C-M-F-T-DRAMA | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #705 – 8/17/23

0:00 It's stupid up. Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's EDI and this st realto Show, episode number seven hundred and five for August seventeen, twenty twenty three. Welcome to this week's edition of ass R to You. I am one after show. I am Jeff Peck joined every single week front Go soone only Dtor Trey Franklin Doctor Trey. Rememberin I said that there was no drama going on in a w my friend wait, im my fan room. Collision Now, yeah, I think so. I think they may have just sent doctor Trey home, and by the end of this episode, they may be sending me home. Welcome to this week's edition of sr tu H. It was within the last month I felt like that we spoke about see him Punk.

0:59 He seemed rejuvenated. We didn't hear any bad stories. Maybe it leads to them feuding with the elite. And then Collision happened on Saturday. Tons of cmpunk. Drama and controversy has come off of this past week's edition of Collision, and it didn't even air on television. It's what it took place. After the camera stop rolling as cmpunk cut a promo after Collision, going off the air taking shots at Hangman Page. That wasn't approved by aw nor was it a quote work Sampunk took shots at Hangman page for merchandise sales, toy sales. It was a very weird line and segment on paragraph that he went off on about Hangman Page. I gotta be honest, came out of nowhere. Seemed very desperate, and it appears that it opened up the floodgates Doctor Trey to a whole bunch of stuff which I spent a good portion of the afternoon preparing for this week position the podcast timelining everything. So I'm going to get to the floodgates. But the initial, I guess pipe bomb that set it all off was Cmpunk's weird after show promo on Hangman Page. It just seemed unnecessary. Yeah. The funny thing is so like, you know, pull back the card. We're actually recording on Wednesday. Do you know where Dynamite is tonight? No? I don't actually Huntsville, Alabama. Wow, Doctor Trey Man, you missed out, Bud, I know, I

2:30 know. And then when my buddy's just texted me, he was like, Hey, they're about to ring the bell, and I'm like Yeah, they'll lake slap on the ring bell, so don't worry about it, You'll hear it. But are we really surprised about I mean, hey, I'm not really surprised about drama from AW and B really not surprised that it's circling around cmpunk, because the amazing thing is is that, you know, you and I have been doing this show for a very very long time. We have been fans of cmpunk the performer for longer than this show has been on the air, and it just seems like that the last decade that just drama kind of follows him. And you know, he's arguably the biggest name in AW and he's kind of the lightning rod. So if he does something, we're gonna hear about it, because I mean, really, before a couple of days ago, he had anybody really heard of Nick Nemuth before a couple of days ago, Ryan, Ryan that Nick is actually Dolph Siegler. Oh yeah, my bad seat that just she goes to show you remember NICKI Nicky.

3:36 Yes, it's only because I also saw him on being the Elite the other day, so that was on being the Elite. Yeah, but you know, we hear these stories and it's like everything that he does is going to come out in the news and whether it's good or a bad and different. But the promos he's been cutting over the last two years, some have been really really good and some have been kind of weird and awkward, And this is kind of falls in that. All Right, we're taking shots to the guy that was thinking shots at about merch sale and toy sales and just random stuff like, is really anybody in AW killing it in toy sales? Is anybody killing it in merch sales? Like it's it's a different animal to be in the AW merch bubble than the WW merch bubble. So like it was just it was unnecessary and I felt like he did it just to get a reaction from the crowd. Yeah. I mean there's definitely more to that, and we'll get to that here in the timeline of events. So this off air promo about hanging out and page that wasn't approved by AW was not a work happened, and then it just felt like anybody that was in AW that was withholding information or dirt on cmpun because they just wanted things to be okay and just move past what happened from all out decided to like let every outlet know what was going on. So I'm going to go through this timeline, Doctor Trey. At any point that I go through this, if you want to stop and discuss the particular, you know, part of this story here,

5:10 let's get into it. I mean, there are a lot of parts here, and this has probably going to dominate most of the podcasts here. But it's such a huge story this week that's like mind boggling that it's it's it's happening again. This is where SRTU becomes srt U m Z. So we're back at it again. So following the promo, I think it was like literally the next day, stories come out following that. Ryan Nemth, Matt Hardy, and Christopher Daniels have all been sent home from Collision tapings due to see Him Punk. At this point, Punk and Nemth had tension due to Nema's tweet calling cempunk quote literally the softest man alive during his return promo on the first episode of Collision. Punk and Nemath talked it out at the Collision taping, but Punk perceived nemothist during the pot in the locker room Nematha Punk shook hands, but there were still tension. Nemath is featured on BT being the Elite regularly, and Punk confirmed Nemoth was sent home as per his call. Heman Page was flown in for Collision to do a pretape interview for Wednesday's Dynamite, but when he got there he was told that they would have to do it away from the venue and not to go to the show.

