Everything We Missed During The Holidays | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #726 – 1/11/24

0:00 It's to welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's It's a Miss Real To show Episomber seven and twenty six for January eleven, twenty twenty four. Welcome to your everything we missed during the holiday programming schedule edition of s R to You, I am one after the show, I am Jackie Peck joined every single week my host on only Doctor Tray Franklin, Doctor Trey, How quickly did you realize last week's episode went to hell? Very quickly, my friend, Oh, very very very quickly. Not to mention, it doesn't even feel like we've been off that long, so like true, wait, we're back to life programming already, Like we're back to live, oh Braham, all right? And then as I tell you off the air, like I got the dogs are in bed with me, Sammy's in the other room snoring away.

1:03 I'm like, yeah, this this is back to It is no whole schedule, it's back to our routine though, so yeah, yeah. So let me preface this by saying, we are recording this a little bit earlier than we normally do this week because Doctor Trey's got some traveling and to do, and I've got some really terrible weather. So we're doing this before aw Dynamite, which probably means some of the things we talk about on this show we'll go to hell in a handbasket, like last week's show, Like when I sat down and I watched the Day one edition of RAW last week, which by the way, was a great episode of Raw. I'm watching it, Jenner Mahaal comes out and we'll talk about this in it in a little bit bit a little bit, but just to address last week show, because I saw one of our longtime listeners, Nate like tweeted at us like, so when did you guys record this? This meaning last week's episode, and I saw the Rock come out and then the Rock challenges Roman Reigns, and I'm like, oh fuck, Like this goes against our RUSS many of preview predictions all that stuff. I blame you. Yeah, it's my fault.

2:05 And that was definitely one major story. The other one is like where Mercedes Monette ends up and if she debuts this week, if she debuted last night on Dynamite, or if she's still not AW bound. So we're going to touch upon a lot of that stuff here on this week's edition of the show. But understand that, yes, we recorded a lot of our shows over the last three weeks, like a couple of weeks, a couple of days before Christmas. I want to say, maybe a week before Christmas. That way, Doctor Trey and I have all this time where you know, we're taking a little bit of a break. We did hop on during the middle of it, did the AW World's End preview prediction. We'll actually recap in review that very quickly here on this week's edition of the podcast. We both agreed, like, Nope, we're not going to do just a recap and review special of AW Worlds End last week because we didn't feel like there was anything really noteworthy to say. Spread that vacation, allow out a little bit more, and we'll cover it here all on this week'sition of the podcast.

3:05 So everything that we missed the last three weeks we covered here, and we begin with AW World's End Doctor Trey recap review. This took place back on December thirty from Nasau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale, Long Island, New York. I'm going to try to get through this pretty quickly, a little bit different than we have in the past. I'm gonna simply ask you, doctor Tray, if you've got anything you want to mention about the match, and we'll just keep it moving. Willow Nightingale defeats Chris Statlander. We did not predict that one any thoughts. No, we're good. Kill Switch wins a twenty man Battle Royal for a future AWT and T championhip match. I had j White, Doctor Trey, and Claudia Castid Noley. I guess my only point in this is I think after we recorded the preview special, they announced at the Continental Classic, guys, we're gonna be in like an all star match. So I was like, well, there goes that match. Yeah, not to mention you and I say here before like where is kill Switch?

3:57 Is he injured? Like we didn't know where he been, So it was kind of surprising not to not only see him hit it, but to actually win it as well. But hey, it worked out later in the STU which, by the way, he was selling an injury the concerto from Adam Copland, which I completely forgot about, which is more on Aw's part, like you got to show some you know, highlight packages of what's been going on the feud and cover the things that we may have forgotten. When you do that, hook defeats Wheeler n in an FTW rules match and retain the FTW Championship. We both had hook My only thing is instead of saying like what the FTW rules was, just say it's like no hold Bard's no hold Bard or street fight, Like what the hell is FTW rules? I had no idea. Do you now know what they are? Not? Really?

4:41 I think it's a no holds Bard match. Yeah, I still think you're gonna do FDS. Yeah. I think you just take the ropes off the ring and makes it more like a UFC side. That's what you mentioned during the preview show, right, Yeah, I think that would be a much more of an FTW like you know, buck the wrestling. Yeah, well it was fuck the wrestling, fuck the world. I think that's what it all meant for the win. Maybe maybe that's what Tas was thinking back in ninety eight. Were you surprised though, when you hear that Hooks wanting to go through Samoa Joe. I know there is some stuff that we'll cover about that in regards to some tweets that took place before we went on the air tonight. So I'm gonna hold off on that thought here momentarily. Next one is Brian Danielson, Claudia casting only, Daniel Garcia and Mark Bursk, Goodfeeding, Brody King, Jay Lethal Rouche and j Why in a Continental Classic All Star eight man tag match. I will want to cover this one.

5:32 We did not predict it. A very fun eight man tag match. I really liked the Continental Classic All Star match concept and hope they do it for years to come. Follow in the tournament, a good call with Daniel Garcia again the victory, and hopefully AW takes this win for him to build off of it. It appears they are doing that right now, at least in short term. But I really enjoyed this concept. Doctor Try. Yeah, I enjoyed the concept. I enjoyed the match. I do like it because it's it's Daniel Garcia maybe the epitome of stop and start booking. When you look at AW, because he's had pushes that was just stop and then pushed and stop and then it feels like they're giving him another one again now, so good for them. But the matches that was really really fun. I mean, we actually got a chancy, you know, Brian Danielson and J whis you get to see people from opposite leagues that don't get the phase of up during the Classic finally get a chance to do so in the Alltar Match.

6:24 Next match is Miro defeated Andred Aliedelo. I had Miro doctor Tred Andrede. Obviously, the big thing here is the rumors about Andrade. His contract is up with AW will cover him and his potential or his free agency later on the show. But I thought this was a solid match. CJ. Perry turned on androdd and to help her husband win. That appeared to be the way that they were sending Andrede out of AW. I hope Miro has a bigger focus in twenty twenty four, as he's a really fun wrestler to watch week to week. What's really cool about like covering this pay per view? Nearly two weeks later, they did nothing on programming to follow up after this nothing. Yeah, you at least want to say, like, you know, have Mirror come out and be like, you know, because of me, Andrade left the cup and let give him something and then there's just no payoff at all. So and not even a really great turn by c J. Perry, like it was almost like not even actually it was just like so non shalant and then whoop. See Like I'm like that wasn't even a great turn. So no, I was, But I'm a big Mirror fan. I hope they do both that. He's one of my favorite people in professional wrestling. Time with Tony Storm defeats Rio to retain the AW Women's World Championship. We both had time with Tony Storm. I just felt like Rio really never got going in this match. I felt like she was buying the eight all the entire time, and timeless Tony Storm pretty much dominated Doctor Try. Yeah, but at least she wasn't trying to conceal a weapon in her booty this time. True, that is true. Sur Strickland defeats Dustin Rhodes. We both had sort of Strickland. I think AW did the best they could with a really bad situation. Keith Lee was not cleared before the match. I hope twenty twenty four is a massive year for Swerve and this

