Tony Khan, We Have A Problem! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #765 – 10/10/24

0:00 It's still Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition It's Still Real does Show episode number seven and sixty five for October tenth, twenty twenty four. This year, w W Bad Blood Recap in a W. Russell Green Preview and predictions edition of ass R Team You, I am one half of the show. I am Jeff Peck, joined every single week my host one only, doctor Trey Franklin.

0:42 Doctor Trey. Did we see a Match of the Year candidate this past weekend? My friend? Oh, I mean that niat Jack's Bailey match was pretty smoking, So I mean it's it's gotta be up. There, jeffs I was talking about Rhea and Live, but I guess I will digress from that. Welcome one and all to this week's edition of SRTU. I am Jeff Peck, Doctor Trey. Over there, Bad Blood Recap and review. We'll talk a little bit about some of the business model that WWE has been doing as of late during pl weekends. AW has a major problem on its hand, and it comes all from a former rival of theirs. Now and of course, we will preview and predict a W. Russell Dream taking place this Saturday from Tacoma, Washington, Doctor Trey.

1:29 Let's start with Bad Blood. It was this past Saturday from the State Farm Marine and Atlanta, Georgia. Before we begin with each match here, this felt like a bigger than normal pay per view. Yeah, I mean, this is I guess because there a b pay per view, but I mean you look at the I'm gonna say the co main events. That's some SummerSlam quality matches right there. So yeah, it felt bigger. They hyped it up bigger. I mean a lot of the stuff about the history of Blood coming into play, like they did a really good job of making this feel like much, you know, way more than a Great Balls of Fire Part two.

2:09 Yeah, this they had legends there, They had segments with the legends as well. Is that something WWE needs to do more often during these pls. I don't think we have a main roster PLD now until Survivor series, But is this something that we need to see in between the Big four or five that we does. We do have Crown Jewel November Sex. You're right, absolutely forgot about that. One, so we do have that one. But you know, I read some stuff from DDP, who was featured at Bad Blood and he said that he's excited because the current regime is kind of playing into legend stuff. They're they like he said, they were backstage people were giving them respect and you know, treating them with dignity in class, which wasn't always the case in years past. You know, I'm a big proponent of it because as I get older and as you get older, like these are some of the people that we grew up watching, but they're also the ones who paved the way for this current generation. Like we have a fondness for Attitude Era. I have a fondness for like mid eighties, late eighties wrestling, and that's kind of who you see featured.

3:24 And you know, a lot of our heroes have passed on. So when I get to see it Arn Anderson and a totally Blanchard, and I hear Corey Graves gush about the Brainbusters, you know, it makes my heart feel good when you see a DDP, when you see XPOT, when you see those guys out there, you're like, man, like, some of that stuff is just fantastic. And you look at a guy like DDP, who was not. Treated very well during his time in WWE, but was fantastic in WCW. See him get that respect from you know, the Triple H regime, it just it it's really good for you know, the diehard wrestling fan in me. Yeah, you know, I read the same comments from DDP. It was I think he put it out there on a tweet. I've never known WWE, even in the previous regime led by Vince to being like jerks to the legends.

4:15 Maybe it was specific legends, maybe guys that came from WW that was a little bit different, which DDP alludes to in his comment. So I was surprised to see those comments overall. But it does feel like in a lot of different levels that Triple H and the current regime are doing everything they can to write every single wrong that the previous administration had, to make it more of a welcoming company both inside and outside, internally and externally. And it's another element as to why it feels like which we'll talk about later on the show. We is really stretching the gap between them and AW and the United States right now.

4:57 Yeah, I mean. In ring and this is the year and I have talked about many, many times over the last five years, and ringwise, AW probably beats WWE a lot of the time, but it's all the ancillary or you know, ancillary stuff around it that is what is causing this this chasm between WWE and AW I mean, you go back three years, it was getting close. You know, the gap was pretty narrow, and it just feels like, you know, ever since Triple Ah took over, like thet it's been all gas, no break for WWE, and they're just stretching this stuff out, and you know it's like AEW sometimes can't get out of their own way. So it's just you know, I mean, aaw' has always been has been good to their legends.

5:47 You know, when Stein comes in and Flair came in, a lot of those guys came in too. I mean, the hell they've had Brett Hart. I mean, they've had DDP, Like they've had like a lot of these guys. And for some reason though, it's just everybody kind of matriculates back to WWE and now they're being treated on a different level, I guess, or just made to feel more welcome and more home. And a lot of that probably is because of Triple Agent. The fact that you know, he grew up a fan of wrestling, got into wrestling looked up to a lot of these guys, or worked with a lot of these guys. Why wouldn't you treat your peers and your heroes with respect, where maybe the previous administration just looked at them as kind of employees. You know, there's a different context, you know to it now as opposed to years past.

6:35 Yeah, I've never understood some of that stuff, where like the previous regime would would kind of ghost legends or be upset if a legend appeared in TNA or AW depending on the year of activity. It just seemed very strange to me. So that was a huge point coming out of Bad Blood. Like the overall vibe of the show top to bottom was like this, this is a big deal, ple and I did not get any of that vibe going into it. I was like, this is feeling like in the same equivalency as a SummerSlam or Royal Rumble survivor series of WrestleMania. Probably not to the degree of a WrestleMania or a SummerSlam per se, but it was a lot of hype around it, and I'm like, this could be something that they do all the time.

7:17 It does not need to be just you know one show once in a while, because maybe they're trying to impress the city of Atlanta to run another WrestleMania there, which Cody alluded to towards the end of the night once in I think the dark segment as the show closed. So, I mean, Atlanta does have a lot of great wrestling history. Maybe that has a lot to do with it. WCW that was their home for the longest time. I don't know. I thought it was just very very interesting. I'm like, man, they are really putting a lot of care and time into a show that well, there were some great builds. I just never looked at it as like this is a big deal ple for we, So let's get into it here, doctor Trey. They kicked off the show with c I'm Punk defeating Drew McIntyre and Hell in a cell match. You and I both had see them punk in this one heck of a finale for a really great feud. This match out at all. It had violent storytelling and emotion. Amazing job by both men over the last ten months, and with the three matches that took place during this feud, each match got better and I am sad to see this feud conclude because it was so damn good. I felt like Punkin McIntyre should have taken about the end of this one for the feud.

8:24 But they put together this past year. Keep in mind ten months feuding, like seven of them were spent with one or both of them on the shelf, and then three matches since SummerSlam. Tremendous, tremendous job by both men here, doctor for the last ten months of entertainment and a great feud. Your thoughts on the Hell in a Cell match? I mean, I'll first of all, go with the feud. The feud itself was fantastic. I mean it's you know, to me, there's two feuds of the year as we get towards the end of the year, and this one's right there with you know, hang Man and Swerve, and in this one probably maybe has slightly ahead of it, you know, just kind of in the tail end of twenty twenty four. But like this match, to me, this is like the old school Helena Cel kind of matchups like we've gotten I don't know, I don't know if Helena Cell has gotten soft over the years, but you know, you go back to this stuff with like Seth and the fiend and maybe Randy Orton and Jeff Hardy and I mean they've been okay, but I mean this was like violence on the level of like you know, Undertaker mankind Undertaker and Edge, like the Shawn Michaels Triple h ones, like this is up there with those. It's like, man, I I this was just an incredible match, some good storytelling, but the violence, the brutality, I mean, stuff like that.

