Episode 76: Pining for PodPing

100:00:00,510 --> 00:00:06,540podcasting 2.0 for March 4 2020,to Episode 76 pining for pod pig200:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,220and a whole lot more of course,if only we could be live. I'd300:00:14,220 --> 00:00:16,770love to do it live. Helloeverybody welcome to the400:00:16,770 --> 00:00:19,290official board meeting forpodcasting. 2.0 everything500:00:19,290 --> 00:00:23,730happening if podcasting does.orgwith a namespace and of course600:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,910all the brilliance that flowsthrough podcasts index dot700:00:26,910 --> 00:00:29,700social. I'm Adam curry here inthe heart of the Texas Hill800:00:29,700 --> 00:00:32,430Country and in Alabama. Myconfidants and podcasting900:00:32,430 --> 00:00:35,520debutante my friend on the otherend, please say hello to Mr.1000:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,080Dave Jones.1100:00:37,980 --> 00:00:42,180What up world traveler podcastare everywhere guy?1200:00:42,600 --> 00:00:48,240Yeah. Hey, I'm everywhere. Yeah,dude, I went. I went up to1300:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,640Beck's place. Glenn Beck'sstudio complex in Irving near1400:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,300Dallas.1500:00:54,719 --> 00:00:59,399Yeah, I know nothing about thisbecause I by by law, by fiat, I1600:00:59,399 --> 00:01:04,229can not allowed to listen to anyother Adam curry property until1700:01:04,229 --> 00:01:08,249after this show. Yes. Do not allI got was it all I know was a1800:01:08,249 --> 00:01:13,139text from you saying? I'm I'm inDallas. Yeah. Circling back. And1900:01:13,139 --> 00:01:15,119I was like, okay, all right.I'll wait. I'll wait. I want to2000:01:15,119 --> 00:01:16,049hear about it when you get back.2100:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,350Dude, that's, that's what I wasreally? Well, first of all, I2200:01:19,350 --> 00:01:22,230stayed with my buddy Vic. So itwas a lot of fun, because he's2300:01:22,230 --> 00:01:24,360one of my friends from Jersey,you know, we known each other2400:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,680for over 30 years. And so Istayed at his house and, and he2500:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,780went with me, but this Can't hehas this like this complex. Have2600:01:33,780 --> 00:01:37,650you ever been to Burbank, like,you know, studios? You know?2700:01:38,610 --> 00:01:42,150You've been to UniversalStudios. Yeah. Okay. So those2800:01:42,150 --> 00:01:47,370really, really tall buildings.He has to have those concrete.2900:01:47,610 --> 00:01:51,000And yes, good grief is right.And they're filled with studios.3000:01:51,600 --> 00:01:57,630All kinds of, I mean, just whatreally impressive stuff. You3100:01:57,630 --> 00:02:03,330know, memorabilia movie, thingslike large displays of things.3200:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,840And it's just wall to walltechnology, huge studios,3300:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,560multiple sets. It's like whatthe hell, and I really didn't do3400:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,710my homework on him. But theblaze, you know, they got close3500:02:13,710 --> 00:02:16,770to a million subscribers andpaying subscribers like 1003600:02:16,770 --> 00:02:20,400bucks a year. Ooh, let thatsettle in for a sec. Yeah.3700:02:22,050 --> 00:02:24,510100 you can do you can build alot of studio space with $1003800:02:24,510 --> 00:02:24,750million.3900:02:25,290 --> 00:02:28,530Well, and he has a similar hereuse a similar building next4000:02:28,530 --> 00:02:31,890door, which is I think the taxstrategy where he has a museum.4100:02:33,180 --> 00:02:35,580And this is him to himself.Yeah. Well, it's4200:02:35,580 --> 00:02:38,730not really open to the publicyet, but it's all you know, long4300:02:38,730 --> 00:02:42,570rows of tables anddocumentation. He has smart kids4400:02:42,570 --> 00:02:45,570running around who knoweverything who are curating and4500:02:45,570 --> 00:02:49,380documenting. It's like, well,here's a Christopher Reeve4600:02:49,380 --> 00:02:53,160Superman suit. Here's a C threeP Oh, that's here's the original4700:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,660R two d two. Oh, and over here,grab a hold of this. Yeah, this4800:02:57,660 --> 00:03:00,360the handle to Abraham Lincoln'sdoor, his front door, so give4900:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,170that a good rub. And now here'sthe Mary Todd Lincoln's dress5000:03:04,170 --> 00:03:07,380that she wore when she buried aboy here's the Old Testament in5100:03:07,380 --> 00:03:10,440the original box it just oh,here's we think is the first5200:03:10,470 --> 00:03:13,050electric chair here is anoriginal Franz Gillick5300:03:13,050 --> 00:03:16,080guillotine. Here's Roosevelt'soriginal wheelchair.5400:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,670I say the original Old Testamentin a bomb. Yeah, yes.5500:03:21,330 --> 00:03:28,680I know. In the original box in awooden box in the original box.5600:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,440I know. It's huge volumes. Let'sdo an unboxing of that shit5700:03:34,440 --> 00:03:40,500right now. That's cool. reallypersonable guy. He's my age, you5800:03:40,500 --> 00:03:44,730know. And we had a really niceconversation hour and a half.5900:03:45,660 --> 00:03:48,660Which of course was now heinvited me because, you know,6000:03:48,660 --> 00:03:54,090my, my talking about ESGenvironmental, social governance6100:03:54,090 --> 00:03:57,930and how that relates to thebanking system. And I had kind6200:03:57,930 --> 00:04:01,140of I have a wrap now on that,you know, I got a thing that's6300:04:01,140 --> 00:04:03,480kind of down only up to just alittle bit. He wrote this book,6400:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,390The Great reset, where heexplains these things as well.6500:04:06,630 --> 00:04:09,240And that's the one thing Ialways liked about Beck is when6600:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,390he was on Fox, that's the lasttime I really watched him. You6700:04:12,390 --> 00:04:14,820know, he's Blackboard and he'dshow you how everything was6800:04:14,820 --> 00:04:17,700connected. It always ended withGeorge Soros somehow, you know,6900:04:18,030 --> 00:04:22,620always. So it was it was nice.Yeah.7000:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,260I haven't heard Glenn. I haven'theard of Glenn Beck show since7100:04:25,260 --> 00:04:28,110he was on like, I don't know. Ishe still even on top radio?7200:04:28,140 --> 00:04:28,710Yeah,7300:04:28,709 --> 00:04:31,439he still does a three hour show.Yeah, the show is you know, it's7400:04:31,439 --> 00:04:33,809like talk radio. You can'tlisten to too many ads.7500:04:34,199 --> 00:04:36,419This is probably like, I mean, Ihaven't listened to him and7600:04:36,419 --> 00:04:39,329probably oh gosh, is probablyclose to 20 years. It's been a7700:04:39,329 --> 00:04:39,569long7800:04:39,779 --> 00:04:43,919time. Yeah, well, this thisparticular episode drops on7900:04:43,919 --> 00:04:44,549Saturday.8000:04:45,840 --> 00:04:49,530No, is this No Is it are you onthe blaze thing or is this just8100:04:49,530 --> 00:04:50,190a podcast? They8200:04:50,190 --> 00:04:55,920put it on on Blaze TV yesterday.So that's exclusive for members8300:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,040and then they put it out as Ipresume a video on YouTube8400:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,000that's on YouTube and And thenpodcast on Saturday. Yeah,8500:05:03,510 --> 00:05:06,900so it's video here on video yes.Yes not your favorite8600:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,410not my favorite but nice thatyou know this the dark room was8700:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,010to hang in microphones that hehas to white microphones maybe8800:05:14,010 --> 00:05:17,190you've seen it anyway Now wetalked about podcasting 2.0 Yeah8900:05:17,190 --> 00:05:21,060of course did you oh yeah no, noI plugged everything I plugged9000:05:21,060 --> 00:05:24,480mo facts I plugged no agendaplugged the vortex specifically9100:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,580because you know, it gets allbent out of shape if I don't9200:05:26,580 --> 00:05:27,090mention him9300:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,150an index card or something likein your pocket where you're9400:05:30,150 --> 00:05:32,970like, like crossing them off orput a check mark, you gotta get9500:05:32,970 --> 00:05:33,390this this9600:05:33,420 --> 00:05:37,980dude, I have it in my head and Iplugged food intelligence. You9700:05:37,980 --> 00:05:40,980know, Texas Slim's beefinitiative. Oh, yeah, no, I plug9800:05:40,980 --> 00:05:44,670all my boys. Yeah, of course. Ofcourse. That's that's what I do.9900:05:44,700 --> 00:05:45,750This is why I'm here.10000:05:46,140 --> 00:05:49,590Yeah, that's blogger blogger forher. Yeah,10100:05:49,590 --> 00:05:53,760I'm I'm a bit of a plugger soyeah, it was it was quite10200:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,280enjoyable. I'm sure I'll beinvited back on for something10300:05:56,280 --> 00:06:00,420else or whatever. We'll see.Quite the operation up there. I10400:06:00,420 --> 00:06:02,250don't think people realize justhow big10500:06:02,250 --> 00:06:06,540that museum about though I don'tunderstand why there's like, it10600:06:06,540 --> 00:06:08,490just seems like a generalmuseum. I would have figured you10700:06:08,490 --> 00:06:11,670said Museum. I'm thinking okay.Museum to himself, you know, or10800:06:11,670 --> 00:06:13,230something like that. Like rightnow. It's10900:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,030it's he calls it a museum. It'sit's not a museum yet. It's11000:06:18,090 --> 00:06:20,610they're starting to lay it allout and stuff. And I'm not quite11100:06:20,610 --> 00:06:24,030sure what I'm pretty sure ofit's a tax strategy.11200:06:27,210 --> 00:06:28,200tax strategy.11300:06:28,230 --> 00:06:30,510Yeah. If you look, if you have$100 million dollars, non11400:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,010profit, okay, whatever. Howeverit works, and it's fun. Yeah,11500:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,370this is like people with lots ofmoney do like collect cars.11600:06:38,460 --> 00:06:40,770There's all in you put that in amuseum. There's all kinds of11700:06:40,770 --> 00:06:43,860reasons to do this. Gotcha. Itdoesn't matter, but I'm sure11800:06:43,860 --> 00:06:46,620he'll open some of that up tothe public at some point. It's a11900:06:46,620 --> 00:06:49,500hobby lobby guy with the Museumof the Bible or whatever.12000:06:49,679 --> 00:06:56,039But imagine, imagine a Costco.Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's, that's12100:06:56,039 --> 00:06:57,569the size of the building. Mmhmm.12200:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,490It's a Costco that sells. Thissells, Mary Todd Lincoln.12300:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,560cufflinks.12400:07:04,830 --> 00:07:10,140It's like, get a compass. Youknow, like a like the two pointy12500:07:10,140 --> 00:07:12,300things compass. Not adirectional compass.12600:07:12,390 --> 00:07:15,720Yeah, like a draw like scribe.Yeah, right. Exactly. And12700:07:15,750 --> 00:07:18,900he's telling the story about,you know, how he, he had it in12800:07:18,900 --> 00:07:21,450his pocket one day, and he wasjust kind of rubbing it. And12900:07:22,380 --> 00:07:27,390when he was a little nervousabout something, and and, and13000:07:27,390 --> 00:07:30,660you tell him the story says thiswas George Washington's compass.13100:07:31,260 --> 00:07:33,960And he hands it to me snap, takethat in your hand here. Now rub13200:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,810over that spot. He said, youfeel that so he has like it's13300:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,260worn down? He says, Yeah, I havea feeling that George Washington13400:07:40,260 --> 00:07:44,700was rubbing that very spot. Thatwas kind of cool. And then I13500:07:44,700 --> 00:07:46,920said, Can I sit in the electricchair? He says, no, no, you13600:07:46,920 --> 00:07:55,050can't do that. Damn. That wouldhave been cool. Yeah, so we'll13700:07:55,050 --> 00:07:58,830see. We'll see. I have no ideathe reach of next programming. I13800:07:58,830 --> 00:08:01,200don't know if we'll get peopleshowing up. I hope so.13900:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,090That's, that's kind of aninteresting idea that you don't14000:08:06,090 --> 00:08:10,770know the reach. I was listeningto listening to buzz Castile on14100:08:10,830 --> 00:08:14,310the way home from lunch. Andthey were talking about tick14200:08:14,310 --> 00:08:17,850tock in house some of theirvideos again, you know, 100014300:08:17,850 --> 00:08:21,090views other ones again, 50,000views. And I was just thinking14400:08:21,090 --> 00:08:25,380the whole time. How do you everknow that? That's real? Oh, you14500:08:25,380 --> 00:08:28,860don't? Of course not. You haveno idea. It could be completely14600:08:28,860 --> 00:08:31,890bogus. Like yeah, it'scompletely fake and made up14700:08:31,890 --> 00:08:35,910numbers. Yeah. Yeah, that's justa sad thought.14800:08:37,020 --> 00:08:38,370Of course not. You have no idea.14900:08:38,490 --> 00:08:41,220That's a huge revelation of justcome to this social media15000:08:41,250 --> 00:08:43,110viewers. Numbers are fake.15100:08:44,220 --> 00:08:46,590Yeah, well, what's interestingis when it comes when I when it15200:08:46,590 --> 00:08:49,410comes to reach like you onRogan, a lot of people show up15300:08:49,410 --> 00:08:52,470from Rogan and a lot of peoplehave heard about me through my15400:08:52,470 --> 00:08:56,040Rogan appearances. Megyn Kelly,zero Nothing, not a single15500:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,100thing. And a lot of people watchit. I know a lot of a lot of15600:08:59,100 --> 00:09:03,840people watch that and listen toher. Um, Tom woods, lots of15700:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,870people show up lots ofpodcasting. 2.0 Hey, what is15800:09:06,870 --> 00:09:09,000this? What are you guys doing?You know, he's kind of the15900:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,260libertarian guy.16000:09:11,220 --> 00:09:15,990So there's an audience qualitygets reflected with the kid with16100:09:15,990 --> 00:09:17,280like the crossover.16200:09:18,540 --> 00:09:20,610Would you say that? Just saythat again.16300:09:20,910 --> 00:09:23,910So there's like, there's this,there's the actual you can just16400:09:23,910 --> 00:09:26,610measure roll number say, Okay,well, if you imagine this world16500:09:26,610 --> 00:09:30,270where you can measure everysingle person that that had this16600:09:30,270 --> 00:09:33,660all it is, okay, well, there'sthis. There's really truly this16700:09:33,660 --> 00:09:36,420many people, but then there'sthere's the SEC, that doesn't16800:09:36,420 --> 00:09:40,920necessarily translate intoactual like, doesn't mean that16900:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,380they're really interested infollowing through. Oh, no,17000:09:43,469 --> 00:09:46,109no, that's totally dependentupon the audience. What what17100:09:46,109 --> 00:09:49,199type of audience and I can I canunderstand where Megyn Kelly17200:09:49,199 --> 00:09:50,729audience may not be thatinterested.17300:09:51,780 --> 00:09:54,780Yeah, no, I mean, if they're, ifthey're more interested, they17400:09:54,780 --> 00:09:57,930probably might be moreinterested in Sharon Osborne17500:09:57,930 --> 00:09:59,490than than you. Yes. That's17600:09:59,490 --> 00:10:02,190why I got by Thanks for Thanksfor rubbing up my face.17700:10:02,340 --> 00:10:05,700That's not a, that's not a knockon you, that's I got bumped for17800:10:05,700 --> 00:10:09,090it. That was my firstappearance. But I'm just doing17900:10:09,090 --> 00:10:11,850this a lot. There's a lot ofincoming requests, I'm trying to18000:10:11,850 --> 00:10:15,570pick and choose as much, youknow, smartly as possible. I18100:10:15,570 --> 00:10:19,620love doing the Bitcoin podcastsbecause, you know, they already18200:10:19,620 --> 00:10:20,310kind of get it.18300:10:21,660 --> 00:10:28,350You know, you can, so should wesave up? Like have a long term18400:10:28,350 --> 00:10:34,350goal to save up? Three bitcoinsso that we can become Venezuela18500:10:34,350 --> 00:10:34,860citizen?18600:10:35,100 --> 00:10:39,180Oh, yes, of course. We're gonnago buddy. Yeah, podcast. Yeah.18700:10:39,420 --> 00:10:42,570moved the whole LLC. Yeah, sure.No, I'm all in but you know, we18800:10:42,570 --> 00:10:44,130have to have six if we're bothmoving.18900:10:44,610 --> 00:10:46,590Yeah, cuz come well, companiesare people too. I'm just19000:10:46,590 --> 00:10:47,310thinking we make they19100:10:47,340 --> 00:10:51,030made the company person makepersonnel Salvadorian. Okay, I'm19200:10:51,030 --> 00:10:51,570all for that.19300:10:52,140 --> 00:10:54,180Yeah. And then we'll just have,you know, what, have housing19400:10:54,180 --> 00:10:55,080down there that we visit.19500:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,700And the way to help us reachthis lofty goal is by getting a19600:10:59,700 --> 00:11:06,960new podcast app, but new podcastapps.com. Boost us we need to19700:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,570boost boost us to El Salvador19800:11:09,870 --> 00:11:14,160in some time around when we'reat or you know, in our late 80s19900:11:14,790 --> 00:11:15,420We'll be able to make20000:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,570you know, I was looking as a youknow, the first thing I look at20100:11:18,570 --> 00:11:21,720in the morning is podcasts indexdot social. In fact, that's, you20200:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,110know, how your browserprioritizes what you look at me,20300:11:25,110 --> 00:11:29,640I It's always number one. You'dsee what's going on. Interesting20400:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,570stuff happening. You seem to bedoing a lot of shoring up of20500:11:33,570 --> 00:11:34,080stuff.20600:11:35,250 --> 00:11:39,570Yeah, it's I'm in cleanup mode,sort of. I'm trying I'm testing20700:11:39,570 --> 00:11:42,750out and it's not so far this hasbeen a complete is not working.20800:11:43,740 --> 00:11:47,190What's not working? No cleanupyour cleanup? Project?20900:11:47,430 --> 00:11:50,010No, this this, this, this thingI'm about to tell you is not21000:11:50,010 --> 00:11:54,120worked out. Okay. What I've beentrying to say I've gotten21100:11:54,120 --> 00:12:02,010multiple priorities. So I've gotthe namespace. The index is what21200:12:02,010 --> 00:12:06,240you might call ancillarysoftware, like, like hello pad.21300:12:07,170 --> 00:12:13,830And then you and then the justthe podcast. So I'm trying to21400:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,220figure in well, I just reallyprobably one more is. So social21500:12:20,610 --> 00:12:24,540contract. What I'm trying to dois separate and have like one21600:12:24,540 --> 00:12:29,550week dedicated to namespace Thisis per month. Like because tasks21700:12:29,550 --> 00:12:33,870witching just sucks me dry.Right? If I have to do like