7:58 just basically showed how fish you seek. Yeah, my only thing about this match was I think they gave it way too much time. Yeah, they did, they did. We haven't seen Dustin on TV. In like four months and you're gonna give him like a twenty five minute match. You could have given you more time to somebody else and just let Swear be dominant in this match, and that would still set up him and keep Lee down the road where cleared. I wonder if having a guy who's barely won on television take on a top star in a wrestling company and make him to bite Tony Kahn in the butt. Here later on the pod, stay tuned, Chris Jericho, Samy Gavar is Stinging Darby Allen, Ricky Stark's Big Big Bill Kenoski Takashkin Powerouse Hobbs in an eight man tag match. We both had Jericho Sammy Stinging Darby match fell off and never really got me into it. Gavar got the pen on Ricky Stark's That makes sense because they have the aw tag team title match. But how do you not give Sting the penn in potentially his farewell match in New York State? Because Govar is a pillar? I mean, it's true than so who does like? I guess it's just kind of way of cementing the baby face turns by Govar getting the pen and for us to try to forget that. You know, he's switched back and forth so many times this year is crazy. Yeah, yeah, I guess. Julie Hart defeats Avadan, retaining the AWTBS Championship in a house rules match. To me, this match didn't live up to expectations that I had for two up and comers in the women's division. There was some misspots Excalbert did a good

9:28 job trying to save it on commentary, and that I don't understand the creative direction of all of a sudden Skyblue aligning with Julie Hart, because prior to this she was it looked like she was gonna aligned with Julie Hart, but then missed her back and then that led to a trouble threat match with a TBS Championship with Chris Statlander, and then only like a couple of weeks later, Skyblue is then aligned with Julie Hart randomly like Okay, this is weird, this is aw creative in a nutshell dot to try this match felt like seeing a preview for a horror movie that you really kind of want to see, and then you watch you went, oh, man, I just I want that hour and a half of my life back, Like on paper, this should been a really fun match, and then it's kind of like if the Boogeyman wrestled an Undertaker, like you kind of want to see that happen, but if it ever happened, you've been like, yeah, that was just not good at all. Like there's just the it didn't mesh it didn't styles the mesh up, and then like you're right, like one week sky Blues trying to figure out if she's crazy or not, the next week they're together. Then the thunder Rosa gets involved at one point, but then we get this match and there's no funder Like it was just yeah, it's just all over the place. It makes sense a bed mesh. Well, Adam Copeland defeats Christian Cage and a no disqualification match to win the AWD and T Champion ToIP go with that, Adam Copeland getting the victory, fun and entertaining match. I really like how the final ten minutes of this match and what happened after the match with kill Switch attempting to cash in only for Christian Cage to demand kill Switch to give a title shot to him, leading to the next match, was really good creative booking, which then led us to Christian Cage defeed it out Copeland to win the AWT and T Championship. This match

11:03 played really well into the current direction. The Christian Cage character entertaining stuff again and I helpe the eventual turn of kill Switch on Christian Cage gets executed really well. You start, you're starting to see the fans get behind kill Switch Lucasaurus for that eventual turn. I mean they were basically cheering it on on last week's or two weeks editions now of aw Dynamite. Doctor Treyr thoughts on Copeland winning then losing, tell me it's a WW match that telling me it's a w W match like it started off kind of It was a very like it's very Randy Orton Adam Copeland as type match, like it starts off kind of slow, then picks up a little bit, and then the last ten minutes are just spot off fantastic. So, uh yeah, it was.

11:45 It was one of the best matches on the show, if not the best match on the show. The post matched up was great. My question is if kill Switch turns baby Face, does he keep the kill Switch name or does he go back to Lucasaurus. No, I think he goes back to Lucasaurus and didn't didn't Christian renate is are they calling christians finisher the un prettier or are they still calling it the kill switch. I think it's still going by the kill switch. I don't believe it's they're calling it on prettier in AW, so his finisher is the kill switch and then his protege is the kill switch. Okay, he just really loves kill switch engaged that That might be why I took away from this match the most. Yeah, I guess he does. I mean it's I mean, I'm prettier and kill switch are both not good names for a finisher in my opinion. Yeah, but though these are the kill switch, you can say, hey, flipped the switch whatever, you can do more with it. You can't really say, oh he made him unprettier. That just sounds Next match here is Eddie Kinkston defeating John Moxley to win the Championship Final for the AW Continental Classic for the inaugural Triple Crown Championship of the r H World Title, New Japan Strong open Weight Championship and the inaugural AW Continental Crown Championship. We both had Eddie Kinkson getting the victory. This is a physical, hard hitting and throw back Japanese match.

13:00 The finish came out of nowhere nowhere, which gave it real fight feel that you don't see too often in most matches, which was cool. The booking of Eddie Kinkson throughout the tournament was really was nearly perfect, from starting down two to coming back to win the whole thing by defeating both Brian Danielson and John Moxley and consecutive matches. This tournament really helped elevate Eddie Kinkson and I hope he continues for a strong twenty twenty four form. Doctor Try Yeah, I Eddie Keseyes. Of those guys that he's kind of I don't see he's the Kevin Owens of aw But when you look at and you're like, yeah, he looks like a good fighter but not a pro wrestler. But the dude can talk, the duke can work. He's got multiple styles you can go with and then once the yeah, when you put a guy in the ring with one of his best friends, they have a really damn good match. Usually so back to back best friend matches and argument, two best matches on the show, and then finally some Ojo defeats MJF to win the AW World champions We both had MJF and never felt like MJF had a chance against them Mojo during this match, as he's battling injury all throughout, injury all throughout, Somemojo is your new AW World Champion and did so in dominating fashion, ending the year long plus title reign of MGF. On a somewhat sour note, Adam Cole revealing he was a devil working alongside Roger Strong, Matt Tavin, Mike Bennett, and Wardlob to form Undisputed Kingdom, which is an awful name, was predictable but made the most sense. It was Adam Cole who convinced MGF too accept Someojo's offer in the first place and let him, losing the roh tag titles and eventually the AW World Championship. The angle works out well as I should give MGF some time off TV to recover from

14:31 injuries and allow the MGF fatigue to quiet down a bit to sell the angle. I am optimistic that this angle injects some new life into the MGF character in twenty twenty four, and that has me excited lots of different angles here, Doctor Trey. But's first off, Samojo is our new aw world champion. Yeah, and some of those things were like, if you had told me a year ago that out of all the people on the roster to take the bell from MGF, it be samo Joe, I probably said to you were nuts, because it wasn't that long ago. The guy was relegated just being a commentator. But four years ago he was stuck just being a commentator. WrestleMania thirty seven he did from Tampa. Yeah, and then now you're looking at him as being the focal player show. Now it's a great move in the sense of he looks like he's a legit badass, he's one of the nicest guys in wrestling, and the dude can talk. So it makes a lot of sense on those levels. But when you look at the roster of stars, you just jump Joe over everybody, which I'm four. I love Somemo Joe. I love seeing in this position. And plus it's gonna give us some great matchups down the line as well, So love the movie that ass. And then, plus, like you said, it felt like MJF never really had chance. I mean, the Dudegiti is like his The left side of his body is barely the left Yeah, left side of his body's barely working. And yet the guys out there, you know, wrestling tag matches, wrestling singles matches, trying to carry the company on his shoulders.

