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Hi guys, welcome back to Real Love, real Life Podcast.
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I'm Jasmine.
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And I'm Ernesto.
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Well, we're going camping.
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I'm excited, I'm so excited to unplug.
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Like.
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I'm literally gonna pull the cord tomorrow and like just relax.
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Finally relax.
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When was the last time like we did something that we just because like we've gone out of town and stuff, but it's?
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Like work events.
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That's all it's been is work.
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Yeah, it's really been like work so, and there's something so different between like camping and like going like on vacation.
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Like obviously I'd love to be in Hawaii, but there's something about camping that I'm just always looking forward to Like I love.
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First of all, I love like beating everybody, like wake in the morning, like I wake up super early, I go and make my coffee and then I just sit there and like, do nothing, the kids can eat what they want.
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Like, yes, you can have a bag of chips at six in the morning I don't care you, and that's when you really wake up early too.
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Yeah, I love at the crack of dawn yeah, I love, I love camping, I love it.
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But um, anyways, just wanted to update on that.
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There has been a lot going on in the world lately.
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Like it is, it is so overwhelming.
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And if you guys feel overwhelmed like, don't worry, so do I, but I'm here to talk about it.
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Um, I just it's like so much chaos.
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Um, recently, like I had to, I would still be on social media, obviously, like I, that's my job, I would hop on, I'd post, but I wasn't scrolling it was it was so dangerous for my mental health.
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Um, I, I'd almost be, like, I'd go into, like a coma, huh like after scrolling for like a couple minutes I'd be like I need to go lay down.
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And then I'd go lay down and I'd just be like drained, like I can't, I couldn't get up.
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It was, it was crazy, it's just, it's a lot yeah, it's mentally draining.
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It's like you know whether what side is pushing what agenda or what propaganda is.
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Like they're just scaring you.
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It's like turn it off, like a lot of the stuff that's been going on.
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It's been going on for a long time.
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There's nothing we can really do about it unless we as you know you know our culture or Latinos is like the only way you can change stuff is not on the corner burning tires, waving a flag of another country, when this land was technically sold in 1848 for $15 million.
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So that's a fact.
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But also it's like if you truly want to change stuff, you have to go get educated and change legislation or represent your state.
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You guys love it.
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Like you know, everybody has the opportunity to go to school.
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Here too, it's like especially if you're majority of Latinos that come here to work, just like our parents.
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You know, just working, working two jobs, so it's like if you've been here a generation or two and it's like you have to get things in motion.
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You know it's like you can't just stay here and just work yourself like a work mule.
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You know there's there's a lot of opportunity, but there's also a lot of help and I feel like that's where it goes wrong.
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Um, one thing that that people that grow up, you know, in like less income areas they don't know about.
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You know government government assistance, like for tuition, like I think it's FAFSA or something like that.
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Yeah, like I remember when I was in trade school, some guy was like literally setting up helping people get it so they can get like paid tuition and money for their tools.
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Yeah.
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So it's like nobody knew about that until he came along, because he was a little bit educated on that.
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So it's like you know what I mean.
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I feel like it's just we're just not taught that stuff.
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Aside from we're not taught.
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I feel like a lot of the times we use the Internet for, like, the wrong reasons.
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Right, you could literally go on Google and search whatever you want.
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You put help near me, financial help near me like and everything is going to pop up I just feel like we get so lost in the scrolling, yeah, and just um, like what kind of like what we see, instead of actually um educating ourselves on it and there's a lot of things that you know on that side, like you know, political side, I don't have like knowledge, on which, again, I feel like I'm wrong in that, because I could open a book or google and you know like study it, but I don't and that's why I stay back a lot of the times, like when it comes to that I'm like you know what I'm.
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I'd rather not because I don't know I don't know too much.
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Right, you're not gonna talk facts, you're just gonna be talking with emotion, with emotion and especially like I'm I'm a very emotional person, so so I rather like you know what hey like.
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Let me, let me slow down, let me take a step back, maybe not um, and I feel like as a content creator or influencer, however you want to, wherever you want to put me, um, it's very difficult when you have like a following and you don't speak on something fast enough yeah like immediately, when things were happening, like the protests and or riots, whatever, um they were, I feel like immediately, people were are you gonna be at so-and-so protests at this time at this day?
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um, why aren't you speaking out about this?
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why, aren't you doing this?
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Um, things like that like, why, why, like, why, why do you guys, why do you guys do that?
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Like, do you?
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And then also I was getting messages, you know, saying that I was from this side, or I was from this side, um, because you know I wasn't speaking up about it, that I was forgetting where, like, my roots are, and, um, like all of these like silly things that know.