five21800:12:33,870 --> 00:12:37,080different things in one day thatare in different spheres,21900:12:37,110 --> 00:12:40,560spheres of, you know, you need22000:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,080unity. You need headspace forit. Like if you're doing22100:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,420lightning shit, you're indifferent headspace. Yeah, yeah,22200:12:45,420 --> 00:12:48,150no, I totally get that. I havethat problem, too. With all the22300:12:48,150 --> 00:12:49,890codes. I love the coding. I do.22400:12:49,950 --> 00:12:52,920It's really annoying. I knowthat about you? Yes. Especially22500:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,070between languages. Yeah. Oh, mygoodness, the switches so hard.22600:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,420And so trying to figure out if Ican do okay, dedicate a week22700:13:00,420 --> 00:13:06,300each month to namespace anotherthe next week to API the next22800:13:06,300 --> 00:13:11,220week to index in the next weekto you know, something like22900:13:11,220 --> 00:13:12,480other software under23000:13:12,990 --> 00:13:14,460Raja. How's that working out foryou?23100:13:14,490 --> 00:13:17,460Yeah, it's a disaster. It'scomplete disaster.23200:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,680I'm sorry to hear that. Thing islike, I knew that was the answer23300:13:22,680 --> 00:13:23,250somehow.23400:13:23,370 --> 00:13:25,950Yeah, I started the week like,Okay, this is namespace week.23500:13:26,010 --> 00:13:28,740And I haven't looked at thenamespace in two days now. So23600:13:29,100 --> 00:13:33,510this is what I have with to dolists. Whenever a to do list is23700:13:33,510 --> 00:13:39,000definitely the place where tasksgo to die. You know, and yeah,23800:13:39,060 --> 00:13:42,120and just and they just hangthere, and they sit there and23900:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,400then what you do, like, I'llstart a new to do list,24000:13:44,940 --> 00:13:47,160because once you put it on theto do list, you feel like you've24100:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,030accomplished accomplished24200:13:48,030 --> 00:13:52,230something. Yes, exactly. This isexactly the problem. Right.24300:13:52,230 --> 00:13:55,290Okay. Well, how can I how can Imake that easier for you, Dave?24400:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,680I know it's nothing. I don'tthink it's anything you can do.24500:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,070I just have to actually followthrough on my plans.24600:14:02,100 --> 00:14:09,090Well, I mean, you you you haveread The Seven Habits of Highly24700:14:09,090 --> 00:14:09,930Effective People.24800:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,220No, hell no, I've24900:14:11,220 --> 00:14:13,470not read that. You've neverlooked at GTD25000:14:14,700 --> 00:14:18,240cheat? Get things done. Yeah.No, because get25100:14:18,390 --> 00:14:22,770thing get things done. I do Ifollow the get things done25200:14:22,770 --> 00:14:27,630method with the freedomcontroller without lines.25300:14:28,020 --> 00:14:30,180So what is it? What is it'sjust,25400:14:30,630 --> 00:14:34,950it's just a method of havingthree basic buckets of things25500:14:34,950 --> 00:14:39,030you're going to prioritize andagain, some very simple rules.25600:14:39,270 --> 00:14:42,150And then you know, with the ifyou if you combine that kind of25700:14:42,150 --> 00:14:47,430with the seven habits of highlyeffective people you get, so25800:14:47,430 --> 00:14:50,400it's kind of a toolkit of a workmethodology. You can take little25900:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,360bits and pieces of it butpersonally, getting things done26000:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,300and you can get, I mean, there'sall kinds of outliner based26100:14:57,630 --> 00:15:00,210things that will do it but thefreedom controllers perfect For26200:15:00,210 --> 00:15:00,600that,26300:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,650this is the thing. Well, thething that I'm most need to get26400:15:05,220 --> 00:15:08,610in most, that's a dangerouswork. Yeah, the thing that is26500:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,060annoying me the most right nowis is the aggro is the26600:15:12,060 --> 00:15:14,520aggregator. So the aggregatorsplit into two parts, you got a26700:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,740polar and a parser. And they runpair, they run parallel. And26800:15:19,740 --> 00:15:23,880there's there's eight of themcurrently, they they are all26900:15:23,880 --> 00:15:31,470pulling feeds and parsing themin parallel, right? The the, the27000:15:31,590 --> 00:15:35,370polar part of that is calledaggravate in it as a node. js27100:15:35,370 --> 00:15:40,920script. Yeah. And it's a bigmess. It was written back at the27200:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,350time of node 12. And I've beencarrying it forward, we're now27300:15:46,350 --> 00:15:51,030on like Node 17. Or send us likefive versions back. Yeah. And27400:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,650the since then, the main libraryrequest library, HTTP Polar27500:15:55,650 --> 00:15:59,370Library that it uses is justcalled request, that's been that27600:15:59,370 --> 00:16:02,220has been deprecated. It's nolonger even in active27700:16:02,220 --> 00:16:07,020development. Yeah, the bug fixesdon't get get done. It's slowly27800:16:07,020 --> 00:16:11,640breaking over time, it is slowlygetting more and more unable to27900:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,960handle modern quirks withinprotocol. It's got crud.28000:16:16,710 --> 00:16:17,310Yeah. And28100:16:17,310 --> 00:16:21,750so that, like it doesn't, I'vebeen noticing more and more TLS28200:16:21,750 --> 00:16:25,2901.3 issues where it just killyou28300:16:25,290 --> 00:16:28,080had one the other day, where didyou someone's couldn't28400:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,430authenticate with there was notit, I saw something come into28500:16:32,430 --> 00:16:35,730the email, application issues,28600:16:36,270 --> 00:16:39,690we there was something with,well, and I still haven't28700:16:39,690 --> 00:16:42,570figured this out, it's somethingburied deep in this library,28800:16:42,810 --> 00:16:48,000where there's one seed outthere, that that just won't, it28900:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,590doesn't seem to SSL handshakecorrectly. And I can't, I can't29000:16:52,620 --> 00:16:56,040figure it out. And I've beensort of battling this for a few29100:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,840days and stuff, I've, um, I'vestarted laying out a new29200:17:01,140 --> 00:17:05,280aggregate a new puller. And soI've got it framed like29300:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,490wireframe, and it's a rust appand that kind of thing. So I29400:17:08,490 --> 00:17:14,220feel like that's the direction Iwant to go. And it's working29500:17:14,220 --> 00:17:18,990well so far. But now what I needto do is figure out a way, the29600:17:18,990 --> 00:17:22,740conceptual work for this isgoing to be to make it not touch29700:17:22,740 --> 00:17:27,600the database. If, like, ever, ifall possible, what I really29800:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,350wanted to do is just pull thelist of feeds from the database29900:17:31,380 --> 00:17:36,000in my database initially, andthen never touch it again. And30000:17:36,060 --> 00:17:41,250and then let the parsertakeover, parse out everything30100:17:41,310 --> 00:17:44,670and let it update the database.Because currently, what's30200:17:44,670 --> 00:17:47,310happening is the puller and theparser are both touching the30300:17:47,310 --> 00:17:50,880database a bunch. So if there'sa, if you're, if it goes out30400:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,060there to pull a feed, and itends up with a 301, redirect,30500:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,250then it then it stops, updatesthe database to show that it's a30600:17:59,250 --> 00:18:06,000301, then tries to follow theredirect, and then comes back.30700:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,050And if that if that worked, thenit updates the database with30800:18:10,260 --> 00:18:12,840with a success, time code andall this kind of stuff. There's30900:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,650all this stuff in order to keepif if last modified since header31000:18:16,650 --> 00:18:19,680headers and all this kind ofstuff in shape. So what I really31100:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,870want this new version to do isessentially pull the feed or31200:18:24,870 --> 00:18:30,600attempt to describe all thethings that happened in that31300:18:30,810 --> 00:18:35,250attempt into the feed file thathas the content31400:18:35,699 --> 00:18:39,299and the logic, the logic is inthere, even right now if the31500:18:39,299 --> 00:18:40,739parser has to get anything,31600:18:41,130 --> 00:18:44,610right and then the parser canpick it up and either parse it31700:18:44,610 --> 00:18:47,700or not, and update the databaseaccordingly with what it found31800:18:47,790 --> 00:18:48,060in the31900:18:48,060 --> 00:18:55,350file. You know, you need. Youneed an intern. And you do you32000:18:55,350 --> 00:18:58,260need an intern? You do need anintern to help you with your32100:18:58,260 --> 00:19:01,290busy schedule. I can I find anintern for you.32200:19:01,949 --> 00:19:05,969Sure. Yeah, absolutely. As Kimcannot pay them nothing and32300:19:06,059 --> 00:19:07,679awesome around and they can feellike crap.32400:19:07,860 --> 00:19:11,100As I said an intern this isexactly this is college credit32500:19:11,100 --> 00:19:13,830kid. What's your problem? Thisis this is experience. This is32600:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,450in fact, in fact, you should bepaying us32700:19:15,780 --> 00:19:17,670exposure, this exposure.32800:19:19,650 --> 00:19:24,390Exposure, it's good for yourexposure. Mm hmm. Okay, that's32900:19:24,390 --> 00:19:29,670what I'm right now pod ping iskind of outside of this, but the33000:19:29,670 --> 00:19:33,240more pod ping the less. We needto rely on this type of system.33100:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,780Correct.33200:19:34,950 --> 00:19:38,700Okay, yeah. If I could talk, ifI could tell this guy I know Dan33300:19:38,700 --> 00:19:41,520Benjamin into supporting podthing, then my life would be33400:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,190even easier. hours a week. Let'sgo33500:19:44,190 --> 00:19:47,910find this guy. I saw him show upin a press release today. Or33600:19:47,910 --> 00:19:53,220yesterday, I think Yeah. And I'mlike, What is he doing? And why33700:19:53,220 --> 00:19:55,920hasn't he requested ourpermission to go and do this33800:19:55,920 --> 00:20:01,410before he went off. Fincher,welcome to the board. Meeting a33900:20:01,470 --> 00:20:04,080board member we've had herebefore. We always appreciate him34000:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,260coming by fellow Texan. Ladiesand gentlemen, say hello to Mr.34100:20:07,260 --> 00:20:08,100Dan Benjamin.34200:20:08,670 --> 00:20:11,820Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks. Youknow, it's always honored to be34300:20:11,820 --> 00:20:12,660here. I appreciate it.34400:20:12,690 --> 00:20:15,540That's right. Hi guys. LikeLike, smash that like button34500:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,040subscribe. There you go.34600:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,080You're the Joan Rivers,podcasting. 2.0034700:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,440I am wonderful. I'll take it. Ithink I can go with that.34800:20:25,500 --> 00:20:29,100Dan, man, Dan, Dan the man so itwas just coincidental that we34900:20:29,100 --> 00:20:32,040had just scheduled for today ordid we pick you up for the most35000:20:32,040 --> 00:20:32,940recent announcement?35100:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,450I mean, I think both I thinkthere's a little element of both35200:20:36,450 --> 00:20:39,720in life there everything is amystery. So but I'm you know,35300:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,730I'm glad to be here. Wedefinitely have some cool stuff35400:20:41,730 --> 00:20:44,970to talk about. And um, it wasjust perfect timing. I think you35500:20:44,970 --> 00:20:48,930guys had the the opening and,and Dave hit me up and he's35600:20:48,930 --> 00:20:51,390like, You gotta come on. I'mlike these course I'll be on35700:20:51,540 --> 00:20:52,560course I'll be on so.35800:20:52,650 --> 00:20:58,110So Dan, is the founder and CEOof fireside.fm. And Mark Cuban35900:20:58,110 --> 00:21:02,790works for him. Whatever happenedto that Cubans thing, and no one36000:21:02,790 --> 00:21:05,190gave a shit about that Dude,that was just just went away.36100:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280No, it didn't go away. It seesthey're still using it. They're36200:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,060still out there doing stuff withit raising raising big money36300:21:12,060 --> 00:21:17,130signing up. Really NFL? Yes,it's not. It's not. It's not36400:21:17,130 --> 00:21:17,550great. No.36500:21:17,550 --> 00:21:21,510Is it close is a closed system.I mean, are these NFL podcasts?36600:21:21,540 --> 00:21:23,640I have no idea. I don't knowwhat they're doing over what36700:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,520happened to the name dispute.How did that get settled? Still?36800:21:26,550 --> 00:21:32,310It's not settled. Oh, man. It'sstill happening. It's you know,36900:21:32,310 --> 00:21:35,940I don't know. I don't know aboutyou. But like, the prospect of37000:21:36,240 --> 00:21:41,460going after a, like a multibillionaire. You know, isn't37100:21:41,670 --> 00:21:42,360thrilling?37200:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,030Well, I did it. I did. Icountersued MTV over mtv.com.37300:21:48,030 --> 00:21:52,710And it wasn't, it was veryscary. Yeah, the legal fees were37400:21:52,710 --> 00:21:59,220insane. Yes, I'm talking. I'mtalking $200,000. Sure. And that37500:21:59,220 --> 00:22:06,120was 1992. Yes, it's now that'scrazy. Yeah. How's how's the37600:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,030real fight? How's the ogfireside.fm? Doing?37700:22:09,270 --> 00:22:12,600It's going really well, youknow, there. There's, there's37800:22:12,630 --> 00:22:15,990features in the works. And it'sjust it's slow. Because, you37900:22:15,990 --> 00:22:18,720know, I'm doing I'm doing otherthings as we're going to talk38000:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,660about and so it you know, I haveI have people helping me. And38100:22:21,660 --> 00:22:22,020that's,38200:22:22,620 --> 00:22:25,230do you have internal interns?38300:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,970Don't have interns that I canboss around? And what was meant?38400:22:30,270 --> 00:22:33,000Nothing? Yeah, pay? No, no, Ipay I pay a lot.38500:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,180So where are you on? I'm justgonna drill you until we get to38600:22:36,180 --> 00:22:38,610the meat and potatoes here.Where are you on namespace38700:22:38,610 --> 00:22:40,890integration? What are you doingon that?38800:22:41,820 --> 00:22:44,700I really good. I'm behind alittle bit. Now. I was in the38900:22:44,700 --> 00:22:50,490lead for a while adopt anytime,Dave would date or a dream of a39000:22:50,490 --> 00:22:53,430feature? And I would have itimplemented before he could?39100:22:53,730 --> 00:22:57,450Yes. But good old days beforeyou found venture capital.39200:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,590Yeah, and I'm not in that quiteof a fast Mo. But working on it.39300:23:01,590 --> 00:23:04,740I want to be 100% compliant tothe namespace. And that's the39400:23:04,740 --> 00:23:08,400goal. And I'm committing to thatguys publicly committing to it.39500:23:08,430 --> 00:23:09,870Oh,39600:23:09,870 --> 00:23:15,780okay. So carefully what more Ican do for you. Time code.39700:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,560Now you you've been a great agreat supporter, Dan, really39800:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,340appreciate I know39900:23:20,639 --> 00:23:23,009what you're doing. And we'refreeing it, we're freeing it40000:23:23,009 --> 00:23:26,549from our corporate overlordsover at Apple podcasts and40100:23:26,549 --> 00:23:29,669Spotify, who I like both ofthose companies for different40200:23:29,669 --> 00:23:31,889reasons. And I have problemsabout those companies for40300:23:31,889 --> 00:23:34,919different reasons. But I thinkthat I think that overall,40400:23:35,549 --> 00:23:40,169having something like this is,this is exactly why I made40500:23:40,169 --> 00:23:43,229fireside in the first placebecause supporting independent40600:23:43,229 --> 00:23:47,189podcasters supporting peoplethat are out there, just just40700:23:47,249 --> 00:23:49,649trying to have fun with this inthis space and trying to do40800:23:49,649 --> 00:23:53,279something that it's importantand meaningful. And not, you40900:23:53,279 --> 00:23:56,129know, having a standard outthere having an index out there41000:23:56,339 --> 00:24:00,629is so nice. It's so so, so cool.And you guys have built the41100:24:00,629 --> 00:24:06,059right kind of API, and it's it'sself aware. It's a living thing.41200:24:06,329 --> 00:24:09,239And I love that about it. Soyeah, I'm all behind.41300:24:09,270 --> 00:24:14,250Thank you. And what I realizemyself a day or two ago is, you41400:24:14,250 --> 00:24:19,290know, just looking at how wellyou can do with with booster41500:24:19,290 --> 00:24:23,760grams, but also really theindependence and the reliability41600:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,960of podcasts and 2.0. That, youknow, as an industry, we kind of41700:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,720think of things like, well, youknow, you're not as big as41800:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,880Apple, you're not as big asSpotify, you know, you don't41900:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,690register. But that's not reallythe point. The point is, we have42000:24:36,690 --> 00:24:41,040an uninterrupted flow. We havefeatures that people want, it42100:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,520could take five more yearsbefore, you know, these apps42200:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,580really and this type of functioncould take 10 years I don't know42300:24:47,580 --> 00:24:51,150before the functionality isgenerally accepted and expected.42400:24:51,420 --> 00:24:54,450But we'll get there that itdoesn't have to be like this.42500:24:54,690 --> 00:24:57,060Oh, well. You know, we'll neverbe bigger than Apple who gives a42600:24:57,060 --> 00:25:00,690shit, right? Anybody who wantsto feature anybody podcasts who42700:25:00,690 --> 00:25:04,320tells their audience, Hey, youwant to support me this way? Or42800:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,650do you want to see chapters thisway, their audience will42900:25:07,710 --> 00:25:11,970eventually go get an app. Theywill. That's just how