know, get some glory off of what they built. And I don't know if that's the case here, but it did feel like it was a very odd promo towards the tail end of it, it just was executed very very poorly between by both women. So if this is a dream match Britt Baker versus Mercedes Monet, and we'll see how this continues forward coming out of Forbidden Door. In this past Wednesday's edition
34:45 to Dynamite, next match here is Tutsi and Nido defeating John Moxley to win the IWGP World of aweight Championship by Anito, Dowt Tre and Moxley. I love both these guys as wrestlers, but I did not love this match, especially the end, as I felt like the there may have been some miscommunications on kickouts and spots in this one. I love Red Shoes the referee, but felt like he got too involved in a match between two greats at the end with a really slow third count attempt on a pin and then taking the chair away from Moxley. Lastly, I felt like Moxley and aw didn't really add much benefit to him holding the IWGP World of weweight Championship as it wasn't featured much in aw outside of I believe one title match against Powerhouse Hobbs and Jacksonville. I think everyone else everything else was eliminator matches. Not sure if that was a New Japan Pro Wrestling call or not or not, or due to the lack of the title defenses, it felt like this title reign for Max was just something he could add to his Hall of Fame resume, rather than getting new eyes on the new Japan Pro Wrestling product and understanding IWGP legacy itself. So that was my thoughts on this one. Doctorres Nitol regains the IWGP World aweight Championship over John Moxley. Yeah, and for me, I don't know if it was just fatigue for watching the entire show or what, but by this time I'm like, yeah, the match itself for two of the better wrestlers in the world, this match to me was just kind of like awkward and weird, and you know, all respect to Reshues, but he's almost in that Earl Hebner thing now where it's like he's almost too big
36:16 of a name to be a referee, like the referee feels like he needs to get his shine in a match almost at times. But yeah, it just it felt off. Now, I did you know, and I did read up on this a little bit that New Japan controls the booking for all of their titles, so this may this is a New Japan call to put the belt on Nido and not an AAW call. But it did feel like it was good for New Japan to have their title on Boxley even though he's not wrestling on TV. And it felt like it was good for AW because it showed Moxley still as a title holder and still because he's not hasn't really been featured in any of the things in AAW recently like Blackpool, Comba Absolute with if you do with the CML group and then he's got the du Japan stuff. They really have been factored into a thing since FTR got hurt, So maybe it's just a good placeholder spot now it shows that hey, we can move him on to something else more AWS. But yeah, the matches health the ending just I'm like watches and going with Moxley fights all over the ring and uses everything around the ring side, but he can't have the chair, Like that's where you're drawing the line Like that's a little weird to me, But yeah, to me, this was just like now we're at three to row matches where I'm just like, eh, like all my energy now sucked out of me. That's tough one of You're on match number fourteen, So let's get to match number fifteen. As Swerve Strickland defeats will Ospry to retain the AW World Championship in the main event match, we both at sperb of Strickland getting the victory. I loved the reported reason for this finish,
37:47 as fight Full Select is reported at will Osprey wanted to eliminate the talking point of Swerve being a placehold over for him until aw all in at Wembley, hence why the match took place Now that was something that we thought was gonna happen. I also love that these two guys got the opportunity to mainvent because if there were any doubters about their abilities and main event level players. It was silence on Sunday night. If you give these guys good creative to support their pay per view matches, then Swerve and Osprey can be guys that help rejuvenate the AW product. As for the match itself, the guardwell Hurricanrona spot was insane. From Osprey to Swerve, stop on Osprey onto the announcers table was nuts, and then the final part of this match was incredible. This is on my short list of Match of the Year candidates as Ospray and Swerve for some of the best in the visits today. Swerve Strickland retains the AW World Championship over will Ospray not to try. Yeah, the best thing I read about this was that there were guys in AW who did not want to lose who Swerve because a year ago he was a mid card, lower card guy and Osprey wanted to put that to the rest of Ospray can lose to Swerve. Anybody can lose the Swerve. So I love that this match was fantastic, and I was it was weird at this point. I don't know about you, Like I'm watching the show and after the last three matches, I'm like, oh, please, just let this match me decent. I was just hoping for decent to good at this point because I was exhausted, and it was fantastic. This is one of the things that made me a believer will Ospray as well, between the promo work he's been doing, the promo working he did on Collision, the intricacies of the storytelling when the screwdriver
