All Out Recap and Who Should End Danielson's Full Time Wrestling Career | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #761 – 9/12/24

0:00 It's still welcome. Everybody. Welcome to this week's edition, Miss no Real. This shows number seven hundred and sixty one for September twelve two. That on twenty four is your eight of all out, recap and review edition of the ass R tam you. I am one after the show, I am Jeff Packet joined every single week on agost of one one, Doctor Trent Franklin, Doctor Tray. I bet you didn't think I was gonna be able to sound like this, my friend.

0:42 Yeah, I was telling you off air. I thought, at worst you might sound a little bit like Eugene. At best maybe Cody Rose, Jack Swagger, lisp going on or thing. The fact that you threw out the normal intro just then, less than a week after having well right out, a week from having jaw surgery, you're a trooper, Jeff Peck in false sense of the term. Yeah, there's a lot of people that are amazed at my healing. I guess I'm certainly one of them. It has been a trip, certainly for myself. So I had a tumor on my jaw. It's come back, It's benign. Everybody's good. Had that removed, had about a two and a half three hour surgery a week ago today, so last Thursday. And it was the longest surgery of my life.

1:31 The only other time I had surgery, I was out for ten minutes, legitimately ten minutes. And I know, doctory you're coming off with some surgeries recently and all that stuff. Anesthesia is no joke, my friend. I mean, I went out at like two forty five. My surgery was at three. I went out at two forty five, and the next time I looked at a clock, it was seven oh seven pm, And I'm like, whoa, how the hell did we get here? And my surgery ended at about five thirty or so, and I don't remember really coming to until about like seven o'clock at night. So I'm not eating solids still soft food for the time being, which really really sucks. And I actually am doing this podcast with one earbud in my ear right now. I should have grabbed my headphones and literally over my ears because they did the surgery on my jaw. I was up on my condyle through basically through my ear, like pulled my ear lobe off my body, which is just weird to say. So I can't get any EarPods in my ear right now, So I am I am gutting this out, my friend.

2:44 Yeah, So I think I told you last week and a little bit I told this before. Like I remember the first time I ever had a colonoscopy. I remember them putting me on the gurdy. They put an IV in me, and then they said cow bag from one hundred, I made it's like ninety five and that was it. And then I remember waking up in the lobby of the facility we were in talking to my dad like mid sense and I'm like, wait, how did I get here. He's like, You've been talking to me for like thirty minutes. And I'm like, how did I even get dressed? And he was like, oh, well, be in. The nurse got you dressed. I'm like, I'm a grown man and my dad and a nurse were dressing me. And so anesthesia is so wild that I remember, like the last one for the foot surgery, like I didn't didn't have to count back, like they put it in and before I got to the surgery to the surgical room, I was already out.

3:39 Yeah, that was very similar for me. Yeah, and I don't remember anything until I mean, it was probably a couple hours, like you, like a couple hours after the surgery that I woke up and my wife said there next to me. I'm like, how long have I been here for? She's like, oh, about an hour and a half. And I'm like, I don't know how you guys have the patience to sit here for an hour and a half with someone who's just like snoring and drooling Like I would have been, like I didn't check it out on of got some food and came back and kept. An eye out. But yeah, it's it's crazy. And then you'll have like a little bit of a lingering effect for like a couple of days. Sometimes it's like a fog that just kind. Of sets in that just takes forever to kind of dissipate out. Oh, I said on Sunday to my wife, I'm like, I still don't feel one hundred percent. Is that normal?

4:24 Because it's the anesthesia alone, Like my jaw feels pretty decent. I mean there's like a dull, little like pain and like the right side of my face closer to my as I get closer to my ear, it gets a number and numb. I'm starting to regain feeling in my cheek, but I had this like massive wrap around my head for seventy two hours. I've explained it to people like like I looked like someone that had a toothache in nineteen fifty. That's what I had going on. But the thing that was the most was like the anesthesia like really kicked my ass. My wife showed me a photo last night Wednesday night of me in recovery post op, and I'm looking at myself and I'm like, wait, I had an iv in. I had no idea, and no idea they were giving me fluids. Yeah.

5:17 My question for you right now is though, are are you just sharing foods with your son right now? We're going back and forth. Well, he's just one sold breast milk, So no, him and I are not sharing that. But I guess if he was a couple months older, then he and I would be into smashed peas and apple sauce. I mean, you could look at your wife and say, hey, some foods protein, calcium. There you go. I walked right into that one my friends. So but yeah, no, it's been it's been pretty wild. It's there's a potential for a second surgery, and I mean this is like nobody ever says like, oh, this that was enjoyable or anything like that. But doctor, I do not want to touch a surgery anytime soon, and I'm hopeful that they can repair the final leg of this entire jaw issue that's been plaguing me the last couple of years over various different ways rather than surgical because in all honesty, like the anesthesia like really screwed me up. I mean it was. It was brutal. Man.

6:24 So not to kind of change subjects, but I had my followed like the day you were having surgery. I had my four month follow a visit with my doctor for my foot surgery, and you know, everybody works. Be like, man, when do you get in back? What are you get in back? And I'm you know, I told you just off air, like they never gave me a timeline. And so I finally saw my doctor for the first time in about a month and a half two months I've been seeing like her associate doctors and things like that, and she told me flat out, she goes, your foot is the bone graft took? Everything looks great, everything was healing properly. She goes, what are you like four and a half months from the surgery. I'm like, no, it's been three and a half. She goes, and then she looked at the physical therapy report and she goes, you know, you're about a month ahead of schedule.

7:12 And I was like really. I was like really. She goes, yeah, she goes, normal recovery time for this is about six months. She goes, you're looking to be recovered by five and she goes, even that surprising because with you being a diabetic, I was expecting seven to eight. So I was like, wow, okay, cool, Like, I guess Jeff and I both just heal faster for a diabetic and a ginger, which I think is going to be our new podcast down the road. Yeah, it's just gonna be a medical. Show Ginger Diabetes. Yeah. As the older we get, we just discussed our latest surgeries that are going in our lives. Funny enough, doctor Trey, So I'm sure you just experienced with your surgery a couple months ago as well. There were multiple people that came in multiple times asking me the same questions over and over before I went to surgery, what type of allergies? I have medical past, medical history, family history, all this stuff. So the big one was the anst anesthesiologist.

8:08 They came in both separately twice to me one apiece. They asked the same questions, do you have any family history of anesthesia issues? No, what is your past medical history? Very minimal? Blah blah blah. Then I did it again, I actually said to the woman. I was like, I literally just gave this to your colleague like twenty minutes ago, and she's like, okay, yeah, yeah, just do it again for me. I'm like, okay, went through the whole gambit. So I'm sitting in the recovery room post op and my monitor is right in front of me and it has like all this information on it and all this stuff, and I'm just like looking at it, and I happen to see and it was like, there's like this anesthesia report and it said like past family history and it said bulleted family doesn't take to anesthesia. Well, I'm like, I did not say that at all. And then it said past medical history type two diabetes. I'm like, I am not a diabetic, Like what the fuck is this?