15:46 So give the guy some time off the heel and and and get better than when he comes back to the The pop that NBA will get when he comes back, especially if they if they time it right, is will probably be triple h massive, square guard esque when they pull that one off. See it's funny you said that because I was thinking the same thing, like of a return pop was very similar to that return. So pay perview prediction record I went eight and two. Doctor Trey went seven and three. We End twenty twenty three. I went one, thirty one forty seven. Doctor Trey went one, twenty one and fifty seven. Match of the night and event rating. I gave World's End at three point five. My match the night was Adam Copland Christian Cage. I was not a big fan of this pay per view Doctor Trey. Yeah, that's funny because we talked about off air about recapping and I'm like, yeah, nothing really eventful happened. So I was at a three point four. I felt it was eh, it was average at best. My match the Knight was edge was Adam Copley Christian Cage as well. So there you go, aw World Zen. I think before we get into some other stuff that we missed here, I guess a little bit more on the Undisputed Kingdom. The reveal of the Devil for Adam Cole, Like I said in my recap of the match, it was the most likely scenario, was the most predictable scenario. It didn't leave us feeling disappointed, but it also didn't leave me feeling good either. I don't know.

17:11 I don't know what would have saved this angle, quite honestly. I mean it's funny because after we recorded the preview bonus podcast we did, I just was like starting to think, I'm like, oh, man, I wish I picked Samoa Joe because the night before we did it, right after that Dynamite where it was revealed he was working with the Devil, and it was like, wait, it actually makes a ton of sense because Adam Cole was the one saying you know, you need to accept Samojo's offer. So it should not be a shock that he was revealed to be the devil because he was the one encouraging MJF to make the deal with Samoa Joe. Really predictable stuff, Doctor Trey. Again, I'm not disappointed. It's the safest bet, it makes the most sense. But I guess I had higher expectations hope for this angle. I didn't hate it, like as I lab with you, like it made the most sense. It wasn't sam In Callahan, which you know there were so many Look, I love David Callahan, but Callahan's not on the level of at him Cole right, So like there really wasn't. I mean, what would Dolph Zigler have made it better? Like would somebody else have made it better? I mean, Mustapha Ali's not gonna make the angle any better. You know, of all the free agents out there, none of those guys would have made this any better. Hadham call was the safe pick. And you know, you get to a lot of intriguing storylines coming out, like you know, you know you saw him on

18:41 Dynamite, you know, telling you some about Joe Hey when I'm better like Wardlow's coming after the aw title yet or next and when he gets in contention, Joe Hope is not you because I would have hurt a friend. But then Wardlow's going to forfeit the title to me, you know something that like now you're setting up you know, potentially Wardlow. When Joe and they ward Low and Adam Cole, then the ward Low face turned, you know, so you're setting stuff up for down the road if you follow through with it. Now, if you don't follow through that once again the angle falls flat on his face. But it makes a lot of sense as far as for Star Power stable group. I mean, hell, I'm pretty sure this has more longevity than the Firm or or the Pinnacle, you know, any of those groups that were around for like a month and then gone. So final way. I also don't like the name the Undisputed Kingdom because it's too much like the United Kingdom or and then you can't do a cool hand signal with the K like you can't do like it links with the Unisputed Air and you have the cool handsling, but it just feels like a rehash of NXT what they did there a little bit with the Undisputed airs like you, there's a lot of names out there you could have come up with that might have been better. But then again we have the Judgment Day. So there you go.

19:56 That is true, and we actually now love the Judgment Day and you kind of forget about the really bad name from time to time. But maybe that'll fallow the same thing. I just they already did Undisputed Elite right with the Undisputed Error when they came to aw and then you do it again where you combine the Kingdom and Undisputed Error Undisputed Elite to make Undisputed Kingdom. It's like like Judgment Day was not a great name, but this is like literally taking two random words and putting them together. I mean, it's it's a bizarre thing, but yeah, it was the safest bet, doctor Truit. Maybe maybe the hieh in is because Adam Cole lost to MJF in the United Kingdom and the I don't know, well, I mean you, I mean, the full history on it is that Adam Cole was in the Kingdom with Matt Tavin and Mike Bennett. Roger Strong was obviously in Undisputed era. So let's just take two stables. One of them being a WWE stable and use that name in AW and then you know Tony Cobbell then blast w W on Twitter like he's presently doing this past week. It's it's bizarre. It's not my favorite creative stuff that I've seen play out. Obviously, it's a safe bet. It makes sense. Does it excite me as a wrestling fan?

21:12 Though? No? So is what it is. I do like stables. So there's so many stables in AW that sometimes you just kind of go, wait, aren't they still in a group? Like I forget who has broken up and who hasn't broken up? Sometimes I'm like, wait, weren't they like what? Like you lose track? Sometimes I just think it would have it would have been creative if, let's say, just little small things like keep wardlow in the group, pair Adam Cole up with the returning Kyle O'Reilly, bring back Bobby Fish and pick God. I don't know who else has let's say Max Castor or something. Who was a guy's name the Ring of r TV Champion right now? Well he's in the He's in the Colls family.

22:00 Kyle Fletcher. Oh well, I thought dog Colls Faily is not really a family it's basically like there's two guys and then he hires a bunch of guys. No, no, no, they're I mean they're they're consistently a stable unless Sam mcvar returns from concussion. So anyway, like and then have where Taven, Mike Bennett, and Roger Strong are not in the group and Adam Coles revealed to the devil. The entire time they were pushing that MJF was a devil, and then they kind of become faces and feud with Adam Cole and his three people, and it's not so predictable. All of a sudden, Rogerck Strong and Tavin and Bennett they're really pushing the next Strong stuff. They're getting over with the fans and they see that MGF wasn't the devil that you know, they were the ones posting the signs all throughout, and they're like, wow, MGF was right, he wasn't the devil, and Adam Cole betrayed me. And Roger Trunk doesn't have to get off too far from his current character that was screaming Adam's name and all that stuff, and he'll get over with the fan base and you have a feud to have a little bit of a stop gap while MGF is back, and when mgeff returns, maybe he aligns with those guys. By the way, is Maria in the group She's she's not. And I just found out because I don't watch r OH. She's aligned with Cole Carter, who used to be two dimes in NXT before he got popped for like smoking weed or something, and Griff Garrison, who I guess are now a tag team in r o H, which was mind blowing to me because Griff Garrison took on Adam Coplan on Collision this past week And that's how I only found that out. Oh okay,

