Rollins Hurt? Hangman Rises! Naomi’s Big Move & Evolution Reigns! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #805 – 07/17/25

0:00 It's still real to me, damn it! What are we doing? Welcome everybody! Welcome to this week's edition of the Sto Rilla show Episode 850 by 72 2025 Welcome to this week's edition of SRTPU I am one after show, I am Jeff Peck joined every single week in my co-host along with Dr. Dre Franklin Dr. Dre, that was a lot of wrestling my friend Yeah, and crazy enough Jeff, I think I watched all of it That is pretty crazy Have you watched, because I'm literally watching all of it, and I'm like, this is five hours and I have a lot of evolution in a couple of other than, I'm like, that's nine to ten hours of wrestling I actually watch this entire weekend, so when people tell us, hey guys, I don't think you're watching enough content I covered almost probably, including RAW, ten hours of wrestling in a weekend So my family hates me, my wife hates me, even the new puppy is not happy with me But I watched it all for you guys who are subscribing somewhat to our Patreon page Yeah, the all-in broadcast was something else because I think it actually started The pre-show was like one PM East And I saw that at eight, like 50 PM East Coast time

1:34 The show was just ending with, "Hey man, get in the victory" Spoiler alert That's seven hours of freaking wrestling I'm like, holy crap, that's a work day That's a work day right there, my friends Not even a lunch break I mean, that is an insane amount of professional wrestling just from one standalone show I mean, that reminds me of like WrestleMania 35 that started at 5 PM And then lasted until like 12.30 in the morning East Coast time Yeah, that was the one where Samoa Joe and I want to say Shinsuke had like a three minute match Oh, Samoa Joe and Ray Mysterio had like a three minute match And that was the one that basically, it was the last one night WrestleMania we've ever seen So 34 is the one I attended correct?

2:27 Is your better at numbers and locations I am? So it was 34 New Orleans or 35 New Orleans 34 was New Orleans Okay, so that one from doors opening, the doors open at like 130 to go in for WrestleMania And that we, I left that show at 9/3 and Lesnar and Reigns was still going So yeah, like those were the like, that's when I like when I was gonna say I was gonna mention that On last week's show is like, yeah, all in, it's like, literally WrestleMania because it's going to take all day to Kassoua So now I have to backtrack because I did skip the pre-show matches Oh, didn't make it hard. Well, until next week for Dr. Dreyfraindr, sorry Sorry, this has been But, but dude shout out to Dustin Rose for three matches in a less than a 24 hour window I mean, I think he had about almost an hour of actual ring time in his 50s So, I mean, and within one day like that is an incredible feat for anybody You know, but to break it up over three matches, three distinct different style matches and perform as well as he did, that dude's incredible Like I, he may be when we talk about most underrated wrestlers of all time He's in that Mr. Henning, or Mr. Perfect Kurt Henning era, like I think he's sorely underappreciated

4:01 Oh, absolutely, I mean, and I think there was a period of time where he actually like destroyed his career Just because it's like personal things that were going on with him I mean, Gold Dust is one of the most influential characters of the 90s by far I don't know if we get to the added to their, if it wasn't for Gold Dust So, it's something amazing that he is still doing this and I agree with you He's one of the most underrated or underappreciated wrestlers of all time And I think coming off this weekend, I think there is that new appreciation for him, which is great to see So props to Dustin Rhodes, our new AWT&T champion We will pick which one of the shows won the weekend But I guess let's just because we kind of like we're naturally getting to this point out to trade If we're looking at seven to eight hours of professional wrestling I don't think AW will be able to do a two night event like WWE is doing right now Just at their current climate and the way the business is and that's just being totally blunt and honest But is seven hours plus way too much professional wrestling all for one day in one show?