it works.43000:25:11,970 --> 00:25:14,850That's how it's always worked. Imean, the person the first,43100:25:15,180 --> 00:25:18,540arguably the first app was anAppleScript gear, download this43200:25:18,540 --> 00:25:19,410figured out.43300:25:20,580 --> 00:25:23,850Here's the thing I've beenthinking about. And I think I43400:25:23,850 --> 00:25:28,410read and this was the week ofto, like, the two stupidest43500:25:28,410 --> 00:25:32,940articles I've read in likeyears. What one was this? This43600:25:32,940 --> 00:25:36,090article about? The wholeinternet's gonna become a43700:25:36,090 --> 00:25:36,870podcast,43800:25:37,890 --> 00:25:39,090wrote this, I need to43900:25:39,900 --> 00:25:43,740I don't even know somebody inForbes. It was so stupid. And44000:25:43,740 --> 00:25:47,340then but the other one was, thisother article said, the guy's44100:25:47,340 --> 00:25:51,090basic premise was the applepodcast app sucks, but I'm but44200:25:51,090 --> 00:25:55,350I'm never gonna stop using it.Oh, what was that about? It was44300:25:55,380 --> 00:26:00,090essentially like this weirddiatribe about how it's hard to44400:26:00,090 --> 00:26:03,390stop using something once youhave some inertia. And even44500:26:03,390 --> 00:26:05,760though it's it's this horriblething that makes my life44600:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,030miserable. I'm just never gonnastop using Oh, did44700:26:09,030 --> 00:26:10,470James Kirtland write this?44800:26:10,710 --> 00:26:16,500No, no, no. This was somebodyfrom? I can't I can't even44900:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,480remember. I don't even remember.I've got it. Actually, you know45000:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,420what I've ever printed out. Ishouldn't have to remember45100:26:21,420 --> 00:26:26,160things. I printed them. Yes. Andit's from Fast Company. That's45200:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,480where it's wrong. Okay. Soanyway, the so here's, here's45300:26:30,480 --> 00:26:36,780what I was thinking. The problemhere with a lot of things,45400:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,470there's there's always thischicken and egg problem of new45500:26:40,470 --> 00:26:45,870features. And he has some, heknows some apps that wait for45600:26:45,870 --> 00:26:48,870the for the hosts, and then somehosts that wait for the apps and45700:26:48,870 --> 00:26:57,750his chicken and egg. What Whycan't we start a industry why a45800:26:57,750 --> 00:27:03,630campaign that's that's the wordI'm looking for a PR campaign of45900:27:04,170 --> 00:27:06,390get a decent podcast app.46000:27:07,980 --> 00:27:12,030A modern I prefer modern, modernday modern podcast app. I've46100:27:12,060 --> 00:27:15,660been saying this for months andmonths. And some people pick it46200:27:15,660 --> 00:27:19,410up a little bit. Actually, DreamJames Cridland uses that very46300:27:19,410 --> 00:27:20,010often.46400:27:21,300 --> 00:27:23,640It's the meaning people it wasthe46500:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,460podcast is the podcasters ship,that's if you want to help46600:27:26,460 --> 00:27:31,350podcasting 2.0 You need toremind your listeners to get a46700:27:31,350 --> 00:27:34,110modern podcast app. And that'swhy we have new podcast apps46800:27:34,140 --> 00:27:34,680calm.46900:27:35,430 --> 00:27:38,190I feel like there needs to bethis PR component to it where47000:27:38,190 --> 00:27:43,980people feel like they they'regetting like their their money47100:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,700missing out like like a FOMO ifthey don't also say like this47200:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,670whole thing of, you know, getget to show wherever you get47300:27:50,670 --> 00:27:53,850your podcast, that became athing because it other people47400:27:53,850 --> 00:27:57,840were doing it. If we if we makeit popular to say, Get out, you47500:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,930know, don't use don't use acrappy podcast app get a better47600:28:00,930 --> 00:28:01,170here's47700:28:01,170 --> 00:28:04,110what I do. If you want to ensurethat the next time you listen to47800:28:04,110 --> 00:28:06,930the no agenda show that youactually get it on your podcast47900:28:06,930 --> 00:28:10,320app, and it's updated within 60seconds of me releasing it and48000:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,860you want all these cool newfeatures, get a modern podcast48100:28:13,860 --> 00:28:19,650app, a new podcast apps calm butalso the apps you know, apps48200:28:19,650 --> 00:28:22,980need to be marketing themselvesyou know, software that's and48300:28:22,980 --> 00:28:25,440not everyone has that aspirationby the way, not everybody48400:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,230aspires to going out ofmarketing their app, but the48500:28:28,230 --> 00:28:30,750ones that do see success48600:28:31,650 --> 00:28:35,760Well, it's not just podcasting2.0 apps to its I was the48700:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,410broader indie independentpodcast app ecosystem so I mean,48800:28:40,410 --> 00:28:43,110that's that's for us addict and48900:28:43,410 --> 00:28:45,990then and for us it's hard whenpeople ask me all the time, what49000:28:45,990 --> 00:28:47,940do you recommend? I can'trecommend anything that's not49100:28:47,940 --> 00:28:51,540fair. Yeah, go Tron. And I likethem all for different reasons.49200:28:51,540 --> 00:28:55,530Honestly. I use five six appscontinuously.49300:28:56,250 --> 00:29:01,680Same now but yeah, I feel I feltlike we can make a dent in this49400:29:01,740 --> 00:29:06,930behemoth of apple pie. I go backkeep going back to this example49500:29:06,930 --> 00:29:11,790of Google Chrome that neverships on any computer all these49600:29:11,820 --> 00:29:15,060this this dominant market sharethat Google Chrome has grown49700:29:15,060 --> 00:29:15,390because49800:29:15,390 --> 00:29:18,240people point that's a hugepoint.49900:29:19,230 --> 00:29:24,060Dan, you're a marketing guy.What do we do? Dance Dance more50000:29:24,060 --> 00:29:26,820marketing guy they you knowbelieve me damn it when I say50100:29:26,820 --> 00:29:27,960that I'm sincere. I'm50200:29:28,260 --> 00:29:32,850not the reason I laugh becauseI'm the only things that me and50300:29:32,850 --> 00:29:37,530Dan have ever done together havebeen dismal failures. How about50400:29:37,530 --> 00:29:40,110that you add that user ID aboutthis?50500:29:40,140 --> 00:29:42,660I mean, you know it's beenpicked up by everyone it's50600:29:42,690 --> 00:29:46,950supported across the industryuniversally and you know, we're50700:29:46,950 --> 00:29:50,520getting our we should be gettingour Platinum our check for that.50800:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,020Yeah, and the check to checkYeah, where's that? Um, I don't50900:29:55,020 --> 00:29:58,140know what you guys I don't know.Because the thing is, you know,51000:29:58,170 --> 00:30:01,320if you if you look at the stats,and I'm I see stats all the time51100:30:01,350 --> 00:30:04,590with the fireside stuff and I'mseeing them in our spooler stuff51200:30:04,590 --> 00:30:09,270to some degree. It's I mean, itreally is overwhelmingly still51300:30:09,270 --> 00:30:13,290like everybody, stupid.Everybody uses Apple podcasts51400:30:13,290 --> 00:30:16,860like it's, it's there on yourphone. And it's that's the the51500:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,730really at the end of the day, itcomes down to that. And the51600:30:20,730 --> 00:30:23,940difference is thatdiscriminating people will say,51700:30:23,970 --> 00:30:26,160Well, I'm going to try adifferent app for this, or my51800:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800friend said to try this one, orI'm already using a different51900:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,780one. And they don't care what'son their phone, when they take52000:30:30,780 --> 00:30:33,390it out of the box, you know, andyou're to your point about52100:30:33,390 --> 00:30:37,560Chrome. Yeah, people have to goand download Chrome. And they52200:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,500have to know to do that. And I'malways a little bit surprised52300:30:40,500 --> 00:30:45,150when someone that I consider tobe kind of an Normie, or a new,52400:30:45,150 --> 00:30:48,480you know, somebody who's just aregular human being has chrome52500:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240on their Mac, for example, andthey're not using Safari that52600:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,710always throws me a little bit,you know,52700:30:52,710 --> 00:30:56,280but we have so again, it doesn'tmatter to me that most people52800:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,580listen on Apple. In fact, themore apple breaks, the more52900:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,850people choose the modern podcastapp, I have it every single day.53000:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,360It's like, Oh, it didn't, youdidn't upload it to Apple, okay.53100:31:07,740 --> 00:31:11,730Go get it, go get it over here.Doesn't doesn't really matter to53200:31:11,730 --> 00:31:14,160me. And it doesn't it overall,doesn't matter. We have the53300:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,980connective tissue, I believe.And it just it's taking time,53400:31:19,980 --> 00:31:23,490but it's taking off of the valuefor value streaming payments.53500:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520That's what binds everybodytogether. incentivize53600:31:26,550 --> 00:31:30,960incentivizes the entireecosystem. And we're moving53700:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,530towards that. It's just time.It's just time. And this size53800:31:34,530 --> 00:31:37,380doesn't matter. But Apple be thenumber one, lots of people drive53900:31:37,410 --> 00:31:39,090ugly ass shit cars, too.54000:31:39,750 --> 00:31:45,990Well, now the the Google Chromeanalogy, I think it kind of54100:31:45,990 --> 00:31:50,100bears out what it what it meansto be cool. Give me54200:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,800a pretending like because Googledoesn't have a marketing budget54300:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,380for that. How about the searchengines? I mean, there's all54400:31:55,380 --> 00:31:59,100kinds of there was on bothsides. It's on both sides. It's54500:31:59,100 --> 00:31:59,460you know,54600:31:59,790 --> 00:32:02,100you want it but but themarketing the marketing budget54700:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,520for Chrome? See, I don't thinkthat's where they won. Because54800:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,790Mike, Microsoft has marketingbudgets to it that at one time54900:32:08,790 --> 00:32:12,090were much bigger than Google.And what I'm saying is, I think55000:32:12,120 --> 00:32:19,290the chrome one, because itbecame uncool. To use Internet55100:32:19,290 --> 00:32:23,910Explorer, that's a very validpoint. It became like you were55200:32:23,940 --> 00:32:26,790you were a loser. You'reconsidered to be like an old,55300:32:26,820 --> 00:32:30,240like an old, you know, like anold person. Like, it wasn't like55400:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,030Facebook, Facebook or whatever.Oh, you still use Facebook? I55500:32:33,030 --> 00:32:35,910mean, that's like, I would neveruse that. Yeah, right now,55600:32:35,910 --> 00:32:39,540right. So somehow, somehowthere, there has to be this,55700:32:39,780 --> 00:32:43,830this cool factor that, that thathappens and, you know, clear55800:32:43,830 --> 00:32:46,860clearly. I know everything I'mtalking about with marketing. So55900:32:47,250 --> 00:32:52,050that we have we have 15 coolfactor features. You know, some56000:32:52,050 --> 00:32:56,730nerdy Well, chapters is a realthing. I mean, chapters is56100:32:56,730 --> 00:32:59,940something being being discussed.Let's talk about spooler right56200:32:59,940 --> 00:33:05,040now. And by the way, James Oh,bogs didn't contact me and asked56300:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,010me to be a part of thiswonderful venture. I'm so56400:33:08,010 --> 00:33:11,460disciplined. I'll take it upwith him. So disappointed. How56500:33:11,460 --> 00:33:14,130did this come? What is spooler?How this come together? Dan?56600:33:14,130 --> 00:33:16,770What? Give us some details.56700:33:16,830 --> 00:33:23,220Yes. So um, so I think it waslike the original idea was fully56800:33:23,220 --> 00:33:26,640I think, fully formed beforethey before they found me and56900:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,710this was the, the founders orAndy Bowers, James bhagsu57000:33:31,710 --> 00:33:36,960mentioned and Henry Blodgettwho, who runs insider comm. And57100:33:37,020 --> 00:33:40,080they had this concept, I thinkthey called it something like,57200:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,980like, like always on audio news,or something like that. But the57300:33:43,980 --> 00:33:48,210idea behind it was really, theidea that you could have, you57400:33:48,210 --> 00:33:52,890know, podcasts are, areprimarily used for things later,57500:33:52,890 --> 00:33:55,470right, like, oh, the big now,whatever the Big Apple event,57600:33:55,470 --> 00:33:57,330and then we're going to talkabout it later or whatever.57700:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,570Because it's difficult to getthat kind of immediacy and57800:34:00,570 --> 00:34:04,170urgency around a podcast. Now,when you record because your57900:34:04,170 --> 00:34:07,140background is in broadcasting,you've got a really, really58000:34:07,140 --> 00:34:09,690great workflow that lets yourecord something. And58100:34:09,690 --> 00:34:13,110essentially, like, it's live totape, you can you can publish58200:34:13,110 --> 00:34:17,580the thing almost immediately.But, you know, even even58300:34:17,580 --> 00:34:21,480something like that. It's, it'sa different technology, a58400:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,720different technique than the waythat news companies are really58500:34:24,720 --> 00:34:29,160organized and set up to run. Andso the idea was, maybe we could58600:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,930use the kind of contentinsertion, I won't call it ad58700:34:33,990 --> 00:34:37,620insertion, because that limitsthe concept of what it is. But58800:34:37,770 --> 00:34:41,610that that same technology that'sused for dynamic ad insertion in58900:34:41,610 --> 00:34:44,700a lot of podcasts, couldn't weuse something like that to59000:34:44,700 --> 00:34:48,960create content that's based onstories, news stories that are59100:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,440breaking and that are updating?So what you have is you have59200:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,120this concept of a new story or anew segment. And and so the59300:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,540example you might use is likeBiden is going to In the nuclear59400:35:00,540 --> 00:35:03,420summit, Biden is attending thenuclear summit, Biden attended59500:35:03,420 --> 00:35:05,400the nuclear summit. And I hadthis to say about it. Well,59600:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,760technically, that's one story,right? That's a lifecycle of a59700:35:08,760 --> 00:35:15,360single, a single story. Andmaybe there's a way to take that59800:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,070story. And automatically as thestory gets updated, essentially,59900:35:20,460 --> 00:35:25,200publish that. But have it bepart of a bigger set of news60000:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,840stories that in other words,isn't is an episode of a60100:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,350podcast. But then as theseindividual stories get updated,60200:35:31,470 --> 00:35:34,620the episode can be republished,some of the content is brand60300:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,500new, some of it is beingupdated. And so you get this60400:35:37,530 --> 00:35:40,170almost like a river of news.That was kind of the original60500:35:40,410 --> 00:35:44,640concept. And so the, you know,using those tools to do that,60600:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,910that means that you can havedifferent reporters or different60700:35:47,910 --> 00:35:50,580voice talent or differentcontent creators in different60800:35:50,580 --> 00:35:53,460places. They're all saying, Oh,here's a news story, they can60900:35:53,460 --> 00:35:58,080record that thing and publishit. And then it gets updated61000:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,270within this larger episode, thislarger podcast, and that's kind61100:36:03,270 --> 00:36:07,320of the, you know, the thegenesis of this idea and just61200:36:07,380 --> 00:36:12,780does a new episode each time oryou, you, you pick up the same61300:36:12,780 --> 00:36:14,700episode, each time is different.61400:36:15,030 --> 00:36:18,630Yeah, you're getting essentiallybecause of the way that that61500:36:18,690 --> 00:36:21,930gives you IDs work behind thescenes in order for podcast61600:36:21,930 --> 00:36:26,040clients to actually get thatupdate. Right? It needs to be a61700:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,220new episode, otherwise, thepeople would only ever hear61800:36:29,220 --> 00:36:32,640those updates, if they, so maybeyou ask him what kind of spec61900:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,060for this. But, you know, becauseright now, the thing that62000:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,840triggers a podcast client todownload something is that62100:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,890different grid, that's what itsays to them, I've got something62200:36:43,890 --> 00:36:46,200new to download, it's notpublished date, it's not62300:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,440anything yet. It's not thetitle. It's that grid. So in62400:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,500order to push new content out,we've got to update that well.62500:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,780So that's where kind of thegenesis of this embeddable62600:36:54,780 --> 00:36:59,370player that is really useful fora news organization is, and that62700:36:59,370 --> 00:37:02,790is we use a completely differentmechanism to update these62800:37:02,790 --> 00:37:06,090players. But the idea is thatyou go to the website, in this62900:37:06,090 --> 00:37:08,640case, it would be insider, butcould be any, any news website,63000:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,760any website, you would go tothat. And there's going to be a63100:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,190player that's going to beautomatically updating itself,63200:37:14,190 --> 00:37:16,890whenever there's new content andshowing you what's new. So63300:37:16,950 --> 00:37:20,190alright, so hold on, he callslet me understand something. So63400:37:20,220 --> 00:37:24,300yeah, part of the strategy isyou have a specialized player,63500:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,870which is necessary for the wayit works. And how do we make63600:37:27,870 --> 00:37:30,930this work on podcasting? 