Which Group of Free Agents Had The Biggest Impact in 2024? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #771 – 11/21/24

0:00 It's still. Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition this No Realda Show EPISO number seven and seventy one for November twenty first, twenty twenty four. Welcome to your aw full year preview and Predictions edition of f RT. You. I am one half the show. I am Jeff Peck joined every single week my coast one only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. I felt like this was the first time I did a normal introduction again, my friend.

0:44 I know there was part of me that felt so bad for the listeners because the last few weeks you've kind of struggled on the welcome part. But yeah, no, you sound great. I was you were talking off here. I feel horrible. I feel completely under the weather. So I blame myself for kind of semi mocking. You to myself. But you know, between you being sick and then having you know, Luke throw up all over you right before last week's show, you've had it rough. So I guess this is my this is my karmic retribution coming back on me for you know, just kind of like laughing quietly to myself about your your struggles the last couple of weeks. It all comes back in different ways. My friend, I actually like remember doing the intro of the last two weeks and it's like does my voice have enough to get there? And it would get there, but it's undlike shit.

1:33 So I apologize to everybody. We pushed through here seven and seventy one straight weeks of SRTU and you know, can't miss it. So here we are. We're an injured bunch here on srt you each and every week, and we are racking up the doctor's bills between Doctor Trey and I just on sicknesses alone, all the other stuff, surgeries, whatever, you that's a whole nother bucket for another, a whole nother day. Welcome to this week's edition of sr T It's it's not I said, Doctor Try and I are here talking with one other that Packers and Niners. Our teams are going into a big show down this weekend. It is in November and not in January, where January Doctor Tray's team typically kicks the ass of my team, the Green Bay Packers. But here we are in November.

2:16 Dot Tray and I are are. We're on good terms right now, right going into this. There's no beef here there's no feud. No, I mean, I think we're good because all in all, the biggest thing about the season, like, look, there's a competitive rivalry between Packers and Niners. I don't think there's a hatred. But the Cowboys suck this year, which I think makes everybody happy. See, that's always the one that for those that are not an NFL fans, football fans, American football fans, and my apologies, but for those that are, you're gonna get what I'm saying is you could have a rival, semi rival because I think Niners and Packers I liked this semi rivalry. It's like a B plus. It's like a B plus rivalry. I think it's always on respect and it's as long as I've remembered this rival read Doctor Trey. It's there was a period of time where the Niners dominated, then there was a stretch of time where the Packers dominated, and right now we're in the stretch of time where the Niners have dominated, like the last ten years. And that's not typically how a rivalry goes. So I would just say it's like one of those showdowns you get excited about, Like even me outside looking in speaking about your Niners. Whenever I see Cowboys versus Niners, I'm like, that's exciting because that reminds me of the nostalgic football when I was growing up. Packers Cowboys, Packers, Niners. I feel like it's a triple threat. And as doctor Trey pointed out to while there may be a healthy respect and rivalry between the Green Bay Packers and the San Francisco forty nine Ers, us the Niners fans and all the other NFL fans can all agree upon we hate those Cowboys.

3:44 Yeah. I mean there was a time when I was growing up in Heisland, Arkansas, like everybody Arkansas's a Cowboys fan, and I felt like I was on an island unto myself because every and as also like during the late nineties when they were fantastic and just dealing with that. But then the last thirty years, basically since about ninety five ninety six through now, it's been great. But yeah, whenever I don't want to see him to get hurt, but you know, Dak goes down, backups come in and you're just like, yeah, they're really struggling. This is the best time to kind of beat up on Cowboys. Fans. So I'm like, the only thing I can ever troll Packers fans on right now is well, you're well, as I go, well, your coach came from our coach's coaching tree, so it was kay, yeah, it's like, well, yeah, you're you're good because your coach came from our team. So that's why you guys are so good right now. And you know, the best quarterback you guys had the last twenty years grew up as a Niners fan. So those are the two things I can always kind of troll Packers fans with for the most part, but other than that, I actually respect. Like I've been to Green Bay, it is not a comfortable place to be at times. So the fact that people show up fifty sixty seventy thousand fans to a Packers game in like negative twenty, Yeah, you guys always have my respect.

5:05 For that counterpoints to doctor Trey. They are saying that our best quarterback the last twenty years grew up a Niners fan. I do want to mention that the Niners did pass on that same quarterback for Alex Smith. Yes, I recall it, but that was also not our fault. That was the Jeff Tedford effector all the cal quarterbacks coming into the league sucked. So we're like, well, we'll take a chance on a guy from. Utah because that's how bad Kyle Boehler was in the previous couple drafts. And despite the Niners playing in more Super Bowls than the Kareema Packers in the last twenty five thirty years, Green Bay has won more. Doctor Trey, Yes, yes, and that's only well, well, do we count the do you guys count the AFL championships and stuff?

5:45 Well, they do. They are references thirteen time world champions in the Super Bowl era. Yeah, I mean they're five time champions, but we have five also, champions Championships are championships, right, yeah. So but then you guys have been around for longer, because up until about the mid sixties, San Francisco is not a real place. No, no, it wasn't. We just discovered in the sixties. Speaking of wrestling talk, let's let's tie this all in. So we're talking about the Dallas Cowboys who play in at and T Stadium, which is also the home of WrestleMania thirty eight. I saw a funny statistic this past weekend. Doctor Trey Jake Paul, the brother of Logan Paul, former w United States Champion who took on WWE Hall of Famer Mike Tyson in a boxing match, now has more wins in AT and T Stadium this year than the Dallas Cowboys.

6:39 So does the Texas A and M. Maggie's for there you go, Gigam. I learned that one from the radio show you and I were talking about Haffe or the Colon or the Macroy and Kublic show. That was one of the fancy stats they threw out because Texas A and M in Texas is a big game coming up, I think next Saturday. But yeah, they're like, yeah, Texas AM actually has more wins in AT and T Stadium than the Cowboys do this year. Did you watch the Fight Doctor try to have Netflix? Yes? I did so. By the way, how cool is it that in one year we've had two Hall of Famers be in two big, big events non restling related. You have one Hall of Famer running for president and one Hall of Famer fighting Jake Paul.

