AEW All In Preview | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #758 – 8/22/24

0:00 It's welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition of Sarrealda Show episodumber seven or fifty eight for August twenty second, twenty twenty four. This is your aw all in preview and predictions edition of s R T. You I am one after the show, I am Jeff Peck joined every single week like host only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. Are you all in in all in this year? My friend?

0:45 Uh, it's like the hockey pokey? Can I just put my right foot in and take my right foot out and then put my right foot back in. Then I'll just take it all about and then you do have the hockey pokey? Yeah yeah, but I mean, uh, I mean hokey pokey hasn't been trademarked by other companies. I really haven't surprised in my forty years of wrestling fan and that nobody has come out to the hockey pokey song. Hey, it's that is actually kind of surprising. Yeah, like right, like that, there's no like mister Rogers. I guess like Bray Whitt did a Mister Rogers the like thing, but like a child educational gimmick, and that's like their theme songs, the hockey Pokey.

1:27 That would I mean that or just you know some like I don't want to say, like maybe the ice like we had a clown, we never really had the ice cream man, you know with his little like a little truck with the music that plays like that would be clever or something like that. But I know most hardcore wrestling fans don't like gimmicks. They just want to see their wrestling action. I'm like, no, I like, I still like my. Characters, which which is bizarre because this is gonna be like completely aw focused. And I had tweeted about this over the weekend. I was watching Collision and I'm a big fan of top flying action in Andretti. I think there's obviously a huge world upside there and those guys are extremely talented and clearly like Tony Kahan likes them.

2:09 They added one of jade card gills, like like v Battie, the one that wasn't red Velvet. I cannot remember the name now for the sake of me, do you remember that name? Your name Laila something? Yeah, Laylah Gray, Leila Gray. So they've added her and she was like in this flight attendant gimmick, which is like obviously like borderline like attitude Era working on a sex appealed esque that they're doing with that character and on collision freaking top flight in Action Andretti came out in pilot outfits and I'm like, what the hell is this? Like this a is this like a like a joke?

2:49 Like is this supposed to lead to something? It felt so gimmicky to me, felt like so early nineties, and it's just funny that you brought up like wrestling fans don't like gimmicks. I'm like, why why are we doing this? Like I can understand the Layla Gray thing, but then putting Action and Ready and the Martin brothers in pilot outfits, like whoa, this feels like ww to me. Yeah, so funny thing because I thought about that this I saw that, I was like, you know, for me, like being I guess I'm older. I grew up in that air a little more than everybody else did. Like I didn't hate it because one of the things I talked to a lot of the younger guys on the Independence thing about is if you can do all the moves and everybody's about the same height, the same build, and they're all kind of doing the same moves what makes you stand out And as corny or as cringey as the outfits may have looked, everybody's talking about it.

3:44 So it has made them stand out a little bit. Now, over the course of time, they'll get some fine tuning and stuff to it, but it does kind of play into the play, into the name, and it does make them stand out now good or bad, you know it does. Sometimes it doesn't matter, but it's it's making people take notice of them and go, oh, man, Like I think that match they had on Collision actually has more views than any other match on Collision from the weekend. So and you think it says they were in pilot offense. I think people were like, man, have you seen what these guys are doing? The gum and pilot outfits, and people went to go watch. So it has drawn attention to them. It's just now you want more eyes on you.

4:25 And then they go, man, these guys can actually really wrestle despite the captain's outfits. Now you make a little few more fans. So it does they if because I used to have the issue now with them, so might well. But like Private Party, all these smaller tag teams private party, top Flight. They all kind of do a lot of the same stuff, so at least this kind of stands them out and kind of brands them a little bit, and then hopefully they can kind of find tuna to where it doesn't look so corny in a few months. But it does make them stand out a little bit. I just felt like they didn't need to do it, And I think if in this day they've been rocking with this whole, like every flight is a red eye flight obviously head tilting a little bit towards four twenty, I think if they did something more in that vein and a little bit more acceptable in like twenty twenty four wrestling, I think that would have been maybe the gimmick that you would have gone with it rather than the pilot outfits.

5:21 Downside is then if they go over like the rascals, Sorry, if they go a little more that way, they're kind of infringing on rascals territory. I people call them out on it. So once again, what we did was when was something that really nobody's done, Like, nobody's. Done, nobody's been a pilot in wrestling. Yeah, so yeah, that'll do it for this week. Position a sort of you know, we just had a discussion about top flight. That's all we're doing today. Good luck, enjoy all in and we will check you out next week. Let's get into it. This is gonna be extremely AW centric because this is their WrestleMania and we're gonna be focusing a lot on AW and all In this Sunday from Wembley in London, England. And I'll start with obviously a nod to we here, Doctor Trey. Does AAW all in have a WrestleMania like feel to it? As we are days away from the event taking place this Sunday, I.

6:21 Would say card wise and bringing out their star power. Yes, maybe not promotional wise, like it's not I mean, I mean, obviously they're not on ww's level for promotions and marketing and stuff like that. But if you're looking at the card and looking at the way things are laid out and the way ticket sales are going, it does have the WrestleMania vibe. I just I mean, you're not seeing all of the AW guys on all of the talk shows and media outlets and things like that as much as you do see for WWE. But you know, for a five year old company, it's a pretty solid layout for their version of Wrestlemanidia Man.

