Episode 111: Pod Molly

100:00:00,780 --> 00:00:07,200podcasting 2.0 for November2022, episode 111 pod Mali.200:00:08,550 --> 00:00:12,540Well, hello, everybody, welcomeonce again to the weekly board300:00:12,540 --> 00:00:16,530meeting of podcasting to pointout that you find out what's400:00:16,530 --> 00:00:18,810going on. It's here that we findout what's going on. It's why500:00:18,810 --> 00:00:21,780it's a board meeting, let's allreport to each other. See what's600:00:21,780 --> 00:00:25,770happening in podcast index.org,the namespace, lots of700:00:25,770 --> 00:00:27,960development going on withpodcasting, and of course,800:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,990everything happening that'sbeing discussed at podcast index900:00:30,990 --> 00:00:33,510dot social. I'm Adam curry herein the heart of the Texas Hill1000:00:33,510 --> 00:00:37,350Country and in Alabama. Ladies,he's the dream of the Macedon1100:00:37,350 --> 00:00:42,030scene. Say hello to my friend onthe other end, Mr. Dave Jones.1200:00:43,409 --> 00:00:45,869I'm just gonna go ahead and takea victory lap on this Mastodon1300:00:45,869 --> 00:00:46,169thing.1400:00:49,770 --> 00:00:53,490Yeah, oh, it's sticking itsticking? You know what? You1500:00:53,490 --> 00:00:57,090know who? Stan a sticky, huh.You know, you're gonna rub it my1600:00:57,090 --> 00:00:57,600fix?1700:00:59,159 --> 00:01:00,389Okay. Yeah.1800:01:01,980 --> 00:01:06,630You know, it's been fascinatingto watch. It's journalists who1900:01:06,630 --> 00:01:10,950are sticking? Yeah, they'resetting up their own instances.2000:01:10,950 --> 00:01:13,380And they're doing all kinds ofyou know, and they're trying to2100:01:13,380 --> 00:01:17,730figure it out. And, and youlisten, you listen to2200:01:18,060 --> 00:01:20,370journalists speaking ondifferent podcasts. And there's,2300:01:20,490 --> 00:01:22,140there's definitely a lot who aresaying, well, it's really2400:01:22,140 --> 00:01:24,960unusable. You have no algorithm,you can trick the algorithm to2500:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,380get everybody to see my stuff.So it's useless. It's useless,2600:01:28,380 --> 00:01:31,920I'll tell you. But then you seethe end. This is very much like2700:01:33,960 --> 00:01:36,540my one of my favorite newspodcast is called the news2800:01:36,540 --> 00:01:39,630agents thing. We've talked aboutit and never heard it. Oh, it's2900:01:39,630 --> 00:01:45,240a bunch of British journalistswho are well known journalists3000:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,330who have interviewed the the bigof the big ones of the earth.3100:01:48,750 --> 00:01:53,070And they kind of discuss thenews. With some, maybe they have3200:01:53,070 --> 00:01:55,740a little snippet of an interviewor some reporting from one of3300:01:55,740 --> 00:01:59,190their people on the scene orwhatever. But it's basically3400:01:59,190 --> 00:02:03,180just a conference call. And theytalk about what's happening from3500:02:03,180 --> 00:02:05,550their perspective. So it's kindof the stuff that you would3600:02:05,550 --> 00:02:08,970never hear about, it's happeningin the newsroom. And it's3700:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,600because it's British politics.It's fun, because, you know, I3800:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,520have a lot to learn thisAmerican politics with British3900:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,450news, I should say. And sothat's kind of the vibe that I'm4000:02:21,450 --> 00:02:25,650getting from these journalistsgroups who are setting up their4100:02:25,650 --> 00:02:30,690own instances to learn from thejournos jet journo dot host, I4200:02:30,690 --> 00:02:36,480think is one and now it's thetypical schmucks who are driving4300:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,710it, you know, all props to JeffJarvis. Jeff Jarvis. Yes, he's4400:02:40,920 --> 00:02:44,190me. He's, he's he is, if yousaid show me a schmuck is Jeff.4500:02:44,220 --> 00:02:47,190Jeff Jarvis. I don't know why Idon't know the man personally.4600:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,590They have been on the show withhim on a panel with him once.4700:02:50,130 --> 00:02:53,700What is the what is thedefinition of a schmuck,4800:02:53,730 --> 00:02:57,360schmuck? Like, what does thatactually mean? Does that have a4900:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,240real like a real defineddefinition that goes back in5000:03:00,240 --> 00:03:00,570time?5100:03:05,310 --> 00:03:09,270Let's see schmuck definition.Here we go. A foolish or5200:03:09,330 --> 00:03:14,370contemptible person is the firstdefinition that pops up.5300:03:15,810 --> 00:03:18,180Like it's Hebrew in origin, likeit's Oh, yeah. Oh,5400:03:18,180 --> 00:03:25,710no. yudishe? I would say, yes,it is. Yes, it is. 100% Do not5500:03:25,710 --> 00:03:28,590be the poor schmuck who runs outof gas and is stranded when a5600:03:28,590 --> 00:03:32,790natural disaster is about tohit. Wow, that's a pretty clear5700:03:32,790 --> 00:03:37,290definition right there. Or beYeah, yeah. Yeah, that's5800:03:37,290 --> 00:03:39,660not what you want to be. Anddon't, don't be the poor schmuck5900:03:39,660 --> 00:03:43,710who runs his own Mastodonserver, with only like 10 gigs6000:03:43,710 --> 00:03:44,370of disk space.6100:03:44,609 --> 00:03:47,819Well, everyone's going to learnand their services. I mean,6200:03:47,819 --> 00:03:51,149we've been running on Mastodonhosts since day one. And, you6300:03:51,149 --> 00:03:54,749know, we I upgraded to biggerservices and searchable because,6400:03:54,779 --> 00:03:59,039you know, of course, you got topay for more, more CPU power and6500:03:59,039 --> 00:04:02,309some disk space. But we've got anice little community, what do6600:04:02,309 --> 00:04:06,359we have maybe 1000 people on?How many people do we have on6700:04:06,359 --> 00:04:06,929the instant6800:04:06,930 --> 00:04:09,450more than that? Oh, really? It'smore than that. I think it's6900:04:09,450 --> 00:04:12,540like, we lose like 1200 I think,7000:04:13,710 --> 00:04:19,290okay. You get much bigger, like,no agenda is capped at 10,000.7100:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,700And it's real work for Matt, youknow, he's doing real work,7200:04:23,790 --> 00:04:26,700keeping that thing running,making sure there's no, you7300:04:26,700 --> 00:04:29,070know, the vulnerabilitiesbecause of course, there are7400:04:29,070 --> 00:04:30,810vulnerabilities always.7500:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,570Yeah, it's a full time jobshoved into a part time job.7600:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,580Pretty much. Yeah. Into a hobby,7700:04:35,610 --> 00:04:41,100more or less. Yeah. But yeah,and the fun thing is to watch7800:04:41,940 --> 00:04:47,160people like Dave Weiner go, doesall this were like, oh, yeah,7900:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,270has been around for 10 years.8000:04:49,140 --> 00:04:54,900Yes. Welcome to Yeah, welcome to2012. I can't find that there's8100:04:54,900 --> 00:04:57,420a page on here somewhere thatshows what how many users you8200:04:57,420 --> 00:04:58,050can, and I8300:04:58,050 --> 00:05:00,900can Yeah, I'm looking forward toI see What is this?8400:05:01,260 --> 00:05:03,420I tried slash about that active8500:05:03,420 --> 00:05:08,880use about 301 active userstoday. Today.8600:05:10,380 --> 00:05:14,340Oh, that's active just todayjust like, posted or something.8700:05:14,340 --> 00:05:18,030I don't know. I think it waslike 1200. But let me how much8800:05:18,030 --> 00:05:23,010do we pay for this? What's thewhat's the cost right now? I8900:05:23,010 --> 00:05:24,720think podcast index dot social.9000:05:25,259 --> 00:05:29,039I think it's 20 bucks. 29 bucks.9100:05:29,490 --> 00:05:31,200Is that it? Much?9200:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,280I think so. I mean, I'd have I'dhave to check my bill.9300:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,750The bill and it's like, 150.Well, here9400:05:39,750 --> 00:05:42,720pricing. Let's take a look atwhat they got. Now, man, where9500:05:42,750 --> 00:05:48,330we have the Yeah, we have thestar level because you have moon9600:05:48,330 --> 00:05:54,990planet and star. Now, we startedwith the nine month $9 per month9700:05:54,990 --> 00:05:59,430planet. Although I think then itwas five euros. Inflation9800:05:59,430 --> 00:06:04,320people? Yeah, the $19 a monthstar, which gives you medium9900:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,480Federation capacity, whateverthat means. Processing. Oh,10000:06:09,480 --> 00:06:15,000eight processing threads. Okay.10 gigabytes of database, 10010100:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,570gigabytes of media storage. And100 active users. Oops. 100. Oh,10200:06:21,570 --> 00:06:25,140no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'msorry. No, no, no, no, we're10300:06:25,140 --> 00:06:30,000here. Here we are. We're in thegalaxy. I'm sorry. No,10400:06:30,300 --> 00:06:33,840constellation galaxy. That's thehighest. That's at nine a month.10500:06:34,530 --> 00:06:35,700So we're at 90 a month.10600:06:35,759 --> 00:06:40,439We're at 90 bucks a month shoot.That's on my my credit card.10700:06:41,340 --> 00:06:46,230Yes. I have a sneaking suspicionthat you have not been paying10800:06:46,230 --> 00:06:50,100attention to this. This is basedon prior experience with how10900:06:50,100 --> 00:06:54,870Adam looks. Which is basicallyyou don't until it gets11000:06:54,870 --> 00:06:57,510shockingly high. And then you'relike, Oh, crap.11100:06:57,540 --> 00:07:01,920That's right. Well, that'susually the AWS Bill was like,11200:07:01,980 --> 00:07:05,520wow, it's like $1,000. Dave,what can we do about this?11300:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,570Yeah, it's like, it's like, oh,it's been it's been five or 60011400:07:09,570 --> 00:07:11,430for a few months. And now it'sjust getting ridiculous. I'm11500:07:11,430 --> 00:07:13,770like, Whoa, 500 is alreadyridiculous, brother.11600:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,300This is why I'm not abillionaire.11700:07:20,130 --> 00:07:24,240That was my entire reason forbringing that bringing this make11800:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,260you go and check your creditcard stuff. But you know, there11900:07:28,260 --> 00:07:31,590really needs to be some sort oflight. There needs to be an in12000:07:31,590 --> 00:07:37,560between. There needs to besomething that is is what's that12100:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,200thing you showed me last weekwas pinafore that needs to be12200:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,410something that's that's justthat's just the interface. Yeah,12300:07:43,470 --> 00:07:47,970yeah, there needs to besomething between pinafore and12400:07:47,970 --> 00:07:53,670Mastodon and like that, whereit's just where you take like12500:07:53,670 --> 00:07:57,240something very simplistic like aradio to or a freedom controller12600:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,520type thing. And you just be justyou just put in a, an activity12700:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,410pub, your module to it,12800:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,560you make it look like Macedon onthe on the front end like the12900:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,250pinafore,13000:08:08,550 --> 00:08:11,850something like that. Yeah. Yeah.Because then you don't you don't13100:08:11,850 --> 00:08:12,810worry about like,13200:08:13,620 --> 00:08:16,740cross and it's called cross appcomments. I'm awaiting for two13300:08:16,740 --> 00:08:17,310years.13400:08:19,980 --> 00:08:23,160Comments across app commentsdone right. Could turn every13500:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,290podcast app into a mastodon, orTC MainActivity pub client app?13600:08:28,350 --> 00:08:31,050Absolutely. I've been I've beenwaiting for it. I mean, I'm13700:08:31,050 --> 00:08:32,310growing cobwebs here13800:08:36,270 --> 00:08:41,610yeah, that's that makes me Well,that brings up a little item13900:08:41,610 --> 00:08:43,320that I have on my legal padhere.14000:08:43,350 --> 00:08:46,830Oh, yeah. Which is yellow legalpad.14100:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,010Oh, yes. Yellow. Can you getonly one talk? Can14200:08:50,010 --> 00:08:53,100you get? Can you get thenotepads? Because I cannot get14300:08:53,100 --> 00:08:54,780them? They can't get them inyellow anymore. You know, the14400:08:54,780 --> 00:08:57,300ones that I mean? It's like theit's not the legal pad, but it's14500:08:57,300 --> 00:09:01,290kind of looks like a tablet.Yeah. Can you get those in14600:09:01,290 --> 00:09:04,980yellow for me? Yeah, can youtake some some of the office?14700:09:06,630 --> 00:09:11,520They're positive anymore. Do youwant to read stapler? Can you14800:09:11,520 --> 00:09:12,030give me a red14900:09:12,030 --> 00:09:13,860slave copier paper?15000:09:15,210 --> 00:09:18,120Just now I can't get any. Youcan't even get an Amazon. It's15100:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,630not.15200:09:19,109 --> 00:09:22,499This one is like from the 70s.It's15300:09:22,889 --> 00:09:26,099that's the kind of like that'sexactly the kind of like, you15400:09:26,099 --> 00:09:28,859got that little margin on theleft hand side. You can write15500:09:28,859 --> 00:09:31,049some doodle shit in there. Andthen you got15600:09:31,050 --> 00:09:34,590your liable red double line thatgoes down the left hand15700:09:34,590 --> 00:09:36,360beautiful thing, analog baby.15800:09:38,790 --> 00:09:43,920You know, this whole Mastodonthing makes me think and we15900:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,590discussed this briefly lastweek. This idea that the people16000:09:49,680 --> 00:09:55,440are now podcasters are now inthe mastodon soup, the activity16100:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,700pubs soup, without knowing thatthey're in it.16200:09:59,730 --> 00:10:03,030I will Wish we had cross appcomments ready? We would be16300:10:03,030 --> 00:10:05,520blowing people's minds rightnow. Sorry.16400:10:05,910 --> 00:10:08,430Well, that's what I'm that'sthat's what I'm trying to say16500:10:08,430 --> 00:10:16,530is. So if you had if you're ahost, this, this is for podcast16600:10:16,530 --> 00:10:22,980hosts. If your hosting company,you could imagine immediate win16700:10:22,980 --> 00:10:28,560with cross app comments by doinga connection, an OAuth16800:10:28,560 --> 00:10:33,090connection. Yeah, you're soright into your UI, say, Oh, do16900:10:33,090 --> 00:10:37,260you have a mastodon account?Because Mastodon is popular17000:10:37,260 --> 00:10:38,130enough now?17100:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,560Yeah. Looked at looked atjournos here. Yes, the girl17200:10:43,560 --> 00:10:44,370there journos?17300:10:48,990 --> 00:10:54,450There's one right there. If youif you had if you had this17400:10:54,450 --> 00:10:57,810interface like oh, do you haveMastodon connect your Mastodon17500:10:57,990 --> 00:11:02,760to your podcast hosting account?Yeah. And then whenever you put17600:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,910in makeup, whenever you make apost, it will automatically17700:11:06,150 --> 00:11:10,920cross post over to Mastodon toyour account. Yeah. And suck the17800:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,090URL back in as17900:11:12,090 --> 00:11:18,060a post. That's Wait, that'sanother one that another journal18000:11:18,210 --> 00:11:19,710got what? Got him?18100:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,320This is this. Some people maynot know that.18200:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,370But that just makes perfect, bythe way and who have you already18300:11:32,430 --> 00:11:34,080threatened that they have to dothis?18400:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,590This was the initial thrust.Okay,18500:11:37,620 --> 00:11:40,530you heard our AK right people.That's when we do have18600:11:40,530 --> 00:11:46,590journalists gunfire. We