WarGames Preview, Punk & Joe’s 17-Year Parallel, Full Gear Fallout & More! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #824 – 11/27/25

0:00 It's still real to be damaged! What up, you! Welcome everybody! Welcome to this week's a dissimistorilla show. Episode 824 from November 27th, 2025. This is your AWF full gear recap and WWE Survivors Series Wargames preview and predictions edition of AskRTU. I am on app to show I am Jeff Peck joined every single week my coach, the lonely Dr. Fred Franklin, Dr. Trey.

0:42 Happy Thanksgiving my friend! See, I was waiting for something clever, something kind of off the wall and you went with happy Thanksgiving. So now I am like, "Man, I don't even have a funny joke for it." But happy Thanksgiving Jeff, you know, I always appreciate you around the holiday season and how we have crazy schedules. I will say that I will not be double-fisting the stuffing of the circuit this year. I am just going one fist this year, not two. Damn it, we were going to put that on video again, put it up on the Patreon page, have some new subscribers, all that good stuff. Hey, you know what, that's what last year's memories are for. You know, straight forward, just a happy Thanksgiving. We talk about this every single year.

1:24 The older you get, I will be 40 years old next year. Dr. Trey and I have talked about this hundreds of times when we do the holiday shows. And this is like the official unofficial kickoff to the holidays now. This is my favorite holiday. I love Thanksgiving, it's just growing up. It was Christmas. I think it may go back to Christmas now that my son is of age where he's starting to understand and we're building him up as to who Santa Claus is. So there's a chance that that may switch. But for the longest time, it's just been like we play a flag football game amongst folks that I know.

2:08 Then I go to the first stop, my in laws for Thanksgiving. Watch a little football. I get to watch the lines and packers, my packers on Thursday afternoon here on the East Coast. Travel real quick, then go to my brothers. And for the evening Thanksgiving and then come home and just kind of like rest and relax. It's my favorite day. It's my favorite holiday, Dr. Trey. So yeah, just simple straight forward just a happy Thanksgiving, my friend. Yeah, mine, mine's fluctuated over the years like we were when I was younger. The family was really big on Thanksgiving. Then as the older generation passed away and the family came a little more splinter with people living in other areas.

2:51 It kind of lost its lustre a little bit. I have some great memories of traveling and being on the road working on Thanksgiving. I mean, I'm sure you remember some of those days where I'd be like in Massachusetts or Rhode Island or just some weird random spot for the holidays. Always had some good friends that would invite me over and I could share in their holidays. And now that you know, put down roots and settled into life in Alabama. Like I was telling you off air like I adore having Thanksgiving with my grandmother and like she's one of the best cooks and just goes all out. And then there's my mother-in-law and her combined will cook turkey ham, all the fixings, all the side dishes, the whole nine yards, the whole family comes over even though the house may be a little small for 15 people, but we make it work.

3:42 And the fun part is just trying to figure out what Sammy will eat because he is extremely picky about the foods he eats. It's like, dude, there's literally every dish you could think of out here. There's not chicken and french fries. I'm good. That's the hard part. But for everybody else, it's eat, be merry and try not to pass out on the way back to your own home. Is there hope that like as he gets older because I was like a picky eater grown up that he becomes a fan of Thanksgiving? Or are you losing hope in that? So between my wife, my stepson and him, I've lost hope. My wife is and most merry guys can attest to this. It's always fun trying to figure out where we're going to eat because she will be like, no, I don't want that.

4:28 Nope, I don't want that. And most guys are like, I don't care. I just need food to come inside me. I don't really, I doesn't matter what it is. My stepson though is extremely picky. We've broadened his palate over the years, but he's the kid that will go get a cheeseburger plane, just meat and cheese, tacos, just meat and cheese, no fixings, no vegetables. Sammy, we were slowly like, I kid you not like three weeks ago, my wife flipped out because I got him to eat a mozzarella stick. Like it was the first one that he actually ate without like it being forced upon him. He was like, this is good. And I'm like, you do realize dad's recovering fat guy. Like I will not direct you in the path of bad food. Like if I tell you something's good, it's because it's actually good.

5:17 Yeah, no, I mean, there's a lot of great food Thanksgiving wise. I feel like we talk about this every year. Is it is like the mac and cheese is like a big thing as part of your regular Thanksgiving. Do I have that right? No, it was in previous iterations. Now it's mostly so we have ham turkey, mashed potatoes. Ham is the one that you have. I'm not a big turkey guy. I love my ham. I've gotten more as the longer I've lived in Alabama. I've grown to like sweet potato casseroles or pies, depending on doesn't really I used to never like them. And now I'm like, okay, not so bad.

