Is This The Greatest Roster In Wrestling History!? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #735 – 3/14/24

0:00 It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition A Surial Do Show Episoe number seven and thirty five from March for fourteen, twenty twenty four. Welcome to this week's edition of ass R to You. I am one after the show, I am Jeff Tack twenty every single week my post a lot like Doctor Prey, Franklin, Doctor Trey. Were you excited for some big business my friend? Oh, you mean the wrestling show, not what we were talking about off air. Maybe a little bit of both. Maybe a little bit of both. I thought you said. Welcome to as Rtuca's a conversation we had off air. Doctor Trey and I are talking to people are like, WHOA, what the frick were they doing before they show? Dot Tran.

1:00 I have some Shark Tank ideas and it involves potty training for toddlers. I will leave it at that. I don't want to. I just want everybody prepared for us to be on Shark Tank within what six months the latest. The hardest part we developing a prototype. I'll work on it. Let's just say it's a belt and a potty belt potty. For those who listened to the podcast, a couple of weeks ago with young Sammy Franklin joining us for the first ever break in potty emergency in SRTU history. This is what it all has stem stem two my friends. Is Doc Tray and I trying to branch out and make millions of dollars because that's what this would do, but again I don't want to share it. Yeah, we just got to bring back the Dad Podcast. Oh yes, that's right, Dad's Home.

1:49 There you go, with one and only Mike Bauer and the Sweet Nasty Chris Cause for those who are longtime listeners here of the Real Guy radio platform in the various different podcasts that have been out there. Switching back to professional wrestling from belt Potty, which is the working title of what Doctor Trey and I are working on for our Shark Tank idea, we saw some big business take place last night on aw Dynamite Doctor Trey and this person to you is is kind of a very controversial wrestler in being at Mercedes Monette, the former Sasha Banks is now officially after months and months and months of speculation, all elite and made her debut in grand fashion fashion in her hometown of Boston, Massachusetts, last Night Doctor Trey, I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on Mercedes Monette officially joining an elite wrestling So is she all elite if she's still partially in New Japan. I think, well, I mean she's she is a full time wrestler. In her contract does state that she can do work in New Japan, but the priority will be aw So it's not all Alie, it's mostly Alli. It is it's all Lead. So that if you remember the New Japan contract she had was like for three months and maybe like it was either like three months or four matches, and then she got injured.

3:22 With what she has come out in interviews lately, it was a career ending, potentially career ending injury when her ankle broke in her match with will Nightingale in the finals of the New Japan Strong Women's Championship. She ended up having they ended up having to do a little bit of a swerve there. She was set to win that match. Willow Nightingale had to win that match because Mercedes Monet has been out since then. I think that injury occurred back in May, so she was I don't I mean, she was a New Japan pro wrestling star at some point. But I always felt like once she debuted at wrestled Kingdom, this new person Mercedes Monet. To me, it always felt like she was going to be in AW even before she appeared at All Out in London over the summer. Yeah, I mean it's good for AW.

4:13 It got their name out there. People. They are die hard Mercedes Monette aka Sasha Banks fans out there. I've seen all over social media like whether you're on I don't want to say the red side of the Blue syce that that's political, but there's this weird division in wrestling where you're you're either an elite fan or you're a WWE fan, and supposedly you can't cross over. But like I've seen people out there, like I leterally say, I saw somebody say that she's on the Mount Rushmore of greatest women's wrestlers of all time. I've seen that people like on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. So what it did for AW was great. He got their name out there, people taking notice, checking out the product. That's fantastic Mercedes Money.

4:56 Though to me, for me personally, it is one of the most polarizing figures in professional wrestling, because for a long time I was not a fan of her work. I thought she wrestled kind of lazy at times in the ring. Like she wrestled, she was never big on. She was never the one carrying the match. It was always her part, like whoever her dance partner was, when that was always kind of carrying the match. Then pandemic time hit and she stepped her game up, went to a whole of her level, and I was applauding her for it, And now it's kind of back to I'm I'm neutral on her, so to speak. I do think she's a bit of a drama queen at times, But at the end of the day, it's it's good for aw it's good for the women's division. It's going to get people to tune in and check out the product.

5:45 But I just kind of see because that women's division, outside of a couple of female wrestlers is very green or very raw, which means she's going to have to carry a lot of matches to make them beyond the perceived level of what Mercedes Monee should be. And I haven't really seen that body of work from her consistently enough to really say if she can do it or not. I think Mercedes Monette is approaching a mount rushmore of some of the best women's wrestlers of all time. I mean, obviously she is a catapult into the greatest era of women's wrestling ever. I mean, we went from the bron Panis era that we predominantly saw on w W and ECW and WCW as well, and they became legitimate professional wrestlers to the point where I get more excited for women's matches, women's feuds, women getting the opportunity to main event WrestleMania than I ever have in my entire existence as a wrestling fan. Like, we just came off of a year where Doctor Trey and I both named Rhea Ripley are overall male or female wrestler the year, and rightfully so.

7:06 Like Rihea Ripley to me still is one of the hottest commodities in all professional wrestling right now, one of the most entertaining wrestlers you will see on any roster, and that is because of what Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch Bailey, Sasha Banks did Page Emma. That NXT group of women made professional women's wrestling cool and then they took it to the main roster and they and they got the divas a chance to keep going and really spread. And she's been part of what I consider to be one of the best matches we've ever covered in the history of this podcast, when her and Bailey tore down the House and NX takeover Brooklyn. I think it's one of the I think it's the greatest women's match I've ever seen. She has headlined pay per views with Bianca Belair at WrestleMania, first ever women to headline, or excuse me, the first African American women to headline a Wrestlemnian event. That was massive. She was in hell and a cell elimination Chamber. She helped bring in the women's tag team titles. She is a trailblazer. There is a lot of things that she has been tied to for a lot of first or a lot of doors being busted down, and her name is tied all over that the part of Mercedes Monet, which is gonna be difficult for me to get used to right away here, but I'm sure it will ease in, just like every other time where I'm like, how the hell am I got to call Dean Ambrose, John Moxley, and now just flows off the tongue is I think the

