Episode 98: Girl Friday

100:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,149podcasting 2.0 for August19 2020 to Episode 98 It's a200:00:06,149 --> 00:00:11,759girl Friday. Hello everybody,welcome once again to podcasting300:00:11,759 --> 00:00:16,7992.0 The one and only officialboard meeting of podcasting. 2.0400:00:16,799 --> 00:00:21,149the progression of podcasting.Hey, no, it will change things500:00:21,149 --> 00:00:25,169by the time we hit 20 Everythinghappening in podcast index.org600:00:25,349 --> 00:00:29,099The namespace which we'll betalking about today and of700:00:29,099 --> 00:00:32,789course everything that goes onin podcast index dot social. I'm800:00:32,789 --> 00:00:35,309Adam curry here in the heart ofthe Texas Hill Country and in900:00:35,309 --> 00:00:38,699Alabama, the man who put the Vin value for value say hello to1000:00:38,699 --> 00:00:41,729my friend on the other endladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave1100:00:41,729 --> 00:00:43,199Jones.1200:00:44,370 --> 00:00:50,100I told I told our top secretguests like as as we were1300:00:50,100 --> 00:00:54,210getting ready to launch I saidyou know usually the way this1400:00:54,210 --> 00:00:57,180happens you went you you did apre show go to the little1500:00:57,180 --> 00:01:04,800podcasters I said okay, usuallyhow this happens is while when1600:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,940Adam goes goes into the intro,I'm just I'm furiously typing1700:01:08,940 --> 00:01:13,140and trying to post these thingsto Twitter and Mastodon all at1800:01:13,140 --> 00:01:16,770the same time. And but this timeI'm going to be all calm and get1900:01:16,770 --> 00:01:19,350it done set up and good. Yeah,free2000:01:19,350 --> 00:01:22,980and then what happened? I'mcurrently right in the middle of2100:01:22,980 --> 00:01:23,760furiously typing.2200:01:26,100 --> 00:01:27,510Oh, indeed.2300:01:28,350 --> 00:01:31,890We did. Did you? Did you look atthe clips2400:01:33,690 --> 00:01:36,450I got your clips I didn't Inever look at anybody's clips.2500:01:36,480 --> 00:01:36,930That's2600:01:37,380 --> 00:01:39,540no don't even look he didn'tknow and look at the names or2700:01:39,540 --> 00:01:41,010anything. Yeah, I2800:01:41,010 --> 00:01:44,730looked at the names and I sawsomething that I saw previously.2900:01:44,970 --> 00:01:48,150But otherwise now I have noidea.3000:01:48,539 --> 00:01:53,189You need to take specialattention to the ISO yeah,3100:01:53,189 --> 00:01:54,659there's I believe there's two ofthem.3200:01:54,690 --> 00:01:56,310Yes the fruit one3300:01:58,290 --> 00:02:01,320there's there's that one there'sthere's another one because I3400:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,060had to I had to go to thedefense of another chicken from3500:02:06,060 --> 00:02:07,590a halt this Oh no.3600:02:11,850 --> 00:02:14,040Wait a minute. Are you down toone chicken at this3700:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,300point? No, I saved this one'slife. We're literally saved this3800:02:18,300 --> 00:02:24,870chickens live up to man. Takesome coffee. And I hear you're3900:02:24,870 --> 00:02:30,750all this nuts in the backyard.And I know, I know the sound4000:02:30,750 --> 00:02:33,300this time you know didn't likeyou remember when you had4100:02:33,390 --> 00:02:37,440chickens? When you had yourkitten when you had your kids?4200:02:37,860 --> 00:02:38,820Your kid and4300:02:38,910 --> 00:02:42,030I've spent several years tryingto forget but okay, if you want4400:02:42,030 --> 00:02:45,360to bring me back to that pain?Yes. Little little I still have4500:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,350some I still have Oh, littleinfant. Okay. Christina 30 years4600:02:49,350 --> 00:02:50,550ago. Yeah. Okay.4700:02:50,970 --> 00:02:53,550And you could always tell as theparent you could tell the4800:02:53,550 --> 00:02:54,540difference between uh,4900:02:55,410 --> 00:03:00,000oh, yeah. Yeah, of course. Ofcourse. Yeah.5000:03:00,210 --> 00:03:03,090Well, this way it is withchickens. You can tell bulk5100:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,950distress versus just by a soundSure. Versus an egg is coming5200:03:07,950 --> 00:03:13,260out distress and yeah, like, andI hear distress. And I ran I ran5300:03:13,260 --> 00:03:18,270out in this hole was standing ontop of the chicken. Oh, no. And5400:03:18,270 --> 00:03:21,780the ending was just like a hawkHawk now Hakan can mess with5500:03:21,780 --> 00:03:27,840you. This Hawk was about a foottall5600:03:32,430 --> 00:03:38,910dam and when pew pew this was aspecial Hawk is a second this is5700:03:38,910 --> 00:03:39,600cool. Hold on5800:03:44,790 --> 00:03:48,180that's what I should have done.I should have brought a bullet5900:03:48,990 --> 00:03:52,950pellet rifle. And by the by thebackdoor. This chicken was so6000:03:52,950 --> 00:03:56,610sad though. I mean, like, I sawthe Hawks standing on and you6100:03:56,610 --> 00:03:59,940could look at his face. And it'slike, it's like it's over.6200:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,030It is and now you already struckat him.6300:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,620I don't know what he did. But Iwent out there and you know, and6400:04:07,620 --> 00:04:10,320clap my hands and he flew offand then the chicken get jumped6500:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,060up and ran under the deck. Sookay.6600:04:12,090 --> 00:04:17,310Oh, man. Good to go. Chickens.Dave Jones. Save your chickens6700:04:17,310 --> 00:04:18,150everywhere.6800:04:18,689 --> 00:04:22,619Yeah, our yard has evidentlybecome known as the most halt as6900:04:22,619 --> 00:04:23,819the place to get cheap fresh.7000:04:25,650 --> 00:04:26,700Like cafeteria.7100:04:28,260 --> 00:04:30,450Good. Meat, meat and three.7200:04:31,830 --> 00:04:35,370Well, I had a very I had a verylate night myself not fighting7300:04:35,370 --> 00:04:40,470with with Hawks. I did learn alot about lnd last night.7400:04:40,830 --> 00:04:45,270Yeah, I was such a douche. You.You were clearly dealing with7500:04:45,270 --> 00:04:46,620something and I just want thebest.7600:04:47,430 --> 00:04:51,600So everyone went to bed. So letme explain the product. Let me7700:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,030explain the problem. I'll tellyou what happened. Okay, okay.7800:04:54,810 --> 00:04:59,250So all of a sudden podcast indexis not routing to my node at7900:04:59,250 --> 00:05:02,760home. And that's kind of mymonitor, you know. So I have8000:05:03,630 --> 00:05:07,080very like a 1% split of a lot ofdifferent shows just so I can8100:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,690see the booster grams, etc. Andit's not routing anymore. Now I8200:05:12,690 --> 00:05:16,380have channels I can key sendfrom the index to my note all of8300:05:16,380 --> 00:05:20,250that works. And I'm just like,What is going on here? And so,8400:05:20,280 --> 00:05:23,190you know, I had three or fourchannels, I had this mysterious8500:05:23,190 --> 00:05:27,240channel for something calledJustin Trudeau, which has just8600:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,750been sitting there for a whilebut has been sending SATs.8700:05:31,019 --> 00:05:33,149Is it him? Is it actually Idon't know.8800:05:33,150 --> 00:05:36,570But Justin Trudeau is node isconnected to a lot of podcasting8900:05:36,570 --> 00:05:40,9802.0 stuff. And, and I have to behonest, that the name really9000:05:40,980 --> 00:05:44,850turned me off. So, yeah, so I'mmessing with all this. Alright,9100:05:44,850 --> 00:05:47,280let me close these channels, letme get rid of fucking Justin9200:05:47,280 --> 00:05:50,220Trudeau stuff, well, thennothing came through booths9300:05:50,220 --> 00:05:52,920wouldn't come through. Soapparently, the Justin Trudeau9400:05:53,460 --> 00:05:57,870channel had been providing mewith at least some booster grams9500:05:58,110 --> 00:06:00,840for quite a while and thepodcast index channels were9600:06:00,840 --> 00:06:04,140doing nothing. And then as I'mlooking around, I'm seeing that9700:06:04,140 --> 00:06:12,000there's different channelsacross the board. With, you9800:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,640know, some that we've open toother nodes that have this9900:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,850similar problem. That's like,Okay, let me see what's going10000:06:17,850 --> 00:06:22,110on. So I really can't figure itout. I do not know what's10100:06:22,110 --> 00:06:25,140happening. Now, of course, I'veupdated my Umbral, we've updated10200:06:25,140 --> 00:06:29,340the podcast index node,everyone's running on lnd 15.01,10300:06:29,340 --> 00:06:33,270slash beta up your butt. Whoknows what that is? If all it10400:06:33,270 --> 00:06:37,080could be anywhere at this point.So I ping Graham, and this is10500:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,010now 930. Because okay, I'm justnot getting I'm not getting10600:06:41,010 --> 00:06:44,820boosts. I'm not gettingstreaming SATs, nothing.10700:06:45,450 --> 00:06:48,000For those people that don'tknow, Graham, he's He does, He10800:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,710doesn't sleep he's made ofmetal. And in Vudu, I mean, he's10900:06:52,710 --> 00:06:55,440so just like, at any time of thenight he in response,11000:06:55,950 --> 00:07:02,790at 1115, he cut out. He's like,man, I was up really late last11100:07:02,790 --> 00:07:05,220night, I gotta hit the hair, I'mgonna make mistakes. It's okay.11200:07:05,220 --> 00:07:07,920It's alright. But we did figureout a couple of things. And one11300:07:07,920 --> 00:07:14,310is that my chant, none of mychannels were syncing to any, to11400:07:14,310 --> 00:07:19,170any other channels. So my nodewasn't syncing to any other node11500:07:19,170 --> 00:07:23,340through a channel. And it turnsout, there's a set number,11600:07:23,580 --> 00:07:27,390channel sync peers, and that'sdefault is three. And11700:07:27,390 --> 00:07:31,140apparently, our node had none.So that was part of the problem,11800:07:31,140 --> 00:07:32,640because, well,11900:07:33,180 --> 00:07:37,290now I don't I don't understandwhat what is the setting or12000:07:37,290 --> 00:07:38,700configuration parameter do.12100:07:40,380 --> 00:07:44,610So when you open it, so what youhave channels that are open, and12200:07:45,180 --> 00:07:49,470the way that your node tells therest of the world, what channels12300:07:49,470 --> 00:07:52,950you have open is by an update tothe graph. And the graph itself12400:07:53,130 --> 00:07:59,040works through the peers. So whenyour node starts up, by default,12500:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,700it selects three peers. I don'tknow what criteria I'm sure that12600:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,690it has some. And it then syncsyour graph with that peer, and12700:08:06,690 --> 00:08:09,480then that peer supposedly willsync with, you know, so that's12800:08:09,540 --> 00:08:11,190kind of how the graph gets outthere.12900:08:11,339 --> 00:08:13,889It's the it's the gossip is theway it gossip, the gossip.13000:08:13,890 --> 00:08:17,130Yes, thank you. Now, meanwhile,I'm looking at the logs. And I'm13100:08:17,130 --> 00:08:19,950trying to find out, why arethese sets not coming through.13200:08:19,950 --> 00:08:25,230And this is a, this was veryeducational for me, the way13300:08:25,230 --> 00:08:30,330developers sometimes communicatethrough logs,13400:08:30,870 --> 00:08:31,770or lack thereof?13500:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,990Well, so I would get these errormessages consistently, which to13600:08:36,990 --> 00:08:39,810me meant, okay, it's trying tosend me one sat or something.13700:08:40,290 --> 00:08:45,330And it would say, can't can't reforward, insufficient bandwidth13800:08:45,360 --> 00:08:52,110to forward HPLC. So I kind ofunderstand the HPLC and13900:08:52,110 --> 00:08:54,870forwarding that and that's noway to decipher where it's14000:08:54,870 --> 00:08:58,680trying to forward to. Butinsufficient bandwidth is a14100:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,350weird term. So the first thing Ido is I'm like, oh, maybe my14200:09:01,350 --> 00:09:06,720node popped on, on this on theStarlink. And let me I'm looking14300:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,320at bandwidth, right? I'm like,maybe Tor is under attack.14400:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,220Graham said that too. Now,there's been some DDoS on Tor to14500:09:15,450 --> 00:09:19,380maybe somehow my node came backup and switch to the satellite14600:09:19,380 --> 00:09:22,260network. And maybe that's theproblem. So it took me a good 4514700:09:22,260 --> 00:09:26,940minutes before I was able tofind in some GitHub issue. No,14800:09:26,940 --> 00:09:29,520no, this is just how we reportwhen there's not enough14900:09:29,520 --> 00:09:35,010liquidity to get to whereversuppose and forward considering15000:09:35,370 --> 00:09:38,310payment fees, etc. Okay,15100:09:38,340 --> 00:09:43,560tear this is a terrible, verybad, terrible way to describe15200:09:43,680 --> 00:09:50,130it. The word choice here istypical, developer complete,15300:09:50,820 --> 00:09:54,030garbage like condition thatshould that term should never15400:09:54,030 --> 00:09:55,500have been used for thatdescription,15500:09:55,560 --> 00:10:00,240but I can also see in buildingthe light and light Lightning15600:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,270Network and I can see Adam andde fucking around building this15700:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,120and then we'll be like, Hey,man, it's just like the old15800:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,110peering of bandwidth. You know,let's, so we'll just we'll just15900:10:10,110 --> 00:10:13,440look at it as bandwidth not asvalue. You know, I don't know, I16000:10:13,440 --> 00:10:19,350can see how that happened. Butdown the road Young. Exactly, I16100:10:19,350 --> 00:10:21,630would have said, this is a greatname, and then you would have16200:10:21,630 --> 00:10:28,230gotten down and now let's not doso. So. Okay, so basically, any16300:10:28,230 --> 00:10:31,470channels that were created whenthese peers were not syncing,16400:10:31,740 --> 00:10:35,760never got synced to the graph,and were acting kind of as just16500:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,330private channels, because no oneknew about them. And apparently,16600:10:39,330 --> 00:10:42,030l&d does not go back later andsay, Hey, let me check and make16700:10:42,030 --> 00:10:46,710sure that everyone's everyone'scommunicated to the graph. So16800:10:46,710 --> 00:10:51,690you know, it just took me a longtime to close and open channels16900:10:51,690 --> 00:10:55,290and make sure that they wereshowing up on em boss, and then17000:10:55,290 --> 00:10:57,030we finally got to work. And asyou can hear, there's many17100:10:57,030 --> 00:11:01,770pupils coming through. So. Andonce again, I'm amazed that any17200:11:01,770 --> 00:11:06,870of this shit works at all. Oh,17300:11:06,929 --> 00:11:14,189is same. So you sent me this isthis is related in this. In17400:11:14,189 --> 00:11:21,269terms of terminology. You hadsent me a document about17500:11:21,299 --> 00:11:25,919lightning node Connect? Yeah,maybe about a week ago or so a17600:11:25,919 --> 00:11:29,639couple weeks ago. And hadwritten in my notes, we didn't17700:11:29,639 --> 00:11:32,279talk about it at the time on thelast show, but I'd written in my17800:11:32,279 --> 00:11:35,489notes, this, this type oflanguage in a spec is17900:11:35,489 --> 00:11:40,259infuriating. And in a in, here'sthe quote, this is from this,18000:11:40,289 --> 00:11:44,099the spec for lightning nodeConnect. Lightning node Connect18100:11:44,099 --> 00:11:48,149is a protocol that allows a nodeoperator to safely and easily18200:11:48,149 --> 00:11:52,259connect a web or mobileapplication valency does not18300:11:52,259 --> 00:11:56,579require the node to expose anyports. Instead, the application18400:11:56,579 --> 00:11:58,589and the node are connectedthrough a proxy server called18500:11:58,589 --> 00:12:01,829the mailbox, the connectionbetween node and application are18600:12:01,829 --> 00:12:08,189end to end encrypted. Okay. Fromthat wording, do you have any18700:12:08,189 --> 00:12:09,599idea of what this thing? No, no,I18800:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,560have no clue. I don't evenremember what I sent you. I know18900:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,050it was something that I liked.But I don't think I read the19000:12:16,050 --> 00:12:19,110specs or anything. I think Ijust read like the marketing19100:12:19,110 --> 00:12:19,620doc.19200:12:19,890 --> 00:12:22,860This is the top line paragraphgraph of the intro.19300:12:23,940 --> 00:12:26,730Why did I even send that to you?Why did I send that to you?19400:12:27,030 --> 00:12:29,400I mean, what's not? What's anoperator? What does that mean?19500:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,640Is that is that the you know, isthat me? Because I mean, is that19600:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,220a human being? Because I can'tconnect to some mobile19700:12:35,220 --> 00:12:38,760application? Was it allowing theoperator to connect? I don't19800:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,640know what this means. I don'tknow. Developers should not19900:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,520write documentation. Or logs,20000:12:44,670 --> 00:12:49,290yet. Seems like you're very goodat it. Yeah, well, I'm the20100:12:49,290 --> 00:13:01,410exception. Well, speaking of, ofdocumentation, I'm very pleased20200:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,660that James Cridland heard thecall, took took up the challenge20300:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,550and started building the podcastnamespace.org.20400:13:13,170 --> 00:13:15,120Very green. Now,20500:13:16,230 --> 00:13:20,220he did exactly what I hopedwould be done is take take the20600:13:20,220 --> 00:13:23,010whatever branding, make it yourown, you know, make sure it's20700:13:23,010 --> 00:13:26,010all connected, you know, don'ttry and make an island. And he20800:13:26,010 --> 00:13:30,240seems to make it open if peoplejump in. I don't know if he does20900:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,710he have collaborators yet ifpeople offered to help, because21000:13:34,740 --> 00:13:37,260that's going to take some timeto fill all that out. Man,21100:13:37,260 --> 00:13:40,560there's a lot of writing to bedone. And a lot of work.21200:13:40,919 --> 00:13:43,979Let's go to edit this website,which is a GitHub repository.21300:13:44,279 --> 00:13:51,059And this website. Yeah, let'ssee what the commits are. Every21400:13:51,059 --> 00:13:53,429single commit is James Kirtland.So nobody is helping with this21500:13:53,429 --> 00:13:53,939web site.21600:13:55,020 --> 00:13:57,810That's, that's not cool people.James Shea.21700:13:57,809 --> 00:14:01,739But But James, this has about5000 commits here. So he's, he's21800:14:02,069 --> 00:14:05,669Holy crap. He's doing he's he'sdoing the Lord's work. That's21900:14:05,669 --> 00:14:08,249for sure. Yeah. What's it isJames created, there's22000:14:08,249 --> 00:14:12,539github.com/james Cridland slashpodcast. namespace.org. If22100:14:12,539 --> 00:14:14,339anybody wants to go and pitchin,22200:14:14,549 --> 00:14:18,599like, you can just go topodcast. namespace.org. Yeah.22300:14:18,599 --> 00:14:18,719And22400:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,840then you can click on the editthis website at the very bottom22500:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,740left. Oh, I22600:14:22,740 --> 00:14:24,090see what you're saying. Okay.22700:14:25,110 --> 00:14:27,810And that will take you to theGitHub repo. Yeah, I22800:14:27,810 --> 00:14:29,910like this a lot. I like it alot.22900:14:30,330 --> 00:14:33,450Can you tell me this party?Because James was saying this23000:14:33,450 --> 00:14:36,600morning that as part of tryingto find example, screenshots and23100:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,880stuff like that for these tags.He's trying to find, as is, you23200:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,080know, based on the news