5:13 Yeah, I think especially like when you and I have talked about this over the, you know, the 15 years we've been doing the show Like the attention span of wrestling fans have gotten short And we have so many more things around us that can distract us than we did when we first started the show That not go like I'm sitting there watching the show on my, you know, on my phone and then I streamed it to my TV But I'm literally watching it and like I'm zoning out at the time and it wasn't because of anything bad AW was doing in that seven hours It was literally because my brain goes like this is too much pull up, you know, check your messages, check your, you know, phone, you know, check your emails Like I'm still I'm distracted where on the shorter ones I feel like I can consume it easier than I can the seven hours Like it just it does kind of like when you're done you're kind of exhausted by the end of the show You can see that even like they did a good job of holding the fans passion the entire show but you can, I mean you can feel it in the building like, man by the time they got that final payoff The crowd in the arena was exhausted as well Yeah, I think for this day and age it is too much wrestling It's, I couldn't be able to sit in watching one sitting I did not watch it live It's just it's too much it's you're killing a Saturday if you've got a family good luck if you're married good luck if you've got kids good luck

6:49 If you're able to pull it together and have like a family outing more power to you I wish mine was like that but it is too much And I think AW is just kind of strapped based off of the current business model where they need to be the best wrestling show They want to do seven hours professional wrestling more power to them I think in a perfect world they could do two nights it's just they're not there yet and hopefully they get there over time because that seems to be the new thing we'll have summer slam First time it'll be stretched over two nights and just a couple of weeks we'll preview predict that once it gets closer here early August And that seems to be the new model nowadays it's outside of that I just feel like we are getting like normal AW shows go about four hours Not counting the pre show the WWE's got the PLEs under three hours at this point close to like four hours if you if you watch it live and you see all the commercials and stuff in between in the buildup But if you watch it on demand like I do typically most of the time on on peacock those shows are running like little under three hours three hours and 30 minutes I think evolution in great American bash went And I think that's the sweet spot I mean you don't want to lose people doctorate especially the live crowd you do not want to lose the live crowd with these long shows Yeah and you know like I we talked about the last cup the last two WrestleMania is that were you know seven eight hours and you felt that in the building by the end of the show the crowd's exhausted And we've seen it on AW the last four years that you and I have been like guys seriously five hours six hours seven hours you have to break it up not just for your audience to maintain their energy throughout

8:29 Because the last thing you want is you don't want your main event Closing out a show and the crowd so exhausted that they're really not that they're into it but they just don't have the energy to really clap and cheer and applaud and we've seen that with AW shows in the past where the show closes and you're just like Oh that's fine. Yeah good job. You survived I did it. Yeah we did it. High fives around. It's like you need a ribbon to say like I survived AW all it. Yeah it literally was that like and and you know even at times they've done like when they would do Sunday shows like you're doing eight hours and then leading into another show or something else It's like you're just mentally drained from all this like can I watch saving saving private Ryan and you know apocalypse now back to back No by the end of it I'm tired of war movies is like there there needs to be some kind of sweet spot for that but I will say like with when they do a big show like all in or revolution that crowd I mean they're they're paying for the experience You could break it up and still maintain probably close to the the the tickets you got for that one like you could do all in Wembley in two nights and I'm pretty sure you could probably still draw 70,000 people both nights like they just announced that we do in that next year So not two nights but they're gonna be doing Wembley again. Yeah and I think was I read the only reason they didn't do this year was cold play had a book and cold play wouldn't be better.

10:02 I hate when cold play gets in the way quite honestly I did just read a great article that cold play just broke up a marriage. Yeah that is that is very viral right now Dr. True But it's just like but like you know a place like Wembley or a place like if they did all in and to Ron's a place is or maybe that's wrong but like places that don't get wrestling that often They could do a two night show and still pack pack the building out so I think they just need to find kind of a sweet spot for their big shows and that way they could still pack it out tonight and it's more digestible to the audience at that point. Let's go through the shows from the weekend and get our thoughts here and you know give some recap and then we'll wrap it all up by picking what show we thought one the weekend.

10:46 We'll start with the NXD great American bash doctor tray overall I thought it was a very strong show I thought Ethan Page versus Ricky Saints was an awesome match loved Soul Rooka versus Izzy Dame as well I thought that delivered and I thought there was no Week matches on the card for a card that was not built well I thought NXT had a really good show and I think out of everything that took place this weekend I think this is going to get lost in the shuffle just because it's NXT. You know it was airing the same time as AW all in Texas if you haven't watched it yet it is a very strong wrestling show which which call me off guard your thoughts and take away from NXT great American bash this weekend. Yeah it reminded me in a sense of maybe some I don't say the black and gold era but like just we have some pay you know PLE's back in the day where like there wasn't great build but the matches were fantastic and it's it's also kind of the knock that we used to give AW were like the entering stuff was great.

