SummerSlam Preview & Is Shane McMahon Heading To AEW? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #755 – 8/1/24

0:00 It's still welcome. Everybody welcome. So this week's edition Mister Rilla Show episode number seven hundred and fifty five or August first, twenty twenty four, this is your w Ee SummerSlam preview and predictions editions of as r T You. I am one after the show, I am Jeff Peck joined every single week my post on only Doctor Tray Franklin, Doctor Treya. I did not have Shane McMahon and Tony Kahn having a meeting on my Bengo card, my friend, Yeah.

0:47 That really wasn't on my Bingo card either. I'm I'm just curious to see that. If we have to rename Shane McMahon if he does actually come into aw or is he gonna be. Shane mac Man Shane Oh yeah. Shane oh the artist formerly known as Shane O Mack you know something like that. Well this is a real name, right, So I'm just Shane MacMahon. I like that one. Yeah, space it out of love. They spell Man with with no H is just m A N N. He's just He's just a nineties character. He's the mac Man. He comes out to Return of the Mac Yeah, exactly.

1:28 There you go. So it wasn't on my Bengo card either. But you know, and again two years ago, did we think that there'd be no McMahon's really. In w W. E No, And I also didn't think cm punk was gonna be in w W. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's a wild time for professional wrestling. It's a very fun time, but a very wild time for professional wrestling. So there were two photos, one which actually dropped during last week's recording, and then obviously one that I saw on Wednesday of Shane McMahon and Tony k in a meeting with one another in a private office at Airport in Arlington, So that was certainly one photo. The second one was Drew McIntyre and Jack Perry together and I was like, man, that is a shocking photo. I can't believe that's taking you know, that's out there on the internet.

2:18 Drew McIntyre ended up like deleting that tweet an Instagram post. However, I think the Seane McMahon Tony knphoto is like the most shocking one I've ever seen. Yeah, I mean, if you if you remember a certain Hall of Fame ceremony from a few years ago where Billy Gunn was there, and there's the mention of a you know, kind of the mention of him working for somebody else, and Trip Place made the comment that Vince could just buy up that little piss anc company whenever he wanted to. It's interesting to see this actually play out because you know where there Shane is there, Evince looming in the background. Since he's now pretty much completely divested for on TKO holdings.

3:02 Does the holy unholy. Union of Vince and Tony Kahan come into play or is this strictly Shane just trying to make amends for tearing both his squads dancing at WrestleMania two years ago. He wasn't dancing, wasn't he doing like a leap frog? I thought he was. Doing his entrance dance in the little Shane o Mac, you know, Diddy and. Torrent and I thought it was always a leap frog. But we'll have to go back and watch the footage if he in fact didn't tear his quads acl whatever he did that night and Niniscus whatever doing his Shane o Mac dance. So this is obviously a huge story. It's kind of been building for some time, and it's it's very funny. There's definitely some conspiracy theories that I have behind this that we'll get to here in just a little bit while as we talk about this. But there was a report out there from a Fightful Select and Wrestle Talk, and the report stated that this past month of July twenty nine, Tony Kahan and Shane McMann s down together for the first time. While con has been receptive to the idea of McMahon and AW and this also comes to us from Wrestling, Inc, the two had never actually spoken before. Earlier this week, talks between the parties seemed to be in the early stages, with a fight Full statement at their sources back stage in AW who had not been briefed on the meeting as of Tuesday. In addition to the description of the meeting, and Wrestle Talk posted a photo showing Conor McMahon in a small conference room together. Cohn has like this shot look on his face or smiley look on his face, and sham Commn is looking rather serious.

4:30 Then. More to this story, this comes to us from Bully Ray on Busted Open Radio. So he reached out to Sea McMann like I they had a conversation and then he somehow got like this text asking him about this entire meeting and shame. McMahon issued a statement in response to the news of his meeting with Tony con saying quote, Tony and I were connected through a mutual friend and we had a great meeting. We talked about many things, but mostly about our shared love for the business and the rewards and challenges of working with family. I congratulate him on the five year anniversary of AW and look forward to see how he evolves the business moving forward. Another layer there. One more comes to us from Dave Meltzer from russellm Ser Radio, saying quote, I know that Sha McMann has looked to get back in we. I know that people in charge of W had have no interest in him. Could that change with the idea that to be willing to go to AW? Maybe maybe not?

5:27 Could he be really be willing to go to AW? I don't know where his mind is. Should AW take him, which is probably the big question. Is it a leverage play for him to try and get back into WA, which wouldn't surprise me at all, But I know from people in WA, like I said, he's trying to get back. There's a lot of negativity, I would say, has been there for a long time, which is an interesting layer to it. And then finally, doctor Trey on this entire thing. Russell Votes tweeted out the following, saying, quote, ask a longtime w employee friendly with Shane for thoughts on the Tony Kahn picture. The response quote, Shane's as smart as they come. Take it a preliminary meeting. Doesn't surprise anyone here. End quote. There's a lot to peel away here, Doctor Trey first and foremost, and once again, Shane McMahon and Tony Kahn had a meeting. Is he aw bound?