7:20 Crazy Yeah, one Hall of Famer who is a two time winner of an election. Now and his countinate is going to be filled with the now separated wife of the former founder, CEO and chairman of the board of World rest Entertainment One, Linda McMahon remembered to be in the Department of Education. But you know how this goes. We don't talk politics nor religion here at this dinner table, that is SRTU. I do have one funny thing about that. So as I got home from work today, they were mentioning Linda McMahon being probably going to be nominated by Trump to head that department. The people on the news mispronounced her last name man macmahone. Never I've never heard it called that, but they referenced her as Linda mcmahone three times and then mentioned her husband, Vince. And it's all because of the lawsuit and things like that.

8:16 But I was I'm. Sitting here like egregiously offended that the news mispronounced McMahon and called it macmahone. I was like, you're not even close. You quit the news at this point. I thought you were going to say they pronounced it like Gerald Briscoe did back in the days of US War in the late nineties. Mister MacMahon, we're not that southern on the news. But yeah, it's just hearing macmahone. I was like, I I because I wasn't even kind of it was like the news was on, the sound was on, but I wasn't really watching it. And then I heard Linda mcmahone. I'm like, macmahone, what the had to turn in? There she was, and I'm like, please, don't do that again. Please somebody correct her, some producer jump in and get in the earbut and say no, it's McMahon, it's bicmahon And I'm like, like, seriously, there's Jim McMahon too.

9:06 There's other McMahon's in the world. This cannot be a foreig and last name that you have never excuse me, ever seen before. And it's just befuddling you to pronounce it. I've never heard it pronounced that way. It just it kind of made me mad, and I had to turn up the news and watch Netflix. Well, Doctor Trey, you and I are old now, so I think we need to do what every old person does. Can you go on their Facebook page and leave like a nasty comment. I actually thought about that. I thought about, like, because I know some people that work at the station, be like, guys, seriously, do we need to have an annunciation class and you guys like to prepare the anchors, like, Hey, we're gonna do a story in this person. This is how you pronounce their name before you go on air.

9:48 Well, you gotta love it. I mean it's so simple, right, I mean you're not. This isn't like crazy. So no, it's not like you're trying to pronounce vivek Ramashwami or whatever that guy's name is. This is a McMahon. They've been around for quite a while. I'm sure you've heard of wrestling at some point in your life and you've heard somebody say the name Vince McMahon. How like it was just like when somebody says something that dumb. I just I can't listen to anything else I say, because I'm like, you've lost all credibility by mispronouncing a simple last name. So, speaking on Netflix, Fight there, Doctor Trace. So there was some news and notes there takeaways, at least for WWE's launch on January the sixth, for Raw one. They released a new logo for Raw which I think looks terrible.

10:32 Looks like it's a Monday night baw baw. And then obviously were you one of the I think like five hundred thousand people out of sixty million, which is absurd that had issues with connections of watching the fight live. Yeah, from like early on, you can kind of. Tell when people tuned in, because it felt like early on I didn't have any issues. I got to about the second middle of the second fight, and it started glitching in. And I live in the middle of nowhere, I live in the country. I thought it was my internet connection, and then I checked my Facebook and I see people all over my Facebook feed talking about the you know, buffering and freezing out. I had to constantly back out and go back in to get to the live feeds. So, yeah, if it was only five hundred thousand, I'm actually surprised the number.

11:20 Is that low. Yeah, it was. I felt like it was more from what you saw on social media, but I think that's what they're reporting. So according to reports, we is obviously concerned about that. I don't think sixty million people will be watching the debut of Monday Night Roll, but I think it could be potentially the biggest audience of all time if there's a lot of hype in this show. Doctor Troy. Yeah, I mean, if you got sixty million for a Tyson fight, which is a nostalgia. I mean, if you say, hey, we're going to have if you throw other Stone called Steve Austin appearance for the first time Monday Row, you're going to draw ten to fifteen at least. I think. I really think there's I was amazed that sixty million people had Netflix because that's like one out of every six people have it, you know, So I'm like, if you can draw ten million, you know, that's a huge, huge get for a wrestling that's as we haven't seen since you know, the nineties, Like that would be a huge number. I think the debut episode will be way more than their the number that they're saying that they get now, like what two to two point five on a good raw. I think I think you'll probably triple that if promoted and you know, hyped the way it should be.

12:26 Yeah, I expect this to be the biggest Monday Night raw of all time. And because it's just the amount of money that Netflix has thrown out their five billion dollars over ten years, Like, I don't think it's out of the roma possibility. You said, like a stone Cold see Boston appearance, I don't think it's out of the roma possibility that the Rock is there and the Rock wrestles on this car. Doctor Trey. Yeah, I like for me, if I'm WWE for the debut, I'm pulling out I'm bringing up everybody that is still around. I'll bring in Hogan. I will find a way to get Flair out of his AAW contract. I'll somehow have Rock and Austin have an interaction in the ring. You know, I will pull out every bell in a whistle I possibly can. Because it is a transitioning not only of networks, but of platforms as well, So you got to make sure everybody knows where you're going. It's not like when they left USA it went to Spike and people had to go find them. You know, this is an entire platform shift and a new way of a new business model as well for them. So you got to make sure that the audience easily confined you. And right now you better make sure Netflix has all their stuff tighten up so you don't go through what they went through with the Tyson Paul flight.

13:37 That is less than eight weeks away, so a lots to discuss in regards to the first edition, of Monday Night Raw on Netflix on January sixth. As we get closer to they announce the Into It Home in Los Angeles, California, the new Arena where the Los Angeles Clippers play that is like this amazing arena right now. If you watch any of the NBA stuff, they this entire section called the Wall, which is just insane to see on television. It's really really cool. Travis Scott, who's a rapper, Doctor Trey, and I'm gonna guess Doctor Tray as listen to his music. I've heard some of it that doesn't really do it for me, but you know, John Cena is being promoted for the show Roman reigns Cody Rhodes. I expect it to be the biggest Raw of all time, and I'm sure we're going to be talking about that a lot here as we get in the month of December and that card starts to take shape, and some more announcements come out for that first show of twenty twenty five and the first on the Netflix era. But the one thing I wanted to talk about here to kick off the show this week, Doctor Trey formally kick off the show was twenty twenty four one of the big themes was going to be the swath of free agents that were going to be available to the market for All Eat Wrestling. We figure there's gonna be a lot of free agency wars as we went into this year, and those certainly existed, but probably not to the degree that we were hoping now that we look back at it.

