Episode 72: Hitting the Apex

1 00:00:00,299 --> 00:00:05,489 podcasting 2.0 February 4 2020 to Episode 72 We're hitting the 2 00:00:05,489 --> 00:00:06,359 apex 3 00:00:08,340 --> 00:00:09,870 except on that intro, I didn't quite 4 00:00:12,540 --> 00:00:15,390 everybody, welcome to podcasting. 2.0 It is the 5 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:19,500 official meeting of the Board of podcasting 2.0 where we discuss 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,900 podcast index.org the podcast namespace and of course, all the 7 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:28,650 genius you that takes place in his creative podcasting, 8 00:00:28,650 --> 00:00:31,830 lifestyle social, am Adam curry here in the heartland of Texas 9 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:34,650 Hill Country and then Alabama. When he's not moving cables, 10 00:00:34,650 --> 00:00:37,380 he's moving minds. Say hello to my friend on the other end. 11 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:43,530 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Dave Jones. Apex is a squishy term. 12 00:00:45,390 --> 00:00:50,700 You can loosely define an apex, I blew the the apex of what do 13 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:52,920 you understand of hitting the apex? 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,060 Hitting the apex would be like when you're in a race car going 15 00:00:57,060 --> 00:01:01,170 around the turn? Yes, perfect. It's the perfect line. Chris 16 00:01:01,530 --> 00:01:04,710 That's it. That's it. That's it. When I did the 17 00:01:06,090 --> 00:01:11,250 show was it was the Indy 500 celebrity race. When you're in 18 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:12,360 Indy 500 card 19 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:16,140 well, actually back when I was at MTV, because you could be 20 00:01:16,140 --> 00:01:17,280 everything back in the day. 21 00:01:18,450 --> 00:01:21,810 They had that they had some promotion with Chevy and 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,050 remember the Chevy geo was that car still around the Chevy Geo? 23 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:25,860 Oh, yeah. 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,870 Yeah little compact car. And and so the idea was to have 25 00:01:31,710 --> 00:01:36,390 celebrities music celebrities race on the actual circuit was 26 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:40,260 in Denver that year on the street circuit before Indy did 27 00:01:40,260 --> 00:01:44,370 their official race. So we we trained for like three days in 28 00:01:44,370 --> 00:01:48,270 Arizona with Bob bond Durand, and you know, did all the but it 29 00:01:48,270 --> 00:01:52,110 was weird. You know, like guys from white lion guys from poison 30 00:01:52,110 --> 00:01:52,680 lion. 31 00:01:55,020 --> 00:01:59,850 Oh, what was that saw with the children cry? Well, yes, I think 32 00:01:59,850 --> 00:02:01,170 that's it. Yeah, I think that's it. 33 00:02:02,730 --> 00:02:05,970 Yeah. Johnny Gill. You know, there's a blast from the past. 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:06,690 Yeah. 35 00:02:09,030 --> 00:02:14,280 Yeah, very good. Dave. Got us. Yes. Got your band chops coming 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,760 through right now? Oh, yeah. Bad belting it out. Yes. 37 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:20,160 Anyway, so 38 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:25,950 also in the race was Donny Osmond. And yeah, wait for it. 39 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:29,370 So hurry, hurry. That was it. No. 40 00:02:31,170 --> 00:02:35,400 It was well timed. I admit. Our lion iKOU. One that year for the 41 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,060 second year in a row. As a Dutchman, I know him and so I 42 00:02:39,060 --> 00:02:41,340 was, you know, I was more in the pits and I could do a lot more 43 00:02:41,340 --> 00:02:44,460 stuff than then you typically think but also, I went out with 44 00:02:44,460 --> 00:02:48,930 Ari at night to walk the track. He said, Okay, watch us when you 45 00:02:48,930 --> 00:02:51,660 want to hit the apex. And as we're walking, you know, who we 46 00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:55,980 see on the track that at night like dusk, Donnie awesome. Oh, 47 00:02:56,010 --> 00:03:01,920 he's walking the track. And he won. He won by a mile. Donnie 48 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:06,390 Ozma. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was a great driver. He was so 49 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:07,380 serious to. 50 00:03:08,850 --> 00:03:16,890 Some people just have. So my, my wife is an artist. And she she 51 00:03:17,310 --> 00:03:21,510 would it would be the term be not shutters she she bristles? 52 00:03:21,540 --> 00:03:25,290 Yes. Okay, she bristles at the phrase. 53 00:03:26,730 --> 00:03:28,080 Oh, you're so talented. 54 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,810 She hates that. Because it makes art seem like it is just 55 00:03:33,810 --> 00:03:36,240 something that you're born with and that you didn't have to like 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,660 work. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:46,980 And so. But that being said, there are some things in life 58 00:03:47,010 --> 00:03:52,770 that are like born into a person and I think race, some pet 59 00:03:52,770 --> 00:03:56,010 somebody at the top of the race car game at the racing game. 60 00:03:56,430 --> 00:04:00,450 There's you, you can go you can get skill level up to this 61 00:04:00,450 --> 00:04:04,530 certain point. And then there has to be this, this thing that 62 00:04:04,530 --> 00:04:08,640 jumps you over that line this and it's like, a complete 63 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,760 recklessness, that you don't care about your own the safety 64 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,960 of your own body. There's something Yes. Yeah, well, Donny 65 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,980 Osmond man, he he was he was relentless. I was very nice guy 66 00:04:19,980 --> 00:04:21,270 to really nice guy. 67 00:04:22,650 --> 00:04:26,100 That's I mean, like, AC he's not dead. 68 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,660 Though he better not be. 69 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:33,330 Let's double check. 70 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:37,200 He's one of those guys. I don't I can't remember their age. Like 71 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,100 I never know how old they are. Let me see. I'm pretty sure he's 72 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,170 still he's still with us. I hope so. 73 00:04:44,670 --> 00:04:49,680 Let's Oh, he's born in 57 For now, okay. All right. 74 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:53,970 Do you remember any hit by the Osmond brothers? 75 00:04:56,250 --> 00:04:58,530 It's it's gonna be you're not old enough. I don't think you're 76 00:04:58,530 --> 00:04:59,970 old. No 77 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,260 No, no, no, it's it was I was probably like in the single 78 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,020 digits. When? Right Well, no, I was I wasn't much further behind 79 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,920 or ahead I should say let me see this was at the time. Yeah, I'm 80 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,170 of course. Are you kidding me? I'm gonna give you I'm gonna hit 81 00:05:16,170 --> 00:05:17,400 you right now brother. Here we go. 82 00:05:18,630 --> 00:05:20,550 This is a hit from Adams youth 83 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:24,810 This is not sounding familiar 84 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:31,950 bah bah bah Dum Dum Dum Dum Dum. Yeah, baby. Here's the Osmond 85 00:05:31,950 --> 00:05:34,500 brothers got crazy. Oh says 86 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:37,620 No. 87 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,930 None bring it back. 88 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:47,250 No, no, no, I'm not. I don't know. I got nothing on that. All 89 00:05:47,250 --> 00:05:51,330 right. It's a step above Bucks Fizz, really? But I was 90 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:55,290 listening to the extreme or more than words on the way home. 91 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Yeah, but but but. 92 00:05:58,110 --> 00:06:00,750 But the second album that extreme to lay. That was the 93 00:06:00,780 --> 00:06:01,440 that was the better? 94 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:05,910 Because that was the day of a hit off of that. Oh, yeah. They 95 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:12,450 stopped the world. Oh, yeah. Yep. All right, everybody. So 96 00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:15,570 much for your Oh, two old dudes talk about music from the 70s 97 00:06:15,570 --> 00:06:18,600 and 80s. That's a podcast concept we've been working on 98 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,070 for quite a while. I have all albums. What it makes me sad 99 00:06:23,070 --> 00:06:26,580 though. Because when I see these guys that you have, I remember 100 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:29,940 them as youthful and like, you know the stuff and then you see 101 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:33,810 him now that you're on a reunion tour something I'm like, oh, oh, 102 00:06:33,810 --> 00:06:38,190 no. That means I look like that. Yeah, this some people might 103 00:06:38,190 --> 00:06:41,400 have had that realization with this recent Spotify frock us 104 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:45,990 with Neil Young and people going like Neil Young Joni Mitchell. 105 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,390 Mm hmm. 106 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:51,960 Do we want to talk about that? Do we want to delve into it? 107 00:06:52,530 --> 00:06:56,610 Because No, the only is for just a little bit. I have some things 108 00:06:56,610 --> 00:07:00,930 to say. But go ahead. Well, I have some clips. Let's do clips. 109 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:06,060 Yes. They have nothing to do with with Ambani I don't know 110 00:07:06,060 --> 00:07:10,290 what you guess I'm just interested in in Spotify, his 111 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,940 position what they're doing in general. 112 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:17,220 And I'm more interested in the in the sociology of it. Because 113 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,300 not, you know, I'm tired of the whole freedom of speech thing. 114 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,930 I feel like we solve that issue. I'm not I'm just kind of not 115 00:07:24,930 --> 00:07:26,640 interested in that thing really anymore. 116 00:07:28,530 --> 00:07:33,150 But, so I tried to be all week whenever I would hear somebody 117 00:07:33,150 --> 00:07:36,990 say, let's talk about Dino. Because I was listening to you 118 00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:39,150 were on Tom Woods yesterday, I was listening or day before and 119 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:42,510 I was listening to your interview. And Tom said, I want 120 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:45,270 to get your opinion on Joe Rogan I click turned it off. I'm like, 121 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:48,450 I don't I don't want anybody else's opinion on what I tried 122 00:07:48,450 --> 00:07:51,480 to stay away from that. I'll wait and so I can formulate my 123 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,840 own thoughts. Oh, good. And then I can still give you my opinion 124 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,630 that they'll say when I gave on Tom woods and it'll be fresh. 125 00:07:58,110 --> 00:08:02,130 It'll be fresh and fresh opinion. Juicy. Okay, first out 126 00:08:02,130 --> 00:08:05,010 of the basket, give me give me someone sent me something from 127 00:08:05,010 --> 00:08:06,000 your oven Devi. 128 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,170 I think really and truly, 129 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:15,420 I think that this really all boils down to. Okay, so I think 130 00:08:16,380 --> 00:08:21,660 my angle on this is that I think Rogen and Whoopi Goldberg 131 00:08:23,070 --> 00:08:29,340 are sort of the same. They're playing the same script. I feel 132 00:08:29,340 --> 00:08:32,040 like they're going, I feel like okay, how would I say this 133 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:34,920 Whoopi Goldberg currently with what happened to her this past 134 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,020 week. And those are my clip my clips are Whoopi. 135 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:38,730 Okay. 136 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,900 I feel like she's at Rogen, stage one. 137 00:08:44,850 --> 00:08:47,460 So there is if 138 00:08:48,810 --> 00:08:54,360 Rogan went through like this, he's like phase one is just 139 00:08:54,390 --> 00:08:58,470 uncharitable coverage by the media. So they were you know, 140 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:58,950 saying, 141 00:09:00,030 --> 00:09:02,490 like he he didn't want to take the vaccine that was a sport, 142 00:09:02,490 --> 00:09:06,450 you know, personal thing. He said, If you want to do that, he 143 00:09:06,450 --> 00:09:09,750 felt like if you're young and healthy, you didn't need to take 144 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:10,320 the vaccine. 145 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:16,080 So then they triggered that just triggered the hell out of 146 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,710 everybody. And so they started coming, you know, all these 147 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:24,210 unfavorable things, you know, hey, you know, how, how dare he, 148 00:09:25,050 --> 00:09:27,540 you know, blah, blah, blah. And he's not even healthy. You know, 149 00:09:27,540 --> 00:09:29,670 people were showing pictures of him that made him look like a 150 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:30,360 fad. And 151 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:35,670 then, then he got COVID. 152 00:09:36,990 --> 00:09:40,800 And, and used me and all that stuff, one of which was 153 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,730 ivermectin. 154 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Then, in the in the mainstream, specifically, CNN started sort 155 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,120 of lying and saying that he was taking veterinary medicine and 156 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,350 all this kind of jazz. I feel like that his demo falls 157 00:09:56,580 --> 00:09:59,610 to the point where then he himself 158 00:10:00,299 --> 00:10:03,659 was going through, he sort of went into the second phase or 159 00:10:03,659 --> 00:10:06,359 the media went into the second stage with him, which was 160 00:10:06,749 --> 00:10:11,039 ostracizing and isolate, like isolating him trying to trying 161 00:10:11,039 --> 00:10:15,839 to build a wall around him as if he's so easy out on an island by 162 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:19,109 himself. It pissed him off so much. He started having Sanjay 163 00:10:19,109 --> 00:10:21,359 Gupta on and 164 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:28,530 and all they and then this that led to then, you know, CNN went 165 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:31,530 after him again saying that Gupta said he was scared for his 166 00:10:31,530 --> 00:10:34,740 life and all this kind of stuff on the show. And he's afraid 167 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:36,840 he's going to come over the desk and hit him and all this kind of 168 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,680 jazz. Well then, so he goes after that whole ivermectin 169 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:46,140 deal. Rogan just went into full blown. I'm gonna have as many 170 00:10:46,170 --> 00:10:50,850 opposing views on the show as I can. I'm gonna go Robert Malone, 171 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:54,240 Macola. Around Barrett's and Nick 172 00:10:57,090 --> 00:11:00,570 copia core, he just went through this, like this laundry list of 173 00:11:00,570 --> 00:11:01,350 anti 174 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:06,030 sort of anti establishment scientific thinkers. Which 175 00:11:06,030 --> 00:11:10,050 makalah is not and by the way, he's he's way he's not Yeah, are 176 00:11:10,290 --> 00:11:12,300 opposing views, I guess about MC, 177 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,850 se. I feel like this progress, I tried to just lay out and think 178 00:11:17,850 --> 00:11:22,920 through the progression of how we got from the beginning, which 179 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,300 was a guy like Rogan is a he's a liberal guy, he endorsed Bernie 180 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:29,430 Sanders for President a socialist. 181 00:11:32,070 --> 00:11:39,360 And how did we he had the media go from that to just to complete 182 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,110 discard needs to be cancelled? Whenever you're ready. 183 00:11:45,150 --> 00:11:48,390 I think so. My thought was 184 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:55,800 that did it's a it's a, it's a marriage between? Well, they 185 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,910 take him through these stages. And then he responds, because 186 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:06,450 they're not allowing him to just have a difference of opinion. 187 00:12:06,930 --> 00:12:10,800 They are being uncharitable in their, in their response to what 188 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,760 he says. 189 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:17,790 And I'm hoping to show a similar thing going on with Whoopi, but 190 00:12:17,790 --> 00:12:22,770 I think that as you isolate someone more and more, they 191 00:12:23,010 --> 00:12:28,890 begin to respond in kind. And the only way they know how to 192 00:12:28,890 --> 00:12:32,070 which is trying to defend themselves. I feel like you're 193 00:12:32,430 --> 00:12:37,170 sure I think that's correct. Like they they have in the media 194 00:12:37,170 --> 00:12:41,730 is very good at this, they lead people into almost a trap. But 195 00:12:41,730 --> 00:12:46,110 they lead people into saying things and doing things that 196 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:50,880 they can then capitalize on. So the only thing you're absolutely 197 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,770 right, the thing you've missed is why 198 00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:58,230 yes. Maybe I'll give you the why now and then you can show us how 199 00:12:58,230 --> 00:13:02,490 this is going to work with Whoopi Goldberg. Okay. The it 200 00:13:02,490 --> 00:13:05,490 took me a while to figure it out. But all I had to do was go 201 00:13:05,490 --> 00:13:10,650 back into the timeline and look at the history. When Rogan Rogan 202 00:13:10,650 --> 00:13:13,290 was always a problem when he when he started to make $100 203 00:13:13,290 --> 00:13:17,400 million. Then from time to time the mainstream news cable news, 204 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,720 but mainstream would make a joke about oh, this podcaster Oh, 205 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,540 he's a misogynist. Oh, he's a racist, you know that that's it 206 00:13:24,540 --> 00:13:28,140 wasn't much more than that the extent was kind of, then he had 207 00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:31,680 Abigail Schreier, on who wrote a book, which countered the 208 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:35,220 narrative of transgender children, which had been passed 209 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:39,720 up by many podcasters, including Adam Carolla. Then he became a 210 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,260 transphobes. Then the woke crowd was activated, particularly at 211 00:13:43,260 --> 00:13:46,920 Spotify, because they have a trans community there and so 212 00:13:46,950 --> 00:13:50,670 that they had problems that's still all within the purview, 213 00:13:50,670 --> 00:13:55,380 what the company is going to do with Rogan, etc. But his problem 214 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:59,640 started, as you correctly identify, when he started 215 00:14:00,210 --> 00:14:03,870 convincing people just because of his audience size, he's going 216 00:14:03,870 --> 00:14:06,000 to convince more than the mainstream and certainly the 217 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,310 mainstream cable news to not buy the products that the mainstream 218 00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:15,060 pharmaceutical companies are selling. And they are the 219 00:14:15,060 --> 00:14:17,940 biggest advertiser on television, certainly one of the 220 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:21,840 big ones for cable news, and they activated their stooges and 221 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,410 that's when all of that that's because CNN was so obvious when 222 00:14:25,410 --> 00:14:28,530 they started saying Rogan's eating horse dewormers he was 223 00:14:28,530 --> 00:14:32,940 lying. And Sanjay Gupta. That's why Rogen had him come in what 224 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:36,180 what are you doing and Rogue? Sanjay Gupta from CNN, the 225 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:39,060 doctor could not answer that question why they were lying. 226 00:14:39,690 --> 00:14:45,450 But it unless Joe stops talking about pharmaceutical products 227 00:14:45,450 --> 00:14:50,010 that compete with Big Pharma or not using them kissed problems 228 00:14:50,010 --> 00:14:53,100 will continue. These companies do not give a shit. They will 229 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:56,790 kill people over this. They're doing 100 billion dollars a year 230 00:14:56,790 --> 00:15:00,000 in revenue. They don't care what they have to do that 231 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,050 What took place here? 232 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:07,290 That? I don't I don't just I don't deny that at all. I don't 233 00:15:07,290 --> 00:15:10,920 deny that the pharmaceutical influence in the mainstream 234 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,550 media had has a definite definite impact on this. 235 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,720 It's add to that add to that day. They cannot understand why 236 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,020 Joe Rogan has 11 million people in his audience, whether that's 237 00:15:25,020 --> 00:15:27,570 a true number or not, doesn't matter. The perception is there 238 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,810 that they can't believe they have. They have. CNN has an 239 00:15:30,810 --> 00:15:34,440 average of 700,000. at every given moment. No one has those 240 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,670 numbers. This is this. They really want him to go away. He's 241 00:15:38,670 --> 00:15:42,540 a he's an embarrassment to the mainstream. He's an idiot. He 242 00:15:42,540 --> 00:15:45,960 even admits it. He's a moron. He can't he all he does is talk. 243 00:15:46,110 --> 00:15:47,580 He's not he just wings it. 244 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,810 This is this is the complaints the mainstream has. So that's a 245 00:15:51,810 --> 00:15:52,590 perfect storm. 246 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,050 Yeah, well, that's see what bothers me, I guess is that 247 00:15:58,110 --> 00:16:02,970 that's that's the case now. But what what the what was it at 248 00:16:02,970 --> 00:16:05,010 the, you know, the beginning, I think that I forgot about the 249 00:16:05,010 --> 00:16:08,460 Abigail Schreier thing. And this, this, that was really the 250 00:16:08,490 --> 00:16:11,040 that was really the beginning. I do think you're right. Yeah, I 251 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,160 think that was the beginning. And that, that is the part where 252 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,980 I feel that's what I meant when I said, Okay, what B is it, 253 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Rogen, stage one, I think it's instructive. If you find 254 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,670 somebody who's in a parent, who's in sort of a parallel 255 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:28,710 stage, that you can then look and see, oh, this is how it 256 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:29,580 begins. 