Episode 72: Hitting the Apex

100:00:00,299 --> 00:00:05,489podcasting 2.0 February 4 2020to Episode 72 We're hitting the200:00:05,489 --> 00:00:06,359apex300:00:08,340 --> 00:00:09,870except on that intro, I didn'tquite400:00:12,540 --> 00:00:15,390everybody, welcome topodcasting. 2.0 It is the500:00:15,390 --> 00:00:19,500official meeting of the Board ofpodcasting 2.0 where we discuss600:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,900podcast index.org the podcastnamespace and of course, all the700:00:24,900 --> 00:00:28,650genius you that takes place inhis creative podcasting,800:00:28,650 --> 00:00:31,830lifestyle social, am Adam curryhere in the heartland of Texas900:00:31,830 --> 00:00:34,650Hill Country and then Alabama.When he's not moving cables,1000:00:34,650 --> 00:00:37,380he's moving minds. Say hello tomy friend on the other end.1100:00:37,380 --> 00:00:43,530Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. DaveJones. Apex is a squishy term.1200:00:45,390 --> 00:00:50,700You can loosely define an apex,I blew the the apex of what do1300:00:50,700 --> 00:00:52,920you understand of hitting theapex?1400:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,060Hitting the apex would be likewhen you're in a race car going1500:00:57,060 --> 00:01:01,170around the turn? Yes, perfect.It's the perfect line. Chris1600:01:01,530 --> 00:01:04,710That's it. That's it. That's it.When I did the1700:01:06,090 --> 00:01:11,250show was it was the Indy 500celebrity race. When you're in1800:01:11,250 --> 00:01:12,360Indy 500 card1900:01:13,980 --> 00:01:16,140well, actually back when I wasat MTV, because you could be2000:01:16,140 --> 00:01:17,280everything back in the day.2100:01:18,450 --> 00:01:21,810They had that they had somepromotion with Chevy and2200:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,050remember the Chevy geo was thatcar still around the Chevy Geo?2300:01:25,500 --> 00:01:25,860Oh, yeah.2400:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,870Yeah little compact car. And andso the idea was to have2500:01:31,710 --> 00:01:36,390celebrities music celebritiesrace on the actual circuit was2600:01:36,390 --> 00:01:40,260in Denver that year on thestreet circuit before Indy did2700:01:40,260 --> 00:01:44,370their official race. So we wetrained for like three days in2800:01:44,370 --> 00:01:48,270Arizona with Bob bond Durand,and you know, did all the but it2900:01:48,270 --> 00:01:52,110was weird. You know, like guysfrom white lion guys from poison3000:01:52,110 --> 00:01:52,680lion.3100:01:55,020 --> 00:01:59,850Oh, what was that saw with thechildren cry? Well, yes, I think3200:01:59,850 --> 00:02:01,170that's it. Yeah, I think that'sit.3300:02:02,730 --> 00:02:05,970Yeah. Johnny Gill. You know,there's a blast from the past.3400:02:06,240 --> 00:02:06,690Yeah.3500:02:09,030 --> 00:02:14,280Yeah, very good. Dave. Got us.Yes. Got your band chops coming3600:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,760through right now? Oh, yeah. Badbelting it out. Yes.3700:02:19,350 --> 00:02:20,160Anyway, so3800:02:21,210 --> 00:02:25,950also in the race was DonnyOsmond. And yeah, wait for it.3900:02:26,100 --> 00:02:29,370So hurry, hurry. That was it.No.4000:02:31,170 --> 00:02:35,400It was well timed. I admit. Ourlion iKOU. One that year for the4100:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,060second year in a row. As aDutchman, I know him and so I4200:02:39,060 --> 00:02:41,340was, you know, I was more in thepits and I could do a lot more4300:02:41,340 --> 00:02:44,460stuff than then you typicallythink but also, I went out with4400:02:44,460 --> 00:02:48,930Ari at night to walk the track.He said, Okay, watch us when you4500:02:48,930 --> 00:02:51,660want to hit the apex. And aswe're walking, you know, who we4600:02:51,660 --> 00:02:55,980see on the track that at nightlike dusk, Donnie awesome. Oh,4700:02:56,010 --> 00:03:01,920he's walking the track. And hewon. He won by a mile. Donnie4800:03:01,920 --> 00:03:06,390Ozma. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He wasa great driver. He was so4900:03:06,390 --> 00:03:07,380serious to.5000:03:08,850 --> 00:03:16,890Some people just have. So my, mywife is an artist. And she she5100:03:17,310 --> 00:03:21,510would it would be the term benot shutters she she bristles?5200:03:21,540 --> 00:03:25,290Yes. Okay, she bristles at thephrase.5300:03:26,730 --> 00:03:28,080Oh, you're so talented.5400:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,810She hates that. Because it makesart seem like it is just5500:03:33,810 --> 00:03:36,240something that you're born withand that you didn't have to like5600:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,660work. Oh, that's a good point.Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.5700:03:40,200 --> 00:03:46,980And so. But that being said,there are some things in life5800:03:47,010 --> 00:03:52,770that are like born into a personand I think race, some pet5900:03:52,770 --> 00:03:56,010somebody at the top of the racecar game at the racing game.6000:03:56,430 --> 00:04:00,450There's you, you can go you canget skill level up to this6100:04:00,450 --> 00:04:04,530certain point. And then therehas to be this, this thing that6200:04:04,530 --> 00:04:08,640jumps you over that line thisand it's like, a complete6300:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,760recklessness, that you don'tcare about your own the safety6400:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,960of your own body. There'ssomething Yes. Yeah, well, Donny6500:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,980Osmond man, he he was he wasrelentless. I was very nice guy6600:04:19,980 --> 00:04:21,270to really nice guy.6700:04:22,650 --> 00:04:26,100That's I mean, like, AC he's notdead.6800:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,660Though he better not be.6900:04:32,490 --> 00:04:33,330Let's double check.7000:04:34,770 --> 00:04:37,200He's one of those guys. I don'tI can't remember their age. Like7100:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,100I never know how old they are.Let me see. I'm pretty sure he's7200:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,170still he's still with us. I hopeso.7300:04:44,670 --> 00:04:49,680Let's Oh, he's born in 57 Fornow, okay. All right.7400:04:50,790 --> 00:04:53,970Do you remember any hit by theOsmond brothers?7500:04:56,250 --> 00:04:58,530It's it's gonna be you're notold enough. I don't think you're7600:04:58,530 --> 00:04:59,970old. No7700:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,260No, no, no, it's it was I wasprobably like in the single7800:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,020digits. When? Right Well, no, Iwas I wasn't much further behind7900:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,920or ahead I should say let me seethis was at the time. Yeah, I'm8000:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,170of course. Are you kidding me?I'm gonna give you I'm gonna hit8100:05:16,170 --> 00:05:17,400you right now brother. Here wego.8200:05:18,630 --> 00:05:20,550This is a hit from Adams youth8300:05:22,860 --> 00:05:24,810This is not sounding familiar8400:05:27,900 --> 00:05:31,950bah bah bah Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum.Yeah, baby. Here's the Osmond8500:05:31,950 --> 00:05:34,500brothers got crazy. Oh says8600:05:37,140 --> 00:05:37,620No.8700:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,930None bring it back.8800:05:42,870 --> 00:05:47,250No, no, no, I'm not. I don'tknow. I got nothing on that. All8900:05:47,250 --> 00:05:51,330right. It's a step above BucksFizz, really? But I was9000:05:51,330 --> 00:05:55,290listening to the extreme or morethan words on the way home.9100:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,000Yeah, but but but.9200:05:58,110 --> 00:06:00,750But the second album thatextreme to lay. That was the9300:06:00,780 --> 00:06:01,440that was the better?9400:06:03,030 --> 00:06:05,910Because that was the day of ahit off of that. Oh, yeah. They9500:06:06,960 --> 00:06:12,450stopped the world. Oh, yeah.Yep. All right, everybody. So9600:06:12,450 --> 00:06:15,570much for your Oh, two old dudestalk about music from the 70s9700:06:15,570 --> 00:06:18,600and 80s. That's a podcastconcept we've been working on9800:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,070for quite a while. I have allalbums. What it makes me sad9900:06:23,070 --> 00:06:26,580though. Because when I see theseguys that you have, I remember10000:06:26,580 --> 00:06:29,940them as youthful and like, youknow the stuff and then you see10100:06:29,940 --> 00:06:33,810him now that you're on a reuniontour something I'm like, oh, oh,10200:06:33,810 --> 00:06:38,190no. That means I look like that.Yeah, this some people might10300:06:38,190 --> 00:06:41,400have had that realization withthis recent Spotify frock us10400:06:41,820 --> 00:06:45,990with Neil Young and people goinglike Neil Young Joni Mitchell.10500:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,390Mm hmm.10600:06:49,410 --> 00:06:51,960Do we want to talk about that?Do we want to delve into it?10700:06:52,530 --> 00:06:56,610Because No, the only is for justa little bit. I have some things10800:06:56,610 --> 00:07:00,930to say. But go ahead. Well, Ihave some clips. Let's do clips.10900:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,060Yes. They have nothing to dowith with Ambani I don't know11000:07:06,060 --> 00:07:10,290what you guess I'm justinterested in in Spotify, his11100:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,940position what they're doing ingeneral.11200:07:13,110 --> 00:07:17,220And I'm more interested in thein the sociology of it. Because11300:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,300not, you know, I'm tired of thewhole freedom of speech thing.11400:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,930I feel like we solve that issue.I'm not I'm just kind of not11500:07:24,930 --> 00:07:26,640interested in that thing reallyanymore.11600:07:28,530 --> 00:07:33,150But, so I tried to be all weekwhenever I would hear somebody11700:07:33,150 --> 00:07:36,990say, let's talk about Dino.Because I was listening to you11800:07:36,990 --> 00:07:39,150were on Tom Woods yesterday, Iwas listening or day before and11900:07:39,150 --> 00:07:42,510I was listening to yourinterview. And Tom said, I want12000:07:42,510 --> 00:07:45,270to get your opinion on Joe RoganI click turned it off. I'm like,12100:07:45,300 --> 00:07:48,450I don't I don't want anybodyelse's opinion on what I tried12200:07:48,450 --> 00:07:51,480to stay away from that. I'llwait and so I can formulate my12300:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,840own thoughts. Oh, good. And thenI can still give you my opinion12400:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,630that they'll say when I gave onTom woods and it'll be fresh.12500:07:58,110 --> 00:08:02,130It'll be fresh and freshopinion. Juicy. Okay, first out12600:08:02,130 --> 00:08:05,010of the basket, give me give mesomeone sent me something from12700:08:05,010 --> 00:08:06,000your oven Devi.12800:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,170I think really and truly,12900:08:11,250 --> 00:08:15,420I think that this really allboils down to. Okay, so I think13000:08:16,380 --> 00:08:21,660my angle on this is that I thinkRogen and Whoopi Goldberg13100:08:23,070 --> 00:08:29,340are sort of the same. They'replaying the same script. I feel13200:08:29,340 --> 00:08:32,040like they're going, I feel likeokay, how would I say this13300:08:32,070 --> 00:08:34,920Whoopi Goldberg currently withwhat happened to her this past13400:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,020week. And those are my clip myclips are Whoopi.13500:08:38,340 --> 00:08:38,730Okay.13600:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,900I feel like she's at Rogen,stage one.13700:08:44,850 --> 00:08:47,460So there is if13800:08:48,810 --> 00:08:54,360Rogan went through like this,he's like phase one is just13900:08:54,390 --> 00:08:58,470uncharitable coverage by themedia. So they were you know,14000:08:58,470 --> 00:08:58,950saying,14100:09:00,030 --> 00:09:02,490like he he didn't want to takethe vaccine that was a sport,14200:09:02,490 --> 00:09:06,450you know, personal thing. Hesaid, If you want to do that, he14300:09:06,450 --> 00:09:09,750felt like if you're young andhealthy, you didn't need to take14400:09:09,750 --> 00:09:10,320the vaccine.14500:09:12,750 --> 00:09:16,080So then they triggered that justtriggered the hell out of14600:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,710everybody. And so they startedcoming, you know, all these14700:09:19,710 --> 00:09:24,210unfavorable things, you know,hey, you know, how, how dare he,14800:09:25,050 --> 00:09:27,540you know, blah, blah, blah. Andhe's not even healthy. You know,14900:09:27,540 --> 00:09:29,670people were showing pictures ofhim that made him look like a15000:09:29,670 --> 00:09:30,360fad. And15100:09:32,550 --> 00:09:35,670then, then he got COVID.15200:09:36,990 --> 00:09:40,800And, and used me and all thatstuff, one of which was15300:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,730ivermectin.15400:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,120Then, in the in the mainstream,specifically, CNN started sort15500:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,120of lying and saying that he wastaking veterinary medicine and15600:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,350all this kind of jazz. I feellike that his demo falls15700:09:56,580 --> 00:09:59,610to the point where then hehimself15800:10:00,299 --> 00:10:03,659was going through, he sort ofwent into the second phase or15900:10:03,659 --> 00:10:06,359the media went into the secondstage with him, which was16000:10:06,749 --> 00:10:11,039ostracizing and isolate, likeisolating him trying to trying16100:10:11,039 --> 00:10:15,839to build a wall around him as ifhe's so easy out on an island by16200:10:15,839 --> 00:10:19,109himself. It pissed him off somuch. He started having Sanjay16300:10:19,109 --> 00:10:21,359Gupta on and16400:10:22,680 --> 00:10:28,530and all they and then this thatled to then, you know, CNN went16500:10:28,530 --> 00:10:31,530after him again saying thatGupta said he was scared for his16600:10:31,530 --> 00:10:34,740life and all this kind of stuffon the show. And he's afraid16700:10:34,740 --> 00:10:36,840he's going to come over the deskand hit him and all this kind of16800:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,680jazz. Well then, so he goesafter that whole ivermectin16900:10:40,680 --> 00:10:46,140deal. Rogan just went into fullblown. I'm gonna have as many17000:10:46,170 --> 00:10:50,850opposing views on the show as Ican. I'm gonna go Robert Malone,17100:10:50,850 --> 00:10:54,240Macola. Around Barrett's andNick17200:10:57,090 --> 00:11:00,570copia core, he just went throughthis, like this laundry list of17300:11:00,570 --> 00:11:01,350anti17400:11:02,370 --> 00:11:06,030sort of anti establishmentscientific thinkers. Which17500:11:06,030 --> 00:11:10,050makalah is not and by the way,he's he's way he's not Yeah, are17600:11:10,290 --> 00:11:12,300opposing views, I guess aboutMC,17700:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,850se. I feel like this progress, Itried to just lay out and think17800:11:17,850 --> 00:11:22,920through the progression of howwe got from the beginning, which17900:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,300was a guy like Rogan is a he's aliberal guy, he endorsed Bernie18000:11:27,300 --> 00:11:29,430Sanders for President asocialist.18100:11:32,070 --> 00:11:39,360And how did we he had the mediago from that to just to complete18200:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,110discard needs to be cancelled?Whenever you're ready.18300:11:45,150 --> 00:11:48,390I think so. My thought was18400:11:49,440 --> 00:11:55,800that did it's a it's a, it's amarriage between? Well, they18500:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,910take him through these stages.And then he responds, because18600:11:59,910 --> 00:12:06,450they're not allowing him to justhave a difference of opinion.18700:12:06,930 --> 00:12:10,800They are being uncharitable intheir, in their response to what18800:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,760he says.18900:12:12,870 --> 00:12:17,790And I'm hoping to show a similarthing going on with Whoopi, but19000:12:17,790 --> 00:12:22,770I think that as you isolatesomeone more and more, they19100:12:23,010 --> 00:12:28,890begin to respond in kind. Andthe only way they know how to19200:12:28,890 --> 00:12:32,070which is trying to defendthemselves. I feel like you're19300:12:32,430 --> 00:12:37,170sure I think that's correct.Like they they have in the media19400:12:37,170 --> 00:12:41,730is very good at this, they leadpeople into almost a trap. But19500:12:41,730 --> 00:12:46,110they lead people into sayingthings and doing things that19600:12:46,110 --> 00:12:50,880they can then capitalize on. Sothe only thing you're absolutely19700:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,770right, the thing you've missedis why19800:12:53,820 --> 00:12:58,230yes. Maybe I'll give you the whynow and then you can show us how19900:12:58,230 --> 00:13:02,490this is going to work withWhoopi Goldberg. Okay. The it20000:13:02,490 --> 00:13:05,490took me a while to figure itout. But all I had to do was go20100:13:05,490 --> 00:13:10,650back into the timeline and lookat the history. When Rogan Rogan20200:13:10,650 --> 00:13:13,290was always a problem when hewhen he started to make $10020300:13:13,290 --> 00:13:17,400million. Then from time to timethe mainstream news cable news,20400:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,720but mainstream would make a jokeabout oh, this podcaster Oh,20500:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,540he's a misogynist. Oh, he's aracist, you know that that's it20600:13:24,540 --> 00:13:28,140wasn't much more than that theextent was kind of, then he had20700:13:28,140 --> 00:13:31,680Abigail Schreier, on who wrote abook, which countered the20800:13:31,680 --> 00:13:35,220narrative of transgenderchildren, which had been passed20900:13:35,220 --> 00:13:39,720up by many podcasters, includingAdam Carolla. Then he became a21000:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,260transphobes. Then the woke crowdwas activated, particularly at21100:13:43,260 --> 00:13:46,920Spotify, because they have atrans community there and so21200:13:46,950 --> 00:13:50,670that they had problems that'sstill all within the purview,21300:13:50,670 --> 00:13:55,380what the company is going to dowith Rogan, etc. But his problem21400:13:55,380 --> 00:13:59,640started, as you correctlyidentify, when he started21500:14:00,210 --> 00:14:03,870convincing people just becauseof his audience size, he's going21600:14:03,870 --> 00:14:06,000to convince more than themainstream and certainly the21700:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,310mainstream cable news to not buythe products that the mainstream21800:14:11,310 --> 00:14:15,060pharmaceutical companies areselling. And they are the21900:14:15,060 --> 00:14:17,940biggest advertiser ontelevision, certainly one of the22000:14:17,940 --> 00:14:21,840big ones for cable news, andthey activated their stooges and22100:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,410that's when all of that that'sbecause CNN was so obvious when22200:14:25,410 --> 00:14:28,530they started saying Rogan'seating horse dewormers he was22300:14:28,530 --> 00:14:32,940lying. And Sanjay Gupta. That'swhy Rogen had him come in what22400:14:33,030 --> 00:14:36,180what are you doing and Rogue?Sanjay Gupta from CNN, the22500:14:36,180 --> 00:14:39,060doctor could not answer thatquestion why they were lying.22600:14:39,690 --> 00:14:45,450But it unless Joe stops talkingabout pharmaceutical products22700:14:45,450 --> 00:14:50,010that compete with Big Pharma ornot using them kissed problems22800:14:50,010 --> 00:14:53,100will continue. These companiesdo not give a shit. They will22900:14:53,100 --> 00:14:56,790kill people over this. They'redoing 100 billion dollars a year23000:14:56,790 --> 00:15:00,000in revenue. They don't care whatthey have to do that23100:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,050What took place here?23200:15:02,610 --> 00:15:07,290That? I don't I don't just Idon't deny that at all. I don't23300:15:07,290 --> 00:15:10,920deny that the pharmaceuticalinfluence in the mainstream23400:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,550media had has a definitedefinite impact on this.23500:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,720It's add to that add to thatday. They cannot understand why23600:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,020Joe Rogan has 11 million peoplein his audience, whether that's23700:15:25,020 --> 00:15:27,570a true number or not, doesn'tmatter. The perception is there23800:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,810that they can't believe theyhave. They have. CNN has an23900:15:30,810 --> 00:15:34,440average of 700,000. at everygiven moment. No one has those24000:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,670numbers. This is this. Theyreally want him to go away. He's24100:15:38,670 --> 00:15:42,540a he's an embarrassment to themainstream. He's an idiot. He24200:15:42,540 --> 00:15:45,960even admits it. He's a moron. Hecan't he all he does is talk.24300:15:46,110 --> 00:15:47,580He's not he just wings it.24400:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,810This is this is the complaintsthe mainstream has. So that's a24500:15:51,810 --> 00:15:52,590perfect storm.24600:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,050Yeah, well, that's see whatbothers me, I guess is that24700:15:58,110 --> 00:16:02,970that's that's the case now. Butwhat what the what was it at24800:16:02,970 --> 00:16:05,010the, you know, the beginning, Ithink that I forgot about the24900:16:05,010 --> 00:16:08,460Abigail Schreier thing. Andthis, this, that was really the25000:16:08,490 --> 00:16:11,040that was really the beginning. Ido think you're right. Yeah, I25100:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,160think that was the beginning.And