CM Punk made his long-awaited return | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #697 – 6/22/23

0:00 It's stupid. Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition is so Real to show episode number six hundred ninety seven for June one, second, twenty forty three. Welcome, So there, this week's edition of ass Are Team are years. I am one after show, I am Jeff joined every single week my post one, Doctor Gray Franklin, Doctor Trey. CM punk is back.

0:41 My friend, he is. Um, I didn't hear that with him, So nobody's alway, Jef, were you at men? You're supposed to let me know that CM punks making a return. Yeah, I know it came out of nowhere. Um, I have no idea where he's been the last couple of months. It's it's been a big cloud of mystery. Like the last time we saw him, like he won the AW World Championship then I don't know, it just kind of poof, was gone right afterwards, like no no rhyme nor reason why he would be gone, Doctor Trey. So yeah, he just magically appeared. And I think he had a championship in a red bag on collision. I'm not too sure. So the CM stands for like Chicago magician m Maybe now you see me? Now you do maybe you just is wrestling in Chicago. Now, there's actually a guy in a NWA who's a friend of mine. His name is Magic Jake Doomas.

1:32 So if they go with the cmpunk of the Magician, right, I think Jake might get to have a little bit of gimmick infringement to go on there. But yeah, it's just it's so weird. This is this is what we talked about a few weeks ago when he was finally announced that he was going to be making his return in Chicago. Is how the crowd is going to react, how the roster was going to react. So you know, I'm still gathering my own feedback from people that were there and stuff. So it's pretty interesting to say the least. Yeah, well, we'll talk about the return of cmpunk the debut of Collision here momentarily. But first, just a couple of a housecleaning items here. If this sounds like it's slightly outdated, it is because Doctor try and I have recorded these in advance. I'm getting married this upcoming Saturday, and you know, Doctor Trey, it would not be a wedding or a big moment in somebody's life if there wasn't some sort of like weird, unnecessary stress. So I don't know what it's been like for you when you're heading into your weddings, and it's not like stress between myself and my future wife. It's more of like things that are outside of our control, or I guess we could have controlled. It is kind of unraveled a little bit, and throw in a little twist and turn going into the wedding itself. Have you ever experienced that or was everything smooth sailing for you? Before I tell my side of the story here. My first wedding, I had nothing to do with it. I was just basically just tell me when, tell me where I'll show up. So like with that

3:07 one, it was like the red contracted my father in law to kind of handle the videography stuff, and then I didn't check out the venue and we actually the building that we did it in they actually had like giant church pews that so instead of walking down the middle, you had to walk around the side to come back up to the stage, so that was awkward. Flowers didn't show up on time, so there's a few hiccups. The first one, second one, I took over and just basically kind of set everything up like I'm the one that found the venue. I'm the one that found uh you know, the minister, I'm the one that booked the reception area kind of coordinate. So I just kind of took over because I just get tired of indecisiveness. Just pick something and run with it. Yeah, yeah, I guess for me, my story would be similar to that of Flowers not arriving, but a bigger deal. So this past weekend, we're going through like where we had a bunch of this stuff that we have for our wedding piled into this little like container that we have, and I take out my wedding band. So the wedding band that we purchased, we purchased them back in January, so like five months, six months before the actual wedding, just to kind of get it over with and just you know, one least thing to check off. And we're not having a huge wedding, very very small, intimate wedding, just with our immediate families. And I go to

4:41 put it on and it doesn't fit all of a sudden. So I have lost about twenty pounds since the wedding planning began, got down to a very healthy normal weight happy with all that, feel much better healthwise, and I guess I was carrying weight my fingers, Doctor Trey because the wedding band I put on no longer fits. And it's like, I mean, if I put my hand down in the ground right right, like pointing my fingers towards to the ground, would it fall off. No, but it's it's not the right fits. So decide that day that we're going to run over to where we purchased our rings, and we called an advance, said what was going on. They said, we typically don't do this, but being that you guys haven't gotten married yet, it's totally fine. Come on down.