6:20 Maybe? I just don't think it's as soon as some people are projecting. Like you mentioned to me, this is kind of a leverage play. This is him seeing what's out there, what's available. Obviously, like you said, he's had interest and come back to WWE to be rebuffed. Well, Hey, if I'm WWE and the sun of our longtime owner is about to go to our competition, maybe I should take that meeting a little more seriously and start seeing what's up for him. He's got leverage in the sense of, you know, he spent so much time in China, working with net with their networks and distribution channels out there, that this could be a great move for AEW to bring somebody who has those kind of connections to get more distribution in China. It makes sense on a name value as well, So it's a very smart move on Shane's part to try to get a ball rolling that may have been stuck for a while.

7:20 Yeah, the entire thing is just overall shocking to me. There's always been this weird rumor that there was potential tension between Triple H, Stephanie and Seane McMahon and maybe that's what led him leaving the company over a decade ago before he returned in the last five to ten years. Do you think that there's tension there, because I know there's always tension, weird awkwardness and families in general. But there have been personal photos out there where it was Triple H at Shane McMahon's son's high school graduation, which wasn't that long ago. I think it was like two three years ago, and they are families, and it doesn't seem like to me from the outside looking in obviously that either Shaan McMahon nor Stephanie are jackass anyway. If anything, what I've always heard is that Stephanie McMahon is like a great businesswoman but a sweetheart, and Shane McMahon is a smart businessman, but he's like one of the guys. Like, where do we think of the family aspect of this entire thing? Because this is this is shocking, because there is the Tony Kahn element, which I will get to here momentarily, because I know for a fact, if Tony Kahan spoke about my dad in any way like he has, I would never meet with the guy. If anything, I'm punching him in the face.

8:29 I think, you know, when it comes to McMahon's as a whole, we shouldn't look at them through. Normal family lenses. I guess as a way of putting it, it's a very unique family, and I'm sure at some point there was tension between Shane, Triple Ah and Stephanie, especially you know early on we go back to you know, you and I go back to our fanoms for a very long time, you go back to the WCW attitude era of Wars, and for a long time, these was always that Vince was going to pass the company to Shane, and then all of a sudden, it became Shane and Stephanie, and then Triple H gets factored in, and then you guys are wondering, like, was was Triple H really kind of more the son that Vince always wanted, maybe a little more than Shane, you know, Shane going off and doing his own thing, prodigal son type of this situation.

9:21 Like, it's a. Very unique dynamic within that family. I mean, there was there were rumors a year or two ago that Stephanie and Triple H were about to divorce, and that hasn't come out. There's you know, Vince and Linda and their marriage, and obviously Vince has a girlfriend, but he's still married. I mean that that family is not your traditional American nuclear family. So I understand your point, Like, if somebody talked about my dad that way, I wouldn't talk to him. But this is not a normal family with normal things that go on in it. So once again, Shane's got a son that's in college, who's. You know, you know, a Division I athlete. He's got another son in high school.

10:02 Obviously there's some things that he still wants to accomplish in the world of professional wrestling. And then also maybe open the doors for his kids to eventually move into the realm of professional wrestling. So hey, like I said earlier, if I can. Get this ball rolling, whether it's WWE or AEW, let me see if I can't open some doors for my kids as well as for me and kind of keep the family tradition alive, so to speak. Furthermore, I mean all things encompassing here to me, after everything I've known in professional wrestling as a wrestling fan, this is, while very shocking, such McMahon move as a family. I mean, this is such a McMahon move where they will put business ahead of anything personal. I mean, Tony Kahan has taken absolute dumps on your family's business and everything that they do that they're responsible for and more, and has dragged your father's name through the colls like if you looked at the first couple of year years of AW even prior to Tony Kahn and interviews refer to Vince mcmannon as like his hero, one of his heroes, a guy that he wanted to sit down and have dinner with. I remember reading at one time. As time went on and WW, according to Tony Kahn, did things that were a little bit shady off business practice things that he didn't like. He ran that name through the coles as much as possible. He referred to w W as the Harvey Weinstein a professional wrestling And why is that because of the stuff that's going on with Vince McMahon and the potential court case of sex trafficking, human trafficking,

11:36 what have you? You know, doctor Trey mentioned, is this going to open the door to Vince coming? I don't think Vince is ever coming to aw given the current circumstances he's dealing with from a legal standpoint. However, this is just to me such a McMahon move and there's going to be some weird ill will in w W where Shane is not welcomed. There's this story from twenty twenty one's Royal Rumble match where Shane was brought in. He was the producer and he was tasked to run that match and according to reports, like he it was such a clusterfuck, which if you go back and you watch that Royal Rumble match, it was excuse me, twenty twenty two Royal Rumble was the was the one that was like a huge, huge clusterfuck. It was a bad Royal Rumble, and he did all these spots to make himself look good, which rubbed people the wrong way. He was written out of storylines. Vince didn't want to bring him back anything like that. But time and time again, Russell Manty thirty nine, here comes Shane McMahon. He's back out there. He's dancing, he's tearing his squads and in an impromptu match with the Miz and he's on the shelf and we haven't seen him sist since. It's it's bizarre in a world of professional wrestling where you can get a little bit of stories here and there as to how people feel about a specific person, especially somebody

