AEW All In & NXT Heatwave preview + Sami Zayn snaps | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #863

0:00 It's still real to be damaged in it! [Music] Welcome everybody! Welcome to this week's This Still Rolo Show, Episode numbers 863 for August 27, 2026. This is your NXT Heat Wave and AWOL in London. Preview and Predictions Edition of SRTU. I am one after the show I am Jeff Peck joined every single week for the coast along with Dr. Tray Franklin. Dr. Tray, it has been a very oddly quiet week so far, my friend. Yeah, nothing to talk about, let's just go to the show right now. We're good. With that being said, until next week, for Dr. Tray Franklin, I'm Jeff Peck. Is it weird to me that the biggest news of the week is that Nigel McGinnis gets to wrestle and winbly stadium against a member of the Blackpool Combat Club and it's not Daniel Bryan or Bryan Danielson? Wow, and you called them the Blackpool Combat Club.

1:08 Yeah, I guess the artist firmly known as the Blackpool Combat Club. Yeah, I guess that may be the biggest news. There was nothing like Earth Shattering from a news front that's going to lead the show. It's going to be a lot of looking back at some of the stuff on SmackDown Raw and XT8W this week. I'll bring this up when we start previewing AWOL in London this weekend. I look at AWOL in as their WrestleMania. I mean, they're in Wembley, right? I mean, Wembley had 80,000 people in there. I think they'll have close to 50, I want to say, in just a couple of nights. And for a Go-Home edition of AW Dynamite, it was one of the most like just walking to the end of, yeah, Ho-Hom, let me get to the end of two hours edition of AW Dynamite I've seen in some time. And that is typically the trend when they go overseas, Dr. Trey. So they were in Glasgow last night or yesterday afternoon. And I don't know about you. Do you DVR the wrestling shows at all with your dreams or what? Yeah, I basically usually have to watch because I mean, my schedule's kind of crazy right now. So it's kind of like watching it when I'm traveling or you're driving somewhere, so I'll watch an hour here, go do something, jump back in, watch another hour type thing. Yeah, and I feel like most wrestling fans are that way. I DVR every wrestling show

2:42 that I can outside of obviously it, Ron and XD. So I always, and I don't think I've ever brought it up here on the show, but I will have to DVR the show that airs after Dynamite and then just to be sure because the last several weeks they've gone about two and a half hours, even though it's two hour time frame that they put it down, even beyond that. So like I had to record two episodes of impractical jokers last night. And I was about 15 minutes behind the show. And as I was watching live, I'm getting closer towards the end. They're in Swarth Strickland Jungle Boy. It wrapped up just around the two hour mark, which it hasn't done in weeks. And I was like, oh my god, I can't believe that was, that was the go home edition heading in all in. Like there's going to be collision on Saturday, but Dynamite and collision are booked completely differently on a weekly basis. A.W. Dynamite is more action and like A.W. Star versus A.W. Star. Collision has its fair share of action, but they love doing squash matches in it. And it's on a Saturday night. I was like, I can't believe that was the go home edition.

3:52 So yeah, that was, it's been a, been a quiet week. It's like the way that summer's going out, I guess. And I would not expect that at least from A.W. Yeah. And and maybe two degree, I get it. I mean, some of these other, I mean, WW usually there go home shows. They'll usually have something big in the main event, but they try to protect their stars. You want to make sure that, hey, my top guy is going to be able to be at Wembley Stadium. I mean, that's why we saw the Omega Osprey, you know, one wing angel through, or one wing angel through the table. Last week. Yeah. And not that much this week is God forbid that goes horribly awry. Now your main events blown up. You know, so I get it. They're trying to protect the show, but yeah, but you kind of got to sell me on the show, like not really that hard. I mean, because it is like you mentioned, very similar to to WW WrestleMania for A.W. But I mean, if your main event matches are Osprey and Omega and then Monet and Nightingale and you're closing it out with an angle for the six man, the Trio's championship. I mean, I hope that God, we're getting a new day payoff in this because otherwise, that's kind of an odd way to end, you know, your go home show right before your biggest event of the year. Yeah. And when Osprey says that Kenio Megadon traveled to Glasgow, I'm like, okay, missed opportunity. And it's I've somewhere thought it says

5:25 you did. Like if last week's show was the go home edition heading into all in, I'd be like, that was a great way, great send off to head into all in weekend. I mean, what they basically accomplished last night was the continental challenge cup finals being solidified, maybe a TBS championship challenger for my world. More entrance into the casino battle royal. The announcement of the Trio's casino royal wasn't made today by Tony Khan during his conference call. I mean, I know you're implying that the swerve stuff is to push forward the Trio's and it's like, I don't really know if that accomplished it because he shook hands with jungle boys. So it was a jungle boy and and lucha source going to be his partner. Like, I don't even know. You have the angle with a Willow night in Gellimer, Sadie's, Monet. Willow has is dealing with a legit broken hand.

