Episode 97: Forever Fifteen

1 00:00:00,810 --> 00:00:07,140 podcasting 2.0 for August 12 2020 to Episode 97 Forever 15 2 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:12,240 Well, hello everybody, welcome to the board meeting for 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,310 podcasting. 2.0 your weekly vitamin pill if you're into 4 00:00:17,310 --> 00:00:22,200 podcasting, I guess it's like, you know, carrots and tomatoes 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,890 and everything in one little dusty bill. That's right. We'll 6 00:00:25,890 --> 00:00:27,390 bring you up to speed and everything happening with 7 00:00:27,390 --> 00:00:31,620 podcasting 2.0 Whatever is going on at podcast index dot social 8 00:00:31,620 --> 00:00:34,890 and I am Adam curry in the heart of the Texas Hill Country in 9 00:00:34,890 --> 00:00:38,490 Alabama. My master of the slideshow deck say hello to my 10 00:00:38,490 --> 00:00:42,390 friend on the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave Jones. 11 00:00:43,049 --> 00:00:46,859 It's like a V eight. It's like drinking a va a VA. Every 12 00:00:46,859 --> 00:00:47,369 Friday. 13 00:00:47,610 --> 00:00:50,880 That's what it is. Remember those? My mom used to drink V 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:51,360 aids. 15 00:00:52,140 --> 00:00:56,520 The AIDS are super gross. Yeah. And but they're not as bad as 16 00:00:56,550 --> 00:00:58,410 Komodo. Do you remember? Clemont? 17 00:00:58,410 --> 00:01:02,700 No, I don't remember Komodo this sounds like Chlamydia is 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,270 a horrible name for for drink. It's terrible. It sounds like it 19 00:01:06,270 --> 00:01:11,550 sounds sounds like an STD. And it tastes like an STD. It's 20 00:01:11,550 --> 00:01:13,980 tomato juice with clam juice mixed in. 21 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:18,900 Oh yes. I do know Komodo Yes. Yes. I do know this. That is a 22 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:19,770 horrible drink. 23 00:01:20,220 --> 00:01:23,790 Oh, yes. Well, I don't know what it I mean, like, who sat around 24 00:01:23,790 --> 00:01:24,810 it? Man. 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,980 I thought I could tomato. 26 00:01:27,810 --> 00:01:31,680 Juice is not as it's not. It's not super terrible. What can we 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,620 do to push it over the edge to make it undrinkable 28 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:36,570 some clam sap in there. 29 00:01:37,770 --> 00:01:40,320 And we want a We want your visit to the bathroom later to be 30 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:46,050 equally horrible. I never told you. I just it just dawned on 31 00:01:46,050 --> 00:01:51,720 me. I never told you. My story here comes and ever told you my 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,160 story about what happened with the chickens? About three weeks 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,050 ago when I had that. You know I did that thing with radio Inc. 34 00:02:01,050 --> 00:02:05,820 With Ed Ryan. Yeah, his how to make real money. Right? 35 00:02:06,089 --> 00:02:08,819 Right. Yeah, it's a very blatant title is what I was gonna say 36 00:02:08,819 --> 00:02:11,339 yes. How To Make Money With pot how to make real money with 37 00:02:11,339 --> 00:02:13,589 podcasting. Money. 38 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:17,790 I love the I love the title. I love how it's just like, it's 39 00:02:17,790 --> 00:02:20,940 just you know, pulls no punches. It's like, come and make huge 40 00:02:20,940 --> 00:02:25,890 sums of money or something like that. So I did it on my lunch 41 00:02:25,890 --> 00:02:29,070 break. And like I normally do these things. And I wasn't 42 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:33,390 thinking so we've got we've got chickens in the backyard. Well, 43 00:02:33,390 --> 00:02:39,900 I mean, they're in a coop. And so Melissa had started letting 44 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,190 the chickens out to roam around the yard a couple of days before 45 00:02:44,190 --> 00:02:47,670 that. So we're trying to sort of train them in to be in you know, 46 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:52,380 like some yard chickens. And I come in, and I'm not you know, 47 00:02:52,380 --> 00:02:56,760 typically what I do is I come in, and I for lunch break. Just 48 00:02:56,910 --> 00:03:00,060 eat something as fast as I can just consume it as quickly as 49 00:03:00,060 --> 00:03:02,730 possible before I jump on the podcast or an interview or 50 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:07,140 something. And so I'm not thinking straight. I'm eating at 51 00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:11,070 the same time and I let the dog out. I let banjo out. Oh, into 52 00:03:11,070 --> 00:03:14,970 the backyard. Yeah. And then I close and I'm in Okay, 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,820 how many how many minutes did it take before you realize you're 54 00:03:17,820 --> 00:03:18,480 about 30 55 00:03:19,650 --> 00:03:25,560 seconds. I was like, Oh crap. So I run out the back door and he's 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:31,530 got one of the chickens pinned down by the wing sniffing it 57 00:03:31,530 --> 00:03:37,410 like ready to just eat? Yes. Yeah. The nowadays Yes, exactly. 58 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:41,040 And you know go in there and just you know not you know, 59 00:03:41,070 --> 00:03:43,380 knock him and get him out I'm like yeah, you get away from it. 60 00:03:43,380 --> 00:03:46,170 Well then these two other chicks the two we get three the two 61 00:03:46,170 --> 00:03:48,630 other chickens. They freak out and bail out start running 62 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:51,120 across the yard. Well he takes off after they're taken off 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,780 after him and this is 110 pound dog right? Yeah, 64 00:03:54,810 --> 00:03:58,410 he's well over 100 pounds. It's about 100 degrees outside now 65 00:03:58,410 --> 00:04:02,160 but and I'm running after about five minutes I managed to 66 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,060 finally get my head 67 00:04:03,450 --> 00:04:05,130 over here you are the dog is 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:12,060 we're close enough finally get my hand around his around his 69 00:04:12,060 --> 00:04:15,840 collar in and I'm able to you know to wrestle him back in 70 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,600 here. And then it's like literally like 30 seconds before 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,860 I'm supposed to jump on with Edie. I come in, come over here 72 00:04:22,890 --> 00:04:26,520 and sit down and it's like, boom, love. I mean, this was 73 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,760 like, I cannot believe I didn't look like a complete disaster. 74 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:36,330 Oh, how did it go? went great. It was fun to email you later 75 00:04:36,330 --> 00:04:38,040 and say Hey, thanks, man. I'm making money. 76 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,830 Now they didn't actually it's funny enough they didn't I 77 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:43,230 haven't gotten any emails interesting. That didn't the 78 00:04:43,230 --> 00:04:46,980 date the next day. The hall gate one of our chickens so oh 79 00:04:46,980 --> 00:04:50,010 goodness. The lead them out in the backyard experiment didn't 80 00:04:50,010 --> 00:04:50,640 last very long. 81 00:04:52,470 --> 00:04:57,240 Yeah, he was sorry. I'm sorry to hear that. So are you are you 82 00:04:57,270 --> 00:05:00,660 down one chicken so you still have two left yet? Chicken down. 83 00:05:00,810 --> 00:05:03,960 And I had chickens. I had probably about 10 or 12 84 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,220 chickens. I had the castle and I had goats and shit. And our dog. 85 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Oh yeah. of goats the worst. Yeah, it's 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,550 just funny how you said, the castle. Castle. We 87 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:16,860 all know it used to be rich, you know? And then I spent it all 88 00:05:16,860 --> 00:05:19,740 on, you know, chickens, goats, castles, helicopters, you know, 89 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:23,250 stuff like that. One does don't feel bad. I had a good time. 90 00:05:24,810 --> 00:05:27,330 I really did. Those 40s were a blur. 91 00:05:28,170 --> 00:05:33,000 Exactly. It was a good estimate. We it really was it was 30 3040. 92 00:05:35,790 --> 00:05:40,110 And, you know, the chickens. You know, Christina, my daughter, 93 00:05:40,110 --> 00:05:43,500 she was probably about 1314 at the time. And we said that let's 94 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:46,050 go, you know, this whole idyllic thing. Let's go get some eggs 95 00:05:46,050 --> 00:05:48,240 from the chickens like, oh, yeah, we walk with a little 96 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,500 basket and go do chickens are mean bastards. They're terrible. 97 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:59,340 They hold your hand like not at all, like in the in the in the 98 00:05:59,340 --> 00:06:02,280 in the fairy tale book, you know? No, no, don't 99 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:06,900 love you. They love you. Yeah, a buddy of mine has chickens in 100 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:11,700 his, his. He had a bunch of them. And his dog is his son at 101 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:16,110 a date coming over. And he was like, first time ever, you know, 102 00:06:16,110 --> 00:06:20,160 like this blind date. And so then they go, that is dark. And 103 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,380 he's like, hey, I want you to you know, once you see my chick, 104 00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:24,450 and she's, they were talking about how many chickens they 105 00:06:24,450 --> 00:06:26,280 had. And things like, Come Come back here. And look, it's really 106 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:29,430 cool. So they go, he takes her in the backyard, and they have a 107 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:32,430 flashlight and everything. They're gonna show him all 108 00:06:32,430 --> 00:06:35,070 because they had like 15 chickens, gets back there, a 109 00:06:35,070 --> 00:06:39,000 raccoon had gotten in goodness. And it was just feathers and 110 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,710 blood and guts. He was like, Oh, my God, this is horrible. 111 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,310 Yes, there's somewhere there's an analogy in there for 112 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:50,850 podcasting. I haven't quite figured it out yet. Chicken 2.0. 113 00:06:50,850 --> 00:06:53,730 Well, you know what came first chicken or the egg. And I'm 114 00:06:53,730 --> 00:06:58,650 gonna make a bold prediction. I'm also going to say that I've 115 00:06:58,650 --> 00:07:03,900 really been paying attention to the hosting companies, and the 116 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:06,570 speed of development, the amount of development and I've 117 00:07:06,570 --> 00:07:10,530 mentioned it before, we have a competition going on. Now people 118 00:07:10,530 --> 00:07:12,840 are seeing that these are standard items, you have to have 119 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,910 your podcasts on podcasting 2.0 features, I think by this time 120 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:22,740 next year, so that'll be what is it, August 12, Apple will have 121 00:07:24,060 --> 00:07:27,840 declared the namespace in their product. And they will be using 122 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:33,540 probably chapters. And the reason to get us to get a pin I 123 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:37,140 gotta read. Sure. Put it put it in our blue book. And the reason 124 00:07:37,140 --> 00:07:41,940 for this is very simple. This is always the problem. This is the 125 00:07:41,940 --> 00:07:46,080 chicken in the egg of these types of situations. But now we 126 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,910 have thanks to the app developers. We have receivers, 127 00:07:50,910 --> 00:07:53,820 we have radios, we have apps that understand these features, 128 00:07:53,820 --> 00:07:57,810 and there's people using them. But more importantly, now we 129 00:07:57,810 --> 00:08:00,660 have hosting companies who are offering this content, 130 00:08:01,410 --> 00:08:05,910 additional content, and any product manager, any product 131 00:08:05,910 --> 00:08:10,770 manager will eventually say, you know, there's enough people 132 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:12,810 using this that we should probably integrate some of 133 00:08:12,810 --> 00:08:15,480 these, which ones are we going to do? And I'm telling you and 134 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,090 and an apple would be smart to do it because they can 135 00:08:18,090 --> 00:08:22,770 differentiate because Spotify is stuck in their own internal 136 00:08:22,770 --> 00:08:25,950 processes. You know, Spotify will say Oh, yeah, don't make 137 00:08:25,950 --> 00:08:30,960 translators. You know, those will take the namespace data and 138 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,560 we'll change that into our Spotify spec. And whatever 139 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:38,250 anchor is going to create. I feel very comfortable making 140 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:41,640 this prediction, this prediction. I really do. I can 141 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,590 see the writing on the wall and and then then we all need to pat 142 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:50,010 ourselves on the back and go, Oh, shit, we have this power all 143 00:08:50,010 --> 00:08:50,520 along. 144 00:08:51,630 --> 00:08:54,660 That's what Well, that's what hasn't done it. Isn't that what 145 00:08:54,660 --> 00:08:57,840 we've been saying since the beginning? Everybody has this 146 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,560 power. Yeah, 147 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,200 that's why I'm coming. I'm preparing everyone for the I 148 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,980 told you so. 149 00:09:02,580 --> 00:09:06,720 Oh, okay. Everybody. Yeah, no, no, like this. That's a bold 150 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,320 prediction. 151 00:09:07,530 --> 00:09:12,030 And everyone can be really proud because it's there. It's done. 152 00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:14,790 You know, it's gonna happen, it's inevitable, it's 153 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:20,280 unavoidable. And even Spotify, you know, they, again, they're 154 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,340 stuck in their internal processes and beliefs, etc. But 155 00:09:23,340 --> 00:09:27,840 we have some massive lift off here. I mean, just step back and 156 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,820 look around and see what's happening when you have hosts at 157 00:09:32,820 --> 00:09:37,740 the level of rss.com and Buzzsprout. But you know, also 158 00:09:37,770 --> 00:09:42,210 transistor and captivate and, and you have, let us know the 159 00:09:42,210 --> 00:09:48,990 blueberry and has dos Castillo's Lind let's not forget who's our 160 00:09:48,990 --> 00:09:52,050 French friends I keep forgetting. Oh cast apod cast 161 00:09:52,050 --> 00:09:58,080 the pod Yeah. spod cast Oh pod which is basically hosting 162 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,110 company in a box. We're creating the car Vantage is being created 163 00:10:01,110 --> 00:10:05,400 the it's almost like, I mean, you see it with everything when 164 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,750 the capability is offered at scale, which now the content is 165 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:10,740 offered at scale Hans, I 166 00:10:10,740 --> 00:10:14,640 can yeah 167 00:10:18,810 --> 00:10:22,350 dog sorry, she, she liked the chicken, she's I'm done with the 168 00:10:22,350 --> 00:10:22,890 chickens. 169 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:26,220 Definitely Nima she the dog, 170 00:10:27,150 --> 00:10:29,970 our dog is also over 100 pounds, it's just and I leave the door 171 00:10:29,970 --> 00:10:33,690 open. And she can't quite get through without her side 172 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:36,540 scraping the door, you know, but she could push and it would 173 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:39,210 open. She won't do it. She just stands there. Like 174 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:41,190 I can't do it. 175 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:46,350 100 pounds, she could go through the door with a when it was 176 00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:48,210 closed, if you want to do anyway. 177 00:10:49,590 --> 00:10:52,110 My dog has not figured out that he could get anything off the 178 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:55,320 counter that he wanted. It just doesn't make sense to him. I 179 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,240 mean, he could easily just pill for everything and the whole 180 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:57,570 package. 181 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,670 So look at browsers, you know, look at the many projects that 182 00:11:02,670 --> 00:11:06,510 have shaped what browsers are today. Now it's all extra 183 00:11:06,510 --> 00:11:10,020 features. Its entire, you know, programming languages have been 184 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:14,160 added to browsers. So this this will have this will happen to 185 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,840 all apps. It's it's a done deal. It really is. And I'm so proud 186 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,700 of everybody. Really is so fucking proud. I can't explain. 187 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:26,850 It's so it's so cool. Yeah, I did use done it. 188 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,410 Did you see that? Listen notes is going to add hosting. No. And 189 00:11:31,410 --> 00:11:35,070 that maderos posted this so Oh, interesting. Just a minute. 