13:07 like a McMahon, like Shane McMahon. It is a tough read Doctor Trey, because there are stories out there, maybe they're filtered by Shane and his people, that say he's a great guy, very fun to work with, people love having him around, he's one of the boys. And then you get these stories out there as well that he's a businessman, he tries to put himself over, he's not as well liked as he's perceived. Somewhere in the middle. As always, Doctor Trey is the truth and all in all, this is a very strategic move by Shane. But I can't get past the fact that if he loves his dad, if he has a good relationship with his dad, still, how the hell can he meet with Tony Kahan. I mean, nothing really surprises me.

13:48 But you know, I don't follow Shane on LinkedIn, but since WrestleMania thirty nine, we really haven't heard about him doing anything, you know, So like I said, like this is a way for him to kind of. Get his name out there again. See what's out there. See if if by him meeting with aw maybe TKO gets a little interested. It is weird, and I love that you brought this up that there is almost like two different Shanes, and a lot of it seems to be the Shane prior to leaving in the Shane coming back. Like the Shane priorly. It's what always heard a great guy, one of the boys, you know, didn't mind doing all the crazy stuff like getting suplex through glass at King of the Ring, loved all that stuff.

14:30 But then the shame since you know, kind of the last few years where he. Became kind of the quote unquote, you know, hell in a cell spot monkey type Shane, like what's he going to dive off of this time. It's a different Shane that we hear about. And it might be because he's trying to impress the kids, or he's trying to like stay relevant or something like that. I don't know what it is, but it does feel like there's two different trains of thought when it comes to Shane McMahon the person and you know you mentioned you know, if you love your dad, why did you take this meeting? If you love your sister and her husband is the seat with the Chief Content Officer, the CCO of WWE, you know, by taking this meeting and putting out that god awful picture, Uh, it's gonna get back and it's gonna it's gonna ruffle some feathers. So it's a strategic move in the sense of it's getting my name out there and something is going to happen because I took this meeting.

15:27 So this is the Shane businessman part playing out more than anything else. All in all, at the end of the day, from both Tony Kahan and Shane McMahon, is this a potential business opportunity? Absolutely? Is this an opportunity for Shane to join aaw Absolutely? But what does this move overall? This is a total fuck you move from both Tony Kahan and Shane McMahon to wa We are going into SummerSlam week in a couple of days. Unless things change, there will be a press conference following Somelam. Triple H will be taking questions. I can almost guarantee that one of the first three questions asked of him will be absolutely one hundred and ten percent this entire story of Tony Kahan and Seae McMahon meeting, how the company feels, how the family feels, and there'll be some sort of political response.

16:20 I can almost guarantee that he has been prepped to already answer this question from his PR team, that this is everything is going to be laid out on the table to a degree. So I mean they're still in headlines. We are opening up the show heading into SummerSlam weekend, one of the second biggest show that they do in Wae, soon to be a two night event in a couple of years. By talking about Sean McMahon meeting with Tony Khan and a little bit of hell freezing over more than anything I've ever seen, I mean this talk about Brett Hart coming back, talk about Ultimate Warrior coming back, see him Punk coming back to w WE. Those are are like steps below a McMahon meeting with Tony Kahan, while there are McMahon's or family members tied to McMahon family still involved with WA. I mean, this is this is mind blowing in a lot of ways, but at the end of the day, Doctor Trey, I think this is a total f you move from both Tony Kahan and Shane McMann to WA.

17:22 Yeah, I love if you said, you know, I'm sure Trip Place is getting prepped by the PR team. I'm sure he's getting prepped by his sister or by by his wife. Like it's it is a complete f you move, and you know you're alluding to like the hell freezing. I mean, we just had Jesse Ventura appear at Monday Night Raw this past week, Like Jesse and WW have not gotten along very well over the last eleven years, and we're starting to show off about with Shane and Tony Khan. Because this is not Becky Lynch taking a meeting with Tony Khan. This is not a talent to a free agent talent taking. This is the brother in law of the man who runs this company. Taking a meeting with direct competition like that's I swear to God to.

18:09 Yes. I'm like, I really want to see a McMahon Helmsley Thanksgiving. I just want to see what the hell goes on at one of those things when the grandkids are gathered around, everybody's there. How is there not how to fight breakout at the Thanksgiving dinner that we find out about over the past fifteen years with this family, It's it's mind blowing. Is there any part of you that think that there's a little bit of an inside job like that Shane is still team Triple H and Stephanie team W and is taking this meeting to kind of like, I don't know, not ruffle feathers and we but like make people laugh in w Like let's talk about conspiracy theories here.