havegunfire at our disposal. If you18700:11:46,590 --> 00:11:51,300go to like bullying people inpodcasting, yeah, this is highly18800:11:51,300 --> 00:11:53,610effective. Wonders.18900:11:55,140 --> 00:11:57,120Based on this track record thisessentially.19000:12:00,690 --> 00:12:01,860Anybody are secrets?19100:12:02,310 --> 00:12:07,740Yeah. Right. It's it's more it'smore like it's a combination of19200:12:08,250 --> 00:12:10,260spoiling and badgering. Yes.19300:12:10,290 --> 00:12:13,230Like that is a bit of the NewInternational lifestyle. Have19400:12:13,230 --> 00:12:17,010you ever heard Dvorak excoriatethe donors? Yes.19500:12:17,100 --> 00:12:21,900Which is funny, by the way, loveit. It's just like, it's like19600:12:21,900 --> 00:12:25,110cats. The more you the more youyou know, abused them, the more19700:12:25,110 --> 00:12:29,910they love you, this journalistor the media, abusing them where19800:12:29,910 --> 00:12:30,390they love you.19900:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,420Maybe one day we'll get rich offof this idea, then Dave,20000:12:34,710 --> 00:12:37,890nothing's worked so far. verydoubtful.20100:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,000This is the most this is on parfor all of our projects. When it20200:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,720comes to find out.20300:12:43,890 --> 00:12:47,310We have only person that getsrich by abusing journalists is20400:12:47,310 --> 00:12:50,700Donald Trump. I think that's thefan Elon Musk is giving.20500:12:51,270 --> 00:12:55,440Right? Alright, so I'm sorry tointerrupt you. But yes, now's20600:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,590the time. You're absolutely it'snot is it? This relatively easy20700:12:58,590 --> 00:12:59,340to do, right?20800:13:00,540 --> 00:13:02,550Well, I mean, we did and freedomwith trailers has got to be20900:13:02,550 --> 00:13:03,690easy. It can't be that hard.21000:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,940Yeah, that's right. Controllingyou just it's the Oh off you21100:13:08,940 --> 00:13:12,180just post and boom, they'redone. And that spits back the21200:13:12,180 --> 00:13:14,040URL? Yeah, of course. It spitsback the URL.21300:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,430Yep. Yep. And there's an OAuthhandshake that song and dance21400:13:17,430 --> 00:13:20,430that can happen and you drop itright just bounce it around and21500:13:20,430 --> 00:13:26,220you're done. Yeah. This this isan instant win to me yeah. What21600:13:26,490 --> 00:13:29,970I would expect the will say catwill cast upon did a different21700:13:30,390 --> 00:13:32,640and went a different route theybaked activity portfolio into21800:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,330their into their into theirsystem but if you're like us,21900:13:37,110 --> 00:13:40,920you know who you know who willwho will probably do this. Of22000:13:40,920 --> 00:13:46,140course, other than Steven Bwhich is probably already dying22100:13:46,170 --> 00:13:54,030by the time but Dobie das overRSS blue this is this is right22200:13:54,030 --> 00:13:58,980up his ride right he loads diveinto loads of stuff. Yep. So22300:13:59,430 --> 00:14:00,810that puts somebody do that22400:14:00,810 --> 00:14:05,370just I mean, what is so cool isthis interrupt that's happening,22500:14:05,370 --> 00:14:08,790man that that that is what's sointeresting to watch and I don't22600:14:08,790 --> 00:14:13,590think it's lost on thetechnology crowd on the tech.22700:14:13,680 --> 00:14:18,480The tech journos is lost on themthey don't they don't it's22800:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,300really beautiful. I am sosurprised I just I didn't expect22900:14:24,300 --> 00:14:31,020this to happen but the part ofit's the just whatever people in23000:14:31,020 --> 00:14:34,200their mind had a go I'm gonnaleave or I need a backup or23100:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,380whatever it was they came toMacedon I expected so many to23200:14:37,380 --> 00:14:41,490drop off many did of coursebecause and some journals I've23300:14:41,490 --> 00:14:43,470been listening to him likethey're not getting the dopamine23400:14:43,470 --> 00:14:47,070hit. But most people are likewow, this is really in use net.23500:14:47,100 --> 00:14:50,190You know, this has a very heavyUsenet vibe.23600:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,270I don't think that is going toreplace Twitter. No, it's23700:14:54,450 --> 00:14:56,640completely different. That's thewhole point additive.23800:14:56,670 --> 00:14:59,730I think it's additive. Yeah, youbecause you're gonna have the23900:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,930What you realize when you're onMastodon or you're in the Fed24000:15:03,930 --> 00:15:06,840versus the Fed versus whenyou're in the Fed averse, you24100:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,440realize that your signal tonoise ratio is so much higher.24200:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,510Yeah. And so you end up havingyou, you have quality24300:15:15,510 --> 00:15:21,540conversations there. Whereas, soyou but you don't necessarily24400:15:21,540 --> 00:15:25,050abandon Twitter, you, you haveto go back to Twitter to get24500:15:25,050 --> 00:15:30,600certain types of like news. Butthen you're relieved to get to24600:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,900then close the tab in yourbrowser and go back to mass.24700:15:34,259 --> 00:15:37,589But Mastodon is you get to themessage you've seen before24800:15:37,589 --> 00:15:41,489you're done. There's nothingleft to do. You can you can try24900:15:41,489 --> 00:15:44,669and click the other tab orcertain point you've seen it all25000:15:44,669 --> 00:15:49,739and the algos not going to spitanything new back at you. So the25100:15:49,739 --> 00:15:54,17930 and and also like there's athere's a visualization of the25200:15:54,179 --> 00:16:00,089fediverse. And you can someoneposted that I think on I think25300:16:00,089 --> 00:16:05,939on no agenda social, maybe itwas Matt. And you can see that25400:16:05,939 --> 00:16:09,809we are definitely with no agendasocial is definitely somewhat25500:16:09,809 --> 00:16:14,189separated from the larger Fettyout there, because of the25600:16:14,189 --> 00:16:17,819blocklists. But we but are onlythe universe is kind of like25700:16:17,819 --> 00:16:22,679this, this ulcerous growththat's hanging off, hanging off25800:16:22,679 --> 00:16:28,739of the grow. That's malignant,clearly, that's hanging off the25900:16:28,739 --> 00:16:33,029main glob. And if you zoom in,there's a lot going on in that26000:16:33,029 --> 00:16:35,849glob. I mean, there's a lot ofstuff. When was that? I think it26100:16:35,849 --> 00:16:41,759must have been? I'm pretty sureit was. It wasn't mad at Aaron26200:16:41,759 --> 00:16:47,849or I should say. Anyways, it'syeah, you're right. I am just26300:16:47,879 --> 00:16:53,069really, really surprised at howthis is picked up. And yeah,26400:16:53,069 --> 00:16:56,009man, we totally need to takeadvantage of this.26500:16:56,820 --> 00:17:00,960What if what would be great tosee happen, and I think this can26600:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,330happen is that you would havecertain certain podcast hosts26700:17:06,690 --> 00:17:12,000that would that would do aconnector type deal. No off26800:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,720connector to an existing accountand then other hosts that would26900:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,110just go in full bore make theirmake a commenting system and27000:17:19,110 --> 00:17:23,880then federate that out withactivity pub. Right. There's a27100:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,530lot of hosting companies thatare Ruby based, that are Ruby on27200:17:28,530 --> 00:17:33,060Rails based it's I don't knowwhy they're, that's, I don't27300:17:33,060 --> 00:17:34,020know why that's the thing. But27400:17:34,110 --> 00:17:39,600that was that was very modernback in the days of early days27500:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,050of blogging, Twitter,podcasting, I think what's kind27600:17:43,050 --> 00:17:48,960of invoke, in fact, I rememberwas the thing with VCs, you, you27700:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,160build rubies or Ruby on Rails?Believe it or not,27800:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,870it probably probably camebecause of the podcasting27900:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,900demographic, the early podcastdemographic was, you know, that28000:18:04,050 --> 00:18:07,500MAC MAC oriented, and I thinkthere's a lot of Ruby on Rails28100:18:07,500 --> 00:18:11,340connections with Mac, right?based companies because I think28200:18:11,340 --> 00:18:16,170it came out of panic and it has,like, bus browser, Ruby on Rails28300:18:16,170 --> 00:18:19,350based and Tom told me thehistory of at one time, it just28400:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,940seemed very much tied to like awhole Mac culture and, but but28500:18:23,940 --> 00:18:28,140as but you know, mass likeMastodon is a Ruby on Rails app.28600:18:28,890 --> 00:18:33,660And it just seems like there's alot of it seems like there's a28700:18:33,660 --> 00:18:38,220lot of overlap cross pollinationbetween activity pub, the world28800:18:38,220 --> 00:18:41,850of activity pub in the world ofpodcasting. And like, I see them28900:18:41,850 --> 00:18:48,450as a natural as a net sort of anatural marriage. It's just, it29000:18:48,450 --> 00:18:51,420just feels right to me. And soyou could have some, some29100:18:51,420 --> 00:18:54,930companies that this a or somehosting companies that say, Oh,29200:18:54,930 --> 00:18:57,510well, you know, look at allthese we get all this activity29300:18:57,510 --> 00:19:01,740pub, Ruby gyms and all this codethis gets here, let's just let's29400:19:01,740 --> 00:19:04,980just run with it and go straightoff. You know, that'd be great.29500:19:05,010 --> 00:19:07,860I'm, of course, rejecting my owndesires here.29600:19:07,860 --> 00:19:11,610I love it. Hey, go to Fettyverse dot space.29700:19:12,510 --> 00:19:18,330Oh, then he verse does space.Maybe we need a dot space for29800:19:18,330 --> 00:19:19,170the stats29900:19:19,919 --> 00:19:24,659like that. By the way, I likedthat little JSON thing that you30000:19:24,659 --> 00:19:29,159spit out there. The stats thing?Yes. Cool. So if you so you see30100:19:29,159 --> 00:19:34,799the you see the cloud spaceright you type in no social.com30200:19:35,879 --> 00:19:36,539And then30300:19:36,780 --> 00:19:38,910is it all by itself? Nobody willfederate with it.30400:19:38,939 --> 00:19:42,419You'll get to zoom in one clickand you'll see real up in the30500:19:42,419 --> 00:19:45,449top way the top of the cloudthere's there's the little no30600:19:45,449 --> 00:19:46,949agenda social is30700:19:48,060 --> 00:19:49,860on an island but oh, it'stotally30800:19:49,860 --> 00:19:54,510and if you zoom in, I mean, it'sconnected to a lot of stuff. But30900:19:54,510 --> 00:20:00,120it's definitely is not connectedto everything. I don't know but31000:20:00,120 --> 00:20:04,650only see podcasts. It'sincredible to watch this podcast31100:20:05,940 --> 00:20:11,700is not worrying about socialjustice something my fediverse31200:20:11,700 --> 00:20:13,740Does space is something wentwrong.31300:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,760One of those helpful errors allright is anyway. Hey, yeah, it's31400:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,340something really wonderfulhappened31500:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,920that detail31600:20:28,380 --> 00:20:35,820CSB. Comic Strip blogger hasbeen now most a lot of people31700:20:35,820 --> 00:20:40,350here, met him through thisproject and have learned to31800:20:40,680 --> 00:20:49,320understand him. He's been aroundme for since man, early days31900:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,110daily source code I don't evenremember. I mean, so we're32000:20:52,110 --> 00:20:56,670talking probably more than we'retalking more than 1516 years32100:20:56,700 --> 00:21:01,380long time. 17 years, maybe evenlonger. And it's always been32200:21:01,380 --> 00:21:07,860very adversarial. I can't helpbut and he just has a we have32300:21:07,860 --> 00:21:12,720met him once before. In personin London. Yep. So we met once.32400:21:14,070 --> 00:21:16,890And otherwise he's just been youknow, just kind of this always32500:21:17,100 --> 00:21:20,400saying what I perceive to berude things, you know, calling32600:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,880me out on stuff that he thinksis wrong. Tell me I'm full of32700:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,460shit, you know. But then. So hereally drove the adoption of the32800:21:29,460 --> 00:21:34,050no agenda album artists. We do anew piece of album art every32900:21:34,050 --> 00:21:39,630single show and no agenda artgenerator.com people compete to33000:21:39,630 --> 00:21:43,320be chosen. And of course that'llall of their work eventually33100:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,140might appear in the chapterimage art so it's a fantastic33200:21:46,170 --> 00:21:49,620ecosystem. And we give themcredit we talked about it we33300:21:49,620 --> 00:21:53,070talked about the choice on theshow and Commissioner blogger33400:21:53,070 --> 00:21:57,330really drove the idea of gettingthese artists into getting a get33500:21:57,330 --> 00:22:04,470Alby wallet and putting theirget Alby address, you know their33600:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,240their get Alby or whateverusername I'd get allday.com into33700:22:09,240 --> 00:22:16,290their profile. And so I startedactually, the last three or four33800:22:16,290 --> 00:22:18,930that we've chosen already hadone, so they've gotten to 10%33900:22:18,930 --> 00:22:23,460Split have no agendas, boothsand streams, and comics or34000:22:23,460 --> 00:22:29,190Blogger, he was one of the lastfour. And so he posted on34100:22:29,190 --> 00:22:33,210podcast index dot socialist, andit was really, really nice to34200:22:33,210 --> 00:22:37,020hear this from him. And it meanta lot to me, he says how the AC34300:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,900thumbs up emoji. Oh, now thatI'm in the value for value split34400:22:42,900 --> 00:22:46,890for the latest episode, Ifinally and deeply understand34500:22:46,890 --> 00:22:50,820why you are so passionate aboutSatoshi streaming per minute and34600:22:50,820 --> 00:22:53,790other part of the for V apartfrom boosts and booster grams.34700:22:54,450 --> 00:22:57,150It gives the impression ofintimate connection with the34800:22:57,150 --> 00:23:00,300listeners. It informs thatpeople actually listen to the34900:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,120podcasts and not merelydownloaded but maybe never35000:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,840listened like I do with somepodcast. It's truly astonishing.35100:23:07,110 --> 00:23:08,550It's an awesome feeling.35200:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,330That's a That's a beautifulnote,35300:23:12,360 --> 00:23:18,540isn't it and from him. So that'sthe feeling that I tried to35400:23:18,540 --> 00:23:22,890explain to people is when yousee that, and honestly if you35500:23:22,890 --> 00:23:27,270use the get Alby the Saturnstats package, you can watch35600:23:27,270 --> 00:23:31,800stuff coming in live. It'ssomething about it. I mean, we35700:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,140we have those, you know, onesat, transaction splits that we35800:23:37,140 --> 00:23:40,260get for the index. SometimesI'll just sit there. I'll open35900:23:40,260 --> 00:23:44,010up zap zap wallet that does agood job. And I'll just hit on36000:23:44,010 --> 00:23:47,880the recent transactions. Youjust watch it flow in. Now I'm36100:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,120walking. I'm watching like micropieces of a penny. But it's like36200:23:51,330 --> 00:23:53,310someone listened for a minutesomeone listen for it. Oh,36300:23:53,310 --> 00:23:56,130that's probably a boost. Oh,that one booster gram. So when36400:23:56,130 --> 00:23:58,500listened from and it's just, Ican't believe it. You're36500:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,270watching people. Listen.36600:24:02,010 --> 00:24:05,610That makes sense. So it's it's adopamine. It's dopamine hit?36700:24:05,910 --> 00:24:11,070Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, not inthe not in the bad way. Like in36800:24:11,070 --> 00:24:16,950the it's a dopamine hit. I mean,not we that that whole idea has36900:24:16,950 --> 00:24:20,610been sort of poo pooed like, oh,that's just a dopamine hit. I37000:24:20,610 --> 00:24:25,410mean, like social medias. But,you know, I mean, it's not like,37100:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,010it's a bad thing in and ofitself. It's not objectively37200:24:29,010 --> 00:24:33,750bad, to head to feel a sense ofreward and excitement for a37300:24:33,750 --> 00:24:37,050thing that's happening in yourlife. I mean, dopamine hit is37400:24:37,050 --> 00:24:40,740not all bad. And so like whenyou when you produce something,37500:24:40,740 --> 00:24:43,380stick it out on the world andthen and then the little37600:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,520dopamine hits coming are comingback to you in this in the form37700:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,330of value.37800:24:48,390 --> 00:24:52,380Yeah, this is a different kindof dopamine hit. Yeah, yeah,37900:24:52,380 --> 00:24:57,840it's not because it's making youangry or making you anxious or38000:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,250pissed off or controversial. No,it's love. It's love.38100:25:02,970 --> 00:25:05,160It is. It's love coin.38200:25:05,190 --> 00:25:12,600It's MDMA. It's podcast. Pod.Um, write this down podcast38300:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,310Molly is what it is basically38400:25:20,190 --> 00:25:23,040that's that sounds like somebodyfrom only fans podcasts.38500:25:24,330 --> 00:25:28,170Don't do this. I'm thinkingtitle. I don't know about you.38600:25:28,380 --> 00:25:32,250Like as Molly. I don't. That'syeah, no, I think I think that's38700:25:32,250 --> 00:25:36,210the waiting. I think that's agood it's what it is does38800:25:36,210 --> 00:25:40,710associate that's that's one ofthose great uses where you see38900:25:41,070 --> 00:25:45,510technology making your lifeactually better and not just39000:25:45,510 --> 00:25:47,130feeling the outrage machine39100:25:47,490 --> 00:25:51,180just making you happy just whenyou see it. Even people39200:25:51,180 --> 00:25:54,720that write that write you evenpeople that are ugly to you in a39300:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,190booster gram still makes youhappy.39400:25:56,910 --> 00:26:01,620I know. And you can and I lovegiving you know James and Sam39500:26:01,620 --> 00:26:04,680and all kinds and Todd lovegiving them shit and sending the39600:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,000money for it. Hey, let me giveyou some shit. Here's 25,00039700:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,430Satoshis talk smack at you.39800:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,400Yeah, no, it's it's a lovelythings. But that. Speaking of39900:26:17,460 --> 00:26:25,560well lately, on CSB this thisnote also firmly confirms my40000:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,610suspicion is CSP has a muchbetter or command of the English40100:26:29,610 --> 00:26:31,620language than he likes topretend that he does.40200:26:33,330 --> 00:26:36,240May have been correcting some ofhis English on the fly.40300:26:36,750 --> 00:26:38,370Oh, okay, I got you. All right.40400:26:39,660 --> 00:26:44,280Now he's the real deal, man.He's the he's the that's it. He40500:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,420is what he is. He's the realdeal. I just want I'm sorry.40600:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,520No, no, no, by all means.40700:26:50,550 --> 00:26:54,300Well, I had a kind of a weirdthing happened that feels like a40800:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,560bug, but I'm not sure. But Iwant to make mention of it for40900:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,270the Opie three community. Areyou down with Opie three41000:27:03,270 --> 00:27:08,880community? I love following theconversations. I've no interest41100:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,510whatsoever in the resultspersonally. But I do love. Well,41200:27:12,510 --> 00:27:16,590that's not true. I love learningabout you know how this project41300:27:16,590 --> 00:27:19,620is basically kind of forcingpeople to take a look at the41400:27:19,620 --> 00:27:23,670referral agents make sure thateverything is set properly. So41500:27:23,670 --> 00:27:26,250we're getting better counts, Ithink it may be shaking up some41600:27:26,250 --> 00:27:28,770players in the industry who mayor may not want to implement41700:27:28,770 --> 00:27:34,290this in their own software. Whoknows, you know, other41800:27:34,290 --> 00:27:37,020interesting things that aretaking place. And here's41900:27:37,020 --> 00:27:40,320something that happened. And Idon't know exactly where the42000:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,220problem is, but it may besomething that op three could42100:27:44,250 --> 00:27:48,300should be aware of. And that isthe last no agenda show I42200:27:48,300 --> 00:27:52,980published. Everything was fine.And then I was alerted to the42300:27:52,980 --> 00:27:58,080fact that I had not put the IDthree tags into the mp3 file,42400:27:58,590 --> 00:28:02,670which I typically do. And mainlythe main thing being the image42500:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,060if you don't make the image andthere's a number of podcast42600:28:06,060 --> 00:28:09,030players out there, which willnot show the image, even though42700:28:09,030 --> 00:28:13,440it's in the channel, RSSchannel, feed all that stuff.42800:28:13,890 --> 00:28:17,790It's just that just happens toso of course, alright. Oh, okay,42900:28:17,790 --> 00:28:20,040that's kind of dumb, too. Iwanted in there. So I go back, I43000:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,400bake it properly. Now I'velearned that the best way to do43100:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,820it is to delete and then uploadthe new one. And that goes43200:28:26,820 --> 00:28:27,630pretty quickly.43300:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,870And then that breaks the cache.43400:28:32,190 --> 00:28:36,510That breaks the cache and it'sjust never been a problem. And43500:28:36,510 --> 00:28:39,000I've had to I've had to replacefiles. It's never been a43600:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,510problem. Google podcasts shitthe bed?43700:28:43,350 --> 00:28:46,860Oh, no. Well, at least that'sonly 2% of the43800:28:46,890 --> 00:28:51,660more than I thought more morepeople than I thought it more43900:28:51,660 --> 00:28:55,140than dog catcher, but not much.But like say double dog catcher.44000:28:55,650 --> 00:28:58,770A double document your doublethe dogs that maybe see Yeah,44100:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,770maybe 1213 People immediatelyask what's wrong with you? Why44200:29:04,770 --> 00:29:07,920are you using Google podcasts?Yes, stop. Just stop it. Stop44300:29:07,920 --> 00:29:15,990it. Yeah. Why would you do likebeing old fashioned? Yeah. But I44400:29:15,990 --> 00:29:19,320even had some some very kindlisteners, delete the app and44500:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,870reinstall it. And still itwouldn't work. Even though if44600:29:21,870 --> 00:29:26,490you went to if you went toGoogle podcasts on the web, it44700:29:26,490 --> 00:29:30,210was there fine and played fine.So there's something with the44800:29:30,210 --> 00:29:34,110Google app. And I don't know. Idon't know if the Google44900:29:34,110 --> 00:29:38,730podcasts app. Yes. I wonder ifthey're, if they're caching45000:29:38,730 --> 00:29:40,770something somewhere, becausethat's kind of what it felt like45100:29:40,770 --> 00:29:43,140to me. And I don't understandand that could be in the app,45200:29:43,140 --> 00:29:46,200but if it's at some, some headend or something that could45300:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,800affect the numbers people arelooking at.45400:29:50,850 --> 00:29:54,300I can't imagine what that wouldactually be. So when you45500:29:54,300 --> 00:29:59,730replaced the enclosure, it had adifferent file name, file name.45600:30:00,630 --> 00:30:05,430Same for I can't imagine whatthat could possibly be Google45700:30:06,330 --> 00:30:09,810unless, and the only thing I can45800:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,930write, but just I just thoughtI'd throw it out there.45900:30:14,670 --> 00:30:17,610Now now that you know thesethings like things like this46000:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,750oddities like this bother mementally, the only thing I could46100:30:21,750 --> 00:30:25,860imagine is that somehow they'redoing some sort of pass. They're46200:30:25,860 --> 00:30:32,310doing pass through. And butthey're cashing in then they see46300:30:32,310 --> 00:30:38,940there's some sort of like, cashpatch mismatch. I don't know46400:30:38,940 --> 00:30:41,250what this is. That's weird.Yeah.46500:30:41,790 --> 00:30:48,090Well, only Google or maybe now Ithink was Google. Is there any46600:30:48,090 --> 00:30:53,520is any other? Do they have anydevice? For some? I think there46700:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,890was some other reporting. It'sjust like, oh, that's a Google.46800:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,930They're probably using Googlesystem. I don't know. It was46900:30:57,930 --> 00:30:58,260weird.47000:30:58,350 --> 00:31:05,040Yeah. Well, that'd be one thingon op three front. I was47100:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280listening to Todd and Rosli saidin the media show,47200:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280was that a new one? Is that theone they did last week? It47300:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,780looked like it had a new name,title.47400:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,620It was a new and it threw me offto I think the title was like47500:31:16,650 --> 00:31:17,940almost the same or something.47600:31:18,330 --> 00:31:22,170Not listened to it because Ithought it was somehow something47700:31:22,170 --> 00:31:25,770had messed up. I know, Mitch, Idid two sync problems with POD47800:31:25,770 --> 00:31:30,780verse and thought, oh, maybewhatever. Oh, man, go God. God47900:31:31,470 --> 00:31:34,350said sad marketing, you knowbetter than this, which is48000:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,130You're better than this. Todd.You scared me away from a brand48100:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,700new episode, and I was lookingat I listened to pivot instead.48200:31:43,950 --> 00:31:48,570Okay, yes. Here's the problem.Here's the problem. Last week48300:31:48,570 --> 00:31:52,620show the title was podcast adrep companies in big trouble.48400:31:53,130 --> 00:31:56,910The title of this week's show islazy podcast advertising. Rip.48500:31:57,870 --> 00:32:01,140Okay, that's so that's whatthrew me off. It had48600:32:01,140 --> 00:32:06,060linguistic foo in there that wasso similar. Yeah. That it threw48700:32:06,060 --> 00:32:08,130me off too, because I almostdeleted it, too. I thought it48800:32:08,130 --> 00:32:10,620was a rehash. I thought it cameback from the dead.48900:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,330Okay, so when was that he good?49000:32:12,989 --> 00:32:17,939Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's good. Sothe one you know, number one49100:32:17,939 --> 00:32:21,509here is his liquidity wasdrained. So we you you opened a49200:32:21,509 --> 00:32:22,679new channel to him, we got the49300:32:22,979 --> 00:32:27,419open up, I think, a 2 millionSatoshi channel. And me and like49400:32:27,569 --> 00:32:30,29910 minutes later, hey, I'm goingover to get lb49500:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,180saw that? Great. Because I wastrying to boost him he was he49600:32:39,180 --> 00:32:42,000was on the show. He was like,man, we must not be having a49700:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,130good show. Because nobody'sboosting this. And like, we49800:32:44,130 --> 00:32:48,540can't, we can't boost you. We'reout of money. Sure. out of out49900:32:48,540 --> 00:32:52,560of liquidity. Yeah. But anyway,so no, it was a good show. But50000:32:52,590 --> 00:32:55,050one thing that he talked abouton there talked about a lot of50100:32:55,050 --> 00:33:00,300things that interested me. Butone thing is, you know, I've50200:33:00,300 --> 00:33:05,460been trying to say for the lastfew weeks, that what I would50300:33:05,460 --> 00:33:10,590really love is an open is thatis the podcast hosting companies50400:33:11,190 --> 00:33:17,610to make some, some sort of datapublic, of trending shows, or,50500:33:18,210 --> 00:33:24,840like, show lists public, so thatwe don't have to depend on the50600:33:24,870 --> 00:33:32,970apps themselves to releasetrending and whatever you call50700:33:32,970 --> 00:33:36,300it, like trending data, or topchart charts and things like50800:33:36,300 --> 00:33:41,640that, like I want, I would liketo have recommendations of shows50900:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,700that are that are coming fromthe hosting companies51000:33:44,700 --> 00:33:49,230themselves. Like, it doesn'teven have to be trending or top51100:33:49,290 --> 00:33:54,000or quote unquote, top shows. Itcould just be, here's a list of51200:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,080shows that we we want the worldto listen to. It could be just51300:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720whatever criteria that thehosting companies want. I just51400:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,190want lists, I want lists ofshows that can be they can be51500:34:05,190 --> 00:34:09,570treated as recommendations, sothat we can build open,51600:34:10,350 --> 00:34:15,720decentralized recommendationpoints that are not based on51700:34:17,340 --> 00:34:22,770Apple, Spotify, Google, thesebig huge companies. I think the51800:34:22,770 --> 00:34:25,740hosting companies have thisdata. And I would like them to51900:34:25,740 --> 00:34:30,300give it to the community in someway so that we can the pie. The52000:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,270podcast industry should buildthe solutions not52100:34:33,390 --> 00:34:38,820right breach, but companies butso the key word here is what is52200:34:38,820 --> 00:34:43,680trending. What I mean you justwant list, but what data and I52300:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,440can already tell you that thisneeds a steering group, it needs52400:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,180a nonprofit it needs it throughyour mind need a C four just for52500:34:51,180 --> 00:34:56,190the lobbying and Congress tounderstand what exactly the data52600:34:56,190 --> 00:34:59,970is. How's it compiled? Those arethose guys jackin their own show52700:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,120Oh, I can go on like this forever on this.52800:35:03,179 --> 00:35:08,609I know I got a guy that can do a990. For us. We get no, I don't52900:35:08,609 --> 00:35:15,989even kit. Let me I want to bereally clear. I don't I53000:35:15,989 --> 00:35:22,769personally do not care if it's achart for top shows or trending.53100:35:23,519 --> 00:35:30,479None of that bothers me. I justwant lists of shows. So, to me a53200:35:30,479 --> 00:35:37,019list could coming from blueberrywould be something like, here is53300:35:37,649 --> 00:35:45,059400 Great blueberry showsperiod. That no no metrics? No,53400:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,249no. Nothing like, here is the400 top blueberry shows by53500:35:50,249 --> 