23:34 because yeah, there's a lot of shows I don't keep track of the secondary and third line, and I'm like, r OH, I don't watch. I can't do it. But I'm pretty sure at one point she was in all the vignettes with yeah and and and Tavin. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, did they fire her? I mean, I don't know if they actually wrote her off the storylines. I mean that's one of the things that's always a big issue with AW and she used to be the theme song and she would say like thy Kingdom Come and they would come out, you'd hear her voice and that would be on the graphic on the screen and all that stuff. But they like slowly faded her away and then had her pair up with two guys Griff Garrison, Cole Carter and Roh. I guess it does not make sense that thing, and that's just aw creative, like at least tie up loose ends, and that's what's really good about WI right now. So have some druthers here about the whole devil execution, but at the end of the day, I totally understand why they did it. Sticking with MJF. So the injury update on MJF. This comes to us from the January second edition of Wrestling Observer Radio and also comes to us via Wrestling Inc. Dave Meltz revealed that MGF is weighing all options when it comes to recovery from his torn labram. This includes either rehabbing the shoulder, which would allow him MJF to return to the ring sooner than expected, or opting for a surgical procedure, which is believed to be the best option given the severity to tear. It's unclear this time which direction MGF is leading in should MJFF opt for surgery, would likely meet an extended absence for the former AW World

25:07 champion's recovery time from torm Laydrum's post surgery is said to take about for four to six months, provided that there are no complications. This would keep MGF off TV until at least the early summer, which would mean he would miss at least AW Revolution in March, in AW Double or nothing in May, though it would put him in a position to work AW all in at Wembley Stadium in August. I'm not one to write off really good characters on television, but I actually think MGF being out for a while doctor Trey with an injury, should he do the surgery and be out for four to six months months is a really good thing because MGFF even pointing out in himself during the Players Forbune article that he wrote that I highly encourage everybody to check out that there started to feel like there was MGF fatigue going on with the AW crowds.

25:53 I mean he was not even popped, Like there was not a loud pop for him in Long Island, which was shocked. I think him going away and you earlier in the show compared it to the return of Triple H. I think him being away from injury is literally the best thing that could be for him right now in his character. Yeah. I mean, you look at WWE over the last decade, you know it's the biggest pops are the returns from people who've been gone for a long time, whether it's you know, I was off for you know, nine years somewhere else and just left wrestling or injured like we mentioned Triple H, Madison Square one, John Ceas return at the Rumple, the hardy boys at Wrestle Media, seem punks return. A lot of these returns are people just absence makes the heart grow fonder, and then also you do kind of get a little bit of shock value when they finally do returns, like, oh my god, I forgot how much I love this guy. And especially when you have such a subtle heel to Babyface turn like MJF did, where there are still fans that are not big MJF fans because of the fact that he was such a slam ball for so long and it wasn't just a blatant out of no where baby Face turned like we typically see or heel turn for that matter. So hey, if he goes away for a little while, I do think it comes back in the face. Hey, you may need to update the music a tad like keep the same little part, but you might make it a little more like I loose things altho sounds does he wanted to be jazzy? You want to jazz it up? Yeah? Yeah, spice it up a little bit, I guess, but a little saxophone, a little smooth jazz, a little smooth jazz, MJF. You know. But you know, you know,

27:29 even when Austin turned heel they tweaked his music a little bit. There's always little subtle tweaks you can make to kind of reepisode the poort, like hey, this is a good guy now, Oh is a bad guy now? But you know, taking some time off heel up. I just don't know. I don't if you know this. Do they add time on for injury like they do in WW if somebody's gone for six months? They do? Yeah, And I know there's a lot of stuff here. Are you going? The direction of his contract with AW right now? It would appear, according to reports that he was locked up by AW almost like six months ago because W resources have not spoken to him reportedly, and they all believe that he was signed when I think when he like it was sometime over the summer, they believe. Yeah, But then even then, like he's been playing it up on social media the whole he's still been playing it up a little bit. He's kind of walked back from that. I gotta be honest, he was really hypeing it up and now he's very much like I want to be the leader of aw Well, there you go, so at least that way. I mean, I still think like when he comes back, it's gonna be a huge megapop and then now you have your legitimate baby face star that you can build a whole copy around it out just build off a heel because now you can take Cole and the Kingdom and be that be your major heel faction and then you know you still got I'm still looking for it, like Joe and Brian, Joe and Moxley, Joe and Claudio, like there's a lot of other magics that we could have for the next six months to tie us over until the return of MJF. Yeah, I don't want to lose sight of this. And just because of the way that the show is going right now, there's a lot of stuff we have to cover.

28:56 I do want to mention that Samoa Joe is a world champion. A dominant world champion is really fun for television. I loved his runs in NXT and ROH in the early two thousands, so I'm excited for Joe. Plus getting Joe as a legitimate world championship run in one of the two biggest companies there is is good for the legacy of Joe. He has to become of those guys who's like, yeah, he was never the top guy. Now he has a chance to be the top guy for a while. To see how he handles the ball and runs with him. I think hardcore wrestling fans appreciate him, but I hope that this current run leads to more fans really appreciating how damn good Samoa Joe is. Especially like almost twenty twenty five years, he's gotten the game. I mean his runs in ROH, his time in NXT. I wish the WWI run was a lot better. There were times that was really really good and dominant. I think when he was US champion, obviously the run is NXC champion. He had some injury issues. He was a damn good commentator, but thank god he's no longer a commentator because we should be watching in the ring stell. But Samo Joe is one of the most underappreciated guys I feel like from the majority of wrestling fans, and hopefully that changes course now as he is AW World champion on a top tier United States wrestling organization. This story kind of started to take place Tuesday night, and here we are covering on the show. I don't even know if Doctor Trey knows about this, but Tony Khan has gotten back on the Twitter

30:32 x machine. Do you know about this, Doctor Trey? No? But is he becoming the Donald Trump of Twitter? Ooh, it's in there. It's definitely in there. This story comes to us from from Wrestling Inc. AW President Tony Khan has often said that he is a wrestling fan first and foremost, and that he approaches wrestling from a fan's perspective. CON's focus on win loss records apparently isn't limited to all Lead wrestling, as CON has been keeping tabs on the window losses of WE stars as well, including that a former w champion Gender Mahall, who will wrestle seth rollins for the World of Theweight Championship on next week's w w raw. Con posted on Twitter quote a double standard hook he does hook's handle twenty eight to one career record on winning street, calls out the champsamojoe a logical challenge, sparks online online online outrage Gender has literally lost every single match he's in for the past year. Immediately gets title shot. Where is the rage? Hashtag aw dynamite tomorrow on TBS, he tweets, not satisfied with just one outburst. Con then took his war against them hall to USA Network directly. USA Network tweeted, replying to Raj Gurie, who is a wrestling journalist, quote, what was the cage match rating? Tony Kahan responded, A morale victory for USA is one win more than their world title challenge or Gender Mahall has in the past three hundred and sixty four days, because it's been literally a full year since he won

