5 Years of AEW Dynamite and WWE Bad Blood Preview | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #764 – 10/3/24

0:00 It's still Jenny. Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition The Still Realbo Show, Episode number seven and sixty four for October three, twenty twenty four. Welcome to this week's edition of s RT You I am one After the Show, I Am Jeff Pecker, joined every single week from my host, the one Only, Doctor Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey. Can you believe it's been five years since Dynamite launched?

0:41 My friend, h Can I believe it's been five years? Yes? Because as you get older, time flies by, and so I have no concept of time anymore. Like stuff I think happened like a year or two ago. I find out was like ten. So has it? Do I feel like it's been five years? No? But there have there been times during aw's run that I've been watching and go, God, this one episode feels like five years. Yeah. It's wild. When you're younger, you're in the adolescent's age, you're going through school. Everybody would tell me, like, enjoy this time because time flies by once you got out of high school. And there is nothing more true than that.

1:24 I mean, it's it's like a lock at the switch and it's been five years, and that is like that in any stage of life. Watching my son grow up. It's been three months, nearly four months, and he is just, you know, completely changed since from when he was born. And I'm sure that's going to continue on and on as life goes on here. But that is one of those bits of advice that you always hear that is so frigging true, is that time flies by. And that's what I was thinking about on Wednesday night watching Dynamo. I'm like, man, it's been five years since AW Dynamite launched. I remember all the build up towards AW, watching the YouTube shows to start launching AW, whether it was being the Elite Cody had a show, then they had some of those specials like in Las Vegas and February to do, and now it's double or nothing, And here we are five years later. AW is a brand that is well known.

2:20 It's you know, I think it's recognizable by probably outside folks in professional wrestling here and there. I think it's it's gained enough momentum where people are like, oh, AW, that's that other WWE like wrestling promotion and it's like, yeah, yeah, kind of that's it. But here we are five years later, and it's amazing, Doctor Try. I mean they really, I know they've had their ups and downs, but they changed professional wrestling for the better ultimately. Yeah. I mean we talked about it leave on last week's show. You know, the different and the contract negotiations and the way they run their business and being more talent friendly than what WWE was under Vince. I mean, you go back to the pandemic era. They changed the way the shows were shot, they changed different things, like they've They've changed wrestling for the better for the most part there.

3:21 You know, there are certain things that I kind of wish they put the genie back in the bottle on a little bit, but you know, their way of doing things has changed the industry. And that's what you and I always talk about, was like competition is good for all businesses because it breeds new ways of thinking, new ways of doing stuff. And they've done a fantastic job of that over these five years. Yeah, WWE Professional Wrestling was complacent for twenty plus years. I mean TNA made a run at WE, and really they got I don't want to say they didn't get close, but they did not get as close as AWS. I mean TNA on Spike TV at one point, which a major network now known as the Paramountain Network, and they were out there on the national televised audience. Ring of Honor had a good cult like following amongst wrestling fans that is similar to ECW. They were on the Sinclay're broadcasting network, but they never kind of broke through like an ECW did in the late nineties. Is that third brand in professional wrestling? It wasn't really until AW came along, had some money that they could throw around and was doing the complete opposite of WWE where it truly changed professional wrestling for the first time in twenty plus years and it was a breath of fresh air. They have done amazing things to really challenge the norm and kind of take their business model and make it the norm.

4:46 Where would WWE have been in the last five years if it wasn't for AW pushing them to get better, creatively, to get better and taking care of the professional wrestlers to get better for making sure their fans leave home happy. Would that have all happened if AW wasn't pushing the norm. So huge hat tip to AW on celebrating five years of AW Dynamite this past Wednesday. I thought the one thing that was actually lacking from this past week's edition of AW Dynamite was not many lookbacks to some memorable moments in AW history. I know they would have them coming in and out of breaks. I would like to see some sort of video package looking back at the last five years of AW Dynamite. I thought that was lacking.

5:31 It's nice to get a little nostalgic from time to time and look back at the good times that was in the early days of AW Dynamite. With that said, Doctor Trey five years celebration for AW Dynamite, what are some of the moments, memories, matches that stand out to you from the last five years of AW Dynamite on TBS and formally TNT. I mean, for me, like some of the sixty Man or sixty minute Iron Man matches that Brian is a with with Hangman and Kenny Omega, Like those are great matches. God, you kind of caught me. I wasn't prepared for this question, and so I'm trying to run through some stuff. Honestly, even this is as crazy as it may sound, like the Jericho Orange Cassidy feud stands out to me and A lot of it was just because it was a little bit different. It was a little bit wwe ask you had the giant orange juice spot that they brought back up into the current feudis in with.

6:29 Man. Trying to think of some other ones. Those are ones on top of my head that kind of stand out, and just maybe some of the like the times you get to see the new people, like the first time I got to see the new Malachi or excuse me, the House of Black entrance on AW and how it differed from WW. Seeing the different presentations of guys we knew from other shows and then getting to learn who the hell Sammy Gavara is, Who the hell Darby Allen was like learning some of these, you know, the pillars of AW and seeing them on a big stage and it had actually becoming household names for me. One of the big things that stands out as favorite moments from AW Dynamite was the pandemic era of AW Dynamite.

