Episode 83: Pushin' Paper

100:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,089podcasting 2.0 For April29 2020, to Episode 83. This200:00:06,089 --> 00:00:11,519week we're pushing paper. That'sright. Sometimes you get one of300:00:11,519 --> 00:00:14,249those admin weeks. Don't worry,we'll bore you with that.400:00:14,279 --> 00:00:18,329Welcome to podcasting. 2.0 Theofficial board meeting of500:00:18,329 --> 00:00:20,849podcasting 2.0 we discusseverything happening with the600:00:20,849 --> 00:00:24,959podcasting namespace podcast.index.org And of course, there's700:00:24,959 --> 00:00:28,349a lot going on to podcast indexdot social. I'm Adam curry here800:00:28,349 --> 00:00:31,229in the heart of the Texas HillCountry and in Alabama. He's a900:00:31,229 --> 00:00:34,469guy with a motorcycle for saleon Ebay, my friend on the other1000:00:34,469 --> 00:00:37,739end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.Dave Jones.1100:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,240It's a parks bike.1200:00:40,770 --> 00:00:43,710Six fixer upper, mild fixer1300:00:43,710 --> 00:00:49,350upper, the entire front end, thefront half. If you have a front1400:00:49,350 --> 00:00:51,900half, I have a backcast Oh my1500:00:51,900 --> 00:00:54,960goodness. Dave. How is Grantdoing? How's it easy? Okay.1600:00:56,010 --> 00:01:00,540Yeah, he got he's doing good.No. Pain, pain management1700:01:00,540 --> 00:01:03,420completely under control. He'sgood. He's only on Tylenol.1800:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,940Oh, that's very, very quick,actually.1900:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,840Yeah, that the dogs were pretty,pretty pleased about that.2000:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,560Because they like, you know, Iwas terrified. Yeah, I watched2100:01:13,560 --> 00:01:13,710you2200:01:13,710 --> 00:01:17,760were thinking of opioids. Yeah.As you watch dope sick. You like2300:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,620holy crap. Yeah. Very good.2400:01:19,860 --> 00:01:23,550Yeah, you watch dope sick, andthen you go to the hospital. And2500:01:23,790 --> 00:01:28,170everybody at the hospital givesyou the on a one to 10 Tell me2600:01:28,170 --> 00:01:29,250what your pain is. And I'm like,2700:01:30,210 --> 00:01:32,910right, so they have the littlechart with the smiley faces in2800:01:32,910 --> 00:01:35,490there. Oh, man. Isn't that sick?2900:01:35,850 --> 00:01:40,650It is. It is. I mean, like, onceyou watch that show you it makes3000:01:40,650 --> 00:01:42,270you so paranoid. Yeah.3100:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,900But you're a great dad. So he'ssafe.3200:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,490Yeah, even in his worst pain. Ijust gave him Tylenol. No, I3300:01:50,490 --> 00:01:50,820didn't do3400:01:51,270 --> 00:01:58,470and it took here. Come on, let'sbe honest about that. Boy, yeah.3500:01:59,940 --> 00:02:03,270You are listening, by the way totwo very tired men right now in3600:02:03,270 --> 00:02:09,150case you're just tuning intopodcasting. 2.0 Episode 83. Is3700:02:09,900 --> 00:02:12,150Well, I mean, you're tired man.Because you've been you know,3800:02:12,180 --> 00:02:15,030just been through a lot in thepast two weeks with your with3900:02:15,030 --> 00:02:19,290your kids accident. And it wasthe busiest time to time. We all4000:02:19,290 --> 00:02:22,170know leave Dave alone is whenhis kid gets an accident, which4100:02:22,170 --> 00:02:28,320of course will never beforgiven. No, ever, ever AM. And4200:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,920then I record. Sorry. So on yourpermanent record, permanent4300:02:31,920 --> 00:02:36,780record, yes. And I was often inNew York for my dad's internment4400:02:36,780 --> 00:02:41,850and a family reunion. And now,it's really really fun. But um,4500:02:41,850 --> 00:02:45,000you know, a lot of energy justbeing in New York by itself.4600:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,210Like,4700:02:45,240 --> 00:02:51,240ah, so tell me tell me about NewYork. I mean, so it was. I've4800:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,770never been really? Yeah, I'venever been to New York been at4900:02:55,770 --> 00:03:00,300the state at all. So do you.When was the last time you had5000:03:00,300 --> 00:03:00,990been to armant5100:03:02,070 --> 00:03:07,110the last time I was in Armonk,wow. A long time ago? Probably a5200:03:07,110 --> 00:03:11,700good eight years ago. And Armandis, you know, north of New York5300:03:11,700 --> 00:03:15,600City. It's kind of Westchester,Connecticut, right. You could5400:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,120probably you in fact, you drivetwo minutes, you're in5500:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,370Connecticut. Okay. And that'swhere the homestead is that my5600:03:23,370 --> 00:03:27,840family has lived in since 1929.And my uncle still lives there.5700:03:27,900 --> 00:03:33,480His his wife passed away aboutsix, seven weeks ago. The middle5800:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,240Patton cemetery is whereeveryone's buried. You know,5900:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,320it's it's a real thing in thecurry clan. Sorry, wing. Yeah.6000:03:40,950 --> 00:03:45,060Yes, exactly. Exactly. And thatwas great. Because my cousins6100:03:45,060 --> 00:03:48,300came in and of course, mysisters came in from Holland6200:03:48,300 --> 00:03:51,150from Italy. Christina came infrom Holland. She actually came6300:03:51,150 --> 00:03:54,510back with us to Texas. She'shere until Monday, just to Yeah.6400:03:54,510 --> 00:03:56,670Oh, yeah. Because she hadn'tbeen out here. And I haven't6500:03:56,670 --> 00:04:00,690seen her for 10 months since herbirthday. So it's, yeah, it's6600:04:00,690 --> 00:04:02,430the last time she was in theStates. Oh,6700:04:03,180 --> 00:04:09,930it was, huh. I would say goodfour years ago. And her6800:04:09,930 --> 00:04:13,440boyfriend could not come forthis server. Well, I would say6900:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,700almost fiance, because, youknow, he got the first. The7000:04:17,700 --> 00:04:21,000first vaccination starts todevelop myocarditis. He's like,7100:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,420No, I'm gonna do that. Oh, yeah,he stopped right away. And of7200:04:24,420 --> 00:04:24,660course,7300:04:24,660 --> 00:04:27,510is when he falls into thecategory of fucky7400:04:28,050 --> 00:04:31,200fucky fucky. Very much. You'renot allowed in the country.7500:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,210That's that's the category hefits into. Yeah. So anyway, so7600:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,880that, you know, it's just beenbusy. And then coming back in,7700:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,370you know, we're, we're, we'vehad some administrative changes.7800:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,580So for a whole bunch of reasonsthat are boring. I'm opening7900:04:47,850 --> 00:04:52,140like a bank account here inTexas. moving some of the LLC8000:04:52,140 --> 00:04:56,490stuff over here, and I have nobusiness doing this.8100:04:59,070 --> 00:05:02,610You have as much Businessopening bank accounts and do an8200:05:02,610 --> 00:05:08,100LLC stuff as I do writing Termsof Service. Privacy Policy.8300:05:09,300 --> 00:05:13,440Exactly. But it I love itbecause I know why we're doing8400:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,670it. It's all good. But it'sactually I have someone lined up8500:05:17,670 --> 00:05:21,750who wants to help us, Danny,who's the no agenda producer.8600:05:21,990 --> 00:05:25,320And, you know, I had a chat withhim. We had some email, we8700:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,700talked on the phone. And, youknow, he's, he's, I think he's,8800:05:29,790 --> 00:05:33,660I gave him a podcast index onsocial invite. And he's8900:05:33,750 --> 00:05:37,470committed to definitely helpingus out, you know, through this9000:05:37,470 --> 00:05:41,460transition, get everything setup. But I've just like, you9100:05:41,460 --> 00:05:43,590know, I would this was alreadyunderway, and I thought it was9200:05:43,590 --> 00:05:46,020already done. But now I need acertificate from the state of9300:05:46,020 --> 00:05:50,040Texas. And it's all this, allthis stuff. But anyway, I'm9400:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,920really excited about Dannycoming to help us win. I think9500:05:52,920 --> 00:06:00,210that his nickname will be debitcard. Danny, was my was my. Now,9600:06:00,420 --> 00:06:03,540you indeed, you know, since Igot back, it's like, oh, here's9700:06:03,540 --> 00:06:06,960some terms of service and liketo do to have a lawyer look at9800:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,600it. You're like, not couldn'tlook at it. That's he's a9900:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,050lawyer.10000:06:12,269 --> 00:06:13,379He's the podcast logging10100:06:13,829 --> 00:06:16,559lawyers. That sounds good to me.Well,10200:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,840it said that, you know, I knew,here's, here's the way this10300:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,580thinking goes. This was just mecutting it off, like, go ahead10400:06:23,580 --> 00:06:27,510and get into the meat of itbefore it started. Right. So10500:06:27,780 --> 00:06:31,500what I did was, I thought, Okay,let's see, if we write a privacy10600:06:31,500 --> 00:06:36,420policy, and then put it outthere. Cridland is immediately10700:06:36,420 --> 00:06:39,270going to look at it and pick itapart. So I'm gonna send it to10800:06:39,270 --> 00:06:43,200him ahead of time. Yes. Andsaving the Safe, safe one step.10900:06:43,830 --> 00:06:44,550Great idea.11000:06:44,579 --> 00:06:47,759I'm all for perfect, perfect,and he won't criticize his own11100:06:47,759 --> 00:06:50,249work. So if he rewrote half ofit, I'm like, Hey, we're good11200:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,579right now, but I think it turnedout great. I appreciate what he11300:06:53,579 --> 00:06:56,849did. Because he, he expanded, heexpanded it to cover some things11400:06:56,849 --> 00:07:00,509that I had not thought of, andthen did, like, made it made it11500:07:00,509 --> 00:07:05,249better for the EU ish, right.And all that, I think, I think11600:07:05,249 --> 00:07:05,879we're in good shape.11700:07:05,910 --> 00:07:13,020Excellent, by the way. So Ispent a lot of time getting11800:07:13,020 --> 00:07:16,470everything set up for this show.So we're live, I did the11900:07:16,470 --> 00:07:22,860pending, the pending tag in viceversa, sovereign feeds is kick12000:07:22,860 --> 00:07:26,940ass. The stuff that Steven B isdoing improving this interface12100:07:26,940 --> 00:07:30,360is really I mean, he's justdoing iteration through12200:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,970iteration and making theexperience better smarter. And12300:07:32,970 --> 00:07:36,510it's really good because I amthat guy. Cool. screw up12400:07:36,510 --> 00:07:41,790everything. So I you know, I didthe pending tag for our for our12500:07:41,790 --> 00:07:46,530live item tags show that we'relive. And so I know I got the12600:07:46,530 --> 00:07:49,380time, right? I change theepisode numbers or change the12700:07:49,380 --> 00:07:53,490date, and I publish it and thenof course, like, oh, it's still12800:07:53,490 --> 00:07:56,730pending or no, it's still it'sended. You didn't hit pending.12900:07:56,730 --> 00:08:01,980Okay, hit pending, to go throughit again. Upload the feed. Okay,13000:08:02,070 --> 00:08:05,520hit the pod ping. We're good.Oh, it's the wrong date. It's13100:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,040like March 20. Okay. Set it fortoday. Get it all set. I got the13200:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,870PM. So Okay, finally, it's allgood to go. We're good. But it's13300:08:15,870 --> 00:08:19,800cool because now you can see howan idiot can still mess up the13400:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,390best interface or the or youknow, user interface experience.13500:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,890So I'm just really making surethe Steven knows everything I do13600:08:28,950 --> 00:08:33,210wrong because you have to stop.I mean, I'm a danger to myself.13700:08:33,750 --> 00:08:37,560It's so easy. It's so easy tomess it up. It really is. And13800:08:37,560 --> 00:08:42,810then I also added the boost botto the live value block. Have13900:08:42,810 --> 00:08:44,010you followed the boost bot?14000:08:44,730 --> 00:08:46,560I had no idea what the boost buteven then I14100:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,139didn't know what it was either.Yeah, so I see this on the on14200:08:49,139 --> 00:08:54,149the mastodon. You add the boostbot to it with 1% split to your14300:08:54,179 --> 00:09:01,619live item tag. Your lot yourlive item. Value block. And in14400:09:01,619 --> 00:09:08,939anything over 100 sets. It Ithink it I think it shows up in14500:09:08,939 --> 00:09:11,519a chat room. I don't know if itshows up in our chat room. But14600:09:11,519 --> 00:09:15,029it also shoots it out onmastodon.14700:09:16,350 --> 00:09:19,620Yes. It's all I can go do itnow.14800:09:19,740 --> 00:09:23,070Yeah, it shouldn't be it shouldbe live. I mean as long I mean,14900:09:23,070 --> 00:09:27,870I pause here so as you say d3Live. Now do you see the boost15000:09:27,870 --> 00:09:30,060bot in the value block? Can yousee it? What are you using cast15100:09:30,060 --> 00:09:30,510thematic?15200:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,200No, Nanda now I'm using curatorCastro.15300:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,410So should be in there.15400:09:38,430 --> 00:09:41,610If I click on 83 Live, oh, if Ihit play on this, I'm going to15500:09:41,610 --> 00:09:45,630like feedback myself. That's notgonna. Not gonna be good. Do it?15600:09:45,900 --> 00:09:47,550Do it. I'm gonna do it. Do it.15700:09:47,580 --> 00:09:48,930Do it. Do it.15800:09:49,470 --> 00:09:53,190Boost one. Do I have 1000 SATsin my career? I guess. Surely I15900:09:53,190 --> 00:09:57,030do. Oh, I'm not logged in. I'mgoing to do this. I'm going to16000:09:57,030 --> 00:10:00,720do this at some point during theshow. Okay, so this So this is16100:10:00,810 --> 00:10:04,230just boost the show and it comesback.16200:10:04,650 --> 00:10:07,800Yeah, it goes live into a chatroom not sure where it's in the16300:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,080chat room made Minebea I don'tknow what Chat Room button16400:10:11,850 --> 00:10:13,770because there's new I'm justlike, I'd read through the16500:10:13,770 --> 00:10:16,890documentation like Okay, I justput this in and we'll see where16600:10:16,890 --> 00:10:19,890it goes. Apparently it's alsoboosting on Mastodon so if16700:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,040people are in the now people arein the podcasting 2.0 Chat.16800:10:24,420 --> 00:10:27,870Oh, I see it. I see it on bass.Yeah, see it on the mastodon? Is16900:10:27,870 --> 00:10:30,960that now is that coming from? Noagenda social.17000:10:31,349 --> 00:10:37,109Let me see. Oh, wait, there yougo. Servo booster 2033 Looks17100:10:37,109 --> 00:10:44,609like it has two links, podcastsindex.org. And that's the shores17200:10:44,609 --> 00:10:49,889feed and it links links to theYeah. Well, that's interesting17300:10:49,919 --> 00:10:53,189linking to the RSS feed andthat's from boost CLI. Okay,17400:10:53,580 --> 00:10:58,470and it says and there's anotherone through says metus boosted17500:10:58,470 --> 00:11:03,660with 1000s SASL via curio castersecond this did it wow17600:11:03,690 --> 00:11:06,420this is running with scissors tothe extreme this is running with17700:11:06,420 --> 00:11:11,400garden shears right now. I loveit this is so cool.17800:11:13,980 --> 00:11:18,900Very good wow okay, so I know17900:11:18,930 --> 00:11:23,940I gotta Wow out of Daveeverybody wow,18000:11:24,329 --> 00:11:26,639I knew that these things wereunder development all these18100:11:26,639 --> 00:11:29,189different connectors foreverything but I haven't seen18200:11:29,699 --> 00:11:32,129them necessarily in real thelast time I saw one little18300:11:32,129 --> 00:11:36,689running live was on the livethat we did with Sir Spencer.18400:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,080Oh no, this is ongoing effort.These people out of control.18500:11:40,380 --> 00:11:45,120They are I'm glad I found it.You know I saw Steven B's like18600:11:45,150 --> 00:11:49,080oh a boost bodice cooling boostbot What's this? What does this18700:11:49,110 --> 00:11:50,490use but you speak of18800:11:50,580 --> 00:11:53,070he say boost but you're gonnaget some you're gonna get some18900:11:53,070 --> 00:11:54,540attention. Yeah, of course. Itwas like19000:11:54,570 --> 00:11:57,480the only boost bot I know isboost boost. That's my boost19100:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,470bot. That's the only one19200:11:59,370 --> 00:12:03,120I want to do it now. They'regonna do it for me. Well, this19300:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,620is only the live item though,right?19400:12:05,220 --> 00:12:08,580Yeah, but if you hit it Yeah,yeah. So it has to be curio19500:12:08,580 --> 00:12:10,470caster. I think you're right.Yeah, it's19600:12:10,470 --> 00:12:12,150not gonna show up and no, itwon't show up.19700:12:12,420 --> 00:12:16,140So where is everybody? Where'severybody and getting in on the19800:12:16,140 --> 00:12:20,820fun? Hello, Roy corduroy. Hello,Roy. What are you doing Roy? Get19900:12:20,820 --> 00:12:24,480on this live item stuff Roy hewas supposed to have a dedicated20000:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,470person who was getting20100:12:26,100 --> 00:12:30,150who who does what does the mostso far is caught in a loop. I20200:12:30,150 --> 00:12:34,890was trying to do this for sowhat what other? What other app20300:12:35,310 --> 00:12:45,480in your opinion is the mostpoised or primed for alive20400:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,410support?20500:12:46,799 --> 00:12:49,319Well, it would be verydisappointing if a fountain20600:12:49,319 --> 00:12:53,039didn't hop on the ship rightaway. I mean, these those guys20700:12:53,039 --> 00:12:57,029are way ahead of stuff rightnow. And Oscar's out of control20800:12:57,239 --> 00:13:02,699they have the hero I got thelive with the beat being able to20900:13:02,789 --> 00:13:07,199I guess easily add yourlisteners blocks to the value21000:13:07,739 --> 00:13:11,429add everyone gets a wallet. Likeoh my god, can we get to no21100:13:11,429 --> 00:13:14,039agenda artists to get one ofthese so I can just add them per21200:13:14,039 --> 00:13:16,439episode. You know, thanks fordoing the art. Here's here's21300:13:16,439 --> 00:13:18,359some stats for here's justsplit.21400:13:19,020 --> 00:13:22,140So I want to know how thisworks. So that means anybody can21500:13:22,140 --> 00:13:26,370just show show up and enabletheir walk. Oh, okay. So as I21600:13:26,370 --> 00:13:30,390see what happened. So as long asyou have a fountain account, you21700:13:30,390 --> 00:13:31,020have a wallet.21800:13:31,980 --> 00:13:35,040And the Yes, exact hatchingExactly, exactly.21900:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,490And so what I'm thinking is it'sprobably it because it seems to22000:13:38,490 --> 00:13:44,880be using the lightning addresstheme, you know, where you can22100:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,760attach like an email addresslooking thing to a lightning22200:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,690address? Oh, yeah,22300:13:48,689 --> 00:13:50,909I don't know about I haven't Ihaven't actually looked at it. I22400:13:50,909 --> 00:13:59,009just saw the announcement and Ibelieve it right away yeah, yes.22500:13:59,489 --> 00:14:04,739I got a busy life. Dave. I havethings to do here. Well, let me22600:14:05,489 --> 00:14:06,929just presumed it worked.22700:14:08,610 --> 00:14:11,190I'm sure you're right. I want tolook at this though. I don't22800:14:11,190 --> 00:14:13,620know I'm gonna get to