CM Punk is back, so now what? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #695 – 6/8/23

0:00 It's stud Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition The Store Waldo Show Episodember six hundred ninety five for June eight, two twenty three. Welcome to this week's edition of The ass Are two for you. I am one after show. I am jack Back. Do you mind every single week in my coast, the one only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. Are you a dynamite or collision person? My friend, I am more of an impact. Uh, guy, I get, I don't know, you're not raw? Yeah, I mean every every every wrestling show has to sound like a car crash or some kind of sodomization type thing. I would you know. I had a question for you. I was gonna ask you because I was worried about you today. Okay, are you walking around with your respirator on in Connecticut today? So yeah, for those not in the United States, I guess let's peel back to the current here. So wildfires from Canada. Hope everybody that is a Canadian listener of SRT is doing all right. The smoke is making its way down to where I live here in the Northeast. And as I turn around and I look outside my window, from the room that I'm

1:30 recording in my office. It is hazy. It is like dark. It's it's like the sky looks the way it does just before a thunderstorm in the summertime. But it's been that way for over twenty four plus hours, and when you go outside, it just smells like you're walking into one big camp fire. So no respirator. However, it did not take the dog out for a long walk. Don't want her to get all messed up, and have refrained from going out so much because as I look on my phone and this is like, I guess nerdy here stuff. But um a QI is the way that we measure like air quality. The air quality index a qui UM over three hundred is considered hazardous. Presently, where I live is three sixty four. So that is one of the most highly polluted air quality areas in the world today. I think it's number one, is the area that I live in, Doctor try. I mean, I'm watching the news, and you know, of course they don't put guys in Connecticut. They put people in the Bronx. And in Manhattan, it's just Manhattan's just New York and they're showing it and everything and we like our our weatherman down here in Alabama locally is kind of like a legend. Like the dudes are fans.

2:58 Maybe the best weatherman I've ever seen in my life when it comes to reports and and uh actually seemed like he cares about the people. And he was like, we are actually going to get some of that stuff in Huntsville over the weekend. And I'm like, I don't even know if Huntsville knows. Were like Canada is like it's crazy, it's a whole other world. But that you're just seeing the reports and the Yankees game getting canceled and everything else because we are quality. I'm like, well, uh, we beat India at something, I guess, So there you go, we did it. High fives all around. Doctor. They actually canceled a sports game that was taking place indoors though w NBA at w NBA game, it's like in Barclays in Brooklyn. Now granted the people have to travel to get there canceled, so it's it's crazy. And like inside my place, inside my fiance's workplace as well, like even though we're inside, you can faintly smell smoke.

3:53 It's it's bananas, it's um you know what, but at this point, fuck it, right, I mean, if we went through a global pandemic, I mean, what's this to me at this point? Right? I mean, I mean everybody's got masked later around, although they're not quality of Oh that's just probably the question. What draws better in the Northeast a w NBA game or a GCW show. Probably GCW show. Yeah, so they're they're protecting the eighty five people that were going to go out to the Liberty Game to night. Yeah. Probably. I mean w W NBA is going doing well. I mean, I guess I probably shouldn't have said that, But GCW I think would be more popular. I don't know. We actually we'll find out they're actually coming back to Alabama here next But we just had a AW Life show. I was just gonna say, AW was in town.

4:41 Weren't they. Yeah. I did not go because I have a job on. Like a lot of the people in Alabama, I couldn't make it. But I do know h Conrad's Thompson's part time. I know Conrad was there. I know that his UH co host on all of his shows, Cassie Okay, was there. So I know quite a few people that went to the show. Tony Kahn was there from reports I got, but I was not there, so once again, not a special invite. I can't even get on AW presents Ring of Honor, So I'm a little disappoint what's the What are you hearing from people? Like? Do they enjoy the show? Yeah? They said the show is good, A lot of it. I mean they, I mean Darby was there. I don't remember. Jeff Jarrett was there like some other people. It was not the top top guys, but and I don't mean FTR, I mean like legitimately like the main event guys, but you know, the upper mid card guys show is pretty good. They also had some of their younger talents on the show, so some matches were not so good but didn't draw fantastic, but didn't drop bad.