6:13 The belief is this was not Punk's call, but management's call after what happened to Nemoth Earlier that day, Matt Hardy was sent home due to his relationship with the Elite. It was perceived Isaiah Cassidy was a casually of Hardy being sent home as well. Punk reportedly said that was not his call. So there's really no reason right now why Matt Hardy and Isaiah Cassidy were sent home, but Punk is saying that that was not his call or people close to Punk. Christopher Daniels was sent home because of his involvement from brawl Out. He is the head of talent relations for a W since Ace Steele was also involved and not allowed to return backstage. Punk felt the same about Christopher Daniels.

6:54 Punk reportedly said that Daniels being removed was his call. Tonykh is still a big fan of seampunk and sees him as an integral part of the company's business strategy. There was a report that after Punk walked through the Current after his Collision return promo, Cohn was standing up chanting sampunk in Guerrilla kind of Weird. It was reported that Punk's post Collision promo on Adam Page did not come across how he would have liked and felt bad afterwards. Punk reportedly personally apologized to Page by text message and took shots so that there is a possibility to feud with the elite in the future, so he took shots during that return promo to open up the door to feud with them. Punk shots at Page reportedly quote an attempt to do a comedy line that backfired. Fightful Select report that Punk recently gotten into an argument with jungle Boy Jack Perry as well.

7:46 Per the report, Punk took issue with a spot that Perry planned on performing during an early episode of Collision, which took place during Aw's tour of Canada. Apparently, Perry wanted to use real glass and a backstage segment and Punk immediately pushed back against the idea as it was a safety hazard. The article also states that Tony Schivanni and others objected to Perry using glass. The exchange led to an argument between Punk and Perry, with the latter reportedly upset about his plans being knicks. Afterward, the company reportedly initiated guidelines to ensure that no performer used real glass without receiving permission from the office beforehand, which is a story that we heard about like four or five weeks ago. Now we know why. Furthermore, Punk reportedly told Perry that Collision doesn't have segments of that ilk and invites him to stay on aw Dynamite if you had a problem with it. Well. Many people in the locker room describe the situation as an argument between the pair. Punk side claimed that Perry threw a tantrum.

8:31 All in all, though most people agreed with Punk, as Perry's planned glass segment was objected to buy doctors and others. The belief backstage at Aws that this entire situation needs to be nipped in the bud right now, or it's going to be a giant, terrible explosion. As per Dave Meltzer, So why is aw doing this. They are doing everything they can to keep him happy, Dave Meltzer said, and then Russell observe a radio show because quote, when you are a draw in this business and they feel he is in dispensable, we're close to indispensable. They allow him to do this because they are trying to launch this show Collision on Saturday, and the feeling is obviously that having him is more important than having a situation where the head of talent relations can go to a show. Christopher Daniels obviously was again reportedly told to leave the lead's Collision taping at Punk's requests. More quotes, They feel that it's more important to keep seeing Punk happy because of the attempt to launch on Saturday. The top draws will always have that power. And it's a unique situation because of the feeling that they're trying to get this big giant television deal and the Saturday shows are very, very important. They COLLETI believe that he needs to be on Saturday's show or there's a great chance that the show will do lower numbers, and in the long run, those lower numbers will mean less money when they do the new TV contract nual, the expense of the locker room and everything else, So that's the basic situation end quote.

9:45 Meanwhile, Meltzer suggests that something else happened between Punk and Ryan Nemoth, who was also reportedly removed from Saturday's collision, as we discussed earlier, outside of their alleged backstage confrontation in June Didially, Meltzer said that Punk has the power although it's not written to kick people out of events, and then awco Tony Kahn gave him that ability. Lastly, Fightful Select reports that Steel A Steel recently met with AW president Tony Kann about returning to wrestling in some capacity. Steel is still employed with a DOOT but isn't permitted to attend shows due to being an insurance risk. Steel's reportedly back in AW but is not on the road and is allowed to seek work elsewhere as his contract with AWS up in twenty twenty four. The report mentions, but doesn't outright confirm, that Steele may have received back pay for the time he was out following the altercation.