9:45 That's that's the stuff that we that we've missed in pro wrestling, especially when it makes sense. This isn't you know, Cody running into a wall at aw for no reason. It's put his head opened like this. The violence in this made sense, and that that's what always made you know, guys, I guess love the azwd Errs goes Hey, it's super violent and it makes sense. And these two guys. Blurred that line of you know, work and shoot into like do they really hate each other as much? Because you got to really trust. The other guy you're working with to go to that level of violence, and if you hate some but it's kind of hard to trust them. So just a phenomenal job by these two guys showing them why they're two of the best performers in wrestling today.

10:27 I feel like we talked about it one time on the podcast that like did Hell and Hassel jump the Shark because it felt like they you know, they do it once a year basically at this point, and you know, you've seen it all. And I felt like, similar to you that with this match. While there obviously obviously are spots that we've seen before, it just had a different feel and vibe around it. And I don't know if that was the build I certainly played a major part in it. The match itself, like it just had a different feel to all in a cell match that we as fans have not connected with in some time. Yeah, I mean with this whole thing was you know created.

11:08 It was supposed to be like the ultimate way to end a rivalry, like there was no escape, Like this is just brutality for brutality, and you know, you go back to you know, even Shawn Michaels undertaking some these other ones that through the years, like they were like big blowoffs to feuds and then over the last few years. I mean to me, it was right around the time that they actually made the Payer review about it. But the Red, the Red Helena Cell. That was bad. Cemented me for it. I mean they were chanting aed up at the end of that one. Yeah, you know, it was just like, dear God, it was just so bad. But and it did kind of jump the shark, so to speak, especially because they weren't really using it any other so I think they only used it one other time. I think they use it at a WrestleMania was that Shane and Undertaker WrestleMania was that Helena Cell that.

11:59 Was And they have used it in the past WrestleMania as well for often forgotten match. You know, but it's it's one of those things where it's like, you know, for years, it was you know, in the early days of it, it was we have to settle this feud. It is a blood feud. We need to settle this and move on. And that was the way you did it. And you know, over the years it's like, oh, we'll just do it at you know. At Helena Cel. We'll just have a pay per view and it's two or three Helena Seale matches and you know, but then we hardly ever see it anymore. It's like, man, it's better like this where it's kind of sprinkled in to kind of settle a rivalry as opposed to just having it as you know, a pay per view gimmick, much like the way TLC was done over the years.

12:40 Two questions free. I think the first one's really easy. Not too sure where you're going to land on this one, because it also may be tipping your hand. I'm certainly tipping my hand. First question, is Doctor Trey end a year. It's about eight weeks away here we'll have our award show spectacularly closed out twenty twenty four, which is mind blowing to say out loud. When we discuss feud of the Year? Is this punk drumactar feud? And I laugh when I say this because I think it's an easy question. Is it a major candidate in that category? Yeah, I was saying earlier to me, there's two feuds of the year. This is one of them, and then Swerve and Hangman is the other one. So it's one of the top two.

13:21 And then I don't know about this one. You're ready Match of the Year candidate? Does this match fall into a match that we discussed at the end of the year when it comes to Match of the year. I think it will just because like there's I don't I don't know if you can say that there is some memorable moments in this match as far as like I can't believe I just saw that. Maybe the Toolbox headshots, you know, is one of them. But like as I sit here five days posted, I can't remember other than the finish and the Toolbox shots, Like I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe I saw that. But I remember the feeling I get, and I remember the brutality of.

14:01 It, so that puts it. You know, It's in my conversation for Match of the Year. I don't know if it is the match of the year yet, but it's in the conversation at least. And then bonus questionaire because it's the one that just came into my hat. Compare this second chapter of cmpunk the return professional wrestling that started in aw How does this feud in match with Drew McIntyre. Matches with Drew McIntyre compare to the stuff that he did in All wrestling previously coming back to. WWA, this feud is the best thing he's done since he's returned to wrestling. This match is probably up there with the MJF Dog color match, but the run itself.

14:44 I mean, this is. If you want CM Punk and you want the good Cmpunk, this is the rivalry to kind of showcase it because it had you know, some I mean. He's not the wrestler he was ten years ago. I think we can all agree with that. He's still pretty good, but a lot of that match that we saw was kind of like, oh, it's the you know, it's the best hits of CM Punk in this match. Hits the knee in the corner of the running bulldog, it's the little neck breaker he does. It's kind of those things. He's not the technical. We saw the Anacon device. There you go, there's another one. I remember, he's not the technical wrestler he was ten years ago when he left WW eleven years ago.

15:25 Ever long it's been. Uh, he's still pretty good, but this is if you're signing CM Punk. This is what you would show to people and say, hey, we're signing this guy. And I don't think AW ever really capitalized on it. And in part of it was Punk's fault. Maybe Punk was trying to do too much and that's why he kept getting hurt in AW which would then short change some of those rivalries. But you know, really, this is the best rivalry we've had in wrestling that this in Swerving and Hayman in quite some time, because it's gone on so long and it feels so personal. But this is the best we've seen of Seam Punkin in a decade. I would say, ever since Brawl Out with Punk there has been some doubt in regards to his innring ability, his longevity. Does he still have it? And he found it again during these last three matches with Drew McIntyre.

16:16 I thought this was like, Okay, there is that old sampunk still in there. What's really cool about the entire thing is when he came back to we eleven months ago now, the immediate thought from everyone was, all right, we're going to get the punk Rollin stuff. It was everything that you thought. It was everything that you read, It was everything that you thought what we were going to see once you were watching television, and certainly feels that way from what we saw on RAW this past Monday night, that that is the direction now coming out of this as well. Even though there were some rumblings of punkin Gunther coming up here as well. To me, this was never on my radar a feud with Dream McIntyre. I was like, this is never on my radar and became so organic, and it became so much fun, and it became so much entertaining, and you really felt like these two guys legitimately hate each other and it's possibly true who knows with professional wrestling. Then I was like, man, this is tough that we just don't get to see and feel and experience anymore. So organic, so much fun, so much entertainment. Major major props to both guys, and I hope this leads to bigger and brighter things for them.

17:15 Here to close up twenty twenty four and WWII and also head into the restu Mainting forty one season in the early part of twenty twenty five. Let's get to the next match here. Doctor Trey Nijacks defeats Bailey to retain the WA Women's Championship. We both at Nia Jackson this one. I thought this Ni Bailey match was much better than their SmackDown match excuse me, SummerSlam match again. My only concern is where does Bailey go from here? I feel like she maybe do for a breakof of TV for a bit to refresh your character or maybe give her one of those refresh runts and antics. Now that they are on the CW network and you've got some really good talent in the women's division down there, the slow build and character development of Tiffany Stratton as of laid has been really good. However, I think I like the NXT version of Tiffany over this current SmackDown version of Tiffy time. I like the leader uh slash, don't give a crap about other people Tiffany on NXT and not the SmackDown version where she's she's afraid of Nia Jackson takes a back seat. It's obviously leading to something big as wc's something in Trapp which makes a lot of sense, Doctor Trey your thoughts and this one is Nijack's retains.

18:17 Yeah, much better than their summer slam match. Uh Naya did a hur knrona jeff Or tried like like, I'm kind of blown away by that. Like that it was one of the craziest things. I like. I give her credit for trying, because how didn't know that she I thought she was kind of I thought she had live with a Domino. Where she was kind of afraid of heights. But the hell she pulled that, she tried to pull it off, so I give her credit for it. Yeah, Like this match was fine, Like, but you're right, Like, what do you do with Bailey? Now? Who's the next person to challenge Naya? Because SmackDown kind of has a gap in talent. It's similar to the stuff with Cody Rose that we've talked about in the past, Like who's the next person to step up here? Because you've kind of ran through the two top baby faces you had in Naomi and Bailey here maybe as as an Osca return, but she's might she's on raw, Like I just I'm unsure unless you turn Tiffany baby face and I'm with you, like, I like, excuse me, I like the arrogant cocky I run the show to Tiffany better than this one.