5:49 Like it was about nine hundred thirteen hundred people from from what I read, so better than us at Rockets City, but not quite to what WW typically draws when they come to Huntsville. Yeah, weird times for AW right now. Obviously, a couple of weeks ago we talked about the attendance from AW double or nothing. There's reports that some of the shows for the upcoming Canada Swing the debut in Canada like that, they've only sold seven hundred tickets, which is mind boggling. Like I know, AW creatively hasn't been hitting on all cylinders lately, but I wouldn't have figured that seven hundred people would just be buying tickets right now for one of the Canada shows. So hopefully that improves. Which kind of go ahead, doctor try as I'll say, I mean, once the game Canada is on fire? True, so true, maybe they end up canceling that for all we know? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, so getting right into AW with that said, somebody that could help those ticket sales, but I guess he hasn't because those are collision shows. Is one cmpunk We talked about it towards the end of the show last week. It kind of gets stuffed to weigh with everything that was going on with or nothing, NXC Battleground and Night of Champions. But okay, here we are now, Dot Trey, We've got a full slate of hat. We've had some time to really think about this, and we got to ask ourselves what is next for cmpunk in AW? Is it heal?

7:15 Is it Babyface? What does his first feud. Looks like there's reports out there right now that the plan tentatively could be that his first match, which by the time everybody listens to this will have bell already been announced. We're recording it before Dynamite this week, is or excusing the main event for Collision, which I assume has cmpunk in it. But there's reports out the right now that it would be Cumpunk and FTR feeding with Bullet Club Gold for a little bit, Jay White, Juice Robinson, and there's supposed to be wrestlers that will be added to Bullet Club Gold soon. I want to be shocked that maybe we get a turn of a Ricky Starks, maybe he sides with Juice and Jay White in this feud with FTR. What are your thoughts, Doctor Trey? What what's next? We've we've got the word out Sumpunk is coming back. What does he come back as a heel? A baby face?

8:07 Who does he feud with? What's the direction of punk over these next several weeks as he makes his return back in a professional wrest and after brawl out. So I mean to me, I think since it's gonna be Collision and it's gonna be in Chicago. He asked to kind of come back as a baby face. I think though, as collision progresses and he sees they see what the crowd responses in other areas, that that may change. But you know, there there is quite a lot of fans that still love Cumpunk, And you know, we talked to going back to the brawl out everything else. Like I found logic, and I didn't hate what he said. I hated how he said it and presented it, but there's a lot of truth in that. I think the older generation probably you know, goes along with that. So I'm to me, you know, you bring back in his baby faces, see what the crowd does. I mean, the two money matches to me are going to be to get him and Omega and him and Jericho. So and I know reportedly him and Jericho have patched things up or at least come to a mutual understanding, but hey, get him back in the ring, get him back out there with FTR, let him do like, let him help elevate j White, because I think Jay White's been struggling in aw UM and then you know, move on to Jericho and then build up to get to Omega at some point, but it is ironic that if they do. From Punk and FTR, I mean that's that was the six man match where he fracture his ankle in so kind of weird that they're

9:39 going right back into the sixth man thing. But those are his guys, those are those are the guys that buy in and you want us surround yourself with people that you trust. So it makes a lot of sense in that way. So kind of jumping forward here in regards to Cehimfunk return to AW to me this these next three months from the moment he returned Earns too, once we get a clear picture of his direction for all in at Wembley Stadium in London and all out in Chicago is going to be the most telling of where things take themselves going forward. I would think that if I'm Tony Con, if I'm aw, if I want to get the most bang for my buck for CM Punk's return in the next three months, Doctor Trey, the seeds have to be planted, the build needs to start happening, then the matches need to be announced. That it is either he, as you pointed out, takes on Kenny Omega in a feud and in a match, or it's he an FTR taking on the Bucks and Omega. That is the money.

10:46 But if that doesn't happen, this to me just screams like, Okay, if this isn't happening now, it will never happen, And what the hell is the environment of aw right now? This to me is a very crucial time, Like if we don't get that elite Punk feud nearly immediately upon his return, then we're never going to have it, Doctor Troy. Yeah, and you said all outs in Chicago. I believe it is. I would imagine, So I'll double check that just to make sure. Because for me, like I look at like, Okay, if I'm trying to fill Wembley Stadium up and I need I need a marketing matchup, you can do Punk and Jericho Wembley Stadium and those diehard fans are income and then that also draws the casual fans in because hell, that's a WrestleMania rematch in Wembley Stadium.