14:58 We thought that there was gonna be the bidding war of twenty twenty four between AWN and WWE for the rights of MGF that never really came to fruition. We knew will Ospur is gonna hit the market, and by this time a year ago, at the end of twenty twenty three, made his inclinations known that he was going to go to All Elite Wrestling. At the Full Gear pay per view, we announced that in twenty twenty four, there were some glimmer of hopes that maybe Okada does make it interesting he goes to WWE, or at least listens to w he ends up in AW. Mercedes Bone was rumored to potentially be returning to WWW in late twenty twenty three. That didn't work out, and those rumors quickly switched to her eventually signing with AW and it took her three months to debut, and then I guess the real last one for AW was the signing of Bobby Lashley MVP and Shelton Benjamin as the Hurt Syndicate, the former Hurt business in all Elite Wrestling. On the WA side of things, you have the MotorCity Machine Guns, the current w Tag Team champions. They signed with the company, and I think all of us going into this year figured that if mcmg was available, they were gonna be going AW. They had over wrestled Aware I think once or twice, and they had a great relationship with the Buck, so figured they would go there. They flipped the script and ended up in WA. W signed Stephanie Vakor, who's currently performing in an NXT, shortly after she performed at the AW New Japan Pro Wrestling for Bidden Door twenty twenty four pay per view, taking a loss from Mercedes Bone in that match. Then Julia, who has always been rumored to be going over to w W, she appears

16:28 in NXT. Zaria, who is not a real big name per se. I did not know her work heading into this year, but she's been impressive so far in her short time in NXT. And she was known as I Believe Delta in Australia. The last one on the W side of things was a big name in the MLW world. He was a MLW champion for over eight hundred days and that was Jacob Foto signed with the company. Now he's performing with a new bloodline and is one of the big up in coming risers that I could see in two three years time, maybe even shorter as being one of the top stars in the company. WWE certainly believes in him, likes this look, likes his feel, and has big things planned for Jacob fat two down the line.

17:12 So when you look back at everything there, doctor Trey, and you recap the free agents of twenty twenty four, aw Will Osprey, Becazisco Cotta, Mercedes Moone and that hurts syndicate w W WI, Motor City, machine Gun, stephie Vakor, Julia Zari and Jacob Fattwo And maybe there's some free agents I'm missing here. Please feel free to jump in if I am missing Anny. But with that said, which group of free agents had more of an impact for the company that they joined this past year? And that's that's a really I'm doing the math in my head, I'm like, that's actually kind of a tricky question, Like I would say, like just overall impact on their programs, I'd probably give the edge to AW.

17:52 I think Ospray's been a fantastic signing. Uh. He's made me more and more of a fan of his the Mora watch him. Uh. The Okada signing to me has fallen kind of flat over the last few months. The Mode signing was great for AW as far as viewership and getting people's attention, but once again I kind of feel like it's plateaued a little bit. The Heart Syndicate is a great signing. I think there's gonna be a huge They're gonna be huge business, but it's still early in the signing to kind of get a gauge on it. WWE the Women, Julia, Stefanie vacor Tzaria. They're impactful signings for down the road, but being NXT signings, they're not really a huge boom to overall business. I think the Most City Machine Guns is a solid signing, but I don't think it really moves the needle ton. I think Jacob Fatoo signing, I guess, was another one, kind of like the Girls in the sense of it's a really solid signing. He's made an impact, but I think we'll feel his impact more here in a couple years. Because I'm with you, I think he's a future, main event caliber talent. So I think just an overall to each respective company's business, I give the edge to aaw Yeah.

19:12 So the answer to my question impact wise aw WWA, I think the biggest impact is aw right. I think Ospray, Ocada, Monet Hertzyndicate have had the most impact. It gets interesting when you go, all right, which company has done a better job with these free agents though? And I think you can make a strong case that's w A. Right now, Doctor tre MotorCity machine Guns are doing really well, Vakor Juliet Zaria doing very well in NXC. Jacob Fatu is on the rise, like they're doing more to do character development and build them up for the future. While aew like I've loved Ospray, I've loved Osprey twenty twenty four, I would say the final quarter of twenty twenty four he has fallen off a little bit. The stuff with Kyle Fletcher that feud is inter I've seen makes sense.

20:01 Should be a good match on Saturday. But he's fallen off a little bit, and that has nothing to do with its in ring ability, but his character development and time on television Okata. You pointed it out like I don't even I don't know if his contract has very unlimited dates, but I feel like the American audience has not had a great taste of Okada, and maybe that changes for the final five to six weeks of the year with the Continental Classic returning on AW television. Mercedes Monet sort of great out of the gate. I think she has completely fallen off a cliff and I know you are the Mercedes Monet hater and I'm the defender. I am not enjoying her character right now. The stuff with Camill as the brick house as the bodyguard, it has gotten to the point where it makes no sense at all. Why is Camill being booked as like a comedy act? Makes no sense to me at all. Does her syndicate They've done good but it's been a very short time. One of my issues that I have with this past Wednesday's edition Dynamite, Why are we having Bobby Lashley's first match in AW on Dynamite and with little to no fanfare no promotion behind it whatsoever. Bobby Lashley's going to make his AW debut, why are you not saving it for the pay per view on Saturday against Worth Strickland unless he's potentially taken an owl? So impact. Yes, aw's free agents has had more of an impact. Who has done the best job with their free agents though that they've entered this year? I think it's WW.

21:21 We doubt to try, Yeah, but we're not you and I are not surprised by that because that's kind of been the mo for these two companies of the last you know, at least the last two years. Like WW does a better job of developing characters for their television product. AW maybe showcases their talent in ring better, but the character developments not there. Like we have Okada but the Bucks left, So is Ocada still is still the elite? Is Ocada still a heel? Are we going to see a different Okada with the Continental Classic? Like? What are we going to do? Osprey has been enjoyable. I've actually learned more about Osprey during his time. But you know the Mercedes Monette thing that I mean to me, you know I mentioned Kyle Boller.