7:14 I remember those first couple of weeks when everybody was legit locked down, not really going out, and I was so relieved and happy, and when television that I recognized was coming on because there was not a lot of new content at the time, and I remember that they think they did a show at Daily's place and then they went and did some shows at the Nightmare Factory and it was the TNT title Tournament when they launched that championship, and it was just like a breath of fresh air. And I think some of their best work was done in front of barely anybody during the pandemic. I mean, they really came into their own during the pandemic. And then when they were in Daily's place for whatever those fifty plus weeks, I think it was almost like six seventy weeks of programming from March twenty twenty to about June twenty twenty one was memorable. I mean, they, like Doctor Trey pointing out, they made w change the way that they did their presentations for programming for a period of time when WW was doing the shows out of the PC that they really broke through there and I think it was some of their best again, some of their best stuff with nobody around. And you know, I kind of I kind of missed the days where it was just aw dynamite because I think creatively they did their best stuff. I get why they need two shows, especially with the amount of people on their roster that they have, but the way that they used to build those AW dynamite shows early on, from like nineteen to twenty one, maybe twenty twenty two a little bit. We're

8:46 so well done, creatively, very organized, great approach that has obviously unfortunately been lost as time has gone on in AW because creative is something that is often a sticking point with me as a fan watching where it's like a lot of stopping. There's the stretches where they're really really good, from like March this year till up until all out and yeah, it's been fun. I mean the OSPRAMJFF match that recently took place stood out to me. Brody Lee's debut, Matt Hardy's debut, Malachi Black's debut. I know you mentioned him. He showed up surprisingly during a show in Miami, one of those first shows back on the road, and he was not expecting. AW but wwat that snafu with his contract where he was like an NXC talent and not only thirty days instead of ninety days to let his to let his contract lapse. Yeah, I mean, it's it's just been a really fun run.

9:45 I think of a lot of great stuff there various different times in the early stages of aw Dynamite and how exciting that was. And you know, I think of episode number two, Private Party defeated Young Bucks was stood out to me. I mean, that was a really fun moment. And you know, you look back at those early aw Dynamite days and you're like, man, they still got that in there, and they could still get those crowd reactions. They kind of went old school on Wednesday Night. Aw really love showing the crowd shots, and rightfully so, because they've not had a chance to really do that over the last six months unless it's a pay review. So I mean, massive accomplishment here, Doctor Trey. And there's some more things to celebrate in regards to all of the wrestling.

10:28 But I think if you asked me back in October twenty nineteen, would we'd be talking about the five year anniversary, you know, in five years from now, I would say yes, But you never really know when that type of stuff happens. So I mean that's a huge accomplish, the accomplishment for them to still be here for five years, to still be a very solid number two in the United States for wrestling, promotion and to really push the envelope and change things for the better when it comes to the world professional wrestling. Yeah. I mean if you had asked me that if they'd be around in five years, I'd say yeah, because look at TNA, like you and I, well you and Eric, you said, have a running joke and we did it on our show as well, like was t and A going to be in business in a year? And that ran for fourteen fifteen years? You know, if they're going to make it. So I always kind of thought they'd make it to this mark. I just didn't know if they'd be able to grow or if.

11:23 They'd have to downsize. And I think they've done an admirable job of slowly growing their brand awareness. It may lack in some other areas, but like you said, if you go around talk to people who are kind of, you know, borderline wrestling fans and you ask what AEW is, they're gonna be, Oh, that's that other show that's kind of like WWE. That's where Chris Jericho is, or that's where you know John Moxley is or Daniel Bryan or somebody like that. They'll they'll mention one of those guys. So I think they've done a great job with that. I mean there, I mean, obviously there are always some things that you can tweak, but it's a. Learning curve like there. I mean, just think about this, Like the amount of information that you learn in that your son will learn from birth until the age of five, like Samy's doing now, is incredible, And what you learn from kindergarten through fifth grade is a five year window and you learn a ton in that space.

12:16 They've done a lot. Of learning, tweaking, changing things, trying new things out. So I give them all the props in the world to it. And you know, one of my favorite things I forgot to mention was, and you brought it up, was when we're doing those daily the daily Plaza places or shows that having the wrestlers around the ring side and hearing an MJF or hearing you know, Sean Spears in the time or something talk trash to a guy in a match that he's not involved in. I thought was so clever and so witty, and it was actually a way of like character development for guys that maybe weren't on the show like that. That stuff was really really well done and really fun and next thing, you know, you see NXT doing the same thing a month later because they all realized, hey, that's a great idea. We could have some feedback and not just these empty arena matches that we've been having. So but yeah, like I'm really happy for that company. They've they've they've come a long way, and you know they can keep growing. You just keep learning and adapting and business is more about adapting and surviving than anything else, and they've done a good job at that.

