Episode 76: Pining for PodPing

1 00:00:00,510 --> 00:00:06,540 podcasting 2.0 for March 4 2020, to Episode 76 pining for pod pig 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,220 and a whole lot more of course, if only we could be live. I'd 3 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:16,770 love to do it live. Hello everybody welcome to the 4 00:00:16,770 --> 00:00:19,290 official board meeting for podcasting. 2.0 everything 5 00:00:19,290 --> 00:00:23,730 happening if podcasting does.org with a namespace and of course 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,910 all the brilliance that flows through podcasts index dot 7 00:00:26,910 --> 00:00:29,700 social. I'm Adam curry here in the heart of the Texas Hill 8 00:00:29,700 --> 00:00:32,430 Country and in Alabama. My confidants and podcasting 9 00:00:32,430 --> 00:00:35,520 debutante my friend on the other end, please say hello to Mr. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Dave Jones. 11 00:00:37,980 --> 00:00:42,180 What up world traveler podcast are everywhere guy? 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:48,240 Yeah. Hey, I'm everywhere. Yeah, dude, I went. I went up to 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Beck's place. Glenn Beck's studio complex in Irving near 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,300 Dallas. 15 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:59,399 Yeah, I know nothing about this because I by by law, by fiat, I 16 00:00:59,399 --> 00:01:04,229 can not allowed to listen to any other Adam curry property until 17 00:01:04,229 --> 00:01:08,249 after this show. Yes. Do not all I got was it all I know was a 18 00:01:08,249 --> 00:01:13,139 text from you saying? I'm I'm in Dallas. Yeah. Circling back. And 19 00:01:13,139 --> 00:01:15,119 I was like, okay, all right. I'll wait. I'll wait. I want to 20 00:01:15,119 --> 00:01:16,049 hear about it when you get back. 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,350 Dude, that's, that's what I was really? Well, first of all, I 22 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:22,230 stayed with my buddy Vic. So it was a lot of fun, because he's 23 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:24,360 one of my friends from Jersey, you know, we known each other 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,680 for over 30 years. And so I stayed at his house and, and he 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,780 went with me, but this Can't he has this like this complex. Have 26 00:01:33,780 --> 00:01:37,650 you ever been to Burbank, like, you know, studios? You know? 27 00:01:38,610 --> 00:01:42,150 You've been to Universal Studios. Yeah. Okay. So those 28 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:47,370 really, really tall buildings. He has to have those concrete. 29 00:01:47,610 --> 00:01:51,000 And yes, good grief is right. And they're filled with studios. 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:57,630 All kinds of, I mean, just what really impressive stuff. You 31 00:01:57,630 --> 00:02:03,330 know, memorabilia movie, things like large displays of things. 32 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,840 And it's just wall to wall technology, huge studios, 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,560 multiple sets. It's like what the hell, and I really didn't do 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,710 my homework on him. But the blaze, you know, they got close 35 00:02:13,710 --> 00:02:16,770 to a million subscribers and paying subscribers like 100 36 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:20,400 bucks a year. Ooh, let that settle in for a sec. Yeah. 37 00:02:22,050 --> 00:02:24,510 100 you can do you can build a lot of studio space with $100 38 00:02:24,510 --> 00:02:24,750 million. 39 00:02:25,290 --> 00:02:28,530 Well, and he has a similar here use a similar building next 40 00:02:28,530 --> 00:02:31,890 door, which is I think the tax strategy where he has a museum. 41 00:02:33,180 --> 00:02:35,580 And this is him to himself. Yeah. Well, it's 42 00:02:35,580 --> 00:02:38,730 not really open to the public yet, but it's all you know, long 43 00:02:38,730 --> 00:02:42,570 rows of tables and documentation. He has smart kids 44 00:02:42,570 --> 00:02:45,570 running around who know everything who are curating and 45 00:02:45,570 --> 00:02:49,380 documenting. It's like, well, here's a Christopher Reeve 46 00:02:49,380 --> 00:02:53,160 Superman suit. Here's a C three P Oh, that's here's the original 47 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,660 R two d two. Oh, and over here, grab a hold of this. Yeah, this 48 00:02:57,660 --> 00:03:00,360 the handle to Abraham Lincoln's door, his front door, so give 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,170 that a good rub. And now here's the Mary Todd Lincoln's dress 50 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:07,380 that she wore when she buried a boy here's the Old Testament in 51 00:03:07,380 --> 00:03:10,440 the original box it just oh, here's we think is the first 52 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:13,050 electric chair here is an original Franz Gillick 53 00:03:13,050 --> 00:03:16,080 guillotine. Here's Roosevelt's original wheelchair. 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,670 I say the original Old Testament in a bomb. Yeah, yes. 55 00:03:21,330 --> 00:03:28,680 I know. In the original box in a wooden box in the original box. 56 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,440 I know. It's huge volumes. Let's do an unboxing of that shit 57 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:40,500 right now. That's cool. really personable guy. He's my age, you 58 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:44,730 know. And we had a really nice conversation hour and a half. 59 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:48,660 Which of course was now he invited me because, you know, 60 00:03:48,660 --> 00:03:54,090 my, my talking about ESG environmental, social governance 61 00:03:54,090 --> 00:03:57,930 and how that relates to the banking system. And I had kind 62 00:03:57,930 --> 00:04:01,140 of I have a wrap now on that, you know, I got a thing that's 63 00:04:01,140 --> 00:04:03,480 kind of down only up to just a little bit. He wrote this book, 64 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,390 The Great reset, where he explains these things as well. 65 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:09,240 And that's the one thing I always liked about Beck is when 66 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,390 he was on Fox, that's the last time I really watched him. You 67 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:14,820 know, he's Blackboard and he'd show you how everything was 68 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:17,700 connected. It always ended with George Soros somehow, you know, 69 00:04:18,030 --> 00:04:22,620 always. So it was it was nice. Yeah. 70 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,260 I haven't heard Glenn. I haven't heard of Glenn Beck show since 71 00:04:25,260 --> 00:04:28,110 he was on like, I don't know. Is he still even on top radio? 72 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:28,710 Yeah, 73 00:04:28,709 --> 00:04:31,439 he still does a three hour show. Yeah, the show is you know, it's 74 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:33,809 like talk radio. You can't listen to too many ads. 75 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:36,419 This is probably like, I mean, I haven't listened to him and 76 00:04:36,419 --> 00:04:39,329 probably oh gosh, is probably close to 20 years. It's been a 77 00:04:39,329 --> 00:04:39,569 long 78 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:43,919 time. Yeah, well, this this particular episode drops on 79 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:44,549 Saturday. 80 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:49,530 No, is this No Is it are you on the blaze thing or is this just 81 00:04:49,530 --> 00:04:50,190 a podcast? They 82 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:55,920 put it on on Blaze TV yesterday. So that's exclusive for members 83 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,040 and then they put it out as I presume a video on YouTube 84 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,000 that's on YouTube and And then podcast on Saturday. Yeah, 85 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:06,900 so it's video here on video yes. Yes not your favorite 86 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,410 not my favorite but nice that you know this the dark room was 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,010 to hang in microphones that he has to white microphones maybe 88 00:05:14,010 --> 00:05:17,190 you've seen it anyway Now we talked about podcasting 2.0 Yeah 89 00:05:17,190 --> 00:05:21,060 of course did you oh yeah no, no I plugged everything I plugged 90 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:24,480 mo facts I plugged no agenda plugged the vortex specifically 91 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,580 because you know, it gets all bent out of shape if I don't 92 00:05:26,580 --> 00:05:27,090 mention him 93 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,150 an index card or something like in your pocket where you're 94 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:32,970 like, like crossing them off or put a check mark, you gotta get 95 00:05:32,970 --> 00:05:33,390 this this 96 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:37,980 dude, I have it in my head and I plugged food intelligence. You 97 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:40,980 know, Texas Slim's beef initiative. Oh, yeah, no, I plug 98 00:05:40,980 --> 00:05:44,670 all my boys. Yeah, of course. Of course. That's that's what I do. 99 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:45,750 This is why I'm here. 100 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:49,590 Yeah, that's blogger blogger for her. Yeah, 101 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:53,760 I'm I'm a bit of a plugger so yeah, it was it was quite 102 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,280 enjoyable. I'm sure I'll be invited back on for something 103 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:00,420 else or whatever. We'll see. Quite the operation up there. I 104 00:06:00,420 --> 00:06:02,250 don't think people realize just how big 105 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:06,540 that museum about though I don't understand why there's like, it 106 00:06:06,540 --> 00:06:08,490 just seems like a general museum. I would have figured you 107 00:06:08,490 --> 00:06:11,670 said Museum. I'm thinking okay. Museum to himself, you know, or 108 00:06:11,670 --> 00:06:13,230 something like that. Like right now. It's 109 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,030 it's he calls it a museum. It's it's not a museum yet. It's 110 00:06:18,090 --> 00:06:20,610 they're starting to lay it all out and stuff. And I'm not quite 111 00:06:20,610 --> 00:06:24,030 sure what I'm pretty sure of it's a tax strategy. 112 00:06:27,210 --> 00:06:28,200 tax strategy. 113 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:30,510 Yeah. If you look, if you have $100 million dollars, non 114 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,010 profit, okay, whatever. However it works, and it's fun. Yeah, 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,370 this is like people with lots of money do like collect cars. 116 00:06:38,460 --> 00:06:40,770 There's all in you put that in a museum. There's all kinds of 117 00:06:40,770 --> 00:06:43,860 reasons to do this. Gotcha. It doesn't matter, but I'm sure 118 00:06:43,860 --> 00:06:46,620 he'll open some of that up to the public at some point. It's a 119 00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:49,500 hobby lobby guy with the Museum of the Bible or whatever. 120 00:06:49,679 --> 00:06:56,039 But imagine, imagine a Costco. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's, that's 121 00:06:56,039 --> 00:06:57,569 the size of the building. Mm hmm. 122 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,490 It's a Costco that sells. This sells, Mary Todd Lincoln. 123 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,560 cufflinks. 124 00:07:04,830 --> 00:07:10,140 It's like, get a compass. You know, like a like the two pointy 125 00:07:10,140 --> 00:07:12,300 things compass. Not a directional compass. 126 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:15,720 Yeah, like a draw like scribe. Yeah, right. Exactly. And 127 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:18,900 he's telling the story about, you know, how he, he had it in 128 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:21,450 his pocket one day, and he was just kind of rubbing it. And 129 00:07:22,380 --> 00:07:27,390 when he was a little nervous about something, and and, and 130 00:07:27,390 --> 00:07:30,660 you tell him the story says this was George Washington's compass. 131 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:33,960 And he hands it to me snap, take that in your hand here. Now rub 132 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,810 over that spot. He said, you feel that so he has like it's 133 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,260 worn down? He says, Yeah, I have a feeling that George Washington 134 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:44,700 was rubbing that very spot. That was kind of cool. And then I 135 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:46,920 said, Can I sit in the electric chair? He says, no, no, you 136 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:55,050 can't do that. Damn. That would have been cool. Yeah, so we'll 137 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:58,830 see. We'll see. I have no idea the reach of next programming. I 138 00:07:58,830 --> 00:08:01,200 don't know if we'll get people showing up. I hope so. 139 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,090 That's, that's kind of an interesting idea that you don't 140 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:10,770 know the reach. I was listening to listening to buzz Castile on 141 00:08:10,830 --> 00:08:14,310 the way home from lunch. And they were talking about tick 142 00:08:14,310 --> 00:08:17,850 tock in house some of their videos again, you know, 1000 143 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:21,090 views other ones again, 50,000 views. And I was just thinking 144 00:08:21,090 --> 00:08:25,380 the whole time. How do you ever know that? That's real? Oh, you 145 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:28,860 don't? Of course not. You have no idea. It could be completely 146 00:08:28,860 --> 00:08:31,890 bogus. Like yeah, it's completely fake and made up 147 00:08:31,890 --> 00:08:35,910 numbers. Yeah. Yeah, that's just a sad thought. 148 00:08:37,020 --> 00:08:38,370 Of course not. You have no idea. 149 00:08:38,490 --> 00:08:41,220 That's a huge revelation of just come to this social media 150 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:43,110 viewers. Numbers are fake. 151 00:08:44,220 --> 00:08:46,590 Yeah, well, what's interesting is when it comes when I when it 152 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:49,410 comes to reach like you on Rogan, a lot of people show up 153 00:08:49,410 --> 00:08:52,470 from Rogan and a lot of people have heard about me through my 154 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:56,040 Rogan appearances. Megyn Kelly, zero Nothing, not a single 155 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,100 thing. And a lot of people watch it. I know a lot of a lot of 156 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:03,840 people watch that and listen to her. Um, Tom woods, lots of 157 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,870 people show up lots of podcasting. 2.0 Hey, what is 158 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:09,000 this? What are you guys doing? You know, he's kind of the 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,260 libertarian guy. 160 00:09:11,220 --> 00:09:15,990 So there's an audience quality gets reflected with the kid with 161 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:17,280 like the crossover. 162 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:20,610 Would you say that? Just say that again. 163 00:09:20,910 --> 00:09:23,910 So there's like, there's this, there's the actual you can just 164 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:26,610 measure roll number say, Okay, well, if you imagine this world 165 00:09:26,610 --> 00:09:30,270 where you can measure every single person that that had this 166 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:33,660 all it is, okay, well, there's this. There's really truly this 167 00:09:33,660 --> 00:09:36,420 many people, but then there's there's the SEC, that doesn't 168 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:40,920 necessarily translate into actual like, doesn't mean that 169 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,380 they're really interested in following through. Oh, no, 170 00:09:43,469 --> 00:09:46,109 no, that's totally dependent upon the audience. What what 171 00:09:46,109 --> 00:09:49,199 type of audience and I can I can understand where Megyn Kelly 172 00:09:49,199 --> 00:09:50,729 audience may not be that interested. 173 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:54,780 Yeah, no, I mean, if they're, if they're more interested, they 174 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:57,930 probably might be more interested in Sharon Osborne 175 00:09:57,930 --> 00:09:59,490 than than you. Yes. That's 176 00:09:59,490 --> 00:10:02,190 why I got by Thanks for Thanks for rubbing up my face. 177 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:05,700 That's not a, that's not a knock on you, that's I got bumped for 178 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:09,090 it. That was my first appearance. But I'm just doing 179 00:10:09,090 --> 00:10:11,850 this a lot. There's a lot of incoming requests, I'm trying to 180 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:15,570 pick and choose as much, you know, smartly as possible. I 181 00:10:15,570 --> 00:10:19,620 love doing the Bitcoin podcasts because, you know, they already 182 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:20,310 kind of get it. 183 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:28,350 You know, you can, so should we save up? Like have a long term 184 00:10:28,350 --> 00:10:34,350 goal to save up? Three bitcoins so that we can become Venezuela 185 00:10:34,350 --> 00:10:34,860 citizen? 186 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:39,180 Oh, yes, of course. We're gonna go buddy. Yeah, podcast. Yeah. 187 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:42,570 moved the whole LLC. Yeah, sure. No, I'm all in but you know, we 188 00:10:42,570 --> 00:10:44,130 have to have six if we're both moving. 189 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:46,590 Yeah, cuz come well, companies are people too. I'm just 190 00:10:46,590 --> 00:10:47,310 thinking we make they 191 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:51,030 made the company person make personnel Salvadorian. Okay, I'm 192 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:51,570 all for that. 193 00:10:52,140 --> 00:10:54,180 Yeah. And then we'll just have, you know, what, have housing 194 00:10:54,180 --> 00:10:55,080 down there that we visit. 195 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,700 And the way to help us reach this lofty goal is by getting a 196 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:06,960 new podcast app, but new podcast apps.com. Boost us we need to 197 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,570 boost boost us to El Salvador 198 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:14,160 in some time around when we're at or you know, in our late 80s 199 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:15,420 We'll be able to make 200 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,570 you know, I was looking as a you know, the first thing I look at 201 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:21,720 in the morning is podcasts index dot social. In fact, that's, you 202 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,110 know, how your browser prioritizes what you look at me, 203 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:29,640 I It's always number one. You'd see what's going on. Interesting 204 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,570 stuff happening. You seem to be doing a lot of shoring up of 205 00:11:33,570 --> 00:11:34,080 stuff. 206 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:39,570 Yeah, it's I'm in cleanup mode, sort of. I'm trying I'm testing 207 00:11:39,570 --> 00:11:42,750 out and it's not so far this has been a complete is not working. 208 00:11:43,740 --> 00:11:47,190 What's not working? No cleanup your cleanup? Project? 