7:04 That's a really great point you made there, because even when you go back to WrestleMania one, the night before WrestleMania, Hulk Hogan and Mister t hosted Saturday Night Live in nineteen eighty five, and that at the time was one of the biggest shows on television, extremely popular. As years have gone on and Cancel Culture Rages on SNL isn't as good as it used to be, which is a show in itself. A whole nother day when Doctor Trey and I do a non SRTU podcast, but it was a big, big deal that w was doing that. And I think that's a fantastic point because as far as I know, I know they're making rounds in radio and podcasts.

7:47 I've seen that, but I haven't seen aw Land on say ESPN. I haven't seen them land on major news outlets promoting the show, and they're not. That is the one thing that's lacking. The wrestling side is certainly there. The card, the build has felt like the most Okay, this is their biggest show of the year than any other card they've done, but the marketing and promotion is definitely not there, and I think that's a fantastic point, doctor Try. That is the part that's probably missing from making it a WrestleMania like feel, which is kind of concerning because does AW ever reach that point where they could reach those major news outlets and promote this show in the future like we does WrestleMania.

8:34 I think I would put this point, like I was thinking about it as you were answering that. I'm like, you know, with with Tony and Chad, Conn's backing, like they have the connections in media to get their guys out there, and it may be something they're just they overlook. I mean, it is one of those things where, like you know, they've always tried to distinguish themselves as you know, the opposite of ww either antiwwe like the the wrestling fans. You know, it's where wrestlers go to wrestle type promotion. But you always need to grow your product and I'm kind of even simple stuff like getting on ESPN or even the NFL network. When your dad owns an NFL team, you should be able to get somebody on the network to promote the show or even the tie ins to the stuff with the soccer team in London and things like that, like they have the ability to do it.

9:29 I just think it may be something they're overlooking right now, just kind of relying on word of mouth and die hard wrestling fans. But once again, there's no real celebrity tie ins to this one a la WrestleMania. There's it's not out there in pop culture. It's not out there and you know, normal media where for everybody to see it. So I think it's just an opportunity that they're either overlooking or just missing out on right now. So just to play devil advocate in that point, so you're you know, you're bringing up grape ones. There there's no worts entertainment entertainment value to it that we typically see with w the pomp and circumstance and aw markets itself as the wrestling promotion. Does that fit their ideology on how they should be presenting themselves as a company or is it a missed opportunity that they should be taking advantage of.

10:20 I think it's a little both. I think that they I mean, one thing we can say about AEW Jeff is they're pretty stubborn at times. They are who they are, they lean into what they do. And those guys that are fervent in their belief about pro wrestling being pro wrestling, you know, they kind of run that place. I mean, you do have the Chris Jericho's of the world and things like that that are you know, multifaceted and have been in a variety of different entertainment venues. But one of my things about AAW has always been like, if you're not growing the product, you're getting stale and you're plateauing. And for as much as Dieheart wrestling fans love so strictly just use him as an example, why do you not have Swerve out there in the media having people take notice of it. It's your main event. Have people find out who Swerve Strickland is. You know, you have the MJF will Ospray match is going to be, you know, one of the was talked about matches of the year.

11:19 Neither guys out doing media and these are the your your building blocks for who your company is going to be in five to ten years. They need to become more household names. I mean, most fans know who you know. Most people you know, they might have heard John Moxley. They they you know, Chris Jericho, you know, even conservative fans like know who O'Brian Danielson in. But your building blocks your Darby's or Jack Perry's. The guys that your your pillars, your foundations, your swerves. Those guys need to be out there making the rounds right now to draw in some new fans, some casual fans, just to take notice of it. Be like, man, I really like the way this guy was talking, or I really what this guy said, or I really like this guy's swag or whatever it is. You know, get those fans to buy the paper even check it all out.

12:04 The last thing that I'll mention here, Doctor Trey, in regards to this comparison of is it the WrestleMania of aw wrestlemanna like feel to it? Is the fans perspective going into WrestleMania. Personally speaking, I get really really hyped for WrestleMania. It's it's the similar excitement that you feel, as you know, heading into the Super Bowl and watching the gameplay out. I feel like I was actually really hyped for SummerSlam this year, which is very very rare. It's it's rare that outside of WrestleMania, I get hyped for shows. I'm excited for aw all in this weekend, but I'm not hyped to the degree that it would be for a WrestleMania Like last year. I think I was more hyped because I was super excited that aw was going to have over eighty thousand fans for a promotion at the time that was forty years old, have a major show for the first show in London, England.

12:53 I was really hyped for that. But outside of the excitement that I have for the card, it's I don't have that feel to it. So as a fan, do you feel like it's a WrestleMania like promotion or event this upcoming Sunday. I mean, like, like I said, Earl, like based on the card, I would say yeah, but some of the things around it, like Okay, we're in Wembley Stadium again, you know at this point, now this is the fourth European pay per view event in the last year, so it's kind of like, Okay, that's a little different. You know, it's not the same as it was. It doesn't have the newness has kind of worn off of it. Now we're kind of like, okay, we're you know, it's not rehashed, but it's you know, if WrestleMania did two in a row from Vegas, you know, it's kind of like, oh well, it's it's not anything different. We kind of saw this and then once again like it just doesn't have the hype factor in it as I mean, we were all excited even though you and I sat here three months before so Mania going. You know, Cody's gonna beat Roman.