19:25 But once again, Nya jacks is huge. Who wouldn't be afraid of getting, you know, cornered by Nia Jackson getting splashed? Like I'd be a little leery of that as well, So I get the character. I do just like the NXT version a little bit better as well. Yeah, it's you bring up a great point, like where does ni go from here? Because I feel like, if you're going to execute the Tiffany strat and stuff, you're doing it now. Obviously there's a little bit of a buffer here for Nia Jacks because she is going into a match with Live Morgan at Crown Jewel for the Crown Jewel Champ Chip, which we'll talk about here in just a few moments as well, So there is a little bit of a gap that can kind of continue to space out, maybe the slow burn of Tiffany Stratton becoming a babyface. But if you're not gonna put Naomi in that role, Bailey has been that role way too much.

20:15 Bianca and Jade are with the tag team division right now. It's it felt like to me with the whole Queen of the Ring stuff with Nia Jax, that this is gonna be leading to the return of Charlotte Flair. But it seems like she that is more of a twenty twenty five thing than late twenty twenty four because of her injury. It was so extensive and it's gonna take a lot of time for her still, but it's it's definitely a problem on the SmackDown brand. It's I guess the good thing here is They've given themselves some creative to build and buffer a little bit, but I don't know how that's gonna work out fully yet because liv is still really really feuding with Ryad Ripley, while Nia Jacks is to be determined as SmackDown airs tomorrow night on the Say Network. Next match here is Damien Priest defeating Finn Baller. I had Damien, Doctor Trey and Finn.

21:06 I was really happy to see singles wrestler Finn Baller on a pl in a big match. I feel like he has been a little underutilized from an in ring standpoint over the last several months. My biggest takeaway in this one is Finn hit his coup de gras finisher multiple times, could not put Damian Priest away during any of it, and then Damien hits one South of Heaven finisher for the victory on Finn, which seemed strange. I wonder where there's a feud goes from here heading into war Games, Doctor Trey. Your thoughts on this one is Damien Priest defeats Finn Balor No. I really I enjoyed this match. I mean it was a solid It's not really a filler match because they had storyline wise, but you know, when you look at you know, you got the shark cage match, you got the hell in the Cell match, you got the big tag match.

21:52 This was just a straight up singles match. So it was really good, really kept me on into my sche because I didn't where it's going that that finished, though within you brought three to Couti graz I will say it's one coupdi gras and then two double stumps to the back, so maybe technically not three coudi gras. I guess that's where they're going with it. But then one south of Heaven. I mean typically, I mean, unless you're one of the top heels in the company, whether you know your Roman or when he was a heel, or your Gunther, you know, it takes to multiple finishers to put you away when you're kind of the upper mid card heel like finn Is. I guess one big giant choke slam from a guy who's almost a foot taller than you, you know, might make sense. But I didn't hate the finish. I just, you know, kind of wanted a little bit more out of it. I just hate when the one good guy takes out four villain or three villains to get the win. Uh, that kind of bothers me, just because like typically three on one you're gonna get your ass kicked, but overall not a bad match. Just I'm just curious to see where this goes, because I think they kind of said afterwards that this right, like the tear twins are breaking up there in their separate ways. So then what do you do with Finn?

23:03 What do you do with Damien? And where do they go? So interestly, how this how they play these characters out, because I thought this would be multiple matches between these guys and looks like it might just be one and done. There is ever an opportunity to like move someone to another brand, I think, you know, if they were going to do a trade, I feel like Damien Priest is a candidate to be moved to SmackDown and be moved up the chain a little bit more. But maybe that's a discussion for another day, because yeah, it's like, what do you do with Damien? What do you do from Finn going forward? If this is the end of the few that we've seen build out slowly over like the last five months. In between here and we'll talk about it triple h and now it's World Champion versus World Champion matches for both the men and women at Crown Jewel.

23:44 The winner will be crowned the w W Crown Jewel Champion. And then also Bill Goldberg, who has been in the news for some time like pooh poohing w because they never gave him the retirement match that they allegedly promise him, which I can understand why he felt that way, and he was in discussions with AW At some point there was a rumor that he would be going on a tour like a farewell tour on his own at some point that didn't come to fruition. He appears to be back in the w fole talking about legends who were treated great or better than the last regime, and he has an interaction with the World have aweight champion. That's sure. Your thoughts on the announcement for the Crown Jeworld Champion and then Goldberg and Gunther's interaction. First of all, did you like the title the way it looked.

24:27 It's a little too much for me, but it makes sense for them trying to impress Saudi Arabia, if that makes sense. It reminds me of the old AWA title, which is kind of a more squared look like this one is, but just it's just bigger. It's a little gaudy, I guess, but we know the Saudi Arabian officials like gaudiness at times, so it's okay. I just don't know. I don't understand this whole thing. It's like, we're gonna champion for the champion. The winner gets this title, do they carry that title around because by the time this show comes around next year, for ground Joel Odds are nobody in this match is going to be the world champion, So do they just quietly take it away? I mean, is this like when Braun Strowman won the Greatest Battle or the Greatest Role Rumble ever and he got a trophy and then we never saw the trophy again.

25:14 I don't know how this works. So once again, wrestling fan, I need some logic to come to play here. But I mean, it's I'm glad to see that we're getting champion versus champion and we're not getting unified champions out of this at least, so I'm okay with that. And then seeing. Goldberback like I'm cool with it. I like the interaction. I don't know about you know, but you know, since Gage plays for Colorado's football team, I kind of want to see Dion Sanders. Showup at WWE. Now, I don't know. I just want to see Primetime out there with Art Truth doing some stuff. I think that would be kind of fun. But I just don't know. Like the retirement match, like, who, there's nobody left on this roster that I can go that's the guy he needs to wrestle, maybe other than John Cena during je seen as retirement tour.

26:03 Yeah, I don't know. I think Gun through Goldberg could be a match that maybe takes place at Survivor Series. I could see that. I don't think they're doing that for no reason at all. I think WWE wants to make it up to Goldberg and that is a title or the history of that title that Goldberg helped make famous. I think the problem with that would be, like, oh God, if Goldberg becomes the world Champion, we are in deep, deep trouble. The other thing here too, Doctor Trey is the crown jewel stuff. This has everything to do with in pressing Saudi Arabia again to me that the title the world Champion versus World Champion match. It seems like this is something that they want to give special to Saudi Arabian Showcase, Like, hey, you know, this is a big deal, big partnership to us, and this matches everything that we believe in when it comes to the glitz and glamor that comes with Saudi Arabia. So that appears to me to be very Saudi Arabian based. It's it's it's an exciting thing to see. We'll see it play out.

27:04 World Champion versus World Champion matches are pretty cool. I liked it to doing it for both both brands, and we've seen this in the past, like fifteen years ago when they did like the brand matches. Remember the ECW versus World Ofweight Champion wee Champion match. I think with big show Booker t and John Cena, I like that back then. We'll see how the build goes from here. So Cody T's that at the end of Raw. We'll have to see how the women handle that going forward, because again Live Morgan is fully involved with everything that is going on between her and Rhea Ripley. Speaking of Live Morgan, doctor Trey Reed Ripley defeats Live Morgan via disqualification. Live Morgan remains the WE Women's World Champion due to the DQ. You and I both had rie in this one.