9:02 Like they did I get a stronger dosage? Did somebody screw up? Because this is not factual. So I actually never got to the bottom of that because I was still screwed up by the time I left to the hospital. I just wanted to go. I was like, I could walk out of here. They're like, no, you need a wheelchair. I was like, I believe me, I can go. I'm glad they got the wheelchair. So I drew on my foot. I was like, this foot and then on the other foot. I went, not this one, the other one, just to make sure they actually got it right, because I was literally in that. Like I had a friend of mine he went in for. He had to have some kind of prostate surgery and he literally went in and on the front part of the anatomy he like around his groin, he rode not this, go to the back door for his proces surgery.

9:53 I thought that was right. Oh that is awesome, man. So there you go surgery Recap and Review on this week's edition of SRTU. Glad I'm I'm doing well and you know, able to sit here and do the podcast, because I really thought I was gonna be like, no, coming up next to the aw all out recap and review, and I was like, gonna have to have a disclaimer in the beginning that if I sound like I have marbles in my mouth, I apologize. So if I sound like I have marbles in my mouth, now, that's just because I'm tired and maybe still groggy and can't really talk. So and that's just in general. It has nothing to do with surgery. With U said, let's switch gears to aw all out recap review this past Saturday from the Now Arena in Chicago, Chicago, Illinois. We had four pre show matches here, Doctor Trey, and this kind of tells you how like a little bit groggy I was with some of my notes from this stuff. So the first match here the Acclaimed defeating the Iron Savages. We did not predict this match. The Iron Savage has got a lot of good offense in on a team that that was just involved in the aw Tag team title match at all in and he acclaimed. It was also weird to see the Acclaimed in the spot two weeks after all in anything you want to share about this pre show.

11:04 Match, really enjoyed the Iron Savages. The weird little hand motion to motor boating thing is kind of catchy. Tity City. Yes, if you say so. That's what they call it. This is not my I thought you. Said RJ City, so I got confused for a second. Fair fair enough, same thing, But yeah. It was really for me, the biggest done for this one was the fact that you had the acclaim that we're just in a triple threat World Tight Team title match as the opening match on the pre show, like, not even the main event on the pre show like the opening match. So maybe it's their way of kind of, you know, getting the crowd fired up, but if you need to get the crowd fired up for all out, then you're probably having some other issues.

11:48 But it's just a weird spot for the BM. But yeah, the Iron Savage has got a lot of offense in for that match, but I think it was mostly to lead to for some reason, Max Caster having to pick up a big, giant man for some reason. So outside that it was, it was a fun little tag match and enjoyable to watch. Hologram Sammycavar on Dustin Road defeated the Premier Athletes in a trio match. Once again, we did not predict this one. I hope they start to advanced Holograms booking, as I'm interested to see how he would fare with some bigger names in aw Also, how weird has Sammy Gazzar Sammy Guvar's booking been in the last year. Uh. I think it's due to being self inflicted, as he was spent for a period of this time as well, But that has been one of the most confusing things I've ever seen for a guy who was considered to be or is considered to be one of the pillars of aw Doctor Trey, your thoughts on.

12:33 This one, Yeah, I mean it was a it was a good little it was a good little six man tag but like I'm watching this Cooks, I had not really seen a lot of the hologram in person, just the just kind of like some clips and stuff, and for a brief moment I was convinced that was especially saying Kara uh, but it wasn't. The Sammy Guvar booking is weird. Seeing him and Dustin as a tag team is still taking some getting used to. Not to mention, Dustin is one third of the ring of our six man tag team champions and neither of his partners were in this match, so a. Little confusing there as well. But overall, like once again, this was the entire pre show is they were kind of fun, silly nondescript matches, but yeah, I'm kind of the Sami booking is weird.

13:18 Is Hologram gonna get the Commander treatment because or a Kingo treatment because those guys were super over for a little bit and then distant memories in the past. I just I don't know what they're going to do with this character who doesn't really speak and is kind of a gimmick look. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do too. I mean, I've been watching on collision and he is very impressive. There are times that he does miss some of his amazing spots, which should be a given at Brussel Prus that he's human. The name is very lame in very nineties, but I think they need to start pushing them up a little bit because there have been some highlight reel stuff and I think it's time coming out of all out and all in to see what we've got with them and if he's someone that can stay up there with the best of them, So we will see where things go from there. Next match here is the Bang Bang Gang defeating the Dark Order in trios match. Once again the not predict this one. The Bank Bank Gang are super over and should be pushed more.

14:13 And I also miss the days when the Dark Order we're featured more on AW television. I'm sure your thoughts on this one. Yeah, I miss Johnny Hungy being on Dynamite more like I can watch him wrestle all day long. Now Evil, you know, I like Evil? Who know? I like Alex Rams, but John Silver like why he is not? Their version of Chad Gable makes no sense to me? But the Bang Bang Gang and Juice Robinson are just so over and so much fun to watch, and I'm just itching for j White to get back so they can be featured more because having the acclaimed in the Bang Bang Gang on your pre show is kind of a waste. Yeah, I agree, It's just the whole pre show to me in general, Doctor Troy was like just thrown together matches and I did I did not understand the pre show.

15:04 I know we got one more match to go here, but I actually was like irritated watching the pre show. Yeah, I agree. So next match is the Undisputed Kingdom feeding the Beast. Mortos and Shane Taylor Promotions in Action Andretti Anti Flight Top Flight in a three way trios match did not predict this one another strange throwaway match on the pre show, as the Beast Mortos had been working with the Undisputed Kingdom all the time leading up to this match. At least aw cover that as a segment on Collision or Rampage the day before, and I wonder what happened to Wardlow. I just was saying the Undisputed Kingdom and I was like, man, what the hell is Wardlow? They won this one, Doctor. Trey, Yeah, I was. I know they try to cover it, but I was like, did Tony Kahn think Beast Mortos was black? I don't. I don't really understand. It was like, yeah, they covered it, but still is like it's weird. And then you know we had that weird appearance on Dynamite from him as well to take out Ricochet.

15:52 I was like, does he I don't know what his deal is, but yeah it was. It was an interesting match in well done, but then you know, heck, I got surprised with Donama. I forgot Leo Rush was friends with Top Flight, so at least that I'm like, okay, Like I like the I don't hate the gear when they do the top gun version of their gear, but the Flight Attendant Captain ones are a little disconcerting at times, but yeah, I mean at least Roddy and Tayvin and Bennett got a win because those guys have been kind of the good soldiers for everybody else they're trying to get over, So it's a good victory for Undisputed Kingdom.

16:35 We have met our quote officially of mentioning something about the top Flight uniforms. I think we're running on a three week podcast streak, so stay tuned for next week if we could talk about it, because I'm with doctor Trey. It's it's one of those things I noticed every single time. Sometimes they wear them, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they're different, sometimes they're not there. You go Top Flight in Action and treading in Leo rush All. Now in Flight weear onto the main show. MJF defeats Daniel Garcia. We both at MGF in this one. This was an interesting match result with MJF getting the victory, but Daniel Garcia lays them out post match despite MJF going away for a bit to film something. I guess that's why they did that angle. It appears there may be a contract issue with Garcia then, because then that doesn't make sense to me.