11:37 There you get all out. It's like, yeah, Omega and Punk would be great. But here's the thing. This is where the egos get involved. Punk is not going to get booed in Chicago against Kenny Omega and Omega and the Bucks are baby faces right now? Could they switch? Because if we just did a whole don callis they we just did like we just reunited the elite? Do you flip them because going into Chicago, you know Punk's not going to get food? Or do you treat it like Bret Hart in Canada when he's a heel? But then do you then make Punk a heel heading into all Out? And if you don't pull the trigger now, by the time you do get ready to pull the trigger, is there still going to be enough fervor and interest in that match to really capitalize on it.

12:22 So it's really they've kind of I don't they booked themselves in the corner, But you know, you're right, it's really interesting to see what they do with Punk to have his return in Chicago and All Out in Chicago, because you really he's not going to be a heel in those two places. So do you just do the Bret Heart approach or do you just run with it let him be a baby face? It's basically what they do with MGF right in Long Island and everywhere else is the Bret Heart approach. And in ninety seven for Canada. Yeah, it's it's really telling right now, because I think once he returns, you're going to see what the atmosphere, what the playing field is for AW, at least in the short term, which has potential effects for the long term, because if Punk is creatively kept away from the elite, then that to me again screams well one or both parties never want to work with one another ever again, or ever in general, because I don't work all them ever working with one another, and the good for the company of controversy creates cash is not happening. I guess there's always a case that maybe six months, nine months, twelve months from now, that maybe they feud, but at that point I feel like the ship would have been sailed, right. I Mean, the reason why Bret and Shawn worked is because despite all the backstage crap in ninety seven and ninety six, they were still working with one other in feuds and in the ring, and

13:52 they were taking shots that were very, very telling in the ring on the microphone like this. To me, this is a game saving moment for AW. Doctor Tree. I mean, this is what wrestling fans want to see. People love drama. There's a reason why a lot of reality shows are very popular nowadays is because of the drama. There is some real life drama behind all this, and the best way to capitalize is to make money off of it and feud Like I remember when Steve Austin came back in two thousand and two after he left the company, took his ball and went home, maybe it was oh three, and he started feuding with Eric Bischoff, and because prior to all that, it was like, well, we heard the stories. He was given the FedEx package or FedEx envelope and was fired, and then WWE capitalized on it. Eric Bischoff himself just tummy to we is it's his line, right, Controversy creates cash. He came WWE, and that's something we never thought would happen, and there was some really good business made because of it. And there was a lot of drama, real life trauma that brought itself into the into the creative of WWE, and everybody worked themselves into what was best for business for lack of better terms, So I don't know, man, I just feel like if if they don't capitalize on this in the next three months, I just don't see it ever happening, and if it does happen, it's not going to be the same buzz that

15:26 it once was. So this is very telling talented for awn C and Punk Doctor. Try. Yeah, I mean the way of my mind works. I'm like, you know, if I was given the opportunity to present this and they say, hey, we can't do it right now, but let's build towards all in or you know, double or nothing, We're going to build towards that, and I have a nine month build, I'm like, all right, cool. That gives me the ability to kind of figure out who Tony who wants to be the baby face, who he wants to be a heel And you can start planning seeds earlier, you know, and do a little bit of that long term story telling that you know we love WW with to get to that point, because then you can circle back to all this stuff and people like God, this is you can build the anticipation to get to it. You know, if you do it early, it's still going to do gangbusters. But you know, there is a way to do it long term where it works. But right now, like I said, if you have both these, you know, with the elite being baby phases and Punk and FDRB and baby phases to then try to shotgun it. You know it's gonna lose part of its luster. So there are ways of doing it long term where it still works, but you actually helps set start planning the seed right now. And I would really love them for them to do a draft and literally have Punk and Omega drafting sides, because that could really leap to it as well. If you did a long term version, well, that takes us into our next story here, which I don't think that they've done a draft that's played out on television. I think there's a draft that is played out behind the scenes based on clicks, friendliness, who likes

17:00 who. So there's a lot of discussion right now whether or not AW is going to conduct a brand split with the addition of Saturday Night Collision coming to our airwaves in ten days less than ten days now on June the seventeenth. I'm in favor of the brand splint, Doctor Trey. I feel like there's been a lot of wrestlers that have fallen to the wayside that I would love to see on television. Each week we keep seeing the same wrestlers. Whether I really enjoy watch him on television like a Orange Cassidy and a sort of Stricklin or sometimes I just don't get it with like a guy such as Jungle Boy, and other stars aren't being pushed along that where they should be.