257 00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:36,120 Because what he is not at the point, at this later stage that 258 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,260 Rogan, the cancel stage that Rogan is now she's still at the 259 00:16:40,260 --> 00:16:42,810 be at the beginning. Now she tried as hard as she could to 260 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:48,360 get herself cancelled with me, like the. So I'll say what play. 261 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:51,870 And I'll miss set this up by saying that 262 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,330 I think Whoopi, 263 00:16:56,250 --> 00:16:57,000 she, 264 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:03,570 she, it's interesting to me that she got cancelled because of her 265 00:17:03,570 --> 00:17:08,250 appearance on CO bear, not for the thing that she said 266 00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:11,850 initially, like, that's what got her suspended was the Colbert 267 00:17:11,850 --> 00:17:15,870 interview, not the original thing that she did. And she 268 00:17:15,870 --> 00:17:21,300 said, on the view, or whatever it was, and, and this would be 269 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:25,890 called bear clip one that is sort of the beginning of the, of 270 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,990 what actually got her cancelled. 271 00:17:29,010 --> 00:17:33,900 Because I've I feel being black. When we talk about race, it's a 272 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:37,710 very different thing to me. So I said that I felt that the 273 00:17:37,710 --> 00:17:40,230 Holocaust wasn't about race. 274 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:45,480 And people got very, very, very angry and still are angry. I 275 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,680 mean, I'm getting, you know, all of these, the mail from folks 276 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,690 and the very real anger, because people feel very differently. 277 00:17:55,380 --> 00:18:01,560 But I thought it was a salient discussion. Because as a black 278 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,420 person, I think of race as being something that I can see. So I 279 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:09,780 see you, and I know what race you are. And 280 00:18:12,570 --> 00:18:16,110 believe me, black people are going will be shut up. 281 00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:23,910 So it's really clear what she's saying, if you look at her 282 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:27,720 statement charitably. And this is kind of what I'm trying to 283 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,700 get at with this whole thing. And what I've been thinking 284 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:34,350 about this week is, This all begins with it with with taking 285 00:18:34,350 --> 00:18:35,160 somebody 286 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:40,680 taking somebody's words, uncharitably as if they are 287 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:42,180 something 288 00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:45,300 bad, negative. 289 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Gross, you're, you're you're putting them in, you're putting 290 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,610 them in a box of negativity. And as soon as you do that, it 291 00:18:56,610 --> 00:19:01,770 creates this schism. And so in this case, it's really obvious 292 00:19:01,770 --> 00:19:05,550 what the issue is with, with with with Whoopi and what she's 293 00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:14,100 saying. She, she cannot divorce her mind of the idea that race 294 00:19:14,130 --> 00:19:18,030 is synonymous with skin color. And she even says it multiple 295 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:21,630 times. That really is the issues you have, but you got this. 296 00:19:21,630 --> 00:19:26,610 There's more at play here. Dave. There is a very, very, very long 297 00:19:26,610 --> 00:19:32,220 standing unspoken feud between a DOS let's just say black 298 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:35,310 Americans, Americans, descendants of slavery and 299 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:36,720 Jewish Americans, 300 00:19:37,770 --> 00:19:43,260 particularly in show business. You will never hear Hotep Jesus, 301 00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:47,070 because I've talked to him about this ever criticize anyone who's 302 00:19:47,070 --> 00:19:49,440 Jewish because he knows that's the end of his career. 303 00:19:50,790 --> 00:19:54,360 We'll see that's that's in there. Again, I don't I don't 304 00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:58,350 know. But I do. And I'm saying this as as much about the people 305 00:19:58,350 --> 00:20:00,000 who canceled as it does 306 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,480 About the canceled. Yeah. Well, what I was gonna say, though, is 307 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,440 I don't? I don't? I don't I think this transcends the reason 308 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,070 why, like this is that this isn't the Y factor that I'm 309 00:20:11,070 --> 00:20:17,340 talking about this is the this is the mechanism, not, not the Y 310 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:21,840 that causes the mechanism to be employed the mechanism, because 311 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,350 you can, you can see, the play 312 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,340 would be called bear to you'll see what I'm saying because she, 313 00:20:29,670 --> 00:20:35,490 she, she is genuinely confused about what is about the problem 314 00:20:35,490 --> 00:20:40,740 here. You know, I don't want to fake apologize, you know, I was 315 00:20:40,770 --> 00:20:46,020 I very upset that people are misunderstood what I was saying. 316 00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:50,340 And so because of it, they're saying that I'm anti semitic, 317 00:20:50,370 --> 00:20:55,380 and that I'm denying the Holocaust and all these other 318 00:20:55,380 --> 00:21:01,200 things, which, you know, would never occurred to me to do. And 319 00:21:01,230 --> 00:21:04,920 I was talking to our friend the woke Jewish school teacher 320 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,560 public school in Austin, the one who the dog bit because our dog 321 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,210 only bites woke people. And I was talking to her about this. 322 00:21:12,570 --> 00:21:16,530 And I said, you know, Allison has got to know, it's really 323 00:21:16,530 --> 00:21:21,780 only been maybe four or five years that I myself. And I've 324 00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,520 worked with many Jews 325 00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:27,840 understood that they do not consider themselves to be white. 326 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:32,190 And Dvorak, even a few years ago, I was like, I was talking 327 00:21:32,190 --> 00:21:35,880 to her what she says, No, I'm not white. I'm a Jew. Yeah, this 328 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,910 is also not a known things. I think she got totally screwed by 329 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:43,530 this. I totally agree. Yeah, but it's yeah, it's really subtle. 330 00:21:43,530 --> 00:21:48,090 It Yes, she got sideswiped. It's really ignorance of a lot of 331 00:21:48,090 --> 00:21:52,380 people. Certainly the outraged public. They really, you know, 332 00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:56,130 whenever you get to the Nazi thing, it's game over, people's 333 00:21:56,130 --> 00:21:59,580 eyes roll up in their head, and they can't think straight. I 334 00:21:59,580 --> 00:22:04,740 thought this was in, you can, you can just, you know, pop me 335 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:07,620 upside the head for reading a YouTube comment. 336 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:12,600 Ever. But I thought this was a really, this was a really good, 337 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:14,220 I thought was very succinct. 338 00:22:16,170 --> 00:22:18,870 This person said Whoopi Goldberg understands racism from an 339 00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:22,620 American perspective, particularly as an American 340 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:26,220 black woman, that understanding and experience of racism is 341 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:28,740 wrapped up with the experience of living in America, 342 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:32,790 experiencing racism in America, and the history of racism in 343 00:22:32,790 --> 00:22:36,690 America. And because she is so centered on that particular 344 00:22:36,690 --> 00:22:40,020 understanding, she doesn't understand how racism manifests 345 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:43,230 in other places. How does experience but other people and 346 00:22:43,230 --> 00:22:45,390 how the histories and cultures of other countries have shaped 347 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:49,740 racism in those places? I think that's right. It was simply Yes, 348 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:55,410 it is. Absolutely. It is. Absolutely right. And, and since 349 00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:58,590 we're on it, I'm not going to play the clip. But I dove into 350 00:22:58,590 --> 00:22:59,370 this pretty deep. 351 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:06,060 They they think the comparison of how Jews in Germany were 352 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:10,650 treated, versus how unvaccinated are being treated in many 353 00:23:10,650 --> 00:23:14,760 countries. They think that is an outrageous comparison. So again, 354 00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:18,240 it just shows the complete ignorance. I grew up in 355 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,630 Amsterdam. So I was fortunate I got a real education in the 356 00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:24,060 Holocaust. My friend's grandparents had numbers in 357 00:23:24,060 --> 00:23:28,590 their arms. You know, so I heard some stories. And it's just 358 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:32,250 ignorance. And the whole thing is that the whole thing is now 359 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:36,180 just centered around woke left, right, Twitter's the same thing. 360 00:23:36,420 --> 00:23:40,590 This is just remnants of, of stuff that keeps people busy 361 00:23:40,590 --> 00:23:42,840 and, and keeps podcasts filled, 362 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:47,790 unfortunately. And that's really what I kind of wanted to get at 363 00:23:47,790 --> 00:23:51,360 was that by comparing these two things, these are 364 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,630 two people that seemingly were targeted, meaning I don't know 365 00:23:57,630 --> 00:23:59,820 what the right word is to use. It's not the right word I want 366 00:23:59,820 --> 00:24:03,120 to use but seemingly, they triggered the hell out of 367 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:09,150 people. And the mechanism is that they, they now feel 368 00:24:09,180 --> 00:24:15,450 ostracized, and confused. You can listen to that Instagram 369 00:24:15,450 --> 00:24:19,800 video of Rogan. And I mean, there's sort of a genuine 370 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,160 confusion there of like, I don't I just don't understand why. 371 00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:25,650 Yes, because he's freaking out on me. 372 00:24:26,730 --> 00:24:32,280 Because we live in a culture where we are taught that if you 373 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,400 have a problem, there's a middle manager you can go to and 374 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,910 complain and they'll take care of it for you. I don't like what 375 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:41,940 he said me and Spotify, take care of it. I my neighbor's 376 00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:44,160 music is too loud. I'm calling the cops. 377 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:48,090 This is this is the the world we live in. Now. Luckily. 378 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:52,470 We came at the right time. Dave Jones. I think you and I are 379 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:58,620 geniuses. I don't disagree. Holy crap, a doli. This is 380 00:24:58,650 --> 00:25:00,000 unbelievable that we 381 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,050 started this project in time for this tsunami of bullcrap. 382 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:06,659 And 383 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:10,740 I'm really proud of the work that everybody has done when I 384 00:25:10,740 --> 00:25:14,250 can go on Tom woods. And I was I think I was able to what did you 385 00:25:14,250 --> 00:25:18,300 think of my, tell me what plot podcasting. 2.0 is, as a seven 386 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:25,830 year old, thought it was JT I think you owned the the role of 387 00:25:26,610 --> 00:25:31,650 like explainer in that, that maybe you You seem to have honed 388 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:35,430 your, your, your, your message that really that was the first 389 00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:39,450 time I thought it was real, like 16 Thank you, because I worked 390 00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:43,560 on this and and be and it was because this very intellectual 391 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,070 man much more intellectual than I am. Asked me to explain 392 00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:51,390 podcasting 2.0 As if he was a seven year old, which is 393 00:25:51,390 --> 00:25:54,180 typically a question I block someone if they say that. 394 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,320 It's like, Get out of here. This is so this like play like I'm 395 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,230 five thing? Yes, exactly. Explain like, I'm fine playing. 396 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:06,390 So when I told him that, and I said but and so I said if I was 397 00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:09,120 going to tell a seven year old, which may be the the literacy 398 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:09,960 level of many. 399 00:26:11,250 --> 00:26:14,010 Here's what I would say podcasting. 2.0 Make sure you 400 00:26:14,010 --> 00:26:16,410 can never get a race never D platformed you're always 401 00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:20,790 available. Podcasting. 2.0 gives you protection from privacy, 402 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:25,980 podcasting 2.0 updates, your favorite podcast in less than 60 403 00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:28,650 seconds from the moment your favorite podcast publishes 404 00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:32,970 over 15 new features, including chapters with images and links, 405 00:26:32,970 --> 00:26:36,450 transcripts, multiple formats, caption searchable sound bite 406 00:26:36,450 --> 00:26:40,170 was a trailer search by person location seasons, live stream 407 00:26:40,170 --> 00:26:45,240 notification, integration, cross app comments on the way and 408 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,720 built in streaming payment system to support your favorite 409 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,070 podcast in real time with micropayments. Boom. 410 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:58,020 That was I mean, you you hit every everything. You hit every 411 00:26:58,020 --> 00:27:00,510 highlight and you didn't get to, like you didn't get technical. 412 00:27:00,510 --> 00:27:03,810 You didn't say it doesn't bow by doing this or blah blah, blah, 413 00:27:03,810 --> 00:27:07,560 you just right. This is it. This is it. Right? Yeah. And then and 414 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,000 so when I do that, I think Holy crap. Could everybody please 415 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,810 stop what they're doing just for a second? And pat yourself on 416 00:27:15,810 --> 00:27:20,550 the back? Yeah, look at what we have accomplished. And not you 417 00:27:20,550 --> 00:27:23,190 and I Dave but the whole podcasting 2.0 movement. 418 00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:26,580 Unfortunately, you have to code it all. But that's just a 419 00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:27,540 secondary thing. 420 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,080 minor, minor, minor minor point of privilege. Yeah, but that 421 00:27:35,310 --> 00:27:38,670 I've noticed the other people, other people are now starting to 422 00:27:38,670 --> 00:27:42,000 code more, which is really great to see. Yep. And we're seeing 423 00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:43,260 I'm seeing the uptake. 424 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Every day, there's another conversation about de Plata and 425 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,180 Spotify really did take a lot of I don't they they did not go and 426 00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:53,760 take down individual episodes except to Rogan, I think they 427 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,530 just took another 50 or so down. That were recently Yeah, today 428 00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:01,110 that we're in this oh, you know, they're cleaning house because 429 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,160 there's always pirated feeds have no agenda on Spotify. And 430 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,340 we've we've threatened legal action, you know, Dick's 431 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,110 when they first launched, we were on there, and I and I went 432 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:15,540 through the whole copyright claim bull crap. And I said, 433 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:19,020 Look, I'm getting really tired of me having to tell you to stop 434 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:21,600 stealing my shit. I'm gonna I'm gonna do something about this. 435 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,110 And then they woke up, they took it away. Someone else put it up. 436 00:28:25,740 --> 00:28:28,380 I had many reports of people getting ads, so someone was 437 00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:31,110 maybe even making money on it. And certainly Spotify 438 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:38,100 made baby yeah. And in two days ago, I got the Hey, man, your 439 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:42,420 podcast is gone from Spotify. So they are indeed deleting stuff. 440 00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,420 And they certainly have by their standards reason to delete no 441 00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:50,040 agenda. So I will let me jump in real quick and say I think 442 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,760 anchor we've been talking about anchor for a while now. And my 443 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,950 thesis has been that they don't care about anchor and put 444 00:28:58,950 --> 00:29:04,710 probably rather see it go away. And I I think that this is 445 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:09,060 anchor as a liability for them. I don't see how they get 446 00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:11,160 anything of Tell me. 447 00:29:12,270 --> 00:29:17,340 One benefit they get from Anker. I think there were sold a bill 448 00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:21,690 of goods. Maybe you know, we're just like clubhouse or whatever, 449 00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:25,830 or you know, there's pre clubhouse but I don't know it's 450 00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:27,840 crap. Do this piece of shit. 451 00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:32,940 Every everybody knows it. But But, but Spotify is actively 452 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:35,490 taking down podcasts that they don't agree with. 453 00:29:36,540 --> 00:29:39,750 And that's and that's all you need to know. And I love sam se 454 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:43,080 suggestion of calling Spotify and Apple legacy apps because 455 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,770 they are they are legacy apps. 456 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,370 Yeah, I think the this this kind of is funny to be in that 457 00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:56,250 position where it was so important at the beginning to 458 00:29:56,250 --> 00:30:00,000 try to decentralize things so that they were 459 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,380 be no, like, point of takedown or whatever. And now 460 00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:09,810 as I just consider that assault problem, really, that's exactly 461 00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:13,230 what That's Tom, the next thing Tom Woods said was, so what do I 462 00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:16,200 do? I say, Well, this is the good thing we've already taken 463 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,830 care of number one for you get that free from us. You cannot be 464 00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:23,040 taken down free. I said that it's free. It's already done, 465 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,970 you cannot be taken down. You are always available through any 466 00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:29,130 of the apps that support podcast index, 467 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,780 which of course is subjective because it is not even. Go 468 00:30:33,780 --> 00:30:37,860 ahead. Yeah. I was gonna say is that part is not even the API 469 00:30:37,890 --> 00:30:42,840 because the API. If I tried to just conceptually do that, I 470 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,530 think you did this conceptually better than I did. I have been 471 00:30:46,530 --> 00:30:52,170 able to, I tried to split the difference between the index and 472 00:30:52,170 --> 00:30:55,980 the API, because they're not the same. Because you can say, well, 473 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,560 well, you didn't, you know, you didn't change anything. Now, the 474 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,590 podcast index.org. That's that the API is just a single point 475 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:05,400 of failure. Yeah, but the index is not correct you you can 476 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,920 download the index. Yep. And just run it yourself. Or you can 477 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,030 just put a little listener on pod ping. And just get the whole 478 00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:19,560 index eventually for free. Yeah, just just record what comes 479 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,910 through. Yeah, this is what I love about pod pig. It's gene 480 00:31:23,910 --> 00:31:26,670 It's a monster. Yeah. I like 481 00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:30,360 Chris Fisher's district description of it. 482 00:31:31,380 --> 00:31:36,210 Is a distributed message bus of podcasting. Yeah, which which 483 00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:39,210 Brian of London I wouldn't take it too far. You have not created 484 00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:41,850 a great messaging system because it's not a great messaging 485 00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:46,080 system is not it's it's very good at what it does. And the 486 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,560 capabilities of pod ping are astronomical, but not as a 487 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,820 messaging system. And Brian was mad at me dude. Y'all did all 488 00:31:53,820 --> 00:31:57,720 the all the hype. People were pissed at me. Yes. Oh, my God, I 489 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,160 made