17:17 When don't you have Garcia takeout MGF with the victory and the postmatch injury angle if he is still with aw not the way that they went about that. So despite all that, Doctre I did think this was a really fun opener's MJF defeeded Daniel Garcia. Yeah, and a good bay to start of the show. The crowd was super into it. They were really hyped up for it. My thought on it was, okay, you can have MJF sneak the win at because just like we mentioned last week with Swarrez Strickle, do you really want MJF losing back to back pay per views. This way, MJF gets a win, Garcia still comes out strong, and you can still write both guys off if you need to if the movie or the contract situation takes place.

17:57 So but really really fun and enjoyable batch and just love the fact that a pile driver is once again an important wrestling move like it was as a kid. Paul Ornhor's pile driver, you know, Don Morocco's pod Those were like Killer Lawler, Jerry Lawler and then just got banned and went away. Now one of them I don't know if you saw the picture one of them that Garcia hit on MJF looked really scary, look very reminiscent of the owen Hart's stone Hole tombstone, like the way the head was positioned. But just it's just good to see that move VM using wrestling again. Yeah and again, just on this whole thing, Doctor Trey. I mean, whennt it made sense for Daniel Garcia to win lay him out if he's staying with AW.

18:41 If he's staying with AW, but if the contract's up in the air, MJF getting the win, but Garcia getting a measure of revenge that way, if at the contract doesn't work out, he can ride off into the sunset and be forgotten about in a year or so. I will add, and this is going to be a feme on the show. No follow up to this on one Today's Dynamite. Next match, here is the Young Bucks defeeding Blackpool Combat Club of Claudia Castilian Wielder Units, retaining AW Tag Team Championship. We did not predict this one. This is a really solid tag team match with an awful finish. I kind of want the Young Bucks to get back to the good old days as I felt like this EVP angle has ran its course. I'm not sure why Claudio and you were the number one contenders for the tag titles, but here we are when it comes to Aw's booking. That's sure. Your thoughts on this one is the Young Bucks tofeed the Blackpool Combat Club.

19:27 Well, they weren't the number one contenders. They just asked for the match, so they got a match. So it wasn't that they were number one rated. They were just like, hey, we want to shot. No you don't get one. Well, you guys are chickens. Okay, now you get one. So that was basically the storyline leading into it. I thought this match was okay, but just it just felt like a filler spot kind of tag team match, and the finish was really bad. So it was okay, but not up to the level of Widow the Bucks in Claudio and Dic couldn't if really given the opportunity in a little bit of a storyline. Next match year is will Osprey defeating Pak to retaindy AW International Championship. We both had will ospray this one my recap in this and I just simply wrote, holy shit, that was a lot of fun. That's the recap.

20:16 Yeah, that's about what I had written down too. I was like, dear God, I forgot how good pak can be when given the opportunity. Every time I see will Osprey, I like him more and more, And this was just an amazing match. I don't know what else in the shows or on this car is going. To top it. Will Osprey is a star of my friends. Chris Statlander defeats Willow Night and Gallon of Chicago Street Fight. We both had Chris Statlander and this one. Stan Lander and Willow had the tough task of following Osprey park and they delivered. And then some incredible performance by both women and a nice bounce back went for stat Lander, who really need the victory. She has taken too many l's lately. I also guess this wasn't for the CMOL World Women's World Championship, Doctor Trey. Your thoughts on this one?

20:59 Yeah, I thought that was what was like. This might be the best women's street fight I have seen in the last few years, arguably Willow's best match I've ever seen Willow have. And just a lot of fun. For these two, Like how do you follow up ospray and Poc and be on level. I was amazed at how good this match was, so kudos a both those girls. They absolutely killed it. Next match is Cazisco Kata defeating Mark Briscoe, Orange Cassie, Kenoski Takashka in a fatal four way match, retaining the AW Continental Championship. We did not predict this one. I really liked the night before that they made this a big part of Collision on Friday night heading into AW all in are all out, excuse me? And I thought that was really good and smart booking by AW creatively because I'm going to bash them for some stuff here.

21:49 This match reminded me how I much how much I enjoy watching Okada, Oc, Brisco and Takeshko Russell. I hope we get to see more Continental title matches on AW because I feel like it's become a forgotten title since Okada was champion, and we need more title defenses from the rain Maker. It's like that's all I can think about. I'm like, wait, why don't we get this more. There was a period of time the International Championship and in the Condinal Championship were defended so many times on television, and now we barely get it, Doctor Trey. Your thoughts on this one as Ocada retains. I kind of thought the same thing. I was like. I was like, I love seeing o'cad in the ring. He's fun. I'm looking forward to Acata and Takeshko when that happens. And I blame will Ospray for not having more Ocata matches because they have will Lost Spray like literally in everything right now. So yeah, it was really fun match.

22:35 I love Mark brisco I Orange Cassidy's fun. Like this is a really fun for a match that really didn't get a whole like I mean literally is like a one day build to it, but it kind of worked, so it was. It was a good four way match and really entertaining. Next match here, as Mercedes Monet defeending Nakarls Sheeta retain the AWTBS Championship both with that Monau and this one. I don't know if there was a miscommunication between Mo and Cheetah, but Mercedes kicking out at one and rolling out of the ring after three consecutive Katana kicks also known as Sheeta's finisher, was a really odd look. Other than that spot, I thought this was a nice bounce back match for Monett after a match with Britt Baker all in which was not good. I really hope she'd get some consistent booking because I do enjoy her work. Doc, suree your thoughts on this one.

23:21 I thought it was a slightly better match for Monet than against Baker. I couldn't figure out if Monette was just no selling Cheetah for the sake of pissing her off, or if it was Lyargy's miscommunication. But I also realized I would much rather watch Mariah Bay than Mercedes Money any day of the week. Just way more entertaining. Like just the segment that Mariah May had began the show with Sky Blue was more entertaining to me. The dispatch next match. Here is Brian Danielson defeating Jack Perry to retain the aw World Championship. Hold on to this one here, Doctor Trey, we both at Brian Daniels annoying this one. You know how in wrestling you'll hear legends say that fans can tell when something is bullshit. Well, Jack Perry playing some sort of badass rebel is that bullshit that I could smell out as a wrestling fan. His character slash Kimmick is not working with me and he should go back to the character he portrayed pre all in twenty twenty three when he was coming out with the classical music.

24:24 I thought that was really good before he was suspended. Referee Bryce Remsburg breaking up the small package pin was also a really bad look in this one. With all that said, I will give the scapegoat his due, which was he held his own in this match with Danielson, and the entering storytelling was really good. The postmatch angles were the best stuff from the segment, from the interaction between Killswitch and Jack Perry to the BCC turning on Danielson made creative sense. We got an explanation as to Moxley and Pock's BCC status, and you to being upset with his mentor Danielson being taken out made sense as well. There have been some stuff from Dynamite that has not made sense when it comes to this angle, which I'll get to you here once we recap this pay per view, But looking at the show itself, Doctor Trey, that was my thoughts as Brian Danielson retained over Jack Perry.