2.0?Can we make that work? What can63700:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,470we do? Is that a pod ping thing?How do we accomplish this?63800:37:34,739 --> 00:37:37,709Yeah, I mean, I think it couldvery well be because, you know,63900:37:37,769 --> 00:37:41,999again, the RSS feeds with theright kind of tags in them.64000:37:42,179 --> 00:37:45,239Maybe there's a way, I don'tknow. But it would be really64100:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,239great. If there was some othertrigger that could say read64200:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,379download this episode. And Mark,it is new. I don't know I64300:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,989haven't given that a ton ofthought, but but64400:37:54,989 --> 00:37:57,419we get we've gotten, we'vegotten you know, we've refreshed64500:37:57,419 --> 00:38:00,869refresh the metadata now onevery on every poll. So if64600:38:00,869 --> 00:38:04,829something has changed within thefeed, like, so, we're looking at64700:38:04,829 --> 00:38:09,539the item details themselves. Andif one of those item details has64800:38:09,539 --> 00:38:14,939changed, it will trigger sort ofa refresh in the database. So it64900:38:14,939 --> 00:38:18,929sounds to me, like, what'shappening is there's a lot of65000:38:18,929 --> 00:38:20,849and this is why I wanted to haveyou on because I wanted to get65100:38:20,849 --> 00:38:25,559through this whole topic. The itsounds to me like what is be65200:38:25,559 --> 00:38:30,299critical for this is pod payingsupport. Yeah. Because Because65300:38:30,299 --> 00:38:34,019when, you know, every time thefeed or something in the feed65400:38:34,019 --> 00:38:37,859changes, or the audio enclosurechanges, or something, there65500:38:37,859 --> 00:38:41,939needs to be if it can happen, soif it can happen really quickly,65600:38:42,479 --> 00:38:47,099like within hours, rather thanyou know, then is we really need65700:38:47,099 --> 00:38:49,979to be getting, like some kind oftrigger that says, okay,65800:38:49,979 --> 00:38:51,419something changed, somethingchanged something.65900:38:51,450 --> 00:38:55,290Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.And you know, with RSS feeds,66000:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,260you know, there's some, you needsomething like, like popping,66100:38:58,260 --> 00:39:00,600you need something like that.And that's absolutely something66200:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,440that they want to66300:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,920do. Damn. So let me justunderstand the business here. Is66400:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,060this intended for newsorganizations to use spooler? Or66500:39:09,060 --> 00:39:13,170is the you see this as aconsumer product? What exactly66600:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,020is the product? Yeah,66700:39:16,110 --> 00:39:19,410so yes, the answer to yourquestion is yes to both things66800:39:19,410 --> 00:39:23,640right now for sure. 100% This issomething that news66900:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,810organizations would do whenwe've had like crazy interest,67000:39:28,050 --> 00:39:31,410but they they love this becausewhat this means is typically67100:39:31,410 --> 00:39:34,350especially news organizationsthat have like a radio arm67200:39:34,350 --> 00:39:39,360already, they can get rid ofpeople. Well, probably, but what67300:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,670they what they're doing isthey're generating sometimes67400:39:41,670 --> 00:39:44,490hundreds of news stories, andthey're essentially they're67500:39:44,490 --> 00:39:47,220sending those to theiraffiliates. And their affiliates67600:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,470are like taking the ones theywant but when they're editing67700:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,720them down into a radio show orwhatever they're doing it's67800:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,690there's like it's editing likeit's legit like they're Embroid67900:39:54,690 --> 00:39:57,660God Pro Tools or whatever. Andthey're they're editing stuff68000:39:57,660 --> 00:40:00,780together. And with thissolution, it's all programmatics68100:40:00,780 --> 00:40:03,390when you're listening tosomething that spelers created,68200:40:03,750 --> 00:40:06,900we're doing everything behindthe scenes. We're taking those68300:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,390different news stories, what wecall segments, and we're68400:40:09,390 --> 00:40:11,850organizing them. And you can youcan just by dragging and68500:40:11,850 --> 00:40:14,010dropping, you can pick them, youcan pick the order.68600:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,460They get a CMS that they put,yes,68700:40:17,490 --> 00:40:21,030yes. And then there's this riverwithin the CMS of oh, here's all68800:40:21,030 --> 00:40:23,430the stories I can choose from, Ican put them in the order that I68900:40:23,430 --> 00:40:25,980want. I can put little soundeffects in there. I can put in69000:40:25,980 --> 00:40:29,820themes. I can have looping musicbeds, I can do intros, outros, I69100:40:29,820 --> 00:40:33,750can do ad insertion, obviously.And when I hit that publish69200:40:33,750 --> 00:40:38,220button, it's going to take allof that build an mp3, it's going69300:40:38,220 --> 00:40:41,640to, you know, completely sweetenthe audio with the Dolby stuff.69400:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,670And then it's going to publishit both to the player and to the69500:40:44,670 --> 00:40:48,510RSS feed. And so the player hasa different feed that it uses.69600:40:48,510 --> 00:40:52,050It's not RSS, it's JSON, thatjust a custom JSON that we use69700:40:52,050 --> 00:40:55,980to power the player. And thenthe RSS feed, it gets updated.69800:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,340And of course, we're doingchapters and everything else69900:40:59,340 --> 00:41:02,010that you would normally do do anmp3 file and delivering it down.70000:41:02,010 --> 00:41:02,310Yeah.70100:41:02,819 --> 00:41:06,119How about podcasts in 2.0chapters? Can we get some70200:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,649namespace for this?70300:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,170That is very high on the list,the next thing that we're70400:41:10,170 --> 00:41:10,740working on,70500:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,420the pod thing has got to becritical in here. Yeah,70600:41:15,419 --> 00:41:19,829we can we can, because what itdoes, excuse me that the way I70700:41:19,829 --> 00:41:22,529see it is it would help you withyour consumer part of the70800:41:22,529 --> 00:41:25,169business, which is it seemsundeveloped as of yet.70900:41:25,350 --> 00:41:28,590Yes. By His name secret or justsecret secret?71000:41:29,159 --> 00:41:34,349Oh, I'm sorry. I need to say,Wow, I'm under NDA. Oh, I wish I71100:41:34,349 --> 00:41:41,129could tell you all the secret.I'd love you, Todd. The, you71200:41:41,129 --> 00:41:44,159know, we can immediately youknow, depending on support, but71300:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,999I don't see why not. It youknow, we can make a lot of this71400:41:47,999 --> 00:41:51,179into the new apps. And you wouldhave a consumer play right71500:41:51,179 --> 00:41:54,839there. I would love that. Yeah,we and by the way, Dave, they're71600:41:54,839 --> 00:41:58,589looking for a senior softwareengineer, you would like to be71700:41:58,619 --> 00:42:00,869early applicant, I can clickhere apply. And71800:42:01,590 --> 00:42:04,260they can't they can't afford me.I don't think71900:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,500so. You're right. So how did youget involved in this, Dan? I72000:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,080mean, yeah, because you're thechief technology officer. Of72100:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,630course, we all we all know,James, I guess you knew him a72200:42:12,630 --> 00:42:13,680bit better than me.72300:42:14,309 --> 00:42:18,119James, it's all because ofJames. So um, James, James left72400:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,329Apple. And I think he was, youknow, just figuring out what he72500:42:21,329 --> 00:42:24,929wanted to do next. And after,after he reached out to me, I72600:42:24,929 --> 00:42:27,749was just kind of I had seen thetweet that he made when he was72700:42:27,749 --> 00:42:30,509leaving apple. And I said, Hey,man, I said, whatever you're72800:42:30,509 --> 00:42:34,079doing next, like I want I wantto be part of it. Because I72900:42:34,109 --> 00:42:37,259always enjoyed working with himat Apple. He was so helpful to73000:42:37,259 --> 00:42:38,909me and to five by five and73100:42:39,450 --> 00:42:43,470fireside was very gracious. Oh,nice. Oh, absolutely.73200:42:43,500 --> 00:42:47,130I mean, and he's one of theseguys that he's just like, when73300:42:47,130 --> 00:42:49,980you meet him in the first fiveminutes, like he was so nice.73400:42:50,010 --> 00:42:52,680And like, he's always that nice.Like, he's just one of these73500:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,490genuinely kind, nice peoplewho's enthusiastic about the73600:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,730stuff you guys are doing andstuff I've been doing. And so a73700:42:59,730 --> 00:43:02,340little while later, he's like,Were you serious? When you said73800:43:02,340 --> 00:43:04,950you might want to work on somewith me? I'm like, Yeah, I would73900:43:04,950 --> 00:43:07,650love to work on something withyou. And, and so that's when he74000:43:07,650 --> 00:43:11,340introduced me to Andy. And they,you know, Andy shared what sort74100:43:11,340 --> 00:43:16,890of his vision was and he's beenin, he's like, og podcaster. You74200:43:16,890 --> 00:43:20,550know, he's done so much. And inin the podcasting space, and74300:43:20,550 --> 00:43:24,780really cares about the news ispassionate about the news. And,74400:43:24,870 --> 00:43:27,240you know, they, they had thisidea, and they told me what the74500:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,150idea was, and they're like, youknow, do you want to help us74600:43:30,150 --> 00:43:33,090build? And I'm like, obviously,yes, this is amazing. This is74700:43:33,090 --> 00:43:36,720really cool. Because it reallytakes it takes podcasting in a74800:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,810direction that I feel like italways should have been going in74900:43:39,810 --> 00:43:42,300but it but because thetechnology maybe wasn't there or75000:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,960whatever. But that is theimmediacy of news, the urgency75100:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,990of news and, and what's reallycool that I think, Adam, you75200:43:48,990 --> 00:43:52,740would like that behind thescenes. You know, we talked a75300:43:52,740 --> 00:43:57,300lot about this concept ofdefining truth at a specific75400:43:57,300 --> 00:44:03,510moment in time. And what we havebuilt into this system is that75500:44:03,570 --> 00:44:08,190the news as it's being reported,essentially, in fact, should be75600:44:08,220 --> 00:44:12,120almost immutable. So you havealmost almost this concept of a75700:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,950blockchain Nish SNESs in a wayin that it what what it lets you75800:44:16,950 --> 00:44:19,560do is when when you're updatinga news story, the previous75900:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,770version of that news story ispreserved. So you have these76000:44:22,770 --> 00:44:25,710different versions in any updatecreates automatically.76100:44:26,099 --> 00:44:29,909No, no, no, no news organizationwants to have that they want to76200:44:29,909 --> 00:44:32,039be able to delete delete theshit that they know76300:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,379and get rid of. We don't wantthat. That's the76400:44:34,380 --> 00:44:36,750but the thing is 198476500:44:37,050 --> 00:44:39,870I can't have I know but isn't.Wouldn't that be great if you76600:44:39,870 --> 00:44:43,320could hold people accountable tothe stuff that they said? They76700:44:43,320 --> 00:44:43,440were76800:44:43,440 --> 00:44:50,190there, Dan? I want your ventureto be successful man. Listen to76900:44:50,190 --> 00:44:54,720your uncle Adam. Now on thisone. We I'd love to support you.77000:44:54,750 --> 00:45:00,420It sounds and I like James. Isecretly I had the feeling He77100:45:00,420 --> 00:45:03,090felt that podcasting was in goodhands and he could leave and let77200:45:03,090 --> 00:45:07,110Apple go fuck it up. Which,yeah, and that's I've always77300:45:07,110 --> 00:45:10,440felt like okay, the Curry's iscrazy guy, but I think we're77400:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,810safe there with podcasting ingeneral. And it's nice to see77500:45:15,810 --> 00:45:19,200when Axel Springer who investedin the venture, they're serious77600:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,070people that you know, that's notthat's not a venture capital77700:45:23,070 --> 00:45:26,550play. That's that's a realthat's a real organization77800:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,450broadcast organization thatunderstands this news, etc. Now,77900:45:30,450 --> 00:45:33,390I will say like Russian to theGermans do always want their78000:45:33,390 --> 00:45:35,310money back. So beware.78100:45:38,909 --> 00:45:42,989I'm looking at the podcast feedforum in my right and in78200:45:42,989 --> 00:45:46,199understanding that there's onlyone feed right now.78300:45:46,349 --> 00:45:49,829Correct. There is there is arefresh. Mm hmm. That is the78400:45:49,859 --> 00:45:54,299that is the big show that hascome out of of the Insider. And78500:45:54,299 --> 00:45:57,329that was our they're the firstfolks that we're working with.78600:45:57,329 --> 00:46:01,949But there the plan, of course,would be to have every, you78700:46:01,949 --> 00:46:04,799know, every news organization inthe world should want to do78800:46:04,799 --> 00:46:07,709this. So they should all comein, come to us and say we want78900:46:07,709 --> 00:46:11,189that. And you know, and then wecan we can come out.79000:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,849Okay, so then I'm looking at thefeed right now. And what I'm79100:46:14,849 --> 00:46:18,749seeing is there's so when let'sjust take this one, for79200:46:18,749 --> 00:46:22,709instance, march 4, FinalEdition, must sets blah, blah,79300:46:22,709 --> 00:46:27,569blah, the title, this item, ifif this gets updated with new79400:46:27,569 --> 00:46:32,249audio, is what in this item isgoing to change the GU ID or79500:46:32,249 --> 00:46:35,189just the or decal enclosure? Oris there anything visible that79600:46:35,189 --> 00:46:35,729changes?79700:46:35,969 --> 00:46:40,169They would probably also changethe title. Because they you79800:46:40,169 --> 00:46:42,599know, there's technically youwouldn't have to change the79900:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,479title, but they typically are sowith each update the way that80000:46:45,479 --> 00:46:48,059they're doing it is I thinkthey're releasing, you know, a80100:46:48,059 --> 00:46:51,389handful throughout the day. AndI think that, you know, you80200:46:51,389 --> 00:46:54,959know, Will Will it becomehourly? I think it could. But80300:46:54,989 --> 00:46:59,519you know, it's definitelymultiple, multiple per day. And80400:46:59,789 --> 00:47:02,699they typically will change thetitle. So depending on how you80500:47:02,699 --> 00:47:04,949wanted to do it, you might havea morning edition afternoon or80600:47:04,949 --> 00:47:07,649an evening, what they call thefinal addition, for the day80700:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,070two, this will be so sexy withchapters with links and80800:47:11,070 --> 00:47:16,140transcripts. Oh sexy that youryour customers will love that.80900:47:16,380 --> 00:47:17,820I would hope so. Yeah.81000:47:17,820 --> 00:47:20,430So do you have customers yet?You have you have customers in81100:47:20,430 --> 00:47:21,690the door? Oh,81200:47:21,930 --> 00:47:26,220you know, I can't NDA about it.I can't talk about but yes. I81300:47:26,220 --> 00:47:29,310mean, yes. There's a lot ofthere's tremendous, tremendous81400:47:29,340 --> 00:47:31,410and shocking, shocking interest.81500:47:31,710 --> 00:47:35,730Okay, calm calm down. You'redoing it. You're overshadowing81600:47:35,730 --> 00:47:39,540me, you're overdoing it now.Damn. It, yes.81700:47:39,659 --> 00:47:47,879Now. Okay. Now, so the URL ofthe enclosure does not change.81800:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,160It does when a new episode isupdated. So that needs a new new81900:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,870file name in the case so that itwould would change to if they if82000:47:57,870 --> 00:48:01,470they wanted it to. And there's,you know, it's unfortunate that82100:48:01,470 --> 00:48:04,410that's the only real mechanismthat we have. That's the only82200:48:04,410 --> 00:48:04,710way that82300:48:05,250 --> 00:48:09,600pod ping brother. That's why podpig is perfect for this. So if82400:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,150and all your publishers need tohit pod ping, and then you're82500:48:12,150 --> 00:48:12,630done.82600:48:12,989 --> 00:48:16,019So if we have if we have podbacon going and we don't update82700:48:16,019 --> 00:48:19,289the grid, I don't know maybe thefile name updates, will that82800:48:19,289 --> 00:48:23,849cause an redownload to happen inNUS compliant nines?82900:48:24,119 --> 00:48:28,349No? Well, it will, it will tellcomply, it will tell anybody83000:48:28,349 --> 00:48:32,639watching the piping, Blockchainactivity, it will tell them that83100:48:32,639 --> 00:48:35,459something in the feed changed.And they need to go figure out83200:48:35,459 --> 00:48:39,059what it is right. So let's getgoing. We'll get going. Yeah,83300:48:39,059 --> 00:48:43,769the way we would do it is goingto be that if if the title83400:48:43,769 --> 00:48:47,069changes, or the feed route URLchanges, or the pub date83500:48:47,069 --> 00:48:51,029changes, anything other thandescription, because description83600:48:51,389 --> 00:48:54,299can be dynamic, and it doesn'tmean that anything substantive83700:48:54,299 --> 00:48:59,399changed. So if any of thoseother fields, title gwit,83800:48:59,429 --> 00:49:02,519obviously enclosure and pubdate, any of that jazz, if any83900:49:02,519 --> 00:49:06,959of that image, URL, any of thatchanges, we'll get we'll get the84000:49:06,959 --> 00:49:07,589new copy.84100:49:07,620 --> 00:49:12,000Correct, but can't but can't podping signal. Hey, update to XYZ,84200:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,080here's what you got to do.84300:49:13,710 --> 00:49:16,620Well, here's here's what, here'swhat I want to ask you about84400:49:16,620 --> 00:49:22,920that specific thing. Dan, isthat, like, is there a live84500:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,400component is going to be part ofspooler?84600:49:27,179 --> 00:49:30,059I mean, I, I think I would liketo build that that's