Episode 117: Inscrutable

100:00:00,659 --> 00:00:06,269podcasting trombone over January13 2023, episode 117 We're200:00:06,269 --> 00:00:13,739inscrutable. Well, hello, onceagain, it's Friday the 13th Time300:00:13,739 --> 00:00:17,879for a board meeting ofpodcasting 2.0, where we discuss400:00:17,879 --> 00:00:21,389everything that's happening withthe advanced podcasting, the500:00:21,389 --> 00:00:25,139future of passive podcastswithin his gear. Now, of course,600:00:25,319 --> 00:00:28,199we'll talk about the namespace.I think we'll definitely discuss700:00:28,199 --> 00:00:32,099what's going on podcast indexdot social, and I'm Adam curry800:00:32,099 --> 00:00:35,129here in the heart of the TexasHill Country in Alabama. Mr.900:00:35,129 --> 00:00:38,099helipad himself now withBirmingham brunches. Say hello1000:00:38,099 --> 00:00:41,429to my friend on the other endMr. Dave Jones.1100:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,310You call me eating a tease?1200:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,030Well, you know the timing of theopening. I mean, I know I1300:00:48,030 --> 00:00:51,390totally misjudged this eat yourcheese on your own time.1400:00:52,170 --> 00:00:53,040Okay, all right. I'm1500:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,500good. Not getting that I get it.I'm not your keys. Not your1600:00:55,500 --> 00:00:57,000cheese, bro. Who's1700:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,150seen the prize speaking ofspeaking of food, have you seen1800:01:03,870 --> 00:01:07,920egg? Egg pocalypse? The eggshort the national egg shortage1900:01:07,950 --> 00:01:10,590Oh yeah. Oh, we discussed it ingreat length on no agenda2000:01:10,590 --> 00:01:12,510yesterday. You bet I'll see I'm2100:01:12,510 --> 00:01:15,120a day late and $1 show and Ican't listen to Thursday's no2200:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,630agenda so I never know whatyou've already covered. Well, we2300:01:18,630 --> 00:01:21,000had the backyard chickens camein handy though.2400:01:21,150 --> 00:01:25,950You know so. So yes, we were upto like eight bucks a dozen here2500:01:25,950 --> 00:01:30,480for for eggs at the at the hebwas an interesting timing for2600:01:30,510 --> 00:01:34,200the Dvorak publishing company torelease the too many eggs book.2700:01:35,190 --> 00:01:37,920Not an issue. The appendix AVolume2800:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,920Two not enough eggs. But it wasreally based upon them having2900:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,380chickens and they just they hadtoo many chickens in there for3000:01:43,410 --> 00:01:46,230video chickens lay an egg everysingle day. And if you got 103100:01:46,230 --> 00:01:48,870chickens you know at the end ofthe week, you got 70 eggs to3200:01:48,870 --> 00:01:51,060deal with. That's a lot unlessyou have a big family.3300:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,660Okay, we have two chickens. Wehad three one of them got killed3400:01:54,660 --> 00:01:57,960by the hawk. Yeah, for that.Remember that? So we have we3500:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,440have two but sometimes theysometimes they produce one egg a3600:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,560day. Sometimes they producethree so we're averaging two two3700:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,410eggs a day. So by the end of theweek, we have a we have a3800:02:07,410 --> 00:02:09,390doesn't it? Taenia doesn'tawake.3900:02:09,809 --> 00:02:13,439How many know how many chickensyou have three to Christina4000:02:13,439 --> 00:02:17,249really, really wants to havechickens? I'm like, Do you know4100:02:17,249 --> 00:02:19,649what that entails? And it's notjust like you have some fun4200:02:19,649 --> 00:02:22,799chickens. And just go out therewith your little basket in the4300:02:22,799 --> 00:02:26,159morning. Cloudy daddy down.Exactly. It's effortless. No.4400:02:27,029 --> 00:02:29,789hassles. The chickens areassholes. They do not want you4500:02:29,789 --> 00:02:32,429rooting around getting theireggs. At least the ones that I4600:02:32,429 --> 00:02:32,879had.4700:02:33,510 --> 00:02:35,520Eyes are Chill, man. totallychill.4800:02:35,550 --> 00:02:38,580Well, you got weaselseverywhere. Want to come and eat4900:02:38,580 --> 00:02:43,500them. We have a dog that wouldprobably eat him. Yeah, I'm like5000:02:43,500 --> 00:02:45,780you have no you're good, man.You can do this. backyard5100:02:45,780 --> 00:02:46,290chickens.5200:02:48,060 --> 00:02:49,890You're not on my side. DaveJones5300:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,780will never touch these chickens.We just we just those have food5400:02:54,780 --> 00:02:57,420in there. Make sure they getwater. And they just give us5500:02:57,660 --> 00:03:00,810they give us beautiful that youhave a cool brown eggs if you5600:03:00,810 --> 00:03:05,280have a coupe form. Yeah. So it'sjust like a chicken tractor. So5700:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,900you can have like a it's like aa frame portable thing. And you5800:03:09,900 --> 00:03:12,390just push it around the yard.You just move it around every5900:03:12,810 --> 00:03:13,290Wow. Okay,6000:03:13,290 --> 00:03:15,810so you'd let them poop in onespot and they move it to another6100:03:15,810 --> 00:03:16,230spot.6200:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,600Yeah. And then the day is slowlycomposts your entire yard and6300:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,320makes it beautiful.6400:03:22,470 --> 00:03:23,220Oh, I6500:03:23,219 --> 00:03:26,849see. Yeah. Yeah, it's great.There is easy, man. There's so6600:03:26,849 --> 00:03:27,959you have children around6700:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,570the house who can afford to dothat? You know who's going to be6800:03:30,570 --> 00:03:32,400doing it? If we'd have chickenshere? It'd be me.6900:03:32,430 --> 00:03:38,010Yeah, you Yeah. You and Phoebe?Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we'll be7000:03:38,010 --> 00:03:40,890intently watching waiting forone of the chickens to she will7100:03:40,890 --> 00:03:42,870be all over all over in escape.And7200:03:44,069 --> 00:03:46,349although I have to say you know,we did that three week boot7300:03:46,349 --> 00:03:48,029camp, man. I am impressed.7400:03:48,750 --> 00:03:49,830What do you mean boot camp?7500:03:50,250 --> 00:03:52,530We sent Phoebe to a three weekbootcamp. Oh,7600:03:52,530 --> 00:03:54,060yeah. You told me about that.All right.7700:03:54,090 --> 00:03:56,820I'm impressed. Is she is in7800:03:56,819 --> 00:03:58,349not barking. Oh, no,7900:03:58,380 --> 00:04:01,440no, it's she's, well, she has acommand for that. You know, she8000:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,800can bark and she I want her tobark if there's something that8100:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,590to bark about. And if I sayquiet then she needs to stop8200:04:07,590 --> 00:04:11,250barking that we have about a 60%hit rate on that. Everything8300:04:11,250 --> 00:04:15,390else. Everything else is almost100 Like Phoebe come she can be8400:04:15,390 --> 00:04:19,830halfway like a football fieldaway. She'll come. Well, yeah,8500:04:19,830 --> 00:04:21,810no, that's that was surprising.8600:04:22,380 --> 00:04:24,090So how old is Phoebe?8700:04:24,090 --> 00:04:27,240I think about five I'm not sureexactly. And she's always been8800:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,110an outdoor ranch dog. You know,God knows what her what our8900:04:31,110 --> 00:04:37,230history is. And my favorite isplace. She has a little bed you9000:04:37,230 --> 00:04:40,440know raised when it was raisedbeds. And she right away. She'll9100:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,960run over to it she lays down onand she knows that's where she9200:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,130has to stay. So when people comein. We had eight people over the9300:04:47,130 --> 00:04:49,800other night including thepastor's wife who Phoebe tried9400:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,490to bite last time fantan Oh,that's what sent her to boot9500:04:53,490 --> 00:04:54,330camp believe.9600:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,020Yes, first impressions aregreat.9700:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,340But we didn't under Stan is thatwe thought she was just calm but9800:05:02,340 --> 00:05:05,160she was really the opposite ofcalm and just getting really9900:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,010more nervous and nervous. Andthen when people are leaving and10000:05:08,010 --> 00:05:10,770standing around her and go byPhoebe and put your your your10100:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,310your, your palm down on top ofher head. She's like, No, no,10200:05:14,310 --> 00:05:17,610no, no, no, no, she didn'treally bite. She It's scary.10300:05:17,610 --> 00:05:20,940It's scary for anyone. 200 Sure,yeah. And 10 pound dog, you10400:05:20,940 --> 00:05:22,260know. Anyway,10500:05:22,710 --> 00:05:25,110now she's been Is This thehardest thing to tell people?10600:05:25,110 --> 00:05:25,620It's like,10700:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,270don't touch my cute dog.10800:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,119Yeah, I promise. I promise youmy dog is very sweet. It's like10900:05:33,209 --> 00:05:37,769it's just the sheer size of itis intimidating in tears.11000:05:38,399 --> 00:05:41,249Well to see the problem isPhoebe has such a cute face and11100:05:41,249 --> 00:05:44,519was like ah, and they just wanta hugger and rubber and11200:05:44,519 --> 00:05:48,539everything and you know then ifshe if she makes you know, she11300:05:48,719 --> 00:05:50,909opens her mouth she got ahealthy bark you know? It'll11400:05:50,969 --> 00:05:52,709it'll change your mind realquick.11500:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,640It was a trap dog. Oh, no.11600:05:57,269 --> 00:06:00,719Well, this is how we got trappedinto take into saving her.11700:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,950Oh, oh, yeah. Yes, the trapYeah.11800:06:07,470 --> 00:06:10,560We begin with a battle overpaternity leave.11900:06:11,010 --> 00:06:14,790maternity leave. I deserve it.Yeah, listen, man. I should have12000:06:14,790 --> 00:06:19,110this day off. I have privilegedI have two beautiful Yeah, this12100:06:19,110 --> 00:06:22,230unit. This is a fact whenLaborat when you rescue a dog,12200:06:22,740 --> 00:06:27,240then you're like, you know theheroes of anywhere. So Fletcher12300:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,440made this song formula.12400:06:29,310 --> 00:06:30,240You get cred12500:06:30,330 --> 00:06:35,520is what it was. Just what it wascrap dog crap dog like a trap12600:06:35,520 --> 00:06:35,910baby.12700:06:37,860 --> 00:06:40,080Your doggy daddy is what youare.12800:06:40,740 --> 00:06:43,470Yeah, you take her anywhere andoh, what a beautiful dog12900:06:43,470 --> 00:06:46,260yesterday. She's a rescue. Oh,can I have sex with you? I mean,13000:06:46,260 --> 00:06:52,410that's literally how it goes.Even if we get one from from an13100:06:52,410 --> 00:06:56,400official dealer next time norescue. Sorry. Dealer told us13200:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,230what they are. 1000s of dollarsyou get interviewed. I don't13300:07:01,230 --> 00:07:01,890like that at all.13400:07:02,399 --> 00:07:05,969You get credit. You get streetcred for that. He got all over13500:07:05,969 --> 00:07:06,479the place.13600:07:06,539 --> 00:07:09,269She's going she's about to eatsomeone's dog. Um, so she's13700:07:09,299 --> 00:07:12,119she's a rescue. Okay. It's allright here. She can I think13800:07:12,120 --> 00:07:19,080you get more cred on I think youget more street cred. Today for13900:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,440a for a rescue dog than you dofor adopting a child.14000:07:24,870 --> 00:07:26,970I think you're right. I thinkyou're right.14100:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,160You're like, oh, yeah, weadopted and they're like, Okay,14200:07:29,370 --> 00:07:34,020that's great. That you say yeah,get a rescue dog. Oh, it's so14300:07:34,020 --> 00:07:36,450beautiful. Y'all are awesome.14400:07:36,810 --> 00:07:37,770You're going to heaven.14500:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,280You're gonna have crowns.14600:07:41,910 --> 00:07:45,780Speaking of which I set uppastor Jimmy here in the bridge14700:07:45,780 --> 00:07:50,010church in Fredericksburg withhis first with this podcast.14800:07:50,820 --> 00:07:53,310And what is the content of thispodcast? His sermons?14900:07:53,790 --> 00:07:59,070No, no, no, he's doing a podcastwith the dame a net his his wife15000:07:59,610 --> 00:08:03,210and it's called well let me tellI don't want to misquote it.15100:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,800I'll tell you exactly what itis. It does about 45 minutes15200:08:09,660 --> 00:08:13,770once a week why is it Why iscurio caster not happening for15300:08:13,770 --> 00:08:15,900me? Hello curio caster15400:08:17,430 --> 00:08:18,390curio15500:08:18,420 --> 00:08:22,140Hello curio there we go Hellocurio cash it's called living up15600:08:22,140 --> 00:08:29,100in a down world Oh yeah, no Ohno, I I hooked him up I got Jeff15700:08:29,100 --> 00:08:31,800Smith to do to do an openingjingle hey15800:08:37,589 --> 00:08:45,989no know. He's like right out ofthe gate. first podcast. This is15900:08:45,989 --> 00:08:53,879too much privilege. He's got toearn it the hard way. So I16000:08:53,879 --> 00:08:57,029expect to hear Okay, welcome toour podcast16100:08:57,420 --> 00:09:01,290close in. Very interesting. Yousay that because of course, I16200:09:01,290 --> 00:09:03,300said look, I'm going to put thefirst couple of them together16300:09:03,300 --> 00:09:06,330for you. You know, I'll get thesound right. They have some16400:09:06,330 --> 00:09:08,460issues with you know, the roomwas a little gloomy. He's a16500:09:08,460 --> 00:09:15,630musician so he understands doingstuff. But yeah, he This isn't16600:09:15,630 --> 00:09:18,330this is my main note to himbefore you start the show. You16700:09:18,330 --> 00:09:21,120gotta listen to the jingle andget into the mood here.16800:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,090This is Jimmy Pruitt and AnnettePruitt and we are living up and16900:09:30,210 --> 00:09:32,190down world's not in the mood.17000:09:32,879 --> 00:09:35,489He's not quite in the groove notin the groove. Exactly.17100:09:36,990 --> 00:09:40,500You gotta listen to 100% Retroto get go and get blood pumping.17200:09:40,980 --> 00:09:44,340So I you know, so I said look, Iwant you to learn how to watch17300:09:44,340 --> 00:09:46,200this. I want to learn how to doeverything I want to do I want17400:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,720to learn how to do everything.And he wants value for value and17500:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,530everything going on. So I saywhy don't you try rss.com17600:09:52,620 --> 00:09:58,260Because they have a real simplepartnership with with Albie, and17700:09:58,260 --> 00:10:00,360you'll be able to set any sayall that went well. I'll set it17800:10:00,390 --> 00:10:06,930all up and everything. And thenwhen it came to transcripts, it17900:10:06,930 --> 00:10:12,720was very confusing. I don't knowif rss.com is doing them, right,18000:10:12,750 --> 00:10:16,590because they have this box andyou're supposed to paste it in18100:10:16,590 --> 00:10:21,870there. And so I random URL ofthe file No, no, the trans the18200:10:21,870 --> 00:10:25,560transcript. And it's very thinand it's very unclear if that's18300:10:25,560 --> 00:10:31,170supposed to be an SRT file orwhat it is. So I basically baked18400:10:31,170 --> 00:10:34,680an SRT file. So here you go.Paste it now it doesn't show up.18500:10:35,070 --> 00:10:38,430So I'm not sure I'm not evensure if they if they if they18600:10:38,430 --> 00:10:42,750have it as an actual if they'reimplementing it correctly, it18700:10:42,750 --> 00:10:45,510was disturbing. So I'm I got tofigure out,18800:10:45,930 --> 00:10:49,920but here we go living up in adown world. Federal index.18900:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,710That's That's all. Downside. 00419000:10:52,740 --> 00:10:57,930By the way, very pleasant. He hepublished the first episode19100:10:58,170 --> 00:11:02,730showed up through the magic ofpod ping showed up on the index,19200:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,260like within five minutes.19300:11:04,860 --> 00:11:08,460So you did so you didn't evenadd the feed to the index? Nope.19400:11:08,490 --> 00:11:09,930Nope. sucked it in sucked19500:11:09,930 --> 00:11:14,070in and right away. That was thatwas very pleasant. live inside19600:11:14,070 --> 00:11:15,330see one split?19700:11:17,220 --> 00:11:20,130I think that well, that splitwill be for Jeff Smith probably19800:11:20,610 --> 00:11:26,280says living up and down world isthe split. Interesting. Okay.19900:11:26,310 --> 00:11:26,670Oh, maybe20000:11:26,670 --> 00:11:29,070Oh, no. Oh, wait, wait, wait,no, maybe there's no split in20100:11:29,070 --> 00:11:31,440there that that I got to work onall that. I don't think the20200:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,370split is in yet.20300:11:32,940 --> 00:11:36,360And on that's Well, this bringsup a good point. Because I'm20400:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,300exploring this, this newpodcast, you know, like, because20500:11:39,300 --> 00:11:42,720it's when you see the money, wesee the birth of a new podcast,20600:11:42,720 --> 00:11:48,540it's a time of joy. And yes.exploration. And it's20700:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,560interesting to me that I wonderif rss.com can do splits. See,20800:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,870that's gonna be the issue. Well,forget20900:11:54,870 --> 00:11:58,050the split for a second. Andforget, Okay, forget and forget21000:11:58,050 --> 00:12:03,480the split the transcripttranscript is it's, it's wrong.21100:12:04,020 --> 00:12:07,440And and you know, now I'm kindof regretting should we should21200:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,800I've sent them to rss.com?Because if they can't do splits,21300:12:13,650 --> 00:12:14,310you know, let's21400:12:14,310 --> 00:12:16,020see. Let me look in21500:12:16,050 --> 00:12:17,940what we don't have. We don'thave to deconstruct the whole21600:12:17,940 --> 00:12:20,070thing. What I did21700:12:20,100 --> 00:12:24,090do, though, here's it here's aokay, they are they've taken the21800:12:24,090 --> 00:12:24,960transcript.21900:12:25,769 --> 00:12:28,739And the jam, they're insomewhere else haven't? They've,22000:12:28,739 --> 00:12:29,159it's got22100:12:29,160 --> 00:12:35,460a URL of its ownapollo.rss.com/transcriptions/seven 72911.22200:12:35,490 --> 00:12:43,290Okay. So then the type is, istext slash plain? Which is, but22300:12:43,290 --> 00:12:44,730if you Okay, we just22400:12:45,450 --> 00:12:48,480the SRT file with the with thetime codes.22500:12:49,170 --> 00:12:52,080So here's a here's a, here's abig problem with this22600:12:52,080 --> 00:12:59,010transcript. Because if you clickif you go to that URL, the only22700:12:59,010 --> 00:13:06,510what you get is a is a string oftext that says https colon slash22800:13:06,510 --> 00:13:10,380slash keys dot openpgp.org/with. This there's no22900:13:10,410 --> 00:13:14,430transcript here. It's just aURL. Wow. Okay. Well, that's not23000:13:14,430 --> 00:13:17,220somebody pasted something wronginto a box is what it looks like23100:13:17,220 --> 00:13:17,670to me.23200:13:18,990 --> 00:13:23,760Well, I'm gonna have to diveinto it. Okay. Because I said23300:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,530just