209 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:50,010 No, this this, this, this thing I'm about to tell you is not 210 00:11:50,010 --> 00:11:54,120 worked out. Okay. What I've been trying to say I've gotten 211 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:02,010 multiple priorities. So I've got the namespace. The index is what 212 00:12:02,010 --> 00:12:06,240 you might call ancillary software, like, like hello pad. 213 00:12:07,170 --> 00:12:13,830 And then you and then the just the podcast. So I'm trying to 214 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,220 figure in well, I just really probably one more is. So social 215 00:12:20,610 --> 00:12:24,540 contract. What I'm trying to do is separate and have like one 216 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:29,550 week dedicated to namespace This is per month. Like because tasks 217 00:12:29,550 --> 00:12:33,870 witching just sucks me dry. Right? If I have to do like five 218 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:37,080 different things in one day that are in different spheres, 219 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:40,560 spheres of, you know, you need 220 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,080 unity. You need headspace for it. Like if you're doing 221 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,420 lightning shit, you're in different headspace. Yeah, yeah, 222 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:48,150 no, I totally get that. I have that problem, too. With all the 223 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:49,890 codes. I love the coding. I do. 224 00:12:49,950 --> 00:12:52,920 It's really annoying. I know that about you? Yes. Especially 225 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,070 between languages. Yeah. Oh, my goodness, the switches so hard. 226 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,420 And so trying to figure out if I can do okay, dedicate a week 227 00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:06,300 each month to namespace another the next week to API the next 228 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:11,220 week to index in the next week to you know, something like 229 00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:12,480 other software under 230 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:14,460 Raja. How's that working out for you? 231 00:13:14,490 --> 00:13:17,460 Yeah, it's a disaster. It's complete disaster. 232 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,680 I'm sorry to hear that. Thing is like, I knew that was the answer 233 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:23,250 somehow. 234 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:25,950 Yeah, I started the week like, Okay, this is namespace week. 235 00:13:26,010 --> 00:13:28,740 And I haven't looked at the namespace in two days now. So 236 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:33,510 this is what I have with to do lists. Whenever a to do list is 237 00:13:33,510 --> 00:13:39,000 definitely the place where tasks go to die. You know, and yeah, 238 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:42,120 and just and they just hang there, and they sit there and 239 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,400 then what you do, like, I'll start a new to do list, 240 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:47,160 because once you put it on the to do list, you feel like you've 241 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,030 accomplished accomplished 242 00:13:48,030 --> 00:13:52,230 something. Yes, exactly. This is exactly the problem. Right. 243 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:55,290 Okay. Well, how can I how can I make that easier for you, Dave? 244 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,680 I know it's nothing. I don't think it's anything you can do. 245 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:02,070 I just have to actually follow through on my plans. 246 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:09,090 Well, I mean, you you you have read The Seven Habits of Highly 247 00:14:09,090 --> 00:14:09,930 Effective People. 248 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,220 No, hell no, I've 249 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:13,470 not read that. You've never looked at GTD 250 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:18,240 cheat? Get things done. Yeah. No, because get 251 00:14:18,390 --> 00:14:22,770 thing get things done. I do I follow the get things done 252 00:14:22,770 --> 00:14:27,630 method with the freedom controller without lines. 253 00:14:28,020 --> 00:14:30,180 So what is it? What is it's just, 254 00:14:30,630 --> 00:14:34,950 it's just a method of having three basic buckets of things 255 00:14:34,950 --> 00:14:39,030 you're going to prioritize and again, some very simple rules. 256 00:14:39,270 --> 00:14:42,150 And then you know, with the if you if you combine that kind of 257 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:47,430 with the seven habits of highly effective people you get, so 258 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:50,400 it's kind of a toolkit of a work methodology. You can take little 259 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,360 bits and pieces of it but personally, getting things done 260 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,300 and you can get, I mean, there's all kinds of outliner based 261 00:14:57,630 --> 00:15:00,210 things that will do it but the freedom controllers perfect For 262 00:15:00,210 --> 00:15:00,600 that, 263 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,650 this is the thing. Well, the thing that I'm most need to get 264 00:15:05,220 --> 00:15:08,610 in most, that's a dangerous work. Yeah, the thing that is 265 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,060 annoying me the most right now is is the aggro is the 266 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:14,520 aggregator. So the aggregator split into two parts, you got a 267 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,740 polar and a parser. And they run pair, they run parallel. And 268 00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:23,880 there's there's eight of them currently, they they are all 269 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:31,470 pulling feeds and parsing them in parallel, right? The the, the 270 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:35,370 polar part of that is called aggravate in it as a node. js 271 00:15:35,370 --> 00:15:40,920 script. Yeah. And it's a big mess. It was written back at the 272 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,350 time of node 12. And I've been carrying it forward, we're now 273 00:15:46,350 --> 00:15:51,030 on like Node 17. Or send us like five versions back. Yeah. And 274 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,650 the since then, the main library request library, HTTP Polar 275 00:15:55,650 --> 00:15:59,370 Library that it uses is just called request, that's been that 276 00:15:59,370 --> 00:16:02,220 has been deprecated. It's no longer even in active 277 00:16:02,220 --> 00:16:07,020 development. Yeah, the bug fixes don't get get done. It's slowly 278 00:16:07,020 --> 00:16:11,640 breaking over time, it is slowly getting more and more unable to 279 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,960 handle modern quirks within protocol. It's got crud. 280 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:17,310 Yeah. And 281 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:21,750 so that, like it doesn't, I've been noticing more and more TLS 282 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:25,290 1.3 issues where it just kill you 283 00:16:25,290 --> 00:16:28,080 had one the other day, where did you someone's couldn't 284 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,430 authenticate with there was not it, I saw something come into 285 00:16:32,430 --> 00:16:35,730 the email, application issues, 286 00:16:36,270 --> 00:16:39,690 we there was something with, well, and I still haven't 287 00:16:39,690 --> 00:16:42,570 figured this out, it's something buried deep in this library, 288 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:48,000 where there's one seed out there, that that just won't, it 289 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,590 doesn't seem to SSL handshake correctly. And I can't, I can't 290 00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:56,040 figure it out. And I've been sort of battling this for a few 291 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,840 days and stuff, I've, um, I've started laying out a new 292 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:05,280 aggregate a new puller. And so I've got it framed like 293 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,490 wireframe, and it's a rust app and that kind of thing. So I 294 00:17:08,490 --> 00:17:14,220 feel like that's the direction I want to go. And it's working 295 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:18,990 well so far. But now what I need to do is figure out a way, the 296 00:17:18,990 --> 00:17:22,740 conceptual work for this is going to be to make it not touch 297 00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:27,600 the database. If, like, ever, if all possible, what I really 298 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,350 wanted to do is just pull the list of feeds from the database 299 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:36,000 in my database initially, and then never touch it again. And 300 00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:41,250 and then let the parser takeover, parse out everything 301 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:44,670 and let it update the database. Because currently, what's 302 00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:47,310 happening is the puller and the parser are both touching the 303 00:17:47,310 --> 00:17:50,880 database a bunch. So if there's a, if you're, if it goes out 304 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,060 there to pull a feed, and it ends up with a 301, redirect, 305 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,250 then it then it stops, updates the database to show that it's a 306 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:06,000 301, then tries to follow the redirect, and then comes back. 307 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,050 And if that if that worked, then it updates the database with 308 00:18:10,260 --> 00:18:12,840 with a success, time code and all this kind of stuff. There's 309 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,650 all this stuff in order to keep if if last modified since header 310 00:18:16,650 --> 00:18:19,680 headers and all this kind of stuff in shape. So what I really 311 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,870 want this new version to do is essentially pull the feed or 312 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:30,600 attempt to describe all the things that happened in that 313 00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:35,250 attempt into the feed file that has the content 314 00:18:35,699 --> 00:18:39,299 and the logic, the logic is in there, even right now if the 315 00:18:39,299 --> 00:18:40,739 parser has to get anything, 316 00:18:41,130 --> 00:18:44,610 right and then the parser can pick it up and either parse it 317 00:18:44,610 --> 00:18:47,700 or not, and update the database accordingly with what it found 318 00:18:47,790 --> 00:18:48,060 in the 319 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:55,350 file. You know, you need. You need an intern. And you do you 320 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:58,260 need an intern? You do need an intern to help you with your 321 00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:01,290 busy schedule. I can I find an intern for you. 322 00:19:01,949 --> 00:19:05,969 Sure. Yeah, absolutely. As Kim cannot pay them nothing and 323 00:19:06,059 --> 00:19:07,679 awesome around and they can feel like crap. 324 00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:11,100 As I said an intern this is exactly this is college credit 325 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:13,830 kid. What's your problem? This is this is experience. This is 326 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,450 in fact, in fact, you should be paying us 327 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:17,670 exposure, this exposure. 328 00:19:19,650 --> 00:19:24,390 Exposure, it's good for your exposure. Mm hmm. Okay, that's 329 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:29,670 what I'm right now pod ping is kind of outside of this, but the 330 00:19:29,670 --> 00:19:33,240 more pod ping the less. We need to rely on this type of system. 331 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,780 Correct. 332 00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:38,700 Okay, yeah. If I could talk, if I could tell this guy I know Dan 333 00:19:38,700 --> 00:19:41,520 Benjamin into supporting pod thing, then my life would be 334 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,190 even easier. hours a week. Let's go 335 00:19:44,190 --> 00:19:47,910 find this guy. I saw him show up in a press release today. Or 336 00:19:47,910 --> 00:19:53,220 yesterday, I think Yeah. And I'm like, What is he doing? And why 337 00:19:53,220 --> 00:19:55,920 hasn't he requested our permission to go and do this 338 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:01,410 before he went off. Fincher, welcome to the board. Meeting a 339 00:20:01,470 --> 00:20:04,080 board member we've had here before. We always appreciate him 340 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,260 coming by fellow Texan. Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to Mr. 341 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:08,100 Dan Benjamin. 342 00:20:08,670 --> 00:20:11,820 Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks. You know, it's always honored to be 343 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:12,660 here. I appreciate it. 344 00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:15,540 That's right. Hi guys. Like Like, smash that like button 345 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,040 subscribe. There you go. 346 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,080 You're the Joan Rivers, podcasting. 2.00 347 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,440 I am wonderful. I'll take it. I think I can go with that. 348 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:29,100 Dan, man, Dan, Dan the man so it was just coincidental that we 349 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:32,040 had just scheduled for today or did we pick you up for the most 350 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:32,940 recent announcement? 351 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,450 I mean, I think both I think there's a little element of both 352 00:20:36,450 --> 00:20:39,720 in life there everything is a mystery. So but I'm you know, 353 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,730 I'm glad to be here. We definitely have some cool stuff 354 00:20:41,730 --> 00:20:44,970 to talk about. And um, it was just perfect timing. I think you 355 00:20:44,970 --> 00:20:48,930 guys had the the opening and, and Dave hit me up and he's 356 00:20:48,930 --> 00:20:51,390 like, You gotta come on. I'm like these course I'll be on 357 00:20:51,540 --> 00:20:52,560 course I'll be on so. 358 00:20:52,650 --> 00:20:58,110 So Dan, is the founder and CEO of fireside.fm. And Mark Cuban 359 00:20:58,110 --> 00:21:02,790 works for him. Whatever happened to that Cubans thing, and no one 360 00:21:02,790 --> 00:21:05,190 gave a shit about that Dude, that was just just went away. 361 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 No, it didn't go away. It sees they're still using it. They're 362 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,060 still out there doing stuff with it raising raising big money 363 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:17,130 signing up. Really NFL? Yes, it's not. It's not. It's not 364 00:21:17,130 --> 00:21:17,550 great. No. 365 00:21:17,550 --> 00:21:21,510 Is it close is a closed system. I mean, are these NFL podcasts? 366 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:23,640 I have no idea. I don't know what they're doing over what 367 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,520 happened to the name dispute. How did that get settled? Still? 368 00:21:26,550 --> 00:21:32,310 It's not settled. Oh, man. It's still happening. It's you know, 369 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:35,940 I don't know. I don't know about you. But like, the prospect of 370 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:41,460 going after a, like a multi billionaire. You know, isn't 371 00:21:41,670 --> 00:21:42,360 thrilling? 372 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,030 Well, I did it. I did. I countersued MTV over mtv.com. 373 00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:52,710 And it wasn't, it was very scary. Yeah, the legal fees were 374 00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:59,220 insane. Yes, I'm talking. I'm talking $200,000. Sure. And that 375 00:21:59,220 --> 00:22:06,120 was 1992. Yes, it's now that's crazy. Yeah. How's how's the 376 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,030 real fight? How's the og fireside.fm? Doing? 377 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:12,600 It's going really well, you know, there. There's, there's 378 00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:15,990 features in the works. And it's just it's slow. Because, you 379 00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:18,720 know, I'm doing I'm doing other things as we're going to talk 380 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,660 about and so it you know, I have I have people helping me. And 381 00:22:21,660 --> 00:22:22,020 that's, 382 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:25,230 do you have internal interns? 383 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,970 Don't have interns that I can boss around? And what was meant? 384 00:22:30,270 --> 00:22:33,000 Nothing? Yeah, pay? No, no, I pay I pay a lot. 385 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,180 So where are you on? I'm just gonna drill you until we get to 386 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:38,610 the meat and potatoes here. Where are you on namespace 387 00:22:38,610 --> 00:22:40,890 integration? What are you doing on that? 388 00:22:41,820 --> 00:22:44,700 I really good. I'm behind a little bit. Now. I was in the 389 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:50,490 lead for a while adopt anytime, Dave would date or a dream of a 390 00:22:50,490 --> 00:22:53,430 feature? And I would have it implemented before he could? 391 00:22:53,730 --> 00:22:57,450 Yes. But good old days before you found venture capital. 392 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,590 Yeah, and I'm not in that quite of a fast Mo. But working on it. 393 00:23:01,590 --> 00:23:04,740 I want to be 100% compliant to the namespace. And that's the 394 00:23:04,740 --> 00:23:08,400 goal. And I'm committing to that guys publicly committing to it. 395 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:09,870 Oh, 396 00:23:09,870 --> 00:23:15,780 okay. So carefully what more I can do for you. Time code. 397 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,560 Now you you've been a great a great supporter, Dan, really 398 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,340 appreciate I know 399 00:23:20,639 --> 00:23:23,009 what you're doing. And we're freeing it, we're freeing it 400 00:23:23,009 --> 00:23:26,549 from our corporate overlords over at Apple podcasts and 401 00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:29,669 Spotify, who I like both of those companies for different 402 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:31,889 reasons. And I have problems about those companies for 403 00:23:31,889 --> 00:23:34,919 different reasons. But I think that I think that overall, 404 00:23:35,549 --> 00:23:40,169 having something like this is, this is exactly why I made 405 00:23:40,169 --> 00:23:43,229 fireside in the first place because supporting independent 406 00:23:43,229 --> 00:23:47,189 podcasters supporting people that are out there, just just 407 00:23:47,249 --> 00:23:49,649 trying to have fun with this in this space and trying to do 408 00:23:49,649 --> 00:23:53,279 something that it's important and meaningful. And not, you 409 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:56,129 know, having a standard out there having an index out there 410 00:23:56,339 --> 00:24:00,629 is so nice. It's so so, so cool. And you guys have built the 411 00:24:00,629 --> 00:24:06,059 right kind of API, and it's it's self aware. It's a living thing. 412 00:24:06,329 --> 00:24:09,239 And I love that about it. So yeah, I'm all behind. 413 00:24:09,270 --> 00:24:14,250 Thank you. And what I realize myself a day or two ago is, you 414 00:24:14,250 --> 00:24:19,290 know, just looking at how well you can do with with booster 415 00:24:19,290 --> 00:24:23,760 grams, but also really the independence and the reliability 416 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,960 of podcasts and 2.0. That, you know, as an industry, we kind of 417 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,720 think of things like, well, you know, you're not as big as 418 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,880 Apple, you're not as big as Spotify, you know, you don't 419 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,690 register. But that's not really the point. The point is, we have 420 00:24:36,690 --> 00:24:41,040 an uninterrupted flow. We have features that people want, it 421 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,520 could take five more years before, you know, these apps 422 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,580 really and this type of function could take 10 years I don't know 423 00:24:47,580 --> 00:24:51,150 before the functionality is generally accepted and expected. 424 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:54,450 But we'll get there that it doesn't have to be like this. 425 00:24:54,690 --> 00:24:57,060 Oh, well. You know, we'll never be bigger than Apple who gives a 426 00:24:57,060 --> 00:25:00,690 shit, right? Anybody who wants to feature anybody podcasts who 427 00:25:00,690 --> 00:25:04,320 tells their audience, Hey, you want to support me this way? Or 428 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,650 do you want to see chapters this way, their audience will 429 00:25:07,710 --> 00:25:11,970 eventually go get an app. They will. That's just how it works. 