Dec. 29, 2023

AEW World's End Preview | SRTU Bonus | 12/29/23

AEW World's End Preview | SRTU Bonus | 12/29/23
AEW World's End Preview | SRTU Bonus | 12/29/23
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AEW World's End Preview | SRTU Bonus | 12/29/23

On this special bonus episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We preview & predict this Saturday's AEW World's End!

On this special bonus episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We preview & predict this Saturday's AEW World's End!

0:00 It's still really to be damn. Welcome everybody to this special bonus edition of the Cereal To Show for December twenty ninth, twenty twenty three. It is our aw World's End preview and predictions. We're taking a break during our holiday break to come up here and I don't know, do a couple of minutes and go through this Saturday's pay per view, Doctor Troy. We usually take three straight weeks off. We pre recorded the show from last week, the show yesterday, and the show next week well in advance. But here we are thanks to Tony Kahan interjecting ourselves with some timely wrestling content. Hello, my friends, so good to be here, My friends. Sorry, I flashback to the pre show here. I just it's a little weird to be jumping back in. I can tell your enthusiasm level was not there. We didn't get the big hurrah O. I try not to do the normal opening when it's the bonus edition. I just like to try to get right into it because I feel like there's the bonus edition is like here we are, this is us. But then usually that our bonusis are was like sad news.

1:07 That is true. It has been that way as of late. It was the last time we did it was the Bray White Show. We have interrupted our holiday programming schedule in the past when Brody Lee passed away. A lot of remembrance for both those guys over the last week with Brody Lee's passing. Now, what was that three years ago? Yeah, I mean it's just it's just wild. I mean, at least this time, it's it's like happiness that we're interjecting ourselves with because we've got a pay per view. I don't know how I feel about a pay per view during the holiday like this, but I know that this was a common thing. I remember I grew up in starkad would be taking place like this upcoming weekend. Yeah, and then you know we got all these now, like ww's kind of taking a page from Adew's book with having these branded themed raws and smackdowns as well as I like that. I really liked that, by the way. Uh, I like that Day one in New Year's Revolution is back in the rotation.

2:05 I think it's a smart thing to do because they're going to be battling. This is your wheelhouse, Doctor Trey, not so much mine, But they're gonna be battling college football all next week. So does this mean like this is like ww's answer to bowl season. I think, I think in a way right, like because Monday night, uh what the second game, the second semi final game, I think kicks off at eight. I think Rose Bowl is at five thirty, So I mean I'll be watching Raw, most likely live or delayed. But I would imagine well, for you, right the the sans Alabama fan Michigan and Alabama will be probably done by the start of Raw. I'm hoping so because that's that's that's a hard that's a hard choice because it's a weird by the way, this side note, this is a weird game for me because I like Jim Harbaugh X forty nine Ers coach and I like Alabama, so I don't know who to root for that one. So yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's it's strange.

2:58 I know Monday Night's gonna be battle for them, and then I don't think the National Championship game is until about a week later, So I mean, definitely the day one edition of Raw is going to be quite the battle and taking on the semi finals, and then people like doing New Year's type stuff like I don't know about you, doctor Trey, but usually like my family or my in laws, like we have dinner together and then the holidays are officially closed and I'm back to my normal work and grind. The next day on the second, January second, is like one of the hardest days of the year. I think it's like she, I think it's it's got to be one of the hardest. Now I'm trying to have I'm trying to think, like what other day would my mind not want to be doing anything, because I don't know. Doctor Trey and I were just talking, like we're both intermittently working right now, doctor Trey more than I am, because like my job is very quiet, Doctor Trey is out and about, so I guess it's a little bit easier. But like December fifteenth hits for me and I'm like tuned out, Like it's very rare that I get an opportunity to take a break from the personal work, podcasting, hobbies, life that I have outside of this spectrum of SRTU. So I always take like these two and a half three weeks and just kind of reset a little bit, and then when January second rolls around for me, it's like son of uh bitch.

