Episode 112: Respect The Splits

100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,630Oh, podcasting 2.0 for December9 2022 Episode 112 Respect the200:00:06,630 --> 00:00:14,220splits. Board members Hello,assessors. Hello, witnesses up300:00:14,220 --> 00:00:17,490there in the stand. Welcome topodcasting. 2.0 The official400:00:17,490 --> 00:00:21,030board meeting of podcasting 2.0Find out what's going on with500:00:21,030 --> 00:00:24,870the podcast namespace.Everything at podcast index.org.600:00:24,870 --> 00:00:27,390And of course, all theshenanigans of podcasts index700:00:27,390 --> 00:00:31,140dot social. It's on thefediverse I'm Adam curry here in800:00:31,140 --> 00:00:34,860the heart of Texas Hill Countryand an Alabama. Here's the pings900:00:34,860 --> 00:00:41,580to every woman's You can't lieto me like that. He's the pod to1000:00:41,580 --> 00:00:44,460every woman's paying say helloto my friends come together. And1100:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,310ladies and gentlemen, Mr. DaveJones.1200:00:47,970 --> 00:00:50,820Still can't help it. Whathappened?1300:00:51,270 --> 00:00:56,400I stepped out for one moment andmayhem mayhem mayhem, I tell1400:00:56,400 --> 00:00:56,580you,1500:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,890the chat room go that goaded methat goaded me into. That was1600:01:02,190 --> 00:01:06,060no. So that you have tounderstand that arrangement of1700:01:06,060 --> 00:01:10,710my house. Where our podcast fromthe room that I podcast in is,1800:01:11,100 --> 00:01:16,380is directly across the hall,this little short hallway from1900:01:16,470 --> 00:01:19,530the bathroom where I go to thelittle podcasters room for the2000:01:19,530 --> 00:01:25,500show. Okay, so I am like, okay,Adams going I'm done with my2100:01:25,500 --> 00:01:29,130tweeting and tooten I'm gonna goover here to the to the to the2200:01:29,130 --> 00:01:32,130bathroom. Oh, in NP before theshow.2300:01:32,220 --> 00:01:34,260And you had the door open andthe mic on?2400:01:34,650 --> 00:01:39,690Oh, yeah. I mean I didn't knowboth doors were closed but we2500:01:39,690 --> 00:01:43,800have very thin walls in the noselike I get back I get back and2600:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,480blueberries like lol in any saysthe stream is strong with this.2700:01:51,300 --> 00:01:55,320So I'm just like, given everytweet out here less shows love2800:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,620and then everybody tunes I didnt stream I think we2900:01:58,620 --> 00:02:01,590have just received some audio.3000:02:05,220 --> 00:02:07,890This is a live stream in everysense of the word.3100:02:08,730 --> 00:02:11,940So Oh, goodness. Okay. Early.Yeah,3200:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,290you get the full string. Well,3300:02:13,290 --> 00:02:16,560for those who are using one ofthose handy dandy podcasting 2.03400:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,260apps with notifications, whichis one pod verse, pod verse will3500:02:22,260 --> 00:02:25,500notify you that we're live andyou can we do some reliably3600:02:25,500 --> 00:02:28,650informed Good. Well, of course,PR curio caster has all the3700:02:28,650 --> 00:02:33,270features, but doesn't have thealert system at being web based.3800:02:33,900 --> 00:02:35,610And there's another one comingup.3900:02:37,050 --> 00:02:39,330Yeah, fountain city is going todo it.4000:02:39,870 --> 00:02:42,720Oh, I did not yet. I'm sure hewants to do it to know how far4100:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,330they were those everyone'sworking on stuff, man. There's a4200:02:45,330 --> 00:02:47,370lot of work to do an app.4300:02:48,180 --> 00:02:53,160You get. You gotta you gotta goheads down and and get some in4400:02:53,190 --> 00:02:56,010start right and write some code.It's not easy. Not easy at4500:02:56,010 --> 00:02:59,460all. And let me tell you, so letme tell you something. So Tina4600:02:59,460 --> 00:03:04,410and Tina switch to fountain.Some time ago. She was number4700:03:04,410 --> 00:03:07,170she was a big pod friend user.She liked pod friend a lot that4800:03:07,170 --> 00:03:12,240she liked the whole experience.So she moved to another she's my4900:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,240canary in the coalmine. Mine islooking at what what she's5000:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,910doing. And I think the mostrecent release came out and I5100:03:20,910 --> 00:03:23,220said, Oh, hey, you know, there'sa update, just make sure that5200:03:23,250 --> 00:03:26,370fountain is updated so that youget that and she says, yeah,5300:03:26,370 --> 00:03:32,280they sure needed. That was abouttime. I'm like what? Oh, hater.5400:03:32,310 --> 00:03:38,700What you know, here's what I'venoticed. Typically, I think it's5500:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,760by default that, you know, thatfountain will stream the5600:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,340podcast. I don't think itdownloads at first, I'm not5700:03:44,340 --> 00:03:49,050quite sure what the cache is onthat. But for sure, there are5800:03:49,050 --> 00:03:52,440spots in the house where andactually when she's driving,5900:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,840she's driving fromFredericksburg to Austin,6000:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,720there's going to be a spotsomewhere where you just kind of6100:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,270lose your your cell phoneconnection. It's you know, it's6200:04:00,270 --> 00:04:03,120this hill country, Texas. Sothere's a couple of spots where6300:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,010it may drop out. Immediatelyfountain sucks. So6400:04:08,040 --> 00:04:15,720what So is the I heard Marco ina recent podcast saying that if6500:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,290he could do anything over again,when it comes to writing6600:04:19,290 --> 00:04:23,910overcast, he would eliminatestreaming and just do download6700:04:23,910 --> 00:04:27,390only? And 100% agree with that.6800:04:27,420 --> 00:04:32,520I'm 100%6900:04:33,570 --> 00:04:38,970I totally agree with that. Imean, because he like the the7000:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,040building I work in. Every time Igo into the elevators, the7100:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,850elevator or a stair with thestairway shaft that cinderblock.7200:04:48,180 --> 00:04:51,990I lose, I lose connection. Solike I hate it. I mean, it's7300:04:51,990 --> 00:04:57,750like it drives me nuts. Thewhole promise of podcasting was7400:04:57,750 --> 00:05:00,870that you get the full deliveryahead of time, so that you don't7500:05:00,870 --> 00:05:01,650have to worry about well7600:05:01,650 --> 00:05:04,500let now let's be honest aboutit, because the only thing that7700:05:04,500 --> 00:05:09,660really changes that is thenotification system. So if Marco7800:05:09,660 --> 00:05:13,440decides tomorrow, like, Okay,why don't I just not notify7900:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,190anybody until it's automaticallydownloaded onto your device?8000:05:17,580 --> 00:05:20,670Problem solved. I mean that thatis the true way to solve it. And8100:05:20,670 --> 00:05:23,370I think that should be anendless that's the, as you write8200:05:23,370 --> 00:05:27,540the original blog post was theoriginal. The original concept8300:05:27,540 --> 00:05:31,800is have it ready for me? WhenI'm ready. And let it come to8400:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,770me. There should just be it'svery simple, just an old school8500:05:34,770 --> 00:05:37,710toggle mode. It's like, Hey, youwant to you want to this old8600:05:37,710 --> 00:05:41,910school and the way it wasintended. And they will just8700:05:41,910 --> 00:05:44,250notify the people after it'sdownloaded. And it's an auto8800:05:44,250 --> 00:05:47,010download situation. That's all Idon't think it's a hard thing to8900:05:47,010 --> 00:05:47,580implement.9000:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,160I don't know why. People, somepeople seem to be just a real,9100:05:53,190 --> 00:05:56,010real download haters, they justreally want they think the whole9200:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,150thing should be streamed. This9300:05:57,150 --> 00:06:00,450is OCD people. And I will saythat Tina is probably one of9400:06:00,450 --> 00:06:03,480those if she knew about it, ifyou said hey, by the way, all9500:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,640these episodes that areunlisted, too. They're actually9600:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,420sitting there on your drive inyour memory not being used.9700:06:09,450 --> 00:06:13,500She's Dave, Dave, my wifedeletes text messages.9800:06:13,980 --> 00:06:15,990Probably I don't know, she's oneof those.9900:06:16,290 --> 00:06:19,920Hey, hey, don't be a hater.There's a lot of she's like10000:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,080those. It's I think it's a womanthing, too.10100:06:22,680 --> 00:06:32,460It's cross gender. Gender. Likeyou go, there's so many things,10200:06:32,490 --> 00:06:35,370these are the same. I'm going topredict I don't know this for10300:06:35,370 --> 00:06:39,600sure, I'm going to predict thatTina also flicks her apps to10400:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,360kill them out of memory. Oh,100 100%.10500:06:46,770 --> 00:06:50,130But it's not five min. But it'snot to get it's not to get them10600:06:50,130 --> 00:06:55,590out of memory. It's just toclean things up. For real, she10700:06:55,590 --> 00:07:00,900also will delete photos off herphone. And yeah, I rarely don't10800:07:00,900 --> 00:07:03,510need this don't need this one.This is why and what she keeps10900:07:03,510 --> 00:07:08,790is very necessary. But you know,know, your customer, people know11000:07:08,790 --> 00:07:14,490your customer here. Yeah, Ithink there's a lot of a lot of11100:07:14,490 --> 00:07:18,750assumptions being made, whichmakes an ass out of you and me a11200:07:18,750 --> 00:07:22,710lot of assumptions about howpeople use this stuff. And as we11300:07:22,710 --> 00:07:27,240know from the data that femalelisteners women, I think is what11400:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,590the term is used. A lot of themlisten on just a website with a11500:07:31,590 --> 00:07:34,020web player. So know yourcustomers here.11600:07:34,410 --> 00:07:36,210Female listeners also known aswell.11700:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,470You gotta you gotta hatewhatever the data was. You want11800:07:40,470 --> 00:07:42,780to have it correct. I don'tthink it was the same women and11900:07:42,780 --> 00:07:46,770female listeners apparently notthe same in the data anymore. So12000:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,460just saying.12100:07:49,380 --> 00:07:54,120So let me know. Like, I haven't.We haven't even done an episode12200:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,910in like three weeks. So what howgreat. I need a girl report.12300:07:56,910 --> 00:07:57,510How's the grill12400:07:57,540 --> 00:08:05,280the grill? The grill is doingfine. So it was kind of severe,12500:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,820the whole thing was a five and ahalf hour operation, or12600:08:08,820 --> 00:08:12,450procedure, I should say. wasinteresting that they use12700:08:12,450 --> 00:08:14,820fentanyl on me which didn't workall that well, because I kept12800:08:14,820 --> 00:08:18,090waking up. And they kept sayingand we have enough immunity to12900:08:18,090 --> 00:08:20,340kill an elephant to kiss ChatOpsgo to sleep.13000:08:21,030 --> 00:08:24,600They didn't use the Mexicanfentanyl. They use the mill.13100:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,890He's the bargain basement. So13200:08:26,460 --> 00:08:29,340are you Irish? I said no, I'mnot Irish, red, red hair, red13300:08:29,340 --> 00:08:32,340hair and the family. No, no,yeah. Because you know, gingers13400:08:32,340 --> 00:08:36,570have no souls and no. Others andtypically, you know, that's a13500:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,500that's a genetics that peopleneed two to three times the13600:08:40,500 --> 00:08:45,180amount of sedation. And then wejust all chalked it up to my13700:08:45,180 --> 00:08:47,610education in Amsterdam, youknow, I might have some high13800:08:47,610 --> 00:08:53,310tolerance for some reason.You're hitching. Brene Brown13900:08:53,310 --> 00:08:57,030bringing the lowlands ingeneral, it feels like I was hit14000:08:57,030 --> 00:09:02,670by a bus and real slow motion.So you know, the impact is14100:09:02,670 --> 00:09:04,590there. I don't really knowwhat's happening. Then three14200:09:04,590 --> 00:09:07,830days later, your whole faceswells up. Now it's gone down, I14300:09:07,830 --> 00:09:11,340can actually start to eat somesolid food and very small bites.14400:09:11,730 --> 00:09:15,180And now I'm feeling the sorenessof where they put these14500:09:15,180 --> 00:09:18,450temporary three millimeterscrews to help my bone grow14600:09:18,450 --> 00:09:21,420before they go with a full.That's titanium. It's very cool14700:09:21,420 --> 00:09:23,100technology. Right? Yeah,14800:09:23,100 --> 00:09:26,610that's the same thing that samething grants gotten his leg got14900:09:26,610 --> 00:09:26,910to touch.15000:09:27,660 --> 00:09:30,330Exactly. And they enter theytake some of your Bloods and pig15100:09:30,330 --> 00:09:33,630blood and some other crushed upbones or something from some15200:09:33,630 --> 00:09:37,380witch doctor in New Orleans as awitch's brew. And then they15300:09:37,380 --> 00:09:41,310paste that all over and actuallythat's a plate on my on my bone.15400:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,760And then this will grow. That'swhere the two screws are. Then15500:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,180the bone will grow around thatplate. And then in a couple of15600:09:48,180 --> 00:09:51,660months, they can drill sometitanium posts in there and put15700:09:51,660 --> 00:09:54,330my real teeth in. In themeantime, be I spent a lot of15800:09:54,330 --> 00:09:58,470time effort and funds to createa temporary set. That sounds15900:09:58,470 --> 00:09:58,980good.16000:09:59,610 --> 00:10:02,190Oh yeah. You sound zerodifferent. You sound no16100:10:02,190 --> 00:10:04,410different at all. Just like youalways did16200:10:04,410 --> 00:10:09,000yesterday, the tarp flipped outat the end of no agenda. I mean,16300:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,030literally, it landed on the onthe podcast decimal point.16400:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,980And no, no, yes.16500:10:15,750 --> 00:10:18,150I finished it without the tarpand there was a little16600:10:18,150 --> 00:10:18,660difference.16700:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,510It's like those little chatterteeth, toys for teeth.16800:10:25,110 --> 00:10:29,340But what they are, is they youknow, the use of vampire teeth16900:10:29,340 --> 00:10:32,760you buy for Halloween, you slipthem over your own, it's exactly17000:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,730like that. Except they're onlyslipped over the two canines,17100:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,340upper and lower because there'snothing more in the middle. I17200:10:38,340 --> 00:10:38,790know less17300:10:38,790 --> 00:10:42,450Billy Bob. You know, the frontteeth. Exactly.17400:10:42,510 --> 00:10:45,870Ladies, I know. It's a visualthat just gets you all hot and17500:10:45,870 --> 00:10:50,670bothered. I know. But, you know,they're basically 3d printed.17600:10:51,570 --> 00:10:56,550And so I got it. Ah, becauseit's one piece. I'll have to17700:10:56,550 --> 00:11:00,450ask. I'll have to ask my guy. Ishould know but it you know,17800:11:00,450 --> 00:11:03,540it's all compute. It doesn'tright there in the office. And17900:11:03,540 --> 00:11:06,510so I'm thinking now now thatthis fits, because you know, get18000:11:06,510 --> 00:11:09,150it it's very precise. I made itfit right away. And of course,18100:11:09,150 --> 00:11:11,940you do have to put a little bitof Geriatric paste on it to keep18200:11:11,940 --> 00:11:15,570it in, which lasts 24 hours,hence the don't go long on the18300:11:15,570 --> 00:11:19,770podcast, they might pop out. Infact, I got about two and a half18400:11:19,770 --> 00:11:21,000hours before I'm do18500:11:21,780 --> 00:11:24,450what you asked me how long wewanted to give. Yes, exactly.18600:11:25,950 --> 00:11:28,890I want to know, do I have toreapply before the show?18700:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,640We're at the 15 minute mark, Igotta get my colleague or18800:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,060whatever.18900:11:33,330 --> 00:11:37,380It's exactly what it is. It's,it's so it's so harsh. It is19000:11:37,380 --> 00:11:40,740Polly dent. Literally. I'mthinking maybe I can get an19100:11:40,740 --> 00:11:43,980endorsement deal from him.Anyway, I totally can. Yeah, so19200:11:44,070 --> 00:11:48,180I want to see can I can I get aQR code version with a QR code?19300:11:48,210 --> 00:11:50,940You know, 3d printed? Can I getone with literally would like19400:11:50,940 --> 00:11:54,810some some gold grill? I mean,there's you interchange them,19500:11:54,810 --> 00:11:56,640you know, it's gonna be a coupleof months. And they were How19600:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,650about just real fangs, like,real19700:11:59,430 --> 00:12:03,810code. Imagine this