430 00:25:11,970 --> 00:25:14,850 That's how it's always worked. I mean, the person the first, 431 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:18,540 arguably the first app was an AppleScript gear, download this 432 00:25:18,540 --> 00:25:19,410 figured out. 433 00:25:20,580 --> 00:25:23,850 Here's the thing I've been thinking about. And I think I 434 00:25:23,850 --> 00:25:28,410 read and this was the week of to, like, the two stupidest 435 00:25:28,410 --> 00:25:32,940 articles I've read in like years. What one was this? This 436 00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:36,090 article about? The whole internet's gonna become a 437 00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:36,870 podcast, 438 00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:39,090 wrote this, I need to 439 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:43,740 I don't even know somebody in Forbes. It was so stupid. And 440 00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:47,340 then but the other one was, this other article said, the guy's 441 00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:51,090 basic premise was the apple podcast app sucks, but I'm but 442 00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:55,350 I'm never gonna stop using it. Oh, what was that about? It was 443 00:25:55,380 --> 00:26:00,090 essentially like this weird diatribe about how it's hard to 444 00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:03,390 stop using something once you have some inertia. And even 445 00:26:03,390 --> 00:26:05,760 though it's it's this horrible thing that makes my life 446 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,030 miserable. I'm just never gonna stop using Oh, did 447 00:26:09,030 --> 00:26:10,470 James Kirtland write this? 448 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:16,500 No, no, no. This was somebody from? I can't I can't even 449 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,480 remember. I don't even remember. I've got it. Actually, you know 450 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,420 what I've ever printed out. I shouldn't have to remember 451 00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:26,160 things. I printed them. Yes. And it's from Fast Company. That's 452 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,480 where it's wrong. Okay. So anyway, the so here's, here's 453 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:36,780 what I was thinking. The problem here with a lot of things, 454 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,470 there's there's always this chicken and egg problem of new 455 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:45,870 features. And he has some, he knows some apps that wait for 456 00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:48,870 the for the hosts, and then some hosts that wait for the apps and 457 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:57,750 his chicken and egg. What Why can't we start a industry why a 458 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:03,630 campaign that's that's the word I'm looking for a PR campaign of 459 00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:06,390 get a decent podcast app. 460 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:12,030 A modern I prefer modern, modern day modern podcast app. I've 461 00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:15,660 been saying this for months and months. And some people pick it 462 00:27:15,660 --> 00:27:19,410 up a little bit. Actually, Dream James Cridland uses that very 463 00:27:19,410 --> 00:27:20,010 often. 464 00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:23,640 It's the meaning people it was the 465 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,460 podcast is the podcasters ship, that's if you want to help 466 00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:31,350 podcasting 2.0 You need to remind your listeners to get a 467 00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:34,110 modern podcast app. And that's why we have new podcast apps 468 00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:34,680 calm. 469 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:38,190 I feel like there needs to be this PR component to it where 470 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:43,980 people feel like they they're getting like their their money 471 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,700 missing out like like a FOMO if they don't also say like this 472 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,670 whole thing of, you know, get get to show wherever you get 473 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:53,850 your podcast, that became a thing because it other people 474 00:27:53,850 --> 00:27:57,840 were doing it. If we if we make it popular to say, Get out, you 475 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,930 know, don't use don't use a crappy podcast app get a better 476 00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:01,170 here's 477 00:28:01,170 --> 00:28:04,110 what I do. If you want to ensure that the next time you listen to 478 00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:06,930 the no agenda show that you actually get it on your podcast 479 00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:10,320 app, and it's updated within 60 seconds of me releasing it and 480 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,860 you want all these cool new features, get a modern podcast 481 00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:19,650 app, a new podcast apps calm but also the apps you know, apps 482 00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:22,980 need to be marketing themselves you know, software that's and 483 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:25,440 not everyone has that aspiration by the way, not everybody 484 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,230 aspires to going out of marketing their app, but the 485 00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:30,750 ones that do see success 486 00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:35,760 Well, it's not just podcasting 2.0 apps to its I was the 487 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,410 broader indie independent podcast app ecosystem so I mean, 488 00:28:40,410 --> 00:28:43,110 that's that's for us addict and 489 00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:45,990 then and for us it's hard when people ask me all the time, what 490 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:47,940 do you recommend? I can't recommend anything that's not 491 00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:51,540 fair. Yeah, go Tron. And I like them all for different reasons. 492 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:55,530 Honestly. I use five six apps continuously. 493 00:28:56,250 --> 00:29:01,680 Same now but yeah, I feel I felt like we can make a dent in this 494 00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:06,930 behemoth of apple pie. I go back keep going back to this example 495 00:29:06,930 --> 00:29:11,790 of Google Chrome that never ships on any computer all these 496 00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:15,060 this this dominant market share that Google Chrome has grown 497 00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:15,390 because 498 00:29:15,390 --> 00:29:18,240 people point that's a huge point. 499 00:29:19,230 --> 00:29:24,060 Dan, you're a marketing guy. What do we do? Dance Dance more 500 00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:26,820 marketing guy they you know believe me damn it when I say 501 00:29:26,820 --> 00:29:27,960 that I'm sincere. I'm 502 00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:32,850 not the reason I laugh because I'm the only things that me and 503 00:29:32,850 --> 00:29:37,530 Dan have ever done together have been dismal failures. How about 504 00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:40,110 that you add that user ID about this? 505 00:29:40,140 --> 00:29:42,660 I mean, you know it's been picked up by everyone it's 506 00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:46,950 supported across the industry universally and you know, we're 507 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:50,520 getting our we should be getting our Platinum our check for that. 508 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,020 Yeah, and the check to check Yeah, where's that? Um, I don't 509 00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:58,140 know what you guys I don't know. Because the thing is, you know, 510 00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:01,320 if you if you look at the stats, and I'm I see stats all the time 511 00:30:01,350 --> 00:30:04,590 with the fireside stuff and I'm seeing them in our spooler stuff 512 00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:09,270 to some degree. It's I mean, it really is overwhelmingly still 513 00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:13,290 like everybody, stupid. Everybody uses Apple podcasts 514 00:30:13,290 --> 00:30:16,860 like it's, it's there on your phone. And it's that's the the 515 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,730 really at the end of the day, it comes down to that. And the 516 00:30:20,730 --> 00:30:23,940 difference is that discriminating people will say, 517 00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:26,160 Well, I'm going to try a different app for this, or my 518 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,800 friend said to try this one, or I'm already using a different 519 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,780 one. And they don't care what's on their phone, when they take 520 00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:33,390 it out of the box, you know, and you're to your point about 521 00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:37,560 Chrome. Yeah, people have to go and download Chrome. And they 522 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,500 have to know to do that. And I'm always a little bit surprised 523 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:45,150 when someone that I consider to be kind of an Normie, or a new, 524 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:48,480 you know, somebody who's just a regular human being has chrome 525 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240 on their Mac, for example, and they're not using Safari that 526 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,710 always throws me a little bit, you know, 527 00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:56,280 but we have so again, it doesn't matter to me that most people 528 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,580 listen on Apple. In fact, the more apple breaks, the more 529 00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:02,850 people choose the modern podcast app, I have it every single day. 530 00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,360 It's like, Oh, it didn't, you didn't upload it to Apple, okay. 531 00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:11,730 Go get it, go get it over here. Doesn't doesn't really matter to 532 00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:14,160 me. And it doesn't it overall, doesn't matter. We have the 533 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,980 connective tissue, I believe. And it just it's taking time, 534 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:23,490 but it's taking off of the value for value streaming payments. 535 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520 That's what binds everybody together. incentivize 536 00:31:26,550 --> 00:31:30,960 incentivizes the entire ecosystem. And we're moving 537 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,530 towards that. It's just time. It's just time. And this size 538 00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:37,380 doesn't matter. But Apple be the number one, lots of people drive 539 00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:39,090 ugly ass shit cars, too. 540 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:45,990 Well, now the the Google Chrome analogy, I think it kind of 541 00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:50,100 bears out what it what it means to be cool. Give me 542 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,800 a pretending like because Google doesn't have a marketing budget 543 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,380 for that. How about the search engines? I mean, there's all 544 00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:59,100 kinds of there was on both sides. It's on both sides. It's 545 00:31:59,100 --> 00:31:59,460 you know, 546 00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:02,100 you want it but but the marketing the marketing budget 547 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,520 for Chrome? See, I don't think that's where they won. Because 548 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,790 Mike, Microsoft has marketing budgets to it that at one time 549 00:32:08,790 --> 00:32:12,090 were much bigger than Google. And what I'm saying is, I think 550 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:19,290 the chrome one, because it became uncool. To use Internet 551 00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:23,910 Explorer, that's a very valid point. It became like you were 552 00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:26,790 you were a loser. You're considered to be like an old, 553 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:30,240 like an old, you know, like an old person. Like, it wasn't like 554 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,030 Facebook, Facebook or whatever. Oh, you still use Facebook? I 555 00:32:33,030 --> 00:32:35,910 mean, that's like, I would never use that. Yeah, right now, 556 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:39,540 right. So somehow, somehow there, there has to be this, 557 00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:43,830 this cool factor that, that that happens and, you know, clear 558 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:46,860 clearly. I know everything I'm talking about with marketing. So 559 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:52,050 that we have we have 15 cool factor features. You know, some 560 00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:56,730 nerdy Well, chapters is a real thing. I mean, chapters is 561 00:32:56,730 --> 00:32:59,940 something being being discussed. Let's talk about spooler right 562 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:05,040 now. And by the way, James Oh, bogs didn't contact me and asked 563 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,010 me to be a part of this wonderful venture. I'm so 564 00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:11,460 disciplined. I'll take it up with him. So disappointed. How 565 00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:14,130 did this come? What is spooler? How this come together? Dan? 566 00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:16,770 What? Give us some details. 567 00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:23,220 Yes. So um, so I think it was like the original idea was fully 568 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:26,640 I think, fully formed before they before they found me and 569 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,710 this was the, the founders or Andy Bowers, James bhagsu 570 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:36,960 mentioned and Henry Blodgett who, who runs insider comm. And 571 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:40,080 they had this concept, I think they called it something like, 572 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,980 like, like always on audio news, or something like that. But the 573 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:48,210 idea behind it was really, the idea that you could have, you 574 00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:52,890 know, podcasts are, are primarily used for things later, 575 00:33:52,890 --> 00:33:55,470 right, like, oh, the big now, whatever the Big Apple event, 576 00:33:55,470 --> 00:33:57,330 and then we're going to talk about it later or whatever. 577 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,570 Because it's difficult to get that kind of immediacy and 578 00:34:00,570 --> 00:34:04,170 urgency around a podcast. Now, when you record because your 579 00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:07,140 background is in broadcasting, you've got a really, really 580 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:09,690 great workflow that lets you record something. And 581 00:34:09,690 --> 00:34:13,110 essentially, like, it's live to tape, you can you can publish 582 00:34:13,110 --> 00:34:17,580 the thing almost immediately. But, you know, even even 583 00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:21,480 something like that. It's, it's a different technology, a 584 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,720 different technique than the way that news companies are really 585 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:29,160 organized and set up to run. And so the idea was, maybe we could 586 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,930 use the kind of content insertion, I won't call it ad 587 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:37,620 insertion, because that limits the concept of what it is. But 588 00:34:37,770 --> 00:34:41,610 that that same technology that's used for dynamic ad insertion in 589 00:34:41,610 --> 00:34:44,700 a lot of podcasts, couldn't we use something like that to 590 00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:48,960 create content that's based on stories, news stories that are 591 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,440 breaking and that are updating? So what you have is you have 592 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,120 this concept of a new story or a new segment. And and so the 593 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,540 example you might use is like Biden is going to In the nuclear 594 00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:03,420 summit, Biden is attending the nuclear summit, Biden attended 595 00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:05,400 the nuclear summit. And I had this to say about it. Well, 596 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,760 technically, that's one story, right? That's a lifecycle of a 597 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:15,360 single, a single story. And maybe there's a way to take that 598 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,070 story. And automatically as the story gets updated, essentially, 599 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:25,200 publish that. But have it be part of a bigger set of news 600 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,840 stories that in other words, isn't is an episode of a 601 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,350 podcast. But then as these individual stories get updated, 602 00:35:31,470 --> 00:35:34,620 the episode can be republished, some of the content is brand 603 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,500 new, some of it is being updated. And so you get this 604 00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:40,170 almost like a river of news. That was kind of the original 605 00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:44,640 concept. And so the, you know, using those tools to do that, 606 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,910 that means that you can have different reporters or different 607 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:50,580 voice talent or different content creators in different 608 00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:53,460 places. They're all saying, Oh, here's a news story, they can 609 00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:58,080 record that thing and publish it. And then it gets updated 610 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,270 within this larger episode, this larger podcast, and that's kind 611 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:07,320 of the, you know, the the genesis of this idea and just 612 00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:12,780 does a new episode each time or you, you, you pick up the same 613 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:14,700 episode, each time is different. 