5:58 And my step mom, back when she was able to actually cook is like she made a really good broccoli casserole as well. So yeah, it's always interesting because every every so often it's like you have your core. Your core meats and your core sampling of side dishes and then somebody besides they want to be creative and try something new for Thanksgiving or a holiday is like. Yeah, that one we should have skipped out of could just stick to your basic vegetable your green beans your my family should just do a candied carrots at Thanksgiving also. Oh, those are really good. What does that consist of? It's basically just carrots and syrup. Like I said, is that what it is? Okay. Yeah, it's nothing fancy. It's just very simple. It's kind of like how they make candied yams like as we could say it own. Same thing just with carrots.

6:46 But yeah, like as long as like if you give me some like give me a vegetable at least. So I don't feel like a total pig. Then I'm usually going to shape it. Give me the green beans with the bacon, mixed in and all that stuff and season and we're good to go and then like yeah, they'll always try to push me to get turkey. And I'm like, okay, I'll eat it a little bit because somebody worked really hard to make this. But I'm focusing on the ham. Now do they deep fried turkeys for one of the dinners this Thursday? Not at this house. Now my dad is a deep like he loved deep frying turkeys. Although he was not an expert at it one year. He lost the needle like he would inject his turkeys with orange juice to give a little extra flavor.

7:33 And then deep fry it and he went to do that one year and lost the needle in the turkey somewhere. And we literally like after he deep fried it, we had to put it in the microwave just to see which one if a piece would spark. Yeah. And never found it. Nobody nobody bit into it. We just it just disappears. I assume it got lodged in a bone and nobody got it. Yeah, we've had we've never had any of the fires. We've never had any severe burns. Thank God. Some near some near misses because somebody once tried to they were defrosting the turkey and then it was still have much moisture on it from the ice melting. It went right to deep fry and did kind of explode out. But me, I'm like, no, I every woman in my in laws can bake a turkey correctly. So we don't need to deep fry it.

8:25 All right. Right on. Hey, you know what? I'm doing 50 50. So I'm doing the traditional turkey for the first round. And then my brother is deep frying turkey. And I love it. I get to get to have hands in both styles of turkeys. It's a very. It's a very manly thing when you say you're a deal like I don't know any women who are like, I'm going to deep fry a turkey. It's always a guy. Yeah, 100%. It's like we can't really I mean, I've had people smoke their turkeys for Thanksgiving. That's cool. Never had a grilled one, but usually if it's if it's a woman preparing the dinner is some kind of baked glaze really kind of pretty turkey. And if it's a guy's like, I'm going to shove this turkey into the hottest boiling oil I can find.

9:12 I mean, it should sounds very masculine when you do it that way. Yeah, absolutely. And it's absolutely delicious. It's it's a guy thing to cook them. And then it's like a female thing to be like that's actually pretty good. Like that's always the response. There's always like this shock. Even like years of doing it. Like my wife and my mom are both like really excited for the turkey after having it. Like it tastes really good. And I can't get my in-law side to like give it a shot because they don't want to veer off of the traditional path. Plus they don't want to screw up Thanksgiving dinner, which I can totally understand. That should probably not be the time that you test. Hey, let me deep fry a turkey right now.

9:53 At least on your side of the family with you and your brother, you have trained professionals on site. It's something goes the rye as well. So yeah, yes, we know how to tell people to evacuate a building and also not spread a great fire. So yeah, Thanksgiving. It's traditionally a big holiday in the world of professional wrestling, even today. And there'll be something stuff that we'll talk about in this week's edition and show that is just surrounded in professional wrestling, whether V.A.W. full gear. The return of the continental classic or don't really survive a series this weekend. It still has that Thanksgiving traditional feel when it comes to professional wrestling.

10:33 We'll cover it all on this week's edition of the show. Thank you for making part of your thanksgiving. We always have traditionally said this is the 16th time we've done a show now on Thanksgiving. 16th straight years and we always the tagline is that we hope that this is like an hour to get away from the family for a little bit and just talk and just listen to or talk with some professional wrestling chatter here between Dr. Trey and I on SRT you. Friendly reminder starting soon, starting this Monday, Patreon will be free for the month of December as part of our listener appreciation month. Sign up now patreon.com/srtupodcast if you don't want to pay. You can sign up as a free member. Everything will be not behind a pay wall on Patreon.

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12:00 With that said Dr. Trey, let's get into AWFUL gear. It was this past Saturday from the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey. I'll run through the results here then we'll discuss some things that that stuck out you had the bag bag gang defeating Max Kaster and Anthony Bowen's big bill and Brian Keith and the Outrunders in the tailgate brawl for $200,000. Bumin Doom, big boom AJ and QT Marge on the feet RPG vice by pinfall the tailgate brawl Eddie Kingston and hooked to feed the workhorseman on the tailgate brawl. L Sky team defeated the Don Cales family, O'Cotta, Tikeshka and Etch and Sarah by submission to retain the CMLL World Trio's championship that started the tailgate brawl and then ended on full gear.