QR code isthe missing, you know, like, the19800:12:03,810 --> 00:12:07,320black and the white blobs of theQR code are just missing teeth.19900:12:07,650 --> 00:12:08,040Like, you20000:12:09,510 --> 00:12:13,560know, I was thinking becausewhen you know, these, these20100:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,860teeth look amazing. People hadno idea these were temporaries20200:12:16,890 --> 00:12:18,840like, they're like really, ifyou look really close, you see20300:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,060that they're not actuallyseparated. But if you20400:12:21,060 --> 00:12:24,120sent me a picture and theylooked really real true. Yeah.20500:12:24,300 --> 00:12:27,090Because a lot of times what yousee with do with the like20600:12:27,090 --> 00:12:31,050partials and temporaries andstuff are is that they make they20700:12:31,050 --> 00:12:35,100sit unnaturally some people'slips like kind of pushed by poof20800:12:35,100 --> 00:12:38,130out. But it didn't look likelike these look totally normal.20900:12:38,160 --> 00:12:38,430Yeah.21000:12:39,150 --> 00:12:42,540If I should they're well alignedso I can put them together and21100:12:42,540 --> 00:12:45,870that could and then all thewhole teeth could have a full QR21200:12:45,870 --> 00:12:47,310code in four quadrants.21300:12:49,410 --> 00:12:50,790With with error correction.21400:12:53,790 --> 00:12:57,690Speaking of as we move into somemore important stuff other than21500:12:57,690 --> 00:13:03,360my face, I had the presentationmeeting with Ibex today I BX21600:13:03,360 --> 00:13:09,360these are the these are the kidswho are doing the Satoshi21700:13:09,390 --> 00:13:14,190receiving Satoshi lightning andsending it to the company in21800:13:14,190 --> 00:13:16,530Fiat for no agenda.21900:13:16,950 --> 00:13:20,850So give me give me the guy isCan you reveal the report with22000:13:20,910 --> 00:13:22,140the minutes public for this?22100:13:22,170 --> 00:13:26,310I actually I tweet Yes, I can.Actually a tweet tweeted, I22200:13:26,310 --> 00:13:30,870tweeted a QR code and and itworks right now you can it's22300:13:30,870 --> 00:13:32,340basically an ln URL.22400:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360And where did you Where did youturn you turn it on?22500:13:36,780 --> 00:13:42,000I did a I did a Yeah, I did areboot on podcast index or boost22600:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,920I should say. So yeah, anyway,it works because people are22700:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,420sending it to me and you caneven have a link that creates a22800:13:51,420 --> 00:13:55,200link or QR code that has apredetermined amount so you know22900:13:55,230 --> 00:13:58,440exactly the kind of stuffhopefully I'm gonna give this to23000:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,680Devorah because that's the sameway he uses PayPal when he does23100:14:01,680 --> 00:14:05,730a link for the newsletter orsomething like that. And then23200:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,080people will be able to donatewith lightning and for tax23300:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,990purposes because we know there'sissues and reasons while we23400:14:12,990 --> 00:14:19,800don't want to have Bitcoinhitting a no agenda account it23500:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,390is settled in in Fiat in thecurrency of your choosing right23600:14:24,390 --> 00:14:29,520into the bank account throughwhat is it the overnight23700:14:30,180 --> 00:14:32,580automatic ACH what does23800:14:32,580 --> 00:14:37,470that yeah the yeah the wiretransfer. Yeah, exactly.23900:14:37,500 --> 00:14:39,600Yeah, that's what it's called.It's called something else.24000:14:40,229 --> 00:14:43,559What's so what is what is thisQR code? What am I what am I24100:14:43,559 --> 00:14:47,309seeing here this Ellen URL butfor how what you can use to hit24200:14:47,309 --> 00:14:48,929it with strike and it doesn't doanything?24300:14:49,650 --> 00:14:53,490No, it may not work with strikeor cash app. It's uh, you need24400:14:55,890 --> 00:15:04,740you need breeze or What else? Dowe have? Blue wallet or wild of24500:15:04,740 --> 00:15:06,630Satoshi? Okay, I'll24600:15:06,630 --> 00:15:08,460let them breathe. And I'll try.Yeah, breeze24700:15:08,460 --> 00:15:11,820will do it. So it's basicallyjust an open send send money.24800:15:12,570 --> 00:15:16,380Yeah. So it's an open donation.And what's cool about it is you24900:15:16,380 --> 00:15:19,500put in, I mean, it's, it'snothing, it's nothing special,25000:15:19,500 --> 00:15:23,190the special part is on the backend that you can determine it25100:15:23,220 --> 00:15:27,930100% Or a sliding scale of howmuch you want paid out and Fiat.25200:15:28,860 --> 00:15:31,680And that's, that's the thing.That's, that's good here,25300:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,500because this is what a lot ofpeople want. And it's much25400:15:34,530 --> 00:15:37,380easier for your accounting youhave, you have a little25500:15:37,860 --> 00:15:43,770spreadsheet export, which isperfect, just like heli pad. And25600:15:43,770 --> 00:15:46,110it's only 1% fee. I think thatthey're charging.25700:15:47,310 --> 00:15:49,830Yeah, that totally went throughwith breeze. 1000 1000 SATs.25800:15:49,830 --> 00:15:50,580Yeah, awesome.25900:15:50,760 --> 00:15:59,760Yeah. So so the next step is tomake it case and enabled. So26000:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,550that's what they're working onnow. So then then we can use it26100:16:02,550 --> 00:16:06,240as in the value block and talkabout it in the value block on26200:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,150our agenda. Hello, hello, thisis why I'm doing it for26300:16:09,540 --> 00:16:11,400this. So beautiful. I love it.26400:16:11,430 --> 00:16:17,070And the third, which will take alittle bit more thought and26500:16:17,070 --> 00:16:20,820discussion. And of course, theelusive Bolt 12 would help but26600:16:20,850 --> 00:16:27,450no will when hell freezes overis some kind of subscription26700:16:27,450 --> 00:16:31,080type mechanism. And with that, Imean recurring payment, not26800:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,850subscription. And I there's,this has become a thing that is,26900:16:36,090 --> 00:16:41,760is floating around about havingrecurring payments done by a27000:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,600service. Right, I'm hearingdifferent versions of it, and I27100:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,030think is becoming really, reallyconfusing.27200:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,660So that's, uh, you want to delveinto that.27300:16:53,250 --> 00:16:55,500But I'd love to hear your yourwhat you're thinking about it,27400:16:55,500 --> 00:16:57,390because you know what I'mtalking about. Right? It's like,27500:16:57,540 --> 00:17:01,650yeah, absolutely. Why do you Imean, I do this. So I mean, I'm27600:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,790I would be hypocritical if Isaid that, that, you know,27700:17:05,820 --> 00:17:12,150sending automated payments is,is BS. I mean, like I cron job27800:17:12,150 --> 00:17:18,720payments to, to shows that Ilistened to. And the odd reason27900:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,920about the reason I do it,28000:17:19,950 --> 00:17:23,130can I ask you a question beforeyou continue? Yes. Do you use28100:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,550all of the splits in the valueblock when you do that? I do28200:17:26,550 --> 00:17:30,540not. Okay, so this is myproblem. This is, that's where I28300:17:30,540 --> 00:17:31,320have a problem.28400:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,970Yeah, I do not, I do not do thatI quickly hacked it together.28500:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,130And it's been on my radar to goback and do it that way to like28600:17:41,130 --> 00:17:44,760to modify it to where I'm doingit the right way. But when there28700:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,290and the correct way, right wayis to do it with a you query the28800:17:49,290 --> 00:17:53,370value block as it currentlystands, and then, and then send28900:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,290just like a normal pay of valuefor value, lightning payment to29000:17:58,290 --> 00:18:02,790all to all splits all receivers,Bob. And so I hacked this29100:18:02,790 --> 00:18:07,410together because I went througha period. And this happens to me29200:18:07,410 --> 00:18:11,850so often, every so often, whereit gets so busy, that I can't, I29300:18:11,850 --> 00:18:17,730just don't have time to listento two shows. And so I went you29400:18:17,730 --> 00:18:21,000know, three weeks withoutlistening to the intergalactic29500:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,490boombox. And then I was like,you know, I've got to, I gotta29600:18:26,490 --> 00:18:30,420make, I want to make sure thatI'm at least supporting these29700:18:30,420 --> 00:18:33,750shows that I love, because Idon't want my lack of luck, what29800:18:33,750 --> 00:18:37,710I want is for when I return tothat show, for it to still be29900:18:37,710 --> 00:18:40,200there. And that means you got tosupport30000:18:40,230 --> 00:18:43,380this is not this is a very goodpoint. And that was the point30100:18:43,380 --> 00:18:52,110that the devil's advocate raisedon on the pod news weekly, is30200:18:52,110 --> 00:18:57,840that people definitely want tomake sure that you have ongoing30300:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,560revenue, even if you thelisteners tuned out and I think30400:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,710it's fantastic. I think that'sreally the only thing I would30500:19:04,710 --> 00:19:10,230want is a it has to be open,voluntary from the sender side30600:19:10,230 --> 00:19:15,930and it has to respect the valueblock. Otherwise, you know,30700:19:16,170 --> 00:19:18,150that's I mean, that those arethe things and that's I think30800:19:18,150 --> 00:19:19,320it's a great idea.30900:19:20,130 --> 00:19:24,600Yeah, that's exactly what it'sfor on my side. I'm just doing31000:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,410it the wrong way.31100:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,550Yes, shame on you.31200:19:27,060 --> 00:19:30,600I know. And I feel ashamed, Ifeel a bit deep but I31300:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,350did I had my own discoverybecause on the Umbral now they31400:19:34,350 --> 00:19:36,990have something called the oakoak node31500:19:37,860 --> 00:19:41,070and I think I may have installedyou're gonna saw that31600:19:41,070 --> 00:19:45,270I mean, it's it's really it'svery, very cool. And it uses31700:19:45,270 --> 00:19:50,790something called Bikram soinstead of using a clock, it31800:19:50,790 --> 00:19:57,060uses the the kind of block clockof Bitcoin, the estimated every31900:19:57,060 --> 00:20:00,45010 minutes being being a blockand you can sketch It has little32000:20:00,450 --> 00:20:03,570handy calculator. So you don'thave to think how many blocks it32100:20:03,570 --> 00:20:06,210will be to do a daily or aweekly or a monthly recurring32200:20:06,210 --> 00:20:11,940payment. And actually tried itout I sent. I think I sent like,32300:20:12,240 --> 00:20:19,020was it 10,000 or 24,000 SATs so1000 SATs an hour to James32400:20:19,020 --> 00:20:25,440Cridland, which he neveracknowledged by the way. I'm32500:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,300looking at and I'm lookingbecause yeah, you can schedule32600:20:27,300 --> 00:20:31,860that. And interestingly, onepayment failed. I see one32700:20:31,860 --> 00:20:32,880payment failed,32800:20:33,900 --> 00:20:38,730I think, easily a thing thatcould be done by a fountain or32900:20:38,730 --> 00:20:41,970Alby just hanging out, and Iwouldn't be able to know and I33000:20:41,970 --> 00:20:46,140would gladly pay them a 1% feeon top of this to facilitate and33100:20:46,140 --> 00:20:46,710automate33200:20:46,950 --> 00:20:49,890right on, I think that's the wayit should be. And then as long33300:20:49,890 --> 00:20:54,840as we're respecting the valueblock, which would be a guest33400:20:54,870 --> 00:20:57,480retrieved through the GUID or ifit's not if it's not in a33500:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,150podcast app, but if it's in anapp already, then you already33600:21:00,150 --> 00:21:03,150know what podcast it is. I wouldsupport that, too. I think it's33700:21:03,150 --> 00:21:05,970a great idea. But I just want tomake sure that people don't get33800:21:05,970 --> 00:21:08,040ahead of themselves, becauseit's already go and we're going33900:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,120to integrate this and that's itbut not seven, SM se like it has34000:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,910to be like you have to sign adocument that they can take it34100:21:14,910 --> 00:21:17,190from you. I'm like, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, there's not34200:21:17,190 --> 00:21:19,680going to work this the wrong wayaround.34300:21:19,740 --> 00:21:26,340We don't know contracts. That'sno, no. So I would say breeze34400:21:26,340 --> 00:21:29,400could do this too. In its futureincarnation. I don't think they34500:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,330could do it now. But like whenthey on their next generation of34600:21:33,330 --> 00:21:37,500service? They could do this too.I would think absolutely. Yeah.34700:21:38,190 --> 00:21:39,840You know, as you'll have like analways on34800:21:39,930 --> 00:21:45,000now there are people are goingto developers have to start34900:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760thinking about stuff. Becauseyou know, it's real easy to35000:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,490drain a wallet if you if youmess something up, you know, so35100:21:50,490 --> 00:21:55,710the UX and, and taking allstupid use cases into account I35200:21:55,710 --> 00:21:56,820think is important.35300:21:58,200 --> 00:22:04,500Sup Yo sup? In the chat room, hesays maybe setting a monthly set35400:22:04,500 --> 00:22:09,570donation limit, like a millionset. So I don't I just see what35500:22:09,570 --> 00:22:13,590he's saying. And I think that'salso another possibility. Of35600:22:13,590 --> 00:22:17,520course, you can say like, therecould be like, so we've talked35700:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,270about just pure V for V at themoment, you send a vault, you35800:22:21,270 --> 00:22:24,420send a manual payment each time.And then we've talked about35900:22:24,420 --> 00:22:30,540like, setting a per minuteamount, and then it goes up to a36000:22:30,540 --> 00:22:34,980certain limits and stops. Well,the the the sort of third36100:22:34,980 --> 00:22:41,790variation of that, is that yousay, Okay, I want to send, let's36200:22:41,790 --> 00:22:48,210just say 50, set a maximum of75,000, or 100,000 SATs for this36300:22:48,210 --> 00:22:52,110particular show that you like alot each month. And at the end36400:22:52,110 --> 00:22:55,260of the month, if it's not, ifyou haven't sent it all, it just36500:22:55,260 --> 00:22:57,690sends it sends the rest of it.Yeah, that's another that's a36600:22:57,690 --> 00:22:58,290third option.36700:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,690I mean, it's, it's, it's clearlya podcast app feature, a wallet36800:23:03,690 --> 00:23:06,960feature. It could be it could bea service, which would be some36900:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,450kind of custodial thing. I mean,there's a lot of different ways37000:23:09,450 --> 00:23:13,380to do it. I really liked the oaknode. And I just haven't gotten37100:23:13,380 --> 00:23:16,410around to but I made a note tomyself to reach out to the oak37200:23:16,410 --> 00:23:21,000node folks and say, Hey, exactsame thing. Only I want to get37300:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,300it, you know, just hook it up tothis API. And I want to be able37400:23:24,300 --> 00:23:27,420to select the podcast, selectthe do all the rest of the37500:23:27,420 --> 00:23:30,720stuff, and then just in and justlet it go from my from my37600:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,640current wallet or whatever itis.37700:23:33,389 --> 00:23:37,139Good speaker. Speaking of splitsfor a minute, can we throw I37800:23:37,139 --> 00:23:41,699would like to put in Alex gatesfor 5% For this episode and37900:23:41,699 --> 00:23:43,799Steven crater for 5% you downwith them?38000:23:44,220 --> 00:23:45,870Of course, because38100:23:48,210 --> 00:23:52,770Alex helped me it's so much digwith the pod pain dot cloud38200:23:52,770 --> 00:23:55,860stuff he I want to give him some38300:23:56,700 --> 00:23:59,400documentation again, of course,right? Stephen is38400:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,700like the he's like the lefthemisphere of my brain. Like he38500:24:02,700 --> 00:24:06,090just does things before I evenknow that I want that I need to38600:24:06,090 --> 00:24:09,240do them. He'll come up and justlike eMERGE some pull requests38700:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,070and like, Oh, crap, thanks.38800:24:11,100 --> 00:24:15,270I didn't do we have lightningaddresses for these gents? Yeah,38900:24:15,270 --> 00:24:15,690I'll get them for39000:24:15,690 --> 00:24:19,740you. Okay, yeah. But that's Ijust didn't want to forget that.39100:24:19,770 --> 00:24:23,970But that's, I think that's Ithink all of those things are on39200:24:23,970 --> 00:24:28,710the table. All