10:31 Steele's role is reportedly focused primarily on suggestions for creative regarding CM Punk Doctor Trey. That is, everything I think I could capture from the CMFT drama that took place over the last four or five days in aw your thoughts. So, so, you know, do you remember the from a couple of years ago when we had the discussion about you know, the EVPs or ny I was kind of stripping some powers away from the EVP and you know, the buck stops with me and I make all the decisions. And we heard that, we heard that. It doesn't feel like that's the case anymore. It feels like Tony's running Collision. I mean, Tony's running Dynamite and Punk is running Collision like they've it feels like I would say, is running Dynamite.

11:22 Well, but and the rest of the roster. Yeah, but the booking decisions are from Tony Kahn. That was what it was. That's what was said by melting the past. And now you look at Collision the booking powers with them Punk. If he doesn't want somebody on that show, he's gonna send them home. And it now sending Ryan Nemath home because you don't really get along with them that well, not a huge blow like Ryan's Ryan's a good wrestler, but he's not you know, top of the pecking order, so to speak. But when you said to Matt Hardy at home, that's going to get some attention. Now it may have been its called, it may not have been his call, you know, sending home the head of talent relations, Well, like, does that mean just to clarify there, because it does get lost in the shuffle of everything that I just went through.

12:09 Punk is saying that he did not send Matt Hardy home. Yes, that's why. That's why I say whether he did or not, you know, because Matt Hardy still very popular among fans. I would say to defend Punk. I mean Punk, If if him or close to him is saying like, this is who he sent home, this is who he didn't send home. If he's owning some of those, I don't think we can say personally speaking that it may he may or may not have sent Matt Hardy home, you know what I mean. So we'll take Matt Hardy out of the equation, you know. But but still to send Now, once again, I know Chris Rodaniels was the head of talent Relations, but then I think Chiovanni's the assistant head or co head. I'm not really dynamic, but they're both in talent relations. Yeah, but to send the perceives head of talent relations home from an aid you show is a ballsy and b shows that punk has more stroke than management. Like that is crazy to me. So I'm like that blew me away now arguing a jungle with Jack Perry not surprising.

13:18 Two different trains of thought, two different schools of thought, and you know, the veterans, the doctors, Chiovanni, every else goes, yeah, we don't want to use real glass here. Do you not remember, like I was gonna say, do you remember having to Bill Goldberg smashing in a car window? But then again, I don't know Jack Perry was alive when Goldberg smashed in the car window and seven and Artery in his arm, I don't think. Yeah, so that's just like a long standing rule for the last like twenty five years. And hell, he might have been in the womb or he was he was he was born in ninety seven, Jack Perry, Yeah, so he's like a year old when that happened. But that's why we really haven't done that in the last twenty some odd years. So I could understand and there being a battle, and honestly, I can totally see Jack Perry three at temperate tantrum, Like that's not shocking to me, but it does. It does feel odd that some of this stuff happened in June. Some of this stuff happened, you know, before the promo.

14:16 It didn't come out, but it kind of feels like, you know, Punk did something, Oh I gotta go tattle on him. It feels like, you know, it's it's one of those things where like, oh, I'm mad at him. I need to go tattle on him for all this little stuff he did. So, I mean some of the stuff I understand, some of why I don't understand, but you know, the like like he were saying earlier about like Punk has that authority because he's a top draw. We used it a story last week on Roman Reigns has say so over who beats him for a belt, Like, if you're a draw, you get special privileges. And it's been that way throughout the history of wrestling, whether it's you know, Brett Hart not wanted to drop the the title of Shawn Michaels in Canada and try to drop at the Shamrock or Undertaker, whether it's Hogan pushing people down player pushing people down. Bruno like, if you're the top guy, you do get these special treatments. And that's just the way society is. I mean, we've all worked for companies where the best sales guys make the most money and get the most leeway, and the guys who aren't as good are micromanaged. I mean that's the nature of business as a whole that gets so to speak. I think to me, the biggest thing is is this is obviously bubbled back up again again. I mean I'll reiterate like, we've heard nothing we talked about on this podcast. We've heard nothing since Punk return. It seemed like all was well in aw If this crew was doing their thing on Saturday and this crew is doing their things on Wednesday and it's equally harmony and good creative content that's being portrayed on the shows

15:50 on Wednesday and Saturday and carries over to the pay per view, then we as Rustling fans are here for it. But the promo happens, all these stories start coming out and it does not paint seampunk in a good light. It also does not paint Tony Khan in a good light. There's a perception let's just say it right. There's a perception that Tony Khan can be very markish at times, comes off as as a mark and there's the story that he was chanting for punk. Whether it's true or not is here nor there. But I mean he has basically allowed Seampunk to, you know, dictate what the company is doing to a degree, and I don't I don't know if that's the right decision. There have been times in wrestling where performers have been allowed to do things that have gone beyond what most are allowed to do.