12:40 Pock defeated Darby Allen the timeless love bombs won the women's fatal for away about the against the remaining teams in the women's acting title tournament. Now they get a pick their stipulation. FTR are the new AW tag team champions defeating Brodito, Ricochet won the Casino Gautlin match to become the inaugural AW national champion. Kyla Riley defeated and tapped out John Moxley once again in a no holds bar match. Mark Brisco defeated Kyle Fletcher in no DQ match to win the AWT and T championship. Josh Alexander the Young Bucks defeated Kenny Omega Jurassic Express to win the $1 million Trio's match. Post match the Young Bucks make the save and help Kenny Omega out and it looks like the elite are back together.

13:22 Chris Stattl entered a feeding Mercedes Monet to retain the AW Women's World Championship and Samoa Joe defeats Hangman Adam Page in a steel cage match to win his second run as AW World Champion. Dr. Trey some thoughts and takeaways from AWF full gear this past Saturday my friend. Very interesting card as far as the results go. I mean not too shocking or surprising. I think last week I called the hook angle. Like get involved and you did be constantly hangman the match and it worked out that way. I'm kind of good with FTR becoming the AW World tag team. James Brodito was fun but I kind of want AW's tag team division to get back to being the tag team division at one point.

14:10 And we're starting to see that when you see the box you see Jurassic Express back together see him bones and caster even though there's you know storyline drama in there but still the acclaimed. We're starting to see AW kind of round back out the tag team division again which I think is a really good thing. I don't know how I feel about the results of the casino gauntlet battle. Like I'm happy that ricochet what like I'm his heel runs been pretty good and it's good on him to actually get a championship. I think this is his first title since he was the North American champion. Like that just tells you how long ago that was.

14:51 But I still don't get like if you got the hurts and it can starting off one and two what it's really. I see title run sorry I don't think he did I think he was I see champion. I might be wrong. I don't know if it was it's not very memorable. Was it US I don't I'm looking up right now I thought he had US I know he had US title let's say WWE. We were we were competing in a continental championship run United States championship run so he did help those and also was the very first speed champion Dr. Try so. The speed champion I don't count because I don't mean I mean it was a YouTube thing. I mean it was a excuse me an egg and a Twitter X thing like that's like counting all the 24 seven championships.

15:36 But that's just like I don't remember the IC or US title runs. That's just so shit like I vaguely like now you mentioned like I vaguely remember the US title being on him but it wasn't there very long. What he's most known for in that IC title run. What's that? Gunther defeated him to start the streak. Yeah that's a good point because I honestly know you said I'm like yeah I don't think I could have said if you said hey who did Gunther beat to be IC champion. I don't think ricochet would have been on my list. Yeah that just came to me I was like I now I remember this it was like right around the time. I think they were doing the world cup deal on Smackdown very briefly and then Gunther defeated him and that started the stretch.

16:20 Am I wrong in kind of questioning why you put the horse in a kit and one and two and then they don't just somebody just doesn't lay down and let the other guy pet him and I don't know. Like the old new HL laws deal. Yeah yeah but this is and then this way it's legal you know it's just like this how the match goes out you have two competitors and you know it's first pin fall. Why don't you just let you know show an Benjamin B. You know the first national champion because Bobby laid down for Michelle Burns at our vice versa like it just it. I don't know they could have spaced it out a little bit I would have been I would have questioned it. Stattlender beating Monet I mean that's pretty cool like that's only Mercedes fourth singles loss since she came to AEW.

17:04 So that kind of helps elevate Stattlender and that's now twice that she's challenged for that belt and lost. So overall I mean in the Samoa Joe hangman thing once again. I hangman's runs over and and where do you rank it do you think it was a good title run because I to me. The hook turned and the return of Swarve almost overshadows the win but was this hangman title run better than his previous title run and just kind of. I don't know I guess it kind of feels a little flat I guess I don't really know how you how you think of that. I think both of his real title runs are pretty flat.

17:46 I think the first one is better than second one. What's to me is I hate to say this because I love hangman and page it just feels like he's a little bit of a transitional champion and has been because I think they knew they needed to take the title off of Moxley but they had no plan in place on how to book. Hangman post the all out match between him and John Moxley or all in excuse me. It feels weird that you know he can beat mox which I guess you know Kylo Riley have any wins over mox kind of brings Moxley down a peg but you know you're having a book is also shocking which I'll bring up.

18:28 But like you're having a member of your trios champion become the world champion it kind of feels like not I mean the rivalry has been pretty good in the hook turns pretty cool and you know I get it hops is kind of out you like having the three guys in the mix but. It just feels a little bit off and I mean unless you're positioning Joe to be like this monster heel champion that nobody can get to all moxley the death writers like I just I mean are you setting up for swerve to take the belt right off of Joe like it's just a little bit weird and then the pot Darby thing I don't I don't know about you but that feels weird too is like. Like Darby supposed to be like the big hero the big you know momentum baby face guy and you know like you're having a lose to pop and I'm not trying to suspect pop but really in the death writers he's the third guy in the death writers you probably have mox and Claudio and then pop and then you know you to hang our see in that kind of order that in the packing order and you're like Darby supposed to be one of your top baby faces and you're having a lose to the third ranked guy in the death writers.