those variationsof V for V isn't the V 50. It's39300:24:28,710 --> 00:24:32,100a part of the spirit of valuesvalues that it's well it's39400:24:32,100 --> 00:24:38,100voluntary and overspent yes andopen Yeah, exactly. So So39500:24:38,370 --> 00:24:42,090monthly if I choose to send youmonthly a specific amount Well,39600:24:42,090 --> 00:24:45,030I miss my choice and that's justas fun as doing it any other39700:24:45,030 --> 00:24:45,270way.39800:24:45,570 --> 00:24:52,680You know Roi. Roi of breeze hehe tweeted, let me see what he39900:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,030tweeted here. He tweeted aboutthe millions Yeah, status screen40000:24:57,030 --> 00:25:01,230from from his breeze account. Hesays hashtag V For V works, I've40100:25:01,230 --> 00:25:05,250boosted over 1 million SATs topodcasts index.org show this40200:25:05,250 --> 00:25:09,270year, which is more than anysubscription I have. And it's40300:25:09,270 --> 00:25:15,150true. It's about the it's aboutthe open net. It's like, Ah,40400:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,900it's the open nature of it. It'sthe open nature of the you will40500:25:18,900 --> 00:25:24,780have people who give 10,000times more than then then 90% of40600:25:24,780 --> 00:25:28,440the other. But it starts toequal out stick with it people.40700:25:29,340 --> 00:25:32,730I listed new media show live theother day. Yeah,40800:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,790I missed them. They were theyjust gone off air. And I'm like,40900:25:35,820 --> 00:25:38,190oh, man, I missed him. Yeah.41000:25:38,970 --> 00:25:40,170Boosted him because I was like,41100:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,030finally, finally it41200:25:42,030 --> 00:25:47,550worked. Yeah. It was like, Yay,there's just this this sort of41300:25:47,550 --> 00:25:50,430like sense of euphoria. And Iwanted to be part of the show.41400:25:50,430 --> 00:25:51,720Yes, exactly.41500:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,810That's so true. So true.41600:25:55,230 --> 00:25:57,900But the cloud working good. Bythe way, the new version rolled41700:25:57,900 --> 00:26:00,180out. Well, yes, sir. That wasfive in the pipe.41800:26:00,210 --> 00:26:04,740That was actually first on mytop of my list is pod pink 2.0.41900:26:04,740 --> 00:26:08,940You've been heads down with AlexOf course. And and Stephen42000:26:08,940 --> 00:26:14,400crater on the on thetranscriber. Dude, tell us42100:26:14,460 --> 00:26:17,040what's going on what's happeningseems like everything is42200:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,490working, what has changed? Do weneed to know or just it says42300:26:20,490 --> 00:26:22,350what it does was says on thetin.42400:26:23,820 --> 00:26:26,970Some of that, I mean, like someof the stuff at the internals is42500:26:26,970 --> 00:26:33,210interesting. So the, the, it wasa long way to go on the back42600:26:33,210 --> 00:26:39,300end, just to get a little bit,just just to get something small42700:26:39,300 --> 00:26:45,270on the front end, like in solike, what we needed was the42800:26:45,270 --> 00:26:48,600ability to send pod ping dotcloud. And let me let me briefly42900:26:48,600 --> 00:26:57,030review me, let me go by please.And pod. So pod paying you, you43000:26:57,030 --> 00:27:01,320send your ELS to it. And thenpeople can watch the pod ping43100:27:01,410 --> 00:27:04,890system and, and see those URLswithin a few seconds after you43200:27:04,890 --> 00:27:07,980send that and do whatever theywant. Right. And so there's43300:27:08,430 --> 00:27:11,190right now there's one backendwriter and that's for the hive43400:27:11,340 --> 00:27:16,500blockchain. So we what we needit that's a complex thing to do,43500:27:16,530 --> 00:27:18,840no matter what Brian says, thatis a hard thing to do.43600:27:20,220 --> 00:27:20,940What is yeah,43700:27:20,970 --> 00:27:23,400what is the hard thing to do thehigh the high, getting set up43800:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,570with hive, posting keys andsetting up the, the script to43900:27:27,570 --> 00:27:31,740the hive writer. And I was like,that's, that's not for the it's44000:27:31,740 --> 00:27:34,230not something that you just jumpinto without knowing know,44100:27:34,230 --> 00:27:38,070which, which is why we had abasic endpoint, right that44200:27:38,070 --> 00:27:38,820people could hit.44300:27:39,360 --> 00:27:42,750Yeah, so we started, that's whatpoppin dot cloud was meant to44400:27:42,750 --> 00:27:46,740alleviate all the pain ofonboarding. So we do all that on44500:27:46,740 --> 00:27:50,520the back end, as sort of amaster host. I mean, you can44600:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,970either run your own Mastodon oryou can fire up a $10 month44700:27:53,970 --> 00:27:57,360master dose. So that's whatwe're doing, we're doing the pot44800:27:57,360 --> 00:28:02,100where so poppin dot cloud is thefront end to the to the44900:28:02,100 --> 00:28:05,010complexity of the back end ofwhat popping really is on the45000:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,070public on blockchains. Andwhatever else we do in the45100:28:08,070 --> 00:28:11,580future, which should be agossip. So I've been other IPFS45200:28:11,580 --> 00:28:16,080things. So that that's whatpopping cloud is. So a read of45300:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,940the original incarnation of itwas you send, you just send the45400:28:20,940 --> 00:28:23,850feed URL, all you're doing isyou're letting the in the world45500:28:23,850 --> 00:28:24,270know45600:28:24,300 --> 00:28:28,170that data, right. And now wehave reason codes, I think45700:28:28,170 --> 00:28:31,500origin there's a new format thatthat comes along with this 2.0.45800:28:31,740 --> 00:28:34,710So we have two extra URLparameters and pod bean dot45900:28:34,710 --> 00:28:39,150cloud. So you sit you still sendyour URL equals the feed URL.46000:28:39,180 --> 00:28:44,910Now you can also send two extraparameters with that. Reason46100:28:44,940 --> 00:28:47,670equals and then a reason code.And those reason codes are46200:28:47,670 --> 00:28:52,950either live update, or live end.And there will be new ones in46300:28:52,950 --> 00:28:58,770the future. And you all can, youcan also send a medium. And the46400:28:58,770 --> 00:29:03,630medium is there's like mediumequals all the available mediums46500:29:03,630 --> 00:29:06,480that are listed in the podcastnamespace. And then some that46600:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,810are that are new that are comingthat are the L versions of those46700:29:09,810 --> 00:29:10,890mediums, which are lists.46800:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,520And this is to save people thehassle of looking up what medium46900:29:17,670 --> 00:29:21,690said feed would contain. Welljust get it right away.47000:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,150It's it's more of a dis themedium aspect of this looks,47100:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,970looks down. Looks down field alittle bit. So you're it's more47200:29:33,750 --> 00:29:37,560of a heads up to an app. Soimagine in the future,47300:29:37,590 --> 00:29:41,550right? If switch switch, switchto music. We got music incoming.47400:29:41,790 --> 00:29:44,340Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. Sothat's what I mean. So instead47500:29:44,340 --> 00:29:47,100of them having to determine thatthey get the information right47600:29:47,100 --> 00:29:48,600away can switch UI.47700:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,860And they can Yeah, they can.They'll like if this if this app47800:29:52,860 --> 00:29:57,240really only cares about livemusic. You you want them to be47900:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,670able to filter that always outright? In only see music streams48000:30:02,670 --> 00:30:07,710that go live. So, so just addingthose two URL parameters that48100:30:08,430 --> 00:30:12,570that seems like a small thing,but it ended up being a big a48200:30:12,570 --> 00:30:17,670big lift. No kidding. Becausethe front end, Alex had to re48300:30:17,670 --> 00:30:22,350engineer the back the back end.And I needed to re engineer the48400:30:22,350 --> 00:30:27,330backside of the front end tospeak. Cam proto over these over48500:30:27,330 --> 00:30:27,960the socket.48600:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,020Okay. And just briefly, becauseI remember you were very excited48700:30:31,020 --> 00:30:33,420about Captain proto along withyour captain crunch in the48800:30:33,420 --> 00:30:37,260morning. So what exactly this isCaptain Pro? Let me ask you48900:30:37,260 --> 00:30:42,600this. Has Captain proto lived upto your expectations? Oh,49000:30:42,660 --> 00:30:44,040100% 100%.49100:30:44,340 --> 00:30:46,830What's the one time all right iSo it49200:30:46,830 --> 00:30:53,640totally has. You. So you, you'refamiliar enough with? Like TCP49300:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,670sockets, right? Yeah. So imaginethat you imagine I have Mission49400:30:59,670 --> 00:31:05,250video Computer A and computer B,and open a TCP socket between49500:31:05,250 --> 00:31:09,630the two. Now what you just haveit you have you have? You have a49600:31:09,630 --> 00:31:14,400pipe? And you can put anythingthrough that pipe? Yes. There's49700:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,290no, nothing is gonna keep youfrom doing from sending anything49800:31:19,290 --> 00:31:23,130and everything over this pipe?Which is chaos. You have to49900:31:23,130 --> 00:31:26,760agree on a protocol. Yes, tosome degree. Yeah, you have to50000:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,880see, see buffer overflows, seehow this chaos works. So you,50100:31:32,910 --> 00:31:36,060you have to agree on a protocolon both ends of the pipe, the50200:31:36,060 --> 00:31:41,010protocol, we agreed to, in thefirst iteration of pod paying50300:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,430dot cloud, was that all that'sgoing to come through the pipe50400:31:44,430 --> 00:31:47,670is going to be an A nullterminated a new line terminated50500:31:47,670 --> 00:31:53,220URL? String. That's it. That'sall you get the pet the dog, you50600:31:53,220 --> 00:31:56,850know? Yeah, I'm there. I'm gonnaget I'm going to receive it. And50700:31:56,850 --> 00:32:01,320then I'm going to send that overto the back end writer. Well, we50800:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,770now if you got reasons andmediums and stuff was just, what50900:32:04,770 --> 00:32:07,740are you going to come up with astupid copy? No, like complex51000:32:07,740 --> 00:32:12,810String, String thing where youhave like, comma separated or51100:32:12,810 --> 00:32:18,030something like that? No, that'sthis, this crazy. So. So Alex51200:32:18,030 --> 00:32:20,460was like, let's let's useCaptain proto, which will allow51300:32:20,460 --> 00:32:24,420us to create types, typedmessages, strongly typed51400:32:24,420 --> 00:32:30,600messages, that has enums in it,integers, strings, you know,51500:32:30,630 --> 00:32:35,460whatever. And so that's what wedid, we created, he created a51600:32:35,460 --> 00:32:39,840schema, using the captain protomessage form a strongly typed51700:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,290message format. So we're gonnanow we're passing those back and51800:32:43,290 --> 00:32:49,950forth. And it's beautiful. It'sbeautiful. It's so efficient. So51900:32:53,730 --> 00:32:58,170crack open a colon. And so we,we, we had this thing working.52000:32:58,950 --> 00:33:05,250But it was, it was slow. Like,it was like, the problem here is52100:33:05,610 --> 00:33:11,400the is the Z MQ, which is thewhich is the pipe. We're using52200:33:11,700 --> 00:33:21,660the Z MQ socket, doesn't handlemulti threading, who will on the52300:33:21,660 --> 00:33:23,820rusts on the rusts. IDE, and Idon't know if that's a52400:33:23,820 --> 00:33:26,940limitation of the C library thathas this wrapped? I don't know.52500:33:27,390 --> 00:33:31,080But but you get, it's just notwhere it doesn't work? Well, we52600:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,910were limited to just a singlethread, right? And so what's52700:33:35,910 --> 00:33:37,380going to happen, you know, whatyou have to do is you have to52800:33:37,380 --> 00:33:40,530send a message, and then youhave to wait for a reply. So52900:33:40,530 --> 00:33:43,830something is going to block eachtime, like you're going to be53000:33:43,980 --> 00:33:49,560waiting to either send or reply,or receive. So there's this this53100:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,720weird, it was just really slowto finally we were like, we kept53200:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,080debating this and making littlesmall incremental improvement53300:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,500improvements. And then also, andthen I was like, okay, look,53400:34:01,530 --> 00:34:05,070this is what I'm going to do,every time we send for every53500:34:05,070 --> 00:34:09,960URL, I'm also going to attemptto receive, and I'm going to set53600:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,140a 500 millisecond timeout on thereceive, so it waits for half a53700:34:13,140 --> 00:34:16,590second. And if it doesn't get areply, it just moves on and53800:34:16,590 --> 00:34:21,180sends the next one. Okay, thatstarted working really well. And53900:34:21,180 --> 00:34:24,390then, and then Alex. And I waslike, Okay, this is great. I54000:34:24,390 --> 00:34:27,660mean, we're sending like, Thisis going really fast. And then54100:34:27,660 --> 00:34:30,150Alex was like, Oh, you don'tneed these like you 50054200:34:30,150 --> 00:34:32,880milliseconds wait too long. He'slike just said for, like, 1054300:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,240milliseconds. So I dropped thething down to 10 milliseconds.54400:34:36,750 --> 00:34:43,050Oh my god. It was like, we threw10,000 phase out and it was one54500:34:44,520 --> 00:34:50,340of these things. It's 30seconds. It was amazing. And so54600:34:50,850 --> 00:34:53,220So then, of course, then we getaddicted to and we start54700:34:53,220 --> 00:34:56,100thinking today Alex is likedon't 100 Edit, go, go go and54800:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,350100,000 feet 100,000 phases.thing and Brian's asleep in54900:35:01,350 --> 00:35:05,430Israel. He wakes up the nextmorning and his little chart55000:35:05,430 --> 00:35:08,790thing looks like, you know, itlooks like a bomber, you know,55100:35:09,030 --> 00:35:12,690attack the city, because he's,you know, he's stats chart. And55200:35:12,690 --> 00:35:16,830he's like, Oh my God, what didy'all do? Like we ran the test55300:35:16,830 --> 00:35:20,100net out of resource credits orwhatever that means and all this55400:35:20,100 --> 00:35:24,000kind of stuff. And as I wasthrowing 200,000 at it, in the55500:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,270end, he was like, brown welcomewas like you, whatever you did55600:35:27,270 --> 00:35:31,050don't ever do that again.Anyway,55700:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,580what does that actually do onBrian's and what did it did?55800:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,110What did that do?55900:35:37,620 --> 00:35:41,760It just basically just, like,blew the hive thing up. I mean,56000:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,940like, it was just like rockingthat thing. Like, it's fast, it56100:35:44,940 --> 00:35:49,740was saturated as fast as itwould go the blockchain. So56200:35:49,740 --> 00:35:54,810we're basically we could notfeed it any faster. So our our56300:35:54,810 --> 00:35:58,560side is as efficient as it canget is what that translates56400:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,090into. So then you just multiplythat times we have five, five,56500:36:03,090 --> 00:36:06,540load balanced wrapping cloudhosts, right, right, you know,56600:36:06,540 --> 00:36:13,320and we can go, we can go 25,000Feed URLs, you know, a minute.56700:36:13,859 --> 00:36:19,949So these now these the pod PinkDot cloud hosts, those are just56800:36:19,949 --> 00:36:23,189regular servers that are Pat,they're synced together that are56900:36:23,189 --> 00:36:25,979serving that to each other whatexactly is happening on just so57000:36:25,979 --> 00:36:31,259I understand is hive still thebackbone of the system?57100:36:32,220 --> 00:36:36,240Yeah, yeah, it is. So we have wehave five servers. And we have57200:36:36,240 --> 00:36:40,230and each one of them has theirown set of posting keys. So57300:36:40,230 --> 00:36:44,280each, all five of them can postsimultaneously. And it just gets57400:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,620load balanced between everyrequest and57500:36:46,620 --> 00:36:49,050where do they post they postinto the into the hive57600:36:49,050 --> 00:36:49,770blockchain.57700:36:50,130 --> 00:36:53,970Yes, around. That's right. Yeah.So but one of the RE57800:36:53,970 --> 00:36:57,360architecture, one of the aspectsof this re architecture is we57900:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,830want to also have, we want to doother backends. So we want to58000:37:01,830 --> 00:37:08,520have, like IPFS gossip sub. Andalso, I want an object storage58100:37:08,580 --> 00:37:11,250IPFS gossip sub?58200:37:11,880 --> 00:37:19,440Yes. So it's like Pub Sub overIPFS. It's using live lib p2p58300:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,580protocol. So yes, that thing Ishowed you I gave you.58400:37:25,620 --> 00:37:30,120It's is that anything like thishole