Episode 98: Girl Friday

1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,149 podcasting 2.0 for August 19 2020 to Episode 98 It's a 2 00:00:06,149 --> 00:00:11,759 girl Friday. Hello everybody, welcome once again to podcasting 3 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:16,799 2.0 The one and only official board meeting of podcasting. 2.0 4 00:00:16,799 --> 00:00:21,149 the progression of podcasting. Hey, no, it will change things 5 00:00:21,149 --> 00:00:25,169 by the time we hit 20 Everything happening in podcast index.org 6 00:00:25,349 --> 00:00:29,099 The namespace which we'll be talking about today and of 7 00:00:29,099 --> 00:00:32,789 course everything that goes on in podcast index dot social. I'm 8 00:00:32,789 --> 00:00:35,309 Adam curry here in the heart of the Texas Hill Country and in 9 00:00:35,309 --> 00:00:38,699 Alabama, the man who put the V in value for value say hello to 10 00:00:38,699 --> 00:00:41,729 my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave 11 00:00:41,729 --> 00:00:43,199 Jones. 12 00:00:44,370 --> 00:00:50,100 I told I told our top secret guests like as as we were 13 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:54,210 getting ready to launch I said you know usually the way this 14 00:00:54,210 --> 00:00:57,180 happens you went you you did a pre show go to the little 15 00:00:57,180 --> 00:01:04,800 podcasters I said okay, usually how this happens is while when 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,940 Adam goes goes into the intro, I'm just I'm furiously typing 17 00:01:08,940 --> 00:01:13,140 and trying to post these things to Twitter and Mastodon all at 18 00:01:13,140 --> 00:01:16,770 the same time. And but this time I'm going to be all calm and get 19 00:01:16,770 --> 00:01:19,350 it done set up and good. Yeah, free 20 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:22,980 and then what happened? I'm currently right in the middle of 21 00:01:22,980 --> 00:01:23,760 furiously typing. 22 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:27,510 Oh, indeed. 23 00:01:28,350 --> 00:01:31,890 We did. Did you? Did you look at the clips 24 00:01:33,690 --> 00:01:36,450 I got your clips I didn't I never look at anybody's clips. 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:36,930 That's 26 00:01:37,380 --> 00:01:39,540 no don't even look he didn't know and look at the names or 27 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:41,010 anything. Yeah, I 28 00:01:41,010 --> 00:01:44,730 looked at the names and I saw something that I saw previously. 29 00:01:44,970 --> 00:01:48,150 But otherwise now I have no idea. 30 00:01:48,539 --> 00:01:53,189 You need to take special attention to the ISO yeah, 31 00:01:53,189 --> 00:01:54,659 there's I believe there's two of them. 32 00:01:54,690 --> 00:01:56,310 Yes the fruit one 33 00:01:58,290 --> 00:02:01,320 there's there's that one there's there's another one because I 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,060 had to I had to go to the defense of another chicken from 35 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:07,590 a halt this Oh no. 36 00:02:11,850 --> 00:02:14,040 Wait a minute. Are you down to one chicken at this 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,300 point? No, I saved this one's life. We're literally saved this 38 00:02:18,300 --> 00:02:24,870 chickens live up to man. Take some coffee. And I hear you're 39 00:02:24,870 --> 00:02:30,750 all this nuts in the backyard. And I know, I know the sound 40 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:33,300 this time you know didn't like you remember when you had 41 00:02:33,390 --> 00:02:37,440 chickens? When you had your kitten when you had your kids? 42 00:02:37,860 --> 00:02:38,820 Your kid and 43 00:02:38,910 --> 00:02:42,030 I've spent several years trying to forget but okay, if you want 44 00:02:42,030 --> 00:02:45,360 to bring me back to that pain? Yes. Little little I still have 45 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,350 some I still have Oh, little infant. Okay. Christina 30 years 46 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:50,550 ago. Yeah. Okay. 47 00:02:50,970 --> 00:02:53,550 And you could always tell as the parent you could tell the 48 00:02:53,550 --> 00:02:54,540 difference between uh, 49 00:02:55,410 --> 00:03:00,000 oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. 50 00:03:00,210 --> 00:03:03,090 Well, this way it is with chickens. You can tell bulk 51 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,950 distress versus just by a sound Sure. Versus an egg is coming 52 00:03:07,950 --> 00:03:13,260 out distress and yeah, like, and I hear distress. And I ran I ran 53 00:03:13,260 --> 00:03:18,270 out in this hole was standing on top of the chicken. Oh, no. And 54 00:03:18,270 --> 00:03:21,780 the ending was just like a hawk Hawk now Hakan can mess with 55 00:03:21,780 --> 00:03:27,840 you. This Hawk was about a foot tall 56 00:03:32,430 --> 00:03:38,910 dam and when pew pew this was a special Hawk is a second this is 57 00:03:38,910 --> 00:03:39,600 cool. Hold on 58 00:03:44,790 --> 00:03:48,180 that's what I should have done. I should have brought a bullet 59 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:52,950 pellet rifle. And by the by the backdoor. This chicken was so 60 00:03:52,950 --> 00:03:56,610 sad though. I mean, like, I saw the Hawks standing on and you 61 00:03:56,610 --> 00:03:59,940 could look at his face. And it's like, it's like it's over. 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,030 It is and now you already struck at him. 63 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,620 I don't know what he did. But I went out there and you know, and 64 00:04:07,620 --> 00:04:10,320 clap my hands and he flew off and then the chicken get jumped 65 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,060 up and ran under the deck. So okay. 66 00:04:12,090 --> 00:04:17,310 Oh, man. Good to go. Chickens. Dave Jones. Save your chickens 67 00:04:17,310 --> 00:04:18,150 everywhere. 68 00:04:18,689 --> 00:04:22,619 Yeah, our yard has evidently become known as the most halt as 69 00:04:22,619 --> 00:04:23,819 the place to get cheap fresh. 70 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:26,700 Like cafeteria. 71 00:04:28,260 --> 00:04:30,450 Good. Meat, meat and three. 72 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:35,370 Well, I had a very I had a very late night myself not fighting 73 00:04:35,370 --> 00:04:40,470 with with Hawks. I did learn a lot about lnd last night. 74 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:45,270 Yeah, I was such a douche. You. You were clearly dealing with 75 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:46,620 something and I just want the best. 76 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:51,600 So everyone went to bed. So let me explain the product. Let me 77 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,030 explain the problem. I'll tell you what happened. Okay, okay. 78 00:04:54,810 --> 00:04:59,250 So all of a sudden podcast index is not routing to my node at 79 00:04:59,250 --> 00:05:02,760 home. And that's kind of my monitor, you know. So I have 80 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:07,080 very like a 1% split of a lot of different shows just so I can 81 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,690 see the booster grams, etc. And it's not routing anymore. Now I 82 00:05:12,690 --> 00:05:16,380 have channels I can key send from the index to my note all of 83 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:20,250 that works. And I'm just like, What is going on here? And so, 84 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:23,190 you know, I had three or four channels, I had this mysterious 85 00:05:23,190 --> 00:05:27,240 channel for something called Justin Trudeau, which has just 86 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,750 been sitting there for a while but has been sending SATs. 87 00:05:31,019 --> 00:05:33,149 Is it him? Is it actually I don't know. 88 00:05:33,150 --> 00:05:36,570 But Justin Trudeau is node is connected to a lot of podcasting 89 00:05:36,570 --> 00:05:40,980 2.0 stuff. And, and I have to be honest, that the name really 90 00:05:40,980 --> 00:05:44,850 turned me off. So, yeah, so I'm messing with all this. Alright, 91 00:05:44,850 --> 00:05:47,280 let me close these channels, let me get rid of fucking Justin 92 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:50,220 Trudeau stuff, well, then nothing came through booths 93 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:52,920 wouldn't come through. So apparently, the Justin Trudeau 94 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:57,870 channel had been providing me with at least some booster grams 95 00:05:58,110 --> 00:06:00,840 for quite a while and the podcast index channels were 96 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:04,140 doing nothing. And then as I'm looking around, I'm seeing that 97 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:12,000 there's different channels across the board. With, you 98 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,640 know, some that we've open to other nodes that have this 99 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,850 similar problem. That's like, Okay, let me see what's going 100 00:06:17,850 --> 00:06:22,110 on. So I really can't figure it out. I do not know what's 101 00:06:22,110 --> 00:06:25,140 happening. Now, of course, I've updated my Umbral, we've updated 102 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:29,340 the podcast index node, everyone's running on lnd 15.01, 103 00:06:29,340 --> 00:06:33,270 slash beta up your butt. Who knows what that is? If all it 104 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:37,080 could be anywhere at this point. So I ping Graham, and this is 105 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,010 now 930. Because okay, I'm just not getting I'm not getting 106 00:06:41,010 --> 00:06:44,820 boosts. I'm not getting streaming SATs, nothing. 107 00:06:45,450 --> 00:06:48,000 For those people that don't know, Graham, he's He does, He 108 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,710 doesn't sleep he's made of metal. And in Vudu, I mean, he's 109 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:55,440 so just like, at any time of the night he in response, 110 00:06:55,950 --> 00:07:02,790 at 1115, he cut out. He's like, man, I was up really late last 111 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:05,220 night, I gotta hit the hair, I'm gonna make mistakes. It's okay. 112 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:07,920 It's alright. But we did figure out a couple of things. And one 113 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:14,310 is that my chant, none of my channels were syncing to any, to 114 00:07:14,310 --> 00:07:19,170 any other channels. So my node wasn't syncing to any other node 115 00:07:19,170 --> 00:07:23,340 through a channel. And it turns out, there's a set number, 116 00:07:23,580 --> 00:07:27,390 channel sync peers, and that's default is three. And 117 00:07:27,390 --> 00:07:31,140 apparently, our node had none. So that was part of the problem, 118 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:32,640 because, well, 119 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:37,290 now I don't I don't understand what what is the setting or 120 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:38,700 configuration parameter do. 121 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:44,610 So when you open it, so what you have channels that are open, and 122 00:07:45,180 --> 00:07:49,470 the way that your node tells the rest of the world, what channels 123 00:07:49,470 --> 00:07:52,950 you have open is by an update to the graph. And the graph itself 124 00:07:53,130 --> 00:07:59,040 works through the peers. So when your node starts up, by default, 125 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,700 it selects three peers. I don't know what criteria I'm sure that 126 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,690 it has some. And it then syncs your graph with that peer, and 127 00:08:06,690 --> 00:08:09,480 then that peer supposedly will sync with, you know, so that's 128 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:11,190 kind of how the graph gets out there. 129 00:08:11,339 --> 00:08:13,889 It's the it's the gossip is the way it gossip, the gossip. 130 00:08:13,890 --> 00:08:17,130 Yes, thank you. Now, meanwhile, I'm looking at the logs. And I'm 131 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:19,950 trying to find out, why are these sets not coming through. 132 00:08:19,950 --> 00:08:25,230 And this is a, this was very educational for me, the way 133 00:08:25,230 --> 00:08:30,330 developers sometimes communicate through logs, 134 00:08:30,870 --> 00:08:31,770 or lack thereof? 135 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,990 Well, so I would get these error messages consistently, which to 136 00:08:36,990 --> 00:08:39,810 me meant, okay, it's trying to send me one sat or something. 137 00:08:40,290 --> 00:08:45,330 And it would say, can't can't re forward, insufficient bandwidth 138 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:52,110 to forward HPLC. So I kind of understand the HPLC and 139 00:08:52,110 --> 00:08:54,870 forwarding that and that's no way to decipher where it's 140 00:08:54,870 --> 00:08:58,680 trying to forward to. But insufficient bandwidth is a 141 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,350 weird term. So the first thing I do is I'm like, oh, maybe my 142 00:09:01,350 --> 00:09:06,720 node popped on, on this on the Starlink. And let me I'm looking 143 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,320 at bandwidth, right? I'm like, maybe Tor is under attack. 144 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,220 Graham said that too. Now, there's been some DDoS on Tor to 145 00:09:15,450 --> 00:09:19,380 maybe somehow my node came back up and switch to the satellite 146 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:22,260 network. And maybe that's the problem. So it took me a good 45 147 00:09:22,260 --> 00:09:26,940 minutes before I was able to find in some GitHub issue. No, 148 00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:29,520 no, this is just how we report when there's not enough 149 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:35,010 liquidity to get to wherever suppose and forward considering 150 00:09:35,370 --> 00:09:38,310 payment fees, etc. Okay, 151 00:09:38,340 --> 00:09:43,560 tear this is a terrible, very bad, terrible way to describe 152 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:50,130 it. The word choice here is typical, developer complete, 153 00:09:50,820 --> 00:09:54,030 garbage like condition that should that term should never 154 00:09:54,030 --> 00:09:55,500 have been used for that description, 155 00:09:55,560 --> 00:10:00,240 but I can also see in building the light and light Lightning 156 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,270 Network and I can see Adam and de fucking around building this 157 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,120 and then we'll be like, Hey, man, it's just like the old 158 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,110 peering of bandwidth. You know, let's, so we'll just we'll just 159 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:13,440 look at it as bandwidth not as value. You know, I don't know, I 160 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:19,350 can see how that happened. But down the road Young. Exactly, I 161 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:21,630 would have said, this is a great name, and then you would have 162 00:10:21,630 --> 00:10:28,230 gotten down and now let's not do so. So. Okay, so basically, any 163 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:31,470 channels that were created when these peers were not syncing, 164 00:10:31,740 --> 00:10:35,760 never got synced to the graph, and were acting kind of as just 165 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,330 private channels, because no one knew about them. And apparently, 166 00:10:39,330 --> 00:10:42,030 l&d does not go back later and say, Hey, let me check and make 167 00:10:42,030 --> 00:10:46,710 sure that everyone's everyone's communicated to the graph. So 168 00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:51,690 you know, it just took me a long time to close and open channels 169 00:10:51,690 --> 00:10:55,290 and make sure that they were showing up on em boss, and then 170 00:10:55,290 --> 00:10:57,030 we finally got to work. And as you can hear, there's many 171 00:10:57,030 --> 00:11:01,770 pupils coming through. So. And once again, I'm amazed that any 172 00:11:01,770 --> 00:11:06,870 of this shit works at all. Oh, 173 00:11:06,929 --> 00:11:14,189 is same. So you sent me this is this is related in this. In 174 00:11:14,189 --> 00:11:21,269 terms of terminology. You had sent me a document about 175 00:11:21,299 --> 00:11:25,919 lightning node Connect? Yeah, maybe about a week ago or so a 176 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:29,639 couple weeks ago. And had written in my notes, we didn't 177 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:32,279 talk about it at the time on the last show, but I'd written in my 178 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:35,489 notes, this, this type of language in a spec is 179 00:11:35,489 --> 00:11:40,259 infuriating. And in a in, here's the quote, this is from this, 180 00:11:40,289 --> 00:11:44,099 the spec for lightning node Connect. Lightning node Connect 181 00:11:44,099 --> 00:11:48,149 is a protocol that allows a node operator to safely and easily 182 00:11:48,149 --> 00:11:52,259 connect a web or mobile application valency does not 183 00:11:52,259 --> 00:11:56,579 require the node to expose any ports. Instead, the application 184 00:11:56,579 --> 00:11:58,589 and the node are connected through a proxy server called 185 00:11:58,589 --> 00:12:01,829 the mailbox, the connection between node and application are 186 00:12:01,829 --> 00:12:08,189 end to end encrypted. Okay. From that wording, do you have any 187 00:12:08,189 --> 00:12:09,599 idea of what this thing? No, no, I 188 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,560 have no clue. I don't even remember what I sent you. I know 189 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,050 it was something that I liked. But I don't think I read the 190 00:12:16,050 --> 00:12:19,110 specs or anything. I think I just read like the marketing 191 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:19,620 doc. 192 00:12:19,890 --> 00:12:22,860 This is the top line paragraph graph of the intro. 193 00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:26,730 Why did I even send that to you? Why did I send that to you? 194 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:29,400 I mean, what's not? What's an operator? What does that mean? 195 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Is that is that the you know, is that me? Because I mean, is that 196 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,220 a human being? Because I can't connect to some mobile 197 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:38,760 application? Was it allowing the operator to connect? I don't 198 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,640 know what this means. I don't know. Developers should not 199 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,520 write documentation. Or logs, 200 00:12:44,670 --> 00:12:49,290 yet. Seems like you're very good at it. Yeah, well, I'm the 201 00:12:49,290 --> 00:13:01,410 exception. Well, speaking of, of documentation, I'm very pleased 202 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,660 that James Cridland heard the call, took took up the challenge 203 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,550 and started building the podcast namespace.org. 204 00:13:13,170 --> 00:13:15,120 Very green. Now, 205 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:20,220 he did exactly what I hoped would be done is take take the 206 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:23,010 whatever branding, make it your own, you know, make sure it's 207 00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:26,010 all connected, you know, don't try and make an island. And he 208 00:13:26,010 --> 00:13:30,240 seems to make it open if people jump in. I don't know if he does 209 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,710 he have collaborators yet if people offered to help, because 210 00:13:34,740 --> 00:13:37,260 that's going to take some time to fill all that out. Man, 211 00:13:37,260 --> 00:13:40,560 there's a lot of writing to be done. And a lot of work. 212 00:13:40,919 --> 00:13:43,979 Let's go to edit this website, which is a GitHub repository. 213 00:13:44,279 --> 00:13:51,059 And this website. Yeah, let's see what the commits are. Every 214 00:13:51,059 --> 00:13:53,429 single commit is James Kirtland. So nobody is helping with this 215 00:13:53,429 --> 00:13:53,939 web site. 216 00:13:55,020 --> 00:13:57,810 That's, that's not cool people. James Shea. 217 00:13:57,809 --> 00:14:01,739 But But James, this has about 5000 commits here. So he's, he's 218 00:14:02,069 --> 00:14:05,669 Holy crap. He's doing he's he's doing the Lord's work. That's 219 00:14:05,669 --> 00:14:08,249 for sure. Yeah. What's it is James created, there's 220 00:14:08,249 --> 00:14:12,539 github.com/james Cridland slash podcast. namespace.org. If 221 00:14:12,539 --> 00:14:14,339 anybody wants to go and pitch in, 222 00:14:14,549 --> 00:14:18,599 like, you can just go to podcast. namespace.org. Yeah. 223 00:14:18,599 --> 00:14:18,719 And 224 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,840 then you can click on the edit this website at the very bottom 225 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,740 left. Oh, I 226 00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:24,090 see what you're saying. Okay. 227 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:27,810 And that will take you to the GitHub repo. Yeah, I 228 00:14:27,810 --> 00:14:29,910 like this a lot. I like it a lot. 229 00:14:30,330 --> 00:14:33,450 Can you tell me this party? Because James was saying this 230 00:14:33,450 --> 00:14:36,600 morning that as part of trying to find example, screenshots and 231 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,880 stuff like that for these tags. He's trying to find, as is, you 232 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,080 know, based on the news today, obvious why. He's trying to find 233 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,150 examples of transcript transcripts on various apps and 234 00:14:51,150 --> 00:14:58,710 how in screenshots and demo videos. Do we know if podcast 235 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:02,700 addict does too Transcripts because I could have sworn it 236 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:03,210 did. 237 00:15:04,260 --> 00:15:08,640 I think I have it. I think I have podcast addict Toronto 238 00:15:09,690 --> 00:15:15,030 is it it's showing transcript in the supported tag list on the 239 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:18,840 site, but he said he couldn't you he, he couldn't get it to 240 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,260 work and I don't have an Android phone so I don't know how to 241 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:22,830 test it. 242 00:15:23,699 --> 00:15:27,629 I do have an Android phone. Let me test I will in fact, I will 243 00:15:27,629 --> 00:15:42,779 test one with episodes. We test this one we see visit that's the 244 00:15:42,779 --> 00:15:44,939 show notes. Okay, hold on a second. 