18:51 I mean the best conspiracy theory would be like Shane and his dad are still tight das not in the company anymore by taking this meeting. It's not Vince meeting with Tony con but kind of the same similarities we talked about a couple of years ago when Vince retired but all of his generals are still in place, and was he still kind of running the show. Maybe this is a way for them. Maybe Shane's the intermediary between Tony and Vince and that's the buffer to kind of get that ball rolling. And at some point, I mean in Vince could have his two kids working for the working for competing companies, and then how much power does Vince have if he's got a son in AAW and a daughter or a son in law running WWE. Like that's the ultimate chess move, is that when you can put your pawns in place to help run two different companies.

19:44 Last thing I want to talk about here in regards to the entire thing, So let's just say, for conversation's sake, AW signed Seae McMahon, Shay mcmann's and the company. Does that get you excited for the AW product or is it just one of those things where it's like a car crash that you can't stop staring at and you just want to see him man standing in the all elite wrestling ring. I mean, on one hand, it would get me excited if he's brought in to help distribution and maybe help negotiate the Warner brother deal or something like that, something that's actually in his wheelhouse of being a businessman. I don't know how excited I get about Shane being in a ring with anybody in aew because that means we have to see Shane's punches and kicks again. And any longtime listener of this show knows how much Jeff Peck loves watching Sean mcmanh throw punches and kicks.

20:33 Oh, I mean Sean McMahon, the person, the personality, the character on TV. I'm all there for. If you're a longtime listening to this podcast, you know Seane McMahon the executive being on an even playing field with anybody in professional wrestling is not good at all. I mean, there is nobody on a w roster that should be like giving him as much offense as he did, or putting him in spots with aj Styles the Miz. But now I'm getting on a tangent which doctor Trevis was hoping I would do. But very very very bizarre. I thought again, Drew McIntyre Jack Perry picture was out of control in a while, and mind blowing that picture, Tony Kahan Shay McMahon just as equally mind blowing. I just heard you say, Oh, doctor Trey, everything all right?

21:16 Yeah, I get these great ideas every soft that popped in my head. And you know, there there's been talk about the rebranding of Ring of Honor and bringing it more Cyprian. And then we get Shane in a Ring of Honor ring saying, yes, the contract has been signed, but there's a big man owning Ring of Honor, and then we end up getting some kind of Ring of Honor aw invasion angle. Wasn't that the joke when he when he when con was about to announce that he was becoming the owner of r O H. They somebody was like, is the big ant is the contract? Say Shane on it? Or and he said, Shane's not here. That would be pretty funny. But there you go, Tony Kahan and Shane O. Mack meeting Mono E Mono to discuss potential business opportunities in the world of professional wrestling. We'll have to keep an eye on that moving forward. I thought it was a pipe dream, and then they met and then a photo was taken and the world has been in an uproar here the restling world in the last week heading into SummerSlam, keeping with AW Doctor Trey is announced on last night's edition of Dynamite that the Brian Danielson Swerve Strickland main event match for the AW World haaweight Championship will now be a career versus title match, Daniel Brian saying that if he cannot defeat Swerve Strickland, his career will be over at aw all In. This is interesting because it came off some reports this past week in regards to Brian Danielson's current physical condition going into aw all In.

22:48 This comes to us from Wrestling Inc. Via Fightful Select reporting the following saying that fight Full Select reports that a recent interviewed Danielson cut with Renee Piquette. This is the one where Jeff chair Is cuts him off, gets interrupted and all that stuff where he stated that an AW doctor Michael Sampson didn't want him competing till aw all In had some truth to it would a Wembley Stadium show on the rise in aw doctors have put restrictions on Danielsen leading into the show, with said restrictions preventing Danielson from participating in angles or matches that he had planned for previously. Regardless, while Danielson has banged up, it was known that Danielson has long been planned to being the Wembley main event, and it appears there was never consideration of him moving from the spot. Also confirmed was that Danielson's talent contract with the AW would expire in August first, something else Danielsen discussed in his interview with Piquette. He also mentioned it on last night's Dynamite. However, no one should expect to see Danielson elsewhere anytime soon, as there's an active plan for him to remain involved with AW over the next month and possibly beyond. Regarding any questions on whether Danielson's plans to leave resting full time or legit, that is believed to be the case and that Danielson will be at best a part time wrestler wants his current AW run comes to an end.

24:01 End quote here, that's tray. There's a lot of layers to it. I'm excited for AW all in. I'm excited for the build. The build has been very good overall for the show heading into the late August. I'm excited about this match because these are two of my favorites. They added the stipulation, I am that much more intrigued. Your thoughts on everything that is being discussed behind the scenes regards to Brian Danielson's physical condition heading into All In, and now the stipulation beat added to the main event match with swar Strickland. Yeah, I'm not a fan of stipulations like this being added when you know somebody's contrast kind of up and you hear these reports, because then it's like, okay, well, if if Brian Danielson wins, is he actually able to be able to defend the title, like or is he you know, is he too beat up to do that?