8:39 part that gives her criticism. And you said before how polarizing she can be. She has walked out of we twice. The first time she walked away, she came back eventually, and then she had that run during the pandemic. The second time she walked away, she walked away for good and right, wrong or indifferent. You can't sit there as a rending fan whether you agree or disagree with her. I think all of the people that agree and to disagree probably agree on is that there's always that possibility that she could be a little bit of a flight risk again, where if things don't go her way in aw or things that are going on that she doesn't like or feels like that she needs to stand up for, will she walk out on the company again and stand true to what she believes in and again, depending on how you look at it, it's like, all right, power to the people. We love that type of you know, attitude and popularity. But for me, as a guy who I'm not there obviously, I don't know what's going on. I'm a fan of Mercedes Monett. I support the power to the wrestlers and all that stuff, but you got to admit that it's like, Okay, first time, all right, she stuck to her guns and this is cool to see she doesn't like what's going on, and then when she did the second time, it's like, what exactly happened that led to this? And that's where it's very polarizing. She's able to say how she feels and you know stand by it. It's it's really tough, doctor

10:13 Tray. I mean, the wrestler I really like, but the character of the person there are times where it's like, okay, could she be a flight risk again? For aw? Yeah, I mean she she arguably is the CM punk of women's wrestling, Like I don't know if that makes sense, Like, and I was thinking about this, well, what were you talking? Like, if you were to rank the four horse women, where do you rank her among the four women? That's a tough one because I think all four of them are one a's if that makes sense, Doctor Tray, it's to me, I think I would probably go Charlotte one, Becky two, Bailey three, Sasha four, and I think Sasha is four because of the walking out and stuff. There's been gaps in her career, whether it's because she has voluntarily walked out of her job or she had that major injury, like she just is coming off of with New Japan. Yeah, and that's when people tell me about talking about Mount rushmorees. I'm like, okay, well she's if you and I, I mean, I agree.

11:18 I think it is kind of like it's a very close four. It's it's you know, arguably one A, one B, one C, one D. But if you're going to write the four, I think she comes in fourth. And then you talk about Mount Rushmore. It's like, okay, well do you put it? You can't put her above Leta. You can't really put her above Trish. You can't put her above you know, do you put her above page slash so rya like like where did? Like it's tricky at times. It is a little bit of like you have to pick your favorite flavor of ice cream in a sense. But I think what you're saying about her being a flight risk about like how is she going to blend into this locker room, because we've seen this women's locker room at time b very very get along and everybody's happy and then We've seen it be very very divisive at times as well, So it's gonna be a really interesting dynamic when you're putting her into the mix, especially with you know, I hate saying this, but the women's division in AW is a little bit like the TNA era when they would bring in ww people and all of a sudden shotgun them to the top of the card and then slowly push them back down. Impact kind of does the same thing. We've seen it with Surrey, We've seen with Ruby Soho, We've seen with Tony Storm with her initial debut and then this rebroke. We see it now with Diana Barrazza. They kind of start hot and then it's like they kind of get pushed back down. It's that new toy philosophy that we've talked about Tony kNN in the past, like he loves his shining new toys, and then after he's played with it for a

12:48 little while, it kind of gets pushed back to the back of the toy box. I hear you, and I love the comparisons there for what TNA used to do, right, Like a major WWE name would come in and all of a sudden, they're immediately in the main events spot and props to Tony Kahn. He doesn't always do that. There are times he certainly has, but he doesn't always do that. But I do feel like that this is exactly what the AW Women's Division needed is a Mercedes Monette. They needed a franchise player. No disrespect to everybody on the ADW Women's Division roster, there are a lot of bright bright spots. There are people that are really ascending up the ladder, whether it be Julia Hart timeless, Tony Storm, who's been around for a long time, Blue Sky has really come into her own with the Julia Perry and I'm really enjoying the Chris stat Lander, Willem Nightingale stuff. Obviously loves Soireya. Doctor Britt Baker has really become a top star in all professional wrestling. Jamie Hayter we sincerely miss from being injured now.

13:50 I think she's been out for almost a full year at this point. But I have always felt like, and this is gonna sound awful, and I hate to say this, but I've always felt like there has been this It's like the W Women's roster completely overshadows anything that's going on in the AW Women's division roster, whether it's the types of matches, the matches that they're having, the storylines that they're having, the creative the focus, it's always been WWW and very far behind. I've always felt like is AW And I think we've talked about this in the podcast, and I think maybe we differ on this, but I feel like, if you took, like removing Mercedes mon Aide out to Trey, the best AW women's wrestler, in your opinion is in the entire five years, is who you like over like in ring or just overall overall? Who has been the most overall best wrestler, Who has been the face of the women's division for the you know an AAW When they say who is the face of the AW Women's division, who comes to mind? Said Britt Baker until the last like six months as she's been out.

15:03 Okay, Yeah, I would go with doctor Britt Baker too, And I granted I get the injury stuff, but I still think that even that aside, like the history of a division, it's her right. Yeah, I agree. I think if you put Britt Baker into w w W, like, where would she rank with some of the best women's wrestlers right now, she would be towards the top of the card because the character would kind of translate. The character of doctor bur Baker might translate better in WW at times as well. So I still think she'd be probably if you're doing a pecking order, maybe fifth or six, I would put Rhya, Bianca Bailey, Eo Sky Live, Morgan, Becky Lynch ahead of her. Would I would probably put her above EO and Live just because I think I think the pro ability, the character ability is but I mean, she could be kind to stale at times, I got it. Yeah, But she wouldn't be writing her own promos in WW. She'd have writers helping her along to keep it a little bit fresh, Okay. I think so this is where we like differ on the entire thing. I still think at the end of the day, I just feel like you inject some of the AW Women's wrestlers in there and to w w W and they just don't hold a candle to it to them right now, I think the one issue they have with the Women's Vision AW is kind of the same thing they have with the majority of their

16:34 roster is I don't know. I don't really feel like there's a pecking I hate saying this because this is our old tag team name. I don't think there's a pecking order in AW. It feels like everybody's right, like the majority of the stars are all right around the same level. Like there's no like a WW go oh, that's a main event guy, that's a mid card guy that's bottom of the car guys. Same thing with the women's division, where in AW it kind of does feel like everybody's like basically treading all like within a step or two of each other, like you know, Orange Cassidy's you know, International Title Rod, you know down, but then he could be the main event like it does. It doesn't feel like there's a flow chart to AW like there is with WWE. I think some of the women AW AW, if they were put into the WW structure, could actually be higher. I completely agree with you. I would say when Ruby Soho entered AAW, she was above Live Morgan in w w WA. And I think they have completely widened the gap there, and that's because the creative.