22:08 I mean this is like the JaMarcus Russell drafting number one by the Raiders. I mean to me, it's a complete. Bust now, like nothing she does looks good and nothing in her problem was look good. It looks like a complete, you know, albatross of a contract the her syndicate early on. So far, I have enjoyed their build. They've this may be the best booked Shelton Benjamin I've ever seen, Like he looks like a legit badass in these matches, and the last stuff is good, and then there's a little bit entry like who else is going to join? But you also have Swerve come out and kind of clean house. Well, you still got to make your heels look like dominate heel faction to create those obstacles for baby Face to overcome. So but ww, I didn't know who Zaria was. I didn't really know who Julia was. I didn't really know who Stephanie Vakor was when they signed I'm interested. I knew a little bit about Jacob Fatoo, and they've done a great job with him and the machine guns.

23:02 God bless him. One of the greatest tag teams of modern generation, but maybe not the best personalities. They've actually tried to give them a personality and then create intrigue around them with talent that can help flush out their characters. Having Champa and Gargato, having the Street profits, getting involved with the Bloodline to win the titles. Those are all characters people care about, so it makes them care about what the machine Guns are doing. And that's so W's just doing a better job of developing those characters. And I would say almost maybe with these signings long term, we might look back in five years and say this class was better for WWE than what aw's classes.

23:42 And the last thing I'll talk about hearing these free aging classes for twenty twenty four Doctor Trey, because I think they are notable. I think there's something that makes an impact on these two brands for years to come, the next five to ten years. Is it's very interesting because Ospriocatta mone were like the big names on the market this year. They all went to AW, which we all suspected that they would, and again we knew a year from now, a year ago that Austray was going there. What's funny is the year has gone on. MotorCity machine Guns would have figured they would have gone to AW. They go to WA Stephanie Vakor you figured she'd go to AW, she goes to WA. Juliazaria Jacobatu always felt like they were W bound, but you started to see a shift in the mid to late part of twenty twenty four where the free agents were considering W more than AW. The AW. AW was like the place for free agents to go because w was a little bit of a cesspool. There was no maybe not as good of an environment as W as AW was. And it's completely one eighty. Both companies have completely won eight and I found that to be very telling doctor Trade that you're seeing more free agents considered WE as a likely landing spot than AW, because I feel like a lot of people that were coming from TNA, coming from the independent scene, coming from Japan, were gonna just they were basically just considering AW and that was it. The only difference here is obviously the hurt syindecon joining WAW later this year, and that's because we let their contracts run out or they were let go like Sheldon Bejamin. So

25:13 I just felt like that was very talent this year, and I think it's something that it's a sign of the time, because AAW is not an enjoyable watch. W is an enjoyable watch, and now you're starting to see that play out with free agents on their likely landing spots as the year has gone on as well. Oh yeah, by the way, you forgot a signing for w the Gorillas of Destiny. Oh yeah, that's a big one. That was another one you would have figured would have gone to AW, right. Yeah, well, I mean technically speaking, I mean they are somewhat related to the bloodline. But yeah, like if with their ties to New Japan, you figured they would tie in with the AW stuff. So well you figure with the Bucks working and Kenny are working with the Bullet Club, right, Yeah.

25:54 Well, I mean the Bullet Club is basically split between the two shows because you still have the finn aj Good Brothers tie in in WWE, and then you have the AAW Kenny Bucks Ja those guys, So the Bullet Club is basically split in half, half on one show, half on the other. They basically have the mid to early twenty tens version of the Bullet Club in w and then the mid to late twenty tens version of the Bullet Club in AAW. But the Good have been around so long they've been parts of both branches. Yes, and Cody was part of the later one and he's in w A so, But. As far as you know, the change in philosophy, I think is the telling part, because you and I have been talking about ever since Vince left, like w's kind of and since the merger especially, like we've changed the business model.

26:43 The guys are people. The workers are getting more time off, they're getting more freedom. We're seeing aj Go wrestle and Noah, you know Shin's k wrestling in Japan, like we're seeing these guys. Lexus King actually had an independent booking in Georgia recently as well, which is something you'd never see all those guys do under the Vince regime. Like you, we're seeing those w talents go in other places. And then the TNA crossover, which I think, although maybe ratings wise isn't as good as the Kenny crossover, the AW crossover, But as far as building talent and highlighting talent, I mean the Joe Henry stuff, the stuff with the Rascals, the Jordan Gray stuff has been good for TNA to get them exposure on NXT television and it allows NXT talents another place to go work outside of that bubble to get that kind of experience. So it's just been a shift in philosophy I think has made it more welcoming for those independent talents to come in and go, Hey, I can come in. I can still kind of do my thing, but just under the format of WW instead of coming in and having to triple my work dates and do whatever. Vince says, there's a lot more flexibility and freedom in this new WWE as opposed to what it was two three years.

28:00 And I would say that WE is doing the things that made AW so appealing and they're adding it to their business model now, less house shows, more time at home, more flexibility to do outside projects. The stuff that they were getting bashed for and why people were going to AW, they're now doing it in this new business model, and it's making it more of an attractive place for wrestlers to go to because the business had to evolve. I mean, Vince wasn't the only game in town anymore, and he didn't seem to know that when he was running the show, where it was like, well, if you don't want to work here, then screw you, and a lot of people didn't want to work there, anymore, and they went to AW, and that's when AW was most successful. It's just it's very and this could be set for another day, and we got a lot of shows to wrap up the year that maybe this has talked about, but really the biggest turning point in wrestling for Bothe and AW was Vince retiring and leaving and the book being handed over to Triple H. Because when you saw WWE get better, and that's where you saw AW get worse, and W started to pull away and AW started to fall down the ladder. The erosion of good faith that wrestling fans in AW is eroding. I mean, look at the viewership each week for Dynamite Rampage and Collision. Rampage and Collision viewership is almost embarrassing at this point. I mean it's in levels that even the worst WE shit didn't even touch.

29:29 I mean, Dynamite is competing below where NXT was right now, and TBS and TNT are supposed to be in equal homes as to the USA Network or parts of it. You know, it's just crazy to see. So the free agentcy of twenty twenty four biggest impact immediate definitely on the AW side. Best character development w WE most potential for long term, it's got to be W right now because fakor Julia Zaria too. These are people that could all be top stars in five years. I'd like to throw the owner City Machine Guns in that list, But I'm still very optimistic when it comes to the tag TM division in WEE Doctor Trey.