19:34 That's kind of odd to me. Well there's a lot of interesting like interweaving here so pop Darby I agree with you like I don't understand why in 2025 Darby Allen wasn't booked like Kylo Riley was I get Sean moxley I'm not even asking for like dominance but to your point I think everybody kind of gets that vibe that. Similarly hangman out of page when they launched AW was that this is time for Darby to be one of the guys in the company and I would have. Ventured a guess he would have had a AW world champion Chipper on this year if you know on January 1st you're like. Do you think Darby becomes AW world champion would be like absolutely you probably defeats John moxley and becomes a super over baby face for the company it hasn't been that way his.

20:22 His return was nice then his feud with moxley he struggled and he finally got the win and then he comes out of the win and then he takes another loss to pop and it's like I don't. Get the reason there then in the same sense parallel wise they're booking Kylo Riley so dominant against John moxley like it's come out of nowhere I like it I love it I'm huge fan of Kylo Riley. But I can't I don't know where and I would have preferred to see Darby get that shine that Kyle is getting right now. And then the Samoa Joe hangman out of page stuff it makes me really wonder dr. Trey that I don't know of AW or Tony con knows how to book a baby face as a world champion.

21:05 Because I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here I don't know if the Swarp injury or the will us brain injury kind of screwed things up for Adam page and coming out of all in against moxley I don't know if mjf he was a I mean they they had a match and then he went down on a few with Mark brisco then he went away because I think he's filming something I don't know if the filming schedule of mjf got in the way. But I mean we talked about here on the podcast where AW essentially needed to turn some Ojo to heal to give Adam page someone to feud with and that's what they did I did not think it was going to lead to another Samo Joe world championship run love Samo Joe think he's great but I would have loved to see hangman and page get another victory and sure as shit you know give me page versus Swarp again as baby faces in December world's end let them feud again I don't care maybe this one's built on respect rather than burning houses and putting a syringe in each other's mouth.

22:05 It's it's for the most part I've been very happy content with AW and when I look here in less than a month's time when we talk about and do our award show I think AW is really in the discussion for promotion of the year I really do I think it's been a nice bounce back year but there is booking that they do that is confusing and I think this show while it was booked very well and was a very entertaining show and I loved how they booked it going into it as well coming out of it there's more questions than there are answers and it's not the questions that are like I can't wait to see how Wednesday turns out and watch dynamite I think it's more like what is AW doing with their booking.

22:52 Yeah because now you have you know the ops as a big he'll stable you have the don call his family is big he'll stable you have the death writers floating around and then you have I mean you have your big smash a baby faces but yeah to your points like like something mox and I love that Kyle's getting a push but it doesn't make sense to me that Kyle still not positioned as a main event baby face even with these wins I think people are still kind of think it looking almost like it's for the first time. You know and then me we have Darby like I said losing to the third member of the death writers you have hangman losing to to Joe and you're just like it's weird because the baby faces that you think should be going over or not and the ones that are probably shouldn't be but like I love your point I don't really I mean really guys like hangman to a degree Cody they're kind of I mean Cody's baby what I want the few baby faces that's better as the champ than in the chase but some of these guys like hangman even swerve to a degree even punk like sometimes they're better as a baby face in chase mode and not champion because they almost feel like they have to water them down a little bit as the champion of the company in the face of the company you have to kind of water that edge down that kind of makes the popular on the climb. I mean really like in the last 20 years like how many like great baby face champions can you think of where you're like I'm in on this entire run of this guy's a baby face because usually we get sick of those guys when they're constantly winning so it's kind of hard to book baby face champions because you kind of want the good guy chasing the bad guy get the win get screwed over and then get on the chase again

24:47 that's just typically how wrestling's gone outside of the the Hogan run of the 80s has always been baby face chases gets a win short rain back on the chase well Steve Austin as much as I love screwed everything up on the late 90s there he'll persona baby face super over kind of screwed everything up where your clean cut baby face is not going to be as over as they were when it was Hulk Hogan macho man warrior Shawn Michaels bright heart whatever that you know white meat baby face there was I do believe there have been instances where it has worked I think Cody Rhodes is a case where it has work that they see a punk I think some people would argue and say that he's a tweener.