16:48 And I immediately think of the stories that you hear about with the Click and Sean Michaels and Jitzickmann from you know, ninety five to ninety seven ninety eight, that like they were in his ear and they had a real powerful voice in the behind the scenes area where people weren't getting pushed, people weren't getting opportunities in the main event. And it's reminiscent of that, and that was a very vulnerable time for WWE. As business got better and they had Steve Aust and the Rock and the Attitude era, you never heard of these stories ever. Again, there's always been stories about Triple H holding people down. There's been stories about John Cena holding people down. Never really anything about Roman reigns, but it's you know, we hear it from time to time, but never to this degree. I think that is the big part of the story is that in aw's own internal eyes and Tony Kahn's eyes at his company year number four, it'll be four years of dynamite in eight weeks from now, less than eight weeks from now, that they are vulnerable. They are a vulnerable company. They're heading into a show that will have a gate of probably over eighty thousand people, which is a huge accomplimentshion for them.

18:02 I don't know why they feel like they're vulnerable, but they feel like since this brawl out situation has happened, that they need sempunk on the roster, that they need cmpunk representing AW. I don't know nor think cempunk has a backup plan if AW doesn't work out. I don't know if WW would welcome and back with open arms. You know, we heard the story a couple of months ago that he went to WWE's raw in Chicago and said hi to some people and made amend's specifically the folks like them is believe that he had a conversation with Triple H. What that entailed, what we won't know, But I mean that to me is the biggest thing of this all, Doctor Tree, is that internally Awver views themselves as vulnerable. Tony Kahn, as the leader, views himself as vulnerable based on the decisions that he's allowing to happen from one talent. Internally in aw it's upsetting part of the roster and this will not create a good working environment again. And it's just like one of the things that I read, it's a powder keg and if it's not nipped in the bud, and I don't know how you nip it in the bud. At this point, it's going to be one big explosion. And I know there's a lot of negativity towards see him Punk right now, but I think that something that should not be lost in this all is that Punk wants to work with the elite. He wants to put this behind them.

19:23 He wants to put this as a money maker and that would in turn make aw better and a creative program that people are going to tune into it because controversy creates cash. Is it that bad that the elite's like, no, fuck this guy, we don't want to work with him. It's it's a slew of different ranges of an emotions here, doctor Try. I mean, this is again opening up old wounds, and it's very very strange that this amount of stuff is taking place in aw right now. So you know a couple of things you know you mentioned earlier. Tony kN comes off as markish and you can look at the four years of this company and see that, like he has a shiny new toy fetish and it's year one the elite and Cody whatever they say is what we do. Year two you get Jericho and Moxley. And guess what Jericho and Moxley were everywhere last year. It was you know when Brian Danielson came over and Adam Cole, they were there everywhere.

20:25 And then now it's to see him punks show. It's like he does kind of get behind whatever. Like I said, a shiny new toy he gets and I'm sure like if you know, I don't know, I'm trying to throw a name at the wall from w B High End. Like let's say seth Rawlins came available and somehow Tony gone made him offer he couldn't refuse. Guess what it'd be the seth Rawlins show. It's the new show. It's a new toy mentality, like I'm gonna play with this until I get bored with it, move on the next thing. The problem that happens is, for one, the direction of the company constantly changes, so you don't create any stability because year one, you know you and I say, here, it's like the Super Indie Show. And year two it was kind of like, oh, look at all these x WWE guys coming in, whether it's Andrada or Miro or Alis or Black or whoever it was. And then year three it's like, oh my god, the technical wrestling show. Like this, the wrestling is really really great. And then now it's kind of like, okay, well we have one show that's super Indie Show, and then we have other one that's kind of the more traditional show. Like you kind of almost know don't know what you're getting from one show to the next, like there's no consistency, and maybe that's by design. Maybe back at they're looking back at the old days of ww and some people loved raw for the storylines and all that stuff. People love smacked down for the work rate, but it just kind of creates instability everywhere. And I think now the wrestlers are really starting to where Tony Kant's been their buddy, their pal, until hey, they show a new toy doesn't like me. Now I'm not

21:57 on shows, now, I'm not working events. Now I'm just kind of stagging it, bouncing around. And that's why you starting to hear these little rumors about people losing faith in Tony Khn as well. And I don't know if vulnerable is the right word, but it does kind of feel like they're on I don't want to say fit, but like they're on a teeter totter, like if you're selling out Wembley saing or you putting eighty thousand people in Wembley stating you're not vulnerable to like a takeover or something, but you could lose the locker room, or you could lose half the locker room, or maybe you already have, Like how can you play both sides of the coin and you go back to brawl out And when everything first happened, that's one of things I said, like how can you sit there and here Sam Punk say these things about the elite and not stop him, not shut him up, but just nod your head like you're in agreement. Then when something happens you take the other sides point of view. It's like you're you're just trying to play both sides of the card. And that's not strong leadership. That's you know, non confrontational, passive friend buddy, that's hanging out with you, just trying to be part of the it crowds, so to speak.