190 00:11:35,070 --> 00:11:38,220 Well, I mean, it's on their side. The one question I have 191 00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:43,770 is, it says at the bottom that coming in fall, sign up for the 192 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:51,960 pre waitlist. It's coming in fall of 2022. But we're already 193 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:55,410 we're already way beyond fall of 2022. So I don't really know if 194 00:11:55,410 --> 00:11:58,050 this I don't know what the status of this thing is. But 195 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:59,730 supposedly it's free. 196 00:12:00,030 --> 00:12:01,410 Oh, okay. 197 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:06,900 I don't Well, you don't have to have 198 00:12:06,990 --> 00:12:09,900 you I know you and everybody has mixed feelings about free. 199 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:16,980 It's that and it's also you know, I don't I haven't really 200 00:12:16,980 --> 00:12:19,500 had time to digest it because he's, he's posted this morning 201 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:24,180 and but I don't know, something makes me uncomfortable about 202 00:12:25,380 --> 00:12:31,110 director directories also doing hosting. Okay, it's sort of like 203 00:12:31,110 --> 00:12:33,420 that. Well, I mean, same with Apple. But it makes me 204 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:36,210 uncomfortable that Apple is doing hosting. You know, they're 205 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,540 they're hosting Moravec feeds for subscriptions. Rick, if this 206 00:12:39,540 --> 00:12:44,490 was that, I think I would be a little bit less concerned by it. 207 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:46,500 If it was like, Oh, hey, we're gonna be oh, what I mean, 208 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,920 because they're because they will won't expose feeds or 209 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,790 something like that. 210 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:56,430 Well, yeah. Okay. So this is an AP. No, it's not it's not that 211 00:12:56,430 --> 00:12:59,790 it's just that listen. So listen, notes is a is an AP on a 212 00:12:59,790 --> 00:13:01,860 directory just like podcasts index. Aha. 213 00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:05,790 No, not just like pod Well, expert. Okay. 214 00:13:06,330 --> 00:13:11,670 Understand? Yes. Correct. Correction. They listened notes 215 00:13:11,730 --> 00:13:22,740 is a directory and API in the vein of podcast index, okay. And 216 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:26,400 I don't know that it is just something about it. I don't know 217 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:35,940 that it feels appropriate for the day, he would be like it 218 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:40,680 would be like if the if the library also published books. 219 00:13:42,180 --> 00:13:46,020 What you know, what, are they going to put their stuff at the 220 00:13:46,770 --> 00:13:49,440 end? They're gonna give their self their stuff favoritism. 221 00:13:50,070 --> 00:13:53,250 Yeah. That bothers more 222 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:55,650 here. Well, all right. 223 00:13:57,870 --> 00:14:01,440 Because you Okay, well, okay, I just it just go ahead, go. 224 00:14:01,470 --> 00:14:06,330 Well, I'm gonna say this. Anybody who is thinking of 225 00:14:06,330 --> 00:14:15,600 getting into the hosting game, you are insane. It is very, very 226 00:14:15,630 --> 00:14:22,020 difficult to run a good hosting company. For two reasons. One is 227 00:14:22,020 --> 00:14:24,450 your bandwidth management. Certainly if you are expecting 228 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:30,300 to have big hits, and you are not going to own them. Second, 229 00:14:30,570 --> 00:14:35,220 is you're dealing with people who are almost on par with ham 230 00:14:35,220 --> 00:14:43,260 radio operators when it comes to time suck. And, and education 231 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:49,110 needs. These are people company, they really are people company. 232 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,440 And you know, so you know, why does everybody have Why does a 233 00:14:52,650 --> 00:14:55,710 Buzzsprout have a podcast? Why does Lipson have a podcast? Why 234 00:14:55,710 --> 00:14:58,890 does blueberry have a podcast? This is all part of it. You know 235 00:14:58,890 --> 00:15:03,090 Todd Cochran? spends half his day talking to podcasters you 236 00:15:03,090 --> 00:15:06,480 know, onboarding, you got to go to conferences, you have to have 237 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,480 presence. I mean, this is not just oh, we'll just turn Yeah, 238 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,050 well, it's kind of the reverse of value for value in the ask, 239 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,900 you know, if, if you're not asking for any money, you say, 240 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:18,750 here it is, we're free, you're gonna get a bunch of shit. 241 00:15:19,830 --> 00:15:23,430 You're just gonna get shit. And then and so but now you have to 242 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:27,150 weed through shit to help people who don't understand anything. 243 00:15:27,780 --> 00:15:31,380 Which kind of which if you don't mind, moves me to marketing. 244 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:34,140 Okay, because I want to talk about this 245 00:15:34,590 --> 00:15:37,680 marketing of the of podcasting. 2.0 Yes, 246 00:15:37,710 --> 00:15:40,740 you know, podcasting, 2.0 marketing, explanation, 247 00:15:40,770 --> 00:15:43,110 education, the things that everyone is talking about 248 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:46,860 incessantly the stuff that we're really good at this, that we are 249 00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:51,240 no good at. And, and you and I privately have given up on it. 250 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,630 And we said, let's just see if it's true. Let's just see what 251 00:15:54,630 --> 00:15:58,530 happens. So I want to make it clear, it is my belief that 252 00:15:58,620 --> 00:16:02,940 podcasts index has no need to be marketed, it does not need to be 253 00:16:02,940 --> 00:16:06,600 a destination site does not need to be an education site does not 254 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:13,050 need to be anything other than a pointer to apps, services, 255 00:16:13,530 --> 00:16:20,640 develop developers and other relevant resources. Okay. So 256 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:26,250 just like everything else, in podcasting, we need to 257 00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:30,240 decentralize this. And I have, of course, we will support 258 00:16:30,270 --> 00:16:35,130 anybody who sets up an informational site, or an 259 00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:39,000 educational, so any, anything you have, will point to it, you 260 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,490 know, we'll, we'll, we'll make a page and here's more 261 00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:44,610 information. So if people somehow wind up at podcasts, 262 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:49,620 index.org they can find it. But we have so many people who don't 263 00:16:49,650 --> 00:16:52,770 know, Dan J. Lewis, this is why I think I finally got him to 264 00:16:52,770 --> 00:16:56,160 understand, like, why don't you just set something up, call it 265 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,480 podcasting 2.0 education in your butt.com. And then we'll point 266 00:17:00,870 --> 00:17:03,930 it that actually don't, and then we'll point to it and make a 267 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:07,170 great kick ass explanation. But you know, when we get into, 268 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,530 let's divide the brands of the into, I don't give a shit we 269 00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:13,260 don't have we don't care. We don't care. This is not a 270 00:17:13,260 --> 00:17:19,740 business. It's a resource, its love of and long, long, long 271 00:17:19,740 --> 00:17:22,980 term, maybe we'll get some SATs, that'll be worth something one 272 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:28,470 day. That's it. And everything else is to serve the podcast 273 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:32,370 industry, no podcaster needs to come to us to understand how to 274 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:35,520 do this, because they're not gonna get they're never gonna 275 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,570 get anything. And we can't design this by committee, you 276 00:17:39,570 --> 00:17:42,150 know, make it and I want Cridland to make his own kids 277 00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:46,260 and does this all his own new podcast apps version, and this 278 00:17:46,260 --> 00:17:50,220 is fine. It doesn't have to be one central place where then we 279 00:17:50,430 --> 00:17:53,730 we already saw pull requests, it doesn't really work. You know, 280 00:17:53,730 --> 00:17:57,210 make it a testing ground for stuff. You know, I love what 281 00:17:57,210 --> 00:18:01,920 comics or Blogger did with the with the boosts with using the 282 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,030 value block from the website and Albie. So thanks for that to 283 00:18:06,060 --> 00:18:07,410 five other sites. No, 284 00:18:07,410 --> 00:18:08,730 Steven B. That was always even 285 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:14,400 me. I'm sorry. So but but you're right. Regardless, there's no 286 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,180 third party sites. It's all first party information. If 287 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:21,810 you're involved in this write it, you know, I want to have a 288 00:18:21,810 --> 00:18:26,790 definitive pod pain page that explains everything I know who 289 00:18:26,790 --> 00:18:30,810 should write it. You know, let's have all that and let's let's 290 00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:35,400 point to those pieces like a directory does, because that's 291 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,180 what we are. 292 00:18:38,190 --> 00:18:41,910 I've got I've got thoughts. Okay. And these thoughts came 293 00:18:41,910 --> 00:18:47,790 from the recently now completed slideshow presentation for the 294 00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:49,560 podcast. Do you have 295 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,900 a slide for me, which is just how to make money? 296 00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:57,240 Yeah, no, you have one slide in the presentation is this slide 297 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,750 number two? It says intro dadada 298 00:19:02,190 --> 00:19:04,590 perfect. Exactly what I wanted. Yeah. 299 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,860 And the other 41 slides or me or for me 41 300 00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:09,240 slides. You're never 301 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,420 gonna make it. I'm gonna do it. He watched me watch. We're gonna 302 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:17,520 make an okay. Practice. Don't put on a damn clinic. I'm gonna, 303 00:19:17,730 --> 00:19:24,150 no I haven't practiced at all I'm gonna wing it. So, but my 304 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:29,190 thoughts from from the from putting this thing together is 305 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:37,770 it's what I had to the structure of it is going tag by tag and 306 00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:42,150 saying, Okay, here's the tag and I built an infographic for it. 307 00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:48,780 infographic. Okay, saying infographic gives it way more 308 00:19:48,780 --> 00:19:49,860 credit than it deserves. 309 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:52,710 Is it two circles? Is it a box? 310 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:01,860 It's things I'll show you but Okay, so I did, I did a little 311 00:20:01,860 --> 00:20:06,030 graphic for each for each tag and showed shows how it works 312 00:20:06,030 --> 00:20:13,830 trying to visualize things. And Steven B, says, nobody's claimed 313 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:16,740 a podcasting education in your book.com yet, so go grab there. 314 00:20:18,090 --> 00:20:26,520 So we, so it's just slide slides or take this form, tag in tag 315 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:33,090 with, with a graphic, maybe a couple of bullet points. And 316 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:39,180 then an example, like a screenshot. Working through that 317 00:20:39,180 --> 00:20:44,370 process made me think, okay, a really good site, marketing, PR, 318 00:20:44,370 --> 00:20:47,460 whatever you want to call us. If there was a website that was say 319 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:53,100 that catered to developers, and and podcasters, who wanted to 320 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:57,780 find out about each individual feature, you could have a site 321 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:04,050 that did that, in which it has some graphics, a clear plain 322 00:21:04,050 --> 00:21:07,350 English explanation, links to the developer resources for how 323 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:11,250 to build it, some example code, sure, and then, and then some 324 00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:14,790 screenshots and like that would be one page, one page for each 325 00:21:14,790 --> 00:21:20,400 tag. Sure. That that's, then that's do and then you can link 326 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,560 it in, you can get fancy in and put some sort of get, we put 327 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,050 some sort of GitHub action on there. When we finalize the tag, 328 00:21:28,050 --> 00:21:31,260 it automatically generates a static HTML out of it or 329 00:21:31,260 --> 00:21:35,190 something like that. You knock yourself out. It's all there. 330 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,820 And so the second part of what I was going to say to bring this 331 00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:44,100 full circle the hosting companies they are first contact 332 00:21:44,130 --> 00:21:48,720 they are they the front office for podcasters. And forget about 333 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,740 what we're doing. You know, forget about Casta pod people 334 00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:56,970 forget about sovereign feed people like myself, hosting 335 00:21:56,970 --> 00:22:01,770 companies, they have hundreds of 1000s of customers. And we're 336 00:22:01,770 --> 00:22:07,020 gonna build a website somewhere over here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, 337 00:22:07,020 --> 00:22:09,510 which by the way, is okay because maybe they'll point to 338 00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:12,000 it, maybe there's some some great resources that are they 339 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,720 can use and they can lift and they can transmogrify, but I 340 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,210 know Buzzsprout speaks differently to their, to their 341 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,350 clients, then blueberry, they just speak different languages. 342 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:28,200 So those are the guys that they are the educators. They are. I 343 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:34,650 was listening to pod land, and EVO taro was co hosting. And he 344 00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:39,180 said, you know, he's really into value for value stuff. He loves 345 00:22:39,180 --> 00:22:43,620 it. And he says, You know, I was I use fountain now exclusively, 346 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:46,980 and I was listening to all these fiction podcasts. And I 347 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:50,820 realized, it was so horrible that none of my favorite fiction 348 00:22:50,820 --> 00:22:54,810 podcasts were value for value enabled, and I was so bummed 349 00:22:54,810 --> 00:23:02,310 out. And so I'm boosting this show, saying, Hi. Please contact 350 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:08,730 the podcast host, and alert them to this wonderful thing. And you 351 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:13,680 can say podcaster wallet.com. You can say fountain.fm. You 352 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,960 know, you can point to different hosting companies. You know, 353 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,310 obviously, we know that rss.com now has it integrated, and 354 00:23:23,310 --> 00:23:28,500 others. This is this is how it works. And we all have that 355 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:31,590 responsibility. And that needs to be on someone's website where 356 00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:34,380 they explain what we're doing is like, how does how does it work? 357 00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:36,840 Well, you know, if you hear someone who doesn't have it, and 358 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,920 you listen to a podcast, tell them send them here. So, just so 359 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,180 everyone knows, I'm way okay with it. You know, don't sit 360 00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:48,660 around waiting for Dave and Adam to do anything because, and we 361 00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:51,660 do everything by the seat of our pants. We have no fucking plan. 362 00:23:51,690 --> 00:23:56,160 No, none. We've never had one. If not, our plan is 30 days out, 363 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,410 you know, that's it? Do we have enough money for 30 days? Okay. 364 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,090 So that's, that's our plan. And we're not planning any 365 00:24:03,090 --> 00:24:06,810 marketing, we're not planning any of it, it doesn't make sense 366 00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:10,320 for us to be doing it. Nor does it make sense for it to be at 367 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,030 this place. Well, as a pointer, of course, but you know, 368 00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:18,000 everyone needs to point to everything, since we have so 369 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,100 many talented people who can hopefully everyone can get over 370 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:26,340 the hump of, you know, there doesn't have to be one official 371 00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:31,170 version of this, you know, I can already see how Daniel's is 372 00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:35,790 gonna be different from James and I can see how this will be 373 00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:39,090 different. I can see how what you just described maybe Alex 374 00:24:39,090 --> 00:24:42,060 gates gives a shot at that, you know, or someone who's just 375 00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:44,640 listening who wants to contribute and help out being 376 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,540 these are all great things that we can do. And if we can get 377 00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:51,960 over the it has to be one official thing, which doesn't as 378 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,000 far as I'm concerned, then we're good to go. 379 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:57,960 That's part of value for value is that it doesn't have to be 380 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,330 one is so none None of this is none of this is licensed. We 381 00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:07,500 don't you know, we don't own No, we haven't trademarked any of 382 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:10,530 this stuff is like just take take all the podcasts and 2.0 383 00:25:10,530 --> 00:25:15,000 graphics and pocket that he'll take our podcasts index. And all 384 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,230 that nature. I just do 385 00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:23,250 the whole thing off our hands please set it up somewhere else 386 00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:24,510 run it on your metal. 