it. Alright, put my foot in my mouth. Kind of what show? No 490 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,960 on Twitter? Oh, would you cast a cast? Oh, s castaways. custos 491 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,920 castaways, I forget this Casa dos costos they announced that 492 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,460 they're doing value value blocks in their in their interface in 493 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:17,700 their feed. And so I go on Twitter Holy crap. Look at this 494 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,300 value for value Baba, first one's ever and I immediately get 495 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:27,030 this whole hive of hate. Hate to hate three speakers before this. 496 00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:30,660 Switch. I said 497 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:34,950 your rights and apologies. I really apologize. But you know, 498 00:32:34,980 --> 00:32:38,550 there's only one guy from hi from floats around. Our 499 00:32:38,550 --> 00:32:41,820 university seems to be doing everything he represents all of 500 00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:44,910 hide. Where's everybody else helping me remember what to say? 501 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,170 Oh, by the way, where's all the shit coin developers eath. 502 00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,780 Another another 503 00:32:53,580 --> 00:32:57,810 another thing to tell to toss into? That is? Yeah, three 504 00:32:57,810 --> 00:33:01,140 speak? Sure. Sure. Yes, they were the first but they're not a 505 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,100 podcast host go see. But I wasn't even going to get into 506 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:09,180 that. I thought it was in general. I felt dudes, if you 507 00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:12,150 want to utilize me fucked up way to go about it. 508 00:33:13,410 --> 00:33:16,350 Yeah, I mean, that was good. On my good side. Yeah. I mean, you 509 00:33:16,350 --> 00:33:19,110 know, and I said, Hey, you know, and you know, someone's like, 510 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,590 who is a Bitcoin Maxy. So he doesn't give a shit about that. 511 00:33:23,070 --> 00:33:26,730 And so I'm like, okay, look, we can live side by side. And we 512 00:33:26,730 --> 00:33:30,090 can live side by side. And this. No problem whatsoever. This is 513 00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:32,970 about podcasting. I don't care how people use it or what they 514 00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:35,940 use. I'm happy that they using it. I'm very proud of the work 515 00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:38,820 that Brian London and Alice gates have done and a cast of 516 00:33:38,820 --> 00:33:44,400 1000s. But come on, chill out a little bit. If you want me to 517 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,340 promote something, this is not the way to do it. 518 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,240 I forked this debate and Satoshi stream repo repos, forked those 519 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,340 over into the podcast index, GitHub organization. I've been 520 00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:05,280 meaning to do that for a while. So Toshi st here, Satoshi 521 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,730 stream. Well, I mean, it's not I don't think it's not their 522 00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:12,000 source code, but it's the TLV register. Oh, yes. The one that 523 00:34:12,030 --> 00:34:18,480 is the BIP blip. Yeah, yet. There's little blip, blip, blip 524 00:34:18,630 --> 00:34:19,110 blip 10 525 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,810 So that has been on my to do list I've been trying to go back 526 00:34:24,810 --> 00:34:28,110 and get some of these things done that I've been not able to 527 00:34:28,110 --> 00:34:28,650 do. 528 00:34:29,910 --> 00:34:32,880 So people can find all the jingles and all that because Oh 529 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,210 good. Yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea now but you 530 00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:39,930 forked it so that means I have to change my link. No, no, no, I 531 00:34:39,930 --> 00:34:43,140 mean, the old ones still still work. I just it's now just 532 00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:47,820 there's a copy that in our org that tracks the tracks that repo 533 00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:50,250 so everything you don't change anything. Okay, so is that how 534 00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:53,550 GitHub works? But when you fork does not then you're you've 535 00:34:53,550 --> 00:34:56,070 separated right doesn't get the updates from the original. 536 00:34:57,570 --> 00:34:59,940 Well, yeah, it does. It went to when I 537 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,609 I just had to go in there updated periodically. I'll just 538 00:35:02,609 --> 00:35:06,119 pull fresh. Okay, okay. Okay, good. Oh, that's good. It's an 539 00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:07,889 alias. Yeah, it is. 540 00:35:08,970 --> 00:35:11,640 Yeah, but I'm trying to catch up on some of this stuff like 541 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Benjamin Bellamy's booster grant MiCon 542 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:19,920 pansy that No, I did not see a booster gram icon where it was 543 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,970 this podcast. Fantastic. Yeah, it looks fantastic. It looks 544 00:35:23,970 --> 00:35:24,570 like a 545 00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:28,650 it looks like a comic. 546 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:34,890 Like word balloon. But but with the lightning bolt as the 547 00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:36,000 integral part of it. 548 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,450 It's hard to explain awesome I'm looking at is 549 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:47,880 see this green icon? Let's see if the oh, there it is. And you 550 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,430 search on the podcast index social search just search for 551 00:35:50,430 --> 00:35:52,650 booster gram icon. It's like the first thing that pops up. 552 00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:57,810 And it looks really slick. I don't know how to get this into 553 00:35:57,810 --> 00:35:58,530 stuff though. 554 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,500 But I don't 555 00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:05,250 give on it. No booster gram icon. 556 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,410 Let me 557 00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:11,400 let me signal it's weird. I'll maybe if I load more. Hold on a 558 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,920 second. I got a lot of booster gram stuff. Yeah. No, see. I 559 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,630 made that September 21. Man. 560 00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:20,730 Booster gram. 561 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,190 telling it to you. Oh, I've been requested to mention from the 562 00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:30,810 progenitor of booster gram. That it is indeed booster gram. It is 563 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:34,950 BOSTAG ra M No hyphens? 564 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:39,870 That's right. Yes. No hyphens in booster and it's also not 565 00:36:39,870 --> 00:36:42,930 booster gram. No, it's not booster gram either. No. 566 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:48,240 Well, this is interesting. Did you get it? Yeah, I'm looking at 567 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,670 it right now. I'm going to put it in the show notes. It's 568 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:53,490 pretty slick looking in it. This is from the font. This is from 569 00:36:53,490 --> 00:36:57,240 the booster gram font. Yes. From the podcast font and it's got a 570 00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,790 podcast font. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's 571 00:36:59,790 --> 00:37:03,150 like a lightning bolt. But in the shape of a word balloon, 572 00:37:03,150 --> 00:37:06,690 like a message like a booster. Yeah. That is I just thought 573 00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:10,230 that was really cool. Which one to mention. I like it a lot. The 574 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:13,500 yellow throws me off, but that's just me. I have called one 575 00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,890 widget. I think he tweaked that color for 576 00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:21,270 fountain because it fits their color scheme. Okay, that's the I 577 00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:23,430 don't think it's you can color it any way you want. Because 578 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:26,100 it's a font. Like a CSS, right? Okay. 579 00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:30,870 I Bellamy man he's doing stuff. Have you tried out to cache the 580 00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:31,380 pod yet? 581 00:37:32,670 --> 00:37:40,680 Yeah, that's I built that. That sandbox feed for the this film's 582 00:37:41,310 --> 00:37:43,410 workshop. Right, right. We haven't tried but you haven't 583 00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:45,750 tried the import function yet? Which was the one reason we 584 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:48,930 weren't using it. Blog? Why don't we try it live? Let's do 585 00:37:48,930 --> 00:37:49,530 it live. 586 00:37:51,210 --> 00:37:53,640 Wow, walking on the tightrope, Dave Jones. 587 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:59,670 See? See, I guess. Because that was the main thing is we just 588 00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:03,270 couldn't. I mean, it was nothing for me to configure. Anyway, now 589 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:06,090 that I've understood a little bit more thanks, Alex gates, 590 00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:09,870 about the true nature of you know, obviously activity Pub is 591 00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:14,550 a big part of, you know, the whole system. And that's not 592 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:16,260 gonna work simply 593 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:21,750 on the Umbral, you will have to punch holes in the firewall and 594 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:25,200 get some real IPS going, I guess, which, of course, is I 595 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,900 understand from a security standpoint, not a great idea if 596 00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:29,880 you have your node on the same machine? 597 00:38:31,260 --> 00:38:34,590 Well, I'm not. I'm not worried about it, either. But, you know, 598 00:38:34,620 --> 00:38:39,270 I understand the Umbral has had some security issues in general, 599 00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:42,180 that we just have to just you forget stuff, you know, like, 600 00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:44,670 oh, yeah, this is great. And then you know, that's wide open. 601 00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:49,050 Oops. Yeah. And that's it shut up. Put. That's a question. 602 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:52,620 Should I put a password on the on Hello pad? 603 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:57,510 And then just in case? Well, I'd rather I'd prefer to have it on 604 00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:59,340 tour before that was the question. 605 00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:03,060 I'd love I love just to access it outside the house. 606 00:39:04,290 --> 00:39:09,690 Can you not? I don't think it runs over tour. I saw somebody 607 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,430 had it configured on tour because I saw somebody posted 608 00:39:14,430 --> 00:39:18,390 some posted a screenshot of a pad and it had a tour address in 609 00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:18,600 it. 610 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,310 Hmm, maybe that's just something they did. So yeah, I don't know 611 00:39:23,310 --> 00:39:25,830 if you can. I think you have to configure that somehow. 612 00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:28,410 Mm hmm. 613 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,090 I don't know. 614 00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:36,120 Yeah, minor details, my friend. Thank you for the Excel export 615 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:40,260 on heli pad our booster gram monitoring system app, I say, 616 00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:45,180 Oh, my goodness. Ah, that's a lot of fun. I got a lot of data. 617 00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:49,050 I have four different shows. You know, I'd love that it has the, 618 00:39:49,110 --> 00:39:51,570 you know, the actual them could only get like a percentage for 619 00:39:51,570 --> 00:39:54,900 most of them just for monitoring purposes. But you can see the 620 00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,920 total amount you can do charts and graphs and pivot tables. 621 00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:00,000 It's really 622 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,770 fought Yeah, pivot table. Whoa, look at this shit. Oh man. It's 623 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:08,490 really exciting. It's exciting, man. It's really exciting. We 624 00:40:08,490 --> 00:40:12,480 still have a lot of apps kind of sending data in a manky way. I 625 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,710 mean, usernames, people. Um, I guess people just kind of figure 626 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:19,380 that their name shows up if they're sending a message, which 627 00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:23,460 it doesn't for many. Oh, yeah. Like if they're coming from 628 00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:28,560 breeze especially breeze. Yeah, and fountain I think is 629 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,640 usernames. 630 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,380 Yeah. Fountain still allows the sub sub par level booster grams 631 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:38,610 to come through which is funny. 632 00:40:39,810 --> 00:40:43,140 What do you mean? Like, like a low amount? Yeah, like once at 633 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,960 once a head? Yeah, cuz, you know, they've got a few of those 634 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,310 today. The the studio door is usually is open as it's on the 635 00:40:50,310 --> 00:40:54,600 other side of the house, but I have the I have the Umbral sound 636 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:58,350 cranked up till we hit like pew pew like oh, okay, let's go 637 00:40:58,350 --> 00:41:00,330 check. Six SATs. 638 00:41:01,710 --> 00:41:05,610 Tim, Tim from Ellen pay Tim K from Ellen pay. Yeah, but the 639 00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:08,790 emojis work. Thanks, Tim. Thanks. I came all the way over 640 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:10,050 here to see my winnings. 641 00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:16,410 But I was delighted to hear James on pod land. Talk about 642 00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:21,450 how you pitch value for value in your podcast, which is not pay 643 00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:25,800 tip me. But you know the concept of value. I was very happy to 644 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,610 hear him do that. 645 00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:30,240 And I have not listened to that on yesterday's show. Have you 646 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,010 seen Yes. Listen to the new one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and listen to 647 00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:39,420 yet because if you if you say I want to tip you'll get 15% 20 be 648 00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:43,920 20. To say value for value, you can get a very different result. 649 00:41:44,850 --> 00:41:46,500 Yeah, I think that that's a 650 00:41:48,060 --> 00:41:51,480 that's something that you also did on Tom Woods show, which I 651 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,830 think was really important is you went through the whole value 652 00:41:55,830 --> 00:41:59,550 for value concept, because it's got, what I see a lot of people 653 00:41:59,550 --> 00:42:00,510 doing is 654 00:42:01,770 --> 00:42:06,570 they turn it on and say where's my money? Yeah, exactly. They 655 00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:11,070 turn to enable, they enable value for value in the value 656 00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:15,390 blog. And maybe they have even have an Umbral, or something 657 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:18,390 like that. And then they never actually tell their listeners 658 00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:23,130 they have it or to go to new podcast apps.com. That's yeah, 659 00:42:23,130 --> 00:42:27,690 that's all that's the minimum. Say, are you on a legacy app? 660 00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:31,320 Well, if they cancel me, I won't be here. Would you like to know 661 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,140 when my show was updated right away instead of waiting three 662 00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:38,250 hours for Apple to get off its ass? Maybe even 30 minutes? Who 663 00:42:38,250 --> 00:42:42,960 cares? Speaking of speaking of putting 664 00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:49,230 up so I've been Oh, I was working out with the gas from 665 00:42:49,230 --> 00:42:57,000 blueberry. How to do pod paying for power press? Because, you 666 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,720 know, that's the issue there and cast cast us is going to have 667 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,730 the same issue. Because Castillo's has WordPress simple. 668 00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:09,960 Yeah. The plugins like super simple podcasting, I think is 669 00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:15,810 a thing. So seriously simple, seriously simple podcasting 670 00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:20,370 plugin. And he was getting. So PowerPress is seriously simple. 671 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,920 allow you to have their to host your own podcast on your own 672 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,300 server, but then you just host it up up on casters or 673 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:35,040 blueberry. And so I was working out with the blueberry guys on 674 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,070 how on how to allow that is what we came up with. was in I talked 675 00:43:41,070 --> 00:43:44,820 to Brian and Alex about this how to allow what Dave I'm sorry. 676 00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:48,120 How to allow a 677 00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:53,580 word random WordPress blog to hit pod ping to hit pod ping in 678 00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:57,360 a safe way. Yeah, yes. in a safe way for us. You mean for us? 679 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,020 Yeah. So what I was thinking about is, you know, there's 680 00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:03,330 really this is really not an issue of 681 00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:06,810 it's not an issue. 682 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:12,630 Your only attack vector is a is a do is like some sort of denial 683 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:14,610 of service. Yeah. 684 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:22,290 You know, if somebody were to just get a key and hit you with, 685 00:44:22,290 --> 00:44:22,620 like, 686 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,230 25,000 pod pings in three seconds. I don't know. Well, I 687 00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:32,400 mean, the issue that having a key or not having a key doesn't 688 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:39,000 really stop that. The the authorization token for pod ping 689 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:43,020 is not really. I mean, that's weak security. I mean, it's the 690 00:44:43,020 --> 00:44:47,040 same with the AP with our API. I mean, anyone can DDoS the API, I 691 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,310 guess, under the same circumstances. Yeah. I mean, 692 00:44:50,310 --> 00:44:53,010 anybody can get a denial service attack is not going to be 693 00:44:53,010 --> 00:44:56,940 stopped by an authorization No, you just don't want shit data 694 00:44:56,940 --> 00:44:59,850 getting in? Yeah. So 695 00:45:00,810 --> 00:45:04,950 and all. So what we came up with was 696 00:45:06,690 --> 00:45:09,930 the DDoS, the DDoS thing can be is going to be solved at the IP 697 00:45:09,930 --> 00:45:12,510 level. That's not good. That's not a broken. That's a 698 00:45:12,510 --> 00:45:16,980 Cloudflare thing. Right? Yeah, exactly. So what we came up with 699 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,770 was just this idea of a 700 00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:26,430 half token. So essentially, the authorization token for pod ping 701 00:45:26,430 --> 00:45:28,350 is normally 44 characters long, 702 00:45:29,850 --> 00:45:30,510 random. 703 00:45:31,590 --> 00:45:38,370 So you get whatever 44 Today is the entropy. So then you have 44 704 00:45:38,370 --> 00:45:39,600 characters there. 705 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:45,390 And then we will for the pot, or for the power press installs, 706 00:45:45,690 --> 00:45:49,050 and other things that are like that with when they're going to 707 00:45:49,050 --> 00:45:54,060 be distributed. We just have like a 22 character ash that 708 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,660 have like a prefix, the first half, but the token doesn't 709 00:45:57,660 --> 00:46:02,430 change. And the second half is randomly generated. So then all 710 00:46:02,430 --> 00:46:08,820 the power press, and seriously simple installs would use that, 711 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:10,890 that stable 22 character, 712 00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:17,700 hash a 20 character hash, and then add on their own unique 713 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:21,270 random hash at the end of it for an additional 22. So that we 714 00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:26,520 know this up there, this is a power press install. And then 715 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,830 because every one of them will also be unique. We'll know if 716 00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:36,000 any one in particular goes nuts. Right. Okay. That's a good idea. 717 00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:41,040 I was also thinking obviously, you know, it would seem an easy 718 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,490 way 719 00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:45,300 that you can't hit the pod ping until you at least have 720 00:46:46,020 --> 00:46:47,040 published on 721 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,940 blueberry or on costos. 722 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,840 You need to be published there first before you can get a key, 723 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,610 right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah, that would be 724 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,340 that'd be part of the thing. So then the install the plug in 725 00:47:02,340 --> 00:47:05,220 itself would be would just generate it for you, you know, 726 00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:10,650 generate that key for you. And they, you know, Angelo, and Todd 727 00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:13,050 over there. Blueberry like, yeah, that sounds like it works. 