614 00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:18,630 Yeah, you're getting essentially because of the way that that 615 00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:21,930 gives you IDs work behind the scenes in order for podcast 616 00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:26,040 clients to actually get that update. Right? It needs to be a 617 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,220 new episode, otherwise, the people would only ever hear 618 00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:32,640 those updates, if they, so maybe you ask him what kind of spec 619 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,060 for this. But, you know, because right now, the thing that 620 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,840 triggers a podcast client to download something is that 621 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,890 different grid, that's what it says to them, I've got something 622 00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:46,200 new to download, it's not published date, it's not 623 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,440 anything yet. It's not the title. It's that grid. So in 624 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,500 order to push new content out, we've got to update that well. 625 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,780 So that's where kind of the genesis of this embeddable 626 00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:59,370 player that is really useful for a news organization is, and that 627 00:36:59,370 --> 00:37:02,790 is we use a completely different mechanism to update these 628 00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:06,090 players. But the idea is that you go to the website, in this 629 00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:08,640 case, it would be insider, but could be any, any news website, 630 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,760 any website, you would go to that. And there's going to be a 631 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,190 player that's going to be automatically updating itself, 632 00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:16,890 whenever there's new content and showing you what's new. So 633 00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:20,190 alright, so hold on, he calls let me understand something. So 634 00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:24,300 yeah, part of the strategy is you have a specialized player, 635 00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:27,870 which is necessary for the way it works. And how do we make 636 00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:30,930 this work on podcasting? 2.0? Can we make that work? What can 637 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:34,470 we do? Is that a pod ping thing? How do we accomplish this? 638 00:37:34,739 --> 00:37:37,709 Yeah, I mean, I think it could very well be because, you know, 639 00:37:37,769 --> 00:37:41,999 again, the RSS feeds with the right kind of tags in them. 640 00:37:42,179 --> 00:37:45,239 Maybe there's a way, I don't know. But it would be really 641 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,239 great. If there was some other trigger that could say read 642 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,379 download this episode. And Mark, it is new. I don't know I 643 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,989 haven't given that a ton of thought, but but 644 00:37:54,989 --> 00:37:57,419 we get we've gotten, we've gotten you know, we've refreshed 645 00:37:57,419 --> 00:38:00,869 refresh the metadata now on every on every poll. So if 646 00:38:00,869 --> 00:38:04,829 something has changed within the feed, like, so, we're looking at 647 00:38:04,829 --> 00:38:09,539 the item details themselves. And if one of those item details has 648 00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:14,939 changed, it will trigger sort of a refresh in the database. So it 649 00:38:14,939 --> 00:38:18,929 sounds to me, like, what's happening is there's a lot of 650 00:38:18,929 --> 00:38:20,849 and this is why I wanted to have you on because I wanted to get 651 00:38:20,849 --> 00:38:25,559 through this whole topic. The it sounds to me like what is be 652 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:30,299 critical for this is pod paying support. Yeah. Because Because 653 00:38:30,299 --> 00:38:34,019 when, you know, every time the feed or something in the feed 654 00:38:34,019 --> 00:38:37,859 changes, or the audio enclosure changes, or something, there 655 00:38:37,859 --> 00:38:41,939 needs to be if it can happen, so if it can happen really quickly, 656 00:38:42,479 --> 00:38:47,099 like within hours, rather than you know, then is we really need 657 00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:49,979 to be getting, like some kind of trigger that says, okay, 658 00:38:49,979 --> 00:38:51,419 something changed, something changed something. 659 00:38:51,450 --> 00:38:55,290 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, with RSS feeds, 660 00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,260 you know, there's some, you need something like, like popping, 661 00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:00,600 you need something like that. And that's absolutely something 662 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,440 that they want to 663 00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,920 do. Damn. So let me just understand the business here. Is 664 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,060 this intended for news organizations to use spooler? Or 665 00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:13,170 is the you see this as a consumer product? What exactly 666 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,020 is the product? Yeah, 667 00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:19,410 so yes, the answer to your question is yes to both things 668 00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:23,640 right now for sure. 100% This is something that news 669 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,810 organizations would do when we've had like crazy interest, 670 00:39:28,050 --> 00:39:31,410 but they they love this because what this means is typically 671 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:34,350 especially news organizations that have like a radio arm 672 00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:39,360 already, they can get rid of people. Well, probably, but what 673 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,670 they what they're doing is they're generating sometimes 674 00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:44,490 hundreds of news stories, and they're essentially they're 675 00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:47,220 sending those to their affiliates. And their affiliates 676 00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:49,470 are like taking the ones they want but when they're editing 677 00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:51,720 them down into a radio show or whatever they're doing it's 678 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,690 there's like it's editing like it's legit like they're Embroid 679 00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:57,660 God Pro Tools or whatever. And they're they're editing stuff 680 00:39:57,660 --> 00:40:00,780 together. And with this solution, it's all programmatics 681 00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:03,390 when you're listening to something that spelers created, 682 00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:06,900 we're doing everything behind the scenes. We're taking those 683 00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,390 different news stories, what we call segments, and we're 684 00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:11,850 organizing them. And you can you can just by dragging and 685 00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:14,010 dropping, you can pick them, you can pick the order. 686 00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,460 They get a CMS that they put, yes, 687 00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:21,030 yes. And then there's this river within the CMS of oh, here's all 688 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:23,430 the stories I can choose from, I can put them in the order that I 689 00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:25,980 want. I can put little sound effects in there. I can put in 690 00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:29,820 themes. I can have looping music beds, I can do intros, outros, I 691 00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:33,750 can do ad insertion, obviously. And when I hit that publish 692 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:38,220 button, it's going to take all of that build an mp3, it's going 693 00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:41,640 to, you know, completely sweeten the audio with the Dolby stuff. 694 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,670 And then it's going to publish it both to the player and to the 695 00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:48,510 RSS feed. And so the player has a different feed that it uses. 696 00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:52,050 It's not RSS, it's JSON, that just a custom JSON that we use 697 00:40:52,050 --> 00:40:55,980 to power the player. And then the RSS feed, it gets updated. 698 00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,340 And of course, we're doing chapters and everything else 699 00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:02,010 that you would normally do do an mp3 file and delivering it down. 700 00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:02,310 Yeah. 701 00:41:02,819 --> 00:41:06,119 How about podcasts in 2.0 chapters? Can we get some 702 00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:07,649 namespace for this? 703 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,170 That is very high on the list, the next thing that we're 704 00:41:10,170 --> 00:41:10,740 working on, 705 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,420 the pod thing has got to be critical in here. Yeah, 706 00:41:15,419 --> 00:41:19,829 we can we can, because what it does, excuse me that the way I 707 00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:22,529 see it is it would help you with your consumer part of the 708 00:41:22,529 --> 00:41:25,169 business, which is it seems undeveloped as of yet. 709 00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:28,590 Yes. By His name secret or just secret secret? 710 00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:34,349 Oh, I'm sorry. I need to say, Wow, I'm under NDA. Oh, I wish I 711 00:41:34,349 --> 00:41:41,129 could tell you all the secret. I'd love you, Todd. The, you 712 00:41:41,129 --> 00:41:44,159 know, we can immediately you know, depending on support, but 713 00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:47,999 I don't see why not. It you know, we can make a lot of this 714 00:41:47,999 --> 00:41:51,179 into the new apps. And you would have a consumer play right 715 00:41:51,179 --> 00:41:54,839 there. I would love that. Yeah, we and by the way, Dave, they're 716 00:41:54,839 --> 00:41:58,589 looking for a senior software engineer, you would like to be 717 00:41:58,619 --> 00:42:00,869 early applicant, I can click here apply. And 718 00:42:01,590 --> 00:42:04,260 they can't they can't afford me. I don't think 719 00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:07,500 so. You're right. So how did you get involved in this, Dan? I 720 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,080 mean, yeah, because you're the chief technology officer. Of 721 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,630 course, we all we all know, James, I guess you knew him a 722 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:13,680 bit better than me. 723 00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:18,119 James, it's all because of James. So um, James, James left 724 00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,329 Apple. And I think he was, you know, just figuring out what he 725 00:42:21,329 --> 00:42:24,929 wanted to do next. And after, after he reached out to me, I 726 00:42:24,929 --> 00:42:27,749 was just kind of I had seen the tweet that he made when he was 727 00:42:27,749 --> 00:42:30,509 leaving apple. And I said, Hey, man, I said, whatever you're 728 00:42:30,509 --> 00:42:34,079 doing next, like I want I want to be part of it. Because I 729 00:42:34,109 --> 00:42:37,259 always enjoyed working with him at Apple. He was so helpful to 730 00:42:37,259 --> 00:42:38,909 me and to five by five and 731 00:42:39,450 --> 00:42:43,470 fireside was very gracious. Oh, nice. Oh, absolutely. 732 00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:47,130 I mean, and he's one of these guys that he's just like, when 733 00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:49,980 you meet him in the first five minutes, like he was so nice. 734 00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:52,680 And like, he's always that nice. Like, he's just one of these 735 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,490 genuinely kind, nice people who's enthusiastic about the 736 00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,730 stuff you guys are doing and stuff I've been doing. And so a 737 00:42:59,730 --> 00:43:02,340 little while later, he's like, Were you serious? When you said 738 00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:04,950 you might want to work on some with me? I'm like, Yeah, I would 739 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:07,650 love to work on something with you. And, and so that's when he 740 00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:11,340 introduced me to Andy. And they, you know, Andy shared what sort 741 00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:16,890 of his vision was and he's been in, he's like, og podcaster. You 742 00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:20,550 know, he's done so much. And in in the podcasting space, and 743 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:24,780 really cares about the news is passionate about the news. And, 744 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:27,240 you know, they, they had this idea, and they told me what the 745 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:30,150 idea was, and they're like, you know, do you want to help us 746 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:33,090 build? And I'm like, obviously, yes, this is amazing. This is 747 00:43:33,090 --> 00:43:36,720 really cool. Because it really takes it takes podcasting in a 748 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,810 direction that I feel like it always should have been going in 749 00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:42,300 but it but because the technology maybe wasn't there or 750 00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,960 whatever. But that is the immediacy of news, the urgency 751 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,990 of news and, and what's really cool that I think, Adam, you 752 00:43:48,990 --> 00:43:52,740 would like that behind the scenes. You know, we talked a 753 00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:57,300 lot about this concept of defining truth at a specific 754 00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:03,510 moment in time. And what we have built into this system is that 755 00:44:03,570 --> 00:44:08,190 the news as it's being reported, essentially, in fact, should be 756 00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:12,120 almost immutable. So you have almost almost this concept of a 757 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,950 blockchain Nish SNESs in a way in that it what what it lets you 758 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:19,560 do is when when you're updating a news story, the previous 759 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,770 version of that news story is preserved. So you have these 760 00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:25,710 different versions in any update creates automatically. 761 00:44:26,099 --> 00:44:29,909 No, no, no, no news organization wants to have that they want to 762 00:44:29,909 --> 00:44:32,039 be able to delete delete the shit that they know 763 00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,379 and get rid of. We don't want that. That's the 764 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:36,750 but the thing is 1984 765 00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:39,870 I can't have I know but isn't. Wouldn't that be great if you 766 00:44:39,870 --> 00:44:43,320 could hold people accountable to the stuff that they said? They 767 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:43,440 were 768 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:50,190 there, Dan? I want your venture to be successful man. Listen to 769 00:44:50,190 --> 00:44:54,720 your uncle Adam. Now on this one. We I'd love to support you. 770 00:44:54,750 --> 00:45:00,420 It sounds and I like James. I secretly I had the feeling He 771 00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:03,090 felt that podcasting was in good hands and he could leave and let 772 00:45:03,090 --> 00:45:07,110 Apple go fuck it up. Which, yeah, and that's I've always 773 00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:10,440 felt like okay, the Curry's is crazy guy, but I think we're 774 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,810 safe there with podcasting in general. And it's nice to see 775 00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:19,200 when Axel Springer who invested in the venture, they're serious 776 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,070 people that you know, that's not that's not a venture capital 777 00:45:23,070 --> 00:45:26,550 play. That's that's a real that's a real organization 778 00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:30,450 broadcast organization that understands this news, etc. Now, 779 00:45:30,450 --> 00:45:33,390 I will say like Russian to the Germans do always want their 780 00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:35,310 money back. So beware. 781 00:45:38,909 --> 00:45:42,989 I'm looking at the podcast feed forum in my right and in 782 00:45:42,989 --> 00:45:46,199 understanding that there's only one feed right now. 783 00:45:46,349 --> 00:45:49,829 Correct. There is there is a refresh. Mm hmm. That is the 784 00:45:49,859 --> 00:45:54,299 that is the big show that has come out of of the Insider. And 785 00:45:54,299 --> 00:45:57,329 that was our they're the first folks that we're working with. 786 00:45:57,329 --> 00:46:01,949 But there the plan, of course, would be to have every, you 787 00:46:01,949 --> 00:46:04,799 know, every news organization in the world should want to do 788 00:46:04,799 --> 00:46:07,709 this. So they should all come in, come to us and say we want 789 00:46:07,709 --> 00:46:11,189 that. And you know, and then we can we can come out. 790 00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,849 Okay, so then I'm looking at the feed right now. And what I'm 791 00:46:14,849 --> 00:46:18,749 seeing is there's so when let's just take this one, for 792 00:46:18,749 --> 00:46:22,709 instance, march 4, Final Edition, must sets blah, blah, 793 00:46:22,709 --> 00:46:27,569 blah, the title, this item, if if this gets updated with new 794 00:46:27,569 --> 00:46:32,249 audio, is what in this item is going to change the GU ID or 795 00:46:32,249 --> 00:46:35,189 just the or decal enclosure? Or is there anything visible that 796 00:46:35,189 --> 00:46:35,729 changes? 797 00:46:35,969 --> 00:46:40,169 They would probably also change the title. Because they you 798 00:46:40,169 --> 00:46:42,599 know, there's technically you wouldn't have to change the 799 00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,479 title, but they typically are so with each update the way that 800 00:46:45,479 --> 00:46:48,059 they're doing it is I think they're releasing, you know, a 801 00:46:48,059 --> 00:46:51,389 handful throughout the day. And I think that, you know, you 802 00:46:51,389 --> 00:46:54,959 know, Will Will it become hourly? I think it could. But 803 00:46:54,989 --> 00:46:59,519 you know, it's definitely multiple, multiple per day. And 804 00:46:59,789 --> 00:47:02,699 they typically will change the title. So depending on how you 805 00:47:02,699 --> 00:47:04,949 wanted to do it, you might have a morning edition afternoon or 806 00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:07,649 an evening, what they call the final addition, for the day 807 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,070 two, this will be so sexy with chapters with links and 808 00:47:11,070 --> 00:47:16,140 transcripts. Oh sexy that your your customers will love that. 809 00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:17,820 I would hope so. Yeah. 810 00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:20,430 So do you have customers yet? You have you have customers in 811 00:47:20,430 --> 00:47:21,690 the door? Oh, 812 00:47:21,930 --> 00:47:26,220 you know, I can't NDA about it. I can't talk about but yes. I 813 00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:29,310 mean, yes. There's a lot of there's tremendous, tremendous 814 00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:31,410 and shocking, shocking interest. 815 00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:35,730 Okay, calm calm down. You're doing it. You're overshadowing 816 00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:39,540 me, you're overdoing it now. Damn. It, yes. 817 00:47:39,659 --> 00:47:47,879 Now. Okay. Now, so the URL of the enclosure does not change. 818 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,160 It does when a new episode is updated. So that needs a new new 819 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,870 file name in the case so that it would would change to if they if 820 00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:01,470 they wanted it to. And there's, you know, it's unfortunate that 821 00:48:01,470 --> 00:48:04,410 that's the only real mechanism that we have. That's the only 822 00:48:04,410 --> 00:48:04,710 way that 823 00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:09,600 pod ping brother. That's why pod pig is perfect for this. So if 824 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,150 and all your publishers need to hit pod ping, and then you're 825 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:12,630 done. 826 00:48:12,989 --> 00:48:16,019 So if we have if we have pod bacon going and we don't update 827 00:48:16,019 --> 00:48:19,289 the grid, I don't know maybe the file name updates, will that 828 00:48:19,289 --> 00:48:23,849 cause an redownload to happen in NUS compliant nines? 