23:10 Now, we obviously don't know the full story, and it's always possible with these types of reports that this is loosely based and there may be some irregular, irregulartees that did not actually take place. I mean, I think we'd have to say that and say that this is not gospel concrete, this is how it all worked out unless things are confirmed which punk or as people have done and what have you. But there may be some things with that said. You know, the elite just resigned with the company for like three, four or five years whatever it is. It's a long term contract extension. This is all going on. Why in the hell would you want to work for this company? I mean, this is wild because Tony Khan is siding with punk and letting him do whatever he wants. According to these reports and the belief of what we're seeing, why would you want to work with somebody work for somebody like that, and who is siding with someone that started a fight with you publicly and privately that was basically done out in the public, even though they're not allowed to talk about anything, like, how would you why would you want to stay in this atmosphere? I don't. I don't get this, Like this is so bizarre to me that people want to work at this company with this ship going on. So think of everybody who's resigned recently, and the number one thing they say is the schedule. If I

24:41 don't have to work as hard and I can make almost as much money not working as hard as the guy that works for the company across the streets, yeah I'll stay here. It's work smarter, not harder. You know. It's like, yeah, am I going to get all the money that you know Cody getting or somebody else getting. No? But do I have to be on the road two hundred and eighty five days a year. No? I only got to show up twice a week. And maybe if I want to go work a house show, maybe I worked and the roster split in half, and it's a pretty solid split. Like so, really, I'm only working one day on TV and then if I want to go to a house show, and I'm making still making life changing money, and I'm referencing the middle of the card enough, you know, the bottom of the card.

25:29 Guys are just there to get exposure and try to get noticed and try to get over, you know. But look, you and I have all we've all been in companies we've worked for where we're like, man, upper management's dumb. But hey, I'm making a pretty good paycheck right now and I'm not working that hard, So yeah, you know, and and I did in my business. I worked for one company. I was working my tail off, killing myself, and the other company across the town reached out offered me more money and I don't have to work as hard. Well yeah, and I even I actually had this conversation with my boss today and I told him they're me and the manager in the Huntle area have had the same conversation that we worked way less hard here than we did our previous jobs, so we almost feel like we're cheating the company. At times. He's kind of laughed, and I'm like, no, I'm serious, Like I feel weird that I'm not doing enough, but then my numbers say I'm doing good.

26:26 And that's kind of how it is with the wrestling. It's like, hey, if we're putting up decent numbers in the ratings and people are talking about us, and we don't have to work as hard and I'm still making life changing money, Like unless I'm just a WWE mark and I want and I want the Cody thing where I want to get a shot at being the WWE champion, why would I leave. I'm making really really good money and I only have to work and if I want to go it do indie shows or do signings. They have no problem with that, like, yeah, why would I leave? Its It's easier there and you don't have the authoritative voice raining down on you about Nope, we don't like that gimmick. We're not doing that. You know. It's oh, oh, if you want to try it, go ahead. Like it's just like the commune vibe almost, you know, it's like hit like Woodstock. It's like Woodstock in sixty nine over there in aw at times, So it's a little bit like why would I leave if I don't have to try hard? All right, So let's wrap this up here because we're almost coming thirty minutes. I'm talking about this and started thing. But it's so wild that this has been going on.

27:30 So the big part of that story is like this needs to be nipped in the bud or it's going to be a terrible, big explosion or giant terrible explosion, I think Meltzer said. So, how do they nip this in the butt? If if they're not talking to one another, they're not making money on television, if they're not burying the hatchet behind the scenes, how is this ever going to stop? It would have to mean that somebody would have to leave the company, So I mean that's one option. The other option, doctor right to me is get everybody in the room. Let's end this shit. Okay, no no coming and blows for the good of this freaking company. Let's get everybody together and bury it. Even if we walk out and still hate each other and we don't want to work with one another, Let's end this shit. Elite, do you want to see AW grow and be successful? Yes? See them punk? Do you want to see AW grow and be successful? Yes, all right, meet in the middle, shake hands, move the fuck on, because this crap brings the company down. The company has been so good creatively lately. I'm excited for all In. I'm excited for all Out. I know there's bitch in complaining about the creative for all In right now and how they're not announcing matches or what have you, But nonetheless, the company has been doing great. Doctor Trey, what is your suggestion to put this shit in the back burner so that aw can move forward? Because this is wild that this ship happening.