punch, keep business58500:37:30,150 --> 00:37:30,810similar.58600:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,400I don't know enough about a holepunch to know what that even is58700:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,760yet.58800:37:36,900 --> 00:37:40,500Me neither. It's like, I set upa room, everyone joined. And58900:37:40,500 --> 00:37:42,510that was the end of the test.And I'm still in there like,59000:37:42,510 --> 00:37:46,620hello, hello. anybody doinganything here?59100:37:46,890 --> 00:37:51,810My buddy Tim. He's really good.He's been sending me stuff about59200:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,680key in hole punch for a fewmonths. He's really into it. And59300:37:55,950 --> 00:38:00,480that's the first time I've havebeen in a room. And like seen it59400:38:00,510 --> 00:38:03,390because someone sent sent thatto me. And the message was like,59500:38:04,050 --> 00:38:07,920Excuse me. It was like, pullpunch. Check it out. This is59600:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,960what cross app comments. filehosting. Everything will be on59700:38:12,960 --> 00:38:19,050this in the future. Like okay,I'll check that out. Now, I you59800:38:19,050 --> 00:38:22,590know, it's basically a messagingsystem that ties into lightning59900:38:22,650 --> 00:38:27,390and some DHT, which isdistributed hash tables, I think60000:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,740DHT space.60100:38:29,730 --> 00:38:34,110That's it. That's the thing is Idon't it ties into lightning for60200:38:34,110 --> 00:38:36,660micro payments, but it doesn'tuse lightning for his60300:38:36,660 --> 00:38:37,620communication. No,60400:38:37,650 --> 00:38:39,390no, it's just in there. Just andI was glad.60500:38:39,930 --> 00:38:42,750Yeah, when I, when I first sawit, I was like, oh, no, they're60600:38:42,750 --> 00:38:46,590gonna try to use Lonnie forchat, which is not good. But60700:38:47,430 --> 00:38:48,690yeah, so I mean, we want to havethis stuff.60800:38:48,720 --> 00:38:50,550Were you able to play that fileI put in there.60900:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,580Oh, I didn't see a file.61000:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,580It was a player. It was a noagenda episode.61100:38:57,450 --> 00:39:00,420Oh, I hadn't you haven't? Ididn't see it. Oh, it will still61200:39:00,420 --> 00:39:01,920up on my screen on my othercomputer.61300:39:02,430 --> 00:39:07,800It was probably in there before.Before you logged in, I don't61400:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,620know. I don't understand. Idon't understand why. I like it.61500:39:13,710 --> 00:39:16,680If it's true, but you know, Ilike IPFS too. There's all kinds61600:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,110of cool stuff. Alright, so it'sopen now. So it can be other61700:39:19,110 --> 00:39:20,490back end. Interesting. All61800:39:20,490 --> 00:39:23,250right. Good. Yeah. Yep. So andhopefully and I think that's61900:39:23,250 --> 00:39:26,550necessary. I mean, because yeah,you know, you never want all62000:39:26,550 --> 00:39:30,540your eggs and eggs in one basketand you want to diversify. So62100:39:30,540 --> 00:39:33,330we're gonna, I want I want thatobject. I want to have it on62200:39:33,330 --> 00:39:36,810object storage every you know,every few seconds to read a new62300:39:36,810 --> 00:39:40,200object storage block. You know,62400:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,600tell me about the object storagebecause that's what you want. So62500:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,420I'm paying extra attention tomaybe it's a stocking stuffer or62600:39:45,420 --> 00:39:48,120something and get you for underthe tree. Tell me what you want.62700:39:48,509 --> 00:39:52,679Give me an s3 bucket and mystock. Yeah, that's yeah, that's62800:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,379the basically just just in abucket. You know, like an a62900:39:55,379 --> 00:40:02,009public bucket goes back likethey may have like the last Half63000:40:02,009 --> 00:40:06,929a million blocks of feed URLsday, and somebody can just watch63100:40:06,959 --> 00:40:11,129you know that if it because, youknow, I mean none of these,63200:40:11,610 --> 00:40:15,750I still don't I still understandwhat blocked object storage is.63300:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,940Well, so I mean object storageis just like s3 bucket s3.63400:40:22,110 --> 00:40:23,040I gotcha, I gotcha.63500:40:23,610 --> 00:40:26,670So we'd have a, we'd have a filethat just rotates every, you63600:40:26,670 --> 00:40:29,490know, every few seconds, thathas a new that has the new63700:40:29,490 --> 00:40:31,530stuff, and then people couldjust pull it if they wanted to.63800:40:31,710 --> 00:40:33,450It's funny to think about, youknow, there's no need just63900:40:33,450 --> 00:40:35,280thinking about all thesedifferent options. It's funny64000:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,710you say that, because, you know,I've always been like an object64100:40:37,710 --> 00:40:41,820storage guy. I always like theidea of tiny files in folders64200:40:41,820 --> 00:40:44,790that you can, you know, accesseasily. It's just, it's so easy64300:40:44,790 --> 00:40:50,400to kind of maintain. And Iinstalled something that I64400:40:50,490 --> 00:40:54,570popped up on the Umbral, maybeit always been there. It's64500:40:54,570 --> 00:40:59,520called Trillium, t r i, L I, um,so it's one L, that's critical,64600:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,830because there's some otherthings out there with Double L.64700:41:02,580 --> 00:41:07,140And this, what is it, and it's,well, it's a server. So you can64800:41:07,140 --> 00:41:11,280access it through a web browser,but you can synchronize, I think64900:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,490they have a I know they have aWindows client, I'm using an A65000:41:14,490 --> 00:41:16,980Linux client and someexperimental Mac note, no65100:41:16,980 --> 00:41:23,250mobile. And it's, it's kind oflike freedom controller for the65200:41:23,250 --> 00:41:28,770rest of my life. And as I delveinto it more, I realize it's65300:41:28,770 --> 00:41:35,670actually frontier, in butwritten in proper database, with65400:41:35,850 --> 00:41:41,340modern with modern languages,because it's outliner based, and65500:41:41,340 --> 00:41:44,370the nodes can have properties.And the nodes can also run65600:41:44,370 --> 00:41:48,690JavaScript. So you can you canrun and compile a JavaScript65700:41:48,690 --> 00:41:52,140that does stuff as it makes theapplication useful. And it has a65800:41:52,380 --> 00:41:57,540database back end. And itactually integrates almost65900:41:57,540 --> 00:42:01,980perfectly with freedomcontroller. Were it not that the66000:42:01,980 --> 00:42:07,890export of all versions of OPMLthat they claim is 2.0? It's not66100:42:07,890 --> 00:42:09,810Yeah, you know, it doesn'tinclude include the link66200:42:09,810 --> 00:42:13,860property, it's all and ofcourse, which is like, it's so66300:42:13,860 --> 00:42:17,970close, you're so close to theproperty of the note, and they66400:42:17,970 --> 00:42:21,870have their own properties to allkinds of source, it's open66500:42:21,870 --> 00:42:26,610source. And, and it's, it's,it's, I got to tell you, man,66600:42:26,610 --> 00:42:31,140this thing has changed the way Iorganized myself. Because you66700:42:31,140 --> 00:42:35,820know, an hour Lilla you know,don't want L one, l one l look,66800:42:36,480 --> 00:42:41,130it's endless, because Iunderstand outliners. And so it66900:42:41,130 --> 00:42:45,300lets me work, it has all kindsof good shortcuts and tools for67000:42:45,300 --> 00:42:48,990Outliner, which really iscreating, you know, having a UI67100:42:48,990 --> 00:42:51,840for creating different types ofnodes. So there's a node that67200:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,740becomes a folder node, that's alink, a node that to to do,67300:42:55,770 --> 00:43:00,780which you know, is taken from,from org mode. You know, it, it67400:43:00,780 --> 00:43:04,470has a beautiful editor in it.This is this is the main thing.67500:43:04,470 --> 00:43:09,000So every node, you can edit the,you know, with a full on wiziwig67600:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,080markdown, and I just have I'vebeen holding back on this just67700:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,780to tell you how excited I amabout it, because it's kind of67800:43:16,110 --> 00:43:19,140something I think you might likeit. I mean, it's, it's it's67900:43:19,140 --> 00:43:21,660really changed the way Iorganized my life. And Tina has68000:43:21,660 --> 00:43:23,760gone. Who are you?68100:43:25,050 --> 00:43:25,980You remember?68200:43:27,210 --> 00:43:30,420You did this at 7am. You're likeyou already had all that change68300:43:30,420 --> 00:43:34,830and checked what is going on?Yeah, it's really helping me get68400:43:34,830 --> 00:43:35,520things done.68500:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,290TriMet says Trilliumhierarchical notetaking68600:43:40,290 --> 00:43:42,510application with focus onbuilding large personal68700:43:42,510 --> 00:43:43,980knowledge bases. Yeah, this68800:43:43,980 --> 00:43:47,610guy's got kick ass search, whichis, you know, one drawback of68900:43:47,610 --> 00:43:49,680most of these systems can import69000:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,550OPML. Yep.69100:43:51,030 --> 00:43:54,330Yeah, yes, it will. It willsuck. No, it will suck. It will69200:43:54,330 --> 00:43:57,510not import the properties. It'llimport basically, the node69300:43:57,510 --> 00:43:58,110structure69400:43:59,070 --> 00:44:00,930will import the links at leastNo,69500:44:01,290 --> 00:44:03,780no, no. Why would it do that?No. Why would it do that? That69600:44:03,780 --> 00:44:06,930would be completely well, it'sprobably just a small fix. You69700:44:06,930 --> 00:44:10,380know, it's I'm not quite thereyet. But I'm committed to the69800:44:10,380 --> 00:44:11,010system.69900:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,580And then they're there UK, theirUkraine flag on their GitHub70000:44:14,580 --> 00:44:16,800repos as big as the screenshotof the product. Yeah,70100:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,710I kind of I just, I just lookedpast the Yes. I would love to70200:44:22,710 --> 00:44:25,860support the developer. I'm notgoing to support Ukraine. Okay.70300:44:26,190 --> 00:44:29,730That's not going to support themilitary industrial complex.70400:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,900That just check it out.70500:44:33,930 --> 00:44:39,900Something to have a look at.Okay, here's a question. Oh, no,70600:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,090no. Well, okay.70700:44:42,420 --> 00:44:46,110Yeah, I just I just saw mymonitor over. Yeah, I'm good.70800:44:46,890 --> 00:44:54,030So real lot of excitementaround. Mastodon, a lot of70900:44:54,450 --> 00:45:00,000exciting development people arediscovering activity activity.71000:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,740Pub Sub hub thing called crossact comments. It's now or never.71100:45:08,730 --> 00:45:12,030And I just want to understandwhy it seems not to be71200:45:12,030 --> 00:45:12,660happening.71300:45:16,650 --> 00:45:26,790It could be it could be becausepeople do when people go into71400:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,570this, I think we need to acceptthis as a possible as a possible71500:45:30,570 --> 00:45:34,530reality here. Now Now, whetheror not this thing I'm about to71600:45:34,530 --> 00:45:41,790say is true, does not ultimatelydecide doesn't bear on whether71700:45:41,790 --> 00:45:45,780or not the social interact tagor the way that we've built it71800:45:45,810 --> 00:45:52,020is needs to exist, because Ithink it does, regardless. Isn't71900:45:52,020 --> 00:45:55,620it's never a bad idea to have agood protocol for a thing.72000:45:56,790 --> 00:46:05,430Right. But it could be that mostpeople don't want anything72100:46:05,430 --> 00:46:07,080social in their podcast app.72200:46:09,570 --> 00:46:13,590Okay, so here's what I think. Ithink first of all, there's only72300:46:14,490 --> 00:46:19,170I know maybe there may be somecast apod feeds out there.72400:46:19,170 --> 00:46:22,590There's every single one of myfeeds no agenda, and if you want72500:46:22,590 --> 00:46:25,290some traction, please go look atop three and tell me if you72600:46:25,290 --> 00:46:29,190think no agenda has the tractionfor you to try something. I72700:46:29,190 --> 00:46:32,400always put a route post inthere. There's action on the72800:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,750route post because peoplerespond to that in the no agenda72900:46:36,750 --> 00:46:41,550social Mastodon so it's a notbeing surfaced. And there's no73000:46:41,550 --> 00:46:48,870one has a log into your Mastodonto join the conversation. And so73100:46:48,870 --> 00:46:53,610therefore, in my mind, that'show we move things forward as if73200:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,540and this is down to the appdevelopers has to come first in73300:46:57,540 --> 00:47:01,080my mind because I already havethat we're creating the content73400:47:01,110 --> 00:47:07,170with enough enough users for itto not be a dead feature. And73500:47:07,170 --> 00:47:11,130then only then will hostingcompany start to consider adding73600:47:11,130 --> 00:47:15,120that themselves. For the for thelarger audience. This is what73700:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,390we've seen in the past twoyears. This is how it works. But73800:47:18,390 --> 00:47:22,500for some reason people and I doblame a little bit on Cridland73900:47:22,500 --> 00:47:28,470with pushing the the boosterGraham calm comments in, in74000:47:28,470 --> 00:47:31,500Fountain, because fountain isjust that's their ecosystem. Now74100:47:31,500 --> 00:47:34,260fountain almost can't do crossapp comments. They've kind of74200:47:34,410 --> 00:47:37,230painted themselves into acorner, which I'm not against.74300:47:37,350 --> 00:47:41,880In fact, I like it very much.But But if if no one is going to74400:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,790pick up the cross app commentsand activity pub, I'm going to74500:47:44,790 --> 00:47:48,210go full in on on doing it withlightning whatever fountain is74600:47:48,210 --> 00:47:52,800doing, because my content is notnot being surfaced.74700:47:56,160 --> 00:48:07,530Will so who who would do it? Whowould like so What app do you74800:48:07,530 --> 00:48:10,470expect? would do cross Fcomments in74900:48:10,470 --> 00:48:19,470the breeze? Fountain, curiocaster cast a PA? Cast thematic.75000:48:21,570 --> 00:48:26,280Okay, and I would hope thiswould be a great thing for75100:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,200Pocket Casts.75200:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,830Yeah, Pocket Cast course.They're going all in on activity75300:48:31,830 --> 00:48:35,670pet pub, so let's please letsomeone else go first. But I'm75400:48:35,670 --> 00:48:36,750asking our group.75500:48:38,700 --> 00:48:42,660I would think that the tip to mePocket Casts makes the most75600:48:42,660 --> 00:48:47,490sense for this feature. Man,maybe I'm nuts. But I mean, to75700:48:47,490 --> 00:48:50,880me, it just it just seems likeit's right in their wheelhouse.75800:48:51,510 --> 00:48:55,890It's an open protocol. I mean,they're all about social and75900:48:55,890 --> 00:48:59,130about, you know, I mean, it'sowned by the company that76000:48:59,190 --> 00:49:03,690created WordPress. Like that's,that's in WordPress is all about76100:49:03,690 --> 00:49:07,800interop. And, you know, theysort of in in not invented but76200:49:08,250 --> 00:49:11,460absolutely popularized thenotion of having comments on a76300:49:11,460 --> 00:49:15,510blog post. I mean, all thatstuff just makes sense that76400:49:15,510 --> 00:49:19,350Pocket Casts would be the one todo cross app comments and76500:49:19,350 --> 00:49:23,700surface them in their app is inthere. And it's open now. So76600:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,840somebody can go at it. Nowthat's a complex feature,76700:49:28,170 --> 00:49:31,740probably require some back end athey would want that, that at76800:49:31,740 --> 00:49:34,350least as far as the UI goes, Imean, that could that could be76900:49:34,380 --> 00:49:36,930helped by the open opendevelopers now.77000:49:36,990 --> 00:49:40,410I'm just I'm not condemninganybody. I'm just I don't77100:49:40,410 --> 00:49:44,820understand. And we have a realpush a real push. There's,77200:49:44,850 --> 00:49:48,750there's developers, there'susers, this real users coming in77300:49:48,750 --> 00:49:54,060and and, and I'm very excitedabout the differences that the77400:49:54,060 --> 00:49:58,470fediverse has in a just how theculture is and the vibe of it77500:49:58,470 --> 00:50:01,980all and so perfect to do this.Now, and I just checked on curio77600:50:01,980 --> 00:50:04,530caster, I can't find it if thecomments are there. I don't77700:50:04,530 --> 00:50:07,140think pod verse surfaces them.77800:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,020Um, yeah, commercial app and thewith77900:50:10,860 --> 00:50:12,030Missy pod pod verse.78000:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,160It's in both,78100:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,670right, but I can't let me say78200:50:17,910 --> 00:50:21,750swipe you swipe to get to andupon verse on the app. Okay,78300:50:22,020 --> 00:50:28,110let me see. So I'm playing ithere. And