11:41 But there was a lot of good build to it and that's kind of how I felt about this like in ring wise I thought the show was fantastic like Saints in page was incredible. I enjoyed the hell of that match the Soul Rooka match Izzy Dame match I thought was really was really good as well. You know the the OBA Femme match I thought was solid Javon Evans in Jasper Troy I thought was solid. I thought it was a solid wrestling show from top to bottom like no weak spots just lacking a really good build to really get me to bite into it. Yeah I thought it was again really solid show if you want to watch good wrestling for 2.5 hours like a really solid episode of NXT highly recommend great American bash they came from center stage in Atlanta GA.

12:31 Saturday night main event to me there was like 2 major things the first being Seth Rollins injury there's a lot of stuff out there if it's legit or work Seth went was hosting the rich eyes and show on Wednesday and said that his knee is too swollen right now they could not get in my mind Birmingham. You're hearing reports out there that it's legit there are people people out there that say it to work to build something built something else. There is definitely parts of this creative team that would not shock me if it was a work but I do feel like it's legit and then Goldberg seemed to get a proper send off then he complained 2 days later so let's start with the Seth Rollins same doctor because this is obviously a big story legit or work in your opinion.

13:20 I think it's a legit thing that has been turned into a work like I don't know how bad the injury really is. I mean it's bad enough to call like if the audible is a shoot the L.A. night getting the win because the injury if that's a shoot then they've done it really well. To me when I hear like hey we're in Birmingham with arguably the best medical team in the country and we can't get a diagnosis that feels like a work. So I think it's a shoot injury a legit injury that they're using as a work to set to something bigger down the line when they know he can be back.

14:04 It's not great. I think that there's a concern right now Dr. Trey that is he injury prone right is Seth Rollins injury prone because now this is what the third or I actually forgot one in this there's the the tear he had in 2015 when he was champion that led to Roman range versus Dean Ambrose in tournament final. That survivor series then there was the knee injury before triple H versus Seth Rollins at WrestleMania 33 then there was the knee injury last year during WrestleMania season that we found out afterwards like he was resting on torn Maniscus and now there is a another knee injury Seth Rollins is not getting any younger and now he's got four serious knee injuries within 10 years span and he is 39 years old I just turned 39 so I know how this feels.

15:05 This this is in great Dr. Trey and this is one of the best out there for knee injuries in 10 years I think we could say he's injury prone. It's a weird line when you talk about injury prongers to me injury prong like we've had guys that literally would I hate saying Daniel Bryan but for a while I Brian would come off the injury list wrestle four matches get ready. I mean at least Seth are broken up by years in between injuries so it just kind of depends on definitely injury prong I do think he's an injury risk. Excuse me and that might be where it is I think the one issue Seth has had is I don't think Seth has ever changed his style of wrestling and that's what a lot of guys tell you is like hey as your injuries mount up you may have to change your style of wrestling and doing that flip to where you land on your feet that is literally the move that we see people get injured on more than anything else is that kind of a pop up thing where it's like there's the back flip or the hip toss they land on their feet or they jump off the top row you know do the flip land on their feet boom then their knee goes out so I think Seth needs to adjust his style much like Randy Orton has done over the past 10 years because he had the same knock on him that he was injury prone for a long while before he had the big neck injury and we've seen Randy change his style up as well so I think he's a risk maybe not prone he's kind of like the Christian McAfry of wrestling like you know he's super talented but you're always worried that just on one day he could blow out his knee again to be out for a year but when he's good he's the best there is that what he does.

16:50 The biggest thing to outside this is the selfish side of the trade that I felt like the storyline was just getting good I am obviously upset as a wrestling fan for him being injured not him it's Seth wrong's on television is not a good time. And then the storyline thing here his group was starting to really take off felt like it was going to be leading towards what we saw on Monday's raw where probably brought break was in the Seth Rollspot we would have Seth versus versus Roman at at Summerslam. We're not going to get any all that get any of that at all now he said on the rich eyes and show he is has WrestleMania in the back of his mind if this is legit and it's not a work again that's what I think it is.