KevinBrooks show Oh,22900:14:13,980 --> 00:14:19,800yeah. Kiss Oh, show not only isso if you're not on if you're23000:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,490not hip to sovereign feedsovereign feeds.com This is23100:14:23,490 --> 00:14:25,890really where you get to playaround and you get to mess with23200:14:25,950 --> 00:14:28,890I mean, it's so cool to createthe feed with all these23300:14:28,890 --> 00:14:32,520different features. And I'm evenat the point where we change the23400:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,300metadata stuff that no one everdoes if you're podcasting like23500:14:36,300 --> 00:14:39,900that stuff is just stuck in timeforever. Thank well was here23600:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,650anyway, let me just give it aquick review. So nice. And also,23700:14:43,650 --> 00:14:47,880you know, what's also Davidnormal hypercare tree all of a23800:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,950sudden, David Norman. Do he haslike eight kids comes back. And23900:14:52,950 --> 00:14:55,860then boom, there's a new versionof hyper Kassar?24000:14:56,429 --> 00:15:01,049Yeah, hyper Kitchen Studio 2.0.Yeah, nice. It looks like an24100:15:01,049 --> 00:15:07,889eight bit Marvel. Yeah, thatlooks so do you said drag has24200:15:07,889 --> 00:15:13,079been testing it? Yeah. What isthe what is the killer feature24300:15:13,079 --> 00:15:15,029of hyper captured Studio 2.0?24400:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,440Dave, I have no idea drag istesting it. I'm not gonna test24500:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,290that drag is our expert. I haveno idea.24600:15:22,830 --> 00:15:25,680All I do is I don't have metalin his business.24700:15:26,070 --> 00:15:31,560No way. I but I don't have Imean, I still log into HyperCard24800:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,600your studio to set up the firstkind of fake chapter. But it's24900:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,080not 2.0. So I'm not in the club.I have not been given access to25000:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,3902.0. I am extremely curiousabout the what does he call it25100:15:45,390 --> 00:15:49,890like magic chapters or autochapters? Yes, he has some kind25200:15:49,890 --> 00:15:52,890of AI stuff. And I know dreaddhas been experimenting with that25300:15:52,890 --> 00:15:57,600as well. This isn't these areincredible development. We need25400:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,800a PR team.25500:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,540Oh, I thought we already hadone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Daniel J.25600:16:03,540 --> 00:16:04,560Lewis. I thought that was25700:16:07,290 --> 00:16:10,860Daniel J. Lewis. Love that guy.Alright, let me see.25800:16:11,520 --> 00:16:18,030So here it is. Is most awesomeunderneath stuff license? Some25900:16:18,030 --> 00:16:22,440platform changes like flat. No.Jas, manual deployments. Okay,26000:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,500so he's doing some some sort ofunderneath the hood things. He26100:16:28,500 --> 00:16:31,320says I've also added a player inthe chapter editor that will26200:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,470autofill the time marker as Adamsuggested long ago.26300:16:35,610 --> 00:16:37,950I'm glad I suggested that. Idon't know what that means.26400:16:38,130 --> 00:16:40,950You don't remember what yousuggested. But you did have a26500:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,960time marker? Uh, huh. Says26600:16:48,090 --> 00:16:49,200I really don't remember.26700:16:49,620 --> 00:16:51,330Yeah, there's a player. I'mlooking at the screenshot.26800:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,540There's a player in the chaptereditor. Hmm.26900:16:55,290 --> 00:16:59,850Right. I Yeah. Okay, both justUI stuff. But if drab is working27000:16:59,850 --> 00:17:02,310with it, dribs gonna get itright. I'm not worried about it27100:17:02,310 --> 00:17:02,730at all.27200:17:03,510 --> 00:17:07,650And he said, I mentioned to himthat was going to support the27300:17:07,650 --> 00:17:11,340location functionality. So youput locations into chapters? And27400:17:11,340 --> 00:17:16,140he said, Yes. To this on histool, it to my knowledge will be27500:17:16,140 --> 00:17:20,850the first the first tool thatexists that will27600:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,190take advantage of locationlocation. Yeah.27700:17:24,599 --> 00:17:26,489Because we talked about that fora long time where you could do27800:17:26,489 --> 00:17:31,109like a, you know, maybe you'redoing a podcast about a27900:17:31,139 --> 00:17:34,259particular like a war orsomething and you want to give28000:17:34,830 --> 00:17:39,540pick a war, any war, there'splenty. Or you want28100:17:40,350 --> 00:17:44,550and, you know, you want topinpoint this episode, we're28200:17:44,550 --> 00:17:48,540excuse me this, this part of theepisode from minute to minute28300:17:48,540 --> 00:17:51,75020. You were talking aboutArmani. Armani. Yeah. Maha28400:17:51,750 --> 00:17:55,470Marma. And then the next. Youknow, few minutes you're talking28500:17:55,470 --> 00:17:56,910about? New Jersey?28600:17:57,389 --> 00:18:01,709Exactly. That's the way that'sreally the way it should be28700:18:01,709 --> 00:18:06,329used. That's fantastic. Again,those maps out FM guys, they're28800:18:06,329 --> 00:18:09,329circling around when we give nolove, because I don't understand28900:18:09,329 --> 00:18:09,929any of it.29000:18:10,980 --> 00:18:14,280Well, am I wrong? cred? Listen,he was on their board or29100:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,300something. What?29200:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,260Yeah. Oh, man. Guys everywhere.29300:18:20,070 --> 00:18:23,700Unless I'm nuts. I mean, I thinkthat's true. So yeah, they29400:18:23,700 --> 00:18:25,410shouldn't be conditioned. Bringthem into the fold29500:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,800here. Because the guy keepspopping up saying, hey, here I29600:18:28,800 --> 00:18:35,430am. Interesting. You think Jameswould do that? Let me see. Well,29700:18:35,460 --> 00:18:38,250that's just so you know, whatreally is there's too much going29800:18:38,250 --> 00:18:41,970on, and can't keep up with it.And you. You basically been29900:18:41,970 --> 00:18:46,200spending the week catching up,right? Yeah, right. We're30000:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,330excited to introduce thosetickets. We're excited to30100:18:48,330 --> 00:18:51,390introduce to industry leaders asour new advisors, James30200:18:51,390 --> 00:18:55,980Kirtland, editor of the Dailypod news and EVO Tara, co author30300:18:55,980 --> 00:18:57,510of podcasting for dummies.30400:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,390They're both pals of the pod.Yeah,30500:19:00,419 --> 00:19:04,709they will tell us what to dopowers of the pod. Tell us what30600:19:04,709 --> 00:19:07,739to advise advise someone onsomething perfect.30700:19:08,250 --> 00:19:10,320We're at your disposal.30800:19:10,590 --> 00:19:12,900All right. I'm sorry. Iinterrupted you. You catching up30900:19:12,900 --> 00:19:13,950on everything.31000:19:14,460 --> 00:19:17,310Did you interrupt me? Oh, yeah,I guess you do. Well, yeah.31100:19:17,310 --> 00:19:19,470Yeah, just catching up onemails. I had like, you know,31200:19:19,590 --> 00:19:24,240100 Something emails to catch upon. And it I think I'm getting31300:19:24,300 --> 00:19:28,050I'm getting close. But I had acouple of through had a lot of31400:19:28,050 --> 00:19:31,590like, just me know, a my feedsmessed up, hey, this, right,31500:19:31,590 --> 00:19:33,330good, hey, blah, blah, blah,just a bunch of that kind of31600:19:33,330 --> 00:19:41,070jazz. But then there was a fewthings. I talked to a hosting31700:19:41,070 --> 00:19:45,060company this week aboutpotentially doing some31800:19:45,060 --> 00:19:49,560integration with us and do anauto submit. It was interesting31900:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,940conversation because we weretalking about like terms of32000:19:53,940 --> 00:19:56,760service that that's what got meon the terms of service privacy32100:19:56,760 --> 00:20:04,470policy. Okay, and for the recordIf are all that stuff, Terms of32200:20:04,470 --> 00:20:09,150Service privacy policy, andeverything is on GitHub. Now,32300:20:09,150 --> 00:20:13,500there's a repo called legal UI.So if you go to the32400:20:13,500 --> 00:20:18,780github.com/pockets, index Dashorg, and go to legal, there's32500:20:18,780 --> 00:20:21,630our Privacy Policy and Terms ofService, I'm going to put it32600:20:21,870 --> 00:20:25,890there and just link to the stuffthere. From our website, it's32700:20:25,890 --> 00:20:28,860easier to edit. On so32800:20:29,580 --> 00:20:32,040our terms of service may changefrom time to time,32900:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,450it will, it may, and we willalert you if33000:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,660we want to alert you, we don'thave to alert you.33100:20:40,350 --> 00:20:43,170My goal is to never emailanybody ever for any reason.33200:20:43,530 --> 00:20:48,210So a new podcast host that wouldbe auto submitting, when that33300:20:48,210 --> 00:20:49,200just be a pod ping.33400:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,790We'll see. Okay, so that's whatI was gonna say thank you. Z, is33500:20:53,790 --> 00:20:56,460we talked about it for a littlewhile, and they were, they were33600:20:56,460 --> 00:20:59,700telling me well, you know, wewere looking at the terms and,33700:21:00,180 --> 00:21:04,560you know, if we're, if you justfind our feeds and suck a man,33800:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,320you know, that's, that's fine.That's one thing. But if we33900:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,260actively push to you, we need toreview your terms and make sure34000:21:10,260 --> 00:21:14,670that everything's kosher withlegal and yeah, and, you know,34100:21:14,670 --> 00:21:16,500it's like, Okay, it's good. Imean, it's fine. Makes sense.34200:21:16,530 --> 00:21:16,980And34300:21:18,450 --> 00:21:22,110we, we, we retain JamesCridland, so we're fine. No34400:21:22,110 --> 00:21:22,620problem.34500:21:22,800 --> 00:21:28,650Yes, that's right. on retainer,and the so then a little bit34600:21:28,650 --> 00:21:31,680through, I was like, Well, youknow, I mean, really, an easier34700:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,150thing to do is just send a podpain. If you do that every time,34800:21:36,150 --> 00:21:41,280then we we get every feed, it'sjust like an auto submit. And34900:21:41,700 --> 00:21:43,290everybody else gets it, too.35000:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,360Yeah, everybody wins. Yeah. Andthey say yes.35100:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,720They said, We're gonna push forthat. So. Uh huh.35200:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,550We have higher ups to convince.35300:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,290I think so more legal? I don'tknow. I don't know how that35400:22:01,290 --> 00:22:04,350stuff works. I was there'salways higher ups to convince35500:22:04,530 --> 00:22:05,850unless you're us, and there'sonly two of35600:22:06,180 --> 00:22:09,450us, right? We are the highest,the bucks, the buck stops here.35700:22:09,930 --> 00:22:15,900Yeah. So I mean, in a regularbusiness that has meetings, I'm35800:22:15,900 --> 00:22:19,560assuming there's higher ups. Butit's cool, though, because that35900:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,310worked out perfectly likebecause we were thinking, you've36000:22:23,310 --> 00:22:25,650been thinking the whole time.Okay, well, this kills two birds36100:22:25,650 --> 00:22:28,770with one stone. And then youreally don't have to worry about36200:22:29,190 --> 00:22:30,750Terms of Service, right?36300:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,540You're just telling the worldhey, we're out here and36400:22:33,540 --> 00:22:35,970everybody else can pick it up.And that's exactly the same36500:22:35,970 --> 00:22:40,980thing, as you know, as someoneelse ingesting I agree.36600:22:41,850 --> 00:22:45,000Yeah. I mean, like, you're justthrowing it out there. And then36700:22:45,030 --> 00:22:49,920whoever, it's like, the, youknow, it's like, well, you know,36800:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,880I'm not giving this to you. ButI'm just gonna leave it right36900:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,220here on the coffee table. And ifyou happen to find if37000:22:56,220 --> 00:22:58,920you see it by any chance, justpick it up, you know, yeah,37100:22:58,950 --> 00:23:00,240ingest that. It's good.37200:23:01,169 --> 00:23:03,989Excellent. So, yeah. Anyway,that's, that's, that was a good37300:23:03,989 --> 00:23:10,499conversation. And that's, I'mgoing to get another couple of37400:23:10,799 --> 00:23:14,129people to talk to you this nextweek as well on similar things.37500:23:14,129 --> 00:23:18,329So there's a lot of, it's funny,it's funny how this thing goes37600:23:18,329 --> 00:23:22,979through phases where you havelike, a lot of DEV work. And37700:23:22,979 --> 00:23:26,039then for a little while, youhave a bunch of admin stuff. And37800:23:26,039 --> 00:23:28,319then for a little while, youhave a bunch of like, talking to37900:23:28,319 --> 00:23:30,779people and then it goes back tothe desk. It goes through these38000:23:30,779 --> 00:23:36,149like cycles. Sure, sure. I thinkI think you dev a lot and you38100:23:36,149 --> 00:23:39,419code a lot and all that kind ofstuff. pleat. If I ever say dev38200:23:39,419 --> 00:23:40,709as a verb began, please yeah,but38300:23:40,710 --> 00:23:46,710I think I was Devon the otherday, you know, thinking of you.38400:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,680Like, Oh, I love definitelythink of Dave38500:23:50,669 --> 00:23:55,679That's one step away fromcalling a calling your position38600:23:55,679 --> 00:23:57,419that you're recruiting for aninja.38700:23:58,740 --> 00:24:01,260Right big superstar. Superstar.38800:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,440Super. Customer Support. Sherpa.38900:24:04,530 --> 00:24:08,700Oh, goodness. Well, I do likecustomer support. No Customer39000:24:08,700 --> 00:24:13,350Success representative. Doesn'tbus that bus? I love that.39100:24:13,620 --> 00:24:20,700Customer Success consultant.How're you doing? It is very39200:24:20,700 --> 00:24:21,030good.39300:24:21,630 --> 00:24:24,810Yeah, so what we get there? Imean, there's a bunch of yes39400:24:24,810 --> 00:24:28,740budget, that kind of stuff goingon bunch of just just talking in39500:24:28,770 --> 00:24:29,220typing,39600:24:29,580 --> 00:24:34,170which is good. And we you know,there's a dizzy conversation39700:24:34,170 --> 00:24:37,740which, you know, we started afew episodes ago, which kind of39800:24:37,770 --> 00:24:40,260of course Daniel J. Lewisbrought it back in typical39900:24:40,260 --> 00:24:44,490fashion. Hey, are we callingthis thing podcast standard?40000:24:44,490 --> 00:24:49,560Now? What is that all about? Andthis sparked off a great40100:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,500conversation which I gladlyremove myself from just40200:24:52,500 --> 00:24:56,490watching. Of course, justwatching this like, Okay,40300:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,480where's this going? And it'skind of interesting, because I I40400:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,340really thought that kind ofseparating the podcast namespace40500:25:05,340 --> 00:25:09,600and giving it its own name iswhat was desired.40600:25:11,340 --> 00:25:13,620But not only not know now,40700:25:14,550 --> 00:25:17,640podcasting 2.0 seems to be avery important brand to40800:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,250everybody. Or maybe maybe I'm,maybe I'm not reading it right.40900:25:23,250 --> 00:25:28,140But it's been really interestingto see this and, and to a41000:25:28,140 --> 00:25:31,050certain degree, I'm also lookingat this, like, hey, was there41100:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,010like 10 years of this, thatpeople just talking about this41200:25:35,010 --> 00:25:37,440stuff? Because, you know,meanwhile, there's an actual41300:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,620namespace and everything's readyto go, how do we get it out to41400:25:40,620 --> 00:25:44,490people? You know, what is thepriority? Isn't it to get as41500:25:44,490 --> 00:25:48,030many posts as possible to atleast adopt one feature? Because41600:25:48,030 --> 00:25:51,120once they include the namespace,then, you know, then it's,41700:25:51,300 --> 00:25:55,200you've already gotten over sucha big hump. Now,41800:25:56,910 --> 00:26:02,040you know, this goes back to theold to sort of my old adage,41900:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,480when people start arguing aboutthing about things. It's time to42000:26:06,480 --> 00:26:13,320stop talking and just go buildsomething. Yeah. And I think it42100:26:13,620 --> 00:26:17,760is, I was looking earlier, I wasactually grabbing a copy. And42200:26:17,760 --> 00:26:24,630daughter is doing a report forschool on Ukraine. And I was42300:26:24,630 --> 00:26:32,310grabbing a copy of calls out thecausality episode on Chernobyl42400:26:32,310 --> 00:26:37,350for her. Uh huh. And I'm lookingat, I'm looking at looking at42500:26:37,710 --> 00:26:42,870John 2g site. And he has upthere this big badge on his42600:26:42,870 --> 00:26:47,340website, this says, podcast intoone a certified Oh, nice, and42700:26:47,340 --> 00:26:51,660it's beautiful. And I thought,you know, maybe we're, maybe we42800:26:51,660 --> 00:26:54,300don't worry, maybe we don'trebrand things, maybe, maybe,42900:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,050maybe it's good enough as it is.I mean, like, it's, it's a43000:26:58,050 --> 00:27:01,950pretty little badge, and itmakes sense. And I don't know,43100:27:01,950 --> 00:27:03,630um, you know, it'd be, there'sbuildings.43200:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,970So just viewing it from an and Ijust want to state my position.43300:27:11,070 --> 00:27:17,280I am happy to have withdrawnfrom the branding, marketing,43400:27:17,340 --> 00:27:21,060what points to whereconversation. Because first of43500:27:21,060 --> 00:27:24,510all, I'm way too invested in howwe started to, and I read, I43600:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,140recognize this for me,podcasting. 2.0, as we started,43700:27:28,380 --> 00:27:35,880was the independent index, whichyou cannot get kicked off of43800:27:37,620 --> 00:27:42,000what you know, with an open APIfor any app developer to create43900:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,330whatever experience they want,and display whatever they want,44000:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,990if they don't want to show apodcast Fine with me, and the44100:27:48,990 --> 00:27:53,010value for value streamingpayments. That to me was44200:27:53,010 --> 00:27:58,890podcasting. 2.0 now recognizingthe polarizing statements we had44300:27:58,890 --> 00:28:03,090in the beginning of freedom ofspeech, etc, etc, understanding44400:28:03,090 --> 00:28:06,270that completely, we even softenthat, and we, we've changed some44500:28:06,270 --> 00:28:09,300of our messaging, but werealized that podcast index.org44600:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,660is not should not really be adestination, per se, other than44700:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,800what is it and so, you know, andDaniel J. Lewis has put together44800:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,740some very good beginning havesome some ways to, to split44900:28:22,740 --> 00:28:27,240stuff out. But maybe all of thatis wrong, maybe it is all45000:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,980podcasting. 2.0 and podcasting,2.0 the namespace with all the45100:28:31,980 --> 00:28:36,360features is podcasting. 2.0. Forme, podcasting. 