00:35:55,379download, like, I don't careabout that. It's just actually53600:35:55,379 --> 00:35:58,379the more ambiguous the metrics,the better, because you're just53700:35:58,379 --> 00:36:01,229like, they can be a rotatinglist where you say,53800:36:02,579 --> 00:36:05,609but it reflects the the hostingcompanies preference, whatever53900:36:05,609 --> 00:36:06,299that is.54000:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,010Yes, it reflects, it reflectssome sort of quality signal54100:36:11,010 --> 00:36:14,610within the hosting company wherethey say, the here's a batch of54200:36:14,610 --> 00:36:20,400shows that we consider to bereally good quality shows that54300:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,350are on our network. And that'sthe only that's the only signal54400:36:25,350 --> 00:36:27,780you get from them. You theydon't tell you what the metric54500:36:27,780 --> 00:36:30,870is the the shows could have 12listeners.54600:36:30,990 --> 00:36:35,400Okay, I gotcha, that will get wewill circle back to that.54700:36:35,940 --> 00:36:41,340But okay. But here's what Toddwas talking about he he was54800:36:41,340 --> 00:36:45,090saying that specifically, theydo not want to release their top54900:36:45,090 --> 00:36:50,250shows, like a list of here's ourtop shows by download. Because55000:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,820his words were immediatelyeverybody was start poaching his55100:36:53,820 --> 00:36:54,510shows.55200:36:56,340 --> 00:37:01,290But what to what end? Okay, Ijust got to go back to first55300:37:01,290 --> 00:37:07,380principles. What what is thepoint to what to be able to say,55400:37:07,530 --> 00:37:10,830here's a list of cool podcaststo listen to, how can that be55500:37:10,830 --> 00:37:14,190relevant to me, I hear aboutcool podcasts from you on55600:37:14,190 --> 00:37:17,520signal, or I read aboutsomething or I pick something55700:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,290up. That's this, it's mythicalto me, this this podcast55800:37:22,290 --> 00:37:24,870discovery and you know, the bestand55900:37:26,159 --> 00:37:30,149this is not about it. This iswhere this conversation goes56000:37:30,149 --> 00:37:34,349always inside. It's, I don'twant to be more clear. It's not56100:37:34,379 --> 00:37:39,839really about discovery. This ismore. So we imagine this56200:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,329scenario. And this is reallymore of a programming thing.56300:37:43,439 --> 00:37:46,109Imagine this, here's thescenario that we hit during56400:37:46,109 --> 00:37:49,199freedom controller build,somebody installs a freedom56500:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,769controller, they set up a newaccount, and there's going to be56600:37:52,769 --> 00:37:57,149a news River in there a river ofNew Thought news items. Where56700:37:57,149 --> 00:38:00,629are those feeds coming from,there's got to be a default56800:38:00,629 --> 00:38:04,049list, there's got to besomething to start with, like a56900:38:04,049 --> 00:38:09,329seed, a seed OPML, where allthese feeds are going to come57000:38:09,329 --> 00:38:13,289from? Well, you know, we had tobuild that. And so we built in,57100:38:13,499 --> 00:38:16,739there's a default list that youstart with of about 50 feeds.57200:38:17,459 --> 00:38:22,289That's what I want, I want adefault place to start. Because57300:38:22,289 --> 00:38:24,989every podcast app, no matterwhat it looks like, is going to57400:38:24,989 --> 00:38:29,969have some Bootstrap, that it hasto have, where when you go, when57500:38:29,969 --> 00:38:33,209you open the apps, you don'tjust get a blank screen, it57600:38:34,559 --> 00:38:39,479always comes back to share yourOPML always says this. And that,57700:38:39,689 --> 00:38:43,049may I make a suggestion, that'swhere you want to get your list57800:38:43,049 --> 00:38:47,939from. You want to get your listfrom individuals, and that can57900:38:47,939 --> 00:38:56,879be aggregated to every singlething that works. Okay. So I58000:38:56,879 --> 00:38:59,489understand what you're sayingwas, I'm not quite sure why but58100:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,819here's what I here's what I seea benefit of is that share my58200:39:02,819 --> 00:39:05,249OPML I think is what isbasically it's your subscription58300:39:05,249 --> 00:39:09,449list. And, and I find this to bevery valuable. And I would love58400:39:09,449 --> 00:39:11,699and you know, this used to be athing, it's like you used to58500:39:11,699 --> 00:39:14,459have a blog role and be on theside of your page. And these are58600:39:14,459 --> 00:39:19,859the things that I'm the blog'sthat I'm subscribed to. But your58700:39:19,859 --> 00:39:22,829actual feed subscription listswhich people typically use to58800:39:22,829 --> 00:39:27,089export to go from one app to theother, that's actually valuable58900:39:27,089 --> 00:39:31,139information that can be sharedand aggregated. What you're59000:39:31,139 --> 00:39:35,999proposing when it comes from,for example, a hosting company59100:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,479well, I can tell you right now,and I'm I'm a pretty honest guy,59200:39:39,479 --> 00:39:43,319but at a certain point, I thinksome marketing might show up59300:39:43,319 --> 00:39:46,739that would say, hey, we can evenget you noticed, you know,59400:39:46,739 --> 00:39:49,619because yeah, put you up put youon the list and put you in the59500:39:49,619 --> 00:39:53,129rotation. So you know, thatcreeps in I've worked at MTV, so59600:39:53,129 --> 00:39:56,069I know exactly how this works.It's not people aren't evil, but59700:39:56,069 --> 00:39:59,549it just kind of you know itokay, but that's okay. No, it's59800:39:59,579 --> 00:40:03,179I'm not saying is not okay. Butisn't it better to get it from59900:40:03,179 --> 00:40:07,619the listeners themselves and Ican identify with this is part60000:40:07,619 --> 00:40:10,019of what I like, although theyhaven't figured it out yet.60100:40:10,049 --> 00:40:13,349Fountain is getting close tothat. Except they're, they're60200:40:13,349 --> 00:40:16,559matching people up with clipsand stuff like that. But it's60300:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,059really like, because you and Ilisten, if I were to put our60400:40:21,059 --> 00:40:25,079two, we should like we should dothis, I will export my OPML and60500:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,239we'll put them next to eachother. And there's going to be60600:40:27,239 --> 00:40:33,629some interesting overlap. Andyou know, and I can learn about60700:40:33,629 --> 00:40:36,689some things that I'm I Adamcurry might want to listen to60800:40:36,689 --> 00:40:38,699not some just default stuff.60900:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,910Oh, oh, I just had I just61000:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,290I would like, okay.61100:40:45,869 --> 00:40:51,839We, if everything ultimatelyends up being, if all good ideas61200:40:51,839 --> 00:40:57,029ultimately end up being shareyour opinion. time every time.61300:40:57,419 --> 00:41:01,529If that just let's just startfighting it and embrace it. So61400:41:02,759 --> 00:41:08,219let's let's do this. But whydon't I put in something into61500:41:08,219 --> 00:41:12,989the into the API? That's ananonymous OPML submission.61600:41:13,349 --> 00:41:17,009This non cast event obviously,moving could be61700:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,920yes. And then we'll, we'll haveit in den the apps like pod61800:41:22,920 --> 00:41:31,170verse, curio caster, they canjust they can submit with their,61900:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,290you know, customer client classapproval with their listener62000:41:37,290 --> 00:41:39,690listening list with theirlisteners approval, an62100:41:39,690 --> 00:41:45,210anonymized OPML list back to theIndex dairy and then we will62200:41:45,210 --> 00:41:49,710index those anonymized lists andjust make the in convert those62300:41:49,710 --> 00:41:53,820lists into a public list. That'sthat can be used by anybody who62400:41:53,820 --> 00:41:57,390wants to have a getting started.Here's a podcast use your62500:41:57,390 --> 00:41:57,870starters.62600:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,590And now you have a public way tocircumvent the most irritating62700:42:01,590 --> 00:42:07,680thing in modern user generatedcontent. Add like and subscribe.62800:42:07,710 --> 00:42:11,070Now subscribe will actually meansomething because that subscribe62900:42:11,340 --> 00:42:16,110will show up publicly and we canreally see who's subscribing to63000:42:16,110 --> 00:42:20,430what. Or at least what's beingsubscribed to. We don't need to63100:42:20,430 --> 00:42:23,010Doc's. Anybody Hold on a second.Dave coming at you right now.63200:42:23,010 --> 00:42:26,220Brother. Look at your signals.There it is. There's Adam curry63300:42:26,220 --> 00:42:27,360subscription list.63400:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,770You just signaled it to him.Yeah. You did that while you63500:42:31,770 --> 00:42:32,370were talking?63600:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,390Oh, you have no idea what I'mdoing here while I'm talking.63700:42:41,579 --> 00:42:45,239Yeah, this all the all the appsif I understand, right, all the63800:42:45,269 --> 00:42:49,709all the 2.0 apps will get yourOPML Yeah. Okay, I'm doing63900:42:49,710 --> 00:42:50,760something else here for asecond.64000:42:54,329 --> 00:43:00,359Share your bone. Okay, so if allthe if all the 2.0 apps, and I64100:43:00,359 --> 00:43:04,139think they all do now supportOPML export, they have that code64200:43:04,139 --> 00:43:07,499in I'm already now. So they,they should be able to do64300:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,560that I need to tell you a storyabout default lists, just so I64400:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,370get it off my chest, I have toabsolve myself of this detail.64500:43:15,420 --> 00:43:20,310Radio userland was theaggregator slash blog client64600:43:20,310 --> 00:43:22,860that Dave Weiner wrote. That'show I got interested in that's64700:43:22,860 --> 00:43:25,440how eventually thatcollaboration led to podcasting.64800:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,580But even before that, before,before we started working on64900:43:29,580 --> 00:43:33,930that, probably couple of yearsbefore I don't remember, I don't65000:43:33,930 --> 00:43:38,370remember the timing exactly. Isaw this this aggregator like65100:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,910this radio user land like, wow,I want my blog to be in that65200:43:41,910 --> 00:43:48,870first list of, of 20. Of 20blogs, and I gave him $10,000 to65300:43:48,870 --> 00:43:52,350put my name in there as adefault. No, I think he's told65400:43:52,350 --> 00:43:56,130me that I was on I was on thedefault feeds list in a lot of65500:43:56,130 --> 00:43:59,880podcast app for a long, longtime because of that it paid65600:43:59,880 --> 00:44:06,780off. But I'm just saying that itstill feels bad. Many, many65700:44:06,810 --> 00:44:10,200decades later. It's like taking65800:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,640wooden silver like I can65900:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,800at what you can66000:44:17,039 --> 00:44:21,509eat Okay, real. It's the realOPML lists from this is what66100:44:21,509 --> 00:44:21,629from66200:44:21,630 --> 00:44:24,510the user this is what I like Ithink this is a very exciting66300:44:24,510 --> 00:44:25,020idea.66400:44:25,860 --> 00:44:30,420Yeah, you in the listeners have,you can have that side of66500:44:30,420 --> 00:44:33,540things. And then you could alsohave the host side of things66600:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,190where they have their lists thatthey66700:44:35,850 --> 00:44:39,060put into the way but yes, we canput it all together. I mean, but66800:44:39,060 --> 00:44:42,180I just think like this, yougotta have I would drive it from66900:44:42,180 --> 00:44:46,380the listeners have have anyonecan contribute. Why not? Why67000:44:46,380 --> 00:44:54,090wouldn't I mean? Why wouldn't anapp itself so here's just your67100:44:54,090 --> 00:44:57,090right we can have what is sharemy OPML that's, that's the67200:44:57,090 --> 00:45:00,210bottom line doesn't matter whoyou are, what type of entity You67300:45:00,210 --> 00:45:03,840are as long as we can all shareit and then we can aggregate it67400:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,710and come up with some fun statsor, Hey, we got we got a lot of67500:45:07,710 --> 00:45:13,710people, we just need to have thedata. I'm sure people like, you67600:45:13,710 --> 00:45:19,230know, there's some AI MSL KYCAML people out there who will do67700:45:19,230 --> 00:45:21,660something really cool with itand come up with some, some cool67800:45:21,660 --> 00:45:24,210charts and graphs and mayberecommendation engines. I67900:45:24,209 --> 00:45:27,809don't know. Yeah, that's this isthis one. But it's a machine68000:45:27,809 --> 00:45:30,539readable. I thank you for sayingit. Let's not let's stop68100:45:30,539 --> 00:45:31,919fighting the joke.68200:45:33,750 --> 00:45:37,260Just embrace embrace this worldembrace this brave new world of68300:45:37,260 --> 00:45:40,890hope in this brave new world ofOPML. That's 25 years ago.68400:45:40,949 --> 00:45:42,959Oh my goodness. That68500:45:43,590 --> 00:45:49,950this, this old professor of mineand took took a classroom called68600:45:49,950 --> 00:45:55,110extraterrestrial life. It was inin college, one of the funniest68700:45:55,230 --> 00:45:59,760classes I've ever had. And he hemade the statement that all you68800:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,370know, all the best scientistseventually become68900:46:02,370 --> 00:46:05,670astrophysicist. They eventuallyturn their turn their focus to69000:46:05,670 --> 00:46:10,230space. And yeah, all the bestideas are always eventually69100:46:10,230 --> 00:46:13,320become share your OPML so let'sjust do it. Let's just go that69200:46:13,320 --> 00:46:13,620way.69300:46:13,649 --> 00:46:18,389Well, and let's just be carefulhere. We're doing cuz you're69400:46:18,389 --> 00:46:25,289right. All things. Just the tip,Dave, let's be careful. It's not69500:46:25,319 --> 00:46:29,429not go all the way. This iseasy, does it? What was the69600:46:29,429 --> 00:46:34,799beauty of Napster? Was it justthat you could search for69700:46:34,799 --> 00:46:38,279something and download it? Orwas it? Hey, I'm downloading69800:46:38,279 --> 00:46:41,879this thing. And let me see whatelse this dude has on his drive.69900:46:42,779 --> 00:46:48,119That exploration was part of thebeauty of it. You know what I'm70000:46:48,119 --> 00:46:48,689saying?70100:46:49,590 --> 00:46:52,470Yeah, because you can see thewhole collection and not just70200:46:52,500 --> 00:46:53,490the thing you want it.70300:46:53,550 --> 00:46:57,810It's like I would love to haveaccess to now I'm gonna get70400:46:57,810 --> 00:47:01,620fancy here because I would loveto have a true OPML file and70500:47:01,620 --> 00:47:06,900have it foldable by whatever.Like an outline. I think James70600:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,390Cleveland's OPML will be prettyinteresting to look at.70700:47:10,619 --> 00:47:16,769Your This is crazy. This iscrazy talk. You want actual70800:47:16,799 --> 00:47:18,209valid OPML70900:47:20,190 --> 00:47:23,670I know. I'm sorry. Instead ofjust a subscription list you and71000:47:23,670 --> 00:47:27,480I have you haven't right validOPML but Okay, what else? Yeah,71100:47:27,510 --> 00:47:30,840exactly. Yes. That's the crazytalk. I'm talking about71200:47:31,079 --> 00:47:35,099the only person the only personyounger than then 50 Besides us71300:47:35,099 --> 00:47:38,219that cares about valid opiummill is Christopher ICs.71400:47:38,249 --> 00:47:41,309Right well he right now he'slike well, he can't believe his71500:47:41,309 --> 00:47:45,929luck. He by the way he he isshare my OPML71600:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,629this what is his name? That'shis middle name is share71700:47:48,629 --> 00:47:49,169European.71800:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,919I just does he have an API tohis stuff? Because he's got a71900:47:52,919 --> 00:47:54,869lot of stuff going on and OPML72000:47:55,380 --> 00:47:58,470I don't know he's runs like aruns like a rack of like 20 year72100:47:58,470 --> 00:48:01,350old servers in his garagediffer.72200:48:01,349 --> 00:48:03,779This is up your alley, brother.This is the stuff you know72300:48:03,779 --> 00:48:08,939about. That, I guess they callthis a cool idea. I like it.72400:48:10,050 --> 00:48:14,880So on the well, quick update onpod ping dot cloud.72500:48:14,909 --> 00:48:19,619Yes. This seems to I'll behonest. It's given me a little72600:48:19,619 --> 00:48:25,259bit of a reliability issue.Feelings anxiety. No. Well, I72700:48:25,259 --> 00:48:27,149had a misfire with no agenda.72800:48:28,050 --> 00:48:31,410How did that Oh, I don't know.So Mr. Id three tags. So head72900:48:31,410 --> 00:48:33,090on. May have been you.73000:48:33,539 --> 00:48:39,179Wow. Thanks. IT support. How youhelp everyone at the firm day.73100:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,249First thing you do is blame theuser? Of course. It's never my73200:48:44,249 --> 00:48:44,519fault.73300:48:46,289 --> 00:48:48,239Check the caps lock you Dumbo73400:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,050Castle hook. Yeah, it's aproblem between the keyboard and73500:48:52,050 --> 00:48:57,210the brain in the brain. But Idon't know I don't I don't think73600:48:57,420 --> 00:49:00,780is there a reliability issuewith puffy? No cloud on it?73700:49:00,780 --> 00:49:02,040Well, okay. Okay. To me.73800:49:02,429 --> 00:49:06,449Todd hasn't successfully done alive pod ping in his life. That73900:49:06,449 --> 00:49:12,029mine mine failed yesterday.What's going on? And all I see74000:49:12,029 --> 00:49:16,679is Brian of London going Yeah,look, I've got to 8000 things74100:49:16,679 --> 00:49:20,819going on and and Facebook. Ican't tell you why. How rich I'm74200:49:20,819 --> 00:49:23,489going to be off of them. Andthen Dave comes in and goes,74300:49:23,909 --> 00:49:28,709well, this one broke and the AAAdot two and the BB BB is running74400:49:28,709 --> 00:49:32,789fine. But meanwhile, Todd hasIvan. Here's what's happening.74500:49:33,659 --> 00:49:38,159Todd is trying to reach me withhis live pod ping. And I'm not74600:49:38,159 --> 00:49:41,039getting them so I'm missing theshow. And not only that, but he74700:49:41,039 --> 00:49:45,899does a dumb title and then Imissed the show. You're breaking74800:49:45,899 --> 00:49:48,719up our relationship with thispod ping issues74900:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,050he's trying to reach is a longdistance relationship and I'm75000:49:52,050 --> 00:49:53,310interfering with this.75100:49:53,610 --> 00:49:57,120It's like a channel it's like alightning channel being down75200:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,940when the when the connection isbroken. You feel that75300:50:00,750 --> 00:50:10,380I cannot. I cannot explain whyTodd cannot send a left HUD. No,75400:50:10,830 --> 00:50:15,090I don't know what's wrong withthis, but I do. But, but I know75500:50:15,090 --> 00:50:17,820what the solution. I don't knowwhat the problem is. But I do75600:50:17,820 --> 00:50:19,770know what the solution is. Now,for75700:50:19,770 --> 00:50:23,160instance, oh, no, I'm sorry. Wedid get a live ping for75800:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,740podcasting two point. Okay, thatdid work. Yeah, yeah. And what I75900:50:25,740 --> 00:50:28,380see right here on my phone,what's, what's the solution?76000:50:28,770 --> 00:50:35,100The solution is the next versionof pod pain dot cloud, which we76100:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,880are working to get, because onceonce we get lot of reason code76200:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,050support in piping dot cloud,then then we don't have to rely76300:50:43,050 --> 00:50:47,280on these alternate solutions.People can just send what76400:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,970they're used to. They can justsend there's their thing.76500:50:50,970 --> 00:50:53,610They're paying to pop into acloud with a lot of reason code.76600:50:53,610 --> 00:50:57,540And, you know, and all theseother hacky side solutions, have76700:50:57,570 --> 00:51:02,880they could they go away? Right.So I think that's really76800:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,390ultimately the fix. And we'regetting we're getting there we76900:51:07,110 --> 00:51:11,190we've got the back end and frontend talking to each other now.77000:51:13,110 --> 00:51:21,360And thank you to thank you toAlex for rescuing me from my via77100:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,040from trying to take figure outhow to take this protocol buffer77200:51:26,820 --> 00:51:33,270and send it over the socket. Ina way, it was driving me crazy.77300:51:33,270 --> 00:51:36,240I'm like, I know, this is it, Iknow, this is the thing that I77400:51:36,240 --> 00:51:39,930got to sin, and it just wouldnot work. And so he looked at77500:51:39,930 --> 00:51:44,070any in, he was like, oh, youcan't send this in pieces, it's77600:51:44,070 --> 00:51:46,440got to be, it's got to be allyou got to send the whole buffer77700:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,100at once. Like, oh, for me, I wasbeating my head against the77800:51:50,100 --> 00:51:53,430wall. And then he also foundthat I was not wrapping it in77900:51:53,430 --> 00:51:56,100the correct type. So anyway, hewas able to spot some put fresh78000:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,350eyes on his spot what I wasdoing wrong. So we got that78100:51:58,350 --> 00:52:02,790working. Now it's crashing, onthe on the back end on on the78200:52:02,790 --> 00:52:07,380hive writer. So the ultimate. Sowe're trying to do this in a way78300:52:07,380 --> 00:52:09,900that's modular as well, becauseultimately, we want to have more78400:52:09,900 --> 00:52:13,290than just the hive writer, wewant to be able to have other78500:52:13,290 --> 00:52:17,250back end writers where thiswhere you send a pod pain to78600:52:17,250 --> 00:52:19,950piping dot cloud, it getswritten to hive, it gets written78700:52:19,950 --> 00:52:24,450to IPFS, Pub Sub, whatever, youknow, all it can blast out into78800:52:24,450 --> 00:52:28,950a whole bunch of differentbackends as appropriate, okay.78900:52:29,730 --> 00:52:32,640And so that's we're sort oftrying to solve all these things79000:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,130at once. With by by designingthe correct architecture up79100:52:38,130 --> 00:52:41,370front. And correct architecture.Is this one too many socket?79200:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,540Yes. You're doing this in yourspare time as Alex as is Brian.79300:52:46,110 --> 00:52:48,510Yeah, yeah. And I love you guysfor this.79400:52:48,810 --> 00:52:51,810Getting close. It's gettingclose to the holidays is made79500:52:51,840 --> 00:52:59,490things hard. That's what shesaid. It's so79600:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,610I'm sorry, I'm real punchy. Westarted an hour later, Dave. I79700:53:02,610 --> 00:53:04,260mean, it's your fault.Basically. It's79800:53:04,260 --> 00:53:07,080too I blame retro you had waytoo much.79900:53:08,489 --> 00:53:11,879This problem is it's not me.It's the dirty the dirty chat80000:53:11,879 --> 00:53:13,499room. Oh,80100:53:13,500 --> 00:53:14,250they get you fired. I80200:53:15,900 --> 00:53:19,470read your quote in the chat roomand you'll understand. Okay.80300:53:25,079 --> 00:53:31,259Yes, yes. Yes, of course. Ofcourse. As you guys.80400:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,830They baited me Good job, boys.You got80500:53:34,860 --> 00:53:39,510this. See this is this is what Ido. I do double entendre Yes.80600:53:39,540 --> 00:53:40,590Without realizing it80700:53:40,619 --> 00:53:43,559does actually trigger me throughthe chat room. You're so80800:53:43,559 --> 00:53:44,189brilliant.80900:53:44,550 --> 00:53:52,560So my my my most famous exampleof accidental double entendre is81000:53:52,860 --> 00:53:57,180me and my wife went to Logan'sRoadhouse. I don't know if y'all81100:53:57,180 --> 00:54:00,780have those in Texas or not. Idon't think so. It's like a81200:54:00,780 --> 00:54:02,400chain steakhouse place.81300:54:03,809 --> 00:54:07,499We get have a beef snob. I don'tgo to chains. Yes, yes.81400:54:09,389 --> 00:54:12,449But we went there for out on adate night or something like81500:54:12,449 --> 00:54:17,939that. And we have, we had acouple of steaks and then and81600:54:17,939 --> 00:54:21,629I'm so full. I can't I mean, Ican't eat anything else. But81700:54:21,629 --> 00:54:25,949this waiter who's like, I don'tknow. 19 years old. He comes81800:54:25,949 --> 00:54:30,299over to the it comes back to thetable. He's like, Hey, can I can81900:54:30,299 --> 00:54:35,939I get you awesome dessert? Well,my dad, for my dad has always he82000:54:35,939 --> 00:54:39,029has all these these sayings.Like he's just famous for these82100:54:39,029 --> 00:54:45,149sayings. And one of these, oneof his classic sayings is when82200:54:45,149 --> 00:54:47,879he's really full and somebodyasks him if you want dessert.82300:54:49,409 --> 00:54:54,119He's like, I'd have to rub it onthe outside. Because no room.82400:54:56,099 --> 00:55:01,679So, so this 19 year old God itsays do wasn't desert. And I82500:55:01,679 --> 00:55:06,029said, and I flubbed it. I flubthe joke. And I said, you'd have82600:55:06,029 --> 00:55:14,669to rub it on me. And so the lookon his face when I said you have82700:55:14,669 --> 00:55:20,249to rub it on me, man. He went,why does this sheet thought, oh82800:55:20,249 --> 00:55:22,469my God, these are some sort ofthis is some sort of creepy82900:55:22,469 --> 00:55:26,279swinger couple or something. Hejust he just turned around83000:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,280and walked away. Yeah, that'sthe only appropriate response.83100:55:30,210 --> 00:55:34,590Then Then, when he brought methe check, like, he was like, an83200:55:34,590 --> 00:55:37,440effing ninja when he broughtthis check. I mean, I don't know83300:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,470how the check even appeared onour table. It was like he was I83400:55:40,470 --> 00:55:43,020mean, it's like he didn't evenwant to get close to us. That's83500:55:43,020 --> 00:55:48,000too funny, man. I forgot what Iwas even talking about.83600:55:48,030 --> 00:55:54,090I don't know. I'm looking atthese, these stats. And I83700:55:54,090 --> 00:55:59,460thought this was a great littlecolab. And I heard I heard Todd83800:55:59,460 --> 00:56:02,850and Rob talking about add, thestats are not useful. We need83900:56:02,850 --> 00:56:06,480them three 710 14 3060 days andneed them right away,84000:56:07,110 --> 00:56:08,880though. Yeah. Todd was not happywith my stats.84100:56:08,909 --> 00:56:15,569No, he was very demanding. Butnow I have a question because I84200:56:15,569 --> 00:56:19,139don't quite understand it. SoI'm looking at the JSON. I got84300:56:19,139 --> 00:56:22,229the feed count total episode.And now it has two categories84400:56:22,229 --> 00:56:26,699has feeds with new episodes.Three days and new episodes.84500:56:26,699 --> 00:56:28,529Three days. What is thedifference?84600:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,730Oh, where you're looking? You'relooking at the thing I posted?84700:56:32,760 --> 00:56:32,970Yeah,84800:56:32,970 --> 00:56:36,600the JSON? Daily counts dot JSON.84900:56:38,250 --> 00:56:42,120Yeah, which is, which isimmediately not not the right85000:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,140way to immediately a bad filename. Because it's not a daily85100:56:46,140 --> 00:56:48,420it's an hourly, so I've alreadyscrewed that up.85200:56:48,570 --> 00:56:50,850Well done. Thanks.85300:56:52,590 --> 00:56:54,270I'm trying to find the link so Ican even see85400:56:54,809 --> 00:57:00,539that podcast.index.org/daily_watch Why are85500:57:00,539 --> 00:57:01,409you laughing at me?85600:57:01,949 --> 00:57:04,739I'm just laughing because you'rehaving to tell me what I did.85700:57:07,530 --> 00:57:09,540It's okay. Slash85800:57:09,539 --> 00:57:11,729pockets and dinners dailyunderscore85900:57:12,510 --> 00:57:13,980count dot JSON.86000:57:16,139 --> 00:57:19,799So stupid. I don't even know myown files. Oh, yeah. Okay, sci86100:57:19,799 --> 00:57:23,339fi, total count episode counttotal. 100 16 million. That's a86200:57:23,339 --> 00:57:28,709lot. Feeds with new episodes.Okay, so feeds that have posted86300:57:28,709 --> 00:57:30,509a new episode within three days.86400:57:30,870 --> 00:57:33,870But what is new episodes, threedays? That's how86500:57:33,870 --> 00:57:36,600many new episodes have beenposted in the last three days86600:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,040total across the board.86700:57:38,099 --> 00:57:44,099Oh, okay. So oh, so in the lastthree days, it's pretty much86800:57:44,129 --> 00:57:47,849double the amount of episodes asthere are feeds with new86900:57:47,849 --> 00:57:50,819episodes, I saw that so manyfeeds would have more than one87000:57:50,819 --> 00:57:55,529episode. In the past three days.Okay, that's, well, that's very87100:57:55,529 --> 00:57:56,159interesting.87200:57:56,880 --> 00:58:02,790New episodes. So over the last90 days, there's been 5,685,33887300:58:02,790 --> 00:58:03,510New episodes,87400:58:03,540 --> 00:58:07,380right? A little bit over. So Ilike seven days, because that's,87500:58:07,410 --> 00:58:11,670that seems to be the biggest.That's a big number here. Just87600:58:11,670 --> 00:58:17,220makes sense. Because 10 days, itdrops off. So it feels like87700:58:18,060 --> 00:58:21,750there's probably too, I'm justgonna pick a number in between87800:58:21,750 --> 00:58:26,400this probably 250,000 podcaststhat update on a weekly basis87900:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,170that we're aware of. Does thatmake sense?88000:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,630Well, it should be right there.What's that number was? It was88100:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,83011,000. So yeah, 77. Yeah.That's your count right there88200:58:37,830 --> 00:58:40,380for a seven day period. That'show many shows have posted at88300:58:40,380 --> 00:58:43,530least one new episode. Andsomeone's88400:58:43,529 --> 00:58:45,929making a lot of money for thatbillion dollars that's flowing88500:58:45,929 --> 00:58:49,949around this business. Right?It's gotta be one guy in there.88600:58:49,949 --> 00:58:51,989One guy in there is making $900million.88700:58:53,820 --> 00:58:57,600That's a billion dollars dividedby 211,000. That's a lot of88800:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,860money. Which one is it?88900:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,320Yeah. Who are you guy?89000:59:04,199 --> 00:59:08,729Okay, so that's these numbers,man. It's so so doable to get in89100:59:08,729 --> 00:59:10,349there and get something done inthere?89200:59:11,909 --> 00:59:18,599I think so. I mean, three OSI338 to 5,685,338 episodes,89300:59:18,899 --> 00:59:28,499divided by 487,236 shows to overnine over 90 days. That's89400:59:28,559 --> 00:59:35,669averaging. Excuse me, that's 11New episodes per feed over a 9089500:59:35,669 --> 00:59:36,419day period.89600:59:38,159 --> 00:59:42,929So yeah, so a little more thanones like 1.7 1.4 A week or89700:59:42,929 --> 00:59:43,499something.89800:59:44,579 --> 00:59:47,879Yeah, feels like I don't knowwhat I what it feels like I find89900:59:49,409 --> 00:59:50,519I'm bored. Now. You90000:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,910know what it seems like it seemslike 18 years later, and this is90100:59:53,910 --> 00:59:56,310the amount of podcasts that arereally active and we still90200:59:56,310 --> 00:59:59,490haven't figured out how to doadvertising. Get a90300:59:59,490 --> 01:00:05,100clue Got feeds with valueblocks. 