17:32 This is that part really sucks because now that was going to really help elevate Bronson Reed and Braun Breaker my opinion as well. Yeah I still think it's more work than legit I don't know if we'll see him in a ring like actually wrestling a full match of Summerslam but given the results from Goother Goldberg and then what happened on Monday night I fully expect to see see a punk get involved in that match at Summerslam if that's the route they go. You think punk gets involved in what match now got there and see a punk I don't think he like we've sorry like you think you think Roman gets involved in that match.

18:13 I'm sorry Rollins I meant Rollins okay yeah you said see a punk gets involved in the match. Yeah what? No I got my tongue in our fears in punk versus Gunther stay tuned. Undertaker versus Undertaker eat your heart out. But no I fully expect see Seth get involved in that punk Gunther match because although he's got money to bank his other focus is he doesn't want punk winning a championship which is why he got involved with punk and John Cena that was the story like he just doesn't want punk getting the world title back or in the world title before he does. So I expect him to get involved in that match with him in Gunther. Yeah I mean if this is a work in Rollins this turns out to be a work like it'll be great again I think the creative that is going on in WWE right now is good is really good and I like that they're losing the predictability about it.

19:06 And I think in the past I would probably complain like I don't think they should be using injuries is a way to do this but why not right now I mean this is we have plenty of stuff out there where there are some shocking twists and turns in our favorite television show so why not do it in WWE's context as well so I guess summer slam is probably the like the test right Dr. Try if if Rollins interferes somehow great this was all a work but if we get out of summer slam it's like oh shit it was legit. Yeah that's that's kind of where I'm at with it because like if it's a torn ACL if you towards ACL again we won't see him a summer slam but if he hyper extended his knee or something like that where he can still like I said I don't think we see him wrestle at summer slam but I can see him getting involved I can see him cashing in like both guys are down he cashes in there's a stunt.

19:57 One two three I think he could pull that off and then back buys him time to heal up and still come out summer slam is champion because they blew up my Saturday nights main event idea so screw them. And then let's talk about Goldberg I thought he got a proper send off on Saturday night I watched it I popped for Doug Dillinger I thought that was awesome he got a decent match he got a decent amount of offense in with one of the best wrestlers in professional wrestling today a world champion was the build the greatest no should it have been a PLA bigger stadium whatever that's I don't know I felt like they make these Saturday night main event shows look like a PLA I thought he got a proper send off and then he got on the show with aerial whole on the on Tuesday and just basically trash the entire thing which left a bad taste of my mouth doctor tragus from Saturday nights main event first did you feel like had he not say anything on air show had you would you have felt like he got a proper send off or did you feel like I thought as a wrestler he got a proper send off I was a little bummed out that they kind of cut part of his speech out at the end I don't think they cut it out though no no I don't and I and I mean they in the sense of I don't know if it was NBC or W it was NBC 100% NBC so like they have a hard out I understand it you know so I was a little irritated that but I thought from a match perspective of what we thought we were going to get in the performance we actually got I thought it was a proper send off he looked pretty strong against gun through the match no selling those shops I don't know if Gunther you know and recipe call brother it up a little bit where it sounds good but it doesn't hurt that much

21:44 those look like legitimate Gunther chops he knows so the first couple of them he got his son was involved in match which something you and I talked about with the whole and I you know next in line thing they have with WWE is kind of opening that door I thought is a very proper send off I will say the one thing that I didn't like that is the nitpick is we only got the one arm drop on the finish not the three that we saw a month earlier I know we can just I immediately thought of you as usually our window one time right for the bell like what the hell Jeff and I just talked about this a couple weeks ago but other than that I thought it was for what we had seen Goldberg do is probably his previous two or three matches it was a much better performance that thought we were going to get Goldberg actually said in that interview with Aaron Hollani he apologized to Gunther backstage for the chops like he shouldn't have done that he owned up on that which I think is the right thing you he should not have done that he should have you're on your way out you take the pin you take the choke out you help put Gunther over as well and your career I think you sell those chops I see I was okay with I was okay with the first couple because like the adren- like the adrenaline's pumping he know like he's going all in and that was the Goldberg character of all like Goldberg res me Russell Flair Goldberg with no cell Flair's first yeah yeah yeah but you can't say you can't go in there and say he's 58 58 58 and all of a sudden he's 28 so I'm saying like but in the first couple