not84700:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,729something we're talking about alot. But I would I would love to84800:49:32,729 --> 00:49:33,029okay,84900:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,040because that that's, it makesthat seems to be the logical85000:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,580next thing you think of is likeif you're, if it's sort of like85100:49:41,580 --> 00:49:45,960this rapid news update thing,then you would think that there85200:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,350might be a sort of livecomponent where it's like, okay,85300:49:49,350 --> 00:49:52,110I can go live now. And yeah,here's the thing. Here's a85400:49:52,110 --> 00:49:55,380broadcast and that will beyou'll, when you finish it, it85500:49:55,380 --> 00:49:56,760gets stitched into the audio.85600:49:56,789 --> 00:49:59,639Yeah. Can I use that on our showyet? Dave? Is it almost ready?85700:49:59,999 --> 00:50:00,809Yeah, yeah. Wait,85800:50:00,900 --> 00:50:01,650I'm waiting on you.85900:50:01,710 --> 00:50:04,740What do you mean? You're waitingon me? You told me. Don't Don't86000:50:04,740 --> 00:50:08,580do that to me. Seriously? Yeah.What am I supposed to86100:50:08,579 --> 00:50:11,909do? I think we're good to go. Idon't know what to do. Yeah, but86200:50:12,209 --> 00:50:15,509we get it. We get a cuddle andtalk about Okay.86300:50:15,570 --> 00:50:18,000All right. Well, you haven'tbeen very cuddly lately, dear.86400:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,260It's been a little annoying. I'm86500:50:19,290 --> 00:50:21,060not the been the one. That'sokay.86600:50:21,089 --> 00:50:24,929Well, listen, I my job so I canfeed this family. Okay.86700:50:30,690 --> 00:50:34,470There's a lot of love in theroom. That's very exciting. Dan,86800:50:34,470 --> 00:50:37,890I look forward to us integratingwith that. That'll be very cool.86900:50:38,010 --> 00:50:41,790Have you gotten into value forvalue at all? And not related to87000:50:41,790 --> 00:50:47,040spooler? But just podcasts andinto boosting and streaming?87100:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,249going, Man, I think that's whereeverything is going. I think.87200:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,829Could you could you could yourephrase that and say, I'm87300:50:52,829 --> 00:50:57,119shocked at the interest. It'sjust outrageous. It's87400:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,689insane. What kind of interestthere is right now and value for87500:51:00,689 --> 00:51:02,459value? I'm seeing it everywhere87600:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,990I go. I love you, man.87700:51:05,519 --> 00:51:07,589Yeah, have you a future way ofthe future?87800:51:07,590 --> 00:51:09,360Have you used it yourself atall?87900:51:10,289 --> 00:51:15,179Not in as effective as a way asyou do. But I have one show now88000:51:15,179 --> 00:51:17,819that's completely listenersupported and I would I would88100:51:17,819 --> 00:51:21,269prefer to only do listenersupport on a personal level.88200:51:21,569 --> 00:51:25,859Only doing listener supportedonly only doing things where we88300:51:25,859 --> 00:51:28,649have direct engagement andinvolvement with the audience.88400:51:28,649 --> 00:51:31,289It's so much better even if itmeans I make less or even if it88500:51:31,289 --> 00:51:34,709means I make very little I thinkit's worth it because it'd be88600:51:34,709 --> 00:51:34,829you88700:51:34,829 --> 00:51:38,369don't that's the thing. Well,the really doesn't matter. And88800:51:38,429 --> 00:51:41,219with the booster grams, peoplegoing nuts. It's really88900:51:41,219 --> 00:51:44,639interesting. It's wetransitioned, except for our89000:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,909monthly pay pals. And you know,we have two larger, larger89100:51:47,909 --> 00:51:53,939donors, Mark, overcast andBuzzsprout. I think the89200:51:53,939 --> 00:51:57,479transition to streaming SATs andboosting has been pretty good89300:51:57,479 --> 00:52:01,349actually. We probably it's alittle lower overall, but but89400:52:01,349 --> 00:52:05,729people there's more people doingit. And in hell kind of froze89500:52:05,729 --> 00:52:09,479over. I actually opened achannel to Todd Cochran node89600:52:09,479 --> 00:52:14,489today. Really? I didn't expectthat to happen. Yeah, he built89700:52:14,489 --> 00:52:17,279himself. did he build his ownnode? Yeah, he's89800:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,630got a Raspberry Pi with an Mwith an umbrella. Yeah. That's89900:52:21,630 --> 00:52:24,870pretty cool. Why don't you? Whydon't you have an umbrella? And90000:52:25,110 --> 00:52:27,480I mean, Raspberry Pi on alightning node and stuff. Dan,90100:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,870me You're, you're such a geek,you would love that. Yeah. You90200:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,670totally love playing with thatstuff. I would love to get it90300:52:35,670 --> 00:52:37,590with all your spare time withall your spare time.90400:52:37,619 --> 00:52:40,169Yeah, that's that's the onlyproblem. That's a problem.90500:52:41,429 --> 00:52:52,199Yeah, I am. So go ahead. No, sheis so from this new this from90600:52:52,319 --> 00:52:57,959from this new product? What?What has jumped out at you? And90700:52:57,959 --> 00:53:03,359this is the other big question Iwant to ask of, of what? I don't90800:53:03,359 --> 00:53:08,789want to phrase this. What haveyou seen that would make it what90900:53:08,789 --> 00:53:15,659tags? Or what new things in thefeed? Can we build that would91000:53:15,659 --> 00:53:20,969help you to more to more realizethis vision that spooler wants91100:53:20,969 --> 00:53:21,449to do?91200:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,719That's a great question.Because, you know, like I91300:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,449mentioned earlier to power theplayer, the player has little,91400:53:27,539 --> 00:53:32,549you know, it's essentially likea mini podcast app in a way in91500:53:32,549 --> 00:53:36,899that, you know, we can pulldata, we can do things right now91600:53:36,899 --> 00:53:41,369delivered mainly over RSS. And Ithink, really, there isn't that91700:53:41,369 --> 00:53:45,869much that that is in that that'sin there that we want at this91800:53:45,869 --> 00:53:51,329point. But But what I can seedown the road, when when I think91900:53:51,329 --> 00:53:54,029about this, I think aboutpersonalization, like how cool92000:53:54,029 --> 00:53:58,679would it be, if I could say Iwant this kind of news this way?92100:53:58,949 --> 00:54:03,209You know, how do we how do weadd that layer to it. And I92200:54:03,209 --> 00:54:05,669don't know if that's somethingthat you guys can, you know, can92300:54:05,669 --> 00:54:07,829build in and can help with? Orif it's just something that I92400:54:07,829 --> 00:54:11,609think about a lot because, asyou you know, like, if you look92500:54:11,609 --> 00:54:14,039at what happened with the cablecompanies, how they basically92600:54:14,039 --> 00:54:16,319said, this is the cable plan,like you can have this and you92700:54:16,319 --> 00:54:19,829can add HBO and that's like itto what we have now, which is92800:54:19,829 --> 00:54:22,229well I like the Disney plusstuff. So I'm going to get92900:54:22,229 --> 00:54:24,779Disney plus or I like what HBOis offering. And now we're93000:54:24,809 --> 00:54:27,419having to pick and choose fromall these different companies.93100:54:27,839 --> 00:54:31,439It's it's almost like like thatin a way from the podcasting93200:54:31,439 --> 00:54:33,929standpoint. If you could say Ijust want this content, or I93300:54:33,929 --> 00:54:36,179want this content from here andthis content from here and this93400:54:36,179 --> 00:54:39,239content from here and imagine itall coming together and in one93500:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,869place. That's kind of what wewant except right now we're93600:54:42,869 --> 00:54:46,079having to get it from all thesethese different sources. I don't93700:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,899know really, if it's talking butI'm thinking about better93800:54:48,899 --> 00:54:52,079attribution if there's a betterway than just the author tags93900:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,379but credit for writing credits,you know, I'm saying something94000:54:55,379 --> 00:54:59,279that allows if, if you have anepisode of a show that might94100:54:59,279 --> 00:55:02,159pull content from lots ofdifferent places, I feel like94200:55:02,159 --> 00:55:05,729attribution is going to be moreand more and more important over94300:55:05,729 --> 00:55:07,889time. So along those lines94400:55:08,010 --> 00:55:10,710tool that brings up a couple ofthings in my mind, we've got,94500:55:10,770 --> 00:55:14,490we've got a few differentproposals. And these, we hit a94600:55:14,490 --> 00:55:16,770lot of easy stuff in thebeginning of the namespace. So a94700:55:16,770 --> 00:55:19,980lot of and I say, easy inquotes, what I really mean by94800:55:19,980 --> 00:55:23,850easy is that they were sort ofobvious. I mean, you had things94900:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,240low hanging fruit, low hangingfruit, yeah, chapters, and you95000:55:27,240 --> 00:55:33,660had things like pride, like alicense tag meeting things like95100:55:33,660 --> 00:55:37,350this, this like, Okay, well,fine. But then, as we go95200:55:37,350 --> 00:55:39,870forward, hitting the harderthings, the things that take95300:55:39,870 --> 00:55:43,140longer to build, and they needschema, and they need protocol.95400:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,080And so like things like thecross app comments and all that95500:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,940jazz, here, one thing, there's afew of these types of things95600:55:50,940 --> 00:55:55,710that have been banned, you know,thrown around. One is podcast95700:55:55,710 --> 00:55:58,770related. And I think Alex gatesbrought that up, and sort of95800:55:58,770 --> 00:56:03,480this would be a tag, a relatedtag, which was, okay, this, this95900:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,870episode of this podcast isrelated to this other episode of96000:56:06,870 --> 00:56:12,510potentially this other podcast.And basically a way to reference96100:56:12,900 --> 00:56:17,430other material in other podcastswithin a certain feed item.96200:56:18,540 --> 00:56:20,970There's, there's that idea. And96300:56:20,970 --> 00:56:23,430that would be that was kind ofdesigned more for the mythical96400:56:23,430 --> 00:56:24,360discovery.96500:56:26,190 --> 00:56:29,310I think it's more than that.Because like in this was defined96600:56:29,310 --> 00:56:35,850in the context of being able, soif you have a live item, if96700:56:35,850 --> 00:56:39,660somebody goes live, and you havea live item in the feed that96800:56:39,660 --> 00:56:43,950live item ins, well, then youmay also want to then publish96900:56:43,980 --> 00:56:46,590another item, that's exactly thesame thing. So here would be the97000:56:46,590 --> 00:56:51,120flow, it would be, you go live,they listen to your app, and97100:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,230it's live. And then that livestream ends, will then then the97200:56:55,260 --> 00:56:58,950podcaster, goes back edits, theedits the audio down into a97300:56:58,950 --> 00:57:04,020published state, publishes it asan item. And now you could97400:57:04,020 --> 00:57:07,380potentially, if the podcasterwanted this, you could have both97500:57:07,380 --> 00:57:11,160in the feed, you can have thelive unedited raw version in the97600:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,060published version. So this issort of like a studio track and97700:57:15,060 --> 00:57:19,380a live track. And they can bothbe in the feed. And in that97800:57:19,380 --> 00:57:22,020point, you would want to sayyou'd want to be able to connect97900:57:22,020 --> 00:57:26,550them somehow to let the app andthe user know, these, these are98000:57:26,550 --> 00:57:29,820two versions of what isessentially the same thing.98100:57:31,020 --> 00:57:33,630Right. So that's really, that'sthe related idea that you would98200:57:33,630 --> 00:57:39,300say, Okay, this is related tothis other item in this way. So98300:57:39,300 --> 00:57:43,110I could see something there, ifwe flesh that out. And that98400:57:43,110 --> 00:57:47,670becomes as it gets more feet toit, that those sort of98500:57:47,670 --> 00:57:54,300connectors between items, mightbe a way to go and do that. Then98600:57:54,300 --> 00:57:59,280there's this other notion thatthat Tom and Kevin came up with98700:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,700of channels. And these words,they're sort of like thinking98800:58:02,700 --> 00:58:06,540along the lines of part of thenew Apple podcast, ecosystem98900:58:06,540 --> 00:58:10,830channel concept. But but reallynot so much. Just that channel99000:58:10,830 --> 00:58:13,710concept within Apple is tiedreally to subscriptions a lot.99100:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,120So those are more like networks.The these are the channels would99200:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,530be more like groupings ofrelated shows. For any reason,99300:58:22,530 --> 00:58:27,270not just because somebody's gota network. And a wonder, I mean,99400:58:27,270 --> 00:58:32,670that's one of the some thingslike that may address some, do99500:58:32,670 --> 00:58:34,080you think that would addresssome of what you're thinking99600:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,350about?99700:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,900I do? Yeah, I think that's areally neat way to do it. And I99800:58:36,930 --> 00:58:39,780absolutely love the idea of thelive stuff. And I could actually99900:58:39,780 --> 00:58:43,620see, oh, you know, just likey'all doing broadcast100000:58:43,620 --> 00:58:46,140journalism, where you havesomeone introducing something100100:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,450live, and then you've got thepackage that's already been100200:58:48,450 --> 00:58:50,940made, you know, I could seesomething like that working too.100300:58:50,970 --> 00:58:53,610I think it's there's a lot ofpotential, a lot of potential,100400:58:53,640 --> 00:58:59,070I was thinking about namespacetags. And in the context of the100500:58:59,070 --> 00:59:02,490last board meeting, where wewere talking about claim codes,100600:59:03,210 --> 00:59:06,750and it kind of dawned on me,that everything that's that you100700:59:06,750 --> 00:59:10,740need to claim code for, shouldalmost by default, be a100800:59:10,740 --> 00:59:15,180namespace tag. of almost allthese companies are adding some100900:59:15,180 --> 00:59:20,370value, but only within theirown, sometimes fully, sometimes101000:59:20,370 --> 00:59:24,900semi walled garden. There's nobenefit to all the podcast apps.101100:59:25,620 --> 00:59:28,560But you know, when it comes tocomments, ratings, all these101200:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720different things, that's allit's all versions of the same101300:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,960thing. It should all what do youthink Dave? mentum it's it seems101400:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,450to me like you should never haveto go claim something for a101500:59:36,450 --> 00:59:40,800service you should be able toput you know, that information101600:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,900should be able to be handled ina decentralized way and and the101700:59:45,900 --> 00:59:48,570namespace tags does that in mostcases, I think101800:59:50,519 --> 00:59:51,299yeah, I mean,101900:59:52,140 --> 00:59:55,440I'm not I'm not I'm not sayingyou know, remove, remove other102000:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,380companies, etc. But a lot ofthese things that that these102100:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,650companies offer, as I getBecause I get spammed because my102201:00:01,650 --> 01:00:05,280email addresses in the feed. I'mlike, Well, yeah, you know, we102301:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,640can do?102401:00:06,599 --> 01:00:09,539Well, the thing that pops upfirst, I mean that we, you have102501:00:09,539 --> 01:00:14,009to do sort of a claim processwith podcast and washer. And102601:00:14,009 --> 01:00:16,079that that is well that102701:00:16,110 --> 01:00:19,140I'm separate. I'm sorry, I don'tmean to bring up the102801:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,570authentication part because I'min agreement with you there. I102901:00:21,570 --> 01:00:22,320have no problem.103001:00:22,769 --> 01:00:25,739Okay, so you're separating,you're separating ownership from103101:00:25,739 --> 01:00:27,749authentication somehow, or I'mor103201:00:27,780 --> 01:00:31,230what I'm saying is most of theplaces where you are asked to103301:00:31,230 --> 01:00:35,910authenticate are features thatshould be in the namespace.103401:00:35,969 --> 01:00:38,459Oh, okay. I understand. Becauseso what you're saying like in103501:00:38,459 --> 01:00:41,459our ours is, would be a goodexample of that. So we were, you103601:00:41,459 --> 01:00:45,509know, you're claiming, claimingyour feed on podcast or wallet,103701:00:45,509 --> 01:00:48,299and then you and then we holdthe value tags, since you can't103801:00:48,299 --> 01:00:51,809put in your feed yourself. Butreally, you should be putting in103901:00:51,809 --> 01:00:53,969in your feed yourself. Yes.Okay.104001:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,400Exactly. Exactly. But, yeah, soWell, precisely. And as we, I104101:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,690think those types of shimcompanies, who also again, can104201:01:03,690 --> 01:01:07,260be incentivized through thevalue for value streaming,104301:01:07,530 --> 01:01:13,770distribution. You know, thatthat's the way forward in even104401:01:13,770 --> 01:01:17,040if the if these companies go offand do their own thing, I think104501:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,560we should always be looking atwhat are the features people are104601:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,950strapping onto their feed? Andcan we put it in a namespace104701:01:22,950 --> 01:01:23,340tag?104801:01:25,110 --> 01:01:30,240Yeah, next is what watchingwhat? Watching what the industry104901:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,490for lack of a better term,watching what people are seeing105001:01:33,390 --> 01:01:36,600what they need? And then okay,how can we do this in a way105101:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,580where people don't have to havesome Yeah,105201:01:38,609 --> 01:01:41,729it helps all those companieswith those great ideas to get105301:01:41,729 --> 01:01:44,309into all the apps with whateverthey're offering.105401:01:45,690 --> 01:01:49,500Yeah, that makes sense. It does.Yeah. It makes a lot of sense.105501:01:50,250 --> 01:01:54,330Because you can see that youmade it if if enough people need105601:01:54,330 --> 01:01:58,200it, then just make it where itcan be canonical within the105701:01:58,200 --> 01:01:58,590fetus.105801:01:58,620 --> 01:02:02,790Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's