25:13 Yeah, I literally when I'm watching this scapegoat thing. I literally think I just wish he would do a Hollywood Jack Perry gimmick. I get why you're doing it, but now I mean the stuff with punk and everything else. That's been almost a year. Now let it go, move on to something else. A Hollywood Jack Perry paired with the Bucks. It makes a lot more sense. The characters would be more in alignment. Him doing like this mad Max type thing at times doesn't make a lot of sense, especially when you're one hundred and ninety pounds. In this match, it worked because Brian Danielson is one hundred and ninety pounds also, so it made it worked out. The match itself I thought was really well done. It's a universal wrestling questions of did Jack Perry hold his own or did Brian Danielson carry him through the match? I think this is much more Perry can wrestle. He's just the character doesn't fit what he does. I loved Claudio and you'd to cut it coming out to initially cut off the Bucks, and then when it led into the turn postmatch, I thought it made a ton of sense. It really worked.

26:17 One of the best turns we've seen in wrestling in quite some time, even though, yeah, it's gonna get remembered as the plastic bag incident. But for the most part, seeing Mox and Pak and Claudio turn on Brian Nilson, I thought that was really really cool and gave the BCC some direction finally because they haven't had some in a while. So love the match, love the finish. Just great overall, other than just Jack Perry trying to be and you're right, the kill switch Jack Perry thing was really cool as well. I saw something online that it had a picture of Jack Perry and Raven next to one another, because he's doing the Raven post a lot of times, and they called Jack Perry Timo's version of Raven, which I thought was a great line. It's just not working for him.

27:04 This the bus and rolling up and I'm supposed to believe that this son of a very famous nineties actor is some sort of badass and he just got punked out by CM punk via the footage that they themselves shared a couple months ago on aw Television. It's just it's not working. It's not working at all. I can't believe it, and you could smell it a mile away. Yeah, he needs a ward Low a Keith Lee Sin's he's not doing anything right. He needs some muscle behind him really for this character, he needs a kill switch for this character to really work. He needs some muscle behind him because then it makes it look more like he's a cultish leader and people could buy it, like much like Christian Cage has going on or some of the other people, or even though like dawaias sixty degree, if you have that character with a following, that's great.

27:59 But so and that character is a sidekick in a faction, it doesn't work as well. We'll get to some of the BCC stuff here once we recap again, but yeah, feel free to chime in at SRTU podcast with anything that we've said so far in regards to all out from this past Saturday. With that said, to the main event here is Hangman Adam Page defeat Swerve Strickling in a steel cage match. We both had a Hangman Adam Page in this one. Hangman Page walking out of the heel tunnel and embracing the dark side was a really nice subtle start to this match that he'ped prepare for what was expected during this match. The spot to this one were something Swerve Staple in the family photos from the house buying segment onto Hangman's body, the cinder block vertebreaker, Swerve stabbing Hangman with a burnt piece of wood from his house, Hangman power bombing Swerve on a cinderblock, the hyperdermic needle into Swerve's cheek, and finally the last chair shot to the head leading to Hangman's victory. This was gory, rustling cinema and this is the best feud AW has ever produced. Its version of Raven Dreamer and Stein Generico. Hangman being broken post match with the crowd being silent was something, and it was a cool one eighty for his once lovable character. And I love the closing shot of an insane Hangman screaming to close the show. Doctor Trey, your thoughts on this.

29:15 One one of It's a weird thing for me to say this. At times I felt they did too much, but some of the stuff they did I have never seen before, which blows me away. The very beginning of them lowering the cage and trying to wedge each other's head into the cage as it's lowering, I'm like, Okay, that's really cool. Never seen them before. The so of the cinder blocks, I'm like, all right, maybe a bit much like a verte breaker onto a cinder block. The verte breaker has literally ended people's careers and was banned in multiple states for a long time because of about dangerous to do it onto a cinder block and the match continue, I thought was a little too much, But overall this might have been the best steel cage match I've seen in a decade.

30:08 Just the steel cage much, I gotta. Say, with the pile driver for many a many year was like the pen ultimate way to end a feud and has gotten kind of misplaced over the past few years. This was as brutal of a cage match as I have seen since the old NWA days of like Dusty and Flair for crying out loud, just brutal, crazy, over the top, as much fun as you can have watching a wrestling match and still suspending disbelief and going what the F did I just see here? Just for as like as over the top. As it was at times, it was just maybe the most fun I've had watching a wrestling match in quite some time.

30:53 You know what's a good thing that aw did here is you go back to the full gear match, and there was a lot of stuff that we actually discussed in that match. We liked that match, but we were like, I think they went a little bit too far and it was too much. Being that they already like broke that wall down, anything that they did in this match did not surprise me at all. Even the hypodermic needle. I'm like, it's a little bit like like, oh my god, like queasy, like looking at it. Done. Not the biggest fan of needles, and they're putting in his mouth. I'm like, this is insane. And I'm almost positive that Hangman wanted to puncture it through his cheek, like that was the spot that they were looking for and it just wasn't working. That was. What these guys come up with for this match is insane.

31:34 But the entire feud itself, I mean, obviously those two guys are playing a massive hand in how the direction their feud's going. Whoever is creatively helping build this feud, I mean, all of them, who everybody's involved, deserves to like take a mass about, like let's let's break the fourth wall on an upcoming dynamite. All these people come out and they just take a bow Well, give him a noster or whatever, because it has been really good wrestling cinema, and I think what's most important here, Doctor Trey. There were some parts of this throughout the entire show that did this as well, including that BCC angle at all out it proved that AW can deliver from a storyline standpoint, because we saw that come ahead with this feud and match and build since Hangman's been back on television.

32:16 I mean, this entire feud has been phenomenal and it's been start stop. I think it came together very organically. And you know, Joe Swerve is the joker to Hangman's batman. I mean he turned Hangman to a heel. He turned him into a bad guy. And who would have thunked that, you know, a year and a half ago when he was this clean cut baby face that did cowboys shit on AW television. Again, my only issue with this going back to like how I felt with the MGF Daniel Garcia stuff, Doctor Trey no follow up on Wednesday's Dynamite. I was disappointed to see that nothing from Hangman, no segment. No, No, there was Hangman backstage.

33:00 Oh that's right, he did the stuff backstay Okay, yeah, the dark order. People weren't looking at him and all that stuff. Jeff Jarrett, Yes, the stuff with Jeff Jarrett. Yes, you're absolutely right. This is what I get for watching aw at two am when I'm feeding my son and bottle. But yeah, no, you're right, that did carry over. The only thing with that is I just didn't felt like it was. I guess it's impactful because it didn't resonate with me. Well, there's the weird thing for me was Hangman saying and if you tried to help him or stop me in this, you're on I'm coming for you next. And I was like, well, who was that was? I mean, the only person really they got involved this whole angle was Jeff Jarrett. So and then they played that off a little bit, and Jarrett was mad that Hangman touched Karen.