as not a private key ifsomething23400:13:27,420 --> 00:13:28,890wouldn't be my private key.23500:13:30,030 --> 00:13:33,570What even is this? What is whatI don't know is that open PGP?23600:13:34,470 --> 00:13:40,440I don't know. I know I copiedthe I sent them the transcript23700:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,780from otter.ai23800:13:43,560 --> 00:13:47,670If this is otters transcriptotter is is got brain damage23900:13:47,700 --> 00:13:49,590because this is not This isweird.24000:13:49,620 --> 00:13:53,580Okay. Well, that's all stuff Igot to look at. Okay. But24100:13:53,580 --> 00:13:58,560anyway, yeah, there's no splitsis a problem. That's a problem.24200:13:59,009 --> 00:14:00,509Maybe they can maybe they can'texplain.24300:14:00,540 --> 00:14:03,300I honestly I don't I haven't alot. I mean, I haven't done he24400:14:03,300 --> 00:14:05,490did it all himself, which I'mreally happy. You know, it's24500:14:05,490 --> 00:14:08,040like, oh, man, that that worked.I'm just kind of walking him24600:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,330through when he has a question.But we have a we have a call24700:14:12,330 --> 00:14:13,590setup for Monday.24800:14:14,070 --> 00:14:17,940Okay, Nathan, Nathan gather Ijust posted here's what the24900:14:17,940 --> 00:14:22,110rss.com Transcript UI looks likeadd a transcript to your episode25000:14:22,110 --> 00:14:24,780that will be included in yourRSS feed and displayed on your25100:14:24,780 --> 00:14:29,190public episode Page Check outthis post rss.com on how to25200:14:29,190 --> 00:14:31,200transcribe your episodes forfree25300:14:31,350 --> 00:14:35,520nobody down the below it saysyou can use otter so I did it25400:14:35,520 --> 00:14:41,640and I sent him the text the fulltext of the of the SRT file with25500:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,390the time codes every two linesthe way I do it for everything25600:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,560that did not end up in the rightspot, okay, that we got25700:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,570stuff to work on anyway. It wasreasonably pleasant. But just25800:14:54,570 --> 00:14:57,150hadn't figured out I hadn't donethe I hadn't looked into the25900:14:57,150 --> 00:15:00,000split yet. But I have to do thatfor Jeff Smith because he did26000:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,060The opening and that's the deal,right? If he gets a percentage,26100:15:04,410 --> 00:15:11,340let's see and value for value hecan rss.com do splits in the26200:15:11,340 --> 00:15:16,440value blog. Real time I'm askingAlberto if rss.com can do26300:15:16,440 --> 00:15:16,920splits.26400:15:16,950 --> 00:15:20,490Dred Scott says if you open thePGP key and notepad, it's Adam26500:15:20,490 --> 00:15:25,830C's public key word. He probablytook26600:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,570you emailed him the transcriptand he copied and pasted26700:15:30,630 --> 00:15:40,110my public your public key. Jesushelped me out Holy Spirit. Bring26800:15:40,110 --> 00:15:42,510me some solace here. To work onthat.26900:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,210Very public key into atranscript. Water into one But27000:15:48,210 --> 00:15:51,540isn't it interesting how, howthings can you know how people27100:15:51,540 --> 00:15:54,600interpret stuff, right? It'slike landing the plane Tesla27200:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,810teaching the stewardess how tofly the plane. Oh, anyway.27300:15:59,310 --> 00:16:01,080I've done Microsoft FlightSimulator.27400:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,070Anyway, you know who's not goingto have gonna have a problem27500:16:08,070 --> 00:16:11,310with any of that. Oh, wait,before I go there before I27600:16:11,310 --> 00:16:14,850wanted to set the recordstraight. I made a comment on27700:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,440last week's pod news weeklyreview with James cribben. And27800:16:19,440 --> 00:16:26,400Sam Sethi. And Jamesmisinterpreted that the story27900:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,300was that there are some hostingcompanies who are serving a28000:16:30,300 --> 00:16:36,570separate RSS version to Spotify.That includes chapters in the28100:16:36,570 --> 00:16:40,920way Spotify wants them. Yeah,with the dumb marker thing. And28200:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,370my comment was, that's rude. Andit's counterproductive to28300:16:44,370 --> 00:16:47,520everything we're doing. NowJames immediately thought I was28400:16:47,850 --> 00:16:53,100talking about him. But I wasn't.Oh, I don't remember which28500:16:53,100 --> 00:16:55,710hosting companies are doingthis. But I think that's really28600:16:55,710 --> 00:16:57,480a shitty thing to do. Honestly.28700:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,360They don't care. They don't getthey are they they're losing.28800:17:03,390 --> 00:17:04,680They're losing their shirt28900:17:05,039 --> 00:17:08,009that nobody is talking aboutSpotify. I'm talking about the29000:17:08,009 --> 00:17:12,239hosting company that did this.There's a hosting comm or two29100:17:12,239 --> 00:17:17,009hosting companies who speciallyfor Spotify are sucking them off29200:17:17,009 --> 00:17:19,889and giving them a specialversion. So you can use chapters29300:17:19,889 --> 00:17:22,079on Spotify. That's pisses me29400:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,920off. Oh, yeah. You'd say yeah,you think you should? They29500:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,540should have just given them thecold shoulder.29600:17:27,749 --> 00:17:32,129Yeah. eff off. Because if you dothat, that, you know, why just29700:17:32,129 --> 00:17:35,069do everything Spotify wants,they're not going to buy you29800:17:35,069 --> 00:17:42,239okay. Yeah, yeah, there mighthave been might have been29900:17:42,239 --> 00:17:44,939Captivate, I'm not sure I can'tremember who it was doesn't30000:17:44,939 --> 00:17:48,389really matter. It's just I just,I just want to make the point.30100:17:49,769 --> 00:17:56,189That that's not cool. Now, theydon't love you, okay, they don't30200:17:56,189 --> 00:17:58,379care about you. They're notgoing to do anything for you.30300:17:58,379 --> 00:18:00,869And all you're doing iscounterproductive to the actual30400:18:00,869 --> 00:18:02,219standard that we're using.30500:18:02,639 --> 00:18:05,099The issue there is that theydon't give anything. They don't30600:18:05,129 --> 00:18:07,949don't do anything for anybodyelse. Why would we do anything30700:18:07,949 --> 00:18:11,249for them? I just it's not a twoway street. You know, I mean,30800:18:11,249 --> 00:18:15,329like, where's the when's thelast time Spotify gave us an30900:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,529awesome, open standard that wecould all adopt and use now, but31000:18:20,309 --> 00:18:22,829this is they don't know whatthey do.31100:18:23,639 --> 00:18:30,029Know. But the issue is muchdeeper for me. We these chapters31200:18:30,029 --> 00:18:36,839didn't even exist. And now, youknow, now there's companies were31300:18:36,839 --> 00:18:39,989like, Oh, well, you know,Spotify wants to do it this way.31400:18:40,410 --> 00:18:43,950Well, that's how you does it.Some people love Yes. He says31500:18:43,950 --> 00:18:47,730some people love the YouTubething. I think it's janky. Yeah,31600:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,630it just GenX up.31700:18:48,660 --> 00:18:51,540You can't you can't do you can'tdo your proper trance. You can't31800:18:51,540 --> 00:18:55,830do a proper titles. You can't doproper images, a whole bunch of31900:18:55,830 --> 00:18:56,730stuff you can't do?32000:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,060Well, let's just say okay, let'slet's go down. Let's say this,32100:19:00,300 --> 00:19:03,810right, instead of chat. Okay,chapters, all you have to do is32200:19:03,810 --> 00:19:09,060put a bunch of timestamps intoyour, into your show notes, and32300:19:09,060 --> 00:19:13,110then we can and then we'll parsethose out and create the32400:19:13,110 --> 00:19:15,780chapters from that. So seethere, you know, that's great.32500:19:15,780 --> 00:19:19,440It's, it's wonderful. Okay, whatabout transcripts, put your32600:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,930entire transcript in your shownotes, and we'll parse out all32700:19:21,930 --> 00:19:25,410the timestamps and do all and doall this kind of stuff. Okay,32800:19:25,410 --> 00:19:26,760what about you know,32900:19:27,810 --> 00:19:29,310value for value, value33000:19:29,310 --> 00:19:34,590value? All that crap? Why are weparsing stuff out of show notes?33100:19:34,590 --> 00:19:37,260Yeah. It's like, it's like,Okay, dump all of this33200:19:37,260 --> 00:19:38,400unstructured data?33300:19:38,550 --> 00:19:40,890No, but no, but what Iunderstand they're literally33400:19:40,890 --> 00:19:45,480taking the chapter file, andthen dumping it into show notes33500:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,580with time codes for Spotify. Ya33600:19:47,579 --> 00:19:52,139know, so that it looks likecrap. The proper way to do that,33700:19:52,439 --> 00:19:58,739in me proper in as far as like,with some elegance to it is to33800:19:58,739 --> 00:20:04,349take is to just sit Port andactual structured schema file33900:20:04,739 --> 00:20:07,859and pull though. And if you wantto display the chapters as34000:20:07,859 --> 00:20:12,329markers in a text fashion, justparse that, that thing that's34100:20:12,329 --> 00:20:15,659already there, then display themin the show notes if you want34200:20:15,659 --> 00:20:17,189that don't do it the other wayaround.34300:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,550But the reason that whoever'sdoing this, the reason they're34400:20:20,550 --> 00:20:24,600doing it is because they, it'smarketing, hey, we are chapters34500:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,020work in Spotify. And whathappens then is then the next34600:20:28,980 --> 00:20:31,350hosting companies like well, youknow, people are going there,34700:20:31,380 --> 00:20:34,140because their chapters work inSpotify to new thing on Spotify,34800:20:34,140 --> 00:20:34,560we better34900:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,450do it, but nobody gives35000:20:36,450 --> 00:20:38,220a crap was clearly someone tous.35100:20:38,850 --> 00:20:41,130And nobody gives a crap aboutwhether their chapters work on35200:20:41,130 --> 00:20:44,220Spotify, if you can, I will makethis I will make this bold35300:20:44,220 --> 00:20:47,190prediction, if you are not is nothis is not prediction. This is35400:20:47,190 --> 00:20:49,860a bold state, there's astatement. I'm going to, I'm35500:20:49,860 --> 00:20:55,890going to declare this. If youcare at all about fill in the35600:20:55,890 --> 00:20:59,970blank thing about podcasting andSpotify. If you are a podcaster,35700:20:59,970 --> 00:21:05,940and you care about x in Spotify.It's not it doesn't have35800:21:05,940 --> 00:21:08,130anything to do with withchapters, I can promise you35900:21:08,130 --> 00:21:13,440that, oh, you care about likemonetizing, or it's all it's all36000:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,620the square ads or whatever. Youdon't give a crap about36100:21:16,620 --> 00:21:20,490features. Nobody's putting allthe stuff that they that they're36200:21:20,490 --> 00:21:27,150spending time on. Polls, q&a,nobody uses that stuff. Nobody36300:21:27,150 --> 00:21:31,020cares. Because I mean, the onlypeople that are on Spotify are36400:21:31,020 --> 00:21:32,340just trying to make a buck.36500:21:34,230 --> 00:21:37,470No, I disagree that people areon Spotify, because they believe36600:21:37,470 --> 00:21:40,200that the audience is on Spotify,which of course, there is a36700:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,650large portion of people wholisten to podcasts on Spotify,36800:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,620but nobody pays for them there.They also as a whole ad36900:21:46,620 --> 00:21:50,490supported, there's no there'sno, there's nothing. Nobody goes37000:21:50,490 --> 00:21:56,040to no Spotify user is no Spotifylistener, whether it's audio37100:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,490book, or whether it's audiobooksor podcasts or music or37200:21:59,490 --> 00:22:04,440anything. No Spotify listenercares about any of the features37300:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,100of the app. Oh,37400:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,610no, no, no, no, I agree. I agreewith you there. I agree with you37500:22:08,610 --> 00:22:12,720there. I'm just saying, Look,we're not to make a big deal of37600:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,990it outside of, I just find thatit's rude if you're going to go37700:22:18,990 --> 00:22:24,450around the standard to kowtow toanybody. And screw you. So37800:22:24,450 --> 00:22:25,560that's my that's my point.37900:22:27,780 --> 00:22:29,340Your last Yeah, Spotify.38000:22:30,869 --> 00:22:34,049Well, I mean, now that theheadline is clearly every38100:22:34,049 --> 00:22:36,929podcast listener wants video, weneed video.38200:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,070Yeah, yeah. Because because theycan't make money with audio.38300:22:42,030 --> 00:22:46,530I looked at this. I looked atthe data from this survey. I38400:22:46,530 --> 00:22:50,730kind of want to know, you know,how, who commissioned it or why38500:22:50,730 --> 00:22:53,730and it seemed like it was just alot of YouTube stuff in there.38600:22:54,180 --> 00:22:57,510And the whole premise that youknow, what platform Do you38700:22:57,900 --> 00:23:01,950listen to podcasts on? And ifyou know, 35% say YouTube? Wow,38800:23:01,950 --> 00:23:05,490okay. Those people will wantvideo. And then they want they38900:23:05,490 --> 00:23:09,090want and the reason why is theywant to see facial expressions.39000:23:09,180 --> 00:23:12,780Do you want facial expressionsin a true crime podcast? Is that39100:23:12,780 --> 00:23:15,930really what you want to see? WhoI'm very scared the scary part39200:23:15,930 --> 00:23:19,980scary music? No, that's that.That can't have video. That has39300:23:19,980 --> 00:23:23,040to be audio. That's what makesthat that that genre. So39400:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,330fantastic. I'm just spouting offtoday.39500:23:27,809 --> 00:23:31,049This is interesting to seeAlbert Alberto just reply and he39600:23:31,049 --> 00:23:33,599says Not yet. But it's in theroadmap for split. So okay,39700:23:33,599 --> 00:23:37,109cool. He says For reference,this is an interesting stat.39800:23:37,319 --> 00:23:42,929It's interesting. For reference,so far, we have we host 63839900:23:42,929 --> 00:23:49,589podcasts with VAT value forvalue active. No. Debt is not40000:23:49,589 --> 00:23:50,129bad. It's40100:23:50,130 --> 00:23:53,370quite a lot, actually. I mean,what is our current tally of?40200:23:54,330 --> 00:23:55,530We're over 11,000 I40300:23:55,530 --> 00:23:59,730think, right? Yeah, live1700 200 Some people that40400:23:59,730 --> 00:24:02,460went up a lot in the past coupleof weeks, and I can tell you40500:24:02,460 --> 00:24:06,030what's going on. I mean, we havelift off now. There's some real40600:24:06,060 --> 00:24:11,640there's some really cool stuffhappening. I'm gonna hit 10,861.40700:24:12,300 --> 00:24:19,050And now 10,860 That's what I'mseeing on our own website. About40800:24:19,050 --> 00:24:23,400I think it was about 11,000.It's a little under 11. I think40900:24:23,400 --> 00:24:30,810the the integration of Alby intopod verse which is is much41000:24:30,810 --> 00:24:36,810tighter admits tight, working,and I'll be having a direct fill41100:24:36,810 --> 00:24:40,800up your wallet with a card witha with a debit card. I think41200:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,760debit card works probably betterthan credit card. And fountain41300:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,260having the same in app breeze ofcourse has that in app. You41400:24:49,260 --> 00:24:54,810know, we it's such a differencefrom a week ago, when, when we41500:24:54,810 --> 00:24:57,660were struggling to tell peopleremember went through the whole41600:24:57,660 --> 00:25:00,630thing like get your cash app andgo to that part. Then the cash41700:25:00,630 --> 00:25:03,810app and then copy the invoice.And I mean, now it's this like,41800:25:04,110 --> 00:25:08,340boom, you throw it. Yes, I didit. Of course I tested it. I ran41900:25:08,340 --> 00:25:10,170through the whole process, Ifound that there were some42000:25:10,170 --> 00:25:13,380things that that needed tweakingand a couple other people know42100:25:13,410 --> 00:25:16,350on podcast indexOf socialwelfare, but it also go I think,42200:25:17,130 --> 00:25:21,150might have been Chad F, maybeDred Scott, maybe both were42300:25:21,420 --> 00:25:25,530generous Macintosh, he created avideo like a how to video42400:25:25,620 --> 00:25:33,390beautiful. But the KYC wasliterally address and Social42500:25:33,390 --> 00:25:37,680Security. No pictures, nodriver's license? No, no turn to42600:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,150the left turn to the right.There's no There's still some42700:25:42,180 --> 00:25:45,300there's a waiting, a littlewaiting period because you're42800:25:45,300 --> 00:25:49,380you are literally buying Bitcoinon chain. Can they give you the42900:25:49,380 --> 00:25:53,820transaction ID you can see yourtransaction. And there's a link43000:25:54,060 --> 00:25:57,090to the mempool which of courseis incredibly confusing for43100:25:57,090 --> 00:25:59,460people. So that needs to beexplained.43200:25:59,670 --> 00:26:01,170Yeah, no links to mempool43300:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,780is really no.43400:26:05,369 --> 00:26:08,099Okay, it's easy. Look, it'seasy. Just get when you all you43500:26:08,099 --> 00:26:11,489got to do. Go get go get yourcredit card, and your driver's43600:26:11,489 --> 00:26:13,949license, take a picture ofyourself. And then here's a link43700:26:13,949 --> 00:26:16,049to mempool See how easy that is?43800:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,380So So again, you don't need thatwith Moon pay. At least I didn't43900:26:19,380 --> 00:26:25,710need driver's license or picturejust just the payment info and,44000:26:26,100 --> 00:26:30,360and social, which I don't likegiving out but it's a light KYC.44100:26:31,050 --> 00:26:33,240And that was impressive.Enlightened. So now when Tina44200:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,920and I do Kirinda keeper onWednesday coming up, I think44300:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,300Well, we already had it alreadygot easier people like we had44400:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,450like two and a half million SATsand boosts from from you know,44500:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,780between shows. And this ismaking a difference now.44600:26:49,530 --> 00:26:51,600Did you say 200,000,002 and44700:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,250a half million two and a half?Holy, I wish I wish I wish now44800:26:56,250 --> 00:26:58,860two and a half million but nowand these are these are people44900:26:58,860 --> 00:27:04,230who typically just hit play onthe website. A lot of them45000:27:04,230 --> 00:27:10,140women. And until now it's a getan app. And here's and here's45100:27:10,140 --> 00:27:12,600the very simple way to becausethey all they all want to do it.45200:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,470They all want to send value.Yeah, they just fall off the45300:27:16,470 --> 00:27:20,820edge. So now Now it's possible Ithink I think this is a very45400:27:20,820 --> 00:27:24,690very very big deal for for avalue