17:40 I think, at the end of the day, the creative in AW for the women's division has done them a disservice. I don't think any of the women's wrestlers are poor wrestlers. I don't think they're bad wrestlers. I think if most of them went into we they would be extremely successful. It's just that AW doesn't know what to do with them, which could be very scary for the Mercedes Mona store in general. But I do feel like there are glimmers of hope there. Case in point, very sidebar end of Dynamite On Wednesday Night, Mercedes Bonet makes a safe for Willow Nightingale who injured her over Julie Hart and sky Blue. Somebody's like, where the hell is Chris Statlander. I disagree with the execution of this. They ended up putting out like a YouTube video where stat Lerning explains that she was taken out by Julie Hart and sky Blue, which is which is fine, and maybe that's actually leading to a Chris statlerner Lander heel turn and she actually did not get beaten up by them. But I would have ran something on Dynamite where like the camera pans and Statlander's taken out and Stokely Hathaway is over her, like I can't believe they did that to you, And then Julie Hart and sky Blue come out, or as they're beating her up Willow Nightingale, you show the backstage of Chris Statlander taken out. I would have liked that on the main show.

19:00 They did it on the YouTube channel and on social media. I like that. I liked that they executed that and they actually had enough thought and detail to that because add to something that they're sincerely lacking. But you know, again, there's glimmers of hope, and we can only hope for the best. But the reason why the aw women's division is not as good as w we's women's division, to me completely is not the athleticism, the ringability, any of that. It is the creative Doctor Trey. It's why would I care about this? Yeah, And that's why I was comparing it kind of to like those NA days, because you know, you would see a guy come you see a guy or a girl because I don't want to forget the knockouts division in TENA, because the knockouts division has been one of their strengths for over a decade. But you'd see somebody come in super hot, get pushed to the mood, and then three months later be you know, in a in a backstage vignette with a mop or something like, it's just like, wait, wasn't that person a main eventure like not too long ago?

20:02 And you know, you see it a little bit with you know, the Ruby sohos. Now like Ruby came in super hot, huge push, got paired with the outpass, still a huge push, and now a mid tier angle with you know, Sorea and Daddy Magic or cool Hey Looui camera which one? I forget which is which? But it's like, no, like Ruby Soho is one of the best in ring female wrestlers in the world, and we forget like it's just kind of pushed to the side at times. And then, you know, as much as we enjoy sky Blue and Julia Hart, does that feel like a main event level feud for Mercedes Monette coming in like it it kind of feels like, oh, of all the people that she's gonna get involved with, it's the Julia Hart sky Blue storyline.

20:52 It's not Tony Storm, it's not Sireu's not here the dream matches we might be thinking of. It's sky Blue and Juwl your heart. It's this is where the creative always kind of makes me nervous. And Mercedes might have come in and said, Hey, I want to work with Willow and whoever you got to work with, just pair me up with And that might be the case. But for the casual fan tuning in for the first time you see Mercedes in the ring with Willow and Julie and sky you're like, oh, these must be main event people in aw and it's not. It's like her walking in if you do for the Intercontinental title in WWE instead of the world title, it's kind of the structure doesn't make sense of where you're placing here, because to me, that's a mid card feud for your new big free agent signing. It's like sign signing a three hundred hitter and sending in a triple A. But but you know what you know you had said before, like TNA will bring in w stars and push them to the top, Like do you want them to do that with Mercedes Monette because I feel like making Julia Hart and Sky Blue and Wellow Nightingale or even Chris Statlander. Let's say that they involve her into this. Legit Stars is a really big deal ultimately as well. It's it's great for their careers, but for the company when you have I disagree with that. I think it's great for the company too well, because here's the thing. Once, this is my my my thought process on it is you're now elevating the TBS title to what's either equal

22:22 to the women's titles. Like you're not you're not setting that structure. You're not setting that pecking order, so to speak. You know, it's like for the first person, for the person tuning in, you see this and you go, hey, this is great for like I said earlier, it's great for AEW as a brand recognition, it's great for those women involved with her. But now the first the person who's a diehard Sasha Banks fan who turned into AW for the first time ever, you're gonna think sky Blue and you know, excuse me, sky Blue and Willow Nightingale and Julia Hart are the focal core o the women's division to fight out later on that actually they're kind of in the middle. So like, it's just it's it's a thing to me, I hear you on the first night. I think it's a little bit too soon to think about the full creative on this entire thing.

23:14 I think ultimately she gets to the AW Women's Championship with Thomas Tony Storm. But I don't the way that AW does things, especially now with the ranking system, for her to come in and immediately become the number one contender, it makes like no sense. We can't like bash AW creative and they're like, all right, welcome aboard, you're going to have the number one contender. But you know, Cody didn't come in to WWE and challenge for the Innercontinental title. He came in and got into the main event picture. You know, Jade had her moments in the rumble with the main event people. WWE has that ability? Do they have that ability? In AW you have the women's division, Like who would who would be? Who should she feud with? Doctor Trey? I mean, I'm serious, I have no idea outside of timeless Tony Storm as the champion. I don't know unless Britt Baker came back from injury. Uh and even then you got to build her back up. I don't know who they would put her with in that first feud.

24:12 I think Willow Nightingale makes ten sense because Willow took her out, but Willow's hasn't been booked. Great, but it's like, so who do you put her with? I mean, I like this is what I talk about, like the structure in the pecking order, Like it feels like outside of Tony Storm, everybody else is kind of in the middle Age. So it's like, do you set it up? Like I mean, to me, Sorea is a bigger star than Julia Hart, Like if you had her come out like they they had Soraya and uh, what's her face? You know, kind of beat up Ruby Soho. What if Mercedes Bande came to Ruby Soho's defense and then you get Ruby or you get Mercedes and Soirey at some point. That's kind of a dream match for WWE fans. I'm conserned Banks and Page Russell, Well we thought on We're Page he actually got hurt.

24:59 Yeah, I hear you. I'm concerned very seldom across paths like that's I still think Seray and Ruby Soho are a little bit higher, you know, perceived than Julia, Willow and Scott So it's just it's just ques like it's a little bit of like this is where the creative comes in, where there's no differentiating between the top of his a vision and the bottom. It all feels very very kind of level, and I think you need to start establishing that kind of hierarchy, so to speak, so that way, when you do have somebody come in that can be a focal point, you have somebody on equal footing with them to start them off with. I think with Mercedes Monette coming into AW and them adding I believe it's Jennifer Pepper Peppermin, the lady who left w W, who was like credited for the women's division and is supposed to be like the Brian Gritz of to the Rock is to her, to Mercedes Moonet, like Mercedes Renee's official creative writer, and was given a ton of props in w and they said it was a big loss.