25:33 He certainly not that clean cut baby face I think the other one that immediately pops into mind for me is Daniel Bryan back in 2014 had that run where where that's what say yes that that's the you know that the Brian Danes it was the chase like once he won the title I mean he got hurt and lost and they took the belt off of them not too long after like most of them yeah he got injured but we don't really I don't know if we would ever we don't really know how that would it's earned out right in that very small part it was not successful but I would argue and I would say that Cody's run with both times his champion and I agree with you yeah I think we were all about the chase I think even coming out of it I think he's done a good job where people aren't turning on him and giving him the let's go see a scene of sucks chance yet I mean seen as another was guys that you know with the first couple title runs people were on it and then by the time he got to like year 10 we were like all right super seen as you know it's kind of getting everybody's Cody just has the look he has the knowledge like he just is that kind of face of the company kind of guy I don't know if hangman because you got like the whole build to get to this was hangman having that edge and the cowboy shit and just like I don't know if those guys that played those type of like rough around the edges characters really good good long title runs because they kind of feel like they do kind of water them down a little bit just to kind of fit a narrative in a sense and and

27:04 that's why I think swarves title run wasn't as long as we would like you know a few others it is kind of hard to book just a white meat baby face champion you brought up Austin Austin had the the advantage of having the boss of the company be his main adversary so that guy was always throwing these crazy obstacles for him to overcome to hold on to the belt when you don't have somebody throw crazy obstacles at a baby face champion is kind of hard to do kind of stand there side because then you do enter super seen among yeah yeah then it becomes water down and it's not an enjoyable product at that part at that point a w is a lot to maneuver and hopefully they have a plan place you would hope by the way that they've made these decisions that they do because to your point now multiple major factions death writers donk family ops. You can't all be heels, someone's got to turn babyface, is it possible that this whole thing with Moxley is leading to him returning to the babyface. And let's say, you know, you bring a puck like the way that their booking him is quite strange, could puck lead the charge on the death riders to turn their backs on John Moxley. Because this is how it always plays out.

28:14 At some point, you know, the the stable turns on one another. I think you're on the verge of seeing that with the Don Calis family and Antiquechka. Like that's how this eventually happens. Could that be happening with the death riders? And you know, I called Hangman page earlier, like I feel like he he's kind of like a transitional champion. I don't think there's no one more than a transitional champion in a W World Championship history than Samoa Joe. Because Joe took the title off MJF and then dropped it to Swarth Strickland. And I love Joe. I don't think he should be a transitional champion. I think Hangman page should be. But I think that that's what this is setting up for is him being here again, being World Champion that he's going to eventually drop the title, maybe in the next three to four months. I don't think this is a long title run. Unfortunately, who is the next person he drops it to? Is it Swarth again? If Swarth's healthy and 100% absolutely. I think he's back.

29:08 Yeah, I think I mean, like I said, he's no it's either is I mean, because what will still about what five months away from coming back? There's rumbling that he may be back in the first year. You're got to hope now. I hope he's 100% healthy. He may be a freakishly healthy or freakishly fast recovery guy. But yeah, even but then even then when you look at it, okay, well, if you have Hangman, you have if if the death writers turn on Mox, let's say Mox is a baby phase and then you have Swarth and you know Kyle or I just get this big push. You got a bunch of baby faces to challenge. So maybe that makes the the run enjoyable. To me, though, it's kind of got to be Swarth because I think a lot of people feel short-changed by that first run. And I mean, you heard the reaction.

30:01 Although I don't know about you. I did not like the new music. No, same. Yeah, it was like it doesn't match not as dance and we need not a dancing to kind of help elevate it to. But yeah, like I think people felt short-changed by Swarth's first run and it would be ironic for Joe to lose the belt twice to the same guy. True. So it's it's like who'd they drop it to? I'd love to see Okada get a run. I think the fact that Okada has a gun of run as he had a world champion at this point is is surprising as well. That's why I think they probably put a title on him. I would love a Swarth Okada feud. And like in you know, Swarth gets the cows family just in general then Takeshka turns and joins you a baby face side. But you know, the the promos of just Okada just muttering stuff in Japanese then looking at Swarth and not just yelling out bitch and walking away would be great. And it's my the content of the classic might be a way for them to get that belt off Okada to move Okada up to main event level as well. I do think Takeshka is going to be turning sooner rather than later, but I certainly hear you there. All right, so with that said keep it up with some of Joe Dr. Trey. I thought this statistic was really insane. For the first time since 2008, Samoa Joe and CM Punk are world champion Simon Tainesley here in 2025. That was 17 years ago. And if you're like me, Dr. Trey, you may fall in this as well. I used to read PWInsider 1Ressing.com. I used to read all the Indie shows results. I didn't watch if we didn't have YouTube then. And I would read the ROH

31:36 results and you know, we see Samoa Joe CM Punk on the Indie scene. So these are like guys that I literally grew up on. With that said, here we are in 2025. Which two wrestlers are likely to be world champions that are wrestling now 17 years from now in 2042. So in 2042, who is going to be the Samoa Joe and CM Punk that will be Simon Tainesley world champions and today it could be male or female. Can I take Javie on Evans? Because he's 21. It is 17 years. He'll only be 38. Like in 17 years, Jeff, he will be younger than you and I are now. That to me blows me away. I mean, this is then that kid just had a really banger match with Gunther. Not too long ago. I appreciate you saying that. Thank you so much. Yes. I'm trying to think of younger than we are right now. That's fantastic. Thank you. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving, Javie.