2.0 is, hey, you45200:28:36,360 --> 00:28:41,610can you can't get canceled andyour money can't get canceled.45300:28:42,930 --> 00:28:46,170And arguably, that's broughtover 6000 people to the45400:28:46,170 --> 00:28:48,780namespace because once you havethat you have the namespace,45500:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,320technically. And you know, youunderstand that you need a45600:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,710different app. And these appshave chapters, and they have all45700:28:55,710 --> 00:28:59,460the features. So you know, butthat's maybe just one on ramp.45800:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,940And maybe it's not wrong to havepodcasts in 2.0 in all different45900:29:02,940 --> 00:29:03,600places.46000:29:05,250 --> 00:29:08,310It's it's hard for me to haveopinions on these things,46100:29:08,310 --> 00:29:14,910because I have a sort of a fieryintense hatred of discussions46200:29:14,910 --> 00:29:18,330about what to name things. Uhhuh. It drives me nuts. How46300:29:18,330 --> 00:29:19,530did you come up with Grant?46400:29:21,660 --> 00:29:25,530I have a friend named namedChris is the first thing I would46500:29:25,530 --> 00:29:32,610have searched for. Like what?You know, I can't I just can't46600:29:33,150 --> 00:29:37,260talk about those things for longperiods of time. I'm like, Okay,46700:29:37,290 --> 00:29:40,170that's good. Let's go with that.So I don't know, I'm just not46800:29:40,170 --> 00:29:40,620the best guy46900:29:40,620 --> 00:29:44,370to throw up. And ultimately, thepush and pull has to come from47000:29:44,370 --> 00:29:47,730the hosting companies and fromthe apps. That's where it has to47100:29:47,730 --> 00:29:52,320come from, you know, and, ofcourse, you know, they have47200:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,100they've taken a different path.But fountain is doing a great47300:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,640job at promoting the featuresthey have. And I'm seeing more47400:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,490and more seeing companiespromoting features very well.47500:30:02,670 --> 00:30:07,380But I'm also seeing sovereignfeeds promoting, you know,47600:30:07,380 --> 00:30:10,770podcasting 2.0 in their own way.So maybe it doesn't have to be a47700:30:10,770 --> 00:30:15,180centralized, you know, thingthat is exactly this. You know,47800:30:15,180 --> 00:30:20,460I don't know it, it feels likeit's all kind of pushing along47900:30:20,460 --> 00:30:24,930in some odd way. But once peoplewill go to look to host48000:30:24,930 --> 00:30:27,390something, or if they have anexisting podcast host and host48100:30:27,390 --> 00:30:29,490says, Oh, look at all thesefeatures we have. And these are48200:30:29,490 --> 00:30:35,550the apps you know, I think thepodcasting is a slow grower,48300:30:35,550 --> 00:30:39,000this stuff takes years and yearsand years. That's the48400:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,870experience.48500:30:40,230 --> 00:30:42,510I don't know that you have andI'm happy to let everybody else48600:30:42,510 --> 00:30:42,930figure this.48700:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,490Exactly. That's what I'm sayingis like, It's fine with me, I'm48800:30:47,490 --> 00:30:50,610going to my value for valuemanifesto, which is not done by48900:30:50,610 --> 00:30:54,480a longshot, but I'm working onit. And and that's how I'm49000:30:54,510 --> 00:30:57,780that's where I'm gonna pushpeople to get into podcasting.49100:30:57,780 --> 00:31:01,1702.0 apps is through that. Butit's it doesn't mean it's49200:31:01,170 --> 00:31:05,880mutually exclusive from hypercapture, promoting podcasting.49300:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,1802.0 was, you know, with locationand chapters, location and all49400:31:09,180 --> 00:31:09,930the other stuff.49500:31:10,980 --> 00:31:13,830I think the biggest the biggestthing I've heard about49600:31:14,070 --> 00:31:17,520podcasting 2.0 as a brand, it'sI'm just trusting, you know,49700:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,040Daniel J. Lewis is the brand.He's the brand manager.49800:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,200Oh, wow. You just want to makehim a VP.49900:31:25,710 --> 00:31:27,840VP. Okay, these done. VP,50000:31:27,990 --> 00:31:31,230SVP, SVP, SVP? Oh, that's50100:31:31,230 --> 00:31:33,870right. You get some calls from aSVP because you don't want to50200:31:33,870 --> 00:31:34,320pay him more50300:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,280correct. no increase in salary,your senior vice president now.50400:31:38,460 --> 00:31:41,760That's right. And you get youget you get three weeks vacation50500:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,950a year so to easily it. So asbrand manager, he's always said,50600:31:46,950 --> 00:31:49,530Well, you know, podcasts andtempo is too difficult for50700:31:49,530 --> 00:31:53,100search to search for like, yeah,yeah, the SEO juice is all50800:31:53,100 --> 00:31:57,810screwed up, of course. And thatmakes it makes sense to me.50900:31:58,050 --> 00:31:58,620Totally.51000:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,360Though, it's all messed up. Butsomehow it's still working and51100:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320people are flocking towards it.So for me, it's like, when I go51200:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,930on shows is typically to talkabout the value for value51300:32:09,930 --> 00:32:15,720aspect. And it's bringing peopleto to the new to podcasting. 2.051400:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,320is bringing people to the newapps is bringing people to the51500:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,530hosting companies. So that's myway of doing it. I don't think51600:32:22,530 --> 00:32:25,830there's I don't think there hasto be one way or the other. I51700:32:25,830 --> 00:32:28,290don't think so either. Now, Ifeel really good about it. And51800:32:28,290 --> 00:32:30,990yes, key back around.51900:32:32,070 --> 00:32:35,550Modern is very postmodern tosay, podcasting to pornos,52000:32:35,550 --> 00:32:41,790whatever it means to you know,maybe the Gen Z maybe they liked52100:32:41,790 --> 00:32:42,360that kind of talk.52200:32:43,980 --> 00:32:49,170I know it's gonna come down topodcasters using it asking their52300:32:49,170 --> 00:32:52,080audience to use it. That's justjust what it takes. In52400:32:52,080 --> 00:33:00,960podcasting. It's a grower not ashower I have to give C dubs52500:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,290credit for that see, this is thebeauty of doing a live a live52600:33:04,290 --> 00:33:07,320podcast you get you get theseone liners from people in the52700:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,450chat who like who are muchsmarter than we are.52800:33:12,480 --> 00:33:21,540So I agree with takes me off mygame. Sorry. I agree with with52900:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,790Dvorak though, like if we'reboth looking at the same chat53000:33:26,790 --> 00:33:30,150room, it's it's uh, you know, westep we step on each other's53100:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,510curves needed. We needed Davechat room and Adam. Correct.53200:33:33,510 --> 00:33:38,820Correct. So we need we need tosplit split this bad boy.53300:33:38,940 --> 00:33:43,020Well, yes, yes, that's true. Imean, for me, chat room is53400:33:43,020 --> 00:33:45,690something in my peripheralvision that I'm reading without53500:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,840ever looking at it. You know,it's like, somehow because I53600:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,830just the way I have it set up,like, oh, okay, I see that. I'll53700:33:52,830 --> 00:33:55,680catch stuff on the corner of myeye even noticed my brain is53800:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,880processing it after years andyears and years of doing it. But53900:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,600most for most people, itdistracts distraction.54000:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,260You got a chip, you just got achip right in your head goes54100:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,010straight, isn't it?54200:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,590Well, it's all I do. Dave, Idon't have any other talents.54300:34:11,220 --> 00:34:15,570Give me that. Give me that.That's the talent I have. So I'm54400:34:15,570 --> 00:34:19,800super happy though. stuff isreally working well. Yeah,54500:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,950always. Yeah. But I feel alittle bit out of the out of the54600:34:22,950 --> 00:34:27,810promotional loop. But man, Idid. What Bitcoin did was the54700:34:28,170 --> 00:34:28,770Peter54800:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,670had not had. That's been theweirdest part. Okay. Sorry to54900:34:35,670 --> 00:34:38,250interrupt. That's been theweirdest part of the last two55000:34:38,250 --> 00:34:42,390weeks for me. I'm a heavypodcast listener. I listened to55100:34:42,390 --> 00:34:50,220probably Gosh, 10 to 12 podcastsa week. I mean, I listen to a55200:34:50,220 --> 00:34:54,960lot. And the last two weeks.I've been so hands on with my55300:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,550son and everything that I'vereally not. I've not listened to55400:34:59,550 --> 00:35:05,160maybe to three episodes of an Ifeel like I feel like I've just55500:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,500completely out of it. Like Ihaven't listened to that show55600:35:07,500 --> 00:35:11,880that you were on, ever listenedto any of my typical standard55700:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,330fare of merit mere mortals. AndI'm so out of the loop.55800:35:15,359 --> 00:35:17,969Yeah, I'm also a bit out of theloop because I was traveling.55900:35:20,159 --> 00:35:24,329Did use pod friend to downloadshows for the plane ride? That56000:35:24,329 --> 00:35:28,109was cool. That we didn't know. Ididn't know he had that. Yeah,56100:35:28,319 --> 00:35:31,919I'm sorry, not pod friend podverse. My mistake. Okay, pod56200:35:31,919 --> 00:35:36,749verse. Yeah, use pod verse. Andthat was very enjoyable. So I56300:35:36,749 --> 00:35:39,419did catch, you know, some ofsome of the podcasts I listen56400:35:39,419 --> 00:35:44,789to. But I was just today tryingto catch up on pod land.56500:35:45,720 --> 00:35:46,950Yep, same, same,56600:35:46,980 --> 00:35:50,370didn't didn't get through thewhole thing. I'm always56700:35:50,370 --> 00:35:52,560listening to see if he mentionedsomething that I can get56800:35:52,590 --> 00:35:53,490irritated by.56900:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,510I mean, that's like when youscan the chapters and see what57000:35:57,510 --> 00:35:57,660oh,57100:35:57,660 --> 00:36:02,370no, no, I'm not like that. I'mnot I do not scan ahead in the57200:36:02,370 --> 00:36:07,290chapters. I won't do it. I likeNo, I like now they don't really57300:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,560do image changes. But I likeseeing image changes when I57400:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,670don't want them to be spoiled.No, I don't know i But that's me57500:36:14,670 --> 00:36:17,460as a creator, you know, I don'twant people to listen to 1.2 or57600:36:17,460 --> 00:36:20,7001.5. I want you listen to way Icreated it. And I just want you57700:36:20,700 --> 00:36:22,050to enjoy the experience.57800:36:23,190 --> 00:36:29,310And Alex sent me a note and saidhe doesn't think that you can57900:36:29,310 --> 00:36:36,060copyright X and XML. So we weretalking last week about bringing58000:36:36,060 --> 00:36:43,740in the iTunes tags. And hedoesn't think that you can. He58100:36:43,740 --> 00:36:45,960doesn't think they'recopyrightable. So like we should58200:36:46,230 --> 00:36:49,410be okay, because he's basingthis on clear.58300:36:50,100 --> 00:36:54,270The conversation of iTunes blockversus podcast block.58400:36:54,810 --> 00:36:58,590Yeah, we, uh, yeah. Or just allthe tags in general, really, you58500:36:58,590 --> 00:37:03,000know, if we're gonna bring themall in. So he's basing this on58600:37:03,000 --> 00:37:11,070again, Alex, clearly a lawyer.So he's basing this on that58700:37:11,070 --> 00:37:12,990Oracle Java lawsuit?58800:37:13,529 --> 00:37:17,039Oh, right. You remember that?Yeah, of course. Of course. Who58900:37:17,039 --> 00:37:17,669doesn't?59000:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,690Yeah, where it was like, I thinkthey sued Google because Google59100:37:21,690 --> 00:37:26,010had created Kotlin programminglanguage that makes it almost59200:37:26,010 --> 00:37:34,050exactly the Java API. And sothen, of course, Oracle lost59300:37:34,050 --> 00:37:39,630that lawsuit. They lost it and asaying, Well, you know, this, if59400:37:39,630 --> 00:37:42,300they if if you can't evencopyright a programming language59500:37:42,300 --> 00:37:45,660API, then you surely can'tcopyright. Like an XML59600:37:45,660 --> 00:37:49,560namespace. Right? Because thenyou're I mean, you're talking59700:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,770about you're getting even, liketwo levels of abstraction even59800:37:52,770 --> 00:37:57,210higher than that. You know,there again, I don't know. I59900:37:57,210 --> 00:38:00,720mean, we're not lawyers, butthat seems okay to me.60000:38:01,410 --> 00:38:05,610Well, the thing is, the lawdoesn't actually matter to60100:38:05,610 --> 00:38:08,040Apple. If they don't like it,they can sue you anyway, and60200:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,420make your life difficult. Justwhat it is. Right? So there's60300:38:12,420 --> 00:38:12,930that60400:38:13,770 --> 00:38:14,790they wouldn't sue us.60500:38:15,090 --> 00:38:19,890Well, what's there to sue? Goahead. Hey, could you please60600:38:19,890 --> 00:38:22,620help us open the bank account soyou can sue us over it?60700:38:23,130 --> 00:38:26,850Oh, that's genius.60800:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,120Hope I help us open this andthen you can take all our money,60900:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,080please. By the way, speaking ofbig tech, everything has kind of61000:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,620cooled down now that things arechanging in the world. As we61100:38:37,620 --> 00:38:43,050move towards the great reset.You know, we have earnings, not61200:38:43,050 --> 00:38:46,020turning out so good supplychains are hurting companies.61300:38:46,020 --> 00:38:50,670We're seeing stock prices downrevenues down. We're seeing61400:38:50,670 --> 00:38:53,910Facebook going silent onpodcasting. We're seeing YouTube61500:38:53,910 --> 00:38:59,580going silent on podcasting.Hello. So predictable all of it.61600:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120There's no money for these forthese companies in podcasting.61700:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,730There's no money they thoughtthey could get in on the61800:39:05,730 --> 00:39:10,470clubhouse vibe. clubhouse died.For all intents and purposes,61900:39:10,470 --> 00:39:14,340I'm sure I'm sure it's beingused. But it's not it's not a62000:39:14,340 --> 00:39:14,850thing.62100:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,240I've got a little bit ofspeaking to YouTube. A little62200:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,280bit of some stuff on that soever. Spotify brought out their62300:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,950video stuff this week. Theirproprietary video62400:39:28,980 --> 00:39:33,510has just the you couldn't youcan upload video to Spotify and62500:39:33,510 --> 00:39:36,600you can see it only if you havea Spotify account. Yeah.62600:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,470Which to me is it's not a policyuseless thing in the whole world62700:39:40,470 --> 00:39:43,410does it produce a feed is doesit have an actual feed even even62800:39:43,410 --> 00:39:44,730if it's internal to Spotify?62900:39:45,570 --> 00:39:50,670The way I understand it is thatif it it does have a fee. And if63000:39:50,670 --> 00:39:55,680you listen to it through thefeed, then you don't see the63100:39:55,680 --> 00:40:01,650video. Somehow it's only audioUh, I could be completely wrong63200:40:01,650 --> 00:40:04,890about that, but I thought that'sthe way it is. You only see the63300:40:04,890 --> 00:40:09,810video. Holy crap. Is that you?Oh, yeah, I got a blue like one63400:40:09,810 --> 00:40:10,410of those Amber63500:40:10,410 --> 00:40:12,030Alert. Oh, we'll read it.63600:40:12,990 --> 00:40:15,600Blue alert. It's a blue. What'sour blue alert?63700:40:15,630 --> 00:40:16,530What's the blue alert?63800:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,690Oh cop cop Shopska blue alertLauderdale County white female63900:40:21,690 --> 00:40:25,320corrections officer Vicki whitemissing in line of duty suspect64000:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,110as a white male inmate Caseywhite Casey White is 38 year old64100:40:28,110 --> 00:40:30,810white male six foot six weighing252 pounds well.64200:40:32,910 --> 00:40:36,570Easy to track. He's moving slow.64300:40:38,250 --> 00:40:41,430with it. He's wearing a hat.Okay,64400:40:41,610 --> 00:40:44,790you clearly clearly don't havegraphene, we turn that off on64500:40:44,790 --> 00:40:47,340our on our open source operatingsystems. Dave?64600:40:47,970 --> 00:40:51,330Have you been in like an airportor a coffee shop or something64700:40:51,330 --> 00:40:52,500when everybody's goes off?64800:40:52,530 --> 00:40:57,390Hilarious. It's hilarious. It'sall different. Yes. Very64900:40:57,390 --> 00:41:00,990disturbing. It gives you it'slike a disaster movie vibe that65000:41:00,990 --> 00:41:03,270I don't enjoy at all at all.65100:41:03,390 --> 00:41:07,890Set total Scott. Okay, so we'retalking about we're talking65200:41:07,890 --> 00:41:11,280about Spotify? Yes. Becausevideo. Yeah, I don't know. But I65300:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,260mean, this sort of fits intothis whole I mean, clearly they65400:41:16,260 --> 00:41:19,650want to be you too. They want totake try to make a weird YouTube65500:41:19,650 --> 00:41:25,110push. Yeah, but and as I was,I've been going back and65600:41:25,110 --> 00:41:29,100listening to a found I found anold sand like an old storage65700:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,880area network box. This is fromlike, I don't know, 12 years65800:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,780ago, and it booted up it worked.Yeah, man, it worked fine. It65900:41:36,780 --> 00:41:39,810was an old Western Digital sharespace66000:41:39,810 --> 00:41:43,050make sure you you you look forany Bitcoin related stuff.66100:41:43,050 --> 00:41:45,660That's always where you findlike some bitcoin. Those things66200:41:45,660 --> 00:41:48,990like a wallet. Yeah, an oldwallet. Exactly. Wow, what's66300:41:48,990 --> 00:41:50,400this? Oh, you66400:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,480know what? I'm telling you to dothat dad on them telling you66500:41:55,470 --> 00:42:00,270that's a good call actually, I'mgonna read the new so I was66600:42:00,270 --> 00:42:02,880looking through this thing inhis guest so much old stuff on66700:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,390it that I had. But there is afolder in there called lectures.66800:42:07,170 --> 00:42:13,830And I looked through it it's abunch of old like, lectures from66900:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,950the Mises Institute and oldlike, religious stuff, like old67000:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,590pastors and sermons and all thiskind of stuff. They used to67100:42:22,590 --> 00:42:27,930listen to all this stuff inthere and I'm find this thing67200:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,530from this like maybe early 90s,maybe 93. From a guy named James67300:42:34,530 --> 00:42:39,690Boyce. James boys, of course.Now there's two James boys67400:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,010maybe I don't know James voice.There's there's like a