29:00 Yeah, like it's it's it's funny because I kind of feel like I had this conversation with all my friends a day. I'm like, he's got kids. I have kids, and I was like referencing to you're referring to our kids to or compare our kids to the people on our team, And I'm like, if you let let the child do something once, you can't then come back the second time ago, No, you can't do it, Well, you already let me do it once, Like you can't take you can't put the genie back in the bottle. And that's almost where we're at, Like the biggest difference with these two companies and the last forty years of WWE, there's always been a father figure, whether it's Vince or Tripolation. Now you don't want to let Dad down, you go out of your way.

29:45 Tony Kahn's not a father figure. He's your buddy, your pal, your brother. You know, anybody the sibling knows it. We've all disappointed and pissed off our siblings at some point. But you know, you don't want to make Dad angry. You don't want to make Dad mad, You don't want you don't want Dad giving that. I'm not mad, I'm disappointed talk And that's where we're at right now with this. You know, it's there's no buddy taking control. And my friend I was talking to about his team, team was kind of rebelling against him because they're in two different areas, and I literally suggested, like, you need to go to them, show them that in order for this to work, we have to work together. Nobody believes we can do it. Let's prove them wrong. And I feel like AW has to take that step, like you say, get them all in a room, hash it out, create that US against the world mentality, and then figure out a way to work together. Like in the history of wrestling, there have been a lot of feuds that made money when the guys hated each other. It's like, this is kind of wrestling when I wanted, but for the sake of the sport, for the sake of the company, you put your egos aside and you do the business. We just saw with Riddle and Seth Rollins not too long ago. Those guys don't like each other, but they did a nice little I have a read a couple of pay per view matches and it did decent business. Rollins and Rhads Cody have admitted that they have like they don't tend to like each other, but it's a healthy competition because they want to both be the best they minute and they respect one another. It's just just while that we're in a generation where

31:17 it's like bygones can't be bygones. And from the stuff I'm reading, it appears Punk does want to again cannot be lost, and they said he does want to move forward, he wants to make money, he wants to put himself into an angle with these guys, and it just seems like the elite want nothing to do with it. And I don't think they're being leaders. If that's the case in all and across the board, Tony Kahn is not being a leader, Punk's not being a leader. Members of the elite are not being leaders for this company, and those are the people that should be because you know, when all this drama is going on, it's affecting everybody and it's making a do you look really really bad in the press over the last couple of days. So it's it's mind boggling to me unless something riveting happenings on Dynamite Because as Doctor Trey and I are recording this, Dynamites going on that turns this into a work. Yeah, they're shooting for no reason and it's just just stupid to me. It's bizarre. But here we are going Doctor Trey CMFT drama I like to call it here on this week's edition of SRTU switching gears to things that are drama, but it's actually stuff that writers have written. We'll go to WI here. Jay usso closed out smacked down this past week, Super Kicking Roman reigns Super Kicking Solo Sukoa looking like he was going to re embrace with his brother Jimmy, who explained why he did it. He did not want his brother to end up like Roman Reigns.

32:37 That's why he costs him the match. Jay super kicks him, says I'm out of the Bloodline, I'm out of SmackDown, and I'm out of w WE, and says deuces. So this is the next layer, this next chapter of this storyline, Doctor Trey and the fans again, I've been saying it. He is one of the most captivating wrestlers and all professional wrestling today. That is Jausso thoughts on how that angle played out following Summer's landing with Jausso in the Bloodline. Really well done hasn't been done? I mean the walking out of the company. I'm done with this place. That's been done before. The layers of it's a little bit different, and these storylines are great because what that does is the absence makes the heart grow fonder. We've always talked about the biggest poss we hear when guys come back. You want to elevate Jay Husso to being a main event guy, like a legitimate main event guy. This is that extra layer you can put on it.