5:35 Will hold a half size and a full size for you. So go there. I show them the wedding band that I have had at the time, and they were like, oh, yeah, no, that that doesn't fit. I try on the next half size. There's no quarter sizes, and that one comes off a little bit easy as well, so they're like, wow, you got to go full size. So I put the full size on and I didn't know this as a married man, maybe I guess you can support this. But as I'm taking the ring off, like I'm wiggling it off my finger so I can can take it off, and they're like, that's how it's supposed to be. And I'm thinking myself, like, well, when I did this back in January, I don't remember it, like wiggling off my finger like this, So I think the entire time I had the wrong size. And this was with a jeweler who was like helping us out. So I'm like, yeah, okay, so full size this is it. And they proceed to tell us, well, we don't have your ring in stock, so it's like, oh crap. So then we had to order the next ring up and we're putting a bar in it.

6:45 I learned a lot about jewelry all of a sudden, a bar in it so that it fits my finger and the bars in there in the event that, you know, the older I get, the more weight eye gain again, I guess. And if I have to take the bar out at any moment getting married on this upcoming Saturday, when will the wedding band be available Friday? So it's like you have got to be shitting me, so kind of important. There is a backup plan if God forbid it's not ready, can just go with one of those you know, silicone rings, and it will make a good story. But it was again very small wedding that we're having. Took a lot care of a lot of things in the beginning.

7:25 Don't want a lot of boogie things in general. And here we are in that final week and uh yeah, presently as we record the show, I do not have a wedding band ready to go for my wedding on Saturday. It's it's really you mentioned that because I just had that talk with my wife because I had ordered I have my original wedding ring, but I ordered a backup one just to where to work and things like that, a little small, you know, cheaper band, but just that way that you know if I lose it. It's not a huge law, but just something. And I think you and I met for the first time face to face like two thousand and ten, I think it was I think it was nine. I was rough. I was a pretty big guy back then. I was probably about around like two sixty five to seventy. I just waited in today at one eighty five. The lightest, the lightest I have ever been like since probably like sixth grade. So I have always had the same ring size.

8:24 I've always been at ten. Uh. So I ordered the ring. It comes in, I'm looking at it's the same size as my other ring. I'm like, all right, this looks this looks okay. And so like last night Father's Day, I threw it on just to kind of see how it fit and everything else like that. I'm like, this thing's pretty loose. And I started like snapping my hand back and forth and like like you're drying you like you're air drying your hands after your wed, you know, and it's shifting and I'm like, I did not know that your hands could really lose weight. So I was so when you're telling me the story, I'm like, I know exactly what you're talking about. Luckily for me, I got him. I could think I have these rings off like some wish dot com type site. So there's only five bucks out the window. But I'm like, crap, if I lose anymore white, I'm have to go back in and resize the actual wedding ring. And I really don't want to deal with it because I'm I'm at the point now like I don't like going places if I can't just order it and tell somebody what I need done.

9:20 I really don't want to deal with it. Like the only place I like going a person is to my watch guy. So if I need to like take a link out or you know, get a bat or something like that, Like my watch guys pretty good. But jewelers and everything's like that. Like I just I really hate going in there, so I try to avoid it at all cause but in your situation, you really don't have an option. Let's you just do a bread tie around your finger, you know, or something like that for the wedding. True true. And the thing is, it was like late on Saturday on the weekend and I was like, man, last thing I really want to do, because it's like maybe forty fifty minute drive for us to go to where we bought our rings. I was like, oh my god. This is like, first off, it's it's not planned. I'm highly frustrated this has happened. And you know, like the thought was, well, I'll just go there and pick up the half size. I'm sure that'll fit. And it's like, thank god I went because it didn't. And if we did that then we would be back at square one and have to go make another trip. So less than twenty four hours away from being married this upcoming weekend, I will have to pick up my ring. If there is a god's chance at all that it's done earlier, that would be great. But here we are very very small wedding yet final week. Obviously everything is not perfect, so it is what it is. If anybody has similar stories like that with their weddings, feel free to chime in at SRTU podcast on Twitter or even Facebook dot com slash So Real to Us show. I figured I would start with that this week, a little bit of relatable stuff for those they listen to the pod that are

10:50 married, have gone through the wedding process, and as doctor Trey said, with his first wedding, most guys it's like I don't care, Like, let's just you know, wherever you want to do it. That's kind of been mymo and I wanted to get a lot of things done early. And I guess that kind of bit me in the ass because by dropping like fifteen to twenty pounds, now I have to get a whole full size different ring. So guys learn from both Doctor tryan I hear similar stories. You lose weight, that's great your health here. However, things that typically would fit and I'm not talking about like pants, but like wedding bands may not fit again. So if you don't want to lose the weight, tell your significant other like, wow, you know, you know this ring won't fit and you have to buy me another one if you're pushing me to lose some weight.