James67500:42:44,040 --> 00:42:51,390Boyce and a James P. Boyce. Andthis guy was a preacher. And he67600:42:51,390 --> 00:42:54,540was probably most famous fordoing this old radio show called67700:42:54,540 --> 00:43:02,610the Bible. Gosh, what was itcalled, like the Bible study67800:43:02,610 --> 00:43:05,580hour. That's what it was. Biblestudy hour. And it was67900:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,070originally as this guy namedDonald grade Barnhouse. But then68000:43:08,070 --> 00:43:13,770James boys took it up. Andinteresting guy, he died. He68100:43:13,770 --> 00:43:19,050died about 10 or 12 years ago ofpancreatic cancer. He had to68200:43:19,050 --> 00:43:21,600show this radio show for a longtime in he's really good68300:43:21,600 --> 00:43:27,330speaker. What I had this oldlecture of him talking about the68400:43:27,330 --> 00:43:30,600book, amusing ourselves to deathby Neil post,68500:43:30,630 --> 00:43:33,690of course, is fantastic book.And there's even an updated68600:43:33,690 --> 00:43:37,950version of that, which I thinkpostman son contributed to. A68700:43:37,950 --> 00:43:40,770really Yeah, it's an updatedversion. Yes, a great book68800:43:41,370 --> 00:43:44,820was I started listening to itwhile I was doing some work. And68900:43:44,970 --> 00:43:48,810it really reminded me of thedifference. It seemed69000:43:48,810 --> 00:43:51,630appropriate for this wholedebate around video and audio,69100:43:51,690 --> 00:43:57,930like video versus audio almost.In sort of what what's going on69200:43:57,930 --> 00:44:00,600if he's sort of step back fromthe podcasting angle,69300:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,070necessarily, and just thinkabout it on video versus audio69400:44:05,280 --> 00:44:13,470on its own. And he's talkingabout he's uses this term as a69500:44:13,470 --> 00:44:18,150ref reference to a speech thatTed Koppel gave at Duke69600:44:18,150 --> 00:44:25,020University, about television.And he says that he uses this69700:44:25,020 --> 00:44:27,720term that we've been van attireused69800:44:29,430 --> 00:44:31,320as an Vanna White, is in Vanna69900:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,570White. So if you, you can playthat clip. Yeah. And you70000:44:36,570 --> 00:44:42,420said in the first line, Americahas been the sanitized and then70100:44:42,420 --> 00:44:44,730he knew nobody knew what thatmeant, because he was coining70200:44:44,730 --> 00:44:48,330the word. So the next line ofthe address said that's vanities70300:44:48,330 --> 00:44:52,020as in Vanna White. She is verypopular That program's been on a70400:44:52,020 --> 00:44:55,590long time it makes a lot ofmoney. And as you know, her her70500:44:55,590 --> 00:44:59,760job. It's not what you wouldcall demanding Vanna White70600:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,870stuff. ends on one side of thegame board and the contestants70700:45:03,870 --> 00:45:06,660are calling out letters and theblocks up, they're represented.70800:45:06,660 --> 00:45:10,290And as they call it out, shewalks across and touches. The70900:45:10,290 --> 00:45:13,560letter was then lights up, ifthat's the right letter, and71000:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,020when she gets over to this sideof the game board, she turns71100:45:16,020 --> 00:45:22,470around like that. And she clapsher hands that's well, called71200:45:22,470 --> 00:45:26,490attention to how popular she is.And then he asked his question,71300:45:26,490 --> 00:45:30,810he said, How can she be sopopular when we don't know71400:45:30,810 --> 00:45:33,930anything about her? And thereason we don't know anything71500:45:33,930 --> 00:45:37,320about her is that she never saysa word. She doesn't say anything71600:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,620about herself. And so Ted Koppelasked the question, Is she a71700:45:40,620 --> 00:45:44,970feminist? Every male chauvinistdream. And then he answered his71800:45:44,970 --> 00:45:47,910own question. He says, She'swhatever you want her to be71900:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,530sister, lover, daughter forever.Those are his own words. If72000:45:52,530 --> 00:45:56,400you're a young girl, and you'removing into adolescence, and72100:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560you're a little bit uncertainabout yourself, I think some of72200:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,140the model of what you could be,you know, when you grow up, if72300:46:01,140 --> 00:46:04,020you're unhappy in a marriage,you might think mistress like72400:46:04,020 --> 00:46:06,540that, or whatever it might be.And so what can come up with is72500:46:06,540 --> 00:46:10,200saying is that television islike that. When television72600:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,260functions as television, itdoesn't function the way we72700:46:13,260 --> 00:46:16,320think it does. We think of thescreen up there pouring out all72800:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,100this information at us. So we'rebetter informed, more thoughtful72900:46:20,100 --> 00:46:22,920than any people on the play faceof the planet I've ever been. He73000:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,890said, It doesn't work that way.What television does is put up73100:46:25,890 --> 00:46:30,660pictures into which we projectour aspirations. And the better73200:46:30,660 --> 00:46:33,330television does that the betterit is more successful. It is.73300:46:34,620 --> 00:46:36,180Wow, that's good.73400:46:37,050 --> 00:46:41,130Yeah, that that was prettyinteresting, pretty interesting73500:46:41,130 --> 00:46:44,490idea that you don't you're not,he goes on a little bit further,73600:46:44,700 --> 00:46:49,500later and talks about just the,the nature of images versus that73700:46:49,500 --> 00:46:54,120he's talking really about thewritten word. But this, this got73800:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,710me thinking about podcasting.Because, you know, if you think73900:46:58,710 --> 00:47:03,750about the nature of images, likehe said, as you, you're just74000:47:03,750 --> 00:47:07,710being shown things in order tokeep you watching, engaging,74100:47:07,740 --> 00:47:10,800engaged, yeah. Was it like thatthe you know, the alpha wave, or74200:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,730whatever of your brain is justlike, it's so hard when there's74300:47:14,730 --> 00:47:19,710video playing in a room to lookaway from the video. It's almost74400:47:19,710 --> 00:47:24,600impossible. Sometimes. He'stalking about spoken word,74500:47:24,870 --> 00:47:28,830excuse me, not spoken word, butwritten word is interact with74600:47:28,830 --> 00:47:33,810your brain in a completelydifferent way. Yes, and no, go74700:47:33,810 --> 00:47:34,110ahead.74800:47:34,170 --> 00:47:36,330I'm listening. I have somethingto say later.74900:47:36,780 --> 00:47:45,270And so podcasting really touchesas close to the written word as75000:47:45,270 --> 00:47:51,120possible. It's, to me, it's verymuch like almost like oral75100:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,710tradition. Where you're engagingwith we know there's this75200:47:55,710 --> 00:47:58,620personalization thing thathappens with the spoken word,75300:47:58,620 --> 00:48:03,060and it's in particularpodcasting. Podcasting, fits in75400:48:03,060 --> 00:48:09,060at a societal level, podcastingfits in what we used to know as75500:48:09,060 --> 00:48:15,240oral tradition. Because yes,there's radio. And yes, radio a75600:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,690spoken word a lot of times, butbut you can't interact with you75700:48:18,690 --> 00:48:22,320can't stop the radio in thissort of like, think about what75800:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,990you just heard and give back.And that kind of thing. He talks75900:48:24,990 --> 00:48:27,660about that in images versusWords, Part One.76000:48:28,980 --> 00:48:34,140And what postman is saying isthis. Television does not76100:48:34,140 --> 00:48:37,650communicate by words thatcommunicates by images. And so76200:48:37,650 --> 00:48:40,740he contrasts the age oftelevision, with the age of76300:48:40,740 --> 00:48:43,800typography, which has to do withputting things in tight the76400:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,930words. Now he says words,operate rationally. In other76500:48:48,930 --> 00:48:51,990words, they encourage thought,you read a newspaper, you read a76600:48:51,990 --> 00:48:55,860book, read an article, there's acertain distance between you and76700:48:55,860 --> 00:49:01,410the printed page, you have timeto think about it. It encourages76800:49:01,410 --> 00:49:04,620reaction disagree, you thinkabout why you disagree. If you76900:49:04,740 --> 00:49:08,490agree, you think about why youagree. It produces a sequence of77000:49:08,490 --> 00:49:11,340thought, conclusions, and soforth. Television doesn't do77100:49:11,340 --> 00:49:15,990that. What television does, isthrow up a sequence of images,77200:49:15,990 --> 00:49:19,650one after the other, in order tokeep you watching that channel.77300:49:19,650 --> 00:49:22,980So you don't switch to anotherchannel. And so they can sell77400:49:22,980 --> 00:49:27,240commercials. That's the way itworks. And so he says, what77500:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,180essentially happens ontelevision is entertainment.77600:49:30,810 --> 00:49:33,870That doesn't mean the televisioncan't, to certain degree, do77700:49:33,870 --> 00:49:36,480other things. And it doesn'tapply, I think, in the same way77800:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,690to videos, training videos, andso forth. That's a different77900:49:39,690 --> 00:49:44,070thing. But television as itfunctions in society, the sort78000:49:44,070 --> 00:49:46,890of thing people watch isessentially entertainment. Now,78100:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,920you say to that, well, so whywhat's wrong with entertainment?78200:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,250The answer, of course, isnothing. You might as well watch78300:49:53,250 --> 00:49:55,680a movie on television and go toa theater to see it. It's78400:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,070cheaper anyway. But what iswrong with television is that it78500:49:59,070 --> 00:50:02,940pretends to be More thanentertainment. And to the extent78600:50:02,940 --> 00:50:06,240that it puts something seriouson television, it tends to78700:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,320trivialize it and turn it intoentertainment. So postman then78800:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,950begins to work through differentcategories. He talks about news78900:50:13,950 --> 00:50:19,290on television, you know that theaverage new segment on network79000:50:19,290 --> 00:50:21,540television, this is stuff out inNew York, you know where you're79100:50:21,540 --> 00:50:24,600supposed to get it and a littlegreater depth. And then locally,79200:50:24,720 --> 00:50:30,480the average segment on networktelevision is 45 seconds. What,79300:50:30,510 --> 00:50:34,290how much can you learn in 45seconds. Furthermore, it's not79400:50:34,290 --> 00:50:37,260just the duration, that's aproblem, it's switching so79500:50:37,260 --> 00:50:40,200quickly to something else, thatyou don't get time actually79600:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,110think about what you haveactually heard, even though it's79700:50:43,110 --> 00:50:43,530short.79800:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,730Alright, this is where typicallyI mentioned this once every79900:50:47,730 --> 00:50:52,740year, or once every two years onno agenda. Put it in the show80000:50:52,740 --> 00:50:57,840notes. It's called the Zen TVexperiment, in the Zen TV80100:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,730experiment is designed to showyou what is happening to you,80200:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,420and what you are doing whenyou're watching television. And80300:51:06,420 --> 00:51:09,600it is, and you should really doit this thing, but there's weird80400:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,860things in there, like, watch theTV for 20 minutes with the sound80500:51:13,860 --> 00:51:17,340off. And then it's watched theTV for 20 minutes with only the80600:51:17,340 --> 00:51:20,670sound and no video. And thenit's watched the TV for 2080700:51:20,670 --> 00:51:23,970minutes with no sound and novideo, you know, and then then80800:51:23,970 --> 00:51:27,150it goes into all the techniquesthey call it's classified as80900:51:27,150 --> 00:51:31,350technical events, all the thingsthat that your brain just is81000:51:31,350 --> 00:51:34,410okay with like we're inside,boom, we're outside. So you81100:51:34,410 --> 00:51:37,200filled in the hole going downthe steps, you know, opening the81200:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,390doors, all that stuff. And it'sa really try do it at least81300:51:42,390 --> 00:51:44,550once. It's good to review it.You don't have to do all the81400:51:44,550 --> 00:51:47,880exercises. But you get the pointreal quick. And you had Holy81500:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,420crap.81600:51:49,050 --> 00:51:50,970There's a lot is an onlinething.81700:51:52,140 --> 00:51:54,780Yeah, had been pointing to thisfor 15 years.81800:51:55,259 --> 00:51:56,729I've never heard you talk aboutthis.81900:51:58,980 --> 00:52:02,940You don't love my shows? Man. Idon't I don't have the Cintiq.82000:52:02,970 --> 00:52:08,010It's adam.nz, the Zen TVexperiment. How many of you know82100:52:08,010 --> 00:52:12,120how to watch television? It's inthe it's in the show notes for82200:52:12,120 --> 00:52:19,140today's episode. I forget whothis guy is. The whole site, he82300:52:19,140 --> 00:52:22,410explains the whole site. So it'sgood. Now I want to say82400:52:22,410 --> 00:52:25,680something else before you get topart two. Yes, sir. I worked82500:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,560with Vanna White in the MTVdays. And a couple of things.82600:52:31,950 --> 00:52:38,370Very smart. Very kind, verycute, obviously. Although, you82700:52:38,370 --> 00:52:44,250know, I don't want to say and itdoesn't matter. Her manager kind82800:52:44,250 --> 00:52:48,780of a sleazeball. Her agent. Herepresented like Playboy Bunnies82900:52:48,780 --> 00:52:53,880and stuff. No. Vanna Whitesignificantly older than I am.83000:52:54,300 --> 00:52:57,540And I just remember like, wow,because I was maybe 30 Something83100:52:57,540 --> 00:53:01,920she was 50 like wow. Becauseyeah, pretty Yes. No, we were in83200:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,760a situation we we connected verywell. You know, like we were83300:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,940working together on the show.And she said something very83400:53:08,940 --> 00:53:13,020important she said you know Doyou know why the way everything83500:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,020works so well on this is we'retalking about Wheel of Fortune,83600:53:16,020 --> 00:53:19,830the Wheel of Fortune syndicatedin you know, 5000 countries, as83700:53:19,830 --> 00:53:23,580everyone knows that everyone hastheir own local Vanna White to83800:53:23,580 --> 00:53:25,680know why it works so well. It'snot as well this is Merv83900:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,100Griffin. He's famous televisionproducer who created those King84000:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,830world's entertainment createdthe Wheel of Fortune many other84100:53:31,830 --> 00:53:35,130shows like that, including theTonight Show was also Merv84200:53:35,130 --> 00:53:39,510Griffin. As she said the secretthat Merv Griffin always applies84300:53:39,540 --> 00:53:42,870people on television are verysuccessful if they have a big84400:53:42,870 --> 00:53:45,030head physically a big head84500:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,270she has a very big head she's84600:53:48,270 --> 00:53:52,980very tiny. Patsy Jack has a bighead Jay Leno The Tonight Show84700:53:52,980 --> 00:53:59,460big head and that is a big Soexactly what voice is talking84800:53:59,460 --> 00:54:05,460about here? Is this it's so wellknown that the visual aspects do84900:54:05,460 --> 00:54:08,520certain things to keep youengaged. That Merv Griffin85000:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,370apparently figured out big headskeep people engaged85100:54:13,380 --> 00:54:14,250Yeah, that85200:54:15,150 --> 00:54:18,990that zero content value but itworks.85300:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,090What was interesting to me aboutthis and hearing you talk about85400:54:24,090 --> 00:54:30,510it even even just submits it.Yes. How much how much YouTube85500:54:30,900 --> 00:54:36,330has taken all of these aspectsand like random not even you not85600:54:36,330 --> 00:54:41,550just YouTube? Tick tock Morsonyes take as turned it up to 1185700:54:41,580 --> 00:54:48,030Yes. Make because you've gotyou've got the rapid smash cuts85800:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,990the the big head thing becausethey're always right up in the85900:54:51,990 --> 00:54:53,640camera so they're Hey, yes.Manga86000:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,720you nailed it. That's exactlyright. Do that and even the even86100:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,660the poster images that promotethe video will Show that you86200:55:00,660 --> 00:55:01,020bet.86300:55:02,610 --> 00:55:06,390And I mean that this, this ishow this is how you become86400:55:06,390 --> 00:55:10,950successful in video in the worldof video, which is completely86500:55:11,580 --> 00:55:15,180regular your average audiopodcaster is not prepared for86600:55:15,180 --> 00:55:16,890this in any way whatsoever.86700:55:16,890 --> 00:55:20,520No way. No way. No way. No way.No, this is this is we're just86800:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,830now really discovering how allthis stuff works.86900:55:23,460 --> 00:55:28,410And he, I'd say probably bringhome in part two here.87000:55:29,880 --> 00:55:38,280When Nixon lost to Kennedy, backin, in 60. He the wisdom of of87100:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,580the campaign managers was thatit was because of the televised87200:55:41,580 --> 00:55:46,440debate. And if you can recallwhat was said back there, Nixon87300:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,070came off hard in a cool medium,and Kennedy came off cool and87400:55:50,070 --> 00:55:54,030the cool medium. So he didbetter. They did a survey of87500:55:54,030 --> 00:55:57,660people after that televiseddebate. And they learned a lot.87600:55:57,690 --> 00:56:01,980They learned that when theyasked people who had listened to87700:56:01,980 --> 00:56:08,070the debate on radio, by largepercentages, like 60 70%, people87800:56:08,070 --> 00:56:11,640thought that Nixon had won thedebate. And when they surveyed87900:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,450people who had watched it ontelevision, by almost the exact88000:56:15,450 --> 00:56:18,780numbers, but the inverse thoughtthat Kennedy had won the debate,88100:56:19,380 --> 00:56:22,020because he is telling yousomething, it's the image that's88200:56:22,020 --> 00:56:25,410communicating, not actually thecontent of what's being said.88300:56:26,220 --> 00:56:31,980Exactly. Yeah. And do is that,you know, is that what, that's88400:56:31,980 --> 00:56:35,640not what most podcasters aretrying to do? That's not what88500:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,740they're trying to accomplish?Me. You know, there's, there's88600:56:37,740 --> 00:56:40,770some but I mean, there's mostpodcasters are trying to88700:56:40,770 --> 00:56:45,330communicate content inpersonalized connection with an88800:56:45,330 --> 00:56:48,840audience most, most podcastersI'm a traditional podcasters are88900:56:48,840 --> 00:56:55,620not burn, they're not going forjust the quick, you low hanging89000:56:55,620 --> 00:57:03,150money fruit approach. And that,I'd say, I mean, for me, I'll89100:57:03,150 --> 00:57:07,920tell