that, that is the part where25200:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,980I feel that's what I meant whenI said, Okay, what B is it,25300:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,520Rogen, stage one, I think it'sinstructive. If you find25400:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,670somebody who's in a parent,who's in sort of a parallel25500:16:23,670 --> 00:16:28,710stage, that you can then lookand see, oh, this is how it25600:16:28,710 --> 00:16:29,580begins.25700:16:30,690 --> 00:16:36,120Because what he is not at thepoint, at this later stage that25800:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,260Rogan, the cancel stage thatRogan is now she's still at the25900:16:40,260 --> 00:16:42,810be at the beginning. Now shetried as hard as she could to26000:16:42,810 --> 00:16:48,360get herself cancelled with me,like the. So I'll say what play.26100:16:50,190 --> 00:16:51,870And I'll miss set this up bysaying that26200:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,330I think Whoopi,26300:16:56,250 --> 00:16:57,000she,26400:16:58,380 --> 00:17:03,570she, it's interesting to me thatshe got cancelled because of her26500:17:03,570 --> 00:17:08,250appearance on CO bear, not forthe thing that she said26600:17:08,250 --> 00:17:11,850initially, like, that's what gother suspended was the Colbert26700:17:11,850 --> 00:17:15,870interview, not the originalthing that she did. And she26800:17:15,870 --> 00:17:21,300said, on the view, or whateverit was, and, and this would be26900:17:21,300 --> 00:17:25,890called bear clip one that issort of the beginning of the, of27000:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,990what actually got her cancelled.27100:17:29,010 --> 00:17:33,900Because I've I feel being black.When we talk about race, it's a27200:17:33,900 --> 00:17:37,710very different thing to me. So Isaid that I felt that the27300:17:37,710 --> 00:17:40,230Holocaust wasn't about race.27400:17:41,340 --> 00:17:45,480And people got very, very, veryangry and still are angry. I27500:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,680mean, I'm getting, you know, allof these, the mail from folks27600:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,690and the very real anger, becausepeople feel very differently.27700:17:55,380 --> 00:18:01,560But I thought it was a salientdiscussion. Because as a black27800:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,420person, I think of race as beingsomething that I can see. So I27900:18:06,420 --> 00:18:09,780see you, and I know what raceyou are. And28000:18:12,570 --> 00:18:16,110believe me, black people aregoing will be shut up.28100:18:18,870 --> 00:18:23,910So it's really clear what she'ssaying, if you look at her28200:18:24,120 --> 00:18:27,720statement charitably. And thisis kind of what I'm trying to28300:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,700get at with this whole thing.And what I've been thinking28400:18:29,700 --> 00:18:34,350about this week is, This allbegins with it with with taking28500:18:34,350 --> 00:18:35,160somebody28600:18:36,270 --> 00:18:40,680taking somebody's words,uncharitably as if they are28700:18:41,340 --> 00:18:42,180something28800:18:43,260 --> 00:18:45,300bad, negative.28900:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,760Gross, you're, you're you'reputting them in, you're putting29000:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,610them in a box of negativity. Andas soon as you do that, it29100:18:56,610 --> 00:19:01,770creates this schism. And so inthis case, it's really obvious29200:19:01,770 --> 00:19:05,550what the issue is with, withwith with Whoopi and what she's29300:19:05,550 --> 00:19:14,100saying. She, she cannot divorceher mind of the idea that race29400:19:14,130 --> 00:19:18,030is synonymous with skin color.And she even says it multiple29500:19:18,030 --> 00:19:21,630times. That really is the issuesyou have, but you got this.29600:19:21,630 --> 00:19:26,610There's more at play here. Dave.There is a very, very, very long29700:19:26,610 --> 00:19:32,220standing unspoken feud between aDOS let's just say black29800:19:32,220 --> 00:19:35,310Americans, Americans,descendants of slavery and29900:19:35,340 --> 00:19:36,720Jewish Americans,30000:19:37,770 --> 00:19:43,260particularly in show business.You will never hear Hotep Jesus,30100:19:43,740 --> 00:19:47,070because I've talked to him aboutthis ever criticize anyone who's30200:19:47,070 --> 00:19:49,440Jewish because he knows that'sthe end of his career.30300:19:50,790 --> 00:19:54,360We'll see that's that's inthere. Again, I don't I don't30400:19:55,620 --> 00:19:58,350know. But I do. And I'm sayingthis as as much about the people30500:19:58,350 --> 00:20:00,000who canceled as it does30600:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,480About the canceled. Yeah. Well,what I was gonna say, though, is30700:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,440I don't? I don't? I don't Ithink this transcends the reason30800:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,070why, like this is that thisisn't the Y factor that I'm30900:20:11,070 --> 00:20:17,340talking about this is the thisis the mechanism, not, not the Y31000:20:17,340 --> 00:20:21,840that causes the mechanism to beemployed the mechanism, because31100:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,350you can, you can see, the play31200:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,340would be called bear to you'llsee what I'm saying because she,31300:20:29,670 --> 00:20:35,490she, she is genuinely confusedabout what is about the problem31400:20:35,490 --> 00:20:40,740here. You know, I don't want tofake apologize, you know, I was31500:20:40,770 --> 00:20:46,020I very upset that people aremisunderstood what I was saying.31600:20:46,020 --> 00:20:50,340And so because of it, they'resaying that I'm anti semitic,31700:20:50,370 --> 00:20:55,380and that I'm denying theHolocaust and all these other31800:20:55,380 --> 00:21:01,200things, which, you know, wouldnever occurred to me to do. And31900:21:01,230 --> 00:21:04,920I was talking to our friend thewoke Jewish school teacher32000:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,560public school in Austin, the onewho the dog bit because our dog32100:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,210only bites woke people. And Iwas talking to her about this.32200:21:12,570 --> 00:21:16,530And I said, you know, Allisonhas got to know, it's really32300:21:16,530 --> 00:21:21,780only been maybe four or fiveyears that I myself. And I've32400:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,520worked with many Jews32500:21:24,870 --> 00:21:27,840understood that they do notconsider themselves to be white.32600:21:28,830 --> 00:21:32,190And Dvorak, even a few yearsago, I was like, I was talking32700:21:32,190 --> 00:21:35,880to her what she says, No, I'mnot white. I'm a Jew. Yeah, this32800:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,910is also not a known things. Ithink she got totally screwed by32900:21:38,910 --> 00:21:43,530this. I totally agree. Yeah, butit's yeah, it's really subtle.33000:21:43,530 --> 00:21:48,090It Yes, she got sideswiped. It'sreally ignorance of a lot of33100:21:48,090 --> 00:21:52,380people. Certainly the outragedpublic. They really, you know,33200:21:52,860 --> 00:21:56,130whenever you get to the Nazithing, it's game over, people's33300:21:56,130 --> 00:21:59,580eyes roll up in their head, andthey can't think straight. I33400:21:59,580 --> 00:22:04,740thought this was in, you can,you can just, you know, pop me33500:22:04,740 --> 00:22:07,620upside the head for reading aYouTube comment.33600:22:08,700 --> 00:22:12,600Ever. But I thought this was areally, this was a really good,33700:22:12,900 --> 00:22:14,220I thought was very succinct.33800:22:16,170 --> 00:22:18,870This person said Whoopi Goldbergunderstands racism from an33900:22:18,870 --> 00:22:22,620American perspective,particularly as an American34000:22:22,620 --> 00:22:26,220black woman, that understandingand experience of racism is34100:22:26,220 --> 00:22:28,740wrapped up with the experienceof living in America,34200:22:28,890 --> 00:22:32,790experiencing racism in America,and the history of racism in34300:22:32,790 --> 00:22:36,690America. And because she is socentered on that particular34400:22:36,690 --> 00:22:40,020understanding, she doesn'tunderstand how racism manifests34500:22:40,020 --> 00:22:43,230in other places. How doesexperience but other people and34600:22:43,230 --> 00:22:45,390how the histories and culturesof other countries have shaped34700:22:45,390 --> 00:22:49,740racism in those places? I thinkthat's right. It was simply Yes,34800:22:49,800 --> 00:22:55,410it is. Absolutely. It is.Absolutely right. And, and since34900:22:55,410 --> 00:22:58,590we're on it, I'm not going toplay the clip. But I dove into35000:22:58,590 --> 00:22:59,370this pretty deep.35100:23:00,750 --> 00:23:06,060They they think the comparisonof how Jews in Germany were35200:23:06,060 --> 00:23:10,650treated, versus how unvaccinatedare being treated in many35300:23:10,650 --> 00:23:14,760countries. They think that is anoutrageous comparison. So again,35400:23:14,790 --> 00:23:18,240it just shows the completeignorance. I grew up in35500:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,630Amsterdam. So I was fortunate Igot a real education in the35600:23:21,630 --> 00:23:24,060Holocaust. My friend'sgrandparents had numbers in35700:23:24,060 --> 00:23:28,590their arms. You know, so I heardsome stories. And it's just35800:23:28,620 --> 00:23:32,250ignorance. And the whole thingis that the whole thing is now35900:23:32,250 --> 00:23:36,180just centered around woke left,right, Twitter's the same thing.36000:23:36,420 --> 00:23:40,590This is just remnants of, ofstuff that keeps people busy36100:23:40,590 --> 00:23:42,840and, and keeps podcasts filled,36200:23:43,890 --> 00:23:47,790unfortunately. And that's reallywhat I kind of wanted to get at36300:23:47,790 --> 00:23:51,360was that by comparing these twothings, these are36400:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,630two people that seemingly weretargeted, meaning I don't know36500:23:57,630 --> 00:23:59,820what the right word is to use.It's not the right word I want36600:23:59,820 --> 00:24:03,120to use but seemingly, theytriggered the hell out of36700:24:03,120 --> 00:24:09,150people. And the mechanism isthat they, they now feel36800:24:09,180 --> 00:24:15,450ostracized, and confused. Youcan listen to that Instagram36900:24:15,450 --> 00:24:19,800video of Rogan. And I mean,there's sort of a genuine37000:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,160confusion there of like, I don'tI just don't understand why.37100:24:23,700 --> 00:24:25,650Yes, because he's freaking outon me.37200:24:26,730 --> 00:24:32,280Because we live in a culturewhere we are taught that if you37300:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,400have a problem, there's a middlemanager you can go to and37400:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,910complain and they'll take careof it for you. I don't like what37500:24:38,910 --> 00:24:41,940he said me and Spotify, takecare of it. I my neighbor's37600:24:41,970 --> 00:24:44,160music is too loud. I'm callingthe cops.37700:24:45,300 --> 00:24:48,090This is this is the the world welive in. Now. Luckily.37800:24:49,620 --> 00:24:52,470We came at the right time. DaveJones. I think you and I are37900:24:52,470 --> 00:24:58,620geniuses. I don't disagree. Holycrap, a doli. This is38000:24:58,650 --> 00:25:00,000unbelievable that we38100:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,050started this project in time forthis tsunami of bullcrap.38200:25:05,879 --> 00:25:06,659And38300:25:07,830 --> 00:25:10,740I'm really proud of the workthat everybody has done when I38400:25:10,740 --> 00:25:14,250can go on Tom woods. And I was Ithink I was able to what did you38500:25:14,250 --> 00:25:18,300think of my, tell me what plotpodcasting. 2.0 is, as a seven38600:25:18,300 --> 00:25:25,830year old, thought it was JT Ithink you owned the the role of38700:25:26,610 --> 00:25:31,650like explainer in that, thatmaybe you You seem to have honed38800:25:31,650 --> 00:25:35,430your, your, your, your messagethat really that was the first38900:25:35,430 --> 00:25:39,450time I thought it was real, like16 Thank you, because I worked39000:25:39,450 --> 00:25:43,560on this and and be and it wasbecause this very intellectual39100:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,070man much more intellectual thanI am. Asked me to explain39200:25:47,070 --> 00:25:51,390podcasting 2.0 As if he was aseven year old, which is39300:25:51,390 --> 00:25:54,180typically a question I blocksomeone if they say that.39400:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,320It's like, Get out of here. Thisis so this like play like I'm39500:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,230five thing? Yes, exactly.Explain like, I'm fine playing.39600:26:01,980 --> 00:26:06,390So when I told him that, and Isaid but and so I said if I was39700:26:06,390 --> 00:26:09,120going to tell a seven year old,which may be the the literacy39800:26:09,120 --> 00:26:09,960level of many.39900:26:11,250 --> 00:26:14,010Here's what I would saypodcasting. 2.0 Make sure you40000:26:14,010 --> 00:26:16,410can never get a race never Dplatformed you're always40100:26:16,410 --> 00:26:20,790available. Podcasting. 2.0 givesyou protection from privacy,40200:26:21,330 --> 00:26:25,980podcasting 2.0 updates, yourfavorite podcast in less than 6040300:26:25,980 --> 00:26:28,650seconds from the moment yourfavorite podcast publishes40400:26:29,820 --> 00:26:32,970over 15 new features, includingchapters with images and links,40500:26:32,970 --> 00:26:36,450transcripts, multiple formats,caption searchable sound bite40600:26:36,450 --> 00:26:40,170was a trailer search by personlocation seasons, live stream40700:26:40,170 --> 00:26:45,240notification, integration, crossapp comments on the way and40800:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,720built in streaming paymentsystem to support your favorite40900:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,070podcast in real time withmicropayments. Boom.41000:26:54,360 --> 00:26:58,020That was I mean, you you hitevery everything. You hit every41100:26:58,020 --> 00:27:00,510highlight and you didn't get to,like you didn't get technical.41200:27:00,510 --> 00:27:03,810You didn't say it doesn't bow bydoing this or blah blah, blah,41300:27:03,810 --> 00:27:07,560you just right. This is it. Thisis it. Right? Yeah. And then and41400:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,000so when I do that, I think Holycrap. Could everybody please41500:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,810stop what they're doing just fora second? And pat yourself on41600:27:15,810 --> 00:27:20,550the back? Yeah, look at what wehave accomplished. And not you41700:27:20,550 --> 00:27:23,190and I Dave but the wholepodcasting 2.0 movement.41800:27:24,540 --> 00:27:26,580Unfortunately, you have to codeit all. But that's just a41900:27:26,670 --> 00:27:27,540secondary thing.42000:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,080minor, minor, minor minor pointof privilege. Yeah, but that42100:27:35,310 --> 00:27:38,670I've noticed the other people,other people are now starting to42200:27:38,670 --> 00:27:42,000code more, which is really greatto see. Yep. And we're seeing42300:27:42,060 --> 00:27:43,260I'm seeing the uptake.42400:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,040Every day, there's anotherconversation about de Plata and42500:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,180Spotify really did take a lot ofI don't they they did not go and42600:27:51,180 --> 00:27:53,760take down individual episodesexcept to Rogan, I think they42700:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,530just took another 50 or so down.That were recently Yeah, today42800:27:58,740 --> 00:28:01,110that we're in this oh, you know,they're cleaning house because42900:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,160there's always pirated feedshave no agenda on Spotify. And43000:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,340we've we've threatened legalaction, you know, Dick's43100:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,110when they first launched, wewere on there, and I and I went43200:28:13,110 --> 00:28:15,540through the whole copyrightclaim bull crap. And I said,43300:28:15,540 --> 00:28:19,020Look, I'm getting really tiredof me having to tell you to stop43400:28:19,020 --> 00:28:21,600stealing my shit. I'm gonna I'mgonna do something about this.43500:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,110And then they woke up, they tookit away. Someone else put it up.43600:28:25,740 --> 00:28:28,380I had many reports of peoplegetting ads, so someone was43700:28:28,380 --> 00:28:31,110maybe even making money on it.And certainly Spotify43800:28:32,280 --> 00:28:38,100made baby yeah. And in two daysago, I got the Hey, man, your43900:28:38,100 --> 00:28:42,420podcast is gone from Spotify. Sothey are indeed deleting stuff.44000:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,420And they certainly have by theirstandards reason to delete no44100:28:45,420 --> 00:28:50,040agenda. So I will let me jump inreal quick and say I think44200:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,760anchor we've been talking aboutanchor for a while now. And my44300:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,950thesis has been that they don'tcare about anchor and put44400:28:58,950 --> 00:29:04,710probably rather see it go away.And I I think that this is44500:29:04,860 --> 00:29:09,060anchor as a liability for them.I don't see how they get44600:29:09,090 --> 00:29:11,160anything of Tell me.44700:29:12,270 --> 00:29:17,340One benefit they get from Anker.I think there were sold a bill44800:29:17,340 --> 00:29:21,690of goods. Maybe you know, we'rejust like clubhouse or whatever,44900:29:21,690 --> 00:29:25,830or you know, there's preclubhouse but I don't know it's45000:29:25,830 --> 00:29:27,840crap. Do this piece of shit.45100:29:28,890 --> 00:29:32,940Every everybody knows it. ButBut, but Spotify is actively45200:29:32,940 --> 00:29:35,490taking down podcasts that theydon't agree with.45300:29:36,540 --> 00:29:39,750And that's and that's all youneed to know. And I love sam se45400:29:39,750 --> 00:29:43,080suggestion of calling Spotifyand Apple legacy apps because45500:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,770they are they are legacy apps.45600:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,370Yeah, I think the this this kindof is funny to be in that45700:29:53,370 --> 00:29:56,250position where it was soimportant at the beginning to45800:29:56,250 --> 00:30:00,000try to decentralize things sothat they were45900:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,380be no, like, point of takedownor whatever. And now46000:30:06,150 --> 00:30:09,810as I just consider that assaultproblem, really, that's exactly46100:30:09,810 --> 00:30:13,230what That's Tom, the next thingTom Woods said was, so what do I46200:30:13,230 --> 00:30:16,200do? I say, Well, this is thegood thing we've already taken46300:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,830care of number one for you getthat free from us. You cannot be46400:30:19,830 --> 00:30:23,040taken down free. I said thatit's free. It's already done,46500:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,970you cannot be taken down. Youare always available through any46600:30:26,970 --> 00:30:29,130of the apps that support podcastindex,46700:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,780which of course is subjectivebecause it is not even. Go46800:30:33,780 --> 00:30:37,860ahead. Yeah. I was gonna say isthat part is not even the API46900:30:37,890 --> 00:30:42,840because the API. If I tried tojust conceptually do that, I47000:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,530think you did this conceptuallybetter than I did. I have been47100:30:46,530 --> 00:30:52,170able to, I tried to split thedifference between the index and47200:30:52,170 --> 00:30:55,980the API, because they're not thesame. Because you can say, well,47300:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,560well, you didn't, you know, youdidn't change anything. Now, the47400:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,590podcast index.org. That's thatthe API is just a single point47500:31:01,590 --> 00:31:05,400of failure. Yeah, but the indexis not correct you you can47600:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,920download the index. Yep. Andjust run it yourself. Or you can47700:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,030just put a little listener onpod ping. And just get the whole47800:31:15,030 --> 00:31:19,560index eventually for free. Yeah,just just record what comes47900:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,910through. Yeah, this is what Ilove about pod pig. It's gene48000:31:23,910 --> 00:31:26,670It's a monster. Yeah. I like48100:31:28,020 --> 00:31:30,360Chris Fisher's districtdescription of it.48200:31:31,380 --> 00:31:36,210Is a distributed message bus ofpodcasting. Yeah, which which48300:31:36,270 --> 00:31:39,210Brian of London I wouldn't takeit too far. You have not created48400:31:39,210 --> 00:31:41,850a great messaging system becauseit's not a great messaging48500:31:41,850 --> 00:31:46,080system is not it's it's verygood at what it does. And the48600:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,560capabilities of pod ping areastronomical, but not as a48700:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,820messaging system. And Brian wasmad at me dude. Y'all did all48800:31:53,820 --> 00:31:57,720the all the hype. People werepissed at me. Yes. Oh, my God, I48900:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,160made it. Alright, put my foot inmy mouth. Kind of what show? No49000:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,960on Twitter? Oh, would you cast acast? Oh, s castaways. custos49100:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,920castaways, I forget this Casados costos they announced