14:02 You know, we we all kind of knew how that was gonna play out. It still had, you know, the wow factor to it. It's still had that you still got excited about it. Like I'm excited for swerving Brian Yanson because I don't really know how it's gonna go and how it's gonna play out. But it just doesn't have that umph to it like Cody and Roman had, or even you know, Drew and you know, Drew and Punk or anything else you know that we saw going on to WrestleMania season, even though Drew and Punk did in wrestle But it just doesn't have that Oh I guess I'm trying to figure out the right word for it just doesn't have that extra energy or hype that a WrestleMania does. It's a fantastic card laid out, but it just doesn't have that wow factor leaning into it like a WrestleMania does.

14:48 Are you excited for this Sunday, I'm. I'm pretty excited for it. Like I said, I think like the one thing I'm missing is just that we don't have like Wrestleman has got. I also gotten known for having surprise appearances from either legends or people from the past or things like that, and I don't feel like we're going to see that. So it's like, I maybe it's a little bit they're lacking some of the nostalgia that you and I love in WrestleMania's true like it, it just doesn't have that maybe layers to it that Mania does. I think what would help is and I feel like I've seen this in like other marketing that they've done when it comes to promoting the show, and I actually think it was more in line with promoting All In in Arlington, Texas next year is in print. I feel like I've read recently like this is our biggest show of the year. I would have loved that hyped so much more on aw Television, on Dynamite Rampage and collision, like this is our biggest show of the year, the biggest match in AW history. And I mean there's times with WWE's promotion, like the biggest WrestleMania Main event of all time with Lesner and Roman Reigns that you kind of scoff at it, or the greatest wrestling match of all time between Orton and Edge and you scoff at it.

15:59 But nonetheless it's like your eyeballs go to it and you get excited and they win you over. That way, that is something I would have liked AW to do is market this show as the biggest show of the year. And I think maybe in aw's mind they don't want to do that because they don't want to belittle all their other shows. And when people are like going out there to buy tickets, but you know, you're putting it in Wembley, You're putting it in Global Live Stadium next year where the Texas Rangers play. Over fifty plus thousand will be in attendance or close to in Wembley this Sunday. It could be similar attendance in Arlington, Texas next year. It make it your big show, and again, I think that's some things that they're missing out, but it's building that way. It's funny because this is something doctor Trey and I have been talking about forever. When it came to AW launching, was you know, what is their Wrestlemanian And we often debated it. It was, well, maybe it's double or nothing, maybe it's all out. I sit here today, Doctor Trey and I say, aw all in is their WrestleMania based on the things that they've been doing the last couple year. I don't necessarily know if if you fully agree with that yet.

17:03 Oh yeah, I mean to to market it for Wembley Stadium last year, this year and then already hyping up, you know, for Globe Life. I think they kind of have settled on all In being there WrestleMania and you know that, but they still need to distinguish it from everything else. And this is something we talked about last year and this year they did kind of push all out back a little bit. But last year we had all in and then all out right after. You know, WrestleMania might have backlash right after it, but it's not a week or two weeks later. It's still on the normal cycle. You know. One of the things that wa does that is you know, you know we talked about the road to WrestleMania. We as soon as the Rumble hits, the WrestleMania sign is out, and even on the pay per views leading into Mania, the WrestleMania sign is out there.

17:57 It does make it feel like from Rumble to Mania, it's like the playoffs in sports, like you have to get through this to get to WrestleMania. I think that's one thing that AAW hasn't done. And you're absolutely right, like part of it was for the first few years, I don't think they knew what their WrestleMania type event was. I think now they have settled on all In being it. Just maybe next year we start seeing more of that branding like you know, the road to all In or the Path to all In or whatever. You know, Moniker, they give it now, you've settled on it. Now, let's kind of line it all up so that way people know, Hey, we're trying to get to all In because that's our big event, that's the one that the drive everybody to it, that's the one we want everybody focused on.

18:42 Yeah, I think they've done some really they've done a good job with taking those steps. I like that they had the owen Hart Tournament as the winner of each the male and female would would main event a title match at all In. I hope they do that again next year. I like the bill that they've done with all In twenty twenty five and only to Texas, like this is our biggest show of the year. And I agree with you. I think that they need to start having people cut promos. That's like I want to main event all In. They need people to start hyping up that they're on a quest to main event all In. That's what makes it a big deal. That there's the reason why the Royal Rumble is the way it is, and everybody in WWE their passion and then their drive is the main event WrestleMania one day, and that's what we need to see with all In. And I think they're taking the right steps. It's not there yet, but it's not like this stagnant place. I do believe that they're taking the right steps and making it a big deal, their biggest show of the year and their equivalent to WrestleMania.

19:37 So really looking forward to the Son of the Card is very strong. The build has been very strong. We will preview and predict the entire card later on in the show. Keeping with all of the wrestling, obviously, the big thing right now is in regards to their television deal with Warner Brothers Discovery. Their exclusive negotiating window has since expired, so AW can theoretically be negotiating with anybody, any channel, any network, anyone out there for the rights to all of their television content. The most recent update comes to us from fight Full Select reporting as followed saying WBD sources of claim that WBD recently made another offer that is in aw's hands. Those close to the situation claim that previous officers were a quote at least double aw's current deal end quote. This is also coming off I believe a day ago Tony Kah did an interview with Barstool Sports wrestling podcast called Wrestling with Brandon Walker, and he was wearing a HBO Max or Max whatever they call it now hat throughout the entire interview, it would appear to me that AW does not want to go anywhere else. Warner Brothers Discovery does not want them to go anywhere else, and it would not shock me Doctor Trey that if there is a major announcement during AW all in where it is announced that AW has re upped with Warner Brothers Discovery for the next five years.