10,495 Yeah, this90401:00:05,099 --> 01:00:09,269is my favorite. This is myfavorite. My favorite number,90501:00:09,630 --> 01:00:13,440and then feeds with transcripts22,058.90601:00:13,500 --> 01:00:15,510Of which most of it Buzzsprout,I believe.90701:00:17,219 --> 01:00:19,829Yeah, I would pass a yes orhalf,90801:00:19,829 --> 01:00:23,309I think. Yeah, that's prettygood. That's pretty good. I like90901:00:23,309 --> 01:00:23,639that.91001:00:23,969 --> 01:00:26,039Look at the episode numbers,episodes or transcripts?91101:00:26,039 --> 01:00:32,429534,202. That's all me thisyear, at least a third of them?91201:00:33,719 --> 01:00:35,729A lot. But I think these91301:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,820are great numbers. I love that.No, I loved it. Don't change the91401:00:38,820 --> 01:00:42,450name to hourly or lose it. Theseare good numbers. I really never91501:00:42,450 --> 01:00:44,940find it in this updates. Let meguess every hour?91601:00:45,750 --> 01:00:48,660Yes. That's why it's calledDaily, because it updates every91701:00:48,660 --> 01:00:56,550hour. Okay, I'm gonna changethat name. But if we can just91801:00:56,580 --> 01:01:02,160add more stuff. So, you know,once you go down this rabbit91901:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,060hole, you can just stat all thethings so you know, like feeds92001:01:06,060 --> 01:01:12,720with fees with chapters. feedsthat are music, medium feeds and92101:01:12,720 --> 01:01:13,230podcast92201:01:13,470 --> 01:01:15,810follow up right there. How arewe doing with Slurpee?92301:01:17,969 --> 01:01:24,449We did a big import last week isnot called a slurp it did us a92401:01:24,449 --> 01:01:26,339spit as a slurping spit.92501:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,320Sure it wasn't a song, it wasjust a specific92601:01:29,039 --> 01:01:35,669topic. The I'm gonna have tolimit your 100% of retro time92701:01:35,669 --> 01:01:37,919before the show. This is thereason92801:01:37,919 --> 01:01:40,739why I say that makes you tospice and when I had my company92901:01:40,739 --> 01:01:45,749think new ideas. It was a bigcompany 700 people and so we had93001:01:45,749 --> 01:01:48,959put we put these processestogether to run. But you're93101:01:48,959 --> 01:01:51,989basically building websites, youknow, but for big companies,93201:01:51,989 --> 01:01:56,999Budweiser, Reebok, you know,stuff like this. And we would93301:01:57,029 --> 01:02:00,299and we it's kind of up to us, wecould create whatever we wanted,93401:02:00,479 --> 01:02:03,779within reason with the clientsign off and back end stuff. So93501:02:03,779 --> 01:02:06,599we had the system, which weliterally called the process.93601:02:06,929 --> 01:02:12,569And at the time staging andproduction, so you'd have client93701:02:12,569 --> 01:02:15,839services, who would be you know,on the staging server with the93801:02:15,839 --> 01:02:18,659client, the client checking itall making sure it's okay, good93901:02:18,929 --> 01:02:22,469or good. It can go to can go toproduction, and they literally94001:02:22,469 --> 01:02:26,819had a suck order. That's whatthey have stuck it over to send94101:02:26,819 --> 01:02:29,189it live. So that's where thatcomes from.94201:02:30,750 --> 01:02:32,190So you'd have to put in a circlewith a94301:02:32,250 --> 01:02:37,020quarter. Yes, exactly. You wantto know who devised the system?94401:02:38,099 --> 01:02:41,039Oh, yeah, that would have been100%. You people love94501:02:41,039 --> 01:02:41,939using it, though.94601:02:44,130 --> 01:02:49,440See? So I had this. I had this.Yeah, we're the meat, the music94701:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,320thing is going it's continuingto go as just takes forever.94801:02:52,980 --> 01:02:54,900Because yeah, don't analyze allthis stuff. And I don't want to94901:02:54,900 --> 01:02:58,560pay $900 a month for a GPUinstance on Linode.95001:02:59,219 --> 01:03:05,609No, no, no, but we have a man.Okay. So do we. Yeah, that would95101:03:05,609 --> 01:03:08,489be the one I'd love to see.Next. We'll have the harmony95201:03:08,489 --> 01:03:09,689news. Yeah.95301:03:10,710 --> 01:03:13,980Did we talk about that last weekabout the different search95401:03:13,980 --> 01:03:18,780endpoints that there are now soI don't think maybe, that people95501:03:18,780 --> 01:03:22,380can use now if you're for appdevelopers that want to index95601:03:22,410 --> 01:03:25,470they want to be able to searchmusic. There's a search, there's95701:03:25,470 --> 01:03:29,370more, you can search only musicpodcast. Now if you want to only95801:03:29,370 --> 01:03:33,270find, you know, music, musicstuff, you want to search within95901:03:33,270 --> 01:03:36,360music stuff, and it'll justreturn only podcasts that have96001:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,890been tagged with a music medium.96101:03:38,730 --> 01:03:41,910That's that's pretty powerful. Ilike that. Yes,96201:03:41,909 --> 01:03:43,439it needs me to use it. Well,96301:03:43,560 --> 01:03:49,830well, okay. It's, it's chickenin the egg, it's always going to96401:03:49,830 --> 01:03:53,490be that if we put on ourhomepage or on our stats page.96501:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,910This many feeds, you know, thatmusic enabled or whatever the96601:03:59,910 --> 01:04:03,360terminology is, and publishedthat people will start like, oh,96701:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,360that's just I can go to thevalue for Value tab and I can96801:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,870get the value for value podcast.You do it for music.96901:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,020And that'll get me reallyinterest rate or On Demand.97001:04:13,260 --> 01:04:13,710Right? Yeah.97101:04:13,710 --> 01:04:16,410And then Okay, so we'll justhave the traffic for now because97201:04:16,410 --> 01:04:18,900the only other thing the onlyother app that does music that97301:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,830I'm aware of is curio caster, sowe'll just we'll just keep that97401:04:22,860 --> 01:04:23,910we'll get that started.97501:04:24,990 --> 01:04:27,690Yeah, I thought about putting alittle proof of concept a little97601:04:27,690 --> 01:04:32,700demo app up that would just doOh, that's even better than just97701:04:32,700 --> 01:04:35,940a one single page Yeah, youknow, little nothing at that97801:04:35,970 --> 01:04:38,400that nobody's ever going to wantto use as their Yeah, just as97901:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,150your daily show a98001:04:39,150 --> 01:04:43,770different layout. And by theway, grand dukes or David Foley98101:04:45,360 --> 01:04:52,620is remaking the no agenda Rokuapp, which guess they upgraded98201:04:52,620 --> 01:04:57,330to the version 2.0 of thesparkle schnitzel, whatever,98301:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,550whatever code you have to usefor the if it's not schnitzel98401:05:02,550 --> 01:05:06,150sparkle 2.0 Then they took thatoff. So, you know, some some98501:05:06,150 --> 01:05:10,410great developer put thistogether years ago. So we got98601:05:10,410 --> 01:05:12,870taken down and we can't find theguy he hasn't, you know, we98701:05:12,870 --> 01:05:15,060don't know where he is. SoDavid's gonna make a new one.98801:05:15,210 --> 01:05:19,140And he knows how he has all the2.0 she Parkinsonism sparkle98901:05:19,140 --> 01:05:24,270stuff. And but he's I know he'slistening. He's also then going99001:05:24,270 --> 01:05:26,610to put a music thing in it'sgoing to be interesting because99101:05:26,610 --> 01:05:30,150the Rogan i It has audience, Igot people saying, what99201:05:30,150 --> 01:05:35,730happened? I always listened tothe Roku. It's weird, but yeah,99301:05:36,150 --> 01:05:36,480they're99401:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,460doing a great music podcast, theRoku app would be really cool.99501:05:42,210 --> 01:05:46,440Oh, yeah. It's like screamingfor this integration.99601:05:47,010 --> 01:05:49,740Oh, I would I would use I wouldactually use that a lot. Because99701:05:49,740 --> 01:05:53,310we we do that a lot here in thehouse. We take you know, we'll99801:05:53,310 --> 01:05:57,090use the Spotify app or Pandoraor something like that. Just99901:05:57,090 --> 01:05:59,340have music playing in thebackground. Yeah. Oh, I would100001:05:59,340 --> 01:06:00,150totally do that.100101:06:00,210 --> 01:06:05,730Well, you can also do it. All wewant is one for value for value,100201:06:05,730 --> 01:06:08,010though. And David's got to putthat in100301:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,640a note you mean I want to I wantto100401:06:11,639 --> 01:06:15,269see confetti spewing on my TVscreen from a Roku app. That's100501:06:15,269 --> 01:06:16,199what I want to see.100601:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,319Oh, you boost straight from theremote. I haven't able mocha.100701:06:19,770 --> 01:06:22,590Yeah, maybe you can do that. Idon't know might work.100801:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,650And then eventually we'll getthem to put a boost button on100901:06:25,650 --> 01:06:29,520the remote. No, you don't wantto sit on that.101001:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,960You're talking now you'retalking I like that idea.101101:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,199Ya know what you mean Ice Cubesoup about proof of concept101201:06:37,199 --> 01:06:42,119apps. But but if I'm making if Imake it crappy enough, nobody101301:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,869will want to want to do so. Ican solve that101401:06:45,869 --> 01:06:48,539problem. Wow, that's exciting.Can you also be also gonna put101501:06:48,539 --> 01:06:51,929it in this in the statssomewhere put the music feed.101601:06:51,959 --> 01:06:54,959Okay, let's do that. Let's drivewe got to drive demand. And once101701:06:54,959 --> 01:06:57,509you here's what happens.Everyone's sitting around101801:06:57,509 --> 01:07:01,589waiting for us to do a tape.Just how it works. Which means101901:07:01,589 --> 01:07:03,989we just got to do it. Whichmeans no which means you got to102001:07:03,989 --> 01:07:06,359do it. This is the problem.There's only one of you102101:07:08,039 --> 01:07:14,639know, that's how I started thenAlice rescues me and then and102201:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,739then we and then we have aproduct this is pretty this is102301:07:16,739 --> 01:07:17,879how this goes every time102401:07:19,050 --> 01:07:21,510well there's a lot of smartpeople out there who I'm sure102501:07:21,510 --> 01:07:25,740would love to help with sometime and talent. True. So we102601:07:25,740 --> 01:07:29,100thank a few people who have beenboosting us live it's been the102701:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,440numbers are big today.Something's going on something102801:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,070in the air.102901:07:32,670 --> 01:07:34,560Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, that'd begreat.103001:07:34,590 --> 01:07:38,700I'm not quite sure why butpeople are just oh wait yeah,103101:07:38,700 --> 01:07:43,200Bitcoin of course was Bitcoin.They're boosting. Boosting the103201:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,540dip is what they're doing chat Fp back a p bebchuk. There you103301:07:48,540 --> 01:07:52,950go. problem exists between chairand keyboard. That's that's what103401:07:52,950 --> 01:07:59,340we're looking for. That's 20,000SATs. Thank you Chad. 11,111103501:07:59,340 --> 01:08:03,030from na millennial. I wish Ireally wish someone would103601:08:03,030 --> 01:08:06,210automate the pod ping processwith a simple scripting language103701:08:06,210 --> 01:08:07,050like Python.103801:08:07,980 --> 01:08:12,990It has been there's an examplein the repo. You don't even need103901:08:12,990 --> 01:08:14,400Python. You can do it with104001:08:14,789 --> 01:08:18,479the command line or the shellscript shell script. Yeah. So104101:08:18,479 --> 01:08:27,989take that booster lujah booster.This is 111,111 Satoshis from104201:08:27,989 --> 01:08:34,289source D lit sticks Archie.Thank you very much 1212 from104301:08:34,289 --> 01:08:39,689tone wrecker. There's anothersource D with the same 111,111104401:08:39,689 --> 01:08:44,399Satoshis I think at this pointI'd call out 20 is Blaze only104501:08:44,399 --> 01:08:53,819Impala more sticks and says gopodcast go podcast now we have104601:08:53,849 --> 01:09:01,529100,000 SATs from Sam Sethistars star of many podcasts104701:09:03,149 --> 01:09:06,689including Sam talks tech that iswhat it's called104801:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,710yeah in star of many bucketsincluding ones that never104901:09:10,710 --> 01:09:11,700published an episode105001:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,330like the off the mic one whichwas off the mic had never even105101:09:15,330 --> 01:09:15,930published105201:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,380it was aborted before it waseven born Sam says I would105301:09:19,380 --> 01:09:19,710prefer105401:09:19,710 --> 01:09:23,160activity pub was defined as alistener to listener messaging105501:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,510protocol get slash post andbooster Graham's were defined as105601:09:27,510 --> 01:09:30,960a comment from listener tocreator Oh, that's an105701:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,440interesting point. But agreeadding Mastodon addresses to105801:09:34,440 --> 01:09:39,000hosts should be a no braineralso add rel equals me to105901:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,160profile for verification. Orinside of podcasts. txt or106001:09:44,160 --> 01:09:49,200podcast person tags. Yes, Ithink Sam was seeing how things106101:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,040are fitting together. Yeah. Ishe you know everyone's talking106201:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,720about his secret project.106301:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,920He's supposed to myunderstanding is they supposed106401:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,280to unveil say That secretproject at Podcast Movement106501:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,780evolutions like when I don'tknow when that is but it's I106601:10:06,780 --> 01:10:07,740think oh will106701:10:07,740 --> 01:10:12,090it be with like like a party anda DJ and drinks no106801:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,800booth babes I don't know106901:10:14,700 --> 01:10:16,980that we call that entertainmentit's107001:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,340that's where the billion dollarsin podcasting is going right107101:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,880Brando sellers 25,000 simple oldboost what we love that sorry107201:10:26,910 --> 01:10:32,280boost boost boost Brian ofLondon 1948 I hate to say but we107301:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,310could do everything we do onMastodon on the hive community.107401:10:35,310 --> 01:10:46,950Yeah Is there really? Yes if youget Dave Winer to set up a blog107501:10:46,980 --> 01:10:48,360on hive I will do it107601:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,050too. Right it will challenge107701:10:54,450 --> 01:11:02,130Okay, what else do we have herewe have the striper boost 70 777107801:11:02,130 --> 01:11:08,010from Pfeiffer booster bust, anda test boost from me. Oh, here's107901:11:09,210 --> 01:11:18,090Dobby das from RSS. blue.com.Yeah. 21,100 21,001 Thank you108001:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,480prime. Prime boost. There yougo. Thank you very much. Very108101:11:21,480 --> 01:11:34,440cool. Todd Cochran. Whoa,180,420 20 blades on I am Paula.108201:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,380So it's like code man.108301:11:37,860 --> 01:11:44,340This theory is proven. is provenfully. I mean, you You abused108401:11:44,340 --> 01:11:47,430how you talk shit about Todd andhe sends us 180,000 sets. I108501:11:47,430 --> 01:11:48,990mean, it's just this like, it'snot it's108601:11:49,499 --> 01:11:56,579not just 180 120 130,000 for 20Get it, though, just change to108701:11:56,579 --> 01:11:58,949get Alby because my nodecontinues to have routing108801:11:58,949 --> 01:12:02,519issues. But as Adam recommend,as Brad Adam recommended, I'm108901:12:02,519 --> 01:12:04,799going to try that for a whileDave. Looking forward to the new109001:12:04,799 --> 01:12:07,739pod ping enhancement. Thank youfor providing the stats output109101:12:07,739 --> 01:12:10,589we're looking for this is goingto prove to be very valuable.109201:12:10,589 --> 01:12:14,369Hence the nice Satoshi boosttoday. See this is that thank109301:12:14,369 --> 01:12:18,029you. That's value for value.Beautiful. Thank you very much.109401:12:18,329 --> 01:12:22,979Glad glad to do it, Todd andanybody else that needs I mean,109501:12:23,159 --> 01:12:27,359if you need stuff from the API,just ask. I will always do my109601:12:27,359 --> 01:12:28,259best to get it to you.109701:12:28,440 --> 01:12:31,950I think that's what we have.From the Live booster grams. I109801:12:31,950 --> 01:12:34,590think blueberry shows up on yoursheet. So you want to thank109901:12:34,650 --> 01:12:37,590these people in our value forvalue proposition which keeps110001:12:37,590 --> 01:12:41,730the entire shebang running,including $90 a month for110101:12:41,730 --> 01:12:46,380apparently. On house.110201:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,640We've got let's see. We got topay pals.110301:12:52,020 --> 01:12:54,630Fiat Fu and fun coupons arealways appreciated.110401:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,700One is from our buddy, FrancoCelerio from Casta Matic. Hey,110501:12:59,700 --> 01:13:07,710Franco decent 6969 Nice. He's hesays thank you, Adam, Dave, and110601:13:07,710 --> 01:13:11,010all the podcasting. 