11:33 But there you go, wedding talk here on this week's edition of SRTU. If that didn't think, I would leave with that, but I figured, oh, okay, it's a nice story, or not a nice story, but relatable, you know, crazy story heading into you know, one of the biggest days of our lives. So that's where we are, folks. Things that have gone on for a long time. Not talking about my wedding planning, but was one cmpunk. As we mentioned the start of the show, he's been away for nine to ten months. We have not seen him since the all out press conference which then led into brawl out. He has disappeared off AW television, was not mentioned on AW television up until maybe three weeks ago. Four weeks ago. There's been a cloud of secrecy in regards to his status. There's been reports that there's been no movement, There's been talks, reports of potential buyouts, talks of meetings with Chris Jericho, talks of lawyers saying they can't talk to one another, and that all came to a head and ended once cult of personality came across the speakers of the United Center for the debut edition of AW Collision, which we'll get to here momentarily as well. But prior to all that, doctor Trey Cmpunk tells teld his side of the story somewhat to ESPN having to sit down every when I say that, somewhat because I guess legally he cannot mention the elite Kenny Omegan

13:05 the Young Bucks by name. However, he did talk about Hangman Adam Page, spoke about their issues what took place, mentioned that he was very pissed off heading into that press conference, which was shocking here because of one his injury and two nothing had been done between he and the elite after times where he had said he made attempts for it to be resolved. That to me was like obviously a shot at at Tony Kahn and the leadership of AW. Then he gets in the ring, cuts his promo, I would say, alludes to the Young Bucks because he called them counterfeit Bucks during his promo said that our favorite wrestlers are soft. It was a tweener heelish promo. Despite being cheered in Chicago, there were some booze for seampunk in Chicago. I would say it was probably ninety ten maybe eighty twenty at best eighty and ninety percent for cheers, ten to twenty percent for booze. But the long awaited return for CM punkin if he would return to AW took place this past Saturday night. He entered the ring, he had his first match Doctor Trey.

14:15 Your thoughts and everything that led up to this, the ESPN story and then the debut the next night during the redbut the next night at AW Collision see and this is where we kind of, you know, try to figure out what's going on the inner workings of AW, because in my head, you would have a PR person, a public relationship person who would kind of go, hey, uh, was it what he's one Big or big Big Bill Phil or whether whether one he said he was one Bill Phil One Bill Phil, Like, Hey, maybe going out and doing this interview with ESPNS and kind of yeah, let's let's talk about the show. Let's not talk about everything, like you know, keep it kind of focused on what's coming up, not what happened that where a good pr person comes in. So but then knowing that was that really just a work I mean, is that maybe maybe they really have made up and it's it's this is all just us them working us or something. So it was definitely here's start of reading those comments heading into collision. Um, music hits crowd rough. I mean, like you said, there was a there's a small percentage of people that you know are unhappy with them, and we talked about that that there's gonna be some elite die hard that you know just hate them punk but for the most part, it's just good to have him back. And then it was kind of a tweener ish promo, maybe a just angry, baby faced type promo.

15:41 Uh, this kind of depends on where you where you followed, but um, it's just weird, just like I get it. It's the biggest story in wrestling, the brawl out stuff. But you know, it's kind of like, all right, we don't need to keep airing air in the laundry on TV for everybody, Like let's leave it backstage and hey, if you guys got to come to blows again, you come to blows again. I just I'm almost talked out of this until we get to Omega versus Kenny Orr against the you know, against the elite. I'm just kind of out on it right now. Yeah. I mean, for me one, let me preface this by saying, I'm I'm a big seampunk fan. I'm happy that he's back in AW as well. I think the part where we obviously agree on this is I'm I'm done talking about this. I read the interview Friday's interview from ESPN, and on Thursday that reports out there from Fight Full PW Inside or what have you had reports that this interview made the rounds backstage at AW Dynamite this past Wednesday. The crews knew about it. There were some comments that were made about potential quotes that were being used and what have you, and people were like rolling their eyes about it or waiting for it.