829 00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:28,349 No? Well, it will, it will tell comply, it will tell anybody 830 00:48:28,349 --> 00:48:32,639 watching the piping, Blockchain activity, it will tell them that 831 00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:35,459 something in the feed changed. And they need to go figure out 832 00:48:35,459 --> 00:48:39,059 what it is right. So let's get going. We'll get going. Yeah, 833 00:48:39,059 --> 00:48:43,769 the way we would do it is going to be that if if the title 834 00:48:43,769 --> 00:48:47,069 changes, or the feed route URL changes, or the pub date 835 00:48:47,069 --> 00:48:51,029 changes, anything other than description, because description 836 00:48:51,389 --> 00:48:54,299 can be dynamic, and it doesn't mean that anything substantive 837 00:48:54,299 --> 00:48:59,399 changed. So if any of those other fields, title gwit, 838 00:48:59,429 --> 00:49:02,519 obviously enclosure and pub date, any of that jazz, if any 839 00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:06,959 of that image, URL, any of that changes, we'll get we'll get the 840 00:49:06,959 --> 00:49:07,589 new copy. 841 00:49:07,620 --> 00:49:12,000 Correct, but can't but can't pod ping signal. Hey, update to XYZ, 842 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,080 here's what you got to do. 843 00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:16,620 Well, here's here's what, here's what I want to ask you about 844 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:22,920 that specific thing. Dan, is that, like, is there a live 845 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,400 component is going to be part of spooler? 846 00:49:27,179 --> 00:49:30,059 I mean, I, I think I would like to build that that's not 847 00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,729 something we're talking about a lot. But I would I would love to 848 00:49:32,729 --> 00:49:33,029 okay, 849 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,040 because that that's, it makes that seems to be the logical 850 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,580 next thing you think of is like if you're, if it's sort of like 851 00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:45,960 this rapid news update thing, then you would think that there 852 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,350 might be a sort of live component where it's like, okay, 853 00:49:49,350 --> 00:49:52,110 I can go live now. And yeah, here's the thing. Here's a 854 00:49:52,110 --> 00:49:55,380 broadcast and that will be you'll, when you finish it, it 855 00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:56,760 gets stitched into the audio. 856 00:49:56,789 --> 00:49:59,639 Yeah. Can I use that on our show yet? Dave? Is it almost ready? 857 00:49:59,999 --> 00:50:00,809 Yeah, yeah. Wait, 858 00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:01,650 I'm waiting on you. 859 00:50:01,710 --> 00:50:04,740 What do you mean? You're waiting on me? You told me. Don't Don't 860 00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:08,580 do that to me. Seriously? Yeah. What am I supposed to 861 00:50:08,579 --> 00:50:11,909 do? I think we're good to go. I don't know what to do. Yeah, but 862 00:50:12,209 --> 00:50:15,509 we get it. We get a cuddle and talk about Okay. 863 00:50:15,570 --> 00:50:18,000 All right. Well, you haven't been very cuddly lately, dear. 864 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,260 It's been a little annoying. I'm 865 00:50:19,290 --> 00:50:21,060 not the been the one. That's okay. 866 00:50:21,089 --> 00:50:24,929 Well, listen, I my job so I can feed this family. Okay. 867 00:50:30,690 --> 00:50:34,470 There's a lot of love in the room. That's very exciting. Dan, 868 00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:37,890 I look forward to us integrating with that. That'll be very cool. 869 00:50:38,010 --> 00:50:41,790 Have you gotten into value for value at all? And not related to 870 00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:47,040 spooler? But just podcasts and into boosting and streaming? 871 00:50:47,519 --> 00:50:50,249 going, Man, I think that's where everything is going. I think. 872 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,829 Could you could you could you rephrase that and say, I'm 873 00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:57,119 shocked at the interest. It's just outrageous. It's 874 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,689 insane. What kind of interest there is right now and value for 875 00:51:00,689 --> 00:51:02,459 value? I'm seeing it everywhere 876 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:03,990 I go. I love you, man. 877 00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:07,589 Yeah, have you a future way of the future? 878 00:51:07,590 --> 00:51:09,360 Have you used it yourself at all? 879 00:51:10,289 --> 00:51:15,179 Not in as effective as a way as you do. But I have one show now 880 00:51:15,179 --> 00:51:17,819 that's completely listener supported and I would I would 881 00:51:17,819 --> 00:51:21,269 prefer to only do listener support on a personal level. 882 00:51:21,569 --> 00:51:25,859 Only doing listener supported only only doing things where we 883 00:51:25,859 --> 00:51:28,649 have direct engagement and involvement with the audience. 884 00:51:28,649 --> 00:51:31,289 It's so much better even if it means I make less or even if it 885 00:51:31,289 --> 00:51:34,709 means I make very little I think it's worth it because it'd be 886 00:51:34,709 --> 00:51:34,829 you 887 00:51:34,829 --> 00:51:38,369 don't that's the thing. Well, the really doesn't matter. And 888 00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:41,219 with the booster grams, people going nuts. It's really 889 00:51:41,219 --> 00:51:44,639 interesting. It's we transitioned, except for our 890 00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,909 monthly pay pals. And you know, we have two larger, larger 891 00:51:47,909 --> 00:51:53,939 donors, Mark, overcast and Buzzsprout. I think the 892 00:51:53,939 --> 00:51:57,479 transition to streaming SATs and boosting has been pretty good 893 00:51:57,479 --> 00:52:01,349 actually. We probably it's a little lower overall, but but 894 00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:05,729 people there's more people doing it. And in hell kind of froze 895 00:52:05,729 --> 00:52:09,479 over. I actually opened a channel to Todd Cochran node 896 00:52:09,479 --> 00:52:14,489 today. Really? I didn't expect that to happen. Yeah, he built 897 00:52:14,489 --> 00:52:17,279 himself. did he build his own node? Yeah, he's 898 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,630 got a Raspberry Pi with an M with an umbrella. Yeah. That's 899 00:52:21,630 --> 00:52:24,870 pretty cool. Why don't you? Why don't you have an umbrella? And 900 00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:27,480 I mean, Raspberry Pi on a lightning node and stuff. Dan, 901 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,870 me You're, you're such a geek, you would love that. Yeah. You 902 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,670 totally love playing with that stuff. I would love to get it 903 00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:37,590 with all your spare time with all your spare time. 904 00:52:37,619 --> 00:52:40,169 Yeah, that's that's the only problem. That's a problem. 905 00:52:41,429 --> 00:52:52,199 Yeah, I am. So go ahead. No, she is so from this new this from 906 00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:57,959 from this new product? What? What has jumped out at you? And 907 00:52:57,959 --> 00:53:03,359 this is the other big question I want to ask of, of what? I don't 908 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:08,789 want to phrase this. What have you seen that would make it what 909 00:53:08,789 --> 00:53:15,659 tags? Or what new things in the feed? Can we build that would 910 00:53:15,659 --> 00:53:20,969 help you to more to more realize this vision that spooler wants 911 00:53:20,969 --> 00:53:21,449 to do? 912 00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,719 That's a great question. Because, you know, like I 913 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,449 mentioned earlier to power the player, the player has little, 914 00:53:27,539 --> 00:53:32,549 you know, it's essentially like a mini podcast app in a way in 915 00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:36,899 that, you know, we can pull data, we can do things right now 916 00:53:36,899 --> 00:53:41,369 delivered mainly over RSS. And I think, really, there isn't that 917 00:53:41,369 --> 00:53:45,869 much that that is in that that's in there that we want at this 918 00:53:45,869 --> 00:53:51,329 point. But But what I can see down the road, when when I think 919 00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:54,029 about this, I think about personalization, like how cool 920 00:53:54,029 --> 00:53:58,679 would it be, if I could say I want this kind of news this way? 921 00:53:58,949 --> 00:54:03,209 You know, how do we how do we add that layer to it. And I 922 00:54:03,209 --> 00:54:05,669 don't know if that's something that you guys can, you know, can 923 00:54:05,669 --> 00:54:07,829 build in and can help with? Or if it's just something that I 924 00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:11,609 think about a lot because, as you you know, like, if you look 925 00:54:11,609 --> 00:54:14,039 at what happened with the cable companies, how they basically 926 00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:16,319 said, this is the cable plan, like you can have this and you 927 00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:19,829 can add HBO and that's like it to what we have now, which is 928 00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:22,229 well I like the Disney plus stuff. So I'm going to get 929 00:54:22,229 --> 00:54:24,779 Disney plus or I like what HBO is offering. And now we're 930 00:54:24,809 --> 00:54:27,419 having to pick and choose from all these different companies. 931 00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:31,439 It's it's almost like like that in a way from the podcasting 932 00:54:31,439 --> 00:54:33,929 standpoint. If you could say I just want this content, or I 933 00:54:33,929 --> 00:54:36,179 want this content from here and this content from here and this 934 00:54:36,179 --> 00:54:39,239 content from here and imagine it all coming together and in one 935 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,869 place. That's kind of what we want except right now we're 936 00:54:42,869 --> 00:54:46,079 having to get it from all these these different sources. I don't 937 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,899 know really, if it's talking but I'm thinking about better 938 00:54:48,899 --> 00:54:52,079 attribution if there's a better way than just the author tags 939 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,379 but credit for writing credits, you know, I'm saying something 940 00:54:55,379 --> 00:54:59,279 that allows if, if you have an episode of a show that might 941 00:54:59,279 --> 00:55:02,159 pull content from lots of different places, I feel like 942 00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:05,729 attribution is going to be more and more and more important over 943 00:55:05,729 --> 00:55:07,889 time. So along those lines 944 00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:10,710 tool that brings up a couple of things in my mind, we've got, 945 00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:14,490 we've got a few different proposals. And these, we hit a 946 00:55:14,490 --> 00:55:16,770 lot of easy stuff in the beginning of the namespace. So a 947 00:55:16,770 --> 00:55:19,980 lot of and I say, easy in quotes, what I really mean by 948 00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:23,850 easy is that they were sort of obvious. I mean, you had things 949 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,240 low hanging fruit, low hanging fruit, yeah, chapters, and you 950 00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:33,660 had things like pride, like a license tag meeting things like 951 00:55:33,660 --> 00:55:37,350 this, this like, Okay, well, fine. But then, as we go 952 00:55:37,350 --> 00:55:39,870 forward, hitting the harder things, the things that take 953 00:55:39,870 --> 00:55:43,140 longer to build, and they need schema, and they need protocol. 954 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,080 And so like things like the cross app comments and all that 955 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,940 jazz, here, one thing, there's a few of these types of things 956 00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:55,710 that have been banned, you know, thrown around. One is podcast 957 00:55:55,710 --> 00:55:58,770 related. And I think Alex gates brought that up, and sort of 958 00:55:58,770 --> 00:56:03,480 this would be a tag, a related tag, which was, okay, this, this 959 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,870 episode of this podcast is related to this other episode of 960 00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:12,510 potentially this other podcast. And basically a way to reference 961 00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:17,430 other material in other podcasts within a certain feed item. 962 00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:20,970 There's, there's that idea. And 963 00:56:20,970 --> 00:56:23,430 that would be that was kind of designed more for the mythical 964 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:24,360 discovery. 965 00:56:26,190 --> 00:56:29,310 I think it's more than that. Because like in this was defined 966 00:56:29,310 --> 00:56:35,850 in the context of being able, so if you have a live item, if 967 00:56:35,850 --> 00:56:39,660 somebody goes live, and you have a live item in the feed that 968 00:56:39,660 --> 00:56:43,950 live item ins, well, then you may also want to then publish 969 00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:46,590 another item, that's exactly the same thing. So here would be the 970 00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:51,120 flow, it would be, you go live, they listen to your app, and 971 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,230 it's live. And then that live stream ends, will then then the 972 00:56:55,260 --> 00:56:58,950 podcaster, goes back edits, the edits the audio down into a 973 00:56:58,950 --> 00:57:04,020 published state, publishes it as an item. And now you could 974 00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:07,380 potentially, if the podcaster wanted this, you could have both 975 00:57:07,380 --> 00:57:11,160 in the feed, you can have the live unedited raw version in the 976 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,060 published version. So this is sort of like a studio track and 977 00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:19,380 a live track. And they can both be in the feed. And in that 978 00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:22,020 point, you would want to say you'd want to be able to connect 979 00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:26,550 them somehow to let the app and the user know, these, these are 980 00:57:26,550 --> 00:57:29,820 two versions of what is essentially the same thing. 981 00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:33,630 Right. So that's really, that's the related idea that you would 982 00:57:33,630 --> 00:57:39,300 say, Okay, this is related to this other item in this way. So 983 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:43,110 I could see something there, if we flesh that out. And that 984 00:57:43,110 --> 00:57:47,670 becomes as it gets more feet to it, that those sort of 985 00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:54,300 connectors between items, might be a way to go and do that. Then 986 00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:59,280 there's this other notion that that Tom and Kevin came up with 987 00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,700 of channels. And these words, they're sort of like thinking 988 00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:06,540 along the lines of part of the new Apple podcast, ecosystem 989 00:58:06,540 --> 00:58:10,830 channel concept. But but really not so much. Just that channel 990 00:58:10,830 --> 00:58:13,710 concept within Apple is tied really to subscriptions a lot. 991 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,120 So those are more like networks. The these are the channels would 992 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,530 be more like groupings of related shows. For any reason, 993 00:58:22,530 --> 00:58:27,270 not just because somebody's got a network. And a wonder, I mean, 994 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:32,670 that's one of the some things like that may address some, do 995 00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:34,080 you think that would address some of what you're thinking 996 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,350 about? 997 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,900 I do? Yeah, I think that's a really neat way to do it. And I 998 00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:39,780 absolutely love the idea of the live stuff. And I could actually 999 00:58:39,780 --> 00:58:43,620 see, oh, you know, just like y'all doing broadcast 1000 00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:46,140 journalism, where you have someone introducing something 1001 00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,450 live, and then you've got the package that's already been 1002 00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:50,940 made, you know, I could see something like that working too. 1003 00:58:50,970 --> 00:58:53,610 I think it's there's a lot of potential, a lot of potential, 1004 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:59,070 I was thinking about namespace tags. And in the context of the 1005 00:58:59,070 --> 00:59:02,490 last board meeting, where we were talking about claim codes, 1006 00:59:03,210 --> 00:59:06,750 and it kind of dawned on me, that everything that's that you 1007 00:59:06,750 --> 00:59:10,740 need to claim code for, should almost by default, be a 1008 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:15,180 namespace tag. of almost all these companies are adding some 1009 00:59:15,180 --> 00:59:20,370 value, but only within their own, sometimes fully, sometimes 1010 00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:24,900 semi walled garden. There's no benefit to all the podcast apps. 1011 00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:28,560 But you know, when it comes to comments, ratings, all these 1012 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720 different things, that's all it's all versions of the same 1013 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,960 thing. It should all what do you think Dave? mentum it's it seems 1014 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,450 to me like you should never have to go claim something for a 1015 00:59:36,450 --> 00:59:40,800 service you should be able to put you know, that information 1016 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,900 should be able to be handled in a decentralized way and and the 1017 00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:48,570 namespace tags does that in most cases, I think 1018 00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:51,299 yeah, I mean, 1019 00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:55,440 I'm not I'm not I'm not saying you know, remove, remove other 1020 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,380 companies, etc. But a lot of these things that that these 1021 00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:01,650 companies offer, as I get Because I get spammed because my 1022 01:00:01,650 --> 01:00:05,280 email addresses in the feed. I'm like, Well, yeah, you know, we 1023 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,640 can do? 1024 01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:09,539 Well, the thing that pops up first, I mean that we, you have 1025 01:00:09,539 --> 01:00:14,009 to do sort of a claim process with podcast and washer. And 1026 01:00:14,009 --> 01:00:16,079 that that is well that 1027 01:00:16,110 --> 01:00:19,140 I'm separate. I'm sorry, I don't mean to bring up the 1028 01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,570 authentication part because I'm in agreement with you there. I 1029 01:00:21,570 --> 01:00:22,320 have no problem. 1030 01:00:22,769 --> 01:00:25,739 Okay, so you're separating, you're separating ownership from 1031 01:00:25,739 --> 01:00:27,749 authentication somehow, or I'm or 1032 01:00:27,780 --> 01:00:31,230 what I'm saying is most of the places where you are asked to 1033 01:00:31,230 --> 01:00:35,910 authenticate are features that should be in the namespace. 