20:55 And obviously the money value will come out through the various news outlets, but it would not shock me here in the next week or two we get an announcement to AW and Warner Brothers Discovery have re upped. And like we said about a month ago when we were originally talking about this and negotiad she negotiated window coming to an end, and some rumblings of Warner Brothers Discovery maybe going in different directions with the NBA. We were ruining this on. We were cheering this on. Warner Brothers Discovery has a huge footprint and we need the number two promotion in the United States to remain on a really strong network. So this is a great thing for professional wrestlings fans. Doctor Trey, how do you interpret this latest news in regards to AW and their discussions were Warner Brothers Discovery.

21:40 No, I think it's a it's a great move on both parties fronts. I think they're both parties want to make get a deal done. Warner Bros. Are of course making that, you know, making that offer right before the window expired, and then you know, AW kind of pushing it off because that gives them a little bit of a leverage to kind of tweak it a little bit they want to, but neither party really he wants to go anywhere. I mean, if you look at the numbers, like aw's one of the highest rate of programs that you know, WBD has out there. If they're making offers that are quote quote you know double the last deal, that shows that there's growth in the company and believability in the company. So I think it's a good move on both parts. And I think Tony con SamArt just trying to you know, play you know, hold off on the announcement to all in Weekend because once again, that would be just more you know, media coverage on this as well. If you're like, damn, they got five years and three hundred and fifty million or some whatever crazy number it is, people are gonna taking notice of that.

22:41 So and it's good for other wrestling companies too. You look at the MLW's of the world, those other companies that are the impact wrestling of the world. If AW is getting this kind of money, that shows other networks that's a viable product to put on their network to draw more viewers in and that can help out everybody else below AW as well. Yeah, we need AW to remain on a strong network. So I have a feeling that gets announced this this Sunday Doctor Track. I feel like something's in the work here. I don't think Tony Kom puts on a MAX hat during an interview for no reason. Yeah, it would be really really bad negotiating with, you know, some other entity if you're wearing the competitions. It's like the college kid trying to sign his letter of an tent while wearing another college's hat. You know, you just don't do that. And it's you don't take your wife to dinner start staring at other women, you know, that's kind of that would be kind of the thing. It is like, I'm wearing the MAX hat, but I'm really really eyeballing how good ESPN looks right now.

23:39 Yeah, exactly. It's Yeah, the news comes out that they've signed with yeah another network, Home and Garden probably now, and he was wearing a MAX act just to pay tribute to them. That would be very weird. Over the last couple of weeks, months, even years that are the young Bucks are a very hotly discussed topic amongst wrestling fans. You're either a Young Bucks fan or I feel like a Young Bucks hater. I'm in the middle when it comes to the Young Bucks, so I guess I'm the anomaly in this entire thing. I feel like you either ride with them pretty hard or you dislike them pretty hard, especially basically what happened two years ago at Brawl Out in Chicago Noise and there's been a lot of discussion lately in regards to their contract. They have a, according to reports, a similar deal like brack Lesner has where they work a limited amount of dates, and aw was keeping them off television for a period of time so that they can keep those dates for the rest of the year. I think Meltzer had a report out there there or Alvarez had a report out there that they would be basically wrestling every week or on the show every week for the rest of this year, which doesn't sound like a Lessner deal to me. Most recently, they defended the tag team titles against the Acclaim on last week's Dynamite, and that was the first time they defended the titles since they won the championship. It was actually the first time the AW tag team titles were defended since Revolution in Sting's retirement match, which is just wrong and bizarre, especially for a company that prided itself on having a strong tag team division. Nonetheless, I saw an

25:11 interview with MGF recently where he said that fans should appreciate the Young Bucks more, that if it wasn't for the Young Bucks and obviously a cast of other characters, that there would be no AW, that there would no be alternative. That wrestlers today want to be making the money that they are, that the business want to be as strong as they are, and that got me wondering. Dutch trailer, I was like, all right, we're gonna be headed into an AW all in podcast. We're gonna be talking about AW for the entire show. With everything that we've heard in the New Grapevine, the news we see on the screen, their impact and professional wrestling. Where do you stand when it comes to the appreciation level for both Nick and Match Acts and the Young Bucks. It's an interesting question. I've never really thought about it until I saw THEMJF comments because I'm kind of with you, kind of always been neutral on the Young Bucks, Like because to me while when they first got on the scene, I was like, Oh, they're kind of a Hardy Boys knockoff, and then it was kind of like, Oh, they're They're cute, they do some cool things. They do a lot of things I dislike, but there's a lot of things I do like about them. So I guess I'm with you.

26:19 Like I guess I'm an anomaly. I land kind of in the middle of them. I will say that, you know, for the younger tag teams coming up on the scene, the young Bucks are a huge influence on them, so I you know, and without them and Kenny and and Hangman and Cody, we probably don't have an aw right now. So like, I appreciate their contributions to the world of professional wrestling, even though some of the contributions aren't really my cup of tea. But for the most part, you know, I don't think you know a lot of the wrestlers that are out there in their early twenties, they're a huge The Bucks are a huge influence on the who they are as performers. So I got to give them a lot of credit for that, for influencing a young generation of wrestling talent.