13:25 Yeah, very very much. So. I also think I remember you were mentioned like wrestlers talking. That's like how I got introduced to Coltman Austin Gun because they would like lose their minds on the outside of the ring as the crowd back then. So props all around, Awn was It was a very celebratory day on Wednesday for AW, so outside of the five year anniversary of Dynamite, it was officially announced by Variety that AW had signed a multi multimedia rights deal with Warner Brothers Discovery. We had heard about this for some time that this was intimate, intimate, and it happened also intimate, I mean, it was a very intimate situation with Warner Brothers as well. The deal is reportedly three years with a four year with an option for a fourth year.

14:09 The fourth year would be at a substantial increase in price, according to Dave Meltzer. Variety also said that AW programming will streave live on Max simultaneously for the US subscribers and will be available to stream on demand starting in January twenty twenty five. Their pay per views will be available on Max, but at a discounted price. What that price is, nobody knows. That's a little bit concerning, because I was hoping that with this new deal that it would go over to Max and it would be a similar price point to what ww's doing on Peacock. But I guess AW had said that, you know, WA and UFC are basically losing their shirts now on pay per views by only having them up there for four ninety nine a month on Peacock. There was a report out there from Sports Business Journal, according to Russell Puris and Fightful Select, where it stated that they were reporting that Warner Brothers Discovery had an equity stake in AW. That has been something that has been long rumored since AW launched. Reportedly, thus far, neither AW nor w or Warner Brothers Discovery have confirmed this. Additionally, PR contracts contacts at both companies stated they've never heard of that aspect of Warner Brothers Discovery having equity in AAW and then finally aw's new deal with Warner Brothers Discovery is closer to one hundred and eighty five million per year, not to previously reported one hundred and fifty million, according to a source close to the situation that comes via Russell Votes. Also through the Russell Puris Twitter feed. Sean ross Sapp also confirmed

15:43 that that is what he had heard as well, so a three year deal with a fourth year option, whether it would be an increase at one hundred and eighty five million a year. They will be on HBO Max airing, it will be streaming and also Next Day and there will also be a discounted price for pay per views on Max Doctor Trey. This is for Dynamite and Collision. Rampage was not part of the press release. Nothing new as of yet with Rampagne. There's been rumors that there will be a show on Fox, but this for the Friday show. Rampage may be done completely in twenty twenty five. There may be a new show called AW Shockwave on Fox, but we'll talk about that once it happens down the line. Nonetheless, let's look at the deal here at DOTG Trade. This is very big. This is great news for professional wrestling.

16:29 This is great news for professional wrestling fans, and this is obviously great news for AW. Your thoughts on the. Deal, Yeah, it's good for everybody evolved because not only do you get you know, for Max, you get to stream Dynamite because there are people like me that you know, I stream everything. I don't have satellite, I don't have cable, so I don't get TBS or TNT on my streaming platforms. I do have Max because it comes with my AT and T subscription, so I can now watch dine in my life and not have to go to you know, some alternatives excuse me, some alternative sites to try and watch it. It's good for wrestling fans. We got three more years guaranteed pretty much of professional wrestling.

17:14 If if the Fox deal goes down and you get some more wrestling on FS one, I doubt it will actually be on main Fox, but I think FS one things like. That is good. It's great for the wrestlers. It's more money being generated into the company, so they can you know, play with salaries, raises, you know, things like that. Overall, it's just it's just good in general. And then for like I said, for Max, it's great because you get that. Plus there's still an opportunity for them to stream you know, past episodes of Dyna, My, past episodes of Collision, Ring of Honor, stuff from Days of Old, because Tony Kahan bought the library, so there's more content available for Max, which has been struggling with content for a while. Like I like, literally yes to Day was the first time we've turned bax on in probably six months, just because they haven't had anything new.

18:06 To watch that we were interested in. So getting more content on these platforms is great for everybody involved. Yeah, this is great. I guess there were remembers about Ring of Honor potentially going a true TV, but that wasn't part of the deal. It's I think Meltsa reported earlier today that everything with Ring of Honor is status quo. If you are an AW hater for whatever reason, you should be celebrating this because this is good for whatever you like. If it's w E, if it's new Japan. If it's whatever, If it's whatever, you like that it is an AW. This is good because we need more wrestling promotions on network television schedules in the United States and beyond. Like we need that. We need both companies to push one another. And you should be cheering on AW.

18:54 If you don't like, like, we could sit here, we could bash their creative we could bash their matches, we could bash their cards long they are whatever, But this is ultimately we are still pushing for them to be successful, and this is a form of their success. So I'm very happy for them. The thing I'm going to be watching with a very keen eye here, Doctor Troy again is the discounted pay per view prices. I want to know how much it is and like, what is a fair price for me to want to spend that money? Again, I was hoping, what if you had a Max subscription, you'd be able to watch AW pay per views, but there's still going to be a paywall behind there. I mean, what is a fair price if you're already subscribing to Max to also make the pay per view for available for the fans, And that could actually open up the door for WWE Togo. That's interesting. Maybe we'll do that in the future, which I don't want to have happened.