32:05 a match. Con wrote, quote, tweeting a post from the night before in which the USA Network's official account made a joke about cage match, which is CON's often cited source for the quality of his programming. Quote, you really put Awn r place getting Gender Mahall in a big match on your TV show? Do it more often? CON's tweets to not go unnoticed. WWE broadcaster Corey Graves was quick to tweet support for gender Mahall. He tweeted gender Rules. Billy Ray reacted to Corey Graves's tweet with a pop. Dax Harwood seemingly fired back to Graves' tweet with a similar message, saying hook rules, hashtag aw dynamite, and then Gender Mahall responded to Tony Kahn's tweet, who TF For those who don't know what that means, the fuck is hook question mark and then in capital letters watch Monday Night Raw on at USA Network Monday, eight pm Eastern making fun of Tony Khan. Tony Khan has also gone off on Eric Bischoff, who responded to all these tweets of Tony Khan by putting a clown emoji. Tony Khan was like basically calling him out on stuff and the same old Tony Khan bs. Quite honestly, I saw this Doctor Trey like the tweet from USA Network is gold because they take a shot at

33:36 Tony Khan. Tony Khan has really thin skin, like really thin skin, And I know that this is going to come off like, well, he's defending his product, but how about you just don't respond at all, Like I don't care what his thoughts are on gender Mahal, Like I get it right, the gender mahal stuff, Like, yeah, he probably shouldn't be getting a role title match. Tony Khan is not wrong in that sense, but Dustin Rhodes should not be taken on one of your top stars Swarve Strickland to fill in for an injury replacement for over twenty five minutes or wherever the hell it was. I'll actually look it up at your pay per view, like it makes sense, but make it a squash match, like they should have ended it with the cement block and that was it. Like I know that there was a mention about well Abadon got a title match against Julia Hart, and Tony Kah came back and said, well, she won a fatal four way she was gone for a while. It's just so damn stupid.

34:36 Which, by the way, according to Wikipedia, the Swart Strickland Dustin Roads match went for nine minutes and thirty seconds. But I think the overall segment was well over fifteen to twenty minutes. Yeah, it was wayla And I know this is all breaking to you, doctor Trey, because it all took place literally hours before you and I sat down to do a podcast tonight. Yeah. I'm only laughing because in my head, I'm like, Okay, when Jinner won the world title a few years ago, you and I were both like, what the hell like? But Jender had a decent run. Wasn't the best roun in the world, but it wasn't bad. But he has also been injured for most of the last three hundred and sixty five days, so that's probably not why he hasn't really won a match in last three season five days because he was injured for most of that. But the guy does hold wins over shins k Nakamura and Randy Orans form a world champion.

35:29 Hook is twenty years old and beat Wheeler Yuda, so there is a difference in the credibility behind that. So is Tony con gonna say the miz who just won his first match in over a year two weeks ago because he hasn't won to match the years and deserving of a title shot, even though the guy's held every title in ww twice at least, Like wins and losses are great. If you're trying to build somebody but was already built, it doesn't matter anymore, you know. It's to me, like, that's the epitomy of like of your like you said, being thin skinned. And if if I had been gender Mahal, I would have been like, who or who tf is Hook send Vere like I would have played off that. But it's just it's mind boggling to me that the owner of a company is going to get mad that somebody else that get shot at his company because of that.

36:24 Like, it's just it's the whole thing to me is laughable at best, because I mean, as much as we love to kind of poke at gender, do you look at his credibility the guy, you know, it has been a credible as incredible history. He arguably is a borderline Hall of Famer based on his career in WWE. So and like I said, Hook is twenty years old and just beat Wheeler Yuda and his biggest win is probably over Jack Perry. Yeah. Yeah, I mean here's the thing, right, I'm strolling through Twitter as you talking Dustin Rhodes tweets out, guys with a bunch of dot dot dot dot dot, just enjoy wrestling. We love to do it for you. Light up on the tribalism as I keep stepping like USA Network. Yeah, they had a subtle tweet at Tony Kahan, but why respond right, like, why respond the whole thing? I actually like that genders get a title match. I'm not the biggest gender Mahaal fan of all time, obviously, but I like he was in the ring with the Rock a week ago. He's in the ring with a segment for Seth Ronds.

37:31 It makes sense the progression here, and I like that they didn't just completely bury gender Mahall with the segment with the Rock, which I think any wrestler would be, like, you're not being buried when you're in the ring with one of the biggest recognizable faces and entertainment in the United States and the world with one hundred and seventy one plus million views on social media. Because Wodo likes to trumpet that like crazy, you're in the ring with that, that isn't necessarily a burial. He almost gets rewarded by having a saying with Seth Ron's a week later and then gets rewarded again with having a match. I like that they're kind of, you know, rebooting gender a little bit here. Unless Jenner get squashed on this Monday's edition in RAW. I mean, this isn't happening at the Royal Rumble. It's happening on RAW. I like the progression here. I kind of dig the creative doctor Trey. Yeah, and once again, is anybody it's a main event on Monday Night Raw.

38:27 It's not the main event of a PL it's not the main event of Royal Rumble. It's the main event of a Monday Night Raw. And also their champion asked for the match, which is st storyline driven hook somemo. Joe didn't ask to Wressell hook hook what's going after the champ And that's kind of how you set up a storyline. And if he had just let it go and let it play it on TV the way that you're supposed to do it, people have been like, oh, this is kind of like Joe against Baby Task. I can get all with this, and there's a lot of similarities and that that way it would have worked. But to start taking shots at the other people's product because your feelings got hurt now diminishes what you're trying to do. Like I don't think w F now if Waba said, hey, the main event of the Royal Rumble is gonna be Seth Rawn's against Gender Mahal, yeah, there would have been an uproar. But to be the main event of a Monday Night Raw, I don't think the fans are expecting much of this, and this is probably setting up something else for Seth to do at the Rumble. So you let it go and you play off of it, and you're right, like Gender's not out there. It wasn't like Gender's out there with you know, random NXT call up. He's out there in the ring with the Rock. Then he's out there in the ring with Seth Rollins. That's how you've building credibility up. And then your announcers bringing the fact that hey, he's a former world champion who had a who has victories over Randy Orton and Schinz k Nakamora, who main event in Monday