33:45 So I was like, who's there's still we need direction or we need I guess a little cleaner follow up than what we saw. Even you know, you look at him going you've changed, Okay, didn't you guys turn a heel? Also when din'd you guys be embracing this darker side? I this is and this is I guess a little bit of the issue I have with AW is like they forget sometimes or they just don't give a crap as to what direction a character's going, So then it's like they or at least they only do it with like the main event guys, like the the mid card and the undercar guys. They forget stuff at times. But but yeah, I mean, at least that one did have a slight follow up and they didn't just ignore that, Hey, our main event match, we're not going to say anything about on the very next episode of Dynamite.

34:40 Yeah, yep, no, you were right. I did forget about that segment. I guess I would have liked to see something a little bit more of those impactful like I love the stuff with Moxley at the start of Dynamite, Like I thought that was memorable. That was a really good, you know, opening segment that they did there to recap everything from all out. I guess Word is going away for a little bit. He's potentially filming something, So him and MGF are filming something, which is not great. I don't know if they're not if they're filming together, but it's a buddy cop drama that they're doing. Comedy but yeah, he's off of television for a little bit. I guess according to reports with in regards to Swerve, which is a bummer. You got to figure that this feud picks back up again. I hope it continues Doctor Trey once Swerve comes back. I would love to see whether they're actors, actresses, whatever.

35:28 But I think you got to get Hangman's family involved at this point, right, Like his wife and his kids need to, you know, have a segment and be like, we need our dad back, we need our husband back, Like who are you anymore? Like get the crowded gasp and all that crap. I think that's kind of what's missing here. I think one of the line that Jared said is that the toughest opponent some like, when you go down this path, the toughest opponent you'll have is the. Man you're facing in the mirror. And I'm waiting for the segment where you see Hangman fighting with himself in his house, his wife and his kids around, and Hangman looks at them and Swerve a staring back at him in the mirror. Cool stuff like that. Stuff like that would be really impactful to kind of show why he's gone off the rails. But you know, like that's that's the thing that the w like certain storylines they play. I mean, hell, they're playing off at angle from four and a half years.

36:18 Ago right now. Like they do have the ability to do stuff. It's just that sometimes they like they have Sammy Govarber's Ricochet for no apparent reason other than somebody said, oh, I'd. Love to see those guys go at it. They're they're high. Flyers, So I mean, doesn't really play No, a storyline, doesn't really play into the way things have been booked, and then hey, we should just have Morto Spear Ricochet for no apparent reason other than he's bored and Ricochet Sometimes where's Red and I don't know, I don't know. Is a big fan of the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, I mean that's and that's the thing that drives me nuts sometimes is like they'll they'll play stuff off that's really well in a great angle, and then they have other stuff that you're just like, why, like by the way, when you put by the way, I don't this is a nipicking thing.

37:05 And I know we're getting off track here. That match with govar Ricochet. Why do you do a moon salt off the top of the stage like four minutes into the match, and at the eight minute Matt, at the eight minute. Mark, you're doing at chinlock like that makes no sense. I don't. I don't see what you're upset about. This is what you're upset about. So there you go. It was. It was cinema. I think it's like Batman and Joker for AW. I love the stuff with Swerve laughing at the end before Hangman finished him off because I could be perceived that Swerve is laughing because he got him to the dark side. I mean, there was a lot of great stuff it was. It was really really well done.

37:46 With that said, let's give our match to the night an event rating. Doug Tray, I always seem to go first, so why don't you go first? What was your event rating for all out? What was your match of the night? My event rate was at four point one. Really solid show with some really memorable, really memorable stuff that we'll remember five ten years from now. Match of the night. I think I'm gonna go Swerve in page just because they kept upping the A like you wet a great point. They've upped the ante every single match they've had in this feud, and if they go to a fourth match, I don't know what ups it from here other than literally just setting somebody on fire. Yeah, well, let me get there's some point. We've seen that already once before. In aw my event reading, I gave it a three point seven out of five. I didn't fully love the show. I thought there was a couple of gaps, but there's some really good stuff that went on there. M Jeff Danglarcia, Willow and Stat and Osprey and Pack and I liked the Danielson angle at the Inn, and I liked obviously Swerve and Hangman, But I thought there was a lot of stuff that was kind of filler in there, including stuff with ap pre show that we talked about. My match to the night was will Osprey Park. I love that match, but that was very hard not picking Hangman out in Page and Swarp Stroke Clane. I feel like you can't go wrong picking either one of those matches from the show, Doctor Trey.

39:03 Yeah, let me ask you this, if you cut out the pre show, would your rating be higher? I think just even looking at the main card, like Bucks Blackpool Combat Club wasn't a big fan of Ocada, Briscoe, Cassie Takeshko was okay, Mercedes Mona Hikarashida I did not fully enjoy. I thought it was fine, and I thought Danielson and Perry ran a little bit too long for my liking. I just I didn't find the show completely top to bottom like entertaining in that sense. Yeah, I mean for me, the Seeta Mona mash kind of was blah. The Bucks match was kind of but just about everything else I was, I got really into, which for an aw show, I can't really say that.

39:48 All that often. So that's like. I always kind of base mine off. Is there gonna be something that I remember years from now? And I think I got two of those moments between the Hangman pay or the Hangman's Worst stuff and then the BCC turned, So I'll have stuff I remember from this, you know, five years from now. The only thing I will say to this because a couple of months ago, I thought the EVPs Jack Perry taken out Tony Kahan segment was gonna be one of those things that we would remember forever and maybe we'd still do because that's what happened. That to me has not resonated as an impactful moment, you know, months later. Yeah, but then Tony Kahn's never done anything for retribution, which is why it kind of fell by the wayside. Well, he's just had hired He's just hired Christopher Daniels to do his dirty work, which is strange. All Right.

40:34 With that said, let's just I want to move over to this conversation here who should be the one that ends Brian Danielson's full time wrestling career. And I had mentioned earlier on that I was going to talk a little bit about some creative stuff that I did not enjoy from Dynamite following up from the whole all out show, and that one thing is the Moxley angle and Darby Allen and Nigel McGinnis heading into Grand Slam. I really liked the opening of Dynamite. I thought it was a really, really great way to recap, and I like the explanations from John Moxley. And then Moxley and Darby have their moment and he says, Darby's not ready hand over your title shot for an aw World Championship match because the match that you were guaranteed to have at Grand Slam against Brian Danielson is not happening because he's incapacitated, and I was like, okay, this makes that makes sense. Now he wants to have the championship. He doesn't think Darby's ready.

41:28 He wants me the one that wins the championship and take over the company, at which Moxley said, and then he says that Danielson's in capacitated, he won't be at Grand Slam. And then Nigel McGinnis comes out and challenges Brian Danielson to a match of Grand Slam, and Tony Kahn green lights it in storyline standpoint, and they said that the only way this happens is if Brian Danielson gets cleared in the next two weeks from the match, And that explanation did not make me feel good at all, Doctor Trey. And this actually ties into you, who I think should be the one that ends Brian Danielson's full time wresting career. I thought that was shit booking, I really did. I think it started off good, that made sense, but you keep Danielson off that card. I want to see him and Nigel go at it. But it's like, I have an idea what they're doing here, which I will get to you in just second, But I thought that was shit booking in regards to what they're doing with Brian Danilson post aw all out.