today,obvious why. He's trying to find23300:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,150examples of transcripttranscripts on various apps and23400:14:51,150 --> 00:14:58,710how in screenshots and demovideos. Do we know if podcast23500:14:58,710 --> 00:15:02,700addict does too Transcriptsbecause I could have sworn it23600:15:02,700 --> 00:15:03,210did.23700:15:04,260 --> 00:15:08,640I think I have it. I think Ihave podcast addict Toronto23800:15:09,690 --> 00:15:15,030is it it's showing transcript inthe supported tag list on the23900:15:15,030 --> 00:15:18,840site, but he said he couldn'tyou he, he couldn't get it to24000:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,260work and I don't have an Androidphone so I don't know how to24100:15:22,320 --> 00:15:22,830test it.24200:15:23,699 --> 00:15:27,629I do have an Android phone. Letme test I will in fact, I will24300:15:27,629 --> 00:15:42,779test one with episodes. We testthis one we see visit that's the24400:15:42,779 --> 00:15:44,939show notes. Okay, hold on asecond.24500:15:46,799 --> 00:15:53,339Unnecessary devices. Now let meadd paddle. Well, here's here's24600:15:53,339 --> 00:15:57,269something Okay. Here's somethingthat we need to we need to talk24700:15:57,269 --> 00:16:00,569about with with James. Hedoesn't have transcripts in his24800:16:00,569 --> 00:16:01,289own shows.24900:16:01,380 --> 00:16:05,580No, I thought he did. I thinkpod land has no iPod news pod25000:16:05,580 --> 00:16:08,190way. And now I'm pretty sure podland has transcripts? I think25100:16:08,190 --> 00:16:14,460so. I've seen them I've justdon't they come out of25200:16:14,460 --> 00:16:16,410Buzzsprout automagically.25300:16:16,890 --> 00:16:19,410No, you gotta do it. I thinkit's an extra step when they25400:16:19,410 --> 00:16:20,160hold on.25500:16:21,660 --> 00:16:23,730While you're looking at the feedwhile I'm like I'm not gonna25600:16:23,730 --> 00:16:25,860argue with that. If you'relooking at the feed, and I'm25700:16:25,860 --> 00:16:26,070gonna25800:16:26,100 --> 00:16:30,180Well, I'm I'm opening it rightnow. Looking at the guy yeah,25900:16:30,180 --> 00:16:33,570you live white man speak withforked tongue. Let me see.26000:16:33,690 --> 00:16:38,550Oh, here it is. Okay, we're bothright. How can that they did not26100:16:38,550 --> 00:16:43,230have any transcripts up until upuntil the last two episodes are26200:16:43,230 --> 00:16:46,290the first ones that havetranscript. Okay. So Well, the26300:16:46,290 --> 00:16:49,590first 90 episodes did not haveto let26400:16:49,589 --> 00:16:54,539me say something abouttranscripts. Because the news is26500:16:54,539 --> 00:16:59,129there was a lawsuit against Ithink Sirius XM, who own where26600:16:59,129 --> 00:17:02,999they own Sirius podcast, one XM,whatever, they have26700:17:03,150 --> 00:17:04,890Pandora building on Pandora.26800:17:05,430 --> 00:17:09,030Right? But they have, they havea podcast, what they buy that26900:17:09,030 --> 00:17:12,930pod bean, they bought something.Anyway, so that egg, they got a27000:17:12,930 --> 00:17:19,080lot of shows high end talent,etc. So someone and I happen to27100:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,770know a lot about this. I know alot about the American with27200:17:22,770 --> 00:17:26,760Disabilities Act, I know all theins and outs dealt with it in27300:17:27,090 --> 00:17:32,910many different versions, my wifehas dealt with it. And all27400:17:32,910 --> 00:17:39,900positive, because the bottomline is complying with the ADA,27500:17:39,900 --> 00:17:43,860the Americans with DisabilitiesAct comes into play when, when27600:17:43,890 --> 00:17:50,220it is something that is a publicgood. So in the case of the27700:17:50,220 --> 00:17:54,180Ronald McDonald, house,charities were Tina worked.27800:17:54,900 --> 00:17:59,220Whenever they did a video ontheir website, they had to have27900:17:59,220 --> 00:18:03,990not just a captions ortranscript is different, but28000:18:03,990 --> 00:18:08,370captions, they also had to have,you know, a secondary track that28100:18:08,370 --> 00:18:12,720says man enters the room with ablue manager's room with a blue28200:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,590sweater on, you know, that kindof stuff. Because that is a28300:18:16,590 --> 00:18:20,010public good that people, thepublic need to be able to find28400:18:20,010 --> 00:18:22,860out about to make use of thisfacility, even though it's28500:18:22,860 --> 00:18:28,830private. It's a privatenonprofit. Okay. Now, for28600:18:28,830 --> 00:18:31,860entertainment shows, I do notsee the need for that.28700:18:32,100 --> 00:18:35,850Personally, I don't see why not.Um, let's just put that upfront,28800:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,680it makes no sense. It's supereasy. There's tons of places you28900:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,330can get it, it makes no sense tojust integrate that it really,29000:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,610it's crazy not to do that.However, I do not believe any29100:18:51,030 --> 00:18:54,180company should be forced,certainly not. And I think29200:18:54,180 --> 00:18:58,260James's words were bigcommercial companies should be29300:18:58,260 --> 00:19:02,100forced to do anything. You know,if it's under the guidelines of29400:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,920a public thing, you know, thenalright, that's different. But29500:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,680it's not just, you're a bigcommercial company. In fact, I29600:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,010really despise that. Because thenext thing that's going to come29700:19:11,010 --> 00:19:14,550down the pike is even though hejokingly does it, if you're a29800:19:14,550 --> 00:19:18,450commercial podcast every singletime you mentioned someone who29900:19:18,450 --> 00:19:22,380sponsors you, you have to sayit, I'm sponsored by them.30000:19:22,620 --> 00:19:26,610That's what this leads to. SoI'm not a fan of mandating that30100:19:26,610 --> 00:19:32,250just because, you know, just,you know what I mean? I think30200:19:32,250 --> 00:19:36,870the law is fair, when it's apublic good. We need the same30300:19:36,870 --> 00:19:41,490like we need wheelchair rampsand different bathroom30400:19:41,490 --> 00:19:44,160facilities. I'm okay with allthat. That makes sense. And30500:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,620that's been argued and that'sbeen you know, there's laws30600:19:46,620 --> 00:19:49,650about that, but not just becauseyou're big and commercial.30700:19:51,420 --> 00:19:55,710No, I I'd say I think I think Iwould agree with that just30800:19:55,710 --> 00:19:58,290because you're big andcommercial angle to that I think30900:19:59,670 --> 00:20:04,020the plant The playing field hasto be fair, across the board. I31000:20:04,020 --> 00:20:07,710mean, otherwise, you run into asituation where you have just31100:20:07,710 --> 00:20:11,100like was in the US for that I'msure a lot of other countries31200:20:11,100 --> 00:20:16,290for a long time, you had this,you had Amazon that enjoyed a31300:20:16,530 --> 00:20:21,780note, a no state tax, you know,lifestyle where they didn't have31400:20:21,780 --> 00:20:25,080to pay state taxes, therefore,there was always an advantage to31500:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,950ordering Amazon versus shoppingat your local store. Because the31600:20:28,950 --> 00:20:31,650local store had to pay you hadto pay local city and still in31700:20:31,650 --> 00:20:35,970state taxes when Amazon did not.And so it was just basically a31800:20:35,970 --> 00:20:40,110huge unfair advantage. Proppingup of a big corporation. I mean,31900:20:40,110 --> 00:20:43,860in well, we saw the same thingduring the pandemic. Yeah, the32000:20:43,950 --> 00:20:47,580local mom and pop shops got shutdown, you know, in droves. And32100:20:47,580 --> 00:20:51,450the only the only stores thatcould stay open were Amazon.32200:20:51,870 --> 00:20:54,570Amazon, Walmart. Right?32300:20:54,930 --> 00:20:56,040Right. Yeah, sure. Sure.32400:20:57,360 --> 00:21:01,560Yeah, oh, there just has to bethere has to be balance in the32500:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,720way the law is applied.Otherwise, you end up with with32600:21:06,750 --> 00:21:09,570it, otherwise, you end up withfavoritism in one direction or32700:21:09,570 --> 00:21:12,090the other, you know, the bigcompanies should not be unfairly32800:21:12,090 --> 00:21:14,970punished themselves. Smallcompanies should not be unfairly32900:21:14,970 --> 00:21:17,820punished. They shouldn't.Everybody should be equal under33000:21:17,820 --> 00:21:21,750the law. I don't. I think theproblem here though, and then33100:21:21,750 --> 00:21:25,830having to figure that out iswhat qualifies, I guess what33200:21:25,830 --> 00:21:30,330qualifies as a public? As apublic good, because we can, we33300:21:30,330 --> 00:21:36,480can see this, this is what thisis what case law becomes what it33400:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,570becomes? Because Absolutely,when you when you first33500:21:39,570 --> 00:21:41,970published something like, youknow, when you when you put in33600:21:41,970 --> 00:21:45,870an amendment to the to the USConstitution, about interstate33700:21:45,870 --> 00:21:50,460commerce, or, you know, equalprotection, will they go in33800:21:50,460 --> 00:21:53,340meaning one set of things willthen eventually they always33900:21:53,340 --> 00:21:58,260become, you can morph lots ofthings to fit the definition of34000:21:58,260 --> 00:22:02,430that other of that originalmeaning sure, in the like, I'm34100:22:02,430 --> 00:22:07,770not sure that there's a clear,public good seems, seems vague34200:22:07,770 --> 00:22:13,650enough to be able to apply a lotof a lot of stuff to it. I34300:22:13,650 --> 00:22:17,790prefer, like, you know, I mean,maybe it's just my libertarian34400:22:17,790 --> 00:22:27,330tendencies here. But I preferthe idea of let letting you34500:22:27,330 --> 00:22:29,490could call it the marketplace,but I don't, I don't really like34600:22:29,490 --> 00:22:33,120that term in this in thisscenario, you could let pressure34700:22:33,120 --> 00:22:40,440be applied by by people who havean interest in so I mean, you34800:22:40,440 --> 00:22:46,560know, the lawsuit is one thing,but then also, boycotts are long34900:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,060standing, you know, unionscropped up for this reason, in35000:22:51,060 --> 00:22:56,970the day, like that society willself correct a lot of things35100:22:57,510 --> 00:23:02,250without have without needing thehand of government do it. And35200:23:02,250 --> 00:23:05,190you know, and I understand that,you know, there's always going35300:23:05,190 --> 00:23:07,380to be counter arguments to this,I don't really want to get35400:23:07,380 --> 00:23:12,990involved in that. But, but youcan see, society shifts in lots35500:23:12,990 --> 00:23:17,130of ways over time, that did notdepend on the government to do35600:23:17,130 --> 00:23:21,090things sometimes in spite of thegovernment trying to do it. Look35700:23:21,090 --> 00:23:24,180at a look at marijuanalegalization that never came35800:23:24,180 --> 00:23:28,350from government that purely camein it was it was ripped from the35900:23:28,350 --> 00:23:32,790hands of government by bysociety. And, and the public36000:23:33,030 --> 00:23:36,000said, we're not going to handleit, we're not going to take this36100:23:36,030 --> 00:23:39,420anymore. We want this thing tochange, and it's going to change36200:23:39,900 --> 00:23:40,410in36300:23:40,500 --> 00:23:45,180it. And that's how we wind upwith 87,000 More IRS agents36400:23:45,180 --> 00:23:51,630because we're so against it. Ihave definitions for you. Okay,36500:23:51,660 --> 00:23:56,070although none of this waswritten with any online media in36600:23:56,070 --> 00:23:59,250mind. And most of it onlyapplies to video not even to36700:23:59,250 --> 00:24:04,800podcasts. I don't think audiohas, as has been addressed36800:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,480specifically in any of the law.Captioning or transcripts are36900:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,260required for public entities,including state and local37000:24:13,260 --> 00:24:16,830governments of both internal andexternal communications, and37100:24:16,830 --> 00:24:21,870places of public accommodations,which are public or private37200:24:21,870 --> 00:24:26,250businesses used by the public atlarge, private clubs and37300:24:26,250 --> 00:24:29,460religious organizations areexempt. So there's still a lot37400:24:29,460 --> 00:24:30,630of wiggle room in there37500:24:31,110 --> 00:24:34,680in public or private businessesused by the society at large. I37600:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,010mean, that that could be easilybe a podcast app. Yeah,37700:24:38,040 --> 00:24:46,560yeah. Yeah. Okay. But But bottomline is we I think what you said37800:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,870is it these companies who don'tdo it, when they easily can, I37900:24:51,870 --> 00:24:55,410mean, certainly we have it, wehave it on this show. They38000:24:55,410 --> 00:24:58,290should just be shamed. I don'thave to penalize them. I don't38100:24:58,290 --> 00:25:01,320give a shit about that. I don'twant that I I despise that part38200:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,830the most.38300:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,650I think people do notappreciate. I think many people38400:25:07,650 --> 00:25:16,950do not appreciate the power of,of the public. Social wave OMA,38500:25:16,950 --> 00:25:19,350I don't really know what term tous.38600:25:19,530 --> 00:25:22,200Oh, no, no, no, no, they care,but only when it's about a38700:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,530celebrity or something else.They do not get you're gonna38800:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,090trust me on this. Yeah. This hasbeen going on for a long time.38900:25:30,270 --> 00:25:34,110There's not enough people whocare to make noise about this.39000:25:34,140 --> 00:25:36,750They don't care. Do you hearthat? Deaf people? People don't39100:25:36,750 --> 00:25:40,710care. People don't care aboutyou. And I can't believe I said39200:25:40,710 --> 00:25:42,210that. Do you hear that deafpeople39300:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,250will never be invited on to theDeaf podcast.39400:25:44,459 --> 00:25:47,669Yes, I will. They love me. Theylove me. Deaf and Blind.39500:25:47,669 --> 00:25:49,169podcasters love me, man.39600:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,200They're just getting to thispart of the Braille so39700:25:52,949 --> 00:25:53,849not Braille.39800:25:55,140 --> 00:25:57,630or what have you. How does thateven work? If you're actually39900:25:57,630 --> 00:25:59,820deaf? You got to have somethingyou can't listen to a40000:25:59,820 --> 00:26:03,570podcast. That's why you need atranscript. Oh, because you40100:26:03,570 --> 00:26:05,940still got eyeballs? Yeah, yeah,40200:26:05,970 --> 00:26:10,050exactly. That's it's I would sayit's more for people who are40300:26:10,050 --> 00:26:13,980hard of hearing but we have somany foreign listeners who love40400:26:13,980 --> 00:26:16,110it. It's like oh, you know, Imiss some stuff and I can read40500:26:16,110 --> 00:26:20,130along and it's it kind of helps.And I grew up in a country that40600:26:20,130 --> 00:26:24,570had subtitles so it's secondnature for me and I see only40700:26:24,570 --> 00:26:25,140benefit40800:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,200the beautiful The beautifulthing about podcast transcripts40900:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,970too is that like what I was justsaying about taking time to41000:26:32,970 --> 00:26:36,480catch up like it is ontelevision or or actual Braille41100:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,930if you have to read Braillebecause I evidently don't know41200:26:39,930 --> 00:26:43,350the difference between blindpeople and deaf people sorry the41300:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,290there's a reason for that by theway is a completely free from41400:26:49,290 --> 00:26:53,370this week but the you knowpodcast transcripts every every41500:26:53,370 --> 00:26:56,580example of a podcast app I'veseen there that does transcripts41600:26:56,580 --> 00:26:59,280they're like immediate man thereJohnny on the spot. It's41700:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,170tracking really good. Yeah. Withthe spoken word. Yeah. No delay41800:27:04,170 --> 00:27:06,600like there is with closed canown broadcast television.41900:27:06,869 --> 00:27:12,539Now well, that's real timestuff. And yeah. Okay, what else42000:27:12,539 --> 00:27:14,249was I going to say here?42100:27:16,860 --> 00:27:26,670Well, I get the the idea aboutwhat I totally lost my note42200:27:26,670 --> 00:27:33,150here. Oh, I've got I broughtsome some clips. I had a in42300:27:33,150 --> 00:27:38,070this. This may also work intothis week. If you think of it42400:27:38,070 --> 00:27:40,020anytime we need to stop andbring our guests and just42500:27:40,230 --> 00:27:43,290Yeah, after you. Let's do someclips and we'll bring our guests42600:27:43,290 --> 00:27:44,670and I think would beappropriate.42700:27:45,090 --> 00:27:48,420Maybe we should bring together aguest in first and do clips with42800:27:48,420 --> 00:27:50,160the Are you sure but the guest42900:27:50,940 --> 00:27:52,680Yeah, she commands a lot ofattention.43000:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,800I'm 100% in favor of this.43100:27:56,820 --> 00:28:00,480Ladies and gentlemen, pleasewelcome to the podcasting 2.043200:28:00,510 --> 00:28:05,880boardroom one of the first videovalue for value podcasters Hey,43300:28:05,910 --> 00:28:08,820it's alright Brian of London Iknow three speak was probably43400:28:08,820 --> 00:28:15,420before would also dame of the noagenda roundtable. And friend43500:28:15,420 --> 00:28:18,420please welcome Dane Jennifer.43600:28:19,020 --> 00:28:20,010Hey, guys.43700:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,290Hey. Yeah, we got a full on Hey,guys night. Yeah,43800:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,320I was wondering if I should dothe NPR. Hi. Well, I43900:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,520was I was that would have beenactually let's let's re intro44000:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,350you. I wanted to just so peopleknow who named Jennifer is she's44100:28:37,350 --> 00:28:40,500been around since almost thebeginning of this show as well44200:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,720with her perfect jingles. Now44300:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,530it's time for some hot namespacetalk.44400:28:48,540 --> 00:28:52,680Which we subsequently banned fora while because we felt you44500:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,180know, there was like no women onthe show ever broke that rule.44600:28:57,210 --> 00:29:01,320But yeah, we fix it. Yes. Wefixed it. Yeah, your44700:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,150ESG score is up by one. Yes.44800:29:04,470 --> 00:29:05,460The token woman.44900:29:06,510 --> 00:29:09,990Yeah, sorry. I'm white and sisand hetero. So I don't45000:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,510know. Yeah. Well, welcome to TheClub. Yeah. But you're female.45100:29:15,510 --> 00:29:18,720So you have woman point? Yeah,exactly. Get some point. We get45200:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,980some points for that. You know,and I was talking with with Tina45300:29:22,980 --> 00:29:29,430last night. And it was kind oflike, what to what exactly does45400:29:29,670 --> 00:29:33,480Dame Jennifer do? You know,because you have all these45500:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,590talents. You organize? Regularmeetups, you organize meetups45600:29:37,590 --> 00:29:41,370for no agenda. You've organizedI think you do Bitcoin meetups.45700:29:43,110 --> 00:29:51,270You clearly the queen ofCharleston. You know you took45800:29:51,270 --> 00:29:53,970such good care of us when wewere there and everybody knows45900:29:53,970 --> 00:29:59,970you