17:45 You know, there's been a lot of storylines that have just kind of fallen off, a lot of momentum that has been derailed. You mentioned Jay White. I could not agree more. To me, he's one of the hottest free agents to hit the market and sometime comes to aw and he's been floundering a little bit. I mean, I like him being paired with Ricky Starks, but a j White to me, and I don't I get that. This isn't with every Rustling fan because they don't watch New Japan is a upper mid card slash main event talent. So I'm in favor of the brand split, dynamite collision, whatever you want to call it. But should they do it, Doctor Trey? Ultimately, should they do it is backstage politics.

18:27 The reason why they should do it is having way too many wrestlers on your roster and not showcasing them why they should do it, or should they not do it at all? And just get it all together create you know, backstage PC wise, create a peaceful atmosphere and also creatively better utilize their talent each and every week. See like so in twelve years here in the show, like, I've always been a proponent of the brand splits when it comes like WW because when you have eighty guy is on your main roster, you're always going to focus on the people that you know draw and you're less likely to take risks to build up talent. So but on that side, there was always the buckstops with one guy. And I know that's been said on eight of you, but in reality right now it feels like the roster's naturally torn in half. So isn't the right thing to do, I think for the good of the company to actually get more TV time for some guys that maybe are underutilized, like we talked about. Yeah, it's great. The reasoning though if it is legitimately like I can't work with them, I can't work with him. I want to be on this show, I want to be on that show, is not because once again it creates that whole the wrestlers are running the asylums, you know, mentality, and then what if you're a guy that is neutral and you get drafted to Collision and all of a sudden, Kenny's calling you be like, Hey, did you tell Tony you wanted to be there because you don't like me? Like? It kind of creates a a ground for egos to be hurt. If somebody's like,

20:03 nah, man, Don'ty just put me there? Oh? I don't know. I kind of heard that you said something to TK about you know, you want to be on that show and not my show. It does create that as well. So I think, like I said, for the prosperity of the company and the prosperity some under ULI's talent Brandsplo's great, But for the reasoning to do it, maybe not so much. That's a trade. This is like a weird look for aw right, Like that, there's so much hinging on perceived backstage politics right now. I mean, for all we know, we could be sitting here right now and see him. Punk and the elite have spoken, they are inclined to work together. All the stuff that we're seeing heading into it is just to kind of feed the fire fan the flames of an eventual feud and we're all being worked which is great if that is the case. But if it's not and that this is legitimate, is this really a poor reflection of an organization arresting promotion like this, Yeah, because you know what it reminds me of, And you may have to go back into your football history books, but like the old Eagles Dream team when they had Jonathan Wenab and Vince Young and they had all this collection of talent and they just couldn't do anything right, Like they were constantly floundering, and they happened to blow the team up at the end of the year.

21:22 That's kind of how it feels right now, where like, you know, you're kind of catering to the workers and that's not always the best thing to do in business. Now you're abotually right, like could this be a work? The whole thing be a work and everything be copasetic on the inside. I don't know if everything's peg keen, but they might have figured a way to work together and they're just working the audience, because I mean, this is a company that can keep a secret. When they don't want something to get out, it doesn't get out. And that's always boggled me. Boggle my mind with all of this, is that like, there's all these leagues and I'm like, wait, we didn't know about Brody Lee. We didn't know about you know, a lot of stuff that they don't want getting out unless it comes unless Tony Kahn puts it out there. So I'm always kind of puzzled that when stuff comes out from AW is it like legitimate or is it a work today that I guess I don't know if I want to say they're better at it than the other company, but I think it's legitimate.

22:18 Yeah, I do, I think, to me, God, I hate saying this because I love watching a w each and every week, and I'm happy with what they've done for the wrestling world by being a promotion that is a legit number two and opening doors for all different talents to keep the job going. And it makes it better for the for the wrestling world, it makes it better for the wrestling fans. But I think this is a reflection of a company that has a lot of people on the roster that lacked maybe maturity and professionalism that we see in a WWE Iron cloud environment. And granted there's always stuff that squeaks out of w E, but maybe the NXC WWPC system teaches folks on how to be professional and how to carry yourself behind the scenes and what to do and what to say when it comes to the dirt cheats, because I mean that run after brawl Out was nuts with the Sammy Cavara Entrede stuff, Eddie Kingston, like NonStop. It was like, is am I being worked here? Or is this company just an environment wise like just a complete shit show, because you know, all encompassing and going full circle here. Like you and I still watch the company. We will will tune in each and every week and be fans of the company. But we mentioned the attendance issues and I know that it gets heat because it's like, okay, yeah, they're having troubles in parts of Canada, but they just