27:45 Some takeaways on this match. Roquel Rodriguez making this say for Dominic Masterian and Live Morgan was a nice call creatively, and I like the assumed edition of rock Kel Rodriguez to the a judgment day. Maybe Roquel helping Live tips off who is getting the women's Wargames match at Survivors Series. Hmm, something to think about. I wish this match God a little bit more time, as it felt like it was just building up to something good. A dom stunt falling headfirst out of the shark cage only to be caught by the chain Legit got me nervous, like almost like profusely sweat there for a second because I have a semi fear of heights. It looks like people trash this match, but Rhea and Live continue to have a really good, strong feud. I didn't think it was as bad as the online said. Now, Trey, your thoughts on this one.

28:27 I thought the match was really good until the end, Like I thought from opening all. The way through it was really good. Once Dom came out of. The cage and I'm with you, Like when he fell out, he's hanging upside down to the chain. I'm like, first of all, like props to him for being upside I can't even hang upside down off my bed before I start getting. Lightheaded and dizzy. And here's Dom like up there for a good five eight minutes upside down. I know he was pulling himself up to kind of alleviate the pressure at times, but that is not an easy thing to do. As soon as they did, the ref spot with Rhea telling him, uh, I got some unfinished business to do. I didn't like that because the ref stopped the refting count and I'm like, no, like, you still do the count.

29:14 Did you hear what the ref said? Yeah? He said go ahead. Yeah, he was like you've earned that one. Yeah, Oh come on. Not with the camera on though, Like, come on, at least give me a reason why you're not counting. I mean, like that's you're no longer unbiased at that point, So that kind of threw me. Raquel kind of messed up the finish. I think she was actually because when she came out, the ref was looking right at it because you saw the ref as so she came out go oh crap, and he tried to look away like I didn't see her do this, but. He legitimately mouthed, oh crap. You could see, like because I've seen it in actual rep like in like over stuff, when you accidentally catch the bad guy doing something cheating, like you see him walking back towards the ring and then as soon as she jumps out, he turns back towards the crowd for no apparent reason. So I think the finish was actually supposed to be Live getting the pin.

30:09 That's what they're saying. Yes, that was supposed to be the finish. Yeah, that's what I was seeing from you know, my semi expertise eye. But you can see the ref go oh crap. I wasn't supposed to see her, and because she literally like bounced into him, you know, and then he just had to throw the DQ in there. But the finish kind of messed it all up because you can see like she did the big the big Tejanobaum put Live on top, and then you see her just go crap, the ref's not here, Like you can see it in her face that she kind of messed it up as well. But I'm excited to see where it goes because I like Raquel as a villain, and I liked it back when she had to code Kai with her kind of was the mouthpiece. If you put her with Live Lives the mouthpiece you put it with Judgment Day, that seems like a better angle than the eck. It could be another love interest for Dom at some point, if you want to make a baby face out of this.

31:02 So it does add. A little bit more to it, plus to give somebody for Rhea to fight that measures up physically, because I mean, I don't know about you, Jeff, Watching Rhian live fight is great, but when you're watching somebody who's just that much bigger than the other person, you kind of really really have to suspend your disbelief at times. But Live plays a heel really well. But like I said, I like this match all the way up until that whole referee stuff. Once the referee stuff happened, it kind of turned into a little bit of a train wreck. Yeah. I actually thought watching from home that at no point I was like, oh God, they screwed up the finish. Obviously, the reports afterwards you read like that wasn't supposed to be to finish, I thought wwe did a good job of covering that up. And one of the things I've been saying throughout this entire Rehea Live More coanfued is to your point where it's like you get us suspend this belief a little bit between the height and all that stuff in the size, I think they have done a very good job, as has Rihea Ripley and her role to that Live Morgan is just as much as a badass as she is on the same level. While visually it looks different, and I appreciate that the attention to the detail that's going on there. Again, I didn't dislike this match. I think, knowing what I know now, if we recorded the show on Saturday night early Sunday morning, it's like, let's recap this match, I would have said.

32:23 I felt like they cut time out of this one because of the match that would take place next. I was like, this is the match that got the acts. Maybe Helen USL ran a little bit too long, but coming out where Raquel and the finish was kind of, you know, screwed up in a little bit of a way. It makes sense now why they did what they did, so I like the pairing of Raquel and Live. I like your thoughts there that you know, later on, maybe the love interest goes from Live to Raquel. For Dom, that would be a really good thing for his character. That would be really fun and interesting. And overall, I think Raquel in this role is really good, and I think Live's character should have a character should have someone like that in her background. And I think, and we always do this from time to time when there's a female bodyguard and a male wrestler, But I could see Roquel being the China to Dom's Triple H two. So it's it was good. I didn't dislike it as much as the people online did. I saw it got like a really bad rating from Cage Match, and it's like, God, I've seen worse matches in the last year, and I didn't feel like that was as bad as other ones I've seen. And then finally the main event here, Doctor Trey, Cody Roads and Roman Reigns defeat Solusico and Jacob fat two.

33:35 We both had. I had Cody Roads and Roman Reign Doctor Trey and Solosico and Jacob fot two. This match struck all the courts. For me, it was good in reperformance with solid storytelling. The Jimmy User return and the pop he got was awesome. Jimmy convincing Roman help Cody during this postmatch beat down from the new bloodline was a solid moment, and then the Rock returning was off the charts. I also liked the post event social media stuff, including Soloicicoa telling the crowd that Therox return is quote part of the plan, and Kevin Owens taking out Cody Rose as he entered his tour bus. Post show was very, very well done. Everything in WW is really well done lately and hitting on all cylinders. Doctor Trey, your thoughts on this one.

34:16 Yeah, I mean you hit my thoughts exactly. There wasn't anything about this match. I disliked the storytelling. The trepidation at times between Cody and Roman was great. Those moments of where you see like Solo like ordering Jacob to do something, and I love Corey Grays on commentary basically you know, just alluding to that, like Jacob's gonna do whatever. Solo says like there's no you know, there's no tension in that bloodline. All the Cody dive from the top rope to splash and giving Roman the. Salute like all right, dude, you got this. I'm out and just diving to take Jacob I thought was really well done too. Then you know, Jimmy getting that big pop. I don't know about you, but like I almost feel bad at times for Jimmy. Hu's so because you know, like Jay's gotten super over, He's the inner con Neil champion. Jimmy's been kind of I don't want to say injury prone, but he's had his issues.

35:10 He get, you know, dinged up. I mean, Solo passed him in a sense as well. But that crowd response when he got that big pop. I felt so happy for him, and then just showing how important he is the Roman, like he's gonna gonna be kind of the conscience for Roman as Roman goes down this babyface path again, you know, getting him to go back in and help Cody and all that stuff. That was great the Rocks return, Like, I'm interested to see how this goes because you couldn't tell who he was sighting with. I mean, you got the the stuff you know post show with you know, so the crowd hearing Solo say is all part of the plan. But if you go back to the beginning of this, after WrestleMania, Solo kept saying that he was doing stuff for the Tribal Chief, and we know we always kind of questioned who was he actually referring to, Was it Roman or was it the Raw. Now that kind of plays back into it again, so it's a great dynamic. Maybe we're getting the Ce's planet for the og Blood line against the New bloodline.