2.0 gang.Thank you, Franco,110701:13:11,100 --> 01:13:19,590Franco, Franco, man, let me giveyou some noise for that. 6969 He110801:13:19,590 --> 01:13:21,150didn't say it, but I know youwanted to hear it.110901:13:21,480 --> 01:13:27,720Oh, yeah, he wanted to $25 fromLowell. I'm going to try to say111001:13:27,750 --> 01:13:34,590his name. Lowell. brillant, b ri l l a n t e. Thank you. And111101:13:34,590 --> 01:13:36,480there's no note but thank you loreally111201:13:36,480 --> 01:13:37,650very much appreciate it.111301:13:40,290 --> 01:13:45,720We've got we've got lots ofbooster grams, but this is going111401:13:45,720 --> 01:13:50,490to be a challenge because I ambut it solved itself. It fixed111501:13:50,490 --> 01:13:52,350itself. My email wouldn't open.But now it's111601:13:52,620 --> 01:13:55,080oh, you know what, you knowwhat's gonna come next? We111701:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,930moved. just moments away fromthat. From that happening, we're111801:14:00,930 --> 01:14:01,650ready for you.111901:14:01,950 --> 01:14:04,710rebooted right before the show.So it's fine. It's not going to112001:14:04,710 --> 01:14:06,510do any isn't there's going to bezero problems.112101:14:06,540 --> 01:14:08,790I love the stability of yourLinux.112201:14:09,120 --> 01:14:15,450Yes. Chaos. 99 90,000. SAS tofountain Thank you. He says112301:14:15,450 --> 01:14:19,050boosting the NCAA discussion.We'll see now there you go. I112401:14:19,050 --> 01:14:23,040know it was boring. But we got anice boost for it was my112501:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,110discussion of the NCAA ofcollege football. I112601:14:25,110 --> 01:14:27,060didn't think that was boring.Did I say it was boring?112701:14:27,510 --> 01:14:30,360No. I said it was boring becauseI was boring. By the time I get112801:14:30,360 --> 01:14:31,290to the that's pretty112901:14:31,290 --> 01:14:33,930boring. If you're boringyourself. That is an issue.113001:14:34,470 --> 01:14:40,500Yeah. Thank you chaos 99appreciate that. Donkey gave us113101:14:40,500 --> 01:14:43,560100 SATs and this is below thelimit. But he says I was113201:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,710wondering if I could also put myfountain wallet address in the113301:14:46,710 --> 01:14:49,650Art Generator. Yeah. What do Ineed an ABI wallet which I don't113401:14:49,650 --> 01:14:50,940have. Yes, you can put that inthe wallet.113501:14:50,940 --> 01:14:56,130Yeah. If it's your username atfountain was@fountain.fm Then113601:14:56,130 --> 01:14:56,610that's fine.113701:14:57,150 --> 01:15:01,650I think so and you do this also.Answer CSBs question because he113801:15:01,650 --> 01:15:05,310was asking about whether or notyou could whether or not there113901:15:05,310 --> 01:15:08,730was a you could also use otherwallets besides lbu using the114001:15:08,730 --> 01:15:10,980landing address format inFountain is one of114101:15:10,980 --> 01:15:13,020those well, as long as it hasit, yeah.114201:15:14,460 --> 01:15:16,530As long as a wallet exists,well,114301:15:16,530 --> 01:15:20,490as long as it has the known URL,thingamabob setup.114401:15:21,300 --> 01:15:22,470I think it does. Yeah, no, it114501:15:22,470 --> 01:15:25,200has your Yeah, it has to Yeah.Because that's how I look up.114601:15:25,350 --> 01:15:26,760You know, the custom key.114701:15:27,780 --> 01:15:32,160Yeah. Gene Everett 3333. And hesays, boost114801:15:35,100 --> 01:15:35,820give me this one.114901:15:37,980 --> 01:15:44,220Sorry. That's no good behindyou. Yes. Up in 1984. Sin is115001:15:44,220 --> 01:15:47,8803000 SATs and he says, toclarify on my boost about115101:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,910financial ramifications, thetags discussion gave me an idea115201:15:51,180 --> 01:15:53,130to avoid those financialramifications through115301:15:53,130 --> 01:15:56,760automation. Human error iscurrently costing the company115401:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,080Fiat fun coupons in this ideawould reduce those errors. Also,115501:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,440the idea has maybe a 10% chanceof being implemented but there's115601:16:04,440 --> 01:16:08,340an r&d position opening up soonso I'm trying to get on115701:16:08,340 --> 01:16:12,630management's radar ahead of thecompetition. booths, very small115801:16:12,630 --> 01:16:18,540card. Mere Mortals podcast orbuddy Karen big real estate's115901:16:18,540 --> 01:16:22,47011 111 through fountain and hesays Good riddance to all the116001:16:22,470 --> 01:16:32,820good jokes. Yeah, dabba doobows, the Bozak send us 1500116101:16:32,820 --> 01:16:37,440says through fountain No, no,thank you. Oh, here, we gotta116201:16:37,440 --> 01:16:43,080gotta read this one. It's 777 sbelow the limit. He says Venom's116301:16:43,110 --> 01:16:46,230black metal album was one of myfavorites back in junior high.116401:16:46,260 --> 01:16:53,070Thanks for the nostalgic moment.Great. Franco Celerio also sent116501:16:53,070 --> 01:16:59,880us 6969 SATs. Whoa, whoa. Andwhat else would he use besides116601:17:00,090 --> 01:17:04,230CAC asthmatic goes to grams, thelatest two booster grants by116701:17:04,230 --> 01:17:07,290Franco Celerio. The ones withouta message were not set by me.116801:17:07,620 --> 01:17:10,560Either a rogue AI has takencontrol of cast ematic and began116901:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,740sending SATs on his own will,during my debug sessions, or117001:17:13,740 --> 01:17:16,380somebody is impersonating me andsending his own money in my117101:17:16,380 --> 01:17:17,850name. No complaints.117201:17:17,879 --> 01:17:19,769V. O S. T.117301:17:25,980 --> 01:17:27,360Bag. Yeah, I'm trying117401:17:27,959 --> 01:17:33,869Karen Karen's back with another111 111 He says unjustified117501:17:33,869 --> 01:17:35,969confidence is actually waybetter than justified117601:17:35,969 --> 01:17:39,509insecurity, you'll live a betterlife like that. Even if you get117701:17:39,509 --> 01:17:44,129yourself into a bit moretrouble. I have, I can't argue117801:17:44,129 --> 01:17:50,099with that at all. On that, whenit comes to justified belief,117901:17:50,639 --> 01:17:55,079there's a very good book byAlvin Plantinga, called warrant118001:17:55,079 --> 01:17:59,129and proper function. I wouldhighly suggest it if anybody can118101:17:59,129 --> 01:18:03,809get there. And what's it about?It's about why is the118201:18:03,809 --> 01:18:06,869philosophical foundations forbeing confident in a belief118301:18:07,769 --> 01:18:14,489irrespective of how you get toirrespective of of the quality118401:18:14,489 --> 01:18:21,059of the proof. So you can believehow can we know say how can we118501:18:21,059 --> 01:18:26,159have confidence that the thingswe believe are true in the in118601:18:26,159 --> 01:18:32,009the capital T sense, even ifthey are things that don't have118701:18:32,009 --> 01:18:34,259that sort of empirical truthabout them?118801:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,770Sounds like a page turner.118901:18:40,230 --> 01:18:43,620Yeah, if you're intoepistemology, it will definitely119001:18:43,620 --> 01:18:50,910be Karen again, he's tripledipping to 22 to 22 through119101:18:50,910 --> 01:18:54,750curio caster, and he says, Iwatched the FTX debacle on many119201:18:54,750 --> 01:18:58,050different crypto podcasts andvideos and came away with a new119301:18:58,050 --> 01:19:03,480takeaway. Many of them had beensponsored by FTX. backpedaling119401:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,840embarrassment. Yeah. So theadvertisement model isn't just119501:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,710since aureus, but also can thecast unpleasant reflections of119601:19:10,710 --> 01:19:14,640association. And then midwaythrough, they would start119701:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,480talking about their sponsorcrypto.com or Nexo or another119801:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,340custodial exchange. Yeah.119901:19:22,260 --> 01:19:25,950I learned something just as asdata continues to come in, which120001:19:25,950 --> 01:19:29,100I thought was interesting, whichmay help us understand a little120101:19:29,100 --> 01:19:33,600bit about the the reason why itcould get out of hand like this.120201:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,120And all these so calledsophisticated people had not120301:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,960really seen that there was noregulatory oversight. Turns out,120401:19:40,050 --> 01:19:44,580they spent about $2 billion onacquiring companies or pieces of120501:19:44,580 --> 01:19:48,810companies that already hadregulatory approval. They even120601:19:48,810 --> 01:19:52,830had a heading forwards calledregulatory acquisitions. So they120701:19:52,830 --> 01:19:55,650were starting to pick up bitsand pieces of regulatory120801:19:55,650 --> 01:20:00,210approval by buying into or ofwholly acquiring company needs120901:20:00,210 --> 01:20:04,080that had some form or someversion of it and I can totally121001:20:04,080 --> 01:20:09,150see Sequoia Capital going hey,you know we spend this money but121101:20:09,150 --> 01:20:11,850these guys are rolling up theit's gonna take forever to get121201:20:11,850 --> 01:20:15,210regulation but with these guysare rolling it up into one ball121301:20:15,210 --> 01:20:18,900there'll be the do whatever theywant something like that. So121401:20:18,930 --> 01:20:22,140if you're buying your way intothe system rather than building121501:20:22,140 --> 01:20:22,320it,121601:20:22,379 --> 01:20:25,769but basically the reason why noone caught it is because it's121701:20:25,769 --> 01:20:29,249the same way Wall Street. Thisis the same way everywhere. It's121801:20:29,249 --> 01:20:30,059all corrupt.121901:20:30,630 --> 01:20:37,290Did you did you read? Theinitial is the guy that's the122001:20:37,290 --> 01:20:40,110inner this the caretaker CEOright now that's doing all the122101:20:40,110 --> 01:20:40,620auditing?122201:20:40,650 --> 01:20:44,730Yeah, I know. He's the guy thatthat stepped in for Enron.122301:20:44,790 --> 01:20:47,550Ron. Yeah. That to me,122401:20:47,850 --> 01:20:54,300says cover up. That guy that guywas pulled in within seconds.122501:20:54,870 --> 01:20:58,290Oh, I wouldn't say though heblasted it from top to bottom.122601:20:58,860 --> 01:21:03,270Makes me feel even more certainhe's covering up something. He's122701:21:03,270 --> 01:21:05,430gonna put the blame where theblame has to go.122801:21:06,030 --> 01:21:09,180Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. Alot of people did122901:21:09,180 --> 01:21:13,530not go to jail in the Enronthing. Some people die in jail.123001:21:13,620 --> 01:21:16,650He's there to clean it. He's thefees the cleanup guy.123101:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,420He's the hatchet man.123201:21:18,450 --> 01:21:21,120No, he's clean. Oh, no, no, he'sthe cleanup. Yeah, he's cleaning123301:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,290up the bodies. Yeah, he'srolling stuff up in carpets.123401:21:25,860 --> 01:21:27,990He's chopping chopping limbs.123501:21:28,110 --> 01:21:33,690What he says when he points thething, his his humongous finger123601:21:33,750 --> 01:21:37,830Aha. Is point gets pointed inthe directions that it needs to123701:21:37,830 --> 01:21:40,830be pointed at. In order for theparade. It doesn't get pointed123801:21:40,830 --> 01:21:43,830that to not have to endure anyreal talent have any123901:21:43,830 --> 01:21:47,280connection to the DemocraticParty. We can't have any elite124001:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,720connections. We will throwcelebrities under the bus. So124101:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,950you know Tom Brady, you know, onand on and on. That's the124201:21:55,950 --> 01:21:58,170distraction. That's what all thenews reports are.124301:21:58,650 --> 01:22:02,550Oh, yeah. And it's. And then onthe other side, you have Mitch124401:22:02,580 --> 01:22:05,550like Mitch McConnell takingdonations from for his124501:22:05,550 --> 01:22:09,030leadership campaign. It's allall over the place.124601:22:09,030 --> 01:22:12,600But it's so beautiful becausethis this entire sham which was124701:22:12,600 --> 01:22:17,490basically run by PR and peoplebuying into the PR is now being124801:22:17,490 --> 01:22:21,330cleaned and covered up by the PRof Oh, geez. Did you hear what124901:22:21,330 --> 01:22:24,630the guys sorry to make you sounddumb? Did you hear what the guy125001:22:24,630 --> 01:22:27,840said? He was from Enron. It wasall a mess. You didn't say it125101:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,140like that. But that's the trick.That's the trick is that yeah,125201:22:31,140 --> 01:22:31,500you did.125301:22:31,710 --> 01:22:33,090That's the way I sounded tomyself.125401:22:33,750 --> 01:22:34,800That's the trick.125501:22:36,180 --> 01:22:39,660That he got me It sucked me in.Yeah,125601:22:39,900 --> 01:22:42,540it's just practice. That's theonly reason and you know what125701:22:42,540 --> 01:22:45,480I'm doing a little bit of a diveon the guy. See what's going on.125801:22:47,910 --> 01:22:48,900Thank you, Karen125901:22:49,740 --> 01:22:53,370Kyron. Thanks for getting us on.That. was all about126001:22:54,420 --> 01:22:59,85012345. From SLC through fountainit says Argyle Park. Christian,126101:22:59,970 --> 01:23:06,750Christian NISC industrial metaltechno. Okay. All right, Argyle126201:23:06,750 --> 01:23:10,170Park. Arg Wiley. Haven't heardof him, but I'll give him a126301:23:10,170 --> 01:23:16,590check. SLC again. 