4:19 Yeah, like the company I'm with now, it's a little weird. For like last year when I was running the live events team, like there's there's no events in December because it's too cold to actually be out there and running a fair or a festival or what is too cold in Alabama? Uh thirty five forty okay, people, that is cold. That is cold. That's that is cold. Like our highest week like today's forty seven. So like for Alabama, it's pretty cold. But like you know, if you're running events, they usually start like seven o'clock, eight o'clock in the morning, and those are it's still thirty three thirty forty freez. We don't people don't like getting out that early. So with now moving over to the retail side, it's still slow ish because it's these are in home improvement stores, so it's still slow ish. But I didn't know my company had unlimited PTO and I'm like, shit, I could just taken these entire two weeks off and nobody was said a word to me about it. But I feel guilty about doing stuff like that, so I'm just like, no, I'll keep working. But it is weird, like I'm literally like trying to do a schedule for the people that work under me, and I'm like, we can't be in the store on Sunday, we can't be in the store on Monday, and the company doesn't really want us in the stores on Tuesdays. So we're only back in the store Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, back out again on Sunday and Monday, and then light schedule on Tuesday. I'm like, why are we even doing anything? Can we just shut it down?

5:39 But oh, by the way, I was seeing this, why like thinking about bull season and wrestling. I know, I'm kind of squirreling around here and jumping around a bit, but this popped in my head when you're talking about like why hat, since we're doing these branded events like like Day one Revolution, why don't they look for sponsorship? Because I would love to see Manscape or Manscaper Presents Monday Night Raw grape Balls of Fire. I would have me, well, duh, yeah, I would love to see that, or bring it back, Tostitos SmackDown. You know, it's just what it just like little things like that like that would be a way for them to make a little bit more revenue, like, I don't see why they haven't tapped into those like college football has done for the better part of the last thirty years. Hey, listen, we're talking to Nick con right now, so might as well let mean throw it out there. Hello, Yeah, let's do it. Nick co On, please hop on in there and take advantage of the grape Balls of Fire returned by Presented by Manscape. One of my favorite January and I think they only did this once and I've definitely talked about this on the podcast somewhere in my wrestling fan library of vhs and DVD which, by the way, rip WE DVDs. WWE Home Video closes like this week. It's it's done. On December thirty. First, they just ran their final DVD, which is a survivor series, War Games, and I don't think that is gonna be talked enough about, probably the only time this will be mentioned this podcast that like w W Home Video is closing,

7:10 which has been around forever. Coliseum home Video at one point they were doing all their stuff, but one of my favorite branded special football type events they ever did was the Raw Bowl. Do you do you remember that? Doctrin? Basically essentially it was a fatal four way elimination fatal four way tag team match. It was like Breton Yoko, the Smoking Guns one two three kid in Psycho Sid and I think Razormon and Savio Vega. I almost am positive I just nailed that. I think you did because as your mentioning, IM like, I know Savio Vega was in there, like I was remembering, I was like, oh yeah. And then I think, didn't they even have like like those little like craft jersey type they think they did?

7:50 Yes? Yeah, see how you do remember that? See? My favorite thing was always the when they would do the halftimee shows where we got Rock and Magki and in the Efty Arena match was yes, yes. And I actually think the Raw Bull episode there was a halftime show and I've had something to do with like gold Dust I remember, oh yeah yeah. So but I always love when they would do the football tie is because I mean half I would think probably eighty percent of the wrestling roster were formal like high school football players. You know, most of those guys were big kids growing up. Anyway, I'm talking about you know, the eighties and nineties wrestlers, not the guys today that are one hundred and seventy five pounds. But you know a lot of those guys played football, so it's kind of like a way that's kind of harkened back. I mean, you got guys like Hacksaw Jim Duggan and you know guy you know, Wahoo McDaniel, and you know, all the way through Goldber, guys who actually played in the NFL and stuff like that. Like those guys, you know, you threw up a wrestling thing, you know, paper or event and people got fired up.

8:46 Plus those were always in response to how great the Bug Bowls and the Puppy Bowls were also back in the nineties. Yes, yeah, so go out of your way. I'm sure it's up on YouTube. Check out Raw Bull. Uh. But yeah, next week is a big week. We certainly are not going to be in the next week's edition the podcast because it's already been pre recorded. It's our wrestling preview special, which actually goes toe to toe with w w we's Previews special. That's Aaron on Peacock. So yeah, let's go hut at wa. But yeah, in about two weeks we'll get back to our normal regular schedule programming for SRTU. That falls on December eleventh, excuse me, January eleventh, and it's possible, I don't know. Maybe Doctor Trey and I will hop on here next week and we'll do a recap as well. If not, we'll certainly cover World's end recap on the January eleventh edition. So just stay tuned, continue to download US where you get US iTunes, Spotify, what have you, and keep an eye on the social media content feeds and Facebook pages and see when this podcast comes up. So we debated actually doing this, decided that we were going to do something here for a little bit at least get another one in there for the end of the year and get you ready for Saturday's aw Worlds and pay per view, which comes to us from the Nasau Veterans More Coliseum in Uniondale, Long Island, New York. I love when we it's like the only part of the United States that we treat like it's a providence in Canada where they're like Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Like only in Long Island, Are you like Uniondale, Long Island, New York, Because people like, oh