23:16 minutes of the match you can you you can kind of go man he's jacked up on adrenaline he's not feeling anything but by the end he was selling the chops so I didn't mind the first two no cells but by the end yes I can get behind that if they were going to have multiple matches I just think on the retirement match like that's that's just not something he was he should have done and he ended up apologizing for it so we kind of differ on that one the complaint two days later doctor I mean I was so disappointed here that from him I was like man this guy you can't make this guy happy I mean they could have called called the show Goldberg and he'd be upset I mean I don't know if I'm doubting you I'm like well I'm rolling my eyes because they they didn't have to I mean it was on national television you're getting the world champion one of the best in the ring today and you went nearly 15 minutes I would prefer a 15 minute Goldberg match and a speech that was going to be cut off that I could watch on in on full on YouTube later that night next day rather than a five minute match and then a 15 minute you know retirement speech from from Bill Vogue I I was really disappointed here I'm complaining about that I think it completely dampened his retirement match I think that's what at least for now I will remember it kind of goes back to like oh yeah this is why let that this is why he's so polarized it's shit like this like dude you got your match in you got first of all look I get that

24:49 you want to give a heartfelt speech but half the audience was tuning out as is the matches over they weren't hanging around for the speech anyway I'm not trying to be rude but that's just reality of the situation if WWE if and I'm sure WWE took the whole speech and put it out on their website as well like dude you got what you want it just be happy with that so I don't I don't get him being upset I'm just kind of going with his kind of the e to the moment and he was kind of upset with how it all kind of played out so and then let's get to AW all in Texas or thoughts on there so hangman winning was absolutely the right call we talked about last week's show could you imagine if they went and had him retain moxley retain I'd be like there would be a riot in Texas because with all the momentum it's like you can't kill it MJF is back in the World Tiled picture AW's returning to what works with MJF and hangman at the top Adam Coles in ring future is in doubt there's reports out there that he was actually going to announce that he was retiring during the show and they talked about it we talked about it earlier on Dustin road shocks the world becoming TNT world champion in the fatal for away Athena wins the casino got in the Tony storm retains with Mercedes Tony Athena at the top that is three people that could absolutely carry the AW women's division and then Copeland and Christian reunion is on the horizon would appear those are some of my takeaways and thoughts from AW all in Dr. Trey what what's it out to you yeah those were the those were the key points for me I I will say this as somebody who is knocked AEW quite a bit or

26:26 last year this was one of the most entertaining shows I've seen all year from even though it was long man it was a damn good show like I really enjoyed this show which I haven't said a whole bunch but if this is their WrestleMania in a lot of ways they really delivered on it I mean that that main event match with with hangman and moxley I mean it was a little bit of Avengers in game type of a thing like everybody in their mom was getting involved in it but hey it worked for Roman and Cody a year ago so I can't really criticize it maybe a little too bloody for my liking but it's a Texas death match it's kind of what you get I thought you know Mercedes Monet who I have knocked on the show for probably a decade I thought had a really good match with Tony Storm Athena goddamn I love that woman she is so she for being so small she's tough as hell and so like just put together MJF coming out on top was the right call for that as well like the stuff with you know FTR you know Christian the hurts in the kit Adam Copeland all that stuff like storyline wise ties in together just from top to bottom I really really enjoyed the show like I there wasn't anything on this show that I was like well that was dumb that was AW there was a well written well put together professional wrestling show that took my life energy out of me for being seven hours long yeah it's it's it was rather long we've I think we beat that to

27:58 death but that is something you cannot forget about it I thought it was a very strong show we talked about it again on last week's podcast it is definitely feeling like AW swagger's back I like coming out of AW all in there's definitely some buzz and excitement and I really hope they could ride this wave of momentum they're going back to the things creatively that works for them as a company hangman Adam page in this position the everyday blue collar worker you know baby face he he I think somebody said recently I don't know if it was bully right or somebody said that like I think it was actually Nick and Matt Jackson interview I read that you could put hangman page in the eighties nineties two thousands two thousand tens and today's and he'd be a top baby face and that is absolutely so true he resonates very well on the screen mjf as a top heel in the world title mix few new with a hangman type stuff is is the direction you want to go like these are guys that need to be at the top of the card the young bucks being involved in a top storyline you know with the stuff with osprey and swerve that is things that need to be involved as well they're pushing all the right buttons right now and they cannot fall back into what happened last year where they got into this like fall swoon and you just saw the company like really tank lost a ton of interest in them and they really struggled up until double or nothing where they had some really good momentum upward swing building there they've been on a good path and they're pushing all the right buttons still trepidatious about a doctor trade but I just feel like they are doing all the right things