1034 01:00:35,969 --> 01:00:38,459 Oh, okay. I understand. Because so what you're saying like in 1035 01:00:38,459 --> 01:00:41,459 our ours is, would be a good example of that. So we were, you 1036 01:00:41,459 --> 01:00:45,509 know, you're claiming, claiming your feed on podcast or wallet, 1037 01:00:45,509 --> 01:00:48,299 and then you and then we hold the value tags, since you can't 1038 01:00:48,299 --> 01:00:51,809 put in your feed yourself. But really, you should be putting in 1039 01:00:51,809 --> 01:00:53,969 in your feed yourself. Yes. Okay. 1040 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,400 Exactly. Exactly. But, yeah, so Well, precisely. And as we, I 1041 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,690 think those types of shim companies, who also again, can 1042 01:01:03,690 --> 01:01:07,260 be incentivized through the value for value streaming, 1043 01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:13,770 distribution. You know, that that's the way forward in even 1044 01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:17,040 if the if these companies go off and do their own thing, I think 1045 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,560 we should always be looking at what are the features people are 1046 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,950 strapping onto their feed? And can we put it in a namespace 1047 01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:23,340 tag? 1048 01:01:25,110 --> 01:01:30,240 Yeah, next is what watching what? Watching what the industry 1049 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,490 for lack of a better term, watching what people are seeing 1050 01:01:33,390 --> 01:01:36,600 what they need? And then okay, how can we do this in a way 1051 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,580 where people don't have to have some Yeah, 1052 01:01:38,609 --> 01:01:41,729 it helps all those companies with those great ideas to get 1053 01:01:41,729 --> 01:01:44,309 into all the apps with whatever they're offering. 1054 01:01:45,690 --> 01:01:49,500 Yeah, that makes sense. It does. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. 1055 01:01:50,250 --> 01:01:54,330 Because you can see that you made it if if enough people need 1056 01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:58,200 it, then just make it where it can be canonical within the 1057 01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:58,590 fetus. 1058 01:01:58,620 --> 01:02:02,790 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's a V there. Have you seen this 1059 01:02:02,820 --> 01:02:04,290 impervious browser? 1060 01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,379 Not even heard of it? No. 1061 01:02:08,130 --> 01:02:10,470 So someone sent me this. It's the Impaler 1062 01:02:10,469 --> 01:02:13,019 pro the impervious.ai. Right. Yeah, 1063 01:02:13,049 --> 01:02:15,839 that's the same P Yeah, I have seen that thing. So the 1064 01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:19,559 impervious browser will be launched publicly, April 7 1065 01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:22,949 During the Bitcoin 2220 22 conference in Miami. 1066 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,840 Oh, no. Okay, let me let me try to describe to you what this is. 1067 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,010 And you'll tell me if I'm, if I'm even close. All right. This 1068 01:02:32,010 --> 01:02:37,440 is just from the name. This is something that is going to try 1069 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:43,590 to be like Tor. Oh, and it's going to go pump all of your 1070 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,510 browser requests through the Lightning Network. No. Okay. I 1071 01:02:48,510 --> 01:02:50,040 don't think so. Take all that back. 1072 01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:53,549 Okay, I'm reading from their press release. And it's quite 1073 01:02:53,549 --> 01:02:57,419 detailed actually what they have features zoom without zoom 1074 01:02:57,419 --> 01:03:00,449 Google Docs without Google medium without medium WhatsApp, 1075 01:03:00,449 --> 01:03:03,389 without WhatsApp payments without banks identity without 1076 01:03:03,389 --> 01:03:06,659 the state all without centralized intermediaries built 1077 01:03:06,659 --> 01:03:13,409 into the impervious browser. So they have secure peer to peer 1078 01:03:13,409 --> 01:03:18,299 messaging. They have peer to peer web RTC data channels for 1079 01:03:18,299 --> 01:03:22,739 audio and video calls, then they have the decentralized local 1080 01:03:22,739 --> 01:03:25,799 storage is interesting. And files can be encrypted and 1081 01:03:25,799 --> 01:03:28,319 stored locally, both the browser designated encrypted system 1082 01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:31,679 database can be published to an anonymous publicly accessible 1083 01:03:31,739 --> 01:03:36,209 decentralized data store IPFS IPFS managed automatically fully 1084 01:03:36,209 --> 01:03:40,049 integrated into the underlying impervious Damon, files 1085 01:03:40,049 --> 01:03:43,799 published IP Fs can be universally accessed via IP NS 1086 01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:46,709 and persistent link, you know, they have they've they've 1087 01:03:47,279 --> 01:03:52,979 connected all of the you know, the API payments for API for 1088 01:03:52,979 --> 01:03:59,399 IPFS, hosting, etc. I mean, this thing is, it's really it's quite 1089 01:03:59,999 --> 01:04:04,169 amazing. It's so the whole idea is everything is decentralized. 1090 01:04:04,709 --> 01:04:09,539 And we've thrown in. They have API's to the Lightning Network. 1091 01:04:09,659 --> 01:04:13,049 So there's no mention how that works. I'm sure there's 1092 01:04:13,319 --> 01:04:17,249 somewhere someone's doing wallets stuff somewhere. But it 1093 01:04:17,249 --> 01:04:20,519 seems like they're really like it might be a leap forward in 1094 01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:22,079 decentralized everything. 1095 01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:27,000 Just looking through this could be interesting. 1096 01:04:28,019 --> 01:04:31,169 You know, especially if it's based on, you know, chromium or 1097 01:04:31,169 --> 01:04:34,169 whatever, you know, if it's a modern browser, but I bet it is. 1098 01:04:34,769 --> 01:04:37,709 Just I just looked at this and like, well, that's kind of I 1099 01:04:37,709 --> 01:04:40,199 mean, that's kind of all the things we need. 1100 01:04:41,010 --> 01:04:44,250 Built in IPFS pinning services allow for persistence, all 1101 01:04:44,250 --> 01:04:48,990 availability, even when a user's IPFS node is offline. Man, I 1102 01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:52,109 appreciate ya way and verified lightning invoices send and 1103 01:04:52,109 --> 01:04:56,099 receive lightning keys and payments. Create pay to play 1104 01:04:56,099 --> 01:04:58,619 links, prompting peers to fulfill a key exchange or 1105 01:04:58,619 --> 01:05:02,129 lightning invoice invoice. To view premium content, Port 1106 01:05:02,129 --> 01:05:05,489 existing audiences to bolster subscription content revenue 1107 01:05:05,489 --> 01:05:08,429 resiliency well that's a marketing jargon jargon right 1108 01:05:08,429 --> 01:05:12,359 there. offer goods and services via linked associate links 1109 01:05:12,359 --> 01:05:15,359 associated with well that's like airline URL. I mean, so they do 1110 01:05:15,359 --> 01:05:21,809 have a lot of interest here store. What was the since? I 1111 01:05:21,809 --> 01:05:25,589 don't know, I want I'm kind of I'm semi excited about this. 1112 01:05:26,699 --> 01:05:31,559 Yeah, well, I want to see the slides released in April and not 1113 01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:35,639 heard about this decentralized identifiers. Di D coms that 1114 01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:38,579 there's there's been a few things in here that I've never 1115 01:05:38,999 --> 01:05:43,859 done. I've never seen these words before. Such as, like di D 1116 01:05:43,859 --> 01:05:45,659 calm. What is the D O. That's 1117 01:05:45,689 --> 01:05:50,159 just decentralized identifiers. So your you can identify 1118 01:05:50,159 --> 01:05:57,569 yourself with your key. For longest like you're really you 1119 01:05:57,569 --> 01:06:00,239 really hemming and hawing on this one Dave doesn't sound like 1120 01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:05,039 you're really like, don't impress me much. Okay. No, 1121 01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:05,339 that's 1122 01:06:05,339 --> 01:06:07,649 I'm not saying no, it's not that it's not impressive. I did I 1123 01:06:07,649 --> 01:06:10,109 need. I'm caught off guard about this, because I don't. 1124 01:06:10,650 --> 01:06:16,680 I saw was I saw, I saw, Wow, the goal is to allow I guess, to 1125 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:22,290 allow everyone to publish, blogs, the podcasts, etc. 1126 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,070 Without hosting companies. And with revenue streams built in? I 1127 01:06:26,070 --> 01:06:26,550 guess. 1128 01:06:32,429 --> 01:06:36,359 I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical. This This sounds like because 1129 01:06:36,359 --> 01:06:41,219 impervious.ai is the ones that. Now I'm not trying to say this 1130 01:06:41,219 --> 01:06:43,169 is all they do. But I know they've done multiple 1131 01:06:43,169 --> 01:06:46,139 experiments with pushing things through the Lightning Network. 1132 01:06:46,379 --> 01:06:48,569 Like they're the ones that did that thing where they delivered 1133 01:06:48,569 --> 01:06:53,579 on a podcast, or mp3, through light through lightning channel. 1134 01:06:53,609 --> 01:06:53,819 Oh, I 1135 01:06:53,820 --> 01:06:56,100 didn't know that it happened. That's a horrible thing to think 1136 01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:59,010 of. That's awful. It's awful. And I kind of look what kind of 1137 01:06:59,010 --> 01:07:02,460 channel liquidity do you need for 100 megabyte file? 1138 01:07:02,909 --> 01:07:06,959 I don't know. But it sounds like a horrible thing to do is um, my 1139 01:07:06,959 --> 01:07:08,789 first thought is, oh, that's what 1140 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,120 not doesn't seem. It doesn't seem to be that. Well, we'll 1141 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,030 see. I mean, I'm okay. I just love all of these, you know, 1142 01:07:15,030 --> 01:07:19,500 self hosting homes, things that are popping up and we're going 1143 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,710 with the best will rise to the top, no doubt. 1144 01:07:23,309 --> 01:07:27,239 Do you do any of that? Dan, do you do anything like ownCloud? 1145 01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:28,379 Or any of that jazz? 1146 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,330 No, no, I'm not really doing that. 1147 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,630 Oh, man. I love your cloud. I love my next cloud. 1148 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,800 It's not something you've ever gotten into is the is the whole 1149 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,480 self sort of self hosting 1150 01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:42,270 thing. Oh, no. I mean, that's exactly what I used to do. For 1151 01:07:42,270 --> 01:07:45,960 years, I used to run an internet hosting company out of my spare 1152 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,930 bedroom in my apartment. I mean, no matter like you personally 1153 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,680 No, but I'm saying like I always used to do the personal stuff 1154 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,760 and have control and do the self hosting and all of that and I 1155 01:07:56,790 --> 01:08:00,270 just kind of got you got get you got captured you get you You 1156 01:08:00,270 --> 01:08:03,150 gave it to the man and gave it to the man I guess I mean, like, 1157 01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:06,810 would running. I mean, I have a Synology I could share stuff off 1158 01:08:06,810 --> 01:08:11,280 of I guess. You want me to do you want me to do next cloud? Is 1159 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,240 that what you're trying to? No, 1160 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,640 no, I'm just what I'm just wondering how committed you are 1161 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,150 like if you're on the but you know, we're on that tip. When 1162 01:08:18,150 --> 01:08:21,090 we get when you get an Umbral and you look at that app store, 1163 01:08:21,150 --> 01:08:24,240 there's just things in there that are just groovy little 1164 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,780 toys, you know, like the next cloud that sets up the instance 1165 01:08:27,780 --> 01:08:33,060 for you. You know, this is I don't know this, it's piehole. 1166 01:08:33,090 --> 01:08:37,050 And you can run it from any device. They've got the VPN, the 1167 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,620 tail scale, there's, it's it's kind of getting there. I'm 1168 01:08:40,620 --> 01:08:42,330 feeling this. I'm feeling this. 1169 01:08:42,510 --> 01:08:50,190 Yeah, I hear you. Say you say seriously, go look at I have the 1170 01:08:50,190 --> 01:08:54,180 next cloud site open right here. Your career gain control the 1171 01:08:54,180 --> 01:08:56,910 self hosted productivity platform. It keeps you in 1172 01:08:56,910 --> 01:08:58,740 control by next cloud. Now. 1173 01:08:58,769 --> 01:09:01,859 What we need is we need Dan just to be around us wherever we go. 1174 01:09:01,859 --> 01:09:04,199 Dave So you can just say hallelujah, that's right on. 1175 01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:04,739 Aha. 1176 01:09:05,369 --> 01:09:07,469 They call it a hype man. Yes, exactly. 1177 01:09:07,469 --> 01:09:10,439 Yes, we are hype man. You can do that. You're good at that. And 1178 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,839 then we'll do I'll do it for you that free I'll do it for you. No 1179 01:09:12,839 --> 01:09:15,149 problem. Should we thank some people Dave. 1180 01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:20,040 Oh, yeah, sure. You get time to stick around while we'd love to 1181 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,570 do that. Oh, awesome. 1182 01:09:21,750 --> 01:09:26,970 So this is a value for value. Project as we would say in 1183 01:09:26,970 --> 01:09:31,980 Canada. We talk to subgradient road it's a great project pro J 1184 01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:35,220 to project now I don't do a jokes anymore after that truck. 1185 01:09:35,730 --> 01:09:40,650 That trucker thing I got respect for him. Like I love it. I know 1186 01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:44,940 but I'm showing even I'm giving them more love. Okay, but I will 1187 01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:49,950 I will mess with project to this project. Podcasting. 2.0 is 1188 01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:53,850 completely value for value, which means only if you think 1189 01:09:53,850 --> 01:09:56,970 you get any value out of it. Then you need to put some back 1190 01:09:56,970 --> 01:09:59,910 in that can be with one of the three T's time talent treasure 1191 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,730 We need treasure to keep the machines spinning, keep 1192 01:10:02,730 --> 01:10:06,690 everything worrying, worrying. We worry enough but to worrying 1193 01:10:06,690 --> 01:10:10,650 with an eye. And you can do that by going to podcast index.org. 1194 01:10:10,650 --> 01:10:13,260 There's a link at the bottom Big Red donate button, you can hit 1195 01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:17,670 that. And is the QR code for Bitcoin on chain up there yet? 1196 01:10:18,150 --> 01:10:21,570 Yeah, on the site. Yeah, that's on there that tally coin. Oh, 1197 01:10:21,570 --> 01:10:24,690 the tally coin. Yeah, perfect. Or you can get a modern podcast 1198 01:10:24,690 --> 01:10:27,540 app, but new podcast apps calm and boost to your heart's 1199 01:10:27,540 --> 01:10:31,260 content, send a message. We love reading them as well. And it's 1200 01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:33,360 also just a great way to continuously support the 1201 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,200 Podcast, the podcast app that you're using, because we have 1202 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,940 the distributed digital royalty system of the value block 1203 01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:45,270 splits. And you also help podcasts index with that, and we 1204 01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:47,700 highly appreciate it. So we're gonna thank some of these people 1205 01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:48,000 now. 1206 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,930 Yeah, well, this, this show is pretty much owned by Dred Scott. 1207 01:10:51,930 --> 01:10:55,530 I'm going to tell you that up front. Oh, all our big baller. 1208 01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:58,650 He's hiding from his wife in the closet and sending out and just 1209 01:10:58,650 --> 01:10:59,730 giving all their money away. 1210 01:11:01,170 --> 01:11:05,100 He did a round man he did around he did. He did a big ball around 1211 01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:07,740 Moe facts, no agenda. And now tell us 1212 01:11:08,460 --> 01:11:13,260 if he if if Dan had at a lightning enabled podcast, he 1213 01:11:13,260 --> 01:11:15,600 would have been in there too, but Dred Scott would have thrown 1214 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:21,810 stats at him. That's right. That's right. Dred Scott $345.67 1215 01:11:21,810 --> 01:11:22,530 through PayPal 1216 01:11:22,620 --> 01:11:29,550 Bala shot 20 blades on the Impala Whoa, Dread thank you 1217 01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:35,100 that I was talking about drab again last night with Tina. She 1218 01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:40,680 says cuz I said drip donated $345.67 to no agenda. And and he 1219 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,950 did it for podcasting. 2.0 and for mo faxes. What does this guy 1220 01:11:43,950 --> 01:11:48,060 do? I said what was she she doesn't listen she listens to 1221 01:11:48,090 --> 01:11:51,300 almost everything I do this one she doesn't listen to I said 1222 01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:54,240 Don't you know that he's the Bruce Wayne of podcasting 2.0 1223 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,120 He's an heir to a billion dollars he has a Batcave the 1224 01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,020 whole thing any any any in his cave. He does chapters to help 1225 01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:04,800 people and then he's giving away his fortune bit by bit. Satoshi 1226 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:11,820 by Satoshi. She says what really? Yeah, are the 1227 01:12:11,850 --> 01:12:14,850 bill The Bill Gates, they give all your stuff away? Yeah, yeah. 1228 01:12:14,850 --> 01:12:15,030 The 1229 01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:18,570 war the Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett give all your money 1230 01:12:18,570 --> 01:12:21,720 away. Thank you so much. Dr. This is so meaningful. Really 1231 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,250 appreciate you spin on tear man. Then don't don't kill yourself 1232 01:12:26,250 --> 01:12:28,560 on anything. It's just a horse. Like, Listen, I I get the 1233 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,740 chapters from mo facts under the other from no agenda tomorrow. 1234 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,600 It's like dude, anytime 1235 01:12:33,630 --> 01:12:35,190 it's cool. It's cool. Yeah, 1236 01:12:35,219 --> 01:12:37,469 any time we we understand. 1237 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,640 Get a message from some time. My my child's in the hospital for 1238 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,180 three minutes. 1239 01:12:42,810 --> 01:12:46,470 My house blew up my dog died. But I got the chapters ready. I 1240 01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:48,240 did it while in the ambulance. 1241 01:12:49,170 --> 01:12:54,240 Yes. drab says can I get a birthday shout out as my 1242 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,720 birthday is today. March the fourth? Yes. Yes. Well, 1243 01:12:57,750 --> 01:13:01,800 you know what? He needs what he needs. He needs a biscuit for 1244 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,930 his birthday. That's what he needs. They always 1245 01:13:03,930 --> 01:13:05,760 give me a biscuit on my birthday. 1246 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,310 Happy birthday. Happy birthday brother. 1247 01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:12,510 March 4, the only day of the year that gives a command a 1248 01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:15,570 march for exact Keep up the great 1249 01:13:15,570 --> 01:13:17,640 work in Drib in J and K. 1250 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,940 Thank you drive. That's really appreciated, man. 1251 01:13:22,980 --> 01:13:25,110 Let's see. And he gets the 1252 01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:29,580 SATs too. He gets 5% split on on all of my shows on the SATs. I 1253 01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:32,820 doubt I doubt he's receiving as much as he's putting in 1254 01:13:35,310 --> 01:13:39,810 Oh, now this is an interesting one. So we got this is $100 Pay 1255 01:13:39,810 --> 01:13:43,680 Pal through from cauldron entertainment. Oh cold cold 1256 01:13:43,710 --> 01:13:48,570 cauldron. This is now this is to you says it would see my booster 1257 01:13:48,570 --> 01:13:51,660 grams advertising my intimacy and relationship coaching 1258 01:13:51,690 --> 01:13:55,590 aggravated Adam with his comment that I am making the rounds. 1259 01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,360 Where you aggravated aggravated that's when comics for Blogger 1260 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,780 does oh this. I'm not aggravated by that at all. 1261 01:14:04,290 --> 01:14:06,780 No, not making the rounds means you're this is 1262 01:14:06,989 --> 01:14:11,309 this is the second this is the sex therapy a couple. Yeah, no, 1263 01:14:11,339 --> 01:14:12,299 no, this is 1264 01:14:12,570 --> 01:14:14,250 okay man knows these guys. 1265 01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:16,110 Let me just 1266 01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:18,750 let me just say tremendous interest what 1267 01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:22,860 I'm it's it's Shocking. Shocking how much interest there is for 1268 01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:26,220 this sector. What I like about it is you're one of the first 1269 01:14:26,220 --> 01:14:30,420 people to grasp the full potential of value for value. 