245 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:53,339 Unnecessary devices. Now let me add paddle. Well, here's here's 246 00:15:53,339 --> 00:15:57,269 something Okay. Here's something that we need to we need to talk 247 00:15:57,269 --> 00:16:00,569 about with with James. He doesn't have transcripts in his 248 00:16:00,569 --> 00:16:01,289 own shows. 249 00:16:01,380 --> 00:16:05,580 No, I thought he did. I think pod land has no iPod news pod 250 00:16:05,580 --> 00:16:08,190 way. And now I'm pretty sure pod land has transcripts? I think 251 00:16:08,190 --> 00:16:14,460 so. I've seen them I've just don't they come out of 252 00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:16,410 Buzzsprout automagically. 253 00:16:16,890 --> 00:16:19,410 No, you gotta do it. I think it's an extra step when they 254 00:16:19,410 --> 00:16:20,160 hold on. 255 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:23,730 While you're looking at the feed while I'm like I'm not gonna 256 00:16:23,730 --> 00:16:25,860 argue with that. If you're looking at the feed, and I'm 257 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:26,070 gonna 258 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:30,180 Well, I'm I'm opening it right now. Looking at the guy yeah, 259 00:16:30,180 --> 00:16:33,570 you live white man speak with forked tongue. Let me see. 260 00:16:33,690 --> 00:16:38,550 Oh, here it is. Okay, we're both right. How can that they did not 261 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:43,230 have any transcripts up until up until the last two episodes are 262 00:16:43,230 --> 00:16:46,290 the first ones that have transcript. Okay. So Well, the 263 00:16:46,290 --> 00:16:49,590 first 90 episodes did not have to let 264 00:16:49,589 --> 00:16:54,539 me say something about transcripts. Because the news is 265 00:16:54,539 --> 00:16:59,129 there was a lawsuit against I think Sirius XM, who own where 266 00:16:59,129 --> 00:17:02,999 they own Sirius podcast, one XM, whatever, they have 267 00:17:03,150 --> 00:17:04,890 Pandora building on Pandora. 268 00:17:05,430 --> 00:17:09,030 Right? But they have, they have a podcast, what they buy that 269 00:17:09,030 --> 00:17:12,930 pod bean, they bought something. Anyway, so that egg, they got a 270 00:17:12,930 --> 00:17:19,080 lot of shows high end talent, etc. So someone and I happen to 271 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,770 know a lot about this. I know a lot about the American with 272 00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:26,760 Disabilities Act, I know all the ins and outs dealt with it in 273 00:17:27,090 --> 00:17:32,910 many different versions, my wife has dealt with it. And all 274 00:17:32,910 --> 00:17:39,900 positive, because the bottom line is complying with the ADA, 275 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:43,860 the Americans with Disabilities Act comes into play when, when 276 00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:50,220 it is something that is a public good. So in the case of the 277 00:17:50,220 --> 00:17:54,180 Ronald McDonald, house, charities were Tina worked. 278 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:59,220 Whenever they did a video on their website, they had to have 279 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:03,990 not just a captions or transcript is different, but 280 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:08,370 captions, they also had to have, you know, a secondary track that 281 00:18:08,370 --> 00:18:12,720 says man enters the room with a blue manager's room with a blue 282 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,590 sweater on, you know, that kind of stuff. Because that is a 283 00:18:16,590 --> 00:18:20,010 public good that people, the public need to be able to find 284 00:18:20,010 --> 00:18:22,860 out about to make use of this facility, even though it's 285 00:18:22,860 --> 00:18:28,830 private. It's a private nonprofit. Okay. Now, for 286 00:18:28,830 --> 00:18:31,860 entertainment shows, I do not see the need for that. 287 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:35,850 Personally, I don't see why not. Um, let's just put that upfront, 288 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,680 it makes no sense. It's super easy. There's tons of places you 289 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,330 can get it, it makes no sense to just integrate that it really, 290 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,610 it's crazy not to do that. However, I do not believe any 291 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:54,180 company should be forced, certainly not. And I think 292 00:18:54,180 --> 00:18:58,260 James's words were big commercial companies should be 293 00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:02,100 forced to do anything. You know, if it's under the guidelines of 294 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,920 a public thing, you know, then alright, that's different. But 295 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,680 it's not just, you're a big commercial company. In fact, I 296 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,010 really despise that. Because the next thing that's going to come 297 00:19:11,010 --> 00:19:14,550 down the pike is even though he jokingly does it, if you're a 298 00:19:14,550 --> 00:19:18,450 commercial podcast every single time you mentioned someone who 299 00:19:18,450 --> 00:19:22,380 sponsors you, you have to say it, I'm sponsored by them. 300 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:26,610 That's what this leads to. So I'm not a fan of mandating that 301 00:19:26,610 --> 00:19:32,250 just because, you know, just, you know what I mean? I think 302 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:36,870 the law is fair, when it's a public good. We need the same 303 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:41,490 like we need wheelchair ramps and different bathroom 304 00:19:41,490 --> 00:19:44,160 facilities. I'm okay with all that. That makes sense. And 305 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,620 that's been argued and that's been you know, there's laws 306 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:49,650 about that, but not just because you're big and commercial. 307 00:19:51,420 --> 00:19:55,710 No, I I'd say I think I think I would agree with that just 308 00:19:55,710 --> 00:19:58,290 because you're big and commercial angle to that I think 309 00:19:59,670 --> 00:20:04,020 the plant The playing field has to be fair, across the board. I 310 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:07,710 mean, otherwise, you run into a situation where you have just 311 00:20:07,710 --> 00:20:11,100 like was in the US for that I'm sure a lot of other countries 312 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:16,290 for a long time, you had this, you had Amazon that enjoyed a 313 00:20:16,530 --> 00:20:21,780 note, a no state tax, you know, lifestyle where they didn't have 314 00:20:21,780 --> 00:20:25,080 to pay state taxes, therefore, there was always an advantage to 315 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,950 ordering Amazon versus shopping at your local store. Because the 316 00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:31,650 local store had to pay you had to pay local city and still in 317 00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:35,970 state taxes when Amazon did not. And so it was just basically a 318 00:20:35,970 --> 00:20:40,110 huge unfair advantage. Propping up of a big corporation. I mean, 319 00:20:40,110 --> 00:20:43,860 in well, we saw the same thing during the pandemic. Yeah, the 320 00:20:43,950 --> 00:20:47,580 local mom and pop shops got shut down, you know, in droves. And 321 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:51,450 the only the only stores that could stay open were Amazon. 322 00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:54,570 Amazon, Walmart. Right? 323 00:20:54,930 --> 00:20:56,040 Right. Yeah, sure. Sure. 324 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:01,560 Yeah, oh, there just has to be there has to be balance in the 325 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,720 way the law is applied. Otherwise, you end up with with 326 00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:09,570 it, otherwise, you end up with favoritism in one direction or 327 00:21:09,570 --> 00:21:12,090 the other, you know, the big companies should not be unfairly 328 00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:14,970 punished themselves. Small companies should not be unfairly 329 00:21:14,970 --> 00:21:17,820 punished. They shouldn't. Everybody should be equal under 330 00:21:17,820 --> 00:21:21,750 the law. I don't. I think the problem here though, and then 331 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:25,830 having to figure that out is what qualifies, I guess what 332 00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:30,330 qualifies as a public? As a public good, because we can, we 333 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:36,480 can see this, this is what this is what case law becomes what it 334 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,570 becomes? Because Absolutely, when you when you first 335 00:21:39,570 --> 00:21:41,970 published something like, you know, when you when you put in 336 00:21:41,970 --> 00:21:45,870 an amendment to the to the US Constitution, about interstate 337 00:21:45,870 --> 00:21:50,460 commerce, or, you know, equal protection, will they go in 338 00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:53,340 meaning one set of things will then eventually they always 339 00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:58,260 become, you can morph lots of things to fit the definition of 340 00:21:58,260 --> 00:22:02,430 that other of that original meaning sure, in the like, I'm 341 00:22:02,430 --> 00:22:07,770 not sure that there's a clear, public good seems, seems vague 342 00:22:07,770 --> 00:22:13,650 enough to be able to apply a lot of a lot of stuff to it. I 343 00:22:13,650 --> 00:22:17,790 prefer, like, you know, I mean, maybe it's just my libertarian 344 00:22:17,790 --> 00:22:27,330 tendencies here. But I prefer the idea of let letting you 345 00:22:27,330 --> 00:22:29,490 could call it the marketplace, but I don't, I don't really like 346 00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:33,120 that term in this in this scenario, you could let pressure 347 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:40,440 be applied by by people who have an interest in so I mean, you 348 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:46,560 know, the lawsuit is one thing, but then also, boycotts are long 349 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,060 standing, you know, unions cropped up for this reason, in 350 00:22:51,060 --> 00:22:56,970 the day, like that society will self correct a lot of things 351 00:22:57,510 --> 00:23:02,250 without have without needing the hand of government do it. And 352 00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:05,190 you know, and I understand that, you know, there's always going 353 00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:07,380 to be counter arguments to this, I don't really want to get 354 00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:12,990 involved in that. But, but you can see, society shifts in lots 355 00:23:12,990 --> 00:23:17,130 of ways over time, that did not depend on the government to do 356 00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:21,090 things sometimes in spite of the government trying to do it. Look 357 00:23:21,090 --> 00:23:24,180 at a look at marijuana legalization that never came 358 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:28,350 from government that purely came in it was it was ripped from the 359 00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:32,790 hands of government by by society. And, and the public 360 00:23:33,030 --> 00:23:36,000 said, we're not going to handle it, we're not going to take this 361 00:23:36,030 --> 00:23:39,420 anymore. We want this thing to change, and it's going to change 362 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:40,410 in 363 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:45,180 it. And that's how we wind up with 87,000 More IRS agents 364 00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:51,630 because we're so against it. I have definitions for you. Okay, 365 00:23:51,660 --> 00:23:56,070 although none of this was written with any online media in 366 00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:59,250 mind. And most of it only applies to video not even to 367 00:23:59,250 --> 00:24:04,800 podcasts. I don't think audio has, as has been addressed 368 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,480 specifically in any of the law. Captioning or transcripts are 369 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,260 required for public entities, including state and local 370 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:16,830 governments of both internal and external communications, and 371 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:21,870 places of public accommodations, which are public or private 372 00:24:21,870 --> 00:24:26,250 businesses used by the public at large, private clubs and 373 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:29,460 religious organizations are exempt. So there's still a lot 374 00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:30,630 of wiggle room in there 375 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:34,680 in public or private businesses used by the society at large. I 376 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,010 mean, that that could be easily be a podcast app. Yeah, 377 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:46,560 yeah. Yeah. Okay. But But bottom line is we I think what you said 378 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,870 is it these companies who don't do it, when they easily can, I 379 00:24:51,870 --> 00:24:55,410 mean, certainly we have it, we have it on this show. They 380 00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:58,290 should just be shamed. I don't have to penalize them. I don't 381 00:24:58,290 --> 00:25:01,320 give a shit about that. I don't want that I I despise that part 382 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,830 the most. 383 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,650 I think people do not appreciate. I think many people 384 00:25:07,650 --> 00:25:16,950 do not appreciate the power of, of the public. Social wave OMA, 385 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,350 I don't really know what term to us. 386 00:25:19,530 --> 00:25:22,200 Oh, no, no, no, no, they care, but only when it's about a 387 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,530 celebrity or something else. They do not get you're gonna 388 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,090 trust me on this. Yeah. This has been going on for a long time. 389 00:25:30,270 --> 00:25:34,110 There's not enough people who care to make noise about this. 390 00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:36,750 They don't care. Do you hear that? Deaf people? People don't 391 00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:40,710 care. People don't care about you. And I can't believe I said 392 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:42,210 that. Do you hear that deaf people 393 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,250 will never be invited on to the Deaf podcast. 394 00:25:44,459 --> 00:25:47,669 Yes, I will. They love me. They love me. Deaf and Blind. 395 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:49,169 podcasters love me, man. 396 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,200 They're just getting to this part of the Braille so 397 00:25:52,949 --> 00:25:53,849 not Braille. 398 00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:57,630 or what have you. How does that even work? If you're actually 399 00:25:57,630 --> 00:25:59,820 deaf? You got to have something you can't listen to a 400 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:03,570 podcast. That's why you need a transcript. Oh, because you 401 00:26:03,570 --> 00:26:05,940 still got eyeballs? Yeah, yeah, 402 00:26:05,970 --> 00:26:10,050 exactly. That's it's I would say it's more for people who are 403 00:26:10,050 --> 00:26:13,980 hard of hearing but we have so many foreign listeners who love 404 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:16,110 it. It's like oh, you know, I miss some stuff and I can read 405 00:26:16,110 --> 00:26:20,130 along and it's it kind of helps. And I grew up in a country that 406 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:24,570 had subtitles so it's second nature for me and I see only 407 00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:25,140 benefit 408 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,200 the beautiful The beautiful thing about podcast transcripts 409 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,970 too is that like what I was just saying about taking time to 410 00:26:32,970 --> 00:26:36,480 catch up like it is on television or or actual Braille 411 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,930 if you have to read Braille because I evidently don't know 412 00:26:39,930 --> 00:26:43,350 the difference between blind people and deaf people sorry the 413 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,290 there's a reason for that by the way is a completely free from 414 00:26:49,290 --> 00:26:53,370 this week but the you know podcast transcripts every every 415 00:26:53,370 --> 00:26:56,580 example of a podcast app I've seen there that does transcripts 416 00:26:56,580 --> 00:26:59,280 they're like immediate man there Johnny on the spot. It's 417 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,170 tracking really good. Yeah. With the spoken word. Yeah. No delay 418 00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:06,600 like there is with closed can own broadcast television. 419 00:27:06,869 --> 00:27:12,539 Now well, that's real time stuff. And yeah. Okay, what else 420 00:27:12,539 --> 00:27:14,249 was I going to say here? 421 00:27:16,860 --> 00:27:26,670 Well, I get the the idea about what I totally lost my note 422 00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:33,150 here. Oh, I've got I brought some some clips. I had a in 423 00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:38,070 this. This may also work into this week. If you think of it 424 00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:40,020 anytime we need to stop and bring our guests and just 425 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:43,290 Yeah, after you. Let's do some clips and we'll bring our guests 426 00:27:43,290 --> 00:27:44,670 and I think would be appropriate. 427 00:27:45,090 --> 00:27:48,420 Maybe we should bring together a guest in first and do clips with 428 00:27:48,420 --> 00:27:50,160 the Are you sure but the guest 429 00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:52,680 Yeah, she commands a lot of attention. 430 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,800 I'm 100% in favor of this. 431 00:27:56,820 --> 00:28:00,480 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the podcasting 2.0 432 00:28:00,510 --> 00:28:05,880 boardroom one of the first video value for value podcasters Hey, 433 00:28:05,910 --> 00:28:08,820 it's alright Brian of London I know three speak was probably 434 00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:15,420 before would also dame of the no agenda roundtable. And friend 435 00:28:15,420 --> 00:28:18,420 please welcome Dane Jennifer. 436 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:20,010 Hey, guys. 437 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,290 Hey. Yeah, we got a full on Hey, guys night. Yeah, 438 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,320 I was wondering if I should do the NPR. Hi. Well, I 439 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,520 was I was that would have been actually let's let's re intro 440 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,350 you. I wanted to just so people know who named Jennifer is she's 441 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:40,500 been around since almost the beginning of this show as well 442 00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,720 with her perfect jingles. Now 443 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,530 it's time for some hot namespace talk. 444 00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:52,680 Which we subsequently banned for a while because we felt you 445 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,180 know, there was like no women on the show ever broke that rule. 446 00:28:57,210 --> 00:29:01,320 But yeah, we fix it. Yes. We fixed it. Yeah, your 447 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,150 ESG score is up by one. Yes. 448 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:05,460 The token woman. 449 00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:09,990 Yeah, sorry. I'm white and sis and hetero. So I don't 450 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,510 know. Yeah. Well, welcome to The Club. Yeah. But you're female. 451 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:18,720 So you have woman point? Yeah, exactly. Get some point. We get 452 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,980 some points for that. You know, and I was talking with with Tina 453 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:29,430 last night. And it was kind of like, what to what exactly does 454 00:29:29,670 --> 00:29:33,480 Dame Jennifer do? You know, because you have all these 455 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,590 talents. You organize? Regular meetups, you organize meetups 456 00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:41,370 for no agenda. You've organized I think you do Bitcoin meetups. 