728 00:47:13,050 --> 00:47:17,310 I think they're working on that. Cool. Is it built yet? No. Yeah. 729 00:47:17,490 --> 00:47:21,120 Work? That that's a big deal, because it's a huge deal. You 730 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,290 kidding me? That's another large chunk right there. That Oh, 731 00:47:25,350 --> 00:47:26,790 yeah, that's a bunch. 732 00:47:27,930 --> 00:47:33,810 The, those are 1000s of installs. They're now taken care 733 00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:36,060 of from that again, and can hit pod pain. 734 00:47:37,590 --> 00:47:40,770 Yeah. So anyway, that I love it felt good to solve that problem. 735 00:47:40,830 --> 00:47:42,810 Now, that's a great problem. We've been waiting for this for 736 00:47:42,810 --> 00:47:43,740 a long time. 737 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,310 And then that's just then and congratulations to cast those by 738 00:47:50,310 --> 00:47:53,730 the way. I think that's, that's great. What they did. Yes, the 739 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,300 so they have you Did you see what they did? They just put the 740 00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:01,500 field in there. You can just Yeah, value valuable? Yep. Yeah. 741 00:48:01,830 --> 00:48:04,920 And an education. You know, that's what most hosting 742 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,410 companies are good at is educating. And if anyone ever 743 00:48:07,410 --> 00:48:11,790 wants some help from me, I'd be happy to do anything you need in 744 00:48:11,790 --> 00:48:15,990 your education process of your your customers, if I can help. 745 00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:17,310 Now. 746 00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:24,060 I noticed I think, I think it was Matt from CAST, as was what 747 00:48:24,060 --> 00:48:27,840 had talked on Twitter. And Marco jumped in about, they're talking 748 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,530 about value for value. And he was saying that Marco was 749 00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:35,820 mentioning that there would be a privacy issue with with any sort 750 00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:39,510 of micro payments system. Privacy, we should know, I 751 00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:43,830 think, no, I think his stance was differently. But okay. What 752 00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:46,710 he what he was saying was any podcast app is going to use a 753 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:51,810 micro payment system to be always sending these payments to 754 00:48:51,810 --> 00:48:57,180 the podcaster would be getting an API somewhere. Yeah, I 755 00:48:57,180 --> 00:49:01,170 wouldn't know what would know what would know what you're 756 00:49:01,170 --> 00:49:06,810 sending. Let me read you what he said. Today. People People often 757 00:49:06,810 --> 00:49:09,510 asked me to integrate cryptocurrency podcast payment 758 00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:13,170 systems into the app. Sorry, I currently have no plans, among 759 00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:16,410 other reasons, including the risks and controversies inherent 760 00:49:16,410 --> 00:49:19,860 to crypto. I simply prefer not to involve myself in how 761 00:49:19,860 --> 00:49:23,250 podcasters make their money. That's pretty clear. 762 00:49:25,170 --> 00:49:29,250 Yeah, I didn't see that part. But I thought so. I think that's 763 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,760 that's that's other issues. And then this one, 764 00:49:33,810 --> 00:49:36,780 right? Yeah, that's really the definitive thing. Yeah, fine. 765 00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:40,200 Um, yeah. I think that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. No, no problems 766 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,480 with that at all. Everybody makes their own decisions. But 767 00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:47,100 this is what this is what I was referencing, he says, I haven't 768 00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:49,410 looked too deeply. But most systems require the app to make 769 00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:52,740 an API call somewhere when listing activity happens. So the 770 00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:55,530 network can send micro payments accordingly. As you can imagine, 771 00:49:55,530 --> 00:49:59,400 this raises privacy concerns. That's just simply not true. We 772 00:49:59,400 --> 00:49:59,970 had that. That's it. 773 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,330 That's what I wanted to talk about is not, you know, hit his 774 00:50:03,330 --> 00:50:06,150 decisions or his decision. And that's fine. And not, I'm not 775 00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:07,830 really going to be in the business of trying to convince 776 00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,410 anybody because I just don't want to do that. Other than 777 00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:13,530 that, I would say, it's not just podcasters making money. 778 00:50:13,590 --> 00:50:17,430 Everybody makes money, including podcast, app developers. That's 779 00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:20,070 all yeah, there's the there's that Yeah, that's absolutely. 780 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,790 But that I did think it was worth the reason I brought it up 781 00:50:23,790 --> 00:50:24,450 was because 782 00:50:25,830 --> 00:50:30,150 lightning, normally that would be right. Normally, if you're 783 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:33,450 going through something like Stripe, or some sort of API line 784 00:50:33,450 --> 00:50:37,170 that what he said is exactly right. And even if you're going 785 00:50:37,170 --> 00:50:42,660 to ln pay, that's right. But the difference in the unique part of 786 00:50:42,660 --> 00:50:46,710 lightning is that you don't have is that that doesn't have to be 787 00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:51,840 true, because you can run a lightning node, and you can run 788 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,000 your own instance of LM pay. And then you create the wallets and 789 00:50:57,030 --> 00:51:00,690 all the encrypted transactions 790 00:51:01,740 --> 00:51:05,160 leave directly from your system, right? It's peer to peer and 791 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,910 everything is done with onion based encryption. So that 792 00:51:09,210 --> 00:51:12,570 there's a this may be something that people don't know also, 793 00:51:13,260 --> 00:51:16,680 when if I send somebody a payment through lightning, if my 794 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,760 notes into your note a payment and it has to go through four 795 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,650 other hops to get to you the intermediate hops the three 796 00:51:25,650 --> 00:51:28,320 nodes in between that it had to go through to get to you 797 00:51:29,610 --> 00:51:34,080 it cannot see anything about the payment they can't even tell 798 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,050 where it's from or where it's ultimately going to they only 799 00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:39,150 know where they got it from where they're passing it off to. 800 00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:42,240 Right They know Yeah, exactly. They know the one they got it 801 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,420 from and the next one in the chain they do not and they don't 802 00:51:45,420 --> 00:51:48,360 even know if that's the final destination is the final 803 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,740 destination correct Yeah. So it that's that's the only reason I 804 00:51:52,740 --> 00:51:56,430 brought it up is because you know I respect his decisions and 805 00:51:56,430 --> 00:52:00,900 his his product but that specific thing with lightning it 806 00:52:01,170 --> 00:52:05,070 that happens to be different you don't there's not the privacy 807 00:52:05,070 --> 00:52:07,710 issue there that there normally would be with last drive or 808 00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:12,540 something like that, man I just love showing the roundabout now 809 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:15,660 I was on awesome on the bit refill podcast this was 810 00:52:15,660 --> 00:52:18,210 fantastic the bit refill podcast, 811 00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:20,970 which is just a bunch of dudes 812 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,730 like 2028 2930 year olds one in Nigeria who was in a supermarket 813 00:52:26,730 --> 00:52:30,060 it was really weird it was really cool um 814 00:52:31,110 --> 00:52:33,750 yeah, I don't think I've ever heard of this podcast bit refill 815 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:36,990 I think it's I think it's sponsored by bit refill you know 816 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:40,020 the that's the thing that you can you can get 817 00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:46,020 loyalty cards for Yeah, and so you know, they knew about 818 00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:49,500 podcasting 2.0 But they really weren't set up yet with with 819 00:52:49,710 --> 00:52:52,500 with value for value so let me show you so I did just because 820 00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:56,640 they were on Zoom I did a screen share I brought up heli pad and 821 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,720 then I popped up another tab with I think a curio caster to 822 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:05,700 now watch and I said I showed the the booster gram that I sent 823 00:53:05,700 --> 00:53:10,230 and then switch the tab and I forgot to turn up the the fader 824 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:14,400 for the for the PC. Oh yeah. The damn it was an impromptu demo. 825 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,480 You know, I'm refining it. And it was just so beautiful. 826 00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:23,730 You know, like 15 seconds later. Oop, there it is. And they're 827 00:53:23,730 --> 00:53:28,860 like ah, is this the to the moon podcast? No, it was called the 828 00:53:28,890 --> 00:53:32,010 bit refill podcast a 829 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,290 bit refill, just bit refill us with it's got to be on the 830 00:53:37,290 --> 00:53:40,260 index. Maybe it was just some dudes who were just catfishing 831 00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:40,800 me I don't know 832 00:53:47,310 --> 00:53:50,610 there was some it was really it was this kid on Twitter. He's 833 00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:55,470 Dutch he's 14 And he's like, I want I want to I want to you 834 00:53:55,470 --> 00:54:00,150 know buy some bitcoin but I have to be I have to be 18 I can't 835 00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:05,250 buy bitcoin anywhere. And he's clearly young you know he's like 836 00:54:05,250 --> 00:54:08,310 I really want to get into this and he tagged me because I've 837 00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:13,050 known in Holland and I said well then get a wallet says no but 838 00:54:13,050 --> 00:54:15,690 wallets he didn't quite understand it look read this. I 839 00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:17,970 sent him to learn me a bitcoin.com 840 00:54:19,050 --> 00:54:22,620 and said read this and then get a wallet and they and then he 841 00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:25,920 sent me his bitcoin address he figured it out and I was I sent 842 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,520 him 50 bucks in Bitcoin. This kid like this is the next mogul 843 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,270 you watch he's like, Okay, I'm gonna guard this with my life. 844 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:35,850 And I said oh, by the way, when I sent it to you this morning, 845 00:54:35,850 --> 00:54:38,430 it's up 11% Since then, so enjoy. 846 00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:43,890 This is put a young man on the right path he gave him he gave 847 00:54:43,890 --> 00:54:44,970 him an annuity little 848 00:54:46,140 --> 00:54:50,370 little little orange pilling there so let me see. Curio 849 00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:53,190 caster I love the kind of the new layout the new setting is 850 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:53,790 interesting. 851 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,680 He's kind of promoted he's you can promote your podcast now on 852 00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,940 curio caster I guess 853 00:55:01,319 --> 00:55:03,839 Oh, really? I think that's good. Yeah, I think you can he has 854 00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:08,249 promoted podcasts and let's see. I like that. I like 855 00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:15,510 the ad. I told a cache what it was at that workshop that for a 856 00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:19,230 couple weeks ago, I mentioned somebody asked in their head, 857 00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:23,160 how do I promote my podcast? You know, what's the best way to get 858 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,150 my podcast at the record? I don't know. That kind of stuff. 859 00:55:27,150 --> 00:55:30,390 I'm not a podcast. Marketing. Sorry. Yes, it is bit bit 860 00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:33,210 refills to the moon podcast. Yes. That's the one. Okay. I 861 00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:35,580 guess my engine is not up yet. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. 862 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,000 Well, they don't have a valuable look. No, I gave him shit about 863 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,500 that. So what's wrong with you people? 864 00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:49,170 I mean, Nigeria. So what? I said, Hey, we know people. Yeah. 865 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,530 Yeah, they need to jump on the bus. So anyway, I 866 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,050 forgot was talking to Moses. 867 00:55:56,340 --> 00:55:59,490 We were talking about the demo. 868 00:56:01,170 --> 00:56:06,450 We heavily heavily pad demo, Curia cafeteria. astir. Oh, the 869 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,130 promotion sponsored pod monster pocket, or whatever. Yeah. But 870 00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:15,750 she said, Well, you know how to promote my podcast. And that was 871 00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:19,020 in what I said was, I think, anytime is this is right. 872 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,800 Because I'm a dummy on these things is buying podcast 873 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,390 advertising, buying an ad for your podcast, in an app in a 874 00:56:27,390 --> 00:56:33,660 podcast app, like pod LP, or overcast or any curio cast any 875 00:56:33,660 --> 00:56:37,950 of these apps, this support by sort of in app advertising 876 00:56:38,010 --> 00:56:42,960 banner thing? You can buy that? Yep. Or buy ads on other 877 00:56:43,110 --> 00:56:46,920 podcasts. Like to me if you're going to spend some money to 878 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,340 like promote your show. I try to build an audience, if you're 879 00:56:50,370 --> 00:56:54,810 determined to do it that way. Like you should go to where 880 00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:57,600 people are that are already listening to podcasts. Yes, it 881 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,440 makes sense to me. 882 00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:05,820 Maybe, um, you know, that's no, this. This is what I've always 883 00:57:05,820 --> 00:57:09,690 been hoping for. And now we actually have a way to share 884 00:57:09,690 --> 00:57:14,970 revenues like, hey, you know, Steven Be curio caster. If you 885 00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:18,300 put me on your promoted page, why don't I give you you know, 886 00:57:18,330 --> 00:57:23,730 3% value block? Yeah, yes. Yes, this is the kind of stuff that 887 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,140 anybody can do today. The only thing is, I would say, Steven B, 888 00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:32,520 where do I can't? This is another thing, developers. Two 889 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,950 things actually, please consider putting a simple defined contact 890 00:57:39,150 --> 00:57:39,900 in your app. 891 00:57:41,070 --> 00:57:43,980 People actually do you know, they don't, they're not really 892 00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:47,220 used to it anymore because of Silicon Valley. But if you make 893 00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:51,960 it easier, and more apparent to people do really like feeding 894 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,800 back information and then hearing back from their favorite 895 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,460 app developer, it really does work but we have a very poor 896 00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:02,250 culture of this right now. The culture is typically a piece of 897 00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:06,330 crap app, let me delete it, get another one. But But podcasts, 898 00:58:07,290 --> 00:58:10,950 app users are very patient they are traditionally quite patient 899 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,760 and they understand and this is independent and you know, I 900 00:58:15,210 --> 00:58:18,240 Yeah, they've been tainted a bit by the by the legacy apps but 901 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:24,450 make it apparent. Also, I have to say, Piero Castor added $1 902 00:58:24,450 --> 00:58:27,480 translator in the booster grammar section 903 00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:34,140 where it updates dynamically so you can see fee price very very 904 00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:37,110 good at this is something I've been wanting to have for a long 905 00:58:37,110 --> 00:58:39,390 time. But stop being purists. 906 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,070 It really gives you you know, I've even up my own booster 907 00:58:44,070 --> 00:58:47,430 grams like what is this 69 cents this is stupid. Let me give a 908 00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:51,330 little bit more his dump. Oh, when the when the price is 909 00:58:51,330 --> 00:58:54,180 fairly stable. I get used to what the amounts are but then 910 00:58:54,180 --> 00:58:57,090 when it swings a lot I yeah, I really does throw me off my 911 00:58:57,090 --> 00:58:57,270 game. 912 00:58:59,490 --> 00:59:02,850 It's somewhere between two and 3000 SATs $1 typically Yeah, 913 00:59:02,850 --> 00:59:03,330 it's like 914 00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:07,260 I mean, I've spent I have there have been months when I've spent 915 00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:12,090 100 bucks on podcasts and no boosting and I don't know. I 916 00:59:12,090 --> 00:59:16,620 didn't even know I did. Yeah, I back at the end of the month. 917 00:59:16,620 --> 00:59:19,800 I'm like, Oh, wow, that boosted the crap out of people. I love 918 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,040 having the I love having the Umbro because it's it's really 919 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,940 my node for me, you know, and so stuff comes in there and I think 920 00:59:26,940 --> 00:59:28,590 I started with 150 bucks. 921 00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:31,230 On that note, excuse me. 922 00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:36,570 And I use it to refill my wallets and I can't spend it 923 00:59:36,570 --> 00:59:37,320 fast enough. 924 00:59:38,430 --> 00:59:42,000 I'm telling you, it just comes in and goes out. And by the way 925 00:59:42,030 --> 00:59:45,660 on your Umbral definitely set up the blue wallet, something or 926 00:59:45,660 --> 00:59:49,140 other whatever it's called most I think called the Blue what 927 00:59:49,140 --> 00:59:52,980 like the mobile? Yeah, so what you can do, it's kind of like 928 00:59:52,980 --> 00:59:58,380 Elon, Elon bits only. Maybe it is actually Elon bits. That's 929 00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:59,940 probably what it is. A second 930 01:00:00,810 --> 01:00:04,290 Just get this app connected to mine. Yeah, but if you do 931 01:00:05,730 --> 01:00:09,060 I think it's the Ellen bit server. Login. 932 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,900 Oh, sorry. Yes, see, let's see connect wallet. You can build 933 01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,080 blue wallets an option yes blue wallet because then you can set 934 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:19,380 up 935 01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:23,790 little mini wallets just like a shared node, right. So you can 936 01:00:23,790 --> 01:00:28,020 set up as many of these blue wallets on on one app you can 937 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:30,900 give, you can have your friends, your family, everybody can set 938 01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:35,340 up the blue wallet, and just using your node. And so I set up 939 01:00:35,340 --> 01:00:38,220 a blue wallet and then I transferred money into that blue 940 01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:41,250 wallet. Because it's kind of hard to send from your own node 941 01:00:41,250 --> 01:00:43,260 is like not really possible most of the time. 942 01:00:45,420 --> 01:00:49,140 So this is this is really a you'll love it because it works 943 01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:52,350 over Tor and it'll just and you I use that I now use my own my 944 01:00:52,350 --> 01:00:55,380 own little node for small payments with the blue wallet. 945 01:00:56,310 --> 01:01:01,380 That's cool. Yeah, I didn't need to do that. Yeah, man so much 946 01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:01,980 cool shit. 947 01:01:03,150 --> 01:01:06,750 This was at a true Uncle Jim no thing, then. Not really because 948 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:11,370 you can't you can't keys into it. Although from what I saw on 949 01:01:11,370 --> 01:01:17,010 a US on GitHub stuff activity, I guess ln bits is now key Sen 950 01:01:17,010 --> 01:01:20,850 compatible. So the the wallet you create with with LM bits, 951 01:01:21,090 --> 01:01:25,260 art or do work with key send? Oh, yeah, I read I'm not sure I 952 01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:28,290 haven't looked. I haven't. No, not enough time in the day. 953 01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:32,160 There's not there's really not. Hey, by the way, we're late 954 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,490 today with the board meeting. Which happens which by the way, 955 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,090 board members that's why we have the extra food here. You notice 956 01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:43,350 we have Mexican we have some Texas Beef here from KNC cattle 957 01:01:43,350 --> 01:01:45,660 we got a couple other things for you. We're sorry to keep you 958 01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:46,230 over dinner. 