26:07 I think that everything that we know about the AW Women's Division pre Mercedes Monet, we have to kind of delete from our brains now. And it's basically almost in a little bit of a restart of a creative all encompassing. You have a legit franchise player now on your roster. How do you build around her, how do you build people up with her? And how do you make the AAW Women's Division better? I think that is ultimately what it is. Like I struggle to like think about who she should feud with right away. I know he threw out Soaya's name out there, but I'm concerned about the long term ability of say even wrestling, because you few and far between you actually see her wrestle, and if she wrestles, it's a lot of tag team matches, and when she does singles, it's it's very few and far between. It's a lot of four way matches, stuff like that.

27:03 It's very difficult when AW and granted and over the last six months they have not completely like turn a blind eye to the women's division like there would be in the past. They're they're just not there yet. And I think that this signing with Mercedes Monet is big in the all important, encompassing growth of the AW women's division. Six months from now, a year from now, if it's still the same doctor Trey and we have not seen improvements with Mercedes Monet on the roster, then yet the bells and whistles are going to be alarming off. But I just don't think that I think there are two green I think they're too young, and I think that they have just done a disservice to the women's division in all honesty for too long that they're just not on the equivalent yet that when Mercedes Monet signs with the company, it's like, who do you put her with? And you're like, well, it could be one of three wrestlers, it could be in WWE. It's like, well, we may put her with this person for now and ultimately get her to the aw Women's Championship match. If that makes sense. I think.

28:10 I think in a way with Mercedes signing, it's a little bit of a start over as well. Yeah. To me, this is kind of like when you have that rebuilding franchise and they bring in you know, you get the one person to buy in and that attracts other people. Like I get like Mercedes can be a building block because if you look at this women's division over five years, outside of Britt Baker, it's constantly shifting who they feel like they're building this division around. Like at one point it was Rio, at one point it was Nyla Rose, and at one point it was the outcast, and then now you feel like it's Tony Storm like and then it was Jade Cargill at one point as well. Like they've had six or seven people they feel like they were going to push in just a short amount of time. And at this point now you look around and you're like, well, Jade's gone, Nyla's on collision at best. You know, you hardly see Rio Kiashida is a two time women's champion and three time women's champion, but there's no you know, Tony Storm right now is the focal point.

29:11 But like if the character grows stale, where does that go? And then you bring in Deanna Parrazzo and it's like you have the pieces, it's just you have to give it structure because you know, like I said, we watched the Rumble, we all anticipate Jade Cargill and who's she involved with? She gets involved with Naya Jacksonancabelle Air and like the she's not going after you know, the lower card NXT women, Like she's hitty high spots for what her projection should be. And yeah, you might want to build this division around Willow and Sky and Julia going forward like four or five years out.

29:52 But not having a structure in place now is it's not a hindrance, but it just kind of bogs it down a little bit. Yeah, this is an interesting conversation because this is organically kind of shifted into what I wanted to bring up next with Mercedes Monett joining ALI Wrestling. We talked about this about a month or two ago when the realization was coming that Kazisiocada, will Ospray, Mercedes Monet was going to be joining ALI Wrestling, and we talked about how could they save the company, could they help turn it around? The addition to the roster, And you look at this roster and this is something that they were trumpeting on Dynamite last night and rightfully so it's like this is one of the greatest assembly of professional wrestlers on one roster than you've ever seen before. And they're not wrong. From Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks to Chris Jericho and Adam Copeland and Christian to John Moxley, Claudio Casignoli, Brian Danielson, Jay White, Kazichio Ocado, will Ospray, Mercedes Monet, Eddie Kingston, there's this FTR. There's just so many talented wrestlers. Swerve Strickland, Hangman Page, Samoa, Joe Wardlow, Adam Cole, Rogers, Strong, Kyle O'Reilly. There are so many talented wrestlers on this roster.

31:12 Powerhouse, Ops Canisco, caniske to Keshka. I was on a roll there and nearly stumbled on his name, Siami Givara, the Hardy Boys. I mean, there's so many talented wrestlers on this roster and they're trumpeting rightfully, so which begs the question, is this the greatest roster of wrestling talent ever? This is a two part question. This is certainly the first part here, Doctor Trey. I think on paper right now, the AW roster is better than the ww roster. Is it the greatest roster of wrestling talent ever? Too soon to tell? To me? I still think those w W rosters in nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and three were the greatest rosters I've ever seen in professional wrestling history. From Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brett Hart, the Rock, Undertaker of Triple Ah, Micfoley, Kurt Angle, Big Sho Caine, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, and the list goes on and on and on. To me, that was the greatest roster in wrestling history, and that's why they were so successful. They would say back there, it would be like the fourth match on the card, and it would be filled with main event level talented wrestlers that had star power and name value.

32:29 I think, to me that period of time best roster ever. But the AW roster on paper right now is certainly knocking on that door, Doctor Trey and creating a little bit of buzz and creating a little bit of noise. Where do you think that this current AW roster stands when we look at greatest roster of wrestling talent ever? If you're going off in ring talent, the ability in the ring, it's arguably the greatest of all time, like just in ring professional wrestling ability. If you're going off like overall professional wrestlers, the attitude era, like you said that ninety seven to two thousand and two, two thousand and three is arguably my favorite. I also like, I'm older than you, so I go back to like W to B from like eighty four to eighty eight, eighty nine was really strong. When you have the Hogas, the Macha Man's, the Rick Rude, Opening Warrior, Carrie Von Eric, Mister Perfect, Brett hard Sean, all those guys in that window right there, it's it's right there wrestling talent wise, and I it's almost it's almost an issue where they are almost too deep of a roster right now. So that's it's an incredibly talented roster, and they have all the pieces in place to make a really strong run over the next few years.

33:46 So I mean they've assembled. I mean, this is you know, the Philadelphia Eagle was the dream Team of like two thousand and twelve. I think it was when they had Donovan McNabb and Ricky Waters and had All Owens and they had that great team that they dubbed the Dream Team. But then that team went like seven to nine. So that's where you were like too much talent at times. But it's I don't think I've ever seen a better collection of wrestling talent one time. Those Attitude Air days and those you know, the Golden Arab WWF days were great characters, but I don't know even if those guys could match the inring ability of what AW has on the roster right now. It's very funny that you went these sports analogy route. I think maybe some of the names on that Eagles Dream Team roster weren't there.