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It was like at to some point, kind of keeping me up at night because I was like, do people really like think of me like that, like I never I never built like the platform off of politics or anything like that.
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Like literally, my platform has always been like cooking plus size, um, excuse me, things like that.
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So like for people to come on and just say things like that were really hurtful.
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So I was like you know what?
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I'm gonna just take a step back not only that, they don't know nothing of you exactly.
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They don't know, like the background, like where, that I actually know how it is in another country because I already lived it, I've experienced it.
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I feel like I I'm pretty sure, like 98 of the people that were messaging me mean things, have never even lived in another country and experience like what it is in another country, you know so you live in another, in another country.
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What would you say are the differences like from living here and living over there?
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no, it's two worlds.
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It's like so I was born here in arizona and, um, but we would go back and forth a lot, like summers, um when, like winter vacation, winter break, we would spend it in mexico, um, so you know, there was a lot of back and forth, um when, when I was 14, um, my mom did send me like with my dad for a little while and then he sent me back.
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Then I was here until I was 17 again, 17, 18, around there, and then I went back to Mexico.
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And that's when I, that's when I was in Mexico until I was like 23, 24 years old.
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I lived I would say like I've lived a big chunk of my life in Mexico, um, and it's totally different, especially once I was over there with kids and I saw like the real struggle.
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Like the second time that I went to live in Mexico, I already had two kids.
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Um, then I was over age, so I was like okay, I have to get a job now.
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And it's funny, like in Mexico, when you're gonna apply somewhere, you already have to go in, like with your application, like you'd have to go into like a staples, like a or how they call it, like a papeleria, and they sell you an application.
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So, like every like, every job doesn't have their own thing.
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You have to go into like, let's say, like a store, buy one it's like a very generic one and already have it ready.
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Oh really.
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So I did that and the first thing that I noticed when I got my application was it was right next to my name.
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It had this word it's C-U-R-Pp, and I had no idea what that was.
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So I asked my mom and she's like so that's like a number that you basically get here when you're born or when you're registered, because in mexico you technically um, it's not like here in the hospital you fill out your birth certificate as soon as you're born, usually in Mexico, like a month later, you'll go and you'll register and until then, that's when you know the kid will have like a name, all of that she's like.
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So when you go and register you'll get a CURP, which is like equivalent to a social security number in the US.
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I was like, oh dang, well, I wasn't born here, how can I get one?
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And she's like well, you know, you'd have to go through the process of becoming a mexican citizen.
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So when I would go and apply everywhere, they'd be like this can't be blank.
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And I never thought it was like that.
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Like I thought I I guess I never thought there was like immigration laws is that silly?
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Like I never thought there was immigration laws in mexico.
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So every I was getting turned down by everybody, like you don't have.
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What are you doing?
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Like no, no, no, um, so I couldn't find a job, or couldn't I couldn't get a job.
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And then then it came time for my kids to start school, or our kids to start school, and same thing.
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What's his school?
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Oh, he doesn't have one.
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But here, um, like, my sister has kids that were born in mexico and they went to school here without a problem yeah literally just go sign them up.
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I don't even think you're discriminated, or I don't.
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I don't even think the schools here ask for a social security number, because I've never gave the kids social security number when.
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I just sign them up and get a free education.
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And yeah.
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So when I went to go sign the, at this time only Kevin was going to school.
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He couldn't start either.
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So they told me well, you know, we first give priority to kids that are born in Mexico.
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You know, we first give priority to kids that are born in Mexico and then once, like the first day of school comes, if there's room, then he can, he can start school.
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But if not, you know, we have to prioritize Mexican citizens.
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Ok, so comes the first day of school, I go back and ask no, there's no room, it's full.
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So he had to go to a school that I had to take two buses.
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We had to take two buses every morning to drop him off at school, to a school that did have space for him.
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So that's where I feel, like for starters, like that's already so different.
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Yeah, right, I feel like people don't think.
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people probably think how I used to think there's no, there's no immigration laws in Mexico.
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There is, you have to have that, um, if not, like I couldn't open a bank account I tried to open a bank account one time again.
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Where's this, where's these people?
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no, so it's basically if you come over, if you're here and then like you're trying to buy stuff and you need your social security, you don't have one.
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They're gonna be like well, yeah, it's like like who are you, huh?
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right.
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So you know, people like you know hear the word immigration and automatically think the worst yeah, it's crazy how they've associated with like emotion you hear immigration and it's like you just see somebody turn all sorts of colors Like, because they just like.
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How is that?
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How is that allowed?
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No one like no human, um, like is is illegal, things like that.