a Vthere. Have you seen this105901:02:02,820 --> 01:02:04,290impervious browser?106001:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,379Not even heard of it? No.106101:02:08,130 --> 01:02:10,470So someone sent me this. It'sthe Impaler106201:02:10,469 --> 01:02:13,019pro the impervious.ai. Right.Yeah,106301:02:13,049 --> 01:02:15,839that's the same P Yeah, I haveseen that thing. So the106401:02:15,839 --> 01:02:19,559impervious browser will belaunched publicly, April 7106501:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,949During the Bitcoin 2220 22conference in Miami.106601:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,840Oh, no. Okay, let me let me tryto describe to you what this is.106701:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,010And you'll tell me if I'm, ifI'm even close. All right. This106801:02:32,010 --> 01:02:37,440is just from the name. This issomething that is going to try106901:02:37,440 --> 01:02:43,590to be like Tor. Oh, and it'sgoing to go pump all of your107001:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,510browser requests through theLightning Network. No. Okay. I107101:02:48,510 --> 01:02:50,040don't think so. Take all thatback.107201:02:51,029 --> 01:02:53,549Okay, I'm reading from theirpress release. And it's quite107301:02:53,549 --> 01:02:57,419detailed actually what they havefeatures zoom without zoom107401:02:57,419 --> 01:03:00,449Google Docs without Googlemedium without medium WhatsApp,107501:03:00,449 --> 01:03:03,389without WhatsApp paymentswithout banks identity without107601:03:03,389 --> 01:03:06,659the state all withoutcentralized intermediaries built107701:03:06,659 --> 01:03:13,409into the impervious browser. Sothey have secure peer to peer107801:03:13,409 --> 01:03:18,299messaging. They have peer topeer web RTC data channels for107901:03:18,299 --> 01:03:22,739audio and video calls, then theyhave the decentralized local108001:03:22,739 --> 01:03:25,799storage is interesting. Andfiles can be encrypted and108101:03:25,799 --> 01:03:28,319stored locally, both the browserdesignated encrypted system108201:03:28,319 --> 01:03:31,679database can be published to ananonymous publicly accessible108301:03:31,739 --> 01:03:36,209decentralized data store IPFSIPFS managed automatically fully108401:03:36,209 --> 01:03:40,049integrated into the underlyingimpervious Damon, files108501:03:40,049 --> 01:03:43,799published IP Fs can beuniversally accessed via IP NS108601:03:44,069 --> 01:03:46,709and persistent link, you know,they have they've they've108701:03:47,279 --> 01:03:52,979connected all of the you know,the API payments for API for108801:03:52,979 --> 01:03:59,399IPFS, hosting, etc. I mean, thisthing is, it's really it's quite108901:03:59,999 --> 01:04:04,169amazing. It's so the whole ideais everything is decentralized.109001:04:04,709 --> 01:04:09,539And we've thrown in. They haveAPI's to the Lightning Network.109101:04:09,659 --> 01:04:13,049So there's no mention how thatworks. I'm sure there's109201:04:13,319 --> 01:04:17,249somewhere someone's doingwallets stuff somewhere. But it109301:04:17,249 --> 01:04:20,519seems like they're really likeit might be a leap forward in109401:04:20,519 --> 01:04:22,079decentralized everything.109501:04:24,900 --> 01:04:27,000Just looking through this couldbe interesting.109601:04:28,019 --> 01:04:31,169You know, especially if it'sbased on, you know, chromium or109701:04:31,169 --> 01:04:34,169whatever, you know, if it's amodern browser, but I bet it is.109801:04:34,769 --> 01:04:37,709Just I just looked at this andlike, well, that's kind of I109901:04:37,709 --> 01:04:40,199mean, that's kind of all thethings we need.110001:04:41,010 --> 01:04:44,250Built in IPFS pinning servicesallow for persistence, all110101:04:44,250 --> 01:04:48,990availability, even when a user'sIPFS node is offline. Man, I110201:04:49,079 --> 01:04:52,109appreciate ya way and verifiedlightning invoices send and110301:04:52,109 --> 01:04:56,099receive lightning keys andpayments. Create pay to play110401:04:56,099 --> 01:04:58,619links, prompting peers tofulfill a key exchange or110501:04:58,619 --> 01:05:02,129lightning invoice invoice. Toview premium content, Port110601:05:02,129 --> 01:05:05,489existing audiences to bolstersubscription content revenue110701:05:05,489 --> 01:05:08,429resiliency well that's amarketing jargon jargon right110801:05:08,429 --> 01:05:12,359there. offer goods and servicesvia linked associate links110901:05:12,359 --> 01:05:15,359associated with well that's likeairline URL. I mean, so they do111001:05:15,359 --> 01:05:21,809have a lot of interest herestore. What was the since? I111101:05:21,809 --> 01:05:25,589don't know, I want I'm kind ofI'm semi excited about this.111201:05:26,699 --> 01:05:31,559Yeah, well, I want to see theslides released in April and not111301:05:31,559 --> 01:05:35,639heard about this decentralizedidentifiers. Di D coms that111401:05:35,639 --> 01:05:38,579there's there's been a fewthings in here that I've never111501:05:38,999 --> 01:05:43,859done. I've never seen thesewords before. Such as, like di D111601:05:43,859 --> 01:05:45,659calm. What is the D O. That's111701:05:45,689 --> 01:05:50,159just decentralized identifiers.So your you can identify111801:05:50,159 --> 01:05:57,569yourself with your key. Forlongest like you're really you111901:05:57,569 --> 01:06:00,239really hemming and hawing onthis one Dave doesn't sound like112001:06:00,239 --> 01:06:05,039you're really like, don'timpress me much. Okay. No,112101:06:05,039 --> 01:06:05,339that's112201:06:05,339 --> 01:06:07,649I'm not saying no, it's not thatit's not impressive. I did I112301:06:07,649 --> 01:06:10,109need. I'm caught off guard aboutthis, because I don't.112401:06:10,650 --> 01:06:16,680I saw was I saw, I saw, Wow, thegoal is to allow I guess, to112501:06:16,680 --> 01:06:22,290allow everyone to publish,blogs, the podcasts, etc.112601:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,070Without hosting companies. Andwith revenue streams built in? I112701:06:26,070 --> 01:06:26,550guess.112801:06:32,429 --> 01:06:36,359I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical.This This sounds like because112901:06:36,359 --> 01:06:41,219impervious.ai is the ones that.Now I'm not trying to say this113001:06:41,219 --> 01:06:43,169is all they do. But I knowthey've done multiple113101:06:43,169 --> 01:06:46,139experiments with pushing thingsthrough the Lightning Network.113201:06:46,379 --> 01:06:48,569Like they're the ones that didthat thing where they delivered113301:06:48,569 --> 01:06:53,579on a podcast, or mp3, throughlight through lightning channel.113401:06:53,609 --> 01:06:53,819Oh, I113501:06:53,820 --> 01:06:56,100didn't know that it happened.That's a horrible thing to think113601:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,010of. That's awful. It's awful.And I kind of look what kind of113701:06:59,010 --> 01:07:02,460channel liquidity do you needfor 100 megabyte file?113801:07:02,909 --> 01:07:06,959I don't know. But it sounds likea horrible thing to do is um, my113901:07:06,959 --> 01:07:08,789first thought is, oh, that'swhat114001:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,120not doesn't seem. It doesn'tseem to be that. Well, we'll114101:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,030see. I mean, I'm okay. I justlove all of these, you know,114201:07:15,030 --> 01:07:19,500self hosting homes, things thatare popping up and we're going114301:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,710with the best will rise to thetop, no doubt.114401:07:23,309 --> 01:07:27,239Do you do any of that? Dan, doyou do anything like ownCloud?114501:07:27,239 --> 01:07:28,379Or any of that jazz?114601:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,330No, no, I'm not really doingthat.114701:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,630Oh, man. I love your cloud. Ilove my next cloud.114801:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,800It's not something you've evergotten into is the is the whole114901:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,480self sort of self hosting115001:07:39,510 --> 01:07:42,270thing. Oh, no. I mean, that'sexactly what I used to do. For115101:07:42,270 --> 01:07:45,960years, I used to run an internethosting company out of my spare115201:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,930bedroom in my apartment. I mean,no matter like you personally115301:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,680No, but I'm saying like I alwaysused to do the personal stuff115401:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,760and have control and do the selfhosting and all of that and I115501:07:56,790 --> 01:08:00,270just kind of got you got get yougot captured you get you You115601:08:00,270 --> 01:08:03,150gave it to the man and gave itto the man I guess I mean, like,115701:08:03,270 --> 01:08:06,810would running. I mean, I have aSynology I could share stuff off115801:08:06,810 --> 01:08:11,280of I guess. You want me to doyou want me to do next cloud? Is115901:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,240that what you're trying to? No,116001:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,640no, I'm just what I'm justwondering how committed you are116101:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,150like if you're on the but youknow, we're on that tip. When116201:08:18,150 --> 01:08:21,090we get when you get an Umbraland you look at that app store,116301:08:21,150 --> 01:08:24,240there's just things in therethat are just groovy little116401:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,780toys, you know, like the nextcloud that sets up the instance116501:08:27,780 --> 01:08:33,060for you. You know, this is Idon't know this, it's piehole.116601:08:33,090 --> 01:08:37,050And you can run it from anydevice. They've got the VPN, the116701:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,620tail scale, there's, it's it'skind of getting there. I'm116801:08:40,620 --> 01:08:42,330feeling this. I'm feeling this.116901:08:42,510 --> 01:08:50,190Yeah, I hear you. Say you sayseriously, go look at I have the117001:08:50,190 --> 01:08:54,180next cloud site open right here.Your career gain control the117101:08:54,180 --> 01:08:56,910self hosted productivityplatform. It keeps you in117201:08:56,910 --> 01:08:58,740control by next cloud. Now.117301:08:58,769 --> 01:09:01,859What we need is we need Dan justto be around us wherever we go.117401:09:01,859 --> 01:09:04,199Dave So you can just sayhallelujah, that's right on.117501:09:04,229 --> 01:09:04,739Aha.117601:09:05,369 --> 01:09:07,469They call it a hype man. Yes,exactly.117701:09:07,469 --> 01:09:10,439Yes, we are hype man. You can dothat. You're good at that. And117801:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,839then we'll do I'll do it for youthat free I'll do it for you. No117901:09:12,839 --> 01:09:15,149problem. Should we thank somepeople Dave.118001:09:15,750 --> 01:09:20,040Oh, yeah, sure. You get time tostick around while we'd love to118101:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,570do that. Oh, awesome.118201:09:21,750 --> 01:09:26,970So this is a value for value.Project as we would say in118301:09:26,970 --> 01:09:31,980Canada. We talk to subgradientroad it's a great project pro J118401:09:32,100 --> 01:09:35,220to project now I don't do ajokes anymore after that truck.118501:09:35,730 --> 01:09:40,650That trucker thing I got respectfor him. Like I love it. I know118601:09:40,650 --> 01:09:44,940but I'm showing even I'm givingthem more love. Okay, but I will118701:09:44,940 --> 01:09:49,950I will mess with project to thisproject. Podcasting. 2.0 is118801:09:49,980 --> 01:09:53,850completely value for value,which means only if you think118901:09:53,850 --> 01:09:56,970you get any value out of it.Then you need to put some back119001:09:56,970 --> 01:09:59,910in that can be with one of thethree T's time talent treasure119101:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,730We need treasure to keep themachines spinning, keep119201:10:02,730 --> 01:10:06,690everything worrying, worrying.We worry enough but to worrying119301:10:06,690 --> 01:10:10,650with an eye. And you can do thatby going to podcast index.org.119401:10:10,650 --> 01:10:13,260There's a link at the bottom BigRed donate button, you can hit119501:10:13,260 --> 01:10:17,670that. And is the QR code forBitcoin on chain up there yet?119601:10:18,150 --> 01:10:21,570Yeah, on the site. Yeah, that'son there that tally coin. Oh,119701:10:21,570 --> 01:10:24,690the tally coin. Yeah, perfect.Or you can get a modern podcast119801:10:24,690 --> 01:10:27,540app, but new podcast apps calmand boost to your heart's119901:10:27,540 --> 01:10:31,260content, send a message. We lovereading them as well. And it's120001:10:31,260 --> 01:10:33,360also just a great way tocontinuously support the120101:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,200Podcast, the podcast app thatyou're using, because we have120201:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,940the distributed digital royaltysystem of the value block120301:10:41,940 --> 01:10:45,270splits. And you also helppodcasts index with that, and we120401:10:45,300 --> 01:10:47,700highly appreciate it. So we'regonna thank some of these people120501:10:47,700 --> 01:10:48,000now.120601:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,930Yeah, well, this, this show ispretty much owned by Dred Scott.120701:10:51,930 --> 01:10:55,530I'm going to tell you that upfront. Oh, all our big baller.120801:10:55,860 --> 01:10:58,650He's hiding from his wife in thecloset and sending out and just120901:10:58,650 --> 01:10:59,730giving all their money away.121001:11:01,170 --> 01:11:05,100He did a round man he did aroundhe did. He did a big ball around121101:11:05,100 --> 01:11:07,740Moe facts, no agenda. And nowtell us121201:11:08,460 --> 01:11:13,260if he if if Dan had at alightning enabled podcast, he121301:11:13,260 --> 01:11:15,600would have been in there too,but Dred Scott would have thrown121401:11:15,600 --> 01:11:21,810stats at him. That's right.That's right. Dred Scott $345.67121501:11:21,810 --> 01:11:22,530through PayPal121601:11:22,620 --> 01:11:29,550Bala shot 20 blades on theImpala Whoa, Dread thank you121701:11:29,550 --> 01:11:35,100that I was talking about drabagain last night with Tina. She121801:11:35,100 --> 01:11:40,680says cuz I said drip donated$345.67 to no agenda. And and he121901:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,950did it for podcasting. 2.0 andfor mo faxes. What does this guy122001:11:43,950 --> 01:11:48,060do? I said what was she shedoesn't listen she listens to122101:11:48,090 --> 01:11:51,300almost everything I do this oneshe doesn't listen to I said122201:11:51,300 --> 01:11:54,240Don't you know that he's theBruce Wayne of podcasting 2.0122301:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,120He's an heir to a billiondollars he has a Batcave the122401:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,020whole thing any any any in hiscave. He does chapters to help122501:12:01,020 --> 01:12:04,800people and then he's giving awayhis fortune bit by bit. Satoshi122601:12:04,800 --> 01:12:11,820by Satoshi. She says whatreally? Yeah, are the122701:12:11,850 --> 01:12:14,850bill The Bill Gates, they giveall your stuff away? Yeah, yeah.122801:12:14,850 --> 01:12:15,030The122901:12:15,030 --> 01:12:18,570war the Warren Buffett. WarrenBuffett give all your money123001:12:18,570 --> 01:12:21,720away. Thank you so much. Dr.This is so meaningful. Really123101:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,250appreciate you spin on tear man.Then don't don't kill yourself123201:12:26,250 --> 01:12:28,560on anything. It's just a horse.Like, Listen, I I get the123301:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,740chapters from mo facts under theother from no agenda tomorrow.123401:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,600It's like dude, anytime123501:12:33,630 --> 01:12:35,190it's cool. It's cool. Yeah,123601:12:35,219 --> 01:12:37,469any time we we understand.123701:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,640Get a message from some time. Mymy child's in the hospital for123801:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,180three minutes.123901:12:42,810 --> 01:12:46,470My house blew up my dog died.But I got the chapters ready. I124001:12:46,470 --> 01:12:48,240did it while in the ambulance.124101:12:49,170 --> 01:12:54,240Yes. drab says can I get abirthday shout out as my124201:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,720birthday is today. March thefourth? Yes. Yes. Well,124301:12:57,750 --> 01:13:01,800you know what? He needs what heneeds. He needs a biscuit for124401:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,930his birthday. That's what heneeds. They always124501:13:03,930 --> 01:13:05,760give me a biscuit on mybirthday.124601:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,310Happy birthday. Happy birthdaybrother.124701:13:09,030 --> 01:13:12,510March 4, the only day of theyear that gives a command a124801:13:13,050 --> 01:13:15,570march for exact Keep up thegreat124901:13:15,570 --> 01:13:17,640work in Drib in J and K.125001:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,940Thank you drive. That's reallyappreciated, man.125101:13:22,980 --> 01:13:25,110Let's see. And he gets the125201:13:25,110 --> 01:13:29,580SATs too. He gets 5% split on onall of my shows on the SATs. I125301:13:29,580 --> 01:13:32,820doubt I doubt he's receiving asmuch as he's putting in125401:13:35,310 --> 01:13:39,810Oh, now this is an interestingone. So we got this is $100 Pay125501:13:39,810 --> 01:13:43,680Pal through from cauldronentertainment. Oh cold cold125601:13:43,710 --> 01:13:48,570cauldron. This is now this is toyou says it would see my booster125701:13:48,570 --> 01:13:51,660grams advertising my intimacyand relationship coaching125801:13:51,690 --> 01:13:55,590aggravated Adam with his commentthat I am making the rounds.125901:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,360Where you aggravated aggravatedthat's when comics for Blogger126001:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,780does oh this. I'm not aggravatedby that at all.126101:14:04,290 --> 01:14:06,780No, not making the rounds meansyou're this is126201:14:06,989 --> 01:14:11,309this is the second this is thesex therapy a couple. Yeah, no,126301:14:11,339 --> 01:14:12,299no, this is126401:14:12,570 --> 01:14:14,250okay man knows these guys.126501:14:15,300 --> 01:14:16,110Let me just126601:14:16,470 --> 01:14:18,750let me just say tremendousinterest what126701:14:18,750 --> 01:14:22,860I'm it's it's Shocking. Shockinghow much interest there is for126801:14:22,860 --> 01:14:26,220this sector. What I like aboutit is you're one of the first126901:14:26,220 --> 01:14:30,420people to grasp the fullpotential of value for value.127001:14:30,690 --> 01:14:33,390You're sending us a cutemessage. We're laughing about127101:14:33,390 --> 01:14:36,630it. People are hearing about theservice you provide. And you're127201:14:36,630 --> 01:14:40,710supporting the show. We love it.No, no, no, I'm not. No, I'm not127301:14:40,710 --> 01:14:43,170at all annoyed. I'm sorry thatyou guys had impression.127401:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,320So here's a donation thathopefully shows my appreciation127501:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,980for all involved in podcasting.2.0 podcasting gave me purpose127601:14:50,010 --> 01:14:53,430after a job loss and saved mylife from suicide. As I127701:14:53,430 --> 01:14:56,520explained on Dave Jackson'sSchool of podcasting episode,127801:14:56,910 --> 01:15:00,300podcasting gives a listener areason to live. Wow, thanks To127901:15:00,300 --> 01:15:02,670all involved for the hard workWow, that128001:15:02,670 --> 01:15:04,380is whatever what episode isthat?128101:15:04,860 --> 01:15:09,480It's called podcasting gives alistener a reason to live.128201:15:09,809 --> 01:15:12,569Crikey. Well Nice.128301:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,490Yeah, I mean,128401:15:14,489 --> 01:15:18,599I like hearing that another lifesaved or created Dave Jones.128501:15:19,079 --> 01:15:19,799It's also another128601:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,040money making tip where we canjust be really ambiguous about128701:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,080our thoughts about things andpeople have to give us more128801:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,760money in order to explain theproblem.128901:15:26,910 --> 01:15:29,490I love how you do that you arethinking man129001:15:31,260 --> 01:15:36,450thank you for that $100 cauldronentertainment $50 from Amy129101:15:36,450 --> 01:15:40,140Harmon, and there's no note fromAmy but thank you Amy. Thank you129201:15:40,140 --> 01:15:45,630Amy. That's it. That's Pay Palso we got some boosts Mr.129301:15:45,630 --> 01:15:45,930Graham's129401:15:45,960 --> 01:15:54,390yay. Hold on Yeah, ready toboost everybody booster Graham's129501:15:54,390 --> 01:15:56,610bee bee bee hanging? What are we129601:15:57,330 --> 01:16:02,460Spencer 33,369 says throughfountain and he says thank you129701:16:02,460 --> 01:16:04,740for helping us make podcastinghistory shout out to rare129801:16:04,740 --> 01:16:08,100encounter with April Kirby andcold acid who also implemented129901:16:08,100 --> 01:16:10,500Live This Week go podcast. Yeah,I130001:16:10,500 --> 01:16:11,490want to do live.130101:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,040Let's do it. Can we do it nextweek?130201:16:14,070 --> 01:16:17,640Yeah. Next week. I'll be jackedand ready next Friday going130301:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,300live.130401:16:18,750 --> 01:16:20,190Alright, we'll do it. We'll doit live.130501:16:20,190 --> 01:16:22,260All right. Well, I'm excitednow.130601:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,150Sir, Doug, give us 4400 sets andhe says I'm boosting while130701:16:27,150 --> 01:16:34,260driving. Yeah, we pull overpullover. Hard hats in this row130801:16:34,260 --> 01:16:38,430of ducks. 