34:34 I mean that just shows our age because I think you picked Ricky Waters, who was like in the nineties Eagles, I meant to say, Leshan McCoy, Yeah, and I think it was actually Michael Vick that was in there. But I hear you, okay, because there's other sports analogies that you could go with. I'm a Yankee fan. Go through some of those two thousand rosters, those lineups, and it's like, how the hell did they ever lose a game? And how do they never win a championship? I think of the Philadelphia Phillies start in rotation when they had Roy Holliday, Cliff Lee, roy Oswalt Cole Hamils and then of course Joe Blanton, and they didn't win any championships. The Braves when they had the four Aces and the only Round one World Series when they had Glavin Small, Sematis and Avery. What about Miami Heat the first year that they had Bosh Wade and Lebron James, they did not win the NBA Championship. They ended up winning some, but they did not win an NBA championship. I also always think of the Los Angeles Lakers when they had Kobe and Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

35:30 They lost in the NBA Finals to a legit team in the Detroit Pistons. So if you're a sports fan, these analogies are making sense to you. If you're not a sports fan and just a wrestling fan, you're like, what the hell are they talking about? The last sixty seconds. Nonetheless, what we're trying to say is you could have all the talent in the world on paper on the roster. You know their abilities, But if you don't take full advantage of those abilities then and it's not entertaining, then nobody gives a shit. That's what it comes down to is if a tree falls in the wood, does anybody there to hear it? Is the famous phrase on this one. Right now, the AW roster up against the w roster. As I pointed out to me, the current roster AW is better, right it potential legitimate entering workers on paper, it's better WWE. The product is better than AW. Right now, AW has made some very good momentum forward in my opinion lately. I know we kind of differed on that on last week's episode, Doctor Trey, but I feel like AW has made some good strides momentum wise creatively, the WW creative to me, each and every time I sit down and I watch Ron SmackDown. No disrespect to NXT.

36:42 I just feel like those shows have been hitting out of the park. They've been a ton of fun, really good, enjoyed it, entertaining, and I'm pumped for WrestleMania. AW has that potential, But what AW is missing is the creative, the entertainment, and the why in it all. As a wrestling fan, at the end of the day, all we want is a why. Why are these two wrestlers are fighting? Why do they have a feud? Why do I care about this? What is bringing me to want to watch this? Why do I want to watch this? And that is what I think AW is missing at the end of the day. And if they are able to find that why, if they are able to find that creative, if they are able to find that entertainment, Doctor Trey, then we have a very good situation on our hands because we're going to have two extremely good wrestling promotions in the United States. I cannot stress enough.

37:35 Four or five years ago pre AW, if somebody told you that there's gonna be another United States promotion that was gonna have will Osprey J. White, because it's Gocott, A Kenny Omega. The list goes on and on. From folks from New Japan in the United States performing each and every week. Wrestling fans would sign up for that tenfold. But again, if there's no why, there's no entertainment, if there's no creative then we're not going to give a crap. We know the athleticism and the inn ring is there. You got to find that other fifty percent and make it a good solid foundation as to why I should invest two hours every Wednesday, one hour on Friday, two hours every Saturday night. And to me, Doctor Trey, that is what it is. At the end of the day. We named a lot of amazing dream teams in sports, and every nearly every one of those failed. And if they didn't fail and they ended up climbing over that mountain, it's because they tinkered a little bit. Miami Heat, they lost, they had the Big Three. So what they do They improved the rest of their team, rounded out their bench, and they made it a better opportunity for them to win the championship. You can't just win every wrestling week on paper by what your roster looks like. You got to deliver at the end of the day. Yeah. The thing that sometimes wrestling fans forget is that most of us became fans because of characters. And you know, I've said on the show many times, to me, wrestling when I was a kid was real life superhero. And I think that sometimes I hear people go, oh, I'm tired of promos or I get tired of these people talking or

39:07 the backstage segments. But it's like that's character development. Like you learn about weaknesses, you learn about strengths, you learn about why this person hates this person, and why these guys are fighting, and you know, it's like, you know the Superman Lex Luthor stories. You know, it's like, well, why is Lex a villain? Because if you read the comics, you know it was because he lost all his hair and had all this stuff because of you know, Superman's asteroid crashing into the same ara that he was into, the radiation, all that stuff. You learn about why these guys don't get along, and a lot of times I feel like, aaw they just want everybody to kind of be in the middle. And if you look at the people who have really gotten hot and broke out, you know over the last couple of years, it was because they had defined roles, like they knew I'm the bad guy I gotta make everybody hate me, or I'm the good guy. I gotta make everybody love me. They would overcome obstacles or create obstacles wherever it is, whether it was you know, Darby Allen being the greatnerdog, Orange Cassidy being the underdog, you know, Swarre Strickland MGF just being slime backs, you know, just doing heinous things. A lot of times they like the stuff with will Ospring. Will Ospring is one of the best wrestlers in the world. Is he a good guy or a bad guy right now? I can't tell. You know. You got Samoa Joe. Samoa Joe, Like one minute you feel like he's a bad guy, the next minute he's fighting Warlow and is he okays he a good guy?

40:23 Like wrestling fans do like having their characters defined on one side or the other. The majority of the time, we do get interactions like we saw on Raw the other night with the end of that Gauntlet match with sammy's Ay and Jaed Gables, two good guys fighting for the chance to fight Gunther and you're a little torn. But we have enough character development in them to understand why this is important to each of them, and I don't. I think AW is the one thing they lack in is character development. And a lot of times it's because we see the switching back and forth so many times. I mean, AW five years old, the young bucks have only already switched sides four times, you know, like it's at times AW suffers from big show syndrome. We gotta flip, We gotta flip this person baby Face, we gotta flip this person heel. It's like you do that and the audience can't keep up with it. And you know, I always compare wrestling to selp Offus. I can tune on. I haven't watched Days of our Lives in probably a decade, but I can tune it on, and just because of what I watched fifteen years ago, I can still kind of know who the characters are and what their roles are on this show. And wrestling usually is like that as well. And that way, when somebody switches, it's a big deal and people take notice of it. Right now, it's like half the roster. I couldn't tell you if they were a quote unquote babyface or a heel. And fifty to fifties splits aren't entertaining to me because it's not really obstacles to overcome at that point. On next week's podcast or the