959 01:01:47,790 --> 01:01:48,690 But that's a big one for 960 01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:55,020 me. Oh, my red wine. But we were we delayed the start because you 961 01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:57,600 were at work with the move. How'd that go? And you were 962 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,260 moving your company to another floor or something? Yeah, it was 963 01:02:01,290 --> 01:02:03,780 internal move is like the third floor moved down to the ground 964 01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:07,800 floor half half of his because it was a bunch of just a bunch 965 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,450 of moving around bunch of phone system work. 966 01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:11,220 That is 967 01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:14,760 a waste the word. Yeah. I have to pull the cable. Did you? 968 01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:18,660 Yeah, yeah, we did all of our cabling and stuff. So you have 969 01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:22,260 people on Chad minions like little little people. Yeah, for 970 01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:26,490 you, right. It's me and one other guy. You and your minion 971 01:02:26,550 --> 01:02:31,830 your man. Amazing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, I can knock 972 01:02:31,830 --> 01:02:34,590 encrypted I can crimp the hell out of a fire cat five cable now 973 01:02:34,590 --> 01:02:38,010 I'm I'm I'm very good at cabling, but it's just it just 974 01:02:38,010 --> 01:02:42,000 takes forever. dirty work is dirty. Work is dirty. Just get 975 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,500 dirty. I got I got my guy here hooking up my generator. Do you 976 01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:49,350 want to talk funnily? Yeah, yeah, I got these guys that come 977 01:02:49,350 --> 01:02:50,700 in after hours. You know. 978 01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:54,990 I pulled some strings, because it's hard. But you can't you 979 01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:57,720 can't even get a petroleum tank right now if you want to buy 980 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,300 one. So I said well, this was this thing over here and we'll 981 01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:01,980 hook it up to my existing tank. Okay. 982 01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:08,250 This a propane generator? Yeah, yes. Or what? Propane 22 983 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,600 kilowatt? Generac 984 01:03:10,830 --> 01:03:13,590 Oh, that's a big one. That's a big size one. Yeah, phase or 985 01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:16,230 single phase three. I could run I could run the whole house with 986 01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:18,930 it. But you know, we're doing we're doing it properly. So 987 01:03:18,930 --> 01:03:22,170 you've got selective selective switches, you can you know, 988 01:03:22,170 --> 01:03:25,260 determine what you want to have on things pretty things pretty 989 01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:29,490 badass. I mean, they've Okay, so pretty. So what's your runtime? 990 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,390 What's your runtime? A 10 days 991 01:03:34,590 --> 01:03:37,110 10 days on a full portfolio? propane tank? Yeah. 992 01:03:38,310 --> 01:03:42,540 That's good. That's not bad. Right? I'm thinking the next Ice 993 01:03:42,540 --> 01:03:47,910 mageddon that Texas has, you're gonna have a huge you should be 994 01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:52,140 able to like isolate yourself down to like one or two rooms 995 01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:57,090 that you can keep warm. And then you could be able to run for 996 01:03:57,090 --> 01:04:00,720 what like two weeks if you needed to easily because we have 997 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,660 a propane fireplace 998 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,950 keeps most of the house warm. We don't even have to turn on the 999 01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:09,360 heating system if we don't want to. 1000 01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:13,170 So it'd be purely for the tankless water heaters. 1001 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,210 Excuse me the studio fridge freezer you know we have propane 1002 01:04:18,210 --> 01:04:23,280 gas. Propane for the stove. Oh yeah, we have you know, we have 1003 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,940 a well water we have our own aerobic septic system. So it 1004 01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:30,930 doesn't even have to be deep. Oops, you know, it sprays 1005 01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:34,380 freshwater over the ground. It's, you know, we're ready. I 1006 01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:38,970 got my got my ham radio, I got my rubber nice, my compass is 1007 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,770 ready to go. So I'm not worried about Snowmageddon. That's not 1008 01:04:43,770 --> 01:04:46,110 going to happen, which had nothing to do with Snowmageddon. 1009 01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:49,710 It had everything to do with greed and an ERCOT where people 1010 01:04:49,710 --> 01:04:52,590 are trading energy every five minutes on the auction and they 1011 01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:55,050 just got greedy and forgot to turn some shit on and then they 1012 01:04:55,050 --> 01:04:59,190 had no natural gas to turn it on with. That's not going to happen 1013 01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:59,970 again. But it 1014 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,240 Will is the grid under attack? Certainly the Texas grid which 1015 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,650 has its own grid to bring in new grids, a new national grid under 1016 01:05:07,650 --> 01:05:12,060 climate change a high voltage DC grid? Yeah, for sure. Will they 1017 01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:15,450 mess with it, but they bring it down to prove a point. I'm not 1018 01:05:15,450 --> 01:05:18,750 putting it past anybody. How many times do we have to Russia 1019 01:05:18,750 --> 01:05:22,740 is going to cyber attack it or domestic extremists are going to 1020 01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:28,020 attack the grid? Come on. But yeah, I totally believe the 1021 01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:31,860 American government or pieces of it are completely capable of 1022 01:05:31,860 --> 01:05:35,130 proving a point by bringing down pieces of the grid just to get 1023 01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:40,590 us to believe in something else. But did you hear that we're so 1024 01:05:40,590 --> 01:05:46,050 off topic now. But did you hear the Matt Lee? My man McAfee is 1025 01:05:46,050 --> 01:05:49,410 the best. But how long have I been following you? I've been 1026 01:05:49,410 --> 01:05:52,500 following him for a decade. And he used to have all these 1027 01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:57,150 issues. He Oh, yeah. He's like, dude, crisis actors false flag. 1028 01:05:57,420 --> 01:05:59,790 I mean, this is some Alex Jones level shit. Yeah. 1029 01:06:01,110 --> 01:06:05,070 This is the stuff. And this is this is where Joe Rogan to bring 1030 01:06:05,070 --> 01:06:08,640 it full circle is right. Because things that were fake news, 1031 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,210 misinformation, disinformation, scientifically dangerous three 1032 01:06:12,210 --> 01:06:15,090 months ago are now fact true and proven. 1033 01:06:16,170 --> 01:06:19,320 And people that the people that are trying to the people that 1034 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,670 are most vocal about getting Rogen canceled right now are the 1035 01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:27,930 ones that spent literally almost five years telling us that 1036 01:06:27,930 --> 01:06:31,710 Russia that Russia is involved in the Trump campaign and it was 1037 01:06:31,710 --> 01:06:39,000 completely false. I mean, like 100% complete crap. Has any 1038 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,730 credibility the same people telling you Russia's going to 1039 01:06:41,730 --> 01:06:46,140 invade Ukraine? Yeah, and what we know we already know it's 1040 01:06:46,140 --> 01:06:50,430 going to be a false flag. Okay, if if I don't even think that 1041 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,510 and I think Matt Matt got cut short because what he started 1042 01:06:54,510 --> 01:06:58,140 saying I think it just kind of dropped it was what he started 1043 01:06:58,140 --> 01:07:01,380 saying he said I remember you have weapons of mass 1044 01:07:01,380 --> 01:07:04,650 destruction. Yeah, weapons of mass. Let's rock. aluminum 1045 01:07:04,650 --> 01:07:06,030 tubes. Yeah, of course. 1046 01:07:07,140 --> 01:07:08,730 aluminum tubes yella K 1047 01:07:10,140 --> 01:07:13,470 babies thrown out of incubators. That was my favorite that was my 1048 01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:13,950 favorite 1049 01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:20,340 Yeah, I still have that clip of the girl crying who turned out 1050 01:07:20,340 --> 01:07:23,730 to be she was the daughter of killer Knowlton PR executive who 1051 01:07:23,730 --> 01:07:25,560 had been given a script 1052 01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:29,850 throw the babies out of the incubators on the ground. 1053 01:07:31,050 --> 01:07:34,080 And they never get they never get held to task about they just 1054 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,170 they just like okay move on. So of all the things that we've 1055 01:07:37,170 --> 01:07:40,470 accomplished in our lives we one day will be sitting on the porch 1056 01:07:40,860 --> 01:07:44,940 with our shotguns in our rocking chairs and our hound dogs and we 1057 01:07:44,970 --> 01:07:48,300 can we say man we sure enabled some crazy shit to be said 1058 01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:48,660 didn't we 1059 01:07:51,150 --> 01:07:55,200 that's what we did Davey. I remit that reminds me so I was 1060 01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,000 fishing one time with my with my dad so we're we're fishing and 1061 01:08:00,030 --> 01:08:03,780 the the the fishing is terrible. So we hadn't caught anything and 1062 01:08:03,780 --> 01:08:07,620 he's like it but we had we had in the truck. And so 1063 01:08:08,970 --> 01:08:10,650 how's that I guess I was a teenager 1064 01:08:12,690 --> 01:08:14,940 he's like at most useful squirrels. 1065 01:08:16,020 --> 01:08:16,320 So 1066 01:08:17,610 --> 01:08:19,620 what else is there to do an Alabama 1067 01:08:20,820 --> 01:08:23,850 hey you hungry let's go shoot some squirrels yeah 1068 01:08:24,930 --> 01:08:28,860 I'm like yeah sure. So we went get shotguns we're going around 1069 01:08:28,860 --> 01:08:31,530 on the boat well you shot the squirrels with the shotguns with 1070 01:08:31,530 --> 01:08:32,880 with like buckshot. 1071 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,430 It was F is it be blow those who remember blow them apart with 1072 01:08:38,430 --> 01:08:39,210 that was there 1073 01:08:40,380 --> 01:08:41,070 was anything left? 1074 01:08:42,930 --> 01:08:43,950 We didn't shoot anything. 1075 01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:47,910 But we what it wasn't buckshot. 1076 01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:52,530 I can't remember slug. Yeah, no no. 1077 01:08:54,330 --> 01:08:55,410 Explode 1078 01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:59,160 Tannerite tracer rounds. 1079 01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:03,510 Shoot some scrub some trace. Uranium 1080 01:09:05,550 --> 01:09:08,730 depleted uranium tip tracer rounds, not your tracers. Yeah. 1081 01:09:09,690 --> 01:09:11,880 It's I'm sitting there and where he's like, you know, we're 1082 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,150 looking for nest and that kind of thing. And I'm just fiddling 1083 01:09:15,150 --> 01:09:18,270 with the with I thought the safety was on so I'm just 1084 01:09:18,270 --> 01:09:21,390 fiddling with the trigger. And just, oh, I don't know what I 1085 01:09:21,390 --> 01:09:25,350 was doing cleaning the gun and it went off. No, no, no, not 1086 01:09:25,350 --> 01:09:28,500 that. Not that. I'm not that stupid. But I have it sitting 1087 01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:33,660 with the stock. Stock of the shotgun is sitting right. In 1088 01:09:33,810 --> 01:09:38,880 right in the meat of my hip. Like, really? Almost exactly. On 1089 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,300 my crotch. Oh, just right there in the meat. And it's Roy 1090 01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:42,690 earlier. 1091 01:09:43,770 --> 01:09:46,530 Yes. Thank you for that word. The mic was sitting on my 1092 01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:50,490 growing and the barrel is facing straight up into the air and I'm 1093 01:09:50,490 --> 01:09:53,070 hold. I'm just holding my router. And I'm mindlessly 1094 01:09:53,070 --> 01:09:54,030 fiddling with this thing. 1095 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,010 I don't know how the safety got off. But anyway, all of a sudden 1096 01:09:59,610 --> 01:09:59,970 boom. 1097 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,970 discharge. And this thing just goes right into my job. It's 1098 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,370 amazing. You have children Dave shows. 1099 01:10:10,650 --> 01:10:12,840 You that is the scariest thing that 1100 01:10:14,099 --> 01:10:18,899 ever happened. That's hilarious. I don't know how I got on that. 1101 01:10:18,929 --> 01:10:22,529 Oh, yeah. I don't know how you got there, but I do appreciate 1102 01:10:22,529 --> 01:10:28,349 the visual. Thank you. Yes. Do not ever wreck yourself with a 1103 01:10:28,349 --> 01:10:31,049 shotgun with a shot. Well, you know, Chris, do you know Sir 1104 01:10:31,049 --> 01:10:31,589 Chris? 1105 01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:35,820 You know, Chris, we talked about Chris Chris. Jacob. 1106 01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:41,790 Oh, no, he's my he's my buddy. No, no, no, he's not. But he's 1107 01:10:41,790 --> 01:10:44,880 been in a lot of companies with me. And then. Oh, yeah, he was 1108 01:10:44,910 --> 01:10:48,570 he was your sales guy. Right? Yeah. More than that. It was 1109 01:10:48,570 --> 01:10:50,820 like, Chris, we need a million dollars to make our numbers. 1110 01:10:50,820 --> 01:10:54,060 Okay. That was Chris, you'd go out, you know, Chris would work 1111 01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:56,670 for three years and burn himself out and go do something else. 1112 01:10:56,700 --> 01:11:00,090 crude, fantastic answer. Thanks. He's, well, he's no, he's also 1113 01:11:00,090 --> 01:11:02,430 been on the ground with us at the ground level starting 1114 01:11:02,430 --> 01:11:06,270 building stuff. He's just he's he understands sales very well. 1115 01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:12,030 But other things too. And he is after our last venture together. 1116 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,930 eventually wound up owning some gun stores. And there's this 1117 01:11:15,930 --> 01:11:20,610 famous video on YouTube. It's a it's their office. You know, 1118 01:11:20,610 --> 01:11:24,420 it's like a dash cam, internal Office video, they published it. 1119 01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:29,820 And so I think at the time Chris had, like his girlfriend was 1120 01:11:29,820 --> 01:11:32,160 some crazy ex Marines. 1121 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,390 I don't want to disparage marine so that's probably wrong. But 1122 01:11:36,930 --> 01:11:38,010 anyway, she had 1123 01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:43,740 she was really into guns and she had swapped out his trigger for 1124 01:11:43,740 --> 01:11:47,520 some other thing that was much lighter or, you know, sensitive. 1125 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,080 Anyway, triggers. Yeah, so he, he didn't everyone has their 1126 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,870 guns in this gun shop in the office and he and you see him 1127 01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:57,270 getting up, he's gonna walk out. He puts his gun in his 1128 01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:59,790 waistband. And then as he's walking here, 1129 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,230 and shot right through his groin, out his butt. 1130 01:12:06,330 --> 01:12:10,260 I'm allowed to laugh because he's my friend. Oh, my God. 1131 01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:14,010 Yeah. And it's it's really, you know, it's you got it. It's on 1132 01:12:14,010 --> 01:12:16,680 YouTube. It's phenomenal. You just look, he's like, Dude, 1133 01:12:16,770 --> 01:12:21,090 that's the worst. That's the worst. He's okay. But it was not 1134 01:12:21,090 --> 01:12:21,420 fun. 1135 01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:27,060 He was bleeding quite a bit, apparently. Yeah, yeah. Shot 1136 01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:30,390 through some arteries or something. Oh, crap, man. That 1137 01:12:30,420 --> 01:12:33,420 yeah, that's a bad day. Yeah. So that's like, there's a couple 1138 01:12:33,420 --> 01:12:37,350 lessons here. Like don't let anyone else touch your gun. Yes, 1139 01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:41,310 yes. That would be the top one. Anyway. Um, do you want talk 1140 01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:46,350 about podcasting? Yeah, I know, for sure. There's but but yes, I 1141 01:12:46,350 --> 01:12:51,060 do, of course. But what we're talking about here is why we're 1142 01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:56,340 here. This is the whole It felt so good to tell multiple people 1143 01:12:56,340 --> 01:13:01,440 this week, including Tom woods to say, we fix it. We fix these 1144 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:06,570 problems. So we can move on from here, let them all that. Even 1145 01:13:06,570 --> 01:13:11,310 Joe and hoopy. And everybody go argue over there. We really 1146 01:13:11,310 --> 01:13:14,190 don't get a shit. We don't care. It doesn't matter to us. And 1147 01:13:14,190 --> 01:13:17,910 we're not alone. We're not now a little island. This thing is 1148 01:13:17,970 --> 01:13:22,890 big. What we're doing is big. It's it's, it's it's rolling. 1149 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,730 It's it's common. I mean, people are seeing it, they're talking 1150 01:13:26,730 --> 01:13:31,800 about it. They're suggesting podcasting 2.0 to people. It's 1151 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,430 happening. 1152 01:13:33,630 --> 01:13:38,070 Because of all this, it's it's it's perfect. Unlike you, I feel 1153 01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:41,640 like we we don't really have to talk about that part of things 1154 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:45,810 anymore. No, we don't, we don't. And it's nice to not have to be 1155 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,040 to not have to, like, just go on and on endlessly about deep 1156 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,140 platforming and all that kind stuff. Because to me the most, 1157 01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:55,320 the most important is what I was trying to say at the beginning, 1158 01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,290 and it probably just didn't just muddy it up. But to me, the most 1159 01:13:58,290 --> 01:14:03,810 important thing, really, is that when there's an option to cancel 1160 01:14:03,810 --> 01:14:09,930 somebody, it makes you stop actually listening to us trying 1161 01:14:09,930 --> 01:14:14,610 to understand what they're saying. Yes, yeah. Because, you 1162 01:14:14,610 --> 01:14:17,970 know, and what I meant by being charitable to somebody is that 1163 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:25,380 she, actually we know what, we can't play another clip because 1164 01:14:25,380 --> 01:14:26,490 I think number three, 1165 01:14:27,630 --> 01:14:28,320 um, 1166 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,050 see, try. 1167 01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:35,070 Yeah, try number three. Yeah, do that. And that they could apply 1168 01:14:35,070 --> 01:14:38,370 it to all different kinds of people. That idea of race and 1169 01:14:38,370 --> 01:14:42,270 the American experience tends to be based on skin. Yes. And so 1170 01:14:42,270 --> 01:14:46,860 that is what race means to me. When you talk about 1171 01:14:48,060 --> 01:14:52,770 being a racist. I was saying, you can't call this racism. This 1172 01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:56,730 was evil. This wasn't this wasn't based on the skin. You 1173 01:14:56,730 --> 01:14:59,970 couldn't tell who was Jewish. They had to delve deep. 1174 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,410 To figure it out. 1175 01:15:02,610 --> 01:15:08,160 Now, clearly she's wrong about that. But, but, and that's kind 1176 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,330 of the point is 1177 01:15:10,469 --> 01:15:14,849 the point, the point here is that she has a life experience 1178 01:15:15,329 --> 01:15:24,389 that tells her what racism is. And if you, if you when you say, 1179 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,310 Okay, well, you were wrong, and therefore you need to be de 1180 01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:33,990 platformed or canceled about a no the Holocaust and racism that 1181 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,850 you've you're no longer listening to what she says, what 1182 01:15:38,850 --> 01:15:43,680 the what the things, what she came to realize you can play I 1183 01:15:43,710 --> 01:15:48,270 think you played for is what she came to realize is that she was 1184 01:15:48,270 --> 01:15:48,810 wrong. 1185 01:15:50,010 --> 01:15:55,260 That that there was a racial component, but she still has 1186 01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:59,130 such a life experience that tells her that race is skin 1187 01:15:59,130 --> 01:16:00,990 color, that 1188 01:16:02,190 --> 01:16:05,790 you're to say that she was wrong. 1189 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,760 Like, in a way that is harmful and cancelable is not 1190 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,630 understanding who she is as a person either. You can the 1191 01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:21,330 the conversation could have been, instead of your evil, you 1192 01:16:21,330 --> 01:16:24,330 need to be de platformed the conversation could have been 1193 01:16:24,330 --> 01:16:30,030 something more akin to, I can see how you're hurt about your 1194 01:16:30,030 --> 01:16:34,350 life experience, influences the way that you think and talk. 1195 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:40,080 And, I mean, yeah, but Dave, sorry. Two things. There's a 1196 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,500 whole history of we'll be bold Goldberg being anything but 1197 01:16:43,500 --> 01:16:47,640 charitable to other people publicly agreed. Agree. Okay. So 1198 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,580 this is where the canceled culture this is where the the 1199 01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:53,550 social networking and everything comes in and people are ready to 1200 01:16:53,550 --> 01:16:58,470 do it. Also after 74 episodes of Mo facts 75 Actually with Mo 1201 01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:59,100 facts 1202 01:17:01,170 --> 01:17:05,670 she's kind of disingenuous because there's something known 1203 01:17:05,670 --> 01:17:09,150 as colorism and she knows damn well that in the black 1204 01:17:09,150 --> 01:17:14,190 community, there's racism between skin colors themselves, 1205 01:17:14,460 --> 01:17:18,360 so to say, you know, black, white nanananana there's 1206 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,000 everything in between the historically black colleges and 1207 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,030 universities in the United States had the brown paper bag 1208 01:17:24,030 --> 01:17:27,570 test when they initially opened and you could not have skin 1209 01:17:27,570 --> 01:17:32,700 color darker than a brown paper bag to enter that university. So 1210 01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:35,910 she's disingenuous about her history she's making it very, 1211 01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:39,660 very simple to get out of this is my opinion. Was that Ned see 1212 01:17:39,660 --> 01:17:40,140 there? 