42:26 Yeah, I thought it made absolutely zero sense because Darby is scheduled to have this match. Moxley comes out and just like you said, Moxie comes out, says Daniel says a. Capacity, he won't be able to do it. Dad. I'm like, all right, cool, that makes sense that way, you're not kind of screwing Darby here, Like I get why you're doing it. It makes sense, but to him. And then when Nigel comes out and says, you know, the way he set it up, thats like Dalels has been ducking in. This is the match that he's been wanting. Da Dada. I'm like, yeah, it makes sense. But then have it go into the same show that forty five minutes earlier you just said he's incapacitated but now he might be ready.

43:11 Well that that just kind of screwed everything up. It didn't make a ton of sense to me so as much. And the bad thing is both matches I really do want to see you do want to see Darby and John Mossey go at its. I want to see Nigel and Brian Nilsen go at its, but to get to it made zero sense, and you kind of just blew everything else up in your face in the process, like it just didn't work for me. And it's still you got Jack Perry out there still doing yes, you know, mocking Daniel Brian or excuse me, Brian Danielson with the the yes move and stuff, and it's like, are are we going back to that as well? Is that still part of this whole angle? And him just kind of storming off like it just wasn't well thought out to get to where you wanted to get. I don't mind where you want to get to, but at least let the path make sense.

44:06 Yeah, again, I agree with you. These are two matches I want to see, and the entire thing of itself, like if you separate both storylines from one another, it makes sense. It's like, oh, okay, that makes sense why Moxley wants to do it, but maybe you do. Nigel versus Danielsen at Wressell Dream a couple of weeks later and Danielson's cleared and we'll figure out if Moxley or Darby has won you know that opportunity for a title match post Russell Dream maybe you do it a full gear And then that takes me to what I think is going on right now. So who should be the one that ends Brian Danielson's full time wrestling career for argument's sake here, for discussion sake, doctor Trial, just come out and say that I think it should be Darby Allen.

44:47 There were reports out there pre all in that if Danielsen were to win, he was going to drop the title like pretty immediately to Darby Allen at Grand Slam because he had won the Royal Rampage match to have a championship title shot at Grand Slam in late September. And then I started noticing Wressell Dreams coming up twenty twenty four, and it's in Tacoma, Washington. You got two Washington boys, Brian Danielson and you got Darby Allen. And if there was a place that they want to crown Darby Allen champion, it is in front of the hometown crowd. And to me, I think that's what we're getting at. I think Darby wins over Moxley, which creatively would not make a bunch of sense, right now, so maybe I could be talked out of that part. I think Moxley versus Danielson or Russell dream after he defeats Darby for the title shot would make sense. And obviously I think Danielson defeats Nigel mcguinnis in a dream match that you know Nigel's wanted to see and I never thought we would get to see every again because I think the last time these two guys Russell one another was in two thousand and nine and Roh and they were both on their way out. One was they both were suspected to be going to we and then I believe Nigel failed a medical exam or physical, So that's who I think.

46:02 I don't think that there's anyone else on that roster right now in aw that should be the one that ended Brian Danielson's full time wrestling career doct tray, and I think it's Derby out of everyone. I would have said Swerved Strickland, but obviously that ship is sailed. It's got to be someone that deserves the rub, and the one that deserves the rub is Derby. And I could see Darby winning at Wressell Dream in front of the hometown crowd, And I would not be shocked if Christian Cage came out and cashed in and defeated him and walked out of w Russell Dream as the AW World Champion in front of the crowd that's going to be booing and really really irritated and pissed off, taking a page out of the book of how fans felt about Brian Danielson when he was Daniel Brian in twenty thirteen SummerSlam, when he defeated John Cena and triple H turned on him and then led to Randy Or to win the championship again. So I could see something like that playing out.

46:51 So those are my thoughts, Doctor Trey. It's definitely something that's going to gain a lot of momentum in traction the longer that this goes. But Danielson needs to put someone over that deserves it on his way out to end his full time rustling career and also drop the AW World Championship. And I don't think there's any more anybody else more deserving or that would utilize this opportunity of the most than Darby Allen would in the AW. I think my only issue with it is how much more. How much more rubbing of Darby Allen can he get? I mean he I know that sounds weird, but like he's had the sting rub, he's had the pillars rub, Like I get it. He's true. He's a generational talent.

47:31 Like the guy is an incredible wrestler. He's the most death defying wrestler we've seen since you know, Jeff Hardy's early days. To me, it should have been Swerve because of the same thing you just mentioned. They're both Washington guys, Like it makes sense. But if they do the Derby route, Like that was my thought process when you went down the Derby route, was like, Okay, Darby wins in Tacoma, but then Cage catches in because I, once again it's kind of Jack Perry thing. As much as I love Darby Allen, I just don't see the guy who's one hundred and sixty five pounds, Like the belt almost outweighs Darby, Like I just have an issue with these tiny people beating up like three hundred pounds man three of like just so these giant guys, it just it doesn't happen in real life unless you're like if you go back to like UFC one and two when they had these the crazy fighting styles. You saw the hoist Gracie fighting a sup bow wrestler and he'd win, Like it just doesn't typically happen with trained fighters. And that's always been kind of my knock on AW is it is the land of like tiny people, Like Edge is a giant in ae W and he's like six four two fifty.

48:50 You know, it's like he was an average sized guy at time in WW. If you're gonna go down the route of who needs who kind of should be the one to end it? To me, it should have been Swerve or should have been MJF just because I think those guys are more positioned to be the flag bears of your company just physically. They don't need that now, right they're established. It's got to be someone that I think, I think Danielson wants to establish someone. Well, I mean, look at this way. Out of all of the wrestlers that you and I have followed over the years and Havery's hired, has any of their opponents actually really done anything after those big matches?

49:33 Shawn Michaels, Yeah, I'm just kidding. He really actually didn't after the match with taker. Does take me from retiring Flair to take or need the rub for retiring Sean. I just think it's just that old guard wrestling mentality which Danielson has. I guess the only other person I can think of is we're having this discussion, is Osprey. Yeah, or I mean a Wheeler dah, Oh. My god, that's not wheel Er? You to AW World Champion? Yeah, I mean I like the guy in all but none, no, no. But it's there's some of these guys on this roster's like, okay this there are some very talented younger wrestlers, but they're all undersized, which Brian Danielson is. So I guess in that sense, it doesn't make sense to pass the torch.

50:18 But if you were like, hey, who's the guy at AEW that you think Brian Dason? What should pass the torch to Darby? Doesn't really fit the Danielson character. I mean it should be like a Garcia or you know, like I hate saying Wheeler, you know, but I mean those guys wrestler summer styles. I mean, Baron Corbin didn't do anything after retiring, Kurt Engele, you know, somebody's guys don't do anything with it. So you know his run on NXT as part of the Wolf. Dogs, Yeah, I mean, and now he's what the Wolf crewise, I guess I mean cruel, cool, crul. Yeah.