23:51 opened up more tickets and have sold sixty five thou in Wembley Stadium. But I don't know that could be all just a way to send a message to be there first for the first UK show. Maybe it's secondary market or if it's legit, sixty five thousand awesome, but it doesn't make sense for fans not to show up for double or nothing and their debut Canada Swing the Canada tour doing a debut tour all through Canada and to have reportedly sold just seven hundred tickets for one of the Dynamites does not make sense. Maybe this is the domino effect of all that bullshit that happened in the Fall and the Winner of last Year and really poor creative doctor Trey. It's it's a head scratcher, no that like when you look at it, it's it's reality television.

24:42 And you know, look, you get that reality show that kind of catches fire and everybody watches it, and then after a while you're like, I'm just kind of sick of all the drama and the vs. The people start to tune it out because you know, you watch the shows and you're like, you know, like you mentioned earlier, like why is Jungle Boy always being feat You know, it's like certain guys they like, why are they being pushed? But then other people aren't being pushed, and you just you get frustrated, and you know, ww's gone through. I mean there's times that you and I have watched the show six, seven, eight years ago and we're like, dear God, this is god awful. So there is those elements of frustration and then the drama and then he was like, look, I'll come back to you when you're crafted together. That's why if you have a favorite restaurant and all of a sudden the service gets terrible, in the foods bad, you're just like, Okay, I can't quit you completely, but yeah, I'm gonna take a break into I see some Google reviews or some Yelp reviews that you guys have got your stuff together. So I kind of feel like that's where a lot of the middle ground fans that you got your die hards that are going to tune in h every week. But those middle ground fans that don't really have that overwhelming affection for it are probably just kind of like, look, you guys, figure it out and I'll come back. Until then, I'll just I mean, other wrestling right now is so good you don't need an alternative to appease your appetite. So we're both on board with the brand split ultimately, right, I think for the good of the company, you have to do it. Yeah. I think if you just look from the wrestling perspective, let's try to shelve the drama

26:14 the best we can. I think to push new stars and get them involved is the best thing that could happen is a brand split for Collision and Dynamite because there's guys and girls that I want to see Wressell more and they're just not getting it. And I was not tuning into Dark and Dark Elevation because I felt like it was a waste of time. And I also feel like parts of Rampage are becoming a waste of time. So if you have two solid legit shows and Dynamiting Collision, hopefully it's the best thing to push newer stars or stars that have not been pushed in some time. For AW. So, man, this is a This is an interesting three months for AW Doctor Trey because with the CM punk stuff, the new show, going into all in, going in all out, like this is a potential turning point for the company when you really take step back and look at everything going on.

27:03 Yeah, I don't know if it's Fork in the Road esque, like if this goes sideways, you know, and ratings tank you know? Is this is it a turning point towards pulling the plug? Like I don't know, I mean like yeah, I mean TBS and T and T obviously and Warner Brothers in general are very invested in this product. Succeeding. Otherwise they wouldn't give them another two hour time slot. They wouldn't talk about, you know, with the new relaunch of the HBO Max you know, streaming platform. You know, they wouldn't be kind of investing so much in this brand if they weren't themselves invested in success of it. But at there are times that you almost feel like it's too toxic to touch as well. So it's it's it is kind of that turning point, like, hey, like, how does this work, how does it take off? And can we make it succeed on the next level, because I feel like this company is kind of plateau the last year they've they've kind of hit a ceiling and they haven't forgot to push the past that ceiling yet. So this is an opportunity to kind of breakthrough and uh, you know grab the brass ring. Like just to be alluded to by Vince back in the day switching gears. This past Tuesday, two matches were announced for Forbidden Door two New Japan and All Wrestling on I believe it's June the twenty fifth in Chicago, Illinois, one being will Ospray and Kenny Omega and their third match. There was a match at