30:11 Yeah, I mean really on the AW side, when you look at the signings, it's like, is Okada going to be any better than he is right now in five years now? I mean probably not mercedesmen A, Probably not Bobby Lashley Sheldon, those guys that are in their mid forties. Are they gonna be any better in five years than they're at right now? Probably not Ospray's these. If Ospray becomes the face of AW and starts generating by rates and generating ratings increases, then that that line becomes a little more blurred as to which class is better, because you can have one person offsets five people. In that situation. If he becomes the hottest star in the business at BOOM is kind of like you know, Stone Cold versus the nWo, and if he has honest things, stone Cold takes off and he basically ran the other company out of business.

30:58 But that means you have to trust in the. Booking of AAW putting ospray in that position, in ospray generating those results. Otherwise, Yeah, five years from now, we're gonna look back and be like, you know, WWE smoked this class because A, these guys are all these people are all big stars, and B they didn't cost as much as the other guys, So you're getting a return on investment that's much better. I think right now you look at aw go and is your return on investment really generating the results you wanted. I think wwkn honestly say that, Yeah, our class is even now generating return on investment better than what they thought they were going to get. And I don't know. In AW you can't say that right now.

31:39 WWE is a better product. As the year has gone on with these free agents. Aw is a less than product than it was at the start of the year with the addition of these free agents. And that's shocking because you would figure, and we said it in the early onset of twenty twenty four, like Osprey locatam on A this should inject some life in the company. And it's been the complete opposite. It's like reverse osmosis for all leave wrestling. So it's been a very interesting year for free agents and it's something that as we get close to the end of twenty twenty four, I was really thinking about as we get to these last couple of weeks of the year, because it was such a big year. It was such a big topic of discussion was the free agent market and professional wrestling for this year.

32:21 Speaking of we speaking of good character development, doctor Trey. One of those people that has really benefited from that in twenty twenty four is one solo Socoa. I've watched in the last couple of weeks on Raw and SmackDown and I was like, man, it's under the radar, but this guy has gotten really good. He has found his confidence, he has found his personality. He is extremely likable, even though playing one of the top heels in the SmackDown brand. I think this is a guy that could be like a really big baby face at some point because his personality, which is the same for his brothers like Jay and Jimmy, are like very magnetic, have great charisma, great personalities that I think the just kind of adhere to and they love I think Solo could get there someday, but he's been so great as a heel. I'm just like thinking to myself, we got the award show coming up, which, by the way, we will formally announce a holiday programming schedule on our Thanksgiving special on next week's edition of SRTU.

33:15 And I'm like, we keep talking about could it be Ospre for Breakout Start of the year, could it be Swerve the breakout start of the year, Like who could be the breakout start of the year. I'm like, why aren't we consitting considering Solo Soca? So I asked you this, doctor Trey, should Solo Socoa be strongly considered for the Breakout Start of the Year award? When we talk in about a little over a month, and do we over have we overlooked Solo Socoa after a really strong year in twenty twenty four? So my answering versary, so have we overlooked him? Absolute frecolutely and the evolution of his character? Nine months ago he didn't speak and now he cuts. He's one of the best promo guys that we see on television and in a lot of ways. And I saw somebody suppose his picture of it was two weeks ago he came out in like a black turtleneck with a gold chain.

34:03 I'm like, he has gone from Umaga to the Rock in nine months. I mean that's the evolution of solo in this and it's an incredible transformation. And he's helped elevate, you know. Toma Tonga, Tongolowa and Jacob Fatu into being upper mid carb borderline main event stars just by being in his orbit, which is what The Rock did for Dilo, Mark Henry and the Godfather back in the Nation of Domination days. So yeah, he's a completely we've completely overlooked him and yeah, absolutely is Should he be considered in that breakout level? Yeah, because he's done. What we're seeing is if you remember when he was in nxteen, when he came in, he was a heel, but because his personality was so inviting and he was hit that a little bit of that swag and charisma to him, they turned him Babyface before he got moved to the main roster just for that reason. So I think he's been overshadowed by the Aweso spray import to the United States, and that's why we kind of just kind of took Solo for granted, and you know there's people have a bias excuse me against Solo because of you know, he's just getting he's in his spot because of his family and everybody else. We've seen you and I've been watching wrestling for a long time. We've seen nepotism hires and some do great and some are David Flair.

35:27 So it's just because you get the spot doesn't mean you keep the spot. And Solo has done everything correct since we were the main roster to earn his place on the card where he's at right now. And absolutely, I mean breakout star. I mean Ospray May I guess ospray for the United States the audience is a breakout star. But Solo, for evolution of character in nine months has just been incredible this year. Yeah, I'm watching the show and I'm like, man, why are we not mentioning him more as a breakouts are of the year. It's been completely well lost brace for whoever. And it's like Solo has as you said, and you hit it on the head and these are the things I would think about. He went from not talking to talking all the time and having a lot of confidence and charisma on the microphone. One of the subtle things, and I don't know if you've seen this on social media dotch tray at all, but one of my favorite things that like pop up on my algorithm now for various different social media accounts is these Solo Socoa like dark matches or events, stuff at house shows, or him out out to like day to day life where he's like helping someone like put put luggage on an airplane that always pops up. He's like walking into an arena and somebody calls him like the fake tribal chief or whatever, and he like makes him flinch. He messes with people at ringside during commercial breaks. There's a great one where there's this famous picture of the usos as kids plus Solo,

36:59 and Solo's like very young, probably like eleven years old, and he's got like a backwards hat on. It's everything that you'd seen like the late nineties, early two thousands, and it was like, this is not my tribal chief. And they put that picture on the sign at ringside and he just is like staring it down. There's a lot of good stuff by about him, and I really think Solo at some point someday will be a very over babyface because he is so damn likable and is having so much fun and that resonates on television and he still has that magnetic personality and that like he's having a lot of fun on we television, but it's correlating extremely well as a heel right now. So yeah, I don't know, Doc Trey, I thought that this was kind of like a slam dunk decision this year, but I feel like Solziko has made a real strong push to close out twenty twenty four right now.