27:07 So I appreciate them. I appreciate everything that they've done for professional wrestling. I completely agree with them JF. If it wasn't for them and the rest of the elite, there would be no AW, there would no be all, there would be no alternative. I don't think professional wrestling would have been as hot as it is right now if there was no AW pushing we to be better and make some very important creative changes and the way that they handle their product. So I do feel like that they've revolutionized the business, and I think that they know what is best for the business to a degree. This is the part where the appreciation level for the young bucks kind of gets a bit murky. So they understand that we need a legit number two, that we need a legit alternative and professional wrestling. However, when you go back to brawl Out two years ago and that situation takes place and it's all over the internets, highly discussed, people are suspended, people are injured, and it puts a spotlight on AAW in both the good and a bad sense.

28:12 I think more of a good sense because it's like, oh man, I want to see what they do next now, And I thought the entire way that AW handled that situation from a wrestling perspective was incredibly poor. How once cmpunk came back to the company that they did not capitalize on the real life tension will forever irk me in the way that WWE botched the Invasion angle in two thousand and one. The best type of storyline feud care for a match is when there's a little bit of a gray area of whether or not are they telling the truth? Do they really not like one another or do they like one another? And to me, to have that there would have made so much money for the company capitalized on and it would have been what is quote best for business. It's funny because two years later, one of the best feuds, if not the best feud in professional wrestling, is exactly what we were looking for with the Elite and seem Punk and it involves c and Punk and Drew McIntyre. There is reportedly in what Drew McIntyre is saying in interviews and who knows if this is kfab or not if it's legititer storyline legit beef and hatred between the both of them, and it seems like it's more obviously on Drew McIntyre's part rather than CM Punk's part. I don't think Punk gives two shits.

29:31 But those two guys, including Seth Wrong's I'll throw him in there as well, can put away personal animosity and dislike and disdain that we believe on the outside looking in, and that's a huge asterisk in this entire thing. Believe that exists and have it portray it out on the screen makes people so much more excited and intrigued to take a look at it that way. And to me, I think the biggest hit in the Young Bucks career is obviously aw All in twenty eighteen, excuse me, twenty eighteen running with that and the beginning of the birth of aw The biggest miss in their career will forever be not capitalized on what took place of Brawl out back in twenty twenty two. So while I appreciate them, and I've always appreciated them, there are parts of me that it's like, what's with these guys? Because were according to what I see, Punk wanted to do business. The elite did not want to do business. So it's like, m there's a little bit of smoke, there's a little bit of fire. You hear out there. You either ride really hard with the Young Bucks behind the scenes or you don't ride very hard with the Young Bucks behind the scenes as well. So they are very similar to seeing Punk a very intriguing element in professional wrestling Doctor Trey.

30:49 Oh wait, I mean, I mean probably the most polarizing tag team of all time. It's weird right now we're here to have all in and we're having yet I don't want to say another Bucks FTR match because the acclaim was sprinkled into it. But the FTR was a big part of all that stuff. When you know, Dynamite and Collision were kind of split, and you know, you had the Punk side and you had the Elite side, and and we were sitting here going why can't they put this together? And we get that six man tag with Omega and the Bucks against Punk and FTR. But yet here we are where we're having FTR in the Bucks, and it's it is a huge myss that we never got that. I mean, to me, it's it's reminiscent also the fact that like we never got Becky Lynch and Ronda Rousey won on one. You couldn't tell if there was real life animosity or not, like it was that gray area, Like is there a little bit of jealousy on Becky's part or Ronda's part, Like the fact that we never got that match, you know, is right there with we've never Like I'll tell you that it's below the fact we never got punk and Omega punk in the Bucks any kind of combination of that following what happened through after brawl out, Like it's a huge miss.

32:10 But and that's what I kind was saying earlier, like there are things the Bucks have done that change the industry for the better, you know, I mean really being one of the first acts to get their T shirts into major retailers without having the WW branding behind it is incredible. Like the way they market it and merchandised themselves is the blueprint for what all the independent talents around the world are doing now. But I do feel like sometimes that they get a little butt hurt and they hold onto that, and they hold onto the animosity like a little bit too long, like you said, like maybe see I'm Punk and Drew McIntyre hate themselves or hate each other, but I tend to think that they're able to work. I mean, if you're gonna a damn sure match. You gotta trust the guy a little bit not to really physically damage you. Maybe it's a work, Maybe it's a shoot SETH and Punk, Maybe it's a work.

33:10 Maybe shoot. The fact that we knew there was real life heat between the Bucks and CM Punk and the Elite and CM Punk and to a degree, anybody who's associate to see MP Punk and we never got to see him play out just shows that, Look, they're grown men, but in this industry at times, you can be a little childish and not do what's best for business. And that's, like you said, like that's the biggest miss I think they've had, because if they had ever had that match or had some kind of combination of that, that would have blown the roof off any these other shows that we've covered over the last five years. For AW, AW needed that period, They needed that storyline, The fans wanted it to play out, and they never capitalized it on a company, and they were think there was so much animosity, legit animosity that it never played out.