457 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:51,270 You clearly the queen of Charleston. You know you took 458 00:29:51,270 --> 00:29:53,970 such good care of us when we were there and everybody knows 459 00:29:53,970 --> 00:29:59,970 you as like, oh Jennifer. And and you know you're you're it's 460 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,950 It's fascinating, smart person. And I like Thank you. What does 461 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:12,390 she do? Other than other than jingles other than videos? You 462 00:30:12,390 --> 00:30:15,960 know, this animated no agenda is, I mean, you're the first 463 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,410 ever saw using this tool. And I mean, you've been you've I don't 464 00:30:19,410 --> 00:30:22,440 know how many you've produced so far, but it's unbelievable. It's 465 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,120 been unbelievable for the show. You know, you do corporate 466 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,630 voiceovers, I think you do marketing, you know. And now, do 467 00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:33,660 you just have a trust fund and you hang out with people or do 468 00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:34,620 you have a job? 469 00:30:35,010 --> 00:30:39,630 Yeah, according to you that I have an island off the coast of? 470 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:43,230 Yeah, exactly. Yes. You have that island. And then you just 471 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:45,750 come inland for a bit to hang out with the plebs? 472 00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:53,790 No, I, I have been. I was well married. And my neck will 473 00:30:53,790 --> 00:30:54,480 marry well. 474 00:30:55,290 --> 00:30:57,630 We were all well married her. Yeah. 475 00:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,680 Unfortunately, that has ended. And so is that 476 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,590 the scent now? Is that the same for roses? Is that the same as 477 00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:07,260 what they used to be called a kept woman? Were you a kept 478 00:31:07,260 --> 00:31:07,740 woman? 479 00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:09,810 No, I just 480 00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:12,840 know, because I knew you before the divorce. 481 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:20,940 Yeah, I wasn't I mean, working? Yeah, he, he owned a small IT 482 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:22,200 services company 483 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:25,650 on this island? Yeah, of course. This was when we 484 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:30,570 were in, in Chicago. And so I, I kind of started working in the 485 00:31:30,570 --> 00:31:32,940 business. And then I would just pick up I became kind of a Girl 486 00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:37,260 Friday. So these small, whatever. 487 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,170 Now it makes so much sense. Okay, 488 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,180 I don't know what this term mean. Can you explain to me 489 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,050 girlfriend, let 490 00:31:43,050 --> 00:31:45,690 me let me try. And let's see if that matches up with Jennifer. 491 00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:49,140 Because I've hired many girl and boy Fridays, these are this 492 00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:53,310 makes so much sense. In a company, typically someone who 493 00:31:53,310 --> 00:31:57,540 was in early at the formation at the startup, you know, employee 494 00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:01,710 number two or number three. And this is just a person who may be 495 00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:08,520 applied initially, to be to, like office management or 496 00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:13,230 whatever. And they turn out to be so skilled in so like from 497 00:32:13,230 --> 00:32:17,460 software integration packages to you name it, all kinds of stuff. 498 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,900 And so it's kind of like this person is in every meeting. And 499 00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,810 it's when no one knows what the fuck to do is like, Hey, do you 500 00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:28,260 know how to do it? Don't worry, I'm I'll figure it out. Does 501 00:32:28,260 --> 00:32:30,120 that kind of match? 502 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,930 Ah, absolutely. If there were, if there was something that, you 503 00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:37,020 know, the client would throw up against the wall, and if it 504 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:42,600 sounded interesting, I'd figure it out. So yeah, so I do have 505 00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:46,230 some marketing and yeah, of course, the voiceover but I also 506 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:50,970 did, like, I've got certified as a Microsoft, Small Business 507 00:32:50,970 --> 00:32:51,960 Server Administrator. 508 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,980 All Over the Map. 509 00:32:57,420 --> 00:33:01,020 I wasn't I wasn't meeting planner for a long time. Did a 510 00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:04,740 huge conference of 7000 people in New Orleans. Yeah, like so. 511 00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:09,150 Girl Friday, it just seems to kind of be the best. So that's 512 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:11,280 why I'm not surprised that people don't know what I do. 513 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,720 Because, you know, it's kind of Jack or Jill of all trades. And, 514 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,500 and I hate saying that. It does sound cheesy, but no, it just 515 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:20,700 fits what yeah, 516 00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:26,130 it just clicked for me like oh, okay, totally makes sense. Well, 517 00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:31,710 yeah. So we're even perhaps even more appreciative of of the time 518 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:34,890 talent and treasure that you put in of which it's all three 519 00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:37,950 because you actually charge actual money for the stuff that 520 00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:43,500 you're doing for us Yeah, you're not just hanging out doing a 521 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:47,280 little bit of podcasting and by the way, the animated no agenda 522 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,060 I mean, that's those are serious productions. It's that's not 523 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:53,310 just something you throw together how long does it take 524 00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:56,550 you to do each minute worth of work if you can calculate it 525 00:33:56,550 --> 00:33:57,000 that way? 526 00:33:57,060 --> 00:34:02,190 I I'm down to not including listening to every episode twice 527 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:06,690 to three hours per minute. Well, you know, you have to listen 528 00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:13,890 twice and then you know, but there were there was a few 529 00:34:13,890 --> 00:34:17,100 months where there was just nothing funny because I like to 530 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:17,370 bring 531 00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:21,060 OH, OH 532 00:34:28,350 --> 00:34:32,700 That came out wrong. It was not funny because the humor was in 533 00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:33,150 like, 534 00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:35,040 Hold on. Hold on a second. 535 00:34:36,090 --> 00:34:39,270 Let me dig in the grave. 536 00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:45,510 Nevermind. I was going through a divorce and my boyfriend broke 537 00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:46,680 up with me. Come on, you guys. 538 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:51,240 That's what wasn't funny. Was was not funny at all. 539 00:34:53,369 --> 00:34:57,299 No, there were just things were so bleak that I think even the 540 00:34:57,299 --> 00:35:01,199 small bits of humor. It was just It was really hard for me to do. 541 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:04,169 But I've gotten it down to about about three hours per minute 542 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:08,939 what now that I kind of, yeah, but they're only three minutes 543 00:35:08,939 --> 00:35:14,639 long, three and a half hours at work. Yeah, but there's a sweet 544 00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:18,629 spot because we, you know, you can see when people drop off, 545 00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:22,769 and we can hold them until almost the three minute mark, 546 00:35:22,769 --> 00:35:26,819 which I think is pretty good. Yeah. And so I don't I, you 547 00:35:26,819 --> 00:35:30,089 know, I enjoy doing the longer ones. But if you're going to 548 00:35:30,089 --> 00:35:32,549 lose them at three minutes, you know, don't leave the punch line 549 00:35:32,549 --> 00:35:33,569 to the end. So 550 00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:37,770 yeah, you learned you learned a lot about doing video for sure. 551 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,940 Yeah, it's been really fun. And my third anniversary is your 552 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:43,110 50th anniversary. 553 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,100 Oh, man. Is that when you did the first one? Yeah, it 554 00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:51,030 was for the for the 12th anniversary because I was short 555 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:53,820 on cash flow at the time. And I thought, well, I can't 556 00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:56,670 contribute treasure. I'm trying to learn this to me Girl Friday, 557 00:35:56,850 --> 00:36:00,870 trying to learn this tool for a client. And it suggested 558 00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:04,350 starting with an audio clip that was already produced and my 559 00:36:04,350 --> 00:36:07,230 client didn't have our script ready for what she wanted me to 560 00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:14,220 work on. So Sharpton had just said, gurgles Kurt you Yeah, 561 00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:17,250 instead of and I'm gonna say it wrong instead of Gamble's 562 00:36:19,050 --> 00:36:22,530 girdles. And it was like the funniest thing I've ever heard. 563 00:36:22,530 --> 00:36:24,930 And I, you know, got together 564 00:36:24,930 --> 00:36:29,760 and showed that to your client. That's not funny, 565 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,320 but I also I sent it to you guys for you know, like a happy 566 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,560 anniversary. Didn't put it on YouTube or anything. And then 567 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,350 the views started to go up and I went What the heck happened? And 568 00:36:40,350 --> 00:36:42,180 I saw that. Adam, you had tweeted it. 569 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,700 Oh, wow. Here we go. Have you turned that into a business? Was 570 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:51,420 that? Is that part of your business now? animations and 571 00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:51,780 things? 572 00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:55,920 No, it's just a hobby. I did. I did. Okay, I've done like three 573 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,090 other very small projects for people. But they were friends. 574 00:37:00,210 --> 00:37:00,870 So 575 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,360 well. It's the shit blows me away every single time. It 576 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,200 really does. Yeah, no, it does. Tina and I the one thing what 577 00:37:10,290 --> 00:37:15,090 does a new AMA? Oh, man, because that's something we get? Because 578 00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:18,180 that's new. I don't know what's going to come and pray and you 579 00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:21,900 edit these things. You edit out all the non funny things. In 580 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:25,170 fact, you could have edited out several months worth of non 581 00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:26,700 funny things. 582 00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:29,010 I can't believe 583 00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:32,550 you have no idea how red my face? 584 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,320 Come on. Jennifer, we're friends. Yeah, you can do 585 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:43,410 anything. You know, the minute I mean, actually very early on, 586 00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:47,010 you got this up and running on no agenda tube and you got the 587 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,140 value for value running. Take us through how that came about and 588 00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:54,570 and the steps that you went through? And just what was your 589 00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:59,820 experience as someone who clearly configure stuff out. But 590 00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:01,560 this was new as a so Yang, 591 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,510 and you're also one of the first very few people were using value 592 00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:10,800 for value with video. So this is yeah, this is instructed except 593 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,350 for three speak, which of course was there before? 594 00:38:14,190 --> 00:38:18,030 I keep forgetting? Yes. Okay. He's going to the hive Dao and 595 00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:20,400 Brian of London are going to, they're going to take away our 596 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,330 donations now. 597 00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:30,450 I don't remember the chicken and egg story. And Alex gates may 598 00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:34,950 remember better than I do. But when he created no agenda tube, 599 00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:38,670 I immediately went there. Because I had started getting a 600 00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:40,260 couple of takedowns on YouTube. 601 00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:45,390 What will you do? And oh, this was animated. No agenda. Yeah. 602 00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:49,200 And you know, why don't you know why got taken down? We were 603 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,120 telling the truth. That wasn't funny. It was not funny. But 604 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,810 these guys are not funny. Just kidding. Yeah. No, your answer 605 00:38:57,810 --> 00:39:01,170 was correct. Because never gonna live that out. I'll stop. I'll 606 00:39:01,170 --> 00:39:03,510 stop now. Stop. No, you're right, because we tell the 607 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:07,110 truth. But it also what you edited is always funny. It's 608 00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:07,920 always funny. 609 00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:10,710 Well, that's the that's the goal. Otherwise, 610 00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:13,830 why bother? Yeah, yeah. Because the 611 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,370 you're I'm trying to bring people to the show. And humor, I 612 00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:23,670 think is the best way to attract people. And so Alex was working 613 00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:29,490 on no agenda tube. And either he started to think about doing his 614 00:39:29,490 --> 00:39:36,000 own fork of it was based on peer tube, listening to you. Why, you 615 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,730 know, pick things up. I'm a little bit of a. 616 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,330 So you have a GitHub login. 617 00:39:42,990 --> 00:39:47,400 I just realized I ended up I used to, and then I just got 618 00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:54,840 because of the you know, the upcoming a hackathon. But um, so 619 00:39:55,410 --> 00:40:01,470 he he did a ton of work on his fork too. Make it podcasting 2.0 620 00:40:01,470 --> 00:40:04,770 compatible and every once awhile he would reach out and you know, 621 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:07,230 tell me to do something or something had changed and you 622 00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:11,790 know, Can I check it out and so anytime I would post on I call 623 00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:18,600 it YouTube then I would also put it on a no agenda tube and then 624 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:22,920 so first to support video I think was pod brand and or curio 625 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,940 caster I don't remember who was first of those. And then I think 626 00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:31,560 the only one other one is pod verse, right that supports video 627 00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:33,780 of the new apps you pod 628 00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:34,650 verse does 629 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,090 your pod verse, pod friend cheerio caster? Fountain. 630 00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:43,740 Right. And that's what's weird. I get fountain SATs every once 631 00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:45,570 in a while and I'm like, What are you people doing? 632 00:40:48,810 --> 00:40:52,800 Yeah, so that's interesting. I guess the audio works. Just 633 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,910 listening to Hey, listen a lot. 634 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:03,030 So Alex, just shout to you. Because Oh, because you will be 635 00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:07,230 uploading stuff on on no agenda tube got it. Okay, cool. Yeah, 636 00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,720 yeah. I just love seeing how these things come together. You 637 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:13,140 know, this is such a interesting community. Yeah, 638 00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:17,190 I think I mean, he he gets 100% of the credit of really, I, you 639 00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:21,540 know, I'm sure that at some point, I asked him, because I'm 640 00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:23,640 kind of annoying in that way. Like, hey, you know, there, 641 00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:27,360 you're talking about XYZ on podcasting. 2.0, can we have 642 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,490 that, but it was probably already on his roadmap. He 643 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,520 always seemed to kind of already have things in mind. So 644 00:41:36,660 --> 00:41:39,720 Alex was born with a plan in every day of his life is just 645 00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:44,580 working the plan. That's the way it goes much. I'm only a little 646 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:45,060 bit kidding. 647 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,400 Yeah, so that's kind of the history I you know, I would love 648 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,600 to see a more apps support it. But I know that it's a 649 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,800 completely different codec. And you have to deal with all of the 650 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,580 different, you know, resolutions and bandwidth and all that 651 00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:04,770 stuff. So I know, it's not an easy problem 652 00:42:04,830 --> 00:42:08,730 for the long term. Alternate enclosure will help that. But 653 00:42:08,730 --> 00:42:13,170 that's like, Yeah, I think of any, like, of any of the tags or 654 00:42:13,170 --> 00:42:17,280 any of the future, you know, forward looking things. I really 655 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,890 think alternate enclosure is probably the one that is the 656 00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:24,780 most far in the future, because it's going to just I think it's 657 00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:27,270 quite it's complex, because they know you're dealing with 658 00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:29,130 different, like you said, different codecs and things like 659 00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:32,280 that. And that's people, even developers don't want to deal 660 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,070 with that stuff. Exactly what they want. They want to just 661 00:42:35,070 --> 00:42:40,590 roll up in there with an mp3 and be done in lunch. So yeah, yeah. 662 00:42:40,890 --> 00:42:41,490 I mean, one day, 663 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,900 one day, I was surprised that I was surprised to learn, I would 664 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:50,670 say that the pod pod versus the player they're using for the for 665 00:42:50,670 --> 00:42:53,970 their app that it somehow is not appropriate to do per minute 666 00:42:53,970 --> 00:42:56,700 streaming SATs, which is a shame. I know. They'll get to 667 00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:01,230 it. I didn't realize. I wonder what that what that person when 668 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:05,490 would that problem is, anyway, not a big deal. I'm amazed any 669 00:43:05,490 --> 00:43:06,960 of this crap work is so cool. 670 00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:11,550 So would it be? Would it be fair to say that, would it be fair to 671 00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:13,800 describe your job as your consultant? 672 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,810 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of that's what I call myself on 673 00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:22,680 unlike LinkedIn, and I need new business cards, because right 674 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,440 now they're, they're like, so cringe, because I've had them 675 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,920 for 10 years. And they essentially say Jack of all 676 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,310 trades. 