17:00 So it gained a lot of momentum over less than twenty four hour period. Story drops and it's just like clarity from punk side for the most part. The part where it was like, oh God, why are we going down this road is where he starts taking shots at Hangman out on page. I mean, if it doesn't unless this leads towards something as you said, doctory in the ring, it like, this is just so damning. If we go two years from now and these paths never cross and they never ever figure out how to make this work to make some money, then this is just a total black eye and a missopportunity for all Elite wrestling. And then from a leadership perspective, looks really really bad to me where they legitimately cannot have seam Punk's camp and the Elites camp on the same show. There are reports out there as we record this, it's it's before this week's edition of aw Dynamite that there's reports out there that Punk be on AW Dynamite this Wednesday, while the Elite will not be, and the Elite have already filmed their stuff for this week's edition the show. So it's like, Okay, this is strange. I just thought that was unnecessary going down that rabbit hole again with the hangman out of Page seeing Punk stuff. We heard it during the press press conference, and we heard it again. Obviously, always appreciate his honesty.

18:25 You know, he talked about what was bubbling up and boiling over that there were no issues about it. He seems to think that they were the ones that were leaking information to the dirt sheets. They deny that it's the same song and dance we talked about nine to ten months ago. I get that there's legal reasons involved, and I don't know where the legal reasons stem from. I don't know if this is aw making legal reasons. I don't know if it's is the elite putting out the legal reasons like keep him away from me. I don't know if it's punks people, though if you were the interview, it would seemed that it's not punks people that are legally saying dun't go and talk to them. But the best course of action in here would be to get all these parties involved in a room and hash this out once and for all, because from a behind the scenes drama perspective, it's ridiculously stupid. From a product content perspective, is this leads to no feuds ever in the history of aw between these two groups, these two factions, these multiple people, then it really makes no sense at all. The part of me still thinks that this is an angle and we're keeping being kept left in the dark a little bit about obviously that they did resolve issues. I don't think he gets away with that counterfeit bucks comment one Bill Phil stuff.

19:44 If this wasn't potentially going to be an angle soon, it would be in the best enstance of all Elite Wrestling. If it wasn't angle soon, and they kind of it could be one of their best story lines ever if it does lead to a feud between c Himpunk and FTR and the Elite. With that said, the promo was very heelish. I'm under the belief Doctor Trey that CM Punk is coming back as a tweener and we don't know if he will be a baby face or if he'll be a heel. But he said he's not going to be taking any more lies, He's not gonna be telling anymore. He's gonna he tells no lies, and that he is no longer no more nice guy Phil Brooks. So um, I dig it. When Punk is pissed off, when he has a chip on his shoulder, when he's got an attitude, I think he's at his best. He looked decent in the ring on Saturday night for the first time coming back in nine to ten months. In an actual televised match. So I just hope this all works up for all EAT Wrestling in the end, because if it doesn't, and if this trend continues for the next three to six months, it's just gonna look so silly for me from a fan to a leadership perspective and now wrestling, Yeah, I mean, there have been many times the history of wrestling where two people or group of people just absolutely despised each other and then came together for the good of the show or the good of the brand,

21:15 or oh bottom line, the good of their wallet, you know, the good of their paychecks. And this is one of those situations, like this is the most captivating thing aw's had that they can kind of feed off of in quite some time, if ever, And you're right, if six months from now, we're still not there, And this is with Punk working on Dynamite, and that just means that the elite will probably end up working over you know, on collision. To not have these people path or cross these paths crossed, it is just ludicrous. So I'm kind of under the feeling just like you said that, like you know, they've kind of hashed some stuff out because you don't get away with that line. And then the retort was, yeah, this was like twenty nineteen, we'd have a shirt up on BWT right away with counterfeit bucks. You know, you don't get away with that, you don't poke the bear and not cause issues. But you know, if this is, if the reality is it's all a work, I mean, it's all a shoots and both camps don't like each other.

22:21 It kind of feels like Tony Kahn's like the step mom in between a husband and wife who broke up and the stepmom's got to help, you know, figure out how to get the kids around and stuff like that. Like he's kind of playing both sides of a little bit. So it's just interesting the dynamic of how all of this is playing out right now. Yeah, again, like if this from a storyline standpoint, if this leads to a storyline, it makes ton of sense. If if it does not lead to a storyline, then again you come into question Tony Khn's leadership as the head of a w event. It's like, this was just really bizarre. So we hope the biggest benefit is the fan base, us the wrestling fans with see him punk back in the fold at aw That is obviously one big benefit.