19:50 I have everything that is good for aw, that's not what I want to have happened. But I was hoping that I would be able to watch the pay per views VA Max Doctor Trey. That won't be the case. What is a fair price point then, in that realm. Right, I think that's the best price for the point for them, because hey, you've already conditioned your wrestling fans to ninety nine, like we heard it for for god knows how long on the network, and then you know you have Peacock. But nine ninety nine is a good conditioning price, especially if you're already paying for a Max subscription. On top of that, it's just extra money for Mac for Warner Brothers, I mean that they're that's just gathering, that's just double dipping into your client base. Anything more than that you're gonna have, You're gonna have fans and just go, yeah, I'm already paying ten bucks, twelve bucks, fifteen bucks a month for Max.

20:46 I really don't need this. I mean, it's just to me, it's more about just price conditioning, and then that way you can still say that you're in the same ballpark as WWE, and you can sell that to advertisers as well, so you can get that great rec pieces or Reces sponsored Darby Ellen Coffin match or something. Didn't they do like Cracker Barrel in the early days of AW where there's like a Cracker Barrel match. Yeah, I know, WW has done more than anybody else. So like the Dorito's Mountain Dew, you know, all that fun stuff, you know, but you got me for like aw's got to do a Red Bull ladder match, you know something like that. Hey, money talks, money talks. So we'll see there's more details that funnel out in regards to this deal. Congratulations to AW and Warner Brother Discovery. Another at least three years on TNT and TBS programming, potentially another four years, and I guess we'll keep an eye on whether or not there is an actual stake in AW from Warnbro Discovery.

21:43 There's always been that rumor, and now you've got conflicting reports for like the first time. Now you've got some real solid people out there talking about it, and they're saying both sides are basically saying I have no idea what you're talking about that is not the case at all. One of the people who helped become a founder of AW, Doctor Trey, is the current we Champion, Cody Rhodes. He is now in WWI. You want to talk about moments that I was, like my mind, BLEW is two and a half three years and Cody's gone from AW. But nonetheless, Cody rhoads and is in WWI. He's the Wee Champion. He has a very big match at Bad Blood over the weekend. He'll be tagging with the Roman Raids to take on SOLOSIKOA and Jacob Fottwo. We'll preview that here in a little bit. But one of the things that we've been talking about for sometimes that he became champion was our concerns of him becoming vanilla, his storylines not being compelling, his story lines not being entertaining, historylines not being interesting in him kind of floundering a bit as a world champion. So there was some concern on our part, and I think that they may have found a potential storyline that peaks at least my interest. Doctor Try. I want to get your thoughts on this thing. So I feel like Cody Rhoads finally has a good storyline as champion for fans to sink their teeth into storyline is him tagging with Roman Rains on Saturday and Kevin Owens and Randy Orton kind of looking at him as a quasi trader for tagging with Roman Reigns. I like the interactions of the last two to three weeks on SmackDown,

23:13 whether it be with Rhodes and Owens, Roads with Orton, or Roads with both Orton and Cohen Kevin Owens in the rain this past Friday's edition of SmackDown. I'm digging that because it makes so much sense. One of the worst things in professional wrestling, especially during the time where Vince had the creative books, is you would have two enemies that had this really intense feud and then two months later they would be tagging with one another like nothing ever happened, and it would be like, well, how do come we never explain how we get here? Well, Cody tagging with Roman, how they built that up makes sense. All the stuff around it, and how he would be looked at by his peers is something that typically is not included in these types of storylines, or it's typically lost over. I love that two people who were at war with Cody Rhodes against the Bloodline, Kevin Owens and Randy Oran are basically like, what the hell are you doing, dude, and they want to kind of call him a trader, but they don't get there. It seems like Kevin Owens has one foot in there where you could see him turning on Cody Rhads at one point Randy Orans kind of like shrugging his shoulders a little bit. But I watched that on SmackDown. Light bulb went off and I was like, We've been talking about this for a long time.

24:29 We want a good Cody Roads storyline. I think we found it, Doctor Try. I'm really digging what they're doing as part of like this character development with Cody Rhoads, Kevin Owens, Randy Orton, and of course the stuff that's being included with him tagging with the Roman Reigns at Bad Blood. Yeah. It's actually one of those things that you and I have talked about, I mean several times over the years of the show. Like I remember, you know Sena and Orton, you know, having their feuds, and it was like two months later seen in Orton or in a tag match together and they would do the whole like, I don't think I trust you. Well, I don't think I try chew that much either, But it was never like as as. Poignant as what we're seeing right now. And then you never have anybody question John Cena or Randy ordes so why they're tagging with the other. And you know, it's always one of my favorite things in wrestling the bitch about is when your good guy is getting beat down by four people and nobody comes out to save him. Well, is he really a good guy ie if nobody in the back wants to come help him. So this storyline is like the perfect combination of little nitpicky things that've had over the years where you're like, okay, Cody and Roman pretty serious feud. I mean literally, like Roman and Rock were trying to destroy Cody less than a year ago, and now he's teaming with Roman. I love the way they played out with the Roman where Roma's not asking for Cody's help, he kind of doesn't want it, but Cody's kind of positioned himself that like, hey, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

25:57 All right, this makes sense. And then you really have two people that like you know, have great storyline history at the bloodline and with Roman in particular, going dude, what the hell are you doing? Like we trust you, we love you, but we don't trust him. What are you walking yourself into? It's a great storyline, the fact that it takes away from real life, Like if you have somebody in your life who hates somebody with a passion and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they're helping that guy out for some reason. You're like, dude, what are you doing? That makes no sense? Like you hate that guy, Like what's going on? I love when they I'm not saying that this is not one of those instances where they're blending. They're blurring the lines with the reality and storyline, but this is a situation where you're taking a real life situation, in real life emotions and transposing it into wrestling, which is one of those things that we love, Like we love when art imitates life, and this is one of those really good segments where it's imitating life.