677 00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:33,630 Yeah. Well, here's your business card. Okay. If you if you have a 678 00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:37,080 company and you want to be successful, hire this woman. 679 00:43:37,620 --> 00:43:40,830 There we go. I like it. That's your business card right there. 680 00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:46,620 I look, you've done so much for me personally for the show. And 681 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:51,150 then the minute we were talking about hackathon for podcasting 682 00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:54,000 2.0 who raises their hand 683 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:55,740 me Yes. 684 00:43:57,570 --> 00:43:59,280 developer, you clearly 685 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,240 have the Bona fie days is how you say that word bonus, or is 686 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:03,750 it bonafide 687 00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:07,860 bonus depends on if you're from Alabama, it's bonafide. 688 00:44:09,150 --> 00:44:13,680 Well, you You clearly have the bona fides and then so Speak for 689 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,730 yourself South Carolina. 690 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,630 Now, sorry, you 691 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,640 know, you've clearly got you know, got the skills to to 692 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,380 consult on this topic. So what what, what do you what are your 693 00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:29,520 out of the gate salts? 694 00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:34,140 Um, well, I I talked to a good friend of mine who is an 695 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:37,710 entrepreneur, but also a developer and he has started a 696 00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:42,600 few companies and been successful. And so I said, Can 697 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,310 you look at that he's aware of, okay, 698 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,450 so those are the things that see the you were like, you're like 699 00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:53,250 developer, I'm like, check. That's me. Entrepreneur. We 700 00:44:53,250 --> 00:44:56,340 started Potkins a process index check. That's me. And then you 701 00:44:56,340 --> 00:45:04,230 said successful and I was like, that's where that's where So I 702 00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:06,750 have a pen and paper by the way, I'm writing these down because 703 00:45:06,750 --> 00:45:10,170 this is your consultant. So we this is the session, this is the 704 00:45:10,170 --> 00:45:10,890 session. This is 705 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,110 this is just the first meeting, you know, we're gonna have to 706 00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:15,090 have multiple them. But 707 00:45:16,049 --> 00:45:23,729 what, what? Thank you. Meetings? No, I got into podcasting to 708 00:45:23,729 --> 00:45:24,569 avoid that. 709 00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:26,880 Screw this hackathon. This is already about 710 00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:29,760 me. Now. This is my, this is my weekly mean, it's the one 711 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,480 meeting I need. 712 00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:35,130 No, you know, we can I can do this all in writing to, not to 713 00:45:35,130 --> 00:45:38,910 worry. But that one of the first things that he pointed out 714 00:45:38,910 --> 00:45:41,520 because he's aware of what podcasting 2.0 is, but he'd 715 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,240 never looked at the code or anything. So I sent him to the 716 00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:49,620 GitHub, I sent him to the API documentation. And he was like, 717 00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:55,680 first things first, where is the high level flowchart? And I 718 00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:02,340 won't, I'll, I'll bring it up. And I assume that I will be on 719 00:46:02,340 --> 00:46:06,000 me to create, which is fine. I don't, I don't mind it'll help 720 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,330 me 721 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,580 to create the high level flowchart of podcasting. 2.00 my 722 00:46:11,580 --> 00:46:15,180 god, that would be that would be astounding. Create the 723 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,510 high level flowchart and then do a pull request on James's 724 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:23,490 podcast. namespace.org. You go, I mean, then you've earned every 725 00:46:23,490 --> 00:46:24,780 bit of the zero money that 726 00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,410 Hey, she's in the split today, we're gonna give her a healthy 727 00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:33,180 split. Okay. Okay. Yeah, so boost boost for Dame Jennifer 728 00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:33,750 boost, 729 00:46:33,779 --> 00:46:37,649 if please. Because, you know, if we're, if we're trying to 730 00:46:37,649 --> 00:46:43,799 encourage developers who are either just involved in Bitcoin, 731 00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:47,609 but have not listened to any of these shows, or are just 732 00:46:48,179 --> 00:46:50,789 interested in podcasting, but I've never listened to your 733 00:46:50,789 --> 00:46:53,939 show, because the only way that I've ever learned anything about 734 00:46:53,939 --> 00:46:58,529 what you're doing is via the Show podcast, and we can't 735 00:46:58,529 --> 00:47:01,649 expect somebody to go back and listen to 97 episodes. 736 00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:05,340 Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. 737 00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:11,070 Oh, speak for yourself. I love college level course. 738 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,250 Well, it is, if they have the time, but I love what James 739 00:47:14,250 --> 00:47:17,490 Cridland is doing. I took a look at it the first time that he 740 00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:23,640 posted about it on podcast, index dot social. So I don't 741 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,460 know a couple days ago, I haven't looked at it lately. So 742 00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:30,990 I'm going to use that. But I also just kind of like the 743 00:47:30,990 --> 00:47:36,360 simplicity of your slide deck, Dave, that you gave me that. I 744 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,890 sent you that right? Yeah. and simplicity of that, too. 745 00:47:41,340 --> 00:47:45,330 Let me ask you the quick, though, is, is this going to be 746 00:47:45,330 --> 00:47:48,060 a successful presentation with this, we're using this slide 747 00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:48,480 deck. 748 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,050 I, I always like slides that are clean, simple and 749 00:47:55,170 --> 00:47:59,250 understandable. And that is exactly what you had. I loved 750 00:47:59,310 --> 00:48:03,030 how it looked. Now I am going to want to listen to the recording. 751 00:48:03,570 --> 00:48:06,570 Just for my own understanding because I'm going to start I'm 752 00:48:06,570 --> 00:48:09,120 going to have to field questions. I'm guessing he's 753 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:11,670 gonna say what's gonna happen. I'm going to do my intro. I'm 754 00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:15,600 going to do 13 minutes. I'm gonna give Dave an extra two. 755 00:48:16,020 --> 00:48:19,020 And then Dave is going to start going through the namespace. And 756 00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:23,670 he's and he's just gonna get to block tag, which is number two, 757 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,960 and we're gonna be out of time. 758 00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:33,690 Bullshit. I'm going to have you practice race. No, I'm not I'm 759 00:48:33,690 --> 00:48:38,220 winging this zero practice. First time I do. I'll be the 760 00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:39,300 first time I practice. 761 00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:43,530 I'm a former corporate conference planner. Clients were 762 00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:47,490 Arthur Andersen and Accenture that that no rehearsal doesn't 763 00:48:47,490 --> 00:48:51,150 fly. So it's a good thing. I am not your meeting planner at 764 00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:52,020 Podcast Movement. 765 00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:58,620 So in my in my stint in my day, job life, I do presentations on 766 00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:02,550 a fairly regular basis. Oh, so this will be easy for you. Yeah. 767 00:49:02,550 --> 00:49:10,380 And so and it's all slide based. And I have developed on the fly 768 00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:13,830 capabilities that most normal humans do not have. So I have 769 00:49:13,830 --> 00:49:18,180 this in my bag of tricks that I can speed up and slow down 770 00:49:18,180 --> 00:49:21,630 according to what is necessary to get the job done. I have a 771 00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:24,900 complete half complete and unjustified confidence in my own 772 00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:25,680 abilities to get this 773 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,110 No, I'm sure it is justified. Are they going to have a 774 00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:29,460 countdown clock for you? 775 00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:30,750 I hope so. 776 00:49:33,060 --> 00:49:36,390 They better be No. I'm so excited about our session. I'm a 777 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:41,250 little bummed now about new media show was doing something 778 00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:45,690 live on stage. And and Greenlee reached out to me hey, we're 779 00:49:45,690 --> 00:49:47,580 gonna have Caitlin would you want to join him? Like yeah, 780 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:49,560 that'd be kind of fun to have James and meet together. But now 781 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:55,380 they've got like 18 people on stage for 45 minutes like six 782 00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:59,730 literally six or 45 minutes like that's that's not productive. 783 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,970 It's too much. I think it's too much. Maybe I should bow out. 784 00:50:03,660 --> 00:50:07,350 Yeah, belly about gracefully. You should demure. 785 00:50:09,210 --> 00:50:11,520 Alright, so back to the hackathon. Yes. 786 00:50:12,870 --> 00:50:19,320 So but beyond the flowchart that the other concern that he had, 787 00:50:19,350 --> 00:50:23,700 was that it, because when he I played him the clip when it 788 00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:30,150 first came up in July, and debut proposed it and you said, no 789 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:32,310 rules just do something cool. 790 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,920 Yes, it sounds exactly. Right. Yeah. And 791 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,550 Greg was like, no, no, no, you're gonna need to tell these 792 00:50:41,550 --> 00:50:46,800 guys what they want. Meaning, you know, you're gonna need to 793 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,820 be a little more specific. So I had an idea and tell me what you 794 00:50:50,820 --> 00:50:53,160 think. So we've been talking about pimps. 795 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,170 See, for a while this is. 796 00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:58,500 Dave's notetaker? 797 00:50:59,430 --> 00:51:02,010 Wait. So we've been, you know, this has been recorded. Dave, 798 00:51:02,010 --> 00:51:03,150 you can go back and listen. 799 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,050 You could just read the transcript. There you go. 800 00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:11,400 There you go. So you've been talking about pimps and I love 801 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,520 the idea of the pimp database. So I wonder if there's not a way 802 00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:23,700 because a little black book now it's just 803 00:51:24,930 --> 00:51:31,560 I know, right? So if, if we were to kind of use the pin database. 804 00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:37,200 Sidenote, sounds ridiculous, as kind of a trial of these are 805 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,510 some ideas that maybe you developers should think about 806 00:51:42,510 --> 00:51:43,560 for the hackathon. 807 00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:46,980 Okay, so what you're saying, If I can just try this, you're 808 00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:51,240 saying, you'd like to develop whatever that means, the pimp 809 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:55,470 database, we start feeding shit in that becomes the base for the 810 00:51:55,470 --> 00:51:56,100 hackathon. 811 00:51:56,669 --> 00:52:01,199 I think so I think that we've got to give these guys and say, 812 00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:05,699 guys, that really will be primarily men, let's be honest. 813 00:52:05,879 --> 00:52:10,619 But we need to give them some kind of structure, especially if 814 00:52:10,619 --> 00:52:16,259 they're coming at this completely new. And, and if we 815 00:52:16,259 --> 00:52:21,539 can also, the other thing that I feel like I need to communicate 816 00:52:21,539 --> 00:52:26,549 somehow, is, these are the apps that are already utilizing the 817 00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:28,949 namespace in these ways. And that's what your slide deck was 818 00:52:28,949 --> 00:52:33,359 really helpful. Because you had those screenshots of, you know, 819 00:52:33,419 --> 00:52:37,589 here's, here's chapters, and here's a screenshot of a of an 820 00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:43,529 app that's already using it. So that's something I'm still kind 821 00:52:43,529 --> 00:52:48,329 of noodling through is, how do we tell people there are things 822 00:52:48,329 --> 00:52:51,989 that they can look at to see how their current implementation is? 823 00:52:52,109 --> 00:52:55,889 How could you improve upon it, make it better do it 824 00:52:55,889 --> 00:52:58,799 differently, blah, blah, blah, you know, it gets cool, quote, 825 00:52:58,799 --> 00:52:59,249 unquote. 826 00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:04,650 So okay, so the the slides, it sounds like what can happen as a 827 00:53:04,650 --> 00:53:11,130 step one is that after the flowchart is that, this the, the 828 00:53:11,130 --> 00:53:17,280 slide deck, post, talk, the, we could try, we can post the talk, 829 00:53:17,790 --> 00:53:20,640 if possible, if this podcast movement would give us 830 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,110 permission, we can post the talk, and then and then and then 831 00:53:25,110 --> 00:53:31,860 post the slides, and then use that as sort of a, like a, some 832 00:53:31,860 --> 00:53:35,670 guardrails and say, Okay, here's the, here's the tags you have 833 00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:39,300 available to you, and the protocols you have available to 834 00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:44,010 you take these things, and, and then get some inspiration from 835 00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:48,150 the talk. Right, and go and do something along. You know, 836 00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:52,260 that's, that's your that's your, what do you want to say, that's 837 00:53:52,260 --> 00:53:55,500 your that's your set of parameters is, is the things in 838 00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:57,540 the talk to get you to get the juices flowing? 839 00:53:58,530 --> 00:54:02,520 Yeah, and then we have the pimps that the community can 840 00:54:03,270 --> 00:54:07,530 contribute to have, you know, these are things that I've, you 841 00:54:07,530 --> 00:54:12,510 know, seen lacking or would like to see, or you know, that and I 842 00:54:12,510 --> 00:54:20,760 kind of see, amps may be coming from listeners, and producers or 843 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,930 meeting podcasters more than current developers, but I could 844 00:54:24,930 --> 00:54:26,790 be wrong, because, oh, no, 845 00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:29,610 I think that's, that's critically important that 846 00:54:29,610 --> 00:54:32,910 podcasters and listeners have ideas that developers don't 847 00:54:32,910 --> 00:54:36,720 think of, and vice versa. It's absolutely and I would say, we 848 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:42,000 have to make sure that it's not just, you know, new tat we don't 849 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,150 necessarily need new tags, but here's all this stuff. Here's 850 00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:48,630 all this data, here's how it's categorized. What can I do with 851 00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:52,050 that? Right? To create make? 852 00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:56,550 Yeah, and you know, and there are so many other I mean, I was 853 00:54:56,550 --> 00:55:01,440 also thinking well, what a hosting company one it, can we 854 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,130 kind of have three different buckets we could have, we want 855 00:55:05,130 --> 00:55:07,020 to do something cool. For a listener, we want to do 856 00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:10,080 something cool for a podcaster. We want to do something cool for 857 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,350 a hosting company. I'm not sure how much the hosting companies 858 00:55:13,350 --> 00:55:19,050 need or want anything. But it was just kind of the third 859 00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:21,420 audience that was a potential. 860 00:55:22,290 --> 00:55:24,330 They want stuff that I think they definitely want stuff. 861 00:55:24,330 --> 00:55:27,450 Because what the one thing that hosting companies really want to 862 00:55:27,450 --> 00:55:33,600 know, is what listeners want. They they really want to know 863 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,590 that because they don't. I mean, they get some feedback. But the 864 00:55:37,590 --> 00:55:41,280 feedback is, the feedback really doesn't come from the listener, 865 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,320 the feedback always comes from the the podcaster. You know, I 866 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,010 want to I want to get this and, you know, you rarely have so you 867 00:55:50,550 --> 00:55:53,340 don't really have a scenario where a listener is listening to 868 00:55:53,340 --> 00:55:56,820 a podcast on Apple podcast, says, you know, this, it'd be a 869 00:55:56,820 --> 00:55:59,850 great idea for this thing to be a part of this podcast for this 870 00:55:59,850 --> 00:56:01,980 feature to be part of this podcast. Let me look up the 871 00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:06,000 hosting companies who this petition them, like that doesn't 872 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,680 happen. Right? The podcasters themselves have to communicate 873 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,310 that through. So if no, I think the hosting companies definitely 874 00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:19,590 want as much input from all parties as possible. They, they 875 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,060 they really thrive there, their businesses thrive on, on feature 876 00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:26,220 development and pushing. So out there, I think they would be big 877 00:56:26,220 --> 00:56:26,760 fans of that. 878 00:56:27,330 --> 00:56:32,580 So how do we get you started with the database? Have you 879 00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:34,350 already thought about this? Of course I 880 00:56:34,350 --> 00:56:40,200 have. But I wanted to talk it through before I even move too 881 00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:44,460 much further forward. But I guess, I mean, I can build 882 00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:48,720 something or I can find a tool, I bought a domain. And I have a 883 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,540 landing page for it. That's just super cheesy. So that if you're 884 00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:55,530 at Podcast Movement, and you run into somebody who might be 885 00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:57,900 interested in you, they at least have a place to go and it's just 886 00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:58,890 it's PC. 887 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,900 Two zero.com 209 888 00:57:03,930 --> 00:57:07,020 Yeah, two, zero, the numerals. So that'll be kind of the 889 00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:12,000 landing to some people. And I don't know if that's where we 890 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,580 host the pimp database or 891 00:57:16,110 --> 00:57:19,830 anything. Specifically, do you have any skills with setting up 892 00:57:19,830 --> 00:57:20,700 databases? 893 00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:25,470 I used to? It would I would need to clear some cobwebs. 894 00:57:25,650 --> 00:57:28,620 I don't think we need that. I don't I don't think we need to 895 00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:32,730 go to that level. I think because the GitHub repo, I think 896 00:57:32,730 --> 00:57:35,190 that that's the way to do it. One is, yeah, 897 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,370 yeah. That's what I mean, it's built for stuff like this. And, 898 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:45,060 okay, the GitHub, the namespace repo. Also has a wealth of 899 00:57:45,060 --> 00:57:47,850 issues that have already been created in and of ideas that 900 00:57:47,850 --> 00:57:52,830 people had. Yeah, yeah. True. True, that nobody's picked up 901 00:57:52,830 --> 00:57:53,970 and done anything with. 902 00:57:54,180 --> 00:57:58,020 So you can raise a nice thought you didn't like the way it was 903 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,000 being communicated? Or 904 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,750 I remember I remember Dave saying that, too. Yeah. 905 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,370 I do. I don't like the way this is communicated. 