as like, oh Jennifer. Andand you know you're you're it's46000:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,950It's fascinating, smart person.And I like Thank you. What does46100:30:04,950 --> 00:30:12,390she do? Other than other thanjingles other than videos? You46200:30:12,390 --> 00:30:15,960know, this animated no agendais, I mean, you're the first46300:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,410ever saw using this tool. And Imean, you've been you've I don't46400:30:19,410 --> 00:30:22,440know how many you've produced sofar, but it's unbelievable. It's46500:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,120been unbelievable for the show.You know, you do corporate46600:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,630voiceovers, I think you domarketing, you know. And now, do46700:30:30,630 --> 00:30:33,660you just have a trust fund andyou hang out with people or do46800:30:33,660 --> 00:30:34,620you have a job?46900:30:35,010 --> 00:30:39,630Yeah, according to you that Ihave an island off the coast of?47000:30:40,230 --> 00:30:43,230Yeah, exactly. Yes. You havethat island. And then you just47100:30:43,230 --> 00:30:45,750come inland for a bit to hangout with the plebs?47200:30:46,050 --> 00:30:53,790No, I, I have been. I was wellmarried. And my neck will47300:30:53,790 --> 00:30:54,480marry well.47400:30:55,290 --> 00:30:57,630We were all well married her.Yeah.47500:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,680Unfortunately, that has ended.And so is that47600:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,590the scent now? Is that the samefor roses? Is that the same as47700:31:04,590 --> 00:31:07,260what they used to be called akept woman? Were you a kept47800:31:07,260 --> 00:31:07,740woman?47900:31:08,460 --> 00:31:09,810No, I just48000:31:10,620 --> 00:31:12,840know, because I knew you beforethe divorce.48100:31:13,500 --> 00:31:20,940Yeah, I wasn't I mean, working?Yeah, he, he owned a small IT48200:31:20,940 --> 00:31:22,200services company48300:31:22,230 --> 00:31:25,650on this island? Yeah, of course.This was when we48400:31:25,650 --> 00:31:30,570were in, in Chicago. And so I, Ikind of started working in the48500:31:30,570 --> 00:31:32,940business. And then I would justpick up I became kind of a Girl48600:31:32,940 --> 00:31:37,260Friday. So these small,whatever.48700:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,170Now it makes so much sense.Okay,48800:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,180I don't know what this termmean. Can you explain to me48900:31:42,180 --> 00:31:43,050girlfriend, let49000:31:43,050 --> 00:31:45,690me let me try. And let's see ifthat matches up with Jennifer.49100:31:45,690 --> 00:31:49,140Because I've hired many girl andboy Fridays, these are this49200:31:49,140 --> 00:31:53,310makes so much sense. In acompany, typically someone who49300:31:53,310 --> 00:31:57,540was in early at the formation atthe startup, you know, employee49400:31:57,540 --> 00:32:01,710number two or number three. Andthis is just a person who may be49500:32:01,710 --> 00:32:08,520applied initially, to be to,like office management or49600:32:08,550 --> 00:32:13,230whatever. And they turn out tobe so skilled in so like from49700:32:13,230 --> 00:32:17,460software integration packages toyou name it, all kinds of stuff.49800:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,900And so it's kind of like thisperson is in every meeting. And49900:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,810it's when no one knows what thefuck to do is like, Hey, do you50000:32:24,810 --> 00:32:28,260know how to do it? Don't worry,I'm I'll figure it out. Does50100:32:28,260 --> 00:32:30,120that kind of match?50200:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,930Ah, absolutely. If there were,if there was something that, you50300:32:33,930 --> 00:32:37,020know, the client would throw upagainst the wall, and if it50400:32:37,020 --> 00:32:42,600sounded interesting, I'd figureit out. So yeah, so I do have50500:32:42,630 --> 00:32:46,230some marketing and yeah, ofcourse, the voiceover but I also50600:32:46,230 --> 00:32:50,970did, like, I've got certified asa Microsoft, Small Business50700:32:50,970 --> 00:32:51,960Server Administrator.50800:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,980All Over the Map.50900:32:57,420 --> 00:33:01,020I wasn't I wasn't meetingplanner for a long time. Did a51000:33:01,020 --> 00:33:04,740huge conference of 7000 peoplein New Orleans. Yeah, like so.51100:33:04,950 --> 00:33:09,150Girl Friday, it just seems tokind of be the best. So that's51200:33:09,150 --> 00:33:11,280why I'm not surprised thatpeople don't know what I do.51300:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,720Because, you know, it's kind ofJack or Jill of all trades. And,51400:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,500and I hate saying that. It doessound cheesy, but no, it just51500:33:19,500 --> 00:33:20,700fits what yeah,51600:33:21,990 --> 00:33:26,130it just clicked for me like oh,okay, totally makes sense. Well,51700:33:26,130 --> 00:33:31,710yeah. So we're even perhaps evenmore appreciative of of the time51800:33:31,710 --> 00:33:34,890talent and treasure that you putin of which it's all three51900:33:35,370 --> 00:33:37,950because you actually chargeactual money for the stuff that52000:33:37,950 --> 00:33:43,500you're doing for us Yeah, you'renot just hanging out doing a52100:33:43,500 --> 00:33:47,280little bit of podcasting and bythe way, the animated no agenda52200:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,060I mean, that's those are seriousproductions. It's that's not52300:33:51,270 --> 00:33:53,310just something you throwtogether how long does it take52400:33:53,310 --> 00:33:56,550you to do each minute worth ofwork if you can calculate it52500:33:56,550 --> 00:33:57,000that way?52600:33:57,060 --> 00:34:02,190I I'm down to not includinglistening to every episode twice52700:34:03,540 --> 00:34:06,690to three hours per minute. Well,you know, you have to listen52800:34:06,690 --> 00:34:13,890twice and then you know, butthere were there was a few52900:34:13,890 --> 00:34:17,100months where there was justnothing funny because I like to53000:34:17,100 --> 00:34:17,370bring53100:34:18,450 --> 00:34:21,060OH, OH53200:34:28,350 --> 00:34:32,700That came out wrong. It was notfunny because the humor was in53300:34:32,730 --> 00:34:33,150like,53400:34:33,540 --> 00:34:35,040Hold on. Hold on a second.53500:34:36,090 --> 00:34:39,270Let me dig in the grave.53600:34:40,230 --> 00:34:45,510Nevermind. I was going through adivorce and my boyfriend broke53700:34:45,510 --> 00:34:46,680up with me. Come on, you guys.53800:34:48,240 --> 00:34:51,240That's what wasn't funny. Waswas not funny at all.53900:34:53,369 --> 00:34:57,299No, there were just things wereso bleak that I think even the54000:34:57,299 --> 00:35:01,199small bits of humor. It was justIt was really hard for me to do.54100:35:01,199 --> 00:35:04,169But I've gotten it down to aboutabout three hours per minute54200:35:04,199 --> 00:35:08,939what now that I kind of, yeah,but they're only three minutes54300:35:08,939 --> 00:35:14,639long, three and a half hours atwork. Yeah, but there's a sweet54400:35:14,639 --> 00:35:18,629spot because we, you know, youcan see when people drop off,54500:35:19,109 --> 00:35:22,769and we can hold them untilalmost the three minute mark,54600:35:22,769 --> 00:35:26,819which I think is pretty good.Yeah. And so I don't I, you54700:35:26,819 --> 00:35:30,089know, I enjoy doing the longerones. But if you're going to54800:35:30,089 --> 00:35:32,549lose them at three minutes, youknow, don't leave the punch line54900:35:32,549 --> 00:35:33,569to the end. So55000:35:34,650 --> 00:35:37,770yeah, you learned you learned alot about doing video for sure.55100:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,940Yeah, it's been really fun. Andmy third anniversary is your55200:35:41,940 --> 00:35:43,11050th anniversary.55300:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,100Oh, man. Is that when you didthe first one? Yeah, it55400:35:47,100 --> 00:35:51,030was for the for the 12thanniversary because I was short55500:35:51,030 --> 00:35:53,820on cash flow at the time. And Ithought, well, I can't55600:35:53,820 --> 00:35:56,670contribute treasure. I'm tryingto learn this to me Girl Friday,55700:35:56,850 --> 00:36:00,870trying to learn this tool for aclient. And it suggested55800:36:01,020 --> 00:36:04,350starting with an audio clip thatwas already produced and my55900:36:04,350 --> 00:36:07,230client didn't have our scriptready for what she wanted me to56000:36:07,230 --> 00:36:14,220work on. So Sharpton had justsaid, gurgles Kurt you Yeah,56100:36:14,220 --> 00:36:17,250instead of and I'm gonna say itwrong instead of Gamble's56200:36:19,050 --> 00:36:22,530girdles. And it was like thefunniest thing I've ever heard.56300:36:22,530 --> 00:36:24,930And I, you know, got together56400:36:24,930 --> 00:36:29,760and showed that to your client.That's not funny,56500:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,320but I also I sent it to you guysfor you know, like a happy56600:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,560anniversary. Didn't put it onYouTube or anything. And then56700:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,350the views started to go up and Iwent What the heck happened? And56800:36:40,350 --> 00:36:42,180I saw that. Adam, you hadtweeted it.56900:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,700Oh, wow. Here we go. Have youturned that into a business? Was57000:36:47,700 --> 00:36:51,420that? Is that part of yourbusiness now? animations and57100:36:51,420 --> 00:36:51,780things?57200:36:52,020 --> 00:36:55,920No, it's just a hobby. I did. Idid. Okay, I've done like three57300:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,090other very small projects forpeople. But they were friends.57400:37:00,210 --> 00:37:00,870So57500:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,360well. It's the shit blows meaway every single time. It57600:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,200really does. Yeah, no, it does.Tina and I the one thing what57700:37:10,290 --> 00:37:15,090does a new AMA? Oh, man, becausethat's something we get? Because57800:37:15,090 --> 00:37:18,180that's new. I don't know what'sgoing to come and pray and you57900:37:18,180 --> 00:37:21,900edit these things. You edit outall the non funny things. In58000:37:21,900 --> 00:37:25,170fact, you could have edited outseveral months worth of non58100:37:25,170 --> 00:37:26,700funny things.58200:37:28,020 --> 00:37:29,010I can't believe58300:37:30,690 --> 00:37:32,550you have no idea how red myface?58400:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,320Come on. Jennifer, we'refriends. Yeah, you can do58500:37:37,320 --> 00:37:43,410anything. You know, the minute Imean, actually very early on,58600:37:43,410 --> 00:37:47,010you got this up and running onno agenda tube and you got the58700:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,140value for value running. Take usthrough how that came about and58800:37:52,170 --> 00:37:54,570and the steps that you wentthrough? And just what was your58900:37:54,570 --> 00:37:59,820experience as someone whoclearly configure stuff out. But59000:37:59,820 --> 00:38:01,560this was new as a so Yang,59100:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,510and you're also one of the firstvery few people were using value59200:38:06,510 --> 00:38:10,800for value with video. So this isyeah, this is instructed except59300:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,350for three speak, which of coursewas there before?59400:38:14,190 --> 00:38:18,030I keep forgetting? Yes. Okay.He's going to the hive Dao and59500:38:18,030 --> 00:38:20,400Brian of London are going to,they're going to take away our59600:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,330donations now.59700:38:26,670 --> 00:38:30,450I don't remember the chicken andegg story. And Alex gates may59800:38:30,450 --> 00:38:34,950remember better than I do. Butwhen he created no agenda tube,59900:38:35,310 --> 00:38:38,670I immediately went there.Because I had started getting a60000:38:38,670 --> 00:38:40,260couple of takedowns on YouTube.60100:38:41,340 --> 00:38:45,390What will you do? And oh, thiswas animated. No agenda. Yeah.60200:38:46,170 --> 00:38:49,200And you know, why don't you knowwhy got taken down? We were60300:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,120telling the truth. That wasn'tfunny. It was not funny. But60400:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,810these guys are not funny. Justkidding. Yeah. No, your answer60500:38:57,810 --> 00:39:01,170was correct. Because never gonnalive that out. I'll stop. I'll60600:39:01,170 --> 00:39:03,510stop now. Stop. No, you'reright, because we tell the60700:39:03,510 --> 00:39:07,110truth. But it also what youedited is always funny. It's60800:39:07,110 --> 00:39:07,920always funny.60900:39:08,370 --> 00:39:10,710Well, that's the that's thegoal. Otherwise,61000:39:11,550 --> 00:39:13,830why bother? Yeah, yeah. Becausethe61100:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,370you're I'm trying to bringpeople to the show. And humor, I61200:39:17,370 --> 00:39:23,670think is the best way to attractpeople. And so Alex was working61300:39:23,670 --> 00:39:29,490on no agenda tube. And either hestarted to think about doing his61400:39:29,490 --> 00:39:36,000own fork of it was based on peertube, listening to you. Why, you61500:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,730know, pick things up. I'm alittle bit of a.61600:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,330So you have a GitHub login.61700:39:42,990 --> 00:39:47,400I just realized I ended up Iused to, and then I just got61800:39:48,690 --> 00:39:54,840because of the you know, theupcoming a hackathon. But um, so61900:39:55,410 --> 00:40:01,470he he did a ton of work on hisfork too. Make it podcasting 2.062000:40:01,470 --> 00:40:04,770compatible and every once awhilehe would reach out and you know,62100:40:04,860 --> 00:40:07,230tell me to do something orsomething had changed and you62200:40:07,230 --> 00:40:11,790know, Can I check it out and soanytime I would post on I call62300:40:11,790 --> 00:40:18,600it YouTube then I would also putit on a no agenda tube and then62400:40:18,750 --> 00:40:22,920so first to support video Ithink was pod brand and or curio62500:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,940caster I don't remember who wasfirst of those. And then I think62600:40:26,940 --> 00:40:31,560the only one other one is podverse, right that supports video62700:40:32,190 --> 00:40:33,780of the new apps you pod62800:40:33,780 --> 00:40:34,650verse does62900:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,090your pod verse, pod friendcheerio caster? Fountain.63000:40:40,350 --> 00:40:43,740Right. And that's what's weird.I get fountain SATs every once63100:40:43,740 --> 00:40:45,570in a while and I'm like, Whatare you people doing?63200:40:48,810 --> 00:40:52,800Yeah, so that's interesting. Iguess the audio works. Just63300:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,910listening to Hey, listen a lot.63400:40:59,940 --> 00:41:03,030So Alex, just shout to you.Because Oh, because you will be63500:41:03,270 --> 00:41:07,230uploading stuff on on no agendatube got it. Okay, cool. Yeah,63600:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,720yeah. I just love seeing howthese things come together. You63700:41:09,720 --> 00:41:13,140know, this is such a interestingcommunity. Yeah,63800:41:13,140 --> 00:41:17,190I think I mean, he he gets 100%of the credit of really, I, you63900:41:17,190 --> 00:41:21,540know, I'm sure that at somepoint, I asked him, because I'm64000:41:21,540 --> 00:41:23,640kind of annoying in that way.Like, hey, you know, there,64100:41:23,700 --> 00:41:27,360you're talking about XYZ onpodcasting. 2.0, can we have64200:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,490that, but it was probablyalready on his roadmap. He64300:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,520always seemed to kind of alreadyhave things in mind. So64400:41:36,660 --> 00:41:39,720Alex was born with a plan inevery day of his life is just64500:41:39,720 --> 00:41:44,580working the plan. That's the wayit goes much. I'm only a little64600:41:44,580 --> 00:41:45,060bit kidding.64700:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,400Yeah, so that's kind of thehistory I you know, I would love64800:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,600to see a more apps support it.But I know that it's a64900:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,800completely different codec. Andyou have to deal with all of the65000:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,580different, you know, resolutionsand bandwidth and all that65100:42:02,580 --> 00:42:04,770stuff. So I know, it's not aneasy problem65200:42:04,830 --> 00:42:08,730for the long term. Alternateenclosure will help that. But65300:42:08,730 --> 00:42:13,170that's like, Yeah, I think ofany, like, of any of the tags or65400:42:13,170 --> 00:42:17,280any of the future, you know,forward looking things. I really65500:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,890think alternate enclosure isprobably the one that is the65600:42:19,890 --> 00:42:24,780most far in the future, becauseit's going to just I think it's65700:42:24,780 --> 00:42:27,270quite it's complex, because theyknow you're dealing with65800:42:27,270 --> 00:42:29,130different, like you said,different codecs and things like65900:42:29,130 --> 00:42:32,280that. And that's people, evendevelopers don't want to deal66000:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,070with that stuff. Exactly whatthey want. They want to just66100:42:35,070 --> 00:42:40,590roll up in there with an mp3 andbe done in lunch. So yeah, yeah.66200:42:40,890 --> 00:42:41,490I mean, one day,66300:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,900one day, I was surprised that Iwas surprised to learn, I would66400:42:45,900 --> 00:42:50,670say that the pod pod versus theplayer they're using for the for66500:42:50,670 --> 00:42:53,970their app that it somehow is notappropriate to do per minute66600:42:53,970 --> 00:42:56,700streaming SATs, which is ashame. I know. They'll get to66700:42:56,700 --> 00:43:01,230it. I didn't realize. I wonderwhat that what that person when66800:43:01,230 --> 00:43:05,490would that problem is, anyway,not a big deal. I'm amazed any66900:43:05,490 --> 00:43:06,960of this crap work is so cool.67000:43:07,770 --> 00:43:11,550So would it be? Would it be fairto say that, would it be fair to67100:43:11,550 --> 00:43:13,800describe your job as yourconsultant?67200:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,810Yeah, I mean, that's kind ofthat's what I call myself on67300:43:18,870 --> 00:43:22,680unlike LinkedIn, and I need newbusiness cards, because right67400:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,440now they're, they're like, socringe, because I've had them67500:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,920for 10 years. And theyessentially say Jack of all67600:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,310trades.67700:43:29,340 --> 00:43:33,630Yeah. Well, here's your businesscard. Okay. If you if you have a67800:43:33,630 --> 00:43:37,080company and you want to besuccessful, hire this woman.67900:43:37,620 --> 00:43:40,830There we go. I like it. That'syour business card right there.68000:43:40,860 --> 00:43:46,620I look, you've done so much forme personally for the show. And68100:43:46,620 --> 00:43:51,150then the minute we were talkingabout hackathon for podcasting68200:43:51,150 --> 00:43:54,0002.0 who raises their hand68300:43:54,240 --> 00:43:55,740me Yes.68400:43:57,570 --> 00:43:59,280developer, you clearly68500:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,240have the Bona fie days is howyou say that word bonus, or is68600:44:03,240 --> 00:44:03,750it bonafide68700:44:04,740 --> 00:44:07,860bonus depends on if you're fromAlabama, it's bonafide.68800:44:09,150 --> 00:44:13,680Well, you You clearly have thebona fides and then so Speak for68900:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,730yourself South Carolina.69000:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,630Now, sorry, you69100:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,640know, you've clearly got youknow, got the skills to to69200:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,380consult on this topic. So whatwhat, what do you what are your69300:44:28,380 --> 00:44:29,520out of the gate salts?69400:44:30,510 --> 00:44:34,140Um, well, I I talked to a goodfriend of mine who is an69500:44:34,140 --> 00:44:37,710entrepreneur, but also adeveloper and he has started a69600:44:37,710 --> 00:44:42,600few companies and beensuccessful. And so I said, Can69700:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,310you look at that he's aware of,okay,69800:44:45,240 --> 00:44:48,450so those are the things that seethe you were like, you're like69900:44:48,450 --> 00:44:53,250developer, I'm like, check.That's me. Entrepreneur. We70000:44:53,250 --> 00:44:56,340started Potkins a process indexcheck. That's me. And then you70100:44:56,340 --> 00:45:04,230said successful and I was like,that's where that's where So I70200:45:04,230 --> 00:45:06,750have a pen and paper by the way,I'm writing these down because70300:45:06,750 --> 00:45:10,170this is your consultant. So wethis is the session, this is the70400:45:10,170 --> 00:45:10,890session. This is70500:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,110this is just the first meeting,you know, we're gonna have to70600:45:13,110 --> 00:45:15,090have multiple them. But70700:45:16,049 --> 00:45:23,729what, what? Thank you. Meetings?No, I got into podcasting to70800:45:23,729 --> 00:45:24,569avoid that.70900:45:24,990 --> 00:45:26,880Screw this hackathon. This isalready about71000:45:27,150 --> 00:45:29,760me. Now. This is my, this is myweekly mean, it's the one71100:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,480meeting I need.71200:45:30,990 --> 00:45:35,130No, you know, we can I can dothis all in writing to, not to71300:45:35,130 --> 00:45:38,910worry. But that one of the firstthings that he pointed out71400:45:38,910 --> 00:45:41,520because he's aware of whatpodcasting 2.0 is, but he'd71500:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,240never looked at the code oranything. So I sent him to the71600:45:45,510 --> 00:45:49,620GitHub, I sent him to the APIdocumentation. And he was like,71700:45:49,650 --> 00:45:55,680first things first, where is thehigh level flowchart? And I71800:45:55,680 --> 00:46:02,340won't, I'll, I'll bring it up.And I assume that I will be on71900:46:02,340 --> 00:46:06,000me to create, which is fine. Idon't, I don't mind it'll help72000:46:06,000 --> 00:46:06,330me72100:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,580to create the high levelflowchart of podcasting. 