that49200:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,460they're doing value value blocksin their in their interface in49300:32:14,460 --> 00:32:17,700their feed. And so I go onTwitter Holy crap. Look at this49400:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,300value for value Baba, firstone's ever and I immediately get49500:32:21,300 --> 00:32:27,030this whole hive of hate. Hate tohate three speakers before this.49600:32:29,430 --> 00:32:30,660Switch. I said49700:32:31,950 --> 00:32:34,950your rights and apologies. Ireally apologize. But you know,49800:32:34,980 --> 00:32:38,550there's only one guy from hifrom floats around. Our49900:32:38,550 --> 00:32:41,820university seems to be doingeverything he represents all of50000:32:41,820 --> 00:32:44,910hide. Where's everybody elsehelping me remember what to say?50100:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,170Oh, by the way, where's all theshit coin developers eath.50200:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,780Another another50300:32:53,580 --> 00:32:57,810another thing to tell to tossinto? That is? Yeah, three50400:32:57,810 --> 00:33:01,140speak? Sure. Sure. Yes, theywere the first but they're not a50500:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,100podcast host go see. But Iwasn't even going to get into50600:33:05,100 --> 00:33:09,180that. I thought it was ingeneral. I felt dudes, if you50700:33:09,180 --> 00:33:12,150want to utilize me fucked up wayto go about it.50800:33:13,410 --> 00:33:16,350Yeah, I mean, that was good. Onmy good side. Yeah. I mean, you50900:33:16,350 --> 00:33:19,110know, and I said, Hey, you know,and you know, someone's like,51000:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,590who is a Bitcoin Maxy. So hedoesn't give a shit about that.51100:33:23,070 --> 00:33:26,730And so I'm like, okay, look, wecan live side by side. And we51200:33:26,730 --> 00:33:30,090can live side by side. And this.No problem whatsoever. This is51300:33:30,090 --> 00:33:32,970about podcasting. I don't carehow people use it or what they51400:33:32,970 --> 00:33:35,940use. I'm happy that they usingit. I'm very proud of the work51500:33:35,940 --> 00:33:38,820that Brian London and Alicegates have done and a cast of51600:33:38,820 --> 00:33:44,4001000s. But come on, chill out alittle bit. If you want me to51700:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,340promote something, this is notthe way to do it.51800:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,240I forked this debate and Satoshistream repo repos, forked those51900:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,340over into the podcast index,GitHub organization. I've been52000:34:02,340 --> 00:34:05,280meaning to do that for a while.So Toshi st here, Satoshi52100:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,730stream. Well, I mean, it's not Idon't think it's not their52200:34:08,730 --> 00:34:12,000source code, but it's the TLVregister. Oh, yes. The one that52300:34:12,030 --> 00:34:18,480is the BIP blip. Yeah, yet.There's little blip, blip, blip52400:34:18,630 --> 00:34:19,110blip 1052500:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,810So that has been on my to dolist I've been trying to go back52600:34:24,810 --> 00:34:28,110and get some of these thingsdone that I've been not able to52700:34:28,110 --> 00:34:28,650do.52800:34:29,910 --> 00:34:32,880So people can find all thejingles and all that because Oh52900:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,210good. Yeah, that's a good idea.That's a good idea now but you53000:34:36,210 --> 00:34:39,930forked it so that means I haveto change my link. No, no, no, I53100:34:39,930 --> 00:34:43,140mean, the old ones still stillwork. I just it's now just53200:34:43,140 --> 00:34:47,820there's a copy that in our orgthat tracks the tracks that repo53300:34:47,820 --> 00:34:50,250so everything you don't changeanything. Okay, so is that how53400:34:50,250 --> 00:34:53,550GitHub works? But when you forkdoes not then you're you've53500:34:53,550 --> 00:34:56,070separated right doesn't get theupdates from the original.53600:34:57,570 --> 00:34:59,940Well, yeah, it does. It went towhen I53700:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,609I just had to go in thereupdated periodically. I'll just53800:35:02,609 --> 00:35:06,119pull fresh. Okay, okay. Okay,good. Oh, that's good. It's an53900:35:06,119 --> 00:35:07,889alias. Yeah, it is.54000:35:08,970 --> 00:35:11,640Yeah, but I'm trying to catch upon some of this stuff like54100:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640Benjamin Bellamy's booster grantMiCon54200:35:16,470 --> 00:35:19,920pansy that No, I did not see abooster gram icon where it was54300:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,970this podcast. Fantastic. Yeah,it looks fantastic. It looks54400:35:23,970 --> 00:35:24,570like a54500:35:26,010 --> 00:35:28,650it looks like a comic.54600:35:29,670 --> 00:35:34,890Like word balloon. But but withthe lightning bolt as the54700:35:34,890 --> 00:35:36,000integral part of it.54800:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,450It's hard to explain awesome I'mlooking at is54900:35:41,520 --> 00:35:47,880see this green icon? Let's seeif the oh, there it is. And you55000:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,430search on the podcast indexsocial search just search for55100:35:50,430 --> 00:35:52,650booster gram icon. It's like thefirst thing that pops up.55200:35:53,940 --> 00:35:57,810And it looks really slick. Idon't know how to get this into55300:35:57,810 --> 00:35:58,530stuff though.55400:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,500But I don't55500:36:02,610 --> 00:36:05,250give on it. No booster gramicon.55600:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,410Let me55700:36:08,460 --> 00:36:11,400let me signal it's weird. I'llmaybe if I load more. Hold on a55800:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,920second. I got a lot of boostergram stuff. Yeah. No, see. I55900:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,630made that September 21. Man.56000:36:20,070 --> 00:36:20,730Booster gram.56100:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,190telling it to you. Oh, I've beenrequested to mention from the56200:36:26,190 --> 00:36:30,810progenitor of booster gram. Thatit is indeed booster gram. It is56300:36:30,810 --> 00:36:34,950BOSTAG ra M No hyphens?56400:36:36,150 --> 00:36:39,870That's right. Yes. No hyphens inbooster and it's also not56500:36:39,870 --> 00:36:42,930booster gram. No, it's notbooster gram either. No.56600:36:45,030 --> 00:36:48,240Well, this is interesting. Didyou get it? Yeah, I'm looking at56700:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,670it right now. I'm going to putit in the show notes. It's56800:36:50,670 --> 00:36:53,490pretty slick looking in it. Thisis from the font. This is from56900:36:53,490 --> 00:36:57,240the booster gram font. Yes. Fromthe podcast font and it's got a57000:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,790podcast font. That's what Imean. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's57100:36:59,790 --> 00:37:03,150like a lightning bolt. But inthe shape of a word balloon,57200:37:03,150 --> 00:37:06,690like a message like a booster.Yeah. That is I just thought57300:37:06,690 --> 00:37:10,230that was really cool. Which oneto mention. I like it a lot. The57400:37:10,230 --> 00:37:13,500yellow throws me off, but that'sjust me. I have called one57500:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,890widget. I think he tweaked thatcolor for57600:37:18,180 --> 00:37:21,270fountain because it fits theircolor scheme. Okay, that's the I57700:37:21,270 --> 00:37:23,430don't think it's you can colorit any way you want. Because57800:37:23,430 --> 00:37:26,100it's a font. Like a CSS, right?Okay.57900:37:27,570 --> 00:37:30,870I Bellamy man he's doing stuff.Have you tried out to cache the58000:37:30,870 --> 00:37:31,380pod yet?58100:37:32,670 --> 00:37:40,680Yeah, that's I built that. Thatsandbox feed for the this film's58200:37:41,310 --> 00:37:43,410workshop. Right, right. Wehaven't tried but you haven't58300:37:43,410 --> 00:37:45,750tried the import function yet?Which was the one reason we58400:37:45,750 --> 00:37:48,930weren't using it. Blog? Whydon't we try it live? Let's do58500:37:48,930 --> 00:37:49,530it live.58600:37:51,210 --> 00:37:53,640Wow, walking on the tightrope,Dave Jones.58700:37:55,500 --> 00:37:59,670See? See, I guess. Because thatwas the main thing is we just58800:37:59,670 --> 00:38:03,270couldn't. I mean, it was nothingfor me to configure. Anyway, now58900:38:03,270 --> 00:38:06,090that I've understood a littlebit more thanks, Alex gates,59000:38:06,090 --> 00:38:09,870about the true nature of youknow, obviously activity Pub is59100:38:09,870 --> 00:38:14,550a big part of, you know, thewhole system. And that's not59200:38:14,550 --> 00:38:16,260gonna work simply59300:38:17,430 --> 00:38:21,750on the Umbral, you will have topunch holes in the firewall and59400:38:21,750 --> 00:38:25,200get some real IPS going, Iguess, which, of course, is I59500:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,900understand from a securitystandpoint, not a great idea if59600:38:27,900 --> 00:38:29,880you have your node on the samemachine?59700:38:31,260 --> 00:38:34,590Well, I'm not. I'm not worriedabout it, either. But, you know,59800:38:34,620 --> 00:38:39,270I understand the Umbral has hadsome security issues in general,59900:38:39,420 --> 00:38:42,180that we just have to just youforget stuff, you know, like,60000:38:42,210 --> 00:38:44,670oh, yeah, this is great. Andthen you know, that's wide open.60100:38:44,700 --> 00:38:49,050Oops. Yeah. And that's it shutup. Put. That's a question.60200:38:49,050 --> 00:38:52,620Should I put a password on theon Hello pad?60300:38:54,450 --> 00:38:57,510And then just in case? Well, I'drather I'd prefer to have it on60400:38:57,510 --> 00:38:59,340tour before that was thequestion.60500:39:00,570 --> 00:39:03,060I'd love I love just to accessit outside the house.60600:39:04,290 --> 00:39:09,690Can you not? I don't think itruns over tour. I saw somebody60700:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,430had it configured on tourbecause I saw somebody posted60800:39:14,430 --> 00:39:18,390some posted a screenshot of apad and it had a tour address in60900:39:18,390 --> 00:39:18,600it.61000:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,310Hmm, maybe that's just somethingthey did. So yeah, I don't know61100:39:23,310 --> 00:39:25,830if you can. I think you have toconfigure that somehow.61200:39:26,850 --> 00:39:28,410Mm hmm.61300:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,090I don't know.61400:39:31,230 --> 00:39:36,120Yeah, minor details, my friend.Thank you for the Excel export61500:39:36,150 --> 00:39:40,260on heli pad our booster grammonitoring system app, I say,61600:39:40,770 --> 00:39:45,180Oh, my goodness. Ah, that's alot of fun. I got a lot of data.61700:39:45,180 --> 00:39:49,050I have four different shows. Youknow, I'd love that it has the,61800:39:49,110 --> 00:39:51,570you know, the actual them couldonly get like a percentage for61900:39:51,570 --> 00:39:54,900most of them just for monitoringpurposes. But you can see the62000:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,920total amount you can do chartsand graphs and pivot tables.62100:39:59,370 --> 00:40:00,000It's really62200:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,770fought Yeah, pivot table. Whoa,look at this shit. Oh man. It's62300:40:04,860 --> 00:40:08,490really exciting. It's exciting,man. It's really exciting. We62400:40:08,490 --> 00:40:12,480still have a lot of apps kind ofsending data in a manky way. I62500:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,710mean, usernames, people. Um, Iguess people just kind of figure62600:40:16,710 --> 00:40:19,380that their name shows up ifthey're sending a message, which62700:40:19,380 --> 00:40:23,460it doesn't for many. Oh, yeah.Like if they're coming from62800:40:24,420 --> 00:40:28,560breeze especially breeze. Yeah,and fountain I think is62900:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,640usernames.63000:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,380Yeah. Fountain still allows thesub sub par level booster grams63100:40:37,380 --> 00:40:38,610to come through which is funny.63200:40:39,810 --> 00:40:43,140What do you mean? Like, like alow amount? Yeah, like once at63300:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,960once a head? Yeah, cuz, youknow, they've got a few of those63400:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,310today. The the studio door isusually is open as it's on the63500:40:50,310 --> 00:40:54,600other side of the house, but Ihave the I have the Umbral sound63600:40:54,630 --> 00:40:58,350cranked up till we hit like pewpew like oh, okay, let's go63700:40:58,350 --> 00:41:00,330check. Six SATs.63800:41:01,710 --> 00:41:05,610Tim, Tim from Ellen pay Tim Kfrom Ellen pay. Yeah, but the63900:41:05,610 --> 00:41:08,790emojis work. Thanks, Tim.Thanks. I came all the way over64000:41:08,790 --> 00:41:10,050here to see my winnings.64100:41:11,130 --> 00:41:16,410But I was delighted to hearJames on pod land. Talk about64200:41:17,130 --> 00:41:21,450how you pitch value for value inyour podcast, which is not pay64300:41:21,450 --> 00:41:25,800tip me. But you know the conceptof value. I was very happy to64400:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,610hear him do that.64500:41:27,990 --> 00:41:30,240And I have not listened to thaton yesterday's show. Have you64600:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,010seen Yes. Listen to the new one.Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and listen to64700:41:35,010 --> 00:41:39,420yet because if you if you say Iwant to tip you'll get 15% 20 be64800:41:39,420 --> 00:41:43,92020. To say value for value, youcan get a very different result.64900:41:44,850 --> 00:41:46,500Yeah, I think that that's a65000:41:48,060 --> 00:41:51,480that's something that you alsodid on Tom Woods show, which I65100:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,830think was really important isyou went through the whole value65200:41:55,830 --> 00:41:59,550for value concept, because it'sgot, what I see a lot of people65300:41:59,550 --> 00:42:00,510doing is65400:42:01,770 --> 00:42:06,570they turn it on and say where'smy money? Yeah, exactly. They65500:42:06,630 --> 00:42:11,070turn to enable, they enablevalue for value in the value65600:42:11,070 --> 00:42:15,390blog. And maybe they have evenhave an Umbral, or something65700:42:15,390 --> 00:42:18,390like that. And then they neveractually tell their listeners65800:42:18,540 --> 00:42:23,130they have it or to go to newpodcast apps.com. That's yeah,65900:42:23,130 --> 00:42:27,690that's all that's the minimum.Say, are you on a legacy app?66000:42:27,990 --> 00:42:31,320Well, if they cancel me, I won'tbe here. Would you like to know66100:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,140when my show was updated rightaway instead of waiting three66200:42:34,140 --> 00:42:38,250hours for Apple to get off itsass? Maybe even 30 minutes? Who66300:42:38,250 --> 00:42:42,960cares? Speaking of speaking ofputting66400:42:44,100 --> 00:42:49,230up so I've been Oh, I wasworking out with the gas from66500:42:49,230 --> 00:42:57,000blueberry. How to do pod payingfor power press? Because, you66600:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,720know, that's the issue there andcast cast us is going to have66700:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,730the same issue. BecauseCastillo's has WordPress simple.66800:43:05,970 --> 00:43:09,960Yeah. The plugins like supersimple podcasting, I think is66900:43:11,460 --> 00:43:15,810a thing. So seriously simple,seriously simple podcasting67000:43:15,810 --> 00:43:20,370plugin. And he was getting. SoPowerPress is seriously simple.67100:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,920allow you to have their to hostyour own podcast on your own67200:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,300server, but then you just hostit up up on casters or67300:43:30,300 --> 00:43:35,040blueberry. And so I was workingout with the blueberry guys on67400:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,070how on how to allow that is whatwe came up with. was in I talked67500:43:41,070 --> 00:43:44,820to Brian and Alex about this howto allow what Dave I'm sorry.67600:43:45,510 --> 00:43:48,120How to allow a67700:43:49,620 --> 00:43:53,580word random WordPress blog tohit pod ping to hit pod ping in67800:43:53,580 --> 00:43:57,360a safe way. Yeah, yes. in a safeway for us. You mean for us?67900:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,020Yeah. So what I was thinkingabout is, you know, there's68000:44:01,020 --> 00:44:03,330really this is really not anissue of68100:44:05,670 --> 00:44:06,810it's not an issue.68200:44:08,190 --> 00:44:12,630Your only attack vector is a isa do is like some sort of denial68300:44:12,630 --> 00:44:14,610of service. Yeah.68400:44:16,080 --> 00:44:22,290You know, if somebody were tojust get a key and hit you with,68500:44:22,290 --> 00:44:22,620like,68600:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,23025,000 pod pings in threeseconds. I don't know. Well, I68700:44:28,230 --> 00:44:32,400mean, the issue that having akey or not having a key doesn't68800:44:32,400 --> 00:44:39,000really stop that. The theauthorization token for pod ping68900:44:39,030 --> 00:44:43,020is not really. I mean, that'sweak security. I mean, it's the69000:44:43,020 --> 00:44:47,040same with the AP with our API. Imean, anyone can DDoS the API, I69100:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,310guess, under the samecircumstances. Yeah. I mean,69200:44:50,310 --> 00:44:53,010anybody can get a denial serviceattack is not going to be69300:44:53,010 --> 00:44:56,940stopped by an authorization No,you just don't want shit data69400:44:56,940 --> 00:44:59,850getting in? Yeah. So69500:45:00,810 --> 00:45:04,950and all. So what we came up withwas69600:45:06,690 --> 00:45:09,930the DDoS, the DDoS thing can beis going to be solved at the IP69700:45:09,930 --> 00:45:12,510level. That's not good. That'snot a broken. That's a69800:45:12,510 --> 00:45:16,980Cloudflare thing. Right? Yeah,exactly. So what we came up with69900:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,770was just this idea of a70000:45:21,540 --> 00:45:26,430half token. So essentially, theauthorization token for pod ping70100:45:26,430 --> 00:45:28,350is normally 44 characters long,70200:45:29,850 --> 00:45:30,510random.70300:45:31,590 --> 00:45:38,370So you get whatever 44 Today isthe entropy. So then you have 4470400:45:38,370 --> 00:45:39,600characters there.70500:45:40,650 --> 00:45:45,390And then we will for the pot, orfor the power press installs,70600:45:45,690 --> 00:45:49,050and other things that are likethat with when they're going to70700:45:49,050 --> 00:45:54,060be distributed. We just havelike a 22 character ash that70800:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,660have like a prefix, the firsthalf, but the token doesn't70900:45:57,660 --> 00:46:02,430change. And the second half israndomly generated. So then all71000:46:02,430 --> 00:46:08,820the power press, and seriouslysimple installs would use that,71100:46:09,030 --> 00:46:10,890that stable 22 character,71200:46:12,870 --> 00:46:17,700hash a 20 character hash, andthen add on their own unique71300:46:17,700 --> 00:46:21,270random hash at the end of it foran additional 22. So that we71400:46:21,270 --> 00:46:26,520know this up there, this is apower press install. And then71500:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,830because every one of them willalso be unique. We'll know if71600:46:31,830 --> 00:46:36,000any one in particular goes nuts.Right. Okay. That's a good idea.71700:46:36,780 --> 00:46:41,040I was also thinking obviously,you know, it would seem an easy71800:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,490way71900:46:42,540 --> 00:46:45,300that you can't hit the pod pinguntil you at least have72000:46:46,020 --> 00:46:47,040published on72100:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,940blueberry or on costos.72200:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,840You need to be published therefirst before you can get a key,72300:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,610right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Allright. Yeah. Yeah, that would be72400:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,340that'd be part of the thing. Sothen the install the plug in72500:47:02,340 --> 00:47:05,220itself would be would justgenerate it for you, you know,72600:47:05,220 --> 00:47:10,650generate that key for you. Andthey, you know, Angelo, and Todd72700:47:10,650 --> 00:47:13,050over there. Blueberry like,yeah, that sounds like it works.72800:47:13,050 --> 00:47:17,310I think they're working on that.Cool. Is it built yet? No. Yeah.72900:47:17,490 --> 00:47:21,120Work? That that's a big deal,because it's a huge deal. You73000:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,290kidding me? That's another largechunk right there. That Oh,73100:47:25,350 --> 00:47:26,790yeah, that's a bunch.73200:47:27,930 --> 00:47:33,810The, those are 1000s ofinstalls. They're now taken care73300:47:33,810 --> 00:47:36,060of from that again, and can hitpod pain.73400:47:37,590 --> 00:47:40,770Yeah. So anyway, that I love itfelt good to solve that problem.73500:47:40,830 --> 00:47:42,810Now, that's a great problem.We've been waiting for this for73600:47:42,810 --> 00:47:43,740a long time.73700:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,310And then that's just then andcongratulations to cast those by73800:47:50,310 --> 00:47:53,730the way. I think that's, that'sgreat. What they did. Yes, the73900:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,300so they have you Did you seewhat they did? They just put the74000:47:57,300 --> 00:48:01,500field in there. You can justYeah, value valuable? Yep. Yeah.74100:48:01,830 --> 00:48:04,920And an education. You know,that's what most hosting74200:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,410companies