10:18 I thought it was a Long Island. It is, but Uniondale is the town in Long Island, so it's like, Okay, Canada, Long Island. Yeah, it's all the same at the end of the day. So let's get to it here, Doctor Turr. As of right now, they have announced as we record this one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten matches. I expect some to be added. One match on here that I don't see right now that I expect to be added as FTR taking on Buddy Matthews and Aliser Black or Malachi Black at the paper view. I would imagine that takes place. But they only have one show really to announce these matches, whether it's online or on Rampage on Friday night, No Collision on Saturday, The Collision Cowboys Stay Home in lieu of World End taking place on Saturday night live in Long Island.

11:09 So the first match here, Doctor Trey is a twenty man Battle Royal for a future AWT and T Championship matches. You and I record this. They haven't announced a soul that is going to participate in this match, so we have no ideas. So the way that I went about this is I looked at the Continental Classic. I looked at the card, and I was like, Okay, who performed well in the Continental Classic and is not performing in the pay per view. A couple of big names, Brodie Lee and Andreddai Alito is in the pay per view later on Claudium Cassick No Lee is not. So when I looked at the standings, I was like, Ah, this person who performed on Wednesday night in a phenomenal triple threat match with Swarve Strickland and John Moxley. I'm gonna go with Jay White to win this battle Royal Doctor Trey, I'm thinking I honestly, so let's see, I went Continental Classic like like, that's kind of I feel like those are the favorites of Tony con right now. So is Christian and Adam Copland on the card for the match they are They're in a no DQ match, okay, for the TNT Championship. So if I go there, yeah, you know what, I typically try to go way off the radar with us, but you know, I think I think I'll take Claudio to get the win.

12:26 All right, If that makes sense, Yeah, let's do it. Claudia Lucassignoli is doctor Trace pitt Pick. I'm gonna go with Jay White next match. Here is on the pre show, Hook defends the FTW Championship against Wheelery Utah in an FTW rules match. No idea what that means, but it's an FTW rules match, so I mean FTW. I mean I know what that stood for, so I don't know if that means the rules are. Like if we if we get the no rope match like we saw on an XT the other night, I'm going to take hook uh in the just because I can't see Wheeler Year running around. Although that would bring back the oh, the guy that Claudia fought, the Bloodsport guy. Oh, Josh Barnett, Josh Barnett. Yeah, it's gonna say Josh Briggs. I'm like, that's the wrong Josh b You could do the blood Sport rules. If you have the FTW title, do all your matches under those kind of rules.

13:20 I still think I'll take Hook. I'll take Hook. There we go. I'm gonna take Hook as well. He's the hometown guy, so I'm gonna take Hook to win the match. Next match, here's the Championship final for the AW Continental Classic for the inaugural Triple Crown Championship of the ROH World Championship, New Japan's Strong open weight Championship and the inaugural ae W Continental Championship. We have no idea what that title looks like yet. Eddie Kinkson takes on John Moxley, the winner of both the Gold League and Blue League finals. The booking of Eddie Kinkson has been a lot of fun in this He started down OH two, worked his way back up, became an underdog, finally defeated Brian Danielson on Wednesday Night's edition of AW Dynamite. I'm really looking forward to this one ton of momentum on Eddie Kinkson's side. I think they did this tournament. He put up his They mentioned multiple times his life work of roa trold title on the New Japan Strong open Weight Championship to be in this tournament, and therefore, I think that this tournament is the opportunity to springboard Eddie Kinkson some more. I'm going to take Eddie Kinkson to win this match, and I just want to give a little tip of the cap to AW.

14:26 The Continental Classic tournament was a ton of fun to watch, really fun matches, great stuff. It is what has carried AAW since Full Gear to now and it's literally just been this tournament to me, that has truly carried aw looking forward to this in hopeful year's future. Eddie Kinkson has my choice to win this match, Doctor Trey. Yeah, I think Eddie kings is my choice as well, and a lot of it is because of the Moxley booking. Like you, swar Strickland obviously probably the hottest star on the roster, does not get the win because it's like, Okay, you got something else planned first, Sword's than this. Then you have Moxley go over to have Kingston beat Moxley, and those guys are like best friends in real life, so I don't think Moxie is might losing to Eddie Kingson to help elevate his friend. So I'll take Eddie Kingston as well. Next match, Year's Julia Hart to fend the AWTBS Championship against Abadon, Doctor Tree, Who do you like in this one? Man? This was tough because I really like Abadon, She's a really fun character. But I'm gonna take Julia Hart using her black magic against the Abaddon zombie magic and maybe a little sistant from sky Blues Blue Magic to overcome Abudon's zombie magic. Yes, Okay, Wow, and they were in Orlando on Wednesday night, the home of the Orlando Magic.