387 00:25:24,930 --> 00:25:28,800 Yeah. Hey, where yourself you know knock stuff out. That's 388 00:25:28,830 --> 00:25:32,820 it's all great with us that no, James, on the last episode 389 00:25:32,850 --> 00:25:36,300 episode of Caitlyn said that we were said that you and our 390 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:37,050 teenagers? 391 00:25:37,050 --> 00:25:39,660 Yes, I heard that. Yeah. Hello. Hello. 392 00:25:41,010 --> 00:25:46,320 Now this is a new revelation. Wow. Okay, 393 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,730 I know it's like, Oh, gee. 394 00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:52,350 Yeah, my, my wife could have told you that years ago. No, no, 395 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:56,760 it's 100%. Right. That means the excellently named pimp podcast 396 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,990 and yeah, is, is only that's only one component of the 397 00:26:00,990 --> 00:26:04,500 teenager pneus of this entire endeavor. The other component is 398 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:06,390 we don't make any plans yet. 399 00:26:06,930 --> 00:26:10,770 And because we don't make plans, and because you know, we're just 400 00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:15,000 doing this cuz it's good is the right thing to do. Well, let us 401 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,610 have some fun. joke around a little bit. Yeah, Dad. Come on, 402 00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:23,430 man. I'm trying to be real professional. 403 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:32,850 So I would like to talk for a moment. Yes. About Satoshi dice 404 00:26:32,850 --> 00:26:38,010 dream. Oh, okay. Can see because this fits in with just go do 405 00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:42,330 some stuff. Okay. Satoshi. Satoshi dice. Yeah, I love that. 406 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:45,120 Nobody knows who this person is. They don't know if they don't 407 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:50,310 know the, the gender of this person. It's this person is just 408 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:52,260 known as Satoshi dice tray. Yes. 409 00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:54,660 I'm not even sure that this person likes us really. 410 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:58,530 I'm inclined to think that they do not but it's a 411 00:26:58,530 --> 00:27:00,000 Dutch person. I'm pretty sure 412 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:07,590 is it easy to Okay. I feel like it's hard to determine whether 413 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:10,440 or not Dutch people like you from their tone of voice in 414 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:10,950 English 415 00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:13,890 or RX they come across as very harsh. 416 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,590 What what is that is that? 417 00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:22,050 Well, first of all, they live underwater practically so 418 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,290 they're stressed. Okay. That makes a lot of sense. You know, 419 00:27:25,290 --> 00:27:27,990 they're farmers are their farmers are blocking the 420 00:27:27,990 --> 00:27:31,860 roadways. So they throw in turds on the capital. Yeah, it's a 421 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:35,250 country you know, they are the narco capital of the European 422 00:27:35,250 --> 00:27:39,060 Union. So I don't know there's a lot of things but it's it really 423 00:27:39,060 --> 00:27:43,320 is just the way they speak English and just comes up to 424 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,130 Carl he just comes across just comes across his very harsh 425 00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:52,170 they have definite like like downstrokes on the ending of the 426 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:54,780 things they say is that is that the language has 427 00:27:54,780 --> 00:28:00,480 something to do with the reversal of words and when so I 428 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:08,850 have I have been to my grandmother's I can't even do it 429 00:28:08,850 --> 00:28:11,820 right but everything is backwards so somehow on the 430 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:14,460 unscramble it and put it in the right order it just comes across 431 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:18,180 as harsh okay, but they're not because the Dutch are fantastic 432 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:21,180 people that very very loving when you break through the what 433 00:28:21,180 --> 00:28:25,740 you think is a harsh shell, but they're pretty cool. So, but not 434 00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:28,620 this guy, whoever this person is, this person is just a jerk 435 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:29,310 sometimes. 436 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:35,490 Yeah. Absolute douche Satoshis dot stream. He emailed me said, 437 00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:40,710 feel free to share this in podcasting. tupuna Oh, okay. So 438 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:44,190 he said you finally have some time to wait, constitution, 439 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:45,150 industrial comics, 440 00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:47,100 comics are bloggers actually, Satoshi. 441 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:51,900 Now that would be a heck of a reveal. Right? Wouldn't 442 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,490 that be an eye opener? Yeah. 443 00:28:55,410 --> 00:28:57,900 Finally says finally have some time to work on Satoshi stream. 444 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:00,600 Again, don't expect too much too soon. But I'm working on a web 445 00:29:00,630 --> 00:29:04,950 version. Oh, it also supports multiple nodes on our side for 446 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:07,980 load balancing. So I said our Okay, so there's more than one 447 00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:13,050 person involved? He says and it means we do not need telegram 448 00:29:13,050 --> 00:29:14,430 anymore to manage podcasts. 449 00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:18,990 Thank goodness. Yeah, that was the one downside to do not like 450 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:20,820 using telegram. Yeah. 451 00:29:21,270 --> 00:29:23,460 And he says working on some back end things. Now the endpoints 452 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:26,280 seems to work and he gave some other stuff. So anyway, that's, 453 00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:31,470 that's cool. Very cool. So we'll have another easier option 454 00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:35,220 because I've always felt I always felt weird about telling 455 00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:39,330 people to go to telegram because it seems so scammy Yeah, 456 00:29:39,330 --> 00:29:41,970 telegram is where all the NFT crap happens and people get 457 00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:42,750 their money. So and 458 00:29:42,750 --> 00:29:48,240 I'm always getting chicks. DMing me? Yeah, German chicks. And of 459 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,810 course, it's all the same Indian dude, or the guy from Nairobi or 460 00:29:51,810 --> 00:29:57,090 whatever. Nigeria Nigeria. Report. Yes, yes, Ty it's 461 00:29:57,090 --> 00:30:01,200 annoying. It's tiring. That's very cool. I presume this is 462 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,240 part of what Alby is kicked off, you know, I'll be somehow they 463 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,610 did something just a little different than I think it's 464 00:30:08,610 --> 00:30:11,550 great. They picked up to Elon URL protocol and really ran with 465 00:30:11,550 --> 00:30:14,580 it. Because that's like Elon bits. That was one of the things 466 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:16,770 we looked at in the very beginning. It's like, holy shit, 467 00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:18,840 there's a lot you can do these little apps, you can build 468 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,980 yourself and set it up with its own separate little wallet on 469 00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:24,870 your node. You know, I always thought that would be something 470 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:29,310 that was cool. Yeah, for sure. So now to have Satoshi stream 471 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:32,040 doing that is very smart in general. I also wanted to say 472 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,990 for, for app developers, I think what, I'm not sure, but I think 473 00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:40,800 what pod verse has now done, in which the App Store accepted in 474 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,240 testflight, is you hook up your Alby node after you get the app 475 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,690 right. 476 00:30:48,210 --> 00:30:51,360 Which is what they always wanted. That's That's what and 477 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,680 that makes so much sense. 478 00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:56,220 Yeah, it does. Because there's no there's no, 479 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,110 there's no no violation possible for the AppStore. Exactly. And, 480 00:31:01,110 --> 00:31:04,560 and pod verse doesn't have to worry about ever being, you 481 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,770 know, a claim that they are messing with keys or miss right? 482 00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:11,940 coins or whatever. Yeah, that's great. I did I haven't had a 483 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:13,920 chance to play with it yet. Because it has happened so soon 484 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,370 before the show. But have you been stuck? Did you install it? 485 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,960 No. No, I don't have iOS and, and even then I'll still have to 486 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,010 wait. Once it hits the Google Store, then I have to wait a 487 00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:30,150 couple of days. And then I can get it through? What's that? The 488 00:31:30,150 --> 00:31:35,580 spoof? This is pretty cool spoof store for graphene spoof store. 489 00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:41,730 Yeah. So you don't have to have any of the Google Play services 490 00:31:41,730 --> 00:31:45,810 on your phone. And you use I'm sure it's insecure Aurora store. 491 00:31:46,650 --> 00:31:52,560 And so Aurora store masks itself as a valid user. And then you 492 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,220 can you can download the apps that are in play store. That's 493 00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:57,180 pretty cool. Actually, 494 00:31:57,210 --> 00:31:58,260 that's interesting. 495 00:31:58,290 --> 00:32:01,950 I hope it's, it's, it's reasonably secure. I don't know. 496 00:32:01,950 --> 00:32:05,070 I mean, you still don't know what an apple do. What an app 497 00:32:05,070 --> 00:32:08,520 mean, and of course, you know, stuff like backup to Google 498 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,040 Drive. And that's, that doesn't work. But generally, the apps 499 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,460 will run 500 00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:17,249 chance that you log into Albion, the pod verse app, and then it 501 00:32:17,249 --> 00:32:23,129 acts just like another plug into that. Oh, yeah, that's like, 502 00:32:23,579 --> 00:32:25,349 there was something back on the test flight, I don't think I'm 503 00:32:25,349 --> 00:32:25,769 only reading 504 00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:29,160 something else. I also wanted to mention, I finally read through 505 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:36,180 the Tarot white paper. This is a lightning labs thing that they 506 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,890 that they announced they got the $75 million investment and part 507 00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:44,340 of what they were doing with that money is Taro, which is a 508 00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:50,040 new protocol for multi asset Bitcoin and lightning. And was 509 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,890 very interesting about this. And, and at first, I was like, 510 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,470 Oh, I don't know if I like this, I'm not quite sure. But then, 511 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:59,100 when I really dug into it, it's quite interesting, the way 512 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:02,070 they've done this, and I'm still not, I'm still unsure of the 513 00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:05,430 legality, because it's kind of what Brian of London has done 514 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:11,250 with hive. So over the Lightning Network, you could pay a hive 515 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:16,500 node in hive, and say, Alright, I want this to go to Dave in 516 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:23,010 hive. And it'll go through this exchanger node, which will turn 517 00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:26,160 it into Lightning Lightning then finds the route to another 518 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,910 exchanger node on the other end for you to receive I wonder if 519 00:33:29,910 --> 00:33:33,540 it could be the same one. And and then of course, the 520 00:33:33,540 --> 00:33:38,400 settlement ultimately takes place over on chain wants the 521 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,450 channels close, etc. But likewise, you could send $10 In 522 00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:48,990 hive and it goes straight into a US dollar wallet on the other 523 00:33:48,990 --> 00:33:54,150 end $10 or with whatever minimal lightning fee and so the more I 524 00:33:54,150 --> 00:33:58,740 thought about it, the more I'm like oh, you know, that may not 525 00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:02,340 be bad for us. If people can literally just hook it up to 526 00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:07,020 their bank account or you know, some other type of Fiat account. 527 00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:12,450 I'm good. So my understanding of it was that you can use it 528 00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:16,890 allows you to use Bitcoin not to tear Taro is something that is 529 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,600 part of the Bitcoin Core, right? 530 00:34:21,330 --> 00:34:24,660 Or is it? Oh, no, no, I think it's just something that's a 531 00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:25,770 part of l&d. 532 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,460 Because the reason I say that is because they tap tap 533 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:31,050 root enabled Taro. 534 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,740 Oh, okay. That's what Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, taproot gives 535 00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:36,720 you the functionality, but there's a core there's a bitcoin 536 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:40,890 core component to the allowing the scripting to do the taro. 537 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Yeah. So that my understanding is the way I saw it described 538 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,920 was that you could say you could have like, I don't know, let's 539 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:57,690 say 20 bucks and USD C. And then you could transfer that over a 540 00:34:57,690 --> 00:35:00,150 lightning channel and it would come out at the other end. and 541 00:35:00,150 --> 00:35:01,530 still being USDC. 542 00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:05,070 Yeah, but basically, you could punch anything in on one end, 543 00:35:05,070 --> 00:35:06,450 and it'll come out the other end. 544 00:35:07,350 --> 00:35:10,110 The middle, the transport mechanism is lightning is 545 00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:14,220 lightning. Exactly. Exactly. Which, of course, ultimately is 546 00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:18,930 on chain settlement. And so the idea is the way I see it is, you 547 00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:22,890 know, and it's kind of relevant with Swift, the SWIFT network 548 00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:25,980 swift payment network being dismantled, and you know, 549 00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:29,760 kicking people off Oh, yeah. So now you have a way? Well, you 550 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,740 could, you could literally, if if the network has a ruble node 551 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,410 in there, you could send us dollars, it will go into the 552 00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:44,970 into the lightning node that will poop it out into Moscow 553 00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:50,190 into Putin's lap in rubles, so that he can turn the turn the 554 00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:50,940 gas back on. 555 00:35:53,190 --> 00:36:00,240 Hey, give me a Putin man. So yeah, well, you. I guess the 556 00:36:00,510 --> 00:36:02,970 advantage of that, if I understand correctly, is that 557 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,490 you're not, there's no fees? 558 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,130 Well, I'll read from the announcement. Today, we're 559 00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:12,090 excited to announce Taro, a new Chapron powered protocol for 560 00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:14,910 issuing assets on the Bitcoin Blockchain that can be 561 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:17,970 transferred over the Lightning Network for instant high volume 562 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,500 low fee transactions. That's my Ryan Gentry voice. 