2.00 my72200:46:11,580 --> 00:46:15,180god, that would be that would beastounding. Create the72300:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,510high level flowchart and then doa pull request on James's72400:46:18,540 --> 00:46:23,490podcast. namespace.org. You go,I mean, then you've earned every72500:46:23,490 --> 00:46:24,780bit of the zero money that72600:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,410Hey, she's in the split today,we're gonna give her a healthy72700:46:28,410 --> 00:46:33,180split. Okay. Okay. Yeah, soboost boost for Dame Jennifer72800:46:33,180 --> 00:46:33,750boost,72900:46:33,779 --> 00:46:37,649if please. Because, you know, ifwe're, if we're trying to73000:46:37,649 --> 00:46:43,799encourage developers who areeither just involved in Bitcoin,73100:46:43,829 --> 00:46:47,609but have not listened to any ofthese shows, or are just73200:46:48,179 --> 00:46:50,789interested in podcasting, butI've never listened to your73300:46:50,789 --> 00:46:53,939show, because the only way thatI've ever learned anything about73400:46:53,939 --> 00:46:58,529what you're doing is via theShow podcast, and we can't73500:46:58,529 --> 00:47:01,649expect somebody to go back andlisten to 97 episodes.73600:47:02,790 --> 00:47:05,340Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah.Yeah.73700:47:05,370 --> 00:47:11,070Oh, speak for yourself. I lovecollege level course.73800:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,250Well, it is, if they have thetime, but I love what James73900:47:14,250 --> 00:47:17,490Cridland is doing. I took a lookat it the first time that he74000:47:17,940 --> 00:47:23,640posted about it on podcast,index dot social. So I don't74100:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,460know a couple days ago, Ihaven't looked at it lately. So74200:47:26,460 --> 00:47:30,990I'm going to use that. But Ialso just kind of like the74300:47:30,990 --> 00:47:36,360simplicity of your slide deck,Dave, that you gave me that. I74400:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,890sent you that right? Yeah. andsimplicity of that, too.74500:47:41,340 --> 00:47:45,330Let me ask you the quick,though, is, is this going to be74600:47:45,330 --> 00:47:48,060a successful presentation withthis, we're using this slide74700:47:48,060 --> 00:47:48,480deck.74800:47:50,160 --> 00:47:55,050I, I always like slides that areclean, simple and74900:47:55,170 --> 00:47:59,250understandable. And that isexactly what you had. I loved75000:47:59,310 --> 00:48:03,030how it looked. Now I am going towant to listen to the recording.75100:48:03,570 --> 00:48:06,570Just for my own understandingbecause I'm going to start I'm75200:48:06,570 --> 00:48:09,120going to have to fieldquestions. I'm guessing he's75300:48:09,240 --> 00:48:11,670gonna say what's gonna happen.I'm going to do my intro. I'm75400:48:11,670 --> 00:48:15,600going to do 13 minutes. I'mgonna give Dave an extra two.75500:48:16,020 --> 00:48:19,020And then Dave is going to startgoing through the namespace. And75600:48:19,020 --> 00:48:23,670he's and he's just gonna get toblock tag, which is number two,75700:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,960and we're gonna be out of time.75800:48:26,910 --> 00:48:33,690Bullshit. I'm going to have youpractice race. No, I'm not I'm75900:48:33,690 --> 00:48:38,220winging this zero practice.First time I do. I'll be the76000:48:38,220 --> 00:48:39,300first time I practice.76100:48:39,930 --> 00:48:43,530I'm a former corporateconference planner. Clients were76200:48:43,530 --> 00:48:47,490Arthur Andersen and Accenturethat that no rehearsal doesn't76300:48:47,490 --> 00:48:51,150fly. So it's a good thing. I amnot your meeting planner at76400:48:51,240 --> 00:48:52,020Podcast Movement.76500:48:52,470 --> 00:48:58,620So in my in my stint in my day,job life, I do presentations on76600:48:58,620 --> 00:49:02,550a fairly regular basis. Oh, sothis will be easy for you. Yeah.76700:49:02,550 --> 00:49:10,380And so and it's all slide based.And I have developed on the fly76800:49:10,380 --> 00:49:13,830capabilities that most normalhumans do not have. So I have76900:49:13,830 --> 00:49:18,180this in my bag of tricks that Ican speed up and slow down77000:49:18,180 --> 00:49:21,630according to what is necessaryto get the job done. I have a77100:49:21,630 --> 00:49:24,900complete half complete andunjustified confidence in my own77200:49:24,900 --> 00:49:25,680abilities to get this77300:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,110No, I'm sure it is justified.Are they going to have a77400:49:28,140 --> 00:49:29,460countdown clock for you?77500:49:29,940 --> 00:49:30,750I hope so.77600:49:33,060 --> 00:49:36,390They better be No. I'm soexcited about our session. I'm a77700:49:36,390 --> 00:49:41,250little bummed now about newmedia show was doing something77800:49:41,250 --> 00:49:45,690live on stage. And and Greenleereached out to me hey, we're77900:49:45,690 --> 00:49:47,580gonna have Caitlin would youwant to join him? Like yeah,78000:49:47,580 --> 00:49:49,560that'd be kind of fun to haveJames and meet together. But now78100:49:49,560 --> 00:49:55,380they've got like 18 people onstage for 45 minutes like six78200:49:55,380 --> 00:49:59,730literally six or 45 minutes likethat's that's not productive.78300:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,970It's too much. I think it's toomuch. Maybe I should bow out.78400:50:03,660 --> 00:50:07,350Yeah, belly about gracefully.You should demure.78500:50:09,210 --> 00:50:11,520Alright, so back to thehackathon. Yes.78600:50:12,870 --> 00:50:19,320So but beyond the flowchart thatthe other concern that he had,78700:50:19,350 --> 00:50:23,700was that it, because when he Iplayed him the clip when it78800:50:23,700 --> 00:50:30,150first came up in July, and debutproposed it and you said, no78900:50:30,150 --> 00:50:32,310rules just do something cool.79000:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,920Yes, it sounds exactly. Right.Yeah. And79100:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,550Greg was like, no, no, no,you're gonna need to tell these79200:50:41,550 --> 00:50:46,800guys what they want. Meaning,you know, you're gonna need to79300:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,820be a little more specific. So Ihad an idea and tell me what you79400:50:50,820 --> 00:50:53,160think. So we've been talkingabout pimps.79500:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,170See, for a while this is.79600:50:57,510 --> 00:50:58,500Dave's notetaker?79700:50:59,430 --> 00:51:02,010Wait. So we've been, you know,this has been recorded. Dave,79800:51:02,010 --> 00:51:03,150you can go back and listen.79900:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,050You could just read thetranscript. There you go.80000:51:08,130 --> 00:51:11,400There you go. So you've beentalking about pimps and I love80100:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,520the idea of the pimp database.So I wonder if there's not a way80200:51:21,660 --> 00:51:23,700because a little black book nowit's just80300:51:24,930 --> 00:51:31,560I know, right? So if, if we wereto kind of use the pin database.80400:51:31,830 --> 00:51:37,200Sidenote, sounds ridiculous, askind of a trial of these are80500:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,510some ideas that maybe youdevelopers should think about80600:51:42,510 --> 00:51:43,560for the hackathon.80700:51:43,620 --> 00:51:46,980Okay, so what you're saying, IfI can just try this, you're80800:51:46,980 --> 00:51:51,240saying, you'd like to developwhatever that means, the pimp80900:51:51,240 --> 00:51:55,470database, we start feeding shitin that becomes the base for the81000:51:55,470 --> 00:51:56,100hackathon.81100:51:56,669 --> 00:52:01,199I think so I think that we'vegot to give these guys and say,81200:52:01,199 --> 00:52:05,699guys, that really will beprimarily men, let's be honest.81300:52:05,879 --> 00:52:10,619But we need to give them somekind of structure, especially if81400:52:10,619 --> 00:52:16,259they're coming at thiscompletely new. And, and if we81500:52:16,259 --> 00:52:21,539can also, the other thing that Ifeel like I need to communicate81600:52:21,539 --> 00:52:26,549somehow, is, these are the appsthat are already utilizing the81700:52:26,549 --> 00:52:28,949namespace in these ways. Andthat's what your slide deck was81800:52:28,949 --> 00:52:33,359really helpful. Because you hadthose screenshots of, you know,81900:52:33,419 --> 00:52:37,589here's, here's chapters, andhere's a screenshot of a of an82000:52:37,589 --> 00:52:43,529app that's already using it. Sothat's something I'm still kind82100:52:43,529 --> 00:52:48,329of noodling through is, how dowe tell people there are things82200:52:48,329 --> 00:52:51,989that they can look at to see howtheir current implementation is?82300:52:52,109 --> 00:52:55,889How could you improve upon it,make it better do it82400:52:55,889 --> 00:52:58,799differently, blah, blah, blah,you know, it gets cool, quote,82500:52:58,799 --> 00:52:59,249unquote.82600:52:59,910 --> 00:53:04,650So okay, so the the slides, itsounds like what can happen as a82700:53:04,650 --> 00:53:11,130step one is that after theflowchart is that, this the, the82800:53:11,130 --> 00:53:17,280slide deck, post, talk, the, wecould try, we can post the talk,82900:53:17,790 --> 00:53:20,640if possible, if this podcastmovement would give us83000:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,110permission, we can post thetalk, and then and then and then83100:53:25,110 --> 00:53:31,860post the slides, and then usethat as sort of a, like a, some83200:53:31,860 --> 00:53:35,670guardrails and say, Okay, here'sthe, here's the tags you have83300:53:35,670 --> 00:53:39,300available to you, and theprotocols you have available to83400:53:39,300 --> 00:53:44,010you take these things, and, andthen get some inspiration from83500:53:44,010 --> 00:53:48,150the talk. Right, and go and dosomething along. You know,83600:53:48,630 --> 00:53:52,260that's, that's your that's your,what do you want to say, that's83700:53:52,260 --> 00:53:55,500your that's your set ofparameters is, is the things in83800:53:55,500 --> 00:53:57,540the talk to get you to get thejuices flowing?83900:53:58,530 --> 00:54:02,520Yeah, and then we have the pimpsthat the community can84000:54:03,270 --> 00:54:07,530contribute to have, you know,these are things that I've, you84100:54:07,530 --> 00:54:12,510know, seen lacking or would liketo see, or you know, that and I84200:54:12,510 --> 00:54:20,760kind of see, amps may be comingfrom listeners, and producers or84300:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,930meeting podcasters more thancurrent developers, but I could84400:54:24,930 --> 00:54:26,790be wrong, because, oh, no,84500:54:26,790 --> 00:54:29,610I think that's, that'scritically important that84600:54:29,610 --> 00:54:32,910podcasters and listeners haveideas that developers don't84700:54:32,910 --> 00:54:36,720think of, and vice versa. It'sabsolutely and I would say, we84800:54:36,720 --> 00:54:42,000have to make sure that it's notjust, you know, new tat we don't84900:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,150necessarily need new tags, buthere's all this stuff. Here's85000:54:45,150 --> 00:54:48,630all this data, here's how it'scategorized. What can I do with85100:54:48,630 --> 00:54:52,050that? Right? To create make?85200:54:52,890 --> 00:54:56,550Yeah, and you know, and thereare so many other I mean, I was85300:54:56,550 --> 00:55:01,440also thinking well, what ahosting company one it, can we85400:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,130kind of have three differentbuckets we could have, we want85500:55:05,130 --> 00:55:07,020to do something cool. For alistener, we want to do85600:55:07,020 --> 00:55:10,080something cool for a podcaster.We want to do something cool for85700:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,350a hosting company. I'm not surehow much the hosting companies85800:55:13,350 --> 00:55:19,050need or want anything. But itwas just kind of the third85900:55:19,050 --> 00:55:21,420audience that was a potential.86000:55:22,290 --> 00:55:24,330They want stuff that I thinkthey definitely want stuff.86100:55:24,330 --> 00:55:27,450Because what the one thing thathosting companies really want to86200:55:27,450 --> 00:55:33,600know, is what listeners want.They they really want to know86300:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,590that because they don't. I mean,they get some feedback. But the86400:55:37,590 --> 00:55:41,280feedback is, the feedback reallydoesn't come from the listener,86500:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,320the feedback always comes fromthe the podcaster. You know, I86600:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,010want to I want to get this and,you know, you rarely have so you86700:55:50,550 --> 00:55:53,340don't really have a scenariowhere a listener is listening to86800:55:53,340 --> 00:55:56,820a podcast on Apple podcast,says, you know, this, it'd be a86900:55:56,820 --> 00:55:59,850great idea for this thing to bea part of this podcast for this87000:55:59,850 --> 00:56:01,980feature to be part of thispodcast. Let me look up the87100:56:01,980 --> 00:56:06,000hosting companies who thispetition them, like that doesn't87200:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,680happen. Right? The podcastersthemselves have to communicate87300:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,310that through. So if no, I thinkthe hosting companies definitely87400:56:14,310 --> 00:56:19,590want as much input from allparties as possible. They, they87500:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,060they really thrive there, theirbusinesses thrive on, on feature87600:56:24,060 --> 00:56:26,220development and pushing. So outthere, I think they would be big87700:56:26,220 --> 00:56:26,760fans of that.87800:56:27,330 --> 00:56:32,580So how do we get you startedwith the database? Have you87900:56:32,580 --> 00:56:34,350already thought about this? Ofcourse I88000:56:34,350 --> 00:56:40,200have. But I wanted to talk itthrough before I even move too88100:56:40,380 --> 00:56:44,460much further forward. But Iguess, I mean, I can build88200:56:44,460 --> 00:56:48,720something or I can find a tool,I bought a domain. And I have a88300:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,540landing page for it. That's justsuper cheesy. So that if you're88400:56:51,540 --> 00:56:55,530at Podcast Movement, and you runinto somebody who might be88500:56:55,530 --> 00:56:57,900interested in you, they at leasthave a place to go and it's just88600:56:57,900 --> 00:56:58,890it's PC.88700:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,900Two zero.com 20988800:57:03,930 --> 00:57:07,020Yeah, two, zero, the numerals.So that'll be kind of the88900:57:07,020 --> 00:57:12,000landing to some people. And Idon't know if that's where we89000:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,580host the pimp database or89100:57:16,110 --> 00:57:19,830anything. Specifically, do youhave any skills with setting up89200:57:19,830 --> 00:57:20,700databases?89300:57:21,180 --> 00:57:25,470I used to? It would I would needto clear some cobwebs.89400:57:25,650 --> 00:57:28,620I don't think we need that. Idon't I don't think we need to89500:57:28,620 --> 00:57:32,730go to that level. I thinkbecause the GitHub repo, I think89600:57:32,730 --> 00:57:35,190that that's the way to do it.One is, yeah,89700:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,370yeah. That's what I mean, it'sbuilt for stuff like this. And,89800:57:38,640 --> 00:57:45,060okay, the GitHub, the namespacerepo. Also has a wealth of89900:57:45,060 --> 00:57:47,850issues that have already beencreated in and of ideas that90000:57:47,850 --> 00:57:52,830people had. Yeah, yeah. True.True, that nobody's picked up90100:57:52,830 --> 00:57:53,970and done anything with.90200:57:54,180 --> 00:57:58,020So you can raise a nice thoughtyou didn't like the way it was90300:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,000being communicated? Or90400:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,750I remember I remember Davesaying that, too. Yeah.90500:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,370I do. I don't like the way thisis communicated.90600:58:10,740 --> 00:58:14,160About the structure, like thestructure you'd have with issues90700:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,450or something or something you'dwrite it90800:58:15,450 --> 00:58:16,470wasn't working for you.90900:58:16,500 --> 00:58:19,470It's It's messy. I mean, it'smessy. But I guess what I'm91000:58:19,470 --> 00:58:24,150saying is like the so what I'vewhat I've started doing is, is91100:58:24,150 --> 00:58:27,090when there's now that we havethe pimp system, whenever,91200:58:27,330 --> 00:58:31,710whenever a new one is put, likethe first one is the Verify tag,91300:58:31,710 --> 00:58:31,920wait,91400:58:31,950 --> 00:58:34,680we don't have a pimp system.Where's, where's where's91500:58:35,730 --> 00:58:41,370the pit? The PIP system is theGitHub is GitHub projects. I91600:58:41,610 --> 00:58:43,290started creating a project91700:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,050Oh, I didn't know I didn't knowthis was taking place91800:58:46,350 --> 00:58:49,500did we've not discussed unlessyou do not discuss this in the91900:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,880board meeting. So the what I didwith PIP two, which is the92000:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,220Verify tag as I put it as aproject,92100:58:56,610 --> 00:58:58,530and then when you have aproject, then you can have92200:58:58,530 --> 00:59:01,710comments and shit under that youcan link issues to it. And92300:59:01,710 --> 00:59:06,060you can you can assign it, youcan assign sub tasks of the92400:59:06,060 --> 00:59:08,760project to different developersand blah, blah, blah, but it's92500:59:08,760 --> 00:59:14,490just my way of tracking it. Soyou know, but I think the just92600:59:14,520 --> 00:59:20,190dig through the issues list isprobably a great place to start.92700:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,570Just to get92800:59:21,600 --> 00:59:28,500brainstorming convert them tocamps, do we reach out to you or92900:59:28,500 --> 00:59:30,870do a pull request or I don'tknow how I just93000:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,380yeah, you can just you can justput you know, if somebody sees93100:59:34,380 --> 00:59:38,820something, they can put it tome. I can I can I can also spend93200:59:38,820 --> 00:59:41,130some time digging through therebecause I can probably spot93300:59:41,130 --> 00:59:45,030things pretty quick. Right? Thathas there's a lot of stuff in93400:59:45,030 --> 00:59:49,350there that was just like nah,this is not good. But I think93500:59:49,350 --> 00:59:54,870one thing Adam said was wasimportant that we don't we want93600:59:54,870 --> 00:59:58,140it to be clear. You said this,be specific. And one thing to be93700:59:58,140 --> 01:00:02,910specific on is we don't want newtags. We want, okay, existing.93801:00:03,690 --> 01:00:07,800We want the existing we've gotto we're getting way in for in93901:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,540front of our skis here becauseyou're 18 tags into this thing94001:00:12,570 --> 01:00:18,150and a few protocols. And and westill have, you know, apps that94101:00:18,150 --> 01:00:22,860only support one tag. Right? Soif there was, we don't want new94201:00:22,860 --> 01:00:28,260tags. So that's one guardrail.And then the more general idea94301:00:28,260 --> 01:00:31,500is, take what's already therealready available94401:00:31,560 --> 01:00:36,690and do something cool with thatbill. How about a cool search?94501:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,570You know, there's all kinds ofstuff that I can come up with94601:00:39,900 --> 01:00:44,340Discovery discovery, yes. Theelusive discovery? Yeah. Now94701:00:44,340 --> 01:00:49,740we've been talking about so. Sohow would a Normie, like a94801:00:49,830 --> 01:00:54,270listener who's not going to beon GitHub? Should I build94901:00:54,270 --> 01:00:57,870something for them to submit tome, and then I can transfer them95001:00:57,870 --> 01:01:00,420to GitHub or what are you? Whatdo you think? Well, I think95101:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,330I think we should just make anew repo a column on Yeah. 22?95201:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,520Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And thenthere's an enlisted have,95301:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,570hopefully, normally, this is fordevelopers. So developers need95401:01:15,570 --> 01:01:20,190to de they'll already know howto do these things, right? To95501:01:20,190 --> 01:01:21,900submit issues. And95601:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,390a hackathon is kind of bydefault. I mean, it's important95701:01:24,390 --> 01:01:28,770that podcasters and listenersare welcome. But it's really a95801:01:28,770 --> 01:01:29,610developer thing.95901:01:30,540 --> 01:01:35,820Yeah, in the in your your site,your hack, PC 20 hackathon.com.96001:01:35,820 --> 01:01:40,860That that can can be the thesort of explainer and gore and96101:01:40,860 --> 01:01:44,700Gabriele setup. And then theysay, and then you pass them off96201:01:44,700 --> 01:01:47,370to write a hackathon 2022 repo.96301:01:47,790 --> 01:01:50,670Okay. Yeah, that's kind of whatI was thinking. I mean, either96401:01:50,670 --> 01:01:55,890we need, we need like anonboarding for people who heard96501:01:55,890 --> 01:01:58,920about it sounds interesting.But, you know, had the96601:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,270experience that Greg did, whichwas like, Where what? You know,96701:02:04,500 --> 01:02:05,730like, I need a flowchart.96801:02:06,660 --> 01:02:08,670What is this float? Can I askyou about the flow chart?96901:02:08,670 --> 01:02:11,850Because this is, what is theflow chart? Charting?97001:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,330I don't even want to know, Ijust want to have it. Yes. I97101:02:15,330 --> 01:02:16,680want a flow chart. Well,97201:02:16,860 --> 01:02:20,070here's what is the chart? Whatis the flow? What flow is being97301:02:20,070 --> 01:02:20,580charted?97401:02:20,820 --> 01:02:24,660If. So that was one of thethings that I need to and you97501:02:24,660 --> 01:02:27,000just reminded me, I made myselfa note, I need to ask him for an97601:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,410example of one. And I was gonnago to one of his companies and97701:02:31,410 --> 01:02:35,220see if his, like, his API has aflowchart and just see, you97801:02:35,220 --> 01:02:36,870know, well, I like are you?97901:02:37,020 --> 01:02:39,030Are you? Sure? Yeah.98001:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,100Right. So that's, I'm not 100%Sure. But it was something that98101:02:44,100 --> 01:02:47,370was the first thing he waslooking for, which is kind of a98201:02:47,370 --> 01:02:49,890schema, you know, of like,what's going on here.98301:02:50,970 --> 01:02:56,250When I think of flow chart, withpodcasting, 2.0, I think of98401:02:57,540 --> 01:03:03,510something I've wanted for a longtime. Is a is like a motion.98501:03:03,540 --> 01:03:06,900This is this sounds like, soundsso much like an old man, when I98601:03:06,900 --> 01:03:12,810say this motion graphic, like,that's dumb term, but like, a98701:03:12,810 --> 01:03:17,790graphical representation of theflow of Satoshis as they go98801:03:17,790 --> 01:03:23,280through the value for valuenetwork system. With with, with98901:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,640motion showing the showing flow?99001:03:27,570 --> 01:03:30,660Yes. Where money goes in? Forvalue for value, that will be99101:03:30,660 --> 01:03:31,500cool. Yeah,99201:03:31,530 --> 01:03:32,880value for value. Yeah.99301:03:33,330 --> 01:03:36,480That's just the one that's likeone piece of the pie. And99401:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,050they're really99501:03:37,050 --> 01:03:43,380talking more about a visualdescription of the API. sounds99601:03:43,380 --> 01:03:43,920like to me,99701:03:43,950 --> 01:03:47,760I'm gonna, I'll double checkwith them. Because I told him, I99801:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,900said, I bet I'm gonna have to doit. And so I may have more99901:03:51,900 --> 01:03:56,760questions. But, you know, and Iwill probably have questions for100001:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,920you, Dave. As I start to kind ofunderstand. And then, you know,100101:04:02,430 --> 01:04:04,860try and figure it I mean, I willtry and figure I went to100201:04:04,860 --> 01:04:06,810Montessori. So I learned100301:04:06,930 --> 01:04:09,030I can get a steady learner.100401:04:09,060 --> 01:04:11,550Is that where you learn how toeat clay and stuff?100501:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,190I didn't eat dirt, but100601:04:15,810 --> 01:04:20,490that's my way of you. Kids arecool, man. They get it100701:04:20,490 --> 01:04:23,790suit. You're just you're reallywell taught the funny thing is I100801:04:23,820 --> 01:04:29,640when I meet someone at a party,I can tell Yeah, it's very100901:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,250weird. It's like it's kind of asuperpower.101001:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,340Well, there's there's somethingelse now when you when you hit101101:04:35,340 --> 01:04:39,090the party's because you have anew glow about you. Hola Dave.101201:04:39,090 --> 01:04:44,610Grab this you got that sword.Oh, yeah. I'm gonna grab that101301:04:44,940 --> 01:04:49,620because we now need toofficially pronounced the KU as101401:04:49,800 --> 01:05:01,980David Jennifer data now yourofficial name So here's your101501:05:01,980 --> 01:05:07,020scissors. Here's your scissors.Yes, your sash your scissors. We101601:05:07,020 --> 01:05:10,230really appreciate this, Jenniferand of course, we're here for101701:05:10,260 --> 01:05:15,000for anything. Anything you need,let us know. And we'll jump in101801:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,410and whatever we can.101901:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,070Yeah, I mean, we're gonna haveto down the road. It's not102001:05:20,250 --> 01:05:23,280something we need to obviouslysolve today. But then how do we102101:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,570start, you know, organizing thepresentation of what these102201:05:27,570 --> 01:05:31,560developers have come up with?And then some kind of voting102301:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,250process. Do we do like a sweet16? And, you know, we'd102401:05:35,250 --> 01:05:40,110like, Oh, man. Yeah, like thetournament? They like NC double102501:05:40,110 --> 01:05:43,410Yeah. Double A tournament? I'mnot familiar. Yeah, well, you102601:05:43,410 --> 01:05:46,200have like, you know, you have abracket of 64. And then it goes,102701:05:46,230 --> 01:05:49,860the winners go to 32. Then the16 teams into a didn't afford102801:05:49,860 --> 01:05:53,610then did the? Oh, okay. Yeah.Yeah. So102901:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,330you're kind of pairing?Brackets, brackets. So yeah,103001:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,260brackets, there's, there's theword. Thank you. Um, so you know103101:06:01,260 --> 01:06:03,990that that's something else. ButI mean, we're not there. Like,103201:06:04,110 --> 01:06:08,880right now, I think that theprimary thing is get people103301:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,680involved and interested, who, ifthey heard about it, and could103401:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,640get their head around, it wouldlove to contribute? Oh, and103501:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,780what's the what's the money?Like, can we start saying that103601:06:21,780 --> 01:06:23,670there's money, there's a bountyor is there,103701:06:24,090 --> 01:06:26,670it's going to be value forvalue, the voting will will be103801:06:26,670 --> 01:06:28,710done with Satoshis, I wouldpresume.103901:06:29,910 --> 01:06:33,420But here's, here's my own,here's the plan, the only plan104001:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,900I've come up with for the, forthe SATs for the for the prize104101:06:36,900 --> 01:06:44,970money is, is create, I like youridea for like a blog or bracket104201:06:44,970 --> 01:06:47,790or whatever you you know, havesome sort of an initial voting104301:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,480that goes through where youcould get it down to maybe four104401:06:51,870 --> 01:07:00,150projects. And then then we couldcreate, like four different104501:07:00,480 --> 01:07:06,000podcasts with each with, witheach description, just just one104601:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,380episode, just describing whatthe, what the project is. And104701:07:10,380 --> 01:07:15,060then everybody sends SATs to theproject that they think worst104801:07:15,090 --> 01:07:19,530is, is the winner. And then justadd up, whoever gets the most104901:07:19,530 --> 01:07:22,680SATs is the winner and then theyget they get the prize, they get105001:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,400the whole kitty. That's that wasthe only thing I had, there may105101:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,300be a much better way and opento, to all that we I mean, we105201:07:30,300 --> 01:07:33,570could just, you know, we couldThe other alternative is just105301:07:33,930 --> 01:07:35,370how about this and105401:07:35,670 --> 01:07:41,520change the future and winvaluable prizes? That's, that's,105501:07:41,550 --> 01:07:45,750that's there. Right there. Yeah,change the future, and win105601:07:45,750 --> 01:07:47,100valuable prizes?105701:07:48,060 --> 01:07:52,950Well, we, we could just say, youknow, put $1 value on it.105801:07:52,980 --> 01:07:56,100$500 $1,000. Now, whatever.105901:07:56,550 --> 01:08:01,740Value, value, value for value,watch this. We're gonna figure106001:08:01,740 --> 01:08:06,060this out real quick. Thesethings present themselves. Okay,106101:08:06,090 --> 01:08:09,690I would not start off with, Hey,we got you. First of all, we106201:08:09,690 --> 01:08:13,170don't have 500 bucks. We can'tpromise anything. True. That's106301:08:13,170 --> 01:08:16,830true. Then, you know, it's likepeople should be here for the106401:08:16,830 --> 01:08:20,550fun of it. Normally, people payyou to come to the hackathon.106501:08:23,310 --> 01:08:25,950What do you think? What do youthink about about doing it106601:08:25,950 --> 01:08:29,640purely through podcasting to dopodcasting app boosts? Yeah,106701:08:29,670 --> 01:08:32,280something like that. I like thata lot. And you have four106801:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,380different podcasts or twodifferent pods. I mean, two106901:08:34,380 --> 01:08:37,260different podcasts per project.And it's just one episode. Like,107001:08:37,740 --> 01:08:41,640this project is about thealternate enclosure tag and107101:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,570blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.And then they just vote. That107201:08:45,570 --> 01:08:47,820sounds extremely boring.107301:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,400Now that does that sounds like ashit idea. We're gonna have to107401:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,860think about it. Let's Yeah,stick a pin in it, everybody. I107501:08:55,860 --> 01:09:00,120don't know how to do. What aremost hackathons? It is not107601:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,430always money involved in ahackathon is there107701:09:05,130 --> 01:09:08,520I don't know that I would I wantmoney107801:09:08,610 --> 01:09:10,080or lots of free pizza.107901:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,130Maybe as also people just like,you know, like fans of some108001:09:14,580 --> 01:09:17,370technology. They go and do ahackathon. It's about getting108101:09:17,370 --> 01:09:18,540together and doing it.108201:09:19,859 --> 01:09:21,899Yeah, this is a virtual thoughthere's no108301:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,770I know. But But Is that not theactual kind of idea of a108401:09:25,770 --> 01:09:28,440hackathon. So what if it'svirtual right so what are the108501:09:28,890 --> 01:09:32,670differences that make yeah butyou because it's virtual you got108601:09:32,670 --> 01:09:33,480to pay people108701:09:33,929 --> 01:09:38,039No, but I mean that but here'sit's not that but it's the108801:09:38,039 --> 01:09:44,459painting the painting to me ismore a function of of this of108901:09:44,459 --> 01:09:47,909putting on display the power ofvalue of the value for value109001:09:47,909 --> 01:09:53,519Lightning Network and andpodcasting 2.0 value tag like109101:09:53,669 --> 01:09:54,089it's109201:09:54,150 --> 01:09:58,050no no I agree with I agree withthat. But there's two things one109301:09:58,050 --> 01:10:00,960is, if we if we say up front,oh, there's Gonna be a prize.109401:10:00,990 --> 01:10:05,280Now we can't say that value forvalue reward, whatever, we have109501:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,930to figure out the mechanism,because so if someone sends 5109601:10:09,930 --> 01:10:13,680million SATs to one project, canthe other projects ever be a109701:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,910winner? You got to put some,some parameters in there.109801:10:18,300 --> 01:10:20,640We'll see that's okay. Sohere's, here's when I said,109901:10:20,910 --> 01:10:24,210create four podcasts, or twopodcasts, or whatever this is,110001:10:25,110 --> 01:10:29,460my idea was that we, we have awallet that's going to receive110101:10:29,460 --> 01:10:34,740the SATs, and we are watching inthe voting, the SAT voting, then110201:10:34,740 --> 01:10:38,760when the winner is determined,then we say we send all those110301:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,720sets to the winner.110401:10:40,380 --> 01:10:45,720No, I understand. But how do youdetermine the winner? Whoever110501:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,720gets the most, no, but that'swhat I mean. That's, that's,110601:10:48,750 --> 01:10:51,300that's going to be that's notgoing to work because whoever110701:10:51,300 --> 01:10:55,170gets the most sets is like,okay, so I'm a big baller. And I110801:10:55,170 --> 01:10:59,220really liked this project. And Isaid 10 million SATs. Who's Who110901:10:59,220 --> 01:11:04,560else is gonna win? Right? Yeah,so we have to we have to come up111001:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,490with so I liked the idea ofmaybe aiming like gaming it111101:11:08,520 --> 01:11:13,440okay. Yes. Yeah. Yes, likegaming it? Totally. We got to be111201:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,020careful of that. So maybe111301:11:16,980 --> 01:11:21,090you just have donations of, youknow, if you want to give toward111401:11:21,120 --> 01:11:26,310the bounty to encouragedevelopment. Great. Here you go.111501:11:27,390 --> 01:11:30,720Put it to this, donate at thistime, or put this in your boost111601:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,190or whatever. And then the votingbe completely separate. And it'd111701:11:35,190 --> 01:11:41,010be, you know, however you wantblue ribbon panel writing. Um, I111801:11:41,130 --> 01:11:45,240Well, that I don't know, that II haven't really thought111901:11:45,270 --> 01:11:48,210through. I kind of like thecommunity voting. But I also112001:11:48,210 --> 01:11:52,140think maybe it does just need tobe like a board, quote, unquote.112101:11:52,710 --> 01:11:54,870Alright, I gotta I gotta readsome booster grams because112201:11:54,870 --> 01:11:57,690people are tripping out now.Because no, no, no, not at all.112301:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,170Not at all. But we're lit Ofcourse. And so right off the112401:12:01,170 --> 01:12:05,070bat, Todd Cochran. 