36:11 So just a really fun way to end the show. And then the Cody stuff after the show with the beatdown from Kevin Owens. I'm gonna be interesting with how they played down on SmackDown because they've basically played it off like it was a legitimate thing. You know, we're handling this internally, we're not allowed to talk about it. Brandy Rose posting a picture of her, Cody, their daughter, and Ko at Disneyland. I don't know if you saw that. That was great because her daughter's just eyeballing Ko like he's the devil. That was all really fun. So just a really really good way to end Bad Blood. Yeah, we talked about on last week's show. I mean Pat McAfee had said after the Cody interview that was picked up on their social media. I heard the Big Guys coming back, and we discussed on the show. It's like he's either talking about Hayman or The Rock. And as things got closer, it came out to The Rock was going to be going to the high school that was involved with the school shooting earlier this year to go watch their football team play, which was like less than one hundred miles away from in Atlanta, Georgia. It's like, oh God, so Rock is in town, he's in state, he's nearby. And as it got closer and closer, it just felt like, Okay, this is The Rock's return, and this was It was really nice. It was a good way to end the show. And according to Wressell votes, this is the potential beginning to the build the Wrestle eighty forty one Doctor Trey that we saw And maybe that's part of the reason why this was such a big deal show is you know Rock countdown like three, two,

37:45 one and then left and it appears tentative plans right now always can change, as we know from last year. Earlier this year, Cody Rhoads versus Roman Reigns versus The Rock at Wrestlem eighty forty one is potentially on the table right now for a match at RUSS many forty one in Las Vegas. So overall, great stuff. I mean, very very very very enjoyable finish of the show, which is everything with the Bloodline. It's we've got a path now for Cody Rhodes coming out of this one, and where there's intrigue heading in the SmackDown. I love the Gorilla creative video. You know that took place. They did not put out we cameras purposely outside when that angle took place with Ko and Roads. They knew the fans were gonna take care of it. I'm sure there were some plants out there just in case they got some really bad videos. But overall, I mean just completely, very very well done. So lots of different layers here, Doctor Trey, You've got the layer of is there wargame implications Jimmy Usso's back. Does Cody get away now from Roman for a little bit? Does he get away from the Bloodline for a little bit. Does this lead to a feud with Ko that carries us the next couple months? Where does the rock play into this entire thing? A lot of questions coming out of this one. Good questions, intriguing questions, entertaining questions, and overall a very good way to finish the show. So pay p review prediction record I gave it.

39:11 I got five and oh Doctor Trey went three and two. I'm one hundred and seventeen thirty on the year one oh six and forty one for Doctor Trey pay per view event ratings and Match of the night. I gave Bad Blood a four point one out of five. My match of the night was CM Punk and Drew McIntyre Doctor Trey, What say you? I had it at a four point two, so slightly higher, and I had CEM Puck and Drew McIntyre as well, like this is you. You can't really put a show together where you have. Like a great beginning and a great end, very memorable stuff. Yeah, maybe the Naya Bailey match wasn't as up to pars, maybe we hoped, but it was still better than most Naya matches, and Finn and Dami was good. I like living rheas. So we got five matches and I thought they were all solid. Two fantastic coming out of this one.

40:03 There was a lot of discussion throughout the week about w I think Fightful had a report out there that ww likes doing the five matches events, that they're taking the page out of NXC take Over, something that we have pointed out and noticed here on the show over the last year or so under the triple A terrain. It then took another step there where WWE's business model now for PLA weekends is where they have a big match on SmackDown and a big match on Raw, or matches on Raw and SmackDown, which is what we saw this past week. We're heading into Bad Blood. You had a triple threat ladder match for the tag team titles with the Bloodline, DIY and Street Profits. That was a very good match. And on Raw you had Gunther and Sammy, you had Jay Usso and Xavier Woods. I like this idea, Doctor Troy. I like that they're lending credence to the importance of the shows leading into and out of the pay per view, and I like that pl pay per view quality matches are taking place on both before the pl E and after the p l E. It seems that there are some fans that are up in arms a little bit about this, like this is something new that WWE has done. Worded. There have been five matches max, and they've been doing stuff on Friday or SmackDown on SmackDown and then Monday and Raw. I guess it's a little bit more concrete. I guess it's the plan that they're going to be doing moving moving forward. Your thoughts on the pl E weekend business model now for w A.

41:27 Uh Like, I wish there's maybe one more match, like maybe one or two at times, but you know, the business models changed and in the old days, you got the workers got bonuses for working pl E slash pay per views, and they don't really get that as much anymore. Uh So, if if you can kind of pack the whole weekend with having a great match on Friday, come back, have the ple and then have another big match on Monday, you're you're kind of getting it all and you're spreading it out. And one thing you and I. Love is when they spread it out and we're not stuck watching something for five hours. Like if you can give me some big matches over three days, I'm fine with that because I can kind of pick and choose my spots then and I'm not tied to the couch for an entire afternoon. I mean, we're in college football season, Jeff.

42:17 I can't watch college football a day and then go into a poe right after it. My family will actually up and leave me at some point. So I like how it spread out. I don't hate it as much as maybe I did early on when they were only doing five matches and we were getting kind of just solid stuff on Raw and sotallid stuff on SmackDown. But like now, but that triple threat match on SmackDown was really good Gunther and like, not only did you have gun through Sammy and Jane Xavier, you also had that Donnie Brook with Seamus and Pete Dunne. I mean that was a fully loaded Raw also with you know, the CM punk stuff, the seth rawl and stuff like that was a fully loaded show. So I'm fine with kind of spreading the wealth around. Plus what that should is actually also helped increase ratings or increase viewership to Netflix if you're going to have I mean, we don't get the world title defended on Raw very very often over the last ten years. I mean, if that's a model they're going with, which if you look at it, we talked about this a couple weeks ago.

43:18 The Gunther on the pecking order is kind of down below quite a few guys. It's probably gonna happen a little bit more often going forward until you get him up in to where he's the main Evan guy on RAW. So I like the trajectory there on with this. It's gonna be interesting in the type of influence this business model has now on the rest of the industry, because I think AWS has had a very large influence and changing the way that we's business model has taken place with creative in ring stuff. The house shows the schedule, taking care of the wrestlers, paying them more money whatever, locking them up long term. There's been a big influence on AAW. This is going to bleed into a little bit about what we'll discuss your head in a Wrestle Dream.

44:01 But spoiler alert, this may be the least I have been excited or interested in an AW pay per view potentially ever in the entire five year existence of the company. Heading into this Saturday for Wrestle Dream and I find the AW pay per views, and I know this is not a popular opinion amongst the hardcorese I find four hours on a Saturday night or Sunday night of just NonStop wrestling, great entering stuff, but kind of lacking a little bit of entertainment. Out of the entertainment I'm seeing from the inn ring to be a bit boring than what I'm seeing in WE right now. And I think W has influenced that where I like these shows where they get in and get out, they get done what they need to get done from an n ring standpoint, they get done what they need to get done from an entertaining standpoint, and even though it's five matches, I feel like I'm getting most banged from my buck and then heading into those pl weekends, I know that SmackDown may have one or two great matches on the car that are very intriguing and interesting for free television, and I know Raw will have one or two great matches that will be intriguing coming out of PLS on television for free aw heading into Dynamite in Collision or in Rampage, it's heading into those pay per view weekends. It's like almost throwaway shows. Dynamite this past Wednesday was not good, and we'll break down those viewerships here in a little bit, and you're heading into the pay per view. I did not personally enjoy that. So I wonder if there's any influence here, Doctor Trey where the WWE pay per view pl model will be reflective in AAW. At some point,

45:34 I think AW is gonna be too stubborn. I don't think they're going to make any changes. I think they're gonna stick with that four hour mark and ten matches a card, and whether there is a lot of build or very little build. I don't see AW changing it. But I like that I'm getting most banged from my buck from WWE and they're doing less matches than AW is doing right now. Yeah, I mean, the one thing we can say about AAW is they are stubborn as hell at times. Like they have their model, they run with it, they'll tweak it, but for the most part, you never see wholesale changes. I mean, if it gets to a point where we're. Looking at an AW card it's got five or six matches and that's all they have for the night, then you know, then I'll take a little more notice. But right now, like I just can't see Tony Kahan and the upper management going, you know what they're doing. We like that because that's why we get five hour pay per views because they give those guys twenty to thirty minutes every single match to go work it.