are good at iseducating. And if anyone ever74300:48:07,410 --> 00:48:11,790wants some help from me, I'd behappy to do anything you need in74400:48:11,790 --> 00:48:15,990your education process of youryour customers, if I can help.74500:48:16,980 --> 00:48:17,310Now.74600:48:18,630 --> 00:48:24,060I noticed I think, I think itwas Matt from CAST, as was what74700:48:24,060 --> 00:48:27,840had talked on Twitter. And Marcojumped in about, they're talking74800:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,530about value for value. And hewas saying that Marco was74900:48:31,530 --> 00:48:35,820mentioning that there would be aprivacy issue with with any sort75000:48:35,820 --> 00:48:39,510of micro payments system.Privacy, we should know, I75100:48:39,510 --> 00:48:43,830think, no, I think his stancewas differently. But okay. What75200:48:43,860 --> 00:48:46,710he what he was saying was anypodcast app is going to use a75300:48:46,710 --> 00:48:51,810micro payment system to bealways sending these payments to75400:48:51,810 --> 00:48:57,180the podcaster would be gettingan API somewhere. Yeah, I75500:48:57,180 --> 00:49:01,170wouldn't know what would knowwhat would know what you're75600:49:01,170 --> 00:49:06,810sending. Let me read you what hesaid. Today. People People often75700:49:06,810 --> 00:49:09,510asked me to integratecryptocurrency podcast payment75800:49:09,510 --> 00:49:13,170systems into the app. Sorry, Icurrently have no plans, among75900:49:13,170 --> 00:49:16,410other reasons, including therisks and controversies inherent76000:49:16,410 --> 00:49:19,860to crypto. I simply prefer notto involve myself in how76100:49:19,860 --> 00:49:23,250podcasters make their money.That's pretty clear.76200:49:25,170 --> 00:49:29,250Yeah, I didn't see that part.But I thought so. I think that's76300:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,760that's that's other issues. Andthen this one,76400:49:33,810 --> 00:49:36,780right? Yeah, that's really thedefinitive thing. Yeah, fine.76500:49:36,780 --> 00:49:40,200Um, yeah. I think that's what itis. Yeah. Yeah. No, no problems76600:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,480with that at all. Everybodymakes their own decisions. But76700:49:43,770 --> 00:49:47,100this is what this is what I wasreferencing, he says, I haven't76800:49:47,100 --> 00:49:49,410looked too deeply. But mostsystems require the app to make76900:49:49,410 --> 00:49:52,740an API call somewhere whenlisting activity happens. So the77000:49:52,740 --> 00:49:55,530network can send micro paymentsaccordingly. As you can imagine,77100:49:55,530 --> 00:49:59,400this raises privacy concerns.That's just simply not true. We77200:49:59,400 --> 00:49:59,970had that. That's it.77300:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,330That's what I wanted to talkabout is not, you know, hit his77400:50:03,330 --> 00:50:06,150decisions or his decision. Andthat's fine. And not, I'm not77500:50:06,150 --> 00:50:07,830really going to be in thebusiness of trying to convince77600:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,410anybody because I just don'twant to do that. Other than77700:50:10,410 --> 00:50:13,530that, I would say, it's not justpodcasters making money.77800:50:13,590 --> 00:50:17,430Everybody makes money, includingpodcast, app developers. That's77900:50:17,430 --> 00:50:20,070all yeah, there's the there'sthat Yeah, that's absolutely.78000:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,790But that I did think it wasworth the reason I brought it up78100:50:23,790 --> 00:50:24,450was because78200:50:25,830 --> 00:50:30,150lightning, normally that wouldbe right. Normally, if you're78300:50:30,150 --> 00:50:33,450going through something likeStripe, or some sort of API line78400:50:33,450 --> 00:50:37,170that what he said is exactlyright. And even if you're going78500:50:37,170 --> 00:50:42,660to ln pay, that's right. But thedifference in the unique part of78600:50:42,660 --> 00:50:46,710lightning is that you don't haveis that that doesn't have to be78700:50:46,710 --> 00:50:51,840true, because you can run alightning node, and you can run78800:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,000your own instance of LM pay. Andthen you create the wallets and78900:50:57,030 --> 00:51:00,690all the encrypted transactions79000:51:01,740 --> 00:51:05,160leave directly from your system,right? It's peer to peer and79100:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,910everything is done with onionbased encryption. So that79200:51:09,210 --> 00:51:12,570there's a this may be somethingthat people don't know also,79300:51:13,260 --> 00:51:16,680when if I send somebody apayment through lightning, if my79400:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,760notes into your note a paymentand it has to go through four79500:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,650other hops to get to you theintermediate hops the three79600:51:25,650 --> 00:51:28,320nodes in between that it had togo through to get to you79700:51:29,610 --> 00:51:34,080it cannot see anything about thepayment they can't even tell79800:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,050where it's from or where it'sultimately going to they only79900:51:37,050 --> 00:51:39,150know where they got it fromwhere they're passing it off to.80000:51:39,660 --> 00:51:42,240Right They know Yeah, exactly.They know the one they got it80100:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,420from and the next one in thechain they do not and they don't80200:51:45,420 --> 00:51:48,360even know if that's the finaldestination is the final80300:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,740destination correct Yeah. So itthat's that's the only reason I80400:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,430brought it up is because youknow I respect his decisions and80500:51:56,430 --> 00:52:00,900his his product but thatspecific thing with lightning it80600:52:01,170 --> 00:52:05,070that happens to be different youdon't there's not the privacy80700:52:05,070 --> 00:52:07,710issue there that there normallywould be with last drive or80800:52:07,710 --> 00:52:12,540something like that, man I justlove showing the roundabout now80900:52:12,540 --> 00:52:15,660I was on awesome on the bitrefill podcast this was81000:52:15,660 --> 00:52:18,210fantastic the bit refillpodcast,81100:52:19,260 --> 00:52:20,970which is just a bunch of dudes81200:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,730like 2028 2930 year olds one inNigeria who was in a supermarket81300:52:26,730 --> 00:52:30,060it was really weird it wasreally cool um81400:52:31,110 --> 00:52:33,750yeah, I don't think I've everheard of this podcast bit refill81500:52:34,230 --> 00:52:36,990I think it's I think it'ssponsored by bit refill you know81600:52:36,990 --> 00:52:40,020the that's the thing that youcan you can get81700:52:41,340 --> 00:52:46,020loyalty cards for Yeah, and soyou know, they knew about81800:52:46,020 --> 00:52:49,500podcasting 2.0 But they reallyweren't set up yet with with81900:52:49,710 --> 00:52:52,500with value for value so let meshow you so I did just because82000:52:52,500 --> 00:52:56,640they were on Zoom I did a screenshare I brought up heli pad and82100:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,720then I popped up another tabwith I think a curio caster to82200:53:00,720 --> 00:53:05,700now watch and I said I showedthe the booster gram that I sent82300:53:05,700 --> 00:53:10,230and then switch the tab and Iforgot to turn up the the fader82400:53:10,230 --> 00:53:14,400for the for the PC. Oh yeah. Thedamn it was an impromptu demo.82500:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,480You know, I'm refining it. Andit was just so beautiful.82600:53:19,980 --> 00:53:23,730You know, like 15 seconds later.Oop, there it is. And they're82700:53:23,730 --> 00:53:28,860like ah, is this the to the moonpodcast? No, it was called the82800:53:28,890 --> 00:53:32,010bit refill podcast a82900:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,290bit refill, just bit refill uswith it's got to be on the83000:53:37,290 --> 00:53:40,260index. Maybe it was just somedudes who were just catfishing83100:53:40,260 --> 00:53:40,800me I don't know83200:53:47,310 --> 00:53:50,610there was some it was really itwas this kid on Twitter. He's83300:53:50,610 --> 00:53:55,470Dutch he's 14 And he's like, Iwant I want to I want to you83400:53:55,470 --> 00:54:00,150know buy some bitcoin but I haveto be I have to be 18 I can't83500:54:00,150 --> 00:54:05,250buy bitcoin anywhere. And he'sclearly young you know he's like83600:54:05,250 --> 00:54:08,310I really want to get into thisand he tagged me because I've83700:54:08,340 --> 00:54:13,050known in Holland and I said wellthen get a wallet says no but83800:54:13,050 --> 00:54:15,690wallets he didn't quiteunderstand it look read this. I83900:54:15,750 --> 00:54:17,970sent him to learn me abitcoin.com84000:54:19,050 --> 00:54:22,620and said read this and then geta wallet and they and then he84100:54:22,620 --> 00:54:25,920sent me his bitcoin address hefigured it out and I was I sent84200:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,520him 50 bucks in Bitcoin. Thiskid like this is the next mogul84300:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,270you watch he's like, Okay, I'mgonna guard this with my life.84400:54:33,270 --> 00:54:35,850And I said oh, by the way, whenI sent it to you this morning,84500:54:35,850 --> 00:54:38,430it's up 11% Since then, soenjoy.84600:54:39,780 --> 00:54:43,890This is put a young man on theright path he gave him he gave84700:54:43,890 --> 00:54:44,970him an annuity little84800:54:46,140 --> 00:54:50,370little little orange pillingthere so let me see. Curio84900:54:50,370 --> 00:54:53,190caster I love the kind of thenew layout the new setting is85000:54:53,190 --> 00:54:53,790interesting.85100:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,680He's kind of promoted he's youcan promote your podcast now on85200:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,940curio caster I guess85300:55:01,319 --> 00:55:03,839Oh, really? I think that's good.Yeah, I think you can he has85400:55:03,839 --> 00:55:08,249promoted podcasts and let's see.I like that. I like85500:55:09,300 --> 00:55:15,510the ad. I told a cache what itwas at that workshop that for a85600:55:15,510 --> 00:55:19,230couple weeks ago, I mentionedsomebody asked in their head,85700:55:19,410 --> 00:55:23,160how do I promote my podcast? Youknow, what's the best way to get85800:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,150my podcast at the record? Idon't know. That kind of stuff.85900:55:27,150 --> 00:55:30,390I'm not a podcast. Marketing.Sorry. Yes, it is bit bit86000:55:30,390 --> 00:55:33,210refills to the moon podcast.Yes. That's the one. Okay. I86100:55:33,210 --> 00:55:35,580guess my engine is not up yet.Yeah, that's the one. Yeah.86200:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,000Well, they don't have a valuablelook. No, I gave him shit about86300:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,500that. So what's wrong with youpeople?86400:55:43,260 --> 00:55:49,170I mean, Nigeria. So what? Isaid, Hey, we know people. Yeah.86500:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,530Yeah, they need to jump on thebus. So anyway, I86600:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,050forgot was talking to Moses.86700:55:56,340 --> 00:55:59,490We were talking about the demo.86800:56:01,170 --> 00:56:06,450We heavily heavily pad demo,Curia cafeteria. astir. Oh, the86900:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,130promotion sponsored pod monsterpocket, or whatever. Yeah. But87000:56:11,370 --> 00:56:15,750she said, Well, you know how topromote my podcast. And that was87100:56:15,810 --> 00:56:19,020in what I said was, I think,anytime is this is right.87200:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,800Because I'm a dummy on thesethings is buying podcast87300:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,390advertising, buying an ad foryour podcast, in an app in a87400:56:27,390 --> 00:56:33,660podcast app, like pod LP, orovercast or any curio cast any87500:56:33,660 --> 00:56:37,950of these apps, this support bysort of in app advertising87600:56:38,010 --> 00:56:42,960banner thing? You can buy that?Yep. Or buy ads on other87700:56:43,110 --> 00:56:46,920podcasts. Like to me if you'regoing to spend some money to87800:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,340like promote your show. I try tobuild an audience, if you're87900:56:50,370 --> 00:56:54,810determined to do it that way.Like you should go to where88000:56:55,110 --> 00:56:57,600people are that are alreadylistening to podcasts. Yes, it88100:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,440makes sense to me.88200:57:00,030 --> 00:57:05,820Maybe, um, you know, that's no,this. This is what I've always88300:57:05,820 --> 00:57:09,690been hoping for. And now weactually have a way to share88400:57:09,690 --> 00:57:14,970revenues like, hey, you know,Steven Be curio caster. If you88500:57:14,970 --> 00:57:18,300put me on your promoted page,why don't I give you you know,88600:57:18,330 --> 00:57:23,7303% value block? Yeah, yes. Yes,this is the kind of stuff that88700:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,140anybody can do today. The onlything is, I would say, Steven B,88800:57:28,140 --> 00:57:32,520where do I can't? This isanother thing, developers. Two88900:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,950things actually, please considerputting a simple defined contact89000:57:39,150 --> 00:57:39,900in your app.89100:57:41,070 --> 00:57:43,980People actually do you know,they don't, they're not really89200:57:43,980 --> 00:57:47,220used to it anymore because ofSilicon Valley. But if you make89300:57:47,220 --> 00:57:51,960it easier, and more apparent topeople do really like feeding89400:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,800back information and thenhearing back from their favorite89500:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,460app developer, it really doeswork but we have a very poor89600:57:59,460 --> 00:58:02,250culture of this right now. Theculture is typically a piece of89700:58:02,250 --> 00:58:06,330crap app, let me delete it, getanother one. But But podcasts,89800:58:07,290 --> 00:58:10,950app users are very patient theyare traditionally quite patient89900:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,760and they understand and this isindependent and you know, I90000:58:15,210 --> 00:58:18,240Yeah, they've been tainted a bitby the by the legacy apps but90100:58:18,360 --> 00:58:24,450make it apparent. Also, I haveto say, Piero Castor added $190200:58:24,450 --> 00:58:27,480translator in the boostergrammar section90300:58:28,530 --> 00:58:34,140where it updates dynamically soyou can see fee price very very90400:58:34,140 --> 00:58:37,110good at this is something I'vebeen wanting to have for a long90500:58:37,110 --> 00:58:39,390time. But stop being purists.90600:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,070It really gives you you know,I've even up my own booster90700:58:44,070 --> 00:58:47,430grams like what is this 69 centsthis is stupid. Let me give a90800:58:47,430 --> 00:58:51,330little bit more his dump. Oh,when the when the price is90900:58:51,330 --> 00:58:54,180fairly stable. I get used towhat the amounts are but then91000:58:54,180 --> 00:58:57,090when it swings a lot I yeah, Ireally does throw me off my91100:58:57,090 --> 00:58:57,270game.91200:58:59,490 --> 00:59:02,850It's somewhere between two and3000 SATs $1 typically Yeah,91300:59:02,850 --> 00:59:03,330it's like91400:59:04,380 --> 00:59:07,260I mean, I've spent I have therehave been months when I've spent91500:59:07,260 --> 00:59:12,090100 bucks on podcasts and noboosting and I don't know. I91600:59:12,090 --> 00:59:16,620didn't even know I did. Yeah, Iback at the end of the month.91700:59:16,620 --> 00:59:19,800I'm like, Oh, wow, that boostedthe crap out of people. I love91800:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,040having the I love having theUmbro because it's it's really91900:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,940my node for me, you know, and sostuff comes in there and I think92000:59:26,940 --> 00:59:28,590I started with 150 bucks.92100:59:30,180 --> 00:59:31,230On that note, excuse me.92200:59:32,970 --> 00:59:36,570And I use it to refill mywallets and I can't spend it92300:59:36,570 --> 00:59:37,320fast enough.92400:59:38,430 --> 00:59:42,000I'm telling you, it just comesin and goes out. And by the way92500:59:42,030 --> 00:59:45,660on your Umbral definitely set upthe blue wallet, something or92600:59:45,660 --> 00:59:49,140other whatever it's called mostI think called the Blue what92700:59:49,140 --> 00:59:52,980like the mobile? Yeah, so whatyou can do, it's kind of like92800:59:52,980 --> 00:59:58,380Elon, Elon bits only. Maybe itis actually Elon bits. That's92900:59:58,380 --> 00:59:59,940probably what it is. A second93001:00:00,810 --> 01:00:04,290Just get this app connected tomine. Yeah, but if you do93101:00:05,730 --> 01:00:09,060I think it's the Ellen bitserver. Login.93201:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,900Oh, sorry. Yes, see, let's seeconnect wallet. You can build93301:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,080blue wallets an option yes bluewallet because then you can set93401:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,380up93501:00:20,430 --> 01:00:23,790little mini wallets just like ashared node, right. So you can93601:00:23,790 --> 01:00:28,020set up as many of these bluewallets on on one app you can93701:00:28,020 --> 01:00:30,900give, you can have your friends,your family, everybody can set93801:00:30,900 --> 01:00:35,340up the blue wallet, and justusing your node. And so I set up93901:00:35,340 --> 01:00:38,220a blue wallet and then Itransferred money into that blue94001:00:38,220 --> 01:00:41,250wallet. Because it's kind ofhard to send from your own node94101:00:41,250 --> 01:00:43,260is like not really possible mostof the time.94201:00:45,420 --> 01:00:49,140So this is this is really ayou'll love it because it works94301:00:49,140 --> 01:00:52,350over Tor and it'll just and youI use that I now use my own my94401:00:52,350 --> 01:00:55,380own little node for smallpayments with the blue wallet.94501:00:56,310 --> 01:01:01,380That's cool. Yeah, I didn't needto do that. Yeah, man so much94601:01:01,380 --> 01:01:01,980cool shit.94701:01:03,150 --> 01:01:06,750This was at a true Uncle Jim nothing, then. Not really because94801:01:06,750 --> 01:01:11,370you can't you can't keys intoit. Although from what I saw on94901:01:11,370 --> 01:01:17,010a US on GitHub stuff activity, Iguess ln bits is now key Sen95001:01:17,010 --> 01:01:20,850compatible. So the the walletyou create with with LM bits,95101:01:21,090 --> 01:01:25,260art or do work with key send?Oh, yeah, I read I'm not sure I95201:01:25,500 --> 01:01:28,290haven't looked. I haven't. No,not enough time in the day.95301:01:29,010 --> 01:01:32,160There's not there's really not.Hey, by the way, we're late95401:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,490today with the board meeting.Which happens which by the way,95501:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,090board members that's why we havethe extra food here. You notice95601:01:39,090 --> 01:01:43,350we have Mexican we have someTexas Beef here from KNC cattle95701:01:43,350 --> 01:01:45,660we got a couple other things foryou. We're sorry to keep you95801:01:45,660 --> 01:01:46,230over dinner.95901:01:47,790 --> 01:01:48,690But that's a big one for96001:01:50,100 --> 01:01:55,020me. Oh, my red wine. But we werewe delayed the start because you96101:01:55,020 --> 01:01:57,600were at work with the move.How'd that go? And you were96201:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,260moving your company to anotherfloor or something? Yeah, it was96301:02:01,290 --> 01:02:03,780internal move is like the thirdfloor moved down to the ground96401:02:03,780 --> 01:02:07,800floor half half of his becauseit was a bunch of just a bunch96501:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,450of moving around bunch of phonesystem work.96601:02:10,860 --> 01:02:11,220That is96701:02:12,390 --> 01:02:14,760a waste the word. Yeah. I haveto pull the cable. Did you?96801:02:15,300 --> 01:02:18,660Yeah, yeah, we did all of ourcabling and stuff. So you have96901:02:18,660 --> 01:02:22,260people on Chad minions likelittle little people. Yeah, for97001:02:22,260 --> 01:02:26,490you, right. It's me and oneother guy. You and your minion97101:02:26,550 --> 01:02:31,830your man. Amazing. Yeah,exactly. Yeah. No, I can knock97201:02:31,830 --> 01:02:34,590encrypted I can crimp the hellout of a fire cat five cable now97301:02:34,590 --> 01:02:38,010I'm I'm I'm very good atcabling, but it's just it just97401:02:38,010 --> 01:02:42,000takes forever. dirty work isdirty. Work is dirty. Just get97501:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,500dirty. I got I got my guy herehooking up my generator. Do you97601:02:46,500 --> 01:02:49,350want to talk funnily? Yeah,yeah, I got these guys that come97701:02:49,350 --> 01:02:50,700in after hours. You know.97801:02:51,930 --> 01:02:54,990I pulled some strings, becauseit's hard. But you can't you97901:02:54,990 --> 01:02:57,720can't even get a petroleum tankright now if you want to buy98001:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,300one. So I said well, this wasthis thing over here and we'll98101:03:00,300 --> 01:03:01,980hook it up to my existing tank.Okay.98201:03:03,180 --> 01:03:08,250This a propane generator? Yeah,yes. Or what? Propane 2298301:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,600kilowatt? Generac98401:03:10,830 --> 01:03:13,590Oh, that's a big one. That's abig size one. Yeah, phase or98501:03:13,590 --> 01:03:16,230single phase three. I could runI could run the whole house with98601:03:16,230 --> 01:03:18,930it. But you know, we're doingwe're doing it properly. So98701:03:18,930 --> 01:03:22,170you've got selective selectiveswitches, you can you know,98801:03:22,170 --> 01:03:25,260determine what you want to haveon things pretty things