39:21 gets slid into him and he has that internal confliction about using it and then decides not to use it, but it takes how many house calls and then a jml's driver at the end of finding blum away like this like legitimized will Ospray to me even more and once again put Sworth on that upper tier level. So fantastic, fantastic way match and a great way to close to the show because this is one of those matches that elevates both guys and so good job to AW Booking to put this together to keep both guys looking strong, not have some crazy run in interference and legitimize both guys. So you go AW and New Japan Arresting Forbidden Door recap and let's get our PAP per viewprediction record. Here I went twelve to one. Doctor Trey win eight and five coming out of this one, I'm an eighty and seventeen Dutch Trace seventy one and twenty six match of the night. In event rating, my match to night very easy. Here serves Stricken versus Will Osprey. It's is on the shortlist of match of the Year candidates for me. As for event rating, I give it a three point six out of five. I overall the show was fine. Fifteen matches on a wrestling card in twenty twenty four for five and a half hours is too much. I'm sorry if that is controversial to some wrestling fans that are like, they love this for five and a half hours and fifteen matches, it is not my cup of tea. There are matches in here that are fantastics working Will Osprey, Timstony Storm, Minasher at Kawa, I like the Elite and Scissor Ace and there mjffin Hetchin Sero was good. Like there's good matches in here. Then there's a lot of stuff
40:52 that you can basically skip over and gloss over that was just like why the hell did they do this? Or a match that was disappointing, like Night don't and mocks. I really think they need to change the pay per view model for aw and I don't think they they will again. Five and a half hours fifteen matches way too much, So I give it a three point six out of five. Doctor Trey. Yeah, not everything has to be a wrestle kingdom, and I don't mean to the old school wrestle kingdoms where it was six seven hours or WrestleMania. Not every pay per view. I mean, I get Forbidden Door. You got a lot of people coming in from multiple companies. It's a big deal, but the fatigue factor sets in and you can tell it done us watching the show. But I mean imagine being an attendance for five and a half hours of wrestling, not to mention you probably got there an hour early, and then try to get out of the building and drive home from Long Island. Oh my gosh. I feel I feel for the fans, and it's tense. I had the show.
41:50 I also at a three point six, which it's just weird that you pick the same number as me, and I also had auspring swear. But it's just yeah, I'm old man, I can't do five and a half hours anymore. I can't do, Jeff, I can't even do like three hours at a concert, and that's live music, NonStop. I mean five and a half hours, dear lord, Like I would need to be hopped up on cocaine and red bolts and survived that night in person. Like, it's just a crazy amount of just content to digest, and especially if the card flow is not right, Like if you move not Moxley and Nido to the beginning of that show and Nido get to win to kick off the show, you and I both go, oh, this is going to be different because New Japan got a win to start the show that's unexpected. And then you put MGF somewhere in the middle. I think that flows a little bit better.
42:42 But this is this is an example of why match placement and how you book the show out is so important, because the show started off really strong and then really started kind of dipping towards the end, and only kind of Osprey and Swar saved it at the end to make this a good pay per view at least. Yeah, I had wrestler Any thirty vibes, which is what led to two night events for WrestleMania, basically because it was I think a fifteen to eighteen match card off the top of my head, and it was like, they need to do something different here, and I think AW needs to do something different. But I feel like also that AW is going to dig their heels in the sand a little bit and not change anything.
43:24 I think this is what they think their business model is and it's not something that I want to see on the regular. It should not be a chore to watch these shows. It really should be give me quality, not quantity. So we've talked about this at nauseum in the past, and it just was brought up again because for Benendor was so fucking long and again thank god, Swerve of Stricklin, will Osprey put on an absolute clinic And to that point, like I'm looking at my AW shows that I've given match to the night AW Revolution, Ospray, Kenoske Aw Dynasty, Osprey Danielson was mine, AW double or not Osprey, rogerck Strong and then Forbid Indoor, Osprey, Swert of Strickland. So I think I really like Will Ospray Doctor Trey.