10,000 SATsblueberry will commit to112501:12:05,070 --> 01:12:07,800contributing to cash pool ifthis is the way you want to go.112601:12:08,130 --> 01:12:11,430Well, no, no, that's cool. Well,just send us the cash. We'll112701:12:11,430 --> 01:12:12,030take care of it.112801:12:13,500 --> 01:12:15,840Yeah, we'll we'll make sure itgets to the right place.112901:12:17,220 --> 01:12:20,550floydian slips 3200 People go tohackathons, because they are113001:12:20,550 --> 01:12:24,300passionate about a project. Theyaren't bounty hunting events.113101:12:24,660 --> 01:12:27,750And that's kind of what Ithought but I I liked the idea113201:12:27,750 --> 01:12:32,340of using the value tag. Maybeit's putting someone in your113301:12:32,340 --> 01:12:35,520splits. I mean, there's allkinds of we just got to work on113401:12:35,520 --> 01:12:41,610that. Pay two or 50,000 SATscongratulations Dame Jenny bear.113501:12:42,360 --> 01:12:50,490Okay, not quite sure. Booper ofnoses 800 SATs thank you for113601:12:50,490 --> 01:12:55,440brave noses. And then Holy moly.Darren O'Neil podcast113701:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,580shot caller 20 plays only113801:13:00,480 --> 01:13:06,570100,001 SATs from Darren says ohyeah, you're a big drop. It's a113901:13:06,570 --> 01:13:09,390pleasure to hear Dame Jenniferbringing some levity to an114001:13:09,390 --> 01:13:11,670otherwise non funny show.114101:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,650Oh, that's gonna be on myheadstone.114201:13:21,060 --> 01:13:24,7502222 from McIntosh who saysmissing the show live today. I'm114301:13:24,750 --> 01:13:31,080sure it'd be awesome hit me withgo podcast. We got blueberry114401:13:31,350 --> 01:13:36,900with the Oso religious 7777 thestriper boost Hey, Dame Jennifer114501:13:36,990 --> 01:13:39,810can't wait for a Nashvilleroller rink. Meet up part two.114601:13:40,440 --> 01:13:43,980Yeah, I met him in February.There you go. Yeah.114701:13:44,730 --> 01:13:49,020Sam Sethi responding Dave withanother 1000 SATs. We do have114801:13:49,020 --> 01:13:52,170transcripts. Occasionally it'smissing. Occasionally it's114901:13:52,170 --> 01:13:54,870missing but pod land does doesokay.115001:13:56,790 --> 01:13:58,770My apologies but deficits hereapologies.115101:14:00,300 --> 01:14:05,040Captain Egghead, go V four Vwith a row of ducks 2222 Thank115201:14:05,040 --> 01:14:11,460you. And let me see what oh mygoodness. There you go. We have115301:14:11,460 --> 01:14:15,570blueberry and blueberry alsohits it hard how115401:14:15,570 --> 01:14:20,220long 20 is played on am Paula100,001115501:14:20,220 --> 01:14:25,680equaling Darren O'Neil oldladies, BTS will be live115601:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,620following this Cummings noagenda on Sunday. Come get us an115701:14:28,620 --> 01:14:33,360ad. Come get some action onbanned Radio dot live or a new115801:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,280podcast app new podcast apps.comWe'll be rocking out hard with115901:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,390the gematria boost bot in thegreen room chats these goats are116001:14:42,390 --> 01:14:44,190going to sacrifice themselves.116101:14:45,210 --> 01:14:50,340So this this Gematria boost botthing he explained it later. And116201:14:50,370 --> 01:14:55,410it's like there's there's acertain code if you if you send116301:14:55,410 --> 01:14:58,680them if you send boosts of acertain amount it it ends up116401:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,870displaying a certain amountWould you string116501:15:01,740 --> 01:15:05,190Yes and it's fingered fires adifferent sound as well.116601:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,370Yeah. And so it's like a gametrying to figure trying to get116701:15:08,370 --> 01:15:11,190like decipher this shinda sincethat's the116801:15:11,190 --> 01:15:15,450shit I expect out of ahackathon. Yeah, that's boost116901:15:15,450 --> 01:15:18,030bots. These these are by theway, these are pretty good117001:15:18,030 --> 01:15:21,840examples. These are coolhackathon. Hackathon things.117101:15:22,260 --> 01:15:26,370leaderboards? Oh, my goodnessvoting. How about a voting117201:15:26,370 --> 01:15:31,530system? Yeah, voting. Yes, it'llbe handy. Very handy. Yeah.117301:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,730Pfeiffer there's nothing like adame especially when it's Dame117401:15:35,730 --> 01:15:36,480Jennifer117501:15:52,260 --> 01:15:58,350that's still my second favorite.Well, maybe my favorite anime117601:15:58,350 --> 01:16:00,930had no agenda. I did that reallyearly.117701:16:02,250 --> 01:16:04,950Yeah, I remember I remember.Yeah. And I117801:16:04,980 --> 01:16:07,320every once in a while. It'llcome up in my recommendations.117901:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,730And I'm like, Okay, I'll watchthat one. It's cute. Yeah,118001:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,180anyway.118101:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,750Let me see Sam Sethi again 1000SATs Hi, chaps and Jennifer I118201:16:18,750 --> 01:16:20,910know you start about now myFriday night I have my118301:16:20,910 --> 01:16:24,780notification set in pod verse. Iseem to let go live or waiting118401:16:24,780 --> 01:16:27,600but where how can I see whatactual time you go live in the118501:16:27,600 --> 01:16:34,500apps well that's it there is ascheduled time that is that is118601:16:34,500 --> 01:16:36,720posted I guess it's notsurfacing.118701:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,290I guess pod verse doesn't Yeah,I guess it doesn't display that118801:16:40,290 --> 01:16:43,830I wonder if curio caster doesI'm going to be going right now.118901:16:43,830 --> 01:16:48,480Let me see me does curio castershow and I'm talking directly119001:16:49,020 --> 01:16:53,370because I know he's in the chatroom sorry. He will tell me if119101:16:53,370 --> 01:16:57,210curio caster shows the time ofthe upcoming Yeah, I119201:16:57,210 --> 01:17:01,500can't see that now because we'realready live. Okay engaged119301:17:01,500 --> 01:17:05,370stream stream engaged Let's rock1000 SATs from Lehman creations119401:17:05,370 --> 01:17:07,140Thank you very much.119501:17:08,580 --> 01:17:11,130says yes curio Castro doesdisplay the upcoming time.119601:17:12,930 --> 01:17:17,100Another 7777 from Pfeifferobligatory plug for the Sunday119701:17:17,100 --> 01:17:20,520morning to our folk hour on theno agenda streamed live Sunday119801:17:20,520 --> 01:17:25,170mornings at 9am. CentralStandard Time. Okay, these plugs119901:17:25,170 --> 01:17:31,110are very interesting. Let's seewe have another 1000 from sands120001:17:31,110 --> 01:17:36,000Sam Sethi and then 10,001 fromblueberry pod verse boosting for120101:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,680mobile fields so permissionlesstotally filled match. Congrats.120201:17:41,220 --> 01:17:44,910There you go. tilled it pimpledYeah.120301:17:44,970 --> 01:17:46,530Okay, that's a good that's agood phrase.120401:17:46,530 --> 01:17:53,130And thanks. Thanks to meet usfor the 20,069 SATs said pre pre120501:17:53,130 --> 01:18:00,480show and he just says what upnerds. And let's see 3200 Now120601:18:00,480 --> 01:18:03,060from Florida and slips per diemJennifer's request I switch to120701:18:03,060 --> 01:18:12,150no agendas category from comedyto news. 19 148 SATs from Brian120801:18:12,150 --> 01:18:16,110of London Hello Brian of London.He says Let me tell you about120901:18:16,110 --> 01:18:22,110coin voting. He has a little sonemoji with the sunglasses121001:18:22,110 --> 01:18:26,250because of course that meansthat we have to do this in hive.121101:18:28,410 --> 01:18:31,230Right Of course. No, no, it'snot gonna happen.121201:18:33,330 --> 01:18:35,070Of course popping seems reallycool.121301:18:35,070 --> 01:18:38,760I was gonna say any cool appfrom anything I don't care as121401:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,070long as it's integrating whatwe're doing is great.121501:18:41,160 --> 01:18:46,290Absolutely. It's great. Yeah,pod ping is is beyond this. It's121601:18:46,290 --> 01:18:50,430incredible sometimes to readthese comments which are121701:18:50,430 --> 01:18:55,800completely egged on by Brian ofLondon himself. Of course. You121801:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,710know people gonna like puttingon this podcast that to put121901:18:58,710 --> 01:19:01,290always they're building adatabase with hive that she122001:19:01,290 --> 01:19:06,690called man. Like cheese wheezepeople. Like there was a whole122101:19:06,690 --> 01:19:10,860thread Roy forwarded me today.The Ellen URL guys are all like,122201:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,510well, how come we don't havevalue for value with ln URL? Oh,122301:19:15,510 --> 01:19:21,060really? Yeah. And, and Bumi wasin the thread from Alby and Roy122401:19:21,060 --> 01:19:25,170and everyone's like, well, youknow, it would work but you122501:19:25,170 --> 01:19:28,350know, we're doing up to 10splits. Now. It's, yeah, but the122601:19:28,380 --> 01:19:30,870Ellen URL, you know, it's justone of those really emotional122701:19:30,870 --> 01:19:35,130conversations. And I have tosay, Roy, and Boomi they talked122801:19:35,130 --> 01:19:40,350him off and he's like, Okay, I'mgonna go learn key send those122901:19:40,350 --> 01:19:42,720things sometimes, you know,people get real passionate about123001:19:42,750 --> 01:19:45,780technology, especially becauseEllen URL has been around it's123101:19:45,810 --> 01:19:49,890very, for enlightening standardsand ancient protocol. And123201:19:49,890 --> 01:19:53,400they've gone really far withElon bits and, and all this123301:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,490stuff is just, there are somesignificant differences to it123401:19:56,490 --> 01:19:58,020for us. Elon, URL123501:19:58,020 --> 01:20:02,580author, I mean, all these edthat Do the same thing. It's the123601:20:02,580 --> 01:20:05,850same thing, though. It's alwaysthe same thing. Go build123701:20:05,850 --> 01:20:06,480something.123801:20:06,540 --> 01:20:08,820Yes, please build it exactly.Don't123901:20:08,820 --> 01:20:11,850don't complain about not don'tcomplain about things not124001:20:11,850 --> 01:20:16,740existing, just make it exist.That's, that's, that's still the124101:20:16,740 --> 01:20:19,260age old problem with peopledon't not understanding open124201:20:19,260 --> 01:20:22,770source is that it's not aboutasking for things. It's about124301:20:22,770 --> 01:20:27,150making the thing, right. I mean,that's what that's the124401:20:27,150 --> 01:20:28,170hackathon. Well, but124501:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,710you know, what I've noticed.And, and you notice, it's124601:20:31,740 --> 01:20:35,190extremely obvious on theconsumer side, but also, I124701:20:35,190 --> 01:20:38,010think, to some degree on thedeveloper side, you know, we've124801:20:38,010 --> 01:20:43,470been so spoiled with SiliconValley companies being funded124901:20:43,470 --> 01:20:49,320with very cheap money, which isover with all kinds of apps and125001:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,610things that pop up and are free,and it's all expected to work125101:20:53,610 --> 01:20:56,700immediately. And, you know, I'mnot even gonna let this morning,125201:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,080you know, at this pace of shock,like, holy crap, what's cool,125301:21:01,290 --> 01:21:04,650every time I want to do this, itfreezes. And I was just, I was125401:21:04,650 --> 01:21:06,930just letting it go. Because, youknow, and I wasn't trying to be125501:21:06,930 --> 01:21:10,230defensive, but I immediately Igo into defensive mode, like,125601:21:10,620 --> 01:21:15,450well, this is like two guys orone guy, and you know, yeah, but125701:21:15,450 --> 01:21:20,490you, IT people, it's the samewith I don't understand two125801:21:20,490 --> 01:21:23,610point I understand value for Idon't get it, you know, and125901:21:23,610 --> 01:21:28,320people are not they're used toit being spoon fed, stuck in126001:21:28,320 --> 01:21:34,530their face completely managed,completely helped. You know, and126101:21:34,530 --> 01:21:38,940developers, I think, sometimesalso have this idea of like,126201:21:38,940 --> 01:21:42,240well, listen, index, guys, whydon't you do Alan URL just126301:21:42,270 --> 01:21:46,800implemented? You know, notknowing at all, you know, at all126401:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,650what we're about, or, you know,or how this works, or what we're126501:21:49,650 --> 01:21:54,720trying to accomplish? It's themodern age of technology, people126601:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,410have been extremely spoiled.And, you know, it's like, Ah,126701:21:58,410 --> 01:22:02,940this, like, people upgrade theirphones every year. Right?126801:22:02,970 --> 01:22:06,210Kidding me. So, well,126901:22:06,300 --> 01:22:09,960we got an iPhone in the mail. Itwas just like an anonymous gift.127001:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,050So people send me stuff all thetime.127101:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,140Where do I get in on that? Like,how do I get an action? What?127201:22:16,170 --> 01:22:19,770Well, okay, making cartoons.Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah.127301:22:20,280 --> 01:22:25,770You got to start a podcastwithout me. Now, it's like Tina127401:22:25,770 --> 01:22:29,220and I, we get all kinds of coolstuff. cutting boards, bottles127501:22:29,220 --> 01:22:34,050of wine, you name it. Yeah,that's, I mean, we really do the127601:22:34,050 --> 01:22:35,130show for the alcohol,127701:22:35,639 --> 01:22:37,259as well as the fever five thatway.127801:22:37,349 --> 01:22:41,759Yeah. Cutting Board, shall we?Thanks for more of our value for127901:22:41,759 --> 01:22:46,979value donors, Dave. And I wouldlike to say I'm so delighted to128001:22:46,979 --> 01:22:53,219hear the leading podcastingpodcasts, all soaking in value128101:22:53,219 --> 01:23:03,119for value. I hear new media showpod land, pod news. Doing128201:23:03,119 --> 01:23:08,039booster gram segments. You know,I love it. That's cool. Oh,128301:23:08,039 --> 01:23:11,129yeah. Well, and you know, andthe money's getting better.128401:23:12,149 --> 01:23:15,299People are understanding higheramounts, you know, and that's128501:23:15,299 --> 01:23:18,629why we do have some cut offs.Because of course, there's a lot128601:23:18,629 --> 01:23:23,669of people do a lot of commentsfor low sat numbers on on128701:23:23,669 --> 01:23:28,139fountain. But it's kind of workit it's interesting, because I128801:23:28,139 --> 01:23:31,379hear pod land, you know, I'llhear James do not pod on pod128901:23:31,379 --> 01:23:34,829news. And it sounds like he'sjust getting you know, 10 SATs,129001:23:34,859 --> 01:23:38,15920 SATs at SATs where peopleleaving comments on a daily129101:23:38,159 --> 01:23:42,959episode. And he's not reallypitching it's short show. So I129201:23:42,959 --> 01:23:45,899understand he's not reallypitching value for value.129301:23:47,069 --> 01:23:51,449Whereas it pod lands I think thenumbers are much higher. There129401:23:51,449 --> 01:23:54,149any any I heard him I caught himactually saying, you know, if129501:23:54,149 --> 01:23:57,329you get some value from thisshow, like wow, okay. There we129601:23:57,329 --> 01:23:58,109go. Yeah.129701:23:58,590 --> 01:24:03,840Mindset, no answer. Yeah. Yeah,we on that. Just real quick129801:24:03,840 --> 01:24:08,940before we do the donations onthat thing. You know, about the,129901:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,770you know, just about the appsand about the, you know, we had130001:24:13,770 --> 01:24:17,700a really good discussion withPocket Casts that people from130101:24:17,700 --> 01:24:18,510Pocket Casts.130201:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,620Yes. First automatic and thenPocket Cast. Yes, we did. And130301:24:22,650 --> 01:24:26,430early in the week, and we, youknow, we, they were gracious130401:24:26,430 --> 01:24:31,440enough to, to have a zoom callwith us, and we pitched pitched130501:24:31,440 --> 01:24:32,610all the podcasts and130601:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,780I'll tell you the pitch. Wewould like you to declare the130701:24:36,780 --> 01:24:39,900namespace, the podcast namespaceand every single product you130801:24:39,900 --> 01:24:45,870have including Pocket CastsWordPress, everything, and they130901:24:45,870 --> 01:24:49,410win and literally they wentwell, that sounds like a good131001:24:49,410 --> 01:24:58,560idea. So anyway, we're we'rewaiting. This is a Todd Cochran131101:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,840moment we're waiting just to getsome time. information on them,131201:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,120we can just talk about a couplethings because it was very131301:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,820informal. We just don't want toviolate any trust at this point.131401:25:05,820 --> 01:25:10,500But we're super pleased. As youknow, I've known Matt for a long131501:25:10,500 --> 01:25:15,180time. But he really did build acompany with people who give a131601:25:15,180 --> 01:25:18,720shit. And they really care aboutopen source, they care about131701:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,350open systems. That's what theydo, obviously.131801:25:23,790 --> 01:25:27,720I will say confidently that,that Pocket Casts is in131901:25:27,720 --> 01:25:32,190fantastic hands with being bigand automatic. Yeah. And I can't132001:25:32,190 --> 01:25:35,370think of a I can't think of abetter place for them to have132101:25:35,370 --> 01:25:39,750landed than this grid in May.Yeah. Good, good, good things132201:25:39,750 --> 01:25:43,740are gonna come out of this. Imean, we can, one thing I can132301:25:43,740 --> 01:25:47,520say about our talk with them isthat they, they already knew132401:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,490about this, I mean, or excuse meon the Pocket Casts, they they132501:25:50,490 --> 01:25:55,920already knew about podcasting2.0 and had plans around it. It132601:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,380just, they, they had a lot, youknow, the automatic132701:25:58,380 --> 01:26:01,080transmissions been big andstuff. So they gotta get through132801:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,600some stuff. But they, theyalready knew about the stuff.132901:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,160And it was a really helpful zoomcall to be able to just dig in133001:26:08,340 --> 01:26:11,310to the details, because they,they knew generally about133101:26:11,310 --> 01:26:13,530everything, but they didn't knowa lot of the details. And we saw133201:26:13,530 --> 01:26:16,740we did some deep dives on, onthe different tags and the way133301:26:16,740 --> 01:26:20,400things work and stuff and reallyjust got to talk, you know,133401:26:20,670 --> 01:26:24,210and but what I liked the mostabout it is they really saw I133501:26:24,210 --> 01:26:28,230mean, it was a no brainer forthem that like, well, so people133601:26:28,230 --> 01:26:31,440are publishing with these, withthis extra data and these133701:26:31,440 --> 01:26:35,580features. Yes. Well, why whywouldn't we that sounds like133801:26:35,580 --> 01:26:36,900that's stupid not to.133901:26:37,710 --> 01:26:41,430Yeah, I don't think peoplerealize that how many phase134001:26:41,430 --> 01:26:44,130there are out there that declarethe POC test namespace? It's,134101:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,190it's, you know, 400,000 plus atthis point, yeah, that's a134201:26:47,190 --> 01:26:52,380wow, did you did you ever have achance to check Dave and see of134301:26:52,380 --> 01:26:58,380those 400,000? How many are inthe 90 Day Count of updates? Not134401:26:58,380 --> 01:27:02,850done that? That would besomething cool to see to see if,134501:27:03,090 --> 01:27:07,230if 2.0 feeds are updated morefrequently? Or what percentage134601:27:07,230 --> 01:27:09,990they are, that number may bevery small, I don't know. But134701:27:10,020 --> 01:27:13,170the point is, when you havepeople creating content,134801:27:14,340 --> 01:27:19,770possible 140,000, or whatever itis that at Buzzsprout. Another134901:27:19,770 --> 01:27:23,610100,000 rss.com, you know,200,000, I have no idea. The135001:27:23,610 --> 01:27:27,930hundreds of 1000s can put in allkinds of tags a lot of these135101:27:27,930 --> 01:27:32,220guys have and people are doingit. This is why I was so135201:27:32,220 --> 01:27:35,070confident to say within a yearApple will have implemented one135301:27:35,070 --> 01:27:43,260or multiple namespace tags. Andthe reason why is if they don't135401:27:43,260 --> 01:27:46,320they're not business people,then that they have no business.135501:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,750And if Apple knows anything,they know how to run a business.135601:27:49,650 --> 01:27:53,640It's just it makes me insane. Imean, if everyone is going to135701:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,450adopt this, everyone will exceptmaybe Spotify, they may not. But135801:27:58,290 --> 01:28:00,690if you want a competitiveadvantage when the creators are135901:28:00,690 --> 01:28:05,190making it, they're putting it inthere that you go.136001:28:05,460 --> 01:28:07,830Listen to you, Girl Friday,she'll tell you what's right.136101:28:08,970 --> 01:28:12,780Yeah, I would love to go back toPocket Casts as my daily driver136201:28:12,810 --> 01:28:14,460used to be I love that user.136301:28:14,580 --> 01:28:17,790Oh, why did you drop it? Becauseof 2.0 features? Yeah,136401:28:17,790 --> 01:28:20,520cuz I wanted to play around withSharePoint. I wanted to support136501:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,270the project. And so I you know,and I move around, but, but I136601:28:24,270 --> 01:28:27,870still have it installed on allmy devices. I still love it. I.136701:28:28,650 --> 01:28:30,360So that's cool. I can't wait tohear more.136801:28:30,660 --> 01:28:33,060What do you love about it?Because that