I swipe Well, I don't78400:50:28,110 --> 00:50:32,100see how I swipe on not on theweb app.78500:50:33,300 --> 00:50:37,050I don't think oh, no, you're onthe web app. Yeah, now it's on78600:50:37,050 --> 00:50:42,060the mobile app. It's, it'sthere. Right? You swipe over to78700:50:42,060 --> 00:50:47,970I think you swipe left to get toit. Okay, I just opened my pod78800:50:47,970 --> 00:50:50,460verse and it shows a little liveemblem wrapper. So you gotta78900:50:50,460 --> 00:50:50,670love.79000:50:52,050 --> 00:50:55,440Right? But no, but no commentsthere. But I want to just on the79100:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,170last one, I'm sorry, everybody.I'm doing this while you're79200:50:58,170 --> 00:51:00,300listening to me doing it, whichis kind of creepy.79300:51:01,590 --> 00:51:05,340It is on the web app. You justnot like you don't swipe. I79400:51:05,340 --> 00:51:08,250think it's just on a differentlocation. Like the comments are79500:51:08,250 --> 00:51:11,910collapsed by default on the podverse app. So you don't you79600:51:11,910 --> 00:51:15,810don't like you don't see itunless you Oh, expand the79700:51:15,810 --> 00:51:16,470comments.79800:51:16,650 --> 00:51:19,620I'm probably not logged in. Sothat may that may be part of the79900:51:19,620 --> 00:51:20,340problem here.80000:51:21,090 --> 00:51:23,010Let me say podcasting to80100:51:24,750 --> 00:51:27,810look at ours. Now. I'm goinginto and I see the live live80200:51:27,810 --> 00:51:29,850works is so beautiful love podMolly.80300:51:29,850 --> 00:51:31,950Yeah. So if you if you click onpod, Molly80400:51:33,690 --> 00:51:34,500Yeah, no.80500:51:35,460 --> 00:51:38,250comments there. Transcriptcomments, chapters, clips,80600:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,740and I have no comments. Oh,yeah, there's no, I have no80700:51:40,740 --> 00:51:42,240comments. And the second80800:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,820it takes a second hit it, ittakes a second to play, it has80900:51:44,820 --> 00:51:48,360to go grab all the comments. Butanyway,81000:51:48,420 --> 00:51:51,600like jokes there, but you can'trespond. But you can't respond.81100:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,860It's not it's not prominentlyfeatured. And of course, if you81200:51:55,860 --> 00:51:59,220want if you want to, I don'tknow, I think Misha has seen an81300:51:59,220 --> 00:52:02,310uptake in pod verse users. Andwhy is that is because it's the81400:52:02,310 --> 00:52:05,850only podcast that gives you analert when no agenda goes live.81500:52:07,140 --> 00:52:10,410And so what I say is, hey, youcan go get to go get pod verse,81600:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,620If you want to be alerted whenno agenda show goes live. And81700:52:13,620 --> 00:52:16,950you can get right into the whatwe call the troll room. And the81800:52:16,950 --> 00:52:20,310comments are just saying I willpromote everybody's app.81900:52:20,940 --> 00:52:27,240Okay, well, they think you justanswered the question. What82000:52:27,300 --> 00:52:31,590causes apps to implementfeatures? This goes right back82100:52:31,590 --> 00:52:34,980to what we've known the wholetime. apps won't implement82200:52:34,980 --> 00:52:38,940features that don't have contentavailable to certain that it can82300:52:38,940 --> 00:52:39,630surface. As82400:52:39,629 --> 00:52:44,009I said, every single one of myshows, has it and has content in82500:52:44,009 --> 00:52:46,349it historically, for many shows,82600:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,320right? But Pocket Casts is notgoing to do something that's82700:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,010only on one or two podcasts. Whynot one more comment?82800:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,420Why do you make that assumption?82900:52:56,490 --> 00:53:00,360Because they're a big app, andthey don't want to spend time on83000:53:00,450 --> 00:53:03,960something that only has one ortwo buckets?83100:53:03,990 --> 00:53:06,900I think that's presumptuous. I'mnot so sure. They also made it83200:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,450open source, you know, like it'sa big app. And by the way, it's83300:53:09,450 --> 00:53:12,120open source. I don't know, I'mnot so sure that they wouldn't83400:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,110want to implement that.83500:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,440I mean, I think they want toimplement it. I'm just saying83600:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,880it's probably a hard.83700:53:18,060 --> 00:53:21,630Okay, but am I okay, back to myoriginal point. If we all want83800:53:21,630 --> 00:53:24,900to wait until Apple does it orPocket Casts or someone big?83900:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,200It's disappointing to me. We'vekind of went away. No, I'm just84000:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,510saying we've proven I'm notsaying this to you, we prove.84100:53:31,170 --> 00:53:36,570We've proven that when we showmore than one app doing84200:53:36,570 --> 00:53:40,440something people start to takeit up. Transcripts is a great84300:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,550example. It's a slow lift, butit's getting there. And84400:53:44,550 --> 00:53:47,310eventually it will just becomestandard. Which brings me to the84500:53:47,340 --> 00:53:51,270inside we can leave this bringsme to the next piece. Did Apple84600:53:51,270 --> 00:53:56,880just accept using the podcastnamespace by accepting the TX T84700:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,240record? or is this some back enddeal that transistor has that84800:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,400isn't really using thenamespace?84900:54:03,180 --> 00:54:06,600No, I think it's I think it's Ithink it's been sanctioned.85000:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,980But is has there been less ithasn't been a press release or85100:54:10,980 --> 00:54:11,550as someone85200:54:11,940 --> 00:54:15,420acknowledged this? No, but Ithink I think it's85300:54:16,050 --> 00:54:22,260so if I make a feed with a TXTrecord to be verified on Apple85400:54:22,260 --> 00:54:26,640podcast, I will put that in myfeed in the TX T tag.85500:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,520Right hmm yeah, so I think Ithink what they're I think85600:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,800Apple's push the way Iunderstand it, Apple's push and85700:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,120I sent you a screenshot butyeah,85800:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,620I got I got to thank you. Adamgetting would really is that85900:54:43,620 --> 00:54:51,780what the screenshots like? Isthat all? No wonder. All right.86000:54:51,810 --> 00:54:55,530So we can have Adam getting woodclips, but we can't have86100:54:55,530 --> 00:54:58,380comments. Okay. All right. Allright.86200:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,390All only children, only childishpeople get move the world86300:55:04,290 --> 00:55:10,500forward. Yeah. Okay. So I thinkI think apples. I mean, I think86400:55:10,500 --> 00:55:15,570they're going to the way Iunderstand it push hosts to86500:55:16,140 --> 00:55:18,720adopt the txt tag forverification. So86600:55:18,720 --> 00:55:24,570can I say, in my own marketingmaterials, Apple has adopted the86700:55:24,600 --> 00:55:30,630podcast namespace with the firsttag, which is the TX T tag for86800:55:30,630 --> 00:55:31,560verification.86900:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,990I think you can say whatever youwant.87000:55:35,340 --> 00:55:37,560I don't want people I don't wantpeople get mad.87100:55:38,340 --> 00:55:44,100Well, I mean, run it by run, runby Ted. So hey, Ted, can I can I87200:55:44,100 --> 00:55:46,890say this out loud? I don't thinkin public.87300:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,680The point X No, the point is,alright, fine. I'm not gonna beg87400:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,520anybody. I just want to know, Imean, if if Apple actually is87500:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,040recognizing the namespace wouldbe nice for them to say it.87600:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,330Okay, if they don't want to87700:56:00,420 --> 00:56:03,450tip, I'm looking to say it outloud. I'd be very appreciative87800:56:03,450 --> 00:56:03,870of that.87900:56:04,290 --> 00:56:07,590I'd be super appreciative of it.But it feels like to me, it88000:56:07,590 --> 00:56:10,800feels like there was this thing,Apple's gonna do this. And88100:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,590everyone's talking about it,and, and they're gonna announce88200:56:13,590 --> 00:56:17,340it, and there's no announcement.And I'm like, okay, so what was88300:56:17,340 --> 00:56:20,730the big secret about did itactually happen? Is it true? To88400:56:20,730 --> 00:56:25,290me, it feels like transistor hasjust some API thing on the back88500:56:25,290 --> 00:56:29,580end. So they don't put an emailaddress in and they hand it off88600:56:29,580 --> 00:56:32,460properly to Apple, it doesn'tfeel like well,88700:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,490now they're putting the TXTrecord in now. That's, that's88800:56:35,490 --> 00:56:39,480it's going in the feed. They'redoing it I'm transistors do it.88900:56:39,510 --> 00:56:45,960100% did it the right 100% 100%They did it the right way. And89000:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,920so and, and I think myunderstanding is Apple has had89100:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,730what at such a time because youknow, the Okay, I think the the89200:56:53,790 --> 00:57:01,350the the mix up here is that?Yeah, Apple has, as press89300:57:01,350 --> 00:57:07,800forecasted that they are goingto in the future, deprecate the89400:57:07,830 --> 00:57:12,810iTunes author, iTunes owner,TASH are sure so but they89500:57:12,810 --> 00:57:17,430haven't done it yet. They saidearly 23. So my, you know, I89600:57:17,430 --> 00:57:21,360would, the way this would go, Ithink is that they would say,89700:57:21,870 --> 00:57:24,990here, you know, on the officialday, when they actually89800:57:24,990 --> 00:57:29,070deprecated then they would havea thing that says, and here's89900:57:29,070 --> 00:57:33,690what we recommend you doinstead. That's a bet you that's90000:57:33,690 --> 00:57:35,340the way that is going to comedown the pipe.90100:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,550I do not see a single TXT recordin any feeds.90200:57:42,060 --> 00:57:44,130Because you don't becausenobody's moving you only use it90300:57:44,130 --> 00:57:46,830when you move your when you cantrain and you need to verify.90400:57:48,060 --> 00:57:50,550Okay, it goes in there when youverify90500:57:50,850 --> 00:57:52,980I'm just suspicious90600:57:58,260 --> 00:58:00,990that's gonna be that's gonna bethe subtitle of your90700:58:00,990 --> 00:58:02,850autobiography. Adam curry90800:58:03,930 --> 00:58:06,330it's Adam curry held hostage bymy hair.90900:58:06,569 --> 00:58:12,929I'm going abroad stats by thegreat because91000:58:12,930 --> 00:58:15,540I have some questions aboutthat. My mommy, I'm interested91100:58:15,540 --> 00:58:16,410in your stats.91200:58:17,130 --> 00:58:20,610I just get this is somethingI've been wanting to add some91300:58:20,610 --> 00:58:27,750been in my craw for for a whileis you know, Spurlock publishes91400:58:27,750 --> 00:58:33,120these monthly stats. Where hegoes bang is like the you know,91500:58:33,120 --> 00:58:38,430the number of new episodes. Ialways wonder. What I've always91600:58:38,430 --> 00:58:43,350wanted to dig down on is howmany of these new episodes like91700:58:43,350 --> 00:58:46,440he's, he'll say, here's the hereare the hosting companies that91800:58:46,440 --> 00:58:52,050published the most new episodesfor November. And I've always91900:58:52,050 --> 00:58:58,290wondered, how many of thosefeeds that published a new92000:58:58,290 --> 00:59:04,260episode? How many of those wereexisting feeds versus new feeds?92100:59:04,980 --> 00:59:10,020So how many of what percentageof those shows that published in92200:59:10,020 --> 00:59:14,700November? How many of those washow many of those feeds was that92300:59:14,700 --> 00:59:19,950their first episode, if thatmakes sense, so indicating that92400:59:19,950 --> 00:59:23,820it's a brand new feed that'snever existed before versus an92500:59:23,820 --> 00:59:28,650existing feed that is justpublishing another episode. So92600:59:29,820 --> 00:59:34,530in November, the number ofunique feeds that published an92700:59:34,530 --> 00:59:42,390episode was 366,849. So that'spretty I mean, that's pretty92800:59:42,390 --> 00:59:47,310good. That's that's in line withwhat it normally is. Of those92900:59:47,820 --> 00:59:55,500366,849 shows that published anepisode. Anchor represented93000:59:55,500 --> 01:00:04,35096,391 of those. So That's 26%.So 26% of the feeds that93101:00:04,350 --> 01:00:08,400published a new episode 26% wereanchor, and this is in November.93201:00:09,930 --> 01:00:14,340So if you've drill if you if yousort of get down further and93301:00:14,340 --> 01:00:22,020say, how many of that 366,849feeds that published in93401:00:22,020 --> 01:00:26,340November, how many of thosefeeds were created in November?93501:00:27,750 --> 01:00:38,040It's 9% 34,188. So just shy of10% of November's feeds that93601:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,880published an episode were brandnew. There were feeds that had93701:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,600not existed before. And then ifyou drill down a little bit93801:00:45,600 --> 01:00:50,640further than that, you can say,of those escaping out of those93901:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,440but but but anchor feeds thatwere created out of thin air in94001:00:55,440 --> 01:01:04,500November were 10,032%. So it13,032 So 3% of the total, were94101:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,330brand new phase, created onAnchor so. So the way we take it94201:01:09,330 --> 01:01:14,190as a third of a third of the newfeeds that were created in94301:01:14,190 --> 01:01:19,680November, were created on Anchoris basically what you can say.94401:01:21,810 --> 01:01:28,800That's pretty. That's prettygood. I mean, like, and let me94501:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,840explain what I mean, by good. Imean, obviously, anchors this94601:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,470huge Gen gigantic free hosts, soyou're gonna they're gonna suck94701:01:37,470 --> 01:01:41,970all the air out of the room mostof the time. But you really are,94801:01:41,970 --> 01:01:45,990you're only looking at a third,that means two thirds of all the94901:01:45,990 --> 01:01:50,130brand new feeds in the month ofNovember came from other hosting95001:01:50,130 --> 01:01:55,590companies that were not anchor.So that's, I mean, that's95101:01:55,590 --> 01:01:56,790actually encouraging to me.95201:01:56,820 --> 01:02:01,080Can I ask a couple questionshere? Yes, because I see a lot95301:02:01,080 --> 01:02:06,750of this work going on. I see. Wegot some kind of stats package95401:02:06,750 --> 01:02:10,560that some, some new developercame in and was really95501:02:11,250 --> 01:02:15,210introduced that it's always nicewhen when a developer bursts a95601:02:15,210 --> 01:02:20,280new project into the world.Yeah, I enjoy that. And so I95701:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,760have a couple of questions thatroll into one. And it really95801:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,840that my main question is, whatis the why of this? So you95901:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,500You're guessing to new, you'regonna see well, I'll expand a96001:02:31,500 --> 01:02:34,710little bit and I just want tounderstand, besides creating96101:02:34,950 --> 01:02:38,790endless content for pod news andand reports for podcast96201:02:38,790 --> 01:02:43,290consultants, I think the statsare interesting. But what is the96301:02:43,290 --> 01:02:46,470objective? And what is theanalog in the radio or any other96401:02:46,470 --> 01:02:49,050publishing industry? I've nevercared what television people96501:02:49,050 --> 01:02:52,950used to watch me or what radiodevice? Is this for hosting96601:02:52,950 --> 01:02:54,030company marketing.96701:02:55,290 --> 01:03:00,690My interest in this is purely toget a sense of the overall96801:03:00,690 --> 01:03:07,110health of the podcasting. In theindependent podcast hosting96901:03:07,140 --> 01:03:09,390ecosystem. Well, you you can't97001:03:09,390 --> 01:03:12,630determine health without knowingif what is what is coming out.97101:03:12,630 --> 01:03:16,050It could be love. It could beshit, you don't know what it is.97201:03:16,050 --> 01:03:18,030I mean, you don't know thecontent of these things. You97301:03:18,030 --> 01:03:21,330just it's just random. To me.It's the other side of the97401:03:21,330 --> 01:03:26,610Dalvik issue. I mean, thepodcast industrial complex fell97501:03:26,610 --> 01:03:32,220so flat on its face, once again,when anybody can just use some97601:03:32,250 --> 01:03:36,600like Samsung use some user agentand it it screwed up all the97701:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,070charts all the rankers itcompletely defrauded advertisers97801:03:41,070 --> 01:03:45,540at some point. I think thiswhole thing is broken. And it97901:03:45,540 --> 01:03:49,170just to me is feels like theonly thing