563 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:30,600 Oh, yeah. You said just like, wow. It's my breath away. Okay, 564 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,940 yeah. So that means you can use the, the bit you can get the 565 00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:41,910 benefits of the low fee. Transaction. Yeah. But without 566 00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:46,440 and so you're not paying fees in the currency of the thing it is. 567 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:48,510 Supposedly, 568 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,410 well, it'll, I mean, here's, here's the flaw that I see. And 569 00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:55,320 maybe it isn't flaw. So you're gonna have to have these 570 00:36:55,590 --> 00:37:01,620 translator nodes. Right? That that says, Okay, this is this, 571 00:37:01,650 --> 00:37:07,350 you know, I'm receiving USDC or L USD, and whatever. That's, 572 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:10,320 that's what what is that? Oh, that's lightning US dollars. I'm 573 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,850 sure they're gonna have a stable coin. Well, until they're CDB 574 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:18,000 sees you're gonna have to work with stable coins and stable 575 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,670 coins, that that's not going to be a problem. Those will be 576 00:37:20,670 --> 00:37:22,620 regulated. I are going 577 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:24,660 to be regulated by the EU think they'll be regulated by the 578 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:31,020 CFTC. Or by the SEC. The SEC. Okay, because that's because 579 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:34,590 it's protect like, technically an equity. I believe so. Yeah. 580 00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:38,280 It's a financial instrument. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. 581 00:37:39,570 --> 00:37:42,960 And there's lots of pegged currencies and stuff. So I think 582 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,230 that'll that'll be okay. So once you have that, but you also need 583 00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:52,080 a you know, a remedy B and A one digital token they may exist I 584 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,880 don't know enough about them. The bottom line is the system 585 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,420 that we have in place now and and I love the romance of 586 00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:05,310 Bitcoin and, and I prefer Bitcoin, most definitely over 587 00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:12,600 any kind of a financial instrument. But it will, the 588 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,860 Lightning Network is going to become very easy to integrate 589 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:20,850 with local currencies. I'm just saying I think a lot of this 590 00:38:20,850 --> 00:38:25,020 stuff will go through transition there'll be a lot of opportunity 591 00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:28,440 for onboarding make it easier I mean, the dollar is not going to 592 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,000 go away tomorrow and Bitcoin is the king okay. Yeah, let's be 593 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,320 really clear about that. And you can still receive your your 594 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,380 value for value payments and Bitcoin in fact, that's probably 595 00:38:40,380 --> 00:38:43,890 preferable. But if you want you can you know, you could even 596 00:38:43,890 --> 00:38:46,680 have one split go off and put some into your bank account. 597 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:49,620 Yeah, well, the brands already doing that. Like he said, This 598 00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:52,050 is what I'm saying. Yeah, he's already doing exactly that. 599 00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:55,710 Yeah, he's already gets a crazy med no half machine and I mean, 600 00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:59,700 I expect him to create a one of these translators thingamajigger 601 00:38:59,730 --> 00:39:01,830 Yeah, and he'll become a millionaire you watch. 602 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,020 He already is we already know that. 603 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,600 I do have confirmation. Indeed. When we were talking about ROI 604 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,110 over there and breeze land was indeed listening in bed. 605 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,560 Did he has his 606 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,000 robot he had the robe on the floppy had the floppy slippers 607 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,210 were next to the bed because he was in his bed. But yes, we do 608 00:39:24,210 --> 00:39:27,450 have a confirmation that he indeed was listening in his bed 609 00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:29,910 with a Huawei shoe six confirmations before 610 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:31,860 silk sheets. 611 00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:41,760 We need to discuss we need to discuss the Verify tag. Okay, 612 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,940 I've been doing a little bit of that this week. Well, actually, 613 00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:48,450 you know what, let's talk about the let's talk about the block 614 00:39:48,450 --> 00:39:51,570 tech first. Okay, you want to do some tag talk? 615 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:56,550 Yeah, tag talk we need we need a jingle for tag talk. All we have 616 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:56,850 is 617 00:39:57,270 --> 00:40:03,360 this. And now it's time first time My hot namespace talk. I 618 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:03,930 like tag 619 00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:07,440 talk kind of better, though. Tag that that would lend itself to a 620 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,030 quick punchy jingle. 621 00:40:09,060 --> 00:40:12,960 Yes. Tag talk tag talk. Everybody loves tag talk ha. 622 00:40:15,089 --> 00:40:21,989 Maybe not the HA. Like you're exhausted. I am. Gay the the 623 00:40:21,989 --> 00:40:25,049 block tech. No longer is. I think everybody understands the 624 00:40:25,049 --> 00:40:29,939 way this works or at least hopefully they do. But there was 625 00:40:29,939 --> 00:40:34,769 discussion this week a little bit of a of a mild in podcast 626 00:40:34,769 --> 00:40:43,439 index dot social terms, a mild kerfuffle. With James and 627 00:40:43,439 --> 00:40:45,539 volunteer, he tends to be involved in these. 628 00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:49,860 With that was my punch line. Oh, sorry, 629 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,450 about the blog about the blog tag and its applicability to 630 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,700 Apple podcasts. Okay, so I'm going to, I'm going to first 631 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:05,010 read from the Apple document known as because we all know 632 00:41:05,010 --> 00:41:11,880 hopefully by now that the iTunes namespace declares a dot a DTD, 633 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:16,890 that actually is a 404. So if you try to go and if you try to 634 00:41:16,890 --> 00:41:20,610 click on or go to the URL where the namespace wants you to, it 635 00:41:20,610 --> 00:41:23,790 doesn't exist. It hasn't existed for many, many, many years, 636 00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:27,900 maybe ever. I'm not sure if it's ever existed. But the second 637 00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:31,500 best thing to a to that specification, which is a 638 00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:35,160 document from Apple on Apple's own website, of which I have 639 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,230 made a safe copy. When I What was 640 00:41:37,230 --> 00:41:40,260 the kerfuffle, you've set us up with all this kerfuffle talk, 641 00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:43,650 but what was the disagreement? Did I'm still you're still set 642 00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:44,190 up. Sorry. 643 00:41:44,310 --> 00:41:49,110 Yeah, this is the longest setup, it'll ever so from this 644 00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:53,700 document, is a podcast is called a podcasters. Guide to RSS, and 645 00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:57,630 this is sort of like, Apple's way of describing all their tags 646 00:41:57,630 --> 00:42:01,170 and what they do, and why you should use them and all that, 647 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,660 right. So when in under the iTunes blog, it says it's 648 00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:10,290 channel level item. And here's the description they give the 649 00:42:10,290 --> 00:42:16,080 podcast show or hide status. So that's in their directory, or, 650 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,340 or whatever. If you want your show removed from the Apple 651 00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:27,840 directory, use this tag. Okay. Next, specifying the iTunes 652 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,740 block tag with a yes value prevents the entire podcast from 653 00:42:31,740 --> 00:42:38,250 appearing in Apple podcasts. specifying any other value, 654 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:44,370 other than yes has no effect. So I'm gonna tell you why I'm going 655 00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:48,030 to this sounds like what I'm saying. It sounds like what I'm 656 00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:52,530 saying is, Apple spec says that this that the iTunes blog tag 657 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,140 only applies to Apple podcasts, which it does. But the I'm not 658 00:42:58,140 --> 00:43:04,140 saying that means that that's actually the case. The kerfuffle 659 00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:10,440 was that we need the podcast blog tag, because the iTunes 660 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,730 blog tag only applies to Apple's directory. Okay. And James said, 661 00:43:15,150 --> 00:43:19,260 No, that's not the case. And I don't know if he meant that that 662 00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:22,080 was the actual text of the spec, or if he was just referring to 663 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,550 the way it's done in practice. This is where and in this is 664 00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:36,060 what I'm trying to get at. The the actual spec language itself 665 00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:42,450 says that it only applies to Apple podcasts, right. But what 666 00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:46,710 has happened in the last 20 years is that ever since there 667 00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:51,030 was no other way to block a podcast? Then everybody said, 668 00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:55,920 okay, the iTunes blog, blog tag is what it actually means where 669 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,350 we're all going to treat it as if it means is that we're blocks 670 00:43:58,350 --> 00:44:02,490 everything. Okay, it's a blank, it's a blanket block. So there's 671 00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:06,600 a disconnect between what the spec says and what everybody 672 00:44:06,930 --> 00:44:11,190 does in reality, and we have to, and we have to live in reality, 673 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:17,490 we can't always live in the spec. So you got to live like, I 674 00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:21,210 think, who was that guy? Francis Schaeffer said you you got to 675 00:44:21,210 --> 00:44:27,810 live in the world as it is. So the world as it is, is that it 676 00:44:27,810 --> 00:44:31,230 blocks everything but that's not the end of the story. Because 677 00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:34,140 that doesn't mean that we can say okay, well, that's fine. 678 00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:39,030 That's a solid problem. Because the the one scenario that you 679 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:44,880 cannot do with that with the iTunes blog tag is decide that 680 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,670 you only want to blog apple and nobody else. 681 00:44:48,750 --> 00:44:52,620 Right, because the reality is people will see that as a full 682 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:53,160 block. 683 00:44:53,820 --> 00:45:00,300 As a full block. Yes. So you can't it if I want to buy If I 684 00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:04,710 want to block Apple only and allow it for everybody else, 685 00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:09,630 that will never be doable without his blog tag. Because 686 00:45:09,630 --> 00:45:14,850 that because then you get back into now. Now the the wording of 687 00:45:14,850 --> 00:45:20,610 the spec matters. Read the you can't live in the reality over 688 00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:24,030 here because Apple will never honor that will never honor that 689 00:45:25,470 --> 00:45:31,260 any other way. And so well excuse me, nobody else will 690 00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:33,900 honor that any other way. Because because that's the way 691 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,980 it's written. So anyway, that's, that's what I'm trying to. 692 00:45:38,430 --> 00:45:42,240 That's the reason that sort of like that little Crux there that 693 00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:48,480 that gotcha is the reason why there's multiple gotchas, but 694 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,240 that's one big one. As to why the blanket the blanket block 695 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:58,140 tune as written in the market block tag as written in iTunes 696 00:45:58,140 --> 00:46:00,810 spec is just not tenable. And we needed something different. 697 00:46:00,990 --> 00:46:01,440 Yeah, 698 00:46:01,830 --> 00:46:06,750 I understand. So I don't see the issue. Well, I don't see 699 00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:10,800 anything. So there's no issue. No, I just sold it when people 700 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,210 were just fighting them to fight. 701 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:16,590 Yeah, that's what people find most of the time. Because they 702 00:46:16,590 --> 00:46:19,830 don't have anything else to do. All right. I like to bring it 703 00:46:19,830 --> 00:46:20,310 home. 704 00:46:20,339 --> 00:46:23,399 I like to block tag. We're already using it. 705 00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:24,990 What are you blocking? 706 00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:29,220 If I am blocking Hold on a second let me let me double 707 00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:37,500 check in my sovereign feeds. We are on a second show info block 708 00:46:38,970 --> 00:46:42,360 oh is that only for I think I'm only doing that I know agenda 709 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,910 let me see because I have to do it here too then let me see show 710 00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:48,900 info. 711 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,890 I think I put it podcast blog no you okay you say you have no 712 00:46:52,890 --> 00:46:53,310 blog. 713 00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:59,910 Okay no agenda I have Spotify and Facebook selected 714 00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:04,800 okay cool. All right. Yes, Facebook even do podcasting 715 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,120 anymore and I think they've been I don't 716 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,160 know it was a selection in the menu 717 00:47:10,140 --> 00:47:11,190 you're like yes give me some 718 00:47:11,819 --> 00:47:15,899 listen if you if you know the menu this is all sovereign 719 00:47:15,899 --> 00:47:20,699 feeds. Yeah, it's interesting. I can block I can block Buzzsprout 720 00:47:20,699 --> 00:47:22,859 from importing my feed for some reason 721 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,420 Yeah, well I know what he did I know what he did he pulled in. 722 00:47:28,410 --> 00:47:32,160 Pulled in the full slug list Yes. From the yes yes. 723 00:47:32,189 --> 00:47:39,599 Shout engine slack SoundCloud Twitter booshka YouTubes and can 724 00:47:39,629 --> 00:47:42,509 I can block them all? I don't know if it does anything but 725 00:47:42,509 --> 00:47:48,029 it's cool to add people just like photos of like Hey, I 726 00:47:48,029 --> 00:47:51,839 blocked you bitch hack makes me feel powerful 727 00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:56,520 like teenagers do 728 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,140 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. No it's so I'm so we're proud users of 729 00:48:01,140 --> 00:48:06,630 this. I like and I can't wait until Spotify sucks in our feed 730 00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:09,810 again I can say excuse me Okay, excuse 731 00:48:09,810 --> 00:48:12,330 me talk to my lawyer I mean my blog tag yeah look 732 00:48:12,330 --> 00:48:14,310 at it look at it people can't you read 733 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:21,660 just cinema screenshot Okay, so the the the in more tag talk 734 00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:23,250 here the generator tag? 735 00:48:23,790 --> 00:48:24,780 Yes. 736 00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:31,560 I heard Andy's feelings this week. Andy. Yeah, Andy layman. 737 00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:36,960 Oh, what did you do? I turned his lemon creations generator 738 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,910 reference back in overrode it back to WordPress and he and it 739 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:45,990 hurt his feelings. But so what I did was don't understand. Yeah, 740 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:51,150 no, I know that makes no sense. So there's I don't understand 741 00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:55,290 this okay. So somebody didn't knows about WordPress needs to 742 00:48:55,290 --> 00:49:01,230 tell me what the crap is going on with these with with the way 743 00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:07,800 WordPress does the generator tag let me pull one up so I can 744 00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:13,530 look inside the generator tag an existing tag? 745 00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:16,440 Yeah, yeah, it's an art it's missing the original original 746 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:25,020 RSS. Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna pull up new media show here. And here 747 00:49:25,020 --> 00:49:29,130 we go. I'm gonna pull up their feed. And this is this is what I 748 00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:36,360 see in their feed. It has a generator tag. This is a word 749 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:43,980 that is just list wordpress.com. And then they also have this 750 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:51,600 weird like, commented out. It's like he's got a little like, 751 00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:55,050 less than son exclamation point dash dash. You know that that 752 00:49:55,050 --> 00:49:59,970 HTML comment. Oh, yeah. And it's got it's one of the lightest 753 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,250 starts with that. And then it says podcast underscore 754 00:50:02,250 --> 00:50:08,190 generator equals blueberry space power press slash the version 755 00:50:08,190 --> 00:50:12,090 number or whatever. And then close comment. So it's like it 756 00:50:12,090 --> 00:50:17,340 has. It's a, it's its own. It's a different generator tag, but 757 00:50:17,340 --> 00:50:24,420 it's commented out. And I don't understand why that happens. But 758 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,140 because I can't but but normally, I can't parse that 759 00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:34,050 because it's a comment. Mill, it doesn't see it. Okay. Yeah. So 760 00:50:34,050 --> 00:50:37,410 what what I'm trying to do is do proper attribution. I'm trying 761 00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:41,550 to say, Okay, here's how many feeds. So this applies to cast 762 00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:46,800 cast O's, and blueberry. Because they have these, you know, a 763 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,740 vast fleet of these WordPress plug in podcast generators, like 764 00:50:52,740 --> 00:50:56,160 to the to the tune of 10s of 1000s of these things. So that's 765 00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,030 potentially, I mean, I think I'm gonna give blanket numbers, I 766 00:51:00,030 --> 00:51:02,760 think each one of them have probably about 30,000 of these. 