23:04 The second benefit would be, let's see this play out on wrestling television. Let's have some really intense promos, Let's have some great matches, Let's have a great feud, and let's help elevate all elite wrestling in the summer months, because this could really do it. Let's, you know, tell me that you worked us. You worked us for the last couple of months. The brawl out was weird, was real, but you know, you worked us the last couple of months. They resolved issues, the brand splits and you know, two different groups, and then Punk needs to be here while the elite's over there. And then when the Elite comes over to Collision, Punk needs to be on Dynamite. They can't be in the same room together. Was all just for not and just for show and tell and to make us believe into this feud a little bit more. So. That's the hope that for me as a wrestling fan, this is why Sean and Brett was so good at ninety seven. We want to see this play out on our television screens for the benefit of the wrestling fan base, rather than it just being this weird, awkward drama that just takes place behind the scenes from time to time. So see him. Punk is back. He redbuted re returned during AW Collision, which made its debut episode this past Saturday night, Doctor Trey. We have a new announced team for All Elite Wrestling, with Kevin Kelly and Nigel McGuinness leading the charge. A very surprising to see Kevin Kelly working for All Elite Wrestling after being with New Japan's English commentary team for so long. Nigel's been under contract with AW now for some time working on the ROH brand. I've been a big fan of Nigel for some time. I thought W has misused him the last like two three years he was under contract

24:36 with that company. Happy to see him back out there. Obviously. Loved the throwback logo to Monday Nitro. The set was very, very visually cool. I mean, the best set that they've ever done for the television program. I felt like was a Collision set. Loved the theme song with Saturday Nights meant for fighting with Elton John That was really cool. Other than that, it felt like a normal AW show. Happy to see Merrow back. Happened to see Andrew al eat a low back excited to see some wrestlers get an opportunity to really showcase their skills because they don't get the time on Dynamite each week. So excited for all that. As I've said before, it's like another wrestling show, but when I get into the aw fan base, it's like, Okay, this could be really cool for the company. Hopefully it doesn't feel like just a Dynamite show moving forward. It has its own different look and feel, which it does presently. I thought for episode number one there were some hiccups, Kevin Kelly, Nigel McInnis getting their feet underneath them, especially Kevin Kelly working with a new promotion that he has not worked with before. So overall, I thought it was a great up debut episode for All Wrestling. Collision Doctor try Yeah, you know, I can't.

25:45 I can't dispute that at all. Like to me, it's kind of you know, it was. It was solid. You know, it has its moments where I was like, oh, that's really good, and had their moments from like and and not so much. But you know, once again, this is still you know, a three almost four year old company that still has hiccups on their main show. And now you're kind of maybe splitting the production staff and you're doubling up on either on either on the production STAPs, either getting doubled up on the workload or they hired a brand new staff to come in and kind of help run the other show. So with those things being said, you know, you're gonna have hiccups, You're gonna have missteps, things like that, but overall, very very quality show, and it takes a while. Like even it with SmackDown debut, it felt like a blue Monday Night Raw. It took a little while for that show to finance voice, and I expect Collision to kind of go down the same road.

26:37 There's still some reports reports out that are right now that there's going to be like some sort of roster split. I don't know if it's going to be an actual, like draft roster split. There's you know, but probably as I'm saying this, they've already announced it for Dynamite because we're recording before Dynamite. I know they have copyrighted the phrase transferportal, So something is probably up here. We just don't necessarily know what. But if it gives wrestlers who weren't being showcased on Dynamite and Opportunity those that we want to see more of Ricky Stark's Amro Andrade, Alidlo, Powerhouse, Hobbs, Wardlow, Lucasaurus, whoever. I'm here for it because there are times and I enjoy Dynamite, Don't get me wrong, but there are times that we see the same wrestlers each and every week performing on Dynamite. I love Orange Cassidy, He's like the opening match nearly every week. I love Swort Strickland, He's on that show a lot, Jungle Boys on there, a lot, Hooks on there, a lot. I mean, I just would love an opportunity to see more folks get an opportunity to perform. And I think this is exciting for all elite wrestling. And we'll see where Collision goes as we move forward.