personally, for me, I mean,for me, this, this show, is an89200:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,560outlet for the things that Ithink about during the week. And89300:57:13,950 --> 00:57:20,400that's not something that I'mgoing to be able to communicate89400:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,280in for second, smash cuts.89500:57:23,910 --> 00:57:30,900Here's my, my take on this videopodcast, YouTube's you know, we89600:57:30,900 --> 00:57:34,080have people with headphones, andmicrophones and talk and stuff.89700:57:35,190 --> 00:57:38,820I think it's a, it's just myfeeling, I have no data to back89800:57:38,820 --> 00:57:43,590it up. I don't know, my feelingis what works well is that it's89900:57:43,590 --> 00:57:47,610highly clickable. So you can sosomeone can either link to a90000:57:47,610 --> 00:57:51,510time code or typically like aRogen, stuff gets clipped, you90100:57:51,510 --> 00:57:53,880know, there's, here's eightminutes, here's 10 minutes, and90200:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,710a lot of people watch that. Andthat's really relevant. It's90300:57:58,710 --> 00:58:01,200kind of an you know, for eightminutes watching the videos90400:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,410like, oh, that's exciting, youknow, I'm looking at the studio,90500:58:04,410 --> 00:58:07,710and, you know, there's a lot ofthings that are influencing what90600:58:07,710 --> 00:58:10,770I'm seeing, and it's like memes,you know, it's the same thing, a90700:58:10,770 --> 00:58:14,700meme can be very, very powerful.I agree completely with you, to90800:58:14,700 --> 00:58:18,870me, and I've, I've always been aradio guy, I want to build a90900:58:18,870 --> 00:58:22,380vision in your head. So that youare thinking about where's my91000:58:22,380 --> 00:58:25,200studio when you know, what am Iwearing? What is it dark? Is it91100:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,620am I wearing green visor? Youknow, these kinds of things.91200:58:28,920 --> 00:58:36,960And, and, and the I've foundsuccess in building a community91300:58:36,960 --> 00:58:43,140of people around every singleshow that I do. And that's very91400:58:43,140 --> 00:58:49,080different from having clipsthat, you know, suck people in91500:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,510and they, they're done andthey're gone. And you got a91600:58:51,510 --> 00:58:55,140couple of couple of hits foryour video for YouTube views and91700:58:55,140 --> 00:58:59,850your YouTube money. It's just adifferent isn't, you know, it's91800:58:59,850 --> 00:59:01,200what people want to do. I know.91900:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,820Doesn't it ultimately all becometick tock. I mean, isn't that92000:59:05,820 --> 00:59:09,570where everything? I mean, Ithink tick tock? That to me. The92100:59:09,570 --> 00:59:14,820crazy thing about tick tock isthat they they took all of the92200:59:14,820 --> 00:59:20,820obvious things about YouTube andabout social media money making,92300:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,750and a quick hit and a viralillness. And they just jumped to92400:59:24,750 --> 00:59:25,620the finish line.92500:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,280They went through. Yeah,92600:59:29,460 --> 00:59:33,030they're like, you know, screwit. Let's just jump to the end92700:59:33,030 --> 00:59:33,810of this thing. Well,92800:59:33,810 --> 00:59:36,390yeah, they did a couple of verysmart things yet so they they92900:59:36,390 --> 00:59:39,420completely programmed it for thedopamine hit for the laugh for93000:59:39,420 --> 00:59:42,630the joke for the Oh, that'sgreat. You know, all that stuff.93100:59:42,630 --> 00:59:50,880The quick share the quick likethe et cetera. Et Yes, you're93200:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,510right. They jumped straight tothe finish line. The genius was93300:59:54,780 --> 00:59:58,230licensing the music so everybodycan use the music and do their93400:59:58,230 --> 01:00:02,370dances. No They're different,whatever the vibe is, you know,93501:00:02,370 --> 01:00:06,660there's the dead the dead animalwho Music There's the93601:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,960oh my god, the American KennelClub.93701:00:09,990 --> 01:00:12,930Oh my god, you hear the dead.It's either the dead dog or the93801:00:12,930 --> 01:00:17,070dead child like, swipe. We'reall Tina and I will sit down.93901:00:17,580 --> 01:00:20,670We'll do one hour a week, maybe.But she doesn't do tick tock.94001:00:20,670 --> 01:00:25,020She has Instagram reels, whichis mainly repurpose tick tock94101:00:25,020 --> 01:00:29,790content. And it's totallyenjoyable for an hour. We're94201:00:29,790 --> 01:00:31,620sitting there, we're laughingour asses off and then we're94301:00:31,620 --> 01:00:34,380like, don't we just also we'relike, I'm disgusted with myself.94401:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,250Me too. But it's all it's, it'sall of the it's all the music is94501:00:38,250 --> 01:00:41,010really genius, too, but it's adifferent product. You know,94601:00:41,010 --> 01:00:42,390it's crack. It's a little crack.94701:00:43,020 --> 01:00:47,250Yeah, yeah. And we all know whatcrack does. Yeah.94801:00:47,580 --> 01:00:48,450Makes you feel good.94901:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,580Until it doesn't.95001:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,340Yeah, exactly. So that's exactlywhat it is.95101:00:54,750 --> 01:00:56,700Anyway, just thought justthoughts on the whole video95201:00:56,700 --> 01:00:57,870thing I don't. That's very95301:00:57,870 --> 01:01:01,500that's I like that. It's a verydeep that we just learned. You95401:01:01,500 --> 01:01:05,400know, this curry in the keeperpodcast. We live in95501:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,800Fredericksburg. There's 10,000people that live here. Gillespie95601:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,700county is bigger. But now we'reunder the auspices of Austin and95701:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,330San Antonio. So we're justtalking about our guy who you95801:01:15,330 --> 01:01:18,900know, helps us with a garden andyou know, Mike, the ex cop who's95901:01:18,900 --> 01:01:22,890building a railing for us youknow, we got Greg the Greg the96001:01:22,890 --> 01:01:25,680welder and we're just talkingabout these people. Oh my god96101:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,740and stuff comes back like thewhole town is listening. Hey,96201:01:28,740 --> 01:01:31,500man, I heard you talk you saidthis about that guy. And it's96301:01:31,500 --> 01:01:31,800like,96401:01:31,950 --> 01:01:34,620what? On the show? Yeah,96501:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,920no, no, it's Korean. The keeperTina and I just carrying the96601:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,740keeper here. We're just talkingabout shit going on in our life.96701:01:40,770 --> 01:01:43,470You know? And it's like, Well,someone heard you're talking96801:01:43,470 --> 01:01:48,840about the bubble bus and she'sgot the pink limos and it's like96901:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,640small town but it's really coolto see what influence a podcast97001:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,200can have and it's just audio.97101:01:55,650 --> 01:01:59,400Soon carrying the keeper is likebanging mags at local access97201:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,820radio.97301:02:00,150 --> 01:02:03,810It's like Wayne's World. Andonly with with with Ricky and97401:02:03,810 --> 01:02:08,550Lucy. And Tina's like, I seeyour celebrity babies. Now as97501:02:09,900 --> 01:02:15,090you watch this hilarious, so youknow that kind of stuff is I97601:02:15,090 --> 01:02:18,750live for that Dave? I live whatwe're doing right? I'm happy as97701:02:18,750 --> 01:02:23,460a pig and shit. I love that shitis working. I love we got more97801:02:23,460 --> 01:02:29,280people coming in and using thedevalue block. I mean, I love97901:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,960this live stuff. It's crazy. Youknow, we're like, okay, stuff is98001:02:33,990 --> 01:02:37,440in it right now. I'm seeing theboost bot is now posting in the98101:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,100chat room that just magicallyhappened, though. I saw I just98201:02:41,100 --> 01:02:45,510saw it. Yeah, this this is somuch fun. And you know, I got98301:02:45,510 --> 01:02:48,450people chomping at the bit. Igot Moe waiting in the wings.98401:02:48,450 --> 01:02:51,330He's like, I'm ready to go. I'mready to go. Can we start98501:02:51,930 --> 01:02:56,940parallel streaming topodcasting. 2.0. And then he98601:02:56,940 --> 01:03:00,510wants to drop YouTube. Nice.Yeah, he's never he's never98701:03:00,510 --> 01:03:03,600monetized on YouTubes. And thenwe would do an auto podcast to98801:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,890No, no, he refuses. He refuses?No. Why? Why? Because he doesn't98901:03:07,890 --> 01:03:10,590he doesn't want to get caught upin relying on it.99001:03:10,950 --> 01:03:13,590Gotcha. Okay, well, that'sperfect. Yeah, and thanks a lot.99101:03:13,590 --> 01:03:15,810And he also was very clear everytime hey, we're just here99201:03:15,810 --> 01:03:18,210temporarily get ready becausewe're gonna move over to99301:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,840podcasting. 2.0 when we have thecomments set up and right now99401:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,420with this live, this is good.You know, we got the chat room,99501:03:24,420 --> 01:03:28,530we got the equivalent of thesuper chats we got the the boost99601:03:28,530 --> 01:03:33,240bot is spewing messageseverywhere. This is exciting.99701:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,910Okay, well, let me throwsomething at you then. Because99801:03:35,910 --> 01:03:38,250I've had this. I had thisthought a couple of weeks ago,99901:03:38,250 --> 01:03:45,690and I had it written down here.What there's this, you know, the100001:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,890all the rage now is the greaterthe like social audio green100101:03:49,890 --> 01:03:56,700room, all this kind of stuff.And I'm listening to Linux100201:03:56,760 --> 01:03:57,420unplugged.100301:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,310They talk about me on the shownow. Oh, do they? Yeah. Because100401:04:02,310 --> 01:04:06,570I boosted Graham them and said,Hey, how do you guys check all100501:04:06,570 --> 01:04:08,850those distros without ruiningall of your show?100601:04:08,850 --> 01:04:11,040Yeah, yeah. Man, I've100701:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,490like those guys are there I'mpart of their community.100801:04:15,030 --> 01:04:18,450Well, one thing they do is everynow and then, so they have this100901:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,200constant. They have this livethey have the live thing. Yeah.101001:04:22,890 --> 01:04:26,700And every now and then they'llthrow out. They have some sort101101:04:26,700 --> 01:04:33,240of connection back to the roomwhere they can say something and101201:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,790just like, let somebody elsetalk back. Hmm, that sounds101301:04:38,910 --> 01:04:39,720pretty cool.101401:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,070And what are they using? Do weknow?101501:04:41,490 --> 01:04:45,060I have no idea. I want to findout but I wonder if that that101601:04:45,060 --> 01:04:49,500could be part of a differentspec where like, like an open101701:04:49,710 --> 01:04:52,980net. See, I'm not interested inthe whole Twitter spaces,101801:04:53,310 --> 01:04:56,250clubhouse, all that kind ofstuff where it's like this big101901:04:56,310 --> 01:04:59,310where it's essentially just likea, like a log of dumb Zoom102001:04:59,310 --> 01:05:07,920meeting. But the ability to say,you know, hey, C Dubs. What can102101:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,160you tell me what you like to aska question and then they can102201:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,540like talk back for a second andlike, you're like asking them to102301:05:16,020 --> 01:05:20,730participate for a moment I mean,you're not you're not turning102401:05:20,730 --> 01:05:24,120over your show to some to like20 random strangers but you102501:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,420know, you click a button andthen they can they can talk.102601:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,220I mean, that sounds kind of whatcould102701:05:29,220 --> 01:05:30,270possibly go wrong.102801:05:30,629 --> 01:05:33,779Nothing and I think this isperfectly legitimate.102901:05:34,980 --> 01:05:36,960Anyway, well that's that'sdefinitely there's something103001:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,890more on the production side morethan I don't know if that's a if103101:05:40,890 --> 01:05:45,180that's if a namespace thing. Ithink it could be I'm open to103201:05:45,180 --> 01:05:45,390it.103301:05:45,899 --> 01:05:49,589By the way, that's the thing nowyou know, the clubhouse thing is103401:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,000my so to talk about this realquick. So I had another horrible103501:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,150crash with the Windows machinewas on the road with no agenda.103601:05:57,990 --> 01:05:59,370You should have got a newmachine.103701:05:59,430 --> 01:06:06,660I did get a new machine. Whichone? Same one the Surface Pro103801:06:06,660 --> 01:06:08,400six. Yeah, surface six Pro.103901:06:08,850 --> 01:06:10,890Okay, now I'm going to tell youshould get a different machine104001:06:10,890 --> 01:06:11,100now104101:06:11,100 --> 01:06:15,240this probably I really like ityou know, the fold up everything104201:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,020is perfect for on the road. Sobut it was just it happens, but104301:06:19,020 --> 01:06:21,330it was a bad one was bluescreen. You're the new blue104401:06:21,330 --> 01:06:24,600screen with an extremelyinsulting frowny face emoji.104501:06:24,600 --> 01:06:30,750Fuck you, Microsoft. Yes. Sothat's so patronizing. When your104601:06:30,750 --> 01:06:34,110ship just crashed and you giveme a frowny face something went104701:06:34,110 --> 01:06:36,720wrong. I understand is104801:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,680the worst. So much of that dangloose. We're getting things104901:06:40,680 --> 01:06:41,940ready. hanging loose.105001:06:41,940 --> 01:06:49,050Yeah. So I post that on Twitterand no agenda social because,105101:06:49,350 --> 01:06:52,170you know, I'm down for 15minutes during live broadcasts,105201:06:52,170 --> 01:06:55,650like oh, people will get it. Oh,man. So I'm done with the show.105301:06:55,650 --> 01:07:01,140And there's all this like, sheuses Unix, Linux. And it just105401:07:01,140 --> 01:07:05,670went on and on and on. And I'mlike, no, because you can use105501:07:05,670 --> 01:07:08,700Linux is not compatible withwhat I need. And this is the105601:07:08,700 --> 01:07:12,180only device that does it. Thateven the new versions of it105701:07:12,180 --> 01:07:17,130don't do it right. And it's theMotu Ultralite MK four. And it105801:07:17,130 --> 01:07:21,240just went back and like no, it'salways the same. Like no, but105901:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,320you could do this if you justworked perfectly with Elsa.106001:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,340Here. Pure pipe pipe messagething wire. Okay, pipe.106101:07:31,350 --> 01:07:32,880Because I know the pipe andright106201:07:32,910 --> 01:07:37,170I'm been diving down this road.Now someone eventually shows up.106301:07:37,410 --> 01:07:40,470I think it might have been Aaronor from nogen associates. Hey,106401:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,700the AVB and I think theyreplaced this unit I'd looked at106501:07:44,700 --> 01:07:49,680it it can do everything I neededto do it will work over regular106601:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,340Wi Fi not with the real problemis managing it through this106701:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,690custom service that runs onWindows. And it had now as the106801:07:57,690 --> 01:07:59,820noise gate which is why I alwaysignored it because didn't have106901:07:59,820 --> 01:08:02,730the noise gate. And I oh this isgreat. I'm going to order one107001:08:02,730 --> 01:08:05,340maybe this is the solution and Iput out a bounty by the way. So107101:08:05,370 --> 01:08:08,490anyone who could make thismachine this box work on Linux107201:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,760$5,000 in Bitcoin, that I'mstill waiting for it.107301:08:11,940 --> 01:08:15,510I saw this tweet that's big.Because I can't believe nobody's107401:08:15,510 --> 01:08:16,110done it yet.107501:08:16,170 --> 01:08:21,060Well, I even registered domainname. Mo to Linux. On what is107601:08:21,060 --> 01:08:25,740it? I forgot what it is now.Linux mo to comment I got a.com107701:08:25,740 --> 01:08:28,920for which is points to thatthread. It's like hey, fine, go107801:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,960do it. So of course everyone haseveryone has zero solution. But107901:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,320I ordered this thing just beforewe get on the plane to fly back108001:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,890from New York. And like okaySweetwater has a boom I ordered108101:08:40,980 --> 01:08:44,250the way Sweetwater walk works isthey have a representative and108201:08:44,250 --> 01:08:47,370they call you and they and theyyour representative for that108301:08:47,370 --> 01:08:50,760purchase. And they try to upsellyou of course and it's nice108401:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,060though, so I land the guy saysHey, Adam, yes, your108501:08:54,060 --> 01:08:58,830representative here toSweetwater Hey, the Motu AVB you108601:08:58,830 --> 01:09:02,790know, well, you know there's wecan get it for you. But it may108701:09:02,790 --> 01:09:06,330take a while because most of hada big fire about a year and a108801:09:06,330 --> 01:09:10,230half ago and everything wasdestroyed. And and they can't108901:09:10,230 --> 01:09:13,110get a chips for replacement.Probably not until the end of109001:09:13,110 --> 01:09:14,4602023109101:09:14,850 --> 01:09:18,480Holy crap. How do you live? Howdo you survive that as a109201:09:18,480 --> 01:09:19,020company?109301:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,140I don't know PPP loan. I don'tknow.109401:09:22,530 --> 01:09:26,340I distinctly remember sayingthat you should buy two more Mk.109501:09:26,400 --> 01:09:31,320I know I know you were rightinto looking for him and it's109601:09:31,320 --> 01:09:37,170very hard to find. Yeah, it'shorrible. So anyway, I know we109701:09:37,170 --> 01:09:39,510got off on that tangent justthat was just a little side109801:09:39,540 --> 01:09:40,110story.109901:09:42,029 --> 01:09:44,459So but yeah, but we're stillwaiting though. We're still110001:09:44,459 --> 01:09:49,049waiting for this phantompersonalized. Pod father110101:09:49,049 --> 01:09:50,549endorsed signature box right.110201:09:50,610 --> 01:09:54,060Good luck with that. And I gotDave Jackson bless his soul.110301:09:54,660 --> 01:09:58,290Dave Jackson sends people to mewhenever he talks to somebody so110401:09:58,290 --> 01:10:04,440I get a note from What's theScarlet? You got the scarlet110501:10:04,440 --> 01:10:07,560what is it? No, I don't have thescore. I've got the EVO who made110601:10:07,620 --> 01:10:09,750who makes the Scarlet. What'sthe name of that was the brand110701:10:16,410 --> 01:10:19,830Scarlet, the name of thecompany, Scarlett, Scarlett?110801:10:20,190 --> 01:10:23,700Yes, Scarlett and something elsefocus right Focus.110901:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,380Focus. Right. That's it. That'sright.111001:10:25,650 --> 01:10:28,470So I get a note from themarketing guy. Hey, Adam, Dave111101:10:28,470 --> 01:10:31,740Jackson sent me your ways. He'svery interested in that