32:37 I'll take Kyle Fletcher. I think Kyle could be one of those guys that's around in 20 years as long as he kind of maybe modifies his style a little bit. I don't know if Braun Breaker will be around in 17 years. I don't know. Maybe Dom. Dom's under 30. So even 20 or 17 years from now, he'll still be in his early to mid 40s. So that's what I'm just trying to. I'm trying to think of like timeline and wise of guys who you know love wrestling. Maybe can't do anything else outside of wrestling. It will kind of linger around forever because I mean, Braun Breaker, I mean, he's already 26 or 27.

33:19 So that would put him in his mid 40s as well. But I just think with the family legacy and I think as much as he'll make in the short term, I don't because I look at Braun Breaker. I'm like, that guy could also have been action movie star in the mid 20 30s. Like the physique, the build, the promo ability, like he's raised around entertainment. He may not be around in 15 years. Bronson Reed, I think I think the injuries will take a toll on him. Logan Paul's already in his 30s. So that would put him almost 15 or 17 years. There's gonna be a world championship run for Logan Paul. Somebody's right over some wrestling fans brain just exploded. If you don't think WWE is not the trucker way to make Logan Paul World champion capitalized on this, you're missing the both.

34:07 They are an entertainment company. So I agree with you on Braun and Dom. Those would be my picks. I love the Kyle Fletcher pick. Can I add another duo? Sure. Reigns and Lesnar. Robert's Reigns. I was just looking for a reaction. I gotta be honest. It's like 17 years from now, we hear that music hit and we're like, up another Brock payday. Here we go. No, I have Brock in 17 years comes out, the music hits and he comes out and he does that fall. Like what happened on Monday night, he'll break it up. That was some all-timer. He sold it well. Gotta give him props.

34:47 Was that Braun Breaker right there when he came to the... I didn't see who he put the cat. It was Braun Breaker. It was Braun Breaker, yes. And then the cowboy had disappeared because... Heyman was holding it. It's funny you say that because I was actually watching for that. And Heyman was holding along with the, I think Brock's Vest to close out. All right, so feel free to chime in. I thought that was wild to see Samojo, CM Punk, in 2008, World Champion, here we are in 2025, there, World Champions. I think if you told us back in 2008, is that a possibility we wouldn't believe it, but here it is. It is. So what are two wrestling stars that could be World Champions today that we could see in 17 years from now in 2042? Keeping with AW Doctor Trey, the 2025 AW Continental Classic field is set. The blue league will feature Kenosuke Takashka, John Moxley, Claudio Kasignoly, Orange Cassidy, Roderick Strong and Masquerade Dorada. So we get a Moxley Claudio match at some point in the blue league. The gold league will have Darby Allen, Pock, Kevin Knight, Speedball Mike Bailey, Kyle Fletcher and Kazuchka O'Cotta. So we get an O'Cotta Fletcher match at some point. Fletcher versus Pock, which will be badass. Dr. Trey, your thoughts on the field and who is your favorite to be in the Continental Classic finals? It's really interesting the way they put this together because not only do you get, you can, not only do you get the match, you also get Speedball against Kevin Knight. There's groups together Takashka, I mean,

36:22 as you know, O'Cotta and Fletcher be great, Mike Bailey and Kevin Nile be great. Some of these matchups of friend versus friend will be really interesting. Claudio and Mox, because I originally thought they had Pock in the blue league also and Masquerade Dorado in the gold league because I thought that would be how you do it. Starting to the breakup of the Death Riders is that either Pock or Claudio end up beating Moxley in this and then they all turn on him. So my pick to win the whole thing is Takeshita because I'd the comment that Don Callas said about O'Cotta being the greatest tournament wrestler of all time after Takeshita won the G1. It kind of makes me feel like they foreshadowed that Takeshita might win this whole thing. So that's kind of who I'm leaning towards right now at least. Yeah, I'm with you. I think that this is being set up for Takashka, O'Cotta finals at World's End. But can you do the like how does it so is it the top four and then semi final matches like the top two of the goal league, the top two of the blue league. So last year what they did was I think it was like the top four seats. I think it was the top two and the blue league went one on one and then the top two and the gold league went one on one in the semi's and then they had the the finals to crown the eventual winner. I'm just taking a look here as to how that worked

37:53 in 2024. How they do that. Yeah, because to me, like that, yeah, I agree that I think they're setting up O'Cotta to Keshton the Founts. But I'm still confused because isn't O'Cotta the international champion? O'Cotta is the unified champion. I mean, that's what we we were talking about last week, right? So they still call it the continental classic. But he's the unified champion, which is the continental title in the international title merged together. So does that mean whoever wins the classic is is the international title not on the line on this and we made up a two belts out of this again. Dr. Tray, I don't work at AW. I'd be nice if I did. I don't I don't know the full details on that.