906 00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:14,160 About the structure, like the structure you'd have with issues 907 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,450 or something or something you'd write it 908 00:58:15,450 --> 00:58:16,470 wasn't working for you. 909 00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:19,470 It's It's messy. I mean, it's messy. But I guess what I'm 910 00:58:19,470 --> 00:58:24,150 saying is like the so what I've what I've started doing is, is 911 00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:27,090 when there's now that we have the pimp system, whenever, 912 00:58:27,330 --> 00:58:31,710 whenever a new one is put, like the first one is the Verify tag, 913 00:58:31,710 --> 00:58:31,920 wait, 914 00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:34,680 we don't have a pimp system. Where's, where's where's 915 00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:41,370 the pit? The PIP system is the GitHub is GitHub projects. I 916 00:58:41,610 --> 00:58:43,290 started creating a project 917 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,050 Oh, I didn't know I didn't know this was taking place 918 00:58:46,350 --> 00:58:49,500 did we've not discussed unless you do not discuss this in the 919 00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,880 board meeting. So the what I did with PIP two, which is the 920 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,220 Verify tag as I put it as a project, 921 00:58:56,610 --> 00:58:58,530 and then when you have a project, then you can have 922 00:58:58,530 --> 00:59:01,710 comments and shit under that you can link issues to it. And 923 00:59:01,710 --> 00:59:06,060 you can you can assign it, you can assign sub tasks of the 924 00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:08,760 project to different developers and blah, blah, blah, but it's 925 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:14,490 just my way of tracking it. So you know, but I think the just 926 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:20,190 dig through the issues list is probably a great place to start. 927 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,570 Just to get 928 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:28,500 brainstorming convert them to camps, do we reach out to you or 929 00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:30,870 do a pull request or I don't know how I just 930 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,380 yeah, you can just you can just put you know, if somebody sees 931 00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:38,820 something, they can put it to me. I can I can I can also spend 932 00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:41,130 some time digging through there because I can probably spot 933 00:59:41,130 --> 00:59:45,030 things pretty quick. Right? That has there's a lot of stuff in 934 00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:49,350 there that was just like nah, this is not good. But I think 935 00:59:49,350 --> 00:59:54,870 one thing Adam said was was important that we don't we want 936 00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:58,140 it to be clear. You said this, be specific. And one thing to be 937 00:59:58,140 --> 01:00:02,910 specific on is we don't want new tags. We want, okay, existing. 938 01:00:03,690 --> 01:00:07,800 We want the existing we've got to we're getting way in for in 939 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,540 front of our skis here because you're 18 tags into this thing 940 01:00:12,570 --> 01:00:18,150 and a few protocols. And and we still have, you know, apps that 941 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:22,860 only support one tag. Right? So if there was, we don't want new 942 01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:28,260 tags. So that's one guardrail. And then the more general idea 943 01:00:28,260 --> 01:00:31,500 is, take what's already there already available 944 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,690 and do something cool with that bill. How about a cool search? 945 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,570 You know, there's all kinds of stuff that I can come up with 946 01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:44,340 Discovery discovery, yes. The elusive discovery? Yeah. Now 947 01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:49,740 we've been talking about so. So how would a Normie, like a 948 01:00:49,830 --> 01:00:54,270 listener who's not going to be on GitHub? Should I build 949 01:00:54,270 --> 01:00:57,870 something for them to submit to me, and then I can transfer them 950 01:00:57,870 --> 01:01:00,420 to GitHub or what are you? What do you think? Well, I think 951 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,330 I think we should just make a new repo a column on Yeah. 22? 952 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,520 Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And then there's an enlisted have, 953 01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,570 hopefully, normally, this is for developers. So developers need 954 01:01:15,570 --> 01:01:20,190 to de they'll already know how to do these things, right? To 955 01:01:20,190 --> 01:01:21,900 submit issues. And 956 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,390 a hackathon is kind of by default. I mean, it's important 957 01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:28,770 that podcasters and listeners are welcome. But it's really a 958 01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:29,610 developer thing. 959 01:01:30,540 --> 01:01:35,820 Yeah, in the in your your site, your hack, PC 20 hackathon.com. 960 01:01:35,820 --> 01:01:40,860 That that can can be the the sort of explainer and gore and 961 01:01:40,860 --> 01:01:44,700 Gabriele setup. And then they say, and then you pass them off 962 01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:47,370 to write a hackathon 2022 repo. 963 01:01:47,790 --> 01:01:50,670 Okay. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. I mean, either 964 01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:55,890 we need, we need like an onboarding for people who heard 965 01:01:55,890 --> 01:01:58,920 about it sounds interesting. But, you know, had the 966 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,270 experience that Greg did, which was like, Where what? You know, 967 01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:05,730 like, I need a flowchart. 968 01:02:06,660 --> 01:02:08,670 What is this float? Can I ask you about the flow chart? 969 01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:11,850 Because this is, what is the flow chart? Charting? 970 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,330 I don't even want to know, I just want to have it. Yes. I 971 01:02:15,330 --> 01:02:16,680 want a flow chart. Well, 972 01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:20,070 here's what is the chart? What is the flow? What flow is being 973 01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:20,580 charted? 974 01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:24,660 If. So that was one of the things that I need to and you 975 01:02:24,660 --> 01:02:27,000 just reminded me, I made myself a note, I need to ask him for an 976 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,410 example of one. And I was gonna go to one of his companies and 977 01:02:31,410 --> 01:02:35,220 see if his, like, his API has a flowchart and just see, you 978 01:02:35,220 --> 01:02:36,870 know, well, I like are you? 979 01:02:37,020 --> 01:02:39,030 Are you? Sure? Yeah. 980 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,100 Right. So that's, I'm not 100% Sure. But it was something that 981 01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:47,370 was the first thing he was looking for, which is kind of a 982 01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:49,890 schema, you know, of like, what's going on here. 983 01:02:50,970 --> 01:02:56,250 When I think of flow chart, with podcasting, 2.0, I think of 984 01:02:57,540 --> 01:03:03,510 something I've wanted for a long time. Is a is like a motion. 985 01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:06,900 This is this sounds like, sounds so much like an old man, when I 986 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:12,810 say this motion graphic, like, that's dumb term, but like, a 987 01:03:12,810 --> 01:03:17,790 graphical representation of the flow of Satoshis as they go 988 01:03:17,790 --> 01:03:23,280 through the value for value network system. With with, with 989 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,640 motion showing the showing flow? 990 01:03:27,570 --> 01:03:30,660 Yes. Where money goes in? For value for value, that will be 991 01:03:30,660 --> 01:03:31,500 cool. Yeah, 992 01:03:31,530 --> 01:03:32,880 value for value. Yeah. 993 01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:36,480 That's just the one that's like one piece of the pie. And 994 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,050 they're really 995 01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:43,380 talking more about a visual description of the API. sounds 996 01:03:43,380 --> 01:03:43,920 like to me, 997 01:03:43,950 --> 01:03:47,760 I'm gonna, I'll double check with them. Because I told him, I 998 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,900 said, I bet I'm gonna have to do it. And so I may have more 999 01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:56,760 questions. But, you know, and I will probably have questions for 1000 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,920 you, Dave. As I start to kind of understand. And then, you know, 1001 01:04:02,430 --> 01:04:04,860 try and figure it I mean, I will try and figure I went to 1002 01:04:04,860 --> 01:04:06,810 Montessori. So I learned 1003 01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:09,030 I can get a steady learner. 1004 01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:11,550 Is that where you learn how to eat clay and stuff? 1005 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,190 I didn't eat dirt, but 1006 01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:20,490 that's my way of you. Kids are cool, man. They get it 1007 01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:23,790 suit. You're just you're really well taught the funny thing is I 1008 01:04:23,820 --> 01:04:29,640 when I meet someone at a party, I can tell Yeah, it's very 1009 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,250 weird. It's like it's kind of a superpower. 1010 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,340 Well, there's there's something else now when you when you hit 1011 01:04:35,340 --> 01:04:39,090 the party's because you have a new glow about you. Hola Dave. 1012 01:04:39,090 --> 01:04:44,610 Grab this you got that sword. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna grab that 1013 01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:49,620 because we now need to officially pronounced the KU as 1014 01:04:49,800 --> 01:05:01,980 David Jennifer data now your official name So here's your 1015 01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:07,020 scissors. Here's your scissors. Yes, your sash your scissors. We 1016 01:05:07,020 --> 01:05:10,230 really appreciate this, Jennifer and of course, we're here for 1017 01:05:10,260 --> 01:05:15,000 for anything. Anything you need, let us know. And we'll jump in 1018 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,410 and whatever we can. 1019 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,070 Yeah, I mean, we're gonna have to down the road. It's not 1020 01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:23,280 something we need to obviously solve today. But then how do we 1021 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,570 start, you know, organizing the presentation of what these 1022 01:05:27,570 --> 01:05:31,560 developers have come up with? And then some kind of voting 1023 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,250 process. Do we do like a sweet 16? And, you know, we'd 1024 01:05:35,250 --> 01:05:40,110 like, Oh, man. Yeah, like the tournament? They like NC double 1025 01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:43,410 Yeah. Double A tournament? I'm not familiar. Yeah, well, you 1026 01:05:43,410 --> 01:05:46,200 have like, you know, you have a bracket of 64. And then it goes, 1027 01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:49,860 the winners go to 32. Then the 16 teams into a didn't afford 1028 01:05:49,860 --> 01:05:53,610 then did the? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So 1029 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,330 you're kind of pairing? Brackets, brackets. So yeah, 1030 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,260 brackets, there's, there's the word. Thank you. Um, so you know 1031 01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:03,990 that that's something else. But I mean, we're not there. Like, 1032 01:06:04,110 --> 01:06:08,880 right now, I think that the primary thing is get people 1033 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,680 involved and interested, who, if they heard about it, and could 1034 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,640 get their head around, it would love to contribute? Oh, and 1035 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,780 what's the what's the money? Like, can we start saying that 1036 01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:23,670 there's money, there's a bounty or is there, 1037 01:06:24,090 --> 01:06:26,670 it's going to be value for value, the voting will will be 1038 01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:28,710 done with Satoshis, I would presume. 1039 01:06:29,910 --> 01:06:33,420 But here's, here's my own, here's the plan, the only plan 1040 01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,900 I've come up with for the, for the SATs for the for the prize 1041 01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:44,970 money is, is create, I like your idea for like a blog or bracket 1042 01:06:44,970 --> 01:06:47,790 or whatever you you know, have some sort of an initial voting 1043 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,480 that goes through where you could get it down to maybe four 1044 01:06:51,870 --> 01:07:00,150 projects. And then then we could create, like four different 1045 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:06,000 podcasts with each with, with each description, just just one 1046 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,380 episode, just describing what the, what the project is. And 1047 01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:15,060 then everybody sends SATs to the project that they think worst 1048 01:07:15,090 --> 01:07:19,530 is, is the winner. And then just add up, whoever gets the most 1049 01:07:19,530 --> 01:07:22,680 SATs is the winner and then they get they get the prize, they get 1050 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,400 the whole kitty. That's that was the only thing I had, there may 1051 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,300 be a much better way and open to, to all that we I mean, we 1052 01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:33,570 could just, you know, we could The other alternative is just 1053 01:07:33,930 --> 01:07:35,370 how about this and 1054 01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:41,520 change the future and win valuable prizes? That's, that's, 1055 01:07:41,550 --> 01:07:45,750 that's there. Right there. Yeah, change the future, and win 1056 01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:47,100 valuable prizes? 1057 01:07:48,060 --> 01:07:52,950 Well, we, we could just say, you know, put $1 value on it. 1058 01:07:52,980 --> 01:07:56,100 $500 $1,000. Now, whatever. 1059 01:07:56,550 --> 01:08:01,740 Value, value, value for value, watch this. We're gonna figure 1060 01:08:01,740 --> 01:08:06,060 this out real quick. These things present themselves. Okay, 1061 01:08:06,090 --> 01:08:09,690 I would not start off with, Hey, we got you. First of all, we 1062 01:08:09,690 --> 01:08:13,170 don't have 500 bucks. We can't promise anything. True. That's 1063 01:08:13,170 --> 01:08:16,830 true. Then, you know, it's like people should be here for the 1064 01:08:16,830 --> 01:08:20,550 fun of it. Normally, people pay you to come to the hackathon. 1065 01:08:23,310 --> 01:08:25,950 What do you think? What do you think about about doing it 1066 01:08:25,950 --> 01:08:29,640 purely through podcasting to do podcasting app boosts? Yeah, 1067 01:08:29,670 --> 01:08:32,280 something like that. I like that a lot. And you have four 1068 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,380 different podcasts or two different pods. I mean, two 1069 01:08:34,380 --> 01:08:37,260 different podcasts per project. And it's just one episode. Like, 1070 01:08:37,740 --> 01:08:41,640 this project is about the alternate enclosure tag and 1071 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,570 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they just vote. That 1072 01:08:45,570 --> 01:08:47,820 sounds extremely boring. 1073 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,400 Now that does that sounds like a shit idea. We're gonna have to 1074 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,860 think about it. Let's Yeah, stick a pin in it, everybody. I 1075 01:08:55,860 --> 01:09:00,120 don't know how to do. What are most hackathons? It is not 1076 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,430 always money involved in a hackathon is there 1077 01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:08,520 I don't know that I would I want money 1078 01:09:08,610 --> 01:09:10,080 or lots of free pizza. 1079 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,130 Maybe as also people just like, you know, like fans of some 1080 01:09:14,580 --> 01:09:17,370 technology. They go and do a hackathon. It's about getting 1081 01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:18,540 together and doing it. 1082 01:09:19,859 --> 01:09:21,899 Yeah, this is a virtual though there's no 1083 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,770 I know. But But Is that not the actual kind of idea of a 1084 01:09:25,770 --> 01:09:28,440 hackathon. So what if it's virtual right so what are the 1085 01:09:28,890 --> 01:09:32,670 differences that make yeah but you because it's virtual you got 1086 01:09:32,670 --> 01:09:33,480 to pay people 1087 01:09:33,929 --> 01:09:38,039 No, but I mean that but here's it's not that but it's the 1088 01:09:38,039 --> 01:09:44,459 painting the painting to me is more a function of of this of 1089 01:09:44,459 --> 01:09:47,909 putting on display the power of value of the value for value 1090 01:09:47,909 --> 01:09:53,519 Lightning Network and and podcasting 2.0 value tag like 1091 01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:54,089 it's 1092 01:09:54,150 --> 01:09:58,050 no no I agree with I agree with that. But there's two things one 1093 01:09:58,050 --> 01:10:00,960 is, if we if we say up front, oh, there's Gonna be a prize. 1094 01:10:00,990 --> 01:10:05,280 Now we can't say that value for value reward, whatever, we have 1095 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,930 to figure out the mechanism, because so if someone sends 5 1096 01:10:09,930 --> 01:10:13,680 million SATs to one project, can the other projects ever be a 1097 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,910 winner? You got to put some, some parameters in there. 1098 01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:20,640 We'll see that's okay. So here's, here's when I said, 1099 01:10:20,910 --> 01:10:24,210 create four podcasts, or two podcasts, or whatever this is, 1100 01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:29,460 my idea was that we, we have a wallet that's going to receive 1101 01:10:29,460 --> 01:10:34,740 the SATs, and we are watching in the voting, the SAT voting, then 1102 01:10:34,740 --> 01:10:38,760 when the winner is determined, then we say we send all those 1103 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,720 sets to the winner. 1104 01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:45,720 No, I understand. But how do you determine the winner? Whoever 1105 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,720 gets the most, no, but that's what I mean. That's, that's, 1106 01:10:48,750 --> 01:10:51,300 that's going to be that's not going to work because whoever 1107 01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:55,170 gets the most sets is like, okay, so I'm a big baller. And I 1108 01:10:55,170 --> 01:10:59,220 really liked this project. And I said 10 million SATs. Who's Who 1109 01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:04,560 else is gonna win? Right? Yeah, so we have to we have to come up 1110 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,490 with so I liked the idea of maybe aiming like gaming it 1111 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:13,440 okay. Yes. Yeah. Yes, like gaming it? Totally. We got to be 1112 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,020 careful of that. So maybe 1113 01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:21,090 you just have donations of, you know, if you want to give toward 1114 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:26,310 the bounty to encourage development. Great. Here you go. 1115 01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:30,720 Put it to this, donate at this time, or put this in your boost 1116 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,190 or whatever. And then the voting be completely separate. And it'd 1117 01:11:35,190 --> 01:11:41,010 be, you know, however you want blue ribbon panel writing. Um, I 1118 01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:45,240 Well, that I don't know, that I I haven't really thought 1119 01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:48,210 through. I kind of like the community voting. But I also 1120 01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:52,140 think maybe it does just need to be like a board, quote, unquote. 1121 01:11:52,710 --> 01:11:54,870 Alright, I gotta I gotta read some booster grams because 1122 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:57,690 people are tripping out now. Because no, no, no, not at all. 1123 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,170 Not at all. But we're lit Of course. And so right off the 1124 01:12:01,170 --> 01:12:05,070 bat, Todd Cochran. 