you're111201:10:31,740 --> 01:10:34,230interested in new boxes andlike, oh, yeah, totally. You got111301:10:34,230 --> 01:10:38,850a bug? Yeah, we got a just forpodcasters is great. So do you111401:10:38,850 --> 01:10:41,820want to do you want once and youknow what? No, to send me the111501:10:41,820 --> 01:10:44,730specs. I'll be fine. Let me seethe specs in LA know if I want111601:10:44,730 --> 01:10:49,380one. I want to waste the guy'stime. So then I just like a get111701:10:49,380 --> 01:10:50,310an NDA.111801:10:51,990 --> 01:10:54,690Oh, no. I'm looking at we don'twant NDA, my111901:10:54,690 --> 01:10:57,540eyes glaze over when I forgetabout him. Like I just like, Oh,112001:10:57,540 --> 01:11:01,410look at that later. And then hesays, hey, you know, any word on112101:11:01,410 --> 01:11:05,610the NDA? So I looking at it. Hesays, By the way, here's the top112201:11:05,610 --> 01:11:08,640line specs, and he sends me thetop line specs and yep, there it112301:11:08,640 --> 01:11:16,200is. Hey, we even have loopbackinterfaces. I'm like, bro, I112401:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,660don't need to sign the NDA. Youdon't need to send the box this112501:11:18,660 --> 01:11:21,510is this is built for gamers isnot built for podcasters that112601:11:21,510 --> 01:11:24,090have it when someone in yourcompany is serious about it.112701:11:24,210 --> 01:11:27,390Happy to help them. Oh, man,thanks. I haven't even seen the112801:11:27,390 --> 01:11:28,890box myself yet. etc.112901:11:29,700 --> 01:11:33,450If you go up market enough, canyou get what you want? Like I113001:11:33,450 --> 01:11:37,830mean, if you can, can you gohigh enough expensive enough to113101:11:37,830 --> 01:11:39,150get this thing?113201:11:39,690 --> 01:11:42,900Not in the compact not in acompact form. Now then before113301:11:42,900 --> 01:11:45,600you know it, you're in pro gearand it's gonna be much bigger.113401:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,630And it's gonna need Ethernetnetworking and stuff now.113501:11:49,140 --> 01:11:50,970You're hauling around a 19 inchrack.113601:11:51,630 --> 01:11:55,740So the the Motu Ultralite MKfour does it and it's and this113701:11:55,740 --> 01:11:58,650thing was built for stagemonitor mixes. It was never113801:11:58,650 --> 01:12:00,300intended for what I'm using itfor.113901:12:01,770 --> 01:12:05,490Man. You need you need to orderfive of these things off eBay.114001:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,270Yeah. All right. Well, I knowsome people there's some people114101:12:09,270 --> 01:12:12,870who ordered one or two this it Igot it. I got you, man. That's114201:12:13,470 --> 01:12:15,720back if you ever need it. Youjust holla Yeah.114301:12:17,610 --> 01:12:22,800See? That's what I have on here.Oh, yeah. That's sort of114401:12:24,210 --> 01:12:29,700tangential to this. Insomnia.Radio Association in music.114501:12:29,700 --> 01:12:34,440Podcasting. Yeah. ringing abell. Yes. Yeah, that was your114601:12:36,510 --> 01:12:38,010buddy that showed up. It wasYes, sir.114701:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,790Yeah, the old school.114801:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,000So what is this? I want to knowabout what is the association of114901:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,400music podcasting? Because itsounds like something we need.115001:12:47,430 --> 01:12:50,970Yeah, well, we need three ofthose. Okay, we'll take three115101:12:50,970 --> 01:12:55,440association of musicBroadcasting's. So he pinged me115201:12:55,440 --> 01:12:59,940said, Hey, I really want to do amusic podcast. And can I and,115301:12:59,970 --> 01:13:05,250you know, do I? Can I play musicnow? And just stream sets to the115401:13:05,250 --> 01:13:10,500artists? I said, No. But youknow, if, if you have artists115501:13:10,500 --> 01:13:14,790who have songs that they aremaking available to you that are115601:13:14,790 --> 01:13:19,470not registered with an existingpublic rights organizations?115701:13:19,500 --> 01:13:21,420Yeah, sure. You can do that.115801:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,870And Jason Evangelia. And, youknow,115901:13:24,900 --> 01:13:28,830yes, of course. Yep. So, he,he's just getting started. It116001:13:28,830 --> 01:13:31,860was really beautiful to see hejumps in, I sent him an invite,116101:13:31,860 --> 01:13:35,820and he's like, holy crap. I haveno idea what's going on here.116201:13:35,820 --> 01:13:38,940I'm really confused. But I loveeverybody helping out with tips116301:13:38,940 --> 01:13:40,080and knowledge and stuff to help116401:13:40,080 --> 01:13:43,230catch up, catch up. Yes. Okay.Jason, we're all confused. Oh,116501:13:43,230 --> 01:13:43,530yeah. No,116601:13:43,740 --> 01:13:46,650I even said, you know, our mottowas running, you know, running116701:13:46,650 --> 01:13:49,710with scissors. So don't worry,and we all get cut.116801:13:50,190 --> 01:13:52,500That sounds like a great thing,though. Association of music,116901:13:52,500 --> 01:13:56,880podcasting. I mean, I don'tknow, is that some old group? Or117001:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,340is that still around? Or is thata thing he's trying to do? Just117101:13:59,370 --> 01:13:59,400I117201:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,480don't know, just117301:14:01,650 --> 01:14:05,760because I mean, that the reasonI bring that up really is to get117401:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,990over to this thing, which is thetaxonomy stuff. So you know, the117501:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,240economy? Yes, yes. Just isreleasing an update, and we117601:14:15,240 --> 01:14:21,330track that with the person tag.And, but then it's been brought117701:14:21,330 --> 01:14:27,930up a few times, I think Steven Bbrought it up that we need with117801:14:27,930 --> 01:14:29,790all these taxonomy things ifwe're going to do music,117901:14:29,790 --> 01:14:34,470podcasting. And be prepared tosupport all that. I mean, we118001:14:34,500 --> 01:14:39,360need to have a taxonomy thisproper for putting into the118101:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,980person tag for that stuff, too.Does that exist anywhere? It's118201:14:43,980 --> 01:14:44,460got to118301:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,000Well, I know I jumped in alittle bit on this conversation.118401:14:48,000 --> 01:14:54,720The thing is that I'm not sureif it really exists in that way.118501:14:57,450 --> 01:15:02,310Or if what exists is to limitthing, because in the music118601:15:02,310 --> 01:15:07,080business, unlike radio or eventelevision to some degree,118701:15:07,080 --> 01:15:12,780depending on the platform, film118801:15:18,449 --> 01:15:21,419you have all these differentcredits that are well118901:15:21,419 --> 01:15:25,469established in the industry. Youknow, even the even if you're119001:15:25,469 --> 01:15:29,009just a gofer just running aroundfor free interns, you know, it's119101:15:29,009 --> 01:15:32,579not about money, it's aboutposition having worked on the119201:15:32,579 --> 01:15:37,439products use me. In the musicbusiness, every credit means119301:15:37,439 --> 01:15:44,399money. Right? So the guy who waschanging the 24 track tapes back119401:15:44,399 --> 01:15:50,279in the day, also known as tapemonkey, that guy would would119501:15:50,279 --> 01:15:53,039probably get in the liner notesas a thank you, but would never119601:15:53,039 --> 01:15:55,679get a credit because that meantmoney. Because that whole119701:15:55,679 --> 01:16:00,419infrastructures around money.And what I love about the value119801:16:00,419 --> 01:16:04,649block and the splits is that youcan say, hey, this guy just119901:16:04,649 --> 01:16:07,919brought us coffee and bagelsevery morning to the studio. So120001:16:07,919 --> 01:16:13,139he's he gets a split. But butyou know, that's not necessarily120101:16:13,139 --> 01:16:14,009a taxonomy.120201:16:15,480 --> 01:16:17,820Okay, so let me let me see if Iunderstand what you're saying.120301:16:17,850 --> 01:16:21,210You're saying there probably,there definitely is a taxonomy120401:16:21,210 --> 01:16:23,970somewhere, but it's notnecessarily compatible with what120501:16:23,970 --> 01:16:25,530correct we think it's120601:16:25,530 --> 01:16:31,020going to be very, veryshortlist. So every musician can120701:16:31,020 --> 01:16:35,220get. So there's a difference forbroadcast. There are certain120801:16:35,220 --> 01:16:38,760rights and certain people getpaid for streaming. So for120901:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,850instance, no one gets paid whenit's played on the radio. The121001:16:41,850 --> 01:16:46,590artists I'm sorry, artists don'tget paid. Their ASCAP BMI, the121101:16:46,590 --> 01:16:50,250songwriter and the composer theyget paid when it's played on the121201:16:50,250 --> 01:16:52,860radio through a blanket deal,but not the artists, the artists121301:16:52,860 --> 01:16:57,930do get played paid on Spotify.It's all different. It's it's,121401:16:58,230 --> 01:17:03,990it's hose is what it is. It's,it's completely hosed. Where's121501:17:03,990 --> 01:17:08,910this? To me? The simplest is,hey, I listen to the song. I'm121601:17:08,910 --> 01:17:11,370either listening to the song asa standalone track part of an121701:17:11,370 --> 01:17:14,700album, or I'm listening to it aspart of a podcast. I know that121801:17:14,700 --> 01:17:19,830somehow a piece of my walletpayments that I find valuable to121901:17:19,830 --> 01:17:23,610me is going to the right peopledon't have to think about it.122001:17:23,910 --> 01:17:30,180But will it work with ataxonomy? I'm not sure. It has122101:17:30,180 --> 01:17:31,920to be open ended at some point.122201:17:32,730 --> 01:17:38,010Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. Imean, it goes like when I put122301:17:38,010 --> 01:17:42,720in, you know, my son's band, wasthe first one to have the value122401:17:42,720 --> 01:17:48,900box. And I think I think I justput in there like, you know,122501:17:49,080 --> 01:17:54,270drummer guitar, right. Sing, youknow, singer. I just made stuff122601:17:54,270 --> 01:18:00,120up. But, you know, I don't Idon't know, I'm split between122701:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,010the tea because I'll now want tosort of,122801:18:03,060 --> 01:18:05,970I guess use my question. Thetaxonomy is not important for122901:18:05,970 --> 01:18:09,510the value blog value blog can bewhatever it is. Right. Right.123001:18:09,510 --> 01:18:13,770Right. What is the importance ofthe taxonomy? What what is what123101:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,860by because, of course, I use itfor guests for hosts. I've never123201:18:16,860 --> 01:18:22,170gotten further than that. Whatelse? I mean, it's good for123301:18:22,170 --> 01:18:23,640Person Search, I guess. Right?123401:18:25,050 --> 01:18:28,500Yeah, right. So that would bethings like, yeah, people people123501:18:28,500 --> 01:18:31,770out there like pod chaser trackthat stuff and they would pull123601:18:31,770 --> 01:18:34,920it in, you know, or it could gostraight into like IMDB and123701:18:34,920 --> 01:18:35,640stuff like that. Or123801:18:35,640 --> 01:18:40,140I'm getting spammed through podchaser. That's unfortunate. What123901:18:40,140 --> 01:18:43,230is your son's band name? What'sthe what's the where do we find124001:18:43,230 --> 01:18:45,300I just want to put in the shownotes because we keep talking124101:18:45,300 --> 01:18:46,860about it, but never sayanything?124201:18:47,280 --> 01:18:52,830Oh, it's Tor concept. T o RC ON? Seven. But the Roman numeral124301:18:52,830 --> 01:18:54,780like VI. Torque concept.124401:18:54,930 --> 01:18:56,400Two or seven?124501:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,730is like some sort of way yourimages read images124601:18:59,730 --> 01:19:05,460are broken. Bruh mine. Here'sthe tour con images. The album124701:19:05,460 --> 01:19:06,780art images are broken.124801:19:09,180 --> 01:19:10,590cobblers kids have no shoes.124901:19:12,780 --> 01:19:14,520At least the music still works.125001:19:15,690 --> 01:19:20,610Cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's workingfor me the images working? Oh,125101:19:20,670 --> 01:19:25,020no, no, it's not. That's a bad.I don't know. It's probably some125201:19:25,020 --> 01:19:28,800of the remix content or cons.It's like a torch sounds like125301:19:28,800 --> 01:19:34,440some kind of the tornado ratingsystem. It's like, oh, the EF125401:19:34,440 --> 01:19:35,190three or125501:19:35,580 --> 01:19:37,260like a DEF CON for tornadoes.125601:19:37,290 --> 01:19:39,510Got it? Yeah, yes. Tornado DEFCON.125701:19:40,260 --> 01:19:42,960And now the main thing is who'sgoing to build an app for this?125801:19:43,860 --> 01:19:46,350See, okay, I've got that. I'vegot that right here. I've got it125901:19:46,350 --> 01:19:51,120written down. I want to we needa music podcasting app. Yeah.126001:19:51,510 --> 01:19:55,470Otherwise is not the firstperson. How long have I been126101:19:55,470 --> 01:19:56,160saying this?126201:19:57,630 --> 01:19:59,040Many moons126301:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,870hearse to create. And it's Ithink it's so much simpler than126401:20:03,900 --> 01:20:07,950than a podcast app in myopinion. If I had a second I126501:20:07,980 --> 01:20:15,900develop myself a dev that up onthe other sheet right? Here, let126601:20:15,900 --> 01:20:21,810me dev that for a second. Thefirst person to dev basket. Hey,126701:20:21,810 --> 01:20:27,210that's my jam right there, man,Apple scripts. It'll be an126801:20:27,300 --> 01:20:31,530influx of epic proportions. SoI'm kind of, I mean, Steven B is126901:20:31,530 --> 01:20:35,460clearly sovereign feeds is goingto is going to is driving the127001:20:35,460 --> 01:20:39,930feed creation process, which isjust beautiful. It just needs a127101:20:39,930 --> 01:20:43,140little explainer. I think it'sso different from podcasting,127201:20:43,320 --> 01:20:48,240you should be able to throw youryour 12 tracks on some server127301:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,630somewhere along with an RSSfeed, you don't necessarily need127401:20:51,630 --> 01:20:54,750a whole hosting infrastructurefor that. It's not like people127501:20:54,750 --> 01:20:56,940are going to be download. Imean, yeah, if you get a hit,127601:20:57,330 --> 01:21:00,990and you got 10s of 1000s ofpeople downloading it, you got a127701:21:00,990 --> 01:21:04,500good problem, there's a qualityproblem and you know, ping me127801:21:04,500 --> 01:21:07,110will help you out. But youshould be able to put this127901:21:07,140 --> 01:21:11,610almost on your Umbral, you know,your your Dropbox, whatever. And128001:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,550we just need to experience andit should be it needs to be128101:21:14,550 --> 01:21:16,050called something else. I think128201:21:17,820 --> 01:21:22,740that I mean, yes, Steven B. Didyou see Steven B? Changed the128301:21:22,740 --> 01:21:27,000UI? Based on the stuff we weretalking about last week? In the128401:21:27,030 --> 01:21:29,970TV changed the medium tag itswitches? Yes. And yes, I128501:21:29,970 --> 01:21:32,880think that's what I'm saying.Like, is it sovereign? kickin128601:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,920ass man, it's kicking out is128701:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,950it? Well, yeah, you're I mean,we need a puck. We need a128801:21:37,950 --> 01:21:41,070podcast music app. Let mesomebody somebody needs to step128901:21:41,070 --> 01:21:42,330step up. Dennis. Just129001:21:42,330 --> 01:21:44,910simple. It's like instead ofpodcasts, it says artists and129101:21:44,910 --> 01:21:47,310then you got albums, and thenyou got whatever I mean, you'll129201:21:47,310 --> 01:21:48,090figure it out.129301:21:49,230 --> 01:21:50,910See devs dev harder. So many.129401:21:52,230 --> 01:21:58,050Dev better. Learn to dev, comeon. With this combo. It's hard129501:21:58,050 --> 01:22:01,230for me to follow. I'm sorry.Fall back. Yeah. So DC, we're129601:22:01,230 --> 01:22:06,000way off people. We've lost theplot now. We're just trying to129701:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,100create the future of media payno attention.129801:22:08,610 --> 01:22:11,190Yeah, the medium tag is whatwe're talking about the medium129901:22:11,190 --> 01:22:17,250tag, Bless you, bless you put inyour podcast feed what this130001:22:17,250 --> 01:22:23,010content is, it tells you like soyou can put in the medium. The130101:22:23,010 --> 01:22:28,020medium here is music. And thatmeans to the app, it signals to130201:22:28,020 --> 01:22:33,090the app that this is not apodcast. Like just a spoken word130301:22:33,090 --> 01:22:37,140podcast, this is music so youthis app, you should expect to130401:22:37,140 --> 01:22:39,810be getting music. And so thatmeans you would be able to130501:22:39,810 --> 01:22:46,830expect a ban you know the albumart liner notes, people that130601:22:46,890 --> 01:22:52,140person tags with with Band Aid,bandish names, like drummer and130701:22:52,140 --> 01:22:55,290guitarist and right right sothat that's that's the medium130801:22:55,290 --> 01:22:58,290test what we're talking about.And so once you have the medium130901:22:58,290 --> 01:23:02,970tag, you can make different appsthat target those only shows131001:23:02,970 --> 01:23:03,690with that media.131101:23:03,690 --> 01:23:06,570Where's that again in insovereign feeds where I can't131201:23:06,570 --> 01:23:08,310find it now. Where do you talk?131301:23:09,450 --> 01:23:12,180I never I don't use sovereignfeeds as your jam131401:23:17,190 --> 01:23:21,870I just got I just got a row ofducks law live ducks booths from131501:23:21,870 --> 01:23:28,260dreads, Dred Scott and actuallyhas duck emojis. Oh, nice. Let131601:23:28,260 --> 01:23:32,280me see. Does it show up in theto the booth spot catch it131701:23:33,510 --> 01:23:37,950and seen it come through yet?Oh, there it is.131801:23:37,980 --> 01:23:41,460Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you know myterminals and show the emojis?131901:23:41,460 --> 01:23:43,020You see the emojis? Yeah,132001:23:43,050 --> 01:23:45,390I'm using I'm using irsie132101:23:46,830 --> 01:23:51,450IRCC IRSs RSSI. Yeah, I'm usingthe same thing but I guess my132201:23:51,450 --> 01:23:53,100terminal isn't isn't grokking it132301:23:53,850 --> 01:23:58,020my terminals killer. Whatterminal using? Terminal.132401:23:59,730 --> 01:24:03,780Whatever, whatever it's called.Thanks,132501:24:03,780 --> 01:24:07,620pal. All right, terminal. Bash.And why don't we Why don't we132601:24:07,620 --> 01:24:09,990thank a few people Dave. Andthen we can just a few more132701:24:09,990 --> 01:24:12,570things we can talk about when itseems like we Yeah, seems like132801:24:12,570 --> 01:24:15,120since you saw I just run throughsome of these live boosts while132901:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,880you're getting your stufftogether. They're just so I can133001:24:17,880 --> 01:24:23,250read what was said in the lasthour. So we got tu tu tu tu tu133101:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,680from Dred Scott BUSA a row oflive ducks. 