27:00 You've heard the words in titles that they have now wa of character development, and that is so important, so poignant and so true, and I love that they have job titles that have that name in their job title because of the importance behind it, because it's it plays a massive role in creative and maybe sometimes with these writers they're not thinking about, Okay, this this loose end is well, we can just kind of forget about out that and the fans will remember it anyway. I remember you used to reading reports that like they would think in creative fans will remember this anyway. We'll just you know, start doing it this way, and so be it well forgetting some sort of history that took place three, six, nine, twelve months prior. And I love that WA is choosing not to ignore it. And that's one of those things that's always been a bugaboo and I just like it.

27:47 And because when as time goes on, as I get more invested in I watch at home and they put these little pieces of the puzzle together, I'm going to be more likely excited, entertained, and looking forward to the crescendo of this all. And that is what WW is doing so so well, I know we just praised AW. I'm gonna pick on them a little bit, but creatively, this is where they are lacking in a lot of things, and it's a very minute and small thing. Because I watched so much of AW I do not miss their programming. But take, for instance, I was watching Collision recently, and up until this point, Rouche was aligned with the don Kallis family. He had they had done the storyline, he had joined don Kallis family, blah blah blah blah blah.

28:36 And he kind of saw as time went on with the will Ospray Kyle Fletcher Kenoski Takeshka stuff that roushe was not part of the don Challis family randomly anymore. It was like, where's Ruce. Maybe he's away, maybe he's injured. I have no idea. Well, they do a segment on Collision where he like reunites or restarts l I j for like no reason at all, and I'm like, but what happened to the alignment with the don Kallis family. Why isn't he with don Kallis anymore? Zero explanation. I'm picking I on AW here, but that is something I'd like to see where just a simple segment, Ruth just says, hey, listen, I've decided to go in my separate ways from you.

29:19 I appreciate what you've done for me, but I have something up my sleeve, will still remain friends or whatever, and they close out the segment. But that is the stuff of professional rights, and that comes to mind, like in recent times, while probably most things people are like skipping over, that is something that kind of like reminds me of moments that there's been gaps in storylines. And that's the thing that I like with WWE's doing right now. And the same point, I will say, I'll talk good here about AW Dotor Trey. I like the stuffing that they're doing with Moxley, Claudio Poc Danielson and Wheeler Da. I like the stuff with Da. That is some good character development. They closed out the five Your Anniversary with Yuda tagging with Danielson taking on Claudia Unpack. I eventually think you'da does turn on Brian Danielson. But you're seeing some good character development. Bad character development again with AW that I understand. When did Marina Shaffir just get a Russian accent? Right? I believe she's Russian. I may be completely wrong. I'm gonna say Eastern European accent just to be on the safe side here, But again, those are times where there's been good character development and bad bad character development, and it is so important profession rustling for fans to get that.

30:37 Yeah, what what was the name of the group that they formed to back MJF when he climbed the ladder to the devil so to win the briefcase? Oh, the firm, the firm, And then like it just gone. And there's never been an explanation to that. You know, they basically said an interview, is that like once Punk got injured and the whole brawl loud thing happened, that it like completely screwed everything up, but then they never really followed up with it. Yeah, but I mean we've we've seen that wrestling before where they start something, an injury kind of derails it, but they still make it work or they still dance around it for a little bit, and then there's but there's usually a write off or a finality to it, not just completely dropped. You know. Dear God, I'm just waiting for Triple H to call Roderick Strong and be like, wasn't when did Marina get in accents? You know, just having Kobe flashbacks here, But like you know, like you said, like the different little small subtleties of stuff the way things are going on. Remember back when when the Fiend was on top and everybody he wrestled changed afterwards, whether it was Seth Rawns or Brian or Daniel Bryan or whoever it was he was in the ring with. And you see that now with a guy like carrying cross like he had the interactions with with a Xavier was and now we're seeing darker sunning. Xavier Wood's coming out.

32:01 He's had the interaction to Miz and then Miz turns on our truth. Like, to me, those were great little callback things, and you know, it always drove me nuts when I would hear that, Oh, wrestling fans don't remember this. Wrestling fans don't remember this. If you're a fan of professional wrestling, you're in the same book, in the same boat as Star Wars fans, Star Trek fans, soap opera fans, comic book fans, and. We remember everything. We remember every detail of every interaction that goes on. And it just used to drive me nuts when stuff like that would go on, and we're like, hey. Like, you know, I brought up a couple weeks ago. I think I was like, when did Roderick Strong, Like all of a sudden like hook and shake his hand after a match like I thought he was a Like things like that drive wrestling fans nuts.