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And it's like hey, I already lived in another country and I'm pretty sure a lot of other countries, if not all of the other countries like have their immigration laws yeah so, um again, like I, it's very different.
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you know, you people think that we're not free here and I'm like you should really try to go live somewhere else.
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That's one thing that gets me when I think I was like promoting a 4th of July shirt that's coming up right.
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And that's a funny thing, guys, she was scared to promote it because she's like the backlash.
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I'm like, at the end of the day, if we're not proud and you know back up where we live, you know we can't cry about, cry about it later when we lose it and see, that's the thing.
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I feel like that's where I was wrong, like I'm uh, I'm proud, I'm proud to be um, mexican-american, and but I almost felt like I was scared to be proud to be american during these times, because I was like I'm like they're gonna say this, that, they're gonna say that, like I'm um, I'm not really like scared of losing followers, like it's something that you know you lose some, you gain some, things like that.
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I was just kind of like I'm always just, I guess, worrying what people think or what people are gonna say, which, at the end of the day, I guess really doesn't matter but I had the shirt that I was going to promote.
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really cute shirt, Um, you know, it has, like the all the American colors, things like that Immediately.
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I start getting all sorts of rude comments right away right away, like you guys, didn't even let the thing marinate and you guys are already like filtered comments.
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Going crazy yo yeah yeah, um so saying like girl, like this is not the time, um, like this is not, like this isn't necessary, or people were saying we're not oh, you didn't know, we're not celebrating the 4th of july yeah, miss me with that.
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Miss me with that.
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So again, even this episode, I thought about it, I thought about it and you know, I every time I'm like overthinking something, I always like I just I leave it to God.
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I'm like, here you go, bloop, it's yours, it's your problem right now.
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Because my brain we're, we're just, we're staying very like neutral, we're just saying like our, what are we?
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saying we we're talking about our experiences yes we're not talking about what's said on the news or what's on your algorithm we're talking real life experience of what we've been through.
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Like you guys don't know who of my family's been deported, who have jasmine's family's been deported.
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Like you guys don't even know that.
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It's like that's why it's traumatic to speak about that, because you know, 10 years, 10, 15 years ago, when you know her mom got picked up by ice at a court hearing, it's like you know that was happening back then too and you guys are going crazy about it now.
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It's like you know that was happening back then too and you guys are going crazy about it now.
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It's like, guys, you know it's, it's it's.
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It's hard being in the middle because obviously we were born here and thankfully so.
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I'm so blessed.
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I always say that I'm I'm so fortunate to be born here because, like my background, if my mom never came to the United States she wouldn't be here.
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Her kidneys were failing her.
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She's had multiple surgeries.
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You know her life ain't perfect, but this country has given their opportunity to extend it because of you know the medical care and also my dad.
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You know hitting it hard at work, working for SRP, 33 years, technically only has one hand.
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You know, luckily have health insurance.
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She was able to get treatment, but it always wasn't perfect as well too.
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So that's another aspect.
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That's like, yeah, the medical system hasn't been the best to my mom either.
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So it's like, um, you know, immigration, immigration status.
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Yeah.
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Medical status.
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Yeah.
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And just real life in general.
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It's like we know the struggle too.
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We've had family deported, you know, back when you know certain presidents were presidents my mom was getting she couldn't go to the doctor because she owed money yeah, getting turned away.
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It's like, yeah, my dad grew up middle class, like we were middle class technically because he had, you know, a blue-collar job.
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But when you're in medical debt, like that, it's like and you go to get blood work at a certain place, they're turning you back because of that, because of a certain law that they put into action, and it's like we've been affected from every aspect.
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Yeah, but we're still like very blessed and fortunate to be here.
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And it's like, as far as me, my dad's side for what I know, my dad's side has been here five generations, but also Mexican-American, like obviously, you know, and that would be neat to look into too like exactly tracing back your roots to know exactly where you come from.
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You know it's like, but at the end of the day it's not where you're from, it's where you're at, and that's why I was talking to your brother today.
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I'm like, hey, the thing that gets me is like, you know, I get it, you love where you're from, but it's like, but the fact that you don't acknowledge this place for giving us this opportunity I'm like to me.
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That don't sit well with me, because at the end of the day, I think you have to acknowledge it Like, especially as a man.
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If you don't acknowledge that, then, man, it's unfortunate, because we truly live like in the greatest land that ever was conceived, not only by God's, but we're.
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Whatever you put in here is what you get out, because we come from the hood, we come from the you know like, and you can really make it out.
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You just had to put the work into it see, and that's the thing that, that's something that, I like, strongly believe in is what you put in, is what you, what you get out um, I got here when I came back in 2019.