1213 01:17:41,490 --> 01:17:47,340 There is. I am take I don't I do not dispute her past where she's 1214 01:17:47,670 --> 01:17:52,170 been an uncharitable towards other people in that there again 1215 01:17:52,170 --> 01:17:57,780 that's my point. But that's my point is that yes, yes, that's 1216 01:17:57,780 --> 01:18:00,930 the problem. I totally agree with you. That is the problem 1217 01:18:00,930 --> 01:18:05,070 she she has not been shared with this this goes back to the curry 1218 01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:08,160 I don't know if called the curry rule or the boomerang law the 1219 01:18:08,190 --> 01:18:11,400 Uber Uber then the media boomerang. If you use the 1220 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,790 boomerang if you use the media to promote yourself or something 1221 01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:20,280 selfish even just a thought Believe it or not, that thing 1222 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,070 comes around it may not be immediate could be years from 1223 01:18:23,070 --> 01:18:26,940 now and it will hit you with equal and opposite force in your 1224 01:18:26,940 --> 01:18:27,330 head. 1225 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,690 Right in the head. Yeah. Right born clock. So she got it and 1226 01:18:33,690 --> 01:18:37,050 you know, and for my money. She was forced to do this. I don't 1227 01:18:37,050 --> 01:18:40,170 think she wants to do Kobe I think she just wanted she did. 1228 01:18:40,170 --> 01:18:44,100 This is bullshit. She was forced to do it by her overlords. The 1229 01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:47,820 view is a highly scripted program highly scripted. She 1230 01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:50,280 went off script, that's her mistake. 1231 01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:56,520 And, you know, she may be the most completely disingenuous 1232 01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,350 person in the whole world. And probably is but 1233 01:19:02,370 --> 01:19:02,970 I, 1234 01:19:04,050 --> 01:19:09,690 for my for myself, to me how to fix that is to take people at 1235 01:19:09,690 --> 01:19:14,580 their word until they prove that you can't. And he just went good 1236 01:19:14,580 --> 01:19:19,440 man, Dave Jones. You're You're a sweet southern boy in Alabama 1237 01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:22,260 shooting squirrels. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is evil 1238 01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:24,420 son. We got to let you know about this stuff. 1239 01:19:25,530 --> 01:19:29,190 kicking myself in the shoes, shooting squirrels hurting your 1240 01:19:29,190 --> 01:19:31,590 crotch get sketchy, no fish. 1241 01:19:33,090 --> 01:19:33,510 Catching 1242 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:35,820 the worst part? 1243 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,010 Yes, but you are 1244 01:19:43,140 --> 01:19:48,480 a very special person because you have this ability. You have 1245 01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:54,090 an incredible demeanor and calmness about you, even with 1246 01:19:54,090 --> 01:19:57,060 people that really irritate you. And I've seen this and you're 1247 01:19:57,060 --> 01:19:59,880 very, very good because I think your basic rule is 1248 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,840 Doesn't take much just to be nice. Yes, it doesn't and it 1249 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,160 doesn't. It really doesn't turn that frown upside down. Mr. 1250 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,570 Dave. Mr. Happy to happy to twinkle toes. I could tell by 1251 01:20:12,570 --> 01:20:17,520 watching her face. Yes, you're right. She didn't want to do it. 1252 01:20:18,030 --> 01:20:21,510 But I can tell by watching her face that she really 1253 01:20:22,650 --> 01:20:24,960 the reason she didn't want to do it is because she still thinks 1254 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:31,800 she's right. Of course still not 100% on board with what 1255 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:36,030 everybody else said. And like, I'm just gonna put it real plain 1256 01:20:36,030 --> 01:20:40,230 to you. This is this is show business shit. I've been through 1257 01:20:40,230 --> 01:20:45,570 this too. You don't mess with the Jews in show business. I'll 1258 01:20:45,570 --> 01:20:49,200 just say it. Brian of London will back me up on this. We talk 1259 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,410 about this stuff. And I love that about Brian of London. We 1260 01:20:52,410 --> 01:20:55,410 can talk about Semitism, anti semitism, all kinds of things. 1261 01:20:55,410 --> 01:20:57,990 He's very open really willing to listen. 1262 01:21:00,450 --> 01:21:04,230 That's just that's just what she did she crossed paths. Look at 1263 01:21:04,230 --> 01:21:07,620 look at who's producing look who the bosses are. This is a very 1264 01:21:07,620 --> 01:21:10,470 big thing I know. Because I've said to Jewish, Jewish people, 1265 01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:14,220 friends of mine, isn't what? You're not white. No, no, we're 1266 01:21:14,220 --> 01:21:16,980 not. We're not white. We're Jewish. Okay. And once you once 1267 01:21:16,980 --> 01:21:17,730 you've heard it, 1268 01:21:19,380 --> 01:21:21,810 then you're like, okay, but this is all reasonably new for me. 1269 01:21:21,810 --> 01:21:23,700 And I think it's with the whole white supremacy like, 1270 01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:26,400 we're not white. We're Jews. 1271 01:21:27,450 --> 01:21:31,650 And whatever the mechanism is, the whole thing is stupid. 1272 01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:35,970 The whole thing. You know what I like? I like that we have Jews, 1273 01:21:35,970 --> 01:21:41,040 Muslims. nutjobs, crazies, men, women. Gosh, who knows? Some of 1274 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,540 our developers could be trans. I don't care. We're building 1275 01:21:45,540 --> 01:21:48,330 product. We're building cool shit. We're saving the world. 1276 01:21:48,420 --> 01:21:49,650 We're getting people paid. 1277 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:51,960 That's what matters. 1278 01:21:53,730 --> 01:21:56,340 I can't believe that I spent this much time talking about 1279 01:21:56,340 --> 01:21:58,950 Whoopi Goldberg. I tried to pull you away from it. You just kept 1280 01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:59,190 doing 1281 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,810 it let's thank some people that'll always that always 1282 01:22:03,810 --> 01:22:08,310 shakes it up. All right. Unless I'm sorry, if you want to play 1283 01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:11,310 the the final Whoopie ko bear follow no God. 1284 01:22:13,290 --> 01:22:17,880 But I completely understand what you're saying. It's just It's 1285 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:23,130 futile to to think people were way beyond that. We've got a 1286 01:22:23,130 --> 01:22:26,850 dopamine dispenser machine and everybody's pocket. 1287 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:34,050 Depressing. A little bit. But yeah, but no. Because pod Yes. 1288 01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:40,890 Yeah, but no, yeah, no. Yeah, no. Podcasts are definitely 1289 01:22:40,890 --> 01:22:45,960 changing that the calmness the ability to just walk and listen 1290 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,650 to something that's a big part of Rogan success people aren't 1291 01:22:49,650 --> 01:22:53,160 flocking to him for disinformation they're flocking 1292 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,520 to him because podcasts are the place we can hear someone talk 1293 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,700 for two seconds like you I don't care if you talk for five five 1294 01:22:59,700 --> 01:23:01,650 hours about Whoopi I'll be right there with you 1295 01:23:02,940 --> 01:23:06,360 we you know you know we care you actually do care of course I do. 1296 01:23:07,170 --> 01:23:10,050 You know I care about you first and foremost you would you would 1297 01:23:10,050 --> 01:23:12,690 be concerned about my mental health well maybe our four I'd 1298 01:23:12,690 --> 01:23:13,830 be like dude let's just move on. 1299 01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:18,000 But we you know, we created times to for that you can play 1300 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,150 faster speed you can fast forward you can skip ahead you 1301 01:23:21,150 --> 01:23:24,750 know, this is this is all within the hands of the of the user 1302 01:23:24,750 --> 01:23:27,990 now, what B mode times to do is what 1303 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:34,440 but but this this is this is the shift this is the truth. This is 1304 01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:36,660 what we've been seeing this is what we've been waiting to 1305 01:23:36,660 --> 01:23:42,390 happen. Unfortunately, the the rise of true podcasting in its 1306 01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:46,260 real form of no one can mess with it. You can just do what 1307 01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:51,360 you want to do and and say what you want to say comes at the 1308 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:55,890 same time the the world is in meltdown. But that's exactly why 1309 01:23:55,890 --> 01:23:56,820 it's so great. 1310 01:23:57,930 --> 01:24:01,290 For the past 24 months, I've had nothing but emails from people 1311 01:24:01,290 --> 01:24:04,830 saying and I've talked to Tom Woods talk to Joe Rogan talk to 1312 01:24:05,460 --> 01:24:09,120 Megan Kelly, they all say the same thing. I got the same 1313 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,660 emails from people saying you kept me sane through this 1314 01:24:12,690 --> 01:24:13,710 insanity. 1315 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,600 You did that? I guess do that's what podcasts do for people. And 1316 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,210 it doesn't mean that you have to have information better 1317 01:24:21,210 --> 01:24:25,170 information. Just someone that you want to listen to that you 1318 01:24:25,650 --> 01:24:29,910 probably agree with, you know probably or or something that is 1319 01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:32,970 just you know, someone who seemingly is not affected and 1320 01:24:32,970 --> 01:24:36,270 we'll talk about something else whatever it is, this became real 1321 01:24:36,270 --> 01:24:39,870 important. This was podcasts secret victory. 1322 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,840 Secret victory to me that that is I mean, obviously no agenda 1323 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:53,340 but then that's pod land. That's mere mortals survival podcast. 1324 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,390 It's, you know, the 1325 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,040 Fun Fact Friday. That's everything everywhere. I mean, 1326 01:24:59,070 --> 01:24:59,970 like the that's 1327 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,220 The causality the podcasts are part of. I mean, it really does 1328 01:25:05,790 --> 01:25:09,930 feel like a fan family type. You know, especially now that I can 1329 01:25:09,930 --> 01:25:13,050 send booster grants back and forth. I know like I'm talking 1330 01:25:13,050 --> 01:25:16,500 to James Cridland I'm literally talking to him during his show. 1331 01:25:16,860 --> 01:25:19,530 I'm like what I'm doing No, no, no, no, no. What are you 1332 01:25:19,530 --> 01:25:25,650 talking? Hey 6666 for the devil's advocate Yeah. Karen 1333 01:25:25,650 --> 01:25:28,860 down from a mere mortals the other day he said, and this this 1334 01:25:28,860 --> 01:25:32,880 just cracked me up he said that his ideal girl that he'd want to 1335 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,990 date is kind multilingual 1336 01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:40,830 and, and get into Bitcoin for 2014 1337 01:25:42,330 --> 01:25:45,360 Nothing wrong with marrying for money my friend. Nothing wrong 1338 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,760 with that. Nothing wrong with they deserve every penny if you 1339 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,140 do. Speaking of speaking of pennies, yes. Let's thank some 1340 01:25:52,140 --> 01:25:52,650 peeps. 1341 01:25:53,790 --> 01:25:57,150 We get these are in completely jumbled up order because I had 1342 01:25:57,150 --> 01:25:58,710 no time to prep. So 1343 01:26:00,030 --> 01:26:05,970 chair Faro? monthly donation of $20.22. Thank you 1344 01:26:08,460 --> 01:26:09,210 deduce. 1345 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:17,580 Got Scott Jalbert $12. That's a monthly donation. And I'm 1346 01:26:18,690 --> 01:26:21,030 going slow and these because I'm they're still on the screen. I 1347 01:26:21,030 --> 01:26:25,080 usually have my paper. Yeah, I hear this is out. You're ruining 1348 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,590 the format. I know it's I'm totally off off kilter here. 1349 01:26:30,810 --> 01:26:34,650 Miguel Gomez, give us $20 As a one time donation, thank you, 1350 01:26:34,650 --> 01:26:37,770 Miguel. No note from Miguel Miguel, if you have a note, send 1351 01:26:37,770 --> 01:26:41,400 it to me, I should probably say that this is a value for value 1352 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,540 project just to remind everybody, since I preach minds, 1353 01:26:45,540 --> 01:26:46,050 we'll do it. 1354 01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:52,770 We only exist by the value that we create and that people value 1355 01:26:52,770 --> 01:26:58,110 and send back. It's that simple. If you appreciate podcasting 2.0 1356 01:26:58,830 --> 01:27:02,400 This podcast all the work that's being done, the servers that are 1357 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,030 running the node for Oh crap, I supposed to do that ring of 1358 01:27:06,030 --> 01:27:07,710 fire, the node for 1359 01:27:09,150 --> 01:27:13,290 shit, I'm sorry. For liquidity where we put all of all of our 1360 01:27:13,290 --> 01:27:15,840 bitcoins on this node and we open it we have hundreds of 1361 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,650 channels open or at least over 100 channels. And we've actually 1362 01:27:19,650 --> 01:27:21,270 become an important node because of it. 1363 01:27:23,190 --> 01:27:25,980 All because of you. So whatever value you get out of it, or if 1364 01:27:25,980 --> 01:27:28,860 you just love it, and that's the value right there. Go to 1365 01:27:28,860 --> 01:27:31,500 podcasting next.org You can go down to the bottom of that page 1366 01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:34,230 has a red donate button, or of course and we'll get to those 1367 01:27:34,230 --> 01:27:38,670 you can boost us and and send stream some stats to us as you 1368 01:27:38,700 --> 01:27:39,870 enjoy everything we're doing. 1369 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:47,220 Loretta Vandenberg gave us $10 I think that's the new subscript. 1370 01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:51,270 I was gonna say, banana but Vandenberg Vandenberg Phantom, 1371 01:27:52,050 --> 01:27:55,380 is that Dutch? Yeah, well, I know Adrian Vandenberg 1372 01:27:57,570 --> 01:27:58,740 from Whitesnake. 1373 01:28:00,630 --> 01:28:03,090 Yeah, he's a Dutch guy. He's a Dutch guitar player. 1374 01:28:05,220 --> 01:28:08,940 wonder she's related. Probably not. That's, that was always my 1375 01:28:08,940 --> 01:28:12,630 problem with white lion. Just too close to Whitesnake. Yeah, 1376 01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:18,630 yeah. Do you remember firehouse firehouse Yeah. 1377 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,050 Did they sing Don't close your eyes 1378 01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:25,140 remember that when dunk clues 1379 01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:27,600 firehouse 1380 01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:32,850 Christian band today? No no when a Christian 1381 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,920 was that but yeah that was firehouse striper. Man Do you 1382 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,880 remember striper strike Yeah, when I look into your eyes when 1383 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,280 I look into your eyes that's what your that was firehouse 1384 01:28:45,420 --> 01:28:50,520 Don't close your eyes was kicks kx. Yeah. Oh, yes. This is this 1385 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,090 is firehouse Yeah. Oh my god. 1386 01:28:55,140 --> 01:28:57,720 Take me back to the 80s Yeah, I got to turn that off. That's 1387 01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:58,140 horrible. 1388 01:28:59,220 --> 01:29:02,610 My aim was Don't close your kicks. I remember kicks to 1389 01:29:04,290 --> 01:29:09,150 know I was hairband guy. I hear you, bro. I hear you. I hear 1390 01:29:09,150 --> 01:29:13,620 you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Loretta. And we got 1391 01:29:14,010 --> 01:29:17,460 Mark Graham gives $1 He's scription monthly donor. Thank 1392 01:29:17,460 --> 01:29:17,940 you, Mark. 1393 01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:24,870 $20 from Samuel Thorpe. And he says hello. My previous donate. 1394 01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:28,980 Oh, hello. Hello. My previous donation was twice on 1395 01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:36,600 actually says hello. Hello. Okay. Hello. My previous 1396 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,630 donation was read out twice. So I'm making up for it with 1397 01:29:39,630 --> 01:29:44,280 another donation. Thank you. This is a new strategy. Very 1398 01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,190 good day well done. Our evil plan has worked once again. 1399 01:29:50,130 --> 01:29:55,110 Notes sent to give at podcast index.org subject donation Okay, 1400 01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:58,800 so he's got another note here. Okay, here we go. So he sent us 1401 01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,670 another note he says 1402 01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,020 Oh yeah this was 1403 01:30:03,389 --> 01:30:05,729 he says my donation was read out twice that the second time you 1404 01:30:05,729 --> 01:30:10,049 read the clarification about being fr pronounced father. 1405 01:30:10,289 --> 01:30:13,289 Neither time was I anticipating the note to be read out I think 1406 01:30:13,289 --> 01:30:14,429 I called him fryer. 1407 01:30:15,780 --> 01:30:18,810 I think he is fryer isn't fr I think I think he's I saw that 1408 01:30:18,810 --> 01:30:22,650 note I think FR is fryer is it not? Or is it father? Well he 1409 01:30:22,650 --> 01:30:27,300 says pronounced father. Oh, and he's a god caster or is he just 1410 01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:28,230 a supporter? 1411 01:30:31,020 --> 01:30:37,140 Do this see? I listened to a lot of God casters have to say yes, 1412 01:30:37,170 --> 01:30:40,200 I feel grim path is the name from the pilgrim path. Okay, 1413 01:30:40,260 --> 01:30:44,190 I'll check that. I love religious podcasts in jet most 1414 01:30:44,190 --> 01:30:45,150 of them most of them. 1415 01:30:46,410 --> 01:30:49,860 I do. I love Steve Webb man. I can listen to him all day long. 1416 01:30:50,910 --> 01:30:53,160 Well, you might like the podcast. 1417 01:30:55,710 --> 01:30:58,410 Oh, look it up in a minute. I'll send it to you. There's a 1418 01:30:58,440 --> 01:30:59,400 podcast you might like. 1419 01:31:00,420 --> 01:31:04,920 Yes. Oh, see, Samuel says pronounce father. I started my 1420 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,280 podcast from the pilgrim path in November lockdown is 2020 here 1421 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,790 in the UK. Oh, so it was it was Hello. Hello. Hello from the 1422 01:31:11,790 --> 01:31:13,350 pilgrim path. Yeah. 1423 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,970 James and Oscar and Samuel are all just like cringing right 1424 01:31:17,970 --> 01:31:18,090 now. 1425 01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:22,320 In the UK use WordPress to get going shortly after I 1426 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,010 encountered first first no agenda and then podcasting 2.0 1427 01:31:26,430 --> 01:31:27,930 in a conversation with Adam and Dave 1428 01:31:29,010 --> 01:31:32,520 I quickly realized WordPress wasn't going to cut it is paused 1429 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,760 rethink life happened at Time passed. And then you had the 1430 01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,690 rss.com guys on and I signed up with them the day after I heard 1431 01:31:39,690 --> 01:31:42,870 the show and they've been brilliant. Oh good. Oh, he's 1432 01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:47,880 dude he's duped in the index. We have a dupe we got a duper Oh 1433 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,860 Was he WordPress and rss.com can well I'm looking at curio caster 1434 01:31:52,860 --> 01:31:54,240 so I guess I should look at 1435 01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:59,100 Can I just use that p i number that's interesting. From the 1436 01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:00,660 pilgrim path here it is a dupe 1437 01:32:01,770 --> 01:32:05,580 do I know his podcast? Not him personally? He is 1438 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,010 oh, that Yep. Yeah, that's that's the WordPress I'll clean 1439 01:32:11,010 --> 01:32:15,570 it up. Okay, so which one which one? Do we use the the Yeah, we 1440 01:32:15,570 --> 01:32:19,440 got we got the right actually actually see. Oh, there's a 1441 01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:23,130 different Pilger Oh, there's a pilgrim path podcast. Pastor 1442 01:32:23,130 --> 01:32:27,660 Chris Surber. This one is from the pilgrim path. I know but we 1443 01:32:27,660 --> 01:32:30,330 have Pastor Chris horning in on the name here I think we should 1444 01:32:30,810 --> 01:32:33,570 we should shadow ban him. Shadow but 1445 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,820 I'm going to shadow ban. This anchor. 1446 01:32:40,230 --> 01:32:46,050 interloper and move Samuel up to the top. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll 1447 01:32:46,050 --> 01:32:49,800 clean that up. Get get ready to get your value box set up. 1448 01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:54,660 Yeah, yeah. What are you doing Samuel? Set up your blog. Oh, 1449 01:32:54,660 --> 01:32:57,870 man, you actually have a mouse over it says claim your feed 1450 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,670 isn't true reclaim this claim this feed triggers me it does 1451 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,450 claim this feed on podcast we're okay. What should what should it 1452 01:33:06,450 --> 01:33:06,930 say? 1453 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:09,630 Add a valuable 1454 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:11,280 I'm 1455 01:33:12,810 --> 01:33:16,200 just think about it. claim this feed is just such a huge thing. 1456 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,780 And it's usually used by assholes who trick you into 1457 01:33:18,810 --> 01:33:22,500 signing up for something they steal all your content. Great. 1458 01:33:22,530 --> 01:33:24,480 Yes. Oh, great. It'll change things. 1459 01:33:26,910 --> 01:33:30,390 Thank you ppreciate it man. That's how we debug our shit 1460 01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:35,220 here. People live on the air. Right. This is no good. Change 1461 01:33:35,220 --> 01:33:35,820 that okay. 1462 01:33:36,930 --> 01:33:37,920 noted on the pad. 1463 01:33:38,970 --> 01:33:44,310 Chris, Chris bars. Ron, give us $33.33 And he says A big thanks 1464 01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:48,360 from Sir bargy today for helping my new my new podcast show up 1465 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,300 right on the index. Oh, cool. So exciting to tell our producers 1466 01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:53,640 about the features they can see on these modern apps. Thank you 1467 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:57,600 pod father and go podcasting. Holy crap. Go podcasting. 1468 01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:05,160 Oh, I got a new get a new boost jingle for you today. Oh, yes, 1469 01:34:05,310 --> 01:34:08,730 I've been I've been waiting for it. As you know. I'm very good 1470 01:34:08,730 --> 01:34:11,400 about this. I never listened to any of your clips or anything. 1471 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,880 But I did load it up into the player. Are we ready? Not yet. 1472 01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:16,170 Okay. Yeah, we got three we got 1473 01:34:18,210 --> 01:34:23,550 $1 from Boris Kaczynski. Not sure if I'm saying that right. 1474 01:34:23,580 --> 01:34:29,550 That's a monthly donation. Thank you, Boris. Boris. And got David 1475 01:34:29,550 --> 01:34:33,300 Mitas $10 Thank you, David. Monthly. 1476 01:34:34,650 --> 01:34:38,340 And Joseph Baraka $5. That's also a monthly Thank you, 1477 01:34:38,340 --> 01:34:42,210 Joseph. All right. Mr. Graham's Woolshed. 1478 01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:47,760 La Ah, 1479 01:34:49,260 --> 01:34:51,930 okay, these are two good man. Whoosh. 1480 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:58,200 Okay, booster grams. Everyone's favorite part of the show. Signs 1481 01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,970 of new growth. 