50:58 I don't know if there's anything really it's to be gained by you know. Oh, he's the one that I mean, if you're gonna be a heel, I'm the one who retired Brian Danielson. Okay, that works, but I mean Darby's not gonna got bragging about it. That's not the character. So I I just don't know if there's an upside to it unless Christian Cage cashes in in the middle of the match and wins the match and then he can have his little two year runs being the guy who retired Brian Danielson. I like Christian Cage in all, and I just think he has pushed way too much on a TOWB television. I find I find this, I find this current run to be boring with him. I gotta be.

51:38 Honest, I liked it. There are times that has ebbed and flowed, and I'm with you, I got I'm like, does he have something on Tony Khan? Like, does he have Tony Kan's favorite wrestler. He's Tony Khan has come out and said that, but it's all time favorite wrestler. You said it's Christian Cage. He's booking him like that. Yeah, like I think that, Like I've always loved Christian Cage, but he's not my favorite wrestler of all time. It's just that's an odd person to single as being your favorite wrestler. That's like saying, you know, for somebody to say, like Lance Storm was our favorite wrestler of all time. Like I love lan Storm, but not my favorite wrestler or Steve Blackman for that matter.

52:20 Wow, now we're just getting head cheese lower and lower here. Yeah, it's just yeah, like the Christian Cage you're on, it's been good. I have enjoyed it, but yeah, there are times where I'm like, ah, right, it's it's a little stale at times, but then they do something that's kind of fun and weird and they've killed the kill switch turning on him. Angle at the point now where when kill switch does turn nobody's going to give a crap. Yeah, I guess the only part. I mean, Moxley Mosley could defeat Darby right and Moxley let ending Danielson's full time wrestling crew would make sense. To Yeah, by the way, did you did you love the references to his lordship in the in the. Mox pro I did like that.

53:01 I mean that's a saying like mox Claudio, like anybody in the BCC makes sense because you can build off those guys like Maxi's not going anywhere for the next four or five six years, so he could have a little bit of a run with it. To me, though, it should just be somebody that you think could physically withstand the demands of being your world champion. I mean a hangman hangman doing it wouldn't make sense, especially because it stays on this dark journey. But and if Darby does it, it's fine, especially if it's in Tacoma. It's fine with me. I'm not gonna hate it. It just needs to be somebody to me, like, if I'm looking forward at my company five years from now, ten years from now, who can withstand the rigors of being a focal point physically hold up to those demands.

53:44 And I don't know if Darby can do it. I think they want them to do it, though, I think if all out of all the pillars right, MGF has already been established. The next one that makes sense to me, it would be Darby. I mean, I don't think Sammy and I don't think Jack Perry are world champions right now. I think they think Jack Perry could be a world champion, though. I think they do too. I think I think there is a lot of Vince in some Tony Kahn book and I think he's a very stubborn booker, I gotta admit, And I think putting Jack Perry in that spot it all out in Chicago was like an FU to anybody who's anti Jack Perry and pro sampunk. To me, yeah, these very like Vince would hold grudges and do things just to incite the fan base. And I think Tony does the same thing.

54:32 Yeah, it's it's this playground. Feel free to chime in at sr TW podcast on X on who you think should be the one that ends Brian Daelson's full time wrestling career. Dutchery is some big news that was announced during this past week's edition of Monday Night Ross starting I think October the seventh. It's like the first Monday Night in October ROZ going back to two hours for the rest of the time on the USA network. In regards to how many how long it will go on Netflix, the our reports are stating that there may be times it goes two hours, it may go two and a half hours, and it may go three hours. Sometimes we may exceed that. There really is no time for him right now when it goes to Netflix. So you and I have been fans of Monday Night Raw being three hours the last couple of years. Now are you happy that it's going back to October two hours in October?

55:20 And is it for the good? You know, when this was announced, I immediately flashed back to some of our early shows and We're like, dear god. We had to watch three hours of Raw. That was oh excruciating. It took forever, it just drug And now I'm like, damn, Like, are you gonna like have to eliminate some of the people that we like watching right now because it's only got two hours and we're getting some really good quality matches because instead of having filler, we just extend the match. It make it even better. Like I'm okay with it because I think they're gonna try to cram a whole bunch of stuff into two hours, because now you've got to figure out what you're gonna do that extra hour and fit it back into the whole program. Because it's been really, really good. It's gonna be hard, Like how do you build up a Bronson raid?

56:09 How do you build up some of these other guys that have been getting built up over the last few months with a three hour show? Now you have to limit that. And they're still talk of Roman Reigns having to be on raw, and if you have Roman on Raw, like you got to make sure you got time for that, because I love Roman Reigns. But sometimes those promos with Paul Hayman can run about twenty minutes. Oh, they certainly can. Yeah, those will run for a real long time, and yeah, it will be long on Netflix. I guess I'm looking forward to the changeover for Netflix. And the old man in me is excited about two hour Monday night raws. I got to meet Doctor Trey, so like for it to be over at ten o'clock, Like that's a dream for an old guy like myself, because watching some of those three hour raws on DVRs back in the day would suck. But they've done really good.

56:57 I'm upset that people are gonna lose some character development in this one. Yeah, and for me, the show will be ending at nine o'clock, which means what the hell do I do for an hour? Because I go to bed at ten? So, like, what am I gonna do for an hour? Like imbout to flip over and catch the end of a Saints Vikings Monday night football game? I guess in that last hour? Oh God, I hope it's not Saints and Vikings. And then we talk about this every year. So with the PWI five hundred, the top ten release list was released. Let's go through it here, Doctor Stray ten through one. Ten was Mystico nine, Gunther eight, John Moxley seven, MJF six, Damien Priest five, Titsi and Ido four, seth Rons, three, will Ospray, two Swerve Strickland and one Cody Rhodes. Your thoughts on the list?

57:45 So did they give you the dates of when the rankings were compiled? I think they always do it September to September, all right. I mean I don't hate the rankings. I mean you can argue, you know, is Mystico really a top ten guy when most of the audience doesn't know who he is, didn't I thought Nido had a bad year in New Japan, but maybe I was wrong, you know, like some of it is a little bit skewed, but I think for the most part, I think seven of the top ten absolutely deserved to be there. I saw people complaining that gun Thy maybe should been higher than Davey and Priest, but Priest had a little better he was championed for longer and Guntherer just got the belt right before the rankings ended. But Gunther was ic champ for forever. I don't like saying six hundred and sixty six days because then God punishes me.

58:38 But you know, maybe Gunther over Priest. You know, m j Or Moxley was in and out a lot this year, so it is kind of you know, it's you can nitpick it. But I really think outside of you know, Mistico and Nido, like eight of the top tens and the top ten are pretty solid picks. Yeah, I agree with you. I you know, this goes a lot with how we feel about how this year has turned out. I mean, we had this discussion a couple of months ago when we were looking at the halfway point of the year. I think it's a three dog race on the men's side of things when you look at Osprey, Swerve and Cody Rhodes to the top men in professional wrestling right now. I as with as much as Drew McIntyre has done this year, even though not winning as much as maybe he should, I think he's been one of the most entertaining characters. So I think I think maybe Drew should be in the top ten. If he wasn't mentioned there, I literally forgot you if you said Drew McIntire.