for value streaming and45500:27:24,690 --> 00:27:26,490booster grams. I think it'sreally going to make a45600:27:26,490 --> 00:27:34,260difference. And and I commendMitch and an Oscar and and Roy45700:27:34,260 --> 00:27:37,500and all their teams for for thistype of integration. This this45800:27:37,500 --> 00:27:40,290is good onboarding that'shappening here, especially when45900:27:40,290 --> 00:27:42,750you're actually buying Bitcoin.That's impressive.46000:27:43,410 --> 00:27:47,730I think this could be a wayforward for podcast addict to46100:27:48,570 --> 00:27:49,560now be integral.46200:27:49,559 --> 00:27:50,369So that helps.46300:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,500Because Xavier Xavier had lookedin I think maybe about a year46400:27:55,500 --> 00:27:59,400ago. I don't remember how farback it was. I think he had46500:27:59,400 --> 00:28:06,630looked into the value streamingin the LNP API. He was like,46600:28:06,630 --> 00:28:08,970nah, this just doesn't feel likeit's ready. It just doesn't feel46700:28:08,970 --> 00:28:10,830like it's ready. It's probablyright at the time probably46800:28:10,830 --> 00:28:16,170right. Yeah. Because he was likethere's two he was having46900:28:16,170 --> 00:28:21,360trouble with and I think at thetime LM Pei was struggling with47000:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,300capacity and stuff like thathe's just he's like it's not47100:28:24,300 --> 00:28:28,860reliable enough. I can't dothis. And so you know, but but47200:28:29,220 --> 00:28:35,940the lb integration that podverse did that is an easy and47300:28:35,940 --> 00:28:38,610easier to sing on the developerthemselves because they don't47400:28:38,610 --> 00:28:41,910have to. They're just they'rejust letting you link to your47500:28:41,910 --> 00:28:43,710wallet you're not having to makethose47600:28:43,740 --> 00:28:49,560right and at that point is all Imean, what I love about the Get47700:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,070albies Get Alby system the way Ithink it should work, which is47800:28:53,070 --> 00:28:58,230the way sovereign feeds does it,does it God bless Steven B. So47900:28:58,230 --> 00:29:02,640when I add a split to the noagenda feed, which is that only48000:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,990changes for one for one split,and that is for the artist, and48100:29:06,990 --> 00:29:10,590I've I've encouraged all theartists to get an Alby wallet,48200:29:10,890 --> 00:29:15,480so if it's Taunton Neil at getallday.com I literally go into48300:29:15,510 --> 00:29:20,100into sovereign feeds. And then Iset up I set up the split and I48400:29:20,100 --> 00:29:25,590click LB and I type in Tom tounderscore Neil at get lb.com48500:29:26,940 --> 00:29:29,520Everything's populated that48600:29:29,550 --> 00:29:31,950results with the keys Yes.48700:29:33,420 --> 00:29:34,590Beautiful and I48800:29:34,709 --> 00:29:38,099take it back it's not Ellen URL.No, it's not us, isn't it? No,48900:29:38,189 --> 00:29:40,559it's that it's that other thingis the other thing49000:29:40,829 --> 00:29:44,489but that is really impressive,you know, so that that to me49100:29:44,489 --> 00:29:47,909seems though if you're going tohave a get get Alby integration49200:29:48,749 --> 00:29:52,229just haven't just enter youryour your get Alby lightning49300:29:52,229 --> 00:29:54,509address and you're done. Youshouldn't have to do anything49400:29:54,509 --> 00:29:56,159else and then authorizeobviously,49500:29:56,670 --> 00:29:58,560service they want to talk toXavier. Here's a word about49600:29:58,590 --> 00:30:00,510Gulag Okay, Hello.49700:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,870That's what I remember. That'swhat I remember the problem49800:30:03,870 --> 00:30:06,960being is the problem is no, no,we can't do that, because Google49900:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,100has real. You know, they've hadissues that kick people off for50000:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,010using wallets and stuff. Butit's clearly it's the other50100:30:14,010 --> 00:30:14,910people are doing it.50200:30:15,089 --> 00:30:17,489Yeah. See, that's the way like Isaid, that's the way forward50300:30:17,489 --> 00:30:22,889because pod verse, Mitch andMitch and the boys they pushed.50400:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,609It's, I mean, they're all overGoogle. So it's not, I think50500:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,520Xavier has a flag, though. And Ilike him for some reason. Oh,50600:30:32,550 --> 00:30:35,940that's just Google. And it'sjust Google. Hey, look, Google D50700:30:35,940 --> 00:30:43,470platform me from Google ads in2010. I can never ever, ever50800:30:43,470 --> 00:30:47,190again, make any money throughGoogle, YouTube or anything?50900:30:47,670 --> 00:30:49,590Why would you do? I had an51000:30:49,590 --> 00:30:54,480app at the time, which I builtmyself, I might point out. Yes,51100:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,490impressive. The big App Show.51200:30:56,910 --> 00:30:59,490And what I remember the big appshow that was that was you had51300:30:59,490 --> 00:31:01,260freedom controller on the bigshow for a while.51400:31:03,300 --> 00:31:06,120On the on the website. Yeah,absolutely. And what the way I51500:31:06,120 --> 00:31:12,570would do is I'd shoot videos ofapps in in portrait mode. And51600:31:12,570 --> 00:31:15,630I'd go full screen. So you wereliterally getting a demo of the51700:31:15,630 --> 00:31:18,540app that looked like it wasrunning on your phone. And this51800:31:18,540 --> 00:31:22,920was 2010. So that was kind ofcool. And I had ads in there.51900:31:23,580 --> 00:31:25,920And I'd be talking about theapps and I say oh, by the way,52000:31:26,250 --> 00:31:28,980you know, we got an ad we gotads here. So tap on the ad, take52100:31:28,980 --> 00:31:34,350a look at the sponsors. And Iwas doing like $2,000 a month in52200:31:34,380 --> 00:31:37,380in Google ad money for twomonths. And then Google went,52300:31:37,740 --> 00:31:40,500this is false. This is fake.These are fake clicks. So what52400:31:40,500 --> 00:31:45,990do you mean? You're askingpeople to look at ads? Ah, okay.52500:31:46,380 --> 00:31:50,400That's what you're saying.That's the point. No, no.52600:31:50,970 --> 00:31:54,720So you got a lifetime banned?Forever? Yeah. It's because you52700:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,740were making too much money.52800:31:56,010 --> 00:31:58,830I don't know what it was. But itwasn't all that much. But it was52900:31:58,830 --> 00:32:01,890just I mean, it was nice money,certainly at the time, but just53000:32:01,920 --> 00:32:08,310Dixit digs. Advertising sucks.This is why we wound up here. I53100:32:08,310 --> 00:32:12,450don't like being D platformed.For bull crap. Yeah, we got some53200:32:12,450 --> 00:32:16,290relevant boosted grams coming inlive as we are let's Of course,53300:32:16,650 --> 00:32:20,460get Wattpad versus a currentlywill alert you if you set it up.53400:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,910When we go live from contracts,which I'm going to go into53500:32:23,910 --> 00:32:31,050assume is probably Boomi orsomeone from get Alby. Let's53600:32:31,050 --> 00:32:38,730see. Says here this is 5000SATs. To make V four v53700:32:38,730 --> 00:32:41,610onboarding as easy as possible.We've added a tool that lets you53800:32:41,610 --> 00:32:45,030validate your V four v set upwith two clicks. Also amounts53900:32:45,030 --> 00:32:48,480can now be displayed in Fiatfrom coupons. Oh, nice. One,54000:32:48,480 --> 00:32:48,570does54100:32:48,569 --> 00:32:50,939that mean validate? Does thatmean? Like it'll tell you if54200:32:50,939 --> 00:32:53,339they'll check your blog and savethe splits? Or? I54300:32:53,579 --> 00:32:57,149think so I think so. Boosts usagain with 50,000 SATs with the54400:32:57,149 --> 00:33:00,629answer, please. One technicalhurdle we had during the54500:33:00,629 --> 00:33:03,809development, its value forvalue. We couldn't find the54600:33:03,809 --> 00:33:07,439correct way to round splits inthe spec. How do you guys think54700:33:07,439 --> 00:33:12,269split should be rounded? I mean,just down to the Satoshi level.54800:33:12,269 --> 00:33:14,459I guess if you if it's an oddnumber.54900:33:16,050 --> 00:33:18,120I think I would just round55000:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,269around rounding the mountaindown is what I'd say. Yeah,55100:33:21,329 --> 00:33:25,079yeah. Cuz if you round it. Yeah,I think I would round down just55200:33:25,079 --> 00:33:25,829to be safe.55300:33:25,980 --> 00:33:33,780I'm sorry. Here's. Here's Alwyn.10,000 SATs. Oh, this is our55400:33:33,780 --> 00:33:42,810one. Okay. And I guess Alan isfrom pure. Now. Here we go. This55500:33:42,810 --> 00:33:47,850is a fun idea. 33,333 fromblueberry. Does anyone president55600:33:47,850 --> 00:33:50,400have an opinion on open sourcesolution to substack? For Okay,55700:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,910we'll do that in a moment. Nowhe's sent the same message55800:33:53,910 --> 00:33:56,760twice. I got it. I'm not sureexactly what that means. We have55900:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,480to figure it out.56000:33:59,190 --> 00:34:01,320already. I think we alreadydiscussed I think I think it was56100:34:02,550 --> 00:34:04,680in the spec somewhere. I thoughtwe put that in there.56200:34:05,099 --> 00:34:08,189I could be wrong, because I knowwe had a long discussion about56300:34:08,189 --> 00:34:08,699rounding.56400:34:09,090 --> 00:34:10,470Recall something about that56500:34:10,470 --> 00:34:14,160too. And maybe wrong. But theway that we've I think we've56600:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,170been down every one of theseroads before. Now not to say56700:34:19,170 --> 00:34:20,910that there's something thatcan't come up that we haven't56800:34:21,510 --> 00:34:25,950thought about. But I mean, I'malmost 100% sure that we early56900:34:25,950 --> 00:34:29,700on when we were I think it waswe're hashing out. What do you57000:34:29,700 --> 00:34:33,600do when that when the splitsdon't add up to 100? And that's57100:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,570when we went to a share modelinstead of a percentage.57200:34:36,990 --> 00:34:47,250So if you have a if you'rerunning a podcast at@rss.com57300:34:47,430 --> 00:34:50,640Does the index get a split or isno split? Is that automatic? But57400:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,290depends on where the wherethey're getting it from, I57500:34:52,290 --> 00:34:56,070guess. Yeah, like always if theAP if they if they use the API57600:34:56,070 --> 00:34:58,560then then that's when the splitis okay. God Yeah,57700:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,470if people get their valuablelogging information from rice57800:35:01,470 --> 00:35:03,930and we could we put the 1% inthere if they did they get it57900:35:03,930 --> 00:35:07,020straight from the feed and theydon't. They don't have to run.58000:35:07,020 --> 00:35:09,150They don't have to be the waybut it's honor system.58100:35:09,930 --> 00:35:12,780Yeah. Well, everyone's a crookthese days. What are you guys?58200:35:14,100 --> 00:35:19,500Crooks? Sam second you gotfunded? Wow, that was a joke.58300:35:21,000 --> 00:35:27,450But man 300,000 Star 300,000pounds proof. Congratulations,58400:35:27,450 --> 00:35:30,480brother i that is an amazingamount of money in this in this58500:35:30,630 --> 00:35:32,160investing climate.58600:35:32,550 --> 00:35:35,490So I haven't I haven't listlistened to you.58700:35:35,490 --> 00:35:37,800I was listening to it today. Iwas listening to the Yeah. But58800:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,870did he say who it was that fun?No, no, he58900:35:39,870 --> 00:35:43,740didn't say who it was or whatthe valuation was. Which is59000:35:43,740 --> 00:35:45,690marginally interesting. It's59100:35:45,900 --> 00:35:49,140but at least a billion dollars,at least. It's59200:35:49,140 --> 00:35:52,020probably a valuation of amillion, I would say it's59300:35:52,020 --> 00:35:54,900probably what it is. I hope itdoesn't matter. I'm really happy59400:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,630for Sam, because I know how hardhe worked on this. It was, you59500:35:57,630 --> 00:36:00,420know, he had partners he had toget rid of because they fell59600:36:00,420 --> 00:36:03,420down and weren't doing anything.And so we picked this whole59700:36:03,420 --> 00:36:07,320project up and, and it soundsreally cool. I know, you saw59800:36:07,950 --> 00:36:12,900kind of an alpha alpha versionworking. But it was beautiful. I59900:36:12,900 --> 00:36:14,880think a lot of this money isfrom marketing, which is60000:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,550expected. You know, it doesn'tcost that much these days, you60100:36:17,550 --> 00:36:22,380know, all the stuff is kind ofout there. So it's UI UX, which60200:36:22,410 --> 00:36:24,870you know, takes real skill andreal people who can do that.60300:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,760It's got a great developer towas on the on a call with him.60400:36:30,420 --> 00:36:33,720With him in his is Dev one day,and they were like, the guy60500:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,400really knows what he's doing.He's he's good guy.60600:36:35,460 --> 00:36:39,630Yeah. I'm so happy. And youknow, this is marketing money.60700:36:39,630 --> 00:36:43,380So I'm very excited. How muchhe's going to donate to the show60800:36:43,380 --> 00:36:44,700for us to talk about him again.60900:36:45,420 --> 00:36:51,630There's, there's 300,000 That's61000:36:53,940 --> 00:36:56,730a lot. That's a lot of a lot ofcoin baby. A lot of coins.61100:36:58,020 --> 00:37:01,680Yeah, there's, I mean, there'slike a lot of this, this felt61200:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,720like the last week was a lot ofput a lot of just developments.61300:37:07,740 --> 00:37:10,530So sort of revelation like, likepushing forward because61400:37:10,650 --> 00:37:13,830blueberry? They're evidentlyreleased. Oh, cracking.61500:37:13,860 --> 00:37:18,060Yeah. Well, cracking iseverywhere these days. I know,61600:37:18,090 --> 00:37:21,210Todd wrote a whole write up ofpodcasting. 2.0.61700:37:21,930 --> 00:37:24,720Boy, they and they've gotthey've you can do live item,61800:37:24,750 --> 00:37:27,480you can do live streams now inyou can put those in your feed61900:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,950in the blueberry UI,62000:37:28,980 --> 00:37:31,350and they offer the streamingserver as well.62100:37:32,220 --> 00:37:36,750I don't think that they do.Okay. I don't think they do62200:37:36,750 --> 00:37:40,830that. But they it's a readthrough the through the article62300:37:40,830 --> 00:37:44,820that he linked to, and it's anexplainer about how to put your62400:37:44,820 --> 00:37:48,240live stream information intoyour feed using losing their62500:37:48,240 --> 00:37:53,220dashboard. Which I mean, that's,that's great, because then, you62600:37:53,220 --> 00:37:57,570know, like a day later, orsomething like that. The Xavier62700:37:58,110 --> 00:38:00,870says the podcast index. I mean,it's gonna be podcast addict is62800:38:00,870 --> 00:38:04,590going to is going to releasebeta and evidently it's out now.62900:38:04,590 --> 00:38:08,580So he's got beta live item tagsword in the beta. Ah, I63000:38:08,580 --> 00:38:11,640didn't know that. Okay. Thepodcast addict. Yeah. Excellent.63100:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,660Does Liz is live streaming now,too. He says, if you have the63200:38:15,660 --> 00:38:18,360latest beta installed, you canlisten to podcasts and 2.0 live63300:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,040right now and interact with thechat by pressing on the player63400:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,730screen chat button. You getnotified about the lives63500:38:26,790 --> 00:38:29,850starting in real time via pushnotification. Yeah, so it sounds63600:38:29,850 --> 00:38:32,730like a lot a lot like pod versesupport.63700:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,790But then we need to put themeverywhere. I need to start63800:38:35,820 --> 00:38:41,790promoting him as the for noagenda, then if that works, if63900:38:41,790 --> 00:38:45,150people can get a ping. We wantpeople to be able to listen64000:38:45,150 --> 00:38:46,350live. That's fantastic.64100:38:47,670 --> 00:38:51,780is I think he may be in thechat. Actually. I think I saw64200:38:51,780 --> 00:38:55,260somebody boosting his karma inthe chat a while ago. So I mean,64300:38:55,260 --> 00:38:59,940I I'm assuming he's testing itlive from the from the app. So64400:38:59,940 --> 00:39:04,980that's two apps. Now they cando. They can do live item. Live,64500:39:04,980 --> 00:39:11,190do live streams and chat. Thelive chat so that is exciting.64600:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,200I have a I have you ever commenton on Todd's blog posts.64700:39:16,980 --> 00:39:17,370Okay.64800:39:19,140 --> 00:39:22,710So he goes through the livestuff. And he sent us let's talk64900:39:22,710 --> 00:39:25,860about the crypto component andit gives a little breakdown of65000:39:26,670 --> 00:39:30,240what a Satoshi is. And I thinkthis is incorrect. He says65100:39:30,240 --> 00:39:36,030crypto astigmatism. I think hemeant astigmatism. Astigmatism65200:39:36,030 --> 00:39:39,420is a thing with your eye, isn'tit? It's like nearsightedness.65300:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,630Yeah, so crypto. I don't thinkit's a stick. Well, I It's funny65400:39:42,780 --> 00:39:46,410if it's crypto nearsightedness.I don't know. I think maybe65500:39:46,410 --> 00:39:49,470true. Yeah, I think you need toremove a a65600:39:50,910 --> 00:39:53,730a stigmatism is a common agenerally treatable imperfection65700:39:53,730 --> 00:39:54,870in the curvature of the eye.65800:39:55,859 --> 00:40:02,579Yes, that's, that's that's abooboo there. gotta fix. Oh, and65900:40:02,579 --> 00:40:06,839I also fixed new podcastapps.com with HTTPS.66000:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,730Okay, tell me what you had todo.66100:40:09,329 --> 00:40:16,709Wow. Yeah, I mean, all I reallywant is just just put a forward66200:40:16,709 --> 00:40:19,439in there. But you know, it'slike you can't just forward and66300:40:19,499 --> 00:40:24,239so if someone typed in HTTPS newpad podcast apps.com, there's no66400:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,149cert for that. And, you know,and I guess I could have, I66500:40:27,149 --> 00:40:30,899actually went in and looked atthe GitHub, I'm like, can I add66600:40:30,899 --> 00:40:33,749this into the nginx, or whateverneeds to be done so that we can66700:40:33,749 --> 00:40:36,299just have the cert on the otherside, but then you can't66800:40:36,329 --> 00:40:41,219actually make it forward toslash? Apps, podcasts66900:40:41,219 --> 00:40:45,869index.org/apps. So DNS simplewho I use, they have a forward67000:40:45,899 --> 00:40:49,769URL forwarding service, and it'sin the DNS record, it's a URL67100:40:49,769 --> 00:40:57,179record. And while you canforward from HTTP to HTTPS, you67200:40:57,209 --> 00:41:01,589if you want to forward fromHTTPS to, you know, to the URL67300:41:01,589 --> 00:41:04,799with HTTPS, you need to have adifferent account, which you67400:41:04,799 --> 00:41:09,359know, because basically, they'rethen acting, they are acting as67500:41:09,359 --> 00:41:14,909the cert. So I have a certregistered for that domain name,67600:41:14,909 --> 00:41:17,699and then it's hitting theirserver and then being forwarded.67700:41:17,699 --> 00:41:20,969So I guess they, they, they,they want to charge money for67800:41:20,969 --> 00:41:24,989the for that service, which isokay. I don't mind. So then I67900:41:24,989 --> 