32:51 It's that thorn that gets into our brain. It's still I mean, to this day, Jeff, I still don't know who the hell Katie Vick is. Well, I none of us should, none of us. But I mean I I and I had. I had came up with my own storyline, like my own theory in my head as to why that whole thing played out. And I was like, Okay, I have to. Make up my own backstory to get that thorn out of my brain. But different little things like that, We'll just eat at people forever until there's, you know, some kind of conclusive finish to a storyline. We need beginnings and ends. We don't need just beginnings and no ends.

33:33 And we don't need just random ends with no beginnings like we need concrete storyline. Character development, which when I heard Shawn Michael's introduced as the was he the senior vice president of character Development. That's where I heard it on n NEXTD on c W. Yeah, I was like, that's an awesome title that that gets you a promotion. I think with the title like that. Yeah, I like that there's I like it in a title because it is a major vocal point. There's not just creative, it's like, how do I start to care about these wrestlers? And that's the thing that at any point of our wrestling fandom, whether it was caring about Sting taking on Rick Flair or to take on Rick.

34:18 I'm trying to think of who else there Hogan during Hulcomania, Steve Austin going after Vince McMahon, Brett Hart, Sean Michaels Rock Austin Like there was a character development behind a Doctor Trey and I'm just happy that they're doing that right now with Cody Rhoades. So, I mean, that's that's pretty exciting to see that. Yeah, speaking of Shawn michaels In, character development is new role with w E. Let's talk a little bit about the NXT debut on the CW Network. Some notes I had written down Doctor Trey Roxane Perez shockingly defeating Julia thanks for the help of the returning Corra. Jade wes Lee defeats Zachary Wentz in an awesome street fight.

34:59 Austin Australian female star Delta appears to be NXT bound. Trick Williams wins the NXC Championship. I'm still not feeling Trick Williams matches, and then Seampunk takes out Ethan Page to close the show, which was pretty funny. During the confetti, you just see a gts. Overall, I thought it was a great, crowd, solid show. I don't know if I'm digging the new NXT logo yet, but those are some of my thoughts from NXD on the CW network. I actually really enjoyed the show. I actually watched it live, which is a rarity for me with kids and everything else going on the world. That rock Stand and Julia match was really good. There's a couple of spots in there. Once again Julia brand new to the company, but I thought they did that match really well. The Core Jade return was surprising because I didn't know she had been kind of cleared to come back. But that was great that the I mean, everybody lists the show knows. I'm a huge Wes Lee fan, known the guy for forever.

35:54 I've known Zach Wentz forever now as well. That was just one of the most fun, entertaining. Like Street Fight match is in a long time women's tag match was a little bit kind of but and I'm kind of with you, like the Trick getting the belt back. The crowd loves Trick Williams, but man, I can only I can only watch so many of his matches and I'm like, it's still kind of off at times. To me, that was more of a hey, let's put the belt back on Trick to let the crowd go home happy. I guess his character development arc of trying to figure out if he could bounce back after losing the title and having to go talk to all the former champions, get beat up by Pete Dunn, and then now defeat you know, Ethan Page is kind of the.

36:36 Climax of this. And I'm really looking forward to Saria's show because the orcuse Me next Tuesday show in Saint Louis. The Tony d Obafemi on Miss TV was was pretty entertaining and leading into this match and then, uh, I don't know if it's been announced, but I saw it on Twitter Randy Orton and Javon Evans that. Has been announced. I mean they're basically setting it up for a wild rcho. Yeah, like I am, I am I'm all in on that match because it kind of reminds me of the Mustafa Aldie Randy Orton stuff before Mustafa got hurt and we got Koche Maney out of it.

37:17 So I'm really excited for the show. I like. I don't know if I like the tweaks to the belt. I think it's kind of necessary, but I do like they say, hey, it's new, it's new show. We got you to get new belts. The logo, eh, But I like that it's already being referred to as the Black and Silver era, So I don't know if I like. I mean, I like it because it's close to Black and Goal but not quite there. But also, as a forty hundred fan, I hate the Raiders and they're the Black and Silver. Okay, I'm born. Hey, that's fair enough. Sometimes when those things happen. As sports fans, we see our sports fandom come out professional wrestling. Yeah, it was a very solid debut on the CW network. NXT has been a really good brand over the last six months or so, and it's been a very solid year for them, and I hope it. Hope it continues.

38:05 I presume Stephanie vak Kor will be coming soon to NXT. I think maybe there's some rumblings for her to appear in the Saint Louis show. The Tony d Obafemi storyline is Rocky three, which is kind of funny because it wasn't the whole thing Moxley was complaining about with Sam Punk during the aw stuff. I like Punk a lot in NXT as well. I think he's a great fit when he's on that brand. Again. I think the only takeaway Doctor Trey is I hate to say this because I really like him as a character. The entering workers not that much, and I don't know if they have any other choices right now, but I just is it possible that w W is potentially pushing Trick Williams down our throat a little too much?