1270 01:14:30,690 --> 01:14:33,390 You're sending us a cute message. We're laughing about 1271 01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:36,630 it. People are hearing about the service you provide. And you're 1272 01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:40,710 supporting the show. We love it. No, no, no, I'm not. No, I'm not 1273 01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:43,170 at all annoyed. I'm sorry that you guys had impression. 1274 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,320 So here's a donation that hopefully shows my appreciation 1275 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,980 for all involved in podcasting. 2.0 podcasting gave me purpose 1276 01:14:50,010 --> 01:14:53,430 after a job loss and saved my life from suicide. As I 1277 01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:56,520 explained on Dave Jackson's School of podcasting episode, 1278 01:14:56,910 --> 01:15:00,300 podcasting gives a listener a reason to live. Wow, thanks To 1279 01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:02,670 all involved for the hard work Wow, that 1280 01:15:02,670 --> 01:15:04,380 is whatever what episode is that? 1281 01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:09,480 It's called podcasting gives a listener a reason to live. 1282 01:15:09,809 --> 01:15:12,569 Crikey. Well Nice. 1283 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,490 Yeah, I mean, 1284 01:15:14,489 --> 01:15:18,599 I like hearing that another life saved or created Dave Jones. 1285 01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:19,799 It's also another 1286 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,040 money making tip where we can just be really ambiguous about 1287 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,080 our thoughts about things and people have to give us more 1288 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,760 money in order to explain the problem. 1289 01:15:26,910 --> 01:15:29,490 I love how you do that you are thinking man 1290 01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:36,450 thank you for that $100 cauldron entertainment $50 from Amy 1291 01:15:36,450 --> 01:15:40,140 Harmon, and there's no note from Amy but thank you Amy. Thank you 1292 01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:45,630 Amy. That's it. That's Pay Pal so we got some boosts Mr. 1293 01:15:45,630 --> 01:15:45,930 Graham's 1294 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:54,390 yay. Hold on Yeah, ready to boost everybody booster Graham's 1295 01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:56,610 bee bee bee hanging? What are we 1296 01:15:57,330 --> 01:16:02,460 Spencer 33,369 says through fountain and he says thank you 1297 01:16:02,460 --> 01:16:04,740 for helping us make podcasting history shout out to rare 1298 01:16:04,740 --> 01:16:08,100 encounter with April Kirby and cold acid who also implemented 1299 01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:10,500 Live This Week go podcast. Yeah, I 1300 01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:11,490 want to do live. 1301 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,040 Let's do it. Can we do it next week? 1302 01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:17,640 Yeah. Next week. I'll be jacked and ready next Friday going 1303 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,300 live. 1304 01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:20,190 Alright, we'll do it. We'll do it live. 1305 01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:22,260 All right. Well, I'm excited now. 1306 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,150 Sir, Doug, give us 4400 sets and he says I'm boosting while 1307 01:16:27,150 --> 01:16:34,260 driving. Yeah, we pull over pullover. Hard hats in this row 1308 01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:38,430 of ducks. 20 to 22 and he says now we know where the AMA cast 1309 01:16:38,430 --> 01:16:41,640 comes from. I think that was a lot there's less 1310 01:16:44,370 --> 01:16:45,870 Rubber Ducks always appreciated. 1311 01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:52,680 Dan you do not harvest people's email addresses from their RSS 1312 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,810 feeds and spam them to come to fireside D. 1313 01:16:55,230 --> 01:16:59,190 No, but my competitors do that. They definitely do that I've 1314 01:16:59,190 --> 01:17:04,410 heard yet. I get reports of it all the time on Twitter and, and 1315 01:17:04,410 --> 01:17:09,420 people forward me stuff all the time. You'd be absolutely 1316 01:17:09,420 --> 01:17:12,990 shocked and I I don't get that. I feel like that's something 1317 01:17:12,990 --> 01:17:15,810 that you just shouldn't do. You just shouldn't do that. 1318 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,430 We call it slimy. 1319 01:17:17,670 --> 01:17:21,090 Yeah, just like it's more than one more than one company that 1320 01:17:21,090 --> 01:17:21,720 does that. 1321 01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:25,710 It's mainly one company. But there are there is a second one 1322 01:17:25,710 --> 01:17:27,870 but it's mainly the one. They not gonna 1323 01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:31,950 know because we all know this has been a news story. This was 1324 01:17:31,980 --> 01:17:36,030 I got it on. What's the thing called? 1325 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,510 I can't remember which company it was. No, I 1326 01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:45,180 got it on spooler I heard it on spooler had to go look it up 1327 01:17:45,180 --> 01:17:49,830 what the hell was sparklers cooler. 1328 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,730 Harv has in this 12,222 sets. And he says running with 1329 01:17:53,730 --> 01:18:00,720 scissors. Yeah, we love that is what we do here. Martin from hot 1330 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,050 friend gave us 10,000 SATs and he says history is being written 1331 01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:06,780 first pot friend cross app comment just happened? 1332 01:18:06,810 --> 01:18:08,100 Oh, yeah. 1333 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,450 When did this happen? This was right around the show. Last 1334 01:18:12,450 --> 01:18:17,910 week. Our show post was coming up on our shows. Yeah, yes. 1335 01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:18,180 That's right. 1336 01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:20,009 I'm excited. Another first. 1337 01:18:20,370 --> 01:18:25,530 Yep, that's it. He's integrating mini pub. And I think Steven D 1338 01:18:25,530 --> 01:18:30,750 is integrating mini pub as well. We've got I'm celebrating John's 1339 01:18:30,750 --> 01:18:33,000 for lunch next week. So we're gonna talk all 1340 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,870 Spurlock this guy's another mysterious dude or like him. 1341 01:18:38,250 --> 01:18:40,590 What's he been up to? What's he going to come on? Talk about 1342 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,490 cross cross on the comments. Yeah. Yeah. Know about cross app 1343 01:18:44,490 --> 01:18:45,690 comments, Dan. 1344 01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:49,890 I mean, I only don't look for a level. No, no, no, no. Just say 1345 01:18:49,890 --> 01:18:50,130 no. 1346 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,900 So it's all the spec is all using activity pub. 1347 01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,140 Well, you guys talked about at the end of the year last Oh, 1348 01:18:58,140 --> 01:18:58,500 right. 1349 01:18:58,530 --> 01:19:01,170 This is one of the first things we talked about. And we were we 1350 01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:03,690 were not ready as a group yet to tackle it. But we're, we're in 1351 01:19:03,690 --> 01:19:04,650 the air now. I think. 1352 01:19:05,250 --> 01:19:08,970 Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it will be in Phase Five of the 1353 01:19:08,970 --> 01:19:12,600 namespace, the Roodman, the rudimentary tags will be in 1354 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,070 there and then there'll be a bit it's fairly the landscape for 1355 01:19:17,070 --> 01:19:20,370 how to do this has gotten a lot more clear over the last 1356 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,470 probably three to four weeks. 1357 01:19:23,130 --> 01:19:26,640 But but we're seeing it work, man. It's so cool. In one app, 1358 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,510 you post a comment, boom, it's in all the others. And you can 1359 01:19:30,510 --> 01:19:33,630 choose your platform so I use the mastodon server, you can 1360 01:19:33,630 --> 01:19:36,180 reply there. I mean, the whole thing is mine. You know what I'm 1361 01:19:36,180 --> 01:19:38,160 shocked at the interest in this thing. 1362 01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:42,420 Yes. Interest is shocked and then shot mortals, mere mortals 1363 01:19:42,420 --> 01:19:46,590 podcast, Karen down, gave us a road ducks 2222 He said, 1364 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,010 actually had a chat with a premature duck. 1365 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,270 Sorry. Premature duck. 1366 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,530 Oh my god. Actually had a chat with Brian on the latest mere 1367 01:19:58,530 --> 01:20:01,080 mortals conversations As he mentioned about getting some 1368 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,650 flack from the Bitcoin maximalists sad to hear as he's 1369 01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:07,800 doing great work with POD paying He sure is. Yeah also talked 1370 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,920 about decentralization the genesis of hive and his crypto 1371 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,290 class action lawsuit here in Australia if anyone is 1372 01:20:13,290 --> 01:20:14,130 interested quackquack 1373 01:20:16,260 --> 01:20:21,450 Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, dude, don't pick 1374 01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:22,080 fights. 1375 01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:27,060 Fights there's more of them than there are views so just yeah, 1376 01:20:27,090 --> 01:20:30,660 yes. We understand what you're saying, bro. We do. 1377 01:20:31,410 --> 01:20:35,430 Brian of London 19 148 SAS because the devil he says the 1378 01:20:35,490 --> 01:20:39,240 Episode This episode is made for me. Thank you much. I'm also 1379 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,730 seeing increased failed transactions, especially to mine 1380 01:20:41,730 --> 01:20:44,550 and Phoenix. I'm working hard to fix this. No breeze and the 1381 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:46,860 split. Well, yeah, 1382 01:20:46,860 --> 01:20:49,080 I think we have reason the split and what do you mean breezing 1383 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,560 the split ROI, like ROI? What is what is he saying 1384 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,020 from last episode? Didn't we put ROI split and you 1385 01:20:55,050 --> 01:20:59,160 know, he refused. He refused. Yeah. I said, Give me your 1386 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,370 lightning node. He said No, put give it towards podcasting. 2.0. 1387 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,760 I said, Yeah, but I want you to see the joy of these Satoshis 1388 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,700 coming and he says, Dude, I see that all day on the breeze node. 1389 01:21:09,150 --> 01:21:10,140 Okay, fair point. 1390 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,190 He said, he said I'm Israeli. I don't need joy. I live on the 1391 01:21:14,220 --> 01:21:15,210 hour of the universe. 1392 01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:17,100 Precisely. 1393 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:24,270 Okay, so up. Here we go. Is this? Yeah, there's yet here. It 1394 01:21:24,270 --> 01:21:27,210 is anonymous, but it's not really anonymous because it came 1395 01:21:27,210 --> 01:21:33,240 through breeze and it's Roy and he sent us 123,456 sets. 1396 01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:38,670 Oh, let me see. Let me go ahead. 1397 01:21:38,970 --> 01:21:41,550 It's a breeze love for podcast index from Roy. 1398 01:21:41,670 --> 01:21:47,130 Oh, man. Give me a little bit of love back. Thank you, Roy. You 1399 01:21:47,130 --> 01:21:49,260 know, I shamed him into that. That was pretty cool. That 1400 01:21:49,260 --> 01:21:52,680 works. Like hey, man. None of the Bitcoin has ever donated. 1401 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,840 All they do is bitches bread Brian of London. 1402 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,670 And he was like, okay, okay. 1403 01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:01,530 Thank you, Roy. Thank you. So he bought a mic. We got to test it. 1404 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,520 Oh, cool. He's he's like, what can you recommend? I said, Well, 1405 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:11,550 I would recommend the was it the SM seven? The the the USB 1406 01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:14,880 version? What does that Dan? Is that the M seven? Yeah, the M 1407 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,910 seven. Yeah, the M service or he says that those are badass. And 1408 01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:20,640 he's like, You got anything cheaper? So hey, man, you asked 1409 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,750 for the podcast on pod father recommendation. He's like I got 1410 01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:28,110 a yeti blues. Okay, you're ready for you to define? 1411 01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:31,860 What What mic Are you on right now? Danny sound good. 1412 01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:37,530 I am on the Telefunken M which guys? Is this the mid shoe? I 1413 01:22:37,530 --> 01:22:39,210 think? Yeah, it's um, 1414 01:22:39,420 --> 01:22:42,030 wait a minute. What? Telefunken what? 1415 01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:48,570 Avallon tell you the wrong thing. Telefunken M 82. Yeah, 1416 01:22:48,570 --> 01:22:51,840 that's that was right. It's, um, it's really great. Mike, I've 1417 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,540 been on this thing for years. And this came from a 1418 01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:58,110 recommendation one of my listeners who went to went to 1419 01:22:58,110 --> 01:23:02,070 some audio show and Telefunken was there and he contact he's 1420 01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:05,460 like a super like super nerd audio engineer. He knows 1421 01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:08,880 everything. And he, he's like 10 your your voice would sound 1422 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,280 really good through this mic. And I said really? And he's 1423 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,980 like, better than better than the Shure SM seven way better 1424 01:23:13,980 --> 01:23:16,650 than the Heil PR 40 You got to get this you got to get it and 1425 01:23:16,650 --> 01:23:19,620 I'm like, You know what, I'll order it and if it's wrong, I'll 1426 01:23:19,620 --> 01:23:22,620 just you know, send it back and it was great and I loved it and 1427 01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:24,810 I've been using it ever since I think I'm going to try this one 1428 01:23:24,810 --> 01:23:28,500 out. Is a great mic. You would sound amazing through this does 1429 01:23:28,500 --> 01:23:29,250 it come with 1430 01:23:29,250 --> 01:23:32,580 a boom attachment? Or do you have to have a an extra bit 1431 01:23:32,580 --> 01:23:33,150 package 1432 01:23:33,150 --> 01:23:36,750 that I got came with the boom and the boom attachment and 1433 01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,150 everything that you need and it actually came with two it comes 1434 01:23:39,150 --> 01:23:41,700 with a shock mount and it also comes with just the little 1435 01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:45,390 attachment and I think there's different packages you can get 1436 01:23:45,390 --> 01:23:48,360 depending on what you want like it's up to you 1437 01:23:48,450 --> 01:23:51,660 I've always liked Telefunken microphones I have not owned one 1438 01:23:51,660 --> 01:23:53,640 myself have used them many times 1439 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,480 the build on it is amazing like it's it looks good that's 1440 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,640 so you got to get the the broadcast package with the cable 1441 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,850 or with comes with cable, shock mount and boom arm. 1442 01:24:06,510 --> 01:24:10,110 You don't want us to just kick drum mic. Yeah, 1443 01:24:10,110 --> 01:24:12,780 that's yeah, just I mean, most of the mics that we use in 1444 01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:15,540 podcasting are kick drum mics, right I mean, wouldn't you say 1445 01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:18,420 the rd 20 and the PR 40? Weren't they kick drum 1446 01:24:18,450 --> 01:24:21,210 mics? Yes. I think they were originally Yeah. 1447 01:24:22,230 --> 01:24:26,430 But you can get the M 782 microphone mount ma two t f one 1448 01:24:26,430 --> 01:24:30,150 one attachment if you're if you don't like the shock mount I'm 1449 01:24:30,150 --> 01:24:32,040 just looking at their website right now but it's 1450 01:24:32,070 --> 01:24:34,980 do you need to shock mount is it real so I guess it's probably 1451 01:24:34,980 --> 01:24:35,640 sensitive 1452 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,330 is sensitive enough? I tried it without it and it seemed to pick 1453 01:24:39,330 --> 01:24:39,540 up I 1454 01:24:39,540 --> 01:24:42,600 just like guy just like grabbing my mic, you know, like a big 1455 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:43,560 phallic symbol. 1456 01:24:43,860 --> 01:24:44,670 Yeah, of course. 1457 01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:47,580 I mean, of course. Yeah, of course. We know. 1458 01:24:49,410 --> 01:24:51,600 That doesn't have that fantasy guess. 1459 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,240 Hmm. This is interesting. 1460 01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:56,669 I'm not buy this just just to have it in here. Look at 1461 01:24:56,670 --> 01:25:00,720 it. Mike. So cool. And it's all black, black. all the time. 1462 01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:01,170 Yeah. 1463 01:25:01,470 --> 01:25:05,070 Okay. But I like the sound of it. I agree with Dave You sound 1464 01:25:05,070 --> 01:25:08,490 really good is a real real good son. No, it's the mic man. Don't 1465 01:25:08,490 --> 01:25:16,680 take credit. It sounds really nice Come on, Dan. You should 1466 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,630 have been working with me when you had the chance. 1467 01:25:18,780 --> 01:25:20,820 Oh my god, you can bring this up every day. 1468 01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:24,450 Of course I do. I live I didn't. 1469 01:25:24,450 --> 01:25:28,140 I didn't see the vision and now I regret I told you it's the one 1470 01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:29,430 thing I regret in my life. 1471 01:25:30,540 --> 01:25:33,270 I'm not even kidding. Let's continue with our booster grams 1472 01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:33,480 day 1473 01:25:33,540 --> 01:25:39,030 John's BRT gave us 49,000 SATs was so nice whopping Adams and 1474 01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:40,560 splicing pew pew. 1475 01:25:43,020 --> 01:25:45,630 Nice. Excellent. 1476 01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:50,310 Cast, peatland gave us 3300 sets and he says I'm trying to get 1477 01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:53,760 the podcast index channel in balance for weeks now I did the 1478 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,420 rebalance swap loop all of them fail. We'll try to we'll try 1479 01:25:57,420 --> 01:25:59,760 with ZERO FEES one of these days thanks for the show. 1480 01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:04,980 Yeah, on that, you know, I am experimenting with with fees for 1481 01:26:04,980 --> 01:26:08,790 our liquidity provision. And so far, it seems like they're 1482 01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:13,500 having a zero base fee. So so for the micro payments seems to 1483 01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:16,980 be really good. And it has most definitely, with a with a 1484 01:26:16,980 --> 01:26:23,460 significantly higher per amount fee has stopped a lot of the 1485 01:26:23,730 --> 01:26:27,870 routing that was clear was just blowing out our channels. So but 1486 01:26:27,870 --> 01:26:31,380 it does mean that if you have so for instance, Todd, with your 1487 01:26:31,380 --> 01:26:36,150 node, you know, we're an expensive place to be if you 1488 01:26:36,150 --> 01:26:39,600 want to get all your payments through us. So the whole idea 1489 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,290 is, you know, open up more channels, work with other people 1490 01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:45,990 expand and we need that the network needs it. Everybody 1491 01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:49,170 needs it, and we need it so that we can make good use of our 1492 01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:49,860 liquidity. 