00:41:28,379set it up. And the only thing Icouldn't do was I couldn't do a68000:41:28,379 --> 00:41:32,549parameter. So I can do pocketinitial Lord slash apps. I68100:41:32,549 --> 00:41:36,509couldn't do slash apps questionmark, you know, filter by app.68200:41:38,159 --> 00:41:39,929That doesn't work in thatscenario.68300:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,490Se Se. Okay. So that was theissue. Yeah. Okay.68400:41:45,510 --> 00:41:48,960By the way, I think cryptoastigmatism is a show title.68500:41:49,770 --> 00:41:54,630Oh, yeah. Yes. stigmata, youknow, this, this would be68600:41:54,630 --> 00:41:56,130another way to go with this. Thestigma68700:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,060of astigmatism is funnier. Okay.I like it a lot.68800:42:01,770 --> 00:42:05,100This is, this is. This is great.68900:42:05,370 --> 00:42:08,700It's fantastic. I'm sorry. I'msorry. What are we been two and69000:42:08,700 --> 00:42:12,990a half years from, from conceptto where we are today.69100:42:13,650 --> 00:42:16,740There's some yeah, there'ssomething about the live.69200:42:17,730 --> 00:42:21,390There's something about the livestuff that just yeah, it just I69300:42:21,390 --> 00:42:24,750don't know, man. It just, it'sreally exciting. It's, it feels69400:42:24,750 --> 00:42:28,830like something. It feels likevalue for value. To me. It feels69500:42:28,830 --> 00:42:32,400like something brand new.Everything else is different.69600:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,210The rest of the stuff in thenamespace, yes, it's cool. But69700:42:36,210 --> 00:42:40,350they're, they're like, they feellike just sort of making things69800:42:40,980 --> 00:42:44,880making things better than theywere. They feel like it feels69900:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,860like an evolution of things.This feels like something truly70000:42:49,860 --> 00:42:54,300new in a podcast app. That'snever been rude. Agreed. It's70100:42:54,300 --> 00:42:58,110really never been done. Andintimate to me when you can do70200:42:58,110 --> 00:43:02,010that. You can kind of like, andwhen I say never been done, I'm70300:43:02,010 --> 00:43:06,330sure you understand. Understandthere's there's there's apps70400:43:06,330 --> 00:43:09,540that have done live streaming.I'm talking about in a podcast70500:43:09,540 --> 00:43:14,910app. There's a dedicatedindependent podcast app itself70600:43:15,330 --> 00:43:22,050when you can when you can makeall of them able to do to be70700:43:22,050 --> 00:43:26,040radio receivers for live contentthat is Yes, sure.70800:43:26,250 --> 00:43:30,150And Thank you Mitch forsquashing the bug for 100% Retro70900:43:30,150 --> 00:43:34,080the live feed now. I get analert maybe just maybe eight71000:43:34,080 --> 00:43:34,980times a day.71100:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,620Yeah, me too. That's it's mycanary in the coal mine.71200:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,800Everything's still workingexactly. And it's beautiful71300:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,800because the the alert pops upand it's got the the right title71400:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,710the right image. And over theweekend there it was Ben Lee but71500:43:46,710 --> 00:43:53,190on popped up. What I did, Kimwild popped up and I tuned in i71600:43:53,190 --> 00:43:56,790Listen, you're like okay, that'svery cool. And then the bet it71700:43:56,790 --> 00:43:59,880was frustrating even because itwas Wednesday. Was it Wednesday,71800:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,480I think I was in theperiodontist office in the chair71900:44:03,540 --> 00:44:06,060group. And I said hold on asecond because I just might just72000:44:06,060 --> 00:44:08,040how I talked to my periodontistback off for a second. Let me72100:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,410take a look. Oh, it's the newmedia show. I really want to72200:44:10,410 --> 00:44:13,530listen and boosting grammar.HCA. He's like no, no, open your72300:44:13,530 --> 00:44:13,920mouth.72400:44:15,690 --> 00:44:18,240It's like, oh, man, you get youget a space.72500:44:19,500 --> 00:44:22,320I was bummed about it because Ireally want it's it was72600:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,880exciting. It was truly an I haveevery reason to be extremely72700:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,140jaded about this stuff.72800:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,850I'm not typically alive.Podcasts podcast listener, like72900:44:32,850 --> 00:44:37,050I don't that's just not normallyhow I roll. And I realize this73000:44:37,050 --> 00:44:42,240because I always had to I haveto go to my computer and I have73100:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,180to know the schedule and it'sjust too much mental it's just73200:44:45,180 --> 00:44:45,750too many hoops73300:44:45,750 --> 00:44:48,570to jump through of course andnow I just tap it boom it opens73400:44:48,570 --> 00:44:49,620running is fantastic.73500:44:49,710 --> 00:44:52,800Pod verse notified me the otherday new media show just went73600:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,500live. I just clicked it Yeah, Iwas like okay, yeah, sure I'm in73700:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,350get me and I don't know whathappened but my my Get lb stays73800:45:01,350 --> 00:45:06,000connected now to to pod verse Idon't have to reconnect it every73900:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,120single time I as far as I knowthere was no update past the one74000:45:09,180 --> 00:45:11,640that that was fixing. It wasn'tfixed and then it's fixed. It's74100:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,090magic.74200:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640I love it. And maybe maybe itwas an Aldi problem. It is74300:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,690something I think it was I74400:45:15,690 --> 00:45:17,760think there was an lbauthentication issue that it was74500:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,610dropping for some reason. I'mnot sure. Doesn't matter,74600:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,440whoever fix it. Merci beaucoup.And Chabot, BA and all that good74700:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,070French stuff.74800:45:27,330 --> 00:45:30,840Do we I feel like we want totalk about at least a little bit74900:45:30,870 --> 00:45:33,000about the web monetizationstuff. I didn't want to talk75000:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,250about it last week, because wehad a guest. And it's there's75100:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,940too, you75200:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,280know, I was trying, I was tryingto silence it to death. But75300:45:38,280 --> 00:45:38,700okay.75400:45:40,770 --> 00:45:45,060That, like, I just felt like Iwant to talk about a little bit75500:45:46,980 --> 00:45:52,680around what, what I think is, Iguess, I guess just my general75600:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,460feelings about it. In mygeneral, in general, I think75700:45:56,460 --> 00:46:00,660it's, I think it's fine. I mean,I don't have a problem with the75800:46:00,660 --> 00:46:05,400web monetization, technology,that and we're talking about the75900:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,330stuff that PRX days. So PRX isdoing, it's only in their web76000:46:09,330 --> 00:46:13,860player. And it's very limited,they don't they, they have a76100:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,130lot allow me to allow me to kickit off, because I caused a76200:46:17,130 --> 00:46:20,310ruckus about it. And I'mpartially I apologize, because I76300:46:20,310 --> 00:46:23,700was just flying off the handle.But there was something deeper76400:46:23,700 --> 00:46:29,730here. The the way it came to meis exactly what I was afraid of,76500:46:30,240 --> 00:46:35,040I saw headlines, I heard aheadline PRX value for value,76600:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,340I'm like, wow, this is great.And then I see that it's not76700:46:38,340 --> 00:46:44,130value for value at all, yet,yet. Because it's missing a lot76800:46:44,130 --> 00:46:47,520of you know, it's it's apayment, it's a payment, which76900:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,420is web uses a different systemthan lightning, that's fine. But77000:46:51,840 --> 00:46:57,450it just hurt me because valuefor value is not just streaming77100:46:57,450 --> 00:47:00,570payments or booster grams,that's not value for value, it77200:47:00,570 --> 00:47:05,490is truly the returning of valuethat you set yourself value for77300:47:05,490 --> 00:47:08,370value dot info was a wholewebsite about it, which, you77400:47:08,370 --> 00:47:10,890know, finally, I think peopleare starting to look at it,77500:47:12,180 --> 00:47:19,500which I wrote with my my drawinga blank eg GG, thank you. And77600:47:19,500 --> 00:47:23,970it's couple of the people who'vecontributed some things. And,77700:47:24,180 --> 00:47:27,570and I was just you know, that'sthat's not what value for value77800:47:27,570 --> 00:47:30,720can be done in many differentways with Pay Pal, you know,77900:47:30,720 --> 00:47:35,430with cash money sending itthrough to a Pio box. But just78000:47:35,430 --> 00:47:39,060because you give $5 to acompany, and they and they and78100:47:39,060 --> 00:47:42,930they give you the gives the thecontent owner X amount per78200:47:42,930 --> 00:47:46,320minute. It's not value for valuethat's like, that's something78300:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,010different. And so that and thenwhen I saw the PRX zone78400:47:50,010 --> 00:47:53,250document, which mentioned valuefor value, it was very78500:47:53,250 --> 00:47:56,520confusing. And so i my i wentinto protective mode of78600:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,450something that I named somethingthat we've been working on for78700:48:00,450 --> 00:48:06,36015 years in so value for valueis distinctly different than web78800:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,400monetization. And any and evenPatreon is not value for value,78900:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,880because you can't just so manytimes I'm listening to79000:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,090something. And I'm like, Oh, Ireally want to support them. How79100:48:18,090 --> 00:48:21,720can I do it, Patreon. And theonly way to do it on Patreon is79200:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,200to become a member of somelevel, I want to give you 5079300:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,510bucks right now. Can't do it onPatreon. So that's what value79400:48:30,510 --> 00:48:33,360for value is. And so whathappened here and the proposal79500:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,680that came in, was marketed assuch Republic, excuse me79600:48:37,710 --> 00:48:42,270reported as such. And that justjust I blew my top. So I was79700:48:42,270 --> 00:48:46,710incorrect about accusations Imade. It's absolutely fine. I79800:48:46,710 --> 00:48:51,300want you know, we got an emailthe other day, and I'm starting79900:48:51,300 --> 00:48:53,460to handle more emails you'd likethat day if I'm handling the80000:48:53,460 --> 00:48:56,160emails for you on Thank you.Thank you for your is that80100:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,030working for you? Is that workingfor you? 100% work? Okay, good.80200:49:00,030 --> 00:49:02,040No, I enjoy doing it. Because Ijust said, you know, yeah, well,80300:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,040we'll get on that. And within 24hours, you know, it'll be fixed.80400:49:06,300 --> 00:49:13,380If we can. And to help us I canOh, so there's something Open80500:49:14,610 --> 00:49:17,970Content Foundation or something.It's like, hey, we have80600:49:18,240 --> 00:49:22,290resources, we got money. We gotengineers, we like this concept.80700:49:22,290 --> 00:49:26,010We'd like the whole idea, as Oh,cool. You know, tell me tell me80800:49:26,010 --> 00:49:30,840what's going on. And I look atit and it's like, you know, it's80900:49:30,870 --> 00:49:35,910it's like a kind of a Aetheriumtype thing tokens. And I'm like,81000:49:35,910 --> 00:49:40,140you know, here's the spec. It'dbe great if you can if you can81100:49:40,140 --> 00:49:43,530integrate it this way and enjoybut we don't really need your81200:49:43,530 --> 00:49:44,790resources for that.81300:49:46,590 --> 00:49:52,980Yeah, that to me a little goback to the bait was the base81400:49:52,980 --> 00:50:01,200protocol. So the devalue blockitself was created. needed to be81500:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,150plug and play with anything thatpeople could dream up to fit in81600:50:06,150 --> 00:50:09,720there. Sure, if you if you canfigure out a way to put it in81700:50:09,720 --> 00:50:11,790there in a way that makes sensewith your back end81800:50:11,790 --> 00:50:17,430infrastructure, go for it, havefun to knock stuff out. But as81900:50:17,430 --> 00:50:22,740far as, like, the thing thatthat I want to like personally,82000:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,750like endorse or try to push foror things like that, those82100:50:27,750 --> 00:50:32,130things, that's a differentquestion. You know, like, I82200:50:32,130 --> 00:50:37,650will, I will gladly approve andmerge in, you know, things like82300:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,940a and any kind of PR that thathas, that had that fits the82400:50:41,940 --> 00:50:47,550spec, and is in is in the spiritof what we're trying to do with,82500:50:47,580 --> 00:50:53,130you know, which is decentralizedpayments. So, but that's, you82600:50:53,130 --> 00:50:56,070know, that's a differentquestion from my own personal82700:50:56,070 --> 00:51:02,520beliefs in which is, and on thatnote, I go back to, if the base82800:51:02,520 --> 00:51:08,760protocol itself is open, anddecentralized and free and82900:51:08,760 --> 00:51:16,410accessible, then what's built ontop of it, like layers, 234,83000:51:17,070 --> 00:51:20,310whatever, they may not beperfect, but they'll at least83100:51:20,310 --> 00:51:26,250maintain that that base level offreedom. So they sort of inherit83200:51:26,250 --> 00:51:30,660the properties of the of of thatbase level of the parents so to83300:51:30,660 --> 00:51:36,210speak. And that's that's the waythat's why that's why I'm on83400:51:36,210 --> 00:51:39,960Bitcoin to for this for thevalue for value thing for83500:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,520lightning. Yeah. Is because, youknow, Bitcoin itself cannot83600:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,170handle the volume of traffic andthe fee structure and all that83700:51:49,170 --> 00:51:53,010stuff that's necessary to dothis stuff. But But lightning83800:51:53,010 --> 00:51:58,830can. But is lightning a perfectprotocol? No, not by any stretch83900:51:58,830 --> 00:52:02,010of the imagination. And I thinkeverybody, hopefully, hopefully.84000:52:02,670 --> 00:52:07,860And I think everybody involvedin the lightning ecosystem would84100:52:07,860 --> 00:52:10,680admit that, if they're trying tobe out, if they're being honest,84200:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,340I mean, things like keys. Andthese are, these are not84300:52:15,000 --> 00:52:22,170perfectly designed protocols, ifthere even is such a thing. But84400:52:22,710 --> 00:52:30,540when you compare it to somethinglike web monetization, when if I84500:52:30,540 --> 00:52:34,260do like, if, if I'm talkingabout pure decentralized84600:52:34,260 --> 00:52:38,910payments, I can participate inthe Lightning Network without84700:52:38,910 --> 00:52:44,730anyone else. Right, not as justan end user. But actually, in84800:52:44,730 --> 00:52:46,920the infrastructure flow itself.84900:52:46,949 --> 00:52:50,849And that's in the spec, it says,specifically, from the user85000:52:50,849 --> 00:52:52,979directly to the producer.85100:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,810Yeah, I can be Yes, I can be anode within the network85200:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,490exchanging payment traffic, Ican be in the flow, and there's85300:53:02,490 --> 00:53:07,530nothing else there. There's no,I don't have I'm not, I'm not a85400:53:07,530 --> 00:53:13,800lower level, excuse me, a higherlevel node, where I have to then85500:53:13,800 --> 00:53:20,340request to some to some lowerlevel to do a thing. I'm at a,85600:53:20,370 --> 00:53:22,680when you're when you're whenyou're running a lightning node,85700:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,030you're already at the at85800:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,120your equal equal, everybody'sequal.85900:53:27,150 --> 00:53:32,010Yes. And so when you know, thatis contrasted with something86000:53:32,010 --> 00:53:34,740like web monetization, andagain, I want to say the web86100:53:34,740 --> 00:53:38,730monetization stuff is fine. It'sI merged it in, it's in there,86200:53:38,730 --> 00:53:39,540it's in the spec now.86300:53:39,750 --> 00:53:44,580But here's the flaw. And thisthis, I'm sorry.86400:53:45,750 --> 00:53:50,010If the thing was a webmonetization protocol, the the86500:53:50,040 --> 00:53:57,000inter ledger protocol, the ILPstuff, it is inscrutable. It's86600:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,170not only inscrutable to mosthuman beings, if you read the86700:54:01,170 --> 00:54:07,770spec, but you also to be at theexchange and to be a node within86800:54:07,770 --> 00:54:14,820there. You have to have accessto to banking, you have to have,86900:54:15,450 --> 00:54:18,420you essentially have to havelots of money and lots of87000:54:18,420 --> 00:54:22,860resources to integrate with thetraditional financial system,87100:54:23,070 --> 00:54:27,810and other blockchains it is byno means anything that any87200:54:27,810 --> 00:54:33,060normal human being can do withlimited, normal average human87300:54:33,060 --> 00:54:37,590being resources. That's whatthat's what I think we all just87400:54:37,590 --> 00:54:41,340need to be aware of you, youwere talking about to boredom87500:54:41,340 --> 00:54:45,000are two things that fit a spec,but other than that, they87600:54:45,030 --> 00:54:48,240they're not comparable in anyway.87700:54:50,310 --> 00:54:52,740First of all, new show title,inscrutable.87800:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,270Great word, inscrutable money.87900:54:57,330 --> 00:55:01,680It's that's do it. Thedefinition of inscrutable is88000:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,910interesting, inscrutable, notreadily investigated,88100:55:05,910 --> 00:55:09,450interpreted or understood. Ilike inscrutable good word.88200:55:10,380 --> 00:55:13,500This, to me is a bit of athrowback to a, here's a, here's88300:55:13,500 --> 00:55:18,750the overall problem. Justgetting something into the spec88400:55:18,750 --> 00:55:23,280or putting something, the valueblock is really not even half88500:55:23,280 --> 00:55:28,590the work. This reminds me of theln URL mafia. And all they were88600:55:28,590 --> 00:55:33,270interested in is that theirversion of payments was in the88700:55:33,270 --> 00:55:38,280spec. No one incentivized asingle developer of any apps.88800:55:39,420 --> 00:55:42,600And, you know, when and youknow, the the Interledger.88900:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,450Folks, they reached out to usthey say you want to grant you89000:55:45,450 --> 00:55:48,180want some money? No, no, thankyou for a whole bunch of89100:55:48,180 --> 00:55:50,910reasons, our own personalreasons, but we don't really89200:55:51,060 --> 00:55:53,310want to take any corporatemoney. That's bottom line, we89300:55:53,310 --> 00:55:55,530don't want to take any corporatemoney from anybody, because then89400:55:55,830 --> 00:56:00,030we are, you know, we could we'vebeen offered lots of things,89500:56:00,060 --> 00:56:03,300advisor, ships, shares, youknow, no, no, no, no, no, we89600:56:03,300 --> 00:56:06,390don't want that. Because thenthen we're compromised, or89700:56:06,390 --> 00:56:10,950potentially compromised. And soyou know, if, if a company gives89800:56:10,950 --> 00:56:15,300you money to create something,and then get it into the 2.089900:56:15,300 --> 00:56:18,870spec, that's great. But still,we have all these developers who90000:56:18,870 --> 00:56:23,250are, are walking the hanging onby their fingernails to the90100:56:23,250 --> 00:56:27,660ledge, you know, of justscraping by to to make their90200:56:27,660 --> 00:56:31,830apps work. And it's a huge askto implement something else.90300:56:32,730 --> 00:56:36,480That's my problem. It's like,okay, that's great. You can put90400:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,320a visa put your stuff in there.Yeah. Now, it'd be really easy90500:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,720to say, oh, yeah, you can useVisa card, although you can't90600:56:42,720 --> 00:56:49,080but okay. But that's, that'sjust a part of the equation. And90700:56:49,080 --> 00:56:55,080we spent years, literally years,working with app developers and90800:56:55,110 --> 00:57:00,270hosting companies, and walletproviders to bring this all90900:57:00,270 --> 00:57:05,100together. So, you know, you comeback when you've done some work91000:57:05,100 --> 00:57:06,510is kind of how I feel about it.91100:57:07,020 --> 00:57:10,920Well, that, you know, that'sit's not, it's not necessarily91200:57:13,650 --> 00:57:15,900you know, we just need to, Ithink we just need to all91300:57:15,900 --> 00:57:19,560understand what it is really, Ithink that's the biggest thing.91400:57:19,950 --> 00:57:25,740You know, it looks like, basedon the proposal that Benjamin91500:57:25,740 --> 00:57:30,930Bellamy link to, in again, Ijust want to be as clear as I91600:57:30,930 --> 00:57:35,640can be, this is not a criticismin any way of PRX or anything91700:57:35,640 --> 00:57:42,450like that, but, but they appearat PRX got paid to do that91800:57:42,450 --> 00:57:46,170integration. It was fine. Itlooks like the grant was like91900:57:46,200 --> 00:57:54,600$85,000. So that can't thatgrant came from that coil fund92000:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,420or whatever that thing is. Andcoil is the company that's92100:57:57,420 --> 00:58:02,430pushing this Interledger spec.And so PRX got paid to do that92200:58:02,430 --> 00:58:08,730integration, that's fine. But,you know, if any company's92300:58:08,730 --> 00:58:12,720business plan that involvesgiving away $85,000, to have92400:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,620somebody support your protocol,he's probably going to have in92500:58:16,620 --> 00:58:21,180that same business plan a futurewhere they make a large amount92600:58:21,180 --> 00:58:22,620of money off thatinfrastructure.92700:58:22,710 --> 00:58:25,740Hey, song, I really liked yourr&b song, here's a pink92800:58:25,740 --> 00:58:28,560Cadillac. Yep, don't worry,gotcha cover.92900:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,960Exactly. And that's there.Again, I have no problem with93000:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,660any of this. I just think weeverybody needs, we all need to93100:58:36,660 --> 00:58:41,580understand what the, what thepieces are here, what the what's93200:58:41,580 --> 00:58:45,870going on, so that we can make sowe can have proper understanding93300:58:45,870 --> 00:58:51,270of of, of what we intend tosupport or how we're thinking93400:58:51,270 --> 00:58:55,260about these things. Because Imean, if like if stripe stripe93500:58:55,260 --> 00:58:58,410wanted to stripe wanted to turntheir API into a web standard,93600:58:58,890 --> 00:59:03,120now everybody's going to use thestripe infrastructure. I think93700:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,960we would all agree that's,that's not a open system. No. I93800:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,400mean, would it technically fitthe spec? Yeah. But I don't93900:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,500think we would, we would none ofus would be excited. Because94000:59:16,500 --> 00:59:18,750you're like, Okay, well, you canstill be D platformed. You can94100:59:18,750 --> 00:59:21,210still be taken off, you know,you can still have your payments94200:59:21,210 --> 00:59:24,510revoked, you can still do allthis kind of stuff. And could is94300:59:24,510 --> 00:59:30,030it possible that in the in afuture LSP type infrastructure?94400:59:30,420 --> 00:59:32,730I've talked with Alex aboutthis, we've had good94500:59:32,730 --> 00:59:36,270conversations about the patinaabout what is the future for LSP94600:59:36,270 --> 00:59:39,240type stuff, where where you'resort of renting other people's94700:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,390channels and that kind of thing.You know, there's concerns there94800:59:42,390 --> 00:59:46,560because you know, you could onceyou sort of go out into that94900:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,870world will you know, maybe maybethere's possibility for payment95000:59:51,870 --> 00:59:56,160censorship there. Sure. I don'tI don't know. But, but I guess I95100:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,750keep coming back to95200:59:57,900 --> 01:00:01,020this censorship possibility withget out Be as well, I mean, get95301:00:01,020 --> 01:00:04,680Albey consent, if I'm not sayingI'm just saying, if you're not95401:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,730in, anything's possible in thatregard. And of course, you know,95501:00:08,790 --> 01:00:11,970value for value was neverintended to be censorship95601:00:11,970 --> 01:00:14,580resistant. This was the upgradein my mind.95701:00:15,210 --> 01:00:21,660But I know that if I installed aknow that if I install a, if I95801:00:21,660 --> 01:00:26,070install an app with the fullnotes and libraries, and the95901:00:26,100 --> 01:00:31,560podcaster, I'm trying to supportruns their own node. I know in96001:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,850at least that one scenario, Iknow that payment is going to go96101:00:35,850 --> 01:00:40,890through, nothing's gonna stopit. Right. So So there are lots96201:00:40,890 --> 01:00:44,820of ways that even lightningitself can be, you know, not the96301:00:44,820 --> 01:00:49,320panacea and the Savior that thepeople may think it is. But at96401:00:49,320 --> 01:00:56,310least the protocol spec itselfis adhered to in a very strict96501:00:56,310 --> 01:01:01,980way. That does give you at leastthe promise of that of that96601:01:01,980 --> 01:01:05,220freedom. You know, and I thinkthere's always that fallback,96701:01:05,220 --> 01:01:07,950you know, it's there. But withsomething like internal96801:01:07,950 --> 01:01:12,000Interledger, or, or some othersystem, that not even that96901:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,310prompt that that promise is noteven there,97001:01:14,699 --> 01:01:17,339I would have less of an issuewith it, if you could determine97101:01:17,339 --> 01:01:19,979how much you're giving. BecauseI know there's really no97201:01:19,979 --> 01:01:25,109difference between, you know,sticking your money into coil,97301:01:25,109 --> 01:01:28,289and then, you know, having it goto podcasters on the other end,97401:01:29,219 --> 01:01:32,339but not being able to determinehow much and for the podcast and97501:01:32,339 --> 01:01:34,769not being able to create asplit. I mean, that's just not97601:01:34,769 --> 01:01:37,949value for value. That's a micropayment system. That's gonna be97701:01:37,949 --> 01:01:42,719the same, probably with the LSATsystem. I'm, you know, will the97801:01:42,719 --> 01:01:46,499LSAT, will they support thevalue block? You know, I don't97901:01:46,499 --> 01:01:46,799know,98001:01:47,490 --> 01:01:52,230for 95% of podcasts, this isjust not even an issue. But98101:01:52,230 --> 01:01:56,070there are but there's that lowsingle digit percentage of98201:01:56,070 --> 01:02:00,570podcasts that, that push theenvelope and are going to, you98301:02:00,570 --> 01:02:04,230know, and it's not just it's notjust wacky stuff, I mean, people98401:02:04,260 --> 01:02:07,620who have whistleblowers on theirshow, there's lots of scenarios98501:02:07,620 --> 01:02:11,010that you can think up wheresomebody's monetization would be98601:02:11,010 --> 01:02:15,360threatened. And and there aregoing to be a small percentage98701:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,450of shows out there where thatreally is an issue in legitimate98801:02:18,450 --> 01:02:23,280ways not for not for whatpolitical crap but in legitimate98901:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,880ways that's really an issue ofrepressive regimes Podcast99001:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,520coming out of China who knowsjust think you can think of a99101:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,300dozen if you just sit down for awhile. So this is not an it's99201:02:33,300 --> 01:02:38,760not an issue. The being beingthe platform resistant is not an99301:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,910issue that to take lightly. Itis an important issue. And so I99401:02:41,910 --> 01:02:46,290think that does actually have toplay into the things that we99501:02:46,500 --> 01:02:49,740support and when I mean like,like push, you know, like, Hey,99601:02:49,740 --> 01:02:52,020Rob with the things that we dorah rah for99701:02:52,140 --> 01:02:55,230well, this Yeah, rah rah.Exactly. That's what we started99801:02:55,230 --> 01:02:58,470this for those very reasons.Yeah. People were being thrown99901:02:58,470 --> 01:03:03,720off of Apple podcasts and payPowell was clamping down. That100001:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,760would that's our and, and justby stating that a lot of people100101:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,600didn't like us in the beginningand we never will and never100201:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,200will. And we and we softened ourstance. Oh, by the way, podcast100301:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,860index dot socialist blocked by anumber of of instances because100401:03:19,860 --> 01:03:22,650you know, we're all for freespeech. It's very bad. We're100501:03:22,650 --> 01:03:27,660fascia J sash. news show titlefashio adjacent.100601:03:27,870 --> 01:03:31,710That was one of the reasonsfascia adjacent. I didn't need100701:03:31,740 --> 01:03:36,810what's funny is I didn't evenknow I was a fascist. Now is Sal100801:03:36,810 --> 01:03:42,750Mastodon is FAS, H adjacent howdo they fat? Yeah, if they SHF100901:03:42,750 --> 01:03:43,320bash101001:03:43,350 --> 01:03:47,280fast, Jason kind of like that.That's a that's a bumper101101:03:47,280 --> 01:03:47,760sticker.101201:03:48,690 --> 01:03:52,500It's always fun. It's always funto be for something about101301:03:52,500 --> 01:03:56,130yourself to be revealed to youbuy Rando on social media.101401:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,760Anyway, we wanted to talk aboutjust you know, I mean, it's a101501:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,540big deal. And101601:04:03,540 --> 01:04:06,990I would welcome PRX to, youknow, if they've, if they're101701:04:06,990 --> 01:04:10,590interested, we'll give you allthe liquidity we can give you101801:04:11,190 --> 01:04:14,070if you want me to give you$85,000 But we'll get we'll give101901:04:14,070 --> 01:04:15,210you a channel that will give102001:04:15,210 --> 01:04:18,360you a channel with with millionsof stats, we'll do that we'd102101:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,900love to know if it's already foryou. You're doing the work and102201:04:21,900 --> 01:04:26,580just add a couple things. Idon't think PRX supports any102301:04:26,580 --> 01:04:28,470other value for value system, dothey?102401:04:31,020 --> 01:04:37,590I don't know that they everwould know, I could be you know,102501:04:37,590 --> 01:04:41,550I hope I'm wrong. But I feellike they're the public. The102601:04:41,550 --> 01:04:48,270public radio audience. Probablydisproportionately is or hates102701:04:48,270 --> 01:04:53,700Bitcoin. I mean, I feel likethat's a true statement.102801:04:53,729 --> 01:04:59,639Maybe. Well, if it's if it'sYeah, I mean, yes, if you if you102901:04:59,639 --> 01:05:03,899yeah. crypto. Oh, it's cryptobros. That's That's enough.103001:05:03,899 --> 01:05:04,259Yeah.103101:05:04,860 --> 01:05:09,120Yeah. No, hopefully one daywe'll that stigma will will be103201:05:09,990 --> 01:05:12,510go will go away. But I meanuntil Until then I'm not103301:05:12,510 --> 01:05:15,450expecting to hear Ira Glass oryou know, doing a booster green103401:05:15,450 --> 01:05:16,230corner anytime soon.103501:05:17,940 --> 01:05:21,270It will be hilarious. He'd begreat at it. I'm sure he'd be103601:05:21,270 --> 01:05:24,990fantastic. Yeah, no.103701:05:25,529 --> 01:05:29,669Do you see the Cloudflare? I didthe mastodon game. Yeah, I have103801:05:29,670 --> 01:05:33,060it in the show notes evenfigured we bring that up. So is103901:05:33,060 --> 01:05:37,500that something that the devs canuse to integrate wildebeest and104001:05:37,500 --> 01:05:40,200activity pub and Mastodoncompatible server. So if104101:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,850somebody can just spin up rightaway,104201:05:42,960 --> 01:05:48,870it it appears so they don't knowanything about it yet, because I104301:05:48,870 --> 01:05:55,740just saw Nathan's post about ittoday. And it looks like some104401:05:55,740 --> 01:06:01,680sort of like lightweightcombination of of an activity104501:06:01,680 --> 01:06:06,840pub. With login activity, pubsupporting server,104601:06:07,650 --> 01:06:10,050well, you can do it, you can doit with an API. And you can do104701:06:10,050 --> 01:06:16,470it without images. Which is ahuge savings, huge savings, huge104801:06:16,470 --> 01:06:20,430savings you can do you can100,000 images a month storage104901:06:20,430 --> 01:06:26,010$5 $200,010 $1,000,050, a customblah, blah, blah, but you but105001:06:26,010 --> 01:06:29,130you cannot you can also chooseto not activate it. So it might105101:06:29,130 --> 01:06:32,700be perfect just for for crossapp comments.105201:06:33,390 --> 01:06:36,870That's what it feels like thething that I was about to build.105301:06:36,870 --> 01:06:40,410Yeah. Well, but for the samereason you were building a105401:06:40,410 --> 01:06:46,320bridge with with with helipad,and I'm kind of interested in105501:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,270hearing what you're what youwere planning, or maybe you105601:06:48,270 --> 01:06:51,030already started working on it?Well,105701:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,010I had been, I've not done anycoding yet. But I have it105801:06:56,010 --> 01:06:59,820written some some of the partswritten out on paper, I usually105901:06:59,850 --> 01:07:04,440throw things out on paper first.And so the that was basically106001:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,070what I was looking at is to makeas much of it as into static106101:07:08,070 --> 01:07:11,550files as possible. So there'sthe web finger component, the,106201:07:11,820 --> 01:07:18,120the, the JSON LD, all of thosethings could be just a static106301:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,090files that get updated when,when there's a status change,106401:07:21,630 --> 01:07:25,890then there's the, the sort ofnotification or action part of106501:07:25,890 --> 01:07:30,060it. That's, that's what I wastrying to work on as I was going106601:07:30,060 --> 01:07:34,950to pull in the shell of whathell hell Upad was because it's106701:07:34,950 --> 01:07:38,220got all the pieces that I needthere. And then sort of like,106801:07:38,220 --> 01:07:43,320strip that out and begin tobuild off of that. And then I'm106901:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,980kind of wondering if we're justgoing to give this a shot first.107001:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,120I mean, if it's cheap, if it'slike super dirt cheap. I mean,107101:07:51,120 --> 01:07:51,240I'm,107201:07:52,380 --> 01:07:54,420you know, they have a whole freetier.107301:07:55,590 --> 01:08:00,960Yeah, I mean, I want the stuffthat we build, like Hello, Pat,107401:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,870and things like that. I wantthat stuff to be runnable for by107501:08:03,870 --> 01:08:06,030people in their owninfrastructure, not dependent on107601:08:06,030 --> 01:08:11,580things. But you know, I don'tknow as sometimes I don't know,107701:08:11,580 --> 01:08:15,300I mean, how you'd have to askyourself, well, how many people107801:08:15,300 --> 01:08:18,240are going to run a lightning youknow, Ally need to activity pub107901:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,220bridge, I mean, I don't knowthat that's really going to be108001:08:20,220 --> 01:08:23,190something that lots of peoplewant it to. That's a really108101:08:23,190 --> 01:08:28,260specific niche thing. Sosometimes I don't feel really108201:08:28,290 --> 01:08:32,940like it's worth the time becausewhen you make something when you108301:08:32,940 --> 01:08:35,430make something, oh, it'll beopen whatever we do will be open108401:08:35,430 --> 01:08:39,510source. But I mean, when youmake use something, not only108501:08:39,510 --> 01:08:43,710open source but also when youwhen you curate it and care for108601:08:43,710 --> 01:08:46,740it in a way that lets otherpeople run it on their system.108701:08:46,770 --> 01:08:50,850Yeah, that's, that's you'resigning up for support long term108801:08:51,150 --> 01:08:54,420for a lot of work, a lot of workand a lot of bug fixes and108901:08:54,420 --> 01:08:57,390things like that. And I don'tnot sure this I'm not sure the109001:08:57,390 --> 01:09:00,630trade off here is worth it. ButI don't know maybe I mean, we'll109101:09:00,630 --> 01:09:02,970we'll see this may not work likeI think yeah,109201:09:03,480 --> 01:09:08,430so if I were to describe thisyou were going to do a basically109301:09:08,430 --> 01:09:16,200a mastodon API server in rust.I'm hearing you say109401:09:16,860 --> 01:09:23,700it would be a it would be a USit would be a software that109501:09:23,700 --> 01:09:31,680looks for incoming lightningpayments. That queries a node109601:09:32,550 --> 01:09:37,920for incoming payments. extractsthe TLV sees if the message is109701:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,760is meant to be public or not ifit's okay to for it to be109801:09:41,760 --> 01:09:49,290public. And then if it is itcrossed it posts it to it looks109901:09:49,290 --> 01:09:55,710up the episode information outof the to V gets the root post110001:09:55,710 --> 01:09:58,590from the social interact tag ifthere is one and if there is one110101:09:58,590 --> 01:10:01,650it posts as that As a reply tothat Ruth doll,110201:10:01,650 --> 01:10:04,500that's beautiful. Let me go tochat GPT. Let me ask them to110301:10:04,500 --> 01:10:09,990write the code on. Oh, Chad GPTis at capacity right now. Oh,110401:10:09,990 --> 01:10:11,580no. Oh, that's110501:10:11,580 --> 01:10:14,100$3 million a day hurts. Oh, no,110601:10:14,130 --> 01:10:17,790oh, no. But last server cannotcope the error message rings110701:10:17,790 --> 01:10:19,620loud and clear. Please checkback soon.110801:10:20,249 --> 01:10:22,589You can't even ask it. When it'sgoing to be back up again. You110901:10:22,589 --> 01:10:23,789can get notified when111001:10:23,790 --> 01:10:27,690we're back. And you fill in youremail address. You get111101:10:27,690 --> 01:10:31,260notified when they get moremoney. Can I heard that they111201:10:31,290 --> 01:10:34,080heard that that thing cost like$3 million a day to run?111301:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,180Well, there's a lot of noiseabout this. And I made the bold111401:10:39,180 --> 01:10:41,130prediction on the show. Wedidn't hear yesterday I said111501:10:41,130 --> 01:10:43,290this thing is going to fail.It's gonna be a massive failure.111601:10:43,290 --> 01:10:45,900It's gonna be billions ofdollars and for whatever the111701:10:45,900 --> 01:10:50,220reason is, it's not going totake off just yet. GPT. Yeah.111801:10:51,150 --> 01:10:54,660This whole book I read, and Iactually got it to admit the111901:10:54,660 --> 01:10:58,740other day that it was typing. Hegot it to Oh, yeah, I did. I was112001:10:58,740 --> 01:11:05,190I met. Because it's, yes. Well,it's a trick, you know, what is112101:11:05,190 --> 01:11:08,790the trick? The trick tohumanizes it is it's typing its112201:11:08,790 --> 01:11:13,890answer to you. You know, it's apart in my mind, that's a parlor112301:11:13,890 --> 01:11:16,890trick. You know what I mean?It's like, okay, that's112401:11:16,890 --> 01:11:22,500impressive. But I said, I didn'teven ask a question. I say. He's112501:11:22,500 --> 01:11:26,130typing out the words of I did. Isaid to a statement, it is a112601:11:26,130 --> 01:11:29,430parlor trick. typing out thewords to make you appear more112701:11:29,430 --> 01:11:33,300human in quotes. Answer Yes.providing answers in a way that112801:11:33,300 --> 01:11:36,150is similar to how a human wouldrespond is one way to make the112901:11:36,150 --> 01:11:39,000interaction with the AI feelmore natural and intuitive for113001:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,950users? There you go. It's atrick. So it feels if it just113101:11:43,950 --> 01:11:46,680spit back a block of code, itwouldn't be as exciting.113201:11:48,150 --> 01:11:50,220Yeah, so the only thing thatwould make it better is if it113301:11:50,220 --> 01:11:53,490was in that green screen,monochrome CRT format,113401:11:53,490 --> 01:11:56,010and it ended with would you liketo play a game113501:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,370that would then it would begood. It was all grainy. Yeah.113601:11:59,910 --> 01:12:02,910So it's a parlor trick, really.And it's wrong. I mean, that's113701:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,540really wrong. And that's goingto piss people off.113801:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,710Now, the one thing that I have,I don't have X says to it,113901:12:10,710 --> 01:12:13,710because I didn't want to give itmy personal information. But the114001:12:14,130 --> 01:12:17,340one one thing I don't know thatanybody's asked it is, write114101:12:17,340 --> 01:12:19,680some code that will query thepodcast index.114201:12:19,710 --> 01:12:23,160Okay, hold on. I just got inagain. Let me okay, they114301:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,810get them they get a VC infusion.114401:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,340They got some money. Oh, it'sall spending a lot of time on114501:12:29,340 --> 01:12:34,710signing in. Oh, I don't know. Idon't know you're getting. Wow,114601:12:35,130 --> 01:12:39,540I wish I had the Ms. PacMan sadsound. Well, that may not log114701:12:39,540 --> 01:12:45,210in. Okay. Okay. Oh, wait, I'msorry. Here it is. What was the114801:12:45,210 --> 01:12:45,780question?114901:12:47,460 --> 01:12:53,280ricin code that will querypodcast index for episode data.115001:12:54,450 --> 01:13:01,530Podcast index. I'll do.org andgive it a help write some code115101:13:01,620 --> 01:13:06,120that will query? Because that'swhat you said.115201:13:06,150 --> 01:13:08,070Yeah, no, no, I'm laughing tomyself.115301:13:08,550 --> 01:13:10,860No query the podcast,115401:13:11,610 --> 01:13:12,780index API115501:13:12,810 --> 01:13:14,370index API115601:13:15,090 --> 01:13:16,680for episode data.115701:13:17,610 --> 01:13:26,160For Episode Episode data. Allright. Let's go. Here's some115801:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,250Python code that uses therequest library to query the115901:13:29,250 --> 01:13:31,650podcast API for episode data.116001:13:32,550 --> 01:13:35,400Podcast API was a podcast API,116101:13:36,210 --> 01:13:40,650a podcast index API. I'm sorry,it's writing import requests. It116201:13:40,650 --> 01:13:44,340has a URL for the module episodeAPI dot podcast116301:13:44,340 --> 01:13:52,320index.org/api/one.zero. Episodeslash bi underscore feed. Let me116401:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,960send this code. Let me send thiscode to you Dave. I'm not sure116501:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,010if it's actually code.116601:13:56,610 --> 01:13:59,430I wonder if you go, what if itjust basically just scraped the116701:13:59,430 --> 01:14:00,420GitHub repo?116801:14:02,370 --> 01:14:05,970Out? In my mind, it gives me awhole explanation. Oh, they've116901:14:05,970 --> 01:14:08,010got more code. Oh, goodness.117001:14:09,030 --> 01:14:10,440What's it doing now as117101:14:10,530 --> 01:14:13,260much as in the code above, wefirst I sent it to you on117201:14:13,260 --> 01:14:16,470signal. We first import therequest library. Then we defined117301:14:16,470 --> 01:14:21,240the base URL for the podcast.It's basically just it gets the117401:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,150response to JSON. And117501:14:25,980 --> 01:14:27,180that's completely wrong.117601:14:28,290 --> 01:14:30,360Even I can see this is wrong.This is wrong.117701:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,930It's showing you through zationtokens. It's showing117801:14:33,930 --> 01:14:36,480you how to access an APIbasically is not held117901:14:36,480 --> 01:14:40,980feeds.megaphone.fm/some podcastdash feed, okay.118001:14:41,580 --> 01:14:43,800Well, that's not even they don'teven get our API endpoint,118101:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,950right? It's not episodes slashby underscore feed. That's118201:14:46,950 --> 01:14:47,520wrong.118301:14:47,850 --> 01:14:53,550Well, how come my code doesn'twork? Put in the code didn't118401:14:53,550 --> 01:14:54,210work.118501:14:57,900 --> 01:15:00,750Let's see what it says somebodyin Marmo or somebody is going to118601:15:00,750 --> 01:15:03,930email us and say, Hey, I gotthis code and it doesn't work.118701:15:03,930 --> 01:15:05,850Can you help me troubleshoot andit's gonna be this crap.118801:15:08,130 --> 01:15:09,330Anyway, it spending,118901:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,240I'm gonna say 24 hours you giveme 24 hours.119001:15:13,349 --> 01:15:16,019It's been it's spending a lot oftime telling me why why it's not119101:15:16,019 --> 01:15:20,579gonna work. Okay, fine. Allright, so it's not all that119201:15:20,579 --> 01:15:21,059impressive.119301:15:21,330 --> 01:15:22,140Gotcha. Yes.119401:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,820Ah, all right. What else do wehave to talk about? I have a119501:15:26,820 --> 01:15:29,340couple of things here. What doyou have anything on your oh, I119601:15:29,340 --> 01:15:33,660want to thank blueberry, I puttwo links in, in the show notes.119701:15:33,900 --> 01:15:39,570For the it's the boost bots,code, GitHub, and the iron119801:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,960cacophony, which is theframework for triggering sounds119901:15:42,960 --> 01:15:48,300via IRC. So great name, but I'dlove to have an umbrella app or120001:15:48,300 --> 01:15:51,180something or something that thatjust runs this stuff. Because120101:15:51,420 --> 01:15:56,070clearly my chat GPT is not goingto be able to help me. I'd love120201:15:57,390 --> 01:16:01,050I'd love to have this, you know,firing different sounds. It's120301:16:01,050 --> 01:16:03,180cool. It's really, really cool.I like it a lot.120401:16:04,980 --> 01:16:08,880I got. So I've been playingaround with Nathan gathright.120501:16:08,940 --> 01:16:11,730We're talking a lot about himtoday. He he's actually going to120601:16:11,730 --> 01:16:15,240be on the show soon. Post this,get him on Nathan, Nathan G.120701:16:15,360 --> 01:16:20,070From from Nathan gathright. He'sworked for Spotify. Now. He's120801:16:22,470 --> 01:16:27,870they just He's all over podcastindex dot social. He's real120901:16:27,870 --> 01:16:34,770helpful. Good guy. Right. But hewrote a he wrote a podcast,121001:16:35,430 --> 01:16:44,520image API using Cloudflareworkers. And he's showing me how121101:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,240he sent me the code, show me howto deploy it. And it works121201:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,610great. So I've been playingaround with that that's the same121301:16:50,610 --> 01:16:53,550as the thing we've been tryingto build for years, you know,121401:16:53,550 --> 01:16:56,130multiple times too. Sobasically, you can just ask it121501:16:56,130 --> 01:17:03,420for a you can just ask it for aan image of a feed of a feed121601:17:03,420 --> 01:17:06,930GUID. You can just say, here'sthe feed good. And I need an121701:17:06,930 --> 01:17:12,510image. Any I need its image andI want it to be this size. And121801:17:12,510 --> 01:17:13,530it will just give all121901:17:13,530 --> 01:17:16,710right, right? How beautiful.You've been working on that?122001:17:17,250 --> 01:17:19,860No, it will. I've been playingaround with the code. He wrote,122101:17:19,890 --> 01:17:23,160oh, cool. Works great. Ideployed it to our Cloudflare122201:17:25,380 --> 01:17:27,930you know, instance, or schema orwhatever you want to call that122301:17:27,930 --> 01:17:31,470tenant, or Cloudflare tenant,and it works. It works killer.122401:17:31,470 --> 01:17:35,550And so I want to I gotta haveget some a little bit more time122501:17:35,550 --> 01:17:40,800to, to play with and see it,make sure I fully understand how122601:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,590it's working. And thenhopefully, we can get him on the122701:17:43,590 --> 01:17:46,590show. Because he's also buildingsteno.fm. You know, the122801:17:46,590 --> 01:17:47,190transcript.122901:17:48,420 --> 01:17:51,060Right. Okay. Now I know whatyou're talking about. Yes, yes.123001:17:51,510 --> 01:17:55,410So hopefully, when he gets sometraction on that, it gets ready123101:17:55,410 --> 01:17:57,960for that we'll have him on, wejust go over all of it at the123201:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,930same time. But it's prettykiller. And I'm Hope I'm hoping123301:18:00,930 --> 01:18:03,240that this will solve people'sproblems, because now you can123401:18:03,240 --> 01:18:07,320just have one cause enabledplace to request images, you123501:18:07,320 --> 01:18:12,060don't have to have 4 milliondifferent your domains, the jet123601:18:12,060 --> 01:18:14,700request images from and they'reall stand, they're all123701:18:14,700 --> 01:18:17,970normalized. You don't have toworry about getting back a PDF.123801:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,840Yeah, no, it's great. It'sexactly it's working exactly123901:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,070like what, when124001:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,120any that anyone can set up andthen run themselves.124101:18:30,780 --> 01:18:33,630Yeah, he's published the code isopen, aka beautiful.124201:18:33,660 --> 01:18:36,120I want that on my own bro, too.I want all of it on my Umbral124301:18:36,480 --> 01:18:40,890does not, this is not only notonly Umbral friendly, no,124401:18:41,130 --> 01:18:43,680yes, yeah, you have to youdeploy it, you essentially you124501:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,340download it, you download theyou clone the repo and then you124601:18:47,730 --> 01:18:51,360put in your Cloudflareinformation and you deploy the124701:18:51,360 --> 01:18:57,570code to your Cloudflare workers.And it will then begin to do124801:18:57,570 --> 01:19:01,560your thing, because you set up adumb a specific subdomain to124901:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,350call that Cloudflare. worker andthen that's how you interact125001:19:04,350 --> 01:19:08,370with it. It's great, cool. It'sgreat.125101:19:08,550 --> 01:19:11,310But I mean, all these things arejust, you're right. I think125201:19:11,310 --> 01:19:14,070we've got a lot we have a lot ofserious development going on125301:19:14,070 --> 01:19:15,690recently. It feels really good.125401:19:16,290 --> 01:19:20,790It does. Yeah, it does. It feelsgood to have a big a bunch of a125501:19:20,790 --> 01:19:27,000bunch of good solid developmentgoing on. Yeah. During, in a in125601:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,630a mature project is not theearly days anymore, you know,125701:19:30,630 --> 01:19:33,240mean things or we've been we'vebeen here a while now. And so125801:19:33,540 --> 01:19:37,290there's still big nice progressbeing made, which is it's a good125901:19:37,290 --> 01:19:38,280feeling. It's good feel,126001:19:38,490 --> 01:19:43,170shall we thank a few people. Sowe can Yeah, because we were126101:19:43,170 --> 01:19:45,930playing around so much before westarted the show talking about126201:19:45,930 --> 01:19:50,100cars, which I apologize to thepodcast listeners because it was126301:19:50,100 --> 01:19:50,760good stuff.126401:19:53,730 --> 01:19:54,600Tune in early.126501:19:55,020 --> 01:19:57,510That's right when you want itwhen we go live. You want to be126601:19:57,510 --> 01:20:03,420there. Let's he kick it off herewith these are the live boosts126701:20:03,420 --> 01:20:06,240came in. And as you guys youheard we don't take money from126801:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,680corporations we don't useadvertising, your support of126901:20:10,830 --> 01:20:15,600podcasts index, the showpodcasting 2.0 supports podcast127001:20:15,600 --> 01:20:20,160index.org directly it goes intopaying bills it additionally127101:20:20,370 --> 01:20:25,200goes into providing liquidity.Anybody who has a node or wants127201:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,260them wants a channel, we'rehappy to give it to you not a127301:20:28,260 --> 01:20:32,130problem at all. Even if itscrews up and closes we'll open127401:20:32,130 --> 01:20:36,420up a new one. That stuff happensso we're happy to do it. Anyone127501:20:36,420 --> 01:20:40,440who needs it and yeah, it keepseverything rolling. And you can127601:20:40,440 --> 01:20:43,260do that by going to podcastindex.org If you want to while127701:20:43,260 --> 01:20:46,560it's still possible before thefashio adjacent is no longer127801:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,620possible on Pay Pal you can sendus your Fiat fun coupons, the127901:20:49,620 --> 01:20:54,990big red donate button we alsohave a tally coin QR code there128001:20:54,990 --> 01:20:59,520which you can hit with lightningor with on chain Bitcoin. And of128101:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,120course through any of the modernpodcast that you can podcast128201:21:03,120 --> 01:21:08,040apps, you can get a new podcastapps.com Now with HTTPS and128301:21:10,020 --> 01:21:16,110coming in from fountainFletcher, what 14,141 SATs 14141128401:21:16,110 --> 01:21:22,530Have I been annexed by fascists?Oh yeah, you have Mike Newman128501:21:22,890 --> 01:21:30,840123456 Boost boost boost verynice man. Shot Caller 20 blades128601:21:30,870 --> 01:21:34,560on him follow these days that'sa you know Bitcoin moving128701:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,070towards 20,000 That's nice MikeNewman celebrating get Albion128801:21:38,070 --> 01:21:42,810fountain.fm joining the partyeasing the Fiat to freedom128901:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,910Yeah, thank you much. Thanks,129001:21:44,910 --> 01:21:50,910Bruce. And that week that camein from pod verse next we have129101:21:52,200 --> 01:21:57,150see no name we got Eric p p33,333. Thank you very much.129201:21:57,510 --> 01:22:03,420Dobby das who actually prompt usrot Lu is that our Oh okay.129301:22:03,420 --> 01:22:06,690Right prompted me to get theHTTPS thing working Thank you129401:22:06,690 --> 01:22:13,110very much. 17,777 this like astraight up striper boost, I129501:22:13,110 --> 01:22:18,210guess one one striper boost chatF 3333. He says I've been using129601:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,700lb with POD verse and iOS forthe past month and it's been129701:22:20,700 --> 01:22:26,310rock solid agree. There'sblueberry 33,333 Does anyone129801:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,940present have an opinion on anopen source solution to substack129901:22:29,940 --> 01:22:32,970for weekly newsletters shownotes will be nice to link130001:22:32,970 --> 01:22:36,720inside the article for headersto headers for chapters. Also130101:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,690finally got some inspiration forvalue for value GIF art for the130201:22:39,690 --> 01:22:40,830lips get pumped.130301:22:42,000 --> 01:22:47,520Alex recommended to me the otherday write freely. And130401:22:48,090 --> 01:22:51,840I've liked it. That's a coollittle thing. Yes, I agree. That130501:22:51,840 --> 01:22:52,110is good.130601:22:52,110 --> 01:22:55,080I think that's a good I thinkthat think his use of it is130701:22:55,140 --> 01:22:57,480enough endorsement for me to get130801:22:59,340 --> 01:23:02,82010,000 SATs from Chad F who wasclearly listening listening to130901:23:02,820 --> 01:23:07,650the pregame. He says nothingscreams X MTV VJ like an El131001:23:07,650 --> 01:23:08,400Camino131101:23:10,650 --> 01:23:14,250is that the chosen vehicle?vixen TVs only131201:23:14,250 --> 01:23:19,350if you have the vanity plate.MTV rocks are Oh X. Okay. By the131301:23:19,350 --> 01:23:24,960way when I was at MTV, and Ijust had registered mtv.com I131401:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,000had mtv.com has a license plate131501:23:27,690 --> 01:23:30,090that you get the DoD you throwit in with a sharpie Exactly.131601:23:31,470 --> 01:23:34,500Martin Linda's code with a rowof ducks soon talking with Mr.131701:23:34,500 --> 01:23:38,400Palmer's talk listen to you guyslater on. Oh, okay. The Tea131801:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,610Party media podcast. Thank you.We have Dred Scott. Pre131901:23:41,610 --> 01:23:48,390boosting. You says 88,888. Gopodcasting. Thank you. Very132001:23:48,390 --> 01:23:51,330nice. 1000 SATs. Gosh, sorry,132101:23:51,449 --> 01:23:54,749by the way, Mike Newman. Itgives a baller bass while ago.132201:23:54,749 --> 01:24:00,209He is the maintainer of the teamrepo that keeps credit where132301:24:00,209 --> 01:24:03,059credit is due. Oh, excellent.Excellent. Excellent.132401:24:05,220 --> 01:24:08,400Where are we Sockeye? The horsewith 1000 No, no, thank you.132501:24:09,390 --> 01:24:12,810Thank you Sockeye. Boop,donation. No, that's not the132601:24:12,810 --> 01:24:17,250sound that I'm looking at my myhelipad, that's why I'm mixing132701:24:17,250 --> 01:24:21,810it up here. I think thatactually that was it. We had a132801:24:21,870 --> 01:24:24,210no this is five hours ago.That's that's the delimiter132901:24:24,210 --> 01:24:28,110comics reblog. Okay, so over toyou, Dave. Would you've got the133001:24:28,500 --> 01:24:30,600pay pals the boost, and themonthlies.133101:24:31,050 --> 01:24:34,830We have no paper towels, zeropaper towels. We got monthlies,133201:24:34,830 --> 01:24:37,710but we don't have any one. Oh,we are transitioning.133301:24:37,980 --> 01:24:41,850We are we are off off the papertowels. I'm really happy because133401:24:41,850 --> 01:24:45,810we we still have money. We canstill pay the bills. So this is133501:24:45,810 --> 01:24:47,790good. Thank you all. Thank youall very much.133601:24:48,510 --> 01:24:52,470I'm the I'm waiting to see howthat's another reason I'm133701:24:53,730 --> 01:24:58,290proceeding cautiously with thepodcast with Nathan's podcast133801:24:58,290 --> 01:25:01,230image repo code on one waitingto see how this impacts the133901:25:01,230 --> 01:25:05,070bottom line. Yeah, on theCloudflare thinks I don't134001:25:05,550 --> 01:25:09,390looking at the pricing table. Ifeel pretty good about it. I134101:25:09,390 --> 01:25:11,130don't think it's going to be akiller. What's our134201:25:11,130 --> 01:25:17,490Cloudflare Bill these days? It'slike Cloud sandbox. 