6:21 Just odd very odd and I don't know. The international shows are usually timed to two hours perfectly and that was what we got on Wednesday night. So I mean, we will certainly talk more about all in London here and just a little bit. We'll go through the card and it's a big week, but yeah, all in all, it was it was kind of quiet on the new storyfront, but the storylines is what's taking focal points. So I think probably most fans would prefer that anyway. So let's start with Friday night's Smackdown, Dr. Trey. We had Sammy Zane snapping during these highly anticipated from our show standpoint, CM Punk versus Kevin Owens match to close out Smackdown this past Friday. Last week we spent the show asking whether Kevin Owens should beat CM Punk for the WWE Championship Toronto. We got our answer, Punk retained, but somehow Sammy Zane became the biggest story coming out of the match.

7:21 This is what you and I predicted. We figured if Punk was going to retain, Sammy would be involved somehow. Sammy tried to help Owens win the championship, Owens refused to use the title as a weapon. So Sammy Blast had Owens with it instead. Punk retained it and Sammy completely snapped on both guys while screaming that Punk stole the championship from him. Why this work? This wasn't simply Sammy Zane turning heel. Sammy believes he's justified. He thinks Punk has something that belongs to him. He tried to help his best friend become champion and when Owens rejected him, Sammy viewed it as another betrayal. That's much more interesting than Sammy suddenly becoming a generic bad guy. So where is this going? Sammy now has issues with Punk and Owens. Owens still has a legitimate reason to want another championship match. Punk suddenly has two extremely personal challenges around him.

8:05 Punk Owens could very easily become Punk Owens Zane without feeling enforced. So the big questions coming out of Friday night's Smackdown Dr. Dre did Sammy Zane just become the most interesting person in the WWE Championship picture? I mean, he's kind of been the most interesting person in this stuff for the last couple of months. We didn't know which way they were going to go with it. We didn't like you and I at Ballsettar said, hey, the last real good guy angle is really you're being well done. And the way his character is gone is really reminiscent of what they did with Drew McIntyre a few years ago where Drew basically was like his attitude was he hadn't turned heel. Everybody else had turned against him. And so it's another take on that kind of advantage. But anytime you get your best friend involved, it's compelling television. And you and I were talking last week and leading up to this about that real life tension between Owens and Punk.

9:12 And now you're involving Sammy Zane in the story. It makes it much more personal on different levels. So yeah, it's Sammy's the most interesting person on TV right now, which is good for business and good for people like us who love Sammy Zane. So where should this ultimately go? Punk versus Sammy, Owens versus Sammy or Punk versus Owens versus Sammy? I want Punk Owens Sammy. That's I want to triple threat. I think Kevin Owens is better in that neutral area where he's not really good, he's not really a bad guy. I'll outly stone cold back in the heydick where he's just running around stunning everybody you never knew what he was going to do. I think Kevin's better in that unpredictable role. And then let Sammy lean still into his heel side and Punk be the baby face. That's that's how I would kind of portray this whole thing. Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. And I wonder when they pull this trigger. Do you think on Friday night's edition of Smackdown? We come out of it where they've announced for Sunday nights main event Punk versus Owens versus Sammy or is this something that could be shelved in a couple of weeks for an edition of Smackdown or do you push it even further to early October when money in the bank is new in New Orleans Louisiana?

10:35 So that'd be five, five, six weeks to money in the bank. Is that what we're looking at? About that. I'm trying to get I'm like, can you do six weeks of television to build up to this match? I mean, I'm sure you could. I mean, you can always tie another baby face into the mix to help team up with Punk against you know or punk and Owens against Sammy and Gunther. You know kind of like what they did earlier this year with Sammy and Gunther against Punk and Rhodes. Sunday nights main event so stacked. I just don't really want this just shoved in. I think this is something I think there's enough meat on this to really run it out the full six weeks and save it for money in the bank. So I think that that would be my call would be kind of saved that triple threat match for money in the bank. And then plus after that you're getting ready for survivor series. So if Punk comes out on top, you can go immediately into Punk's survivor series storyline with whoever that is.