24:50 Because you and I both know that this match with him and Swerve is gonna be very, very physical. Swerve does not have easy matches. Everything looks tough and hard and violin and your body's basically put through a car crash coming out of it. So it just I don't like needing to add this layer onto it, like we could literally have the match and then Brian comes out on Wednesday following you know, all In and do his little, you know, another retirement speech. I mean, I to me, it's just like an unnecessary thing to add on to it. But you know, if it adds intrigue and advice, I guess I'm fine with it. Just as a longtime fan. I'm just not a huge fan of these things when there's so much out in the open about the surrounding circumstances leading into it.

25:37 See. I think that's where we different because I think this adds to a little bit of intrigue because of the stuff that's going on behind the scenes. Obviously aw knows it's out there, they're having them talk about it in interviews. It's the interesting part that doesn't make sense that I will agree with you on is his contract status saying that he will no longer be an active performer, and it's like, okay, well, then what are you gonna do. You're gonna put the championship Bonham and he's going to perform once every four months. Isn't that what you bashed we on when they were doing like the lesnar Roman reign stuff. So that part I'm totally with. I say, like twenty five percent of this entire thing to seventy five percent I'm like excited and intrigued with is I'm wondering if we're getting worked a little bit in this entire thing, and maybe he is doing a full time run before he goes or the plan is if he is a champion, he's going to do full time. Still, maybe these stories that he's putting out there, that the Dirt Sheets are putting out there are a little bit tongue in cheek, a little bit fabricated to make people all pun intended swerve when it comes to the match that's coming up there between he and Strickland at aw all In on August twenty fifth. So it does it blurs the lines of reality, which is what we like in professional wrestling. If we sit here the day after all In and Swerve, Strickland's won and Daniel Bryan has said goodbye, maybe we'll be critical of a little bit more of the direction they had for this match heading into it and all those stories being let out, especially from the aw side of things in their YouTube programming

27:08 and then their actual programming on Dynamite. But if he wins the championship, there's gonna be like that week where it's like, okay, so what's happening here with Brian Danielson, And I find that intriguing. I don't know what it is. I think career title versus title matches Doctor Trey they always interest me. It's it's something anytime that there's a career on the line like this, It's probably one of the most intriguing stipulations you can have. And I think the only thing that envied that for me as a professional wrestling fan my entire time and watching the sport was when Undertaker perform at wrestlming the street was on the line. Like career matches where wrestless careers on the line, I've always found very, very intriguing over the years.

27:51 I think I go back to I think it was wrestling in twenty six career versus streak and for me, and maybe this is why I have such a huge Sean Michaels fan. Going into that match, I kind of knew it was his last match, and I think there's part of me that just goes, man, I really don't want this to be the last match. And in this situation now, one thing I'll say about this situation in particular is that over the five years, aw can keep secrets when they want to keep secrets, and they can put stuff out and make us talk about it and make us think about it when that's the. Rest sure they want to go. So in this situation, you're absoually right, this may be a complete work. This may be them putting something out there to get guys like you and I talking about it, to create that extra layer of intrigue in everything else, and then for it to all be, like you said, like a lack of a better term, a swerve and Brian's got another year, year and a half run on him and we get Brian Danson title matches for three months straight.

28:50 I mean, it could be all work. And that's one of the things at least with AW that they do well is if they want something to get out to lead into storylines or create some in they do it. If they want things to be quiet, they can keep stuff quiet. It's just like in this situation career versus titles, like I don't know if you needed the extra layer on it, but if this is all to get us all talking, they've done a great, fantastic job. Yeah. I look at some of the histories there and we're gonna name a lot of WrestleMania stuff, but Ultimate Warrior and Macho Man Randy Savage. I think that was WrestleMania seven when they had a career match, and then you had Rick Flayer, Shawn Michael's wrestlmant in twenty four, the one that Doctor Trade has talked about Undertaker versus shown Michael's Wrestlemanti. It's twenty six Street versus Career. Going back to my point of like two things that I love the most for stipulations would be to streak when it was the Undertaker had at WrestleMania then then a career match, and they did it all on one shot, which ironically was enough. Was the very first WRESTLEMANI we ever covered here on the history of the So Real Ties show. So really intriguing stuff. Interested to see where the build goes and I like the lines of reality being blurred a little bit here and we'll see if they can continue forward with that with the creative in over the next couple of weeks. Heading into this match, so Swerve, Strickland, Brian Daniels, and AW All in career versus title match. A lot of good buzz around AW this week as we're going into a show preview and predicting w SummerSlam, and the first two topics at the

30:21 top of the show is stuff that is going on and buzz going on with AW and that's what you want. You want good buzz. You don't want bad buzz You want good buzs switching to WWE Doctor Trey. There's a report out there, according to a press release that was released by the London government, and this comes to us from Wrestling Inc. That w officials were in London last week meeting with them in regards to bringing WrestleMania to the European capital in the near future. And as revealed in this press release issued by the London Government, the Mayor of London, Sadik Khan, met with w President Nick Cohn a lot of cons here on this episode of s R to You w Chief Content Officer Paul Triple h Levec on Thursday, with the intent of discussing the possibility of bringing a future wrestlminging event to England's capital city of London. For Conn, this marked an opportunity to make progress in his mission to perform to platform more North American international sports in London. Did you sneeze, doctor try?