15:41 Ironically enough, I'm gonna take Julia Hart to retain the AWTBS Championship as well. This feud has been decent. I'm happy for Abdon to get into a little bit more TV time. She was a really fun character, like in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I know she'd I think she'd battled some injuries and have been away for a while off of AW television. So it's cool to see her in the spot and it's a nice, nice little AWTBS Championship feud. Next match is Timeless Tony Storm defend the AW Women's World Championship against Riho. I'm going to take Timeless Tony Storm to win and retain. And I just have a feeling doctor Trey that Jamie Hayter or a doctor Burt Baker maybe returning at Saturday's AW World's End event. Yeah, there about due. I'm taking Timeless Tony Storm as well. Like I like Rio, but I mean from where she was at when the show first launched a few years ago to where she is now, Like, I mean, she's not even a top Japanese superstar in Order's division. I think you could at Tashida, So like for me, it is kind of just a you know, we're adding days to Tony's run type match, so I'll take Tony Storm as well. Yeah, I mean Rio got derailed a lot by the pandemic and then just very intermittently she's involved in the pro in the promotion. I don't even really know if she's technically a full time wrestler for them at this point based on how things are. But you really forget that Rijo was the first AW women's World champion. It's it's kind of absurd in a way, but the women's division in AW can be a podcast in itself. Next match here is Ricky Stark's Big Bill, Kyle Fletcher and Powerhouse Ops taken on Christ Jericho,

17:14 Samy Gevara, Sting and Darby Allen in a eight man tag team match. Obviously, this is a match that is taking place because of the dive tiiculitis with Kenny Omega, which could have resulted in death based on some things that are being reported out there right now. The Chris Jericho Samy gevar reunion is a quick creative response to that, so I assume they don't think Kenny Omego will be back anytime soon. We'll get Doctor Trey's thoughts on this in just a second, but I felt like at one point Doctor Trey sidebaring this all that Don Catallus was going to be revealed as the devil and that Powerhouse ops Kyle Fletcher Powerhouse Kence Kenoski to Keshka and Samy, We're gonna be the Devil's henchman. That may be all out the window because Sammy is reunited with Chris Jericho, but here we are. I mean, this is kind of in response to the Kenny Omega stuff. And this also gets Stinging Darby Allen on the card as well. In an eight man tag team match. Who do you like in this one? And I guess give your thoughts on the Jericho Samy Gevar reunion. So I'm gonna take the Sting Darby Allen Jericho Gavar team because Sting doesn't lose him lose like two months before his retirement match in a random eight man tag So you have Sting and Sting in Jericho on the same team as well. It is pretty pretty cool. So I'll take those guys in the win, and it's just kind of such a knee jerk booking

18:47 response. It is literally like this may be like I give credit to WB for having the worst baby face turn of all time when Al bernadel Rio turned baby face because of the spansion now table Sammy Goavarz hearned baby face because of a baby So that's literally like the ultimate reason to turn babyface. So it's just one of those things where just like it sucks that you know, Kitty got you know, diverticul lies because we all know the brock Lesnar story and how much that mess brought up. It's just it is kind of a shame that you don't have somebody in place to kind of want to elevate into a good babyface role other than flipping Sammy Gavara against Samy gavar Is quickly becoming the big show of AW. I was literally thinking the same thing. It's like the more kids like been baby facing, heel like I think already a dozen times in five years of AW, so it's just hard to kind of keep up. And it's like, Okay, we turned a baby face because Don Challis put his baby in a painting, Like, does that make Don callus the villain from Ghostbusters too, or you just you don't do the match for a while. Yeah, I guess it does in a way. He is the villain from Ghostbusters too. But yeah, I'm gonna take Jericho, Sammy Sting and Darby Allen as well. But creatively, in this entire thing, I think this is a big problem I have with AW creative is that the follow through. I get it. I understand their hands are tied. The belief is that probably Kenny's going to be out for a while. But say