33:55 I mean, Bret and Sean were able to do business and there was a ton of animosity that played out, and that's what brought so much intriguing to w ninety six and ninety seven for that specific feud, and it's like they really couldn't do business. And what's funny is the only time they actually did business around that whole Elite Cmpunk storyline, Doctor Trey was the tag team match at Dynasty to crown the new champions, the ladder match with FTR and the Young Bucks, and they aired the footage with Jack Perry, and that brought Jack Perry back like that was the only time. And that's why that like left a really bad taste in my mouth because one airing of that footage was so lame. It made Jack Perry look like crap. And I still attest to that one and two and it's like, this is so lame that because he did an interview with Ariel Hllani, you know, ripping the company apart, that now you want to capitalize on a real life situation that could have made you a ton of money that now everybody just kind of like rolls their eyes at you that you're doing this now.

34:49 Yeah, and not to mention like you do it right when you're wrestling. Arguably the other the other greatest tag team of the world in FTR who are friends with them punk So then it's like you're just you're thumbing your nose at some of your employees to spite somebody who's no longer there. So it is a little The pettiness at times that the Bucks have is their biggest drawback, where their mind for wrestling and marketing is their biggest strength. Yeah, I mean to give them credit, there were reportedly they were saying that they did not want to do that and thought like a sleeping dog should lie there, but they still went through with it, and they said what they did during promos, and obviously there is there's some real life to it that played out. So the appreciation level of the un Bucks that's there. I would say, like I seventy five percent appreciate them, Doctor Trey, and like twenty five percent, I'm like, yeah, these guys are are kind of like jackasses.

35:47 Yeah, that's about where I'm at. Like I said, like you and I kind of both land in the middle when it comes to the Bucks. And but seventy five percent positive, twenty five percent negative. I think they've done way more good for the business than they have agreed bad things. And I think a lot of people could sit there on the same level. It's like see them punk as well, so very polarizing figures. You know, there's always like, man, I really really like these guys, and that's what I like with the Young Bucks. But it's that man, they could be dicks too or miss a lot of business. And that was Shawn Michaels. That was Shawn Michaels back back in the day as well. So appreciation level for the Young Bucks. Feel free to chime in at SRTU podcast on Twitter or Facebook dot com slash serialto show excuse me x no no longer Twitter, rip Twitter. Finally, Doctor Trey, Let's get to our aw all. In preview predictions, it comes to us this Sunday from Wembley Stadium in London, England.

36:36 As you and I record this, there are ten announced matches. We will see if they will expand that card like they typically do as time goes on. Let's get to the pre show match here as Chris Statlander and Stokely Hathaway take on Willow Knight and Gallant Tomo hero Ege. The winning team will choose the stipulation of the match between Night and Gale and Statlander at aw All out. I like this build for this match because I think it's hilarious the way that Sookely hath Way is reacting to this all. Nonetheless, I'm gonna go with Nightingale and Tomohroe getting the victory, and I just have a feeling that like Stokely Hathaway is going to be dangling in a shark cage above the ring or something. Yeah, it's hard to pick against Nightingale and Ishi when Stokely's a match, I will say, like, Stokely's one of my favorite guys to watch. I love Stokely Hathaway and I used to not like him, but you know, manager appreciation love. I guess I'm taking Eeshi and Nightingale as well, just because I do kind of want see Stokely hanging above the ring or a in a cage somewhere and just running his mouth the entire time.

37:38 Next match here is timeless Tony Store. I'm taking on the Glamour and Ryan May for the aw Women's World Championship, Doctor Trey, who do you like in this one? Man? This one's tricky for me just because, like this has been one of my favorite bills of a woman's match in history. I've really enjoyed it adding in Mina into the mix again here at the end. It has been made a little interesting as well. That I mean, but from a I mean a turn standpoint, I mean Mariah May with that turn that may have been one of the greatest turns in women's wrestling. I think I'm gonna take Mariah May. I'm this one's I mean, it's literally flip of a coin for me, because I can see Tony having a feud with Mercedes Monet down the road.

38:23 But I think I'm gonna take Mariah May and then making her another main event player in the women's division. So I'll take Mariah May getting the win. I like you, I'm taking the glamor Maria May as well. I think you don't do this build. You don't have her win the tournament, you don't have this turn if if your objective is not to make her a star, and I think it would be a very big missed opportunity if they don't have her win the championship over Mariah excuse me, over Tony Storm at all in to really capitalize and solidify her as a big name, as a big stars, as someone to keep an eye on moving forward, So I'm gonna take the glamor of Mariah May get in the victory and also and win the aw Women's World Championship. I thought this story line has been very good the length of it. I thought it started out once the turn happened, very very strong. I would say since the turn, it's been a little bit stagnant, and that's just because that turn was so red hot and amazing that it kind of overshadowed everything else. I really was hoping that it would continue to ascend upwards, and I didn't feel like it went down. I just feel like it just kind of plateaued and stayed the same the whole way through. Next match, here is Jack Perry defending the AWT and T Championship in a coffin match against Darby Allen. There's been a lot of reports about Darby Allen right now Doctor Trey that the expectation he run the Royal Rampage match during Blood and Guts, so he has a title match at AW Grand Slam at the end of September. There's a lot of discussion right now that he is set for an aw World Championship title run and that could take place as early as Grand Slam where he wins the championship. I can

39:56 see him being AW world champion, I don't see it right now, and he is undefeated in coffin matches. There's reports out there that sing maybe making appearance at AW all In as well. I'm gonna take Darby Allen to win the T and T Championship. Doctor try see im. This be one of the few ones we disagree on. I think I'm gonna take Jack Perry just because you know they're they're hyping out that Darby's undefeated in these coffin matches. Darby's getting hyped up for all time. I just don't think he needs the T and T title, And I don't think you make a big deal about Jack Perry redesigning it if you're gonna take that belt right back off of him. So I'm gonna take Jack Perry getting to win. The only reason why I say that, Dot Tray, I would agree with you if there was no pay per view in two weeks. I would not be shocked if this match happens at all out and he drops the title back to Jack Perry.