11:43 And I wonder if the way that you could kind of hold off on this for a little bit, Dr. Tray, saying like two weeks time Owens wants revenge against Sammy. That's a number one contender's match. Sammy Owens battled it out. That match ends up being a big you know double disqualification, interference from Punk again or whatever. And then that sets up four weeks later, three weeks later, however the time matches out for the three of them to wrestle that money in the bank because that was the thing that I didn't love about Owens versus Punk is I wanted to see a wait for big PLE. I understand now why they did it creatively. But I think you get away with it for a little bit where you set up a number one contender's match in a couple weeks. It does not have to be at Sunday Night's Main Event or maybe you do Owens versus Sammy in a number of contenders match at Sunday Night's Main Event as well. And then that gets you to money in the bank a little bit more. So this definitely has a little bit more meat on the bone for it. But I ultimately think that payoff needs to take place at a PLE especially since that you just did Punk versus Owens on free TV last week on Smackdown.

12:51 Yeah, I mean you can come out this Friday night and have Kevin confront Sammy. You know why'd you do that? I want to win it the right way and same as like I was trying to help you but you're too dumb to see how I was trying to help you blah blah blah then you know they come out make the match for the following you know to me I would do it on Smackdown. And plus it just keeps people wanting to tune into Smackdown. You know when you get punk and you know I mean see when we get Owens and Zane on free TV in a number one contenders match people are going to check that out and then that night somebody pisses off CM Punk he gets involved you know thinking he's doing the right thing but instead of his screws everything up and then now you build that out to money in the bank. I think that's kind of the logical choice once again I don't really want any of these guys getting shoehorn into you and I talked about last last week Sunday night's main event or Saturday is it Sunday or Saturday by the way it's Sunday it's Saturday it's Saturday it's been about put it's on Sunday and they're calling Sunday.

13:48 Okay, that's made about okay but it means that Sunday night main event cards so stacked right now I just don't want this rivalry this is where this potential could go to get shoved in and get lost in the mix. Keep it special on Smackdown for a few weeks to build it up to money in the bank. Yeah it's got to be some special but I'm digging what they're doing and it's three guys that I really enjoy watching and I think I mean the Smackdown main event picture for the men's side is so clean right now that it's exciting to see from a viewer's standpoint because you have an understanding of where things can go you've got punk Owen Zane right now doing stuff you've got Cody and Orton doing some stuff there's some rumblings that maybe big Drew is on his way back if he is does he go back to Smackdown does he land on Raw could we see Damien Priest get back into the main event level picture could we see Finn Bauer get involved you know there was some tension going on there between Damien Priest and our truth this past Friday night could that lead to a baller priest feud and I mean it just reminds me of like the good old days of Smackdown where it was they had a very good upper card that they just mix and match and play it around with and it made the show very very enjoyable where there's no question marks like okay well who do they put punk with next there may have been that for period of time but it's been quickly resurfaced to be like okay so this is the direction that they're going on and that makes things very very fun on the Smackdown side switching gears to Monday night raw

15:19 doctor trail we have some big news coming out of there we will be having the Lutra bros penta versus Ray Phoenix at the end of this number one contender's tournament to face Roman Reigns in Mexico City in early September pentan Ray Phoenix both advancing on Monday night now the Lutra brothers have to go through each other again the winner will get Roman Reigns in a world heavyweight championship match in Mexico City which is pretty enormous set of stakes for both men why I am interested in this we've seen pentan Phoenix together for years just not yet in WWE but now WWE has the opportunity to have us them as two completely separate single star stars penta feels like the bigger opportunity a personality excuse me Phoenix might give Roman the crazier match and putting these two against each other immediately create something that feels different from another standard number one contenders match pentas been booked very very strong in WWE since he's debuted Ray Phoenix he has been kind of start stop go right now he is on a great swing as the triple A cruiserweight champion he's performing on RAW he's performing on Smackdown he was on NXT even this week it's nice to see Ray back in there where for a period of time like could they like release this guy because they're not using him like is Ray Phoenix going to go what the hell was I thinking wanted to leave a w and as of right now I would hope he doesn't have those thoughts because the booking has been good oh with that center regards to pentan Ray Phoenix doctor tre who should win between the two pentan Ray Phoenix this coming Monday and which one is the more interesting challenger for Roman Reigns in Mexico City I mean I think right now it's penta on both those questions I think he's