I can see is that98001:03:49,170 --> 01:03:54,330perhaps the John Spurlock seesthis as being some type of open98101:03:54,330 --> 01:03:58,140system that advertisers, someadvertisers or some sponsors may98201:03:58,140 --> 01:04:02,790ultimately use to some degree,but I just don't understand the98301:04:02,790 --> 01:04:04,560why of this project.98401:04:04,620 --> 01:04:09,420This is not these stats that I'mtalking about. And the monthly98501:04:09,420 --> 01:04:13,410stats from John these are notdownload stats, these are these98601:04:13,410 --> 01:04:14,610are feed stats,98701:04:14,940 --> 01:04:17,370but it's all part of the samething to me. No98801:04:17,400 --> 01:04:22,350Well, yeah, but that's disagreebecause because the the feed98901:04:22,350 --> 01:04:25,860stats the download stats getinto all the achiness and the99001:04:25,860 --> 01:04:30,360yuckiness of of advertising andin and reach and99101:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,020we agree on that but um, but allthis other stuff, I'm just like,99201:04:34,980 --> 01:04:35,610Okay,99301:04:36,090 --> 01:04:40,260let's see the so when I sayhealth I mean like we're talking99401:04:40,260 --> 01:04:47,130about capture I don't you know,we don't want one behemoth99501:04:47,130 --> 01:04:51,300company a hosting company toessentially capture the entire99601:04:51,630 --> 01:04:55,770you know, suck all of thepodcasting into itself and so99701:04:55,770 --> 01:04:58,080they can they then begin todictate term okay.99801:04:59,490 --> 01:05:04,290God So, a and I'm not fighting Ilove you, you know that right?99901:05:04,290 --> 01:05:07,530I'm just this. This is highlyinteresting to me because I see100001:05:07,530 --> 01:05:10,470all the energy that's going in,I want to figure out, what can I100101:05:10,470 --> 01:05:15,090do with this energy? Is ituseful? So if what's the trip100201:05:15,090 --> 01:05:18,030wire when what you just said,Okay, someone's sucking all the100301:05:18,030 --> 01:05:20,910energy out of the room there'ssomehow they're they're100401:05:20,910 --> 01:05:24,360garnering too much power. Whatis the trip wire? And what is100501:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,760the resolution? What is theaction we need to take?100601:05:27,210 --> 01:05:31,290Then that's when we that's whenwe trigger the this top secret100701:05:31,290 --> 01:05:31,890weapon. Okay,100801:05:31,890 --> 01:05:37,140so I think just as I thoughtit's useless exercise. You have100901:05:37,140 --> 01:05:39,900no, you have no answer for myquestions. Dave Jones, I want101001:05:39,900 --> 01:05:42,390you to enjoy, I want you toenjoy doing what you do. I101101:05:42,390 --> 01:05:45,210really do. I just I don't knowif I'm supposed to be paying101201:05:45,210 --> 01:05:48,360attention or not. I don't Idon't know. It's hard because101301:05:48,390 --> 01:05:51,900just like, Okay, I haveboundless energy. I don't have101401:05:51,900 --> 01:05:54,900cross app comments, but I knowexactly which hosting company is101501:05:54,900 --> 01:05:56,520doing well, as101601:05:57,690 --> 01:06:00,660well. But okay. All right. Letme let me take that. Let me let101701:06:00,660 --> 01:06:03,540me take that ball and run withit. You know, exactly. Which101801:06:03,570 --> 01:06:07,560which hosting companies aredoing well, well, now. That's101901:06:07,590 --> 01:06:10,890the pitch. No, that's a littlebit of a misnomer to I mean, I'm102001:06:10,890 --> 01:06:13,110sure anchor is losing money. Sothey're not actually doing well.102101:06:13,140 --> 01:06:15,600Good point. Good point. Youcan't look in someone's pocket102201:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,440book for sure.102301:06:16,680 --> 01:06:22,320Yeah. So but but this also tellsyou whether like this gives you102401:06:22,320 --> 01:06:29,340ideas about whether or notcertain about whether Elissa102501:06:29,370 --> 01:06:29,490well102601:06:29,490 --> 01:06:32,160here's here's an example. Here'san excerpt from the chat room.102701:06:32,430 --> 01:06:38,040Ice Cube soup says, I think someinteresting stats would be feed102801:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,000which published its 20th,episode 50th episode at cetera,102901:06:42,180 --> 01:06:45,120feeds, which published anepisode three years after its103001:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,580first published event, fiveyears, etc.103101:06:47,700 --> 01:06:50,100And I'm saying interesting inany way. Thank103201:06:50,100 --> 01:06:53,400you. This is my point. Where isthe interesting data? Where is103301:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,900something that will interest me?103401:06:57,690 --> 01:07:01,800Let me let me say that but youimagine that we did this, okay.103501:07:01,830 --> 01:07:06,270Imagine, imagine that I broughtthese stats and instead, instead103601:07:06,270 --> 01:07:10,320of the mundane stats that I gaveyou a while ago, if instead what103701:07:10,320 --> 01:07:16,770I what I what I reported wasthat. Okay. 366,849 feeds were103801:07:17,280 --> 01:07:23,760published a new episode inNovember, and 50% of those were103901:07:24,120 --> 01:07:29,280new feeds created on Anchor.Yeah, all of the sudden, you're104001:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,510like, No, okay, way to say, Oh,you'd be the proper response to104101:07:33,510 --> 01:07:38,340that would be there, issomething majorly wrong within104201:07:38,340 --> 01:07:39,120podcasting.104301:07:39,810 --> 01:07:43,710I don't know. Why would he bewrong? Why would something be104401:07:43,710 --> 01:07:47,100wrong? What is wrong? They mean,I don't understand this. This is104501:07:47,100 --> 01:07:48,540exactly what I don't understand.104601:07:48,930 --> 01:07:52,680But what would be wrong would beyou would be right to conclude104701:07:53,130 --> 01:07:58,440that, that very few people areactually signing up for new104801:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,590podcast, and most of them arejust dicking around on Anchor,104901:08:01,620 --> 01:08:05,010but it's not a bad thing. Yeah,it would be a bad thing. Why?105001:08:05,220 --> 01:08:07,470Why is that? Why is it a badthing?105101:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,800Because it would be hard to goout and convince people to105201:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,910implement new namespacefeatures. If they if the hosting105301:08:14,910 --> 01:08:17,100companies are actually lookingat their books and being like,105401:08:17,130 --> 01:08:21,420Oh, my God, we can't pay thebills. Like that. To me. That's105501:08:21,420 --> 01:08:22,860what I mean by health like,105601:08:23,010 --> 01:08:27,630right. But if you if you have anindustry, where you have a huge105701:08:27,690 --> 01:08:32,340VC funded player who was givingaway free stuff, your industry105801:08:32,340 --> 01:08:33,930may be in trouble anyway.105901:08:34,710 --> 01:08:37,110Right, but I don't I don't knowhow much trouble there.106001:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,970Okay. You should write up areport. And you should, I think106101:08:44,970 --> 01:08:48,150you should do a sub stack. Yeah,I think it's a good idea to do a106201:08:48,150 --> 01:08:50,430sub stack. And here's this.Here's the health of the106301:08:50,430 --> 01:08:56,850industry. I think it would be ahit. I do. Don't done. I'm106401:08:56,850 --> 01:09:04,590telling you. Damn. Listen,Daniel J. Daniel J. Lewis, point106501:09:04,590 --> 01:09:07,410of personal privilege is goingto do this now that I've given106601:09:07,410 --> 01:09:11,160this idea. health of the podcastindustry.106701:09:12,510 --> 01:09:14,700It'll be his next episode. Yeah.106801:09:16,590 --> 01:09:21,480If you're loving those stats,I'm happy. I just I don't know.106901:09:21,480 --> 01:09:23,700I'm just going I don'tunderstand. I wouldn't107001:09:23,700 --> 01:09:26,220say I loved him. It was actuallypainfully boring.107101:09:29,910 --> 01:09:34,170To the show database was thereand it needs to be mined. I get107201:09:34,170 --> 01:09:37,410it. I totally understand. Iunderstand that. I understand.107301:09:38,790 --> 01:09:43,350Oh, man. There's some new apppopped up which I didn't quite107401:09:43,350 --> 01:09:45,450understand. castled you take alook at this.107501:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,690had not looked at it yet. No.Castle107601:09:48,690 --> 01:09:52,050is an interactive podcast playerfor people who want to go beyond107701:09:52,050 --> 01:09:55,950listening. Transcribe save,share and search podcast content107801:09:55,950 --> 01:09:59,100all from one simple platform.Castle's goal is to bring107901:09:59,100 --> 01:10:02,790scripts is Bring the next levelof collaboration and learning to108001:10:02,790 --> 01:10:05,130the podcast world. Hey Castle,guys, why don't you do some108101:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,730cross app comments if that'syour goal? Oh,108201:10:08,730 --> 01:10:12,270yeah, totally. So sure like Isaid Greenfield project get you108301:10:12,270 --> 01:10:15,480could make it right in from thebeginning, right? Perfect. Yeah,108401:10:15,480 --> 01:10:16,200good time to do it.108501:10:19,170 --> 01:10:20,850Oh, man, oh, man. Oh, man.108601:10:21,180 --> 01:10:25,260Oh, let me let me just let mejust say that I've been Somebody108701:10:25,290 --> 01:10:30,690contacted me through email anddid a sort of an in depth108801:10:30,720 --> 01:10:38,730analysis on the index to findduplicates. Oh, and what he108901:10:38,730 --> 01:10:42,870found what he sent me though hismethodology and everything which109001:10:42,870 --> 01:10:46,710is sound is good. It's a goodit's a good way to do it. He109101:10:46,710 --> 01:10:49,020found 50,000 duplicates index.109201:10:49,050 --> 01:10:53,520Well, wait a minute. That'sThat's what 1% Yeah, that's 1%109301:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,860that's pretty. That's prettygood, man. Congratulations. I109401:10:55,860 --> 01:10:57,240feel good about this shirt.109501:10:57,240 --> 01:11:02,040Holy crap. A virtual Well, holdon109601:11:07,740 --> 01:11:10,560I need to have this thing alittle more. A little more109701:11:10,560 --> 01:11:19,200standby. 1% 1% 1% isgratulations. Man, that's really109801:11:19,200 --> 01:11:25,080good. That is really incrediblygood. Do we? How about the109901:11:25,620 --> 01:11:27,570Slurpee, the slipper Slurpee110001:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,110that was still going we'reclosing in where you'd like110101:11:31,530 --> 01:11:36,42050,000 feeds of music. I thinkyou said or posted 44,000?110201:11:36,420 --> 01:11:39,060Close? That's not bad. Yeah,that's a good start.110301:11:39,540 --> 01:11:44,430And you know, dystopia unleashedtheir, their, their value block110401:11:44,430 --> 01:11:49,800integration in their, in their?Their medium tags. So we got to110501:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,450get them on the show. Have110601:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,930you ever seen anything show upfrom them on in the index any110701:11:54,930 --> 01:11:55,710feeds with?110801:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,030I'm gonna look for I'm gonna getsome. I'm gonna bring some stats110901:12:00,060 --> 01:12:00,540next week.111001:12:01,890 --> 01:12:08,730These are stats, I'm veryinterested in day. Oh, goodness,111101:12:08,790 --> 01:12:13,260no, thanks. Yeah, definitely,let's this is value for value,111201:12:13,260 --> 01:12:16,680by the way. And if you wouldlike this to continue, not just111301:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,100this banter, but the wholeproject, which seems to kind of111401:12:20,100 --> 01:12:23,370be centered around podcasts.index.org. Most of the people111501:12:23,370 --> 01:12:26,280who use it like to support it,you never want it to go away.111601:12:26,490 --> 01:12:28,650It's to say it's the other sideof the conversation about111701:12:28,650 --> 01:12:32,100regular payments that you wantto keep handing off to a podcast111801:12:32,100 --> 01:12:35,310or sees the value block. It's itall makes total sense. This is111901:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,520and I like I love that what yousaid earlier that, you know,112001:12:38,550 --> 01:12:41,250it's all value for value. Andthere's many different ways we112101:12:41,250 --> 01:12:45,660can expand that and I completelyagree. And so one of that is112201:12:45,690 --> 01:12:49,770recurring donations, whichpeople do with us right now by112301:12:49,830 --> 01:12:53,460by force, it has to be throughPayPal with the Fiat fun112401:12:53,460 --> 01:12:56,760coupons, but we also get lots ofboosted grants. And if you want112501:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,360to support us go to podcastindex.org There is an on chain112601:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,830QR code there or at least a linkto one that you can can hit if112701:13:04,830 --> 01:13:09,000you which no one does. Or youcan just use the power button.112801:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,420And of course get a modernpodcast at podcast new podcast112901:13:12,420 --> 01:13:17,250apps.com and boost us boost awayso let's we who do we have to113001:13:17,250 --> 01:13:21,870thank today. Oh, we get we getwe get? We have? This is from113101:13:22,590 --> 01:13:24,420like two weeks since we wereoff.113201:13:24,450 --> 01:13:32,070Yeah. We've got coming in rightoff the top rss.com The boys in113301:13:32,220 --> 01:13:37,950the boys and gold they're $1,500Wow.113401:13:38,430 --> 01:13:41,490Shot Caller 20 blades on am113501:13:41,490 --> 01:13:44,610Paul. That's what I'm talkingthat's some value for value,113601:13:44,610 --> 01:13:46,590right is that that's the thing.It's the biggest baller we've113701:13:46,590 --> 01:13:47,460ever received.113801:13:48,420 --> 01:13:53,100We had one bigger baller thanthat. And that was the anonymous113901:13:53,100 --> 01:13:54,420cash donation in the pod.114001:13:54,660 --> 01:14:01,080Yes. That's right. Yeah. Thatwas pretty cool. I was Sir114101:14:01,080 --> 01:14:01,920omnibus wasn't it?114201:14:02,430 --> 01:14:08,190I think that's I think that'sthe speculation. Yes. Ben, Ben114301:14:08,190 --> 01:14:12,120in Alberta said to Dave and Adamand everyone who has worked on114401:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,570the mission of the podcast indexin 2022. Thank you for all your114501:14:15,570 --> 01:14:19,200time and and talents this year.Because Because of you all114601:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,050podcasting is still open andfree Happy Holidays and Happy114701:14:22,050 --> 01:14:24,000New Year from the team@rss.com114801:14:24,360 --> 01:14:30,240Thank you guys so much. I got tohit this 40 podcast. Thank you,114901:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,450thank you. Thank you. Thank you.That is that's our month. That's115001:14:33,450 --> 01:14:34,560a month right there.115101:14:35,190 --> 01:14:35,970Straight up.115201:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,440Thank you. Thank you.115301:14:37,920 --> 01:14:43,200We also had Marco coming in with500 again this thank you I'm115401:14:43,200 --> 01:14:43,530gonna give115501:14:43,530 --> 01:14:48,480him a shot call off 20 hisblades only him Paula115601:14:48,480 --> 01:14:51,120thank you very much Mark. Ihighly appreciate and of course115701:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,520for him also value for value.This is what you're seeing.115801:14:53,670 --> 01:14:57,780These are people who have abusiness. And so I don't mind if115901:14:57,780 --> 01:14:59,940you if you placate them withyour stats116001:15:00,719 --> 01:15:03,629Now now that we have now Iunderstand116101:15:03,630 --> 01:15:07,080why you do this. Okay, I got it.Yes it works good. Good work116201:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,250Dave more more hosting companystats. I think it's working.116301:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,300It's it we'll do it we'll do afeature every116401:15:15,300 --> 01:15:15,990week. I love it.116501:15:16,530 --> 01:15:23,010I love it. The the live item tagand that would be a really good116601:15:23,010 --> 01:15:28,110fit for overcast I think itmakes a lot of sense. I lit we116701:15:28,110 --> 01:15:33,600get Buzzsprout coming in with$500 Wow, this116801:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,620is Blake on I am Paula116901:15:37,650 --> 01:15:41,550day if we shall have some somebacon with our girl.117001:15:44,430 --> 01:15:48,750I mean, like we should take twoweeks off more often. This is117101:15:48,750 --> 01:15:49,380the way you do.117201:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,590All right. I was making moneywhile we sleep everybody.117301:15:52,770 --> 01:15:58,080This fountain coming in with$200 Thank you, Oscar.117401:15:58,860 --> 01:16:01,170Thank you guys. Thank you somuch. It's so cool.117501:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,240Yes, and we thank Tom and Kevinin the in the guys over there117601:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,800Buzzsprout to very much117701:16:07,889 --> 01:16:11,129Joe. I actually hit the liveboosted grams that came in while117801:16:11,129 --> 01:16:11,939we were yakking.117901:16:12,480 --> 01:16:15,390Let me let me do these two otherpapers. We Oh, sure. Sure. Sure.118001:16:15,570 --> 01:16:22,710We got two more. Emilio KondoMolina sent us $20 A pound, no118101:16:22,710 --> 01:16:29,160note on that. And basil Philipsent us actually a new automatic118201:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,020payment subscription for $25 amonth.118301:16:31,650 --> 01:16:36,510Thank you very much. Especiallythose those monthlies, man, it118401:16:36,510 --> 01:16:37,500makes a big difference.118501:16:37,530 --> 01:16:40,800Well, we had we had a couple of20 fives cancel cancel on the118601:16:40,800 --> 01:16:40,980Pay118701:16:40,980 --> 01:16:42,030Pal. Yeah, the Pay Pal.118801:16:42,570 --> 01:16:45,450Yeah. Hey, pal, again. Yes. Allright, hit it.118901:16:46,830 --> 01:16:53,940Well, coming in 22 minutes ago97,531 SATs from chimp who says119001:16:54,390 --> 01:16:57,000love to have the duo back inaction? Any updates on the119101:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,670hackathon game Jennifer workingher magic?119201:17:00,870 --> 01:17:04,350We have we have discussed andmandate Jennifer had discussed119301:17:04,350 --> 01:17:08,550the hackathon. I think thingsjust get too busy. But maybe the119401:17:08,550 --> 01:17:11,490new year I'll be picking up inJanuary now. Okay. And yeah, I119501:17:11,490 --> 01:17:13,110think we're gonna pick it upJanuary Jim119601:17:13,110 --> 01:17:22,440says can I get a go podcastpodcast? 