29:32 that are speaking to the fans and the fans enjoy it and they're they're receiving the product very well right now. Yeah I love like what they said about hangman page hangman page reminds me of what magnum t.a. would be today like look demeanor the way he works like if magnum came up in this era that's what hangman page would be. But you're right like what they're doing is going hey who are the people that our audience really loves to watch who are the people that we get the most feedback from who are the people that the crowds buying the merchandise from and that's who we should focus on and I thought you saw that play out on this show like Athena is one of the most maybe underrated female wrestlers in the company we hear about everybody else but she's been a ring of honor world you know world champion for over a year hey let's get her featured more in the mix people seem to respond to her swerve and osprey hey and then we can also like I mess around with the young bucks on dynamite because they've lost their stroke it can be fun in the crowd will eat that up you know Oka and Omega like the crowd loves these guys but hey they love Oka they love swerve let's put them together like they focus on the people of strength and not the people that maybe they feel like internally they have to push or they have a the heart syndicate has some of the best selling merchandise w and arguably one of the best theme songs in a w and they're the ones going over in that match not the young kids or you know the

31:04 X w w guy and his young protege it's the the team that the crowd seems to respond to so I thought it was very very smart looking especially on your biggest show because it's going to leave people happy at the end and then wanting to zoom into the next show to see how the fallout plays out we talked about all the good the obvious the bad thing here dr. Tray the the cloud over the show partially was obviously Adam cold he's a guy that we named one of our wrestlers of the year out of everybody I think it was like 2019 if you told me back in 2022 when he came over the company that he would not be an eight w roll champion in to buy 2025 I would not believe you the amount of injuries and bad luck that he's had is awful you know he said in the speech that he is sick later comes out a couple days later that the reporting another concussion and it's one where they're like he's legitimately considering uh... in-ring retirement permanently the selfish side of us res resting fans is we hope it's on his last match we hope that we have not seen the last match of Adam cold the reality of the situation the human aside of the situation is we all just want to be healthy we all want him to enjoy the rest of his life and if this is the decision he needs to make so be it it'll be very a very tough pill the swallow um... but that was just such a bummer man i was so sad for Adam cold who is genuinely referred to as one of the nicest guys in professional wrestling one of the best in-ring workers characters i've enjoyed watching over the last 15 years doing this podcast

32:46 i was so bummed out to hear and see that take place this past Saturday afternoon yeah because in a lot of ways you know for this current generation he was the closest thing to what Shawn Michaels was for us in a lot of time before Shawn got to super short low but that undersize just fantastic wrestler great charisma you know great talk all the you know the knock on him is always a size and it's kind of this it's you know way it can't really similar to what happened to Brian Danielson was in wwe like he was just so undersized that sometimes the amount of abuse he was taking was catching up to him and and they're kind of some of the like it's the concussion thing that's you know pushing this and you know for Daniel brought or brought to him i said he had to you know completely alter his style to compensate for that i don't know if Adam calls ever really fully done that and it sucks because you know you go back to 2022 if you had told me that by 2025 Adam Cole and Keith Lee would not be active wrestlers on the a w roster i would have told you you're out of your mind like those two guys should have been world champions but because of injuries and everything else it's slowed down both those guys in a lot of ways and it's it's heartbreaking for for fans of Adam Cole like you guys like you and me that love watching this guy wrestle and enjoy everything he does what's baby face or heal that you know he's in that position now i hope it's not his last match but i also feel like he's one of those guys that you would keep around on your roster in some way shape or form because he

34:22 helps elevate everybody else around him whether he's in the ring out of the ring or just being like a locker room presence that you know keeps that joy around you he just loves wrestling and he loves the people involved with it so i hope it's not his last match but i hope a w figures out a way to keep him on board even during his downtime because he can be an asset to any company in that role and then lastly it's good to w we have a luscious that wrapped up the weekend uh... some of my notes from this one was becky baili lira match up to elevate lira in a big way uh top to bottom i thought it was one of the best ple w ple's of the year uh possibly like second only to wrestle many if you removed wrestle many from it i think this was my favorite ple that they have had this year eo versus ria was turning into a classic Naomi's cash in didn't overshadow that match which is really really good because sometimes when a cash in happened like no no not right now this match is awesome but it was fine and the crowd reaction state positive um i do have a strategic reason why Naomi may have moved over to raw that i'll talk about in just a second but let's just isolate it here to evolution dr.