20 to 22 and he saysnow we know where the AMA cast130901:16:38,430 --> 01:16:41,640comes from. I think that was alot there's less131001:16:44,370 --> 01:16:45,870Rubber Ducks always appreciated.131101:16:48,390 --> 01:16:52,680Dan you do not harvest people'semail addresses from their RSS131201:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,810feeds and spam them to come tofireside D.131301:16:55,230 --> 01:16:59,190No, but my competitors do that.They definitely do that I've131401:16:59,190 --> 01:17:04,410heard yet. I get reports of itall the time on Twitter and, and131501:17:04,410 --> 01:17:09,420people forward me stuff all thetime. You'd be absolutely131601:17:09,420 --> 01:17:12,990shocked and I I don't get that.I feel like that's something131701:17:12,990 --> 01:17:15,810that you just shouldn't do. Youjust shouldn't do that.131801:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,430We call it slimy.131901:17:17,670 --> 01:17:21,090Yeah, just like it's more thanone more than one company that132001:17:21,090 --> 01:17:21,720does that.132101:17:22,410 --> 01:17:25,710It's mainly one company. Butthere are there is a second one132201:17:25,710 --> 01:17:27,870but it's mainly the one. Theynot gonna132301:17:27,900 --> 01:17:31,950know because we all know thishas been a news story. This was132401:17:31,980 --> 01:17:36,030I got it on. What's the thingcalled?132501:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,510I can't remember which companyit was. No, I132601:17:39,510 --> 01:17:45,180got it on spooler I heard it onspooler had to go look it up132701:17:45,180 --> 01:17:49,830what the hell was sparklerscooler.132801:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,730Harv has in this 12,222 sets.And he says running with132901:17:53,730 --> 01:18:00,720scissors. Yeah, we love that iswhat we do here. Martin from hot133001:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,050friend gave us 10,000 SATs andhe says history is being written133101:18:04,050 --> 01:18:06,780first pot friend cross appcomment just happened?133201:18:06,810 --> 01:18:08,100Oh, yeah.133301:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,450When did this happen? This wasright around the show. Last133401:18:12,450 --> 01:18:17,910week. Our show post was comingup on our shows. Yeah, yes.133501:18:17,910 --> 01:18:18,180That's right.133601:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,009I'm excited. Another first.133701:18:20,370 --> 01:18:25,530Yep, that's it. He's integratingmini pub. And I think Steven D133801:18:25,530 --> 01:18:30,750is integrating mini pub as well.We've got I'm celebrating John's133901:18:30,750 --> 01:18:33,000for lunch next week. So we'regonna talk all134001:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,870Spurlock this guy's anothermysterious dude or like him.134101:18:38,250 --> 01:18:40,590What's he been up to? What's hegoing to come on? Talk about134201:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,490cross cross on the comments.Yeah. Yeah. Know about cross app134301:18:44,490 --> 01:18:45,690comments, Dan.134401:18:46,020 --> 01:18:49,890I mean, I only don't look for alevel. No, no, no, no. Just say134501:18:49,890 --> 01:18:50,130no.134601:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,900So it's all the spec is allusing activity pub.134701:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,140Well, you guys talked about atthe end of the year last Oh,134801:18:58,140 --> 01:18:58,500right.134901:18:58,530 --> 01:19:01,170This is one of the first thingswe talked about. And we were we135001:19:01,170 --> 01:19:03,690were not ready as a group yet totackle it. But we're, we're in135101:19:03,690 --> 01:19:04,650the air now. I think.135201:19:05,250 --> 01:19:08,970Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it willbe in Phase Five of the135301:19:08,970 --> 01:19:12,600namespace, the Roodman, therudimentary tags will be in135401:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,070there and then there'll be a bitit's fairly the landscape for135501:19:17,070 --> 01:19:20,370how to do this has gotten a lotmore clear over the last135601:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,470probably three to four weeks.135701:19:23,130 --> 01:19:26,640But but we're seeing it work,man. It's so cool. In one app,135801:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,510you post a comment, boom, it'sin all the others. And you can135901:19:30,510 --> 01:19:33,630choose your platform so I usethe mastodon server, you can136001:19:33,630 --> 01:19:36,180reply there. I mean, the wholething is mine. You know what I'm136101:19:36,180 --> 01:19:38,160shocked at the interest in thisthing.136201:19:38,310 --> 01:19:42,420Yes. Interest is shocked andthen shot mortals, mere mortals136301:19:42,420 --> 01:19:46,590podcast, Karen down, gave us aroad ducks 2222 He said,136401:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,010actually had a chat with apremature duck.136501:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,270Sorry. Premature duck.136601:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,530Oh my god. Actually had a chatwith Brian on the latest mere136701:19:58,530 --> 01:20:01,080mortals conversations As hementioned about getting some136801:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,650flack from the Bitcoinmaximalists sad to hear as he's136901:20:04,650 --> 01:20:07,800doing great work with POD payingHe sure is. Yeah also talked137001:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,920about decentralization thegenesis of hive and his crypto137101:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,290class action lawsuit here inAustralia if anyone is137201:20:13,290 --> 01:20:14,130interested quackquack137301:20:16,260 --> 01:20:21,450Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian,Brian, Brian, dude, don't pick137401:20:21,450 --> 01:20:22,080fights.137501:20:23,430 --> 01:20:27,060Fights there's more of them thanthere are views so just yeah,137601:20:27,090 --> 01:20:30,660yes. We understand what you'resaying, bro. We do.137701:20:31,410 --> 01:20:35,430Brian of London 19 148 SASbecause the devil he says the137801:20:35,490 --> 01:20:39,240Episode This episode is made forme. Thank you much. I'm also137901:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,730seeing increased failedtransactions, especially to mine138001:20:41,730 --> 01:20:44,550and Phoenix. I'm working hard tofix this. No breeze and the138101:20:44,550 --> 01:20:46,860split. Well, yeah,138201:20:46,860 --> 01:20:49,080I think we have reason the splitand what do you mean breezing138301:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,560the split ROI, like ROI? What iswhat is he saying138401:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,020from last episode? Didn't we putROI split and you138501:20:55,050 --> 01:20:59,160know, he refused. He refused.Yeah. I said, Give me your138601:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,370lightning node. He said No, putgive it towards podcasting. 2.0.138701:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,760I said, Yeah, but I want you tosee the joy of these Satoshis138801:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,700coming and he says, Dude, I seethat all day on the breeze node.138901:21:09,150 --> 01:21:10,140Okay, fair point.139001:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,190He said, he said I'm Israeli. Idon't need joy. I live on the139101:21:14,220 --> 01:21:15,210hour of the universe.139201:21:16,200 --> 01:21:17,100Precisely.139301:21:18,720 --> 01:21:24,270Okay, so up. Here we go. Isthis? Yeah, there's yet here. It139401:21:24,270 --> 01:21:27,210is anonymous, but it's notreally anonymous because it came139501:21:27,210 --> 01:21:33,240through breeze and it's Roy andhe sent us 123,456 sets.139601:21:33,270 --> 01:21:38,670Oh, let me see. Let me go ahead.139701:21:38,970 --> 01:21:41,550It's a breeze love for podcastindex from Roy.139801:21:41,670 --> 01:21:47,130Oh, man. Give me a little bit oflove back. Thank you, Roy. You139901:21:47,130 --> 01:21:49,260know, I shamed him into that.That was pretty cool. That140001:21:49,260 --> 01:21:52,680works. Like hey, man. None ofthe Bitcoin has ever donated.140101:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,840All they do is bitches breadBrian of London.140201:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,670And he was like, okay, okay.140301:21:58,500 --> 01:22:01,530Thank you, Roy. Thank you. So hebought a mic. We got to test it.140401:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,520Oh, cool. He's he's like, whatcan you recommend? I said, Well,140501:22:05,520 --> 01:22:11,550I would recommend the was it theSM seven? The the the USB140601:22:11,550 --> 01:22:14,880version? What does that Dan? Isthat the M seven? Yeah, the M140701:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,910seven. Yeah, the M service or hesays that those are badass. And140801:22:17,910 --> 01:22:20,640he's like, You got anythingcheaper? So hey, man, you asked140901:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,750for the podcast on pod fatherrecommendation. He's like I got141001:22:24,750 --> 01:22:28,110a yeti blues. Okay, you're readyfor you to define?141101:22:29,580 --> 01:22:31,860What What mic Are you on rightnow? Danny sound good.141201:22:32,250 --> 01:22:37,530I am on the Telefunken M whichguys? Is this the mid shoe? I141301:22:37,530 --> 01:22:39,210think? Yeah, it's um,141401:22:39,420 --> 01:22:42,030wait a minute. What? Telefunkenwhat?141501:22:42,750 --> 01:22:48,570Avallon tell you the wrongthing. Telefunken M 82. Yeah,141601:22:48,570 --> 01:22:51,840that's that was right. It's, um,it's really great. Mike, I've141701:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,540been on this thing for years.And this came from a141801:22:54,540 --> 01:22:58,110recommendation one of mylisteners who went to went to141901:22:58,110 --> 01:23:02,070some audio show and Telefunkenwas there and he contact he's142001:23:02,070 --> 01:23:05,460like a super like super nerdaudio engineer. He knows142101:23:05,460 --> 01:23:08,880everything. And he, he's like 10your your voice would sound142201:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,280really good through this mic.And I said really? And he's142301:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,980like, better than better thanthe Shure SM seven way better142401:23:13,980 --> 01:23:16,650than the Heil PR 40 You got toget this you got to get it and142501:23:16,650 --> 01:23:19,620I'm like, You know what, I'llorder it and if it's wrong, I'll142601:23:19,620 --> 01:23:22,620just you know, send it back andit was great and I loved it and142701:23:22,620 --> 01:23:24,810I've been using it ever since Ithink I'm going to try this one142801:23:24,810 --> 01:23:28,500out. Is a great mic. You wouldsound amazing through this does142901:23:28,500 --> 01:23:29,250it come with143001:23:29,250 --> 01:23:32,580a boom attachment? Or do youhave to have a an extra bit143101:23:32,580 --> 01:23:33,150package143201:23:33,150 --> 01:23:36,750that I got came with the boomand the boom attachment and143301:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,150everything that you need and itactually came with two it comes143401:23:39,150 --> 01:23:41,700with a shock mount and it alsocomes with just the little143501:23:41,700 --> 01:23:45,390attachment and I think there'sdifferent packages you can get143601:23:45,390 --> 01:23:48,360depending on what you want likeit's up to you143701:23:48,450 --> 01:23:51,660I've always liked Telefunkenmicrophones I have not owned one143801:23:51,660 --> 01:23:53,640myself have used them many times143901:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,480the build on it is amazing likeit's it looks good that's144001:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,640so you got to get the thebroadcast package with the cable144101:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,850or with comes with cable, shockmount and boom arm.144201:24:06,510 --> 01:24:10,110You don't want us to just kickdrum mic. Yeah,144301:24:10,110 --> 01:24:12,780that's yeah, just I mean, mostof the mics that we use in144401:24:12,780 --> 01:24:15,540podcasting are kick drum mics,right I mean, wouldn't you say144501:24:15,540 --> 01:24:18,420the rd 20 and the PR 40? Weren'tthey kick drum144601:24:18,450 --> 01:24:21,210mics? Yes. I think they wereoriginally Yeah.144701:24:22,230 --> 01:24:26,430But you can get the M 782microphone mount ma two t f one144801:24:26,430 --> 01:24:30,150one attachment if you're if youdon't like the shock mount I'm144901:24:30,150 --> 01:24:32,040just looking at their websiteright now but it's145001:24:32,070 --> 01:24:34,980do you need to shock mount is itreal so I guess it's probably145101:24:34,980 --> 01:24:35,640sensitive145201:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,330is sensitive enough? I tried itwithout it and it seemed to pick145301:24:39,330 --> 01:24:39,540up I145401:24:39,540 --> 01:24:42,600just like guy just like grabbingmy mic, you know, like a big145501:24:42,600 --> 01:24:43,560phallic symbol.145601:24:43,860 --> 01:24:44,670Yeah, of course.145701:24:44,700 --> 01:24:47,580I mean, of course. Yeah, ofcourse. We know.145801:24:49,410 --> 01:24:51,600That doesn't have that fantasyguess.145901:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,240Hmm. This is interesting.146001:24:54,239 --> 01:24:56,669I'm not buy this just just tohave it in here. Look at146101:24:56,670 --> 01:25:00,720it. Mike. So cool. And it's allblack, black. all the time.146201:25:00,720 --> 01:25:01,170Yeah.146301:25:01,470 --> 01:25:05,070Okay. But I like the sound ofit. I agree with Dave You sound146401:25:05,070 --> 01:25:08,490really good is a real real goodson. No, it's the mic man. Don't146501:25:08,490 --> 01:25:16,680take credit. It sounds reallynice Come on, Dan. You should146601:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,630have been working with me whenyou had the chance.146701:25:18,780 --> 01:25:20,820Oh my god, you can bring this upevery day.146801:25:20,820 --> 01:25:24,450Of course I do. I live I didn't.146901:25:24,450 --> 01:25:28,140I didn't see the vision and nowI regret I told you it's the one147001:25:28,140 --> 01:25:29,430thing I regret in my life.147101:25:30,540 --> 01:25:33,270I'm not even kidding. Let'scontinue with our booster grams147201:25:33,270 --> 01:25:33,480day147301:25:33,540 --> 01:25:39,030John's BRT gave us 49,000 SATswas so nice whopping Adams and147401:25:39,030 --> 01:25:40,560splicing pew pew.147501:25:43,020 --> 01:25:45,630Nice. Excellent.147601:25:46,470 --> 01:25:50,310Cast, peatland gave us 3300 setsand he says I'm trying to get147701:25:50,310 --> 01:25:53,760the podcast index channel inbalance for weeks now I did the147801:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,420rebalance swap loop all of themfail. We'll try to we'll try147901:25:57,420 --> 01:25:59,760with ZERO FEES one of these daysthanks for the show.148001:26:00,270 --> 01:26:04,980Yeah, on that, you know, I amexperimenting with with fees for148101:26:04,980 --> 01:26:08,790our liquidity provision. And sofar, it seems like they're148201:26:08,790 --> 01:26:13,500having a zero base fee. So sofor the micro payments seems to148301:26:13,500 --> 01:26:16,980be really good. And it has mostdefinitely, with a with a148401:26:16,980 --> 01:26:23,460significantly higher per amountfee has stopped a lot of the148501:26:23,730 --> 01:26:27,870routing that was clear was justblowing out our channels. So but148601:26:27,870 --> 01:26:31,380it does mean that if you have sofor instance, Todd, with your148701:26:31,380 --> 01:26:36,150node, you know, we're anexpensive place to be if you148801:26:36,150 --> 01:26:39,600want to get all your paymentsthrough us. So the whole idea148901:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,290is, you know, open up morechannels, work with other people149001:26:43,290 --> 01:26:45,990expand and we need that thenetwork needs it. Everybody149101:26:45,990 --> 01:26:49,170needs it, and we need it so thatwe can make good use of our149201:26:49,170 --> 01:26:49,860liquidity.149301:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,400Yeah, and if all else fails inyour rebalancing, just just drop149401:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,990the channel and open a new one.I mean, like149501:26:55,020 --> 01:26:57,660those Yes, that's another way todo it. It's expensive, but