20:21 Kenny does make a miraculous return and he's back a month from now, and then it leads to Sammy turning on Chris Jericho again. That wouldn't shock me at all. It actually wouldn't shock me if Sammy turns on Jericho this Saturday. AW World's end. There's just so many like you just had FTR make the save for Daniel Garcia and oh God Millard their magic Daddy Magic Millard there from the former JAS like pair. Daniel Garcia up with Jericho, got a great hand. Yeah do that, I mean dip into the stuff like Jay Haeger makes a ton of sense. They can go off on the story about how Hagar basically saved Jericho's life overseas several years ago when they were both in Wue like they have in the past. I just felt like there were so many different ways to go about this and then go in the Sammyovar well again, it was just really strange because they had the big turn at I believe Grand Slam where he turned on Jericho and then he either got concussed I think he got concuss at Wrestled Dream and then we hadn't seen him because he was concussed and then had the maternity leave by having a baby with he and his wife te Mellow Time Mello. It's like, what like this just I don't know, very poorly executed in just a lack of different options that could have made sense. Is he the worst of the four pillars right now? Based on the booking. Based on the booking, I would still put Jungle Boy

21:51 Jack Perry. I'm I don't. I mean this again could be a podcast in itself, I mean all three of the four And I'm a RB Allen fan. I like Sam mcvaris in ring work. I think we all know how I feel about Jungle Boy Jack Perry. Like Jack Perry was as a character over the heel turn of the summer was starting to take a turn in like this swarming villain that was you wanted to punch in the face. But like, and I know they could still kick my ass, but visually, three out of the four don't look like they could kick my ass, like it could be in a decently even fight. And I've just never been I know that's a very old school approach, but I just have never felt that those guys are are truly the four pillars of the company. I I throw Orange in as the fifth pillar then, and I'm like, yeah, even Orange, I don't think I could. I think most people could think they could take orangin to fight as well. Yeah I would. I would say guys like Moxley, Jericho, Omega, maybe like the Bucks or like the true pillars of that company. But whatever it is, what it is.

22:52 Enough of that next match here has been is Christian Cage defending the AWT and T Championship in any Notice qualification match against Adam Copeland. This has been kind of a mild feud. I don't know where kill Switch Lucasaurus is. I don't know if he's hurt or I don't believe he was written off of television. I think he may be hurt, but there's been like zero explanation. They changed his name, he wrestled on Collision and then disappeared, and then nothing has come out of this. Cage defeated Copeland when Nick Wayne's mom interfered, her acting is like up there with some of the worst I've seen Judy Bagwell, yeah, but she has like the potential to be Vicky Guerrero bad or good as well, Like you don't know where that's going to go.

23:47 But nonetheless, I don't know. The Adam Copeland booking of AW has been peculiar at best. I feel like a ton of momentum and hype and popularity and excitement and then it's been kind of mild so far. I don't I don't know. That's always been the trend with with a lot of the debuts in AW for some reason. With that said, I do think Adam Copland becomes the AWT and T champion at Saturday's event and defeats Christian Cage in a notice qualification match. I kind of want to put into a Nick Wayne's mom on a forkliff match. It's possible the way that Tony Kah does stuff, So it is it's a really weird fore and you and I have done this, been doing this show for a very long time, and we always talk about like when best friends have a feud, it's usually really really good because those guys trust each other implicitly and we'll do just crazy stuff like the sam he's saying Kevin Owens Views, you know, things like that, where you're like, these guys trust and love each other so much that they'll just go crazy and balls out and it gets really intense. And this one it feels like they're trying really really hard to be intense, but it's coming out.

24:59 Yeah, you're trying really hard. I'm taking Adam Copeland as well, because this just reminds me of a w booking in general, Like they'll get a big name in they'll shoot him to the moon, and then like a month and a half in, it's like Tony Kahn forgot about this trying new toy and it gets put back in the box and it just has played with every so often. It's the same booking they've had with Mirro with a drawing a even Brian Danielson to a point Adam Cole like they they come in full of pomp and circumstance and then it end up ends up signifying nothing for a while. So uh, I will say this is a reminder Christian Kasha was in my list for a Performer of the Year on the men's side when we did the Awrange show. So just he's he's been great. I don't know, it just feels very It just feels stagnant. Maybe because longtime wrestling fans like Doctor Trey and I have seen this, We've seen this play out. It just feels it feels forced. It does it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like these guys. We all know these guys are best friends and we want I think the thing is moose of us want to see them together. That's why I was literally going to say that I thought it would make better sense to lead the direction of Nick Wayne, Shanna Wayne and Lucasaurus turning on him for Adam Copeland make to save them the other way that this is going right now?