1493 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,400 Yeah, and if all else fails in your rebalancing, just just drop 1494 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,990 the channel and open a new one. I mean, like 1495 01:26:55,020 --> 01:26:57,660 those Yes, that's another way to do it. It's expensive, but it's 1496 01:26:57,660 --> 01:26:59,070 definitely wait for the phase to be 1497 01:26:59,069 --> 01:27:01,259 down. Yeah, wait for the min put mempool to be a little bit empty 1498 01:27:01,259 --> 01:27:08,039 and try new. Primitive one, gave us 6669 SATs through fountain 1499 01:27:08,039 --> 01:27:10,829 and he says I came across submarine swaps recently without 1500 01:27:10,829 --> 01:27:13,769 foreknowledge which put me off a bit, but I feel a lot better 1501 01:27:13,769 --> 01:27:15,719 about the whole thing and learned a bunch about breeze 1502 01:27:15,719 --> 01:27:18,269 making me feel better for having recommended it to some people. 1503 01:27:18,780 --> 01:27:22,830 I had a submarine swap experience myself actually. Did 1504 01:27:22,830 --> 01:27:26,340 you with the breeze app, which was kind of fun. That was not 1505 01:27:26,340 --> 01:27:32,280 fun. But how it ultimately worked. I was sending I was 1506 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,290 sending money to my sister in Italy to the breeze app on chain 1507 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,280 1100 bucks or something. We're renting an Airbnb for my dad's 1508 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,720 Intermot and so I sent her I sent it to her actually to her 1509 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,060 husband because he said like you know, I'll just pay for it and 1510 01:27:48,060 --> 01:27:50,940 then this end as our sound Oh, he wants to have some bitcoins 1511 01:27:50,940 --> 01:27:55,860 to send it to him. And I'd sent a test to the to the bitcoin 1512 01:27:55,860 --> 01:27:57,990 address you know, like 10 bucks just to make sure it got there. 1513 01:27:58,020 --> 01:28:02,220 Okay, everything's fine. And then I sent the remaining money 1514 01:28:02,220 --> 01:28:06,990 to the same bitcoin address, which typically you can do even 1515 01:28:06,990 --> 01:28:10,020 though and I didn't listen to my sister because she said are you 1516 01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:12,870 supposed to do that use the same one twice and like I shut up 1517 01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:15,990 you're not a Bitcoin er, I know what I'm doing. But it's but 1518 01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:18,960 what the way breeze does it is it's a submarine swap. So it 1519 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,180 comes into the breeze wallet in enlightening and you can I think 1520 01:28:24,180 --> 01:28:26,880 probably just stopped double spend or some other accounting 1521 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:32,040 issue you can't reuse that invoice and so I sent this and 1522 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,130 what had the way they do it is then after 244 blocks they'll 1523 01:28:35,130 --> 01:28:38,190 refund the money you can choose where you want to refund it to 1524 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,450 which is on one hand cool though you can't use the app for that 1525 01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:46,590 for that amount of time. But while all this took place we had 1526 01:28:46,590 --> 01:28:50,190 the war kick up and then the the mempool just went to like you 1527 01:28:50,190 --> 01:28:53,910 know oh crap when he sets for V bite and this this thing was 1528 01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:57,210 just hung in there and I'm talking to Royce do this is such 1529 01:28:57,210 --> 01:29:00,210 a shit experience. I can't believe my sister my brother in 1530 01:29:00,210 --> 01:29:02,310 law did like Adams nuts with this Bitcoin 1531 01:29:03,780 --> 01:29:06,780 but it's the worst possible demo 1532 01:29:07,139 --> 01:29:09,959 right but it worked out and then they got on lightning and they 1533 01:29:09,959 --> 01:29:12,089 transferred it back and forth. They were really delighted with 1534 01:29:12,089 --> 01:29:14,789 that but most importantly they were delighted because have gone 1535 01:29:14,789 --> 01:29:18,749 up 10% Since I sent it to them like we didn't mind waiting on 1536 01:29:18,749 --> 01:29:22,049 you you fool. And today right away I made sure that that got 1537 01:29:22,049 --> 01:29:25,649 stricken right off. There you go boom, you're done. No, no profit 1538 01:29:25,649 --> 01:29:26,519 for you today. 1539 01:29:28,050 --> 01:29:32,010 Dave Jackson says 2400 sets and he says emptying my wallet for 1540 01:29:32,010 --> 01:29:35,430 February before filling it up for March go bug Gaston yo yo 1541 01:29:37,740 --> 01:29:42,960 How you doing? Oh, another row. What did you must have really 1542 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,720 shamed Roy because he sent us another 123,000 1543 01:29:46,859 --> 01:29:48,119 Holy crap. 1544 01:29:50,010 --> 01:29:56,460 He says for my boy. He says from Roy with love, also the name of 1545 01:29:56,460 --> 01:29:57,150 a famous movie 1546 01:30:00,359 --> 01:30:03,959 Sure, Roy. Yeah. Thanks, Roy. Really appreciate it. 1547 01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:10,860 22 To 22 Big humongous row of dogs and he says, this is David 1548 01:30:10,860 --> 01:30:14,700 Leary says to have to do it have a one of two 1549 01:30:15,630 --> 01:30:17,340 to see I wanted to give him a little 1550 01:30:21,390 --> 01:30:28,020 Oh, I see he's he says what is remove? Remove podcast ID 1551 01:30:28,050 --> 01:30:32,190 2062903 And keep podcast ID 9304 90 Okay, this is tech 1552 01:30:32,190 --> 01:30:32,550 support, 1553 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,820 tech support. We love tech support this paid for. That's 1554 01:30:35,820 --> 01:30:38,400 right. We'll take care of that right away, sir. No problem. We 1555 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,540 love you as a customer. 1556 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,820 Putting it to the side. I will take care of that after the 1557 01:30:43,890 --> 01:30:52,830 drip, drip Scott. He's back. What 345,678 says Holy crap 1558 01:30:52,830 --> 01:30:56,160 boost boost boost. Nice, man. Thanks for 1559 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,150 cast Matic. 1560 01:30:57,270 --> 01:30:58,470 Oh my goodness. 1561 01:30:58,740 --> 01:31:01,650 He says great show last week, I learned a lot but it was still a 1562 01:31:01,650 --> 01:31:04,650 bit over my head. And that's okay, as I'm still new to this 1563 01:31:04,650 --> 01:31:07,140 crypto stuff. I'm still struggling to understand how to 1564 01:31:07,140 --> 01:31:10,620 get more liquidity into my node. Can you break it down some some 1565 01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:14,220 more for us slow people. I love the show drip. Now. If you're 1566 01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:17,010 trying to figure out how to get more liquidity into your note, 1567 01:31:17,130 --> 01:31:20,760 this is not how you do a drip. This is sending liquidity out of 1568 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,150 your nose. Yeah, yes, exactly. This is the wrong strategy. 1569 01:31:24,180 --> 01:31:28,470 You're going the wrong way. I can look into that and help you 1570 01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:32,520 out drive let me I'll look into your let me check your node. 1571 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,020 This is a Dan you see you're seeing how this how this is 1572 01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:37,650 done. I mean this 1573 01:31:38,939 --> 01:31:41,399 this is a masterclass for me. When you 1574 01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:45,239 learn you this would be perfect for a Dan Benjamin show. Yeah, 1575 01:31:45,299 --> 01:31:51,989 the corner 1000 SATs from anonymous and it just says I 1576 01:31:51,989 --> 01:31:52,709 love breeze 1577 01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:56,220 go well we love you. Boost don't we? Oh 1578 01:31:56,340 --> 01:32:02,190 yeah. Are no sin 33 33/3 times lucky happy three three boost. 1579 01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:07,380 Yo are no has been sending some pull requests for helipads. Oh 1580 01:32:07,380 --> 01:32:10,440 cool. Yeah. Yeah. He's been he's been doing a lot of work on that 1581 01:32:10,470 --> 01:32:15,030 nice Fun Fact Friday with Lila and Davidson. This 8050 as as it 1582 01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:18,150 says just ordered parts for our Umbral if you want to learn 1583 01:32:18,150 --> 01:32:20,940 about artificial intelligence, you're invited to listen to AI 1584 01:32:20,970 --> 01:32:21,480 cooking. 1585 01:32:21,510 --> 01:32:26,070 Wait a minute, wait a minute. What is going on here? What is 1586 01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:33,240 happening here so we have we have Fun Fact Friday, donating 1587 01:32:33,810 --> 01:32:36,120 now I know that they're putting together parts for their Umbral 1588 01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,510 cut so i'll post about that. And then they're promoting comic 1589 01:32:39,510 --> 01:32:42,720 strip bloggers AI cooking this is very interesting. 1590 01:32:44,910 --> 01:32:47,430 Um, I don't understand I'm confused 1591 01:32:47,430 --> 01:32:50,880 like in my brain. I'm confused but I like it. I like it. 1592 01:32:53,670 --> 01:32:57,240 See cash payments and is 33 cents he says okay, ZERO FEES 1593 01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,910 did the trick. I like to follow up 1594 01:33:01,590 --> 01:33:03,900 a little boost the droopy boost we lose 1595 01:33:05,250 --> 01:33:09,120 1000 SATs from an anonymous user and you just as boost recovered 1596 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:09,900 Podcast. 1597 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:10,860 I'm very nice. I 1598 01:33:12,689 --> 01:33:15,509 don't know what that means. But we'll take that. Yeah, what's 1599 01:33:16,319 --> 01:33:20,069 Spencer send us another one. Oh, this this is just a source like 1600 01:33:20,069 --> 01:33:25,079 a double. This is a 33 369 or 50. That's like a double from 1601 01:33:25,079 --> 01:33:25,679 his earlier was 1602 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:26,790 beautiful. Thank you. 1603 01:33:26,819 --> 01:33:31,709 Thank you very much. David Mitas and a 3400 cent birthday boost 1604 01:33:31,709 --> 01:33:32,699 for Dred Scott. 1605 01:33:34,410 --> 01:33:39,000 We should probably hit him with another biscuit for his 1606 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:39,420 birthday. 1607 01:33:39,450 --> 01:33:43,020 They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Okay, here's 1608 01:33:43,260 --> 01:33:52,890 1111 11,101 11,111 says and this is the one of two so this is the 1609 01:33:52,890 --> 01:33:55,320 first half of the other one says Please remove the fraudulent 1610 01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:56,820 anchor copy of my podcast. 1611 01:33:57,059 --> 01:34:05,069 There you go. Wow. It's tech support in two parts. Yeah. Very 1612 01:34:05,069 --> 01:34:05,459 good. 1613 01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:11,040 Monthly command line boost from Mike Nolan. Or no Newman, Mike 1614 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,730 Newman. always mispronounce it. Oh, he sent a humongous rush 1615 01:34:14,730 --> 01:34:19,650 boost 21 112 Three the command line says monthly command line 1616 01:34:19,650 --> 01:34:22,590 boost Adam great interview on Glenn Beck podcast totally on 1617 01:34:22,590 --> 01:34:24,180 message go podcasting. 1618 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:30,810 No thank you we don't have marketing meetings we just had 1619 01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:34,170 people boost and say you did a good job man is fine or like 1620 01:34:34,170 --> 01:34:36,480 dude, you should have hit that more you know people it's this 1621 01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:38,280 is our this is our messaging system now. 1622 01:34:39,510 --> 01:34:43,500 We get to lift we get to she's does drink 5551 things out and 1623 01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:46,770 then he says reply to the last episode. Dave is the number one 1624 01:34:46,770 --> 01:34:50,730 booster in SATs not an amount of times boosted okay. 1625 01:34:50,789 --> 01:34:55,379 Oh well who's number one and amount of times boosted? Oh no. 1626 01:34:56,009 --> 01:35:01,079 I feel like I feel like I'm a I'm a heel Yeah, I'm not keeping 1627 01:35:01,079 --> 01:35:04,409 up my booster quota. My boat and my boat. I 1628 01:35:04,410 --> 01:35:06,360 mean, Dan, maybe Dan's a secret booster. 1629 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,370 It's me, isn't he? 1630 01:35:08,670 --> 01:35:16,530 Yeah, Dan's actually drips got all of our chat. No. Oh, the 1631 01:35:16,530 --> 01:35:17,190 delimiter 1632 01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,089 blogger there he is ladies and gentlemen. What did he What did 1633 01:35:21,089 --> 01:35:21,839 he do for us? 1634 01:35:22,290 --> 01:35:24,270 20,033 sets 1635 01:35:24,300 --> 01:35:25,320 nice thank you. 1636 01:35:25,350 --> 01:35:28,650 He says howdy Dave and Adam through pod friend this one time 1637 01:35:28,650 --> 01:35:31,920 different message announcement from the country of Poland to 1638 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,730 look for Ukrainian refugees. You will be admitted unconditionally 1639 01:35:35,730 --> 01:35:39,270 to Poland including pets. Just go to Polish border crossings. 1640 01:35:39,450 --> 01:35:42,090 Unlike Hungary and Romania, Poland uses very similar 1641 01:35:42,090 --> 01:35:45,390 language to to Ukrainian. Poland will provide you with 1642 01:35:45,390 --> 01:35:49,230 accommodation, food, medical assistance, etc. And you can 1643 01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:53,310 also work legally if you want. For more info on in Ukrainian 1644 01:35:53,310 --> 01:35:56,880 and English, the website uae.gov.pl. If you know 1645 01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,920 Ukrainians anywhere, pass it on. 1646 01:35:59,490 --> 01:36:03,090 Wow. All right. Very nice. Very nice comics for bloggers. Thank 1647 01:36:03,090 --> 01:36:09,240 you. Thanks for Thanks for supporting the show. Everybody, 1648 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,610 please remember this thing doesn't run itself. 1649 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,190 She gets a monthly. Oh, we 1650 01:36:14,190 --> 01:36:15,030 got the monthly. Sure. 1651 01:36:15,059 --> 01:36:20,849 Yeah, we get Jeff Miller at $20. Michael Kimmer 533. Leslie 1652 01:36:20,849 --> 01:36:27,599 Martin $2 Dred Scott again at $15 a month, Aaron Renaud at $5 1653 01:36:27,629 --> 01:36:33,899 Pedro gone calvus at $5. Chad Farrow at 20 to $20.22. LORETTA 1654 01:36:33,899 --> 01:36:40,709 Vandenberg at $10. Scottish Albert at $12. Mark Graham at 1655 01:36:40,709 --> 01:36:45,659 $1. Boris because y'all ski at $1. Just maraca at $5. And David 1656 01:36:45,659 --> 01:36:47,429 metus. At $10. 1657 01:36:47,700 --> 01:36:50,400 Thank you all very much these monthly really do make a 1658 01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,400 difference. We appreciate that. And I was actually looking 1659 01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,850 should i Did you check the tally coin by any chance? 1660 01:36:58,020 --> 01:36:59,400 So what about it? Well, 1661 01:36:59,399 --> 01:37:03,299 I was wondering if anyone had if anyone had sent us any donations 1662 01:37:03,299 --> 01:37:03,929 through? 1663 01:37:04,500 --> 01:37:07,440 Oh, I don't know. The only one that has access to it. Yeah, 1664 01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:13,500 no. Let me see. No, because it's public. Public. Yeah, it looks 1665 01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:16,140 like we have third. Let me see. We do have something. Yeah, 1666 01:37:16,170 --> 01:37:23,010 something came in. We have two payments, no message. And let's 1667 01:37:23,010 --> 01:37:29,160 see. One is 12,840 Satoshis. And the other one is no name 1668 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:33,510 anonymous, testing out the new widget. 24,896. Thank you very 1669 01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:38,550 much. Both of you. Yeah, that works, man. It works. It works. 1670 01:37:38,940 --> 01:37:43,470 Cool. No, it works. Love it. Thank you all for supporting the 1671 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,350 project. Thank you for supporting the podcast. We 1672 01:37:46,350 --> 01:37:50,280 really appreciate it. And thank you damn Benjamin for everything 1673 01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,820 you've done in podcasting from early days that you continue to 1674 01:37:53,820 --> 01:37:56,550 do. I mean, I understand this little side gig. You know, pick 1675 01:37:56,550 --> 01:37:59,580 up some shares, you'll be rich. Just remember us remember to 1676 01:37:59,580 --> 01:38:00,210 boost us. 1677 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,760 I mean, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you, Adam. 1678 01:38:02,819 --> 01:38:10,859 Ah damn, we got to hang out man. Are you still in Austin? Right? 1679 01:38:10,859 --> 01:38:13,679 You're still an awesome. Yeah, we can we gotta have a burger or 1680 01:38:13,679 --> 01:38:14,519 something together. I'd 1681 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,070 like to love that. Anytime you tell me when I'll be there. So 1682 01:38:17,070 --> 01:38:21,240 anything else we can do for you, sir? enough data and so much. 1683 01:38:22,350 --> 01:38:25,800 I'm sending you pod pinkies. Okay, thank you. Please do yeah, 1684 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:26,070 get 1685 01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,360 that that would be great. 1686 01:38:27,390 --> 01:38:30,600 I mean, I just do that I will. I'm publicly committing to doing 1687 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,620 it. It will be great. It's 1688 01:38:31,620 --> 01:38:32,400 so easy. 1689 01:38:32,910 --> 01:38:38,550 And to have that working and to have your schoolers stuff change 1690 01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:42,030 and work the way you expect it in the new podcast apps. That 1691 01:38:42,030 --> 01:38:44,010 would be that would be pretty cool. I think it's interesting. 1692 01:38:44,370 --> 01:38:50,730 If you do. So here, if you put in pod things where you're 1693 01:38:50,730 --> 01:38:55,050 sending a GET request to the pod pink cloud system every time 1694 01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:59,730 they feed changes if you if you do that, then what I what I can 1695 01:38:59,730 --> 01:39:03,240 do is I can set it up to where we will push back out a website, 1696 01:39:03,690 --> 01:39:07,830 a web sub subscription, like a web sub ping all yes. If you 1697 01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:09,840 want to do it that way. And then you can kind of get double bang 1698 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,030 for your buck. We'll just do it. Do it. 1699 01:39:12,029 --> 01:39:13,259 Let's do it. Let's make it happen. 1700 01:39:14,069 --> 01:39:16,139 All right, cool. I'll send you those cases happening. 1701 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,580 David. Everything cool with you, man. 1702 01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,450 Yeah, doing good. Yeah, doing fine. We got he's gonna have a 1703 01:39:21,450 --> 01:39:24,660 debt. Try to have a dev meeting tomorrow at 12 Central, I think 1704 01:39:24,660 --> 01:39:24,960 is over. 1705 01:39:24,990 --> 01:39:27,450 Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. So I should be able to 1706 01:39:27,450 --> 01:39:29,130 dial in for that. We're gonna 1707 01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:33,630 get to try to discuss the recommendations tag a little bit 1708 01:39:33,630 --> 01:39:36,780 because we need that things complicated and we need some we 1709 01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:37,590 need to talk that out. 1710 01:39:37,650 --> 01:39:43,650 Excellent. Excellent. And if you want to intern for Dave Jones, 1711 01:39:43,650 --> 01:39:44,070 if you want 1712 01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:47,759 to give us one, two, all right, 1713 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,630 send everything to Adam at podcast index.org and I will 1714 01:39:51,630 --> 01:39:53,790 sort through everything and make sure that you are the right 1715 01:39:53,790 --> 01:39:59,070 candidate for zero pay and maximum exposure. Alright guys, 1716 01:39:59,070 --> 01:39:59,850 thanks so much. 1717 01:40:02,370 --> 01:40:03,150 Thanks again. 1718 01:40:03,210 --> 01:40:05,640 We'll see you next week everybody right here podcasting 1719 01:40:05,670 --> 01:40:06,390 2.0 1720 01:40:21,899 --> 01:40:26,489 You have been listening to podcasting 2.0 Visit podcast 1721 01:40:26,519 --> 01:40:29,189 index.com For more information 1722 01:40:32,220 --> 01:40:36,540 go podcast boost