33,333 from Eric p p119701:17:22,440 --> 01:17:25,740says welcome back. Thank you seeBrooklyn, one 112 Back to119801:17:25,740 --> 01:17:30,810businesses the booster gram12345 sets. Tone record was row119901:17:30,810 --> 01:17:34,950ducks 2222 pod verse alert hitfor live so sending some welcome120001:17:34,950 --> 01:17:40,740back sets. There you go. Itworks. Blueberry 17,766 Big120101:17:40,740 --> 01:17:46,080Patriot boost. Live is lit andall that shit. We got chip cost120201:17:46,080 --> 01:17:50,670peatland noise that's now I'm inI'm looking at my helipad Nam120301:17:50,670 --> 01:17:53,910into now. That's that's what wethat's what we had for the live120401:17:53,910 --> 01:17:56,250boosts for now. Thank you. Thankyou very much.120501:17:57,030 --> 01:18:01,380Okay. You know, I'm sending outa lot of a lot of piping120601:18:01,380 --> 01:18:04,410authorization headers poppingdoc cloud this is this is good.120701:18:04,650 --> 01:18:06,930A lot of we're seeing a lot ofadoption last couple of weeks.120801:18:07,230 --> 01:18:11,820Good. We got some booster gramsfrom last two weeks we have120901:18:11,820 --> 01:18:15,600Mitch down a 10,000 SATs nonote. Thank you, Mitch.121001:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,900Appreciate that. Oscar merryalso known as Mary asked her121101:18:18,900 --> 01:18:22,47010,000 SAS through fountain adsays to add any fountain user to121201:18:22,470 --> 01:18:25,650the split. You can find theirvalue block info with the custom121301:18:25,650 --> 01:18:29,490key custom value by clicking onthe bolt on their Web Profile121401:18:29,490 --> 01:18:34,050link and it gives the URL httpscolon slash slash fountain dot121501:18:34,050 --> 01:18:37,320him but data.fm/marry Oscar121601:18:37,530 --> 01:18:44,610and big, big props to Steven B'ssovereign feeds Matt, he's this.121701:18:44,790 --> 01:18:48,270I love this program. So he'smade it so that if you want to121801:18:48,270 --> 01:18:52,170add something to the valueblock, and you do add new split,121901:18:52,350 --> 01:18:57,180you can also use lb fountain orthe V four V app to get the122001:18:57,180 --> 01:19:02,760credentials just by using thethe lightning the lightning122101:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,580address and it resolves it andpre populates the fields. I122201:19:05,580 --> 01:19:06,780mean, it's beautiful.122301:19:07,019 --> 01:19:14,969That's cool. And that's so nice.Yeah, yep. 2222 from John TMS.122401:19:15,269 --> 01:19:22,139No note. Thanks jaunty. WDS fromBlue ours from RSS blue. sent us122501:19:22,139 --> 01:19:25,349through fountain regardingepisode 111 discussion on the122601:19:25,349 --> 01:19:30,269formal definition of a schmuck.Larry David put it best. There122701:19:30,269 --> 01:19:33,779are only two types of peoplepoor schmucks and rich pricks122801:19:33,809 --> 01:19:35,039there's no one in between.122901:19:37,050 --> 01:19:38,760I'm down with that. That makes Ilike123001:19:38,760 --> 01:19:43,590it. Yes. Right on Macintosh thenis 100 SAS which is low but but123101:19:43,590 --> 01:19:46,290he says he had a good note herebalance of Satoshi sounds just123201:19:46,290 --> 01:19:49,560like the type of thing I wasgoing to code and never get123301:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,440around to doing so glad someoneis handling this. I'll check it123401:19:52,440 --> 01:19:52,710out.123501:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,370Oh man, that program has beenaround for a while and has it's123601:19:56,370 --> 01:19:57,840a lot of it's bulletproof.123701:19:58,410 --> 01:19:59,250Is a Swiss army123801:19:59,250 --> 01:20:02,220knife. Yeah. as it is very,very, very handy.123901:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,550Ralph he sent us 500 says it's aloss of love rohlfing Daylin124001:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,960send us 6500 SATs they found andhe says, I don't have the dogs124101:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,760handy but Pleroma and it'sforks, a coma and rebased which124201:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,490are competing activity posts.servers with Mastodon already124301:20:20,490 --> 01:20:23,580can be configured as an identityprovider for other services.124401:20:23,760 --> 01:20:29,580Futures now, guys, okay, cool.Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.124501:20:29,580 --> 01:20:34,560Yeah. Identity. Yeah, federatedidentity. I like it. George124601:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,550Orwell send us a row sticks 1111through fountain nice says have124701:20:38,550 --> 01:20:44,310you guys already looked into?noster124801:20:44,820 --> 01:20:48,990and this just pop up? Where didI see this? noster business?124901:20:49,170 --> 01:20:57,000Yeah. noster GG mentioned it.And Alex looked into it. Is this125001:20:58,380 --> 01:21:01,860telegram bot? Is that whatnoster? Is? Is noster a bot?125101:21:02,460 --> 01:21:07,020I don't know. I have not lookedinto it long enough to125201:21:07,020 --> 01:21:12,450understand what it is or whatit's about. I don't know. But I125301:21:12,450 --> 01:21:12,780have no125401:21:12,780 --> 01:21:15,480start. And Oster is I'm justreading from the GitHub, the125501:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,870simplest open protocol that isable to create a censorship125601:21:18,870 --> 01:21:26,700resistant global social networkonce and for all. And then it125701:21:26,700 --> 01:21:32,190says join the telegram group.Okay. That makes sense. Yeah,125801:21:32,190 --> 01:21:34,560you know what? It's like, oh,there's all this stuff out125901:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,490there. And I'm gonna stick fastto cross out comments on126001:21:38,490 --> 01:21:41,430activity pub until until itdoesn't happen then I'm just126101:21:41,430 --> 01:21:44,370going to gonna go with any windthat blows my way.126201:21:45,059 --> 01:21:47,849I think Alex was concerned aboutit, because he thinks a system126301:21:47,849 --> 01:21:51,749that let it enabling censorshipin some way. I don't know. I'll126401:21:51,749 --> 01:21:52,529have to ask him,126501:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,320but he's the guy to ask forsure. Yeah, yeah.126601:21:55,589 --> 01:21:58,679But I don't know. I mean, Idon't want to please don't take126701:21:58,679 --> 01:22:03,449that as gospel because I don'tknow. Mere Mortals podcast 3333126801:22:03,449 --> 01:22:06,749through fountain. Kira, and ourbuddy over there streaming sets126901:22:06,749 --> 01:22:10,319is a dopamine drip more than adopamine hit. It still feels127001:22:10,319 --> 01:22:13,799crazy, like crazy good drugs,but I'm not going to sell my127101:22:13,799 --> 01:22:17,219imaginary children to get moremostly because I'm rich and SATs127201:22:17,219 --> 01:22:20,159afterwards and don't need Idon't need to boy127301:22:22,260 --> 01:22:24,360Okay, boy oh, boy.127401:22:25,260 --> 01:22:28,110Oh, our buddy Franco Celeriodeveloper of the cast ematic127501:22:28,110 --> 01:22:32,760app. Hello, send us a boost of1000 Sassy says debugging new127601:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,850code or report failed LightningNetwork transactions to the user127701:22:35,910 --> 01:22:37,950disregard this message no I'mnot going to disrupt127801:22:37,980 --> 01:22:41,250oh no no boost Thank you verymuch Franco127901:22:41,310 --> 01:22:45,210Jean been sent us elite boost1337 through cast ematic he says128001:22:45,210 --> 01:22:47,700I hope Buzzsprout takes youridea on Oh authoring the128101:22:47,700 --> 01:22:55,020fediverse Me to floydian slips5000 SATs through curio caster128201:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,900he says I don't want to I don'talways remember to boost but128301:22:57,900 --> 01:23:01,980when I do it's to bowl afterbowl. But that you boosted does128401:23:02,340 --> 01:23:02,490it128501:23:02,490 --> 01:23:05,070really is a little low for apromo boost.128601:23:07,770 --> 01:23:11,130My Dale our buddy over blueberrythe Senior Vice President of128701:23:11,130 --> 01:23:16,170podcasting 2.0 relations. Hesent us a first album boost the128801:23:16,170 --> 01:23:17,220pod verse for 1000s128901:23:17,910 --> 01:23:21,120in the in the chat room breakingnews pod save Dave Jones129001:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,180condemns noster for censorshipNow that's how you write a129101:23:24,180 --> 01:23:27,600headline that's how you that'show you129201:23:28,349 --> 01:23:35,039I'm gonna hear about that 7777Ooh, from Steve welcome striper129301:23:35,039 --> 01:23:38,549boost works striper boostthrough cast thematically says129401:23:38,609 --> 01:23:44,099regarding Christian rock metalbands see skillet. S k i l l e t129501:23:44,099 --> 01:23:44,699skillet129601:23:44,820 --> 01:23:46,440I don't do you remember skill it129701:23:46,650 --> 01:23:47,790never heard a skill it?129801:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,200I don't think I've ever heard ofme.129901:23:49,440 --> 01:23:53,160Never heard it skill. Well, Ihave a feeling we're about to130001:23:53,160 --> 01:23:53,520hear some130101:23:53,580 --> 01:23:56,430i Well yeah. Are you kidding me?I mean, I would never give up an130201:23:56,430 --> 01:23:58,770opportunity to play a littleskillet for you all to see130301:23:58,770 --> 01:24:02,490skillet psycho in my head. Thatsounds like a good little heavy.130401:24:02,790 --> 01:24:04,800Oh yeah. Oh,130501:24:04,800 --> 01:24:22,620yeah. You ready? To stop singingthat's not good. It was all fine130601:24:22,620 --> 01:24:25,890until I started singing. I likedthe ear daggers not to sing130701:24:26,340 --> 01:24:32,550dynamite. 100,000 100,000 SATs.Oh, wow. Okay, Linkin Park rules130801:24:32,550 --> 01:24:37,830send us 100,000 SATs through podverse. Hey, Adam and Dave. Have130901:24:37,830 --> 01:24:41,160you checked out what Matt Odellhas done with guys are fun for131001:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,700his V Furby podcast at adultdispatch. He has his node131101:24:44,700 --> 01:24:47,760connected to the campaign. Sothe public can see all the131201:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,060boosts and says streamed in realtime with a leaderboard. Oh,131301:24:51,060 --> 01:24:52,770yes, we need to talk polls.131401:24:54,810 --> 01:25:00,600Polls boost boost boost. I thinkthat the poll, I think Go went131501:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,050to that site I saw theannouncement but I didn't quite131601:25:04,050 --> 01:25:07,410get it but now if it's if it'sbasically just displaying his131701:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,170Lee's leaderboards and stuff iscool what was it called again131801:25:10,170 --> 01:25:11,400geyser what was it called131901:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,000geyser dot fund slash projectslash Citadel132001:25:16,020 --> 01:25:18,000hmm geyser dot fund132101:25:21,360 --> 01:25:25,410I feel like I felt like is itwas missed here that Linkin Park132201:25:25,620 --> 01:25:32,310rules and as 100,000 says itfeels like a baller is not a132301:25:32,310 --> 01:25:32,850baller132401:25:33,810 --> 01:25:44,430I mean compared to $500 This isa Bala you should play on Bala132501:25:44,430 --> 01:25:49,260we see what he's doing here.Okay, so it shows right132601:25:49,290 --> 01:25:53,730interesting play a part in worldchanging ideas by contributing132701:25:53,730 --> 01:25:57,780to them and launching them ongeyser. Okay, I see the SAT132801:25:57,780 --> 01:25:58,560streaming in132901:26:00,630 --> 01:26:01,980I don't know what guys are itkind of133001:26:01,980 --> 01:26:08,130looks like a front facinghelipad. Yeah. Which by the way133101:26:08,130 --> 01:26:11,550I want people to know is stillthe best way to get the most133201:26:11,550 --> 01:26:13,260accurate export from your node.133301:26:13,830 --> 01:26:20,370I mean, just just to be clear,hella pad has an API. Oh, yeah.133401:26:20,370 --> 01:26:23,190query it if you want to getstats and display them on a on a133501:26:23,190 --> 01:26:24,570public website.133601:26:24,840 --> 01:26:30,570Yeah. And, and yeah, and I loveSaturn and, and contracts, but133701:26:30,570 --> 01:26:33,180they don't always catcheverything. You know, there's133801:26:33,180 --> 01:26:36,720still work in progress. It'sbeta. It's beta says it's all133901:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,330beta. Hello, or makes any ofthis show works. Hello.134001:26:39,390 --> 01:26:42,780That's right. Yeah. It always italways makes me so it always134101:26:43,110 --> 01:26:46,440gives me lots of encouragementwhen I see that. Like that.134201:26:46,530 --> 01:26:52,350Lightning Labs is releasing.Fixed lnd they d o v 15.1 Dash134301:26:52,350 --> 01:26:53,430beta, like134401:26:54,900 --> 01:26:58,950right now. And I'm updatingalways at midnight, you know,134501:26:58,950 --> 01:27:02,820like here we go. Dave. You know,look,134601:27:02,850 --> 01:27:06,540I don't look I just wake up inthe morning and see the see the134701:27:06,570 --> 01:27:09,840butt clenching are stillworking. Yes. Good. Good. Good.134801:27:10,410 --> 01:27:13,530Oh, Mike Dell back again. 5000SAS pod verse. He says Happy134901:27:13,530 --> 01:27:15,900turkey day. Go podcasting. Oh,boy.135001:27:15,930 --> 01:27:17,340Thank you. Podcast.135101:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,320Steve Wilkinson back againthrough cast. Manik he says135201:27:22,320 --> 01:27:26,040thanks for all you do forpodcasting. 33 333 Nice. Thank135301:27:26,040 --> 01:27:26,610you, Steve.135401:27:26,640 --> 01:27:31,980Thank you, Steve. Gene Everett25,000. SAS he says boost boost.135501:27:32,130 --> 01:27:35,550By the way I'm back on Twitter,so follow me and no agenda and135601:27:35,550 --> 01:27:37,680podcasting. 2.0 fam. Oh, we135701:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,790got unbanned huh?135801:27:39,840 --> 01:27:48,090Gene, Gene every 33 Okay, cool.As he says a follow up booths of135901:27:48,090 --> 01:27:52,2603333 to correct a typo in theprevious booths. He says I mean,136001:27:52,290 --> 01:27:58,470podcasting. 