10,000 SATs blueberry will commit to 1125 01:12:05,070 --> 01:12:07,800 contributing to cash pool if this is the way you want to go. 1126 01:12:08,130 --> 01:12:11,430 Well, no, no, that's cool. Well, just send us the cash. We'll 1127 01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:12,030 take care of it. 1128 01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:15,840 Yeah, we'll we'll make sure it gets to the right place. 1129 01:12:17,220 --> 01:12:20,550 floydian slips 3200 People go to hackathons, because they are 1130 01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:24,300 passionate about a project. They aren't bounty hunting events. 1131 01:12:24,660 --> 01:12:27,750 And that's kind of what I thought but I I liked the idea 1132 01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:32,340 of using the value tag. Maybe it's putting someone in your 1133 01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:35,520 splits. I mean, there's all kinds of we just got to work on 1134 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:41,610 that. Pay two or 50,000 SATs congratulations Dame Jenny bear. 1135 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:50,490 Okay, not quite sure. Booper of noses 800 SATs thank you for 1136 01:12:50,490 --> 01:12:55,440 brave noses. And then Holy moly. Darren O'Neil podcast 1137 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,580 shot caller 20 plays only 1138 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:06,570 100,001 SATs from Darren says oh yeah, you're a big drop. It's a 1139 01:13:06,570 --> 01:13:09,390 pleasure to hear Dame Jennifer bringing some levity to an 1140 01:13:09,390 --> 01:13:11,670 otherwise non funny show. 1141 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,650 Oh, that's gonna be on my headstone. 1142 01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:24,750 2222 from McIntosh who says missing the show live today. I'm 1143 01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:31,080 sure it'd be awesome hit me with go podcast. We got blueberry 1144 01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:36,900 with the Oso religious 7777 the striper boost Hey, Dame Jennifer 1145 01:13:36,990 --> 01:13:39,810 can't wait for a Nashville roller rink. Meet up part two. 1146 01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:43,980 Yeah, I met him in February. There you go. Yeah. 1147 01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:49,020 Sam Sethi responding Dave with another 1000 SATs. We do have 1148 01:13:49,020 --> 01:13:52,170 transcripts. Occasionally it's missing. Occasionally it's 1149 01:13:52,170 --> 01:13:54,870 missing but pod land does does okay. 1150 01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:58,770 My apologies but deficits here apologies. 1151 01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:05,040 Captain Egghead, go V four V with a row of ducks 2222 Thank 1152 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:11,460 you. And let me see what oh my goodness. There you go. We have 1153 01:14:11,460 --> 01:14:15,570 blueberry and blueberry also hits it hard how 1154 01:14:15,570 --> 01:14:20,220 long 20 is played on am Paula 100,001 1155 01:14:20,220 --> 01:14:25,680 equaling Darren O'Neil old ladies, BTS will be live 1156 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,620 following this Cummings no agenda on Sunday. Come get us an 1157 01:14:28,620 --> 01:14:33,360 ad. Come get some action on banned Radio dot live or a new 1158 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,280 podcast app new podcast apps.com We'll be rocking out hard with 1159 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,390 the gematria boost bot in the green room chats these goats are 1160 01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:44,190 going to sacrifice themselves. 1161 01:14:45,210 --> 01:14:50,340 So this this Gematria boost bot thing he explained it later. And 1162 01:14:50,370 --> 01:14:55,410 it's like there's there's a certain code if you if you send 1163 01:14:55,410 --> 01:14:58,680 them if you send boosts of a certain amount it it ends up 1164 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,870 displaying a certain amount Would you string 1165 01:15:01,740 --> 01:15:05,190 Yes and it's fingered fires a different sound as well. 1166 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,370 Yeah. And so it's like a game trying to figure trying to get 1167 01:15:08,370 --> 01:15:11,190 like decipher this shinda since that's the 1168 01:15:11,190 --> 01:15:15,450 shit I expect out of a hackathon. Yeah, that's boost 1169 01:15:15,450 --> 01:15:18,030 bots. These these are by the way, these are pretty good 1170 01:15:18,030 --> 01:15:21,840 examples. These are cool hackathon. Hackathon things. 1171 01:15:22,260 --> 01:15:26,370 leaderboards? Oh, my goodness voting. How about a voting 1172 01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:31,530 system? Yeah, voting. Yes, it'll be handy. Very handy. Yeah. 1173 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,730 Pfeiffer there's nothing like a dame especially when it's Dame 1174 01:15:35,730 --> 01:15:36,480 Jennifer 1175 01:15:52,260 --> 01:15:58,350 that's still my second favorite. Well, maybe my favorite anime 1176 01:15:58,350 --> 01:16:00,930 had no agenda. I did that really early. 1177 01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:04,950 Yeah, I remember I remember. Yeah. And I 1178 01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:07,320 every once in a while. It'll come up in my recommendations. 1179 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,730 And I'm like, Okay, I'll watch that one. It's cute. Yeah, 1180 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,180 anyway. 1181 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,750 Let me see Sam Sethi again 1000 SATs Hi, chaps and Jennifer I 1182 01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:20,910 know you start about now my Friday night I have my 1183 01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:24,780 notification set in pod verse. I seem to let go live or waiting 1184 01:16:24,780 --> 01:16:27,600 but where how can I see what actual time you go live in the 1185 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:34,500 apps well that's it there is a scheduled time that is that is 1186 01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:36,720 posted I guess it's not surfacing. 1187 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,290 I guess pod verse doesn't Yeah, I guess it doesn't display that 1188 01:16:40,290 --> 01:16:43,830 I wonder if curio caster does I'm going to be going right now. 1189 01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:48,480 Let me see me does curio caster show and I'm talking directly 1190 01:16:49,020 --> 01:16:53,370 because I know he's in the chat room sorry. He will tell me if 1191 01:16:53,370 --> 01:16:57,210 curio caster shows the time of the upcoming Yeah, I 1192 01:16:57,210 --> 01:17:01,500 can't see that now because we're already live. Okay engaged 1193 01:17:01,500 --> 01:17:05,370 stream stream engaged Let's rock 1000 SATs from Lehman creations 1194 01:17:05,370 --> 01:17:07,140 Thank you very much. 1195 01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:11,130 says yes curio Castro does display the upcoming time. 1196 01:17:12,930 --> 01:17:17,100 Another 7777 from Pfeiffer obligatory plug for the Sunday 1197 01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:20,520 morning to our folk hour on the no agenda streamed live Sunday 1198 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:25,170 mornings at 9am. Central Standard Time. Okay, these plugs 1199 01:17:25,170 --> 01:17:31,110 are very interesting. Let's see we have another 1000 from sands 1200 01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:36,000 Sam Sethi and then 10,001 from blueberry pod verse boosting for 1201 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,680 mobile fields so permissionless totally filled match. Congrats. 1202 01:17:41,220 --> 01:17:44,910 There you go. tilled it pimpled Yeah. 1203 01:17:44,970 --> 01:17:46,530 Okay, that's a good that's a good phrase. 1204 01:17:46,530 --> 01:17:53,130 And thanks. Thanks to meet us for the 20,069 SATs said pre pre 1205 01:17:53,130 --> 01:18:00,480 show and he just says what up nerds. And let's see 3200 Now 1206 01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:03,060 from Florida and slips per diem Jennifer's request I switch to 1207 01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:12,150 no agendas category from comedy to news. 19 148 SATs from Brian 1208 01:18:12,150 --> 01:18:16,110 of London Hello Brian of London. He says Let me tell you about 1209 01:18:16,110 --> 01:18:22,110 coin voting. He has a little son emoji with the sunglasses 1210 01:18:22,110 --> 01:18:26,250 because of course that means that we have to do this in hive. 1211 01:18:28,410 --> 01:18:31,230 Right Of course. No, no, it's not gonna happen. 1212 01:18:33,330 --> 01:18:35,070 Of course popping seems really cool. 1213 01:18:35,070 --> 01:18:38,760 I was gonna say any cool app from anything I don't care as 1214 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,070 long as it's integrating what we're doing is great. 1215 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:46,290 Absolutely. It's great. Yeah, pod ping is is beyond this. It's 1216 01:18:46,290 --> 01:18:50,430 incredible sometimes to read these comments which are 1217 01:18:50,430 --> 01:18:55,800 completely egged on by Brian of London himself. Of course. You 1218 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,710 know people gonna like putting on this podcast that to put 1219 01:18:58,710 --> 01:19:01,290 always they're building a database with hive that she 1220 01:19:01,290 --> 01:19:06,690 called man. Like cheese wheeze people. Like there was a whole 1221 01:19:06,690 --> 01:19:10,860 thread Roy forwarded me today. The Ellen URL guys are all like, 1222 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,510 well, how come we don't have value for value with ln URL? Oh, 1223 01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:21,060 really? Yeah. And, and Bumi was in the thread from Alby and Roy 1224 01:19:21,060 --> 01:19:25,170 and everyone's like, well, you know, it would work but you 1225 01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:28,350 know, we're doing up to 10 splits. Now. It's, yeah, but the 1226 01:19:28,380 --> 01:19:30,870 Ellen URL, you know, it's just one of those really emotional 1227 01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:35,130 conversations. And I have to say, Roy, and Boomi they talked 1228 01:19:35,130 --> 01:19:40,350 him off and he's like, Okay, I'm gonna go learn key send those 1229 01:19:40,350 --> 01:19:42,720 things sometimes, you know, people get real passionate about 1230 01:19:42,750 --> 01:19:45,780 technology, especially because Ellen URL has been around it's 1231 01:19:45,810 --> 01:19:49,890 very, for enlightening standards and ancient protocol. And 1232 01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:53,400 they've gone really far with Elon bits and, and all this 1233 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,490 stuff is just, there are some significant differences to it 1234 01:19:56,490 --> 01:19:58,020 for us. Elon, URL 1235 01:19:58,020 --> 01:20:02,580 author, I mean, all these ed that Do the same thing. It's the 1236 01:20:02,580 --> 01:20:05,850 same thing, though. It's always the same thing. Go build 1237 01:20:05,850 --> 01:20:06,480 something. 1238 01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:08,820 Yes, please build it exactly. Don't 1239 01:20:08,820 --> 01:20:11,850 don't complain about not don't complain about things not 1240 01:20:11,850 --> 01:20:16,740 existing, just make it exist. That's, that's, that's still the 1241 01:20:16,740 --> 01:20:19,260 age old problem with people don't not understanding open 1242 01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:22,770 source is that it's not about asking for things. It's about 1243 01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:27,150 making the thing, right. I mean, that's what that's the 1244 01:20:27,150 --> 01:20:28,170 hackathon. Well, but 1245 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,710 you know, what I've noticed. And, and you notice, it's 1246 01:20:31,740 --> 01:20:35,190 extremely obvious on the consumer side, but also, I 1247 01:20:35,190 --> 01:20:38,010 think, to some degree on the developer side, you know, we've 1248 01:20:38,010 --> 01:20:43,470 been so spoiled with Silicon Valley companies being funded 1249 01:20:43,470 --> 01:20:49,320 with very cheap money, which is over with all kinds of apps and 1250 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,610 things that pop up and are free, and it's all expected to work 1251 01:20:53,610 --> 01:20:56,700 immediately. And, you know, I'm not even gonna let this morning, 1252 01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,080 you know, at this pace of shock, like, holy crap, what's cool, 1253 01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:04,650 every time I want to do this, it freezes. And I was just, I was 1254 01:21:04,650 --> 01:21:06,930 just letting it go. Because, you know, and I wasn't trying to be 1255 01:21:06,930 --> 01:21:10,230 defensive, but I immediately I go into defensive mode, like, 1256 01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:15,450 well, this is like two guys or one guy, and you know, yeah, but 1257 01:21:15,450 --> 01:21:20,490 you, IT people, it's the same with I don't understand two 1258 01:21:20,490 --> 01:21:23,610 point I understand value for I don't get it, you know, and 1259 01:21:23,610 --> 01:21:28,320 people are not they're used to it being spoon fed, stuck in 1260 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:34,530 their face completely managed, completely helped. You know, and 1261 01:21:34,530 --> 01:21:38,940 developers, I think, sometimes also have this idea of like, 1262 01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:42,240 well, listen, index, guys, why don't you do Alan URL just 1263 01:21:42,270 --> 01:21:46,800 implemented? You know, not knowing at all, you know, at all 1264 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,650 what we're about, or, you know, or how this works, or what we're 1265 01:21:49,650 --> 01:21:54,720 trying to accomplish? It's the modern age of technology, people 1266 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,410 have been extremely spoiled. And, you know, it's like, Ah, 1267 01:21:58,410 --> 01:22:02,940 this, like, people upgrade their phones every year. Right? 1268 01:22:02,970 --> 01:22:06,210 Kidding me. So, well, 1269 01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:09,960 we got an iPhone in the mail. It was just like an anonymous gift. 1270 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,050 So people send me stuff all the time. 1271 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,140 Where do I get in on that? Like, how do I get an action? What? 1272 01:22:16,170 --> 01:22:19,770 Well, okay, making cartoons. Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah. 1273 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:25,770 You got to start a podcast without me. Now, it's like Tina 1274 01:22:25,770 --> 01:22:29,220 and I, we get all kinds of cool stuff. cutting boards, bottles 1275 01:22:29,220 --> 01:22:34,050 of wine, you name it. Yeah, that's, I mean, we really do the 1276 01:22:34,050 --> 01:22:35,130 show for the alcohol, 1277 01:22:35,639 --> 01:22:37,259 as well as the fever five that way. 1278 01:22:37,349 --> 01:22:41,759 Yeah. Cutting Board, shall we? Thanks for more of our value for 1279 01:22:41,759 --> 01:22:46,979 value donors, Dave. And I would like to say I'm so delighted to 1280 01:22:46,979 --> 01:22:53,219 hear the leading podcasting podcasts, all soaking in value 1281 01:22:53,219 --> 01:23:03,119 for value. I hear new media show pod land, pod news. Doing 1282 01:23:03,119 --> 01:23:08,039 booster gram segments. You know, I love it. That's cool. Oh, 1283 01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:11,129 yeah. Well, and you know, and the money's getting better. 1284 01:23:12,149 --> 01:23:15,299 People are understanding higher amounts, you know, and that's 1285 01:23:15,299 --> 01:23:18,629 why we do have some cut offs. Because of course, there's a lot 1286 01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:23,669 of people do a lot of comments for low sat numbers on on 1287 01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:28,139 fountain. But it's kind of work it it's interesting, because I 1288 01:23:28,139 --> 01:23:31,379 hear pod land, you know, I'll hear James do not pod on pod 1289 01:23:31,379 --> 01:23:34,829 news. And it sounds like he's just getting you know, 10 SATs, 1290 01:23:34,859 --> 01:23:38,159 20 SATs at SATs where people leaving comments on a daily 1291 01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:42,959 episode. And he's not really pitching it's short show. So I 1292 01:23:42,959 --> 01:23:45,899 understand he's not really pitching value for value. 1293 01:23:47,069 --> 01:23:51,449 Whereas it pod lands I think the numbers are much higher. There 1294 01:23:51,449 --> 01:23:54,149 any any I heard him I caught him actually saying, you know, if 1295 01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:57,329 you get some value from this show, like wow, okay. There we 1296 01:23:57,329 --> 01:23:58,109 go. Yeah. 1297 01:23:58,590 --> 01:24:03,840 Mindset, no answer. Yeah. Yeah, we on that. Just real quick 1298 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:08,940 before we do the donations on that thing. You know, about the, 1299 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,770 you know, just about the apps and about the, you know, we had 1300 01:24:13,770 --> 01:24:17,700 a really good discussion with Pocket Casts that people from 1301 01:24:17,700 --> 01:24:18,510 Pocket Casts. 1302 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,620 Yes. First automatic and then Pocket Cast. Yes, we did. And 1303 01:24:22,650 --> 01:24:26,430 early in the week, and we, you know, we, they were gracious 1304 01:24:26,430 --> 01:24:31,440 enough to, to have a zoom call with us, and we pitched pitched 1305 01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:32,610 all the podcasts and 1306 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,780 I'll tell you the pitch. We would like you to declare the 1307 01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:39,900 namespace, the podcast namespace and every single product you 1308 01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:45,870 have including Pocket Casts WordPress, everything, and they 1309 01:24:45,870 --> 01:24:49,410 win and literally they went well, that sounds like a good 1310 01:24:49,410 --> 01:24:58,560 idea. So anyway, we're we're waiting. This is a Todd Cochran 1311 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,840 moment we're waiting just to get some time. information on them, 1312 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,120 we can just talk about a couple things because it was very 1313 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,820 informal. We just don't want to violate any trust at this point. 1314 01:25:05,820 --> 01:25:10,500 But we're super pleased. As you know, I've known Matt for a long 1315 01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:15,180 time. But he really did build a company with people who give a 1316 01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:18,720 shit. And they really care about open source, they care about 1317 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,350 open systems. That's what they do, obviously. 1318 01:25:23,790 --> 01:25:27,720 I will say confidently that, that Pocket Casts is in 1319 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:32,190 fantastic hands with being big and automatic. Yeah. And I can't 1320 01:25:32,190 --> 01:25:35,370 think of a I can't think of a better place for them to have 1321 01:25:35,370 --> 01:25:39,750 landed than this grid in May. Yeah. Good, good, good things 1322 01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:43,740 are gonna come out of this. I mean, we can, one thing I can 1323 01:25:43,740 --> 01:25:47,520 say about our talk with them is that they, they already knew 1324 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,490 about this, I mean, or excuse me on the Pocket Casts, they they 1325 01:25:50,490 --> 01:25:55,920 already knew about podcasting 2.0 and had plans around it. It 1326 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,380 just, they, they had a lot, you know, the automatic 1327 01:25:58,380 --> 01:26:01,080 transmissions been big and stuff. So they gotta get through 1328 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,600 some stuff. But they, they already knew about the stuff. 1329 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,160 And it was a really helpful zoom call to be able to just dig in 1330 01:26:08,340 --> 01:26:11,310 to the details, because they, they knew generally about 1331 01:26:11,310 --> 01:26:13,530 everything, but they didn't know a lot of the details. And we saw 1332 01:26:13,530 --> 01:26:16,740 we did some deep dives on, on the different tags and the way 1333 01:26:16,740 --> 01:26:20,400 things work and stuff and really just got to talk, you know, 1334 01:26:20,670 --> 01:26:24,210 and but what I liked the most about it is they really saw I 1335 01:26:24,210 --> 01:26:28,230 mean, it was a no brainer for them that like, well, so people 1336 01:26:28,230 --> 01:26:31,440 are publishing with these, with this extra data and these 1337 01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:35,580 features. Yes. Well, why why wouldn't we that sounds like 1338 01:26:35,580 --> 01:26:36,900 that's stupid not to. 1339 01:26:37,710 --> 01:26:41,430 Yeah, I don't think people realize that how many phase 1340 01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:44,130 there are out there that declare the POC test namespace? It's, 1341 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,190 it's, you know, 400,000 plus at this point, yeah, that's a 1342 01:26:47,190 --> 01:26:52,380 wow, did you did you ever have a chance to check Dave and see of 1343 01:26:52,380 --> 01:26:58,380 those 400,000? How many are in the 90 Day Count of updates? Not 1344 01:26:58,380 --> 01:27:02,850 done that? That would be something cool to see to see if, 1345 01:27:03,090 --> 01:27:07,230 if 2.0 feeds are updated more frequently? Or what percentage 1346 01:27:07,230 --> 01:27:09,990 they are, that number may be very small, I don't know. But 1347 01:27:10,020 --> 01:27:13,170 the point is, when you have people creating content, 1348 01:27:14,340 --> 01:27:19,770 possible 140,000, or whatever it is that at Buzzsprout. Another 1349 01:27:19,770 --> 01:27:23,610 100,000 rss.com, you know, 200,000, I have no idea. The 1350 01:27:23,610 --> 01:27:27,930 hundreds of 1000s can put in all kinds of tags a lot of these 1351 01:27:27,930 --> 01:27:32,220 guys have and people are doing it. This is why I was so 1352 01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:35,070 confident to say within a year Apple will have implemented one 1353 01:27:35,070 --> 01:27:43,260 or multiple namespace tags. And the reason why is if they don't 1354 01:27:43,260 --> 01:27:46,320 they're not business people, then that they have no business. 