28:34 Wrestle Kingdom earlier this year for the United State Championship from New Japan, and I believe there was another one. I can't remember now. I know this is the third one. That's very terrible of me, but I'm drawing a blank on that. Nonetheless, the second match, this is the one I want to talk about, is Brian Danielson taking on cousin Chica Okada that has been announced forbiddenote Door two. Danielson made the challenge during Dominion for New Japan recently, or the Dominion Tour, and I felt like we talked about this a year ago, and to me, this is one of those ultimate wrestling dream matches, and I feel like that it may not have been the same for you, Doctor Trey, But nonetheless, Danielson Okada has been announced for me ultimate wrestling dream match. We don't get many of them nowadays. Is it for you? Heading into Forbidden Door? Is Danielson versus Occada a dream match? I mean from a pure wrestling standpoint, Yeah, Sometimes these the super indie show approach where it's like, Hey, I wanna take my best indie guy and your best indie guy, or from the rain together. I still like a story now, I will say I'm more intrigued by it this year because we have a heel Brian Danielson as opposed to maybe in the past and we had the baby faced Brian Danilsons. Because heel Brian Danilson can do some you know, sneaky stuff during the match and get the crowd and riled up against them. Was like that. So I'm a little bit more on board with it this year. But yeah, from a pure wrestling standpoint,

30:07 this is for me what Aj and Seth could have been if, you know, given the time, and we didn't already kind of have a foregone conclusion too, who was going over recently at the pay per view? So for me ultimate wrestle in Juray match which end begs the question which ones remained now from active stars, I don't want you to be like, well, no, I would love to see Steve Auston versus Rick Flair in his prime, Like no, no, we can't do that. It's it's impossible. But right now, right what are those dream matches for me? Seth rons Will Osprey. They went back and forth on Twitter over the weekend teasing money in the bank, like, that's not happening. There's no way unless Triple H is completely on board with this that will Osprey is coming to we to wrestle the week after Forbidden Door to take on Kenny and Megan. It's then going to take on Seth Rons for the Role Hiveway Championship. It would be very cool. They've gone back and forth on social media for some time. That would be badass. That is certainly one that's out there. Kenny Omega, Seth Rollins, Kenny Omega, Roman Reigns is out there. You know what other ones remain in your mind right now? USO's FTR. I think giving them an actual program, one that doesn't involve like shaving the other wrestlers back, would be phenomenal. What are some of those ultate wrestling dream matches that remain? Because I felt like Okada Danielson, I think when you really look at things, it's like, man, I think this is I think this is it? Maybe Rollins and Okada right Like, there's not many left and it's hard to pick these, but what are some of your remaining Ultimate Wrestling

31:38 dream matches? Doctor Trey AJ and the OC versus the Elite that's up there for me. Yeah, AJ versus H. I just had one. Oh. I love see Brian Danielson and seth Rawlins. At this point they're growd. I think they've wrestled in the past, but at this point their careers I think would be outstanding. Um, I'm trying to think of a couple. I had a couple other ones. Um, oh, the New Day and the Elite, like they had their little exchange a few years ago, they had their little head to head gaming thing before aw started. But you know, arguably two of the greatest tag teams of our generation. You know, going going at it would be great as well. Um, I kind of want to see Wardlow at Roman as well. Okay, that's an interesting one. Just like I don't know if anybody else has the physical attributes that Roman does as close to what Wardlow has. UM trying to think of anything else here. Should we throw out Roman in the Rock? Like, I mean, it's once again that's one of those like ones, Like it's kind of what Stone Cold him. Kevin Owens was like, is it a realistic match? It's possible, but you know it's it's just the activeness of the Rock. Mean, the Rock hasn't wrestled in what six years, seven years, en plush years, ten years. Okay, so it's it's a look as like I'm saying, I want to see Mickfoley and John Moxley go out.

33:07 See this is what I was a friend. See this is what I meant. It was like, you know, Brett Hart versus cum Punk. It's like, no, that's that's not happening. But I do think Roman versus Rock has the potential. Doctor try no, it's it's I mean, trying to think of some other ones, but yeah, I mean it's it's on the table because Rocks not that point. Like Rocks maybe the most physically uh gifted people out of the semi retired folks. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, he can he still looks the part, he can still do the job. Um, there's just not a lot of guys out there that are retired that I mean. That's like saying, like, oh, Sean Michael, we still never gotten Shawn Michael's Brian Danielson, Yeah, you know, yeah, that would be great. But like you know, in anything with Kenny and aj Or Seth or Brian Danielson involved, it's gonna be a Dream Match just because of how great they are in the ring, uh saying with the USO's FTR, the Elite New Day, I would say, Okada Osprey, I'm huge fans of those guys. Yeah, you know. Osprey for me is like when those guys is like when you saw him go to the next level when he got bigger, you know, you saw him actually take that step into like the heavyweight range of professional wrestling.