33 Fat 1482 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,310 33,333 SATs through fountain. He says I did it all for the Toshi 1483 01:35:05,490 --> 01:35:05,850 de 1484 01:35:07,020 --> 01:35:11,970 Lancie. Very much nice. 3333 This is a decent boost, man. 1485 01:35:11,970 --> 01:35:13,620 That's a good one. Appreciate that. 1486 01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:19,950 Mike Newman, Mike sent me a really sweet email. And, uh, 1487 01:35:20,610 --> 01:35:23,790 Mike, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. It was very encouraging 1488 01:35:24,330 --> 01:35:28,920 to read his note this morning. Oh, nice. Yeah. Good guy, Mike, 1489 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,920 as soon as 22,104 SAS and 1490 01:35:33,540 --> 01:35:37,020 he says command line boost again. This isn't but this now 1491 01:35:37,020 --> 01:35:43,140 should add up to 2112. Oh, excellent. Rush boost. Yep. He 1492 01:35:43,140 --> 01:35:46,740 sent that through the command to the command line app and has is 1493 01:35:46,740 --> 01:35:50,670 called Type II type. Yes. So just showing up in our in our 1494 01:35:50,670 --> 01:35:53,550 daily reporting like who the hell was making Type II type? 1495 01:35:53,820 --> 01:35:54,450 Yeah. 1496 01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:58,560 Like what is type? What's type Ito? Boost 1497 01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:04,650 to SATs from Mike Newman. Oh, that's him testing his head 1498 01:36:04,650 --> 01:36:08,280 testing his plumbing. And he says go podcasting? Yeah, well 1499 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,310 I'm not gonna hit the jingle for two SATs bro. Yeah, you below 1500 01:36:11,310 --> 01:36:14,310 the lie the way do Dave. Bitcoin is it 1501 01:36:15,510 --> 01:36:24,510 41,758 went up like five grand just today? Yeah. What is I see 1502 01:36:24,510 --> 01:36:28,290 a straight green line. Right up my chart. I wasn't even paying 1503 01:36:28,290 --> 01:36:29,130 attention to it. 1504 01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:33,090 What do you think that was? What do you think's the deal? Pay no 1505 01:36:33,090 --> 01:36:35,790 attention to the financial markets, Please play it pay no 1506 01:36:35,790 --> 01:36:38,970 attention to the trillions of dollars. The Federal Reserve is 1507 01:36:38,970 --> 01:36:42,240 lending banks overnight. And for two weeks, three weeks pay no 1508 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:47,760 attention to the $300 trillion of derivatives. Pay no attention 1509 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:54,450 to the inflation. All the people that are commenting that Spotify 1510 01:36:54,450 --> 01:36:59,100 is stock is suffering because of people like pulling their music. 1511 01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:03,210 Oh no, that is not true. No. How about they have less users than 1512 01:37:03,210 --> 01:37:06,090 they expected? And they lost money and they're gonna lose 1513 01:37:06,090 --> 01:37:09,960 more even more money next year. And the whole thing is overblown 1514 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:14,490 to start off with the stock market is overvalued. Certainly 1515 01:37:14,490 --> 01:37:18,240 NASDAQ. I mean look, look at all the red that has happened since 1516 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,750 the beginning of the year all tons of stocks are down days. 1517 01:37:21,810 --> 01:37:27,960 This is not new for them. All of NASDAQ took just a serious dump 1518 01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:31,740 especially when Facebook when Facebook now today NASDAQ is up 1519 01:37:31,740 --> 01:37:35,820 200 But that's just a seesaw the thing here peloton stock surges? 1520 01:37:36,570 --> 01:37:40,050 Yeah, yeah, okay, after it flamed for it. So So yeah, until 1521 01:37:40,050 --> 01:37:43,380 someone crashes dies. And in a movie, oh, you got a heart 1522 01:37:43,380 --> 01:37:47,460 attack and the penalty in the movie stock drops 20%. Facebook 1523 01:37:47,460 --> 01:37:51,840 was down like 26%. Yeah. And you know, why is 1524 01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,810 it they lost users for the first time ever? What happened? They 1525 01:37:57,810 --> 01:38:01,440 lost $10 billion for the first time ever, not that they lost it 1526 01:38:01,770 --> 01:38:07,890 $10 billion revenue hit because of the iOS changes to how how 1527 01:38:08,610 --> 01:38:13,320 apps and Facebook has the SDK, everyone has Facebook's SDK. And 1528 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:17,670 that SDK, they severely limited what it was doing. You can only 1529 01:38:17,670 --> 01:38:20,850 imagine if you have a billion users let's just say they have a 1530 01:38:20,850 --> 01:38:25,740 billion fine $10 billion so that's at least 10 bucks ahead. 1531 01:38:26,820 --> 01:38:29,430 Every single person that they lost on you because Apple 1532 01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:33,060 decided not to give some information. I love it when I 1533 01:38:33,060 --> 01:38:36,330 hear James talking about tracking well that just work out 1534 01:38:36,330 --> 01:38:40,470 what I had to give to you. Okay, fine. They know everything they 1535 01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:44,820 profile you as a human being your your behavior, your habits, 1536 01:38:44,820 --> 01:38:47,370 your location, where you go, who you meet with who you're in 1537 01:38:47,370 --> 01:38:51,000 proximity with. These are the things that Apple turned off. 1538 01:38:51,780 --> 01:38:55,230 And it's $10 billion revenue hit. And that's why everyone got 1539 01:38:55,230 --> 01:39:00,960 hit. But when Snapchat piece of crap, they had they were they 1540 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,080 had positive numbers for the first time revenue numbers. 1541 01:39:04,350 --> 01:39:07,950 People like Snapchat most haven't figured out. They know 1542 01:39:07,950 --> 01:39:14,340 how to target. So they they popped up 60% 60 It's It's It's 1543 01:39:14,340 --> 01:39:19,710 disgusting. The whole thing is just disgusting. I mean, can we 1544 01:39:21,540 --> 01:39:24,780 So Microsoft, made like, 1545 01:39:25,890 --> 01:39:28,440 I don't know, they had like a record record profit to the 1546 01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:33,090 border. I got $125 billion in cash in the bank. 1547 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:41,820 Apple record quarter. Amazon record quarter mean, these guys 1548 01:39:41,850 --> 01:39:45,780 these tech companies are making more money than God right now. 1549 01:39:45,810 --> 01:39:47,130 Well, yes, no. 1550 01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,080 This Yes. But the real thing is 1551 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,170 they're buying back their own stock. 1552 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,700 Enriching the executives and shareholders. Well, I 1553 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:04,590 The reason I brought that up though, was we as a company, 1554 01:40:05,460 --> 01:40:08,040 have Microsoft Volume Licensing. 1555 01:40:09,179 --> 01:40:12,539 Not not like us index but in my day job company, we have 1556 01:40:13,980 --> 01:40:16,830 contracts with Microsoft. We get the word 1557 01:40:18,420 --> 01:40:23,220 back in like, early January, we got the word that Microsoft 1558 01:40:23,220 --> 01:40:27,540 licensing on March one is going up 20% across the board. Sure, 1559 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,550 because you know, supply chain issues. 1560 01:40:31,170 --> 01:40:36,660 This is Microsoft 365, office 365 All their cloud, all their 1561 01:40:36,660 --> 01:40:39,210 cloud licensing all their traditional on premise 1562 01:40:39,210 --> 01:40:42,990 everything everything up. 30%. So when are you moving to Linux? 1563 01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:47,970 In the company? Well, you can you can your business. You can't 1564 01:40:47,970 --> 01:40:51,420 it has to be Excel. It has to be word to be. Yeah, I remember 1565 01:40:51,420 --> 01:40:55,950 when, when I took my company public, it had to be WordPerfect 1566 01:40:57,420 --> 01:40:59,880 5.3 I believe. 1567 01:41:01,140 --> 01:41:04,500 That was the only WordPerfect version you were allowed to use 1568 01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:08,940 for sec SEC filings. All the lawyers used it. 1569 01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:16,770 Dos? Yeah. DOS, DOS DOS, it had the s one document all in 1570 01:41:17,970 --> 01:41:23,460 WordPerfect was it the Ford slash was X XL for the first 1571 01:41:23,970 --> 01:41:27,990 while it may still have it, it supports those slash commands 1572 01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:29,550 that Lotus 123 had. 1573 01:41:31,980 --> 01:41:36,450 I've never used them, but I know. You'd have like I was a 1574 01:41:36,450 --> 01:41:42,060 Macintosh lotus, jazz user, Lotus, Lotus, Jazz Jazz who came 1575 01:41:42,060 --> 01:41:45,060 on 18,000 floppies. you installed it on your Mac and 1576 01:41:45,060 --> 01:41:46,080 Lotus Giles. 1577 01:41:47,340 --> 01:41:51,030 First Net? Well, my first home network was Novell. 1578 01:41:52,440 --> 01:41:54,690 No no it wasn't my first my first one was 1579 01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,390 I forgot what they called it it was the door it was a das TSR 1580 01:42:00,390 --> 01:42:03,450 Terminate and Stay Resident program it would do would 1581 01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:05,100 communicate in the background all 1582 01:42:06,150 --> 01:42:10,260 in base to the head and bass two connectors the head the little 1583 01:42:10,890 --> 01:42:13,830 at you had to terminate them on the end. You know, you'd have a 1584 01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:14,250 run of 1585 01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:22,050 turn s in the head and we had these orangey monochrome screens 1586 01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:28,200 running I think it was das three dos three two or three one. And 1587 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:28,710 you had 1588 01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:37,650 the the the you had word was it WordStar Lotus 123 Yeah, yeah. 1589 01:42:38,460 --> 01:42:40,320 Man that's just that's like ancient 1590 01:42:43,980 --> 01:42:49,530 Oh yeah. Boost Yes. Chad Ferro 3333 through fountain Asia says 1591 01:42:49,710 --> 01:42:53,490 PIP you Oh, that's one I didn't have queued up I'm sorry. 1592 01:42:54,900 --> 01:42:57,330 I gotta, I gotta put that one in the rack. 1593 01:43:00,270 --> 01:43:04,200 Steven B through curio caster. He references He refers to 1594 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:08,550 himself as Steven B. Curio caster coder. There you go and 1595 01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:09,120 then you go 1596 01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,440 Adam, don't forget to use sovereign feeds instead of curio 1597 01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:16,920 caster RSS generator to publish your feeds. Oh, friend feeds, 1598 01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:21,150 has all the latest updates Securio caster RSS generator 1599 01:43:21,150 --> 01:43:23,880 will only be updated after I know I didn't screw anything up 1600 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,120 on sovereign fees. Okay, so I should try and screw it up and 1601 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:31,200 then if it doesn't work, then I go back to curio cast. That's 1602 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,370 between us Steven Bay. 1603 01:43:33,420 --> 01:43:35,820 Yeah, got it. Thank you very much for reminding me Stephen. 1604 01:43:35,940 --> 01:43:40,170 It's perfect. It's a nice layout too. I really like it. That's 1605 01:43:40,170 --> 01:43:44,460 1934 sets do interesting numerology. I don't know why I 1606 01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:45,000 chose that. 1607 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:51,750 Let's see 10,000 sets from Mike Hayden at red circle when he 1608 01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:54,690 sent it through curio caster and he says Good thing I May Day 1609 01:43:54,690 --> 01:43:55,890 sign that NDA. 1610 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:00,720 My lips are sealed Mike. 1611 01:44:01,950 --> 01:44:04,740 Say no more. Did you really sign an NDA? Now? You didn't sign? 1612 01:44:04,740 --> 01:44:10,470 No. No, you wouldn't do that. That I know what it means. 4400 1613 01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:15,540 sets from horn loaded and he threw fountain he says V four V 1614 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,410 Yes. all in caps. Thank you. Thank you very much. Boost 1615 01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:26,430 Woolshed karve hat. Sin is 22,222 SATs a humongous row of 1616 01:44:26,430 --> 01:44:30,930 ducks. Oh, does he have a note through curio caster and he's 1617 01:44:30,930 --> 01:44:32,250 just as ducks 1618 01:44:39,090 --> 01:44:46,380 via Vila the unpronounceable name sorry, the VI l le Devi 1619 01:44:46,380 --> 01:44:50,370 ever decide V V V V L. Ville 1620 01:44:51,390 --> 01:44:52,950 villain. Wait, hold on. 1621 01:44:55,710 --> 01:44:56,490 And now 1622 01:44:58,020 --> 01:44:59,970 it is time for Livia 1623 01:45:01,589 --> 01:45:04,439 Are you trying to check your accuracy by seeing if you can 1624 01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:08,669 match? Precisely what I'm doing Dave Jones. That is beautiful. I 1625 01:45:08,669 --> 01:45:08,999 love it. 1626 01:45:10,349 --> 01:45:15,719 Via send us 1001 stats. Thank you pod friend. He says I 1627 01:45:15,719 --> 01:45:18,779 understand that you Dave can't see any other way forward than 1628 01:45:18,779 --> 01:45:21,809 lightning BTC but I bet Brian of London can come up with an 1629 01:45:21,809 --> 01:45:22,469 alternative. 1630 01:45:23,670 --> 01:45:26,670 And you get a look Smiley. Oh, I bet he can't, but I bet he can 1631 01:45:26,670 --> 01:45:27,000 too. 1632 01:45:28,260 --> 01:45:30,900 I bet it's got something to do with hive. Just a 1633 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:36,720 dude's and it's 999 says through fountain and he says, rounding 1634 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,980 up all those one set booster grants. Thank you boosts. That's 1635 01:45:40,980 --> 01:45:44,250 how we do it. Oh, that's from Daniel Daniel. Yeah. Okay. Thank 1636 01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:44,670 you, Dan. 1637 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,790 2222 sets from Kyron. The mere mortals podcast big of the 1638 01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:55,980 devil, pod friend and he says thanks, legends. My goals for my 1639 01:45:55,980 --> 01:45:58,980 goals for February are to get the value for value podcast on 1640 01:45:58,980 --> 01:46:02,820 the Casta pod and to get some sort of node up and running. Oh, 1641 01:46:02,820 --> 01:46:03,750 Rola. No. 1642 01:46:04,830 --> 01:46:07,620 Boost. Wish me luck. quackquack. 1643 01:46:09,420 --> 01:46:12,000 Was it TOS yes road docks 1644 01:46:16,740 --> 01:46:20,310 Brian mozzie says 10,000 SAS new fountain and he says can't wait 1645 01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:23,670 to receive my Umbral so I can latch on to the podcasting 2.0 1646 01:46:23,670 --> 01:46:28,950 Freedom wrath. Yeah, yeah. That's right lash onto the raft, 1647 01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:31,830 baby. You got to read Snow Crash Dave. You got to read it. 1648 01:46:34,530 --> 01:46:37,620 It's really writing it. It's really well. It's really whether 1649 01:46:37,620 --> 01:46:39,690 you like it. Okay. I just wrote it down. 1650 01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,020 1111 SATs 1651 01:46:44,490 --> 01:46:47,910 through pot friend. This is anonymous. And the message says 1652 01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:52,350 great podcast. Well, thank you, whoever you are. Mysterious, 1653 01:46:52,350 --> 01:46:54,330 anonymous donor anonymous donor. 1654 01:46:55,410 --> 01:47:01,470 Sir Pete gave us 12,222 says. He says Don't just stand there 1655 01:47:01,470 --> 01:47:02,730 boost Yes. 1656 01:47:03,750 --> 01:47:05,130 Boost Instagram 1657 01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:09,750 propagate the message of podcasting 2.0 to investors, 1658 01:47:09,750 --> 01:47:13,350 developers and producers. By working the algos on LinkedIn. 1659 01:47:13,620 --> 01:47:16,410 Every day after the episodes drops, there's a fresh ready to 1660 01:47:16,410 --> 01:47:20,580 go post on LinkedIn. And it Yes, he does that every single 1661 01:47:20,610 --> 01:47:25,110 episode and I think it matters. I really appreciate it. LinkedIn 1662 01:47:25,110 --> 01:47:29,340 is an under utilized social media for a lot of people. I 1663 01:47:29,340 --> 01:47:32,580 refuse to go on it I have an account refused to go on it 1664 01:47:32,580 --> 01:47:37,920 because I just can't handle another social network. No, I 1665 01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:42,330 deleted my LinkedIn profile. I finally did because I just, I 1666 01:47:42,330 --> 01:47:45,600 just can't handle it. You're never going to your platen to 1667 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,420 put your paneling on hireable at this point anyway, um, you'd use 1668 01:47:48,420 --> 01:47:51,840 one of those Kooks? Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, you do 1669 01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,520 a podcast with that um, you guys you're done. 1670 01:47:55,350 --> 01:47:59,220 You better find out find a career with me or otherwise it's 1671 01:47:59,220 --> 01:48:02,850 over it's over. So I had this buddy there's a there's a real 1672 01:48:02,850 --> 01:48:07,080 prominent lawyer here in Alabama, Alexander Shannara. And 1673 01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:12,060 he's like a you know he's a what do you call it? One of the guys 1674 01:48:12,060 --> 01:48:14,400 that sue people for injury like injury large Personal Injury 1675 01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,880 ambulance chaser just Yeah, I was not Dallas trying not to 1676 01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:21,570 Thomas jet. No, these guys have the best commercials. Thomas. 1677 01:48:22,260 --> 01:48:25,500 I'm gonna fix. I'll get you millions of dollars. Well, he 1678 01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:31,230 calls himself the Alabama hammer. Exactly. Alabama hammer, 1679 01:48:31,230 --> 01:48:38,850 we'll get you paid. Yeah. So I knew a guy who a long time ago 1680 01:48:38,850 --> 01:48:42,180 that was going he was a lawyer. And he was going, he got offered 1681 01:48:42,180 --> 01:48:48,300 a job from from this firm. And all of his friends he got all of 1682 01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:51,630 his friends said don't do it. Because once you go and work for 1683 01:48:51,630 --> 01:48:54,480 this guy, you'll never work for any landlord anywhere else. 1684 01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:57,690 Yeah, you get blacklisted. Yeah. And 1685 01:48:59,100 --> 01:48:59,550 I don't 1686 01:49:00,630 --> 01:49:01,980 cannot reveal what he did. 1687 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:04,980 But he's making a lot more money. 1688 01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:07,800 Okay. 1689 01:49:10,140 --> 01:49:14,880 Cool. McCormick gave us 333 sets through fountain and he says I'm 1690 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,290 boosting while I'm 1691 01:49:17,970 --> 01:49:20,460 okay. Okay. Um 1692 01:49:23,490 --> 01:49:24,750 we may need to cut this out 1693 01:49:25,890 --> 01:49:27,600 or not? Yeah. 1694 01:49:28,770 --> 01:49:32,610 Yeah, I think so. Let me just start over here. 1695 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:38,970 We got a donation for 333 sets through fountain. And this 1696 01:49:38,970 --> 01:49:41,940 person says, I'm boosting you while delivering weed. 1697 01:49:44,940 --> 01:49:48,480 I don't think we have to edit that out. You don't Okay. He's 1698 01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:51,930 delivering it to my door for heaven's sake, a coma. 1699 01:49:53,790 --> 01:49:56,670 Okay, it's probably illegal. It's illegal. It's legal in some 1700 01:49:56,670 --> 01:50:00,000 states day if you don't know his situation. He may not even be in 1701 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,340 The US you may not even be weed. 1702 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:08,760 It may be actual ways, right? Just a big bag of weed you go 1703 01:50:11,849 --> 01:50:17,879 see, just Justin de Zhong from Michigan says first boost, boost 1704 01:50:17,879 --> 01:50:18,569 or die 1705 01:50:20,850 --> 01:50:24,150 that was 500 sets Welcome Welcome to the party power 1706 01:50:24,480 --> 01:50:29,010 booster die. Wow. Coming in with serious I like that idea 1707 01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:31,800 booster. Another t shirt opportunity. 1708 01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:39,810 Store die. Nomad Joe 750 says he says tick tock me more 1709 01:50:44,250 --> 01:50:50,190 and now it's time for some hot namespace talk. We haven't done 1710 01:50:50,190 --> 01:50:53,010 that in a while. Yeah, it's an old one. Yeah, it's a classic 1711 01:50:53,010 --> 01:50:54,000 from the archives. 1712 01:50:55,710 --> 01:50:58,680 Where this show is now old enough. We have archives Yes, we 1713 01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:03,060 do. We have archives. We're ready for a season tag. Season. 1714 01:51:04,740 --> 01:51:08,790 Cast Pelland gave us 3300 sets and through fountain he says he 1715 01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:11,730 says haha, the content of my nickname. Thanks. 1716 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,450 Now that part we might have to cut out if we go into that 1717 01:51:15,450 --> 01:51:17,910 again. Yeah, yeah, let's not do p LAN. No. 1718 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:23,880 1000 SATs from anonymous through breeze and it says Fletcher says 1719 01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:30,750 boost boost Fletcher that's not Fletcher. No. I don't think we 1720 01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:32,880 don't have a flood. We don't have a flood you're saying boost 1721 01:51:32,910 --> 01:51:34,410 now. Well, we all do. 1722 01:51:35,940 --> 01:51:39,000 That is quite an oversight oversight. I think yeah, there's 1723 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,930 no Fletcher boost not nothing I'm aware of. Caspi Lind again, 1724 01:51:42,930 --> 01:51:47,130 he gave us 1000 SATs. He says to give some details about my 1725 01:51:47,130 --> 01:51:52,050 nickname, it should be cheese from P land in English. P stands 1726 01:51:52,050 --> 01:51:53,760 for sugar beet in this case. 1727 01:51:55,530 --> 01:51:58,290 Okay, he's got a link here. I love that people can see the 1728 01:51:58,290 --> 01:52:03,900 links in blue sent the link in the booster gram. Yes. Cool. Oh, 1729 01:52:03,900 --> 01:52:07,140 wait, it's a picture. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna break every rule 1730 01:52:07,140 --> 01:52:09,780 and I'm going to click on this picture. And hope that this is 1731 01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:12,120 nothing nothing terrible. Oh, well, it's just a picture of 1732 01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,700 sugar beets. What happened to the good old days of goatse 1733 01:52:16,350 --> 01:52:17,190 go God. 1734 01:52:19,260 --> 01:52:23,700 Hey, kids, go and google that one. No place now. Okay, this is 1735 01:52:23,700 --> 01:52:26,310 sugar beets. I guess they're just laying on the ground sugar 1736 01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:30,060 beets big deal in Holland. Oh, are they? That's what people ate 1737 01:52:30,060 --> 01:52:34,890 during the World War Two the Hunger Winter 45 They would get 1738 01:52:34,890 --> 01:52:37,770 on their bicycles with wooden tires and bike for 100 1739 01:52:37,770 --> 01:52:41,190 kilometers just to get a sugar beet and then eat it with the 1740 01:52:41,940 --> 01:52:46,410 nettle soup with rocks. Not like this. I guess you can't 1741 01:52:47,610 --> 01:52:50,490 I guess there's no sugar cane that's not the right climate. So 1742 01:52:50,490 --> 01:52:54,390 you need meat and horses like it of course horses eat sugar beets 1743 01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:57,840 Sigit picture the sugar beet Thank you. I 1744 01:53:01,170 --> 01:53:02,400 put this in show notes. 