37:48 Yeah, I mean, you can tell he's sat under some good learning trees because he has some of the best facials, Like he can just look at the camera and you know exactly how he's feeling, and a lot of that's is It's a lot of the same stuff we were saying about Roman towards the end of the Blood like like he was so affable and likable being a heel that you knew once. They turned a baby face they would kind of blow up. And Solo's in that same realm right now, like his confidence is just oozing out and bubbling over, and a lot of the same things that Roman was doing there those just remember like Roman was like yelling at Paul him I think when they were in England for Class of the Castle, like how he hates this place and how stupid the fan. Like those little things were things that you and I would go, that's a babyface thing that would actually get people to laugh and like him a lot more if he was a good guy. Solo's the same way, So he's he's really picked up a lot of the stuff. And then once again, when you're the son of Rakishi and you're the brother to the Usos and the cousin to Roman reigns and these are four of the biggest stars wrestlings ever had, it's it's kind of hard not to pick up on those things to help you get over You just have to know how to apply it in the right way to really get the audience to react to you.

39:00 And he's done a great job. Like if you had ever told me that somebody who basically was booked like Umaga would be the focal point heal and not have a mouthpiece with them what I told you, there's no way a guy can pull it off. He's pulled it off, and he's made this race for breakout star really really close and interesting because as he keeps ascending and getting better, we see Osprey not getting booked as well, so he might catch him by the end, because it feels like the Tortoise and the Hair where Ospray got out to a big lead, but he's kind of slowing down here at the end, and Solo just keeps getting better and better week after week, and he might catch him by the end of the year. In twelve months, so Sokoa has pinned both John Cena and Roman Reigns at a major plae for World Hours Entertainment.

39:47 That is no small feat. Doctor Trey switching gears to all the wrestling will preven predict your full gear momentarily. But there was a big comment made from John Mock recently where he talks about why AW needs to be successful or it will set the business back. He had an interview with Sam Fishman and he said, and I quote, AW has to be a success. If it's not, the business gets set back another twenty fucking years. I'm not willing to go through that again. Others who I've known for fifteen to twenty years are not willing to go through that again. It's at the hands of our generation. This is what we wanted to do in all we've ever wanted to do. The future is in our hands.

40:30 Whatever AW will become in the future is up to us. Frankly, in five years nothing has been built. We're going to build it right now. There has been no flag. AD was not really nailed down its identity, but being a young company, and that's fine. There has been a known flag for everyone to unify and say, this is who we are and who we are what we do in the direction we're going. We're going to plan our flag. That's starting with me and a few people watching my back. In others, we're going to demand more of everybody around us. I think the big telling thing here to Treys is Moxley saying AW has to be success. If it's not, the business gets set back in another twenty years. Do you agree with that statement, Because as much as the influence of the last few years of five years of wrestling is due to the launch of awwwe got better because it was heavily influenced by the launch of AW and they needed to get better. Do you really think if AW was not successful the business gets set back in another twenty years.

41:27 I actually agree with them on that. Yeah, I do, because when you look at when WCW, even in the early eighties, when the NWA was battling WWF, there was still that pressure on WWF to beat your competition. There was still that line there, and it still gave guys an opportunity to go somewhere else and still make a good living. So the talent pool built because wrestling was a viable career for these guys, you know, and even all the way up through the nineties, and when you look at when WCW died, like wrestling got really bad for a long time, there was no opportunities. When guys got released, there was nowhere else to go to make the kind of money that they were making in WWE.

42:12 With the launch of AAW, it gave guys a platform and an option that, hey, if I don't like what ww's doing with me, I can go here and still make a good living. And we saw a lot of those guys make that move out from under Vince and make that move to AW for those reasons. Whether it's Moxley, Jericho FTR, you know. All those guys in those early days of AAW, that was what it was, and if AW goes away, you know, I heard a guy say today like when in absence of leadership, a power vacuum develops as somebody fills that role. We saw that a little bit in the early. Two thousand and twenty tens with the rise of TNA and Ring of Honor, but they were never really viable competition on the level of economics. Like AAW does, AW has enough bankroll to match WWE. If that goes away, is anybody gonna be running to go jump a new jumpstart a new wrestling promotion if AAW dies, no, because they're gonna look at going Well, TNA didn't succeed, ECW didn't succeed, Ring of Honored in seed, and now AAW that had a billionaire backing them up, they didn't succeed.

43:23 Maybe this is a one trick ponent kind of business with WWE. So I think that we need that second option to keep the health of wrestling going. Because wrestling is a smarteressboard. There's different flavors for everybody in between AW and WWE, you get your bases covered. But like I said, when WCW died, WW is the only option in town, and the ratings went down the talent kind of went down, like we got really like the Jeff, there was times that you and I thought about quitting this show because wrestling was so bad in that window of time between twenty twelve and twenty sixteen. You know, it took an AW to reinvigorate the WW product. So I think you need some kind of healthy option. And if AW dies in a billionaire fails, I don't think any BAILS is jumping up to fill that void for the next twenty years.

44:15 Yeah, no, I agree with you on that where we need that second option. I guess the part that I will find a little debatable is I think WWE has learned from their ways and I can't see the current book, the current creative, the current business model, the current guys running the company, the TKO board, letting WW fall back into the trap that after two thousand and one when WWNECW folded, that are just got to like wrestle their laurels and if somebody pops up, great, But the most likelihood is that WE dominates for twenty plus years. That part I don't think will happen again. I think Vince didn't have a desire to appease his audience after those companies folded and there was no competition left. I think the folks now it's a bit different because of the television contracts, Doctor Trey. So, I mean, they have to perform to earn that five billion dollars from Netflix, they have to perform to earn that money from the USA network, they have to perform to earn that money from the CW network, And they have to perform for people to watch want to watch their pls on the Peacocks platform in the United States. So I think things have changed a bit where we do want a second company. We do want a company that is going to push AWWE in aw and we also want a company that's going to push ine AWW better. But I don't think it will have the same ramifications it did in two thousand and one when WCWNCW closed.