44:07 Well, you did tell me he would be the biggest free agent signing whenever he decided and signed with one of the two major companies. So yeah, your love affairly Will Osprey. Now, if you go back years and years ago, I always said if Osprey put on size, he'd be a main event talent. Another one of those put on size. Yeah, just it does matter. Size matters. I don't know if everybody knows that, but it does matter in the world of professional wrestling that if you look the part, you're believable, which is also why Jeff Perry, Jeff pechis he could beat up Jack Perry. Yeah. I hate to say it, I really do, because it's a very like corny wrestling fan thing to say, but I'm having a really tough time taking Jack Perry believable. I mean Ospray I watched him in twenty seventeen when he was with Chaos working as a junior heavyweight, and he was a small guy. He bulked up when he became the IWGP Worldlyweight Champion and looked phenomenal. I mean, I'm just such a believer and say things for Stricklyn. I remember watching Swerve in NXT and prior to that, on the Independence and various different promotions, and he was a junior heavyweight. He was he was working two A five live in we those guys put on size and I, without batting an eye, I did not change.
45:16 I changed my thoughts on them being main event level players. So I love that Swerve and Osbury planted their flag in the ground. Forbidden Door was extremely long. Again, but if you have not watched Dynamite yet, go out of your way and check it out. It was a very very strong episode of AW Dynamite. It is what I wanted to see. I saw really good creative entertainment segments and good entering work. So props all around AW here on the short term, switching gears to w w WEE, we've got to preview and predict Money in the Bank and NXC heat Wave in just a moment. But I want to talk about another great angle and segment that I wanted to do bring up here on the show, and that was the closed to Friday's SmackDown where Paul Hayman says to Solo Socoa that you are not my travel chief. During the Bloodline acknowledgement ceremony, they end up laying out Paul Hayman in something that we've never really seen with his character, I mean, absolutely brutalized him during that segment and to me, it will go down as a memorable moment in the history of SmackDown, and especially for this angle.
46:15 So two parts here, Doctor Trey and I felt this way prior to and I can't even believe I'm saying this, but is this the best we've ever seen from Paul Hayman? And was the Bloodline acknowledgement ceremony from SmackDown pure cinema for you as well? Yeah, I mean for Paul Hayman. I'm literally like going through the analogs of my timeline watching Paul Hayman, going back to roughly nineteen eighty six in Awa. So I've been watching Paul Haman for almost forty years. This last run since WrestleMania has been really fantastic. I don't know, I have to sit down and kind of rank it, but it's right there. I mean, this is some of the best work. I mean, the facials, the stammering in his voice, the you know, all the little stuff he's been doing. And then to see that spot on SmackDown, and mind you, I'm jealous as well because I've never been put through a table in my time as the wrestling manager, and I've always wanted to do it and we just haven't never got a chance to do it.