26:14 Yeah, I agree, So I love it. Next match here, Swerve Strickland versus Keith Lee. Strict. Swerve has been on a major breakout year in twenty twenty three. He's been in the continental classes the last couple of months, six weeks or so. Keith Lee has been talking about him and chasing him over the last couple of weeks. He identified him as Swerve Strickland. This is a reset, a replay of what was a great tag team and then a pretty decent feud post and now it's taking place again. This just feels like a match that, Hey, we want to get Swurve Strickland on the card. I love the stuff they did with Keith Lee. There's a little bit of a storyline here, so it makes a little bit of sense. So let's throw it up there. Swarve Strickland, take it on. Kei Lee. Doctor Trey, who do you like in this one?

27:02 Uh? Like, I'm confused. I got this is hard for it says. It's like, it's weird for me to pick because the Keith Lee stuff has been decent on the undercard stuff, like you know, he's he's looking for him, and I'm like, by the way, I love that Carmelo chimed into Carmelo Hayes chimed in on this as well. But it's like, Okay, you're kind of giving Keith Lee a little bit of a push, but you're putting him now with Swerve. Who's the hottest guy in your company. I don't think you want Keith Lee taking Swerve down. So maybe this leads to Keith Lee joining Swerve at some point. I don't know. I'm taking Swerve because this is hard to pick against him right now because he's so on fire. So I'll take Swerve getting the win. I'm gonna take Swerve Strickland as well. The Keith Lee booking has been kind of poor for a while now, so I'm I'm a huge Keith Lee fan. I thought at one point like he was gonna becoming w w weeed World of aweight champion type on this podcast back when he was a w I think if he was in the w umbrella right now, Triple H seemed to have affinity for him and liked his work, he may be higher up on the car than he currently is. Maybe this is an opportunity for him to reboot a little bit and get back in front of the eyes of the resting fans a little bit more positively than having black hair one week, having gray hair the next week.

28:18 Tagging with Dustin Rhodes one week back to solo and then taking on Shane Taylor at ROH Final Battle a week later. Like, it's just been really weird booking for Keith Lee, who I think deserves more. Hopefully this is a reset and a reboot for him. But I am taking Swerve strictling with a victor. I think Swerve is going to have a epic twenty twenty four, which we'll probably talk about a little bit more on next week's regular edition of SRTU on January the fourth. Next match here is Miro taking on Andrete l Edelo. Those obviously the backstory here, Miro said to his wife C J. Perry, who, I hope she's feeling better. She was in the hospital with a really nasty finger infection. I don't know if she will be at the show on Saturday. They are not promoting her from being there.

29:04 But Miro said that he would not touch Andredi l Ilo while he was performing the Continental Classic, and once it was over, all bets are off and that's what leads to this match. Outside of just a couple of backstage vignettes and promos, there really has been not much in ring bill for this one. I had a tough time calling this, but I'm gonna go with Miro to take the victory of Doctor Trey. This is good because I think we get to disagree on one. I'm gonna take Andrade just because I thought Androti did really well in the Continental Classic and it seems like they're kind of getting him on a roll a little bit. I love that Miro says that the only reason he wants to fight on drate because Andre is an a hole. It's not about it's not about his wife. It's weird watching one guy find another guy who his wife manages that guy and that guy's wife in another company, but she's out of the torn Aco right now, so that's just kind of weird for me. But uh yeah, I'm gonna take on Dradik.

29:55 I thought Andretti had a really really solid run in the Continental Classic. He did, he had really good run, and I hope for a bigger year for Androdi because I am a fan of his work. Next match here is for the aw World Championship as MJF defense against Samoa Joe. We will get Doctor Trey's thoughts here in just a second and a prediction, but a little bit of a preview here Doctor Trey. On Wednesday's Dynamite, it was revealed that Samoa Joe had struck a deal with the Devil. The Devil's Henchmen are the new ROH Tag Team Champions And depending on where you are and stand on the storyline, you either really like what's going on, You're kind of mild to what's going on and you like and dislike some stuff, or you completely hate what it's going on with this Old Devil storyline and the involvement of Samoa Joe and MJF in and out of this entire thing. Let me start by saying that, and I rarely get like this, but I am an old school wrestling fan. The ROH Tag Team Championship was at one time considered one of the highest tag team titles in all of professional wrestling. The fact that right now it's held by two people whose identity we have no idea they are, and these Devil Henchmen is not ideal. But it's also not ideal that the title was on MJFF and Adam Cole was being barely defended, wasn't on the ROH Final Battle a couple of weeks a while ago as well.