2.0 not 2.9 No,gotcha. Nomad and nomadic coder136101:27:58,950 --> 01:28:02,850sent a boost of 1555 He saysearlier this year, you played136201:28:02,850 --> 01:28:05,550clips with James MontgomeryBoice. In this week, you136301:28:05,550 --> 01:28:09,000mentioned Alvin Plantinga. Theseare names I would never have136401:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,300imagined out here on an Adamcurry podcast. Well,136501:28:12,870 --> 01:28:16,020well, you never know. It's Adamcurry, Dave Jones joint so136601:28:16,020 --> 01:28:18,300that's why you heard it. Youstill wouldn't hear that from136701:28:18,300 --> 01:28:21,690me. You're the pod sage brother.136801:28:22,500 --> 01:28:28,860Roy scheinfeld. Hello. Hello,Roy. 54321 through breeze and he136901:28:28,860 --> 01:28:30,420says I love Adam and Dave.137001:28:31,170 --> 01:28:32,670We love you too.137101:28:33,060 --> 01:28:33,810We love you too.137201:28:34,170 --> 01:28:38,490In a world where Roy loves Adamand Dave and Adam and Dave love137301:28:38,490 --> 01:28:48,150Roy back. Showers and bros bro.What do you say, bro? Hugs bro137401:28:48,150 --> 01:28:53,280hugs. We gotta get our ass overto Israel, that's for sure.137501:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,830Yeah, we gotta go hang with Roy.He's a party animal.137601:28:56,220 --> 01:28:57,300That's a great trail. He137701:28:57,300 --> 01:29:00,630calls he calls me like oh, I hadsaid Adam I had such a I was137801:29:00,630 --> 01:29:03,420partying all night. On Sunday.Sounds like Arnold137901:29:03,420 --> 01:29:03,960Schwarzenegger138001:29:04,320 --> 01:29:05,190was just like Roy138101:29:08,130 --> 01:29:09,180I was partying138201:29:10,200 --> 01:29:16,290of London in the hive Dao118,596 knots138301:29:18,780 --> 01:29:22,14020 blades on I am Paula thankyou.138401:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,920He says in Israel if someone hascrooked teeth as I do, the138501:29:25,920 --> 01:29:33,810Hebrew expression is shunned.I'm anglais literally English I138601:29:33,810 --> 01:29:35,580really should fix my teeth too.138701:29:35,850 --> 01:29:39,090Well, I got a great address foryou and before this is all over138801:29:39,090 --> 01:29:41,250he'll be accepting bitcoin FYI.138901:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,780QR code for you go under That'sright.139001:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,120Good to go. Mr. Curry.139101:29:49,530 --> 01:29:53,700100,000 SATs from Bhumi overdaleBe nice. Oh,139201:29:54,180 --> 01:29:55,770no, I gotta hit a ball everysingle139301:29:56,219 --> 01:30:02,549play. Ball is my fault. Thepodcast index app. Oh, that's139401:30:02,549 --> 01:30:04,919us. That's the website and hesays, oh, cool catching up with139501:30:04,919 --> 01:30:08,009some of the past episodes afterthe adopting Bitcoin Conference.139601:30:08,159 --> 01:30:09,749Cheers from El Salvador.139701:30:10,110 --> 01:30:14,220Wow, he was no Salvador. Nice.So I got some reports about El139801:30:14,220 --> 01:30:17,730Salvador. From various people inthe media.139901:30:17,850 --> 01:30:22,560If you're is if this is the AlexTrebek pronunciation. It's El140001:30:22,560 --> 01:30:23,970Salvador, El Salvador.140101:30:25,440 --> 01:30:28,800Well, there's a lot of cinemaabout El Salvador. And let me140201:30:28,800 --> 01:30:34,500tell you what the finance peoplesay. Okay. It is definitely it's140301:30:34,500 --> 01:30:38,190definitely true that it is, youknow, that everything is alive140401:30:38,190 --> 01:30:42,180and reviving. And the Bitcoinstory has something to do with140501:30:42,180 --> 01:30:45,900that. But to think that everyoneaccepts Bitcoin, it's all hunky140601:30:45,900 --> 01:30:50,130dory and the Chivo, or chivesapp works is not exactly true.140701:30:50,130 --> 01:30:54,660It's all still a little bit asyou would expect, buggy. But140801:30:54,660 --> 01:30:59,700every single every report fromEl Salvador is, is always so140901:30:59,700 --> 01:31:04,770incredibly positive that I'mlike, so it's definitely doing141001:31:04,770 --> 01:31:08,040well, but it's not quite upthere with what you might141101:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,110expect. That's, that's thereport. That's the report I'm141201:31:10,110 --> 01:31:10,530getting.141301:31:11,130 --> 01:31:14,100I mean, financially, they werein such bad shape. You gotta141401:31:14,100 --> 01:31:16,200imagine it's just going to takea long time to dig out of that141501:31:16,200 --> 01:31:16,620hole,141601:31:16,740 --> 01:31:19,950then, which is just the Bitcoinbeach and the infrastructure,141701:31:19,950 --> 01:31:22,650you know, it's like, yeah, it'sgetting there for sure. Because,141801:31:22,650 --> 01:31:27,120you know, it's it's it's legal,legal currency. But very, very141901:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,180few people are using it,honestly, tourists are using it,142001:31:30,660 --> 01:31:31,200which is good142101:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,190time. There's a anytime there'sa there's too much government142201:31:35,190 --> 01:31:38,730control, and too much governmentinterference in an economy.142301:31:39,090 --> 01:31:44,340There always is a thriving blackmarket. So the because the black142401:31:44,340 --> 01:31:47,460market becomes the black marketis actually the real market,142501:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,900because the the official marketceases to function correctly. So142601:31:51,930 --> 01:31:55,560you'll never be able to tell thehealth and then economy by the142701:31:55,560 --> 01:32:00,300official government metrics,because that's not the real142801:32:00,300 --> 01:32:01,080market anymore. And142901:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,120why don't you get in there andlet them know what the health is143001:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,880their economy, you can look upthe stats package for it.143101:32:06,210 --> 01:32:09,000I do abroad. wadded up dirt onthe floor.143201:32:11,070 --> 01:32:12,570Are you mad at me about that?143301:32:12,900 --> 01:32:13,950No, no, I143401:32:13,950 --> 01:32:18,150love that you love me isdifferent from being mad at me.143501:32:20,460 --> 01:32:22,740Yes, you can be mad at someoneand love them dearly.143601:32:22,740 --> 01:32:27,810Absolutely. Bumi sent 21,000SATs again and he says podcast143701:32:27,810 --> 01:32:31,440and he says listening to you isso incredibly exciting. And it143801:32:31,440 --> 01:32:34,500is so good to hear others havingsuch productive conversations143901:32:34,500 --> 01:32:37,650and caring about the values thatmake me work on open web stuff.144001:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,580Since ever. Podcasting 2.0brings back a lot of my past144101:32:41,580 --> 01:32:43,140excitement about the early web.144201:32:43,260 --> 01:32:46,710Can I just stop for a moment andjust stop you for a moment as144301:32:46,710 --> 01:32:51,390him I'd like us all to considerthat it was only 80 years ago. I144401:32:51,390 --> 01:32:58,290mean 80 years you know peoplewho are older than 80 Right 80144501:32:58,290 --> 01:33:04,140years ago our boys were outshooting it their boys trying to144601:33:04,140 --> 01:33:10,380kill each other in France youknow, and it's just beautiful to144701:33:10,380 --> 01:33:16,350see you know I really mean thisI love seeing all these144801:33:16,350 --> 01:33:19,860different maybe because I grewup in the Netherlands that I'm144901:33:19,860 --> 01:33:23,790that I'm so aware of reallyrecent history global history145001:33:23,790 --> 01:33:26,850and how pissed off everybody wasthat we'd bomb each other and145101:33:26,850 --> 01:33:30,840kill each other and world wartwo and here we are all excited145201:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,600working together the technologyhas connected us just wanted to145301:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,550take a moment just want to sayit's beautiful.145401:33:36,270 --> 01:33:38,070freedom and openness145501:33:38,099 --> 01:33:38,729yes145601:33:38,849 --> 01:33:42,689yes it created yields dividendsright145701:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,780and let us let us be carefulwith that you know there's a lot145801:33:45,780 --> 01:33:49,830of a holes in the in the in theliberal world order because145901:33:49,830 --> 01:33:53,550they'd like to call it who wantsto divide us based order the146001:33:53,550 --> 01:33:56,850rules based order who wanted tobite us and want to make us mad146101:33:56,850 --> 01:33:59,580at each other and there's noreason because we all get along146201:33:59,580 --> 01:34:02,400and we love each other and we'redoing good stuff we're creative146301:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,510together and so when he says howexcited he is I want to play146401:34:06,510 --> 01:34:13,680that back and say you know we'dlike you knew Germans you're146501:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,880good guys. You are Yes. Andwe're not bad either when the146601:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,400Americans kind of dickish hereand there but we're working146701:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,990everywhere Pretty much yeah,146801:34:25,020 --> 01:34:29,130there's a list Yeah, floaty andslips 2000 SATs there Curio146901:34:29,130 --> 01:34:32,670caster. Thank you and he says,Just found your show. Listen to147001:34:32,670 --> 01:34:35,760the last one and thought of aname for a full access show147101:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,830called ch mod 777.147201:34:40,530 --> 01:34:41,250As funny147301:34:41,340 --> 01:34:47,430like that's a good one. Don'trecord 3333 He says the week147401:34:47,430 --> 01:34:50,250seems bland when you two aren'tholding a board meeting for us147501:34:50,250 --> 01:34:53,400plebs to drop in. Oh no, wait,wait. We will take exception to147601:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,060that. You are not a pleb you area full member of the board.147701:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,330Exactly. Board Member but onyour business card. Put on your147801:35:00,330 --> 01:35:00,960LinkedIn.147901:35:01,440 --> 01:35:05,100That's right. Looking forward tothe episode return and a hefty148001:35:05,100 --> 01:35:08,070set of updates to catch up onspeedy recovery has hopefully148101:35:08,070 --> 01:35:10,920occurred for Adam already by thetime the SATs move over.148201:35:10,980 --> 01:35:13,860Indeed, indeed. And I appreciateall the thoughts, prayers and148301:35:13,860 --> 01:35:16,200everything everybody sent. Itreally helped made a big148401:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,670difference to me. Appreciate it.148501:35:18,210 --> 01:35:20,880And following up with thedelimiter is comma strip blogger148601:35:20,910 --> 01:35:26,460Hello 33 015 through fountainand he says, howdy, David, Adam.148701:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,910So thank you for your servicefor podcasting. 2.0 And let's148801:35:29,910 --> 01:35:33,630hope that 2.0 features willreach mainstream someday and148901:35:33,630 --> 01:35:36,840your audience is invited tolisten to AI dot cooking podcast149001:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,750about artificial intelligence,news and skills with a Z149101:35:40,080 --> 01:35:44,910narrated by posh as far Mr.Fancy Pants Gregory wicking149201:35:44,910 --> 01:35:50,610force from a kid in UK, justenter AI dot cooking in any web149301:35:50,610 --> 01:35:54,270browser or in any podcast playerapp. Yo, CSB.149401:35:55,590 --> 01:35:58,890Thank you very much CSP everysingle, every single podcast he149501:35:58,890 --> 01:36:05,070supports. So cause as harsh asbaby, you bet. Yeah, my mouth is149601:36:05,070 --> 01:36:06,840a little askew now. Like,149701:36:07,440 --> 01:36:08,970we got to wrap this, but149801:36:11,250 --> 01:36:13,920they're kind of getting there.But it's more like the molars149901:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,620now have a different bite. Asyou know what's cool about what150001:36:16,620 --> 01:36:20,880happened though. I put theheadphones on for the first time150101:36:20,880 --> 01:36:26,130on Wednesday, it had been a goodweek. And right away, I noticed150201:36:26,130 --> 01:36:31,710my hearing has improved. Oh, andinteresting. And it's it's all150301:36:31,710 --> 01:36:34,260connected. And also my allergy.This is one of the reasons is150401:36:34,260 --> 01:36:37,410for health reasons. Also,because I had low grade150501:36:37,410 --> 01:36:42,120infection in in the, in my boneof my upper jaw, which was150601:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,970starting to affect my sinuses,which is why for 10 years, I150701:36:44,970 --> 01:36:48,120thought I had allergies, but itwas really when I'm chewing so I150801:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,510go to a restaurant in Austin,and then we'd be having dinner,150901:36:51,690 --> 01:36:54,720and all sudden, I get near mynose and my eyes are running my151001:36:54,720 --> 01:36:59,130nose. And it's just disgusting.I have to go and blow my nose151101:36:59,130 --> 01:37:02,130and all this stuff. And Ithought it's damn Aaron Austin.151201:37:02,580 --> 01:37:05,850But of course it's the eatingthe pressure, it would aggravate151301:37:05,850 --> 01:37:11,520the the inflammation. And sothat probably also since it's151401:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,800all connected, affected myhearing.151501:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,800That's really odd that that isone of those things that you151601:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,160wouldn't that's just one ofthose things you would never151701:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,540like put the two and twotogether.151801:37:24,690 --> 01:37:25,710Of course not.151901:37:27,060 --> 01:37:30,210That's so strange. I mean,that's awesome. Because you I152001:37:30,210 --> 01:37:31,800mean, your hearing is critical.152101:37:32,190 --> 01:37:37,830Well, it's weird because what itis, is I really got I got more152201:37:37,830 --> 01:37:42,390high end back for some reason.Which is it's interesting.152301:37:42,900 --> 01:37:47,850Well, you know this, they're notnot really on the same base.152401:37:47,850 --> 01:37:50,370It's kind of similar. You know,my daughter, my daughter, my152501:37:50,370 --> 01:37:55,980youngest, she had a skininfection in her face. But about152601:37:55,980 --> 01:38:00,480three weeks ago, and so like itwas cellulitis so and they think152701:38:00,510 --> 01:38:04,860oh, she's got braces? Ah yeah,they think they should get an152801:38:04,860 --> 01:38:09,390old sir from her braces. Andsome bacteria get into her152901:38:09,420 --> 01:38:14,760cheek, which ended up in a wentup to her eyes below her. I was153001:38:14,760 --> 01:38:15,900very puffy. I was like,153101:38:16,050 --> 01:38:18,210I was thinking of her becausethat could happen that could153201:38:18,210 --> 01:38:20,220have happened with me the exactsame thing.153301:38:20,610 --> 01:38:23,640Yeah, and this cellulitis is Imean, that's like a big deal.153401:38:23,880 --> 01:38:28,380But she was on some heavy, likeshockingly high antibiotics153501:38:28,380 --> 01:38:33,120like, like, to the point wherethe pharmacist was like, Are you153601:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,570sure this is right? She actuallycalled the hospital really into153701:38:36,690 --> 01:38:38,730Yeah, because she was like thisis a lot.153801:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,790What do you know what it was ajoke. Do you know what it was?153901:38:41,790 --> 01:38:42,300What kind of154001:38:42,990 --> 01:38:48,390antibiotics there was? It wasBactrim and? And augmentin, but154101:38:48,390 --> 01:38:51,720both doses were like extremelyhigh. They were it was like154201:38:51,720 --> 01:38:52,980every four hours.154301:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,890And it was that was the rightone that was the right dosage.154401:38:56,190 --> 01:38:56,820Yeah, they said154501:38:56,820 --> 01:38:59,790that she they said they thoughtthe effective. They said they154601:38:59,790 --> 01:39:04,860thought that basically she wasjust below the threshold of154701:39:04,860 --> 01:39:08,250having to do IV antibiotics andso they should still do oral.154801:39:09,420 --> 01:39:14,040Yeah, it was the colitis is oneof the more dangerous infections154901:39:14,040 --> 01:39:19,530to get. So we were kind offreaked out. Yeah. I know your155001:39:19,530 --> 01:39:21,000mouth infections are no joke.155101:39:21,360 --> 01:39:24,030Now. What's cool now is if Istand on one leg and I155201:39:24,030 --> 01:39:27,060positioned myself a little bitnorth northwest, I can receive155301:39:27,060 --> 01:39:35,31060 meters in the air. Started33.155401:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,620out straight straight from theOmnisphere two you're just155501:39:40,620 --> 01:39:40,950right.155601:39:40,950 --> 01:39:43,620This is incredible. It'sincredible with modern science155701:39:43,620 --> 01:39:45,720and technology can do. It'sreally amazing.155801:39:45,810 --> 01:39:47,700We've got some monthlies. Youwant to run them? Yeah, of155901:39:47,700 --> 01:39:52,620course. Please, please, please.We've got let's see here, pod156001:39:52,620 --> 01:39:58,470verse $50. Thanking bankers, podnews. $50. They dry Thanks,156101:39:58,470 --> 01:40:04,620James. Yeah, Paul air skin$11.14 Michael Gagan $5 Charles156201:40:04,620 --> 01:40:09,660current $5 Christopher Raymer$10 James Sullivan $10 Sean156301:40:09,660 --> 01:40:16,050McCune $20 Cohen glotzbach $5Jordan Dunnville $10 dribs Scott156401:40:16,290 --> 01:40:23,730$15. Lesley Martin $2 MichaelKimmerer $5.33 Aaron Renaud $5156501:40:23,730 --> 01:40:30,330Pedro gone calvess $5 ChadFarrow $20.22 Scott Jalbert $12156601:40:30,570 --> 01:40:35,970Mark Graham $1 New Media $1.David metus. $10. Joseph maraca156701:40:35,970 --> 01:40:43,170$5. 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So you andtoday you're supporting Alex and157301:41:03,990 --> 01:41:06,900Steven crater who worked veryhard on getting pod paying up157401:41:06,900 --> 01:41:10,500and running, you're supportingmultiple apps, I mean, really,157501:41:10,500 --> 01:41:13,980you're supporting a lot of thesystem and that works that way157601:41:14,370 --> 01:41:17,670for this podcast, but it alsoworks supporting your favorite157701:41:17,670 --> 01:41:20,700podcasts and I think the bigtakeaway from the board meeting157801:41:20,700 --> 01:41:24,630today was that it's all valuefor value as long as we respect157901:41:25,530 --> 01:41:27,810respect the splits one way orthe other.158001:41:28,380 --> 01:41:30,690And the teacher by the way,respect the splits158101:41:32,010 --> 01:41:36,420thank you I needed a title Thereyou go There it is. Yeah,158201:41:36,420 --> 01:41:39,600respect the splits All right,well, maybe we should have158301:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,660another maybe another t shirtwhich is like I'll put you my158401:41:42,660 --> 01:41:43,740value block baby158501:41:46,350 --> 01:41:48,120too long and have to wrap aroundthe bat just158601:41:48,120 --> 01:41:51,210a thought just a thoughtanything else for the for the158701:41:51,240 --> 01:41:51,990for the wrap up?158801:41:54,210 --> 01:41:57,930I'm good let's not do it. Let'snot wait. Let's not do this this158901:41:57,930 --> 01:41:59,370long. Between shows again,though. It's159001:42:00,570 --> 01:42:03,870I'm sorry. I didn't know what todo with myself. Getting surgery.159101:42:05,820 --> 01:42:08,700Alright everybody, we will beback here next week folks show159201:42:08,700 --> 01:42:11,550with podcasting. 2.0 Please joinus at the board meeting Dave159301:42:11,550 --> 01:42:12,390we'll see you then brother.159401:42:28,470 --> 01:42:33,030You have been listening topodcasting 2.0 Visit podcast159501:42:33,030 --> 01:42:37,770index.com for more information.Cool.