47:22 So I was a little jealous as well. But it's fantastic work. It's it is. It was kind of like, you know, they make the comparison with Day even the videos of this of the Bloodline being compared to The Godfather, and it did feel like a hit from the Godfather when they took him out and put him to the table. So and I think the last time I saw Paul Hayman get actually beat up might have been by CM Punk during the CM Punk Ryeback Curtis Axel time frame, So that was the last time I think I can remember seeing Paul Hyman actually get beat up. So yeah, just really really good television. It's gonna be one. It's the him going up on the show is to look on his face just knowing, like when he's getting hoisted up and all that stuff, like just so so good. But yeah, one of the best ends to SmackDown in a recent memory as well. And once again this is just one of the differences the times between WW and AW is. It's just the television aspect sometimes is more compelling, where now you're like, crap have to see what's going to happen on the next show, what the fallout is going to be from it, like whether it Paul or Triple Ah said the recently w is a movie about sports, and this is one of those pieces where you can go, yes, this is cinematic quality, like I erst been there today say that Paul Hayman deserves an Emmy for his performance since WrestleMania with all this work with the new bloodline. Uh And it'd be hard to argue that if you put up
48:52 his work against some of the stuff you see on television shows, Paul Hayman could be considered for an Emmy. It's been that good. This is going to be very hokey of a way to do this because I can't play audio from my computer anymore during the podcast. But the pop that Paul Hayman received when he told Solo Saka that he is not his tribal chief was absolutely epic and it was a great Madison Square Guarner card. So I'm going to bring it up here on the Instagram and stand by here because this is going to be very very bad and not the way that I like to do this. So let's see. I think this is it good? I mean Doctor Trey, that reaction is epic. Yeah, I mean I got chills. It was a little bit of the way he the way he spaced it, the timing delivery of it. It was. It was very cinematic. It was also very mope Mari Povich if you are not the Father, like it was a little bit of both for me watching it, where he's like, you are not my tribal chief. Only need It was like Jacob Atoo dancing or something. Oh yeah, like I'm a hunter, Like I could just picture like you know, Tom and Tong gonna say, look, Paul Hayman was gonna say he's one hundred and fifteen percent sure that he's going to you know,
50:27 and then you know the dancing in the background. But yeah, just so good. And I mean that's every time somebody turns against the bloodline, you get one of these crazy pops, whether it was Sammy Saying or Jay Uso and now Paul Hayman. I mean, people give a shit, They give a shit. Yeah, And just the fact that Paul Hayman, who is admired universally and reviled at times universally, got that kind of pop I mean, how good does that feel for him to get a baby face pop like that in the same building he started taking pictures of wrestlers. That's for him. That has to be that full. He could retire tomorrow, he could die a happy man, a happy man from it. But dear God, don't leave us yet, Paul, because you still got more good to put out there for the rest of us. So the second part in this is I felt like that Roman was going to be away for a while.
51:27 I was thinking maybe they'd do something at Survivor series war games which would make sense where it was like Solo's bloodline versus Roman's bloodline, or maybe even hold them out to twenty twenty five. When this angle happened, all I can think of was like, they need Roman at SummerSlam, Like there is no way right now that Roman can't be at SummerSlam, because the crowd wants it, and they could actually start if that's the direction they want to go, They can start to build with Roman. Reigns returns in an epic fashion at SummerSlam. Are in like the presumed assumed Solisakoa Cody Rhodes match with the title at SummerSlam, they close out the show that way, and then Roman starts to rebuild his version of the bloodline where maybe Jimmy sides with him again.
52:14 I think that's immediate. Obviously Paul returns, and then maybe he wins over jay Uso and gets Sammy z Ain back, so that you have a match at War Games like four on four or five on five. However they want to do it where it's like Roman's bloodline versus Solo's bloodline. I think to me this confirmed that Roman is coming back sooner rather than later than I had thought as a fan. Yeah, because Paul's been so good in his role that to make this move now was like my kind of clue that, Okay, Roman's coming back, because otherwise there's no need for this to happen now.