27:42 Switching over to World Wrestling Entertainment, Doctor Trade. This past Friday on SmackDown, Jay Usso has officially turned his back on the Bloodline. He has sided with his brother Jimmy Uso and that has ignited a bloodline civil war that will pursueably main event Money the Bank in a couple of weeks. A tag team match solo in Roman taken on the USO's You know, I've really enjoyed this storyline, but I just felt like, of all the things that we've ever seen in this storyline, from Sammy turning his back on the Bloodline at the Royal Rumble, from Jimmy Usso turning his back on the Bloodline at Night of Champions, to Jay Usso turning his back at SmackDown, I've said the last couple of weeks that I think Jay Uso is the most compelling and relatable wrestling character in all of professional wrestling right now. I think the fans have this really cool, emotional, deep tie to him right now based on the way that he's been built up the last three years. And I felt like that his execution of turning his back on the Bloodline was the least surprising and the least impactful. Shockingly enough, I thought it was a good build up towards it and a nice swerve, but I felt like Sammy, Zane and jim usus was bigger and better than Jay's the guy that I really enjoy watching just as much. Yeah, and my only issue if it is I don't want to say they kind of I mean, you just had Sammy turn six

29:17 months ago, then Jimmy just turned a couple of weeks ago, you know, and then this one, like I felt like, I don't want to say they did it too quickly. I would have liked to see that Jay's turn be a little bit bigger and a little bit more drawn out. But you know, especially when he's backstage telling you, O, hey, once I'm in, you know, once I'm in charge, haim in your out, that kind of gave away the ending and it would you know, I was like, oh, well, Jimmy didn't think you're the right leader. Oh well, you know, God forbid your brother have a differentiating opinion at the time. So it was so good and and I to me, supertickting your own little brothers even a bigger thing than superticking to your cousin. But you I just kind of wish did Jimmy turny had played out, because in a way, it took Jimmy being the first guy to state up to Roman to being the last guy to realize what a jerky was. It just it seemed a little bit like it could have been drawn out just a little bit more. I guess see, that's a great point that you made there where it was like Jay was the last one to realize it and he was like the first one that fought it, which maybe it that's the point of the storyline. I think the direction I would have liked to see is play this out a little bit more. I know, wrestling wrestling promotions, hay when fans do this, but I'm going to do it anyway. Fantasy booking, I would have done Roman versus Jimmy us for Money the Bank and have like, maybe Jay work as a special guest referee, or he is the undecided party sitting in ringside and he makes still you know, Roman still wins.

30:52 Roman does it by doing the guillotine choke that we haven't seen him do in a while, chokes out Jimmy and and Jay is still very torn. And it goes on way past the bell and Jay treys to break it up a little bit and you can see that he's torn. It's his brother, it's his cousin, it's the bloodline. Play it out a little bit, and then dragged the tag team match itself heading into SummerSlam. I think that the match for Money the Bank I felt like would have been better for maybe SummerSlam and you have a little bit more of a longer build towards this. You know, jbing torn which way does he go? Which way does he go? Because it did feel very fast. I mean Night of Champions happened what three to four weeks ago, and here we are three four weeks later and they've you know, both turned their backs now on the Bloodline. And it took Sammy to turn his back, it took Jimmy to turn his back for Jay to finally wake up. As you perfectly put into place, I think I think I would have let this play out a little bit more, Doctor Trey. Yeah, I mean that was my thought process as well. And you know it's almost like if I get them doing the tag match right now, fairly Sammy's still upset about the Bloodline breaking up, but yeah, to me, like, if you you have to get like the way they played out either makes Jay look dumb or it makes Jimmy's turn look not as good because you want of those faces. I mean, if they came back intod Jay Roman and Solo against Jimmy, Kevin and Sammy, I think the fans

32:24 were then on board of that. And then once again then you got Jimmy and Sammy pleading with Jay to see the lights and maybe that would works as well. My question then becomes, if you do the tag match? Now, do you do Jay and Roman at Summer Slam? And is that really a Summer Slam main event? Despite the great build of the single on how much we appreciate what Jay USO's doing. Does you know if you were buying the pay per view and that was your main event? Was somebody buy that pay per view that doesn't hasn't maybe watched the entire storyline. That's true, You're gonna hit we for do this, and we may have to add it towards a list of things that may be banned here. But I'm wondering if things were rushed a little bit because they have a bigger name set to take on Roman Reigns for Summer Slam. It's possible. Do you know what name I'm going to allude to? Does he does he use a lot of initials?