16:56 the one that should win because he's been he's the bigger star he's the one on paper also that feels like the bigger threat you know just if you're looking at it going okay could you know which of these two guys could actually unseat Roman neither one is the odds on favor but I think if you're if you're ranking you'd be like okay pentas probably 30 percent chance of winning but Ray face be like a five you know it's just they're on different levels in their career in WWE right now and pentas the bigger star he's the bigger merchandise mover fiend at Ray Phoenix has been on a great trick Jack treason's winning the triple like cruiserweight championship but pentas already been in their continental champion he's has some really good rivalries the match with Chad Gable was great so if that's the case you know I put my money on pentas I had to pick one plus you know they can sell how these guys are brothers more on TV leading into this and then it may be coming out of it at some point we get the lucha bros and the usos at some point as well which I think would be a tag team dream match for a lot of tag team wrestling fans out there you know Vince was still around I'd be saying the reason why we're not seeing the lucha bros tag with one another is because Vince has no idea that their brothers and or tagged with each other but I have no idea what the triple H lead creative team is thinking right now other than maybe just to establish them you know they are bigger talents than deservedly so as as tag teams and there but I think they wanted to save them for a triple A show then one of them got hurt maybe pentadid and then that got scrapped but it's really nice to see

18:26 it's been a fun tournament it's a it's a nice little um granted it's both like main roster guys that are in the finals here but the fact that they were able to sprinkle some triple A guys in there it's been really cool as well and yeah to me this just screams it's going to be Roman Reigns versus pentad pentas been booked so much better uh in WWE than Ray Phoenix has I think he is the bigger star right now though I truly believe that Phoenix could be on the same level as pentadid at some point especially if he gets that pentadid like push because Phoenix is so much fun to watch on the ring but Reigns versus pentadid is got to have a big fight feel to it it's going to be to me one of those old school Monday night RAWs where the World Heavyweight Championship the WWE Championship is on the line and it's it's a challenger it's a match that we've never seen before and that leads to a lot of intrigue and into how both perform in that setting and especially in Mexico City it should make for a really really cool atmosphere and that's the expectation I'm looking forward to this match come Monday night pentadid versus Ray Phoenix uh hey you got a question for but you got a question for you before you jump into it in my head I'm already kind of picturing pentadid Roman Reigns Mexico City and in my like we love those like hometown like you know Sammy Zane Roman from a few years back in Montreal or no is that Kevin and no Sammy and Roman Montreal yeah yeah or even Rob Van Dam John Cena one night stand like do you think we get that kind of reaction where it's like 95% for one guy against the other especially when one's the underdog

20:01 like those are some memorable matchups when it's like yes all the like all on paper if they're on a neutral field it's all Roman Reigns or it was all John Cena but in this setting in this environment that crowd is going to be rocking like that's that's kind of the early vibe I get for this matchup if it goes that way of Benson Roman Reigns in Mexico City. Oh I'm totally with you I think any non United States crowd for professional wrestling is phenomenal even though like glass guy maybe that's just was the edit on the on the on the tape delay that they would dynamite on Wednesday night was not really where I hoped it was going to be comparable to other international crowds I fully expect it to be a really potentially like once in a lifetime type crowd where I think Mexico City is behind their country's hero against the unstoppable Roman Reigns and it makes for a really really fun atmosphere for all of us to watch at home so yeah I'm in agreement that I try that I think this crowd is is going to be phenomenal in Mexico City. Yeah I'm just imagining all the fans I mean it's gonna be fun watching fans do the one finger for the OTC but then do the Sarah Mieto for Penson just watching I don't know how many people are being in that building I'm guessing many probably 15,000 10,000 15 I don't know how big the arena is but to see that many people go against Roman at one time should I mean that to me it reminds me more of Cena Rob Van Dam even

21:34 more so than Sammy and Roman from a nation chamber. Yeah I love those type of atmospheres I love when we see performers in an arena or in a country that they can put on their back against the unstoppable lots because it feels like it's a thousand versus one and that one individual is someone that is really unstoppable to beat and that fits very well with the OTC one in Roman Reigns so I know we're jumping the shark here a little bit because we think it's gonna be Penta the match hasn't happened yet but I would be shocked if on what is it like September 13th it's not Penta versus Roman Reigns in Mexico City for the World Leverweight Championship. Speaking of Roman Reigns and the Bloodline Dr. Trey there was another wrinkle into the Bloodline story Royce Keys returned with Bronco Neiman Lucien Price and destroyed the Uso Solusakoa and LA Knight to close out Raw this past week.