38:36 I got to be honest with you and I haven't watched the YouTube video. I just saw the field that was set. But to answer the original question, 2024 last year at World's End, they did the semis. So the leader and the blue league Kyle Fletcher defeated, excuse me, lost to Will Osprey who was second in the gold league. And then the one seed in the gold league lost to the two seed in the blue league, which was O'Cotta. And then O'Cotta defeated Osprey and the championship final in 2024. That's why they did it last year. Let's see here. What is Wikipedia saying? So, tournament matches are held under continental rules. We'll feature a 20 minute time limit with no one allowed at rings out and outside interference strictly prohibited. The prize of the tournament is the AW Continental Championship. So that's I don't know. I don't know. Because you're right. They haven't clarified that yet. So I think Wikipedia is just using last year's stuff. Yeah. I apologize that we don't have that. So if there's people that are listening that are screaming at their radios, air pods would have you my apologies. And if you're screaming at us, I'm sorry because they haven't clarified it to anybody else. So if you think you know more than us without AW clarifying this, then you should be working for AW because it's still unclear. But no, I kind of him.

39:57 It's insane. So my while you're looking at that, I would say my final four will be O'Cotta Fletcher to Keshe and Mox. That's my final four that I would go with. Yeah. Blue league had to go to Keshe, Moxley as well. Gold league, O'Cotta. You know, I'd love to see Pock in there. If they do, but then they might do two against two. Well, see no because you kind of, if you're going to do that, I would want because Pock feels like a whole different energy. But he's always super intense. I do feel like if they do make a change in the death rise, it'd be Pock coming out as the leader of the group. Just because he's he seems to be better. He's still better on the micro from the Claudio. But then how do you get that breakup if you're doing one verse? Because that would have Mox winning the blue league. And then to catch the finishing second. And if you do one versus two, then you get O'Cotta to Keshe and the semi-finals. So it's interesting. That was my math on it, where if like Mox finished his second, the blue league, then you could have O'Cotta and Mox and then to Keshe and Fletcher and the semi-finals. And then O'Cotta and to Keshe and the finals. Yeah. Yeah. They get has to get to Keshe, to Keshe, O'Cotta and the finals. So I think you do to Keshe versus Fletcher semi. O'Cotta Moxley, that'd be banger. And then O'Cotta, especially if you have O'Cotta beat Moxley in the first match in semi-finals. And then to Keshe to Beats Fletcher,

41:29 then you could have O'Cotta jump to Keshe to afterwards leading to Keshe's baby face turn, at the finals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'd be cool. So yeah, really looking forward to it. Kicks off by the timing list in the show, depending on when you get it, it'll kick off on Thanksgiving Eve on Dynamite. Wikipedia saying that it's the finals for the AWA Continental Championship. So we need clarity, Tony. And we need it now because this is very confusing because I'm with you. Then it's like great. So now we have another championship. So the unified championship is no more and Continental International are back great. That's what we need. Another title. And then is it Continental North America, but the national title is just America? You know, it's funny. You bring this up because you said earlier in the show that they put the world champion, they put the world championship on one of their trios champions. And I was like, I totally forgot about that. Yeah. I literally said to myself, I was like, fuck, I forgot about that. I forgot about it until I saw the Hangman Shabbata match. And I was like, wait, what belt is Shabbata have? Because a Joe had a belt. Oh, wait, wait, does everybody, like you get a belt? You get a belt. It also like you're walking into like wrestle cater, something and everybody's walking around the belt. It's like, wait, so it's almost like Oprah, Oprah showed up at AWA. You get a belt. You get a belt. You get a belt. You get a belt. Roderick, no, you had it for five minutes. Forget it. You don't get a belt. So there you go. Stay tuned

43:00 more Continental Classic all taking place in AWA. This Saturday on ESPN, Dr. Trey will be WWE Survivor Series War Games from Petco Park in San Diego, California. Let's get into a Dr. Trey. Our preview and predictions. Let's start with the first match here. Stephanie Valkyrie Defends. The women's world championship against Nikki Bella, Dr. Trey. Who do you like in this one? I mean, I like everybody because they're both very pretty. But oh, you mean to win the match? Sorry. Yeah, the match. Sorry. Sorry. I'm going to go with Stephanie. Just I'm going to go Stephanie to kind of pad the resume that she has a win over a WWE Hall of Famer. So I'll go with Stephanie in this one. I'm going to take Nikki Bella. I think Bri Bella gets involved in Helps her because I think you do this heel turn. And if she goes into this match and loses, then it's like, why did you do the heel turn? Like what's next for her? Is there a follow up? Is it going to be? It's not going to be at Saturday Night's Main Event because those are WWE versus NXT matches. So then when's the next round? Is it going to be on Raw? Like I feel like they got to do something when Nikki Bella now being that she's turned heel. So I'm taking Nikki. Dr. Trey's taking Stephanie Valkyrie. Next match, here's John Cena defending the Intercontinental Championship against Dominic Mysterio. Dr. Trey, I'm going to go with the hometown boy. I am taking Dominic Mysterio on this one.