35:30 tre your thoughts i thought this was one of the best non-recent mary adewy ple's this year yeah it i i love the show it from top to bottom fantastic show pushed all the right buttons i mean we get stefny vccore winning the battle royals was stefny's getting a title shot which i think everybody's happy with she's arguably the hottest you know attraction and wrestling or in especially women's wrestling right now um i thought jayden Naomi i thought their match was good and i don't think you you could have got me to say it would it would have been before the show eo and ria was a match of the year candidate until the cash in and still might end up in that discussion because it was just really really well done uh tritian tiffney was actually pretty good which i didn't have high expectations for that match but overall yeah from top to bottom maybe right behind wrestle made in the mission chamber but not far off from those two shows yeah it was a really really fun show uh then they Naomi thing here i i feel like this move to raw was strategic i think everybody's like oh this is really cool this is creative is is you know they're doing something that we did not expect um and they went in a completely different direction um i feel like this was strategic because i think they wanted avoid but fan backlash if jade cargo wins the title at summer slam and Naomi doesn't cash in i think everybody obviously 99 out of a hundred wrestling fans dare i say 99

37:06 and a half out of 100 wrestling fans were thinking that um it was going to be you know with jade and tiffney at rest at summer slam that there was a possibility for Naomi cash and i had the visions in my head triple threat for the rest of the year with bianca jade and Naomi the salt stuff that we saw on saturday night's main event with bianca coming back being the referee i felt like that was the direction would go and i would be totally fine with it and love it i think that they were nervous that if they went to summer slam jade wins the title which i suspect right now as we sit in record this podcast that will happen that everybody will be literally cheering for Naomi to come and cash in and what she doesn't there'll be that swath of social media disappointment that's what i feel like dr. trea i think yeah you can sit there and say that's awesome they went in a completely different direction and we didn't realize props a creative but i felt i felt like there was more to this your thoughts on my conspiracy theories i still think there's more to it i think this was a way of transitioning Naomi away from jade to then set up jade and bianca and if if if Naomi still around then yeah it's going to be triple threat season for all three of them this was a way of let's move Naomi over to raw let her be a heal because really with lives injury there's no real becky's the only real feeling like heal on raw that's credible and if you're not ready to do becky i mean if becky's helping elevate lira we needed another heal on raw that could be that just person everybody wants

38:40 dislike so i thought it was a smart move to make that transition move her over and then you can still set up jade tiffinny and then maybe bianca turns on jade in that match tiffinny retains and then you can still have bianca and jade that you're match heading into russian maybe this season yeah it's it's i don't know she says she's done with them maybe that's the right thing to do storyline wise just think a little conspiracy theory is overall but nonetheless very very enjoyable weekend for refreshing russian dr. tray and let's get to it uh which show won the weekend to you what show stood out this is tough because i and and honestly if you'd ask me before the weekend i didn't think it'd be this tough um i'm gonna go all in just because for that as long as it was it kept me entertained for that entire show like yeah did i have to break it up into into bite size chunks of times yes but from top to bottom for that long of a show to really have no filler matches and also because i just had low expectations for it going in i'm gonna like i guess i go to a w because like it's close i mean evolution a w all into me are one a one b but i'm just gonna give the edge to a w because i didn't expect much from it and it over delivered from it so your pick is