1355 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,750 And if Apple knows anything, they know how to run a business. 1356 01:27:49,650 --> 01:27:53,640 It's just it makes me insane. I mean, if everyone is going to 1357 01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,450 adopt this, everyone will except maybe Spotify, they may not. But 1358 01:27:58,290 --> 01:28:00,690 if you want a competitive advantage when the creators are 1359 01:28:00,690 --> 01:28:05,190 making it, they're putting it in there that you go. 1360 01:28:05,460 --> 01:28:07,830 Listen to you, Girl Friday, she'll tell you what's right. 1361 01:28:08,970 --> 01:28:12,780 Yeah, I would love to go back to Pocket Casts as my daily driver 1362 01:28:12,810 --> 01:28:14,460 used to be I love that user. 1363 01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:17,790 Oh, why did you drop it? Because of 2.0 features? Yeah, 1364 01:28:17,790 --> 01:28:20,520 cuz I wanted to play around with SharePoint. I wanted to support 1365 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,270 the project. And so I you know, and I move around, but, but I 1366 01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:27,870 still have it installed on all my devices. I still love it. I. 1367 01:28:28,650 --> 01:28:30,360 So that's cool. I can't wait to hear more. 1368 01:28:30,660 --> 01:28:33,060 What do you love about it? Because that would help 1369 01:28:33,570 --> 01:28:35,760 developers listen to the show. And they need to know these 1370 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:36,780 things. Okay, the, 1371 01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:40,950 the original reason that I subscribed, I paid for a 1372 01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:46,260 subscription was that it across any device, I was synced up. So 1373 01:28:46,260 --> 01:28:49,860 if I start listening to no agenda on my phone, and then I 1374 01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:55,890 come to my PC, and then I go later on my iPad, they that app, 1375 01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:02,640 new word that I was, yep. Which I loved it, you have lots of 1376 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:08,730 options per podcast options. So there are certain ones that I 1377 01:29:08,730 --> 01:29:11,760 want to be alerted. There are certain ones that I want to 1378 01:29:11,790 --> 01:29:15,540 automatically download and add to the queue. So they have this 1379 01:29:15,540 --> 01:29:19,500 really nice queue that you can establish and you can say I want 1380 01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:21,480 to put this at the beginning of the queue or the end of the 1381 01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:29,310 queue. I love that. Yeah, I am a I am a huge, huge fan of Pocket 1382 01:29:29,310 --> 01:29:31,590 Casts and every once awhile I still dip my toe in because I'm 1383 01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:32,370 like, oh, 1384 01:29:33,210 --> 01:29:34,440 there's no shame in that game. 1385 01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:41,760 And and they just make it really easy to subscribe to, you know, 1386 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,520 if you have the RSS feed. It's like as long as you know how to 1387 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,750 find that. It's easy because I as a test part, one of the first 1388 01:29:48,750 --> 01:29:52,530 things I did when I went on no agenda tube was I put the RSS 1389 01:29:52,530 --> 01:29:56,790 feed into Pocket Casts and said Do they support video? Sure 1390 01:29:56,790 --> 01:30:00,240 enough, it worked. I just put it in the Yeah, so they They've 1391 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,860 been supporting video for a while, because I did that. It's 1392 01:30:04,860 --> 01:30:12,210 been over two years. Yeah. So I'm a huge, huge podcast fan. So 1393 01:30:12,570 --> 01:30:13,320 that's exciting. 1394 01:30:13,859 --> 01:30:16,529 Oh, good. Well, we're excited. Hopefully they are listening to 1395 01:30:16,529 --> 01:30:20,009 the show, and they will hear fervently desire there to be. 1396 01:30:21,090 --> 01:30:25,080 Very, very interesting, though, the reasons that you were drawn 1397 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:25,470 to it. 1398 01:30:26,370 --> 01:30:30,450 Yeah, that kind of stuff. Hearing hearing listeners 1399 01:30:30,450 --> 01:30:35,610 describe why they like certain apps that is so valuable, 1400 01:30:35,730 --> 01:30:39,780 because it's not, it's one thing to get a request for something 1401 01:30:39,810 --> 01:30:44,370 from from somebody, and it says, Hey, can you please support? Can 1402 01:30:44,370 --> 01:30:48,510 you please support an X feature? It's another thing to hear a 1403 01:30:48,510 --> 01:30:52,830 sort of, sort of case study where you can listen to a user 1404 01:30:52,830 --> 01:30:56,940 who loves an app describe exactly why they love the app, 1405 01:30:57,150 --> 01:31:00,300 because then you may not want to replicate that that may not be 1406 01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:03,540 the identity that you're looking for in your app. But you can, 1407 01:31:03,930 --> 01:31:07,410 you can understand the thinking there and say, Okay, I may be 1408 01:31:07,410 --> 01:31:12,240 able to expect to take this and adapt my app to do something 1409 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,990 like this, that gives that gives the same feeling but for my 1410 01:31:16,110 --> 01:31:19,800 audience in the way I want to do things and then you can expand 1411 01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,290 your user base that way I think I think it's valuable, very 1412 01:31:22,290 --> 01:31:26,910 valuable. We're gonna do some some donations booster grants. 1413 01:31:26,910 --> 01:31:27,360 Yes. 1414 01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:30,720 And thank you in advance everybody who pre boosted and of 1415 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,050 course, you can go to podcast index.org bottom of the page. 1416 01:31:34,170 --> 01:31:37,800 There's a big red button donate button you can still reach us 1417 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,860 with your Fiat front coupons. Almost no one does anymore. We 1418 01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:46,020 do appreciate those monthlies. So we really lucked out really 1419 01:31:46,020 --> 01:31:48,120 appreciate the moment we blew out the monthlies. 1420 01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:49,770 No, no, no, the 1421 01:31:50,460 --> 01:31:53,910 the Pay Pal is not used anymore. Everyone's just boosting right 1422 01:31:54,089 --> 01:31:57,269 now. This was a strong Pay Pal week. Oh, okay. 1423 01:31:57,270 --> 01:31:58,800 What happened? All right. We 1424 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,440 hit we hit it hard. I mean, I don't know what the call went 1425 01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:04,410 out. Evidently. And I don't think it was us. Maybe draft put 1426 01:32:04,410 --> 01:32:05,820 something in the chapters because 1427 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,540 we got we got some help. Okay. All right. All right. 1428 01:32:11,010 --> 01:32:15,360 The route I mean, right off the top row voice blueberry 1429 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,490 podcasting says $250 1430 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,590 Wow, oh, my 1431 01:32:20,370 --> 01:32:25,110 Sakala 20 is blades on the Impala. Nice. Thank 1432 01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:26,760 you. Very, 1433 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,120 thank you for what you were doing the blueberry team. Oh, 1434 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,610 thank you, blueberry team. Thank you, blueberry team. They're 1435 01:32:32,610 --> 01:32:33,540 a handsome team. 1436 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:41,850 They are the beautiful team. Richard, he wakes me up, this is 1437 01:32:41,850 --> 01:32:49,110 anonymous is nice as soon as $200. And he says it's been a 1438 01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:52,470 while. So I will send via old style of transfer, still have 1439 01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:56,370 not been able to, I still have not been able to understand how 1440 01:32:56,370 --> 01:32:58,740 I'm going to keep track of the boost transactions for the IRS 1441 01:32:58,740 --> 01:33:02,070 effectively just helping out anonymously, okay, so that's not 1442 01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:06,270 something you have to worry about. For sending now. For 1443 01:33:06,270 --> 01:33:11,370 sending when you donate when you when you give away SAS you 1444 01:33:11,370 --> 01:33:15,390 don't, that is not something that you have to then convert to 1445 01:33:15,390 --> 01:33:19,200 monetary value it convert to US dollar value at the moment, and 1446 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,400 then account for that as income on your taxes. You are gifting 1447 01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:28,320 you're gifting that asset to another person. And so it's it's 1448 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,920 it's a non transaction on your point on your part. The 1449 01:33:31,950 --> 01:33:37,200 receiving party has to count that as income at the value at 1450 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,560 that time. Right? Yes. So you don't have to go through 1451 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:40,860 anything. 1452 01:33:41,009 --> 01:33:44,399 And also it's not a cheap it's not charitable, therefore not 1453 01:33:44,399 --> 01:33:48,119 tax deductible in case that was what you were saying. Yes, or no 1454 01:33:48,119 --> 01:33:52,799 charity dammit. We're going broke in a capitalist way. I was 1455 01:33:52,799 --> 01:33:57,629 gonna say profit but no, no, we'd like profit. We just don't 1456 01:33:57,629 --> 01:33:59,909 expect it. It's a difference. 1457 01:34:00,540 --> 01:34:05,280 Down the road. It's a mindset. It's a mindset. Thank you very 1458 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:12,120 much evolving dollars. Got $100 from AD Ryan. Hey, radio Inc. 1459 01:34:12,180 --> 01:34:15,240 Oh, nice. Thank you, Ed. Yeah, and he says Save the chickens 1460 01:34:24,990 --> 01:34:30,030 the The chickens are still strong. They were still too they 1461 01:34:30,030 --> 01:34:32,640 were too strong in the back of in the backyard when I get here. 1462 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:39,930 So we're still good. $100 from New Media Productions. And it 1463 01:34:39,930 --> 01:34:45,300 says Hey, guys, Todd Cochran here. No podcasting. Oh. 1464 01:34:48,540 --> 01:34:51,480 Wow. Professionally and privately. Thank you, man. 1465 01:34:51,930 --> 01:34:54,870 This makes me think that this makes me think that Todd doesn't 1466 01:34:54,870 --> 01:35:01,050 know that the blueberry team donated $250 They just they 1467 01:35:01,050 --> 01:35:03,480 basically went, went into his wallet when he wasn't looking. 1468 01:35:05,460 --> 01:35:07,800 Dollars ads not looking. I got an idea. 1469 01:35:09,420 --> 01:35:13,470 He showed up to the office and said, Hey guys, I donated $100 1470 01:35:13,470 --> 01:35:18,300 to podcasting. 2.0 And they're like, oh, oh, okay. 1471 01:35:21,330 --> 01:35:25,800 It's so appreciated. I mean, from Todd but also from his 1472 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,930 team. That's, that's really nice. I like that. I mean, 1473 01:35:27,930 --> 01:35:30,060 that's how it's supposed to work. This is how value for 1474 01:35:30,060 --> 01:35:33,600 value works. We come up with shit, we host it and then they 1475 01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:34,590 have to do all the work. 1476 01:35:36,270 --> 01:35:39,270 As a security professional though, I would I do have to 1477 01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:41,520 recommend that Todd change his Pay Pal password because his 1478 01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:48,510 name is evidently is Brian $50 from our buddy Dave Jackson at 1479 01:35:48,510 --> 01:35:49,680 the School of podcasting. Hey, 1480 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:54,360 Dave Jackson, thank you so much. Also, you know, he's, he's in 1481 01:35:54,570 --> 01:35:59,010 round two, podcasting. 1.0 He taught 10s if not hundreds of 1482 01:35:59,010 --> 01:36:02,130 1000s of people how to podcast. He's back doing it with 1483 01:36:02,130 --> 01:36:03,420 podcasting. 2.0 1484 01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:08,430 Throwing out videos. Good. Good, fun discussion the other night 1485 01:36:08,430 --> 01:36:12,390 with the podcasting power. Podcasting Power Hour. 1486 01:36:12,540 --> 01:36:17,340 Oh, yeah, I checked into that. That was kind of interesting. 1487 01:36:18,150 --> 01:36:20,400 I don't like the format. I hate Twitter spaces. No, 1488 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,450 I mean, either I what I think is so funny is that you have people 1489 01:36:24,450 --> 01:36:28,170 who are listeners and then and they just are they get to ask a 1490 01:36:28,170 --> 01:36:32,370 question and then just go on for hours and hours about themselves 1491 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:37,950 is like I don't kind of like that format that much is boring. 1492 01:36:37,980 --> 01:36:41,310 Yeah. Especially the guy is like, why can talk I can no 1493 01:36:41,310 --> 01:36:43,320 problem talking. You see, I just need to be able to hit one 1494 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,300 button on my phone and that button that just kind of did the 1495 01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:48,030 podcast got to be because I that's what I need. I just could 1496 01:36:48,030 --> 01:36:50,400 I bet I could tell you I can talk for hours and hours. That's 1497 01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,030 not the problem. 1498 01:36:51,870 --> 01:36:54,810 Oh, that was like, Yes, I believe that. Yeah, that is the 1499 01:36:54,810 --> 01:36:59,520 problem. Actually No shit. But that yeah, that was that was 1500 01:36:59,550 --> 01:37:01,380 that was interesting. I appreciate them asking me on and 1501 01:37:01,380 --> 01:37:06,060 fun, fun questions. Good. Good chance to explain some value for 1502 01:37:06,060 --> 01:37:06,360 value. 1503 01:37:06,540 --> 01:37:10,920 You're always a pleasant voice to listen to, in an interview. 1504 01:37:10,980 --> 01:37:14,430 Appreciate that. Yeah, it does have a little bit of NPR vibe to 1505 01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:15,660 it, but in a good way. Does 1506 01:37:15,660 --> 01:37:17,820 it kind of Oh, yeah. No, no, but 1507 01:37:17,820 --> 01:37:22,560 in like a smoky cigar kind of green visor kind of way. So it's 1508 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:27,000 like, imagine you dim the lights and there's one naked ball now a 1509 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:31,380 desk lamp with one of those flexible necks. And that Dave's 1510 01:37:31,380 --> 01:37:34,170 got his green visor on his in front of his monitor. And he's 1511 01:37:35,820 --> 01:37:37,920 like, Well, let me tell you about the namespace. 1512 01:37:38,430 --> 01:37:43,560 We've got a we've got a donation from there it is listed in Berg. 1513 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:49,710 OYSTEIN bariga OYSTEIN bariga. $49.99 Okay. 1514 01:37:49,710 --> 01:37:51,120 It's not working for me. Okay. 1515 01:37:51,150 --> 01:37:57,450 All right. Always, always done. Bear sad. Boy, same bear. This 1516 01:37:57,450 --> 01:38:04,530 time better? I think so. Okay. $49.99 Thank you. And the note 1517 01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,330 is donation. 1518 01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:10,320 And our reply is thanks. It's thank you 1519 01:38:12,540 --> 01:38:14,550 we got some boosts Yeah. 1520 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,400 Let's get some let's get our bluestone 1521 01:38:17,850 --> 01:38:22,470 blueberry 1776 through fountaining says snip first. 1522 01:38:22,740 --> 01:38:24,030 Okay, what that means I 1523 01:38:24,030 --> 01:38:26,250 don't know. Got it for 1524 01:38:26,970 --> 01:38:33,390 lavish synth 9999 and he threw fountain needs to survival cash 1525 01:38:34,230 --> 01:38:39,300 What do I need gosh you're still not following that. Mitch will 1526 01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:44,190 see as a test boost is a very long complicated test boost 1527 01:38:45,780 --> 01:38:49,800 meanest meet us excuse me, said 3333 through fat and he says 1528 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,080 boost for humanity 1529 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,460 Roy scheinfeld 1530 01:39:03,300 --> 01:39:07,890 Roy is back now he he started texting me very angry. 1531 01:39:08,190 --> 01:39:10,020 He did he was he was 1532 01:39:10,770 --> 01:39:14,100 always boost. I always boost it's on day. This is all on 1533 01:39:14,100 --> 01:39:17,730 Dave. I'm gonna read it to you. I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna 1534 01:39:17,730 --> 01:39:18,630 read it verbatim. 1535 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,110 He was not angry in his texted me. 1536 01:39:22,770 --> 01:39:27,930 He says I can beat the Israeli accent. Yes, I doubt him. I can 1537 01:39:27,930 --> 01:39:32,040 be distracted but I will never forget to boost if you don't see 1538 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:37,080 my boost. It's on Dave. I said I sent you the boost to check. 1539 01:39:37,470 --> 01:39:40,140 This is not Israeli but this is French. 1540 01:39:42,150 --> 01:39:47,760 I don't know what that was is yeah, that's pay Panthers. My 1541 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,470 actual Hebrew sounds better than that. 1542 01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:54,540 Yes, it does. I've witnessed your Hebrew it's actually quite 1543 01:39:54,540 --> 01:39:54,960 compelling 1544 01:39:56,220 --> 01:39:59,280 for a non for non Hebrew speaker and that's right. 1545 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:09,240 54,321 SAS from Roy to read it. Okay, he says Check out the new 1546 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:13,200 podcast features in breeze next my top podcasts and different 1547 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:14,100 layouts. 1548 01:40:14,190 --> 01:40:18,780 Yeah, you can do tiled layout of all the I love that I love the 1549 01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:22,440 tiled layout of all the images to cover art because no agenda 1550 01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:26,400 always changes it's always something different I love that 1551 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,010 tile as well and also the improve something with the 1552 01:40:29,010 --> 01:40:34,200 syncing to the graph much faster you know sometimes Yeah, with 1553 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,630 Breeze you know, you'd you'd start playing and it wouldn't be 1554 01:40:36,630 --> 01:40:39,990 paying anything like what's going on you do you know, go to 1555 01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:41,700 a menu developer get info 1556 01:40:42,420 --> 01:40:44,670 in your phone start heating up. Oh, 1557 01:40:45,060 --> 01:40:51,150 that's gonna that's my bug gets hot. I know. I'm finally 1558 01:40:51,150 --> 01:40:56,100 sentenced. Let's just see. Thank you, Roy. 1559 01:40:56,820 --> 01:40:59,490 And I also have a make good because Roy did booths last 1560 01:40:59,490 --> 01:41:04,890 week. 54 321. I have yet to decode the note though. Because 1561 01:41:04,890 --> 01:41:08,400 I ran out of time. So I have there will be make good two. 1562 01:41:08,610 --> 01:41:11,280 There'll be double double make good next week when I would 1563 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:12,330 decode his note No. 1564 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:13,710 extra boost then. 1565 01:41:17,580 --> 01:41:23,400 I love you Reuters and it is only 2500 SATs from Mike Dale 1566 01:41:23,670 --> 01:41:24,990 and he says go podcasting. 1567 01:41:25,020 --> 01:41:27,300 Yo Yo Yo yo yo go podcast. 1568 01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:35,520 Ga Orwell's in his one. Essay 1111 through fountain. He says 1569 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,010 Do you guys know how many podcasts get on board to podcast 1570 01:41:38,010 --> 01:41:43,260 and to point out in a month? You know, 1571 01:41:43,860 --> 01:41:49,650 can I stop for one second? There is a delivery of beef. I just 1572 01:41:49,650 --> 01:41:50,160 want to grab 1573 01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,460 that. And go for it. From Texas slim. 1574 01:41:53,850 --> 01:41:58,290 It is from KFC cattle. Yeah, nice. Yeah. But here's the 1575 01:41:58,290 --> 01:42:04,050 conundrum. UPS was delivering two things today. One is the 1576 01:42:04,050 --> 01:42:08,220 beef box. The other is a birthday present that Tina 1577 01:42:08,220 --> 01:42:12,450 ordered for me. And she said You absolutely cannot look at the 1578 01:42:12,450 --> 01:42:16,080 box. Because when you see the box, you'll know what it is. And 1579 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,530 it won't be a surprise. And so of course you see the bunks 1580 01:42:19,980 --> 01:42:25,410 well, so I saw the guy walk by up to the front of the door and 1581 01:42:25,410 --> 01:42:30,570 Phoebe heard him too. And, and so I went without my glasses, 1582 01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:34,620 which I promised her. I peeked through not the window itself, 1583 01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:37,890 but through the shade. And I can see there's all kinds of boxes 1584 01:42:37,890 --> 01:42:40,320 so I can't pick it up. I'm gonna have to wait until she comes 1585 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,710 home. I'm sure. I'm sure another I'm sure another two and a half 1586 01:42:43,710 --> 01:42:47,640 hours won't ruin the beef. It's not indirect. It's pretty it's 1587 01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:53,370 not direct sunlight so no problem. They look everyone's 1588 01:42:53,370 --> 01:42:57,330 like what's in the box. Come on. Come on. No, no, no, no lie. I 1589 01:42:57,330 --> 01:43:01,770 don't lie open the box. I'm not going to do it. Spell it not 1590 01:43:01,770 --> 01:43:05,280 going to do it at all. In fact, I'm gonna text my wife right 1591 01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:05,730 now. 1592 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:13,050 These two grand 1330 C 13 337. From the mere mortals podcast 1593 01:43:13,500 --> 01:43:17,520 through fountain in. Karen says Dave putting on a clinic Jones. 