40:43 Yeah, I mean it wouldn't surprise me either, but to me, like once again. You're trying to lift Jack Perry up even more so let him win in the biggest event there is. Next match here is Mercedes Manet defending AWTBS Championship against Doctor Bird Baker d m D Doctor Trey, who like this one man there? Once again, this is a kind of a tricky one for me. Britt just got suspended. Mercedes maybe not worth the money they paid her. So I'm kind of like, I don't know who the lesser of two evils is. This is like Trump and Harris for me, I don't know which one is worse. So I think I'm gonna take I think I'm gonna take Mercedes just because of the Camil factor and that could be the excuse as to why Brent loses. So I think I'll take Mercedes Bonet right now.

41:30 I'm gonna take Mercedes Monet as well. And I'm gonna use the old trick that we've done here in the history of the Silrito Show, and that was the go home show on Dynamite. Doctor Burt Baker got the upper hand on Mercedes Monet. So I do feel like Mercedes Bone retains the championship with aw all in and remained the aw TBS champion next match. Here's the Casino Gauntlet match for a future aw World Championship match. Orange Casside as the number one spot, so I think he's the last one in there. Kyle O'Riley, Mark Briscoe, Hangman at In Paige Evil Know, even though he was taken out on Dynamite, They've all been announced for the match. I guess seventeen other people are set to be in the match. I think it's a twenty two person match. This is a really fun match, the Casino Gauntlet match, going back to the Dynamites that they've had this match, so I'm excited for this one. I think Hangman Adam Page wins this match Doctor Trey and wins a future aw World Championship match, which I don't know if it's set for all out or not, but I'm gonna have Hangman Adam Page get the victory.

42:26 Here is this hedging your bet for the main event. For all out or the main event for all in? Yeah, potentially potentially. Because I'm with you, I'm taking Hangman Page even though Orange is coming in last, and that you know, typically for me would be kind of like Orange doesn't lose very often so, but I still kind of want see Hangman Page get back into the title picture because I think this, this new version of him as a world champion or World Champion contender is a much better version than the one we had a couple of years ago. Next match, here is Christ Jericho defending the FTW Championship against Hook in a last chance match for the FTW Championship.

43:06 If Hook loses, he can no lever no longer challenge for the FTW Championship for as long as Christ Jericho is champion. Doctor Trey, who do you like in this one? Uh? Well, let's see. I think I'm gonna take Hook just because that's his dad's belt, So I think Tass still actually has proprietary ownership of that belt. So I'll take Hook because otherwise Tas may never get his property back. Yeah, I'm gonna take Hook as well. I don't think Jericho goes in this feud with a young star to put himself over at aw all in and now if he does win and it doesn't make sense, this clip of me should be cut and we'll talk about on next week's show. But I'm gonna take Hook winning back the FTW Championship as well. Next match here is the Patriarchy defending the AW World Trios Championship in a four way London Ladder match against the Bang Bang Gang, House of Black and POC, Claudio Cassagnoli and Willer Yuda. This is potentially got to be a show sealer, Doctor Tray, I'm really hyped for this one. I'm excited to build for this has been pretty decent. Uh. With that said, Ladders, Christian Cage, I'm going to take the Patriarchy to retain the AW World Trios Championship.

44:16 That's interesting because I've been torn on this one because I could also see them losing in him blaming kill Switch for it because you know, mother Wayne has possession of the third title. And by the way, is Pac in the Black Is there still a Blackpool Combat Club? And if so, is PUC in the BCC. He is not, He's not in the BCC. They do still exist. I just we're just I guess we're just waiting for Max to come. Back, okay, and then I really want to pick the Bang Banggang. So just just out of pure joy, I'm picking the Bang Banggang just because there's still one of my favorite things to watch in AW even though House of Black is right below them. So I just because it's all in it's it's whim and Jay White's in the match. I'm gonna take the Bang Bang Gang.

45:03 Jay White's actually not in the match. It's Juice and the Guns. Jay White shows. Damn Still, I'm gonna take the Bang Bang Gang. Just be different, No, Jay White. I guess it's supposed to be coming back from injury here, so hopefully he's back here soon. Next match is the Young Bucks defend the AW World Tag Team Championship in a three way match against FTR and The Acclaim Doctor Trey. Who are you liking this one? I am taking the Acclaimed just because I think the Bucks and FTR already established as top tag teams. The Acclaimed the hottest act in pro wrestling like a year and a half ago, and then kind of fell off because of just the way the show's been booked. I think this is a way to re establish him as a top act and get the tag titles back on the scene. So I'm taking the Acclaimed.