pretty98901:03:25,260 --> 01:03:29,490badass. I mean, they've Okay, sopretty. So what's your runtime?99001:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,390What's your runtime? A 10 days99101:03:34,590 --> 01:03:37,11010 days on a full portfolio?propane tank? Yeah.99201:03:38,310 --> 01:03:42,540That's good. That's not bad.Right? I'm thinking the next Ice99301:03:42,540 --> 01:03:47,910mageddon that Texas has, you'regonna have a huge you should be99401:03:47,910 --> 01:03:52,140able to like isolate yourselfdown to like one or two rooms99501:03:52,470 --> 01:03:57,090that you can keep warm. And thenyou could be able to run for99601:03:57,090 --> 01:04:00,720what like two weeks if youneeded to easily because we have99701:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,660a propane fireplace99801:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,950keeps most of the house warm. Wedon't even have to turn on the99901:04:07,950 --> 01:04:09,360heating system if we don't wantto.100001:04:10,470 --> 01:04:13,170So it'd be purely for thetankless water heaters.100101:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,210Excuse me the studio fridgefreezer you know we have propane100201:04:18,210 --> 01:04:23,280gas. Propane for the stove. Ohyeah, we have you know, we have100301:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,940a well water we have our ownaerobic septic system. So it100401:04:26,940 --> 01:04:30,930doesn't even have to be deep.Oops, you know, it sprays100501:04:30,930 --> 01:04:34,380freshwater over the ground.It's, you know, we're ready. I100601:04:34,380 --> 01:04:38,970got my got my ham radio, I gotmy rubber nice, my compass is100701:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,770ready to go. So I'm not worriedabout Snowmageddon. That's not100801:04:43,770 --> 01:04:46,110going to happen, which hadnothing to do with Snowmageddon.100901:04:46,140 --> 01:04:49,710It had everything to do withgreed and an ERCOT where people101001:04:49,710 --> 01:04:52,590are trading energy every fiveminutes on the auction and they101101:04:52,740 --> 01:04:55,050just got greedy and forgot toturn some shit on and then they101201:04:55,050 --> 01:04:59,190had no natural gas to turn it onwith. That's not going to happen101301:04:59,190 --> 01:04:59,970again. But it101401:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,240Will is the grid under attack?Certainly the Texas grid which101501:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,650has its own grid to bring in newgrids, a new national grid under101601:05:07,650 --> 01:05:12,060climate change a high voltage DCgrid? Yeah, for sure. Will they101701:05:12,150 --> 01:05:15,450mess with it, but they bring itdown to prove a point. I'm not101801:05:15,450 --> 01:05:18,750putting it past anybody. Howmany times do we have to Russia101901:05:18,750 --> 01:05:22,740is going to cyber attack it ordomestic extremists are going to102001:05:22,950 --> 01:05:28,020attack the grid? Come on. Butyeah, I totally believe the102101:05:28,020 --> 01:05:31,860American government or pieces ofit are completely capable of102201:05:31,860 --> 01:05:35,130proving a point by bringing downpieces of the grid just to get102301:05:35,130 --> 01:05:40,590us to believe in something else.But did you hear that we're so102401:05:40,590 --> 01:05:46,050off topic now. But did you hearthe Matt Lee? My man McAfee is102501:05:46,050 --> 01:05:49,410the best. But how long have Ibeen following you? I've been102601:05:49,410 --> 01:05:52,500following him for a decade. Andhe used to have all these102701:05:52,500 --> 01:05:57,150issues. He Oh, yeah. He's like,dude, crisis actors false flag.102801:05:57,420 --> 01:05:59,790I mean, this is some Alex Joneslevel shit. Yeah.102901:06:01,110 --> 01:06:05,070This is the stuff. And this isthis is where Joe Rogan to bring103001:06:05,070 --> 01:06:08,640it full circle is right. Becausethings that were fake news,103101:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,210misinformation, disinformation,scientifically dangerous three103201:06:12,210 --> 01:06:15,090months ago are now fact true andproven.103301:06:16,170 --> 01:06:19,320And people that the people thatare trying to the people that103401:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,670are most vocal about gettingRogen canceled right now are the103501:06:23,670 --> 01:06:27,930ones that spent literally almostfive years telling us that103601:06:27,930 --> 01:06:31,710Russia that Russia is involvedin the Trump campaign and it was103701:06:31,710 --> 01:06:39,000completely false. I mean, like100% complete crap. Has any103801:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,730credibility the same peopletelling you Russia's going to103901:06:41,730 --> 01:06:46,140invade Ukraine? Yeah, and whatwe know we already know it's104001:06:46,140 --> 01:06:50,430going to be a false flag. Okay,if if I don't even think that104101:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,510and I think Matt Matt got cutshort because what he started104201:06:54,510 --> 01:06:58,140saying I think it just kind ofdropped it was what he started104301:06:58,140 --> 01:07:01,380saying he said I remember youhave weapons of mass104401:07:01,380 --> 01:07:04,650destruction. Yeah, weapons ofmass. Let's rock. aluminum104501:07:04,650 --> 01:07:06,030tubes. Yeah, of course.104601:07:07,140 --> 01:07:08,730aluminum tubes yella K104701:07:10,140 --> 01:07:13,470babies thrown out of incubators.That was my favorite that was my104801:07:13,470 --> 01:07:13,950favorite104901:07:17,190 --> 01:07:20,340Yeah, I still have that clip ofthe girl crying who turned out105001:07:20,340 --> 01:07:23,730to be she was the daughter ofkiller Knowlton PR executive who105101:07:23,730 --> 01:07:25,560had been given a script105201:07:27,300 --> 01:07:29,850throw the babies out of theincubators on the ground.105301:07:31,050 --> 01:07:34,080And they never get they neverget held to task about they just105401:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,170they just like okay move on. Soof all the things that we've105501:07:37,170 --> 01:07:40,470accomplished in our lives we oneday will be sitting on the porch105601:07:40,860 --> 01:07:44,940with our shotguns in our rockingchairs and our hound dogs and we105701:07:44,970 --> 01:07:48,300can we say man we sure enabledsome crazy shit to be said105801:07:48,300 --> 01:07:48,660didn't we105901:07:51,150 --> 01:07:55,200that's what we did Davey. Iremit that reminds me so I was106001:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,000fishing one time with my with mydad so we're we're fishing and106101:08:00,030 --> 01:08:03,780the the the fishing is terrible.So we hadn't caught anything and106201:08:03,780 --> 01:08:07,620he's like it but we had we hadin the truck. And so106301:08:08,970 --> 01:08:10,650how's that I guess I was ateenager106401:08:12,690 --> 01:08:14,940he's like at most usefulsquirrels.106501:08:16,020 --> 01:08:16,320So106601:08:17,610 --> 01:08:19,620what else is there to do anAlabama106701:08:20,820 --> 01:08:23,850hey you hungry let's go shootsome squirrels yeah106801:08:24,930 --> 01:08:28,860I'm like yeah sure. So we wentget shotguns we're going around106901:08:28,860 --> 01:08:31,530on the boat well you shot thesquirrels with the shotguns with107001:08:31,530 --> 01:08:32,880with like buckshot.107101:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,430It was F is it be blow those whoremember blow them apart with107201:08:38,430 --> 01:08:39,210that was there107301:08:40,380 --> 01:08:41,070was anything left?107401:08:42,930 --> 01:08:43,950We didn't shoot anything.107501:08:46,170 --> 01:08:47,910But we what it wasn't buckshot.107601:08:49,290 --> 01:08:52,530I can't remember slug. Yeah, nono.107701:08:54,330 --> 01:08:55,410Explode107801:08:57,030 --> 01:08:59,160Tannerite tracer rounds.107901:09:00,870 --> 01:09:03,510Shoot some scrub some trace.Uranium108001:09:05,550 --> 01:09:08,730depleted uranium tip tracerrounds, not your tracers. Yeah.108101:09:09,690 --> 01:09:11,880It's I'm sitting there and wherehe's like, you know, we're108201:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,150looking for nest and that kindof thing. And I'm just fiddling108301:09:15,150 --> 01:09:18,270with the with I thought thesafety was on so I'm just108401:09:18,270 --> 01:09:21,390fiddling with the trigger. Andjust, oh, I don't know what I108501:09:21,390 --> 01:09:25,350was doing cleaning the gun andit went off. No, no, no, not108601:09:25,350 --> 01:09:28,500that. Not that. I'm not thatstupid. But I have it sitting108701:09:28,500 --> 01:09:33,660with the stock. Stock of theshotgun is sitting right. In108801:09:33,810 --> 01:09:38,880right in the meat of my hip.Like, really? Almost exactly. On108901:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,300my crotch. Oh, just right therein the meat. And it's Roy109001:09:42,300 --> 01:09:42,690earlier.109101:09:43,770 --> 01:09:46,530Yes. Thank you for that word.The mic was sitting on my109201:09:46,530 --> 01:09:50,490growing and the barrel is facingstraight up into the air and I'm109301:09:50,490 --> 01:09:53,070hold. I'm just holding myrouter. And I'm mindlessly109401:09:53,070 --> 01:09:54,030fiddling with this thing.109501:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,010I don't know how the safety gotoff. But anyway, all of a sudden109601:09:59,610 --> 01:09:59,970boom.109701:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,970discharge. And this thing justgoes right into my job. It's109801:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,370amazing. You have children Daveshows.109901:10:10,650 --> 01:10:12,840You that is the scariest thingthat110001:10:14,099 --> 01:10:18,899ever happened. That's hilarious.I don't know how I got on that.110101:10:18,929 --> 01:10:22,529Oh, yeah. I don't know how yougot there, but I do appreciate110201:10:22,529 --> 01:10:28,349the visual. Thank you. Yes. Donot ever wreck yourself with a110301:10:28,349 --> 01:10:31,049shotgun with a shot. Well, youknow, Chris, do you know Sir110401:10:31,049 --> 01:10:31,589Chris?110501:10:32,730 --> 01:10:35,820You know, Chris, we talked aboutChris Chris. Jacob.110601:10:36,900 --> 01:10:41,790Oh, no, he's my he's my buddy.No, no, no, he's not. But he's110701:10:41,790 --> 01:10:44,880been in a lot of companies withme. And then. Oh, yeah, he was110801:10:44,910 --> 01:10:48,570he was your sales guy. Right?Yeah. More than that. It was110901:10:48,570 --> 01:10:50,820like, Chris, we need a milliondollars to make our numbers.111001:10:50,820 --> 01:10:54,060Okay. That was Chris, you'd goout, you know, Chris would work111101:10:54,060 --> 01:10:56,670for three years and burn himselfout and go do something else.111201:10:56,700 --> 01:11:00,090crude, fantastic answer. Thanks.He's, well, he's no, he's also111301:11:00,090 --> 01:11:02,430been on the ground with us atthe ground level starting111401:11:02,430 --> 01:11:06,270building stuff. He's just he'she understands sales very well.111501:11:07,230 --> 01:11:12,030But other things too. And he isafter our last venture together.111601:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,930eventually wound up owning somegun stores. And there's this111701:11:15,930 --> 01:11:20,610famous video on YouTube. It's ait's their office. You know,111801:11:20,610 --> 01:11:24,420it's like a dash cam, internalOffice video, they published it.111901:11:24,870 --> 01:11:29,820And so I think at the time Chrishad, like his girlfriend was112001:11:29,820 --> 01:11:32,160some crazy ex Marines.112101:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,390I don't want to disparage marineso that's probably wrong. But112201:11:36,930 --> 01:11:38,010anyway, she had112301:11:39,030 --> 01:11:43,740she was really into guns and shehad swapped out his trigger for112401:11:43,740 --> 01:11:47,520some other thing that was muchlighter or, you know, sensitive.112501:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,080Anyway, triggers. Yeah, so he,he didn't everyone has their112601:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,870guns in this gun shop in theoffice and he and you see him112701:11:54,870 --> 01:11:57,270getting up, he's gonna walk out.He puts his gun in his112801:11:57,270 --> 01:11:59,790waistband. And then as he'swalking here,112901:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,230and shot right through hisgroin, out his butt.113001:12:06,330 --> 01:12:10,260I'm allowed to laugh becausehe's my friend. Oh, my God.113101:12:10,260 --> 01:12:14,010Yeah. And it's it's really, youknow, it's you got it. It's on113201:12:14,010 --> 01:12:16,680YouTube. It's phenomenal. Youjust look, he's like, Dude,113301:12:16,770 --> 01:12:21,090that's the worst. That's theworst. He's okay. But it was not113401:12:21,090 --> 01:12:21,420fun.113501:12:23,010 --> 01:12:27,060He was bleeding quite a bit,apparently. Yeah, yeah. Shot113601:12:27,060 --> 01:12:30,390through some arteries orsomething. Oh, crap, man. That113701:12:30,420 --> 01:12:33,420yeah, that's a bad day. Yeah. Sothat's like, there's a couple113801:12:33,420 --> 01:12:37,350lessons here. Like don't letanyone else touch your gun. Yes,113901:12:37,380 --> 01:12:41,310yes. That would be the top one.Anyway. Um, do you want talk114001:12:41,310 --> 01:12:46,350about podcasting? Yeah, I know,for sure. There's but but yes, I114101:12:46,350 --> 01:12:51,060do, of course. But what we'retalking about here is why we're114201:12:51,060 --> 01:12:56,340here. This is the whole It feltso good to tell multiple people114301:12:56,340 --> 01:13:01,440this week, including Tom woodsto say, we fix it. We fix these114401:13:01,440 --> 01:13:06,570problems. So we can move on fromhere, let them all that. Even114501:13:06,570 --> 01:13:11,310Joe and hoopy. And everybody goargue over there. We really114601:13:11,310 --> 01:13:14,190don't get a shit. We don't care.It doesn't matter to us. And114701:13:14,190 --> 01:13:17,910we're not alone. We're not now alittle island. This thing is114801:13:17,970 --> 01:13:22,890big. What we're doing is big.It's it's, it's it's rolling.114901:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,730It's it's common. I mean, peopleare seeing it, they're talking115001:13:26,730 --> 01:13:31,800about it. They're suggestingpodcasting 2.0 to people. It's115101:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,430happening.115201:13:33,630 --> 01:13:38,070Because of all this, it's it'sit's perfect. Unlike you, I feel115301:13:38,070 --> 01:13:41,640like we we don't really have totalk about that part of things115401:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,810anymore. No, we don't, we don't.And it's nice to not have to be115501:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,040to not have to, like, just go onand on endlessly about deep115601:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,140platforming and all that kindstuff. Because to me the most,115701:13:52,350 --> 01:13:55,320the most important is what I wastrying to say at the beginning,115801:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,290and it probably just didn't justmuddy it up. But to me, the most115901:13:58,290 --> 01:14:03,810important thing, really, is thatwhen there's an option to cancel116001:14:03,810 --> 01:14:09,930somebody, it makes you stopactually listening to us trying116101:14:09,930 --> 01:14:14,610to understand what they'resaying. Yes, yeah. Because, you116201:14:14,610 --> 01:14:17,970know, and what I meant by beingcharitable to somebody is that116301:14:20,550 --> 01:14:25,380she, actually we know what, wecan't play another clip because116401:14:25,380 --> 01:14:26,490I think number three,116501:14:27,630 --> 01:14:28,320um,116601:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,050see, try.116701:14:32,130 --> 01:14:35,070Yeah, try number three. Yeah, dothat. And that they could apply116801:14:35,070 --> 01:14:38,370it to all different kinds ofpeople. That idea of race and116901:14:38,370 --> 01:14:42,270the American experience tends tobe based on skin. Yes. And so117001:14:42,270 --> 01:14:46,860that is what race means to me.When you talk about117101:14:48,060 --> 01:14:52,770being a racist. I was saying,you can't call this racism. This117201:14:52,770 --> 01:14:56,730was evil. This wasn't thiswasn't based on the skin. You117301:14:56,730 --> 01:14:59,970couldn't tell who was Jewish.They had to delve deep.117401:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,410To figure it out.117501:15:02,610 --> 01:15:08,160Now, clearly she's wrong aboutthat. But, but, and that's kind117601:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,330of the point is117701:15:10,469 --> 01:15:14,849the point, the point here isthat she has a life experience117801:15:15,329 --> 01:15:24,389that tells her what racism is.And if you, if you when you say,117901:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,310Okay, well, you were wrong, andtherefore you need to be de118001:15:29,310 --> 01:15:33,990platformed or canceled about ano the Holocaust and racism that118101:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,850you've you're no longerlistening to what she says, what118201:15:38,850 --> 01:15:43,680the what the things, what shecame to realize you can play I118301:15:43,710 --> 01:15:48,270think you played for is what shecame to realize is that she was118401:15:48,270 --> 01:15:48,810wrong.118501:15:50,010 --> 01:15:55,260That that there was a racialcomponent, but she still has118601:15:55,260 --> 01:15:59,130such a life experience thattells her that race is skin118701:15:59,130 --> 01:16:00,990color, that118801:16:02,190 --> 01:16:05,790you're to say that she waswrong.118901:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,760Like, in a way that is harmfuland cancelable is not119001:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,630understanding who she is as aperson either. You can the119101:16:16,650 --> 01:16:21,330the conversation could havebeen, instead of your evil, you119201:16:21,330 --> 01:16:24,330need to be de platformed theconversation could have been119301:16:24,330 --> 01:16:30,030something more akin to, I cansee how you're hurt about your119401:16:30,030 --> 01:16:34,350life experience, influences theway that you think and talk.119501:16:35,160 --> 01:16:40,080And, I mean, yeah, but Dave,sorry. Two things. There's a119601:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,500whole history of we'll be boldGoldberg being anything but119701:16:43,500 --> 01:16:47,640charitable to other peoplepublicly agreed. Agree. Okay. So119801:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,580this is where the canceledculture this is where the the119901:16:50,580 --> 01:16:53,550social networking and everythingcomes in and people are ready to120001:16:53,550 --> 01:16:58,470do it. Also after 74 episodes ofMo facts 75 Actually with Mo120101:16:58,470 --> 01:16:59,100facts120201:17:01,170 --> 01:17:05,670she's kind of disingenuousbecause there's something known120301:17:05,670 --> 01:17:09,150as colorism and she knows damnwell that in the black120401:17:09,150 --> 01:17:14,190community, there's racismbetween skin colors themselves,120501:17:14,460 --> 01:17:18,360so to say, you know, black,white nanananana there's120601:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,000everything in between thehistorically black colleges and120701:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,030universities in the UnitedStates had the brown paper bag120801:17:24,030 --> 01:17:27,570test when they initially openedand you could not have skin120901:17:27,570 --> 01:17:32,700color darker than a brown paperbag to enter that university. So121001:17:32,700 --> 01:17:35,910she's disingenuous about herhistory she's making it very,121101:17:35,910 --> 01:17:39,660very simple to get out of thisis my opinion. Was that Ned see121201:17:39,660 --> 01:17:40,140there?121301:17:41,490 --> 01:17:47,340There is. I am take I don't I donot dispute her past where she's121401:17:47,670 --> 01:17:52,170been an uncharitable towardsother people in that there again121501:17:52,170 --> 01:17:57,780that's my point. But that's mypoint is that yes, yes, that's121601:17:57,780 --> 01:18:00,930the problem. I totally agreewith you. That is the problem121701:18:00,930 --> 01:18:05,070she she has not been shared withthis this goes back to the curry121801:18:05,340 --> 01:18:08,160I don't know if called the curryrule or the boomerang law the121901:18:08,190 --> 01:18:11,400Uber Uber then the mediaboomerang. If you use the122001:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,790boomerang if you use the mediato promote yourself or something122101:18:14,790 --> 01:18:20,280selfish even just a thoughtBelieve it or not, that thing122201:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,070comes around it may not beimmediate could be years from122301:18:23,070 --> 01:18:26,940now and it will hit you withequal and opposite force in your122401:18:26,940 --> 01:18:27,330head.122501:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,690Right in the head. Yeah. Rightborn clock. So she got it and122601:18:33,690 --> 01:18:37,050you know, and for my money. Shewas forced to do this. I don't122701:18:37,050 --> 01:18:40,170think she wants to do Kobe Ithink she just wanted she did.122801:18:40,170 --> 01:18:44,100This is bullshit. She was forcedto do it by her overlords. The122901:18:44,100 --> 01:18:47,820view is a highly scriptedprogram highly scripted. She123001:18:47,820 --> 01:18:50,280went off script, that's hermistake.123101:18:51,480 --> 01:18:56,520And, you know, she may be themost completely disingenuous123201:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,350person in the whole world. Andprobably is but123301:19:02,370 --> 01:19:02,970I,123401:19:04,050 --> 01:19:09,690for my for myself, to me how tofix that is to take people at123501:19:09,690 --> 01:19:14,580their word until they prove thatyou can't. And he just went good123601:19:14,580 --> 01:19:19,440man, Dave Jones. You're You're asweet southern boy in Alabama123701:19:19,440 --> 01:19:22,260shooting squirrels. Meanwhile,the rest of the world is evil123801:19:22,260 --> 01:19:24,420son. We got to let you knowabout this stuff.123901:19:25,530 --> 01:19:29,190kicking myself in the shoes,shooting squirrels