1594 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,440 That's right. This was a cold call me in high school. 1595 01:43:20,460 --> 01:43:21,720 Not a clinic. Really. 1596 01:43:21,780 --> 01:43:23,970 You know, that's what I said last week. I said I'm going to 1597 01:43:23,970 --> 01:43:24,960 put on a clinic you 1598 01:43:25,890 --> 01:43:28,440 Ah yes, yes, yes. Yes. 1599 01:43:29,070 --> 01:43:36,360 11 111 from forged fo very gamer name. Dismissed. You must be a 1600 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:40,920 gamer. He or she through fountain says I've got nothing 1601 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:50,910 to say. All right. Well, thanks Satoshi stream 55 5209. He, he 1602 01:43:50,910 --> 01:43:53,910 they have Satoshi stream says I like podcast index. 1603 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,690 We'd like you to thank you. We'd like you Satoshi St. 1604 01:43:58,350 --> 01:44:02,460 Jean Everett 3333 through fountain and he just says boost 1605 01:44:02,460 --> 01:44:05,970 with a couple of beers. Oops. Sorry 1606 01:44:10,770 --> 01:44:11,700 I don't know what happened. 1607 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:14,220 Let me try this 1608 01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:25,080 blaming creations. Everybody. Andy sent us 1000 Sastre caster 1609 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,690 Matic says you didn't hurt my feelings. Dave. I said you could 1610 01:44:27,690 --> 01:44:31,950 leave it it wasn't a huge deal. Okay. Thank you, Andy. I 1611 01:44:31,950 --> 01:44:36,120 appreciate that. I sent another 1000 sets. Thank you, Andy. 1612 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:41,460 Appreciate it. Anonymous sent 3333 through pod verse and says, 1613 01:44:41,790 --> 01:44:45,330 Oh, this must free from the pod verse team. Maybe Mitch says pod 1614 01:44:45,330 --> 01:44:47,700 verse mobile V for V is live in F droid. 1615 01:44:48,059 --> 01:44:52,739 Yes, yes. Yes, it is. I'm really digging it works Fanta except 1616 01:44:52,739 --> 01:44:57,539 for the streaming stats per minute. It's responsive. It's I 1617 01:44:57,539 --> 01:45:01,949 love that it comes to F droid Since I'm running graphing now 1618 01:45:01,949 --> 01:45:02,429 it's cool 1619 01:45:03,300 --> 01:45:07,080 1000 stats from Chad Pharaoh and Chad says test boost from pod 1620 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:12,480 verse on F Droid and success it worked. Auburn Citadel sent 49 1621 01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:16,680 for 90 through fountain and he says Dame Jennifer boost please 1622 01:45:17,250 --> 01:45:17,580 do 1623 01:45:18,510 --> 01:45:20,100 we have a gym Jennifer boost? 1624 01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:23,700 I have here's your cue to boost you know you want to me that's 1625 01:45:23,700 --> 01:45:24,330 what it is. 1626 01:45:27,330 --> 01:45:31,260 Here's your boost you know you want to 1627 01:45:31,950 --> 01:45:33,540 that's what everybody wants 1628 01:45:36,570 --> 01:45:41,010 4242 from pirate Hodel the fountain he says plus one for 1629 01:45:41,010 --> 01:45:41,790 Team Nano. 1630 01:45:43,380 --> 01:45:45,390 No Emacs, Emacs. 1631 01:45:45,420 --> 01:45:51,720 No, no, that's crap. So when I say Nano, I actually am using 1632 01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:56,430 nano but when I when I run it, what I type is Pico. 1633 01:45:57,480 --> 01:46:00,960 God that's the word pico pico no 1634 01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,480 now is an alias do 1635 01:46:03,480 --> 01:46:07,740 you use do you use pine pie so 1636 01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:12,090 you've never used pine no pine the email client 1637 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,900 have never used pine I've used mud I've never use pine 1638 01:46:15,930 --> 01:46:20,610 you're much my go to but pine I think pine specifically comes 1639 01:46:20,610 --> 01:46:24,150 with the PICO editor by default I think 1640 01:46:25,380 --> 01:46:32,250 I will make standard and I'll do this till the day I die. Is pico 1641 01:46:32,490 --> 01:46:38,430 dash W or no for no word wrap like that. It's just it is 1642 01:46:38,430 --> 01:46:41,310 ingrained in my finger muscles that that's that's all I can do. 1643 01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:44,670 Whereas I always start everything up with Word Wrap 1644 01:46:45,510 --> 01:46:51,210 with Word Wrap yeah I do yeah. Well wasn't pine was pine not 1645 01:46:51,210 --> 01:46:53,580 email was was pine messing it 1646 01:46:53,580 --> 01:46:57,180 up. That said pine comes with Pico. I guess it is it may be as 1647 01:46:57,180 --> 01:46:59,970 the editor for for even for pine email. 1648 01:47:00,990 --> 01:47:05,010 Yes What I thought but Pfeiffer says pine is not email. I 1649 01:47:05,010 --> 01:47:10,320 thought pine was email. feel dumb now? 1650 01:47:11,099 --> 01:47:12,539 I don't know. Well, 1651 01:47:12,630 --> 01:47:13,770 it's not that important. 1652 01:47:15,420 --> 01:47:16,200 Stop show. 1653 01:47:16,230 --> 01:47:18,960 No, don't stop. Please don't stop the show. Whatever. 1654 01:47:18,990 --> 01:47:22,260 10,000 says from River City mystery through faculty says 1655 01:47:22,260 --> 01:47:25,440 thank you for all you do for the podcasting community. Appreciate 1656 01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:27,690 your efforts to ensure that podcasting remains a platform 1657 01:47:27,690 --> 01:47:33,780 for free speech. Matt digue er de da, de IG. I'm gonna say dig 1658 01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,140 that deep river city mystery River City. mystery.com. All 1659 01:47:37,140 --> 01:47:42,300 right. Thank you, Matt. Appreciate it. 3333 for starship 1660 01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:46,650 Alvis fountain and he says can't wait for LIVE TAG functionality 1661 01:47:46,650 --> 01:47:48,750 and fountain mousse to do Bucha 1662 01:47:54,570 --> 01:47:59,370 rest of Calavera give us 2222 through fountain and he says no 1663 01:47:59,370 --> 01:48:02,700 gang what? Oh pew pew go pocket 1664 01:48:04,830 --> 01:48:09,780 where my emacs bros add where am I? Where am I vi sisters that 1665 01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:11,610 come on what's going on? Here? 1666 01:48:11,940 --> 01:48:16,140 Is my name my nano sister from another mister on the other end 1667 01:48:16,140 --> 01:48:20,580 here is the James Cridland 1001 SAS through fountain. He says 1668 01:48:20,580 --> 01:48:23,400 are you really quoting the apple specification, which only ever 1669 01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:28,710 refers to Apple? Because it's the apple spec? I love I love 1670 01:48:28,710 --> 01:48:34,710 this. The incredulity is dripping off kind of are you 1671 01:48:34,710 --> 01:48:38,070 really quoting the apple specification? Parentheses, 1672 01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:41,250 which only ever refers to Apple because it's the apple spec 1673 01:48:41,310 --> 01:48:44,400 close parentheses to suggest that Apple has written the spec 1674 01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,000 for the whole podcasting. They have not. They have written a 1675 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:52,170 spec for Apple podcast clients only. That is literally all 1676 01:48:52,170 --> 01:48:57,840 Apple cares about. Yeah, I want to just I just want to get wide 1677 01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:02,970 recognition here that I read this booster Graham with the 1678 01:49:02,970 --> 01:49:08,850 full amount perhaps more amount of incredulity and sarcasm. 1679 01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:10,530 Yeah, he actually intended Yes, 1680 01:49:10,530 --> 01:49:13,020 you'll get credit for that. Yes, well done. Okay. All done. 1681 01:49:13,050 --> 01:49:19,590 Yes. And yes, that's exactly what I did. James 3960 SATs from 1682 01:49:19,710 --> 01:49:20,610 Casper Zealand. 1683 01:49:20,730 --> 01:49:23,670 Thank you. Denise says boost a heart love 1684 01:49:23,670 --> 01:49:25,710 your unbelieving umbrella and ventures. Thanks. 1685 01:49:27,510 --> 01:49:31,170 Yours are particularly fun your umbrella adventures? Yeah. 1686 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:36,060 Fun is not what I would call it. Mitch 2222. This is one more 1687 01:49:36,060 --> 01:49:41,280 test boost. Got it. Mitch boost Bucha 69 through Yale from Yale 1688 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,490 through pod verse and he says Hell yeah, pod verse Now beer 1689 01:49:44,490 --> 01:49:46,680 live cheers from Gitmo nation. wienerschnitzel. 1690 01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:49,170 Nice. 1691 01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:56,610 See, that we get that there's some test booths, okay. 1692 01:49:56,730 --> 01:50:00,330 Anonymous 4500 SATs through cast ematic is make Get up for 1693 01:50:00,330 --> 01:50:03,090 playing the podcast with an empty wallet. I rarely look at 1694 01:50:03,090 --> 01:50:04,050 the app or possible. 1695 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,850 Yeah, when someone runs out of SATs you gotta make that clear. 1696 01:50:08,910 --> 01:50:09,900 devs Yeah, 1697 01:50:10,350 --> 01:50:12,420 yeah, this should be like a buzzer or something. 1698 01:50:13,590 --> 01:50:14,880 Yeah. 1699 01:50:15,570 --> 01:50:21,480 Three haptic feedback when your wallet runs dry starship Elvis 1700 01:50:21,570 --> 01:50:25,230 again 3333 through fountain he says keep doing what you do. We 1701 01:50:25,230 --> 01:50:30,180 will nice. See dubs 10,000 101. From pod Oh through the podcast 1702 01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:36,090 index website. Hey. Says boosting from podcast index.com 1703 01:50:36,090 --> 01:50:36,660 With lb. 1704 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:38,550 Nice, fantastic. 1705 01:50:38,970 --> 01:50:43,860 Moritz from lb as soon as 2100 says through also through the 1706 01:50:43,860 --> 01:50:47,010 podcast index website. It says Have fun at podcast moving in 1707 01:50:47,010 --> 01:50:50,010 Dallas, please spread the word about podcasting 2.0 and value 1708 01:50:50,010 --> 01:50:51,390 for value we plan on 1709 01:50:51,420 --> 01:50:55,260 that's why we're going bro in to spread the word. 1710 01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:01,170 Brian of London in the hive Dao for 45,899 1711 01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,020 Nice nice. Thank you. 1712 01:51:04,050 --> 01:51:09,720 He's in he said some Hebrew. Oh, and this is going to be yes. 1713 01:51:10,050 --> 01:51:12,960 Entertainment for Hebrew speakers as I butchered this it 1714 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:18,240 says the rev Tov Leeroy be mid Benito 1715 01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:22,080 Arif Tov means good evening. Almost like a missive. I can 1716 01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,050 find this because it did it go through the email. 1717 01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:29,670 No, it came directly off the node. It was a Bookstagram 1718 01:51:29,940 --> 01:51:31,470 Oh, but when when was it sent? I 1719 01:51:31,470 --> 01:51:34,170 guess is my question. I can copy and paste it into single chat 1720 01:51:34,170 --> 01:51:36,510 and now you're talking. Let's give it if you want to give it a 1721 01:51:36,510 --> 01:51:37,170 whirl. 1722 01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:44,280 Oh, here we go. Arif Toffler, Roy B Mitch. So he's saying no, 1723 01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:44,610 it's 1724 01:51:44,610 --> 01:51:47,370 not a C that's a T naught v dash v. And 1725 01:51:47,940 --> 01:51:51,300 now here's what he says is Good evening, Roy. Meet Mitch. That's 1726 01:51:51,300 --> 01:51:58,020 exactly what it says. But is that Oh, hello? Of course not. I 1727 01:51:58,020 --> 01:52:04,170 have no idea what it says. My Hebrew is extremely limited. 1728 01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:07,410 Is it read Arif? 1729 01:52:08,550 --> 01:52:10,890 Arif Tov is good evening that I actually know. 1730 01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:15,870 Okay, let's just do this was Google Translate. 1731 01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:21,690 Oh, you really think you can you just paste the translate from 1732 01:52:21,690 --> 01:52:25,980 Hebrew? Yeah, it works. Okay. What is good evening to Roy in 1733 01:52:25,980 --> 01:52:27,840 his bed. Yeah, it was close. 1734 01:52:28,860 --> 01:52:31,320 There we go. That word. 1735 01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,580 We just pasted all those squigglies into translate and it 1736 01:52:35,580 --> 01:52:40,920 did it. Oh, I know. I know. I couldn't I forgot to read from 1737 01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,390 right to left. That was my mistake. 1738 01:52:42,780 --> 01:52:47,490 That's what it was. is actually Mitch and Mitch robe. Red. 1739 01:52:48,300 --> 01:52:54,780 Really good at Trump's got a love grid. Jeff's got 55,555 1740 01:52:54,780 --> 01:52:56,610 SATs through fountain. Oh, beautiful 1741 01:52:56,610 --> 01:52:57,990 drive. Thank you so much. 1742 01:52:58,950 --> 01:53:00,810 Do you want to know what the boost message was? Course? 1743 01:53:01,110 --> 01:53:04,530 Boost booster. Got it. All right. 1744 01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,460 And you get the baller. You get the baller Tito 1745 01:53:08,490 --> 01:53:10,380 ballers ready. Alright, 1746 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:19,110 Lyceum through fountain give us 221,905 sets 1747 01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:23,100 Sakala 20 is Blaze on a 1748 01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:26,130 quarter mil bro. 1749 01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:31,740 It is nine rescue and he says rands day boost. What is rands 1750 01:53:31,740 --> 01:53:32,400 day Oh, 1751 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:33,420 I and Randy. 1752 01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,070 r a n d s de Ranz de i and Rand 1753 01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:41,850 Yeah. Hi. Nice. birthday or something? I think so. Yeah. 1754 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,920 What was what was the amount again? Dave? 1755 01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:54,990 221 905-221-9519. Maybe? Let me see. European format. 1756 01:53:55,140 --> 01:53:59,880 Iron Rand day. Let's, you know, there's this thing. May 19. 1757 01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:04,410 Called the internet. Yeah, you know, iron Rand days February 2. 1758 01:54:04,410 --> 01:54:07,470 So I don't know. That's. I don't know what this is. Maybe talking 1759 01:54:07,470 --> 01:54:10,050 about Rand. You know, the military industrial complex. I 1760 01:54:10,050 --> 01:54:12,510 don't know. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, was she born 1761 01:54:12,510 --> 01:54:17,700 in 1905? Oh, hold on a second. Because this is two to 1905. 1762 01:54:18,810 --> 01:54:30,060 Let me see. Iron Rand was born in 1905. No. Code. Nice. Well 1763 01:54:30,060 --> 01:54:31,440 done, Dave. Well done. 1764 01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:36,480 Thank you. Thank you. And Ron's birthday February 2 1905. It was 1765 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:42,450 the literally the second line of the histogram of waste. Okay, 1766 01:54:42,450 --> 01:54:44,940 please buy beer for James Crillon for adding the booths 1767 01:54:44,940 --> 01:54:48,210 number to the histogram numerology pays page. Best 1768 01:54:48,210 --> 01:54:51,030 premise with your presentation at Podcast Movement in Dallas, 1769 01:54:51,090 --> 01:54:54,720 go podcasting Martin lindskog co host of the secular foxhole 1770 01:54:54,720 --> 01:55:00,900 podcast, podcast. Thank you so much, Mark. appreciate that so 1771 01:55:00,900 --> 01:55:03,930 much. The delimiter comma street blogger 1772 01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:05,220 guy there he is. 1773 01:55:06,690 --> 01:55:11,640 33 And he says, howdy datamined Dave likelihood of World War 1774 01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:15,090 Three still is significantly higher. Evil Russia invaded 1775 01:55:15,090 --> 01:55:18,510 whole Ukraine. So please enter AI duck cooking in your web. 1776 01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:20,130 Yes, 1777 01:55:20,370 --> 01:55:22,500 this is because this will save the world you see. 1778 01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:25,800 Philosophy this non sequitur 1779 01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:33,330 is Putin getting you down? What AI dog cooking into your browser 1780 01:55:33,510 --> 01:55:35,700 and everything will go away. 1781 01:55:36,780 --> 01:55:45,240 Make Putin angry enter AI dot cookie into the sea. So please 1782 01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,750 enter AI cooking in your web browser or podcatcher to relax 1783 01:55:48,750 --> 01:55:53,100 from that looming war with silky voice with silky voice of Gregor 1784 01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:56,580 who will William Forsythe Foreman from kin so podsafe Yes, 1785 01:55:56,610 --> 01:56:00,810 with Rocco's best Liske Yo, what is Rocco's? Bessell Liske? 1786 01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:02,880 I don't know but 1787 01:56:03,030 --> 01:56:07,740 I'm not looking. We've been to many searches on this. 1788 01:56:08,490 --> 01:56:13,440 I also I do the intro for that just you know, he never mentions 1789 01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:18,150 me for AI. Yeah, all I do is I say that episode number, a 1790 01:56:18,150 --> 01:56:19,830 podcast about cooking No. 1791 01:56:21,780 --> 01:56:26,910 Never listen to the listen to the silky voice of data from the 1792 01:56:27,150 --> 01:56:31,740 database never know. I think he has to make good on that. 1793 01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:34,440 We got some monthlies. 1794 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,640 Please Okay, thank you everybody for thank you everybody for 1795 01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:43,890 participating in value for value using the apps new podcast 1796 01:56:43,890 --> 01:56:46,860 apps.com sending the value boosting booster grabbing 1797 01:56:46,860 --> 01:56:50,310 streaming sites. 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So if any of you go into Podcast Movement, you know 1810 01:57:41,460 --> 01:57:44,940 maybe something look cool and just saying, Hey, do we have any 1811 01:57:44,970 --> 01:57:47,310 we can wear any cool to you? Are we going to coordinate Bobbsey 1812 01:57:47,310 --> 01:57:52,920 Twins style Hi. Random a day random a day. How about I have 1813 01:57:53,130 --> 01:57:55,440 I'm with him and you do with him? 1814 01:57:57,810 --> 01:58:00,540 It's just about podcasting. 2.0 1815 01:58:01,830 --> 01:58:05,070 It says on the front it says asked me about podcasting. 2.0 1816 01:58:05,250 --> 01:58:08,160 on the back it says boost me bitch I'm telling you this. 1817 01:58:09,780 --> 01:58:10,860 That's that's how we should 1818 01:58:12,930 --> 01:58:15,180 you almost let that out of the bag. I'm glad you pulled it 1819 01:58:15,180 --> 01:58:15,600 back. 1820 01:58:16,770 --> 01:58:19,830 That was that was actually gone. That was actually an accident. 1821 01:58:19,860 --> 01:58:22,110 Okay, I'll tell you what happened. This is very bad. I 1822 01:58:22,110 --> 01:58:25,920 spit on my screen when I said boosting. Like Like, just rub 1823 01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,440 that off with my finger. That screen. It is a touchscreen. 1824 01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:28,980 Yes. 1825 01:58:29,010 --> 01:58:32,550 Yeah. You saved that one from disaster. Because that's for 1826 01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:33,480 episode 100. 1827 01:58:34,230 --> 01:58:38,010 Hey, it's coming up two more episodes. 100 It's gonna be fun. 1828 01:58:38,010 --> 01:58:39,060 What are we doing for our one? 1829 01:58:39,210 --> 01:58:42,900 record something that's very innocuous and innocent. To 1830 01:58:42,900 --> 01:58:44,730 counteract with the math jingle? 1831 01:58:45,270 --> 01:58:50,730 Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Listen, the introduction at Griffith or 1832 01:58:50,730 --> 01:58:56,670 something? Yes. Dave, Jennifer informed informed me earlier 1833 01:58:56,670 --> 01:59:01,950 that we, you know, it was it's terrible that episode 100 is not 1834 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,740 the episode we're doing our podcast movement when we've 1835 01:59:05,190 --> 01:59:06,810 we've hit the off by one problem. 1836 01:59:08,970 --> 01:59:10,560 Right. We couldn't Well, Oh, well. 1837 01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,980 It could have been could have been great. Yeah. 1838 01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,230 And we're just gonna it's just gonna be you and me. Right? No 1839 01:59:16,230 --> 01:59:18,630 guests. We're not We're not by anyone. weaselly an interaction. 1840 01:59:18,750 --> 01:59:20,640 Okay, now they can stay in the hall. 1841 01:59:20,730 --> 01:59:23,340 Exactly. Now, we should have like monitors outside in the 1842 01:59:23,340 --> 01:59:26,490 hall. So I can sit there and listen to us. The overflow room 1843 01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:30,960 overflow room. All right. Do we have anything else? Jennifer? 1844 01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:36,180 Thank you so much for of course, for being here. Thank you for 1845 01:59:36,180 --> 01:59:39,180 offering your help with the hackathon. Thank you for 1846 01:59:39,180 --> 01:59:43,530 becoming the dame of the pink database. And but just thank you 1847 01:59:43,530 --> 01:59:47,160 for being a really super nice person. And and always jumping 1848 01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:51,720 in and your your good energy, real good energy. We really 1849 01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:52,560 appreciate that. 1850 01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:53,550 Thank you, 1851 01:59:54,360 --> 02:00:00,510 Dave. A little less good energy, but I do love you brother. No, 1852 02:00:00,750 --> 02:00:05,820 no don't hit me with everybody that's it boosts a lot. You 1853 02:00:05,820 --> 02:00:08,070 helped them Jennifer out as well. We'll see you next time at 1854 02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:10,680 the board meeting for podcasting 2.0 1855 02:00:26,070 --> 02:00:30,660 You have been listening to podcasting 2.0 Visit podcast 1856 02:00:30,660 --> 02:00:38,250 index.org For more information, boost boost boost