45:47 See, I thought this was going to be a shocking mentioned by me, but I'm taking the Acclaimed as well. I think that the forgotten tag team in this match, and there's been a lot of focus on the Bucks in FTR, and this is a good opportunity for them to slide in and take the titles away from the Young So I am taking the acclaim to win the AW World Tag Team Championship again. Then that takes us to the AW American Championship matches. MJF Defense against will Ospray. I'm really looking forward to this one. The build has been really good. I think everybody is thinking it's gonna be will Ospray in the home country. I'm gonna take MJF to win and retain, and I think he wins and retains thanks to Kyle Fletcher and Don Kallus. So I'm gonna take MJF to win this one. Doctor Try very interesting. I like that pick I was playing on taking MJF. Anyway, I like your storytelling with it, so it is a little sprided. I'm kind of riding with you on this one. But you know my concern is, now, that's what that'd be the three losses for Ospray in like just in a short amount of time. But uh, I think it makes sense. I think you have ospray come back and get revenge later on. You got to build up some more reason, uh more obstacles for the for the good guy to overcome here. So I'm gonna take MJF as well.

46:59 And that takes us to the main out here title versus crew match for the aw World Championship Swerve Strickland defense against Brian Danielson. Who do you like in this one? Doctor try? You know, the funny thing was when this whole career title thing came up, I didn't quite understand it because you know, if Danielson loses, I mean Swerves the guy that retired him. I then forgot that Swerves from Washington, and so is Brian Danielson. So they've had a lot of they have a lot of history from coming up in the same area. I'm taking Swerve. I just don't think. I don't see why you throw this out there. If if you're gonna have Brian Anson retained, and then from everything we're reading, like, you know, he's so beat up, he's he's very limited in the amount of appearances he can do in the ring. Anyway, I think now is the time to go ahead and kind of shut it down for a while and at some point he'll get back in the ring. I don't care what anybody says.

47:48 He's gonna get back to the ring at some point, but for the time being, it makes sense to make this move. So I got Swerve retaining the title as well, or maybe not as well. I don't know. I'm I have Swerve winning. This is a really, really tough match to call. This is a hard one to call, and I've been going back and forth about this because the interviews that Doctor Trey's pointing out, the articles that are coming out there makes you think that Daniel Brian is retiring this Sunday at Wembley Stadium. That's how he wants to write off of the Sunset. He is set to have surgery. He is currently working without a contract with AW but he insists that he'll be coming back. Prior to all this, the reports were that Brian was going to come back on a part time schedule, that he was just retiring as a full time wrestler, not completely altogether going out on the way that he wanted to go. I do believe that Brian Danielson does want to put over young talent and up and coming talent like Swerve Strickland Swerp.

48:42 Strickland is really on an amazing climb over the last year and a half to two years in AW and it's been very, very fun to watch. However, the factor that plays a role iness to me, Doctor Trey is very similar to how Samo Joe won the championship at World's End last year over mjf Leave that Tony Kahan wants to put the AW World Championship one way or another on Brian Danielson. I don't think that they want him to retire on Sunday. I think they want him to work a part time schedule when he can in twenty twenty five and beyond. I think Brian Danielson wins the match on Sunday becomes the new AW World Championship Champion. But I do think he has a short reign with the title, and I think that Rain potentially ends at all out with Hangman Adam Paige if that match takes place and that leads us back in the Swerve in Hangman Page or he ends up dropping it at Grand Slam against Darby Allen. I do think it's going to be a short title. Rain. I don't think that this is his last wrestling match that we ever see Brian Danielson wrestle in, because if he is so beat up as he is, then why are they letting him go out there to wrestle on Sunday? Why would any doctor allow that to happen. So I don't discredit that he is banged up. I don't think he's as banged up where his life's on the line. And this is a very tricky situation. So I'm gonna go with Brian Danielson.

50:01 And the only reason why I'm going with Brian Danilson Doctor Trey is once again I think Tony Kahn wants to put the championship on him. So we are split here. Swerve Strickland, Doctor Trey has I Brian Danielson, and I'm really really looking forward to this match on Sunday. No, I'm really looking forward to too. And everything you brought up are great point and those are things I was concidered because I was like, man, it would be really weird for Brian Danielson to retire and have never won a title in aw even from going for even if it's from full time to part time. So it's a valid reason if you're gonna do it make the switch, but you know, it's just one of these things. It was like, I don't know. It is a very This card has a lot of matches on it, at least that are basically fifty to fifty tossed ups that you can see it going either way, which is one thing you and I love about pro wrestling is when we don't know what's going to happen, we love it even more. Yeah.

50:54 Absolutely, And that's a good thing that AW has done is unpredictable matches heading into a big event. And we'll be looking forward AW all in as it takes place this Sunday, and we will recap and review it for you all on next week's show on August the twenty ninth. With that set, let's get a couple plugs and sponsors out of the way. You can download show every Thursday or Friday. Really got ridu dot com, wrestle chatingnet on x and the Stale Ridda Show iTunes feed don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us clim the charts on iTunes or anywhere else you download the show. You can follow us individually on x for myself at SRTU Jeff and for Dot Trey Franklin at The Doctor Trey and of course don't forget to follow the show on x at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what's going on the oneful world of Dot Trey Franklin this week? Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on x FKA, Twitter at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook, Doctor Tray Franklin. Be sure check out Rocket City Championship Wrestling. They've had a big shows past Saturday, Spartan Championship Wrestling. They got a big show coming up this Saturday, which I'm hoping to be a part of foot permitting. But most importantly, just get out there and check out your local independent wrestling scene. Because fifty percent of aw's roster was on the Independence like less than five years ago, and then you look at NXT and a lot of those guys are on the Independence just three or four years ago. So get out there see your local guys before they hit the big time, and forget who you are and refuse to sign your poster for less than twenty bucks.

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