31:15 The Samo Joe Devil twist. I kind of wish this played out a couple weeks beforehand. I know MGFF has been hurt, but this has been a mild feud from my standpoint. There's meaning behind it, but it's been been kind of mild, and I think a lot of that has to do with the injury then obviously playing up of what's going on with the Devil's henchman as well. Doctor Trey, your thoughts on this match, the storyline, and who you think walks out as aw World Champion on Saturday Night. So I think it helped this storyline a little bit, like it kind of gave another twist to it. So it's like, Okay, well now I'm a little bit still interested in who this is. I don't hate, like I don't hate that two masked men who we don't know are the tag team champions.

32:04 That to me is a little bit of a throwback to the old days when you'd have like the mass Superstars and things like that. I do hate what they've done with the ring aboutter tag team titles, and a lot of that was because of the injuries. So, you know, I don't mind that the Devil's rejects have the belt right now. I just like that name better than the Hitchman. It's just it did give a little bit of layers to this, because that was one of things gonna plain about that was that they weren't really doing a whole lot with the storyline, and now that they are, it's like, okay, well you're giving a little bit to it, a little bit of substance to it alone. And I think a lot of it has to do with the Adam colandery. I think it's gonna still come out that at this point. I feel like it is almost gonna be certain to be revealed that it is Adam Cole, you know. So I guess I didn't hate it, but uh, it just adds more to me if I go, Okay, well you're gonna give the spin to it. But I just still don't think that samo Joe's they got to take the belt off MJF. So I'm taking MG after retain. But maybe the kind of shot their watt a little bit too early with even somehow with Joe being revealed as striking a deal with the devil, because now that shows to me that he knows who the devil is. So that's one more persons who it is.

33:15 I guess. I guess essentially, so you're taking MG after retain, right, I guess essentially it It may but you can still have an agreement with the devil without actually working with the devil in the storyline. It's just weird saying this out loud. I know. But I to me though, like you don't make a deal less you know who you're dealing with. That's logic. Maybe maybe people tagged with Ray Mysterial all the time and they may not know what he looks like under the mask. Yeah, but you know, like you've got twenty years of Ray experience, you kind of know what you're getting with, Like this is a brand, you know. This is when when wrestling becomes real. It's like, look, if this is reality, I'm not striking, I hear you. But if you're going for a world MPIP, you're making a deal with the devil. I mean, do you really need to know who's under the mask? I gotta know that you're gonna be carry your end of the bargain. I don't know, I don't know.

34:08 I understand where you're coming from, but I still think that you know you don't need to know who the actual devil is by playing this all out, I'm gonna take MJF as well, and I guess while we've got this, we've got a little bit of still extra time here if we want again. I had originally thought that the devil was going to be revealed as Don Kallus and his family like Kenoski Takeshka, Will Hobbs, Kyle Fletcher, Sammy Cavara. It had been four people. The build of all those henchmen resembled the Don Kallis family build. I also think at times, I think we figured maybe it's going to be Adam Cole, Roger Strong, Matt Tavin, and Mike Bennett. Maybe you've thrown Kyle Riley, who is set to return as well. But none of those wrestlers kind of fit the build that has been out there, especially the very muscular one, unless they add like Wardlow to it. Who could be you know, that big bulky devil's henchman.

35:09 I also thought a point said it was going to be sort of Strickland and the mobile Embassy because of the build of the big muscular one, which would have been Brian Cage. Then you've got the Gates of Agony in there as well, and Prince Nanah. I don't I don't know the direction here. And then obviously as people have gone back to thinking that maybe Jack Perry as well, whether that's the way that you reintroduce him to television, I don't know who's it going to be. I think they're running into a problem right now that people are losing a little bit of interest and maybe they want to reveal it at aw Worlds N on Saturday night, which that may be the plan, and the plan also needs to be considered, like if it's not ran on Saturday, I think I don't think it will. I think they'll probably reveal it once MGF drops the time, which Doctor Trey and I both don't think will be Saturday. Will the reaction meet our expectations? Like I think if it's not anybody outside of Adam Cole, we are disappointed. This could have the higher power type reaction from we back in what ninety nine when it was revealed as Vince, which was a decent twist I liked at the time at the time as a kid. But I think a lot of people refer that storyline as being a little bit underwhelming Where are you sitting on this right now, Doctor Trey? Who who do you think is behind the mask?