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When I came back in 2019, um, my mom had 20 that she had like folded like really cute, like behind her phone, like on her phone case, and that's what she gave me because my sister bought me the bus tickets um to to come back.
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After you know, I almost lost my life to like domestic violence and stuff.
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So my sister buys me the bus tickets and my mom's like this is what I have.
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She gave me 20 bucks and it was like a 20 hour drive, a bus ride, and so I technically got here with $20.
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Literally.
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I got here with $20.
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And four, five years later we own a home, we own two cars.
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I technically have my own business, like you know, influencing and all the affiliate.
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Yeah, and but I literally put in the work every single day, no matter like Saturday, sunday, my birthday, all of that, like I'm always looking for ways to grow um, or going to network events, like we have three kids.
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It's hard to go to those events, but every single time I try to make it there.
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Um, we've started our own businesses that then we've left, like the car detailing the photography.
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That is how great this country is that you can explore whatever you want, like you can, you can, it's open, it's open.
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Go for it, put in the work and you're going to see the results.
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The book is blank.
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You're going to.
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You know what I mean.
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And in other countries you don't have that opportunity.
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You're very limited.
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Also because the moment I mean, didn't my brother explain to you the other day?
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He's like, if you're in mexico riding around in that truck, if somebody wants it, they're gonna drag you out of it because they want to because, because they have more power yeah, like literally I drive a truck that where he's from.
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That if they see four by four they're gonna take it from you and it's like you can't call the authorities.
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You can't.
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Yeah, you can't Like.
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What are you going to do about it here, man?
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Yeah, you call a cop.
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That's why I'm like man, you know, we live in such an amazing place.
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Something's going on.
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You dial the 911.
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They get there.
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You know, within a reasonable time there, you know, within a reasonable time, they will lay down their life for you.
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Yeah, like.
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Yeah, there's bad apples everywhere.
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But I remember one time I was driving home from gila bend, working at the power plants, working 12 hour days.
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Yeah, I kind of got a little nervous so I jumped behind somebody so he pulled me over for tailgating.
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Right, you know, in those times it was like 2018, you know, you couldn't get pulled over if you're like a person of color.
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Well, I got pulled over right, right in front of the prison and he asked me you know, do you have any weapons?
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Yeah, it's right underneath.
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You know what I mean.
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And all he did, you know, asked me to get out and ran my name real quick, seeing that, you know, everything was legit.
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He went about his way, like you know what I'm saying.
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He obviously had to do his job because, you know, I did get behind that car and I tailgate or whatever.
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So, but he's seen.
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Everything was clean.
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You know it's like, they're like man.
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There's so many great things about this country that people don't talk about.
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Yeah, it's not perfect, like anywhere else, but if we just emphasize the small stuff, like you know, yeah it's tragic, people are getting deported, but that's been going on, not only that.
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But there's actual criminals that are with like court orders that people are stopping is like, if I break the law I'm going to jail.
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Yeah, like that's plain and simple.
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If I do fraud, if I do X, y, z, I'm going to jail and I can't run to another country and do that because they had that scapegoat.
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Like, hey, if I'm not running from here, I do something wrong, or something like that.
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Just like our other brother-in-law got rear-ended west side of Phoenix the car yeah, I'm going to pull over and they take off.
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You know, you don't got to be Albert Einstein to figure that out.
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You know that's no insurance or no papers, that's not discriminating, it's just the truth.
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It's like people like that and I'm not saying that's everybody, it's just you know they can.
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You know, just vanish.
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Yeah.
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Well, we, if we commit something, we're going going to jail, we're being held accountable versus you can't just boogie out to mexico like that exactly, and I feel like that's where people don't don't see like they're.
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They're just, they have so much emotion build up when they hear that word right, like you know, police or immigration, things like that and it's like guys like.
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It's like, like you mentioned, my, my mother, was deported at a court hearing.
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This was in 2013.
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So like, yeah, right now the news is playing that there is ice at these court hearings and people are just bamboozled Like they think that that has never existed.
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And it's like in 2013,.
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My mother, like presented herself at a court and she came out in handcuffs by ICE in 2013.
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And they dropped her off at the border, huh and they dropped her off Like there is nothing new going on.
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This has been going on, but now there's a lot more of social media.
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You know we have to talk.
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There's people recording everywhere and I feel like back then there, it wasn't a lot of that.
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But just here to tell you guys that this has been a thing for a long time.
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In 2013, my mother was deported from a court hearing.
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Um, so I my mother was deported from a court hearing.
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So I feel like we have to really like know when it's time for like our emotions and when it's time for like facts and stuff.
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And I think people were really getting like irritated with me when, like I wasn't giving them what they wanted to hear.
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They wanted me to.