38:56 Maybe because he's he's probably the biggest NXT merch mover, because whoop that Trick is a fun little chamber, but he get behind. I'm just wondering if this move is setting up Tony d to defeat Oba Femi, for Oba to move up to the heavyweight contendership, you know, and move that along, and then we get Trick and Oba down the road, and then we can do two African American men fighting for the NAC Championship, that type of stuff. He's kind of doing the Carmelo trick angle, but with a much bigger man. I'm just curious see what they do with some of these guys that have been in the undercard, like O Wesley his he O run. What do you do with Oba Femi since he's been the champion for so long? Do you use the time to move him up so and then now what do you do with Ethan Page with him dropping the belt?

39:45 How does that whole thing play out? So it leaves some questions in the storylines and does when Stephanie vakor comes in, do we get Stephanie and Julia against Roxanne and Korra Because I'm kind of on board for that one. Yeah. No, I think that is a potential direction that they go and keep an eye on the NXC women's division because that is about to explode here very soon. I mean, they were very, very good under and mid card in the NXC women's division. I said months ago, I thought it was one of the most deepest women's division in all professional wrestling, and I feel like we're on the verge of it. Exploding here in late twenty twenty four and certainly in twenty twenty five with some really big additions. Delta, who I've read some good things about from the Australian wrestling scene. As I mentioned before, Stephanie Vakhor, who we saw at Forbiddendor in aw New Japan back in June, Julia who we've been seeing here.

40:39 Roxanne Perez has been really good as a heel. Cor Jate is really good as a heel, so I'm happy to see her back. Klonnie Jordan has been very fun as a North American women's champion. So yeah, keep an eye on the NXC women's division, folk, because that may be the most exciting wrestling division in all of professional wrestling. Soon enough, so views on the CW Network. I did not know I had the CW Network, so that was very exciting to find once they made this announcement. So congrats all around, very solid show. Looking forward to Saint Louis this upcoming Tuesday. Speaking of upcoming shows, Doctor Trey, we have Bad Blood premium predictions here takes place this Saturday from the State Farm Marine in Atlanta, Georgia. Before we go match by match, Bad Blood is an old wrestling pay per view. It was the debut of Helena sel Seawn Michaels and The Undertaker back in ninety seven.

41:32 I think it will be on October fifth, ninety seven. It was then in your House Bad Blood. When do you think the last WA bad When was the last time WA had a pay per view named bad Blood? I'm gonna say s i' musa say two thousand, two thousand and one. Very close. It was two thousand and four, So twenty years later, Bad Blood has returned. Let's get to the first match on the card here. It's gonna be Damian Priest taking on Finn Balor. This is a tough one to call Doctor Trey, but I'm gonna go with Damian Priest. Yeah. This one's tricky because typically these rivalries last a little while, and this is their first one on one meeting. I think I'm gonna take Finn stealing a victory here, So I'll take Finn stealing one from Damian Priest to set up the rematch with some kind of you know, stipulation on it.

42:31 Next match is Live Morgan taken on Rida Ripley for the WA Women's World Championship. Dirty Dom we suspended above the ring in a shark cage. Who do you like in this one? Doctor Trey? See this one's tricky also because liv won the last one, so you expect Ria to get a revenge. But if I'm not mistaken, the last couple times we've had people in shark cages, the heels have won those matches, Like I remember Paul Ellering being in one for an AOP match in NXT and he was able to drop stuff down to help them win. So I think I'm gonna take Ria thoughs I think everybody wants to see Ria get the wins. I think I'll take Ria getting the win in becoming the new women's champion.

43:11 Yeah, I'm gonna take Ria Ripley as well. I'm really looking forward to this one. I like the sharkage element, I like Dirty Don being in the shark cage, and this has been a good few but I think it's time to put the championship back on Rihea lives had a great run with the title, but I'd like to see Ria get the championship back on because if she doesn't get it now, I guess when will she get it? Because we're gonna head into war games, which she may be involved with, and then we're looking at what maybe the first episode on Netflix, maybe they do a rematch with her and live for that episode, because you got to figure that's gonna be who huge episode. So I can't see them going a couple more months without Ria having having the championship around her way. So I'm gonna go with Ria Ripley to regain the WA Women's World Championship.

43:55 Next batch year is Naijacks defending the WA Women's Championship against Bailey. I'm gonna take Naya Jackson this one. And for all the good things that we say about creative, well I like the creative that got us to this match, Doctor Trey. I just kind of feel like that the SmackDown Went's division has been a little bit too one dimensional, with Nijack's Bailey matches taking place a lot. Yeah, outside of Naya Bailey and Tiffitty Stretton, who I don't even know who else is on the SmackDown Women's roster pretty much like that's pretty much all we ever see. So yeah, really Blair Davenport's on there, but that's kind of falling off. Yeah, but I thought Blair was doing stuff with the Unholy Union at times, and they're on raws, so it's just like she's on their roster. But then we see her pop up on PL's they get involved in, you know, Alba, Fire Island Dawn matches. So I'm looking forward when they shake their rosters up to get some more women back on SmackDown or with SmackDown goes to three hours. I'm with you, though, I'm taking Naya to retain just because it feels like she needs a little bit of time with the Belt. I know it's hard to book this because Nya's amm and she has Tiffany stretton kind of his backup, but I mean this could be where she gets on an dominant ron and she goes, you know, three hundred days with the Belt, and then whoever thrones are is a big push.