45:44 If that makes sense, Yeah, it does a lot of that. On the level of it makes sense that they would continue on doing what they're doing. Makes sense, but we also know that they're no longer a privately owned company. They're part of a corporate and every corporation goes through ups and downs, and there are times like well, if you don't have any competition. Do we need to be paying these exorbitant salaries to people? Do we need to be paying Do we need to be offering Becky Lynch three million dollars a year if she has nowhere else to go? Can we get it? For one? And so if you start shrinking the budgets and shrinking the things up like that, because you're assuming that when aw folds up that that audience will translate over, that's not always the case.

46:29 So there is a little bit of hesitancy and me to sit. There and say that, yeah, you're absolutely right, it'll actually go that way, because we've seen it in business models before that when competition dies off, whoever survives that battle does kind of shrink down their their costs to maximize their revenues, and then the product actually suffers a little bit. So that's that's my nervousness in it, because we've seen it before that when these companies go out of business, whether it was the Independent Territories in the eighties or WCWN the in the two thousands, when the competition dies up or dries up, the winner doesn't go, hey, let's go spend crazily and just blow this out of the water, they shrink up their piece of the pie. Also bring everything in house to maximize their revenue. So that's that's my nervousness in that kind of concept.

47:17 Well, it's funny because it's the same old it's the pendulum, right. I mean, we just saw it in the United States a couple of years ago, where the pendulum was swinging for the very first time to the employees. Job market was tight, people weren't there was plenty of open jobs. People could leave their jobs at any given moment, and employees. Employers want to do everything possible to make their employees happy and give them all these benefits, the ability to work from home, travel here, stipend there, blah blah blah blah blah, and that was all well and good as the economy took a shit. Then all of a sudden, the power went back to the employers and cuts are happening and everybody's going to return to the office. So it's just funny how things work. And right now the power is in the fans and the power is in the wrestler. The organization does not have the power, and that has been consistent right now for five years. So you're starting to see more ability being thrown back to the fans and more ability thrown back to the wrestlers.

48:14 You would figure it at some point that maybe the organizations, the employers get that power back right now. But as long as they are in number two and they're they're vying and pushing w to be better, then I don't think that will happen. But I guess the one thing that I'll say, just to wrap this all up, doctor Trey, is I mean, is aw And a number two anymore? I mean there are times I'm watching Dynamite rampage collision. The crowd reactions are very poor. They are an arenas that they should not be in anymore because the attendance is so low. I think the MVP arena in Albany where they just had collision recently, and I'm going to double check this real quick, but I'm pretty sure that fills over like ten thousand people and they sevente five hundred people, and they may have had two thousand in there for collision this past Saturday night, and you could see that most of that arena was blacked off. I mean, are they a number two right now? I mean they're falling behind in viewership to NXT. I mean, I understand that this may open the floodgates to a conversation, but I guess on the short term here and in a short term response short response, are they are they a viable number two right now?

49:29 I think they're still I think they're still a viable number two. It is a little bit of and I'm not saying they're closing up shop or they're going out. I don't want to. It's mistaking me for that. It does feel a little bit like the end of WCW, where you can still find WCW products out in your sword. You can still buy the t shirts, the action figures also like and that is still brand visibility. They still have more brand visibility than any other company out there. That's why when the Joe Henry phenomenon took offer. But it's like, what's this TNA stuff? And TDA got a little bit of a bump in viewership for where they're at before because it was just kind of like, oh, I thought they went out of business or I thought they had kind of close up shop. AW is still a recognizable brand, Like they still have international deals, they still have their wal like Walt, their products are walmarts and targets and you know, hot topics and things like that place, so you can still get their stuff in brick and mortar stores. Is not all online like an MLW or you know any of these other you know, even TNA for that matter, there's still a recognizable brand.

50:29 The problem is is that if you don't stop the slide, you're not going to bring new viewership in. You're going to continue to slide. You have to find a way to write the ship, which I thought Moxley in that interview made some great salium points, which is some of the things that you and I have been saying the last couple of years, Like the brand doesn't have an identity, and you have to create one, and whether it's like downsizing into small arenas and going more to like what ECW did at something like when they've got rebranded into Extreme Championship Wrestling and found their little niche products to create buzz again and draw people in to watch it. Hey, maybe that works, and then you have the already have the infrastructure in place to re expand the business out. They are in an identity crisis right now, and that's why I think that a lot of the viewers have gone away because it's like, well, we don't really know what we're getting from week to week. There's no consistency in the product.

51:21 There's no consistency in the inn ring performance, there's no consistency in the storylines. And if you don't have consistency, you can't build loyalty. That's a great way to end it, right there. Not sure I think that is the perfect way to end it. So let's get into the big show this Saturday for aw Full Gear Previeum predictions this Saturday from the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey. We'll start of the pre show match here, Doctor Trey, one of your favorites, Big boom AJ taken on QT Marshall. I'm going to take on Big Boom AJ from the Costco guys. I am not in this Costco guys Metaverse multiverse? Are you Dot Tray and who do you like in this match?

52:02 I don't. I don't know who any of those people are. I know Qt Marshall, I saw his rap video. You don't know, you don't know the Rizzler. It was, is that like Bizarro Riddler. It's like this eight year old kid that this is like weird thing with his face. Is that like Ryan's world. I know that guy I saw. I saw his stuff at Walmart. I don't know. Like when they when they start talking about this, I was like, I don't know. This is like when like music award shows come on now and I'm the old guy going on. I don't know who. I don't know who any of these people are. What the hell I don't know? I thought Big Boom and a J. I thought Aj Francis was making like a debut for aw from TNA. It's what I literally thought, and then somebody had to educate me a little bit on it.

52:43 I'm like, I don't know who this is. I will take Big Boom AJ in the Wrizzler just because there's three. There's only one QT Marshall. I don't think it's a three on one match, but we'll go with Big Boom AJ. I can't wait for you to watch this match and give your feedback on it. MJF versus Roger Shrunk to Trey, Who do you like in this one? I got MJF, but I don't know about you. Could Could I see Roderick turn on Adam Cole at the end of this match, like Adam comes out to help or Adam Cole comes out to him help Roderick cost him the match, and then we find out that MJF is actually the head of the of the Enniscuta Kingdom. Right now, I think that is possibility, Okay, but I'm taking I'm taking MJF just because I I we had to build to MJF and Adam Cole, so MJFF losing to roder doesn't make sense.