59:36 No, he's not in the top ten. And that's that's a very fantastic point of somebody who should be in that list. Let me Actually they broke it down some more over at Wressell Purris on Twitter. So the twenty twenty four p WI five hundred top ten from we SO one was Cody Rhodes, Number four was seth Number six was Damian Priest, Number twelve was Sammy Zay. Thirteen is Drew McIntyre at seventeen. Here you go ahead, I was a third. That's way too low for Drew McIntire this year. I agree, he's had a really, really, really good year. I think i'd put him top five. Doctor try. Yeah, i'd at least have I mean, i'd have him over missed a go Nido, you could argue him and count Priest and was out for the year.

1:00:17 I Moxley, I would put him over. I liked I've actually liked Damian Priest a lot this year. I think he could be a top top five wrestler and he's just on the outside with six. Yeah. No, I to me, it would probably be Cody Swerve Osprey, McIntyre Priest would be my top five. Cody Swerve McIntyre, Osprey Priest. Yeah, you can switch Ospray McIntyre. Yeah, I would go cod I thought, Man, I don't know right now, I really want to say Swerve number one. Oh no, I'm not saying like Cody's number one. I'd just say my top. Five top five wrestlers this year. Yeah, yeah, like Cody Swerve Osprey McIntyre Priest. Yeah, I think I agree with you.

1:01:00 I'd probably go Swerve number one as of right now. Yeah, I think I would go Swerve number one right now as well. And I think Cody two, Osprey, three Priest, McIntyre four, Priest five. Yeah, that would be my Yeah, I would and and but then i'd have Gunther right behind Priest. Yeah, I think's in there. I can't really, just as the character development for both those guys this year has been great. Seeing guntherer do a lot of stuff on his own without Kaiser and Vinci right there with him, I think helps him out, as you know, helps him out as well. But yeah, it's it's hard. It's for me, it's hard to separate Gunther and Priest because I think they both had outstanding years. I just think McIntyre's been more entertaining than both those guys.

1:01:46 I also think Rollin's being injured the last like five months and off of television here and there has really like dampened how good of a year he was having from the last time that they did this list. Yeah, but I mean that's literally like Rolins, Moxley, mjf are all basically gonna saying like Tree when they're there, it's great years. But they've been off TV so much this year it's hard to put them into that upper echelon that we named. That is a really good point. That is a good point. The rest of the We List seventeen was Juso twenty seven, is La Night twenty eight is Trick Williams. I like Trick. That's way too high. Thirty Elia Dragonoff, like Ilia, that's probably way too high. Thirty seven Logan Paul, that's way too high. PWI five hundred. Top ten from AAW two is Swerve three, will Ospray seven, mjf Hhn Moxley eleven, Samoa Joe fourteen, Brian Danielson twenty, Eddie Kingston twenty one, Kisisko Katta twenty four, Orange Cassie twenty six, Adam Copeland.

1:02:51 Okay, so you're gonna have Eddie Kingston, who hasn't been in a ring in like seven months, just off that ranking is higher than Kevin Owens in ring Orton this year. Well that was just top ten for AW. But yes, you're right, Kevin Owens and Randy ort were not up there, now that I get what you're saying. Yes, yeah, so, I mean it's is PWI as much I love, and they do have a little bit of a melter thing to them where they'll rank some guys a little bit higher than they should be just because they're of their affiliation. And we probably get skewed by fans as well for saying that we have more of a WWE bias. But Eddie Kingson's twenty and he broke his leg like in April.

1:03:32 He was having a great year. That Continental Classic run was a lot of fun. But I get what you're saying. I do get it. Sis he won it. They took the belt right off, They split all the belts up right like what two months after he won the Triple Crowd Tile they split all the belts up and then o'cata had the Continental title. Right after that. Some just for fun here which we've never covered, but Russell Puris had had put this up on their Twitter feed. Who do you think they have down as the number one colored commentator and profession and wrestling? This is not a play by play person number one color commentator. Oh that's a good one. Crap. I honestly don't know, because I would probably say Wade Barrett.

1:04:14 Wade Barrett is number two. Ah, okay, number one. Nigel McGinnis, Okay, I can't hurt Nigel's good. I can't. Nigel's amazing. When I saw this list, all I could think to myself is how much is Triple h pissed off that when he got sick? Vince let Nigel go to rot On like NXC level up and let his contract basically run out. Yeah, but do you think Triple H would let Nigel get back in the ring. I think he's been a little bit more flexible about that than anyone, because I think he had discussions with Soraya slash Page about getting back in the ring before she had I think she had said she signed with AW.

1:04:57 I think he would doctor try. I do. I think if Nigel was able to get cleared, I think he would give the okay. But and and you know, we're getting Nigel and Brian Danielson, so I think I'm okay with it. But yeah, by the way, I meant to ask you this, and I. Know this is a little bit off topic, but what do you think of Joe Tesataur so far? Uh? Interesting? Because I wanted to ask you about that because I know you're more the college football guy than I am. I think it's he's not he's not there yet, right. I really enjoyed Michael Cole's work lately. I liked that he was showing a little bit of personalent personality, and I think Test Tour is a little bit too structured, unseasoned lacking a little bit of personality.

1:05:41 My my thing so far is he's better than add Non Verk was. Oh yeah, uh he's I think he's as good as oh, the Scottish kid. I'm blanking on his name. Oh yeah, what the hell was his name? Irish Irish kid. Irish kid. He's better than him. My only take on it is. You can tell he's watched a lot of old wrestling commentating leading into this, because at times it does sound a little hokey and corny and a little bit of that, you know, early nineties wrestling style. But I think the guy is one of the best football commentaries I've ever heard, and his vocabulary is very strong. I think with a little more time, he will be really good at this.

1:06:29 So I'm giving him a little more leegue way than maybe some of the past, you know, play by play guys they've had on Raw. From what I've read, I believes he's actually a legit wrestling fan, which I think is a little bit debatable because he didn't seem to fully know who Brett Hart was on Raw Monday Night. But from what I've read, the belief is he is a wrestling fan. Yeah, but ad Non Vurk was a wrestling fan and was just wasn't good Sometimes, like being a wrestling fan can hurt you in this true because you start playing into what you grew up listening to, and sometimes it doesn't fit your natural voice.

1:07:12 Yeah, not everybody could be Jim Ross. Yeah, and sometimes when you're trying to be a Jim Ross or even back of the day at Tony Shavanni, it comes off sounding weird to me. I think testatory him and Barrett already have a good chemistry already, so I'm not hating the Raw broadcast. I just think it takes a little time to kind of get that chemistry down and get that natural vibe. I think at times he's kind of forcing it to kind of play into like the stuff he grew up listening to. Wade is doing a really good job and he helps him out a lot. Or as Gunther called him on. Raw, still, yeah, I got that. Which is his real name, Stu Barrett. All right, with that said, let's glow up shop on this week. Condition of SRT you it's get a couple of plugs and sponsored out of the way. You can down the show.

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