52:54 I mean, we still haven't got some money in the bank, we still haven't got the Summer Slam. You know, we still got those spots. That also confirms to me that Roman is going to you that the Rock will eventually side with Solo because he's going to need a mouthpiece to help against Paul when these two sides go to battle, and Rock doesn't have to be in the War Games match, but he could be the hype man for whatever this goes down. But yeah, like that's also like when you look on paper and you're like, well, Jimmy's not doing anything. Jay is probably going to get tied up in the Wyatt six a little bit or something. Is kind of my feeling on it. And then if Sammy loses the Intercontinental title to bron Breaker, then you could reunite the quote unquote og bloodline against Solo's blood line and it makes a lot of sense, and you can align those parts to where it makes sense storyline wise to pull it all together as well. Yeah, it's it's sentiment right now. So I just felt like, Okay, Roman is coming back to gender rather than later, and that reaction is going to be here huge. I saw somebody had tweeted out it was a pretty funny line where it was like Vince, it took Vince forever to get romanover's a babyface, and Triple H did it in just a couple months. Because I mean, the crowd wants them. I mean they are epically wanting the guy who was the biggest heel in the company to return and lay claim to his table as the head of the table, and the Tribal Chief, Absolute Cinema, really really enjoyable stuff and looking forward to this continuing
54:30 going on. And I'm very happy for sols Coo. I mean, he is really coming to his own and is really breaking out here in twenty twenty four. Let's get to the matches and cards that are taking place this weekend. WAE Money in the Bank Preving Predictions that comes to us this Saturday from the Scotia Bank Arena in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The first match here is the Men's Money the Bank Ladder Match for Men's Championship Match contract. You have ja Uso Carmelo, Hayes Andrade, Chad Gable, La Night and Drew McIntyre Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? Man? This one's hard. This is one of the first money that banks in the was You're really hard for a pick. To me, I've got your Chad Gail or Drew McIntyre or by two like to my two options, i think I'm going to take Drew getting to win, even though party really wants to pick Gable, but I think I'm gonna pick Drew getting to win in this one.
55:15 I'm gonna take Drew McIntyre as well. There's a lot of reports early on that Jay Usso was the favorite in this one. I think maybe things have changed. And I thought Drew McIntyre's promo on Monday's Raw, where he was going to cash in at Money in the Bank is something that I think takes place. I think Drew McIntyre cashes in, he wins the briefcase and cash is in. I'll get to that later on in the podcast here in the preview, and then that sets up Drew McIntyre for Gunther versus Guntherer at SummerSlam, and I think that would be the direction that they would take. And because Punk's gonna be away for a while, and I think maybe that would leads to Punk taking out Drew McIntyre and we get that match eventually here in maybe the late August or early September. So both was taking Drew McIntyre to win this one. Next match is Eo Sky versus Chelsea Green, Libra Valcarie, Tiffany Stratton, Naomi and Zoey Stark and the Women's Money Bank Ladder match for a Women's Championship match contract. I'm gonna take Tiffany Stratton this one.
56:09 I want to pick Chelsea Green, but I'm gonna go with Tiffany because I think Nia Jax and her are gonna have a partnership. Naya Jacks is gonna get a title match at Summerslamp. I think Nia wins that one, which then eventually leads to Tiffany Stratton turned in on NYA. So I'm gonna take Tiffany Stratton, win them one of the bank briefcase doctor try all right, you won me over. I was gonna pick Chelsea because Chelsea's my favorite person to watch in this match, but having Tiffany and Naya on the same side, and especially if NYO wins in SummerSlam, where now they're kind of an alliance, but one has the briefcase and one has the belt, so you never trust they can't trust each other completely makes a ton of sense and probably more compelling TV than any think we've got out of Bailey since winning a WrestleMania. So I'm gonna take Tiffany Stratton as well, so you kind of maybe flip my pick there, and and I'm okay with that one. The next match is Sammy Zain defend the Inter CONTINENTLD Champions against bron Breaker. Who do you like this one not to try? I kind of alluded if we're gonna go back to og Bloodline. You don't really want the Inner Connell title around. So I'm gonna take broun Breaker getting the win. Plus, it just feels like they're just gonna rocket ship this guy as far at the ladder they can go. I got bron Breaker winning the Inner Connell title. I'm gonna take Sammy's ain because I feel like Sammy's ain is wes Lee to me.
57:22 Now, when Wesley held a North American championship, I always thought Wesley was gonna lose. And I love Sammy. Sammy's one of my favorites. But I think Sammy overcomes these odds again and I think he defeats bron Breaker, which will be interesting. I think they need to put a loss on bron Breaker's ledger since being up on the main roster, and this is the way that you do it. So I'm gonna take Sammy z Ain to retain the inter Continental Championship. The next match is Cody Roads, Randy Orton, Kevin Owens taking on the Bloodline in a six man tag team match. I'm gonna take the Bloodline in this one because I believe Solo Soko versus Cody Roads takes place at SummerSlam, and you need the bloodline to get some strong momentum hanging into that one. So I'm taking the bloodline to get the victory. Yeah, I'm taking the blood line as well. Plus, there's four members of the blood line and only three members of Cody, Randy and Kevin.