46:30 W You didn't do that in the past. If they had eight matches on the card, you know they're gonna be there's gonna be a five minute match in there. There's gonna be something that's kind of a throwaway now with that NXT model that they did so successfully in the past, or and the Black and Gold era, like you're getting fifteen twenty minutes for everybody on the on the pl I mean, the women aren't getting cut short. The tag matches, if it's on the pl is not getting cut short. It gives guys a chance to really do what they love the best. And I love that fans are upset about this because the knock WWU has always been oh, they talked too much, there's not enough wrestling. Now you're getting more wrestling on the plees and people are still not happy about it. So I guess you can't please everybody.

47:12 So let's get into a doctor trey. This past Tuesday, NXC versus AW head to head. NX did not load up the box like they did a year ago, where they had Cody and Cina an undertaker, et cetera, et cetera. They just had Randy Orton and Saint Louis and that was to move ticket sales, and that quasi didn't work folks, because they moved from the arena that RAW was in the night before into a much smaller arena at the Factory in Saint Louis. This past Tuesday, AW has their title Tuesday because of the MLB playoffs. Their headlined with Wheeler You and Brian Danielson the world champion against Claudie Ow and Pac. And this is a headhead matchup and it's a head to head from the nine to ten PM hour, I must say as well, So it actually went from eight to ten. AW went from nine to eleven.

47:55 And I don't know why they did that. I don't know if it was because the Baseball playoffs, I'm not necessarily sure. Nonetheless, the viewership came out, So NXT did eight hundred and seventy four thousand viewers a point two four rating. AW did three hundred and twenty nine thousand viewers, a point one zero rating for both eighteen to forty nine for both NXT and AW. Dave Melt who is often criticized as a staunch supporter of AW, wrote tweeted quote, it's very clear at this point aw's audience, unlike two years ago, is choosing WE, and they have less of an exclusive audience than before. Doctor Trey. This is this is very telling. Your thoughts here on the Head to head were NXT like bitch slapped AW this past Tuesday night.

48:45 Yeah, it's it's concerning in a lot of ways, not only the viewership, but I mean you can see from from the arena in Spokane, like it just it was mostly empty and you're looking going you got Darby Allen and Brian Danson on the show, and those are Washington State guys, and you couldn't draw a bigger crowd. Like it's it is noticeably concerning, and like you said, like WW didn't go out and sell out, Like there's no undertaker coming out to beat up braun breaker. John Sena is not on the building. It's literally Randy Orton and Javon Evans, who outside of NXT fans, nobody knows who John Evans is. So it's it's kind of one of those things where like I think even WW kind of went yeah.

49:33 We don't have to sell out for this one. We can just go out there and be solid and I think we can take them, and they kind of prove their points. So it does make you nervous because it was like I was. I had a friend of the other day asking me about AW. I'm like, the thing about it is like, it's a very solid operation. It's a very solid show. It's a you know most of the time. But there's nothing that's must see right now. And I think with WW, you can say, man, I got to see what's happening with the Roman and the Bloodline. I gotta see what's happening with with Drew and cm Punk, I gotta see what's happening with Rhea and Live. Like there's enough stuff going on that you have to tune in to watch. Where with AW right now is like maybe the stuff with Moxley and Danielson, But outside of that, is there really anything that is, you know, driving people back to the TVs or into the arenas that's making it a musty show.

50:23 I don't really think there is. Yeah, they're having tough tough time selling tickets. It's very noticeable on their website. If you out there and take a look. There was a couple of markets I looked at prior to the show and it's still very readily available and it's next month, and these are markets where they were selling out. The viewership is very concerning the head to head with NXT. Who's very concerning this past Wednesday's edition or Tuesday's edition of Dynamite heading into Russell Dream again. I mentioned earlier on the show, this is the first time for me, Doctor Trey, I could care less about an AW pay per view this on this Saturday. I walked out of that show and I was like, what am I excited for? Intrigued to see where Moxley and Danielson go because I want to know if this leads to Sea McMahon potentially join an AAW. Outside of that, Osprey Ta Takeashka, Ricochet, the return of Swerve. I mean, it's a lot of stuff that I'm not looking forward to, and it's like AW has a problem right now, and all things considered, this isn't like me being a w W homer, which I'll be criticized for on X or on Facebook post show here. I legitimately think NXT is better than AW right now. I am finding nxta more entertaining than watching AW right now. And that's why on Tuesday night for me personally, I watched NXT first, AW second two three years ago, four years ago when it was the Wednesday Night Wars, I was watching AAW first NXT second And that's because I could watch NXT also

51:54 on demand on Peacock, but AW was better back then. So they've got a problem on their hands. Doctor Treya, do you do you feel the same way? Do you feel like there's a major problem here? Could you care less for wrestle during this Saturday? Where do you stand on this entire thing? Like I think I'm about where you're at, Like there's nothing that to me is must sye like the like the closest thing would be Danielson Moxley. And that's just because I'm intrigued to see. Where it goes. I mean because supposedly they you know, Danielon loses his last match, or they can put the title back on Boxley. Does the shame thing happen? Does Wheeler turn on Danielson? Like I am intrigued about that, and then Darby and Brody King I'm intrigued by just because I really like Brodie King. I think he's very, very underrated, So I'm I want to see that match, but really everything else, like we have the Young Bucks in Private Party kind of like it, and when you look at the picture of the of the card, it's featured pretty prominently.

52:53 And I'm like, Private. Party has been getting their ass kicked for like the better part of you know, three years, and all of a sudden, now they're in line for a title shot just because they kind of asked for one. Like some of the stuff just doesn't make sense to me. So their issue is once again, like there's nothing compelling about their show that makes me want to watch other than just wrestling action. Like I mean the stuff with Osprey and Kyle Fletcher and Takeshka and Don Kallas. That's a little interesting, but that's kind of where I kind of thought that was going to go at some point. But I mean, Jeff, is there anybody on. This show that you just go, Man, I have to see the entire show for this one guy or this one segment. And I just I mean, I know you love Aspray. I'm coming around. I'm becoming a bigger, bigger will Ospray fan. Every single week but I mean, you got no MJF. Jericho's kind of like there's Danielson's still not a great by the way.

53:57 I hate his hair. I hate when he does the braids. It looks ridiculous. But there's just nothing exciting about the show right now that makes me go, man, I gotta see what they're gonna do. And those guys go out there and damn near kill themselves in the ring. It's just the storytelling and the stuff that goes on around it is just not good right now, and it makes me just go, like you where I'm just like, I'll probably check out the highlights. I might check out a couple of matches. I'm definitely not putting any money down for this show, but I mean you don't have I mean, you spend all this money on Oca Ocada's not even on the show, seriously, Like, come on, guys.

54:38 I will say here so creatively, there's a couple of things, and you brought up the Young Bucks private party stuff, and I've actually enjoyed the character build a private party for the last couple of weeks where the hand gets smashed from John Moxley on Isaiah Cassidy and they start lining themselves up to try to get back at the Young and get back into a match, and they asked for the match, they didn't get one. Then they were getting victories. They got to win over the Young Bucks and Jack Perry when they teamed with Katti or Shabada on the previous edition of Dynamite. Then they win the triple Threat match on Collision to become the number one contenders. Here's the missing point though. Okay, Young Bucks were not there on Wednesday, so they did not further that storyline outside of a backstage segment with Private Party where they cut a promo that pissed me off. Hangman Adam Paige versus Jay White any other given time, and I expect this on Saturday to be a great match, but that deserves a great bill. Jay White comes back, he takes out Hangman Paige who's attacking Juice Robinson. You figure Hangman Page and Jay White will further this thing on Wednesday's Dynamite. Nope, Jay White just cuts a Babyface promo for quasi Babyface promo and that's that. It's like, what are we doing here?