36:36 I guess ultimately, I mean, I guess you've kind of said that already with Adam Cole. Who do you think is behind it? Who do you think is revealed? Do you think it happens on Saturday's pay per view? I mean, I'll sorry, I don't think it happens at the pay per view. I think you hang on to a little longer event especial if you're Gonn put the ring of Monter tag belts on, you know, the two mask guys, and it just it would feel kind of like, you know, everybody pulling their mask off at work. They feel like a Scooby Doo episode when it comes to like who, I think to me, like you have to look at it as whoever this is has to become the biggest villain in your company, and so you have to look at you who your top people are. Like if they were to reveal Sting as the devil, like right before you know, his last match, his last match is him and m j F, Like that'd be really cool, Like I'd be all about that, you know, just Sting turned heel right before he leaves, you know. You know that's why like I take I take Jack Perry out of the mix, because I just don't think you can put Jack Perry as being the face in the focal point of your company. To me, it's got to be an Adam Cole, a swerve Stricklind, somebody that you've already either elevated or has already been a main inventor, you know, and line that up that way. The swarve thing be great because I just love to seeing not in a Devil's match behind him just dancing away like that'd be funny as hell too. So maybe it's stokely Hathaway and he's just say with how Ring of Honor has been booked for the last six months and he's the devil.

38:02 The firm comes back in, but you have to present this. That's why everybody hated the Vince gimmick was because you had a chance to elevate somebody else and make them an instant main eventor. And I guess you could do that with Jack Perry. It's just Jack Parry's one hundred and fifty five pounds. It's just how do you elevate somebody who could get knocked over by a strong you know, Long Island breeze. That's why to me, it's got to be somebody you're either planning on making a face or a focal point of your company, or somebody's already in that spot. So that's why the Adam Cole thing makes sense to me. It's why it swerve makes sense to me. You know, like I just don't see anybody else on the radar unless they're just waiting for another free I mean, could it be a Dolph Sigler, you know, contracts coming up? And maybe that's why everybody's better masks because they've been waiting for that moment to reveal it to be Doll or somebody else. And I don't hate the the mass muscle guys because back in the aces an eighth days, you know a lot of those mask guys were just guys they had on the show, and then when they came out who everybody was? Half the guys they use under mask were not in the eighties and eighth groups. So talk about disappointing reveals, Yes, So I mean there is, I mean, is it? I just worry about this is going to go old school for a lot of younger folks. I just hope it doesn't heard like a Black Scorpion type thing where they're using one guy's voice and it gets revealed that it was you know, Rick Flair. The entire time that was a horrible, horrible angle because they had somebody else in mind in it the deal fell through. So it's kind of the same thing here.

39:36 It's like maybe they had somebody in mind the injuries, say, the injuries that to Adam Cole through a wrench of the whole plans. They tried to readjust and drag it out, and hey, maybe it comes out Musafa, you know, and we get retribution two point zero you it'll be interesting. I do know that one of the henchmen going to the ring last night for the Ring of Honor World Tag Team title match against MJFF and Simojoe does have some sort of go tee because you could see that in the mass there. So I don't know the whole thing is. It's interesting. There's a lot lot lot writing on this for this to be a successful storyline, and I really feel like for me as a wrestling fan, the way that it gets best executed would be the reveal of Adam Cole behind this all entire thing, so we will see, we will see how this plays out. AW World's End comes to us again this Saturday from the Nasau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale, Long Island, New York. To everybody tuning into the pay per review, Enjoy the show, enjoy the weekend, stay tuned, stay tuned and everything. Maybe we do a special bonus podcast next week to recap and review AW worldsen on its own. Maybe we save it for the January eleventh edition of SRTU. But once again, next week's regular edition of the Still Realto Show will be on January the fourth. It's our twenty twenty four wrestling preview special. Enjoy the weekend, Enjoy the New Year's Eve and Day holiday until next week or the next time we get on here. Maybe do a bonus cas thank you for tuning in to this special edition of sr TU. For

41:08 doctor Trey Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack. This is mister Rotho show. Yeah, I mean it is. Sorry, Samley just came in and decided to hit me with a bawl. We're watching AW Talking Wrestling. I figure I think he just yes, I'm okay here in Matthew if I was okay. He just hit me the poor an object and then asked me if I was okay.

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