767 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,680 So that's 660 1000 which is not an insignificant number of 768 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,180 podcasts being hosted on WordPress with their plugins. 769 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:18,600 And I want to I want to properly know within the index that this 770 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,500 podcast is being generated by power press, not WordPress, I 771 00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:26,490 see yet or seriously simple podcasting plugin, not 772 00:51:26,490 --> 00:51:33,390 WordPress. So I changed to do a quick like just an int a an 773 00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:38,010 index of you know, if index of podcast underscore generator 774 00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:42,960 equal greater than negative one and I just get pull that string 775 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:49,170 out before I do the XML parse. Grab that if that and then so 776 00:51:49,170 --> 00:51:53,820 that later, I can override the WordPress thing, the WordPress 777 00:51:53,820 --> 00:52:00,240 generator tag with the proper generator string. And by doing 778 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:06,630 that, I Andy, Andy's Lehmann creations podcast WordPress 779 00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:10,080 plugin it properly says the generator tag to Lehmann 780 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,370 creations and so I accidentally and so by doing that I clobbered 781 00:52:14,370 --> 00:52:14,850 him because I 782 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,660 finally understand what the problem sorry. 783 00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:22,860 But see, but I don't understand I need I need a PA. I need a 784 00:52:22,860 --> 00:52:27,390 WordPress guru to explain to me why AMD is able to properly set 785 00:52:27,390 --> 00:52:31,170 his generator tag and everybody else does this weird thing with 786 00:52:31,170 --> 00:52:36,000 the comment with the comment. What's the point of that? Why 787 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,560 can't Why can't they do it the right way? 788 00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:42,450 I know it's people, man. People do annoying shit. 789 00:52:43,260 --> 00:52:49,680 Okay. There's a long way to go. But but I need it. I need this. 790 00:52:49,710 --> 00:52:51,480 I need this. God telling me why 791 00:52:51,540 --> 00:52:54,600 but and just so I understand you need it because you just need to 792 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,840 know what's coming from where just for all kinds of other 793 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,320 stuff. 794 00:52:58,740 --> 00:53:02,160 I need it. Well, I need to know that my code is doing something 795 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,020 right. Like is there something else? If there's something I'm 796 00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:11,160 missing here? Then I may be I may have coded around a problem 797 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,730 that doesn't exist. I just need somebody to explain it to me so 798 00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:17,130 I can understand that what I'm doing is actually legitimate. 799 00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:17,700 Got it? 800 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,020 I finally upgraded my Umbral 801 00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:25,230 How did you get that to happen? 802 00:53:25,470 --> 00:53:32,700 This sucked this really wow balls so I have two umbrellas 803 00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,570 one is running on old on the surface. That's actually the one 804 00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:39,150 that runs the booster grams. I have not attempted an upgrade on 805 00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:42,690 that because that's kind of the production machine. You know 806 00:53:42,690 --> 00:53:45,420 when that's offline, the first thing that happens is I get Chad 807 00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:49,140 F and comic strip blogger telling me that podcasting sucks 808 00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:55,860 and doesn't work. Actually, Jeff is like the canary in the coal 809 00:53:55,860 --> 00:54:01,050 mine. Hey, you're not accepting sad sums down rip rip rip. It's 810 00:54:01,050 --> 00:54:05,610 the best alert emoji. Yes, the best. That's how I know it's 811 00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:06,960 broken is Chad F. 812 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,690 That's how I know when pa things broken because Brian tells me 813 00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:10,260 all right. 814 00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:15,750 So I was just trying to get from Oh, from Oh dot four dot 18 I 815 00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:20,880 guess two O dot five dot O, which is a significant kind of 816 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,180 half upgrade for them. But it's, you know, this change in the way 817 00:54:24,180 --> 00:54:27,090 to do the app stores. And I wanted to reinstall IPFS 818 00:54:27,090 --> 00:54:30,570 because, you know, that new app is dependent upon the new 819 00:54:30,570 --> 00:54:32,640 structure. And so there's just one of these things that kept 820 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,480 pushing off and this morning was the morning and I decided to use 821 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,730 the one that is the Bitcoin machines which we talked about 822 00:54:38,730 --> 00:54:42,120 on the last show, which is you know, it's the one that comes 823 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,420 from the factory. And it's like the you should not have to open 824 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:49,170 this up. Well, I did because whatever I did, and it's funny 825 00:54:49,170 --> 00:54:54,630 to look at Umbral help websites and bump into Cridland and you 826 00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:58,680 and all kinds Brian of London, like are we 827 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,890 all just stupid is that problem there is only us 828 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,490 clearly the path has been beaten before me and like, oh, okay, so 829 00:55:05,490 --> 00:55:08,100 I'm not the only guy who hasn't been able to figure this out. So 830 00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:11,520 what I wound up doing is I wound up reflashing, the OS, which is 831 00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:16,290 on, which is pretty easy on the Bitcoin machine, the standard 832 00:55:16,290 --> 00:55:20,130 housing and this Raspberry Pi, because it uses the SD card, 833 00:55:20,130 --> 00:55:23,580 which I have to actually use needle nose pliers to get it 834 00:55:23,580 --> 00:55:30,150 out. Who Oh, because it's well, it's behind the front of the of 835 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:33,150 the in casing. And so you can't really get your fingers in 836 00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:37,590 there. And now, of course, that so I've reflashed it, it comes 837 00:55:37,590 --> 00:55:40,140 back up and says it's been updated when it hasn't, we've 838 00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:44,730 all seen this. And then I did update again. And then it took 839 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,720 and everything worked. Now, I have I also turned off my 840 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,380 raspberry my pie hole and I unhooked tail scale thinking 841 00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:59,190 that might have made a difference. I don't know. The 842 00:55:59,190 --> 00:56:05,250 bummer now is of course this so I've got the the stock OS which 843 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,180 which I downloaded from the get Umbral website. But now the 844 00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:12,480 display doesn't work, because this is probably some extra 845 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,380 stuff that Bitcoin machine guys put in or whatever. Just doesn't 846 00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:21,180 work. So yeah, anyway, it does work. And I found a cool app, 847 00:56:21,180 --> 00:56:25,470 which I told you about, which is Oak was oak tree, oak node oak 848 00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:28,920 node, the thing you've been building for months. Yeah, the 849 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,160 thing 850 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,680 that totally sure lost my cron job. Yeah, that's 851 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,790 the well, if you look at this thing, it creates cron jobs. 852 00:56:36,450 --> 00:56:40,110 That's all it does. Yes. The front end for cron job. You have 853 00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:45,330 an input like 144 If you want it to be a one day interval. Oh, 854 00:56:45,330 --> 00:56:45,930 funny. 855 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,310 So this thing creates it calls it creates a cron job that calls 856 00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:54,210 ln CLI to send the payment. Yes, sir. That's exactly what I do. 857 00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:57,690 I know. They put a handsome interface on top of it. 858 00:56:58,950 --> 00:57:02,400 Oh, man doesn't have a handsome interface. It's just got it. 859 00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:03,960 It's just Nano. 860 00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:08,250 Nano, man vi at 861 00:57:08,250 --> 00:57:12,660 least come on out here with you via baby No, Max. 862 00:57:12,660 --> 00:57:14,370 Come on. Cord me bitch. Let's go 863 00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:20,220 man Oh, 864 00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:25,410 I can't believe you day. You went through all that and then 865 00:57:25,410 --> 00:57:26,400 broke the screen. 866 00:57:27,150 --> 00:57:30,060 Yeah, that's disappointing. It really well. I'm going to reboot 867 00:57:30,060 --> 00:57:33,420 it and then see if by magic that comes but I ran out of time for 868 00:57:33,420 --> 00:57:35,910 like, okay, it's working at least it for now. It's working. 869 00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:39,510 And yeah, beautifully brought out sync the chain, got my 870 00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:42,900 channels back. So all of that stuff. That was quite amazing. 871 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,990 And it is very pretty. The new version is beautiful. 872 00:57:46,260 --> 00:57:50,070 Oh, it's dynamite. It's dynamite. I don't I'm still on 873 00:57:50,070 --> 00:57:53,520 4.18 Because I don't know what I honestly don't know what to do 874 00:57:53,550 --> 00:57:56,100 to get because I don't. The problem is you people can 875 00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,690 flatter SD cards and 876 00:57:57,690 --> 00:58:00,540 still see that's the next that's the next machine I have to do. I 877 00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:03,150 don't have an SD card. So I'm not sure what to do on that one. 878 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:10,080 It's all is on that one is your I think it's like my problem is 879 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,880 that my partition that holds the blockchain chain files to the 880 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:20,340 400 gigabytes of Bitcoin blockchain is the same partition 881 00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:23,400 the same volume that holds lightning the hole excuse me, 882 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,840 the holes the Umbral route. Oh, 883 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,900 I bet I did exactly the same. 884 00:58:28,649 --> 00:58:33,539 And so if you if that's the case, then when it makes that 885 00:58:33,569 --> 00:58:35,939 the backup of the onboard directory is going to be backing 886 00:58:35,939 --> 00:58:39,839 up your whole blockchain just like it did with me and you're 887 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:40,829 gonna run out of space. 888 00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:44,730 Man, I feel 889 00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:48,300 like what I'm gonna have to do is shut every like, click. I 890 00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:51,840 feel like this is the scenario. Turn off all stop all the Docker 891 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,940 services. Yeah. Move the blockchain move the blockchain 892 00:58:56,970 --> 00:58:58,200 files over. 893 00:58:59,070 --> 00:59:00,630 This is what you did last time. 894 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,610 No, no, but I'm going to No, no. 895 00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:05,280 This is a great experiment. 896 00:59:05,610 --> 00:59:08,370 No, this is a tear. No, no, I'm not doing it the same way I did 897 00:59:08,370 --> 00:59:10,680 last time. That was that was janked up and that was horrible. 898 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:16,080 Okay. nesbit's would be much better. Create, put in a set a 899 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,640 second drive by one terabyte drive. Move the blockchain files 900 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,770 over to it manually, right. Didn't mount it as a separate 901 00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:31,320 volume. And then and then try it again. A shadow? No, I don't 902 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:31,890 understand how 903 00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:36,210 that sounds. It's really too bad. I mean, because this a lot 904 00:59:36,210 --> 00:59:40,080 of the early adopters who are just like me adopters, not not 905 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,500 super smart. Did a lot of this stuff. You know, this is my 906 00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,060 first experience with Docker and 907 00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:52,350 speaking of speaking of Docker, it's it's fantastic when it 908 00:59:52,350 --> 00:59:56,010 comes to pod paying it has. It has made me a firm believer in 909 00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:59,460 that for sure. Oh, really? Yeah, we did. We just did an upgrade 910 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:04,200 and I'm Alex bouschet, I'm a version 1.25. I think we have 911 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:09,870 the memory, the memory leak problem licked. So the issue 912 01:00:09,870 --> 01:00:18,600 there, as we, as we understand it currently, is that the, it's 913 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,990 not that it wasn't a memory leak, it wasn't actually a 914 01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:27,570 memory leak. So, you know, the way the the way that the OS 915 01:00:27,570 --> 01:00:33,870 memory manager tends to work is, you know, if you if you attempt 916 01:00:33,870 --> 01:00:36,150 is your if your software attempts to allocate some memory 917 01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:42,000 malloc, or whatever process is using, if it asks for memory, 918 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,230 the OS will give it some, and then the software can say, Okay, 919 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:49,800 I'm done with this memory, I'm gonna free it. And it can give 920 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,620 it back. Well, there's various flags that you can set when you 921 01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:57,240 give it back. And one of those flags in this case, I think it's 922 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,410 like mad V underscore free or something like that. It will, 923 01:01:01,410 --> 01:01:04,710 the effect it has is it says, Okay, I'm done with this memory, 924 01:01:05,070 --> 01:01:11,670 the operating system can have it back. But for some reason, no. 925 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,930 But I don't necessarily, I may need it again, or something, 926 01:01:15,930 --> 01:01:21,000 something along those terms. Well, this certain flag when it 927 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,780 sees that the operating system says, Okay, I see that I can use 928 01:01:24,780 --> 01:01:27,420 this memory again, but I'm not going to necessarily reclaim it 929 01:01:27,420 --> 01:01:30,870 right now. I'm just going to leave it out there. And with the 930 01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:33,570 idea that if you if the system ever comes under memory 931 01:01:33,570 --> 01:01:37,500 pressure, then it will go get that stuff. It's like, okay, I 932 01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:39,930 know, I've got a bunch of memory over here I can use but I'm not 933 01:01:39,930 --> 01:01:42,930 going to bother with right now. And it's like, oh, I'm running 934 01:01:42,930 --> 01:01:45,630 low on memory, I'll go get that. I'll go get that. Right. 935 01:01:46,410 --> 01:01:51,630 Evidently, the containers, the Docker containers, somehow 936 01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:56,880 obscure that process or make that process unreliable, so that 937 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,990 the freed memory doesn't necessarily get reclaimed 938 01:02:00,990 --> 01:02:05,700 properly, even under memory pressure. Okay. And so what what 939 01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:09,570 he did was he switched it, he switched the Docker container to 940 01:02:09,570 --> 01:02:12,690 use a different Python interpreter. And we think that 941 01:02:12,690 --> 01:02:14,610 that's all the problem. Like it's been running for a long 942 01:02:14,610 --> 01:02:17,730 time. Now, what was happening is like, within a few hours, it 943 01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:21,420 would be up like almost run out of memory. And now it looks like 944 01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:24,510 the memory is just kind of rock solid at around. 