39:57 Night Raw that night. That's how you build the credibility able to have to do win win loss records. It makes sense. The full thing is really silly. I mean, when I saw Hook challenging Samoa Joe. When I heard him say, like, I want to go for a title, I'm like, man, is he gona? They're going to go like the Orange Cassid route. And when they said I'm going to go for the world championship, I was like, ohh that's boy, that's bold. But it's the beginning of it. And I always kind of dig like I'm One of my favorite matches of all time is July eleventh, nineteen ninety four, the one two three Kid took on Brett Hart for the w WF Championship on Monday Night Raw, and he was a complete under underdog, and it's a phenomenal match, maybe one of the greatest matches in raw history. And I like that stuff, like if Samoa Joe is able to help put over Hook a little bit, then that's really good for his character. I mean, yeah, I did I have massive online outrage, but no whatsoever. I mean I was kind of like, wow, that's bold. I didn't see them going in that direction. Maybe Hook versus Eddie Kingston that would have been pretty cool, but they're going for the top dog. They're going for Coude gra and I just so creatively it works out well. I think to me the biggest thing is the creative of Ginger Mahal. Yes he has it one in a while, but on the short term it makes sense as to why seth Ron's whatever a problem with him challenging for the title. Blah blah blah. Aw creative most of the time is intermittent, discombobulated, not smooth. It's a pumpy road sometimes, And I think that's what Tony Kahan needs to be taking

41:27 a look at a little bit, because what WWE is doing creatively is working. What AW is doing creatively, quite frankly, is not. In all honesty and the Twitter stuff. It's a huge turnoff for me as a fan. Dout Trail. At the end of the day, like, I love the AW product. I will watch Dynamite, I watch Collision Rampage, I'll watch the pay per views. I'll continue to be a fan. But it's it's like it's like being a fan of a sports team. This like almost I guess you and I are both NFL fans, Niners fan, doctor Tream a Packers fan. This can be compared terrible to being like a fan of the Washington Commanders, the former Redskins when Dan Snyder was in charge, right, Like, you love your team. You're with them when they're good, you're with them when they're bad, you're with them when they're mediocre. But the person running the ship is a looney, batshit crazy asshole sometimes, Oh you're And that's what you guys have, that you're a Yankee fad you used to have. George Steinbrenner, That is true. That is the same thing as well. And it's like you love them when you're doing good and you dislike them when they're doing bad. That's how I kind of feel right now.

42:31 It's like I love aw but I just wish he stayed off a Twitter. I don't need him to like stoke the flames and in all honesty, like and I don't know if this is tongue in cheet, I don't know if they know one another, but I don't like that he's you know, pushing, you know, running Ginger's name down like that. And I don't like that Ginger's running Hook's name down like that. Like we don't need that shit unless they're dming one another and being like, hey man, just playing this up. This is just you know, work, working the fans and all that stuff, fine, but there's no need to like take a shot in a wrestler like gender from another company in my opinion. Yeah, and you know, I don't know if they know each other. I don't.

43:13 I don't think hook knows gender mahal. I don't think really gender is run in Tony Kahn circles. But at the end of the day, all you're doing is there's all saying like you don't you never bury your opponent. You kind of give them props. It is that way when you beat them, like you actually beat somebody. And if you bury your opponent and then you beat them, you didn't beat anybody. You beat a nobody. And that's one of the little takeaways from you know, pro wrestling, pro bo one oh one that I've always kind of you know, taken to with the in everyday life, like I'd never bury like in my line of work, like I'm competing against other products, I don't bury any other products. I always say, hey, these are good, these are good. Ours is just better, you know, because then if you choose us, you chose us because we're the best, not because everybody else sucks. It's the same thing here, I will say d also don't forget Seth Just Russell drewmackintire. He's now wrestling Gender Mahal. Both members are three mb both for WOR World champions.

44:07 This leads to return of Heaths later at the Royal Robe to challenge Seth Rawlins. Yeah, no, I hear you, I hear it's just uh got kids kids, he does. Yeah, wrestling Twitter is uh is going off right now? That's certainly what it is, and it's just kind of at the end of the day, it's dumb. It's all dumb, dumb, dumb um carrying on here from Gender Mahall back at the day one edition of Monday Night Raw the Rock returned, he called out Roman Reigns Doctor Trey. Uh, I gotta be honest with you. I watched it live, loved when the Rock came out. Immediately was like, Wow, where is this going? I hope this is not just a one time deal. And uh, I should have seen it coming. But I don't know about you.

44:52 I don't know if I was tired it was New Year's Day. I don't know if I was coming off of being up late to watch the ball drop for no fucking reason. I Uh, when he started saying should I want to go out and eat? Should I sit in a booth or sit at the bar? I was like, where the hell is he going? And then it like at that moment it clicked in. I was like, or should I sit at the head of the table, Like I popped for that one. It caught me off guard, which means I was off my a game, I think, unless maybe you were following it as well and you're like, is he going there? It caught me off guard, but I love it. We don't know when this match is going to be taking place. There's some thoughts that Perth Australia wants to Rocket elimination chamber. That doesn't necessarily mean he'll wrestle Roman Reigns an elimination chamber. We do know what Roman Rangs's match will beat the Royal Roombol, which we'll cover here momentarily in the direction there. But could we be getting Roman versus Rocket wrestle Mainey forty.

45:46 Nonetheless, it seems like here in the first quarter of twenty twenty four Dot Trey, not only do we get the Rocks in ring return, but it's going to be against Roman Reigns. It's just when and where do we think this match will happen. Yeah. So, by the way, this goes back to when we did our Bull like our WrestleMania preview prediction show, I took Rock and Roman off my car because of you, same saying I took it off because of me as well, So you're not alone. We're both in agreement on that one. It was all my fault because that was my pick for a while and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go with Jeff on this one and take it off the car. But like watching it, it was weird because the segment with gender was kind of done and then they were winding it down. I'm like, okay, this is where he gets some little jokes here and gets his little stuff in there. And then I was like, I'm gonna go out to eat. I'm like, is he about to make a Sea World joke about being the mammal with the largest penis or something. I was waiting. I didn't know where it was going, and then I caught I was like, oh, I see what he did there. I'm like, damn, they're lining up everybody to go after Rome. Because Punk called about a couple of weeks ago, you still got Cody fishing this story. Now I got the Rock in the bakes.