31:17 Yeah, I'm sorry. I was trying to hit my mute button. Couldn't get to it. No, No, God bless you that that dound like a bad sneeze. Get those allergies checked out, saying quote, London is a great pedigree and hosting the biggest international sporting events from around the globe. And I'm determined to cement our city's reputation as the undisputed sports capital the world as we work together for a better London for everyone, said TV. It's exciting to be working with the weteam. The meeting was very was really productive and talks will continue about how we could turn our ambition into reality. As pointing out by the VAC, WWE in London every long and successful history that dates back several decades, including nineteen ninety two SummerSlam pl which had emanated from the world famous Wembly Stadium. As of twenty twenty four, though w has yet to take its granded stage outside of North America, something that that sixteen times world champion John Cena previously campaigned had change my specifically bringing it to the prosperous city of London. During W Money in the Bank twenty twenty three. Coming out of w's meeting, Nick Cohn indicated that further talks were needed, but so far they appear to be promising to Decon and his team are working harder positioning London as a sport and entertainment capital of Europe, and it has been great to hear more on his vision for how w can support them on that journey. Nick Kahn said, so, doctor Trey Twofold here, One do you want to see WrestleMania out of North America and over into Europe? And two is London the right spot to have the very first WrestleMania off us soil?

32:43 So excuse me, North American soil. For me personally, to have it in London would be fine because most WrestleManias are outside my budget, so I can't really get to most WrestleManias, and you know, doing one in London, for me, the visual would be spectacular. London's a beautiful, beautiful city. I am a little surprised that we're you know, we're coming up, we're coming up on you know, WrestleMania forty one, and we've never even done one in Canada, you know, for that for that regard, So what. We did we did Toronto, Toronto WrestleMania six and eighteen. So nothing outside of North America. So it is a little surprising that they haven't made this move yet. But I think London's a fantastic choice. We've seen how successful it was in Wales. We've seen how successful ww's been in France. We've seen how successful AAW has been in Wembley Stadium. So it makes sense, especially if ww's trying to counter I don't say counter program but counter business AW by sticking at WrestleMania in London. Does that now maybe diminish what an all in is when it's in London. Uh, Not to mention, London is kind of like the backyard of Tony and Shad Kahn's family. I mean they literally own soccer teams there. They do the London football games with the Jaguars there. The Jaguars have been rumored to move to London before. It is one of those things where's like, hey, it's good for business and in a sense you can kind of stick it to AW by working a deal out with London to bring WrestleMania there.

34:15 Yeah, it's it's a really intriguing proposition right now. I'm excited for I think it should go to London. I think that crowded London is going to be off the hook like one of the best WrestleMania crowds of all time. It's something that we typically see from the European crowds when they go over there, they hijack the show and you're like, man, the European crowds got it, they bring it, and to get those soccer hooligans, football hooligans cheering on for some wrestling, cheering on for some WrestleMania, they are going to be hype, they are going to be excited. There was a great crowded aw all in last year and it's because of all the excitements around in it. And maybe this is another fu back from WE to AW. Like if AW was able to do eighty three eighty four thousand for all in wwe may try to do more than that and go to Wembley Stadium and outdo them even more. So it's a really intriguing business proposition, which there's been plenty of these discussed on this week's edition of SRTU. And I really hope it comes to Frussian because I think the London crowd deserves it, they want it, and I think it would be a really really awesome experience and it would be a wrestlemanting that would be daytime. So I'm here for I think like a noontime WrestleMania. Sign me up and we am not like dead tired for the rest of the absolute weekend.

35:31 It goes on because Wrestlemantia Weekend, as we all know, is an absolute grind my friends. With that said, let's shift gears, Doctor Trey and preview and predict WWE Summer Slam. It comes to us this Saturday from Cleveland Brown Stadium in Cleveland, Ohio. It is the formerly known as Biggest Party the Summer. I don't know if they're still using that tagline to promote Summer Slam this year. Nonetheless, let's get into it. The hometown boy, one of the hometown boys, is the miss He's hosting it. The other hometown boy, Logan Paul, is defending the w United States Championship against La Night Doctor Trey. I have a tough time calling this one, but I think Logan retains in the hometown. I'm gonna take Logan Paul.

36:11 See. This is when this has been tricky for me because, you know, with Cody being on SmackDown full time and. Seeing the world title. Usually if this was Roman in charge, I jump on the La Night train because that whether the US title be featured more, Uh, you kind of have I don't want say I don't want to call Logan Paul a part time champion, made me a three quarter champion. I think I'm gonna take La Knight. I know it's it's Logan's hometown, but I think I'm gonna take La nine just because I mean, the dudes kind of do like it's it's been He's had a year and a half run without a title, and he's been maybe one of the hottest acts in the company during that time. If you don't pull the trigger now, I don't know if you ever pulled the trigger with La Knight. Interesting. Interesting, So you go in La Night. I am going Logan Paul. Next match, sure, Doctor Trey is for the Intercontinental Championship as Sammy z Aan defense against bron Breaker.