7080 bucks.134301:25:17,850 --> 01:25:24,240Yes. $70 $75 Something likethat. And then our Linode bill134401:25:24,750 --> 01:25:29,880is around 500 Yeah, yes, it'sit's I think it's I think it's134501:25:29,880 --> 01:25:35,220Cloudflare is like 7070 bucks.I'm like that. I'll get Yeah,134601:25:35,220 --> 01:25:38,670but we do have some bootcamps wegot the 500 from in a millennial134701:25:39,030 --> 01:25:41,460says love hearing from Mitch andlove pod verse boosted through134801:25:41,460 --> 01:25:43,140fountain for maximum irony.134901:25:45,090 --> 01:25:47,070Yes, well done. Yes.135001:25:47,999 --> 01:25:55,649Chimp sits as 97,531 SATsthrough. Nice is boosting from135101:25:55,649 --> 01:25:57,779Miami, home of the FTX arena.135201:25:59,820 --> 01:26:03,120By the way, I saw in the newfountain there was like an135301:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,840activity stream on the homepagenow. I saw you boosting a135401:26:06,840 --> 01:26:11,610podcast with 200,000 SATs youballer you ball ball. You know135501:26:11,610 --> 01:26:14,430what that you know what thatdid? To me? It made me subscribe135601:26:14,430 --> 01:26:16,230to that podcast. Oh,135701:26:16,230 --> 01:26:18,510I thought you're gonna sayashamed you into sin descending135801:26:18,510 --> 01:26:18,990bigger booth.135901:26:19,020 --> 01:26:21,450No, I didn't. I've never I don'tknow what podcast that was I136001:26:21,450 --> 01:26:24,840just whatever it is. Then this,by the way is your podcast136101:26:24,840 --> 01:26:29,160discovery. This is yourdiscovery. When I see when I see136201:26:29,160 --> 01:26:34,020Dave Jones. liking somethingwith 200,000 SATs. I'm like I'm136301:26:34,020 --> 01:26:37,050gonna I'm gonna subscribe. I'lllisten to it later. It's got to136401:26:37,050 --> 01:26:37,500be good.136501:26:38,100 --> 01:26:40,830That's a bunch of buddies ofmine that do a Dungeons and136601:26:40,830 --> 01:26:45,420Dragons podcast and they'relike, it's funny. It's just so136701:26:45,420 --> 01:26:45,990that's136801:26:45,990 --> 01:26:47,880what that is. Okay, I'm gonnadescribe136901:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,270it was it was funny becausebecause their their DNA. Their137001:26:54,270 --> 01:26:57,630d&d campaign is set in Colemanat Coleman County, Alabama.137101:26:59,310 --> 01:27:03,780What's interesting now when Iliked your comment, for some137201:27:03,780 --> 01:27:10,170reason it was 420 shots. I thinkit does like a multiple of so137301:27:10,170 --> 01:27:14,880you had I have my my minute Satsare always set to 200 SATs a137401:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,000minute. So because it was a twoso I guess it because it was137501:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,380200,000 SATs. It took that itadded the 20 And it turned out137601:27:22,380 --> 01:27:26,520to be 420 which I just thoughtwas funny by itself. Whatever137701:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,800fountain is doing I like ityou're taking my money and I'm137801:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,600feeling good about it. So welldone.137901:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,130What is looking at fountainscharts here because I was138001:27:35,370 --> 01:27:39,180because they just brought theirpodcast back because it had been138101:27:39,180 --> 01:27:41,460gone for a while and I was likeI'm gonna I'm gonna give him a138201:27:41,460 --> 01:27:44,760big baller boost to try to getthem up on the charts here. But138301:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,540I don't know how these thingsare calculated. So game the138401:27:48,540 --> 01:27:48,930system,138501:27:49,020 --> 01:27:53,400smoke and mirrors man smokedoesn't matter. I'm always happy138601:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,160when there's someone else on topbecause one of the shows I'm138701:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,250doing it's like, it makes itsomebody else please.138801:28:00,630 --> 01:28:03,480That your modesty just somemodest No, I138901:28:04,050 --> 01:28:06,450don't really like leaderboardsand charts. But you know, I'm139001:28:06,450 --> 01:28:09,390not going to tell them not toput us on it. Because of course139101:28:09,390 --> 01:28:11,820Tina gets a big kick out ofseeing Corinne the keeper on the139201:28:11,820 --> 01:28:12,330list139301:28:12,869 --> 01:28:19,049this year. Okay, Martin LindaSkog. 2222 Row ducks he says139401:28:19,049 --> 01:28:24,209Dave, did you get my late 2022Booster gram of 123456 Satoshis139501:28:24,329 --> 01:28:25,109Yes, the missing139601:28:25,590 --> 01:28:28,230Oh, we found that we found thefirst one. Yes. Okay. Yes139701:28:33,390 --> 01:28:37,800I did find it. And I printed itout. And it's upstairs.139801:28:38,820 --> 01:28:41,640Well done. Well done, sir. Okay,sir.139901:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,700Cool. Double make good nextweek.140001:28:46,110 --> 01:28:47,670All right, you better write thatdown.140101:28:48,060 --> 01:28:49,290I am. I'm ready to see.140201:28:50,100 --> 01:28:52,590I'm gonna put it in the shownotes myself. I'm a reminder140301:28:52,590 --> 01:28:54,420hornsund is going to pop up forme. I really140401:28:54,870 --> 01:28:56,160just know.140501:28:57,570 --> 01:29:00,660This is the ultimate way to dovalue for value people. This is140601:29:00,660 --> 01:29:01,590how you do it.140701:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,350Jean being 2222 through fountainhe says regarding Mastodon and140801:29:07,350 --> 01:29:11,970sidekick at NOVA at Hackettderm.io and team are looking at140901:29:11,970 --> 01:29:16,890the scalability and alternativesolutions. Okay. All right. All141001:29:16,890 --> 01:29:20,970right. Good luck, Nova. Yep. Jemean again 2222 through fountain141101:29:20,970 --> 01:29:24,030he says, oh, yikes. I had noidea episode splits were not141201:29:24,030 --> 01:29:28,140supported by pod verse. Well,they are. No no,141301:29:28,140 --> 01:29:31,050no, no, no, no, those are not.That's not and that's a real141401:29:31,050 --> 01:29:31,590problem.141501:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,250That's right. I'm on Buzzsproutand like most hosts, they direct141601:29:35,250 --> 01:29:39,120me to the podcaster wallet rightnow. Well, Pa episode splits141701:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,460aren't on podcast or walleteither. So that's141801:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,180why I thought you could doepisode splits. I guess you141901:29:45,180 --> 01:29:48,450can't do them on podcast a whileonly only show level.142001:29:50,010 --> 01:29:52,590That's right. Yeah, grumble?142101:29:52,620 --> 01:29:55,290Yeah, that is that is a groanbecause I really rely on this142201:29:55,290 --> 01:29:59,970and I feel kind of bad becausewe have people listening on pod142301:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,410URLs to the list shows and andthe await no agenda does do it142401:30:04,410 --> 01:30:06,570at the show level. Okay. Yeah,142501:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,680you do. I think you do itwhenever. I think you put it at142601:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,460the show level also each weeklike when there's a new person,142701:30:14,460 --> 01:30:14,790right?142801:30:15,450 --> 01:30:20,730I know agenda Yes, but not onpodcasting. 2.0 I just I've just142901:30:20,730 --> 01:30:22,560always been doing it at theepisode level.143001:30:23,370 --> 01:30:28,260Yeah. Okay, there's Mitch. ALIX.Okay. Yes, he didn't last week.143101:30:28,740 --> 01:30:31,200All right. Yeah, I'll revisitthat at some point. I'll get143201:30:31,230 --> 01:30:35,700I'll put it in the chat F50,000. Sets. Do pod verse no143301:30:35,700 --> 01:30:36,540note No, thank143401:30:36,540 --> 01:30:37,050you very much.143501:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,500Just give me do a no chair.143601:30:40,530 --> 01:30:42,090No man. Notice.143701:30:42,510 --> 01:30:48,000Note. No Python booster. Genebeen again 2222 says Dave, can143801:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,320you see no Dave You can changeMastodon to where all signups143901:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,870have to be approved. Foster Dondoes it yes, we do this too.144001:30:55,170 --> 01:30:55,650That's right.144101:30:56,490 --> 01:31:00,000Three Three boosts from Gene Fboost boost boost. Boost.144201:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,530James Cridland 1001 throughfountain he says great episode144301:31:04,530 --> 01:31:07,050super good to hear everyonepulling towards cross app144401:31:07,050 --> 01:31:10,890comments in a way that can workfor everyone go podcasting. Now144501:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,340last week's episode was great.It was very productive 1001144601:31:14,340 --> 01:31:19,590SATs you don't get to gopodcasting in a movie boost by144701:31:19,590 --> 01:31:23,940Central 77,777 Saturday's showthe other day144801:31:25,110 --> 01:31:29,250Oh yeah. That's mega striper.That's an arena striper arena144901:31:37,020 --> 01:31:42,510with a Keto is Yeah, I thought Ithought last week's episode was145001:31:42,510 --> 01:31:46,950great was great. When you haveprofessionals on the show145101:31:47,160 --> 01:31:51,120instead of those two Yahoo'sthings get done it you know,145201:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,900that's what I liked about theepisode. I it was definitely not145301:31:54,900 --> 01:31:59,280for everybody. But I agree thatit was it was an you had done145401:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,250this on purpose and I liked it alot you brought in the people145501:32:02,250 --> 01:32:07,230who could actually cut throughthe crap and and figure it out.145601:32:07,440 --> 01:32:11,280And we made some I think we hadsome conclusions and that145701:32:11,370 --> 01:32:14,550sparked good stuff with thepeople. It surely was a board145801:32:14,550 --> 01:32:16,500meeting conversation. Yeah.145901:32:17,550 --> 01:32:24,060I know when we need the charityto come in, give us in and give146001:32:24,060 --> 01:32:26,490us some in whip us into shape.146101:32:26,789 --> 01:32:28,619Yes, you do. You do.146201:32:29,159 --> 01:32:34,889Appreciate Alex coming on. AndMitch both. Roland 1000 SATs he146301:32:34,889 --> 01:32:38,399says I set up my V for V podcastwith anchor LB and podcaster146401:32:38,399 --> 01:32:40,499wallet. We'll go Roland. Goodjob dude.146501:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,500All right, buddy. Host Mike Dell146601:32:43,530 --> 01:32:46,89022 to 22 Big row ducks throughpod verse. He says blueberry is146701:32:46,890 --> 01:32:52,620podcasting. 2.0 certified.That's right. You are146801:32:54,060 --> 01:32:56,790that's that's really big. AndI'm really excited that the146901:32:56,790 --> 01:33:01,350blueberry is John that tip. Thatleaves leaves only Lipson right,147001:33:01,350 --> 01:33:05,850who are just slagging. What areyou laughing at me?147101:33:06,180 --> 01:33:09,360Why are you rapping? No, I'm araffinate. Lipson.147201:33:10,289 --> 01:33:14,039You know, curdling keeps hintingthe funny that a podcast company147301:33:14,039 --> 01:33:17,099will go bankrupt this year. AndI can't help it. But I always147401:33:17,099 --> 01:33:17,819hear Lipson,147501:33:18,420 --> 01:33:21,780my mind, they're not going backto I know who it is. You know147601:33:21,780 --> 01:33:25,710who it is, how it's going, butI've got I've got my I've got my147701:33:25,710 --> 01:33:28,470theory about who's going oh, youhave a theory. Okay. All right.147801:33:28,470 --> 01:33:32,100Yes, I can. I'm not going tohurt his feelings.147901:33:32,130 --> 01:33:39,150No. Can we can we help them? No,no. Okay. All right. Done. All148001:33:39,150 --> 01:33:39,540right.148101:33:40,860 --> 01:33:44,430Mike Dell, I mean, hold on. I'msorry. I'm sorry.148201:33:45,780 --> 01:33:48,690You say we can help them?Whatever it is, someone's having148301:33:48,690 --> 01:33:52,140a financial issue. I'm reallygood at helping people raise148401:33:52,140 --> 01:33:56,310money. And if it's if it'ssomeone that, you know, that148501:33:56,310 --> 01:33:59,460wants to be helped, I mean, I'mI just don't want to laugh it148601:33:59,460 --> 01:34:02,910off. Is there any way we canhelp this company?148701:34:04,140 --> 01:34:07,080I want to be clear that I don'tI don't have inside information.148801:34:07,110 --> 01:34:11,670I just know that. I just have mytheory about because I've been148901:34:11,670 --> 01:34:15,510thinking this for about sixmonths already. That when with149001:34:15,510 --> 01:34:18,390the economy, and we're startingto see we're starting to see149101:34:18,390 --> 01:34:23,850layoffs. Not just layoffs on onbig companies, but layoffs on149201:34:24,270 --> 01:34:28,170they're starting to hit thesmaller companies too. Yeah. And149301:34:28,290 --> 01:34:32,460and I think I think the next sixto 12 months is going to be149401:34:32,460 --> 01:34:37,230painful. For sure. Yeah. So Idon't I don't know like no149501:34:37,230 --> 01:34:41,490anything. No, like No, no it butif it's the if it's the company149601:34:41,490 --> 01:34:46,590that I've thought of for thelast few months, no, no, there's149701:34:46,590 --> 01:34:48,240no there's no turning149801:34:49,290 --> 01:34:53,580moments to bad yeah, I will sayif anyone needs help raising149901:34:53,580 --> 01:34:56,910money or any kind of issues, wegladly he's here to help if we150001:34:56,910 --> 01:34:59,790can always always, always happyto help150101:35:00,989 --> 01:35:04,139And I'll say that I think thateverybody would be better off if150201:35:04,139 --> 01:35:07,169it actually happened. 204 anchor150301:35:07,380 --> 01:35:12,210or anchor anchors are alreadysafe.150401:35:15,150 --> 01:35:17,250Yeah, we need to get tied mikeback on the show. I mean, they150501:35:17,250 --> 01:35:19,950just been we gotta get an updatefrom the horse's mouth.150601:35:20,250 --> 01:35:23,010We got we got Oscar Murraycoming up first, I think150701:35:23,340 --> 01:35:28,260next week. Yeah. And then we'renot sure when I can get Nathan150801:35:28,260 --> 01:35:31,590on. It depends on him. And thenI'll, we'll get we'll get Todd150901:35:31,590 --> 01:35:32,130and Miko,151001:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,250excellent. Well, because now isthe time that when people151101:35:35,250 --> 01:35:38,100release something big, this iswhere we need to come on the151201:35:38,100 --> 01:35:41,220show. Let's talk about what'spromoted. Hopefully, somewhere151301:35:41,220 --> 01:35:44,760in the next few weeks, we'llalso have Ibex will complete151401:35:44,760 --> 01:35:50,370their lightning node. I mean,they have the invoice part and151501:35:50,370 --> 01:35:53,790it goes because they they canpay you out in Bitcoin or in US151601:35:53,790 --> 01:35:57,960dollars through your bankaccount, which is a big deal for151701:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,600a lot of people who who want todo it that way.151801:36:01,110 --> 01:36:03,570And I said, targeting, you'retargeting to one right, you're151901:36:03,570 --> 01:36:05,340targeting to one? Yeah, I152001:36:05,340 --> 01:36:08,820mean, I literally just asked foran update today. It's like, you152101:36:08,820 --> 01:36:12,000know, if, because, you know, ifyou get that done, then we'll152201:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,440promote it will help you.152301:36:14,130 --> 01:36:16,050What if they say that they'regonna switch everything to web152401:36:16,050 --> 01:36:16,980monetization?152501:36:18,720 --> 01:36:25,290Well, it's not fair to try andtease me like that. That's to152601:36:25,290 --> 01:36:26,640say bad things.152701:36:28,050 --> 01:36:32,040Taking a grant from web. We'regonna change our business model.152801:36:33,990 --> 01:36:37,080I love by the way that theeconomy is going to shit and it152901:36:37,080 --> 01:36:42,780doesn't matter if we fire eitherof us. It doesn't save any153001:36:42,780 --> 01:36:43,170money.153101:36:45,420 --> 01:36:48,120That's the good thing aboutbeing cheap. You don't have to153201:36:48,120 --> 01:36:52,410worry about these job security.That's right. Yeah. Thank you,153301:36:52,410 --> 01:36:55,710Mike. Appreciate that. Mike Dellagain. 1500 SAS the fountain, he153401:36:55,710 --> 01:37:00,330says, leaning out my fountainwallet. Okay, all right. I'm153501:37:00,330 --> 01:37:03,420gonna be leaning out. Oh, boySchonfeld look who showed up153601:37:03,450 --> 01:37:09,360Hey, Roy 54 321 from breezy saysgo podcast.153701:37:09,570 --> 01:37:14,220And we love that podcast. He isthe only lightning related153801:37:14,220 --> 01:37:19,410company LSP like company thathas ever supported us. Never153901:37:19,410 --> 01:37:22,950seen anything from lightninglabs or any of those guys. I154001:37:22,950 --> 01:37:23,760mean, the Bitcoin154101:37:23,790 --> 01:37:27,540the Bitcoin guys. They talk bigbut they never send any, any any154201:37:27,540 --> 01:37:28,200SATs. No.154301:37:28,530 --> 01:37:31,410And you know, and any one ofthem could send us a full coin.154401:37:32,159 --> 01:37:39,509Yeah. Oh, we've gotten moreSATs, excluding ROI. We've154501:37:39,509 --> 01:37:46,469gotten more SATs from Brian andhive and we have from the154601:37:46,469 --> 01:37:47,189Bitcoin table154701:37:47,430 --> 01:37:51,180and look at the sink it Yeah,but look at all the app guys.154801:37:51,750 --> 01:37:59,220Fountain supports us. Pod versesupports us. Several hosting154901:37:59,220 --> 01:38:06,960companies support us. rss.comBuzzsprout blueberry, you know,155001:38:07,140 --> 01:38:10,530these. Thank you. Just thank youso much. Thank you for and when155101:38:10,530 --> 01:38:12,600I say support, I mean you'rereturning value. That's really155201:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,920what you're doing. That's nice.It feels good. Oh, man. Molina's155301:38:16,920 --> 01:38:21,210cooking something really good.Smell good. Friday, yeah,155401:38:21,210 --> 01:38:22,500Friday, Friday. He's155501:38:22,500 --> 01:38:24,360cooking at 220 in the afternoon.155601:38:24,750 --> 01:38:27,720My girl My girl is fantastic,bro. I tell you.155701:38:29,370 --> 01:38:30,240Is this a PA?155801:38:30,990 --> 01:38:34,410You know, I I made her gothrough all of the apps doing155901:38:34,410 --> 01:38:39,660all of the sign up. She's sobrave. She's so brave. She is156001:38:39,660 --> 01:38:42,810great because you know, she isnot afraid but she'll just like156101:38:42,810 --> 01:38:45,600hey, I don't understand thisstop stop the train.156201:38:47,430 --> 01:38:51,900That's well, I mean that's,that's valuable information.156301:38:52,590 --> 01:38:56,730I'm sorry. It's just I smelledthis this meal. There's cooking156401:38:56,730 --> 01:38:58,440like I got hypnotized.156501:39:01,500 --> 01:39:04,470Anonymous 10,000 SATs Thank youanonymous. That was the partners156601:39:04,470 --> 01:39:08,490interesting. Nomad Joe nomad.Joe since 2000 sets your156701:39:08,490 --> 01:39:11,430founding sis, thanks for assetaccess to the board meeting.156801:39:11,460 --> 01:39:12,090Well, you're welcome.156901:39:13,470 --> 01:39:15,960Come on anytime you want todonate157001:39:15,960 --> 01:39:24,180to coffee on the counter. Yes,boosts came from busy brain157101:39:24,210 --> 01:39:27,300centers. 