33:21 Does he use a lot of initials? Move? No? Maybe not? Okay, I was going with Randy, with Randy order no, no, no, I'm thinking in the family, keeping in the family, that the Rock hasn't come in and settled the feud yes, I have been obviously at nausea and pushing this for I don't know, two years now, because you know, when you think about it, like SummerSlam twenty twenty two to Royal Rumble, you could see the slow build of Sammy starting to turn away from the bloodline. That was about eight weeks from WrestleMania thirty nine to Night of Champions was another like six to eight weeks where Jimmy and Jay were really pushed. You know, they were not having the tag team title match, they were getting you know, yelled at by Roman and all this stuff heading into that turn this turn again, and I think you said it perfectly.

34:19 It was like a three week turnaround for Jay and I'm like, man, this is not something they've been doing this for storyline. Everything's been a slow burn and it just makes you wonder and I'm going to say the Rock, but you know, doctor Trey said, maybe Randy Oran, But I mean maybe they have just a bigger name set for Roman reigns. And they're kind of shotgun in this a little bit because this storyline has been so perfect and it's been nothing but slow burns that this just and maybe w crative would make the case, like, well, the slowburn has been for three years with ju so since this started. But nonetheless I just felt like, I don't know, just feels like it feels like something's missing, Like I don't know, I just feel like it's it's really quick. Yeah, I agree, So, I don't know. Maybe the USO's turned towards their most electrifying cousin and we get Roman and Rock. It's it's interesting. It's interesting. I think I would have done Jimmy versus Roman for for Money in the Bank with the title online and continue to play this a little bit more with Jay Uso, so we'll see. It was still great pop cool moment. I love the usos, love the bloodline, love the bloodline storyline. Um, it's been great. Is there any part of you, doctor Trede, that's like kind of upset that we're seeing this stable fall apart. I mean, this was your altogether your SRT Wrestler of the Year for for twenty twenty two.

35:40 Yeah, it's it's weird in the sense of seeing it Corona, but what we've seen it with other some of the other great Stables degeneration acts, you know, the Ministry, your Ministry, corporate ministry things like that, we've seen him. You know, they rise and they fall. Um. But it's it's just I suppose you were like, I hope you have something on the back end of this, you know, kind of in place, like, hey, we're gonna run this storyline coming out of Summer's Lam with you know, something like this would be to keep it compelling, because it's been musty TV for the better part of you know, a little over a year now with the Bloodline and the inner workings and everything else. It was funny because I like, we go back to shoot seven years ago when the when the first in the Bloodline name was first mentioned on TV, and I remember sitting here watching you we actually had a group of Athens Pro Wrestling called the Bloodline and similar family tree to look to it everything else, I'm like, yeah, but just to kind of see this whole thing play out has been great television. I just hope you have something on the back end kind of already in place where hey, when this kind of rolls the way and shuts down, we're kicking this storyline and it should be compelling TV as well.

36:51 So keep me keeping an eye on this storyline heading into money in the Bank just a couple of weeks away. We'll preven predict money in the Bank on next week's edition of SRT. You. Speaking of previewing predictions, we will preview predict all Elite Wrestling and New Japan Pro Wrestling presents fourbidd Indoor two this Sunday from the Scotia Bank Arena in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Full disclosure again, there are four matches that have been announced by the time we're recording this podcast. I'm sure more match has been announced on aw Dynamite. Possibly they've been announced on social media by the time that you're listening to this podcast. Obviously, in a couple of weeks, when we recap and review this show, we will go through everything here. But we only have four matches that we can actually predict heading into Four Bidden Door right now, Ray, So let's get to the first one. Kenny Omega defends the IWGP United States Championship against Will Osprey. I'll start here. I think this is Will Osprey's opportunity to win the championship and get the victory over Kenny Omega. On I believe last week's show, I thought that they were they already done a trio of matches. This would be match number two coming off of Wrestling Kingdom and the rumors that they'll have their third match at all In in Wembley Stadium in the UK. So for this one, I think Will Osprey wins. It's tied one one and you have that third match at all In in Wembley Stadium, So I think Will Osprey leaves with the IWGP United States Championship. No, and I'm with you. I think this is Osprey's Shay has to really shine on American TV. We've seen glimpses of it, but big stage.