58:05 Unless Little Jimmy shows up on their side, we can't see him. Uh, So I'm taking the bloodline as well, just because I figure tongala will be the deciding factor in that match. Interesting Tongaloa becoming the former Camacho, isn't it. Isn't it Tomatonga Solo and Jacob fut two in the match. I definitely think Jacob fuck two is in the match. Yeah, I think that's probably the way that the ego because Tangaloa does have a knee issue, that's why he's but he's also working more trios matches and tag team matches because of that. So yeah, I think that's a three. I think that's a three. I think you got it right there. He's the one not involved, so he could be the factor in the match. To decide who wins because he's not involved, so he's the he's the the leverage they have in this match. I'm gonna take a step further there. Somebody doesn't get involved, but I think it's Hickeoalo finally debuting. I think Kickelo is w W bound and gonna be bloodline bound. See, but then that makes me wonder, like I still think that Hicelo may sign with with with Roman because the rock would mean the person for the new blood line. That would be interesting be the fifth person for Roman's blood line. That's an interesting point.
59:15 I like that point, Doctor Trey. That would be cool if if Roman brought someone to even up the odds. All right, so good stuff there. Botho's taking the blood line to win this one, and that takes us to the uh last chance match for the World Have Away Championship. If Damian Priest wins, Ronalds will never challenge for the title as long as Priest's champion. If Rollins wins, Priests must leave the judgment day, Doctor Trey, who do you like this one? Damien Priest defends against Seth freaking Rollins. I'm taking Damien Priest to get the win because this time's out. Like, if Damian Priest wins and then Drew cashes in on him, then Seth can challenge for the title right away. Priest stays in the Judgment Day and you still got all the tension building in it. So I almost take Priest retaining this one and then Drew mcintarre cashing in on at the end of the show.
1:00:02 I'm taking the same exact thing that you said. I feel like I'm ordering it a diner and somebody just has the same exact meal that I have. I am taking Damien Priest to retain. I have Drew McIntyre cashing in and winning afterwards. I do think that there is some hokey stuff going on with the Judgment Day, whether it be Finn Balor or Live Morgan that gets involved in this match, But Damian Priest does not walk out of money the bank as World of aweight champion, but is still in Judgment Day, which I think leads to a build where Damian priests and maybe has taken on Finn Balor at SummerSlam. So I have Damian Priest winning this one, as does Doctor Trey, and we both have Drew McIntyre leaving Money the Bank as the World of aweight champion, and that takes us to Sunday Night, n XY heat Wave Previeum Predictions again from the Scotio Bank Arena in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. We have a pre show match here as Carmen Petrovic and Arionic Grace take on JC Jane and Jasmine Nicks. I'm going to take j C.
1:00:58 Jane and Jasmin Nixon this one, Doctor Trey, I'm taking. I'm taking j C. Jane and Jasmine Nicks as well, because we've had a lot of Jay's on this show, so we'll take J J and Uh. We're taking all the James I'm taking. I'm picking Jay's in this one. Next matches for the NX Tag Team Championship is Nathan Fraser and Axiom defend against Chase University, Andre Chase and Duke Cutson. Who do you like this one, Doctor Trey. I'm taking Nathan Fraser and Axiom because I think Ridge Holland gets involved, tries to help Chase you and then cost them the match. So I'm gonna take Nathan Fraser Acxiom. I'm gonna take Chase University, becoming the new NX Tag Team Champions, and I think Ridge Holland does get involved he's not supposed to be there, helps them win. And then it also leads to the stuff the tension between Nathan Fraser and oxyam Axiom as there as Nathan Fraser is kind of focusing more on his singles career rather than their tag team.