41:58 bonus edition, we're gonna do is Doctor Trey, He's got to go through the history of Bowen Hope's relationship on sr TU bonus cast. I'm sure you can. I remember that as a kid growing up. You know, it's funny you bring up that point about the heels and babyfaces because I was watching Dynamite on Wednesday night and they had the Elite because it's Cocott or the Young Bucks in the trios match against Eddie Kingston, Pentel, Sara Miedo and Pac and the Elite all come down in their center entrance that they have. Now they're clearly heals Kingston and pen to come in through on the face side of Dynamite. Pop comes through the heel side, and it's like, wait what. And I think that's it's difficult for old school fans in you and I to get my head around that. And that's funny because I thought to myself while watching Dynamite and even with the will Ospry stuff, right that is, he's still with the Don Calls family because he's coming out of the babyface tunnel.

42:50 He's getting a babyface reaction. He's acting his babyface, but everybody else Canesco Ta Keshka and Will Powerhouse Hobbs is all coming out on the other side with Don Callous and they're all heels and I and I'm like, am I just like an old head. I'm wrestling here because I can't get my head around this because from a character standpoint, it does not make sense. And I don't know if that's new age wrestling Doctor Trey, or if if I'm right in that, because I do think that is a little bit of a mental block that maybe old fans like you and I do it for problem with maybe we are old heads on this. It's it's a little bit. So here's the thing on and I've seen this on the Independence and it's one of the issues that I used to always butt up against is everybody, you know, on the indies, you gotta sell merchandise, and it's hard to sell merchandise. It's hard to sell autographs if you're the bad guy like MJF.

43:45 Out of you know, I've been on the Indies now almost a decade now, Jeff. As crazy as that sounds, MJF was the best on the indies of being able to sell merchandise and still be a dick, you know, best I've ever seen. I've seen eyes that were just total jerks of the ring. As soon as they say down their birch table, they're like shaking hands and super happy to see you and best friends and buy this, and by that, da da da. Nobody really likes to be reviled anymore, Like everybody feels like they have to have some kind of admiration or some kind of Hey, you know, I can be a jerk, but I still want to be somewhat endearing to the fans. You know. There was always a saying that, like if you were a like Shawn Michael's back when he first turned heel, toned down a lot of his high flying stuff because the high flyers typically got cheered by the fans because they're doing these crazy moves I know we've ever seen before, you know, And he would tone it down when he was a heel, and then he would do more high flying stuff as a baby face. But then you see, you know, guys who are heels now doing, you know, four fifties and six thirties and all these crazy things it's like, well, how can I hate that guy?

44:51 He's so damn athletic. Like that's why, like, for me, the most one of the most entertaining people to watch in AW, even though some people say his axe growing stale is Christian Cage because he's one of the last true heels in that company. Everybody else feels like they're in Shades of gray Land. But Shades of Gray doesn't paint a great picture. It just comes off kind of bland if you look at it that way. Yeah, yeah, I mean, same episode, I'm thinking sort of Strickland's coming out of the baby Face Tunnel now with Prince n Nah and then later in the night the Gates of Agony for their tag match with Jericho and Hook even though they're all aligned in the Mogal Embassy, to come out as the Heel Tunnel. It's it doesn't make sense sometimes. I think that's where either I need to get my head around it, or AW needs to kind of adapt to rest and fans like Dotch Trey and I and being a little bit more stringent on babyface and heel personas, because that is something that an element that I do think is missing at times. It's greatly successful in WA they still do old school babyface heel type characters. I think the only wrestler that I would say is on the tweener side of things right now is Drew McIntyre, and he leans a little bit more on the heelside especially, but I want to be shocked if he's a babyface in a couple months again or work in this tweener role a little bit more. And I think that's what's kind of you know, keeping this AW roster again from you know, being the greatest of all time is the creative and entertainment side of things. So it's very funny

46:22 in that discussion with Mercedes Bone that that kind of blended into that naturally, because that is what I wanted to bring up next as Mercedes Monet is that latest addition to the roster and one that we have discussed. If it's the part of the greatest roster of all time again, on paper, I think Doctor Trainer in agreement. On paper it is one of the greatest rosters of all time. How it translates to what we see each and every week and the type of business AW is able to do from this point forward is going to be very telling very important, and twenty twenty four is a very very important year for AW because it's like, really no more excuses at this point. It's like, how do we bring people to this product and make it better. We'll make it damn entertaining outside of just the d ring stuff.

47:05 Make it entertaining, make it creative, make me want to see these two wrestlers go at. That's why I think Hangman Page and Swarb of Strickland has been one of the best feuds in AW in recent memory. So lots of changes in AW with a roster, and they'll be heading into Dynasty, which is their next pay per view in the coming weeks, and we'll see how the creative continues to go again. I will say for anybody that thinks we're haters on AW, I would say, since you know, in the last couple of weeks, since maybe December time with the Continental Classic, I just think the creative for AW has really improved. It's not two we level yet, but it's been really really good. And I enjoyed Dynamite this past weenday. I thought it was a very solid episode of Dynamite. We have some new additions to the WA Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty four out Trey Muhammad Ali, Thunderbolt Patterson, and the US Express, micro Tona and Bury Wyndham, all announced for the w Hall of Fame. Your thoughts here on the latest additions to the Class of twenty twenty four. Dot to Troy uh Muhamad Ali, I thought he was already in. I did too. That's funny you said that I did too. I was literally like, why was he not one of the first celebrity inductees Sammy Hallie was at WrestleMania once.