38:22 Plus you know we saw Forbidden mcdoor one. It can be at all aw sweep, it can't be a New Japan Sweeps. So we gotta go a little bit back and forth here, So I'll take Osprey getting the win as well. Next match here is one of the dream matches that I've been looking forward to for some time. It's Bryan Danielson taking on Kaza Chica Okada Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? This one a little trickier for me, so I'm leaning Brian Danielson just because once again is a even though it's co promoted, it's still basically an aw event, So I will take Danielson getting the win over Okada. I'm gonna take Okada getting the victory over Danielson, and it's because Okada, I don't he hasn't been book great.

39:07 When he's on an all elite wrestling programming, he typically takes the l which is surprising. He tries to go for the Rainmaker about thirteen hundred times and they reverse it every single time. So I'm gonna go with Okada getting the victory over Danielson and really really really looking forward to this one on Sunday evenings as these two go at it. Next match here is Sonata to defending the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship against Jungle Boy Jack Perry. I have been very critical of Jungle Boy Jack Perry for some time. This is not the man that I thought should get this IWGP World Heavyweight Championship match. I have been a big fan of Sonata for a long time. I'm happy that he's gotten an opportunity to become the world champion over New Japan. Right now, with that said, I think Sonata gets the victory. You have hook in the corner of Jungle Boy. I think a Jungle Boy and Hook feud. We'll be taking us into the summer. I just think a heel turn is coming for Jack Perry, so I'm going to take Snata to retain if Jungle Boy.

40:07 I thought about this watching Collision. If Jungle Boy turns heels, is he in a back with pushing page and Lucha stores. That would be weird, right, But I guess it's possible. I mean, he was wearing the black leather jacket, and I'm like, well, I mean, Lucha's wearing all black and Cage wears all black. Maybe it makes sense. But you know, with this match, I really like Sonata. I've been hard on Jungle Boy for a while as well. I'm gonna take Sanata getting to win just because it feels i mean, on paper, you're looking all these other great matches and these rumored matches and everything else, and I'm like, this one just kind of seems out of place, Like it's not really like I wouldn't put Jungle Boy on my top eight challengers in the world, so I don't, even though he just had telling me had a match for its and it just feels like, well, the crowd is really no Sanada, but they know Jungle Boys. Let's put them in there together. Yeah.

40:54 I think this is one of those cases where Tony Khan and AW Creative love Jungle Boy. I mean they may not actually be listening to the fans right now by pushing him in this match, or it's they are listening to the fans and they're ready to turn him hell coming out of this one. I agree with you. I just I didn't think he should be the challenger for the IWGP worldI Wing Championship. But we're here, we are here, we are folks. And then finally, the only other match now it is MJF defending the AW World Championship against Hiroshi Tanahashi. As MJF has said in the past, he does not want to wrestle at Forbidden Door. He said in his promo that he will not be participating in this match. Nonetheless, I feel like the Russling fan and real life MJFF is absolutely loving that he's going to be in a match with Hiroshi Tanahashi. Should be a fun one, Doctor Trey, Who do you like this one? MJF or Hiroshi Tanahashi?

41:44 Uh? This is kind of me. I feel like Tanahashi takes a lot of defeats like you're basually like Okata, I just kind of like Tanahashi. He's one of those guys that makes the AWA guys look good and then you know, loses in the end. So I'm taking MJF once again just because I don't think, Yeah, I just don't see any title belts really moving, you know, in the single division on the show. So I'm gonna take MJF retaining the aw World title. Yeah, I can't see Hiroshi Tanahashi being the one to dethrow an MGF turn this title reign, So I'm gonna take MJF getting the victory as well, and I think it's gonna be a very fun match to watch. So four matches that have only been announce so far for Forbidden Door. As Doctor Trey and I record this week's edition the podcast, we will recap and review Forbidden Door in two weeks once I get back from all the wedding festivities. But never fear, everything that we're gonna be doing over the next couple of weeks will still be regular programming for all of you, maybe slightly outdated, which we'll talk about that schedule momentarily.

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