22:21 Bronco Neiman was recently kicked out of Parrots Day Mall on AAA and we're wondering why well there's the reason why OTM is now on the main roster for Monday Night Raw. So one week after we were talking about Solo Reject in Roman and Jacob Fattu watching everything unfold there are suddenly even more people orbiting this story. I'm interested but I'm also reaching the point where WWE has to be careful that adding more people doesn't make the Bloodline story unnecessary complicated again. As I was watching this I'm like hey Dr. Trey and I were just talking about this Survivor Series War Games. This makes sense. Five on five. Now there's your five. You've got the Royce Keys OTM Solo LA Knight on one side. Take it on the Bloodline Fattu the two Uso's Roman Reigns. We just need to add one more and then all of a sudden Royce Keys is also taking out Solo and also taking out LA Knight.

23:08 The guys that he tagged with not too many weeks ago at Summerslam. So the big question I have here for you Dr. Trey is does adding Royce Keys and OTM make the Bloodline story more interesting or are we starting to add too many moving parts again? Interesting for me in the sense of I don't get it. Like I haven't figured out the path we're getting to because I don't know if Royce Keys has established himself on the main roster to be thrust into a faction leader or like I don't see Royce Keys on the level of LA Knight Jacob Fattu Solo or Roman. Maybe a notch below but I just don't think they've built enough up built up enough credibility in him. And then once again like OTM never been NXT Tag Team Champions and like they they had some good matches but they were never the featured guys so to me it's kind of a head scratching move which I guess makes it interesting by default but I don't get throwing another three guys in the mix when you really are still working on establishing where all the other guys fall so it's kind of a head scratching move for me.

24:22 I don't necessarily if I agree with the head scratching part yet I can understand your perspective. I like the added um like outside of the orbit that I did not foresee coming like I figured Royce would be back but I didn't think it would be along the lines of of having OTM at his side and I like it because it's it's just it's different from what we want to see whenever you see storylines rehash stables re re reform whether it's the NWO the four horsemen for the 800 millionth time degeneration X even um nothing is as good as the first time I think the only time I would ever say like the second go around ones the best is when the DX Army formed after the Shawn Michaels triple H run early on and then when he did the stuff with new wage outlaws and Xbox I'd still think that that's the best version of degeneration X but with that said it's like you got to make it interesting they're going back to the bloodline well how do we make it interesting well the feeling was solo is just going to fall in line like Jacob Fart too nope didn't happen LA night is getting an opportunity again to kind of run with the ball and see can he play in the sandbox with the main event players cool Royce keys was with AW a year ago figured he'd probably just be on a on a on a booking level where he was just kind of in a safe spot and and nothing like this heavy involved but here he is very heavy involved he's never been in a storyline like this a top storyline um like this and then you've got OTM who is a tag team that probably should have run at least with the NXT championship tag team

25:56 championship a couple times they've just been around their popular they're they were acting as baby faces I enjoyed their work but they just won't showcase much and now they're getting an opportunity to say see can they swim with the sharks on the raw roster in the main roster of WWE so I dig it man I do and I'm keeping an open mind because it's an extra layer that I did not see coming and they did kind of feed back a little bit more on the Jacob thought to stuff and I'm I'm starting to wonder you know is it's fought to going to be turning here is is fought to the Virgil to the Roman Reigns is million dollar man keep it right yeah man I don't know if I'd ever think of something comparing Jacob thought to the Virgil that's that's yeah how else do you do it right I mean it's like this is the guy that's under the thumb of yeah the top star I don't know I don't know who else we can I don't think you'll be signing autographs in this New York City subway system or I paid Virgil no it's it's at first I thought it'd be more like when Sean Michaels had to work for JBL that weird indentured servitude type things where like you know Sean's always kind of poking him but you know he has to do it Jacob just fell in line so in a lot of ways it the Virgil Ted D. Viosi comparison session not bad and I want to go back I'm not poo pooing the the keys OTM thing I'm just it concerns me when you debut somebody knew and then it's kind of start stop start stop they did the injury angle but