300 300. Meg's. 945 01:02:25,470 --> 01:02:29,220 Anyway, that's, I think, sh and upgrading with the Docker was 946 01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:34,050 like, I mean, it took like five seconds. It was awesome. Yes, 947 01:02:34,050 --> 01:02:35,490 I'm a believer on that now. 948 01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:40,860 Yeah, I'm looking at my disk I have about I'm using about 60% 949 01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:43,110 of that one terabyte so I'm not gonna be able to do it. 950 01:02:44,340 --> 01:02:46,890 Yeah, we got to figure out a proper solution to this problem. 951 01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,430 Because yeah, I literally can't upgrade and if I can't upgrade, 952 01:02:50,430 --> 01:02:52,920 I can't develop Ella Pat anymore. Right? Umbral, 953 01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:55,920 right? Right? Right? Yeah, they don't they don't seem to have 954 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,770 they don't seem to have a good fix for for the non standard 955 01:02:58,770 --> 01:03:03,540 install. Okay, just reinstall it over it. Was that fucked 956 01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:04,140 everything up? 957 01:03:05,370 --> 01:03:08,580 I think that's part of what I did last time it went went 958 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,330 berserk. 959 01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:14,460 Quickly, Dame Jennifer will be on in the board meeting in the 960 01:03:14,460 --> 01:03:16,170 next two weeks, I guess. 961 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,680 Oh, yes. Next week. So next week is next 962 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,770 week. Yeah. Damn, Jennifer has raised her hand to coordinate 963 01:03:22,770 --> 01:03:25,650 the hackathon. And her first question was what's a hackathon? 964 01:03:28,140 --> 01:03:30,750 That's exactly who you want running your hackathon. Yes. 965 01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:36,570 Perfect. It should be perfect. Yeah. We'll get some it'll be 966 01:03:36,570 --> 01:03:41,190 fun to have her on. Here we need to we use she's a user she's a 967 01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:44,970 user she a user of this stuff. What I mean by that is of course 968 01:03:44,970 --> 01:03:50,220 she creates animated no agenda. So she's deep into bitcoin 969 01:03:50,250 --> 01:03:52,800 understands all this stuff. She'll she'll say she doesn't 970 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,430 but she does. 971 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:59,760 She does. Yeah. What's what's? What's her? What's her day job? 972 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,640 Marketing? Like promotion? 973 01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:08,610 You know, I'm not sure she. I know she. I'm not sure right 974 01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:08,880 now. 975 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,640 I guess that's what we think she's I think she's 976 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,550 independently wealthy. She's probably like a vie Countess or 977 01:04:14,550 --> 01:04:15,120 something. 978 01:04:15,540 --> 01:04:16,620 Like this. 979 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,190 She's she's got like old British money. 980 01:04:21,420 --> 01:04:24,030 Okay. Does she have goats and chickens in her castle? 981 01:04:24,060 --> 01:04:27,510 No, I don't know. I don't. I don't think she does. She lives 982 01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:30,150 kind of on the Qt on the DL. You know, it's like, don't want 983 01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:31,290 anyone though. Yeah. 984 01:04:31,530 --> 01:04:34,320 She hasn't. He has an island in the right off the Charleston 985 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:34,800 coast. I 986 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,840 sure hope so. You have guest rooms. Just the next question. 987 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:49,350 Rooms actually. Did we talk about trending last time? Yeah. 988 01:04:49,770 --> 01:04:54,630 About trending podcasts. You know, there's there's always, 989 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,650 you know, we have the most recent what endpoint do we have 990 01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:03,420 on the API which tells you what it's like our trending API 991 01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:04,260 endpoint or I 992 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,990 think that's what it's called. I think it's just rendering. 993 01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:11,370 Yeah. So it always tickles me to see people say, Well, you know, 994 01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:14,970 it's a very black box over there podcast index, that training 995 01:05:14,970 --> 01:05:18,180 thing. We don't know how that works. And we don't like boss. 996 01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:21,870 Yeah. And the reason why is because these all of these 997 01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:26,760 Rancors, which I'd never heard before, is that a British 998 01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:28,710 version of rank a ranking? 999 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,350 Whenever I hear that, hear it in my head spelled SEO or 1000 01:05:34,410 --> 01:05:40,350 Oh, yeah. rank or exactly. So it's a rancor, which are 1001 01:05:40,350 --> 01:05:43,470 completely meaningless. Because everything's game a bowl. And 1002 01:05:43,470 --> 01:05:46,680 everyone's known this for so long. And this, everyone's using 1003 01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:51,000 weird data, like number of subscribes versus unsubscribes? 1004 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,520 And, you know, maybe some people some download that, I don't 1005 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,960 know. But why don't we just do it by, you know, and we can only 1006 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,080 do it for value for value, but we could have an interesting 1007 01:06:01,110 --> 01:06:07,230 overview of people who have received the most streaming 1008 01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:11,190 transactions, not the amount, but the number of transactions. 1009 01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:16,440 And since we receive 1%, we should be able to track that. 1010 01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:21,690 Was that a data exercise that puts the fear of God into you? 1011 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:30,660 It doesn't make me afraid. But they are in different places. 1012 01:06:31,740 --> 01:06:39,840 The the 1% data is in the node, right? Not in the index 1013 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:45,420 database. Correct. But it can be pulled, yes. Okay, so 1014 01:06:45,630 --> 01:06:48,990 and the reason why is because then you can see who has people 1015 01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:54,150 listen to them, actually listening. This will be a great, 1016 01:06:54,180 --> 01:06:57,240 this will be a great stat to have. And you can say, you know, 1017 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,460 here's we can just do minutes listened. 1018 01:07:01,020 --> 01:07:03,900 I had a really great conversation this week with 1019 01:07:04,950 --> 01:07:10,620 Alberto from lorises.com, we were talking about stats, we had 1020 01:07:10,620 --> 01:07:14,760 a phone call. And he was just bringing helping me brainstorm 1021 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:19,140 some better ways to do the stats. So this is actually 1022 01:07:19,140 --> 01:07:23,970 really, really timely, because I'm going I want to get rid of 1023 01:07:23,970 --> 01:07:27,720 that stats page, on the thing that on the website on the 1024 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,080 muddiest index side, this shows like, post submitted fees, a 1025 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,380 number of them and all of this horrible, horrible needs to go. 1026 01:07:34,380 --> 01:07:37,080 It's just it's a piece of garbage and needs to go away. 1027 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,180 I wouldn't mind right there having a number of minutes. 1028 01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:43,200 Listen today. 1029 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,450 So that's what I'm thinking is maybe. So he encouraged he said, 1030 01:07:48,450 --> 01:07:52,920 Hey, here's what he says, here's what I suggest. I suggest that 1031 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,190 you There's already people doing stats, people like John Spurlock 1032 01:07:56,940 --> 01:08:01,110 and, and Daniel J. Lewis has a podcast industry and size as 1033 01:08:01,290 --> 01:08:05,040 other people out there doing staff. You don't necessarily 1034 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:11,010 want to be in the stats game, right? So he suggested to just 1035 01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:17,100 do some sort of score. And the score would be something very 1036 01:08:17,610 --> 01:08:22,830 vanilla and understandable. And so that and then other than 1037 01:08:22,830 --> 01:08:26,490 that, we just give give out the raw data, or huh, and then let 1038 01:08:26,490 --> 01:08:30,420 people compile it into different versions of the way they want 1039 01:08:30,420 --> 01:08:36,330 to. And one of those one of those scores could be number of 1040 01:08:36,330 --> 01:08:38,670 first stream Sheriff ministry. 1041 01:08:38,699 --> 01:08:46,679 Do you have minute stream number of I presume, can we see? Can we 1042 01:08:46,679 --> 01:08:50,009 see if payments are coming from the same sender? Well, I guess 1043 01:08:50,009 --> 01:08:52,109 technically, if they have if they put an alias in or 1044 01:08:52,109 --> 01:08:55,649 something, I guess. It's not very, it's not machine readable? 1045 01:08:55,649 --> 01:08:58,799 Yeah. Not machine readable. But you know, for me, it's just I 1046 01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:01,559 just like to know how many people and of course, it's only 1047 01:09:01,559 --> 01:09:04,499 gonna be valued for value. But you know, doesn't matter if I 1048 01:09:04,499 --> 01:09:07,679 have 10 this week, and I have 20 Next week, reasonable assumption 1049 01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:11,129 is have gone up. And then the next thing I'd like to know 1050 01:09:11,129 --> 01:09:15,059 maybe this is more a hosting company statistic is where 1051 01:09:15,059 --> 01:09:18,059 people boost and we I think we've been through this, right, 1052 01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:23,369 it almost shows itself what it wants to be no timeline, 1053 01:09:23,369 --> 01:09:28,499 its game, even if it's a game of all. The podcasters getting paid 1054 01:09:28,499 --> 01:09:29,189 to be gamed, 1055 01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:33,930 oh, horrible. What a bad thing. But I mean, but you know, just 1056 01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:36,810 I'd love to start messing around with it. See what comes out of 1057 01:09:36,810 --> 01:09:39,120 there. And might be fun. 1058 01:09:39,629 --> 01:09:46,739 So the trending endpoint in API to decide to dispel the black 1059 01:09:46,739 --> 01:09:55,109 box is, is very simple. We just take it's very crude. We take 1060 01:09:55,109 --> 01:10:02,969 the known API keys from apps from actual apps, not just 1061 01:10:02,969 --> 01:10:07,439 randos, right? So you know, okay, we know pod versus an app 1062 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,949 podcast Guru is an app, curio, casters, and and blah, blah, 1063 01:10:10,949 --> 01:10:17,669 blah, we take those app keys. And we will, at the end of every 1064 01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:22,619 day, there's a batch job that runs through and checks how many 1065 01:10:22,619 --> 01:10:28,859 times those known took API tokens, have asked for have 1066 01:10:28,859 --> 01:10:36,659 asked for the episode list of a podcast. Meaning, that's how 1067 01:10:36,659 --> 01:10:39,869 many times that somebody on their app has been interested in 1068 01:10:39,869 --> 01:10:45,749 this podcast, okay, enough to call the API. Okay, and we just 1069 01:10:45,749 --> 01:10:50,429 count that number of things up to a certain limit. It's like an 1070 01:10:50,429 --> 01:10:56,039 integer, I think it's like three to 55 or some. There's a roll 1071 01:10:56,039 --> 01:10:59,609 count. And then we just sort it in reverse order when we hand it 1072 01:10:59,609 --> 01:11:05,099 back. So the trending tag really is just interest, just a as the 1073 01:11:05,099 --> 01:11:08,099 number of entity as the amount of interest from the abs for a 1074 01:11:08,099 --> 01:11:15,209 particular podcast. And it's not it's not I guess you can game it 1075 01:11:15,209 --> 01:11:19,319 by getting in there in like, trying to refresh your podcast 1076 01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:22,769 or something over and over and over. But yes, it's the most 1077 01:11:24,389 --> 01:11:28,259 stable thing that we have, because we don't we don't have 1078 01:11:28,259 --> 01:11:31,979 listenings. That's, I mean, we don't know. So that's like, the 1079 01:11:31,979 --> 01:11:34,889 best thing I could come up with. But this other thing, like I 1080 01:11:34,889 --> 01:11:37,709 could see putting, like a little URL parameter on the end of the, 1081 01:11:38,339 --> 01:11:40,529 of the, the endpoint call where you can say, okay, which 1082 01:11:40,529 --> 01:11:41,909 algorithm Do you want to use? 1083 01:11:41,909 --> 01:11:42,989 Right, there you go. 1084 01:11:43,770 --> 01:11:45,690 Do you want to let use lightning? Or do you want to use 1085 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,290 there you go default? Would that work? 1086 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,560 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think we just need to experiment see, 1087 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,730 what kind of data we get out of out of the node and what how we 1088 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,670 how we can parse that and what what what we come up with it 1089 01:11:59,670 --> 01:12:02,430 might be very, might be very interesting. 1090 01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:05,580 Yeah, cuz I can see if some people wanting one is some 1091 01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:07,980 people want it like breeze probably wants the they probably 1092 01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:11,970 want the lightning stuff, of course. But then, like a regular 1093 01:12:11,970 --> 01:12:14,520 podcast app, they doesn't implement it for value. They may 1094 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,330 not care as much about that. Yeah, May. Maybe they blend it. 1095 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,110 Maybe eventually 1096 01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:21,540 everyone's going to be valued for value. Just wait until the 1097 01:12:21,540 --> 01:12:25,260 advertising market collapses upon itself. It's all going it's 1098 01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:26,910 all trending that way. Dave Jones, 1099 01:12:27,180 --> 01:12:29,850 but this is the summer of programmatic. Everything. 1100 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,670 Builders have been told we're 1101 01:12:32,670 --> 01:12:37,950 builders we're building what is it? bear markets are for 1102 01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:38,610 building 1103 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,440 them? I haven't heard that. Yeah. 1104 01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:45,480 bear markets are for building Yeah, 1105 01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:50,010 you're gonna build stuff with no money. I can't say that we 1106 01:12:50,010 --> 01:12:54,030 did. Speaking of such let's thank some people for supporting 1107 01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:59,400 this value for value project is value for value podcast. The way 1108 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,590 we operate here as if you've been listening. We only run on 1109 01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:07,710 the value that we provide. And people send that back to us in 1110 01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:10,530 many ways time, talent and treasure. We do need real 1111 01:13:10,530 --> 01:13:12,900 treasure to keep everything running. Let me see if we got 1112 01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:16,980 any I didn't get a lot of lit booster grams today. Although 1113 01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:24,930 12345 12,345 SAS from hard hat. Thank you very much hard hat. I 1114 01:13:24,930 --> 01:13:30,780 see a lot of test booths from pod verse. Nice. Yes, I see 1000 1115 01:13:30,780 --> 01:13:34,230 here but no, no name or anything. I'm not quite sure 1116 01:13:34,230 --> 01:13:38,790 where that's coming from. Another 1000 from I think Mitch 1117 01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:43,980 is just he's he's working. And then I think the live the pre 1118 01:13:43,980 --> 01:13:47,850 boost started off with blueberry 1776. So there's he said snip 1119 01:13:47,850 --> 01:13:53,490 first. Yes, that's our boost for right now. You can support us in 1120 01:13:53,490 --> 01:13:56,100 multiple ways. Go to podcast index.org. At the bottom, you'll 1121 01:13:56,100 --> 01:14:00,690 see a donate button. You can send SATs on chain. I'll check 1122 01:14:00,690 --> 01:14:04,290 the tally coin to see if anything came in. Of course we 1123 01:14:04,290 --> 01:14:07,740 have a Pay Pal and we love it when you use a podcast app from 1124 01:14:07,740 --> 01:14:12,960 new podcast app.com. And boost us amounts boost us survival 1125 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:13,980 cash, please. 1126 01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:19,350 There must be there must be like a concert going on or a football 1127 01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:22,020 game because there is not very much activity in 1128 01:14:22,020 --> 01:14:23,610 the chat room is weird, isn't it? 1129 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,700 It is weird. Is it just the end? Oh. Oh, I wonder if 1130 01:14:29,729 --> 01:14:31,259 is there some kind of Apple event? 1131 01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:35,400 Is that possible? But I wonder if there's some I wonder if it's 1132 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,550 because school is starting back? Windows Desktop people 1133 01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:39,420 discombobulated 1134 01:14:39,810 --> 01:14:42,150 have an effect. It's possible. It's possible. 1135 01:14:42,330 --> 01:14:45,150 This is the time this is the time of year. I mean our kids 1136 01:14:45,150 --> 01:14:53,070 start back next week. We got some we got zero weekly. Pay 1137 01:14:53,070 --> 01:14:55,980 fails. None. Nada. 1138 01:14:56,159 --> 01:15:02,309 I see here. I'm looking at we got 21 on 21 on tally coin, 1139 01:15:02,309 --> 01:15:09,299 4001 33 and 20,001 40 none of which are attributable to a name 1140 01:15:09,299 --> 01:15:16,529 which is too bad and just in from lavish is 9999 99 around an 1141 01:15:16,529 --> 01:15:19,079 owner survival cash he says thank you very much. 1142 01:15:19,319 --> 01:15:23,519 Thank you lavish Bucha that he appreciate we've I will go ahead 1143 01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,639 and read the monthlies on the Pay Pal just because because we 1144 01:15:26,639 --> 01:15:31,859 don't have any other papers. So, straight out the gate pod verse, 1145 01:15:32,039 --> 01:15:38,879 LLC $50 versus the progress team. Alice gets $25 Thank you 1146 01:15:38,879 --> 01:15:45,719 podcasts consultant, Lauren ball $24.20 mich Downey also he of 1147 01:15:45,719 --> 01:15:51,329 pod verse $10. Thank you, sir. Christopher hora, Barak $10. 