1:01:46 Next match is Colonie Jordan defending the NXC Women's North American Championship against Soul Ruka. I'm gonna take Colonie Jordan to retain Doctor Trey. Yeah, if this match was maybe three or four months out and Colonie Jordan had a little bit more time with the with the belt, maybe I picked stal Urca because he was one of my people I was really impressed with in that ladder match. But I'm taking Kilonie Jordan as well. Next match is once again another last chance match for the NAX North American Championship. If Oba wins Lee can ever challenge for the title for as long as Femmy as the champion. Opa Femi defends against wes Lee Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? Man? This one's tough for me because it's it's like we were talking about with all ago, It's hard to pick against west Lee because every time you think he's going to lose is when he actually wins. I'm gonna take Obafemi though, winning this one, just because I think wes Lee they can move him on to something else, or move him to the main roster, or have him be going the crossover guys going to TNA. So I'm gonna take Oba Femi retaining. I'm gonna take Oba Femi retaining as well. And I think they could actually put wes Lee in the world title picture rather than the North American Championship title picture, which is something that I always laugh about, like it's like a secondary title I can ever challenge for again. But I'm gonna go out chase the biggest title in the game. So ob retains, and I could see Wesley going after the NXT Championship following heat Wave.
1:03:06 Next match is Roxane Perez defending the NXC Women's Championship against the Lolavice. I'm gonna take Lolavice to this one. I think it's her time. She has had a really really good build over the last couple of weeks, and I believe in her to be a top level player in the women's division. So I'm taking Lolavice to become the new NXC Women's champion. See, I thought I get you on this one because I'm taking Lolovice as well. She's got to capitalize on the win over Shana Basler and there's no I mean if she gets wins Overshana Basler in an underground match and then over Roxdan Perez in a wrestling match, that really establishes her. So I'm taking Lolvice as well. And then finally the main event is Trick Williams defends the NX Championship in a fatal four way match against Javon Evans, Ethan Page, and Sean Spears, Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? I really want to pick Ethan Page, I really do. I'm just having a hard time doing it because Trick's still over with the crowd. I don't think any other three people in this match are super over with the crowd. I know Evans is.
1:04:03 I think Evans is for sure. Yeah, it's kind of like in that west Lee Bowl where he's the undersized underdog. I'm gonna take Trick just because I think he's still the He still looks like much as I like Evans. He doesn't look. It's the size batter again, like he doesn't look he's not big enough yet or have enough in his bank to bank on you. As far as credibility, I'm taking trick to retain. I'm gonna take Trick Williams to retain as well. But I also want to take this moment to say that Javion to evans climb in NXC is historic to me. About four months ago he was working on NXC level up and he has gotten himself into the main event picture and nobody is bad at eye at it. Nobody's like what is this kid doing? There a ton of amazing upside here.
1:04:46 I mean, you want to talk about prodigies like Roxanne Perez, Javian Evans is one of them. This is a guy that can be a face of the brand for the next three years moving forward. I agree with you, definitely needs to put on some size, but there's some well, Osprey, there's a connection this guy has with the audience that is hard to find, and it's exciting to see for someone who has been on XC television such a short period of time and again not batting an eye for him to be in this main event level match, so we both have Trick Williams retaining. We will recap in review we Money in the Bank and NXC heat Wave on next week's edition the podcast. Once again, we will do our twenty twenty four SRT Awards candidates at the halfway point of twenty twenty four on July eighteenth, Zon in two weeks time, and we're gonna be focused on the plads and pay per views that are going on professional wrestling for now and try to give that show of a bigger breather with everything going on right now. So with that said, let's close up shop on this week's sestion the podcast and get a couple plugs and sponsors out of the way. You can download show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guy Radio dot com, wrestle chatnett on X and the story rail of the show iTunes feed, don't the rate review and subscribe to help us climb the charts on iTunes. You can follows individual on X for myself at SRTU Jeff and Productory Franklin, d Doctor Trey, and of course don't follow a show on X at I started to your podcast. With that being said, what's going on one for World of doct Trey Franklin this week. Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on x at the Doctor Trey. You find me on Instagram and Facebook Doctor Trey Franklin.
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