hurting your124001:19:29,190 --> 01:19:31,590crotch get sketchy, no fish.124101:19:33,090 --> 01:19:33,510Catching124201:19:35,160 --> 01:19:35,820the worst part?124301:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,010Yes, but you are124401:19:43,140 --> 01:19:48,480a very special person becauseyou have this ability. You have124501:19:48,480 --> 01:19:54,090an incredible demeanor andcalmness about you, even with124601:19:54,090 --> 01:19:57,060people that really irritate you.And I've seen this and you're124701:19:57,060 --> 01:19:59,880very, very good because I thinkyour basic rule is124801:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,840Doesn't take much just to benice. Yes, it doesn't and it124901:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,160doesn't. It really doesn't turnthat frown upside down. Mr.125001:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,570Dave. Mr. Happy to happy totwinkle toes. I could tell by125101:20:12,570 --> 01:20:17,520watching her face. Yes, you'reright. She didn't want to do it.125201:20:18,030 --> 01:20:21,510But I can tell by watching herface that she really125301:20:22,650 --> 01:20:24,960the reason she didn't want to doit is because she still thinks125401:20:24,960 --> 01:20:31,800she's right. Of course still not100% on board with what125501:20:31,800 --> 01:20:36,030everybody else said. And like,I'm just gonna put it real plain125601:20:36,030 --> 01:20:40,230to you. This is this is showbusiness shit. I've been through125701:20:40,230 --> 01:20:45,570this too. You don't mess withthe Jews in show business. I'll125801:20:45,570 --> 01:20:49,200just say it. Brian of Londonwill back me up on this. We talk125901:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,410about this stuff. And I lovethat about Brian of London. We126001:20:52,410 --> 01:20:55,410can talk about Semitism, antisemitism, all kinds of things.126101:20:55,410 --> 01:20:57,990He's very open really willing tolisten.126201:21:00,450 --> 01:21:04,230That's just that's just what shedid she crossed paths. Look at126301:21:04,230 --> 01:21:07,620look at who's producing look whothe bosses are. This is a very126401:21:07,620 --> 01:21:10,470big thing I know. Because I'vesaid to Jewish, Jewish people,126501:21:10,470 --> 01:21:14,220friends of mine, isn't what?You're not white. No, no, we're126601:21:14,220 --> 01:21:16,980not. We're not white. We'reJewish. Okay. And once you once126701:21:16,980 --> 01:21:17,730you've heard it,126801:21:19,380 --> 01:21:21,810then you're like, okay, but thisis all reasonably new for me.126901:21:21,810 --> 01:21:23,700And I think it's with the wholewhite supremacy like,127001:21:24,930 --> 01:21:26,400we're not white. We're Jews.127101:21:27,450 --> 01:21:31,650And whatever the mechanism is,the whole thing is stupid.127201:21:32,700 --> 01:21:35,970The whole thing. You know what Ilike? I like that we have Jews,127301:21:35,970 --> 01:21:41,040Muslims. nutjobs, crazies, men,women. Gosh, who knows? Some of127401:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,540our developers could be trans. Idon't care. We're building127501:21:45,540 --> 01:21:48,330product. We're building coolshit. We're saving the world.127601:21:48,420 --> 01:21:49,650We're getting people paid.127701:21:51,000 --> 01:21:51,960That's what matters.127801:21:53,730 --> 01:21:56,340I can't believe that I spentthis much time talking about127901:21:56,340 --> 01:21:58,950Whoopi Goldberg. I tried to pullyou away from it. You just kept128001:21:58,950 --> 01:21:59,190doing128101:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,810it let's thank some peoplethat'll always that always128201:22:03,810 --> 01:22:08,310shakes it up. All right. UnlessI'm sorry, if you want to play128301:22:08,310 --> 01:22:11,310the the final Whoopie ko bearfollow no God.128401:22:13,290 --> 01:22:17,880But I completely understand whatyou're saying. It's just It's128501:22:17,880 --> 01:22:23,130futile to to think people wereway beyond that. We've got a128601:22:23,130 --> 01:22:26,850dopamine dispenser machine andeverybody's pocket.128701:22:29,160 --> 01:22:34,050Depressing. A little bit. Butyeah, but no. Because pod Yes.128801:22:34,440 --> 01:22:40,890Yeah, but no, yeah, no. Yeah,no. Podcasts are definitely128901:22:40,890 --> 01:22:45,960changing that the calmness theability to just walk and listen129001:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,650to something that's a big partof Rogan success people aren't129101:22:49,650 --> 01:22:53,160flocking to him fordisinformation they're flocking129201:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,520to him because podcasts are theplace we can hear someone talk129301:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,700for two seconds like you I don'tcare if you talk for five five129401:22:59,700 --> 01:23:01,650hours about Whoopi I'll be rightthere with you129501:23:02,940 --> 01:23:06,360we you know you know we care youactually do care of course I do.129601:23:07,170 --> 01:23:10,050You know I care about you firstand foremost you would you would129701:23:10,050 --> 01:23:12,690be concerned about my mentalhealth well maybe our four I'd129801:23:12,690 --> 01:23:13,830be like dude let's just move on.129901:23:15,030 --> 01:23:18,000But we you know, we createdtimes to for that you can play130001:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,150faster speed you can fastforward you can skip ahead you130101:23:21,150 --> 01:23:24,750know, this is this is all withinthe hands of the of the user130201:23:24,750 --> 01:23:27,990now, what B mode times to do iswhat130301:23:31,440 --> 01:23:34,440but but this this is this is theshift this is the truth. This is130401:23:34,440 --> 01:23:36,660what we've been seeing this iswhat we've been waiting to130501:23:36,660 --> 01:23:42,390happen. Unfortunately, the therise of true podcasting in its130601:23:42,390 --> 01:23:46,260real form of no one can messwith it. You can just do what130701:23:46,260 --> 01:23:51,360you want to do and and say whatyou want to say comes at the130801:23:51,360 --> 01:23:55,890same time the the world is inmeltdown. But that's exactly why130901:23:55,890 --> 01:23:56,820it's so great.131001:23:57,930 --> 01:24:01,290For the past 24 months, I've hadnothing but emails from people131101:24:01,290 --> 01:24:04,830saying and I've talked to TomWoods talk to Joe Rogan talk to131201:24:05,460 --> 01:24:09,120Megan Kelly, they all say thesame thing. I got the same131301:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,660emails from people saying youkept me sane through this131401:24:12,690 --> 01:24:13,710insanity.131501:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,600You did that? I guess do that'swhat podcasts do for people. And131601:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,210it doesn't mean that you have tohave information better131701:24:21,210 --> 01:24:25,170information. Just someone thatyou want to listen to that you131801:24:25,650 --> 01:24:29,910probably agree with, you knowprobably or or something that is131901:24:29,910 --> 01:24:32,970just you know, someone whoseemingly is not affected and132001:24:32,970 --> 01:24:36,270we'll talk about something elsewhatever it is, this became real132101:24:36,270 --> 01:24:39,870important. This was podcastssecret victory.132201:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,840Secret victory to me that thatis I mean, obviously no agenda132301:24:45,840 --> 01:24:53,340but then that's pod land. That'smere mortals survival podcast.132401:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,390It's, you know, the132501:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,040Fun Fact Friday. That'severything everywhere. I mean,132601:24:59,070 --> 01:24:59,970like the that's132701:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,220The causality the podcasts arepart of. I mean, it really does132801:25:05,790 --> 01:25:09,930feel like a fan family type. Youknow, especially now that I can132901:25:09,930 --> 01:25:13,050send booster grants back andforth. I know like I'm talking133001:25:13,050 --> 01:25:16,500to James Cridland I'm literallytalking to him during his show.133101:25:16,860 --> 01:25:19,530I'm like what I'm doing No, no,no, no, no. What are you133201:25:19,530 --> 01:25:25,650talking? Hey 6666 for thedevil's advocate Yeah. Karen133301:25:25,650 --> 01:25:28,860down from a mere mortals theother day he said, and this this133401:25:28,860 --> 01:25:32,880just cracked me up he said thathis ideal girl that he'd want to133501:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,990date is kind multilingual133601:25:38,070 --> 01:25:40,830and, and get into Bitcoin for2014133701:25:42,330 --> 01:25:45,360Nothing wrong with marrying formoney my friend. Nothing wrong133801:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,760with that. Nothing wrong withthey deserve every penny if you133901:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,140do. Speaking of speaking ofpennies, yes. Let's thank some134001:25:52,140 --> 01:25:52,650peeps.134101:25:53,790 --> 01:25:57,150We get these are in completelyjumbled up order because I had134201:25:57,150 --> 01:25:58,710no time to prep. So134301:26:00,030 --> 01:26:05,970chair Faro? monthly donation of$20.22. Thank you134401:26:08,460 --> 01:26:09,210deduce.134501:26:12,120 --> 01:26:17,580Got Scott Jalbert $12. That's amonthly donation. And I'm134601:26:18,690 --> 01:26:21,030going slow and these because I'mthey're still on the screen. I134701:26:21,030 --> 01:26:25,080usually have my paper. Yeah, Ihear this is out. You're ruining134801:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,590the format. I know it's I'mtotally off off kilter here.134901:26:30,810 --> 01:26:34,650Miguel Gomez, give us $20 As aone time donation, thank you,135001:26:34,650 --> 01:26:37,770Miguel. No note from MiguelMiguel, if you have a note, send135101:26:37,770 --> 01:26:41,400it to me, I should probably saythat this is a value for value135201:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,540project just to remindeverybody, since I preach minds,135301:26:45,540 --> 01:26:46,050we'll do it.135401:26:47,220 --> 01:26:52,770We only exist by the value thatwe create and that people value135501:26:52,770 --> 01:26:58,110and send back. It's that simple.If you appreciate podcasting 2.0135601:26:58,830 --> 01:27:02,400This podcast all the work that'sbeing done, the servers that are135701:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,030running the node for Oh crap, Isupposed to do that ring of135801:27:06,030 --> 01:27:07,710fire, the node for135901:27:09,150 --> 01:27:13,290shit, I'm sorry. For liquiditywhere we put all of all of our136001:27:13,290 --> 01:27:15,840bitcoins on this node and weopen it we have hundreds of136101:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,650channels open or at least over100 channels. And we've actually136201:27:19,650 --> 01:27:21,270become an important node becauseof it.136301:27:23,190 --> 01:27:25,980All because of you. So whatevervalue you get out of it, or if136401:27:25,980 --> 01:27:28,860you just love it, and that's thevalue right there. Go to136501:27:28,860 --> 01:27:31,500podcasting next.org You can godown to the bottom of that page136601:27:31,500 --> 01:27:34,230has a red donate button, or ofcourse and we'll get to those136701:27:34,230 --> 01:27:38,670you can boost us and and sendstream some stats to us as you136801:27:38,700 --> 01:27:39,870enjoy everything we're doing.136901:27:41,640 --> 01:27:47,220Loretta Vandenberg gave us $10 Ithink that's the new subscript.137001:27:47,430 --> 01:27:51,270I was gonna say, banana butVandenberg Vandenberg Phantom,137101:27:52,050 --> 01:27:55,380is that Dutch? Yeah, well, Iknow Adrian Vandenberg137201:27:57,570 --> 01:27:58,740from Whitesnake.137301:28:00,630 --> 01:28:03,090Yeah, he's a Dutch guy. He's aDutch guitar player.137401:28:05,220 --> 01:28:08,940wonder she's related. Probablynot. That's, that was always my137501:28:08,940 --> 01:28:12,630problem with white lion. Justtoo close to Whitesnake. Yeah,137601:28:13,110 --> 01:28:18,630yeah. Do you remember firehousefirehouse Yeah.137701:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,050Did they sing Don't close youreyes137801:28:23,430 --> 01:28:25,140remember that when dunk clues137901:28:26,490 --> 01:28:27,600firehouse138001:28:29,700 --> 01:28:32,850Christian band today? No no whena Christian138101:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,920was that but yeah that wasfirehouse striper. Man Do you138201:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,880remember striper strike Yeah,when I look into your eyes when138301:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,280I look into your eyes that'swhat your that was firehouse138401:28:45,420 --> 01:28:50,520Don't close your eyes was kickskx. Yeah. Oh, yes. This is this138501:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,090is firehouse Yeah. Oh my god.138601:28:55,140 --> 01:28:57,720Take me back to the 80s Yeah, Igot to turn that off. That's138701:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,140horrible.138801:28:59,220 --> 01:29:02,610My aim was Don't close yourkicks. I remember kicks to138901:29:04,290 --> 01:29:09,150know I was hairband guy. I hearyou, bro. I hear you. I hear139001:29:09,150 --> 01:29:13,620you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah.Thank you, Loretta. And we got139101:29:14,010 --> 01:29:17,460Mark Graham gives $1 He'sscription monthly donor. Thank139201:29:17,460 --> 01:29:17,940you, Mark.139301:29:19,380 --> 01:29:24,870$20 from Samuel Thorpe. And hesays hello. My previous donate.139401:29:24,870 --> 01:29:28,980Oh, hello. Hello. My previousdonation was twice on139501:29:32,640 --> 01:29:36,600actually says hello. Hello.Okay. Hello. My previous139601:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,630donation was read out twice. SoI'm making up for it with139701:29:39,630 --> 01:29:44,280another donation. Thank you.This is a new strategy. Very139801:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,190good day well done. Our evilplan has worked once again.139901:29:50,130 --> 01:29:55,110Notes sent to give at podcastindex.org subject donation Okay,140001:29:55,140 --> 01:29:58,800so he's got another note here.Okay, here we go. So he sent us140101:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,670another note he says140201:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,020Oh yeah this was140301:30:03,389 --> 01:30:05,729he says my donation was read outtwice that the second time you140401:30:05,729 --> 01:30:10,049read the clarification aboutbeing fr pronounced father.140501:30:10,289 --> 01:30:13,289Neither time was I anticipatingthe note to be read out I think140601:30:13,289 --> 01:30:14,429I called him fryer.140701:30:15,780 --> 01:30:18,810I think he is fryer isn't fr Ithink I think he's I saw that140801:30:18,810 --> 01:30:22,650note I think FR is fryer is itnot? Or is it father? Well he140901:30:22,650 --> 01:30:27,300says pronounced father. Oh, andhe's a god caster or is he just141001:30:27,300 --> 01:30:28,230a supporter?141101:30:31,020 --> 01:30:37,140Do this see? I listened to a lotof God casters have to say yes,141201:30:37,170 --> 01:30:40,200I feel grim path is the namefrom the pilgrim path. Okay,141301:30:40,260 --> 01:30:44,190I'll check that. I lovereligious podcasts in jet most141401:30:44,190 --> 01:30:45,150of them most of them.141501:30:46,410 --> 01:30:49,860I do. I love Steve Webb man. Ican listen to him all day long.141601:30:50,910 --> 01:30:53,160Well, you might like thepodcast.141701:30:55,710 --> 01:30:58,410Oh, look it up in a minute. I'llsend it to you. There's a141801:30:58,440 --> 01:30:59,400podcast you might like.141901:31:00,420 --> 01:31:04,920Yes. Oh, see, Samuel sayspronounce father. I started my142001:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,280podcast from the pilgrim path inNovember lockdown is 2020 here142101:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,790in the UK. Oh, so it was it wasHello. Hello. Hello from the142201:31:11,790 --> 01:31:13,350pilgrim path. Yeah.142301:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,970James and Oscar and Samuel areall just like cringing right142401:31:17,970 --> 01:31:18,090now.142501:31:19,590 --> 01:31:22,320In the UK use WordPress to getgoing shortly after I142601:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,010encountered first first noagenda and then podcasting 2.0142701:31:26,430 --> 01:31:27,930in a conversation with Adam andDave142801:31:29,010 --> 01:31:32,520I quickly realized WordPresswasn't going to cut it is paused142901:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,760rethink life happened at Timepassed. And then you had the143001:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,690rss.com guys on and I signed upwith them the day after I heard143101:31:39,690 --> 01:31:42,870the show and they've beenbrilliant. Oh good. Oh, he's143201:31:42,870 --> 01:31:47,880dude he's duped in the index. Wehave a dupe we got a duper Oh143301:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,860Was he WordPress and rss.com canwell I'm looking at curio caster143401:31:52,860 --> 01:31:54,240so I guess I should look at143501:31:55,260 --> 01:31:59,100Can I just use that p i numberthat's interesting. From the143601:31:59,100 --> 01:32:00,660pilgrim path here it is a dupe143701:32:01,770 --> 01:32:05,580do I know his podcast? Not himpersonally? He is143801:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,010oh, that Yep. Yeah, that'sthat's the WordPress I'll clean143901:32:11,010 --> 01:32:15,570it up. Okay, so which one whichone? Do we use the the Yeah, we144001:32:15,570 --> 01:32:19,440got we got the right actuallyactually see. Oh, there's a144101:32:19,440 --> 01:32:23,130different Pilger Oh, there's apilgrim path podcast. Pastor144201:32:23,130 --> 01:32:27,660Chris Surber. This one is fromthe pilgrim path. I know but we144301:32:27,660 --> 01:32:30,330have Pastor Chris horning in onthe name here I think we should144401:32:30,810 --> 01:32:33,570we should shadow ban him. Shadowbut144501:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,820I'm going to shadow ban. Thisanchor.144601:32:40,230 --> 01:32:46,050interloper and move Samuel up tothe top. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll144701:32:46,050 --> 01:32:49,800clean that up. Get get ready toget your value box set up.144801:32:50,940 --> 01:32:54,660Yeah, yeah. What are you doingSamuel? Set up your blog. Oh,144901:32:54,660 --> 01:32:57,870man, you actually have a mouseover it says claim your feed145001:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,670isn't true reclaim this claimthis feed triggers me it does145101:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,450claim this feed on podcast we'reokay. What should what should it145201:33:06,450 --> 01:33:06,930say?145301:33:08,760 --> 01:33:09,630Add a valuable145401:33:10,680 --> 01:33:11,280I'm145501:33:12,810 --> 01:33:16,200just think about it. claim thisfeed is just such a huge thing.145601:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,780And it's usually used byassholes who trick you into145701:33:18,810 --> 01:33:22,500signing up for something theysteal all your content. Great.145801:33:22,530 --> 01:33:24,480Yes. Oh, great. It'll changethings.145901:33:26,910 --> 01:33:30,390Thank you ppreciate it man.That's how we debug our shit146001:33:30,390 --> 01:33:35,220here. People live on the air.Right. This is no good. Change146101:33:35,220 --> 01:33:35,820that okay.146201:33:36,930 --> 01:33:37,920noted on the pad.146301:33:38,970 --> 01:33:44,310Chris, Chris bars. Ron, give us$33.33 And he says A big thanks146401:33:44,310 --> 01:33:48,360from Sir bargy today for helpingmy new my new podcast show up146501:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,300right on the index. Oh, cool. Soexciting to tell our producers146601:33:51,300 --> 01:33:53,640about the features they can seeon these modern apps. Thank you146701:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,600pod father and go podcasting.Holy crap. Go podcasting.146801:34:00,480 --> 01:34:05,160Oh, I got a new get a new boostjingle for you today. Oh, yes,146901:34:05,310 --> 01:34:08,730I've been I've been waiting forit. As you know. I'm very good147001:34:08,730 --> 01:34:11,400about this. I never listened toany of your clips or anything.147101:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,880But I did load it up into theplayer. Are we ready? Not yet.147201:34:14,940 --> 01:34:16,170Okay. Yeah, we got three we got147301:34:18,210 --> 01:34:23,550$1 from Boris Kaczynski. Notsure if I'm saying that right.147401:34:23,580 --> 01:34:29,550That's a monthly donation. Thankyou, Boris. Boris. And got David147501:34:29,550 --> 01:34:33,300Mitas $10 Thank you, David.Monthly.147601:34:34,650 --> 01:34:38,340And Joseph Baraka $5. That'salso a monthly Thank you,147701:34:38,340 --> 01:34:42,210Joseph. All right. Mr. Graham'sWoolshed.147801:34:46,140 --> 01:34:47,760La Ah,147901:34:49,260 --> 01:34:51,930okay, these are two good man.Whoosh.148001:34:53,880 --> 01:34:58,200Okay, booster grams. Everyone'sfavorite part of the show. Signs148101:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,970of new growth. 