10,000 SATs to foundingsays thank you guys for all you157201:39:27,300 --> 01:39:29,820do to build what I personallythink is a world changing157301:39:29,820 --> 01:39:33,240protocol for the betterment ofsociety. I feel honored to have157401:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,910the opportunity to listen infrom afar. This will be the157501:39:35,910 --> 01:39:39,210first of many boosts you'lllikely see from me in the future157601:39:39,210 --> 01:39:42,780much love from reading Bitcoinpodcast. Oh, there's a Bitcoin157701:39:42,780 --> 01:39:43,140guy.157801:39:43,170 --> 01:39:45,300There you go. Thank you Bitcoinguy.157901:39:46,380 --> 01:39:48,540Busy brain. You just say youjust did.158001:39:50,490 --> 01:39:54,990And Dred Scott just dropped a22,222 boost, bro a duck's158101:39:54,990 --> 01:40:01,440boosting for the pew pew. Ohhey, Got a drum? We take158201:40:01,440 --> 01:40:02,130requests?158301:40:02,880 --> 01:40:08,460I love the pregnant PP Paul'sYes, good. Stephen B. Row sticks158401:40:08,490 --> 01:40:11,610are a satchel of Richards isthrough the podcast index158501:40:11,640 --> 01:40:16,350webpage. He says Kiwi browsermobile test boost. Look at Kiwi158601:40:16,350 --> 01:40:16,830browser.158701:40:16,920 --> 01:40:21,240Oh, I think that's somethingthat Oh, kiwi browser runs on158801:40:21,240 --> 01:40:27,210Android and I believe you canload extensions. So yeah, and158901:40:27,210 --> 01:40:29,610thank you. There's another appdeveloper who is supporting us159001:40:29,610 --> 01:40:32,910with value. Thank you very much,Steven B. Curio caster. Ha.159101:40:33,690 --> 01:40:36,630Okay. Okay, I'll have to lookinto Kiwi browser. That's cool.159201:40:36,660 --> 01:40:37,320That's cool.159301:40:37,800 --> 01:40:42,840Roland sent us 1000 SATs throughpod versus testing split159401:40:42,840 --> 01:40:48,810payments with lb test successfulRoland. Very good. The tone159501:40:48,810 --> 01:40:51,450wrecker sent us 40,000 SATsthrough fountain Nene says159601:40:51,450 --> 01:40:57,990renewing annual scissorinsurance. Please proceed. Just159701:40:58,020 --> 01:41:00,060please proceed to commencerunning again.159801:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,360Careful now. Careful, carefulcareful,159901:41:03,720 --> 01:41:10,050though. I just think I just gotI got an eyebrow. Okay. Oh, and160001:41:10,050 --> 01:41:13,860let's see we get trug truegrits. Oh, true grits always160101:41:13,860 --> 01:41:17,190struggle with this name. 6000sets their fountain he says, I160201:41:17,190 --> 01:41:18,960would like to see crosstabcomments, especially for160301:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,870podcasts that don't use boostergrams. I would like that to160401:41:21,900 --> 01:41:23,340trigger it. Oh, and160501:41:23,940 --> 01:41:27,930before I forget, Oscar wasworking on some. We made a160601:41:27,930 --> 01:41:32,070suggestion on the website andsome thread we were on about the160701:41:32,460 --> 01:41:36,810booster Graham's for podcasting2.0 which are private, and so160801:41:36,810 --> 01:41:41,790don't don't show up on fountainand he's working on a way for us160901:41:41,790 --> 01:41:45,090to toggle it so that after we'vedone the live show, then they161001:41:45,090 --> 01:41:50,280can be displayed, which I thinkis a great way to do it. So that161101:41:50,310 --> 01:41:53,160that makes me really happy. Sowe still have the surprise161201:41:53,160 --> 01:41:57,180element. And and of course it'dbe even better if we could if we161301:41:57,180 --> 01:42:00,240wanted to not have one show upand it doesn't matter if we can161401:42:00,630 --> 01:42:03,930turn them live after we've donethe live show and gone through161501:42:03,930 --> 01:42:06,210the donation segment. I love it.Beautiful idea.161601:42:06,930 --> 01:42:11,700Cool. chat with him him aboutthat next week. Commentary161701:42:11,700 --> 01:42:15,780blogger the delimiter 33,015says through fountain and he161801:42:15,780 --> 01:42:21,060says dandy Dave and astute Adam.Get the scoop on what161901:42:21,060 --> 01:42:23,970technocratic elites arepreparing for humanity by162001:42:23,970 --> 01:42:28,530portioning out an episode of theAI dot cooking podcast. There in162101:42:28,530 --> 01:42:31,830you will find multiple newsitems detailing growth in the162201:42:31,830 --> 01:42:35,400field of Artificial Intelligencealong with historical context162301:42:35,490 --> 01:42:39,570and knowledge all explained byformer crypto day trader and162401:42:39,570 --> 01:42:43,800marijuana advocate glyph staydangerous yo162501:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,480yo I just asked chat GPT whichis AI what is the AI duck162601:42:48,480 --> 01:42:52,740cooking podcast and who hostsit? I'm sorry I'm not aware of162701:42:52,740 --> 01:42:54,360an AI duck cooking podcast.162801:42:55,050 --> 01:42:56,400No that's correct.162901:42:56,460 --> 01:42:59,400It is likely a podcast with thatname that does not exist or a163001:42:59,400 --> 01:43:04,200new podcast my knowledge cut offis 2021 hour okay. Yeah, I think163101:43:04,230 --> 01:43:10,230it did it started out is I don'tknow. Oh and listen to this now.163201:43:11,340 --> 01:43:14,700Many podcasts are available forfree through various platforms163301:43:14,700 --> 01:43:19,890such as Spotify, Apple podcastsand SoundCloud. I say yay, you163401:43:19,890 --> 01:43:25,170piece of shit. I'm sorry, yourmy previous answer does not meet163501:43:25,170 --> 01:43:28,830your expectations as a language.Blah, blah. I'm very sorry.163601:43:30,180 --> 01:43:35,820No, cooking started in April,April 30 of 2021. So this163701:43:35,820 --> 01:43:42,810thing's a piece of crap. Yeah,you can't hide behind your date163801:43:42,810 --> 01:43:47,610cut off. All right, we got somemonthlies pod verse $50. Thank163901:43:47,610 --> 01:43:55,080you pod verse. Basil Philip $25David Norman $25 A David. Lauren164001:43:55,080 --> 01:44:00,960ball $24.20 Mitch Downey of podverse also $10 Christopher164101:44:00,960 --> 01:44:06,330hyperbaric $10 Soren huggerMahler. $5 Terry killer $5164201:44:06,510 --> 01:44:12,690Jeremy Kevin off $10 Chris Cowan$5 Jeffrey Rutherford $5 Paul164301:44:12,690 --> 01:44:13,350Saltzman164401:44:13,709 --> 01:44:18,0892020 wants you always has thesame I always have the same love164501:44:18,089 --> 01:44:18,719him for that.164601:44:20,250 --> 01:44:25,590Damon Kassar, Jack $15 and DerekJ Vickery. $21. Great.164701:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,060I just, I just entered AI periodcooking, which would be the164801:44:30,060 --> 01:44:35,400correct to AI dot cooking. Andhere's what Chad GPT said I164901:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,070apologize for my previousconfusion. Ai dot cooking is a165001:44:38,070 --> 01:44:41,580podcast that focuses on theintersection of AI and culinary165101:44:41,580 --> 01:44:47,190arts. The podcast is hosted bysarin Soylu, who is a researcher165201:44:47,190 --> 01:44:49,350and developer with a backgroundin artificial intelligence,165301:44:49,350 --> 01:44:51,720robotics and machine learning.The episodes focused on a wide165401:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,810range of topics such as the useof AI and recipe generation,165501:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,230kitchen automation and thefuture of food. The podcast is165601:44:58,230 --> 01:45:01,260available on various platformsincluding Apple podcasts Spotify165701:45:01,260 --> 01:45:02,190and SoundCloud165801:45:03,419 --> 01:45:05,879This is bullcrap. That's noteven true. This podcast doesn't165901:45:05,879 --> 01:45:06,719exist.166001:45:07,259 --> 01:45:11,159I don't see AI cooking. I mean,that's supposed to take us to166101:45:11,159 --> 01:45:12,119goofs thing, right?166201:45:13,200 --> 01:45:18,210Yeah, yeah. The only a look upon podcast index AI. If I look166301:45:18,210 --> 01:45:24,300up AI cooking Yeah, I get a Iget CSBs podcast and I get some166401:45:24,300 --> 01:45:25,830French thing that doesn't makeany sense.166501:45:26,100 --> 01:45:33,150That is incorrect. Yeah, it'scares. Is the podcast. Do the166601:45:33,150 --> 01:45:36,150URL. Give it to it there. Okay.166701:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,140Ah yes, this is166801:45:40,380 --> 01:45:43,740this is this is going to fail sobad. This is gonna I'm closing166901:45:43,740 --> 01:45:47,340this out. This is annoying me.Make sure I never do that again.167001:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,940Okay, please never do that.You'll never make it. Stick in167101:45:50,940 --> 01:45:51,450your pile.167201:45:51,480 --> 01:45:55,710Oh, please. I'm so sad. I evenstarted this today. I apologize167301:45:55,710 --> 01:45:58,770to everybody. I mean, I'mobsessed with how shitty it is.167401:45:58,800 --> 01:45:59,700I think that's it.167501:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,470Yeah, it's like watching a trainwreck.167601:46:01,499 --> 01:46:04,139I want to do I want to discreditYes. I want to discredit it all167701:46:04,139 --> 01:46:05,459the time. As much as I can.167801:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,800You did scrolling This is theaudio equivalent of167901:46:10,740 --> 01:46:14,430okay. Are you got you got a fullweekend of family time? You168001:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,720didn't do anything fun?168101:46:16,290 --> 01:46:22,170Yeah, this. This is the last dayof of day job hell week where we168201:46:22,410 --> 01:46:27,810do big software rollout us phonesystem upgrade, a sand a NET app168301:46:27,810 --> 01:46:31,380sand storage firmware upgradeand onboard about 10 employees168401:46:31,380 --> 01:46:31,980on same way.168501:46:32,010 --> 01:46:36,660Wow. Did you also do the no tamupgrade? Wednesday? No, Tam,168601:46:36,660 --> 01:46:37,890yeah. The notice to Airmen.168701:46:40,740 --> 01:46:45,510What was that? It's not to giveme the full and a skinny but168801:46:45,510 --> 01:46:48,930give me the like, give me thisthumbnail sketch what happened?168901:46:49,860 --> 01:46:54,720You know what? The opening of ofyesterday's no agenda is is half169001:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,240an hour. And it's all aboutthat, because you can't really169101:46:57,270 --> 01:47:00,360do a thumbnail sketch. I'll justlisten to there's too much. And169201:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,630I'm getting information nowfrom, you know, from people169301:47:03,630 --> 01:47:07,710really in the know. But let'sput it this way. I've been a169401:47:07,710 --> 01:47:10,290pilot for 16 years, this hasnever happened before.169501:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,770So it was definitely a softwareproblem. Is that fair to say?169601:47:14,850 --> 01:47:18,300In in, in so far that thesoftware did not publish the169701:47:18,300 --> 01:47:23,010information? It was supposed to?Who? That that's not good. That169801:47:23,010 --> 01:47:25,680doesn't mean that it was aproblem. That could have just169901:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,860been a stop. Whole bunch ofreasons I could have happened.170001:47:30,090 --> 01:47:30,360Well,170101:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,120Alex, because he thinks hisgovernment problems.170201:47:36,150 --> 01:47:39,990There was a lot of fighter jetsand air tankers, though at the170301:47:39,990 --> 01:47:42,540same time. So I don't know.Could just be coincidence, it170401:47:42,540 --> 01:47:43,740could just be coincidence.170501:47:44,760 --> 01:47:49,170Oh, I like him. But I like howyou said, Oh, this thing went170601:47:49,170 --> 01:47:51,450horribly wrong. It must havebeen David did that upgrade?170701:47:52,170 --> 01:47:52,920Thanks a lot for that.170801:47:52,950 --> 01:47:54,480I didn't mean it like that.170901:47:55,590 --> 01:47:57,360No, I forgive. In fact,171001:47:57,390 --> 01:48:01,260in fact, your stuff is rocksolid. The Freedom controller171101:48:01,260 --> 01:48:03,180has been running for how manyyears now? Dave,171201:48:03,659 --> 01:48:06,569I'm afraid I typed the worduptime because I don't even want171301:48:06,569 --> 01:48:07,559to know it's scary.171401:48:07,590 --> 01:48:11,010It's so awesome. How long thisthing has been. It's been171501:48:11,010 --> 01:48:15,240running. And I think the lasttime I had an issue was years171601:48:15,240 --> 01:48:17,130ago. years ago.171701:48:17,550 --> 01:48:22,230I'm gonna check the uptime onyour server today. I bet you is171801:48:22,230 --> 01:48:23,520like five years.171901:48:25,980 --> 01:48:28,350Let me see. Freedom. I thought Ihad a172001:48:29,670 --> 01:48:34,200SSH into there. I do. I'm afraidto even SSH into it.172101:48:35,820 --> 01:48:41,550I have a I have actually I havea think I have an alias too. So172201:48:41,550 --> 01:48:46,680I don't have to remember allthis stuff. It wasn't freedom172301:48:46,680 --> 01:48:50,640controller. me it was cart. Oh,I know what it was SSH cart.172401:48:50,970 --> 01:48:55,380There we go. Watch this. Oh, I'mso awesome. Okay, what's uptime?172501:48:56,310 --> 01:49:01,500I mean uptime. Dude, 479 days.172601:49:02,580 --> 01:49:07,500That's not as long as I thoughtit would be. Maybe it's free,172701:49:07,500 --> 01:49:11,700but it may have been rebooteditself. Because I have not I172801:49:11,700 --> 01:49:14,790have not manually rebooted thatserver in about five years. So172901:49:14,790 --> 01:49:18,120it's a must have happened. Maybeyou maybe you got switched to a173001:49:18,120 --> 01:49:22,050different anything could havehappened at OBEDIA vs. EC two173101:49:22,050 --> 01:49:24,420and maybe they moved you to anew host or something? Because173201:49:24,630 --> 01:49:25,680anything it wouldn't be.173301:49:26,369 --> 01:49:32,849Let me see the last time we wentin. No, I mean, I think this has173401:49:32,849 --> 01:49:35,549been up for years. You're right.That can't be right.173501:49:36,390 --> 01:49:39,810Yeah, I've not made seriouslyI'm not manually rebooted that173601:49:39,810 --> 01:49:41,400thing since like, you know,173701:49:41,909 --> 01:49:44,549why? Why would you? Yeah, it173801:49:44,550 --> 01:49:46,140doesn't do any it doesn't needit. It just keeps173901:49:46,140 --> 01:49:49,770on Dave shit works people.That's the bottom line. That's174001:49:49,770 --> 01:49:55,530right. SAA here You did anupgrade. Okay, I don't know when174101:49:56,490 --> 01:50:02,100some upgrade Oh, Ah, okay.Meanwhile, thank you all very174201:50:02,100 --> 01:50:04,800much for boosting the diprecently because that was great174301:50:04,800 --> 01:50:05,400for us.174401:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,600Oh, well you bleeps and bloopsgoing on Yeah, that's174501:50:09,600 --> 01:50:16,140a Windows Bitcoin now. 19,342That's like 16,000 a day ago or174601:50:16,140 --> 01:50:17,250something. It's crazy.174701:50:17,880 --> 01:50:19,920Yeah, what was your theory onthat there's something they've174801:50:19,920 --> 01:50:21,510found FTX money or something?174901:50:22,200 --> 01:50:29,610JUST A THEORY $5 billion in FTXassets apparently were found big175001:50:29,610 --> 01:50:35,850story on CNBC. So this is in thefinancial National Enquirer and175101:50:35,850 --> 01:50:40,620it was a combination of cash andliquid assets and then they said175201:50:40,620 --> 01:50:43,290but we're worried about and theyliterally said we're we're in175301:50:43,290 --> 01:50:47,280this article I think I sent itto you we're worried about the175401:50:47,340 --> 01:50:50,610the assets because the minute westart selling them flooding the175501:50:50,610 --> 01:50:54,930market it's going to kill thatasset. So my thinking yeah, my175601:50:54,930 --> 01:50:58,260thinking is that some kind oftoken shit coin or maybe a175701:50:58,260 --> 01:51:01,980stable coin, which would be areal if it's a stable coin, it's175801:51:01,980 --> 01:51:06,090a real problem. Because thatwill affect the bond market175901:51:06,090 --> 01:51:08,940Believe it or not, so my theoryis that people had borrowed176001:51:08,940 --> 01:51:14,100Bitcoin to buy this shit coin orstable coin whatever it is, and176101:51:14,100 --> 01:51:19,230when they heard that too, likeoh crap, we better cover our176201:51:19,230 --> 01:51:22,380Bitcoin borrow because you knowwhen you borrow it, you have to176301:51:22,380 --> 01:51:26,130pay it back and the idea is wellbitcoins going down this token176401:51:26,130 --> 01:51:29,280is going up so I'll borrow theBitcoin and then a certain point176501:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,920I'll have you know, I'll haveBitcoin will be going down176601:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,800enough where I buy the actualBitcoin and give back the bar176701:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,950Bitcoin that's a short and thetoken will have gone up so now176801:51:37,950 --> 01:51:40,560the inverse is possiblyhappening so people are freaking176901:51:40,560 --> 01:51:45,360out going, Oh, I better rightaway buy some bitcoin to cover177001:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,400the Bitcoin that I borrowed177101:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,450the day what started out as ahedge turned into a short177201:51:51,450 --> 01:51:51,990squeeze.177301:51:52,380 --> 01:51:55,560Yeah, and actually the shortsqueeze that will really happen177401:51:55,800 --> 01:52:00,990if they think if this goes to20,500 Then you'll see something177501:52:00,990 --> 01:52:03,900massive happen and it'sinteresting because I think the177601:52:03,900 --> 01:52:07,950market itself today waspredominantly down maybe went up177701:52:08,010 --> 01:52:09,180while we're doing the show.177801:52:09,810 --> 01:52:13,200So yeah, that tells you thissome technical going on and it's177901:52:13,200 --> 01:52:17,460not a Yeah, it's not just up youknow, up with everything else up178001:52:17,460 --> 01:52:18,330type of deal. No,178101:52:18,330 --> 01:52:22,200because I know the Dow Jones wasdown two or 300 it closed at 93178201:52:22,200 --> 01:52:25,710Up 93 Nasdaq closed up a littlebit yeah,178301:52:25,770 --> 01:52:28,470I like that theory. That soundsthat sounds right. It definitely178401:52:28,470 --> 01:52:29,850feels like a technical thing.178501:52:29,940 --> 01:52:33,270Yeah, this is not just everyonegoing wow, Bitcoin. Oh, I've178601:52:33,270 --> 01:52:36,030seen the light. No, I don'tthink I don't think that178701:52:36,030 --> 01:52:40,470happens. Oh, my God. This isgonna save the world. No,178801:52:40,470 --> 01:52:41,640probably not probably.178901:52:43,200 --> 01:52:48,240All right, bro. Brazil didn'tBrazil passed some bridges179001:52:48,240 --> 01:52:48,780nation for179101:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,120Brazil have a government at thispoint?179201:52:51,390 --> 01:52:54,630Yeah, I have no tail. There's notail. Yeah, I don't179301:52:54,630 --> 01:52:57,660know. I've noticed that. I don'tI don't think that moves the179401:52:57,660 --> 01:52:59,910needle at all. I think this isokay. Yeah, you're right.179501:52:59,910 --> 01:53:04,380Something technical. Something'sgoing on. And well, never a179601:53:04,380 --> 01:53:07,320boring moment in the Bitcoingame. Never a boring moment.179701:53:07,950 --> 01:53:12,570Thank you all so much for forboosting for keeping us moving179801:53:12,570 --> 01:53:15,060ahead for greasing the wheelsfor your value for value.179901:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,360appreciate it so much. Thank youall for being with us here on180001:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,420the live show. And if you'relistening, post taste on the180101:53:21,450 --> 01:53:24,690podcast. Hope you enjoyed thisboard meeting. We short love180201:53:24,690 --> 01:53:26,160doing it. My brother Dave, thankyou.180301:53:27,090 --> 01:53:30,150Thank you, man. 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