27:34 now he's just mad at everybody and like and then bring it up OTM when they really didn't get a really great run in NXT it makes me a little nervous because I mean be honest not a lot of the NXT guys have had a ton of success right away in the main roster it's just it's an interesting move in you're right we didn't see it coming I want to give it another week to kind of flesh out the layers behind it and then it's either okay I'm on board or no this is kind of jump the shark and let me go back to Smackdown and just watch Sammy Kevin and CM Punk yeah it's it's an interesting layer again a little bit unpredictable I'm happy for Royce Keys getting this opportunity and we'll see where things go it's ultimately I think this is this is a war game storyline and I wouldn't be surprised if either we do like multiple teams which would be cool or we do an LA night solo Royce Keys and Company because I think that's what they're going by Royce Keys and Company against the bloodline and we do five on five so I'm always thinking about war games now when it comes to the bloodline this time of year doctor try yeah Royce Keys and Company sounds like they sell fake Rolexes by the way yes Keys and Co I think they'll just go by what I mean it's a stable names of all time K&C the sunshine van I'm a thing went that way um but I mean is it possible we get a triple throughout war games where you have two three teams of three yeah it's what you know you do yeah like

29:08 Keys and Company LA solo and Jacob and then Roman and the Usos I mean is it's a decent company yes by the way if they if if if OTM starts doing like a crime time thing when they start selling knock off watches while walking to the ring that would be fantastic as well I was a fan of crime time I must admit I love that theme song they were just so much fun but yeah it makes you wonder where the things are going um and maybe yeah Jacob thought to eventually aligns himself with solo and Ellie and I out of this entire thing I think that would be a little bit too early for my liking but I feel like they're moving forward with that a lot quicker than I imagine I thought that this was going to be a WrestleMania storyline build on it for for Jacob for a period of time he's the he's the killer for Roman Reigns and then maybe Jacob it like like a Batista okay how about this for a comparison I said Virgil before maybe he's like the Batista to the Triple H that is Roman Reigns and you know you basically rehash that storyline 21 years later calling Batista like they did dumb Jacob's dumb and Jacob's over here and Batista was over here in a Jacob enters the rumble wins the rumble and decides he's going to be taken on Roman Reigns when Roman's like yeah go win again CM punk or something like that and we'll you know rule the world basically like he was trying to do with J.U. So not too long ago with King the Ring tournament so lots of play around here another layer on the Monday Night Raw side especially when it comes to the bloodline let's look at NXT heat heat wave this Sunday from the Bert Ogden arena in Eden's Burg Texas we've got Jada Parker versus Daddy it's submission match Miles Bourne defending and Tavion Heights defending the NXT Tag Team Championship

30:42 against Brad Bale and Ricky Smokes Zarya defending her NXT Women's North American championship Brent Sinclair defending her WWE Women's Speed Championship in a triple threat match along with Cali Armstrong where a winner takes all triple threat match that will unify both the women's North American Championship in women's Speed title Miles Bourne defending NXT North American Championship against Jackson Drake Kendall Gray defending NXT Women's Championship against Kalani Jordan and Tony D'Angelo defending NXT Championship in a fatal four way against Grayson Wall or Cruz Montana and Zilla Fah 2 overall doctor trade this feels like a very transitional NXT show to me Miles Bourne is pulling double duty to women's championship championship are being unified and Zilla Fah 2 debuted only a few weeks ago and is already challenging for the NXT Championship that's the match I most curious about because Tony D doesn't even need to be pinned to loses championship so I ask you the big question here is WWE already ready to go all the way with Zilla Fah 2 or his heat wave designed to establish him as a future champion without putting the belt on him yet?

31:46 Yeah I think he waves design to help get him over more because you mentioned Zilla hasn't been there long well technically speaking Cruz has only been there two weeks longer than Zilla you kind of got to establish both guys in this match and so for me it's more about getting Zilla that exposure getting him on that main stage, putting him like a main event guy but to me I think this is either this is for Cruz or more than anybody else so I think it's more just about let's get both these guys over put one on top as a champion let the other guy chase him because Grayson and Tony I mean those guys have been around the system for a long time and you can move them back up to the main roster haven't do something else and have them get other guys over and it'll be fine as well.