33:29 So, like, really well done. I think the last time we really had the walkout was yeah, yeah, and when he came back, huge reaction. I think they tried it with Ziggler at one point when he was doing the no music thing and stuff like that, but it didn't really the audience thing capture onto it because he wasn't viewed in that light. But I mean, you can go back to even when they lose, re leaves, town matches, things like that. It's all a design to help get the baby faces over more. And this is a perfect angle because uh, you got the family drama, the brother drama, the whole nine yards. It's it's really it was a really really good course to take when we thought, hey, like where are they going to go with us next? I didn't see that walk out coming, so good job by the writers to give me something that I can sing my teeth and do because was unexpecting. Yeah, I mean the layer to this is I did not expect Jimmy USO not to side with the bloodline. That was another layer to it that I really enjoyed.

34:28 The walkout was not expected far to Jimmy yusso it was reunited with the bloodline. It was the complete one eighty From that, his explanation made sense Obviously it's not easy to cause your brother the Universal Championship in the process as well. So overall it's just very well executed, very well done, and where this goes from here leaves me wanting to watch SmackDown on Friday, which is the most important thing. It's like that close out angle is it leaving you to wanting to see what the product is going to do next? And it is great stuff all around. Continued from the outline jus So, Jimmy Uso, Roman Rain Siloskoa, and of course Paul Hayman. Carrying over to Monday Nights, Doctor Trey, it was looking like it was gonna be Cody Rhodes to vie for the World Heavyweight Championship next, but it appears to WW is setting up Shinsk Nakamura to take on Seth Freaking Rollins. We talked about a little bit on last week's podcast. Is Shinsk the right opponent to be Seth Freaking rollins next challenger for the World Heavyweight Championship. It's debatable, it's arguable, Like for me, I'm fine with it because if you're trying to establish the credibility of the World Heavyweight Championship, I still go back to what I said before the last PLI and you convinced me to change my pick.

35:44 You gotta get a little bit of time on the championship. You can't hot potato a brand new title around, because then the fans are going, is this like the twenty four seven title? We're gonna get like four champions in three months? Because at one point you and I talked on the show it go from a Seth rolls the finn Bella to Damian Priest really really quick. Then you would have three world champions in two days on a brand new title belt. So to take somebody like Shinske, who has credibility, who the fans, the diehard fans love Shinsk's last heel run I really enjoyed as well. This is a guy that can jump on both sides of fence. Matchup with Seth is eccentric like Seth, So to me, it's a good choice if you're trying to establish a little bit longer run for Seth. Plus, Seth hasn't been babyfaced that long, and if you throw him in there with a Cody, it splits the crowd and you don't get that build up to it. To me, is it's a good way to keep Cody out of the world title picture for a little bit longer until they go back to that route. So I'm fine with it. Shinzk is an excellent worker. And look, people on here and the other chatboard are not you know, chats social media. We've all bitshed about shinsk not being in the picture for a long time. Shinz case back in the picture now, So kudos to Hunter whoever was that elevated back up and you're starting to see that come to your fruition with his NXT favorites, you know, jumping more into the limelight on

37:15 the main roster, slowly but surely. Yeah, you took my next point I was gonna ask you, is it's very telling that where coming out of one feud that was Finn Valor, now the next feud is gonna be Shinska Nakamora. It certainly feels like Triple H is sending a message, and it's a message I can get behind because that NX are with those guys was phenomenal and I love seeing these Triple HS guys getting an opportunity like Finn and shin because they deserve it. They were not booked well since the call up from NXT, and here they are now shining and it's made for a very, very fun product. So I'm excited for Shinska Kaka More to get this opportunity again. Yeah. And then even if you look at SmackDown, the stuff with EO Bailey Osca, you know all of that stuff, those are all Triple H people as well. In the women's division, you look at like some of the others, like, you know, we could get a Cody Ripley, Yeah, and then we can get Cody, Sammy and Kevin against Judgment Day. That's mostly Triple H people. So it's kind of like watching that elevation kind of comforted. We're seeing Choppa back on TV, Bronson reads on TV. Ricochet's getting a lot of TV time, you know, we're seeing some of the NXT guys like Carmelo Haze, these other guys, bring back Gargano, let's go yeah, well yeah, and bring back Tag Team Wrestling full time in WW. So it's tough. It's tough when both when the champions are legitimately hurt, right now, that's the unfortunate part. Well, we got Drew and Riddle beating the Viking Raiders, which I wasn't really a fan of, but anyway, they love those makeshift makeshift tag teams.