40:11 all in hmm yeah i know it's crazy i think i think i'm gonna go with evolution i thought that i first thought for this is like very tough because i think all in an evolution were some of the best non-resimony shows i've seen this year um yeah absolutely i think i'm gonna go with evolution because i think it was such a good show i i felt like the women really were like fuck you to everybody else i really felt like that was the point they were trying to get across i thought every match was really good and i thought everybody delivered i it's a very very tough call probably if all in texas was half the time of what it was and you just have a lot of the good matches that were in there and cut out all the other fluff um i would go in that direction but i felt like evolution was was one of the best shows i've seen this year not to try like i said for me like if i was ready it'd be like a 4.23 and a 4.21 like it was that close for me like i i enjoyed both shows immensely yeah no they were really good yeah and and the crazy thing is one of the credits i gave eight of you is i just risk everything why i give evolution there wasn't a ton of build for everything on that show like and you had baby face baby face in your main event so my expectations revolution were the high ball shows over delivered i think for me it just came down to like i have knocked a w really hard for three years and this was one of the best shows i have seen them do in three years so i just

41:45 i give them almost like a little bit of like credit like it's like extra credit for being so bad for three years that that show is really effing good yeah it uh it was a and i just want to say this too because i think we're narrowing it down all in texas and evolution i thought the entire weekend and professional wrestling was like phenomenal i thought again great american bash was like a very very good NXT show saturday night's main event i thought was really good if the Seth Ralland's injury doesn't happen and now goberg bitching i thought saturday night's main event was a really good like wwe special was a pli worthy no but i was not disappointed or bored with anything that i saw over the weekend and and overall dot stray i thought every show i watch even counting smacked down and raw if you want to do the friday monday thing i thought everything delivered weekend all weekend long from everything that we saw professional wrestling yeah i think as we record this show now from friday until now we haven't had a bad we haven't had a bad episode of wrestling the entire time i mean if you if you even even like to me saturday's main event was probably the worst of the four shows over the weekend and it was still probably like a three point eight yeah you know it's like there's like a three point eight of four a four two and a four two like that's in my head and then raw was good and you know dynamite was good like there hasn't been a bad episode of wrestling since you know from

43:16 friday until as we record the show now just been an outstanding week of wrestling yeah there's a couple of clouds that we don't like but dear god like to have that much wrestling over a seven day window and not be disappointed the entire weekend is an incredible job by both companies yeah awesome it was an awesome awesome weekend but next time guys just say for like the winner when i came in out of my house please i got by the way jeff i don't know if i said i got lucky my family was gone for the weekend yeah i'm gonna be saying this so i got i got the entire like something i'm literally like it's me the new puppy the cat we're sitting now watching wrestling that i go get some food billy douse i was sunday night i got sick and so that's why i had to catch up on some of the wrestling on monday and Tuesday but man's like you're god like yeah if if i had been on lockdown with the family the entire weekend yeah they would have somehow beaten me with a stick at some point to get me out of house yeah yeah no hundred percent hundred percent so there you go everything that took place in the world of professional wrestling let's get a couple plugs in spots of the way before we download uh wrap up this week's edition of srt you uh you can support us at patreon.com/srtupodcast and get this show ad free and immediately available once it's down done doing post-production work it's immediately thrown up on patreon with so many more exclusives coming soon some of the exclusives dr. trai we just started dropping srt u classic episodes episodes one through ten will be available here in the month of july on patreon and it dropped yesterday i'm gonna do these infrequently i invite dr. trai

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46:21 wrestling hit me up let me know what you guys want me to talk about i will put up my own show based on whatever you guys give me feedback on but when you're on facebook check out rock a scene championship wrestling jeff i have big news for this week's rock a city show not only do we have the ovw media champion Anthony katina coming in who's one of the hottest up and coming stars in the world of pressure wrestling but former nxt north american champion leo and ruffle be at our show this weekend and somebody that you know that i have history with leo rush will be at rogacy jabyship wrestling this weekend oh no it's not shamek man at least because i'd be i don't know is that is there going to be heat there or what i don't know if he remembers me enough if we actually have heat so i will and we'll play nice if you walk in and he's like you bitch and throws his trick at you what you do yeah and then i like but i'm excited about leon ruff because leon's wife is daffney uh referee daffney from uh or daffney uh lishon from wwe former haja parrera who's one of my dear friends and lover to death so i'm excited about having a big show at rock a city this weekend but also most importantly get out there and check out your own local professional wrestling shows i don't care if it's a big show five hundred people a thousand people or forty people inside of high school jim that's where you can see all those future stars so get out there support your own local wrestling shows and uh once again hit me up on the social media to let you let me know what you

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