32:38 So who do you think walks out you think it's Cruz Montana? I think it's gonna be Grayson Waller. Honestly to me like you've got I think you have to kind of put the belt on one of those two guys whether it's Cruz or Zilla I just think Cruz is the more logical choice and then you can branch off into Tony and Zilla and Grayson and Cruz and like Grayson and Chase those guys you know and that way you're using the establishing H.C. guys to build up the new H.C. guys so to me it's I'm gonna lean towards Cruz more than Grayson. NXT Heat Wave airs on the CW this Sunday midday doctorate 3 p.m. East to go up against AWOL in which starts at like 11 a.m. East on Sunday speaking of AWOL in Dr. Trey the Sunday from Wembley Stadium in London England looking at the card here you've got Hangman on a page Bandito and Brodie King defending the AW World Trios Championship in an AW Trios roulette royal that includes the Bang Bang gang the demand the dogs the death writers the conglomeration and a wild card joker team man does AW love the in their tag teams on dry day L. E. L. go entering number one MJ F.

33:50 No entering number two you've got Jericho Champa Commander Mark Davis Nick Wayne and additional entrance to be announced for the casino gauntlet match for a future AW World Championship opportunity divine to minute to many defend against the brawling birds for the AW women's world team championship Kevin Knight defends the TNT championship against Arby Allen on false count anywhere match Kyle Fletcher defends the AW International Championship in a triple threat match against Ksichko Kadek and Osuke Tikeshka John Moxley defends the AW continental championship in the continental challenge cup final against Nigel McGinnis Adam Copeland and Christian Cade defend the AW World Tag Team Championship against the Young Bucks will a night and gale defense or AW women's world championship against Mercedes Monet and of course the main event Kenny Omega defend the AW World Championship against the country hometown boy himself will Osprey as I mentioned at the start of the show I wasn't a big fan of the dynamite go home show for AW's biggest event of the year four days before returning to Wembley stating my expected considerably more urgency from the company there were things I certainly liked Moxley and Claudio delivered Nigel McGinnis fighting through the ankle injury to earn Wembley against Moxley gives that match a real story Osprey's promo at the start of the show about his journey and what Sunday meets him worked as well but as an overall show it didn't make me significantly more excited for all in honestly as I mentioned before I thought last week's Omega Osprey segment did considerably more to sell me on the main event than the actual go home dynamite and that's my concern with AW heading into Sunday this card looks really good but has the build consistently made all-in-field like

35:20 AW's WrestleMania because now the matches have to deliver so I ask you this Dr. Trey did AW do enough to make all-in-field like its biggest show of the year or did the disappointing go home dynamite leave too much work for Sunday I don't know I'm gonna say I think it's fine I wasn't expecting a whole lot from done it's like I said with Osprey don't make it it'd be really hard to have you know top what happened last week Mercedes and Nightingale be really hard to top what happened in previous week I thought they did enough with kind of building the undercard to make it look on paper like one of the most well-rounded solid shows that we've had in quite some time like I'm excited for all in there's not a bad match on that card unless Maya World gets on there but outside of that every match on there has I guess Maya's my new Mercedes but yeah like there's not a bad match on that card like every every match on there I'm like man there's there's some good story lines or some good reasoning there's some good logic on paper looks like to be a stacked card so I'm actually this might be the most excited I've been about for an AW pay-per-view show and probably the last year I just think from top to bottom it's an outstanding card on paper so I don't mind I guess the letdown of Dynamite because I think they did enough the previous two weeks to kind of build it up and I agree with you I think