38:39 We'll have to see where they go with the new day on this upcoming edition of Monday Night Raw real quick here doctor for the close up shop here talking about people that are getting a opportunity to JD mcdonne's now being shown in this Judgment day feud yr and a on that. I'm a ya on it because JD mcdonn is a fantastic wrestler. Most people who know who he is or know who Finn is know that there's a tie into that because they've actually talked about it on NXT back in the day when he wasn't j D mcdonna. So and then it creates a little bit more tension because now you feel like it's the Dominic and Damian against the Irish guys a little bit. So it curates that friction as well. Maybe a little too much JD on Monday Night, but overall I think it's good for the storyline. Yeah, yeah, I agree. It's nice to see him to get some shine. I am a fan of JD mcdonna at school seeing him because it makes sense for if you know the history to add him into the judgment day stuff. So there you go. Lots of discuss here, CMFT drama leading the way, some great stuff going on creatively in w E on Ron SmackDown, and again just full full on here with all the ship with AW we discussed for most of the show. Aw's been doing great, and I'm excited for them to go into All In and you know, hopefully hopefully kill it here I mean, is that is that next week? Now all In? We get ready for All In next week? Next week's pretty sure? We do preview like we

40:10 do preview and prediction next week. Yeah, wow, Okay, I'm hope. I'm hoping we get a few more matches in now because I don't want to go into a preview prediction show with like five matches. Yeah no, that would be bad. So because we know that show's gonna go five hours, so we need to No, I'm I'm with you. They need to have some more matches and the card is looking a little lackluster right now. Not try to say, I mean paper a couple of things even now. So I mean you're getting Adam calling MJF. That's a fantastic matchup. You're getting the bucks in FTR. That's fantastic. Maybe see him punk and uh samo Joe. Yeah. By the way, I think if if Samoa Joe loses, he'll be that's new challenger, because that's the progression you get from Finn to Shinsk to Joe. Ok. Yeah, next thing you actually Shinsk, Finn and Joe. So he switched the order a little bit. But once again, Uh, Samojoe starring on a show on the Peacock Network, which you know that's where the WB network is as well. I didn't realize.

41:10 Speaking of samo Joe, I heard the other day on Collision. I was watching Collision on DVR and Ian Ricabani said that Samojoe was approaching five hundred days and as TV Champian like that, man, that can't be right. He just joined the company. He's been an aw for fifteen months. Yeah, April twenty twenty two. Yeah, completely lost that. And then once again it's Samoa Joe. So he was hurt for eight of those fifteen months. I thought he's been healthy, he's been hurt well for a while. He wasn't. Then it was like he came in worked hurt, came back TV title, didn't see him on TV for a while, and then back in when c Hi punk goes back around back into the limelights. Though, No, no, he might not have been hurt that much. I just I think he's doing the thing. Yeah, and for most people, that's not seeing it at all. Yeah, that's not seeing I'm not paying on our club for nine to ninety nine month to watch four episodes of their show.

42:06 All right, Well, that said, let's get a couple plugs and spots out of the way. You can down the show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guy Ray dot com, Russell Chattett on X and The So Ralph Show iTunes feed don't forget to Ray, review and subscribe to help help us climb the charts on iTunes. You can follow us individually on X for myself at SRTU, Jeff for Doctor Trey, for Franklin at the Doctor Trey and of course don't follow the show on X at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what is going on in the wonderful world of Doctor tre Franklin this week? Oh, I'm just making sure that we're out on a porn set, right, No, no, no, no, not you X Okay, all right, I just want to make sure, but yeah, you can follow me on X for the FKA, Twitter at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Facebook as the Graham Doctor Trey for Franklin be sure Jack Out, Rocket Stay Championship Wrestling and It's Partner Championship Wrestling when you're on Facebook. Those guys put out some really great shows. And then also I just had to say I am so proud of Jeff Peck not because of marriage, not because of anything else other than he finally said no to a wrestling show. He said no to Ring of Honor in nine ninety nine a month, so I am very proud of Jeff. We're going that's one show too many for the value. So I'm proud of man's got a nose. Limitations, Doctor Trey. It's I can't do it. I just can't or I'm not going to see family anymore and I'm mar right now, so I can't keep doing it. All right. With that said, we will preview and predict aw all In live from Wembley Stadium in London, England on next week's in the podcast two weeks from now, we'll obviously recap and review all in,

43:37 and then we will also preve and predict all out, which is that Sunday. So the next couple of weeks is gonna be very aw donovant and hopefully it doesn't include more drama. So all that and more in a very historic show coming up here for aw to invade Wembley Stadium in about ten days or so. Exciting times for professional lessaying, thank you for making us part of your week, thank you for downloading this week the podcast and until next week for doc straight Franklin. I'm Jeff Peck. This is just a real show, didn't