1000 SATs from C133201:24:28,680 --> 01:24:37,110dubs it's alive he says 2445from NV for N for v x. Get Lit133301:24:37,140 --> 01:24:41,730on a Friday Night Live pastapodcasting for the wind 830 for133401:24:41,730 --> 01:24:47,310SAS from cotton gin with a clownface and a global emoji 111 for133501:24:47,310 --> 01:24:50,160mere mortals testing the liveboosts again want to see my name133601:24:50,160 --> 01:24:56,040and the boost bot? You all seeit? Yep. 222 from C dubs with133701:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,200the running where he got a wholebunch of scissors and running133801:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,940emojis got it? Sure. A couplemore from see dubs there,133901:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,780including a 420 and other row oflive ducks from drifts Gribbs134001:25:06,780 --> 01:25:11,340Scott 10,000 from a Chris Youknow T shirts are great but134101:25:11,340 --> 01:25:13,950what's the amount of SATs oneneeds to boost to get a pair of134201:25:13,950 --> 01:25:18,660podcasting 2.0 branded scissorsto run around with no. I like134301:25:18,660 --> 01:25:24,060that this new premium we'll workon it. Sir Spencer the 10,033134401:25:24,060 --> 01:25:27,690some bounty from Casey Bitcoinblock party had a fantastic time134501:25:27,690 --> 01:25:30,780with Abel Kirby telling everyoneabout value for value streaming134601:25:30,780 --> 01:25:33,630and booster grams over theLightning Network also got to134701:25:33,630 --> 01:25:36,510have some great discussionsabout the new about music on the134801:25:36,510 --> 01:25:39,030D four v protocol excitingthings on the horizon. Well here134901:25:39,030 --> 01:25:44,730we are talking about it. Andanother 3000 tags from Chris You135001:25:44,730 --> 01:25:47,310know where's everybody? We'reall finding the boost bot to135101:25:47,310 --> 01:25:51,360follow a mastodon This isawesome. Chad F with 1000 SATs135201:25:51,360 --> 01:25:56,490with the boost. Kieran my firstlive boost 1111 miss the first135301:25:56,490 --> 01:25:58,740couple of minutes but I'm lovingthe late start. I'm going to be135401:25:58,740 --> 01:26:01,380egotistical and assume youdidn't you did it just for me.135501:26:01,590 --> 01:26:07,950Yes, we just start just for you.Yes in another 5000 from a Chris135601:26:07,950 --> 01:26:12,540You know who's excited about?The live show Mater's with live135701:26:12,540 --> 01:26:16,410is up with 1000 SATs 1776 TheFreedom Patriot boosts from135801:26:16,410 --> 01:26:21,090blueberry soundcheck false I seethis sweet sticky boost bought135901:26:21,090 --> 01:26:25,440action going down a Macedon forpodcasting 2.0 Hell yeah, boost.136001:26:26,700 --> 01:26:33,810We see also we have cotton ginhas been boosting a bunch hard136101:26:33,810 --> 01:26:38,160hat pre boost pre boost duringpre boost tree boosting. I think136201:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,040that yeah, that's it all theother stuff is you have on your136301:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,800list. So Wow. Thanks, everybody.Hey, wow. Thanks, everybody.136401:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,850It's cool. What's great about itis we're having fun, but you're136501:26:47,850 --> 01:26:51,180also helping fund the project.Thank you.136601:26:51,990 --> 01:26:54,900This is this is decentralizedSuper Chat.136701:26:55,470 --> 01:26:56,190It's amazing.136801:26:56,190 --> 01:26:57,840Can we cross that one off thelist? Yes,136901:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,740we can. Web three everybodylive, but don't tell anybody137001:27:02,190 --> 01:27:05,040when they won't believe you haveweb three is happening over137101:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,560there. Everybody's good.Everybody's getting a piece of137201:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,850the action web three. Mark andMarc Andreessen is about to pop137301:27:11,850 --> 01:27:12,810up and take credit for137401:27:14,910 --> 01:27:17,190Mark underscore Andreessen inthe chat room.137501:27:18,150 --> 01:27:20,730Yeah. P P mark, whatever hisname is.137601:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,770P mark. We this was this was athis was a137701:27:25,799 --> 01:27:27,689paper week. Oh, okay.137801:27:27,990 --> 01:27:30,960Yeah, you ready? Yeah. I'mready. Sit down.137901:27:31,170 --> 01:27:32,160I'm sitting down.138001:27:34,860 --> 01:27:36,990$1,000 from rss.com138101:27:37,320 --> 01:27:43,680Holy moly. big baller ballerboosts big bottom. Best Shot138201:27:43,680 --> 01:27:49,920call all 20 blades on him, Paul.Thank you. rss.com138301:27:50,220 --> 01:27:52,860Don't take your hand off theboost button. I mean, off the138401:27:52,860 --> 01:27:58,170road. Okay. Message from rss.comDave Adam, and all the other138501:27:58,170 --> 01:28:02,070contributors to podcasting 2.0project. Once again, we want to138601:28:02,070 --> 01:28:04,890thank you for all you do via theindex and the namespace. Keep up138701:28:04,890 --> 01:28:08,520the hard work your friends ofthe show. rss.com Alberta band138801:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,470and Company. Go podcasting.138901:28:10,500 --> 01:28:16,680Yo, thank you. Thank you somuch. Yeah, it's always the139001:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,130hosting guys who have kept usalive really, with the big139101:28:20,130 --> 01:28:23,400sustaining stuff yet tells yousomething.139201:28:24,270 --> 01:28:31,260The Alberto is he sent me anemail. I'll be coming back to139301:28:31,260 --> 01:28:33,180you pretty quick. I got I gotsome ideas on what you're139401:28:33,180 --> 01:28:37,890talking about. Yes, yeah.They've they've been helping.139501:28:38,310 --> 01:28:41,460Just keep us alive and goingfrom day one. Almost. I mean,139601:28:41,460 --> 01:28:45,270just so early on. Now. I reallyappreciate that, guys. Thank you139701:28:45,270 --> 01:28:50,340very much. And there's so manypeople. I mean, I don't think139801:28:50,340 --> 01:28:53,580people understand like, on thefinancial side of things,139901:28:53,850 --> 01:28:57,210especially early on, there's acouple of times where rss.com140001:28:57,210 --> 01:28:58,830came in at the right no140101:28:58,830 --> 01:29:01,740rarely right time. Yeah. Reallyneeded.140201:29:04,470 --> 01:29:08,880Always love you guys. Buzzsprout$500140301:29:09,809 --> 01:29:15,869Just hit him again. far as I'mconcerned, you have a 500 SATs.140401:29:15,869 --> 01:29:19,259You're a baller. We love it.Thank you. Yeah, beautiful.140501:29:19,589 --> 01:29:24,569Thank you Buzzsprout they theyhave supported us every month140601:29:24,569 --> 01:29:28,859now and it's awesome. And theyyou know but if you've been140701:29:28,859 --> 01:29:30,869listening to us cast whenthey're doing the I saw140801:29:30,870 --> 01:29:34,410a post that they were talkingabout stuff and there was no140901:29:34,410 --> 01:29:38,550time codes. I'm listening and Ihad to do I had to wash the dog.141001:29:39,870 --> 01:29:45,180Sorry, Kevin has given away setson on Twitter. Boost.141101:29:45,390 --> 01:29:48,270Nice. I love that is hilarious.141201:29:48,300 --> 01:29:55,050Cool. So we got a new Pay Paldonor this week. Uh huh.141301:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,750Fountain gave us $200 last yearand friends you Right. Thank141401:30:00,750 --> 01:30:04,080you. Yeah, yeah, I thanked him.And he said, he said it was long141501:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,030overdue, and he reallyappreciates everything that141601:30:06,030 --> 01:30:08,970we've done. We appreciate whatyou guys are doing. Yes. Thank141701:30:08,970 --> 01:30:12,780you Oscar. And I think Nick, isNick his buddy this working with141801:30:12,780 --> 01:30:12,870him?141901:30:12,900 --> 01:30:14,670I believe so. Yeah. I think it's142001:30:14,670 --> 01:30:21,690Nick. Thank you guys. Appreciateit. Oscar. Todd news. $50 Okay.142101:30:22,500 --> 01:30:23,730Thank you, James. Thank142201:30:23,730 --> 01:30:24,930you, James. Very much.142301:30:25,110 --> 01:30:29,850Yes. That I get you to, torewrite half of our privacy142401:30:29,850 --> 01:30:30,510policy in the142501:30:30,959 --> 01:30:34,739US Yes, this is exactly this isthe value for value system.142601:30:35,069 --> 01:30:38,189Yeah. It's not like you're notworking Dave Jones.142701:30:38,669 --> 01:30:41,939Well, that's how lawyers work.You know, you pay him and then142801:30:41,939 --> 01:30:46,889they have other people who areexactly Lauren balls and is142901:30:47,099 --> 01:30:51,329$25.20 their paper and he says,to answer the question, Why143001:30:51,329 --> 01:30:55,799$24.20 I think that's hisrecurring donation is to answer143101:30:55,799 --> 01:31:01,079the question why 2420 because2520 does not add up enjoy the143201:31:01,079 --> 01:31:06,749day all right about missing Idon't understand I don't143301:31:06,750 --> 01:31:11,400know I don't know there's a 420in there maybe. It may I guess143401:31:11,400 --> 01:31:12,660that's where my brain goes.143501:31:13,980 --> 01:31:15,450Thank you for this money. Yeah,I143601:31:15,450 --> 01:31:17,970still don't understand whichOkay, keep it coming. Keep143701:31:17,970 --> 01:31:19,560explaining it. Yes.143801:31:19,590 --> 01:31:26,490Try many times in differentways. $17.91 from Michael Newman143901:31:27,270 --> 01:31:32,310our buddy the manager of theteam's repo. Oh yes right yep.144001:31:32,820 --> 01:31:35,430all around good guy says hittingthe easy button this month144101:31:35,430 --> 01:31:39,840because my outbound liquidity isshot Who here's a here's a Bill144201:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,130of Rights ratified in 1791 stackof Fiat fun coupons in place144301:31:44,130 --> 01:31:46,680with my monthly SATs. This ship144401:31:49,110 --> 01:31:52,110will spend it as quickly as wecan before devalues before our144501:31:52,110 --> 01:31:54,360very eyes. Hey, did theinflation numbers come out144601:31:54,360 --> 01:31:54,720today?144701:31:55,890 --> 01:31:59,190Do I hope so. I hope you knowwhat it'll probably say is like,144801:31:59,670 --> 01:32:02,700oh, it's like 7% that's allmeantime in the real world is144901:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,020like 40% Yeah, right.145001:32:05,130 --> 01:32:06,360I bought a month145101:32:06,690 --> 01:32:12,510battery for mum. My wife's cartoday. car battery. Uh huh. Same145201:32:12,510 --> 01:32:16,440battery about three years ago.Three years ago, this battery145301:32:16,440 --> 01:32:22,410cost $165 today $220.145401:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,400Brother I'm telling you wefilled up our propane tank.145501:32:27,960 --> 01:32:35,160Before we didn't go on vacation.It was 270 a gallon now 320145601:32:37,290 --> 01:32:41,850And this is not this is not 8%inflation this is way more Yes145701:32:41,850 --> 01:32:44,550way. Well, there's differencebetween headline inflation,145801:32:44,970 --> 01:32:48,480which is your food and gas whichis your headlines. And then core145901:32:48,480 --> 01:32:51,720inflation which is everythingelse so stop complaining. Joe146001:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,950Biden's doing a great job. Trustyour central bankers they're146101:32:55,950 --> 01:32:56,430great.146201:32:56,969 --> 01:32:57,749It's the Putin price146301:32:57,990 --> 01:33:02,190it's a Putin price hike. Howinsulting are these people like146401:33:03,030 --> 01:33:08,580Adam see heart no relation toAdam see curry sent us $10 No no146501:33:08,820 --> 01:33:10,080could not find it all right.Thank you.146601:33:10,110 --> 01:33:10,830Thank you very much.146701:33:12,030 --> 01:33:13,830That's Mr. Paper I146801:33:13,830 --> 01:33:18,210will take it Fiat fun coupons inthe in actually Ilan coin we146901:33:18,210 --> 01:33:18,600love it147001:33:23,010 --> 01:33:24,900inbox okay but147101:33:26,220 --> 01:33:30,300oh hold on Well, let's do thisproperly because I'm still I'm147201:33:30,300 --> 01:33:37,170still obsessed with this boostjingle I can't help myself. I147301:33:37,170 --> 01:33:37,620love it.147401:33:38,730 --> 01:33:41,100Ice Cube I want to put in brandnew car battery with a big147501:33:41,100 --> 01:33:47,400sticker was faced 2500 says fromSir Shona, the Allegheny Valley147601:33:47,430 --> 01:33:50,400AK Sean McCune, he says gocrypto casting147701:33:52,530 --> 01:33:53,700okay trying to get my goat147801:33:54,150 --> 01:33:58,650se lewd and gave us a 1611 SASand he says I just want to give147901:33:58,650 --> 01:34:02,670you a pronunciation guide on thename. It's the word lewd with a148001:34:02,670 --> 01:34:06,600C sound right before but meshtogether sound like it's a sound148101:34:06,600 --> 01:34:12,210like a foreigner pronouncing thename, Claude. Haha, clue. Clue.148201:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,130Okay, I see also a reason thereason for the 1611 SAS is148301:34:17,130 --> 01:34:19,890because that's the year the KingJames Bible was authorized go148401:34:19,890 --> 01:34:28,170podcasting go boost. Thank youclay Thank you. clewd blueberry,148501:34:28,260 --> 01:34:31,830or we'd like to call him boostBurris and a boob donation. 8008148601:34:31,830 --> 01:34:35,430sets through fountain he saysshout out to servo and the148701:34:35,430 --> 01:34:38,850amazing work he does. Gal thebot that hangs out in the green148801:34:38,850 --> 01:34:43,230room on zero node. Hashtag greenroom will do all sorts of148901:34:43,230 --> 01:34:46,650amazing things if you ask.She'll even read boosts out. But149001:34:46,650 --> 01:34:50,850most importantly, she can now doCeltic Tarot spreads for you,149101:34:50,850 --> 01:34:53,550which is some of the coolestshit I've ever seen.149201:34:53,580 --> 01:34:58,170Okay, I don't understand any ofthat, but it's fantastic. So do149301:34:58,170 --> 01:35:01,770I have to hit the hashtag Heygirl What do I do? I want to149401:35:01,770 --> 01:35:02,850activate the shit.149501:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,200Hashtag green room in his CelticTarot spreads.149601:35:07,230 --> 01:35:08,220So what do you do?149701:35:08,940 --> 01:35:09,960I don't know. Well,149801:35:09,990 --> 01:35:10,800do you know help?149901:35:12,750 --> 01:35:13,920I don't know show reboost150001:35:13,950 --> 01:35:18,720Oh, you got to join hashtaggreen room on second let me try150101:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,260that joy that gets get youterrorists bread green room150201:35:22,260 --> 01:35:24,720okay, I'm in there now what do Ido?150301:35:26,460 --> 01:35:28,980Exclamation point draw spaceCeltic150401:35:29,670 --> 01:35:38,370draw Celtic? Yeah. See she's, ohdid it sent me back an image.150501:35:39,990 --> 01:35:40,350It's150601:35:42,570 --> 01:35:43,380like an image of150701:35:43,500 --> 01:35:48,090Taroko sent me a link link to animage. Don't click on his virus.150801:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,300Oh no Oh, oh, he's gonna send meback a whole bunch of tarot150901:35:51,300 --> 01:35:55,500cards. Okay. All right, nice,but how does that bring money151001:35:55,500 --> 01:36:00,840into our node? Okay, all right,um, back to the 2.0 chat room.151101:36:00,840 --> 01:36:01,470Okay, sorry,151201:36:01,500 --> 01:36:05,940Rebecca and Jen. 5000 SATs. Ooh,she says welcome back. Thank151301:36:05,940 --> 01:36:08,100you. She's talking about maybehere maybe?151401:36:09,060 --> 01:36:09,540Yeah.151501:36:11,910 --> 01:36:17,5509813 37 leet sets and he says Igrew up watching anime with151601:36:17,550 --> 01:36:20,580subtitles so it just feelscomfortable to have on but not151701:36:20,580 --> 01:36:28,770all the time. Will take comicstrip blogger delimiter No, no,151801:36:28,770 --> 01:36:30,390no, no, that's that. They gotta151901:36:30,450 --> 01:36:32,820know he sent this he sent thislate today.152001:36:33,660 --> 01:36:37,110Okay, I've got him out of orderso I'm outside. Yeah,152101:36:37,710 --> 01:36:42,780it's just like to understand whycomics or Blogger is obsessed152201:36:43,260 --> 01:36:47,160with booster grabbing makingsure that he knows that we've152301:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,680boosted gramming That that wehave to confirm that the booster152401:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,270gram is received152501:36:52,139 --> 01:36:56,099your as your you just said thewords I'd like to know what152601:36:56,099 --> 01:36:58,799comic strip bloggers obsessedwith fill in the blank. Big152701:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,770mistake. Yes. Big mistake shouldnot have asked that.152801:37:02,910 --> 01:37:07,110CASP eland 3690 sets thefountain A says I stopped the152901:37:07,110 --> 01:37:11,52033x X donations no more Abortmission donations. I go for the153001:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,4803690 or the 963 Tesla numberdonation level thanks for the153101:37:15,480 --> 01:37:15,870show.153201:37:15,930 --> 01:37:19,740Don't post yes nice thank youcash Oh153301:37:19,740 --> 01:37:23,580Karen from the mere mortalspodcast he's in the chat room153401:37:23,580 --> 01:37:28,080right now he's sit at row ducks2222 Yo thought brand and he153501:37:28,080 --> 01:37:35,940says just listen to your chat onwhat Bitcoin did Adam really153601:37:35,940 --> 01:37:39,210great explanation of podcasting2.0 and V for V Thank you and153701:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,960your enthusiasm is infectious.And it's going to be awesome to153801:37:42,960 --> 01:37:47,250see Bitcoin 2.0 and V for V allgrow together. Don't tire153901:37:47,250 --> 01:37:50,460yourself out Dave. We can stilltake along without the Potts age154001:37:50,460 --> 01:37:52,920for a while. Glad your sonlearned his lesson. My dad154101:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,490always said that Motorbikes arecoffins on wheels. Yeah. Yes.154201:37:56,820 --> 01:38:02,850What Bitcoin did, that's PeterMcCormick, Peter McCormick. I154301:38:02,850 --> 01:38:06,660did that interview when he wasin Austin and had Airbnb and it154401:38:06,660 --> 01:38:10,470was really early in the morning.But I appreciate Peter so much154501:38:10,470 --> 01:38:14,220because we disagree on a lot ofthings philosophically154601:38:14,220 --> 01:38:20,250politically. But we wish He'ssuch a nice cordial man. And he154701:38:20,250 --> 01:38:23,100will let you speak and you knowhe can deal say I don't agree154801:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,400with that. But it doesn't make abig deal isn't argumentative154901:38:27,180 --> 01:38:30,390just really leave someone intheir own value I think is how155001:38:30,390 --> 01:38:35,370the Dutch say it and and soappreciated. And yes, I got a155101:38:35,370 --> 01:38:40,710lot of of most of the recentpodcast interviews I've done is155201:38:40,710 --> 01:38:44,910really, it got a lot of peopletalking about 2.0 and stuff.155301:38:45,629 --> 01:38:49,409The thing I remember and I'venever met him talk to him or155401:38:49,409 --> 01:38:52,499anything but the only thing Iremember about Peter McCormick155501:38:52,499 --> 01:38:58,169is when the whole El SalvadorBitcoin right under thing155601:38:58,169 --> 01:38:58,649happened.155701:38:59,610 --> 01:39:02,040Like he's down went down there,right? Yeah, he went down. Uh155801:39:02,040 --> 01:39:02,610huh.155901:39:02,970 --> 01:39:08,220And met with boo Kaylee. Andhe's here in like, a t shirt and156001:39:08,220 --> 01:39:11,970some shorts. Yeah. Shaken booKelly, the president of the156101:39:11,970 --> 01:39:14,550country's hand. Yes, buddy. Oh,Twitter's like could you don't156201:39:14,580 --> 01:39:15,480like like156301:39:15,480 --> 01:39:20,280put on some pants or something?Gotta appreciate it, man.156401:39:20,760 --> 01:39:21,300Bitcoin.156501:39:22,230 --> 01:39:26,970Let Andy Lehmann from Limacreations a 1776 a little156601:39:26,970 --> 01:39:31,020liberty SATs Matic and he says alawful but awful hilarious.156701:39:31,170 --> 01:39:33,900All right. Yep, that was ourtitle.156801:39:35,670 --> 01:39:40,050Mary Oscar, also known as Oscarmarry 50,000 SATs through156901:39:40,050 --> 01:39:42,750fountain and he says boostingfor David grant hopefully a157001:39:42,750 --> 01:39:48,420smooth recovery will thank you.Boost he sends a Pay Pal157101:39:48,420 --> 01:39:49,530handsome SATs in this Yeah,157201:39:49,530 --> 01:39:50,730we exotic control.157301:39:51,120 --> 01:39:55,830He's a upstanding fellow. Karenfrom mere mortals back again. He157401:39:55,830 --> 01:39:58,230gave us another row of ducks.And he says I've been thinking157501:39:58,230 --> 01:40:01,170about two things lately. Andunintended consequences and157601:40:01,170 --> 01:40:05,280realize desires that are thatare only what you wanted in your157701:40:05,280 --> 01:40:11,100head and not in reality. This isdeep stuff here. Hagar, if157801:40:11,190 --> 01:40:12,990Carmen's eaten the shroomsagain.157901:40:17,910 --> 01:40:22,410I don't know what gal the greenroom but is handling handing out158001:40:22,410 --> 01:40:26,490but it's good. Good for you.Yeah. I wonder if the people who158101:40:26,490 --> 01:40:30,030write these demanding podcastingshould articles have really158201:40:30,030 --> 01:40:33,660thought it through. If Valeriesponsored her favorite app to158301:40:33,660 --> 01:40:36,870implement these recommendations,she would probably hate the app158401:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,140in the app itself would become aworst product. Maybe a case158501:40:40,140 --> 01:40:47,460study before wholesale changesto an industry. Yes, good. Roi,158601:40:47,850 --> 01:40:52,740slash on sale. 54,321 stats54321.158701:40:54,390 --> 01:40:59,310Roi. Thank you, Ronnie.158801:40:59,430 --> 01:41:01,830He says, Hey, Dave, wishing yourson a speedy recovery. Well,158901:41:01,830 --> 01:41:02,610thank you, Roy.159001:41:03,480 --> 01:41:07,320I'm gonna catch up with Roy.next couple of days. I should159101:41:07,320 --> 01:41:12,930give Roy Roy is what I loveabout Roy. He's always we have159201:41:12,930 --> 01:41:15,780signal chats. And I'm sure youhave the same show. Everyone has159301:41:15,780 --> 01:41:20,490the same with Roy. He's alwaysthe guy who will send a hand159401:41:20,490 --> 01:41:26,340clap of a praying hands emojiand hearts. Here. He's big on159501:41:26,340 --> 01:41:29,400sending hearts and I reallyappreciate that. Not many men159601:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,310will do that. You know, not manymen will do that. And I really159701:41:32,310 --> 01:41:33,450liked that, that he does that.159801:41:33,870 --> 01:41:36,420It's changed me I started doingI know.159901:41:36,480 --> 01:41:40,320I know. It's funny you say that.I'm like, I love this. The other160001:41:40,410 --> 01:41:45,030okay, I'm in New York. I'm inI'm like, there's a lot of160101:41:45,030 --> 01:41:47,460activity. I'm going tobookstores, my daughter and you160201:41:47,460 --> 01:41:50,340know, this is a bookstore wherethey forced us to wear a mask.160301:41:50,790 --> 01:41:52,950And I was I was a littleirritated and I'm just trying to160401:41:52,950 --> 01:41:57,660figure out I'm texting withTina, I'm texting with a couple160501:41:57,660 --> 01:42:01,620other people. I'm texting withDave for some stuff. And and so160601:42:01,620 --> 01:42:05,370I tell Tina, it's like I loveyou. And then Dave is like, I160701:42:05,370 --> 01:42:09,840love you too. posted the wrongchat.160801:42:12,900 --> 01:42:16,080My day. My ROI mode.160901:42:16,380 --> 01:42:19,890Exactly like oh, okay, I loveyou too. It's all good.161001:42:20,190 --> 01:42:27,540Very bag, baby. Yeah. Sir Doug4400. Sets, says message is just161101:42:27,570 --> 01:42:31,380a value for value. Thank you.Thank you, Sir Don Kim. Oh, Chad161201:42:31,380 --> 01:42:36,750Farah. Yep. Love Chad 30 333sets. And he says I really liked161301:42:36,750 --> 01:42:39,960these two plus hour episodes ofa two hour episode last week.161401:42:39,960 --> 01:42:40,140Yeah,161501:42:40,140 --> 01:42:46,500we did. What was a warm? Post?We do. Long. One on 143. Now161601:42:47,070 --> 01:42:52,830Oh, geez. Comic Strip blogger.Let's see. Oh, this is from two161701:42:52,830 --> 01:42:56,160diff. That's from last the lastweek. Okay, I'm gonna combine161801:42:56,160 --> 01:43:03,120these. All right. Martin for potfriend. I miss you Martin. 