33 Fat148201:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,31033,333 SATs through fountain. Hesays I did it all for the Toshi148301:35:05,490 --> 01:35:05,850de148401:35:07,020 --> 01:35:11,970Lancie. Very much nice. 3333This is a decent boost, man.148501:35:11,970 --> 01:35:13,620That's a good one. Appreciatethat.148601:35:15,990 --> 01:35:19,950Mike Newman, Mike sent me areally sweet email. And, uh,148701:35:20,610 --> 01:35:23,790Mike, I appreciate it. Thank youso much. It was very encouraging148801:35:24,330 --> 01:35:28,920to read his note this morning.Oh, nice. Yeah. Good guy, Mike,148901:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,920as soon as 22,104 SAS and149001:35:33,540 --> 01:35:37,020he says command line boostagain. This isn't but this now149101:35:37,020 --> 01:35:43,140should add up to 2112. Oh,excellent. Rush boost. Yep. He149201:35:43,140 --> 01:35:46,740sent that through the command tothe command line app and has is149301:35:46,740 --> 01:35:50,670called Type II type. Yes. Sojust showing up in our in our149401:35:50,670 --> 01:35:53,550daily reporting like who thehell was making Type II type?149501:35:53,820 --> 01:35:54,450Yeah.149601:35:55,590 --> 01:35:58,560Like what is type? What's typeIto? Boost149701:36:00,480 --> 01:36:04,650to SATs from Mike Newman. Oh,that's him testing his head149801:36:04,650 --> 01:36:08,280testing his plumbing. And hesays go podcasting? Yeah, well149901:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,310I'm not gonna hit the jingle fortwo SATs bro. Yeah, you below150001:36:11,310 --> 01:36:14,310the lie the way do Dave. Bitcoinis it150101:36:15,510 --> 01:36:24,51041,758 went up like five grandjust today? Yeah. What is I see150201:36:24,510 --> 01:36:28,290a straight green line. Right upmy chart. I wasn't even paying150301:36:28,290 --> 01:36:29,130attention to it.150401:36:30,480 --> 01:36:33,090What do you think that was? Whatdo you think's the deal? Pay no150501:36:33,090 --> 01:36:35,790attention to the financialmarkets, Please play it pay no150601:36:35,790 --> 01:36:38,970attention to the trillions ofdollars. The Federal Reserve is150701:36:38,970 --> 01:36:42,240lending banks overnight. And fortwo weeks, three weeks pay no150801:36:42,240 --> 01:36:47,760attention to the $300 trillionof derivatives. Pay no attention150901:36:47,760 --> 01:36:54,450to the inflation. All the peoplethat are commenting that Spotify151001:36:54,450 --> 01:36:59,100is stock is suffering because ofpeople like pulling their music.151101:36:59,100 --> 01:37:03,210Oh no, that is not true. No. Howabout they have less users than151201:37:03,210 --> 01:37:06,090they expected? And they lostmoney and they're gonna lose151301:37:06,090 --> 01:37:09,960more even more money next year.And the whole thing is overblown151401:37:09,960 --> 01:37:14,490to start off with the stockmarket is overvalued. Certainly151501:37:14,490 --> 01:37:18,240NASDAQ. I mean look, look at allthe red that has happened since151601:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,750the beginning of the year alltons of stocks are down days.151701:37:21,810 --> 01:37:27,960This is not new for them. All ofNASDAQ took just a serious dump151801:37:27,990 --> 01:37:31,740especially when Facebook whenFacebook now today NASDAQ is up151901:37:31,740 --> 01:37:35,820200 But that's just a seesaw thething here peloton stock surges?152001:37:36,570 --> 01:37:40,050Yeah, yeah, okay, after itflamed for it. So So yeah, until152101:37:40,050 --> 01:37:43,380someone crashes dies. And in amovie, oh, you got a heart152201:37:43,380 --> 01:37:47,460attack and the penalty in themovie stock drops 20%. Facebook152301:37:47,460 --> 01:37:51,840was down like 26%. Yeah. And youknow, why is152401:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,810it they lost users for the firsttime ever? What happened? They152501:37:57,810 --> 01:38:01,440lost $10 billion for the firsttime ever, not that they lost it152601:38:01,770 --> 01:38:07,890$10 billion revenue hit becauseof the iOS changes to how how152701:38:08,610 --> 01:38:13,320apps and Facebook has the SDK,everyone has Facebook's SDK. And152801:38:13,320 --> 01:38:17,670that SDK, they severely limitedwhat it was doing. You can only152901:38:17,670 --> 01:38:20,850imagine if you have a billionusers let's just say they have a153001:38:20,850 --> 01:38:25,740billion fine $10 billion sothat's at least 10 bucks ahead.153101:38:26,820 --> 01:38:29,430Every single person that theylost on you because Apple153201:38:29,430 --> 01:38:33,060decided not to give someinformation. I love it when I153301:38:33,060 --> 01:38:36,330hear James talking abouttracking well that just work out153401:38:36,330 --> 01:38:40,470what I had to give to you. Okay,fine. They know everything they153501:38:40,500 --> 01:38:44,820profile you as a human beingyour your behavior, your habits,153601:38:44,820 --> 01:38:47,370your location, where you go, whoyou meet with who you're in153701:38:47,370 --> 01:38:51,000proximity with. These are thethings that Apple turned off.153801:38:51,780 --> 01:38:55,230And it's $10 billion revenuehit. And that's why everyone got153901:38:55,230 --> 01:39:00,960hit. But when Snapchat piece ofcrap, they had they were they154001:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,080had positive numbers for thefirst time revenue numbers.154101:39:04,350 --> 01:39:07,950People like Snapchat mosthaven't figured out. They know154201:39:07,950 --> 01:39:14,340how to target. So they theypopped up 60% 60 It's It's It's154301:39:14,340 --> 01:39:19,710disgusting. The whole thing isjust disgusting. I mean, can we154401:39:21,540 --> 01:39:24,780So Microsoft, made like,154501:39:25,890 --> 01:39:28,440I don't know, they had like arecord record profit to the154601:39:28,440 --> 01:39:33,090border. I got $125 billion incash in the bank.154701:39:34,560 --> 01:39:41,820Apple record quarter. Amazonrecord quarter mean, these guys154801:39:41,850 --> 01:39:45,780these tech companies are makingmore money than God right now.154901:39:45,810 --> 01:39:47,130Well, yes, no.155001:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,080This Yes. But the real thing is155101:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,170they're buying back their ownstock.155201:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,700Enriching the executives andshareholders. Well, I155301:40:00,240 --> 01:40:04,590The reason I brought that upthough, was we as a company,155401:40:05,460 --> 01:40:08,040have Microsoft Volume Licensing.155501:40:09,179 --> 01:40:12,539Not not like us index but in myday job company, we have155601:40:13,980 --> 01:40:16,830contracts with Microsoft. We getthe word155701:40:18,420 --> 01:40:23,220back in like, early January, wegot the word that Microsoft155801:40:23,220 --> 01:40:27,540licensing on March one is goingup 20% across the board. Sure,155901:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,550because you know, supply chainissues.156001:40:31,170 --> 01:40:36,660This is Microsoft 365, office365 All their cloud, all their156101:40:36,660 --> 01:40:39,210cloud licensing all theirtraditional on premise156201:40:39,210 --> 01:40:42,990everything everything up. 30%.So when are you moving to Linux?156301:40:43,350 --> 01:40:47,970In the company? Well, you canyou can your business. You can't156401:40:47,970 --> 01:40:51,420it has to be Excel. It has to beword to be. Yeah, I remember156501:40:51,420 --> 01:40:55,950when, when I took my companypublic, it had to be WordPerfect156601:40:57,420 --> 01:40:59,8805.3 I believe.156701:41:01,140 --> 01:41:04,500That was the only WordPerfectversion you were allowed to use156801:41:04,500 --> 01:41:08,940for sec SEC filings. All thelawyers used it.156901:41:09,990 --> 01:41:16,770Dos? Yeah. DOS, DOS DOS, it hadthe s one document all in157001:41:17,970 --> 01:41:23,460WordPerfect was it the Fordslash was X XL for the first157101:41:23,970 --> 01:41:27,990while it may still have it, itsupports those slash commands157201:41:27,990 --> 01:41:29,550that Lotus 123 had.157301:41:31,980 --> 01:41:36,450I've never used them, but Iknow. You'd have like I was a157401:41:36,450 --> 01:41:42,060Macintosh lotus, jazz user,Lotus, Lotus, Jazz Jazz who came157501:41:42,060 --> 01:41:45,060on 18,000 floppies. youinstalled it on your Mac and157601:41:45,060 --> 01:41:46,080Lotus Giles.157701:41:47,340 --> 01:41:51,030First Net? Well, my first homenetwork was Novell.157801:41:52,440 --> 01:41:54,690No no it wasn't my first myfirst one was157901:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,390I forgot what they called it itwas the door it was a das TSR158001:42:00,390 --> 01:42:03,450Terminate and Stay Residentprogram it would do would158101:42:03,510 --> 01:42:05,100communicate in the backgroundall158201:42:06,150 --> 01:42:10,260in base to the head and bass twoconnectors the head the little158301:42:10,890 --> 01:42:13,830at you had to terminate them onthe end. You know, you'd have a158401:42:13,830 --> 01:42:14,250run of158501:42:15,510 --> 01:42:22,050turn s in the head and we hadthese orangey monochrome screens158601:42:22,500 --> 01:42:28,200running I think it was das threedos three two or three one. And158701:42:28,200 --> 01:42:28,710you had158801:42:30,390 --> 01:42:37,650the the the you had word was itWordStar Lotus 123 Yeah, yeah.158901:42:38,460 --> 01:42:40,320Man that's just that's likeancient159001:42:43,980 --> 01:42:49,530Oh yeah. Boost Yes. Chad Ferro3333 through fountain Asia says159101:42:49,710 --> 01:42:53,490PIP you Oh, that's one I didn'thave queued up I'm sorry.159201:42:54,900 --> 01:42:57,330I gotta, I gotta put that one inthe rack.159301:43:00,270 --> 01:43:04,200Steven B through curio caster.He references He refers to159401:43:04,200 --> 01:43:08,550himself as Steven B. Curiocaster coder. There you go and159501:43:08,550 --> 01:43:09,120then you go159601:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,440Adam, don't forget to usesovereign feeds instead of curio159701:43:13,440 --> 01:43:16,920caster RSS generator to publishyour feeds. Oh, friend feeds,159801:43:17,160 --> 01:43:21,150has all the latest updatesSecurio caster RSS generator159901:43:21,150 --> 01:43:23,880will only be updated after Iknow I didn't screw anything up160001:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,120on sovereign fees. Okay, so Ishould try and screw it up and160101:43:27,120 --> 01:43:31,200then if it doesn't work, then Igo back to curio cast. That's160201:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,370between us Steven Bay.160301:43:33,420 --> 01:43:35,820Yeah, got it. Thank you verymuch for reminding me Stephen.160401:43:35,940 --> 01:43:40,170It's perfect. It's a nice layouttoo. I really like it. That's160501:43:40,170 --> 01:43:44,4601934 sets do interestingnumerology. I don't know why I160601:43:44,460 --> 01:43:45,000chose that.160701:43:46,920 --> 01:43:51,750Let's see 10,000 sets from MikeHayden at red circle when he160801:43:51,750 --> 01:43:54,690sent it through curio caster andhe says Good thing I May Day160901:43:54,690 --> 01:43:55,890sign that NDA.161001:43:58,920 --> 01:44:00,720My lips are sealed Mike.161101:44:01,950 --> 01:44:04,740Say no more. Did you really signan NDA? Now? You didn't sign?161201:44:04,740 --> 01:44:10,470No. No, you wouldn't do that.That I know what it means. 4400161301:44:10,470 --> 01:44:15,540sets from horn loaded and hethrew fountain he says V four V161401:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,410Yes. all in caps. Thank you.Thank you very much. Boost161501:44:19,590 --> 01:44:26,430Woolshed karve hat. Sin is22,222 SATs a humongous row of161601:44:26,430 --> 01:44:30,930ducks. Oh, does he have a notethrough curio caster and he's161701:44:30,930 --> 01:44:32,250just as ducks161801:44:39,090 --> 01:44:46,380via Vila the unpronounceablename sorry, the VI l le Devi161901:44:46,380 --> 01:44:50,370ever decide V V V V L. Ville162001:44:51,390 --> 01:44:52,950villain. Wait, hold on.162101:44:55,710 --> 01:44:56,490And now162201:44:58,020 --> 01:44:59,970it is time for Livia162301:45:01,589 --> 01:45:04,439Are you trying to check youraccuracy by seeing if you can162401:45:04,439 --> 01:45:08,669match? Precisely what I'm doingDave Jones. That is beautiful. I162501:45:08,669 --> 01:45:08,999love it.162601:45:10,349 --> 01:45:15,719Via send us 1001 stats. Thankyou pod friend. He says I162701:45:15,719 --> 01:45:18,779understand that you Dave can'tsee any other way forward than162801:45:18,779 --> 01:45:21,809lightning BTC but I bet Brian ofLondon can come up with an162901:45:21,809 --> 01:45:22,469alternative.163001:45:23,670 --> 01:45:26,670And you get a look Smiley. Oh, Ibet he can't, but I bet he can163101:45:26,670 --> 01:45:27,000too.163201:45:28,260 --> 01:45:30,900I bet it's got something to dowith hive. Just a163301:45:32,400 --> 01:45:36,720dude's and it's 999 says throughfountain and he says, rounding163401:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,980up all those one set boostergrants. Thank you boosts. That's163501:45:40,980 --> 01:45:44,250how we do it. Oh, that's fromDaniel Daniel. Yeah. Okay. Thank163601:45:44,250 --> 01:45:44,670you, Dan.163701:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,7902222 sets from Kyron. The meremortals podcast big of the163801:45:50,790 --> 01:45:55,980devil, pod friend and he saysthanks, legends. My goals for my163901:45:55,980 --> 01:45:58,980goals for February are to getthe value for value podcast on164001:45:58,980 --> 01:46:02,820the Casta pod and to get somesort of node up and running. Oh,164101:46:02,820 --> 01:46:03,750Rola. No.164201:46:04,830 --> 01:46:07,620Boost. Wish me luck. quackquack.164301:46:09,420 --> 01:46:12,000Was it TOS yes road docks164401:46:16,740 --> 01:46:20,310Brian mozzie says 10,000 SAS newfountain and he says can't wait164501:46:20,310 --> 01:46:23,670to receive my Umbral so I canlatch on to the podcasting 2.0164601:46:23,670 --> 01:46:28,950Freedom wrath. Yeah, yeah.That's right lash onto the raft,164701:46:28,950 --> 01:46:31,830baby. You got to read Snow CrashDave. You got to read it.164801:46:34,530 --> 01:46:37,620It's really writing it. It'sreally well. It's really whether164901:46:37,620 --> 01:46:39,690you like it. Okay. I just wroteit down.165001:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,0201111 SATs165101:46:44,490 --> 01:46:47,910through pot friend. This isanonymous. And the message says165201:46:47,910 --> 01:46:52,350great podcast. Well, thank you,whoever you are. Mysterious,165301:46:52,350 --> 01:46:54,330anonymous donor anonymous donor.165401:46:55,410 --> 01:47:01,470Sir Pete gave us 12,222 says. Hesays Don't just stand there165501:47:01,470 --> 01:47:02,730boost Yes.165601:47:03,750 --> 01:47:05,130Boost Instagram165701:47:07,020 --> 01:47:09,750propagate the message ofpodcasting 2.0 to investors,165801:47:09,750 --> 01:47:13,350developers and producers. Byworking the algos on LinkedIn.165901:47:13,620 --> 01:47:16,410Every day after the episodesdrops, there's a fresh ready to166001:47:16,410 --> 01:47:20,580go post on LinkedIn. And it Yes,he does that every single166101:47:20,610 --> 01:47:25,110episode and I think it matters.I really appreciate it. LinkedIn166201:47:25,110 --> 01:47:29,340is an under utilized socialmedia for a lot of people. I166301:47:29,340 --> 01:47:32,580refuse to go on it I have anaccount refused to go on it166401:47:32,580 --> 01:47:37,920because I just can't handleanother social network. No, I166501:47:37,920 --> 01:47:42,330deleted my LinkedIn profile. Ifinally did because I just, I166601:47:42,330 --> 01:47:45,600just can't handle it. You'renever going to your platen to166701:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,420put your paneling on hireable atthis point anyway, um, you'd use166801:47:48,420 --> 01:47:51,840one of those Kooks? Oh yeah,yeah, absolutely. I mean, you do166901:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,520a podcast with that um, you guysyou're done.167001:47:55,350 --> 01:47:59,220You better find out find acareer with me or otherwise it's167101:47:59,220 --> 01:48:02,850over it's over. So I had thisbuddy there's a there's a real167201:48:02,850 --> 01:48:07,080prominent lawyer here inAlabama, Alexander Shannara. And167301:48:07,920 --> 01:48:12,060he's like a you know he's a whatdo you call it? One of the guys167401:48:12,060 --> 01:48:14,400that sue people for injury likeinjury large Personal Injury167501:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,880ambulance chaser just Yeah, Iwas not Dallas trying not to167601:48:17,910 --> 01:48:21,570Thomas jet. No, these guys havethe best commercials. Thomas.167701:48:22,260 --> 01:48:25,500I'm gonna fix. I'll get youmillions of dollars. Well, he167801:48:25,500 --> 01:48:31,230calls himself the Alabamahammer. Exactly. Alabama hammer,167901:48:31,230 --> 01:48:38,850we'll get you paid. Yeah. So Iknew a guy who a long time ago168001:48:38,850 --> 01:48:42,180that was going he was a lawyer.And he was going, he got offered168101:48:42,180 --> 01:48:48,300a job from from this firm. Andall of his friends he got all of168201:48:48,300 --> 01:48:51,630his friends said don't do it.Because once you go and work for168301:48:51,630 --> 01:48:54,480this guy, you'll never work forany landlord anywhere else.168401:48:54,480 --> 01:48:57,690Yeah, you get blacklisted. Yeah.And168501:48:59,100 --> 01:48:59,550I don't168601:49:00,630 --> 01:49:01,980cannot reveal what he did.168701:49:03,840 --> 01:49:04,980But he's making a lot moremoney.168801:49:07,350 --> 01:49:07,800Okay.168901:49:10,140 --> 01:49:14,880Cool. McCormick gave us 333 setsthrough fountain and he says I'm169001:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,290boosting while I'm169101:49:17,970 --> 01:49:20,460okay. Okay. Um169201:49:23,490 --> 01:49:24,750we may need to cut this out169301:49:25,890 --> 01:49:27,600or not? Yeah.169401:49:28,770 --> 01:49:32,610Yeah, I think so. Let me juststart over here.169501:49:34,200 --> 01:49:38,970We got a donation for 333 setsthrough fountain. And this169601:49:38,970 --> 01:49:41,940person says, I'm boosting youwhile delivering weed.169701:49:44,940 --> 01:49:48,480I don't think we have to editthat out. You don't Okay. He's169801:49:48,480 --> 01:49:51,930delivering it to my door forheaven's sake, a coma.169901:49:53,790 --> 01:49:56,670Okay, it's probably illegal.It's illegal. It's legal in some170001:49:56,670 --> 01:50:00,000states day if you don't know hissituation. He may not even be in170101:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,340The US you may not even be weed.170201:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,760It may be actual ways, right?Just a big bag of weed you go170301:50:11,849 --> 01:50:17,879see, just Justin de Zhong fromMichigan says first boost, boost170401:50:17,879 --> 01:50:18,569or die170501:50:20,850 --> 01:50:24,150that was 500 sets WelcomeWelcome to the party power170601:50:24,480 --> 01:50:29,010booster die. Wow. Coming in withserious I like that idea170701:50:29,100 --> 01:50:31,800booster. Another t shirtopportunity.170801:50:33,480 --> 01:50:39,810Store die. Nomad Joe 750 says hesays tick tock me more170901:50:44,250 --> 01:50:50,190and now it's time for some hotnamespace talk. We haven't done171001:50:50,190 --> 01:50:53,010that in a while. Yeah, it's anold one. Yeah, it's a classic171101:50:53,010 --> 01:50:54,000from the archives.171201:50:55,710 --> 01:50:58,680Where this show is now oldenough. We have archives Yes, we171301:50:58,680 --> 01:51:03,060do. We have archives. We'reready for a season tag. Season.171401:51:04,740 --> 01:51:08,790Cast Pelland gave us 3300 setsand through fountain he says he171501:51:08,790 --> 01:51:11,730says haha, the content of mynickname. Thanks.171601:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,450Now that part we might have tocut out if we go into that171701:51:15,450 --> 01:51:17,910again. Yeah, yeah, let's not dop LAN. No.171801:51:19,680 --> 01:51:23,8801000 SATs from anonymous throughbreeze and it says Fletcher says171901:51:23,910 --> 01:51:30,750boost boost Fletcher that's notFletcher. No. I don't think we172001:51:30,750 --> 01:51:32,880don't have a flood. We don'thave a flood you're saying boost172101:51:32,910 --> 01:51:34,410now. Well, we all do.172201:51:35,940 --> 01:51:39,000That is quite an oversightoversight. I think yeah, there's172301:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,930no Fletcher boost not nothingI'm aware of. Caspi Lind again,172401:51:42,930 --> 01:51:47,130he gave us 1000 SATs. He says togive some details about my172501:51:47,130 --> 01:51:52,050nickname, it should be cheesefrom P land in English. P stands172601:51:52,050 --> 01:51:53,760for sugar beet in this case.172701:51:55,530 --> 01:51:58,290Okay, he's got a link here. Ilove that people can see the172801:51:58,290 --> 01:52:03,900links in blue sent the link inthe booster gram. Yes. Cool. Oh,172901:52:03,900 --> 01:52:07,140wait, it's a picture. Okay, I'mgonna I'm gonna break every rule173001:52:07,140 --> 01:52:09,780and I'm going to click on thispicture. And hope that this is173101:52:09,780 --> 01:52:12,120nothing nothing terrible. Oh,well, it's just a picture of173201:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,700sugar beets. What happened tothe good old days of goatse173301:52:16,350 --> 01:52:17,190go God.173401:52:19,260 --> 01:52:23,700Hey, kids, go and google thatone. No place now. Okay, this is173501:52:23,700 --> 01:52:26,310sugar beets. I guess they'rejust laying on the ground sugar173601:52:26,310 --> 01:52:30,060beets big deal in Holland. Oh,are they? That's what people ate173701:52:30,060 --> 01:52:34,890during the World War Two theHunger Winter 45 They would get173801:52:34,890 --> 01:52:37,770on their bicycles with woodentires and bike for 100173901:52:37,770 --> 01:52:41,190kilometers just to get a sugarbeet and then eat it with the174001:52:41,940 --> 01:52:46,410nettle soup with rocks. Not likethis. I guess you can't174101:52:47,610 --> 01:52:50,490I guess there's no sugar canethat's not the right climate. So174201:52:50,490 --> 01:52:54,390you need meat and horses like itof course horses eat sugar beets174301:52:55,800 --> 01:52:57,840Sigit picture the sugar beetThank you. I174401:53:01,170 --> 01:53:02,400put this in show notes.174501:53:04,770 --> 01:53:08,010He's pretty janky looking sugarbeets are pretty nasty looking174601:53:08,130 --> 01:53:11,130good. Going into show notes forsure. Even putting them in our174701:53:11,130 --> 01:53:16,230folder for today. He says lovethe Dutch. I know. Boost boosts.174801:53:16,260 --> 01:53:22,110Yeah, boost anonymous. Anotheranother flutter says boost some174901:53:22,110 --> 01:53:24,930but somebody somebody ispoliticking for a Fletcher175001:53:24,930 --> 01:53:28,500boost? Yeah, this is weird. Itmay be him. He may be175101:53:28,500 --> 01:53:29,670politicking himself.175201:53:31,950 --> 01:53:34,740And there's another one foranother 1000 says Wow. somebody175301:53:34,740 --> 01:53:35,580really wants this175401:53:36,660 --> 01:53:42,480is all anonymous. Yellow zoskysaid he gave us 33,333 SATs.175501:53:43,440 --> 01:53:47,640He's from the consumer choiceradio podcast. No. Good guy.175601:53:48,240 --> 01:53:52,500Longtime libertarian thinkerfound through fountain nap and175701:53:52,500 --> 