1745 01:53:04,770 --> 01:53:08,010 He's pretty janky looking sugar beets are pretty nasty looking 1746 01:53:08,130 --> 01:53:11,130 good. Going into show notes for sure. Even putting them in our 1747 01:53:11,130 --> 01:53:16,230 folder for today. He says love the Dutch. I know. Boost boosts. 1748 01:53:16,260 --> 01:53:22,110 Yeah, boost anonymous. Another another flutter says boost some 1749 01:53:22,110 --> 01:53:24,930 but somebody somebody is politicking for a Fletcher 1750 01:53:24,930 --> 01:53:28,500 boost? Yeah, this is weird. It may be him. He may be 1751 01:53:28,500 --> 01:53:29,670 politicking himself. 1752 01:53:31,950 --> 01:53:34,740 And there's another one for another 1000 says Wow. somebody 1753 01:53:34,740 --> 01:53:35,580 really wants this 1754 01:53:36,660 --> 01:53:42,480 is all anonymous. Yellow zosky said he gave us 33,333 SATs. 1755 01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:47,640 He's from the consumer choice radio podcast. No. Good guy. 1756 01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:52,500 Longtime libertarian thinker found through fountain nap and 1757 01:53:52,500 --> 01:53:57,420 he says hello. Hello from Vax mandated Austria. Umbral is 1758 01:53:57,420 --> 01:54:00,870 booming. BTC Miner is hot and loud and podcaster wallets 1759 01:54:00,870 --> 01:54:04,740 banging Yeah. For non French francophones out there, check 1760 01:54:04,740 --> 01:54:10,950 out the podcast. Lim touch seriously. Let lemma Lyn lemon 1761 01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:13,380 lint in this okay, spell it for me. 1762 01:54:14,550 --> 01:54:15,270 Le s 1763 01:54:16,740 --> 01:54:22,290 Marlin pindus ma L e n t e n d u s 1764 01:54:23,970 --> 01:54:29,100 Valentijn Dawn tenders Lemma and tenders the misunderstood is 1765 01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:32,550 what that means. Yeah, okay. Everyone who just listened to me 1766 01:54:32,580 --> 01:54:33,840 misunderstood what I said. 1767 01:54:35,790 --> 01:54:39,840 Absolutely. That is a was onomatopoeia. Yeah. Oh my god a 1768 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:40,470 jingle for. 1769 01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,360 Between A that is the misunderstood between a French 1770 01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,330 Canadian and a Luxembourger on Francophone politics and 1771 01:54:51,330 --> 01:54:55,080 culture. That's actually pretty funny. I'll bet that it Yeah. 1772 01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:58,350 Especially with Alexa poser. I wish I could. I'm sure there's 1773 01:54:58,380 --> 01:54:59,970 no speaking English, we're Luxembourg. 1774 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,790 It's like a non Country. It's where everyone has their 1775 01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:06,000 banking. It's like 1776 01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:13,680 where do you have we have our Bahamas with no, no. What is our 1777 01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:18,330 LLC state here? beiden state? Oh Delaware Delaware. Yeah, this is 1778 01:55:18,330 --> 01:55:21,570 kind of like a Delaware of Europe. Saudi Ireland. Yeah. 1779 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,390 Well, you have I think you have a royal family and then bunch of 1780 01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:24,810 banks. 1781 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:29,820 Guys, you got a palace. You got a cool casino and a bunch of 1782 01:55:29,820 --> 01:55:33,420 banks and consumer choice radio if you want to hear crib. Yeah, 1783 01:55:33,750 --> 01:55:37,140 yeah, pick and vaping Wow, they're getting wild in 1784 01:55:38,250 --> 01:55:41,130 Luxembourg. Yeah, I like it. 1785 01:55:42,690 --> 01:55:46,350 He's a wildcat. This Umbral man people are digging this. This 1786 01:55:46,380 --> 01:55:51,030 Umbral is with Halle pad is made for podcasters. The new version 1787 01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:53,850 is a lot better. It's a lot more stable. It's very see I like the 1788 01:55:53,850 --> 01:56:00,870 14 for 14 Is it now? 1314 1213 1313 Yeah. John's BRT, 1789 01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:09,990 give us EU baller boost 49,490 sets Bala shot kala Blaze on em 1790 01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:11,460 Paulo nice. 1791 01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,910 And his messages to 1792 01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:17,220 that's it 1793 01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,760 really unsatisfying now but it's still good for me. Yeah. 1794 01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:27,750 stim are stemmer 42. 1795 01:56:28,890 --> 01:56:32,520 Gave us 1000 SATs and he says Tristan from fountain. Alright, 1796 01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:36,480 thank you. Thank you, steamer 42 John's VRT again with another 1797 01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:40,410 49,490 Shot call 20 1798 01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:43,710 give you 1799 01:56:45,870 --> 01:56:46,590 like each other. 1800 01:56:48,900 --> 01:56:52,140 And another one from John's VRT. 4949 1801 01:56:53,250 --> 01:56:56,880 No, that's not it's not about oh, he only gets one few. Yes. 1802 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:04,080 Just a little pick me up. Again. One of the boost is that this is 1803 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:07,860 better for after the big ball or it's mood boost. 1804 01:57:08,940 --> 01:57:13,320 Thanks for the boost. Okay, so Tim K. The Bootstrap bandit. Oh, 1805 01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:17,160 yeah. He gave us a bunch a little bit. A little bit 1806 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:19,260 donations, but I'm gonna read him though. Yeah. 1807 01:57:20,490 --> 01:57:22,530 Hi. 69. 1808 01:57:23,850 --> 01:57:26,820 Two emojis. I can't decipher. And 1809 01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:32,670 another high and a emoji this the finger pointing up. Okay, 1810 01:57:32,670 --> 01:57:35,850 great. Yes, me. Now this sounded to me like it was a nasty gram. 1811 01:57:37,020 --> 01:57:37,740 Speaker. 1812 01:57:38,820 --> 01:57:42,750 Pictures you can't decode. Yeah, a progressive nasty grandpa's 1813 01:57:42,750 --> 01:57:44,040 when that was yeah, gotcha. 1814 01:57:45,780 --> 01:57:50,370 See, John's BRT, again with 4949 and a few. 1815 01:57:52,290 --> 01:57:55,050 I think your P was better than I want that in the new heli pad 1816 01:57:55,050 --> 01:57:56,760 release you doing that? You do. 1817 01:57:57,960 --> 01:57:58,320 Okay. 1818 01:57:59,970 --> 01:58:03,720 Thank you. Yeah. The Pew is cool. You can also just from 1819 01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,300 time to time, do a bar and d. 1820 01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:11,010 State call random. Yeah, it wouldn't be fun if you're heavy 1821 01:58:11,010 --> 01:58:12,690 pad just one boost. 1822 01:58:14,010 --> 01:58:17,130 That is, that's a good one. That's just every now and you 1823 01:58:17,130 --> 01:58:19,740 can't you never know when it's going to happen. Well, how about 1824 01:58:19,740 --> 01:58:25,290 that's over over 10,000 SATs boost. You know, you've you've 1825 01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:29,130 you've already you're getting in on I've a PR request to have a 1826 01:58:29,130 --> 01:58:32,070 pull request ready to go. You're talking about I'm able curry 1827 01:58:32,070 --> 01:58:34,830 beat you to it because he's doing this doing this. Oh, 1828 01:58:34,830 --> 01:58:38,970 excellent. Oh, brilliant minds think alike. Only the good ones 1829 01:58:38,970 --> 01:58:42,390 can implement it though. That's not me. Everything everywhere. 1830 01:58:42,900 --> 01:58:48,390 Gary aren't our buddy. Through fountain he sent us 3141 SATs. 1831 01:58:48,660 --> 01:58:51,900 He says the last few weeks have shown why open podcasting is a 1832 01:58:51,900 --> 01:58:54,780 must. Hopefully some big players will embrace it once they 1833 01:58:54,780 --> 01:58:58,110 realize they can't dominate it. Gary aren't everything 1834 01:58:58,110 --> 01:59:01,350 everywhere daily. Thank you, Gary. And I've seen his posts 1835 01:59:01,350 --> 01:59:04,800 and I've seen his overall his overall messaging. Don't get too 1836 01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,460 hung up on the big boys, Gary. Yeah, don't get too hung. Don't 1837 01:59:08,460 --> 01:59:11,820 get too hung up on big shows using it don't get too it'll all 1838 01:59:11,820 --> 01:59:16,200 happen. This is you can't force it. It just takes time. The 1839 01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,140 moments when all of a sudden people hear about it are 1840 01:59:19,140 --> 01:59:21,840 magical. We're living one right now kind of 1841 01:59:23,130 --> 01:59:26,040 this is the groundswell and this is going to be more and more and 1842 01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:29,010 more of a don't get hung up on Apple do they're not going to do 1843 01:59:29,010 --> 01:59:30,990 it. Apple's not going to do it. Spotify is not going to do it. 1844 01:59:30,990 --> 01:59:32,820 Amazon's not gonna Google's not going to do it. 1845 01:59:33,900 --> 01:59:36,240 The author is going to do it as podcasters telling their 1846 01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,570 audiences to use a modern podcast app for all the reasons 1847 01:59:39,570 --> 01:59:43,470 we discussed. One thing I want to ask Gary is I've boost a 1848 01:59:43,470 --> 01:59:47,730 boost in his body and in his show, he says, leave me a review 1849 01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:51,000 or send me a question and I'll read it out on the show. And you 1850 01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:56,730 do. I've boosted him things. Some booster grabbed him, and 1851 01:59:56,730 --> 01:59:59,970 I'm I have not heard it on the show. And I need to 1852 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,790 hear it on the show. That's the best show. Yeah, yeah. 1853 02:00:03,899 --> 02:00:07,379 You have to that's you got to close the loop man. Closed loop. 1854 02:00:07,769 --> 02:00:11,159 I'm going to keep boosting you until I hear my message on your 1855 02:00:11,159 --> 02:00:16,139 show Gary boost. It's a boost sooner I'm going to boost Nami 1856 02:00:16,139 --> 02:00:17,279 you until I hear it. 1857 02:00:18,900 --> 02:00:22,950 Boost khaki I think is the term you're looking for. Now that 1858 02:00:22,950 --> 02:00:24,270 would be if we all boosted 1859 02:00:28,830 --> 02:00:31,470 alright tonight eight o'clock synchronized watches we all 1860 02:00:31,470 --> 02:00:36,180 boost Gary at the same time. It's a boost Kakei. This word 1861 02:00:36,180 --> 02:00:39,180 does not need to exist but it was wiped from the lexicon. I 1862 02:00:39,180 --> 02:00:42,600 saw a different one though I saw boosts chain from hug story. 1863 02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,590 Hashtag thanks, chain Well, I think you boost they're doing it 1864 02:00:46,590 --> 02:00:49,800 live. Okay, I think you boost and then you can boost to 1865 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:53,850 someone's boost. I gotta I gotta Carolyn Blaney and they're doing 1866 02:00:53,850 --> 02:00:55,860 crazy shit over there. I'm telling you this people are 1867 02:00:55,890 --> 02:00:59,310 running away with this stuff now. Well, I mean, Sir Spencer 1868 02:00:59,310 --> 02:01:02,250 and Abel Kirby and all that. They're all nuts. Tech totally 1869 02:01:02,250 --> 02:01:03,180 crazy. And that 1870 02:01:04,290 --> 02:01:07,890 we love them. This is what we need reckless behavior. Perfect 1871 02:01:07,890 --> 02:01:10,710 behavior. Hashtag reckless. Please run with scissors. It's 1872 02:01:10,710 --> 02:01:14,730 podcasting. 2.0 What could go wrong? That that's your shirt 1873 02:01:14,730 --> 02:01:15,090 right there. 1874 02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:20,400 That's your shirt. That's it. 1875 02:01:22,380 --> 02:01:25,770 Comic Strip blogger. rounding it out. He's the delimiter That's 1876 02:01:25,770 --> 02:01:30,270 right. We've reached the end. He's here. Yes. 10,033 says 1877 02:01:30,270 --> 02:01:33,090 through pod friend. He says greetings to podcast index.org. 1878 02:01:33,090 --> 02:01:36,720 Team. Thank you for your service to podcasting and you're warmly 1879 02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:41,070 invited to listen to our podcast entitled AI cooking. Read by 1880 02:01:41,070 --> 02:01:44,700 former BBC actor and current owner of four pubs in Kent. 1881 02:01:44,850 --> 02:01:47,490 Gregory William Forsythe Foreman yo 1882 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,200 that's it everybody boost when you can keep those numbers up. 1883 02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:57,810 It looks like a lot but it's not really. 1884 02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,040 Please check check your numbers. It looks like a lot but not 1885 02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:06,450 really. But we appreciate everybody extra. Who boosted 1886 02:02:06,450 --> 02:02:10,200 this week because all of your sets have been received and they 1887 02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:14,760 are now worth about 15% More than when you send them. The 1888 02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:18,720 donation said the booster gram segment is the longest way to 1889 02:02:19,140 --> 02:02:22,560 explain to get $20 in forever in the 1890 02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:28,350 guy standing with a cup has an easier job than we do. Yes. 1891 02:02:31,230 --> 02:02:34,620 I don't know if you what you wish you could even this less 1892 02:02:34,620 --> 02:02:35,910 than minimum wage if you weren't. 1893 02:02:37,500 --> 02:02:40,770 But we know from the way value for value works, though. I mean, 1894 02:02:40,770 --> 02:02:43,830 it always evens out. If you ask people to send what they think 1895 02:02:43,830 --> 02:02:47,940 it's worth. It always evens look, I've learned 1896 02:02:49,410 --> 02:02:52,380 the way I've lived is whenever I needed money, I just said okay, 1897 02:02:52,380 --> 02:02:55,050 it should it'd be cool to have some money to like pay the rent 1898 02:02:55,110 --> 02:02:59,490 and then shows up somehow. This has been my life. So I know that 1899 02:02:59,790 --> 02:03:02,370 you know we've got our expenses. Were kind of covering the 1900 02:03:02,370 --> 02:03:05,940 expenses sometimes a little bit more. We were good. 1901 02:03:07,020 --> 02:03:09,780 We could do a hell of a lot better. We could all will be 1902 02:03:09,780 --> 02:03:12,060 great to put some money in our pocket. But I don't see that 1903 02:03:12,060 --> 02:03:15,630 happening for a quarter for the foreseeable future net forever. 1904 02:03:18,180 --> 02:03:21,570 Did you see the hate mail that we got? Oh, no. Oh, no. What do 1905 02:03:21,570 --> 02:03:22,020 you mean? 1906 02:03:23,130 --> 02:03:26,400 No like it like 430 this afternoon? Oh crap, I missed it. 1907 02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,430 No, I'm going to anonymize it on the fly. But it is pretty funny. 1908 02:03:29,460 --> 02:03:29,850 Okay. 1909 02:03:31,860 --> 02:03:35,400 says, Hi, I'm contacting you today because my podcast listing 1910 02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:36,810 is not correct. Again. 1911 02:03:37,890 --> 02:03:41,250 My, my website should be blah, blah, blah. And my podcast feed 1912 02:03:41,250 --> 02:03:44,490 should be blah, blah, blah. I'm very frustrated that I have to 1913 02:03:44,490 --> 02:03:47,730 babysit your company to get my listing up to date is very 1914 02:03:47,730 --> 02:03:51,120 inconvenient. And if I have to keep babysitting your company to 1915 02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:54,330 make the correct changes, then you can pay me $20 an hour. 1916 02:03:54,510 --> 02:03:58,860 Since then, I would be kind of working for you. Perhaps you 1917 02:03:58,860 --> 02:04:01,650 should just let the user add their own website and RSS feeds 1918 02:04:01,710 --> 02:04:05,220 because your company can't seem to get anything right. Wow. This 1919 02:04:05,220 --> 02:04:08,340 is great. And you anonymizing this person this is nothing no 1920 02:04:08,340 --> 02:04:12,330 agenda way these people you call out by name and make a fun fun 1921 02:04:12,330 --> 02:04:15,630 deal out of it. This is hilarious. No, no. Well, well, 1922 02:04:15,630 --> 02:04:19,140 well, no, but we're really sorry that we once again our company, 1923 02:04:19,170 --> 02:04:22,830 our enormous Corporation. We're very sorry the company screwed 1924 02:04:22,830 --> 02:04:26,070 it up. But when in fact there's oh my god, Dave. We're getting 1925 02:04:26,070 --> 02:04:28,890 calls from the VC they can't believe that we've screwed it up 1926 02:04:28,890 --> 02:04:31,800 once again that like the on the phone like you guys here we got 1927 02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:33,780 people complaining. Yeah. 1928 02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:39,630 We're gonna have to go on Colbert and apologize. Yes. What 1929 02:04:39,630 --> 02:04:42,870 was the problem? What was the problem? And you $20 No, don't 1930 02:04:42,870 --> 02:04:46,920 do that. Our God. What was the problem? Just a reset needed on 1931 02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:49,680 his feed? They just moved to state and didn't do a redirect. 1932 02:04:49,710 --> 02:04:53,940 Oh, okay. But somehow it's our stupid, our stupid corporation 1933 02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:57,660 who can't get it together. That's great. Why doesn't 1934 02:04:57,660 --> 02:04:59,970 everybody understand bye bye. 1935 02:05:00,299 --> 02:05:04,409 By the way, the global hive mind that I changed my feed you are 1936 02:05:04,439 --> 02:05:07,799 Yes. Yes. And why doesn't everybody understand just by 1937 02:05:07,799 --> 02:05:10,769 looking at our website? We're not a big corporation. 1938 02:05:12,509 --> 02:05:16,259 It should be evident. It should be obvious to you. Yeah. 1939 02:05:18,300 --> 02:05:23,190 We try. We try. We try. We do try. And we fail. Ah, try again. 1940 02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:27,420 Long week for you, Mr. Dave. It is we doing this weekend I'm 1941 02:05:27,420 --> 02:05:29,790 going to do on this weekend. This weekend, I'm going to be 1942 02:05:29,790 --> 02:05:33,270 working on trying to get the index 1943 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:39,270 to be better about refreshing metadata in episodes. Oh, okay. 1944 02:05:39,300 --> 02:05:40,920 Yeah, so I messed it up. Yeah. 1945 02:05:42,060 --> 02:05:43,620 Let me just run through it real quick. 1946 02:05:44,850 --> 02:05:51,510 is, so the issue is just purely, it's some technical debt that I 1947 02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:55,710 have to go and fix. And I was in a hurry yesterday from being 1948 02:05:55,710 --> 02:05:59,010 basically I wasn't explaining this well. But what I was trying 1949 02:05:59,010 --> 02:06:01,110 to say is that 1950 02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:06,630 there's a performance, excuse me, there's not a there's not an 1951 02:06:06,630 --> 02:06:09,990 agreed upon way within within the world within the world of 1952 02:06:09,990 --> 02:06:16,710 RSS. To know, to do this, to say that a feed has been an item has 1953 02:06:16,710 --> 02:06:18,300 changed, you really 1954 02:06:19,410 --> 02:06:20,460 just have to 1955 02:06:23,730 --> 02:06:26,490 what am I trying to say that you can tell the feed has changed, 1956 02:06:26,670 --> 02:06:31,440 but there's not an accepted way to know that an item has 1957 02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:36,990 changed. That also does not introduce a lot of, of false 1958 02:06:36,990 --> 02:06:41,910 positive stuff. And so there's a lot of feed generators out there 1959 02:06:41,910 --> 02:06:46,380 that, that update their, their feed content dynamically. 1960 02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:51,480 Right, and it will really screw you up, because you will end up 1961 02:06:52,620 --> 02:06:57,300 sucking in and doing in spending all of this performance time 1962 02:06:57,300 --> 02:07:00,390 hammering your database on updating items that really are 1963 02:07:00,390 --> 02:07:03,930 just these, these non-systemic is setting a new timestamp for 1964 02:07:03,930 --> 02:07:07,470 you automatically or something screws up your aggregation i Oh, 1965 02:07:07,470 --> 02:07:10,020 hey, I've been through this with you for a decade, my friend? 1966 02:07:10,140 --> 02:07:13,320 Yes, I know, I know what you're saying. I know the pain. One an 1967 02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:14,880 example of this, go look at 1968 02:07:15,930 --> 02:07:18,960 Librivox. Their RSS feeds are terrible. 1969 02:07:20,250 --> 02:07:23,940 But, but they're necessary. I mean, Librivox, we have, you 1970 02:07:23,940 --> 02:07:26,700 know, we need those things in the index. Those are important. 1971 02:07:27,750 --> 02:07:34,470 But they're, these are bad. So one. So what made the trade off 1972 02:07:34,500 --> 02:07:39,750 early on at the very beginning to performance reasons, because 1973 02:07:39,750 --> 02:07:43,260 we don't have a lot of money to spend on server horsepower. A 1974 02:07:43,260 --> 02:07:48,300 made the trade off of saying, I'm not going to update the 1975 02:07:48,450 --> 02:07:54,090 episode metadata. Unless it's something like title. I think 1976 02:07:54,090 --> 02:07:57,840 that may be the only thing. And the reason is because we didn't 1977 02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:00,600 have a big enough database server to handle right. Just all 1978 02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,810 the data, just the data, the pure data. Yeah, that's just no 1979 02:08:03,810 --> 02:08:08,760 agenda Show Notes alone. Yeah. And so what I've done is, I had 1980 02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,100 started working on this about three months ago. 1981 02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:17,730 And then dropped it because we got a lot of other stuff going 1982 02:08:17,730 --> 02:08:18,030 on. 1983 02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:22,620 And Hello, Pat and a lot of stuff. So now I'm going to get 1984 02:08:22,620 --> 02:08:27,570 back to now realize when I went back to it yesterday, that I had 1985 02:08:27,570 --> 02:08:30,390 gotten further along with the code than I thought I had so 1986 02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:34,860 good. is really one of those pleasant surprises. Yeah. All 1987 02:08:34,860 --> 02:08:36,600 right. I see what I did here. Okay. 1988 02:08:37,650 --> 02:08:40,230 I haven't with my code all the time. I go back to my old code. 1989 02:08:40,230 --> 02:08:42,660 I'm so happy. You're AppleScript Yeah, right. 1990 02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,710 What's this MAC drive? It's trying to act. 1991 02:08:48,510 --> 02:08:51,240 So anyway, that that's, that's something I'm gonna be working 1992 02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,420 on this week. And I hope within Hey, man, why don't you Why 1993 02:08:54,420 --> 02:08:55,890 don't we Why don't you take 1994 02:08:57,420 --> 02:08:59,940 some money out of the node and go take your wife out for 1995 02:08:59,940 --> 02:09:01,710 dinner? Yes. 1996 02:09:03,150 --> 02:09:05,910 paid directly from the node. Yeah, no, of course you have to 1997 02:09:05,910 --> 02:09:09,120 use breeze and cook it up and ran into an offer to pay them in 1998 02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:13,410 SATs but take your wife. Take your wife out to dinner. 1999 02:09:14,490 --> 02:09:17,340 I should just do that and show when the waiter comes for the 2000 02:09:17,340 --> 02:09:21,180 bill. You just say my breeze? No, no, no, this is what you do. 2001 02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:24,750 Okay, you ready? So obviously you can't take any money because 2002 02:09:24,750 --> 02:09:27,720 we don't have any to give. But here's what you do. Take her out 2003 02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:30,870 nice restaurant. And when the bill comes you say baby this was 2004 02:09:30,870 --> 02:09:32,220 from podcasting? 2.0 2005 02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:40,170 just say just say it fuck yeah, it's not it's not no but just in 2006 02:09:40,170 --> 02:09:44,760 life credits it is like credit. Karma. You got lots of good 2007 02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:49,500 karma. Baby all those hours I spent writing code in the in the 2008 02:09:49,500 --> 02:09:51,510 closet. A slow eat slow 2009 02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,890 No, no, you know, heavy on the one. Just a little bit. All 2010 02:09:58,890 --> 02:10:00,000 right, I'm gonna let you go. 2011 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,600 Oh man, we both got it. 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