7654.161901:43:03,510 --> 01:43:07,350Sets. He says how much pod tothe podcast are cast if a162001:43:07,350 --> 01:43:08,670podcaster could cast pod162101:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,070kill me. Danish. Yeah, typical.162201:43:14,670 --> 01:43:19,710Oh, Macintosh. 1000 sets throughfountain he says. Thanks for the162301:43:19,710 --> 01:43:22,440kind words last week Dave? I'mjust trying to do my part to162401:43:22,440 --> 01:43:25,230help out the message last weekwas completely messed up by162501:43:25,230 --> 01:43:28,860Apple. Apple iPhone autocorrectwas something along the lines of162601:43:28,860 --> 01:43:31,980Note to self aid to top offwallet. That's why I could only162701:43:31,980 --> 01:43:34,710send 50 SATs. It was my last 50says in the wall. Oh162801:43:34,710 --> 01:43:35,280no.162901:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,280You two are awesome. And havebeen my number one podcast163001:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,380listen since episode one. Oh,that's very,163101:43:40,380 --> 01:43:41,250very cool. Thank you.163201:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,530Thank you, Macintosh appreciateand fill your wallet back.163301:43:48,360 --> 01:43:49,200Tap that up.163401:43:49,530 --> 01:43:54,780Yeah. Chip 98 gave us 1337 saysand he says plus one for making163501:43:54,780 --> 01:43:56,160it easier for musicians.163601:43:57,030 --> 01:44:00,270Yeah, this is gonna be an influxman. The musicians are163701:44:00,299 --> 01:44:03,719primed. And sovereign feeds iswhere it's going to begin I163801:44:03,719 --> 01:44:04,949think. Oh, yeah.163901:44:04,980 --> 01:44:07,380Oh, yeah. That's the sovereignfeeds is driving it. You bet.164001:44:08,850 --> 01:44:13,830Okay, so chemistry blogger. Herewe go. delimiter Howdy, David.164101:44:13,830 --> 01:44:17,430Adam. See, here's your polishpal, the CSP hobby cartoon164201:44:17,430 --> 01:44:21,510doodler, and I'm trying new appfountain for iPhone. So164301:44:21,780 --> 01:44:24,360artificial intelligence is oneof the top three most impactful164401:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,330technologies invented bymankind. And you are warmly164501:44:27,330 --> 01:44:31,110welcome to listen to our podcastabout AI called AI duck cooking.164601:44:31,620 --> 01:44:36,090Read by Gregory William ForsytheForeman from Kent. Just typing164701:44:36,090 --> 01:44:40,920your web browser any podcastapp, quote, AI dot cooking164801:44:41,010 --> 01:44:42,240unquote. Yeah.164901:44:42,900 --> 01:44:45,930All right. Well, I've decidedthat we needed a jingle for165001:44:45,960 --> 01:44:53,160comics or Blogger think that wasappropriate for him now.165101:44:53,610 --> 01:44:59,100That's very final. That's veryfinal sending is like, monthlies165201:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,080through Pay Pal we get JamesSullivan $10 Jones last Buck $5165301:45:04,440 --> 01:45:09,150Christopher Raymer $10 SeanMcCune $20 Jordan van Dunnville165401:45:09,180 --> 01:45:17,790$10.02 coats $6.66 the donationof evil. dribs Scott $15. Good165501:45:17,790 --> 01:45:23,130old Drib Michael Kimmerer $5.33Thank you, Michael. Lesley165601:45:23,130 --> 01:45:29,760Martin $2 Jeff Miller $20 AaronRenaud $5 and Pedro gone calvess165701:45:30,000 --> 01:45:30,720$5.165801:45:31,020 --> 01:45:35,100Thank you all so much forsupporting the project and a165901:45:35,100 --> 01:45:39,450special shout out to Dred Scottwho always updates us when he's166001:45:39,480 --> 01:45:44,640he does so many chapter chapteror so much chapter work for so166101:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,880many different podcasts. Thenhe'll always update us like,166201:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,660Hey, man, like my kids puking.I'm puking on my kid. And my166301:45:51,660 --> 01:45:55,440wife's puking on both of us. Itmay be delayed a little bit166401:45:55,440 --> 01:45:59,250like, Oh, it's okay. It's okay.Well, we'll work it out. But166501:45:59,250 --> 01:46:03,720also, especially with with thebooster grams, you know, it's166601:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,320going all the way down line.Everybody gets their share. We166701:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,130have all the splits put in andit's so you're really helping166801:46:11,130 --> 01:46:13,350the whole system including wetalked about sovereign themes.166901:46:13,350 --> 01:46:15,720You're helping sovereign feasts,I'm a curio Kassar, we're167001:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,180actually helping carry Kassar ifyou're listening in Fountain167101:46:18,180 --> 01:46:20,580you're helping you're helpingeverybody with your booster167201:46:20,580 --> 01:46:25,200grams That was always the visionand that's working and really167301:46:25,200 --> 01:46:30,120appreciate that hard hat sent toanother row of ducks as did end167401:46:30,120 --> 01:46:35,250for VX with a he said quote bigheads keep people engaged in167501:46:35,250 --> 01:46:39,330quote Adam curry podcasting topoint out some more ducks from167601:46:39,330 --> 01:46:43,080Carolyn we got boost burry withpodcast with scissors boost me167701:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,400bitch. Alright, so thank you allso much for that. Also for our167801:46:47,430 --> 01:46:52,020Fiat fun coupon donations go topodcast index.org That's where167901:46:52,020 --> 01:46:54,840you can see at the bottom adonate button for PayPal.168001:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,440There's also you can send us ifyou want to send us Bitcoin on168101:46:58,440 --> 01:47:01,470chain. But of course I'd likeyou to get a podcast app from168201:47:01,470 --> 01:47:04,620new podcast apps.com Fill upyour wallet and get cranking and168301:47:04,620 --> 01:47:07,560boosting and not just us boosteverything boosts lots of shows.168401:47:08,640 --> 01:47:14,100Your your boost uses yourdinner. Boosts Your dinner. Yes.168501:47:14,460 --> 01:47:16,950Because one thing's for surewe're not getting any part of168601:47:16,950 --> 01:47:19,710that Spotify open source fundmoney.168701:47:21,060 --> 01:47:23,940Oh yeah, I love Spotify fun.What168801:47:23,940 --> 01:47:26,580a douche bags.168901:47:26,940 --> 01:47:29,520Remember the last one? Of courseyou don't169001:47:29,610 --> 01:47:33,270know Dad's curriculum coveredthat quite well. Now. These guys169101:47:33,270 --> 01:47:36,990are so full of shit. All ofthem, all of them. Trust me,169201:47:36,990 --> 01:47:41,700it's all going away. You'll see.Netflix can't even keep their169301:47:41,700 --> 01:47:45,150red. They're their members. Thisis all falling apart in front of169401:47:45,150 --> 01:47:46,110our very eyes.169501:47:46,590 --> 01:47:51,120The next the Netflix thing isjust sad. I mean that that's169601:47:51,210 --> 01:47:56,160they have nothing to eat. Youhave. But who was it that got169701:47:56,160 --> 01:48:02,550bought by discovery? CNN. Okay,see? Let's see. And then and169801:48:02,550 --> 01:48:05,940then you got what an HBO part ofthat deal to did that come out169901:48:05,940 --> 01:48:07,200of AT and T and170001:48:07,350 --> 01:48:11,160HBO was Warner. So yeah, that'sa part of Yeah. And then170101:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,880you had somebody bought MGM?170201:48:15,599 --> 01:48:19,739Oh, that was a while back. Thatwas Amazon Amazon, right Amazon170301:48:19,739 --> 01:48:19,949bought170401:48:20,580 --> 01:48:24,720in the deal just closed. You'vegot all these companies that are170501:48:24,720 --> 01:48:29,820consolidating their, their,their catalogs and controlling170601:48:29,820 --> 01:48:32,490these, they're going to end upwith a few companies controlling170701:48:32,490 --> 01:48:36,660these huge catalogs of priorfilms and stuff. And then you're170801:48:36,660 --> 01:48:38,910gonna have Netflix over therewith nothing.170901:48:39,059 --> 01:48:42,749Well, most are going to havenothing. It's, it's it's going171001:48:42,749 --> 01:48:45,959to be it's going to it's notgoing to end well. But also what171101:48:45,959 --> 01:48:50,609do you really have? What do youreally have and again, these171201:48:50,609 --> 01:48:53,249companies are not really thrownoff profit. I mean, Amazon is171301:48:53,249 --> 01:48:58,019short for their Amazon Studios aloss leader for them. HBO is the171401:48:58,019 --> 01:49:01,229only one really doing it rightin my opinion. And I think I171501:49:01,229 --> 01:49:03,479think they've been longtimeYeah, they've been doing a long171601:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,209time that they're making money,everyone else is not making171701:49:06,209 --> 01:49:06,569money.171801:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,300I think the time is coming to anend where you're going to be171901:49:12,300 --> 01:49:15,090able to in this is where itrelates to podcasting in my172001:49:15,090 --> 01:49:17,850mind, I think the time has cometo an end where you're going to172101:49:17,850 --> 01:49:22,830have like these podcasters thatwhere you have a have a good set172201:49:22,830 --> 01:49:26,670of IP and you just roll it overthere to Netflix or Amazon and172301:49:26,670 --> 01:49:30,000turn it into like a like a videobook film property. Yeah,172401:49:30,030 --> 01:49:32,340because I don't think the moneyis going to be there to do that172501:49:32,340 --> 01:49:32,940stuff.172601:49:33,030 --> 01:49:35,700I mean, I was listening to podland and I didn't hear172701:49:35,700 --> 01:49:39,540everything but I heard yeahwonder he is doing shows with172801:49:39,540 --> 01:49:42,180the production budget of$100,000172901:49:42,660 --> 01:49:45,540You kidding me? That doesn't govery far.173001:49:45,630 --> 01:49:48,570You know, it's like no, this isnot going to last this is not173101:49:48,570 --> 01:49:49,260gonna last173201:49:49,469 --> 01:49:51,569and then you have the union'strying to take a piece of the173301:49:51,780 --> 01:49:56,640Oh, the union everyone'sunionizing. Yeah it's it's I173401:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,370just feel bad because phonywould you know, it's like, oh,173501:49:59,370 --> 01:50:01,560we're all like We're doingproductions and we're getting173601:50:01,560 --> 01:50:08,550great distribution. No, you'renot. It's a, it's a mirage. The173701:50:08,550 --> 01:50:12,960Rogen and a couple of these bigdeals this mirage. That's not173801:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,450That's not where it's not whereit's going to wind up, the173901:50:15,450 --> 01:50:18,030budgets are going to stop,they're going to clamp down,174001:50:18,240 --> 01:50:22,380because the money is just notthere. I'm just going to keep174101:50:22,380 --> 01:50:28,740saying it. But show me theprofit. And now you know, cheap174201:50:28,740 --> 01:50:31,950money is over use of you getmoney for free, borrow it for174301:50:31,950 --> 01:50:35,010free. If you're a corporationthat debts now it's costing174401:50:35,010 --> 01:50:37,830actual, you know, as interestrates go up, it's costing money174501:50:37,830 --> 01:50:41,220again. Oh, okay. Well, maybe wedon't spend so much. Thank you.174601:50:44,910 --> 01:50:49,230Thank you, I think we gotenough. To wrap it up. Yeah, the174701:50:49,230 --> 01:50:52,530only thing I wanted to mentionis Umbral has something kind of174801:50:52,530 --> 01:50:57,390interesting, which is the Agoraproject, which is an app when174901:50:57,390 --> 01:51:02,310you install it, you can you canspecify a directory and you can175001:51:02,310 --> 01:51:07,260put files in there. And peoplehave to pay to download the file175101:51:07,260 --> 01:51:11,220or you can also have a, like afree test, and then you can get175201:51:11,220 --> 01:51:14,700an invoice later. It's kind ofinteresting. It's not quite what175301:51:14,700 --> 01:51:18,570we need, but it's just, Ithought was kind of fun. You175401:51:18,570 --> 01:51:20,760know, Hey, you want this file?You can download it if you pay175501:51:20,760 --> 01:51:21,810me 500 SATs175601:51:22,260 --> 01:51:24,510was Zelicah LSAT thing, or175701:51:26,100 --> 01:51:30,780I'm not quite sure how it works.But it works. It does work. does175801:51:30,780 --> 01:51:31,170work?175901:51:31,620 --> 01:51:34,890I've got I've got a couple ofideas on what I'm going to be176001:51:34,890 --> 01:51:39,000kind of working on this week.And one of them I definitely176101:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,360want to discuss next week. Butit's a big topics, I think, I176201:51:42,360 --> 01:51:43,620think are too long for me176301:51:43,620 --> 01:51:47,010want to just tease it so we canpeople can start getting mad176401:51:47,010 --> 01:51:47,430about it.176501:51:49,500 --> 01:51:57,180Yeah. Yes, that sounds like afantastic. Opening the API. We176601:51:57,180 --> 01:52:01,980talked about this once before.So this is we talked about this176701:52:01,980 --> 01:52:06,360probably over a year ago. Is dowe open the API to where it176801:52:06,360 --> 01:52:10,860doesn't need authentication?Authentication keys? Yes. And,176901:52:11,340 --> 01:52:19,050and part of that would becreating also a version two of177001:52:19,050 --> 01:52:23,910the API that has this fullyrestful. So what we have now is177101:52:23,910 --> 01:52:27,570not really a RESTful API. It's,it's sort of the Hi, Mina like177201:52:27,570 --> 01:52:27,750this.177301:52:27,750 --> 01:52:33,780So Do do you typically like painin your life? Is this why you177401:52:33,780 --> 01:52:37,440figured this would be a goodproject to embark on to open the177501:52:37,440 --> 01:52:40,650API and aversion to and restful?177601:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,090Yes, sounds really easy.177701:52:42,510 --> 01:52:47,610Yeah. Let me give that up foryou, baby. David. Oh, wow. Okay,177801:52:47,610 --> 01:52:49,530that is a big one. Well, that'swhy I177901:52:49,530 --> 01:52:51,660want to talk about I want totalk about don't talk about if178001:52:51,660 --> 01:52:57,930we want to do it. Everything inI kind of think we should but I178101:52:57,930 --> 01:53:02,730want to talk it out. Let's talkabout let's talk let's talk but178201:53:02,730 --> 01:53:03,840before we do that, yeah.178301:53:04,830 --> 01:53:08,640Yeah, good idea. Oh, man. Thisis this has been a very178401:53:08,640 --> 01:53:13,860successful a boost. sesh boost.A lot of booster grams. Come178501:53:13,860 --> 01:53:14,190okay, I178601:53:14,190 --> 01:53:15,000said, Dev.178701:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,180Dev, you can have a dev stash.That's even funnier. Guys, they178801:53:21,180 --> 01:53:24,660just have a dev stash. It's likea hackathon. Only cooler.178901:53:25,260 --> 01:53:28,500A hack. Everything's cooler thana hackathon. Oh, my179001:53:28,500 --> 01:53:33,540brother. I know. We're bothtired. But we've covered a lot179101:53:33,540 --> 01:53:34,140of ground.179201:53:34,980 --> 01:53:37,830Well, the this shows get theshows getting more interesting179301:53:37,830 --> 01:53:39,480when we're tired because theymake less sense.179401:53:39,509 --> 01:53:42,509Yeah. Do we have some guestscoming in the next few weeks? I179501:53:42,509 --> 01:53:44,549think it's time to bring in somepeople again, don't you think?179601:53:44,699 --> 01:53:47,579By the way, I saw you like, Oh,Dan J. Lewis, we need to have179701:53:47,579 --> 01:53:50,009you on again. Well, you know,that means he's going to be179801:53:50,039 --> 01:53:53,669emailing me every week. Thisweek. Can I be on the show?179901:53:57,810 --> 01:54:03,630Yeah, we're gonna we need to getlike three days for for people180001:54:03,630 --> 01:54:06,420to have on the show in the nextnext couple of months. Good.180101:54:06,450 --> 01:54:09,540Good, good, good. Yeah, I've gotI'm starting to line them up now180201:54:09,570 --> 01:54:14,430started today. But I want itheld off because I didn't know180301:54:14,430 --> 01:54:17,160what was happening with grantingeverything right. But, but now180401:54:17,160 --> 01:54:22,110that that's pretty much yes. Ithink we can bring some people180501:54:22,110 --> 01:54:24,420back in and not have a risk ofhaving to cancel the last180601:54:24,420 --> 01:54:24,690second.180701:54:25,019 --> 01:54:28,169Well, it's I'm glad everything'swell with Grant. I'm glad to180801:54:28,169 --> 01:54:32,399have you past the hump in, inthe big financial world. And,180901:54:32,819 --> 01:54:35,819and back on the stick man. And Imean, I'm in it myself, you181001:54:35,819 --> 01:54:40,199know, kick my daughter out onMonday and I'm full time as she181101:54:40,199 --> 01:54:42,809is she's still there. Yeah,she's staying here until Monday181201:54:42,839 --> 01:54:44,999till Monday. Yeah, but she'sgreat. She cooks she does all181301:54:44,999 --> 01:54:45,929kinds of cool stuff.181401:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,730Then I can have you all tomyself, baby.181501:54:47,759 --> 01:54:52,199Yes, yes. Yes, yes. All right.You can have me every single181601:54:52,199 --> 01:54:57,119Friday, David Jones. Have agreat weekend. We'll see you181701:54:57,119 --> 01:54:57,989next week everybody.181801:55:13,769 --> 01:55:18,329You have been listening topodcasting 2.0 to visit podcast181901:55:18,329 --> 01:55:20,879index.org For more information