48:16 I'm surprised it took this long. Thunderbolt Patterson, I love that induction. I don't think a lot of people know who Thunderbolt Patterson is, but if you go watch anything about Dusty Rhodes, he gives so much credit to Thunderbolt Patterson for developing who The Dusty Rhodes character was just severely underrated. The US Express. I don't know about you. I was surprised at that one so speak because I don't. I think there are one time tag team champions, but they're better known in other tag teams, in other stables. I mean, micro tun is better known for his time as IRS with money inc That I think he was in the US Express Barry Windham of course with his time in the Horseman. I'm not gonna I hate saying this. I almost feel like this was facing because of Brace passing to induct retired they end at this time, so and and to put the US Express in before the Midnight Express, I think is a travesty. So outside of that, I think the other inductees are are all great and it makes a lot of sense. But uh yeah, to me, the fact that you know, beautiful Bobby is not a w Hall of Fame with either sweet Stand or Lover Moore Dennis is just you know, sad because Army they're one of the great top five tag teams of all time. US Express was in CHAMPIONIP Pressing from Florida. Outside of WF, they also were in All Japan Pro Wrestling. They did a couple of runs in a w A for a little bit, so while it was a very short tandem, I do agree with you, doctor Trey,

49:49 that it's not a you. You don't really go back and you think about Barry Wyndham and Mike Rotunda in that tag team. I always think of Barry Windom and the four Horsemen. I always think of micro Tunda in as I R S. And then second to that is actually the Varsity Club marketing in w CW. So uh to me, I always remember the US Express. Actually, to me, their claim to fame as as a fan who did not really get a chance to watch them, you know, while they were performing, was that they had the original real American theme song for Hulk Cogan. So my my memory of them was that short, that that little short few they had with your Nikolay Volkov on the iron sheet. And outside of that, like I and I am a diehard wrestling fan, I really don't remember their time in a W A Georgia anything, just that short little window of WW, because I, like you said, I picture window with the Horsemen or even the West Texas Rednecks is Courreer Blackjacks, even yeah, I mean, I mean in micron, it's it's to me, it's I R S. It's the Varsity Club, It's all those things before the Express.

51:00 Though VK. Wall Street was that his name in WW or Michael wall Street or something like that. It was bald. He had bald, he would be a wall Street. And I think Vince try to sue him over that wall street. Yes, so there you go. The the latest inductees into the Dodey Hall of Fame Class twenty twenty four. There are some rumbor names to be included in this one. I believe Leamy Via the grandmother of the Rock who, if anybody watched Young Rock kind of got a revival. That was a very enjoyable character that was played on the Young Rock Show. She was a promoter down in Polynesian pro wrestling, and it is out there that the rumor right now, it's all unconfirmed that Bray Wyatt would be inducted into this WA Hall of Fame classitudenty twenty four, which if that is to take place, would make a ton of sense. With Mike Rotunda his father and Barry Wyndham his I believe uncle is Barry Wyndham. I believe they are.

51:55 I think Mike Rotunda married Barry Wyndham's sister. I think that's how it works out, so they're all family and that would make a ton of sense. I actually thought that bray White, if he was going in, would have been the first inductee announced. It's quite possibly maybe the last one, which would make a ton of sense as well, so I'm sure we'll get more inductees when we sit down and we talk about next week's stition. The SRTU some updates to the WRESTLEMANI forty card round up, so we have two new official matches to WrestleMania forty. It is official Roman Reigns in the Rock will be taken on Cody Rhodes and Seth Freakin Rollins at Wresselmania Night one. If Roads and Rollins win, then all members of the Bloodline will be barred from ringside during Rhodes's match with Roman Reigns on nine two. If Rains and Rock win the championship, then the championship match on Night two will be held under Bloodline rules. And then we also have Gunther versus Sammy Zain for the we Intercunalental Championship. That is now official as Sammy Zain won the Gauntlet match on Raw. That was very fun match to close out Raw. And then we have a semi official match as Damian priest Infant Balor will defend and the undisputed WA Tag Team Championship in a six pack ladder match. I believe three matches will be taking place on Monday's edition of Raw to qualify for that. So it's very well possible that maybe at least four out of six competitors or five out of six competitors will be announced by the time we sit down for next week's Just in the podcast. So about two and a half matches officially announced for wrestling as of this week. Doctor Trey. Yeah, I mean the

53:28 tag match with Roman and Rock and Seth and Cody's gonna be pretty cool, just converging of you know, wrestling timeline, so to speak, with the Rock being in the ring with Cody and with Seth and Roman being in there as well. It's gonna be interesting because arguably somebody is going to headline both Knights of WrestleMania. I mean, it could be Cody and Roman headlining both Knights, which would be interesting if that's throughout the Go Samy and Goother is interesting. I kind of kept thinking that WrestleMania might be when some he takes the belt off Goother and I don't know if Sammy's the right guy to do that, so that'll be interesting. And the six pack ladder match for the tag belts, I'm calling it right now. This is how we split the tag belts because one team's gonna grab the Red belt or one team's gonna grab the Blue Belts at the same time. And that's how we get different tag team champions, one for SmackDown and one for a Wrong. We have been calling for that for some time, Doctor Truck, Yeah, which I mean, I you know, we both love the Judgment Day, but I mean when you got if you have enough tag teams to do ten tag matches to get entered into this tournament, you should put the titles. I'm in favor of splitting the titles. I'm an agreement on that, so I would be totally fine if one team comes down with one title the other team comes down with the other. I think that'd be fun. Rumored expected matches, we saw a little bit of momentum forward in the LA nine and AJ Styles potential match with rust Many forty as AJ Styles had a promo on Friday SmackDown.

55:00 The j Uso Jimmy Uso match got a lot more momentum as jay Uso formally challenged Jimmy four match with Wrestminting forty. I would expect that match to be official on next week's edition of SRTU and then I don't know what they're going to do with the United States Championship right now. I almost feel like we maybe looking at a triple threat dotch tray with Logan, Paul, rand Yorton, Kevin Owens. I also maybe think that maybe it's a five pack match with or fatal five way with Grayson Waller and Austin Theory involved as well. So those were three things that I noticed from this past week of WWE programming in regards to the wrestlemaning card. Yeah, and then also on Jimmy Kimmel, Johnsena was on there after his Oscar's performance saying that East free WrestleMania weekend, so I wouldn't be surprised see Johnson to get shoved in there somewhere.

55:46 By the way. I don't know if you saw this back then, that pop up r KO with Kevin Owens and Randy Ortan, that's really really cool. But yeah, I'm with you, like, I'm like, I don't know, maybe it is a five way match because you want to get all these guys in the car. But then we also, you know, we're probably gonund have the hundred the Giant Battle Royal on some back down, which might pull Waller and Theory into that, and we just do Randy Kevin and Logan Paul. So that's it's gonna inter see how that plays out. And then I'm still interesting what they're gonna do with the whole NY at Jack's Live Morgan Factor with Becky Lynton Rea Ripley, because if we're getting a last woman's standing match on Raw this coming up Monday, that's still gonna play into this.