34:21 So that's that's great as well. I mean trying to think if there's anybody from UH Impact that I want to see the factor she's really Paul now well, I mean you know, uh sah. Thanks. Britt Baker, Yeah, that would be cool. And there's some reports out there today that there were some serious conversations with Mercedes Money coming to Forbidden Door prior to her ankle injury suffered new And during the match with Willow Nightingale to kry the first New Japan Strong Women's Champion. That would be cool. I would agree with you on that one. I think at Breaker versus any of the top WI stars to me is in there as well, Becky and Seth against Adam Colambritt Baker, that'd be cool that Yeah, we're all forgeting. We're also forgetting Adam Cole. I'm a big Adam Cole guy. There's plenty of Adam Cole matches that I think would be badass. I'm just trying to think, like, like, who can I put MJF up against that? Promo wise, like, I'd love to see m JFF and the Miss, but then again, they're both kind of heels, and Miss isn't as elevated as maybe he should be. But m JAFF and Rollins yeah too. I mean m JFF and Cody and www, yeah, m JFF and Cody might be one because I mean I know he had the one, you know, a small few with at that point. M JAFF really wasn't Cody established m JF. MJF now has branched out on his own. Um, try think like Black Cool Combat

35:52 Club Bloodline. Wow, well, I mean there's some stuff going on the Bloodline right now that we'll get to your momentarily that may change things. But I think there's plenty of Ultimate Wrestling Dream matches out there still that remain. But Okada Danielson for me, was one of the top ones, and I'm very excited to see this for Forbidden Door two in just a couple of weeks, presented by aw and New Japan Pear Wrestling Real quick, Hey, real quick. By the way, So now that's forbidden Door two. Does that fall in line with rock Sina too? Like, if it's forbidden but you're doing it again, is it just become the door? Well they didn't say that this is once in a lifetime. Yeah, but it is. But the word forbidden means you shouldn't do it, but now we're doing it again, So is it like is it like the lumbada? Like what'd you started the forbidden dance? But then everybody did it for a while? Like I just I guess, I mean, I just look at it now. Is when wrestlers come over to other companies that are not WWA. Yeah, it's kind of been the phrase for it now, right, I know they use it everywhere now. It's like forbidden door and the word epic. So those two things are in line together for me, I guess in awesome always awesome, it's used. Finally. The last thing I want to talk about here in regards the bloodline is on Friday Night's edition of SmackDown, they are teasing that Jay USSO will be making his decision on what is next for him.

37:13 Will he side with Jimmy Usso, who was formerly kicked out of the Bloodline this past week's edition of SmackDown, or will he align himself with Solo, Skoa and Roman Reigns who ultimately turned their back on Jimmy as well in that final segment on SmackDown that was executed very very well and a great segment, very compelling stuff. So the decision lingers, Doctor Trey. But I ask, as a wrestling fan, what is the most compelling move? What is going to put you closer to the edge of your seat than you were previously? I mean, it's gonna be Jay's signing with his brother for me, Like, I just don't see it upside Like I like Jimmy USO. I think Jimmy us is a fantastic wrestler. But as you and I discussed last week and we've discussed as long as it's been going on, Jay's on a different level right now than what Jimmy is. Like his facials, the emotion, the storytelling he's doing without wrestling is a different level than what Jimmy does.

38:10 And I think you know, with you know, I guess kind of the decision part two since he just had a decision a few months back, with Sammy now having a decision with his brother, is you know, compelling story tide because of how good Jay USO is, So I think that's the more compelling story line. And to see the Usos against Solo in Roman, Yeah, I think that is it for me as well, because if he sides, If Jay sides with Solo in Roman, it's like, Okay, where do things go from here? Right? Like it just doesn't make any It doesn't make any sense. I mean, I guess it could be prolonged out a little bit more that three six months down the line we're talking about Jay eventually turning on the Bloodline. But I feel like if there's a time for the decision to be made, like this is it, And I expect this week's edition to SmackDown and have some pretty decent viewership because of it.