36:51 this is a very strong card I'm excited for the show I hope to God but we know that this is Tony Khan that they don't add like three or four more matches to make it a 14 match card and then make it an eight hour show I think all in last year in Texas was like an eight hour show like let the guys and girls just work it's so good again I'm bashing Dynamite because I really wanted some of this other stuff to to like continue forward and and really make this show stand out and look really really strong just from an outside like an outside like reading the card on paper perspective like give me that little bit more from a creative standpoint that's like man the show is going to be an absolute killer I expect it to be but I just want a little bit more from Dynamite and then the last thing I'll ask you here Dr. Trey does will Osprey have to beat Kenny Omega and leave Wembley as a W World Champion on Sunday night in London yes it's like it's I mean you and I like have talked about this since Osprey signed with AEW like this is the guy that at some point needs to be the guy carrying the ball he needs to be to steal from Cody Rhodes he needs to be AEW's QB1 and see if you can really build off this we've seen them do it with you know whether it was Darby or MJF your other guys like Swarve you know Hangman you know getting the ball and trying to see if it elevates the brand this is the guy they can see they let's see if he can elevate the brand and you're in his home country in front of 50,000 people if you're going to pull the trigger on it you need to pull it now so

38:22 to me unless they do the MJF Swarve like you and I talked about last week I think Osprey has to beat Omega in Wembley for the crowd to be happy because otherwise there might be like we talked about a little last week it might be a full-blown soccer riot if he does not walk out with the time. Yeah the closer we've gotten to the show I do feel like leaning more towards Will Osprey walking out as champion that's how the show and I don't think the MJF if he went to casino gauntlet battle oil him winning the match we're cashing in at the end of the show is the way that they will go I think from a creative state that would have more headlines but also in wrestling sometimes right I've heard this recently from someone creative that and I may have been on the unreal Netflix show that WrestleMania is like the conclusion of stories and that's where I think all in is and when you go to a show like a WrestleMania summer slam and all in you go to that show to see your heroes conquer most of the time and that's how the show should end it's in the home country for Will Osprey he should be holding up the AW world championship let the flyers streamers fly and let the crowd celebrate a victory in Wembley with one of their hometown boys who who got over the hump and did some good because Osprey has been waiting a long time I think he's been in AW now for three years contractually as a full-time star and when he signed I thought it was one of the biggest signings that they've had maybe the biggest signing that they've had since launching and he's played a backseat role to

39:52 Swarth Strickland who was on the rise and rightfully so was on the rise during that period of time he played a backseat role last year to Hangman Page breaking out and rightfully so in that period of time well this is Osprey's time right now it's been a while since they put the title on him and this is a guy that could care the company certainly into the future so I'm excited for this one Will Osprey versus Kenny Omega and this this feels like the most predictable match of 2026 right now Dr. Tray and I'm totally fine with it Will Osprey winning this match I mean that's really I mean is there another match that feels more predictable than this so far I mean everything has been hyped up for him this is like Shawn Michaels Bret Hart WrestleMania Army and match the video packages or the stuff that they've done on social media is just all about Will Osprey and rightfully so yeah I mean it does well pretty good that's why I was gonna ask you I mean technically speaking you have three title matches involving British United Kingdom type wrestlers you have obviously Osprey Omega but then you have the Brawling Birds against Divine Dominion and then you have Nigel McGinnis because John Moxley do all the British people win in Wembley what yeah or do you or do you send somebody home unhappy with I think the Brawling Birds win Will Osprey wins who was the other one you mentioned Nigel and Moxley I think Moxley probably defeats Nigel and then Moxley gives Nigel like the the handshake not of approval that you know he's you know like respects him is that is that the way you kind of end

41:28 that match then well he's been doing that for like almost every match right I know it's so weird by the way like you have on one hand you have them like the the deathwriters are heels and one thing and then Mox is kind of a baby face and we still haven't got the payoff to Osprey leaving the deathwriters there's just like yeah that's weird yeah so I am a little confused but there's part me that just wants to see all the British people win but then the you know the Vince McMahon and Me goes oh no you're you're in your home country everybody joins the Kiss My Ass Club in your hometown so yeah everybody loses yeah it's um it it feels like Osprey's the one them and the Brawling Birds are the one that walk out of there Nigel I think would be almost a hero in a loss than he would be equal as as a as a victor do you do you think the ankle injury is legit I haven't seen anywhere that it is do you think it's legit no I think it's all storyline because that way if he loses or if he passes out from Mox having him with some kind of ankle lock you still get the the crowd like loving him because he fought over through the adversity in the losing efforts it's kind of like Rocky one you know it's like Rocky lost to Apollo in the first fight but the crowd is still at it because it's showed hard long as Nigel shows his heart and fights through the pain and gets really really close a few times but his body kind of gives out the end he'll still get the love and adulation from the audience yeah so should be a fun show this Sunday AW all in and we

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