45:11 So I'll take Naye at retaining right now. Keep an eye on the stuff with Tiffany Stratton. They are starting to lead up to the idea of Tiffany eventually turning on Nie and maybe cashing in. I thought this whole stuff with n I was gonna be leading to the return of Charlotte Flair Queen versus Queen but there's some rumors out there that Charlotte may not be back in twenty twenty four at all from the injury she sustained back in December of twenty twenty three. Next match here, and I think I thought this match should be headlining main eventing the show Doctor Trey. According to reports, it'll be the opener CM Punk versus Drew McIntyre in a Helen of Cell match. Who do you like in this one? Yeah? See, baby Faces and Helen of Cell matches typically have the upper hand, so I'm gonna take Punk. Plus I feel like they might move Punk on to Gunther or something else, so I'm gonna say Punk getting the win.

46:03 Yeah, I'm gonna take Seampunk as well. The reports out there right now that we'll be getting Punk and gun through here soon enough. And then what is reportedly main eventing Doctor Trey will be Cody Roads and Roman Reigns taking on Solica Coo on Jacob Fat two. This is a real tough one to call. I want to choose Solo in Jacob Fat two, but I'm gonna go with Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns in this one to win this match. Do you feel like our predicted Survivor series wargame match with the Bloodline against the OG blood Line is completely out the window, and we get Cody, Roman, Randy and Ko against the New Blood Line. I do think that may be the direction, not even Yeah, I was thinking that during that actual actually that segment where Cody was talking with Kevin Owens and Randy Orton and they were setting up I think the tag team match later that tonight for SmackDown.

46:50 Yeah, So, on one hand's kind of disappointing that we might not get O G Bloodline against New Blood Line anytime soon, but that with the storyline, it could be very freaking does do we get Ko or Randy turning on Cody in the cell for war Games? But it's hard to pick because I really want to pick Solo and Jacob because I think I think they need the win more than Cody and Roman, so I think they wanna take the upset. They're gonna take Solo and Jacob getting the win over Roman and Cody. Who should be main eventing Bad Blood in your opinion, by the way. See I'm punk and Drew McIntyre. Yeah, it's the better feud, it's the more I mean that's the feud. I mean you look all the blood all of a sudden they've put into this. Like, I get the storyline is great, but you know for Cody and Roman and all that stuff.

47:41 But I mean, this feud has kind of carried the company for the past four or five six months. I think something big is going to happen and that is why this match is headlining Bad Blood. I don't know if you saw the clip this week, Doctor Trey, but Cody Rhodes was on the Pat McAfee show and they clip I think on McAfee's account or something, and it was some sort of and wrestled Puris pulled it off of Twitter and Cody Rhodes going around thinking everybody for having him on the show. And you hear Pat McAfee said, I heard we're getting the big Guy back this weekend, and Cody kind of was like caught off guard, like holy crap, he knows and he's like, what big guy are you talking about? And I think it was something like like the big Guy And to me, I jumped to either Paul Hayman or the Rock, so it could be Paul Hayman returns. That's the big guy that Pat McAfee's talking about, but I'm also thinking when he says the big guy, he may be meeting Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I think something big is going down this Saturday at Bad Blood.

48:46 Doctor Trey Well, and if that's the case, I saw that. I'm sure he saw it too. Brock Lesner has been added back onto the WWE page, so Brock could be a big guy. But I don't think Brock fits in here. But if Rock comes back, I mean Rock and solo against Brock and Roman at some points, you know, like that, it would be kind of cool, and we've never seen that happen. So yeah, I do think if this is the main event, you're getting something big to happen at the end of the match, because otherwise you'd go with punkin McIntire. Yeah, So interesting times ahead to here Bad Blood this Saturday from Atlanta, Georgia. We will recap and review it for all of you on next week's edition of SR to You, and we'll also preview and predict aw Wrestle Dream that will be taking place next weekend. With that said, let's get a couple plugs and sponsors out of the way.

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50:20 Championship Wrestling and then we're also doing a fundraiser for the for a local police department up in Ardmore, Alabama on October. Twenty sixth as well. So four different companies this month, Jeff, I guess I'm back in the swing of things. There you go. That's really really good to hear that Doctor Trey is back out on the independent wrestling scene, because I know he's been missed with that bum leg for some time. So happy to see Doctor Trey back out there doing his damn thing. With that said, thank you once again for downloading this week's edition of SRT you. Anything we discussed, feel free to chime in Facebook dot com, slash the Still Real tut Show, or on x at SRT you podcast. Enjoy the weekend, enjoy Bad Blood, and until next week. For Doctor Trey Franklin, I am Jeff Pack.

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