39:00 Doctor Try. Yeah, I mean it's kind of like the SmackDown after elimination chamber, like what's gonna be the fallout umber the one with Sammy and turning on Roman Royal Rumble, And to me, it's kind of in that Vein where I mean that rating was pretty good because you want to see what was going to happen with Roman and Sammy and everything else. So, I mean, the fans are bought in on this. Everybody loves its angle. I thought that's you know, everything happened last week on SmackDown. That whole closing segment was fantastic and it kind of went along what we talked about, like the fact that like Solo is Jimmy and Jay's brother, but Roman is kind of the big brother. Like it's it was really good storytelling, and you know, I think I think the Paul Hayman segment on Monday Night Raw saying he'll fall in line or else, I thought was good as well. So it's just been damn good storytelling from this aspect, And you know, it's it's fun to watch a show where you're like, man, I have to tune in each every week to see what the drama going on storyline wise is and not just you know, the really good wrestling. Now. I know they parodied Good Fellas right during the stuff leading into WrestleMania they were doing.

40:13 The movie parody was for Good Fellas, Like this bloodline is a Mafioso esque storyline that's taking place, that we're seeing the family like people being whacked and turning, and the leader of the group like losing his mind a little bit. It's it's some of the most compelling and riveting stuff I've seen from W and very complex, different dimensions, different twists and turns, and I think we all kind of know what the end result will be, like Roman will kind of cave in and cause his empire to collapse around him, and maybe that's the way he ushers out of W is a full timer or this state of a full timer? But I mean it's some really great stuff, Doctor Trey, And I'm looking forward to Friday Night's edition of SmackDown, and I agree with the most compelling move is for j two side with Jimmy, because, like I said before, if he doesn't, then what what do we see next? Who could side with Jimmy. I can't see Kevin and Sammy coming over to SmackDown, I guess no, I mean maybe returning Drew McIntire or somebody. I think Drew's he's on raw, He's he's raw like for me. The other question then is you know, if Jimmy's side or Jay side to Jimmy and you go basically two on two. The heels have to get an advantage. And so either this is the ending of the bloodline and Roman ends up alone, or they have to bring in reinforcements. And if that's the case, like it probably won't be something from the I mean, there's Jacob faugh two out there on the independence, but usually at this point they where he got somebody in developmental in line to do something. They don't

41:45 really have that. So then is there somebody they bring in, almost as you know, a Burke for Higher type approach, to help Roman hang on to his title as long as possible. If they do to go the route of splitting the bloodline down the middle, you're gonna hate me for this, but you've been brought up about like bringing somebody in, and you're looking at it from the Roman perspective, well from the USO's perspective. If like this becomes a family war between the Annawani family, what is the likelihood that the stuff that we're seeing right now actually does usher or at least open the door for the Rock to return and have this feud with Roman fighting, having this civil war amongst his family. It's possible. But then once again, if the Rock. The way that works for me is if Jay turns on Jimmy, Jay stays with Roman, and then the Rock comes into basically you know, say that in reality, he's the head of the table and what Romans doing the family is destroying the family. Like, I don't see Rock coming in to side with Jay and Jimmy against Roman. It would have to be where at the end of the day they're still outnumbered for it to be a baby faced angle that kind of works. I still have this vision that like Roman, like Rock's mom is ringside and Roman like rips are apart, and that's what leads into verbally rips or apart, not physically. Guys will come down, and that's what leads to the Rock from returning to WW Like.

43:15 I just feel like that would be another compelling layer to It's it's intriguing. It's really intriguing stuff. You don't know where things go. I said it before and I'll say it again. I find Jay was to be the most compelling wrestling character in all of the profession right now, and that's extremely crazy because he's just a tag team star who is slowly but surely starting to break out and went from a guy that's like, man, I can't believe he's feuding with Roman, He's in a w championship match, Like, what is this all about too legitimately being someone I could see as a main eventor going forward. So props to everybody involved with the bloodline because that storyline has been awesome and I cannot wait for Friday SmackDown to check out what is that decision this upcoming Friday. With that said, let's get a couple of plugs and spa ste of the way. You can Downlo the Show every Thursday at Real Guy Radio dot com, Russell chatting at on Twitter, and the so Walt the Show iTunes feed, don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to ups come to charts on iTunes. You can follows individually on Twitter for myself at SRTU Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at The Doctor Trey and of course don't to follow show on Twitter at SRTU podcast. With that being said, was going on in the wonderful world of Doctor tre Franklin this week? Well, like Jeff said, you follow me on Twitter at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook, Doctor Trey Franklin when you're on Facebook and trips, I got Rocket Sea Championship Wrestling. We had a really big show that the past Saturday as we are on the fallout from Wrestling Con six.

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