55:56 And you mentioned Okada. I didn't even think about it. Okata is not on the card for Wressel Dream. The show is called Wressel Dream, right well, who is a dream wrestler right now? Kazushka Okada, He's off the card. I would have preferred that it was Ricochet versus Osprey at this match, and they didn't do it at the five Year Dynamite show. I would have preferred one on one there. Then Kenoski Takeshka being randomly thrown into this one, and there's been some good character arc with that. But the build has just been met, and this is what we've been saying. People are saying it as well. Again, I will say that AW had a really rough time until AW Revolution back in March. From AW Revolution to about all Out, I felt like creatively entering wise and as a company, they were starting to climb upwards again.

56:45 They were sending the ladder where I wanted to see them as a fan of the business. Ever since all Out, it's like, I don't know if a lot of different stars align where Mjoff is off television because he's filming right now. He's involved with the Happy Gilmore sequel and he has a major role in that movie. Swerve Strickling was rumored to be doing something in television. That's why he's been off television in the last couple of weeks. It's like, you know, Adam Copeland is still out with injury, FTR is dealing with stuff at home from Helene, but they haven't really been featured as much as they used to be prior to all this. The Outrunners are really climbing upwards and ascending, similar to the Acclaim did several years ago, and they're not on the paper view card to capitalize on that. It's like a bunch of things that is just mind boggling. And as I watched Dynamite Doctor Trey, all I could think of was again, and I hate saying this, but I will if we didn't do a podcast, I think I would stop watching AW I legitimately thought that there would be the topic on this show, and maybe there isn't a couple of weeks.

57:45 If this continues onwards, where how is this any different from TNA in two thousand and nine, twenty ten when we started this podcast and we decided this is just so bad I can't watch it anymore. I mean, imagine if you remove Dynamite Rampagent Collision from your viewing, you know, that you do for professional wrestling. That's five hours each week, and I just watch clips on YouTube like everybody else, and it's like I can get five hours back of my life and we don't cover it as much on the show. Do we become a strictly WWE type podcast. These are things that I've legitimately thought about in my head because I was so damn disappointed with Tuesday's edition in Dynamite. I thought it was missed opportunities. I think it's been a very poor build overall with there are some hits, a lot of misses. Heading in a wrestl tream on Saturday. If I was someone that staunchly reported AW and I bought every pay per view and I tune in all the time, It's like, why the hell would I spend fifty plus bus bucks on the show other than the sport AW. I mean, there's very little on this card that we will run through here momentarily where I'm like, oh, I've been really happy with this build.

58:46 I can't wait to see the match on Saturday. Very little and it's like AW continues to shoot themselves in the foot. I see the viewership come out NXT versus AW on Tuesday, and it was a complete bitch slap. It was not seven hundred and fifty thousand with AW six and fifty thousands of the NXT. It was a five hundred thousand plus difference in both. I mean, mind Boline, I know they did not both start at the same time, but I thought that was very, very shocking and should we talked about a lot more than it is right now? Yeah, I mean, to me, the one thing AW has had a hard time with through the five years is when somebody organically gets over or somebody gets hot, they stop it way too short.

59:26 And that's one thing. And I know what the documentary and everything else, everybody goes on this anti vinceling, But the one thing Vince Is always did and Triple H has been successful with as well, is when somebody gets hot or gets over organically, we feature the hell out of them because there's something there we have to capitalize on. And when you have somebody like the outrunners or whether it was the acclaimed last year or somebody else just gets hot and the crowd really gets into them, why the hell are they not on the show, like, you have to capitalize on that. I mean, you you go back two months ago to the like Darby and Jack Perry with the coffin match and Darby's one of the hottest guys in your company and he loses in his specialty match basically clean, Like, I just don't get it. It's like they kind of it's very clickish and how they book their show where it's like, yeah, certain guys that are kind of the favorites are always going to get and you know, Crowby, dam it's a little bit that Vince stubbornness that you and I have talked about for damn near a decade kind of coming out in aw and Tony Con where it's like, yeah, if you're not part of the inner circle quote unquote, yeah, you may not be seen, you may not be featured, you may not get over it.

1:00:40 If you don't get over because of us, if you get over on your own and not with us, then yeah, you might not be seen anyway. So it's just it's doesn't make sense to me. And then it is a little bit bad timing. Somebody gets hot, somebody has a great match, and then they have another commitment that they have to take, which boggles my mind as well, Like, like I know MJFS wanted to dip his toes into the Hollywood stuff, but you got to swerve coming out this great angle with Hangman Page and you know he's gonna go off and do something. It's like, where are your priorities? I mean, Ww's always like, hey, your priorities to the company. If there's something else going on, we can work around it. Great, will work around it. But your priority is us. And I think that aw is almost too nice in that where it's like somebody's hot, he gets it offered to do TV. Oh yeah, well yeah, you're hot right now.

1:01:30 Everybody wants to see you. Yeah, I go take six weeks off, out of sight, out of mind. People forget. So it just that they've had a knack of doing that for their entire history in this show or of their show. Is some again is hot, They get featured, and then all of a sudden they're just gone, and people kind of forget about it. I know they've got the big deal one hundred and eighty five million each year for the next three to four years and a Warner Brothers Discovery. That's great, very very talented roster. I enjoy the work that they do. I've really liked that they've pushed the envelope in the world of professional wrestling, but the gap is getting wider between them and w WAE right now, and they need to do stuff now to close that gap again. Because they were knocking on the doorstep of just strictly me wanting to watch AW over we several years ago, and it's like ever since then, all out twenty twenty one, it's it's been very much a slow downturn for AW.

1:02:28 It really reminds me a lot of TENA Doctor Trey. I watched them in and out from like two thousand and two when they launched till about the Monday Night Wars when we started doing this podcast, and then I never really returned outside the pandemic. I would tune in and I would watch them on a regular basis when they were back as Impact Wrestling, I'll watch them from far and check out some stuff on YouTube. But I feel like that could be the direction it's going for me as a fan, where I mean, it's just reminiscent to me in my mind of like two and nine twenty ten TNA, where it's like this is the beginning of the end of their popularity, and I don't want that to be true, but I'm just like sick and tired of the last three years of this stop start. You know, good stretches are creative. Really bad stretches are creative, no character build, no character development, great entering stuff, but like potentially boring at the end of the night. And that's kind of where I'm at right now. Not true.

1:03:21 I think AW is a major problem, and I think doing this podcast kind of saves them for me. I don't know if you're there yet, but that's that's how I feel. I mean, if you look at the five year run, it's reminiscent of TNA from two thousand and six to twenty eleven, where it was really cool at first, people were checking it out, people were tuning in. They try to go bigger, they try to do something else, and then stuff goes sideways. It's reminiscent of WCW from about ninety six to about two. Thousand and one. You know, the launch of the nWo, all the excitement, all the craziness, all these new stars coming up, and then by the end the inmates are the inmates are running the asylum, and stuff's gone off the rails and we're getting the Magnificent Seven and all the other presents.