it's149601:26:57,660 --> 01:26:59,070definitely wait for the phase tobe149701:26:59,069 --> 01:27:01,259down. Yeah, wait for the min putmempool to be a little bit empty149801:27:01,259 --> 01:27:08,039and try new. Primitive one, gaveus 6669 SATs through fountain149901:27:08,039 --> 01:27:10,829and he says I came acrosssubmarine swaps recently without150001:27:10,829 --> 01:27:13,769foreknowledge which put me off abit, but I feel a lot better150101:27:13,769 --> 01:27:15,719about the whole thing andlearned a bunch about breeze150201:27:15,719 --> 01:27:18,269making me feel better for havingrecommended it to some people.150301:27:18,780 --> 01:27:22,830I had a submarine swapexperience myself actually. Did150401:27:22,830 --> 01:27:26,340you with the breeze app, whichwas kind of fun. That was not150501:27:26,340 --> 01:27:32,280fun. But how it ultimatelyworked. I was sending I was150601:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,290sending money to my sister inItaly to the breeze app on chain150701:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,2801100 bucks or something. We'rerenting an Airbnb for my dad's150801:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,720Intermot and so I sent her Isent it to her actually to her150901:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,060husband because he said like youknow, I'll just pay for it and151001:27:48,060 --> 01:27:50,940then this end as our sound Oh,he wants to have some bitcoins151101:27:50,940 --> 01:27:55,860to send it to him. And I'd senta test to the to the bitcoin151201:27:55,860 --> 01:27:57,990address you know, like 10 bucksjust to make sure it got there.151301:27:58,020 --> 01:28:02,220Okay, everything's fine. Andthen I sent the remaining money151401:28:02,220 --> 01:28:06,990to the same bitcoin address,which typically you can do even151501:28:06,990 --> 01:28:10,020though and I didn't listen to mysister because she said are you151601:28:10,020 --> 01:28:12,870supposed to do that use the sameone twice and like I shut up151701:28:12,870 --> 01:28:15,990you're not a Bitcoin er, I knowwhat I'm doing. But it's but151801:28:15,990 --> 01:28:18,960what the way breeze does it isit's a submarine swap. So it151901:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,180comes into the breeze wallet inenlightening and you can I think152001:28:24,180 --> 01:28:26,880probably just stopped doublespend or some other accounting152101:28:26,880 --> 01:28:32,040issue you can't reuse thatinvoice and so I sent this and152201:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,130what had the way they do it isthen after 244 blocks they'll152301:28:35,130 --> 01:28:38,190refund the money you can choosewhere you want to refund it to152401:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,450which is on one hand cool thoughyou can't use the app for that152501:28:42,480 --> 01:28:46,590for that amount of time. Butwhile all this took place we had152601:28:46,590 --> 01:28:50,190the war kick up and then the themempool just went to like you152701:28:50,190 --> 01:28:53,910know oh crap when he sets for Vbite and this this thing was152801:28:53,910 --> 01:28:57,210just hung in there and I'mtalking to Royce do this is such152901:28:57,210 --> 01:29:00,210a shit experience. I can'tbelieve my sister my brother in153001:29:00,210 --> 01:29:02,310law did like Adams nuts withthis Bitcoin153101:29:03,780 --> 01:29:06,780but it's the worst possible demo153201:29:07,139 --> 01:29:09,959right but it worked out and thenthey got on lightning and they153301:29:09,959 --> 01:29:12,089transferred it back and forth.They were really delighted with153401:29:12,089 --> 01:29:14,789that but most importantly theywere delighted because have gone153501:29:14,789 --> 01:29:18,749up 10% Since I sent it to themlike we didn't mind waiting on153601:29:18,749 --> 01:29:22,049you you fool. And today rightaway I made sure that that got153701:29:22,049 --> 01:29:25,649stricken right off. There you goboom, you're done. No, no profit153801:29:25,649 --> 01:29:26,519for you today.153901:29:28,050 --> 01:29:32,010Dave Jackson says 2400 sets andhe says emptying my wallet for154001:29:32,010 --> 01:29:35,430February before filling it upfor March go bug Gaston yo yo154101:29:37,740 --> 01:29:42,960How you doing? Oh, another row.What did you must have really154201:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,720shamed Roy because he sent usanother 123,000154301:29:46,859 --> 01:29:48,119Holy crap.154401:29:50,010 --> 01:29:56,460He says for my boy. He says fromRoy with love, also the name of154501:29:56,460 --> 01:29:57,150a famous movie154601:30:00,359 --> 01:30:03,959Sure, Roy. Yeah. Thanks, Roy.Really appreciate it.154701:30:05,160 --> 01:30:10,86022 To 22 Big humongous row ofdogs and he says, this is David154801:30:10,860 --> 01:30:14,700Leary says to have to do it havea one of two154901:30:15,630 --> 01:30:17,340to see I wanted to give him alittle155001:30:21,390 --> 01:30:28,020Oh, I see he's he says what isremove? Remove podcast ID155101:30:28,050 --> 01:30:32,1902062903 And keep podcast ID9304 90 Okay, this is tech155201:30:32,190 --> 01:30:32,550support,155301:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,820tech support. We love techsupport this paid for. That's155401:30:35,820 --> 01:30:38,400right. We'll take care of thatright away, sir. No problem. We155501:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,540love you as a customer.155601:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,820Putting it to the side. I willtake care of that after the155701:30:43,890 --> 01:30:52,830drip, drip Scott. He's back.What 345,678 says Holy crap155801:30:52,830 --> 01:30:56,160boost boost boost. Nice, man.Thanks for155901:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,150cast Matic.156001:30:57,270 --> 01:30:58,470Oh my goodness.156101:30:58,740 --> 01:31:01,650He says great show last week, Ilearned a lot but it was still a156201:31:01,650 --> 01:31:04,650bit over my head. And that'sokay, as I'm still new to this156301:31:04,650 --> 01:31:07,140crypto stuff. I'm stillstruggling to understand how to156401:31:07,140 --> 01:31:10,620get more liquidity into my node.Can you break it down some some156501:31:10,620 --> 01:31:14,220more for us slow people. I lovethe show drip. Now. If you're156601:31:14,220 --> 01:31:17,010trying to figure out how to getmore liquidity into your note,156701:31:17,130 --> 01:31:20,760this is not how you do a drip.This is sending liquidity out of156801:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,150your nose. Yeah, yes, exactly.This is the wrong strategy.156901:31:24,180 --> 01:31:28,470You're going the wrong way. Ican look into that and help you157001:31:28,470 --> 01:31:32,520out drive let me I'll look intoyour let me check your node.157101:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,020This is a Dan you see you'reseeing how this how this is157201:31:37,020 --> 01:31:37,650done. I mean this157301:31:38,939 --> 01:31:41,399this is a masterclass for me.When you157401:31:41,399 --> 01:31:45,239learn you this would be perfectfor a Dan Benjamin show. Yeah,157501:31:45,299 --> 01:31:51,989the corner 1000 SATs fromanonymous and it just says I157601:31:51,989 --> 01:31:52,709love breeze157701:31:52,950 --> 01:31:56,220go well we love you. Boost don'twe? Oh157801:31:56,340 --> 01:32:02,190yeah. Are no sin 33 33/3 timeslucky happy three three boost.157901:32:02,340 --> 01:32:07,380Yo are no has been sending somepull requests for helipads. Oh158001:32:07,380 --> 01:32:10,440cool. Yeah. Yeah. He's been he'sbeen doing a lot of work on that158101:32:10,470 --> 01:32:15,030nice Fun Fact Friday with Lilaand Davidson. This 8050 as as it158201:32:15,030 --> 01:32:18,150says just ordered parts for ourUmbral if you want to learn158301:32:18,150 --> 01:32:20,940about artificial intelligence,you're invited to listen to AI158401:32:20,970 --> 01:32:21,480cooking.158501:32:21,510 --> 01:32:26,070Wait a minute, wait a minute.What is going on here? What is158601:32:26,070 --> 01:32:33,240happening here so we have wehave Fun Fact Friday, donating158701:32:33,810 --> 01:32:36,120now I know that they're puttingtogether parts for their Umbral158801:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,510cut so i'll post about that. Andthen they're promoting comic158901:32:39,510 --> 01:32:42,720strip bloggers AI cooking thisis very interesting.159001:32:44,910 --> 01:32:47,430Um, I don't understand I'mconfused159101:32:47,430 --> 01:32:50,880like in my brain. I'm confusedbut I like it. I like it.159201:32:53,670 --> 01:32:57,240See cash payments and is 33cents he says okay, ZERO FEES159301:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,910did the trick. I like to followup159401:33:01,590 --> 01:33:03,900a little boost the droopy boostwe lose159501:33:05,250 --> 01:33:09,1201000 SATs from an anonymous userand you just as boost recovered159601:33:09,120 --> 01:33:09,900Podcast.159701:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,860I'm very nice. I159801:33:12,689 --> 01:33:15,509don't know what that means. Butwe'll take that. Yeah, what's159901:33:16,319 --> 01:33:20,069Spencer send us another one. Oh,this this is just a source like160001:33:20,069 --> 01:33:25,079a double. This is a 33 369 or50. That's like a double from160101:33:25,079 --> 01:33:25,679his earlier was160201:33:25,680 --> 01:33:26,790beautiful. Thank you.160301:33:26,819 --> 01:33:31,709Thank you very much. David Mitasand a 3400 cent birthday boost160401:33:31,709 --> 01:33:32,699for Dred Scott.160501:33:34,410 --> 01:33:39,000We should probably hit him withanother biscuit for his160601:33:39,000 --> 01:33:39,420birthday.160701:33:39,450 --> 01:33:43,020They always give me a biscuit onmy birthday. Okay, here's160801:33:43,260 --> 01:33:52,8901111 11,101 11,111 says and thisis the one of two so this is the160901:33:52,890 --> 01:33:55,320first half of the other one saysPlease remove the fraudulent161001:33:55,350 --> 01:33:56,820anchor copy of my podcast.161101:33:57,059 --> 01:34:05,069There you go. Wow. It's techsupport in two parts. Yeah. Very161201:34:05,069 --> 01:34:05,459good.161301:34:06,120 --> 01:34:11,040Monthly command line boost fromMike Nolan. Or no Newman, Mike161401:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,730Newman. always mispronounce it.Oh, he sent a humongous rush161501:34:14,730 --> 01:34:19,650boost 21 112 Three the commandline says monthly command line161601:34:19,650 --> 01:34:22,590boost Adam great interview onGlenn Beck podcast totally on161701:34:22,590 --> 01:34:24,180message go podcasting.161801:34:24,240 --> 01:34:30,810No thank you we don't havemarketing meetings we just had161901:34:30,810 --> 01:34:34,170people boost and say you did agood job man is fine or like162001:34:34,170 --> 01:34:36,480dude, you should have hit thatmore you know people it's this162101:34:36,480 --> 01:34:38,280is our this is our messagingsystem now.162201:34:39,510 --> 01:34:43,500We get to lift we get to she'sdoes drink 5551 things out and162301:34:43,500 --> 01:34:46,770then he says reply to the lastepisode. Dave is the number one162401:34:46,770 --> 01:34:50,730booster in SATs not an amount oftimes boosted okay.162501:34:50,789 --> 01:34:55,379Oh well who's number one andamount of times boosted? Oh no.162601:34:56,009 --> 01:35:01,079I feel like I feel like I'm aI'm a heel Yeah, I'm not keeping162701:35:01,079 --> 01:35:04,409up my booster quota. My boat andmy boat. I162801:35:04,410 --> 01:35:06,360mean, Dan, maybe Dan's a secretbooster.162901:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,370It's me, isn't he?163001:35:08,670 --> 01:35:16,530Yeah, Dan's actually drips gotall of our chat. No. Oh, the163101:35:16,530 --> 01:35:17,190delimiter163201:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,089blogger there he is ladies andgentlemen. What did he What did163301:35:21,089 --> 01:35:21,839he do for us?163401:35:22,290 --> 01:35:24,27020,033 sets163501:35:24,300 --> 01:35:25,320nice thank you.163601:35:25,350 --> 01:35:28,650He says howdy Dave and Adamthrough pod friend this one time163701:35:28,650 --> 01:35:31,920different message announcementfrom the country of Poland to163801:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,730look for Ukrainian refugees. Youwill be admitted unconditionally163901:35:35,730 --> 01:35:39,270to Poland including pets. Justgo to Polish border crossings.164001:35:39,450 --> 01:35:42,090Unlike Hungary and Romania,Poland uses very similar164101:35:42,090 --> 01:35:45,390language to to Ukrainian. Polandwill provide you with164201:35:45,390 --> 01:35:49,230accommodation, food, medicalassistance, etc. And you can164301:35:49,230 --> 01:35:53,310also work legally if you want.For more info on in Ukrainian164401:35:53,310 --> 01:35:56,880and English, the websiteuae.gov.pl. If you know164501:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,920Ukrainians anywhere, pass it on.164601:35:59,490 --> 01:36:03,090Wow. All right. Very nice. Verynice comics for bloggers. Thank164701:36:03,090 --> 01:36:09,240you. Thanks for Thanks forsupporting the show. Everybody,164801:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,610please remember this thingdoesn't run itself.164901:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,190She gets a monthly. Oh, we165001:36:14,190 --> 01:36:15,030got the monthly. Sure.165101:36:15,059 --> 01:36:20,849Yeah, we get Jeff Miller at $20.Michael Kimmer 533. Leslie165201:36:20,849 --> 01:36:27,599Martin $2 Dred Scott again at$15 a month, Aaron Renaud at $5165301:36:27,629 --> 01:36:33,899Pedro gone calvus at $5. ChadFarrow at 20 to $20.22. LORETTA165401:36:33,899 --> 01:36:40,709Vandenberg at $10. ScottishAlbert at $12. Mark Graham at165501:36:40,709 --> 01:36:45,659$1. Boris because y'all ski at$1. Just maraca at $5. And David165601:36:45,659 --> 01:36:47,429metus. At $10.165701:36:47,700 --> 01:36:50,400Thank you all very much thesemonthly really do make a165801:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,400difference. We appreciate that.And I was actually looking165901:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,850should i Did you check the tallycoin by any chance?166001:36:58,020 --> 01:36:59,400So what about it? Well,166101:36:59,399 --> 01:37:03,299I was wondering if anyone had ifanyone had sent us any donations166201:37:03,299 --> 01:37:03,929through?166301:37:04,500 --> 01:37:07,440Oh, I don't know. The only onethat has access to it. Yeah,166401:37:07,500 --> 01:37:13,500no. Let me see. No, because it'spublic. Public. Yeah, it looks166501:37:13,500 --> 01:37:16,140like we have third. Let me see.We do have something. Yeah,166601:37:16,170 --> 01:37:23,010something came in. We have twopayments, no message. And let's166701:37:23,010 --> 01:37:29,160see. One is 12,840 Satoshis. Andthe other one is no name166801:37:29,160 --> 01:37:33,510anonymous, testing out the newwidget. 24,896. Thank you very166901:37:33,510 --> 01:37:38,550much. Both of you. Yeah, thatworks, man. It works. It works.167001:37:38,940 --> 01:37:43,470Cool. No, it works. Love it.Thank you all for supporting the167101:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,350project. Thank you forsupporting the podcast. We167201:37:46,350 --> 01:37:50,280really appreciate it. And thankyou damn Benjamin for everything167301:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,820you've done in podcasting fromearly days that you continue to167401:37:53,820 --> 01:37:56,550do. I mean, I understand thislittle side gig. You know, pick167501:37:56,550 --> 01:37:59,580up some shares, you'll be rich.Just remember us remember to167601:37:59,580 --> 01:38:00,210boost us.167701:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,760I mean, I wouldn't be here if itwasn't for you, Adam.167801:38:02,819 --> 01:38:10,859Ah damn, we got to hang out man.Are you still in Austin? Right?167901:38:10,859 --> 01:38:13,679You're still an awesome. Yeah,we can we gotta have a burger or168001:38:13,679 --> 01:38:14,519something together. I'd168101:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,070like to love that. Anytime youtell me when I'll be there. So168201:38:17,070 --> 01:38:21,240anything else we can do for you,sir? enough data and so much.168301:38:22,350 --> 01:38:25,800I'm sending you pod pinkies.Okay, thank you. Please do yeah,168401:38:25,800 --> 01:38:26,070get168501:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,360that that would be great.168601:38:27,390 --> 01:38:30,600I mean, I just do that I will.I'm publicly committing to doing168701:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,620it. It will be great. It's168801:38:31,620 --> 01:38:32,400so easy.168901:38:32,910 --> 01:38:38,550And to have that working and tohave your schoolers stuff change169001:38:38,550 --> 01:38:42,030and work the way you expect itin the new podcast apps. That169101:38:42,030 --> 01:38:44,010would be that would be prettycool. I think it's interesting.169201:38:44,370 --> 01:38:50,730If you do. So here, if you putin pod things where you're169301:38:50,730 --> 01:38:55,050sending a GET request to the podpink cloud system every time169401:38:55,500 --> 01:38:59,730they feed changes if you if youdo that, then what I what I can169501:38:59,730 --> 01:39:03,240do is I can set it up to wherewe will push back out a website,169601:39:03,690 --> 01:39:07,830a web sub subscription, like aweb sub ping all yes. If you169701:39:07,830 --> 01:39:09,840want to do it that way. And thenyou can kind of get double bang169801:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,030for your buck. We'll just do it.Do it.169901:39:12,029 --> 01:39:13,259Let's do it. Let's make ithappen.170001:39:14,069 --> 01:39:16,139All right, cool. I'll send youthose cases happening.170101:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,580David. Everything cool with you,man.170201:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,450Yeah, doing good. Yeah, doingfine. We got he's gonna have a170301:39:21,450 --> 01:39:24,660debt. Try to have a dev meetingtomorrow at 12 Central, I think170401:39:24,660 --> 01:39:24,960is over.170501:39:24,990 --> 01:39:27,450Oh, that's right. That's right.Yeah. So I should be able to170601:39:27,450 --> 01:39:29,130dial in for that. We're gonna170701:39:29,220 --> 01:39:33,630get to try to discuss therecommendations tag a little bit170801:39:33,630 --> 01:39:36,780because we need that thingscomplicated and we need some we170901:39:36,780 --> 01:39:37,590need to talk that out.171001:39:37,650 --> 01:39:43,650Excellent. Excellent. And if youwant to intern for Dave Jones,171101:39:43,650 --> 01:39:44,070if you want171201:39:45,239 --> 01:39:47,759to give us one, two, all right,171301:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,630send everything to Adam atpodcast index.org and I will171401:39:51,630 --> 01:39:53,790sort through everything and makesure that you are the right171501:39:53,790 --> 01:39:59,070candidate for zero pay andmaximum exposure. Alright guys,171601:39:59,070 --> 01:39:59,850thanks so much.171701:40:02,370 --> 01:40:03,150Thanks again.171801:40:03,210 --> 01:40:05,640We'll see you next weekeverybody right here podcasting171901:40:05,670 --> 01:40:06,3902.0172001:40:21,899 --> 01:40:26,489You have been listening topodcasting 2.0 Visit podcast172101:40:26,519 --> 01:40:29,189index.com For more information172201:40:32,220 --> 01:40:36,540go podcast boost