56:27 Because I don't know if you can leave those those two let Riha, I mean we Live and n I have been doing a really phenomenal job since the Rumble and even for NY even before the Rumble. I don't know if you can leave them out of the picture. Yeah, I know you were saying that early on. You were on that and I was not in favor of it. I would certainly believe the way that booking is going, creative is going that there is that possibility that door is potentially open for that. I wouldn't. I still am not in favor of the Ria Becky match becoming a fatal four way, but I can understand it making sense. I think the build of Live and Naya should be put towards maybe the Women's Battle Royal if they so choose that, I think, you know, use that fire for there and then coming out of wrestlem and he heading into backlash, and I think Early may use that momentum for maybe a fatal four way then between all four ladies. Yeah, I mean, I don't want the Ria Becky mash to be a four way, but just the Yeah, I don't want to say the writing's on the wall, but it does kind of make me nervous because I just, like we said with the last couple of weeks, I just don't want Ria Becky becoming what Becky and Ronda and then adding somebody else into the mix. You know what the taste it left in everybody's mouth.

57:38 We never got Becky and Ronda one on one, and we've only had Becky in Rio one on one once and that was like six seven years ago, so on television. Yeah, so I kind of want to leave Becky and Rio one on one, but I wouldn't be oh how about that? But the cashion is that Damien comes down to help Ria, death comes down to counter and then Damien cashes in on Seth during the Women's title match that would be that'd be creative, it would be different. But I think I I mean, I hear you on that one. I do think that we're gonna see cash in here very soon. That's where I think the potential of Drew McIntyre turning baby face potentially happens. I agree because I think the I think Seth is going to need time off. I think we all could agree that Seth needs the stuff for a little bit. Poor guys, basically, he's been the horse now that you've plowed the field with so many times that you may feel like you'd got to put him down almost at some point though at least Drew playing tween or if Damien cashes in on Drew that Drew consveror Damien and the fans will be behind him, you know, basically him getting screwed over again, so to speak. You know, there's a lot of people making a lot of stuff, and I think we talked about it even on the podcast that like Seth Ron's was looking like a bit player when he came to the Roman Rock Cody Road stuff. Do you feel that way now, because I think it makes sense as to why he was kind of just sitting in the background observing what was taking place and was perceived to be a bit player, but he was observed what was going on and was like, this is bullshit. Well, at first, he was the one guy that

59:09 didn't really have, you know, a reason to interject himself, you know, And I think that's why early on he felt like a bit player, because I mean, for most of us, we think back to WrestleMania, you know, a couple of two years ago, and it was Seth and Cody hated each other and there's still that mutual respect, but I don't like the guy approach to it. But we understand Cody and Roman. We understand Cody and Rock and Seth was kind of like the auxiliary piece. But storyline wise and what they've done with you know, the promos and the segments, it makes sense as to why he's interjected himself. I almost feel like after that Friday Night promo that Roman's almost like the ancillary piece in this whole thing because he's the one that's not doing a lot of talking. It's focused mostly on Seth, Cody and Rock lately. Yeah uh yeah, I don't know, you think it's just focusing on Seth, Cody Rock leaving Roman in the background. Now, Yeah, I think with Roman you don't have to do as much to build him into mesh because he's got three years of credibility.

1:00:15 So you've got to kind of focus on the animosity between the other three guys and to hype it up a little bit more. But you know, I think we'll see it more on this week's Friday, Like as we close Wrestlementia start seeing a little bit more of the Roman Rock interactions, because you know, for all intentsive purposes, I think we all know we're going to get Roman and Rock at some point, so you gotta start laying some some more groundwork for that as well. Yeah, I think Roman is coming off a little bit insecure, hence the reason why he wanted Rock to acknowledge him, and he doesn't feel like he's the alpha male. Ultimately, I feel like that's playing a role into it as well, like letting Rock talk on his behalf and stuff like that. So that's why I get really excited for Creative because you can kind of like look at all these different areas and you're like, I could see this happening. I could see that happen. I could see this happening and that's what makes it cool for wrestling fan. There is all these different alternate universes that are taking place right now and making it a very fun product. All Right. With that said, let's close up shop on this week's sition of srt Do you You could download the show every Thursday or Friday at reelgut Rated dot Com, Russell Chattnet on X and the Still Real the Show iTunes feed over on iTunes, don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us com the charts over there. You can follow us individual n X for myself at SRTU Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at The Doctor Trey. And of course don't forget to follow a show on X at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what is going on in the one for world of Doctor Trey Franklin this week? Well, like Jeff say, you can follow me on the X at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Facebook and Instagram Doctor Trey Franklin. When you're on Facebook, check

1:01:45 out Rocket City Championship Wrestling and Spartan Championship Wrestling, the two shows I work with here in Alabama. Closing All Star Wrestling Association as well as we are on the road to Wrestling Con seven. The official Wrestling Con seven flyer came out this week, a little bit of homage to the pandemic era flyer, a little with the Tampa Bay buccaneer style they did. We'll start getting official announcements for who's going to be on the card over the coming weeks. I do think it's a little bit of a homage to that Georgia Championship wrestlemer you're talking about it. I do believe there's'll be a couple guys from those Georgia Championship wrestling days that will be a part of Wrestling Con coming up this year. So May fifth with it, May thirteen, forty year, May eighteen.

1:02:30 I believe it is so. And honestly, Jeff, I don't know if I'm gonna be at Wrestling Con because of my potential surgery. I'm happy surgery. I'm happy. So you're looking for just that stone cold pop if you're there, I'm looking for the John Cena That's what I want. And doctor Trece just pointing to where he's getting surgery. Yeah, like seen it did with his uh pectoral I may be the first person to do a wrestling con on a Nie s coooter. But that might be that might be what I do. That would be a great addition to a gimmick right there, just just puttering around there. I want I need the Rascal's Grand Canyon. I need a Rascal. That would be great for the gimmick. Man, I'm down with that, even if you don't need it, do it anyway, all right, So there you go. There are all the great things going on in SRT. You support everything that is supporting us and everything that we support along the way. We will be back next week another week forward towards the march to the road to wrestle Mania forty Uh. It was just a great time right now professional wrestling, everything that's going on from AW andwe it's a very exciting time. And we enjoy and appreciate everybody for sticking with us here and downloading and listening each and every week as we go through all the great things that are going on in the world professional wrestling. So until next week. For doctor Troy Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. Thank you for downloading. This is this is still a real those show.