01:53:57,420he says hello. Hello from Vaxmandated Austria. Umbral is175801:53:57,420 --> 01:54:00,870booming. BTC Miner is hot andloud and podcaster wallets175901:54:00,870 --> 01:54:04,740banging Yeah. For non Frenchfrancophones out there, check176001:54:04,740 --> 01:54:10,950out the podcast. Lim touchseriously. Let lemma Lyn lemon176101:54:10,950 --> 01:54:13,380lint in this okay, spell it forme.176201:54:14,550 --> 01:54:15,270Le s176301:54:16,740 --> 01:54:22,290Marlin pindus ma L e n t e n d us176401:54:23,970 --> 01:54:29,100Valentijn Dawn tenders Lemma andtenders the misunderstood is176501:54:29,100 --> 01:54:32,550what that means. Yeah, okay.Everyone who just listened to me176601:54:32,580 --> 01:54:33,840misunderstood what I said.176701:54:35,790 --> 01:54:39,840Absolutely. That is a wasonomatopoeia. Yeah. Oh my god a176801:54:39,840 --> 01:54:40,470jingle for.176901:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,360Between A that is themisunderstood between a French177001:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,330Canadian and a Luxembourger onFrancophone politics and177101:54:51,330 --> 01:54:55,080culture. That's actually prettyfunny. I'll bet that it Yeah.177201:54:55,080 --> 01:54:58,350Especially with Alexa poser. Iwish I could. I'm sure there's177301:54:58,380 --> 01:54:59,970no speaking English, we'reLuxembourg.177401:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,790It's like a non Country. It'swhere everyone has their177501:55:02,790 --> 01:55:06,000banking. It's like177601:55:09,240 --> 01:55:13,680where do you have we have ourBahamas with no, no. What is our177701:55:13,680 --> 01:55:18,330LLC state here? beiden state? OhDelaware Delaware. Yeah, this is177801:55:18,330 --> 01:55:21,570kind of like a Delaware ofEurope. Saudi Ireland. Yeah.177901:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,390Well, you have I think you havea royal family and then bunch of178001:55:24,390 --> 01:55:24,810banks.178101:55:26,640 --> 01:55:29,820Guys, you got a palace. You gota cool casino and a bunch of178201:55:29,820 --> 01:55:33,420banks and consumer choice radioif you want to hear crib. Yeah,178301:55:33,750 --> 01:55:37,140yeah, pick and vaping Wow,they're getting wild in178401:55:38,250 --> 01:55:41,130Luxembourg. Yeah, I like it.178501:55:42,690 --> 01:55:46,350He's a wildcat. This Umbral manpeople are digging this. This178601:55:46,380 --> 01:55:51,030Umbral is with Halle pad is madefor podcasters. The new version178701:55:51,030 --> 01:55:53,850is a lot better. It's a lot morestable. It's very see I like the178801:55:53,850 --> 01:56:00,87014 for 14 Is it now?1314 1213 1313 Yeah. John's BRT,178901:56:00,900 --> 01:56:09,990give us EU baller boost 49,490sets Bala shot kala Blaze on em179001:56:09,990 --> 01:56:11,460Paulo nice.179101:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,910And his messages to179201:56:16,800 --> 01:56:17,220that's it179301:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,760really unsatisfying now but it'sstill good for me. Yeah.179401:56:25,350 --> 01:56:27,750stim are stemmer 42.179501:56:28,890 --> 01:56:32,520Gave us 1000 SATs and he saysTristan from fountain. Alright,179601:56:32,550 --> 01:56:36,480thank you. Thank you, steamer 42John's VRT again with another179701:56:36,480 --> 01:56:40,41049,490 Shot call 20179801:56:42,960 --> 01:56:43,710give you179901:56:45,870 --> 01:56:46,590like each other.180001:56:48,900 --> 01:56:52,140And another one from John's VRT.4949180101:56:53,250 --> 01:56:56,880No, that's not it's not aboutoh, he only gets one few. Yes.180201:56:59,520 --> 01:57:04,080Just a little pick me up. Again.One of the boost is that this is180301:57:04,080 --> 01:57:07,860better for after the big ball orit's mood boost.180401:57:08,940 --> 01:57:13,320Thanks for the boost. Okay, soTim K. The Bootstrap bandit. Oh,180501:57:13,320 --> 01:57:17,160yeah. He gave us a bunch alittle bit. A little bit180601:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,260donations, but I'm gonna readhim though. Yeah.180701:57:20,490 --> 01:57:22,530Hi. 69.180801:57:23,850 --> 01:57:26,820Two emojis. I can't decipher.And180901:57:27,960 --> 01:57:32,670another high and a emoji thisthe finger pointing up. Okay,181001:57:32,670 --> 01:57:35,850great. Yes, me. Now this soundedto me like it was a nasty gram.181101:57:37,020 --> 01:57:37,740Speaker.181201:57:38,820 --> 01:57:42,750Pictures you can't decode. Yeah,a progressive nasty grandpa's181301:57:42,750 --> 01:57:44,040when that was yeah, gotcha.181401:57:45,780 --> 01:57:50,370See, John's BRT, again with 4949and a few.181501:57:52,290 --> 01:57:55,050I think your P was better than Iwant that in the new heli pad181601:57:55,050 --> 01:57:56,760release you doing that? You do.181701:57:57,960 --> 01:57:58,320Okay.181801:57:59,970 --> 01:58:03,720Thank you. Yeah. The Pew iscool. You can also just from181901:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,300time to time, do a bar and d.182001:58:07,320 --> 01:58:11,010State call random. Yeah, itwouldn't be fun if you're heavy182101:58:11,010 --> 01:58:12,690pad just one boost.182201:58:14,010 --> 01:58:17,130That is, that's a good one.That's just every now and you182301:58:17,130 --> 01:58:19,740can't you never know when it'sgoing to happen. Well, how about182401:58:19,740 --> 01:58:25,290that's over over 10,000 SATsboost. You know, you've you've182501:58:25,320 --> 01:58:29,130you've already you're getting inon I've a PR request to have a182601:58:29,130 --> 01:58:32,070pull request ready to go. You'retalking about I'm able curry182701:58:32,070 --> 01:58:34,830beat you to it because he'sdoing this doing this. Oh,182801:58:34,830 --> 01:58:38,970excellent. Oh, brilliant mindsthink alike. Only the good ones182901:58:38,970 --> 01:58:42,390can implement it though. That'snot me. Everything everywhere.183001:58:42,900 --> 01:58:48,390Gary aren't our buddy. Throughfountain he sent us 3141 SATs.183101:58:48,660 --> 01:58:51,900He says the last few weeks haveshown why open podcasting is a183201:58:51,900 --> 01:58:54,780must. Hopefully some big playerswill embrace it once they183301:58:54,780 --> 01:58:58,110realize they can't dominate it.Gary aren't everything183401:58:58,110 --> 01:59:01,350everywhere daily. Thank you,Gary. And I've seen his posts183501:59:01,350 --> 01:59:04,800and I've seen his overall hisoverall messaging. Don't get too183601:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,460hung up on the big boys, Gary.Yeah, don't get too hung. Don't183701:59:08,460 --> 01:59:11,820get too hung up on big showsusing it don't get too it'll all183801:59:11,820 --> 01:59:16,200happen. This is you can't forceit. It just takes time. The183901:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,140moments when all of a suddenpeople hear about it are184001:59:19,140 --> 01:59:21,840magical. We're living one rightnow kind of184101:59:23,130 --> 01:59:26,040this is the groundswell and thisis going to be more and more and184201:59:26,040 --> 01:59:29,010more of a don't get hung up onApple do they're not going to do184301:59:29,010 --> 01:59:30,990it. Apple's not going to do it.Spotify is not going to do it.184401:59:30,990 --> 01:59:32,820Amazon's not gonna Google's notgoing to do it.184501:59:33,900 --> 01:59:36,240The author is going to do it aspodcasters telling their184601:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,570audiences to use a modernpodcast app for all the reasons184701:59:39,570 --> 01:59:43,470we discussed. One thing I wantto ask Gary is I've boost a184801:59:43,470 --> 01:59:47,730boost in his body and in hisshow, he says, leave me a review184901:59:47,760 --> 01:59:51,000or send me a question and I'llread it out on the show. And you185001:59:51,000 --> 01:59:56,730do. I've boosted him things.Some booster grabbed him, and185101:59:56,730 --> 01:59:59,970I'm I have not heard it on theshow. And I need to185202:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,790hear it on the show. That's thebest show. Yeah, yeah.185302:00:03,899 --> 02:00:07,379You have to that's you got toclose the loop man. Closed loop.185402:00:07,769 --> 02:00:11,159I'm going to keep boosting youuntil I hear my message on your185502:00:11,159 --> 02:00:16,139show Gary boost. It's a boostsooner I'm going to boost Nami185602:00:16,139 --> 02:00:17,279you until I hear it.185702:00:18,900 --> 02:00:22,950Boost khaki I think is the termyou're looking for. Now that185802:00:22,950 --> 02:00:24,270would be if we all boosted185902:00:28,830 --> 02:00:31,470alright tonight eight o'clocksynchronized watches we all186002:00:31,470 --> 02:00:36,180boost Gary at the same time.It's a boost Kakei. This word186102:00:36,180 --> 02:00:39,180does not need to exist but itwas wiped from the lexicon. I186202:00:39,180 --> 02:00:42,600saw a different one though I sawboosts chain from hug story.186302:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,590Hashtag thanks, chain Well, Ithink you boost they're doing it186402:00:46,590 --> 02:00:49,800live. Okay, I think you boostand then you can boost to186502:00:49,800 --> 02:00:53,850someone's boost. I gotta I gottaCarolyn Blaney and they're doing186602:00:53,850 --> 02:00:55,860crazy shit over there. I'mtelling you this people are186702:00:55,890 --> 02:00:59,310running away with this stuffnow. Well, I mean, Sir Spencer186802:00:59,310 --> 02:01:02,250and Abel Kirby and all that.They're all nuts. Tech totally186902:01:02,250 --> 02:01:03,180crazy. And that187002:01:04,290 --> 02:01:07,890we love them. This is what weneed reckless behavior. Perfect187102:01:07,890 --> 02:01:10,710behavior. Hashtag reckless.Please run with scissors. It's187202:01:10,710 --> 02:01:14,730podcasting. 2.0 What could gowrong? That that's your shirt187302:01:14,730 --> 02:01:15,090right there.187402:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,400That's your shirt. That's it.187502:01:22,380 --> 02:01:25,770Comic Strip blogger. rounding itout. He's the delimiter That's187602:01:25,770 --> 02:01:30,270right. We've reached the end.He's here. Yes. 10,033 says187702:01:30,270 --> 02:01:33,090through pod friend. He saysgreetings to podcast index.org.187802:01:33,090 --> 02:01:36,720Team. Thank you for your serviceto podcasting and you're warmly187902:01:36,720 --> 02:01:41,070invited to listen to our podcastentitled AI cooking. Read by188002:01:41,070 --> 02:01:44,700former BBC actor and currentowner of four pubs in Kent.188102:01:44,850 --> 02:01:47,490Gregory William Forsythe Foremanyo188202:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,200that's it everybody boost whenyou can keep those numbers up.188302:01:56,280 --> 02:01:57,810It looks like a lot but it's notreally.188402:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,040Please check check your numbers.It looks like a lot but not188502:02:02,040 --> 02:02:06,450really. But we appreciateeverybody extra. Who boosted188602:02:06,450 --> 02:02:10,200this week because all of yoursets have been received and they188702:02:10,200 --> 02:02:14,760are now worth about 15% Morethan when you send them. The188802:02:14,760 --> 02:02:18,720donation said the booster gramsegment is the longest way to188902:02:19,140 --> 02:02:22,560explain to get $20 in forever inthe189002:02:23,760 --> 02:02:28,350guy standing with a cup has aneasier job than we do. Yes.189102:02:31,230 --> 02:02:34,620I don't know if you what youwish you could even this less189202:02:34,620 --> 02:02:35,910than minimum wage if youweren't.189302:02:37,500 --> 02:02:40,770But we know from the way valuefor value works, though. I mean,189402:02:40,770 --> 02:02:43,830it always evens out. If you askpeople to send what they think189502:02:43,830 --> 02:02:47,940it's worth. It always evenslook, I've learned189602:02:49,410 --> 02:02:52,380the way I've lived is whenever Ineeded money, I just said okay,189702:02:52,380 --> 02:02:55,050it should it'd be cool to havesome money to like pay the rent189802:02:55,110 --> 02:02:59,490and then shows up somehow. Thishas been my life. So I know that189902:02:59,790 --> 02:03:02,370you know we've got our expenses.Were kind of covering the190002:03:02,370 --> 02:03:05,940expenses sometimes a little bitmore. We were good.190102:03:07,020 --> 02:03:09,780We could do a hell of a lotbetter. We could all will be190202:03:09,780 --> 02:03:12,060great to put some money in ourpocket. But I don't see that190302:03:12,060 --> 02:03:15,630happening for a quarter for theforeseeable future net forever.190402:03:18,180 --> 02:03:21,570Did you see the hate mail thatwe got? Oh, no. Oh, no. What do190502:03:21,570 --> 02:03:22,020you mean?190602:03:23,130 --> 02:03:26,400No like it like 430 thisafternoon? Oh crap, I missed it.190702:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,430No, I'm going to anonymize it onthe fly. But it is pretty funny.190802:03:29,460 --> 02:03:29,850Okay.190902:03:31,860 --> 02:03:35,400says, Hi, I'm contacting youtoday because my podcast listing191002:03:35,400 --> 02:03:36,810is not correct. Again.191102:03:37,890 --> 02:03:41,250My, my website should be blah,blah, blah. And my podcast feed191202:03:41,250 --> 02:03:44,490should be blah, blah, blah. I'mvery frustrated that I have to191302:03:44,490 --> 02:03:47,730babysit your company to get mylisting up to date is very191402:03:47,730 --> 02:03:51,120inconvenient. And if I have tokeep babysitting your company to191502:03:51,120 --> 02:03:54,330make the correct changes, thenyou can pay me $20 an hour.191602:03:54,510 --> 02:03:58,860Since then, I would be kind ofworking for you. Perhaps you191702:03:58,860 --> 02:04:01,650should just let the user addtheir own website and RSS feeds191802:04:01,710 --> 02:04:05,220because your company can't seemto get anything right. Wow. This191902:04:05,220 --> 02:04:08,340is great. And you anonymizingthis person this is nothing no192002:04:08,340 --> 02:04:12,330agenda way these people you callout by name and make a fun fun192102:04:12,330 --> 02:04:15,630deal out of it. This ishilarious. No, no. Well, well,192202:04:15,630 --> 02:04:19,140well, no, but we're really sorrythat we once again our company,192302:04:19,170 --> 02:04:22,830our enormous Corporation. We'revery sorry the company screwed192402:04:22,830 --> 02:04:26,070it up. But when in fact there'soh my god, Dave. We're getting192502:04:26,070 --> 02:04:28,890calls from the VC they can'tbelieve that we've screwed it up192602:04:28,890 --> 02:04:31,800once again that like the on thephone like you guys here we got192702:04:31,800 --> 02:04:33,780people complaining. Yeah.192802:04:35,160 --> 02:04:39,630We're gonna have to go onColbert and apologize. Yes. What192902:04:39,630 --> 02:04:42,870was the problem? What was theproblem? And you $20 No, don't193002:04:42,870 --> 02:04:46,920do that. Our God. What was theproblem? Just a reset needed on193102:04:46,920 --> 02:04:49,680his feed? They just moved tostate and didn't do a redirect.193202:04:49,710 --> 02:04:53,940Oh, okay. But somehow it's ourstupid, our stupid corporation193302:04:54,240 --> 02:04:57,660who can't get it together.That's great. Why doesn't193402:04:57,660 --> 02:04:59,970everybody understand bye bye.193502:05:00,299 --> 02:05:04,409By the way, the global hive mindthat I changed my feed you are193602:05:04,439 --> 02:05:07,799Yes. Yes. And why doesn'teverybody understand just by193702:05:07,799 --> 02:05:10,769looking at our website? We'renot a big corporation.193802:05:12,509 --> 02:05:16,259It should be evident. It shouldbe obvious to you. Yeah.193902:05:18,300 --> 02:05:23,190We try. We try. We try. We dotry. And we fail. Ah, try again.194002:05:23,400 --> 02:05:27,420Long week for you, Mr. Dave. Itis we doing this weekend I'm194102:05:27,420 --> 02:05:29,790going to do on this weekend.This weekend, I'm going to be194202:05:29,790 --> 02:05:33,270working on trying to get theindex194302:05:34,440 --> 02:05:39,270to be better about refreshingmetadata in episodes. Oh, okay.194402:05:39,300 --> 02:05:40,920Yeah, so I messed it up. Yeah.194502:05:42,060 --> 02:05:43,620Let me just run through it realquick.194602:05:44,850 --> 02:05:51,510is, so the issue is just purely,it's some technical debt that I194702:05:51,510 --> 02:05:55,710have to go and fix. And I was ina hurry yesterday from being194802:05:55,710 --> 02:05:59,010basically I wasn't explainingthis well. But what I was trying194902:05:59,010 --> 02:06:01,110to say is that195002:06:02,760 --> 02:06:06,630there's a performance, excuseme, there's not a there's not an195102:06:06,630 --> 02:06:09,990agreed upon way within withinthe world within the world of195202:06:09,990 --> 02:06:16,710RSS. To know, to do this, to saythat a feed has been an item has195302:06:16,710 --> 02:06:18,300changed, you really195402:06:19,410 --> 02:06:20,460just have to195502:06:23,730 --> 02:06:26,490what am I trying to say that youcan tell the feed has changed,195602:06:26,670 --> 02:06:31,440but there's not an accepted wayto know that an item has195702:06:31,440 --> 02:06:36,990changed. That also does notintroduce a lot of, of false195802:06:36,990 --> 02:06:41,910positive stuff. And so there's alot of feed generators out there195902:06:41,910 --> 02:06:46,380that, that update their, theirfeed content dynamically.196002:06:47,520 --> 02:06:51,480Right, and it will really screwyou up, because you will end up196102:06:52,620 --> 02:06:57,300sucking in and doing in spendingall of this performance time196202:06:57,300 --> 02:07:00,390hammering your database onupdating items that really are196302:07:00,390 --> 02:07:03,930just these, these non-systemicis setting a new timestamp for196402:07:03,930 --> 02:07:07,470you automatically or somethingscrews up your aggregation i Oh,196502:07:07,470 --> 02:07:10,020hey, I've been through this withyou for a decade, my friend?196602:07:10,140 --> 02:07:13,320Yes, I know, I know what you'resaying. I know the pain. One an196702:07:13,320 --> 02:07:14,880example of this, go look at196802:07:15,930 --> 02:07:18,960Librivox. Their RSS feeds areterrible.196902:07:20,250 --> 02:07:23,940But, but they're necessary. Imean, Librivox, we have, you197002:07:23,940 --> 02:07:26,700know, we need those things inthe index. Those are important.197102:07:27,750 --> 02:07:34,470But they're, these are bad. Soone. So what made the trade off197202:07:34,500 --> 02:07:39,750early on at the very beginningto performance reasons, because197302:07:39,750 --> 02:07:43,260we don't have a lot of money tospend on server horsepower. A197402:07:43,260 --> 02:07:48,300made the trade off of saying,I'm not going to update the197502:07:48,450 --> 02:07:54,090episode metadata. Unless it'ssomething like title. I think197602:07:54,090 --> 02:07:57,840that may be the only thing. Andthe reason is because we didn't197702:07:57,840 --> 02:08:00,600have a big enough databaseserver to handle right. Just all197802:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,810the data, just the data, thepure data. Yeah, that's just no197902:08:03,810 --> 02:08:08,760agenda Show Notes alone. Yeah.And so what I've done is, I had198002:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,100started working on this aboutthree months ago.198102:08:12,390 --> 02:08:17,730And then dropped it because wegot a lot of other stuff going198202:08:17,730 --> 02:08:18,030on.198302:08:19,080 --> 02:08:22,620And Hello, Pat and a lot ofstuff. So now I'm going to get198402:08:22,620 --> 02:08:27,570back to now realize when I wentback to it yesterday, that I had198502:08:27,570 --> 02:08:30,390gotten further along with thecode than I thought I had so198602:08:30,390 --> 02:08:34,860good. is really one of thosepleasant surprises. Yeah. All198702:08:34,860 --> 02:08:36,600right. I see what I did here.Okay.198802:08:37,650 --> 02:08:40,230I haven't with my code all thetime. I go back to my old code.198902:08:40,230 --> 02:08:42,660I'm so happy. You're AppleScriptYeah, right.199002:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,710What's this MAC drive? It'strying to act.199102:08:48,510 --> 02:08:51,240So anyway, that that's, that'ssomething I'm gonna be working199202:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,420on this week. And I hope withinHey, man, why don't you Why199302:08:54,420 --> 02:08:55,890don't we Why don't you take199402:08:57,420 --> 02:08:59,940some money out of the node andgo take your wife out for199502:08:59,940 --> 02:09:01,710dinner? Yes.199602:09:03,150 --> 02:09:05,910paid directly from the node.Yeah, no, of course you have to199702:09:05,910 --> 02:09:09,120use breeze and cook it up andran into an offer to pay them in199802:09:09,120 --> 02:09:13,410SATs but take your wife. Takeyour wife out to dinner.199902:09:14,490 --> 02:09:17,340I should just do that and showwhen the waiter comes for the200002:09:17,340 --> 02:09:21,180bill. You just say my breeze?No, no, no, this is what you do.200102:09:21,240 --> 02:09:24,750Okay, you ready? So obviouslyyou can't take any money because200202:09:24,750 --> 02:09:27,720we don't have any to give. Buthere's what you do. Take her out200302:09:27,720 --> 02:09:30,870nice restaurant. And when thebill comes you say baby this was200402:09:30,870 --> 02:09:32,220from podcasting? 2.0200502:09:34,680 --> 02:09:40,170just say just say it fuck yeah,it's not it's not no but just in200602:09:40,170 --> 02:09:44,760life credits it is like credit.Karma. You got lots of good200702:09:44,760 --> 02:09:49,500karma. Baby all those hours Ispent writing code in the in the200802:09:49,500 --> 02:09:51,510closet. A slow eat slow200902:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,890No, no, you know, heavy on theone. Just a little bit. All201002:09:58,890 --> 02:10:00,000right, I'm gonna let you go.201102:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,600Oh man, we both got it. ThanksDave and have a great weekend201202:10:03,600 --> 02:10:05,070brother. I'll be we'll betalking.201302:10:06,240 --> 02:10:08,730Everybody else Thank you verymuch for attending this late and201402:10:08,730 --> 02:10:11,730somewhat prolonged board meetingof podcasting 2.0 We look201502:10:11,730 --> 02:10:14,190forward to seeing you nextfriday Same time, same place See201602:10:14,190 --> 02:10:14,580you then201702:10:31,050 --> 02:10:36,330do you have been listening topodcasting 2.0 Visit podcast201802:10:36,330 --> 02:10:39,090index.org For more information201902:10:44,250 --> 02:10:44,940boost