1148 01:15:51,899 --> 01:15:56,789 Jeremy Kevin all $10 Terry Keller, $5 sore, you're on 1149 01:15:56,789 --> 01:16:02,849 hugger Mueller $5 Chris cow and $5 and Jeffrey Brentford. $5. 1150 01:16:02,849 --> 01:16:03,809 That's our monthlies. Thank you. 1151 01:16:03,989 --> 01:16:07,889 Thank you all very much. Now, time to see how the booths are 1152 01:16:07,889 --> 01:16:08,369 doing. 1153 01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:15,600 We have got from George Orwell 1555 stats and he says go 1154 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:16,290 podcasting 1155 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,080 got a podcast. Thank you. 1156 01:16:21,150 --> 01:16:25,680 Mike Dell from blueberry gave us 2500 SAS and he also says go 1157 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:33,840 podcasting go podcast. Work Karen, our buddy for the memoirs 1158 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,160 podcast through Felton, he gave us 4321 says he says boosting 1159 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,740 for all the incredible queueing systems around the world. 1160 01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:42,450 queuing, queuing, 1161 01:16:42,449 --> 01:16:44,819 queuing. queuing. What does that mean? I don't know. 1162 01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:48,090 Boost boost. But I'll we'll take it Thank you, Karen. 1163 01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:52,980 Oh, okay. He comes in with another 4321 through fountaining 1164 01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:55,500 says boosting for the International V for V realized, 1165 01:16:56,190 --> 01:16:59,070 Hey, we are living the international the New 1166 01:16:59,070 --> 01:17:03,060 International lifestyle of value for value. Boost. That's right 1167 01:17:03,060 --> 01:17:05,550 there. You got it. He's living it too. 1168 01:17:06,150 --> 01:17:13,620 He is tota in Brisbane and Joel w 96 sets. And the reason I read 1169 01:17:13,620 --> 01:17:16,830 this was below the 1000 sat limit but I've read it because 1170 01:17:16,830 --> 01:17:20,730 he said episode 96 approximately 96 minutes in length. 1171 01:17:20,940 --> 01:17:22,140 Coincidence? 1172 01:17:22,170 --> 01:17:24,990 I think not a bombshell 1173 01:17:25,949 --> 01:17:31,109 Satoshis dot stream sued to have a web version. Send us 5552 SAS 1174 01:17:31,109 --> 01:17:32,999 through fountain with a smiley face emoji. 1175 01:17:33,060 --> 01:17:34,590 Oh, thank you very much. 1176 01:17:35,250 --> 01:17:38,820 Oh, wait another five another 5550 to three from Satoshis data 1177 01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:41,970 stream. He says. You said no one has done a graph of boosts and 1178 01:17:41,970 --> 01:17:45,750 listens over time. We had that since the start. It's all in the 1179 01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:49,110 export nice grass per episode even boosts per chapter if your 1180 01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:52,890 podcast has chapters. I stand 100%. Correct. And you know, 1181 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,480 that is exactly right. I forgot 1182 01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:57,750 they had that. I would love to see that on a web version. 1183 01:17:58,380 --> 01:18:01,500 It's dynamite. Maybe they have a web version is ended. Now. They 1184 01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:03,900 have a web version, it will be as hard to get to through the 1185 01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:04,380 telegram. 1186 01:18:04,409 --> 01:18:06,569 Yeah. And then you know, because what I'd love to do is I'd love 1187 01:18:06,569 --> 01:18:10,109 to put it in the split now. And I can see how it shows up there. 1188 01:18:10,109 --> 01:18:12,449 Absolutely. I'm looking forward to your web version. 1189 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:21,420 Boost. This. This is the in the V for V. System. And I'm 1190 01:18:21,420 --> 01:18:24,900 assuming you're going to talk about this as a key component. 1191 01:18:25,740 --> 01:18:29,490 In your part of the Podcast Movement talk is you must 1192 01:18:30,090 --> 01:18:33,360 occasionally at least once per show, say something that's wrong 1193 01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:35,670 on purpose so that people 1194 01:18:36,030 --> 01:18:41,130 can correct you and boost us. Yes. It's content programming. 1195 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,720 Yes. Very, very, very good. 1196 01:18:43,409 --> 01:18:46,979 Another boost from Satoshi string 5552. He says Jack 1197 01:18:46,979 --> 01:18:50,549 reciter is using Satoshis dust stream to Oh, awesome. Perfect, 1198 01:18:50,580 --> 01:18:51,270 excellent. 1199 01:18:54,210 --> 01:18:57,630 Okay, here's a boost from the Polish Podcast Directory podcast 1200 01:18:57,630 --> 01:19:03,660 d dot info. Oh, now that is that is spelled P O D KASTY. dot 1201 01:19:03,660 --> 01:19:04,080 info. 1202 01:19:04,379 --> 01:19:09,299 These are the guys that gave us a whole list of podcasts that 1203 01:19:09,299 --> 01:19:10,649 weren't in our directory yet. 1204 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:16,620 The OPML gives big OPML Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. Give us a 1205 01:19:16,620 --> 01:19:17,520 Polish opium mill. 1206 01:19:18,779 --> 01:19:20,939 A Pope EML a pope Pope Ium. 1207 01:19:23,730 --> 01:19:28,470 We have. We have indexed over 7000 Polish language podcast. It 1208 01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:32,940 is 2000 more since I send sent to Dave our OPML file on October 1209 01:19:32,940 --> 01:19:37,860 2020. Thank you for saving freedom of podcasting updated 1210 01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:38,820 file is coming soon. 1211 01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:42,930 You know this. This just takes me back. Boy did I love The 1212 01:19:42,930 --> 01:19:44,400 original podcast index. 1213 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,570 I loved how that worked with the length of emails. Yeah, 1214 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,930 I mean, it wasn't really an index as much as it was a 1215 01:19:51,930 --> 01:19:55,860 directory that you could and it was nice about it. So you had 1216 01:19:55,860 --> 01:19:59,700 your OPML file and you could pretty much organize any way you 1217 01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:02,850 want. And then, you know, if you said, you could be your own top 1218 01:20:02,850 --> 01:20:06,270 level, and you'd say I want I want to organize this by 1219 01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:10,350 categories, and you'd look for someone who had done stuff with 1220 01:20:10,350 --> 01:20:13,530 aviation, and then underneath that you could put helicopters 1221 01:20:13,530 --> 01:20:16,980 or you know, Cessna us or whatever. You can kind of string 1222 01:20:16,980 --> 01:20:20,460 it together yourself. And then there was a web rendering of it. 1223 01:20:20,460 --> 01:20:23,430 I mean, I'm not I'm just waxing on. But God, I love that. I 1224 01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:28,080 still love that idea of OPML files linked together. It's so, 1225 01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:29,190 so cool. 1226 01:20:29,550 --> 01:20:33,840 Is there any type of database that does that today? Like? Is 1227 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,100 there a way that we could like, 1228 01:20:35,460 --> 01:20:38,040 well, the Freedom The Freedom controller does it remember the 1229 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,560 feet of the Freedom controller, we built the freedom controller 1230 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,130 around this is part of the the original functionality that we 1231 01:20:44,130 --> 01:20:45,030 liked so much. 1232 01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:48,810 We used to use that as an instant messages chat. This is 1233 01:20:48,810 --> 01:20:51,540 the message. Let me let me explain this to people who 1234 01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:52,260 didn't understand 1235 01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:55,950 Mary is a very fucking cool system. That of course, exactly 1236 01:20:55,950 --> 01:20:57,480 two people on earth used? 1237 01:20:57,690 --> 01:21:02,040 Yes, yes. We So imagine you have an OPML file. 1238 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,610 And people have to understand this is not just the OPML file, 1239 01:21:05,610 --> 01:21:10,620 as you might know it. Because in each node on an OPML, and 1240 01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:14,400 outline, there's attribute and that has been totally 1241 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,300 bastardized, you know, so the people with an AR an OPML, five 1242 01:21:18,330 --> 01:21:23,670 file of RSS feeds, you have like 1/16, of the functionality of 1243 01:21:23,670 --> 01:21:24,330 OPML. 1244 01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:28,830 Yeah, yeah, you, everybody thinks that OPML is just for 1245 01:21:28,830 --> 01:21:32,070 importing and exporting RSS feeds. And that's not at all. 1246 01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:35,190 That's not at all what it in fact, that's what full length, 1247 01:21:35,220 --> 01:21:38,640 that's what killed OPML it is it is a misunderstanding of what is 1248 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,110 use was dope. OPML is a full outlining markup language. And 1249 01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:48,960 one of the one of the attributes on each node is to include the 1250 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,490 URL of another OPML file, so that when you can see that when 1251 01:21:53,490 --> 01:21:58,650 you're going down and expanding the nodes of your outline, if it 1252 01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:02,130 sees a reference to the URL of another OPML file, when you 1253 01:22:02,130 --> 01:22:05,730 expand the node, it goes out and grabs all the nodes from the 1254 01:22:05,730 --> 01:22:09,150 other outline and puts them as children of the node, you just, 1255 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:10,050 you just expanded 1256 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,860 and preserved the state, which the original author of that 1257 01:22:13,890 --> 01:22:20,670 remote node saved it in. It's really, really, really cool. 1258 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,600 So what we did was, we were using it, we just had an 1259 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,840 outline, instant outline, I would instantly Yeah, and I 1260 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,350 would have I would have an OPML file and Adam would have an OPML 1261 01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:34,800 file, and we would have a master OPML file that just referenced 1262 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,800 each of the two and then every occasionally I would just 1263 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:43,770 collapse and re expand my my mind node that referenced Adams 1264 01:22:43,770 --> 01:22:47,550 OPML and all the latest stuff he wrote in his outline would come 1265 01:22:47,550 --> 01:22:50,970 into my outline. And that's how we That's how literally how we 1266 01:22:50,970 --> 01:22:52,650 communicated for like five years 1267 01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,910 then we also did the watch this this outline, so that if you 1268 01:22:56,910 --> 01:23:00,540 would updated your outline, then it would go bold in my outline, 1269 01:23:00,540 --> 01:23:03,480 so I knew there was something new and I could expand it and 1270 01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:06,540 get your new stuff. Why don't we lay it out anymore? Why don't we 1271 01:23:06,540 --> 01:23:06,840 start 1272 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,920 later you know, later what we did was put into the freedom 1273 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:15,390 controller the email thing, and if if an outline ever changed, 1274 01:23:15,540 --> 01:23:18,780 it would diff it and send you the process do the nodes that 1275 01:23:18,780 --> 01:23:21,150 obtain we did a bunch of crazy stuff man. 1276 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,380 Nothing is successful with this project. No. 1277 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,910 Coal McCormick sent us 3000 SATs through fountain nice that's 1278 01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:34,890 cool. Because you asked the way I'm able to give 2000 SATs for a 1279 01:23:34,890 --> 01:23:39,000 listen is through fountain promotion feature. Money goes in 1280 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,770 20% goes to the app rest of it is sets to give away my vision 1281 01:23:43,770 --> 01:23:47,190 is to be known as the guy who gives his audience the most sets 1282 01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:50,850 I'm doing this on the last Sunday of every month for one 1283 01:23:50,850 --> 01:23:55,590 year. Karen down did V for V episode and split focusing in 1284 01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:58,650 Split focusing on my show America plus and breaks it down 1285 01:23:58,650 --> 01:23:59,250 wonderfully. 1286 01:23:59,340 --> 01:24:02,040 Oh, okay. That's a good show. Excellent. 1287 01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:09,180 Yeah. Thanks for the explanation be be glass too soon as 1221 1288 01:24:09,180 --> 01:24:11,160 SATs through fountain you need just as boost. 1289 01:24:11,369 --> 01:24:12,869 Gotcha. Boost 1290 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:19,110 anonymous. Says 100 sasses podcasts index lb love child 1291 01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:23,940 test. I just thought that was funny. That Amy sent his 500 1292 01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:29,460 SATs and said LB is awesome. Yes it is. Bumi we know Bumi is on 1293 01:24:29,460 --> 01:24:32,250 the show last week send us 1000 SATs he says whoo What a 1294 01:24:32,250 --> 01:24:36,480 beautiful day I'm reviewing the booster gram pull request 1295 01:24:37,170 --> 01:24:41,730 all right. Oh, that's probably the booster grams from the page. 1296 01:24:42,420 --> 01:24:44,160 Is it not know 1297 01:24:45,420 --> 01:24:49,080 this? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For the for the podcast index 1298 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,470 website. Please talk about Yeah, quick update. 1299 01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:56,880 Mitch just sent a test sending 1000 SATs from pod verse mobile. 1300 01:24:56,910 --> 01:25:00,420 There we go. Oh, nice. Adam did the amount show up and LeapPad 1301 01:25:00,420 --> 01:25:03,030 correctly this time. Yes, it did. Because I was getting just 1302 01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:06,540 the split, I was getting 10 SATs instead of showing up in helipad 1303 01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:11,400 instead of 1000 SATs. Okay, that was my bug report. That bug 1304 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,220 report was ordered an hour ago and it's fixed the course. 1305 01:25:14,460 --> 01:25:17,730 podcast in 2.0. We got some scissor cuts, but it's fixed. 1306 01:25:18,330 --> 01:25:21,660 budget budget tests boost for Mitch. Thank you, Mitch. The 1307 01:25:21,660 --> 01:25:22,980 1000s 1000 Each here 1308 01:25:22,980 --> 01:25:24,870 they are boost boost boost bunch 1309 01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:32,040 of them. Brian of London since 1948 1948 says he's really 1310 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:37,620 podcast index webpage is through the podcast in this web page. 1311 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:42,360 Podcast index. Oh, cool. Yeah. Nice. He says, he says, Well, 1312 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:43,500 hello. Well, hello. 1313 01:25:43,500 --> 01:25:49,800 Well, hello. snow boots. Now what I meant was, how are you 1314 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,650 doing? Here we go. How you doing? Bucha. 1315 01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:56,850 See, dubs send us 10,101 says to the boost CLI. And he says 1316 01:25:56,850 --> 01:26:01,050 GitHub is centralized and censorship is unacceptable. Git 1317 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,140 is a decentralized protocol. But how long would it take to get 1318 01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:07,680 development going? Again, if GitHub de platformed us today, I 1319 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,610 plead the board to consider self hosting these critical services 1320 01:26:11,610 --> 01:26:16,920 at least as a backup. See, he's got that link here. Click on it. 1321 01:26:18,930 --> 01:26:19,650 You just click on it. 1322 01:26:19,710 --> 01:26:29,130 Is there not? A is there not like a Git server in the Umbral? 1323 01:26:30,930 --> 01:26:34,500 Oh, I don't know is there and you're and the only reason I 1324 01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:36,900 bring it up? Let me see the only reason I bring it up is that 1325 01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:40,950 could be kind of nice as a backup. Everyone could be could 1326 01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:43,920 run one. Let me see. Don't we have a get something I'm looking 1327 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,690 at their their athletes 1328 01:26:45,930 --> 01:26:52,890 is link is to get get T gi T EA. And what's interesting about 1329 01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:58,830 this page that I'm looking at get t.io is evidently their 1330 01:26:58,830 --> 01:26:59,130 source. 1331 01:27:00,449 --> 01:27:01,859 Gi T EA 1332 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,610 their source code is evidently hosted on GitHub. And let's 1333 01:27:07,890 --> 01:27:11,160 see, here we go. Yeah, so I can set it up right here a painless 1334 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,920 self hosted Git service and where to GitHub, Bitbucket and 1335 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:19,440 GitLab. You can fully self hosted and private and can you 1336 01:27:19,470 --> 01:27:20,310 import. 1337 01:27:22,949 --> 01:27:28,049 No, probably I am not opposed to getting to getting off GitHub. I 1338 01:27:28,049 --> 01:27:33,539 just went. I just need it to not be a barrier for people to do 1339 01:27:33,749 --> 01:27:34,589 contributions. 1340 01:27:34,620 --> 01:27:38,700 Oh, let's leave it on. Let's just leave it on GitHub and oh, 1341 01:27:38,700 --> 01:27:42,570 here mirror repository repository from GitHub. Hello. 