36:57 Who do you like in this one? I'm going to old school here. I'm going off what I saw on Raw, which is Samy had the upper hand. So I'm gonna take bron Breaker at SummerSlam. Yeah, I'm gonna take the same like logic that you have with La Knight winning the United States Championship, and it's the same way I feel about the Intercontinental title. So I think if you're gonna pull the trigger, you pull it now and he has so much upside. A ton of poise and opportunity awaits the career of bron Breaker. He took the l the month before. I think now is the time to put the title on him. So I'm gonna take bron Breaker to win the Intercontinentald Championship as well. Next match is Bailey defending the WA Women's Championship against Naya Jacks. This is another tough one to call, Doctor Trey, because there's the Tiffany Stratton element that is hanging above this entire thing. I'm gonna take Bailey to win the WA Women's Championship. Pardon me wants to add I think Tiffany Stratton comes down and cashes in and leaves SummerSlam with the title, which then leads to issues between her and Naya Jacks. But if they do that, then my creative complaint for their creative would be I wish they built up their relationship and friendship a little bit more, so I'd like to see that play out.

38:10 I'll tad bit more, but I'm gonna take Bailey to retain the title. Yeah. I've kind of gone back and forth because like, I don't know about you I've really been a fan of Naya over the last like six months. I agree, and like she's been really really good. Her in ring work's gotten better. We don't have nearly as many of the accidents as she had before. The Bailey run hasn't been great, so it really wants me to pick Naya, But I like your logic. I think I'm gonna take Bailey to retain because the storyline I think needs a little more depth between Tiffany and Naya to really flush it out. So I'm gonna take Bailey retaining as well. Next match here is Live Morgan defending the Women's World Championship against Rhea Ripley. Another tough one to call, Doctor Trey, Who do you like in this one?

38:56 It's the Dominic mysterio factor. I don't know where Dominic's allegiance lies at this point, Like I know has been played up that he's back with Mommy, but you know this could be a big, big screw job and really make an even more hated is if he screws over Rhea and kind of either leaves the judgment day or takes Carlito with him and they do their own thing. I'm gonna take Live sneaking out in the victory and retaining right now, and just because I want to create more depth in this whole things, so I'm gonna take Live retaining the title. I'm gonna take Live Morgan retaining the championship as well. And I feel like either the Live Morgan rear Ripley match or the Damien Priest Gunther match. One of those matches I feel like right now is it either opens Summer Slam or it's like one of the first two matches at SummerSlam, and I think there's some sort of screw job in either one of those. In both those matches, I'll say I think there's a screw job in this one.

39:49 I think Dominic Masterio turns on rear Ripley. The best way I can describe this for longtime wrestling fans is the feeling I have for this one is the WrestleMania fifteen storyline where I think China turned on Cain and reunited with Triple H after turning her back on DX and Triple H. And then later in the night, XPOC had some sort of match against Seane McMahon and China and Triple H helped Sea McMahon defeat x PAC and they join the corporation. So there's like this period of time where it felt like maybe China was back with d X and I may have this all turned around.

40:32 No, you're pretty close. You're pretty close on this. I remember this, so you remember that story, and it was a really unique storyline that played out during a pay per view, and I think that this we something see similar, see something similar to this at SummerSlam where Ria either get screwed first, Damien gets screwed first, and then later in the show you've got like this huge, one big screw job and then you've got Damien rid Ripley on their own island coming out of SummerSlam starting on Monday Night Raw. So I'm spoiling what I have for my thoughts on Damien Priest. But nonetheless, like Doctor Trey, I have Lived Morgan retaining the Women's World Championship as well. Next match here, Doctor Trey, I guess, let's get to it. Damian Priest defends the World of Weight Championship against Gunther.

41:14 I'll go first. I already kind of shared my opinion on this one. I think Gunther wins the World Heavyweight Championship heading into Bash of Berlin and there's some sort of screw job against Damien Priest. Yeah, I that was kind of my thought process as well, because if you look at it, Judgment Day as a group is a heel faction. You've seen Finn, You've seen with j D McDonough, Carlito Dominic, but Damian Priest and Rhea are booked as babyfaces. So what you were saying earlier, I had the same thoughts. One of the things when my clues was on Raw, how Gunther kind of put over his admiration for Finn Balor as well heading into that match. So I'm went, I'm taking guntherer.