46:54 I'm like, this is gonna be a really really interesting Wrestle Maybius because you know, you go back, you know, it wasn't that long ago we did Rock and Sina and it was Rock defeating CM Punk, you know, right before Wrestle Media to be rub I think it was to become the world champion, to lead into that match with Sina. So it's like, wow, there's a lot of moving parts here. I'm just waiting for Punk to come out and start calling him Dwayne all the time again. All that fun stuff like this made Wrestle Media season way more interesting than already was, and it was already beginning to be a very very interesting Wrestle Media season. Yeah, because there's so many different directions right now. There's a lot of people gunning for the World Championship, both of them the world hey winning championship in the undisputed Universal Championship, and that's how it should be heading into the Royal Rumble. Like the amount of intrigued for this match. Drew McIntyre wants to shot, Cody Rhades wants to shot. He wants to finish his story, see him. Punk wants a shot, he wants to headline WrestleMania, and you've got the Rock looming, like, okay, so how is the Rock going to earn that championship match. My feeling and my thoughts are is that this is not gonna be some sort of segment where Rock is going to challenge Roman reigns to a match, Roman accepts it, and then we have the match at WrestleMania. I think Rock is wrestling an elimination chamber. I think the winner of the Royal Rumble will be the person who challenges for the will Avyweight Championship, and then that Universal title will be a shot will be on the line in an elimination chairer match, and I think the Rock wrestles in that elimination chamber match. I think we end up getting Rock and Roman for

48:27 Wrestling forty and I'm fine with that. I'm a fan of Cody Rhodes. I want to see him finish his story, but if it means that we take a little bit of a different, you know, half time break from that and do it save it for maybe a Summer Slam or maybe Wrestle eighty forty one. But as long as we eventually get there. I think Rock and Roman is the direction of what they need to do, and they need that for WRESTLINGA forty in my opinion. So you think it's Rock all, you think Rock's actually in the chamber match itself or one on one with the Rumble winner. You mean, do I think he wrestles the rumble winner? Well, no, I'm saying, like you said, the shot at the oversual titles on the line at Elimination Chamber, do you see it, because I I think that would be I think what they do is whoever wins the Rumble is the one who challenges for the World Heavyweight Championship, And I would say at Elimination Chamber, you have an elimination Chamber match and the winner of that is the one who gets the title shot for the Universal title at Wresselman forty, which they've done that type of booking in the past. Yeah.

49:34 My only thing with that is Rock's fifty, and that's not the easiest match to be in for the first especial for your first match back in Yeah. Ye. Now, I would not condone this because I'm not a fan of this. This is like brock Lesner type booking, and I think they used to do this with the Undertaker as well when he would be in elimination chamber matches. But you do have if you have the raw, come out last. Yeah, and he said there for five to ten minutes, which is not my favorite thing to do, but that could be a way they could protect him. So I I do like the WrestleMania idea. My other idea was like, you set this up to get the Summer Slam also, because there's nothing there. You can still do Rock and Johnstone against Solo at Roman.

50:14 I think that, but I think that they're you're saying that for WrestleMania. Well, no, no, not for media. I think you start settling in the groundwork for the magazine Rock and Roman. But I think they're doing it soon though I don't think you tease it. I don't think you tease it on January first, and don't do it at the Rumble or WrestleMania. I don't think you're setting it up for Summer Slam. I just I don't know. The part of me is just like I feel bad if it's not Cody and Roman at wrestle you know, like I hear you, I hear you, but that could add to it a little bit, right, that could add to the the story being written. Yeah, but then do you have Roman beat the Rock at WrestleMania? Hold on, let's let's just throw this out there. Does Cody need to beat Roman at WrestleMania for this story to and him to become world champion to be complete? Or can he do it a SummerSlam? No? I think he needs a I really think, especially after losing last year, I think he needs a wrestled Badia moment.

51:07 What's the what's the money maker? Is it Cody Roman? Like talk talk, as a as a wrestling fan and as someone that looks at it as a business. What is the money match? And what is the wrestling fan match? The wrestling fan match is Cody and Roman agreed? And then the money match though is rock and Rollman because you're gonna get all the eyes in the world. But then it's like, do you slide Cody into the seth of Rollins, seem Punks us and make it a triple for that match, because if you take Cody out of the Roman match, who who's another big heel? I mean, is it drew Back and Tire? Then you can slot him in with and that's still I could see that direction. I think Drew and Cody would be a lot of fun actually, and I thought that was a direction they were going to go once Drew started teasing being a heel and was like, it was because you know Cody that jay Usso was brought to Raw, like that would make sense. And they didn't do that right away, and I thought that was the direction. I think because he left. I think he like didn't help Cody out who was getting a beat down or something like that. He made the say for jay Uso and I was like, ooh, I think they're gonna go. And we talked about the podcast. It was like, I think they're gonna go Cody and Drew, and they didn't, which shocked me. And they may be saving that as a plan b if Rock was coming for Rustlemania to take on Roman.

52:23 Yeah, I think, and I think we talked about it back then that this may be laying that backup plan if they if they are able to get the Rock, because back then we were talking about I think they have them, yeah right, and then they kind of moved away from it. This is where I go back to we talked about it a few like a couple of months ago. Like I always buy into now the additional reports that come out, and then when they backpedal and we go, okay, they're backpedaling, they're not going to do this, and then the initial reports always comes true. It's like, Yeah, they talked about Rock and Rope at wrestled Madia fortyfi, and we talked about the show, like how cool would that be because it was the rumble in Philadelphia when they booed you know, Roman out of the building, the Rocks out there trying to save and the crowd was going DUTs. That was in Philadelphia, Like how cool would that be to come full circle that that's your big money batch in Philadelphia is Rock and Roman. And also all these reports came out that all they can't get Rock to create anything. The schedule's crazy, that the writer strikes over. If everybody's back to acting as our stuff, I'm just gonna start taking first sure thoughts when they come out, and that's where we're gonna go with them that one. So yeah, so I think the right time for the match Rock and Romans Russell Maani forty what do you say, Doctor Trey? Ultimately, yeah, I mean that's what they teased on the Young Rock It had to be a WrestleMania match, So yeah, I think I mean from a business standboy point to really awesome. If you really want to push some distance between

53:55 yourself and your number two, Yeah, you bring back arguably the big his name in wrestling to compete at wrestle Media against family as well. So there's so much intrigue. Oh my gosh, Jeff, we might be able to get the Rocks mob involved, like we talked about a couple of years ago. I did pitch that idea and Doctor Trey loveda So stay tuned. I will have a lot to talk about Rock and Roman here in the coming weeks. I do want to mention again the Rumble match right now. There's a lot of good booking going into that men's Rumble match right now that I'm really excited about. It's like a horse race of who wants a title shot, and that's how it should be really good creative booking right now. By w heading into that match, one of my favorites of the year, the Royal Rumble. Speaking of Roman reigns and the Royal Rumble, we has gone with a fatal four way match for Roman reigns his next big title match at the Rumble, He'll be taking on Randy Or and aj Styles and La Night.

54:47 The belief from at least me, I know we debated this just before the Holidays, was that I thought it was gonna be Roman, Rains and Randy Orn at the Rumble. Dave Meltzer had the following quote in regards to that, saying, the original idea was Roman and Randy Orton for the Rumble. Essentially, there were parties involved who did not want to beat Randy Orton this early and just felt that there's money to be made with Randy Orton Roman in a program at some point, but it's too soon to do it. Doctor Trey. I like that thinking, and it makes a ton of sense. I like that thinging too, because what that also creates is if your long term booking is you know, Rock and Rolling, Normania, Rock and Cody fishing the story and then you still got the Randy Orton stuff in there, that means Rock's not going I mean that means Roman's not going away anytime soon, which is always of our worries where it gets to Wrestle Badia season.