1342 01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:46,529 Oh, okay. Okay, so that's the thing. He does it right here. 1343 01:27:46,559 --> 01:27:50,729 Yeah, you can just you can just make a backup. Yeah. On your own 1344 01:27:50,729 --> 01:27:51,359 down with that. 1345 01:27:51,359 --> 01:27:54,389 Yeah. All right. Are you gonna do it? Or do I do it? No, I'll 1346 01:27:54,389 --> 01:27:55,109 do it. Okay. 1347 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,200 I'll do it when I get my up my father. Follow up. 1348 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,670 Okay. When I get five oh, Hawaii Five. Oh. 1349 01:28:04,770 --> 01:28:10,800 Okay. Jean Everett sent us 33 333 33,333 Says who? Fountain 1350 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:11,430 fall, man. 1351 01:28:11,460 --> 01:28:15,990 He's blue. I just said Hawaii Five. Oh, yeah. I just felt like 1352 01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:22,620 I needed to play it. Come on, man. doesn't miss getting 1353 01:28:22,620 --> 01:28:27,570 pumped. How did you find that? Get ready for it. Here we go. 1354 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,970 Sorry, I just feel so good on a Friday afternoon. That's 1355 01:28:37,770 --> 01:28:40,290 me. You had that thing in your back pocket that came out of 1356 01:28:40,290 --> 01:28:44,790 nowhere. Sorry. You just said you had a cute you've had that 1357 01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:45,990 thing queued up for six months 1358 01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:48,600 waiting. Waiting for the right Friday. Yeah, that's right. 1359 01:28:48,780 --> 01:28:49,350 Exactly. 1360 01:28:49,949 --> 01:28:53,579 He says G never 333 333 says boost 1361 01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:54,480 Joe. 1362 01:28:54,810 --> 01:29:01,080 Boost. First time. First time longtime podcaster what he's 1363 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,870 trying to say here. He's got emojis sprinkled in here. I 1364 01:29:03,870 --> 01:29:06,990 don't know. Okay, first time longtime thank you for what you 1365 01:29:06,990 --> 01:29:10,920 guys are doing. You're changing the world. Oh, and hi folks. 1366 01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,350 Follow me on hive. Oh jeans a hive guy. 1367 01:29:13,380 --> 01:29:16,020 Okay. All right. Hey, Hiber nice. How you doing? Hi, Eva. 1368 01:29:16,529 --> 01:29:22,259 Thank you Jane. See Jean ever came in again with 100,000 says 1369 01:29:22,319 --> 01:29:23,639 oh 1370 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,560 shot Carla 20 blades on am Paula 1371 01:29:28,590 --> 01:29:35,670 who's this? Jean Everett boost. So he says please credit the 1372 01:29:35,670 --> 01:29:39,360 second boost for me today to the Adam curry fan page on Hive at 1373 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:40,260 Adam curry. 30 1374 01:29:40,980 --> 01:29:44,250 Oh, I have a fan page nine he did. I didn't know this. All 1375 01:29:44,250 --> 01:29:44,640 right. 1376 01:29:45,180 --> 01:29:49,800 Ps are monk born and raised and my mom spoke extremely highly of 1377 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:50,760 Eugene curry. 1378 01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:56,220 Oh, my grandfather. Come Nice. Yeah, Eugene curry. He was quite 1379 01:29:56,220 --> 01:29:59,490 the upstanding member of the community. Oh 1380 01:29:59,490 --> 01:30:02,340 my god. Bless the curry clan. I'll give more details when I 1381 01:30:02,340 --> 01:30:04,500 donate to na next. Oh, nice. 1382 01:30:04,710 --> 01:30:08,340 That's so nice. I'd love to hear about it. Yeah, I mean, my dad 1383 01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:12,690 grew up in Armand, I've been in Armonk, all my life. Visiting. 1384 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,320 My uncle 94 still lives in that house. 1385 01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:23,220 My mom is the home home base of IBM IBM. Yeah. Are they still 1386 01:30:23,220 --> 01:30:24,450 there? They still have a presence you 1387 01:30:24,449 --> 01:30:27,329 bet. Yeah. Okay, that's still that's still there. HQ. 1388 01:30:28,380 --> 01:30:33,000 Macintosh 2222 through found and he says good episode as always, 1389 01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:34,890 Macintosh. Thank you, Macintosh. 1390 01:30:38,069 --> 01:30:39,449 We love rows of ducks. 1391 01:30:40,409 --> 01:30:46,649 Brian of London in the hive Dao, send us 40,550 He says Shabbat 1392 01:30:46,649 --> 01:30:49,979 Shalom Leeroy II Vinnie be in but 1393 01:30:50,819 --> 01:30:52,799 okay, Shabbat Shalom, y'all. 1394 01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,660 That's the way you say that in Texas. 1395 01:30:57,689 --> 01:31:02,759 That's right. Well, my partner Ron Blum was a Jew from Atlanta. 1396 01:31:03,659 --> 01:31:06,929 Okay, and so, you know, I've done many Seders and stuff like 1397 01:31:06,929 --> 01:31:12,989 that at his house and it was like Shabbat Shalom, y'all got 1398 01:31:12,989 --> 01:31:14,429 any RC Cola? 1399 01:31:15,329 --> 01:31:17,579 Let, let me try that. Let me give this another shot again, 1400 01:31:17,579 --> 01:31:20,039 because I think he's trying to send Roy a message as he says, 1401 01:31:20,189 --> 01:31:23,459 Shabbat shalom. The RO ye be in bacha? 1402 01:31:24,030 --> 01:31:28,440 Oh, are we going to? Oh, I know. Yeah. Yes. Move over. I want to 1403 01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:30,990 be in those silk sheets. I think what that man 1404 01:31:32,220 --> 01:31:39,750 this is that is not appropriate. Brian. He's blueberry sent a 1405 01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:47,640 17,776 size sound and he says 148 unique geometric boosts. I 1406 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,970 don't know what that means. Wow. No, I like it. Those two grand 1407 01:31:51,330 --> 01:31:52,260 geometric 1408 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:53,280 that's a booster gram. 1409 01:31:53,279 --> 01:31:54,509 It's a puzzle gram. 1410 01:31:55,290 --> 01:32:00,090 Okay. 100 Let's start at 148 unique geometric boosts checked 1411 01:32:00,420 --> 01:32:05,760 22 different ISO boost based boost but playing just super 1412 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,390 bitchin. Dave can you channel your inner warlord of the 1413 01:32:09,390 --> 01:32:13,770 Wasteland? Hashtag humongous vibes and hit me with bring 1414 01:32:13,770 --> 01:32:15,510 forth the goat counter. 1415 01:32:17,790 --> 01:32:19,260 What exactly does he want? 1416 01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:23,640 I don't know. I think is are you wanting me to say that bring 1417 01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:30,690 forth the goat counter. I hope that's what he wanted. 1418 01:32:30,689 --> 01:32:32,339 But he's got it. That's what he got. 1419 01:32:32,939 --> 01:32:38,969 Blueberry. You're weird dude. But I love you. Scotty is Cora 1420 01:32:39,929 --> 01:32:44,159 51 SATs Van Halen boost and he says another eruption of SATs 1421 01:32:44,969 --> 01:32:45,479 bam 1422 01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:54,270 bam thank you again for another great show. I look forward each 1423 01:32:54,270 --> 01:32:56,910 week for the show and the ability to give you guys value 1424 01:32:56,910 --> 01:32:59,100 back for the excitement you give me each episode. 1425 01:32:59,130 --> 01:33:01,710 Oh, thank you. That's exactly what I love hearing. That's how 1426 01:33:01,710 --> 01:33:03,600 it works value for value in a nutshell. 1427 01:33:04,409 --> 01:33:09,299 I'd love it. 2222 from last me says Dave, presentation slides 1428 01:33:09,299 --> 01:33:12,569 in a row. Thanks to Mr. Cridland for fixing my pull request for 1429 01:33:12,569 --> 01:33:16,439 the road ducks 2220 Satoshis to booster grid to the Mr. Graham 1430 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,309 numerology page on GitHub. Yeah, Lyceum para Petros is now a 1431 01:33:20,309 --> 01:33:27,449 contributor running with scissors. Very nice. How do I 1432 01:33:28,619 --> 01:33:31,469 how do I check incoming sets from different apps my main 1433 01:33:31,469 --> 01:33:35,189 podcatcher is now fountain. But I will also use pod verse curio 1434 01:33:35,189 --> 01:33:37,979 caster caster Matic POS station breeze and boost the hill. Hi. 1435 01:33:38,609 --> 01:33:42,029 Is Ella pad easy to install for a non techie person? Could you 1436 01:33:42,029 --> 01:33:46,049 integrate Alby to Martin? Linda Scott? Well, yes, z as long as 1437 01:33:46,049 --> 01:33:51,059 you have a volume unknown role. Yeah. So even if you don't have 1438 01:33:51,059 --> 01:33:54,839 an envoy, you just have a node. It's still pretty easy. Yeah, 1439 01:33:54,930 --> 01:33:59,490 I would say the easiest way is to is to run an Umbral. And 1440 01:33:59,490 --> 01:34:06,630 then, so what I do is I make sure that my Umbral has a 1% 1441 01:34:06,630 --> 01:34:10,680 split for my podcasts, so I'm not so I'm not really receiving 1442 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:14,520 the bulk of any SATs coming in, but I'm using it for helipad 1443 01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:18,840 mainly. Okay, and then after a while, those SATs stack up and 1444 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,150 you know, you you can fill up your wallet with it. 1445 01:34:21,689 --> 01:34:28,319 He got some Jack got some scratch. If you need Martin, if 1446 01:34:28,319 --> 01:34:31,049 you need help, if you don't have an Umbral note and you have some 1447 01:34:31,109 --> 01:34:34,739 other node, and you need help with what the configuration 1448 01:34:34,739 --> 01:34:37,139 files supposed to look like for help at tell me and I will be 1449 01:34:37,139 --> 01:34:41,309 glad Yeah, boost your questions. Yes, and I will reply without 1450 01:34:41,309 --> 01:34:46,469 boosting you back boost your questions. The delimiter comes 1451 01:34:46,469 --> 01:34:48,719 through blogger 15,033 sets 1452 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,540 Yeah, there is everybody. He says 1453 01:34:51,690 --> 01:34:54,930 Hi, Adam and Dave. Please keep doing unbelievable things. 1454 01:34:55,590 --> 01:35:00,540 Satoshi by Satoshi to the extreme. Anyways, Y'all are 1455 01:35:00,540 --> 01:35:03,570 invited to the podcast about the most important tech invented by 1456 01:35:03,570 --> 01:35:08,070 mankind. Artificial Intelligence, narrated by silky 1457 01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:12,090 voice of Gregory William Forsythe Forman view from Kitt. 1458 01:35:12,780 --> 01:35:17,610 Just type in your browser or any podcaster podcatcher AI dot 1459 01:35:17,610 --> 01:35:19,380 cooking. Yo, 1460 01:35:20,489 --> 01:35:25,559 yo, back atcha bombshell. Nothing from Roy Hmm. 1461 01:35:26,220 --> 01:35:27,450 Not a singer after all 1462 01:35:27,449 --> 01:35:29,039 that after all that. 1463 01:35:29,490 --> 01:35:32,760 Usually what happens? This is the way that it goes down almost 1464 01:35:33,210 --> 01:35:37,230 once a month is I don't read anything from Roy and then he 1465 01:35:37,260 --> 01:35:38,280 emails like hey, 1466 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,180 man, are you okay? Man was up. 1467 01:35:42,689 --> 01:35:44,999 Yeah, he's like, why don't you read my boost? I'm like, Oh 1468 01:35:44,999 --> 01:35:48,149 crap, and I go look for it. And it was there, and I missed it. 1469 01:35:48,179 --> 01:35:51,989 So it's just like, this is the way that I get ROI to talk to 1470 01:35:51,989 --> 01:35:54,239 me. Otherwise you won't ever email. He won't message me. 1471 01:35:54,750 --> 01:35:59,400 He's been distracted. Okay, I called him the other day. Okay, 1472 01:35:59,490 --> 01:36:01,890 yeah, he's been distract. He's just has to do like business 1473 01:36:01,890 --> 01:36:04,920 stuff. That's just very destructive for guys like Roy. 1474 01:36:05,970 --> 01:36:09,000 Yeah, yeah, that. I just wanna make sure he didn't run out of 1475 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:09,600 stats. 1476 01:36:10,980 --> 01:36:13,230 No, I think that's why he was doing business stuff like shit. 1477 01:36:13,230 --> 01:36:16,500 I gotta boost these guys. Yeah. 1478 01:36:17,489 --> 01:36:19,529 Gotta get out of the robe. All 1479 01:36:19,529 --> 01:36:22,559 right, what else do we need to do for today's Board meeting? Is 1480 01:36:22,559 --> 01:36:25,169 there anything that we need to cover that we haven't done yet? 1481 01:36:25,829 --> 01:36:30,689 Well, I'm looking through the list here. Oh, 1482 01:36:31,020 --> 01:36:33,720 by the way, I should mention Brees has updated their app 1483 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:38,370 they've got now you can do icon view and you can their stats so 1484 01:36:38,370 --> 01:36:40,980 you can see who you've boosted how much so they're they're 1485 01:36:40,980 --> 01:36:44,190 really coming up on the on the podcast app side now which is 1486 01:36:44,190 --> 01:36:44,910 nice to see. 1487 01:36:46,710 --> 01:36:52,620 Dan Benjamin been talking with him a lot lately. He is putting 1488 01:36:52,650 --> 01:36:57,810 he's gonna head pin pod ping into fireside cool and I'm 1489 01:36:57,810 --> 01:37:00,840 helping him through that so that he can get ready for the live 1490 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,980 item stuff. He said live item is going to is going to take some 1491 01:37:04,980 --> 01:37:06,750 database changes for him. He's gonna He's 1492 01:37:06,750 --> 01:37:11,790 gonna offer live item with a stream to his to his podcasters 1493 01:37:12,689 --> 01:37:15,629 not with a stream initially, but he's just going to do he's gonna 1494 01:37:15,629 --> 01:37:17,609 put support in it. So the feed because 1495 01:37:17,789 --> 01:37:20,429 it seems to me like even that is something that you could 1496 01:37:20,429 --> 01:37:21,809 Dockerized real quick. 1497 01:37:23,310 --> 01:37:24,120 A stream server? 1498 01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:27,089 Yeah. And fire up. If someone's doing a stream just haven't they 1499 01:37:27,089 --> 01:37:32,399 fire up a little Docker thing. And then good to go. In a 1500 01:37:32,399 --> 01:37:35,579 podcast host. I'm just I'm just drinking. I'm just Mr. Docker 1501 01:37:35,579 --> 01:37:38,309 now now that I've had to deal with it. Like, oh, this is 1502 01:37:38,309 --> 01:37:38,999 pretty cool. 1503 01:37:40,140 --> 01:37:44,310 Yeah, I know. I agree. I don't know how much. I feel like you 1504 01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:46,980 could do that. Maybe I'm crazy. 1505 01:37:46,980 --> 01:37:49,620 It's a bit like, like dashboards on voltage, you know, it's the 1506 01:37:49,620 --> 01:37:53,730 same thing. It's like, you know, it's firing up a Docker and and 1507 01:37:53,730 --> 01:37:56,700 then you got a whole machine you log into, and then you've got a 1508 01:37:56,700 --> 01:37:57,690 thunder hub, you know? 1509 01:37:58,710 --> 01:38:03,030 And you could keep a fleet of them running. Yeah. Like, I 1510 01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:05,790 don't know, do you remember? Did you ever you ran your own Apache 1511 01:38:05,790 --> 01:38:10,320 at some point in time, right? Yes, of course. Do you remember 1512 01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:10,950 how 1513 01:38:12,449 --> 01:38:14,129 that's where it works comes from? 1514 01:38:14,909 --> 01:38:19,379 Yeah, it worked. Do you remember how Apache had this notion of 1515 01:38:19,679 --> 01:38:24,029 child processes? And Max? Max number of waiting process? 1516 01:38:24,059 --> 01:38:26,909 No, man, I'm still at cgi bin baby. I don't know. 1517 01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:32,970 Oh, Lord. Server side includes server side includes 1518 01:38:35,069 --> 01:38:36,599 the link link tag, 1519 01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,980 the so in the Apache config file, you would specify Okay, 1520 01:38:41,010 --> 01:38:44,310 the minimum spare servers I think is what it was called. And 1521 01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:44,490 so 1522 01:38:44,490 --> 01:38:47,670 it would keep Oh, yes, yes, I do recall this parameter. Sure. 1523 01:38:47,730 --> 01:38:52,290 Yeah. If you had like 50 hits, that all spawned a process, it 1524 01:38:52,290 --> 01:38:56,580 would always be sure to keep it at least like five ready to go. 1525 01:38:57,510 --> 01:38:59,940 And like, I wonder if you could do it that way where you had 1526 01:38:59,940 --> 01:39:03,120 like a fleet and you say, Okay, I'm always going to keep five 1527 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:08,370 stream servers spun up ready to go. And then as, as the streams 1528 01:39:08,370 --> 01:39:11,490 fall off, and you don't need as many you begin to prune back on 1529 01:39:11,490 --> 01:39:14,040 and kill the doctor's notes. You always keep at least a few 1530 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,040 running. So that they're instant, you know, so you 1531 01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,470 know, and what's it really going to be I mean, no agenda, which 1532 01:39:19,470 --> 01:39:24,570 is pretty big show. Now we're between two and 3000 streams on 1533 01:39:24,570 --> 01:39:26,970 any given show day. So it's not going to break the bank. 1534 01:39:28,050 --> 01:39:32,190 Well, oh, Mehta said, as you're a cast as a Dockerized ice cast 1535 01:39:32,190 --> 01:39:37,800 liquid soap in a box. Oh, there you go. You go and work. I mean, 1536 01:39:38,970 --> 01:39:43,470 this just sounds doable to me. I don't does bandwidth. What's 1537 01:39:43,470 --> 01:39:47,610 your bandwidth? What stream rate do you use on the on your 1538 01:39:47,610 --> 01:39:48,090 stream? 1539 01:39:48,119 --> 01:39:55,349 Well, let me see. I use See 128 120 1540 01:39:55,470 --> 01:39:59,460 Now. I can't I'm not good enough to do the math for all that. 1541 01:39:59,490 --> 01:40:04,590 Well, if you have If you have 1000, then you have a year at a 1542 01:40:04,620 --> 01:40:09,000 megabit per second, I think. I don't know. I don't know. 1543 01:40:09,599 --> 01:40:12,449 That doesn't seem I mean, that just doesn't seem that Oh, it's 1544 01:40:12,449 --> 01:40:13,139 just getting it 1545 01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:17,370 all working. And you know, someone's got to fire up a 1546 01:40:17,370 --> 01:40:20,430 streaming server. You know, this is stuff the stuff to be done. 1547 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,570 Stuff. Sorry, long COVID still. 1548 01:40:25,470 --> 01:40:30,600 Yeah, but that's nothing. That's doable. As he wants me to do I 1549 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,040 want somebody to do the full monty. 1550 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,510 They're going to they're going to and Apple is going to 1551 01:40:36,510 --> 01:40:39,600 integrate all even the lit tag you watch. You 1552 01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:42,269 know, I don't disbelieve 1553 01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:44,160 for all your children leave the house. 1554 01:40:45,899 --> 01:40:48,689 Oh, see, we get Yeah, we get at least six years. 1555 01:40:48,809 --> 01:40:54,839 I'm telling you. It'll happen. All right, Dave. Two, we call it 1556 01:40:54,839 --> 01:40:56,999 a day. Sure. Yeah, we 1557 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,580 got I got more stuff. But we can we get another show next week. 1558 01:40:59,580 --> 01:41:00,660 That's the beautiful thing about PUC 1559 01:41:00,659 --> 01:41:04,109 and we do and then the week after that we're going to be in 1560 01:41:04,619 --> 01:41:07,619 in Dallas, from Podcast Movement. And we'll do the board 1561 01:41:07,619 --> 01:41:10,259 meeting from from Dallas. We're not quite sure how we're going 1562 01:41:10,259 --> 01:41:10,529 to do it 1563 01:41:10,529 --> 01:41:13,259 yet. But we will do it. We'll make it up on the fly like 1564 01:41:13,259 --> 01:41:13,949 teenagers do. 1565 01:41:14,189 --> 01:41:18,599 And again, Dave, congratulations on all of the success. Yeah, me 1566 01:41:18,599 --> 01:41:20,879 too. And everybody else everybody listening. Thank you 1567 01:41:20,879 --> 01:41:24,659 so much for attending the board meeting for podcasting. 2.0 Next 1568 01:41:24,659 --> 01:41:27,809 week, we'll be back with more stuff to discuss See you then 1569 01:41:27,809 --> 01:41:29,639 everybody remember to boost us? 1570 01:41:45,090 --> 01:41:49,650 You have been listening to podcasting 2.0 Visit podcast 1571 01:41:49,650 --> 01:41:55,020 index.org for more information. bombshell