44:16 Are you taking Dom with the help of the entire judgment? It kind of feels like you may need everybody in this one. Yeah, it's weird because you kind of want Cena heading into his last match on an upswing, but I don't think you make this title run this title turn unless you're going to put the belt back on Dom. So I'm with you. I'm taking Dom with, I guess the, maybe this is John's way of paying back a ray for only letting him have like an hour and a half world title run. >>Exactly. And I think John wants to put over Dominic Mysterio because he hears so much like glowing reviews over Dominic Mysterio that John Cena's been having during all these interviews, leading up to his retirement. Now it's the women's war game match. You got rear-ripply EOS guy, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair, and AJ Lee taking on NIJAC's last legend, Oscar, Kyrie Sain, and Becky Lynch. Dr. Trey, who do you like in this one? >>I'm taking the baby face girls. I'm taking Rhea, EO, Alexa, Charlotte, and AJ because no offense, they just look like a stronger team than the EO team. And maybe in that regard, the EO team should get the win, but like, I mean, Oscar and Kyrie, I don't think anybody puts them on the same level as the other five of the other women in the match and they're the top two people. Becky's the only one on the level in people's minds of Rhea, EO, Alexa, Charlotte, and AJ Lee. And so I just feel like it's a little one-sided. So I'm going to take the the baby face girls getting the win at war games. >>Yeah, I agree with you. I think if there's a baby

45:47 face team that's going to win at women in the war games, I think the easiest choice is rear-ripply EOS guy, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte, Flair, and AJ Lee. So I liked Dr. Trey. I am taking the baby faces to win this match. And then that takes us to the men's war game match, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, J.U. So, Jimmy Uso, and Roman Reigns taking on Braun Breaker, Bronson Reed, Logan Paul, Drew McAttire, and Brock Lesnar sidebar. If we're confused about the continental classic or the continental championship, Dr. Trey, I'm confused whether or not Logan Paul is part of the vision because he's announced that the vision. Then he's like friends with the vision. So I'm confused by that, but I digress. I'm going to take the heels. I'm taking Braun, Bronson, Logan, Drew, and Brock Lesnar because the way I look at it is I think there's one person that could take the L on this match. And unfortunately, that is Jimmy Uso, the same person who took the L on Monday's Raw. I don't know who takes a loss on the heel side. And I think it makes more sense for the heels to win than the baby faces because there's more storylines that could come out of that that are more entertaining and more intriguing to close out 2025. So I'm taking the heels. Braun Breaker, Bronson, Reed, Logan, Baldr, McAttire, and Brock Lesnar, Dr. Trey. So sidebar, I meant to ask you on the last match, is the re-a-team the most star-studded female team in Survivor Series history?

47:03 We've mentioned about the guys. Yeah, I think it is when you look at it now. Yeah, I just, I was like, I always stare to the names. I'm like, that's pretty loaded. Yeah, that's why I was like, there's like really maybe a Lexus, the only one that could really take a loss. Maybe EO, but on the other side, you could pin four of the five and nobody would bet a night. So, but the men's match, I'm with you. I'm taking the vision plus Drew, or I mean, Brock's affiliated with Paul Heyman. I mean, he's holding his hat in his vest. I mean, and coming out with him at the end of the show. So, I mean, maybe it's the vision plus like an older hunkel that helps him.

47:46 I don't know how you break that down, but yeah, to me, like the vision need this win because you lost Seth. You don't really have a leader, but this gives you guys credibility. And unfortunately, like you're right, Jimmy's probably the most logical choice to take the loss, but I think the interesting one would be if Jay took the loss because we had all that rumbling about a month and a half ago when we thought he might turn heel. You know, do we see Roman berating him if he loses in this match as Survivor Series? So, I'm taking the heels because I think the dynamics coming out and like you said are way more interesting if they win than if Roman Cody and punk win. Absolutely. I think that there's just more to play with. They could carry storylines for the rest of 2025 and then into 2026 because this is this is kind of like one of those unofficial starts to WrestleMania season. I think this is where you start to see some seeds planted and lead to some intrigue and we saw that last year with punk being on the bloodline team and with that lead to WrestleMania. And I think you see it this Saturday as well. So, so our series War Games this Saturday from Petco Park in San Diego, California. Really looking to that one forward to that one and it's unfortunate. Rey Mysterio doesn't get a match in this. I don't know how that happened. None of the last Star Trek before we close up shop on this week's edition of SRTU like IT's on last week's edition of the show. The holiday schedule has been released. It starts on December 18th. Episode number 827. We will have our 2025 Wrestling recap special. We will also recap Saturday nights main event. John Cena's final match on that episode episode number 828 for December 25th on Christmas

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