53:29 So I'm taking MJF to win. By the way, the MJO maybe mjf's joined the patriarchy because there are some vicious shots at Roderick Strong's dead father this past week. Those vignettes that they've been airing. By the way, I'm taking MGF as well. Those vignettes that they've been airing after all these matches with Adam Cole and and Roger Strong, they are got awful. I'm not a fan. I mean, there's it's sunlight and it's it's it's a nighttime show, like where is the Iceland? Like what do we do? I mean that that I like the creativity, but that those have been bad. Doctor Trey, Well, I mean this is you know, this is what moxis talking about we've we've tried some stuff that didn't work, we got out what actually works, and apparently taping a show at night but doing your vignettes in the middle of the day that air post match doesn't make a lot of sense.

54:18 Next match, here is j Why taking on Hangman Adam Paige. J White is going on about on and on about how he has Hangman out in Page's number. He won the match at Wrestled Dreams. Therefore I'm gonna go with Hangman at a Page in this one. Doctor Trey, Yeah, I'm doing like the same with the situation, Like if if Jay got to win, Hangman gets a win because aaw Tipley does fifty to fifty booking anyway on with her big stars, So it's time for Hangman to get a win and get back into the title. We got to figure out where Hangman lies in this whole bcc aw takeover storyline at some point, or does he get involved with Swerbigan at some point after this hurt business thing dies off. Next match here is Private Party defending the aw Tech World Tag Team Championship in a four way tag team match against the Outrunners. Came to the Black Throne and the acclaimed Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one?

55:06 Well, I'd love to see the outrunners win. I don't think, like, how do you put the belts on Private Party and take it right back off them? To me, House of Black is the most deserving team to get to win, But I'm still taking Private Party just because they just got the belts a month ago. You gotta let him hang on to it for a little while if you're trying to actually build your tag team division again. Yeah, I'm with you here. I don't think you take the titles off Private Party right now. Mercedes Monete defends the AWTBS Championship against Chris Statlander. I'm gonna take Mercedes money in this one, not to try. By the way, did you see this segment with her trying to hit the backstabber? Yeah, it was awful. That was so bad, and it messed up her tombstone as well because she couldn't get one hundred and twenty pound person into position. Like it's just it's got awful.

55:54 I really want to pick stat Lander in this match, and it's hard because I kind of want to see them, but with Yama kind of still heading up the women's title division. I think I think Mercedes Monet gets the wins one. What are why are all the champions Eminem? By the way, I just now did the map on that too. But the Eminem collection isn't a champion. Yeah. Next match Strickland taking on Bobby Lashley Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? I'm going to numbers Games again. I'm gonna take Lashley getting the win here because you still have Sheldon, you still have MVP, And as much as I love Prince Nana, is he really a threat against MVP or you know Sheldon to get involved. So I will take Lashley getting the win by hook and by crook.

56:35 I'm going to take Bobby Lashley getting this victory as well. I don't think you signed him to have his first to have him lose on the first paper he's involved with. Next match is Jack Perry defend the AWT and T Champion against Daniy Garcia. This has been some really good vignettes and segments so far, a lot of Batman and Joker stuff. With that said, I would love to pick Daniel Garcia in this one, but the way they left it off on Dynamite, I am going to pick Jack Perry, Doctor Truck. Yeah, I'm picking Perry as well, just because you destroyed the Man's ice cream truck. Whatever that thing is, I don't really know. Is it plus old school bus? Right, it's an old school bus. It looked like he stole from the ice cream Man. Also, I don't really know. It looks like he got a leftover thing from a Samoa Joe's Twisted Metal TV show and turned into a vehicle.

57:20 But I'm taking Perry as well because of that, and also I just watched nine of two and oh and his dad was on it, So I'll take Jack Perry. Next match is Will Osprey taken on Kyle Fletcher, Doctor Tree. Who do you like? In this one? I'm taking will Osprey to beat the fake as Eminem, So yeah, I. Am taking Will Ospray as well. And then the main event here, John Moxley defends the aw World Champions against Orange Cassidy. Decent build, decent feud. I'd like the character development of Orange Cassidy, the John Moxley Death Riders storyline, I'm starting to potentially lose interest in. With that said, I am going to take John Moxley in this one. I'm taking Moxley as well, because Orange Cassie's stood up, uh in put his hands in his pocket to close out Dynamite or was it that Mite, So he's showing his uh, you know, fu to the man, so to speak.

58:11 But I'm taking Moxie because as much as we love Morenge Cassidy, he's not the biggest baby face in the company, and we got to get to the death writers against the bigger baby faces. Uh So I'm taking Moxley to Weather. And why the hell did we have Claudia beat the hell out of Darby Allen last week as well? I don't I don't get that. Uh you just brought up like the top baby faces. I would figure the next guy in line would be Darby Allen. And I was just gonna. I was thinking the same stuff, like why is Darby getting jobbed out hard to Claudia Castagnulli right now? Yeah, I mean to me, I get I mean, if I'm going off top baby faces, it's Swerve and Ospray and Swerves feeding with a new a new stable that just showed up. Ospray's you with another stable, and we have another stable over here that basically is going up against the upper middle card of aw right now, and they're supposed to be the biggest storyline, so I don't get it. So I I just assume that after this we're moving on to bigger and better things with the death writers other because I do feel like Moxley is kind of running the show right now.

59:08 So with that said, we will recap review full Gear, we will preven predictivity, we surviviseries, war games all on our very special Thanksgiving edition of srt We'll also announce the holiday programming schedule for everyone on next week's edition of SRTU. We'll try to get that episode out a little bit early because I would envision dot trene and we'll talk about it off air. I envision that we will be recording early next week, probably not going to record on Thanksgiving because we'll be busy, and so we'll try to get that out to you guys sooner rather than later so you can enjoy the Thanksgiving holiday or pop this in and listen to this podcast to get away from the family during the Thanksgiving holiday. Would that said, it's got a couple of plugs and sponsors out of the way. You can down the show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guide Radio dot com, Wrestle Chattnet on X and the Still Rail that show iTunes feed. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us come the charts on iTunes. You can follow individually on X for myself at SRTU Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at The Doctor Trey. And of course don't forget to follow a show on X at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what is going on in the one for world of doct Trey Franklin this week?

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