1:04:06 That went on New Blood. It's just yeah, I mean, it's just sometimes like you know, it's it's the common thing that we have said for five years is that Tony Kahn's a really nice guy and he wants to be friends with everybody. But sometimes you have to be an. A hole when you're in charge and go, look there, there's a system, there's a way that things work. There's and there's enough guys that. Have crossed over from WWE into AW that knows the formula and knows the system and knows how stuff should be structured to where this stuff should make more sense and put on better television. I think they forget that they're a television show. There's I mean, my common complaint for five years has been like, leave me with a cliffhanger at the end of the show where I have to tune in the next week to see what happens.

1:04:55 And they have very seldom done that. And when and they have done it, they've blown the angle up like within a couple of weeks. I'm talking like the firm, you know, we talked about it last week's show, just in passing. I'm like they come up with a cool angle and you're like, oh, this is great, and then either they blow the angle up or somebody gets hurt because they do too much in the ring, and then they're out for a year and the whole angle just goes away. It's really frustrating at times when. You try to go, look, I'm giving you guys every opportunity to win me over and make me a die hard fan, and right now I'm just on the peripheral checking out YouTube clips. Yeah, I'm right there. It's it's an interesting time, so let's get into it. AW Russell Dream Prever predictions this Saturday for the Tacoma Dome and Tacoma Washington. Hopefully it turns itself around as being a solid card. I hope when we get back here next Thursday. People that are like, you guys are being too harsh on AW. Doc Train and I sit here and we're like, yeah, we didn't enjoy the build, but that was a four point zero plus show and that's very well possible because they have the n ring talent to do it. Heading into this one, it's like, man, this is a very out of character build for AW, which is concerning because they should be capitalizing right now, not falling backwards when w w W is hitting stuff out of the park. First match here, case of point, Doctor Trey Atlantis Junior defends the ROH World Television Championship against Brian Cage. I have no idea how they got to this point. I don't watch r OH.

1:06:22 It's on the card. I'm gonna take it. Atlantis Junior. Yeah, I just learned this week that Brian Cage portrayed Mortis in WWE briefly in some dark matches. I did not know that, really. I thought that was I thought that was Chris Kanyon. No. I actually saw him posts on his Facebook page. He actually posted that Canyon Lent gave him the Mortis outfit, uh, to kind of carry on the Mortis Mortis legacy when he was doing the MVP stuff. So, uh, yeah, I did not know. I'll send you. I'll screenshot and send it to you this week. But yeah, I didn't know Lantis Junior was the Ring of Honors. I wasn't champion.

1:07:02 I thought Atlantis Junior was a small casino in Erna, Nevada. But I'll take him to win because Brian Cage doesn't win titles in AAW, so I'll take it. Atlantis Junior. Next match here is Hologram taking on the Beast Mortos in a two out of three falls match. They're really pushing Hologram doctor Trem. I'm going to take Hologram. Yeah, And they were really pushing Mortos a month ago, and then he's now in L I J L I G. I don't know who it is now. I'm taking Hologram because I think this way, he actually gets a loss, so that way, he's technically not undefeated because he gets pinned at one point, but I think he wins the match two out of three, So I'll take Hologram as well.

1:07:42 Yeah. And by the way, talking about on last week's show with Don Kallis and l I J, they did a trade with Lance Archer going to Don Kallis's family and of course the guy that you would think of, Jake Roberts now being the man for L I J. Going forward. Jake Roberts, who I have not seen on AW television maybe a year, is back as manager MXM Collection, who I do enjoy, and they are taking on the Acclaim and a tag team match. I really want to pick MXM Collection, but I'm going to take the Acclaimed in this one. Yeah, I totally agree with you. I really want to pick MXM, but I'm taking the Acclaimed as well. Hangman Out Page takes on Jay White. I'm going to take hang Man Out in Paige.

1:08:26 Yeah, I'm with you. I'm taking a hanging Man as well as and that was a Jay's promo on Dynamo is actually really good, but I'm taking a Hangman as well. Maria May defends the AW Women's World champions against Willow Nightingale. I will take Mariah May. I don't know how many of these were gonna disagree on because I'm with you on this one as well. I'm taking Mariah May getting the win. That's part of the reason when I was like building this card out for the show, I was like, man, I don't see many title changes here. The Young Bucks defend the AW World Tag Team Champion against a Private Party. I would love to pick Private Party, but I'm going to go with the Young Bucks. I'm taking the Young Bucks as well. Will Osprey to the AW International Championship against Rikoshet. Knoski Takeshka in a three way match. Who do you like this one? Doctor? Try this This is the one where I was like, I don't know where I'm going with those one because I could make a case for Takeshka, but uh man, I think I'm gonna take Ospray retaining. I just think he's on a hot streak, so I think you gotta run with it for now. So I'm taking Ospray's on this one.

1:09:23 I'm gonna take Osprey as well. Jack Perry defends the AWT and T Championship against Katti or Shabata, Doctor Tree, who do you liking this one? I'm going with a scapegoat because when you have a goat that headbutts against the Japanese minute head. But you picked the animal. I'm going to take Jack Perry as well. Darby Allen take it on, brody Kin. I'm gonna go with Darby Allen. As much as I want to pick Brody King. I'm picking Darby because Darby needs a win because he got beat by Jack Perry and then got beat by John Moxley, so Darby needs a win. This is the next two matches, the one I'm having trouble with. You got Mark Briskett defend the ROH World Championship against Chris Jericho. Who do you like this one? Doctor? Try? This one's tough because I think Joe Samo. Joe might have gotten done filming Twisted Metal, so I can see Joe coming out to help Briscoe win. I think I'm gonna take Jericho regaining the ROH title of making him the what comes after?

1:10:16 Ohow he said the Nueva. He actually said that in a promo. I missed the promo because God knows, I don't watch all his promos, so I can see Jericho becoming the Nueva. So I'll take Jericho. I'm gonna go with Jericho as well, because I think they want to have another ROA show towards the end of the year, and they gotta put some butts in the seat. And then finally, this is a tough one, Doctor Trey. Brian Danielson defends the AW World Championship against John Moxley. I'm gonna pick John Moxley this one. I think wheelder you to turns and Danielson goes away now for a little bit. I don't think you've done. You do this six to eight week build with John Moxley being a major focal point for your AW television, only for him to lose the first time he gets a World Championship match. So I think this leads to an another era in chapter where they take over the company, because if he lost, it's be like, what was the point of that. Now I'm gonna take Moxley in this one.

1:11:09 Yeah, I'm with you, Like it's funny because it was just a short time ago you and I sat here and said who's gonna be the guy to have thrown Danielson at I don't know if we had Moxley on the list, but yeah, I'm taking Moxley as well, And it's all for the same reasons, like I just see you to turning the BCC kind of taking over. I don't know if Shane comes in or not, but you know they've declared war on aw for being and this is I'm actually for me. That makes him a baby face because I agree with everything Moxley's saying. So I'm taking Moxley get the win as well. Yeah, I think they kind of alluded to a Wheeler turn there a little bit of foreshadowing that tag team match where Danielson was off the apron for a decent amount of time and Wheeler went for that tag several times and he was not there, so that could certainly be a storyline reason as to why he turns on Danielson. Yes, after try to.

1:11:56 Mention he's still part of the six man tag team or the six man Tag Team Champions, that is true. I mean, how often do you see that where the trios champions are a feud with one another? I forgot that was the phrasing my bat No problem. So let's get a couple plugs and spots out of the way. You can download the show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guy Radio dot com, Russell Chattingett on xenistead Real Fast Show iTunes feed, don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us comment charts on iTunes. You can follow us individually on X for myself at SRTU Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at the Doctor Trey And of course don't forget the fall show on X at SRTU podcast Doctor Trey. What is going on the one for World of Doctor Trey Franklin this week? Well, Jeff said, You can follow me on X at the Doctor Tray. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook.

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