55:32 So because as long as Roman's on TV. It's entertaining and it keeps us intrigued. You know they're they're right, and it says like Orton has I mean, his pops have been massive since he came back, Like the crowd is really really loving the Brandy organ. I'm still wait to see how much more leverage I can give with AJ. Stuck is AJ coming back? AJ looks phenomenal, so like all these guys are coming back in the best shape of their careers. Plus La Night's still super over with the crowd, so it makes a lot of sense to get these building parts of it, because hey, do you set up La Knight and AJ for media? Is La not? You know, what are you doing with him? You start what you do with Aj. You had the stuff with the club asking AJ why they didn't mention it, like, you know, bring up to them that he was coming back. There's a lot of moving parts, which I love this right now, the way the book he's going. I don't know about you, but this it's attitude era, a top of the card esque.

56:25 No, I'm not saying as far as the writing and the adult stuff, but back in those days you could mix and match any top any of the six or eight top stars of the company to have compelling storylines breakout of it at any given moments. And that's kind of where I feel like right now, We're like it's super top heavy, but in a good way right now. In WWE, Yeah, I was thinking that the other night when I was watching Raw, actually, when they were promoting the Cody Road Chinsky Knackamor match. I'm like, the build for this TV feud and match, this payoff match has been great. It's been a lot of fun, and that's been a lot of their booking. They were running vignettes for SmackDown and like this Friday SmackDown Bianca bell Air versus Bailey, and I was like, that makes a ton of sense, and I like that, and that's what aw was doing at one point as well, and then they kind of got away from it. They seem to only do it with Dynamite for some reason, like have matches that make sense. The other shows are really much like Seat of your Pants, But the creative booking from w is like above and beyond what's going on in any other resting promotion. Right now, moving forward here, we just got a couple of things we want to quickly hit. Kevin Dunn retired from WE. He was the W Executive producer in chief of Global television Distribution. He was with the company for over thirty years. He started back in ninety three. He was fitzick Man's right hand man on the TV production side and responsible for a lot of famous shots that we've seen over the years. And you're starting to see changes in W's very subtle changes in w's TV production. This past Monday's edition of Raw. If anybody was watching closely,

57:59 I love the Tomasso Champa promo where he was walking out to the ring with Johnny Gargano going out for his match with Finn Baller. I thought that was great. There's these little subtle changes that we're seeing in their production and how they're taking the television element that I'm really digging right now. And it's a little bit different stuff we haven't seen in wrestling and is entertaining. It makes sense. So it's a big, big change here. Doctor Trey fitzig Man's former right hand man, Kevin Dunn, responsible for television ONWE Television for well over thirty plus years, no longer. The company's retired back on January one of this past year. Are you surprised he made it this long since after Vince left? That thought is that when Vince left, Kevin Dudd would leave shortly thereafter. Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of people we were shocked as well internally that he stayed with the company as long as he did.

58:50 Yeah. It we always kind of felt like it might be like a transitionary here. But I mean it's been almost a year and a half since Vince basically kind of left the company, So, I mean he was all also one of those lightning grads. When people wanted to criticize WW, they blamed Kevin Dunn for stuff. So but I mean for over thirty years, the guys, the television product has never wavered. We've never said production in ww's lacking. It's always been creative or something else. The TV shows have always looked great, The shots have always been great. He was really really good in his role of those things. He was just maybe a little too stubborn to change with things because some of the elements they're adding in or stuff that we've seen in other shows, whether it's TNAAW, they're adding in some elements that you know a little bit more behind the curtain type stuff that typically WW has never done unless it was a produced shot kind of like you know, backstage dollars like that. We've never really seen those pre entrance interviews like we've seen in other companies. So they're taking some modern elements and adding into their bag of tricks, which is something that Events Kevin Dunnshow probably would have never done. And the last thing I want to come here is our first edition of the twenty twenty four Free Agent Roundup. Or rumors that Andrade will be going to WWW that has not taken place yet as we record this.

1:00:06 Deanna Pirazzo goes from Impact Wrestling to AW. She debuted on last week's edition of AW. Dynamite. Mercedes mone is expected to land in AW. Maybe she debuted on Wednesdays edition of Dynamite, which has been rumored, but she was also rumored to debut the week prior. Naomi is expected to return to w WI Trendingyfa Twu from Impact Wrestling to WWW. Reportedly she will be in the Rubble Match it's looking like, and former NWA Women's World Champion Camill is expected to be in WWE NXT here soon, Doctor Trey. Those are our first little tidbits from the free agent roundup of a big year ahead in twenty twenty four. Yeah, do you know much about Camille Have you seen her before? I've not, it's been a little bit, but I know that she's a great worker. I think she did some stuff on AW television.

1:00:58 I think she actually defended the Champian Chip at a pay per view if I remember correctly. Yes, in the early in the early year the Daily plays, Yeah, she's she's a she's a really good worker. She looks like a million bucks, like she's like I remember how how how in in love you were with Charlotte and NXC Camills in that same kind of build motif of her, like, uh, but that's a great signing. Leanna Barazzo is gonna be an underrated signing for a W because she is a fantastic wrestler. Her work in TNA Impact was was, you know, phenomenal trinity. Coming back to W's gonna be interesting because I want to see if they if they actually mixed her into the bloodline stuff, because, uh, since they broke up the diad that whole thing, like Ave is now working with Sean Michaels, which is kind of odd, but it's giving her some more promo times.

1:01:50 So maybe they move they move Trinity over into the stuff with Jimmy and Jay when we get to Wrestle Media season, and that's a good tie in for that. So yeah. I mean, also, I've been I've been hearing some out Alex Hammerston's one of the guys we mentioned, you know previously, back in December. His MLW contract came up, and there are some rebelies that w's looking inside him and bring him into XC two. And that dude is one of those like just incredibly built pro wrestlers they use. Look at yo. Yeah, that guy's that guy is pro wrestling. I know he is due to take on Josh Alexander TNA Hard to Kill this weekend. Yeah, and you know how much I love Josh Alexanders. That's a huge fan. Really good So ago some of our twenty twenty four free agent round up. I'm sure there's gonna be more of this coming here. I expect some of those names like Andrade and Mercedes Monet to have a home somewhere by the end of this month. Maybe it will take place by the end of this week for all we know. But that is everything that we missed during the holidays. Before we close up shop on this week's sition of the podcast, let's get a couple of plugs and sponsors out of the way. You can download show every Thursday or Friday at Real got Radio dot com, Russell Chatnett on X the still realta show iTunes feed. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us comment charts on iTunes. You could follo us individually on X for myself at SRTU Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at The Doctor Trey. And of course don't forget to follow a show on X at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what's going on in the one for world of Doctor Trey Franklin this week? Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on Twitter at the Doctor Trey. Be sure check out my

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