would help136901:28:33,570 --> 01:28:35,760developers listen to the show.And they need to know these137001:28:35,760 --> 01:28:36,780things. Okay, the,137101:28:37,050 --> 01:28:40,950the original reason that Isubscribed, I paid for a137201:28:40,950 --> 01:28:46,260subscription was that it acrossany device, I was synced up. So137301:28:46,260 --> 01:28:49,860if I start listening to noagenda on my phone, and then I137401:28:49,890 --> 01:28:55,890come to my PC, and then I golater on my iPad, they that app,137501:28:55,920 --> 01:29:02,640new word that I was, yep. WhichI loved it, you have lots of137601:29:02,640 --> 01:29:08,730options per podcast options. Sothere are certain ones that I137701:29:08,730 --> 01:29:11,760want to be alerted. There arecertain ones that I want to137801:29:11,790 --> 01:29:15,540automatically download and addto the queue. So they have this137901:29:15,540 --> 01:29:19,500really nice queue that you canestablish and you can say I want138001:29:19,500 --> 01:29:21,480to put this at the beginning ofthe queue or the end of the138101:29:21,480 --> 01:29:29,310queue. I love that. Yeah, I am aI am a huge, huge fan of Pocket138201:29:29,310 --> 01:29:31,590Casts and every once awhile Istill dip my toe in because I'm138301:29:31,590 --> 01:29:32,370like, oh,138401:29:33,210 --> 01:29:34,440there's no shame in that game.138501:29:36,780 --> 01:29:41,760And and they just make it reallyeasy to subscribe to, you know,138601:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,520if you have the RSS feed. It'slike as long as you know how to138701:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,750find that. It's easy because Ias a test part, one of the first138801:29:48,750 --> 01:29:52,530things I did when I went on noagenda tube was I put the RSS138901:29:52,530 --> 01:29:56,790feed into Pocket Casts and saidDo they support video? Sure139001:29:56,790 --> 01:30:00,240enough, it worked. I just put itin the Yeah, so they They've139101:30:00,240 --> 01:30:04,860been supporting video for awhile, because I did that. It's139201:30:04,860 --> 01:30:12,210been over two years. Yeah. SoI'm a huge, huge podcast fan. So139301:30:12,570 --> 01:30:13,320that's exciting.139401:30:13,859 --> 01:30:16,529Oh, good. Well, we're excited.Hopefully they are listening to139501:30:16,529 --> 01:30:20,009the show, and they will hearfervently desire there to be.139601:30:21,090 --> 01:30:25,080Very, very interesting, though,the reasons that you were drawn139701:30:25,080 --> 01:30:25,470to it.139801:30:26,370 --> 01:30:30,450Yeah, that kind of stuff.Hearing hearing listeners139901:30:30,450 --> 01:30:35,610describe why they like certainapps that is so valuable,140001:30:35,730 --> 01:30:39,780because it's not, it's one thingto get a request for something140101:30:39,810 --> 01:30:44,370from from somebody, and it says,Hey, can you please support? Can140201:30:44,370 --> 01:30:48,510you please support an X feature?It's another thing to hear a140301:30:48,510 --> 01:30:52,830sort of, sort of case studywhere you can listen to a user140401:30:52,830 --> 01:30:56,940who loves an app describeexactly why they love the app,140501:30:57,150 --> 01:31:00,300because then you may not want toreplicate that that may not be140601:31:00,300 --> 01:31:03,540the identity that you're lookingfor in your app. But you can,140701:31:03,930 --> 01:31:07,410you can understand the thinkingthere and say, Okay, I may be140801:31:07,410 --> 01:31:12,240able to expect to take this andadapt my app to do something140901:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,990like this, that gives that givesthe same feeling but for my141001:31:16,110 --> 01:31:19,800audience in the way I want to dothings and then you can expand141101:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,290your user base that way I thinkI think it's valuable, very141201:31:22,290 --> 01:31:26,910valuable. We're gonna do somesome donations booster grants.141301:31:26,910 --> 01:31:27,360Yes.141401:31:27,750 --> 01:31:30,720And thank you in advanceeverybody who pre boosted and of141501:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,050course, you can go to podcastindex.org bottom of the page.141601:31:34,170 --> 01:31:37,800There's a big red button donatebutton you can still reach us141701:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,860with your Fiat front coupons.Almost no one does anymore. We141801:31:40,860 --> 01:31:46,020do appreciate those monthlies.So we really lucked out really141901:31:46,020 --> 01:31:48,120appreciate the moment we blewout the monthlies.142001:31:48,300 --> 01:31:49,770No, no, no, the142101:31:50,460 --> 01:31:53,910the Pay Pal is not used anymore.Everyone's just boosting right142201:31:54,089 --> 01:31:57,269now. This was a strong Pay Palweek. Oh, okay.142301:31:57,270 --> 01:31:58,800What happened? All right. We142401:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,440hit we hit it hard. I mean, Idon't know what the call went142501:32:01,440 --> 01:32:04,410out. Evidently. And I don'tthink it was us. Maybe draft put142601:32:04,410 --> 01:32:05,820something in the chaptersbecause142701:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,540we got we got some help. Okay.All right. All right.142801:32:11,010 --> 01:32:15,360The route I mean, right off thetop row voice blueberry142901:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,490podcasting says $250143001:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,590Wow, oh, my143101:32:20,370 --> 01:32:25,110Sakala 20 is blades on theImpala. Nice. Thank143201:32:25,110 --> 01:32:26,760you. Very,143301:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,120thank you for what you weredoing the blueberry team. Oh,143401:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,610thank you, blueberry team. Thankyou, blueberry team. They're143501:32:32,610 --> 01:32:33,540a handsome team.143601:32:33,840 --> 01:32:41,850They are the beautiful team.Richard, he wakes me up, this is143701:32:41,850 --> 01:32:49,110anonymous is nice as soon as$200. And he says it's been a143801:32:49,110 --> 01:32:52,470while. So I will send via oldstyle of transfer, still have143901:32:52,470 --> 01:32:56,370not been able to, I still havenot been able to understand how144001:32:56,370 --> 01:32:58,740I'm going to keep track of theboost transactions for the IRS144101:32:58,740 --> 01:33:02,070effectively just helping outanonymously, okay, so that's not144201:33:02,070 --> 01:33:06,270something you have to worryabout. For sending now. For144301:33:06,270 --> 01:33:11,370sending when you donate when youwhen you give away SAS you144401:33:11,370 --> 01:33:15,390don't, that is not somethingthat you have to then convert to144501:33:15,390 --> 01:33:19,200monetary value it convert to USdollar value at the moment, and144601:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,400then account for that as incomeon your taxes. You are gifting144701:33:23,910 --> 01:33:28,320you're gifting that asset toanother person. And so it's it's144801:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,920it's a non transaction on yourpoint on your part. The144901:33:31,950 --> 01:33:37,200receiving party has to countthat as income at the value at145001:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,560that time. Right? Yes. So youdon't have to go through145101:33:40,560 --> 01:33:40,860anything.145201:33:41,009 --> 01:33:44,399And also it's not a cheap it'snot charitable, therefore not145301:33:44,399 --> 01:33:48,119tax deductible in case that waswhat you were saying. Yes, or no145401:33:48,119 --> 01:33:52,799charity dammit. We're goingbroke in a capitalist way. I was145501:33:52,799 --> 01:33:57,629gonna say profit but no, no,we'd like profit. We just don't145601:33:57,629 --> 01:33:59,909expect it. It's a difference.145701:34:00,540 --> 01:34:05,280Down the road. It's a mindset.It's a mindset. Thank you very145801:34:05,280 --> 01:34:12,120much evolving dollars. Got $100from AD Ryan. Hey, radio Inc.145901:34:12,180 --> 01:34:15,240Oh, nice. Thank you, Ed. Yeah,and he says Save the chickens146001:34:24,990 --> 01:34:30,030the The chickens are stillstrong. They were still too they146101:34:30,030 --> 01:34:32,640were too strong in the back ofin the backyard when I get here.146201:34:32,640 --> 01:34:39,930So we're still good. $100 fromNew Media Productions. And it146301:34:39,930 --> 01:34:45,300says Hey, guys, Todd Cochranhere. No podcasting. Oh.146401:34:48,540 --> 01:34:51,480Wow. Professionally andprivately. Thank you, man.146501:34:51,930 --> 01:34:54,870This makes me think that thismakes me think that Todd doesn't146601:34:54,870 --> 01:35:01,050know that the blueberry teamdonated $250 They just they146701:35:01,050 --> 01:35:03,480basically went, went into hiswallet when he wasn't looking.146801:35:05,460 --> 01:35:07,800Dollars ads not looking. I gotan idea.146901:35:09,420 --> 01:35:13,470He showed up to the office andsaid, Hey guys, I donated $100147001:35:13,470 --> 01:35:18,300to podcasting. 2.0 And they'relike, oh, oh, okay.147101:35:21,330 --> 01:35:25,800It's so appreciated. I mean,from Todd but also from his147201:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,930team. That's, that's reallynice. I like that. I mean,147301:35:27,930 --> 01:35:30,060that's how it's supposed towork. This is how value for147401:35:30,060 --> 01:35:33,600value works. We come up withshit, we host it and then they147501:35:33,600 --> 01:35:34,590have to do all the work.147601:35:36,270 --> 01:35:39,270As a security professionalthough, I would I do have to147701:35:39,270 --> 01:35:41,520recommend that Todd change hisPay Pal password because his147801:35:41,520 --> 01:35:48,510name is evidently is Brian $50from our buddy Dave Jackson at147901:35:48,510 --> 01:35:49,680the School of podcasting. Hey,148001:35:49,680 --> 01:35:54,360Dave Jackson, thank you so much.Also, you know, he's, he's in148101:35:54,570 --> 01:35:59,010round two, podcasting. 1.0 Hetaught 10s if not hundreds of148201:35:59,010 --> 01:36:02,1301000s of people how to podcast.He's back doing it with148301:36:02,130 --> 01:36:03,420podcasting. 2.0148401:36:03,750 --> 01:36:08,430Throwing out videos. Good. Good,fun discussion the other night148501:36:08,430 --> 01:36:12,390with the podcasting power.Podcasting Power Hour.148601:36:12,540 --> 01:36:17,340Oh, yeah, I checked into that.That was kind of interesting.148701:36:18,150 --> 01:36:20,400I don't like the format. I hateTwitter spaces. No,148801:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,450I mean, either I what I think isso funny is that you have people148901:36:24,450 --> 01:36:28,170who are listeners and then andthey just are they get to ask a149001:36:28,170 --> 01:36:32,370question and then just go on forhours and hours about themselves149101:36:32,400 --> 01:36:37,950is like I don't kind of likethat format that much is boring.149201:36:37,980 --> 01:36:41,310Yeah. Especially the guy islike, why can talk I can no149301:36:41,310 --> 01:36:43,320problem talking. You see, I justneed to be able to hit one149401:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,300button on my phone and thatbutton that just kind of did the149501:36:45,300 --> 01:36:48,030podcast got to be because Ithat's what I need. I just could149601:36:48,030 --> 01:36:50,400I bet I could tell you I cantalk for hours and hours. That's149701:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,030not the problem.149801:36:51,870 --> 01:36:54,810Oh, that was like, Yes, Ibelieve that. Yeah, that is the149901:36:54,810 --> 01:36:59,520problem. Actually No shit. Butthat yeah, that was that was150001:36:59,550 --> 01:37:01,380that was interesting. Iappreciate them asking me on and150101:37:01,380 --> 01:37:06,060fun, fun questions. Good. Goodchance to explain some value for150201:37:06,060 --> 01:37:06,360value.150301:37:06,540 --> 01:37:10,920You're always a pleasant voiceto listen to, in an interview.150401:37:10,980 --> 01:37:14,430Appreciate that. Yeah, it doeshave a little bit of NPR vibe to150501:37:14,430 --> 01:37:15,660it, but in a good way. Does150601:37:15,660 --> 01:37:17,820it kind of Oh, yeah. No, no, but150701:37:17,820 --> 01:37:22,560in like a smoky cigar kind ofgreen visor kind of way. So it's150801:37:22,560 --> 01:37:27,000like, imagine you dim the lightsand there's one naked ball now a150901:37:27,000 --> 01:37:31,380desk lamp with one of thoseflexible necks. And that Dave's151001:37:31,380 --> 01:37:34,170got his green visor on his infront of his monitor. And he's151101:37:35,820 --> 01:37:37,920like, Well, let me tell youabout the namespace.151201:37:38,430 --> 01:37:43,560We've got a we've got a donationfrom there it is listed in Berg.151301:37:43,680 --> 01:37:49,710OYSTEIN bariga OYSTEIN bariga.$49.99 Okay.151401:37:49,710 --> 01:37:51,120It's not working for me. Okay.151501:37:51,150 --> 01:37:57,450All right. Always, always done.Bear sad. Boy, same bear. This151601:37:57,450 --> 01:38:04,530time better? I think so. Okay.$49.99 Thank you. And the note151701:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,330is donation.151801:38:07,500 --> 01:38:10,320And our reply is thanks. It'sthank you151901:38:12,540 --> 01:38:14,550we got some boosts Yeah.152001:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,400Let's get some let's get ourbluestone152101:38:17,850 --> 01:38:22,470blueberry 1776 throughfountaining says snip first.152201:38:22,740 --> 01:38:24,030Okay, what that means I152301:38:24,030 --> 01:38:26,250don't know. Got it for152401:38:26,970 --> 01:38:33,390lavish synth 9999 and he threwfountain needs to survival cash152501:38:34,230 --> 01:38:39,300What do I need gosh you're stillnot following that. Mitch will152601:38:39,300 --> 01:38:44,190see as a test boost is a verylong complicated test boost152701:38:45,780 --> 01:38:49,800meanest meet us excuse me, said3333 through fat and he says152801:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,080boost for humanity152901:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,460Roy scheinfeld153001:39:03,300 --> 01:39:07,890Roy is back now he he startedtexting me very angry.153101:39:08,190 --> 01:39:10,020He did he was he was153201:39:10,770 --> 01:39:14,100always boost. I always boostit's on day. This is all on153301:39:14,100 --> 01:39:17,730Dave. I'm gonna read it to you.I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna153401:39:17,730 --> 01:39:18,630read it verbatim.153501:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,110He was not angry in his textedme.153601:39:22,770 --> 01:39:27,930He says I can beat the Israeliaccent. Yes, I doubt him. I can153701:39:27,930 --> 01:39:32,040be distracted but I will neverforget to boost if you don't see153801:39:32,040 --> 01:39:37,080my boost. It's on Dave. I said Isent you the boost to check.153901:39:37,470 --> 01:39:40,140This is not Israeli but this isFrench.154001:39:42,150 --> 01:39:47,760I don't know what that was isyeah, that's pay Panthers. My154101:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,470actual Hebrew sounds better thanthat.154201:39:49,800 --> 01:39:54,540Yes, it does. I've witnessedyour Hebrew it's actually quite154301:39:54,540 --> 01:39:54,960compelling154401:39:56,220 --> 01:39:59,280for a non for non Hebrew speakerand that's right.154501:40:00,000 --> 01:40:09,24054,321 SAS from Roy to read it.Okay, he says Check out the new154601:40:09,240 --> 01:40:13,200podcast features in breeze nextmy top podcasts and different154701:40:13,200 --> 01:40:14,100layouts.154801:40:14,190 --> 01:40:18,780Yeah, you can do tiled layout ofall the I love that I love the154901:40:18,780 --> 01:40:22,440tiled layout of all the imagesto cover art because no agenda155001:40:22,440 --> 01:40:26,400always changes it's alwayssomething different I love that155101:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,010tile as well and also theimprove something with the155201:40:29,010 --> 01:40:34,200syncing to the graph much fasteryou know sometimes Yeah, with155301:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,630Breeze you know, you'd you'dstart playing and it wouldn't be155401:40:36,630 --> 01:40:39,990paying anything like what'sgoing on you do you know, go to155501:40:39,990 --> 01:40:41,700a menu developer get info155601:40:42,420 --> 01:40:44,670in your phone start heating up.Oh,155701:40:45,060 --> 01:40:51,150that's gonna that's my bug getshot. I know. I'm finally155801:40:51,150 --> 01:40:56,100sentenced. Let's just see. Thankyou, Roy.155901:40:56,820 --> 01:40:59,490And I also have a make goodbecause Roy did booths last156001:40:59,490 --> 01:41:04,890week. 54 321. I have yet todecode the note though. Because156101:41:04,890 --> 01:41:08,400I ran out of time. So I havethere will be make good two.156201:41:08,610 --> 01:41:11,280There'll be double double makegood next week when I would156301:41:11,280 --> 01:41:12,330decode his note No.156401:41:12,840 --> 01:41:13,710extra boost then.156501:41:17,580 --> 01:41:23,400I love you Reuters and it isonly 2500 SATs from Mike Dale156601:41:23,670 --> 01:41:24,990and he says go podcasting.156701:41:25,020 --> 01:41:27,300Yo Yo Yo yo yo go podcast.156801:41:31,500 --> 01:41:35,520Ga Orwell's in his one. Essay1111 through fountain. He says156901:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,010Do you guys know how manypodcasts get on board to podcast157001:41:38,010 --> 01:41:43,260and to point out in a month? Youknow,157101:41:43,860 --> 01:41:49,650can I stop for one second? Thereis a delivery of beef. I just157201:41:49,650 --> 01:41:50,160want to grab157301:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,460that. And go for it. From Texasslim.157401:41:53,850 --> 01:41:58,290It is from KFC cattle. Yeah,nice. Yeah. But here's the157501:41:58,290 --> 01:42:04,050conundrum. UPS was deliveringtwo things today. One is the157601:42:04,050 --> 01:42:08,220beef box. The other is abirthday present that Tina157701:42:08,220 --> 01:42:12,450ordered for me. And she said Youabsolutely cannot look at the157801:42:12,450 --> 01:42:16,080box. Because when you see thebox, you'll know what it is. And157901:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,530it won't be a surprise. And soof course you see the bunks158001:42:19,980 --> 01:42:25,410well, so I saw the guy walk byup to the front of the door and158101:42:25,410 --> 01:42:30,570Phoebe heard him too. And, andso I went without my glasses,158201:42:30,600 --> 01:42:34,620which I promised her. I peekedthrough not the window itself,158301:42:34,620 --> 01:42:37,890but through the shade. And I cansee there's all kinds of boxes158401:42:37,890 --> 01:42:40,320so I can't pick it up. I'm gonnahave to wait until she comes158501:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,710home. I'm sure. I'm sure anotherI'm sure another two and a half158601:42:43,710 --> 01:42:47,640hours won't ruin the beef. It'snot indirect. It's pretty it's158701:42:47,640 --> 01:42:53,370not direct sunlight so noproblem. They look everyone's158801:42:53,370 --> 01:42:57,330like what's in the box. Come on.Come on. No, no, no, no lie. I158901:42:57,330 --> 01:43:01,770don't lie open the box. I'm notgoing to do it. Spell it not159001:43:01,770 --> 01:43:05,280going to do it at all. In fact,I'm gonna text my wife right159101:43:05,280 --> 01:43:05,730now.159201:43:08,400 --> 01:43:13,050These two grand 1330 C 13 337.From the mere mortals podcast159301:43:13,500 --> 01:43:17,520through fountain in. Karen saysDave putting on a clinic Jones.159401:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,440That's right. This was a coldcall me in high school.159501:43:20,460 --> 01:43:21,720Not a clinic. Really.159601:43:21,780 --> 01:43:23,970You know, that's what I saidlast week. I said I'm going to159701:43:23,970 --> 01:43:24,960put on a clinic you159801:43:25,890 --> 01:43:28,440Ah yes, yes, yes. Yes.159901:43:29,070 --> 01:43:36,36011 111 from forged fo very gamername. Dismissed. You must be a160001:43:36,360 --> 01:43:40,920gamer. He or she throughfountain says I've got nothing160101:43:40,920 --> 01:43:50,910to say. All right. Well, thanksSatoshi stream 55 5209. He, he160201:43:50,910 --> 01:43:53,910they have Satoshi stream says Ilike podcast index.160301:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,690We'd like you to thank you. We'dlike you Satoshi St.160401:43:58,350 --> 01:44:02,460Jean Everett 3333 throughfountain and he just says boost160501:44:02,460 --> 01:44:05,970with a couple of beers. Oops.Sorry160601:44:10,770 --> 01:44:11,700I don't know what happened.160701:44:13,320 --> 01:44:14,220Let me try this160801:44:21,030 --> 01:44:25,080blaming creations. Everybody.Andy sent us 1000 Sastre caster160901:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,690Matic says you didn't hurt myfeelings. Dave. I said you could161001:44:27,690 --> 01:44:31,950leave it it wasn't a huge deal.Okay. Thank you, Andy. I161101:44:31,950 --> 01:44:36,120appreciate that. I sent another1000 sets. Thank you, Andy.161201:44:36,120 --> 01:44:41,460Appreciate it. Anonymous sent3333 through pod verse and says,161301:44:41,790 --> 01:44:45,330Oh, this must free from the podverse team. Maybe Mitch says pod161401:44:45,330 --> 01:44:47,700verse mobile V for V is live inF droid.161501:44:48,059 --> 01:44:52,739Yes, yes. Yes, it is. I'm reallydigging it works Fanta except161601:44:52,739 --> 01:44:57,539for the streaming stats perminute. It's responsive. It's I161701:44:57,539 --> 01:45:01,949love that it comes to F droidSince I'm running graphing now161801:45:01,949 --> 01:45:02,429it's cool161901:45:03,300 --> 01:45:07,0801000 stats from Chad Pharaoh andChad says test boost from pod162001:45:07,080 --> 01:45:12,480verse on F Droid and success itworked. Auburn Citadel sent 49162101:45:12,480 --> 01:45:16,680for 90 through fountain and hesays Dame Jennifer boost please162201:45:17,250 --> 01:45:17,580do162301:45:18,510 --> 01:45:20,100we have a gym Jennifer boost?162401:45:20,310 --> 01:45:23,700I have here's your cue to boostyou know you want to me that's162501:45:23,700 --> 01:45:24,330what it is.162601:45:27,330 --> 01:45:31,260Here's your boost you know youwant to162701:45:31,950 --> 01:45:33,540that's what everybody wants162801:45:36,570 --> 01:45:41,0104242 from pirate Hodel thefountain he says plus one for162901:45:41,010 --> 01:45:41,790Team Nano.163001:45:43,380 --> 01:45:45,390No Emacs, Emacs.163101:45:45,420 --> 01:45:51,720No, no, that's crap. So when Isay Nano, I actually am using163201:45:51,720 --> 01:45:56,430nano but when I when I run it,what I type is Pico.163301:45:57,480 --> 01:46:00,960God that's the word pico pico no163401:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,480now is an alias do163501:46:03,480 --> 01:46:07,740you use do you use pine pie so163601:46:08,070 --> 01:46:12,090you've never used pine no pinethe email client163701:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,900have never used pine I've usedmud I've never use pine163801:46:15,930 --> 01:46:20,610you're much my go to but pine Ithink pine specifically comes163901:46:20,610 --> 01:46:24,150with the PICO editor by defaultI think164001:46:25,380 --> 01:46:32,250I will make standard and I'll dothis till the day I die. Is pico164101:46:32,490 --> 01:46:38,430dash W or no for no word wraplike that. It's just it is164201:46:38,430 --> 01:46:41,310ingrained in my finger musclesthat that's that's all I can do.164301:46:41,970 --> 01:46:44,670Whereas I always starteverything up with Word Wrap164401:46:45,510 --> 01:46:51,210with Word Wrap yeah I do yeah.Well wasn't pine was pine not164501:46:51,210 --> 01:46:53,580email was was pine messing it164601:46:53,580 --> 01:46:57,180up. That said pine comes withPico. I guess it is it may be as164701:46:57,180 --> 01:46:59,970the editor for for even for pineemail.164801:47:00,990 --> 01:47:05,010Yes What I thought but Pfeiffersays pine is not email. I164901:47:05,010 --> 01:47:10,320thought pine was email. feeldumb now?165001:47:11,099 --> 01:47:12,539I don't know. Well,165101:47:12,630 --> 01:47:13,770it's not that important.165201:47:15,420 --> 01:47:16,200Stop show.165301:47:16,230 --> 01:47:18,960No, don't stop. Please don'tstop the show. Whatever.165401:47:18,990 --> 01:47:22,26010,000 says from River Citymystery through faculty says165501:47:22,260 --> 01:47:25,440thank you for all you do for thepodcasting community. Appreciate165601:47:25,440 --> 01:47:27,690your efforts to ensure thatpodcasting remains a platform165701:47:27,690 --> 01:47:33,780for free speech. Matt digue erde da, de IG. I'm gonna say dig165801:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,140that deep river city mysteryRiver City. mystery.com. All165901:47:37,140 --> 01:47:42,300right. Thank you, Matt.Appreciate it. 3333 for starship166001:47:42,300 --> 01:47:46,650Alvis fountain and he says can'twait for LIVE TAG functionality166101:47:46,650 --> 01:47:48,750and fountain mousse to do Bucha166201:47:54,570 --> 01:47:59,370rest of Calavera give us 2222through fountain and he says no166301:47:59,370 --> 01:48:02,700gang what? Oh pew pew go pocket166401:48:04,830 --> 01:48:09,780where my emacs bros add where amI? Where am I vi sisters that166501:48:09,780 --> 01:48:11,610come on what's going on? Here?166601:48:11,940 --> 01:48:16,140Is my name my nano sister fromanother mister on the other end166701:48:16,140 --> 01:48:20,580here is the James Cridland 1001SAS through fountain. He says166801:48:20,580 --> 01:48:23,400are you really quoting the applespecification, which only ever166901:48:23,400 --> 01:48:28,710refers to Apple? Because it'sthe apple spec? I love I love167001:48:28,710 --> 01:48:34,710this. The incredulity isdripping off kind of are you167101:48:34,710 --> 01:48:38,070really quoting the applespecification? Parentheses,167201:48:38,160 --> 01:48:41,250which only ever refers to Applebecause it's the apple spec167301:48:41,310 --> 01:48:44,400close parentheses to suggestthat Apple has written the spec167401:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,000for the whole podcasting. Theyhave not. They have written a167501:48:48,000 --> 01:48:52,170spec for Apple podcast clientsonly. That is literally all167601:48:52,170 --> 01:48:57,840Apple cares about. Yeah, I wantto just I just want to get wide167701:48:57,840 --> 01:49:02,970recognition here that I readthis booster Graham with the167801:49:02,970 --> 01:49:08,850full amount perhaps more amountof incredulity and sarcasm.167901:49:08,880 --> 01:49:10,530Yeah, he actually intended Yes,168001:49:10,530 --> 01:49:13,020you'll get credit for that. Yes,well done. Okay. All done.168101:49:13,050 --> 01:49:19,590Yes. And yes, that's exactlywhat I did. James 3960 SATs from168201:49:19,710 --> 01:49:20,610Casper Zealand.168301:49:20,730 --> 01:49:23,670Thank you. Denise says boost aheart love168401:49:23,670 --> 01:49:25,710your unbelieving umbrella andventures. Thanks.168501:49:27,510 --> 01:49:31,170Yours are particularly fun yourumbrella adventures? Yeah.168601:49:31,680 --> 01:49:36,060Fun is not what I would call it.Mitch 2222. This is one more168701:49:36,060 --> 01:49:41,280test boost. Got it. Mitch boostBucha 69 through Yale from Yale168801:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,490through pod verse and he saysHell yeah, pod verse Now beer168901:49:44,490 --> 01:49:46,680live cheers from Gitmo nation.wienerschnitzel.169001:49:48,420 --> 01:49:49,170Nice.169101:49:51,120 --> 01:49:56,610See, that we get that there'ssome test booths, okay.169201:49:56,730 --> 01:50:00,330Anonymous 4500 SATs through castematic is make Get up for169301:50:00,330 --> 01:50:03,090playing the podcast with anempty wallet. I rarely look at169401:50:03,090 --> 01:50:04,050the app or possible.169501:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,850Yeah, when someone runs out ofSATs you gotta make that clear.169601:50:08,910 --> 01:50:09,900devs Yeah,169701:50:10,350 --> 01:50:12,420yeah, this should be like abuzzer or something.169801:50:13,590 --> 01:50:14,880Yeah.169901:50:15,570 --> 01:50:21,480Three haptic feedback when yourwallet runs dry starship Elvis170001:50:21,570 --> 01:50:25,230again 3333 through fountain hesays keep doing what you do. We170101:50:25,230 --> 01:50:30,180will nice. See dubs 10,000 101.From pod Oh through the podcast170201:50:30,180 --> 01:50:36,090index website. Hey. Saysboosting from podcast index.com170301:50:36,090 --> 01:50:36,660With lb.170401:50:37,200 --> 01:50:38,550Nice, fantastic.170501:50:38,970 --> 01:50:43,860Moritz from lb as soon as 2100says through also through the170601:50:43,860 --> 01:50:47,010podcast index website. It saysHave fun at podcast moving in170701:50:47,010 --> 01:50:50,010Dallas, please spread the wordabout podcasting 2.0 and value170801:50:50,010 --> 01:50:51,390for value we plan on170901:50:51,420 --> 01:50:55,260that's why we're going bro in tospread the word.171001:50:57,000 --> 01:51:01,170Brian of London in the hive Daofor 45,899171101:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,020Nice nice. Thank you.171201:51:04,050 --> 01:51:09,720He's in he said some Hebrew. Oh,and this is going to be yes.171301:51:10,050 --> 01:51:12,960Entertainment for Hebrewspeakers as I butchered this it171401:51:12,960 --> 01:51:18,240says the rev Tov Leeroy be midBenito171501:51:18,390 --> 01:51:22,080Arif Tov means good evening.Almost like a missive. I can171601:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,050find this because it did it gothrough the email.171701:51:26,100 --> 01:51:29,670No, it came directly off thenode. It was a Bookstagram171801:51:29,940 --> 01:51:31,470Oh, but when when was it sent? I171901:51:31,470 --> 01:51:34,170guess is my question. I can copyand paste it into single chat172001:51:34,170 --> 01:51:36,510and now you're talking. Let'sgive it if you want to give it a172101:51:36,510 --> 01:51:37,170whirl.172201:51:38,550 --> 01:51:44,280Oh, here we go. Arif Toffler,Roy B Mitch. So he's saying no,172301:51:44,280 --> 01:51:44,610it's172401:51:44,610 --> 01:51:47,370not a C that's a T naught v dashv. And172501:51:47,940 --> 01:51:51,300now here's what he says is Goodevening, Roy. Meet Mitch. That's172601:51:51,300 --> 01:51:58,020exactly what it says. But isthat Oh, hello? Of course not. I172701:51:58,020 --> 01:52:04,170have no idea what it says. MyHebrew is extremely limited.172801:52:05,220 --> 01:52:07,410Is it read Arif?172901:52:08,550 --> 01:52:10,890Arif Tov is good evening that Iactually know.173001:52:11,400 --> 01:52:15,870Okay, let's just do this wasGoogle Translate.173101:52:16,020 --> 01:52:21,690Oh, you really think you can youjust paste the translate from173201:52:21,690 --> 01:52:25,980Hebrew? Yeah, it works. Okay.What is good evening to Roy in173301:52:25,980 --> 01:52:27,840his bed. Yeah, it was close.173401:52:28,860 --> 01:52:31,320There we go. That word.173501:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,580We just pasted all thosesquigglies into translate and it173601:52:35,580 --> 01:52:40,920did it. Oh, I know. I know. Icouldn't I forgot to read from173701:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,390right to left. That was mymistake.173801:52:42,780 --> 01:52:47,490That's what it was. is actuallyMitch and Mitch robe. Red.173901:52:48,300 --> 01:52:54,780Really good at Trump's got alove grid. Jeff's got 55,555174001:52:54,780 --> 01:52:56,610SATs through fountain. Oh,beautiful174101:52:56,610 --> 01:52:57,990drive. Thank you so much.174201:52:58,950 --> 01:53:00,810Do you want to know what theboost message was? Course?174301:53:01,110 --> 01:53:04,530Boost booster. Got it. Allright.174401:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,460And you get the baller. You getthe baller Tito174501:53:08,490 --> 01:53:10,380ballers ready. Alright,174601:53:11,640 --> 01:53:19,110Lyceum through fountain give us221,905 sets174701:53:20,310 --> 01:53:23,100Sakala 20 is Blaze on a174801:53:24,390 --> 01:53:26,130quarter mil bro.174901:53:26,550 --> 01:53:31,740It is nine rescue and he saysrands day boost. What is rands175001:53:31,740 --> 01:53:32,400day Oh,175101:53:32,400 --> 01:53:33,420I and Randy.175201:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,070r a n d s de Ranz de i and Rand175301:53:38,070 --> 01:53:41,850Yeah. Hi. Nice. birthday orsomething? I think so. Yeah.175401:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,920What was what was the amountagain? Dave?175501:53:44,550 --> 01:53:54,990221 905-221-9519. Maybe? Let mesee. European format.175601:53:55,140 --> 01:53:59,880Iron Rand day. Let's, you know,there's this thing. May 19.175701:53:59,880 --> 01:54:04,410Called the internet. Yeah, youknow, iron Rand days February 2.175801:54:04,410 --> 01:54:07,470So I don't know. That's. I don'tknow what this is. Maybe talking175901:54:07,470 --> 01:54:10,050about Rand. You know, themilitary industrial complex. I176001:54:10,050 --> 01:54:12,510don't know. Oh, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait, was she born176101:54:12,510 --> 01:54:17,700in 1905? Oh, hold on a second.Because this is two to 1905.176201:54:18,810 --> 01:54:30,060Let me see. Iron Rand was bornin 1905. No. Code. Nice. Well176301:54:30,060 --> 01:54:31,440done, Dave. Well done.176401:54:31,440 --> 01:54:36,480Thank you. Thank you. And Ron'sbirthday February 2 1905. It was176501:54:36,480 --> 01:54:42,450the literally the second line ofthe histogram of waste. Okay,176601:54:42,450 --> 01:54:44,940please buy beer for JamesCrillon for adding the booths176701:54:44,940 --> 01:54:48,210number to the histogramnumerology pays page. Best176801:54:48,210 --> 01:54:51,030premise with your presentationat Podcast Movement in Dallas,176901:54:51,090 --> 01:54:54,720go podcasting Martin lindskog cohost of the secular foxhole177001:54:54,720 --> 01:55:00,900podcast, podcast. Thank you somuch, Mark. appreciate that so177101:55:00,900 --> 01:55:03,930much. The delimiter comma streetblogger177201:55:03,960 --> 01:55:05,220guy there he is.177301:55:06,690 --> 01:55:11,64033 And he says, howdy dataminedDave likelihood of World War177401:55:11,640 --> 01:55:15,090Three still is significantlyhigher. Evil Russia invaded177501:55:15,090 --> 01:55:18,510whole Ukraine. So please enterAI duck cooking in your web.177601:55:19,680 --> 01:55:20,130Yes,177701:55:20,370 --> 01:55:22,500this is because this will savethe world you see.177801:55:24,120 --> 01:55:25,800Philosophy this non sequitur177901:55:27,000 --> 01:55:33,330is Putin getting you down? WhatAI dog cooking into your browser178001:55:33,510 --> 01:55:35,700and everything will go away.178101:55:36,780 --> 01:55:45,240Make Putin angry enter AI dotcookie into the sea. So please178201:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,750enter AI cooking in your webbrowser or podcatcher to relax178301:55:48,750 --> 01:55:53,100from that looming war with silkyvoice with silky voice of Gregor178401:55:53,100 --> 01:55:56,580who will William ForsytheForeman from kin so podsafe Yes,178501:55:56,610 --> 01:56:00,810with Rocco's best Liske Yo, whatis Rocco's? Bessell Liske?178601:56:01,200 --> 01:56:02,880I don't know but178701:56:03,030 --> 01:56:07,740I'm not looking. We've been tomany searches on this.178801:56:08,490 --> 01:56:13,440I also I do the intro for thatjust you know, he never mentions178901:56:13,440 --> 01:56:18,150me for AI. Yeah, all I do is Isay that episode number, a179001:56:18,150 --> 01:56:19,830podcast about cooking No.179101:56:21,780 --> 01:56:26,910Never listen to the listen tothe silky voice of data from the179201:56:27,150 --> 01:56:31,740database never know. I think hehas to make good on that.179301:56:33,270 --> 01:56:34,440We got some monthlies.179401:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,640Please Okay, thank you everybodyfor thank you everybody for179501:56:38,640 --> 01:56:43,890participating in value for valueusing the apps new podcast179601:56:43,890 --> 01:56:46,860apps.com sending the valueboosting booster grabbing179701:56:46,860 --> 01:56:50,310streaming sites. We have liftoff we love you.179801:56:52,260 --> 01:56:56,970Monthly Pay Pal subscriptionsDerek J Fisker great name $21179901:56:57,120 --> 01:57:00,930David Norman our buddy ahypercaloric $25 Paul Saltzman180001:57:01,470 --> 01:57:06,510$22.20 Thank you, Paul.Appreciate you. Damon. Damon180101:57:06,510 --> 01:57:10,410Cassidy Jack $15. longtimesupporter, thank you, Damon.180201:57:10,740 --> 01:57:15,750Jeremy Garrett's $5 TimothyHudgens, my buddy $25 and Thomas180301:57:15,750 --> 01:57:17,670Sullivan Jr. $5180401:57:17,790 --> 01:57:21,360and thank you all so much and areminder that some of you may be180501:57:21,360 --> 01:57:26,250eligible for a podcasting 2.0certified t shirt, depending on180601:57:26,250 --> 01:57:31,050your on your donation amounts.What's the what's the 125 is180701:57:31,050 --> 01:57:32,100that the level Dave?180801:57:33,300 --> 01:57:35,370That's $125 120 Fest. That's180901:57:36,270 --> 01:57:41,400correct. So if any of you gointo Podcast Movement, you know181001:57:41,460 --> 01:57:44,940maybe something look cool andjust saying, Hey, do we have any181101:57:44,970 --> 01:57:47,310we can wear any cool to you? Arewe going to coordinate Bobbsey181201:57:47,310 --> 01:57:52,920Twins style Hi. Random a dayrandom a day. How about I have181301:57:53,130 --> 01:57:55,440I'm with him and you do withhim?181401:57:57,810 --> 01:58:00,540It's just about podcasting. 2.0181501:58:01,830 --> 01:58:05,070It says on the front it saysasked me about podcasting. 2.0181601:58:05,250 --> 01:58:08,160on the back it says boost mebitch I'm telling you this.181701:58:09,780 --> 01:58:10,860That's that's how we should181801:58:12,930 --> 01:58:15,180you almost let that out of thebag. I'm glad you pulled it181901:58:15,180 --> 01:58:15,600back.182001:58:16,770 --> 01:58:19,830That was that was actually gone.That was actually an accident.182101:58:19,860 --> 01:58:22,110Okay, I'll tell you whathappened. This is very bad. I182201:58:22,110 --> 01:58:25,920spit on my screen when I saidboosting. Like Like, just rub182301:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,440that off with my finger. Thatscreen. It is a touchscreen.182401:58:28,470 --> 01:58:28,980Yes.182501:58:29,010 --> 01:58:32,550Yeah. You saved that one fromdisaster. Because that's for182601:58:32,550 --> 01:58:33,480episode 100.182701:58:34,230 --> 01:58:38,010Hey, it's coming up two moreepisodes. 100 It's gonna be fun.182801:58:38,010 --> 01:58:39,060What are we doing for our one?182901:58:39,210 --> 01:58:42,900record something that's veryinnocuous and innocent. To183001:58:42,900 --> 01:58:44,730counteract with the math jingle?183101:58:45,270 --> 01:58:50,730Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Listen,the introduction at Griffith or183201:58:50,730 --> 01:58:56,670something? Yes. Dave, Jenniferinformed informed me earlier183301:58:56,670 --> 01:59:01,950that we, you know, it was it'sterrible that episode 100 is not183401:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,740the episode we're doing ourpodcast movement when we've183501:59:05,190 --> 01:59:06,810we've hit the off by oneproblem.183601:59:08,970 --> 01:59:10,560Right. We couldn't Well, Oh,well.183701:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,980It could have been could havebeen great. Yeah.183801:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,230And we're just gonna it's justgonna be you and me. Right? No183901:59:16,230 --> 01:59:18,630guests. We're not We're not byanyone. weaselly an interaction.184001:59:18,750 --> 01:59:20,640Okay, now they can stay in thehall.184101:59:20,730 --> 01:59:23,340Exactly. Now, we should havelike monitors outside in the184201:59:23,340 --> 01:59:26,490hall. So I can sit there andlisten to us. The overflow room184301:59:26,520 --> 01:59:30,960overflow room. All right. Do wehave anything else? Jennifer?184401:59:32,040 --> 01:59:36,180Thank you so much for of course,for being here. Thank you for184501:59:36,180 --> 01:59:39,180offering your help with thehackathon. Thank you for184601:59:39,180 --> 01:59:43,530becoming the dame of the pinkdatabase. And but just thank you184701:59:43,530 --> 01:59:47,160for being a really super niceperson. And and always jumping184801:59:47,160 --> 01:59:51,720in and your your good energy,real good energy. We really184901:59:51,720 --> 01:59:52,560appreciate that.185001:59:52,800 --> 01:59:53,550Thank you,185101:59:54,360 --> 02:00:00,510Dave. A little less good energy,but I do love you brother. No,185202:00:00,750 --> 02:00:05,820no don't hit me with everybodythat's it boosts a lot. You185302:00:05,820 --> 02:00:08,070helped them Jennifer out aswell. We'll see you next time at185402:00:08,070 --> 02:00:10,680the board meeting for podcasting2.0185502:00:26,070 --> 02:00:30,660You have been listening topodcasting 2.0 Visit podcast185602:00:30,660 --> 02:00:38,250index.org For more information,boost boost boost