41:55 To win and some kind of Finn Balor or Finn Balor lived Morgan, Dominic, Carlito, j D mcdonne' screw job to basically excommunicate Damian Priest and Rhea Ripley from the Judgment Day. So they go, both of us going on some sort of screw job. I think, if you're gonna do this, it has to happen in SummerSlam, and you have to have something memorable at a memorable show. You can't save it for like Bash of Berlin or anything else after that. So i think it's happened in SummerSlam. Next match here, I'm really stoked for this one. Cmpunk versus Drew McIntyre with Seth Freakin Rollins. It's a special guest referee. Obviously, everybody's getting Sumerslam ninety seven vibes with Brett Hart versus Undertaken with Sean Michaels as the referee in that one. This is gonna be an exciting one, Doctor Trey. This is arguably, at least in my opinion, we's few of the years so far and they have not even wrestled one single match, Doctor Trey, Who do you like in this one? Cmpunk versus Drew McIntyre.

42:46 See, it was weird because up until Monday, I was like all on the Drew McIntire trade, but then they referenced SummerSlam ninety seven during raw and I'm like, man, they can't do the same exact finish, so that kind of screws it up. Do you have Drew Louse, who really hasn't won a big match in a while. Do you have Punk lose his first in ring singles match back, Like, this was really really hard for me. I'm gonna take Drew getting the win, just because I think Drew needs it more than Punk, and then this can set up Punk and Rollins to go off on their own thing. So I'm gonna take Drew getting the win here at SummerSlam. Yeah, I like you, Doctor Trey. Drew McIntyre getting the victory as well. I think maybe Seampunk spoiled this match.

43:34 In an interviewer I read, he was asked about his feud with Drew mcatyre and he said it's been like good or whatever. He's enjoyed it, but he's he's won and done after SummerSlam and he wants to move on to something else. I don't think that was in like a character thing. I think that was like legitimately how he felt, which is a shame because this field has been brilliant and they haven't wrestled one single match. So once I saw that, I was like, all right, Seth Freaking's Rollins is causing seam Punk the match, and Drew mcatyre gets a victory, and then we see Drew McIntyre. Maybe he goes off to Bash of Berlin to take on count for the World Away Championship, and then Seampunk versus Seth Freaking Rowlinds, which is the match we thought was going to be getting taking place at Wrestlemanda forty now gets built up for however long. Maybe it's immediate, Maybe it's at the end of this month of Bascher Berlin.

44:20 Maybe it's held until Survivor series that was just announced for Vancouver and November thirtieth. So both of us taking Drew Mcatarre in this one, and both of us having some sort of another screw job where Seth freaking Rowlins costs Seampunk the match, and then that takes us to the undisputed w Championship match. Doctor Trey's Cody Rhodes defends against Solo Socoa. I will go first in this one. I am gonna take Cody Rhoads to retain the undisputed w WEE Championship. And I also have Roman Reigns making his long waited return and a long weight it's only been like four three or four months to WAI to kick off his feud with the new blood line Solo, so Coa's bloodline moving forward. So I've got Cody Roads retaining Doctor Trey.

45:03 Yeah, I have Cody retaining as well as much as I like Solo. I don't think he's world champion material, Like, I don't think he's a world champion character yet, I still think he's got a little bit to go, and I think the return of Roman Reigns and him being featured in his storyline with Old Bloodline New blood Line will help elevate him to that level. This also goes into my Sammy's name prediction as well, because all the talk of Sammy on Monday Night about you know, his being able to be in the ring with his dog jay Usso, and jay Usso making the save against the Judgment Day does kind of lead credence to Og Bloodline versus New Bloodline. At some point. So I'm taking Cody retaining.

45:45 I think Roman makes the save to close out the show when the New blood Line is beating down Cody and Roman makes the saves. Doctor Trey who main events SummerSlam. I'm gonna go Cody and solo. Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't like if you took Roman out of the equation, I would I would have probably given it to Drew and Seth. But if you're gonna have Roman Reigns and that save may not be him actually physically interacting with Solo, but more just making the appearance and the bloodline backing down. But if you're having Roman appear on the show, then Cody and Solo got to close out the show. Yeah. I think Roman is appearing and I think they close it out. And if they open up the show, Roman's not appearing. I can't say that being something that opens up the show like Roman's back and people are buzzing.

46:30 If they are the main event, then get ready to put your ones up because the tribal chief is making his return to w W. There are four legit matches that you could argue should be in the main event spot Live Morgan, Ria, Ripley, Punk and Drew with Seth as the referee, Priest Gunther, and Cody and Solo. But both of us are in agreement here. That'll be Cody and Solo closing out the show on Saturday night. So there you go. W SummerSlam preview predictions in the books. We will recap and review it for you all on next week's edition of SRTU on August eighth. With that said, let's close up shop on this week's sesition the show and get a couple of plugs and sponsors out of the way. You can down the show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guy Radio dot com, Russell Chattinet on x Senister a Real Test Show, iTunes feed don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help uscom the charts on iTunes or anywhere else you get podcasts and download the show from. You could follow us individually on X for myself at SRTU Jeff, and for Doctor Trey Franklin at The Doctor Trey, and of course don't forget the follow show on X at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what is going on in the one ful world of Doctor Trey Franklin this week?

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