12345 Bluewallet got me my first K and C126401:23:16,590 --> 01:23:21,420box. Oh, nice. Man burgers forthe fam. The keeper needs time126501:23:21,420 --> 01:23:23,520to get used to grass fed beefcasting.126601:23:25,890 --> 01:23:27,270You finish your ground beef.126701:23:27,959 --> 01:23:32,639I've got one package left I'vebeen doing. I've been eating a126801:23:32,639 --> 01:23:35,669hamburger at nine o'clock in themorning every morning for less.126901:23:36,240 --> 01:23:36,990How you feel?127001:23:38,130 --> 01:23:40,770I'm feeling good. I thinkdifferent windows made a big127101:23:40,770 --> 01:23:41,280difference. Do127201:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,480you think you think it has madea difference? For your next127301:23:45,480 --> 01:23:48,600order if I just try somethingdifferent? Okay, if I can127401:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,750recommend holy cow beef, holycow. They're in Lubbock, Texas.127501:23:52,140 --> 01:23:56,010And they said you can buy theprimal ground beef from them.127601:23:56,670 --> 01:24:01,020And that is ground beef, but itincludes heart liver, the ground127701:24:01,020 --> 01:24:04,650up all the good stuff in there,as well with organ meats. Yes.127801:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,170And we tried some the other day.We were both like, Oh, do you127901:24:07,170 --> 01:24:10,740have to hold our nose? Nuts.It's just beautiful. You don't128001:24:10,740 --> 01:24:16,260take this? No. I mean, don't eatit raw. But but there's no128101:24:16,260 --> 01:24:20,670there's no real weird taste orsmell or anything like that. And128201:24:20,730 --> 01:24:22,830okay, both are really good aftereating it.128301:24:23,490 --> 01:24:26,340Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely dothat. Alright, thanks. Cool.128401:24:26,340 --> 01:24:26,700That's that's128501:24:26,700 --> 01:24:29,580for that's for the next one. Andit's a different flavor profile.128601:24:29,580 --> 01:24:32,520You know, they have differentcows. It'll be fun to try it.128701:24:32,820 --> 01:24:37,320It's a little more it's probablya little more irony is a little128801:24:37,320 --> 01:24:38,700bit more of a livery type128901:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,870flavor to Tina. I know Tina mademade taco meat with it. And it129001:24:42,870 --> 01:24:46,920was just like great taco meat.Oh, sweet. It was spicy because129101:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,820she spiced it but you know, itwas like, huh, tastes like spicy129201:24:50,820 --> 01:24:55,680shit liver. No, I didn't havethat. But not at all.129301:24:56,160 --> 01:25:02,070Anonymous 22 to 22 Thank youanonymous no note 250 SATs from129401:25:02,250 --> 01:25:04,920Linda's gone it says we129501:25:10,290 --> 01:25:13,770David 1000 SATs first boostbeginning129601:25:14,910 --> 01:25:16,050welcome booster129701:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,9203333 from Captain egg head nonote from pod first thank you129801:25:21,150 --> 01:25:27,7506969 sets from Hey citizen podfirst app. He says the molested129901:25:27,750 --> 01:25:33,030podcast indicates on the dollwhere the insertion Stop. Stop130001:25:33,060 --> 01:25:34,050really?130101:25:37,500 --> 01:25:43,350See blind apes in this HunterSAS. Oh, that's um I'm getting130201:25:43,350 --> 01:25:45,720all out of whack here becauseI'm reading I'm reading130301:25:45,930 --> 01:25:50,100I'll say What are you reading?What are you doing?130401:25:50,970 --> 01:25:54,270I got out I got my email out oforder. Oh there it is. Okay, I'm130501:25:54,270 --> 01:25:58,260back. 10,000 SATs from Sir dugin he just says boost130601:25:59,340 --> 01:26:01,020boost boost130701:26:01,140 --> 01:26:06,150floydian slips in his 5000 SATsthrough curio caster and130801:26:06,150 --> 01:26:13,950flooding slip says hugs andkisses. Oh let's see. Comic130901:26:13,950 --> 01:26:17,040Strip blogger. Oh, you knowwhat? Comic Strip blogger? The131001:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,850Illuminati. He's Yeah, but hemessed me up because he changed131101:26:20,850 --> 01:26:21,570his boost amount.131201:26:22,260 --> 01:26:23,940That's why he's boosting the dipfor us.131301:26:24,090 --> 01:26:26,550He's boosting the dip. Yes, I'mgonna come back to comic strip131401:26:26,550 --> 01:26:32,370blog. Okay. Brown of London andhave the EO 59,913 SAS and I131501:26:32,370 --> 01:26:37,800says it every Rose has its Thornjust like every night has his131601:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,410Dawn Oh, that's who was as131701:26:41,070 --> 01:26:45,180warrant Well, no, no point noit's poison poison poison every131801:26:45,180 --> 01:26:52,830rose every Rose has a storm songevery cow of all things the131901:26:52,830 --> 01:26:59,580same. Oh song. I love I love itwhen that delay kicks in and132001:26:59,580 --> 01:27:03,270we're singing if you if someoneasked us to sing that way you132101:27:03,270 --> 01:27:03,930couldn't do it.132201:27:05,730 --> 01:27:07,530The Jerry's kid podcast No,because you're132301:27:07,530 --> 01:27:10,620exactly right behind me where itstill works a synth Copic132401:27:11,220 --> 01:27:15,540Oh, beautiful. It says thebeauty of clean feed. It is132501:27:15,540 --> 01:27:21,990blueberry 33 333 Yay. From theboost CLI. He says On last132601:27:21,990 --> 01:27:28,740week's mystery index listingpodcast ID 5793896. Recently, I132701:27:28,740 --> 01:27:32,130discovered that you can view theRSS feeds for Mastodon profiles.132801:27:32,490 --> 01:27:35,250There was only one logicalquestion to ask can I list a132901:27:35,250 --> 01:27:39,090mastodon feed in the index?Setting out like a lead cast in133001:27:39,090 --> 01:27:45,570a turn to Tarantino film? Aboutwhat don't know what he's133101:27:45,570 --> 01:27:50,280saying. Setting out like a leadcast in a Tarantino film about133201:27:50,280 --> 01:27:56,730skits or NCIS Oh, I lost meboobie. I was right there with133301:27:56,730 --> 01:27:57,240you brother.133401:27:57,510 --> 01:28:03,600He loves the end No, you know ifno if a mastodon feed magically133501:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,950has an enclosure you can133601:28:07,230 --> 01:28:09,180do they have enclosures I don't133701:28:09,180 --> 01:28:13,530believe so. Oh, interesting.133801:28:13,590 --> 01:28:17,610Interesting or do they just haveHTML? I bet they just let me133901:28:17,610 --> 01:28:22,530check right now podcast indexdot socialist grinding we're in134001:28:22,530 --> 01:28:24,540our galaxy level of service.134101:28:25,770 --> 01:28:27,720We are Galaxy level we are134201:28:27,990 --> 01:28:31,170we are the Galaxy levels I justdo wait I've got a follow up134301:28:31,170 --> 01:28:34,740note from him I've got to followOh Second Part Part Two the134401:28:34,740 --> 01:28:37,710booster Graham the boosterGraham got cut off and he says134501:28:38,850 --> 01:28:42,360sitting out with a lead cast ina Tarantino film about scissors134601:28:42,540 --> 01:28:46,500a pulled the BTS feed up inhacked away combining info134701:28:46,500 --> 01:28:49,590format from both feeds thishomemade one looks like feta134801:28:49,590 --> 01:28:53,010means monster not a joke. I waseventually able to make the134901:28:53,010 --> 01:28:57,090index list public posts, indexlist public posts from my135001:28:57,090 --> 01:29:00,720account. What I found is you cantoot mp3 on Macedon and have135101:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,020those appear in the index withenough nudging does producing a135201:29:04,020 --> 01:29:09,990boost double toot. Oh, is thatis that true?135301:29:10,620 --> 01:29:13,230I don't know. But I'll tell youthat what I'm learning here is135401:29:13,230 --> 01:29:20,850that podcast index dot socialRSS feeds are version 2.0. And135501:29:20,850 --> 01:29:27,570they declare the Yahoo media RSSnamespace135601:29:29,310 --> 01:29:31,380they should be declaring thepodcasts namespace135701:29:31,589 --> 01:29:33,779well it's yes of course theyshould.135801:29:34,650 --> 01:29:38,250Well I don't know exactly whathe's what black voodoo he is135901:29:38,250 --> 01:29:46,740doing. But he for sure as gottenToots to show up as episodes in136001:29:46,740 --> 01:29:50,970the index. What I don'tunderstand136101:29:51,510 --> 01:29:56,370Ah wait on that on that thatindex ID136201:29:56,940 --> 01:30:01,020Yeah, just posted it in the inthe chat in the In the chat room136301:30:01,590 --> 01:30:07,890that's the that's 57938960 Look136401:30:07,890 --> 01:30:08,400at that136501:30:10,349 --> 01:30:14,849I don't understand what he'sdoing here get spooky going136601:30:14,849 --> 01:30:17,279around these here parts136701:30:20,520 --> 01:30:27,300so that's that's what plays mebitch. Oh crap that's136801:30:27,300 --> 01:30:31,650interesting so he has twoepisodes. The first two episodes136901:30:31,650 --> 01:30:35,490there's something spoken goingand then it goes to spooked out137001:30:35,490 --> 01:30:36,420social137101:30:37,770 --> 01:30:40,680look looks like he's embeddedsomething if I follow the137201:30:40,860 --> 01:30:43,110mastodon Linko spook does social137301:30:45,090 --> 01:30:48,750oh well he uploaded audio welllet me take a look at this RSS137401:30:48,750 --> 01:30:53,850feed is just crazy. When that'dbe nuts if you can tell this137501:30:53,850 --> 01:30:56,730page is not available. Okay, sohe's hacked something137601:30:57,090 --> 01:30:58,650nonstandard, I guess.137701:30:58,860 --> 01:31:04,110www dot feed up behind theschemes.com/bb fi dot XML137801:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,960Yeah, that's not as Mastodonfeed.137901:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,560We're gonna have to we're gonnahave to figure something out138001:31:10,560 --> 01:31:11,130here.138101:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,460I don't know also, yeah, I don'tI don't see these posts on his138201:31:17,610 --> 01:31:19,020Mastodon per se.138301:31:20,010 --> 01:31:28,260All right, Bouverie code or itdidn't happen. Let's see. See138401:31:28,470 --> 01:31:35,310Bouverie again. 80,000 Oh, eightbig boob donation he says the138501:31:35,310 --> 01:31:38,820podcast index boosted throughthe podcast index website.138601:31:38,850 --> 01:31:41,070That's a massive boob donation.138701:31:42,030 --> 01:31:47,07080,000 Oh, that's I feel likethat's a big baller shot caller138801:31:47,070 --> 01:31:52,59020 is blades on I am Paula.That's a double D boost. This138901:31:52,590 --> 01:31:56,670past Monday we played a game ofchess on air for BTS the next139001:31:56,670 --> 01:32:00,210day I took the video recordingof the match massage did and139101:32:00,210 --> 01:32:02,400produced a 45 minute GIF of thegame139201:32:07,650 --> 01:32:11,910man madman you are a totalmadman. Slide that bad boy into139301:32:11,910 --> 01:32:14,790your chapters when the gamestarts and boom, you get real139401:32:14,790 --> 01:32:18,870time ish playback of chess in anude podcast app. This goes out139501:32:18,870 --> 01:32:22,110the window if you skip around orlisten at a faster rate.139601:32:23,130 --> 01:32:26,520There's another link here sohe's jacked this on pod verse oh139701:32:26,520 --> 01:32:32,730man, can I love this this isthis is oh there it is. Okay, so139801:32:32,730 --> 01:32:36,210if I hit this was not able toprepare Okay, so then I should139901:32:36,210 --> 01:32:41,370see this in the chapter and itshould be my only logical cause140001:32:41,730 --> 01:32:45,000to this shouldn't I see thechapters here somewhere? A140101:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,080chapter here we go.140201:32:47,310 --> 01:32:50,340This is not just scissors thisis way beyond scissors this is140301:32:50,340 --> 01:32:50,850like hedge140401:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,810hedge hedge hedge cutters orwhatever you clip oh my goodness140501:32:54,810 --> 01:32:58,440yes I see it you got a big140601:32:58,440 --> 01:33:04,560is a 45 minutes that's got to belike a 300 meg GIF.140701:33:05,100 --> 01:33:11,340I don't know can I save imageyeah BTS chapter chess long was140801:33:11,340 --> 01:33:14,190take a look. I'll tell you howbig it is140901:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,830I hope people actually enjoy usdoing dumb stuff. Six mags not141001:33:22,830 --> 01:33:29,400too bad it must be Jeff Jeffchest Jeff141101:33:29,820 --> 01:33:32,520is just about 120 it's141201:33:32,879 --> 01:33:38,279it's a standard size chest Wow,that's a new one for me.141301:33:39,270 --> 01:33:41,550All right. You're a madman141401:33:41,580 --> 01:33:44,550one of the one of these dayspeople figure out the incredible141501:33:44,550 --> 01:33:51,270utility of of the chapter imageslinks all of it. Follow up for141601:33:51,270 --> 01:33:54,450your advertisers even if youwant people come on get it141701:33:54,450 --> 01:33:55,710together. We'll be the141801:33:55,830 --> 01:34:00,660one we're giving you the toolsto go fish, comic strip blogger141901:34:00,660 --> 01:34:03,600the delimiter 33,015. Sets Yeah.142001:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,610This is David Adam. May you andyour listeners be invited to142101:34:14,610 --> 01:34:17,640embrace the unavoidable FourthIndustrial Revolution by putting142201:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,000an AI dot cooking into your webbrowsers or podcast apps142301:34:21,210 --> 01:34:23,940featuring multiple articlescharting the AI revolution,142401:34:24,090 --> 01:34:27,630knowledge and history corners,all covered by former crypto day142501:34:27,630 --> 01:34:31,530trader and to time parentsGregory Forman, yo.142601:34:33,660 --> 01:34:37,830Thank you so much composterblogger. Well done. Thank you142701:34:37,830 --> 01:34:42,210all, though you have monthlieswhat do we have monthly? Okay,142801:34:42,210 --> 01:34:42,990monthlies.142901:34:43,860 --> 01:34:50,520Sir Ali's gates night of thepodcasting 2.0. Project $25 The143001:34:50,550 --> 01:34:55,830one and only night I might add afocus very much. Jeremy Kevin on143101:34:55,830 --> 01:35:00,510$10 Chris cow and $5 JeffreyRutherford $5. was Derek143201:35:00,510 --> 01:35:05,670Vickery, Derek J Vickery. Thatis $21 David Norman. newly143301:35:05,670 --> 01:35:06,450resurrected143401:35:06,480 --> 01:35:09,300David back and he's a Texan NowI understand.143501:35:09,480 --> 01:35:14,850He is He portals, he teleportedto your state. $25 Thank you,143601:35:14,850 --> 01:35:19,110David. Thanks, David. DaymondCassie Jack $15 Jeremy Garrett's143701:35:19,110 --> 01:35:23,610$5 Timothy Hudgens. My buddy. SoI'm last night at a school143801:35:23,610 --> 01:35:28,500thing. $25 in David Wood, fine.$3. That's our group.143901:35:28,530 --> 01:35:32,280Thank you all so much forsupporting the podcast and 2.0144001:35:32,310 --> 01:35:35,430podcast projects, keeping themachines whirring, keeping144101:35:35,430 --> 01:35:38,580everything running, keepingSlurpee sucking all the stuff144201:35:38,580 --> 01:35:42,180that needs to happen. Time towntreasurer, all of it is very144301:35:42,180 --> 01:35:45,210much appreciated podcastindex.org at the bottom, you can144401:35:45,210 --> 01:35:49,320find a link to the Pay Pal foryour fun, Fiat fun coupons. And144501:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,230of course, we'd like you to getan app that has a boost button.144601:35:52,620 --> 01:35:56,310Thanks, James. I'm stealing thatfrom you. If yours doesn't go to144701:35:56,310 --> 01:36:00,720new podcast apps.com or theultra cool version, nude podcast144801:36:00,720 --> 01:36:04,470apps.com Get yourself an appthat boosts and boosts us to144901:36:04,470 --> 01:36:08,100your heart's delight, especiallyduring the dip. Thank you. Thank145001:36:08,100 --> 01:36:14,100you for supporting us very, verymuch. Now I gotta keep you on145101:36:14,100 --> 01:36:18,090time. So if you want to start anargument, then now's the time.145201:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,760Go I gotta I gotta get you backto the office. Man. You're busy,145301:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,790busy. When does this end? Wemiss you145401:36:27,150 --> 01:36:30,480know, I'm, I'm off the rest ofthe day. Oh, the rest of the145501:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,350day. Oh,145601:36:31,350 --> 01:36:32,370okay. I thought you started.145701:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,610We started late. But we got. Wegot? No, I145801:36:35,610 --> 01:36:38,190thought you had to go late. Oryou had to go back to the145901:36:38,190 --> 01:36:38,760office?146001:36:39,090 --> 01:36:41,820No, man, I'm good to go fortoday. I'm not and I'm off next146101:36:41,820 --> 01:36:45,180week for the Thanksgiving. WhichWhich brings up a point. Well,146201:36:45,180 --> 01:36:47,070we're both not be having a shownext week. Yeah, we146301:36:47,070 --> 01:36:51,060will not be having a show forthe Thanksgiving festivities.146401:36:51,330 --> 01:36:55,110Quite honestly, I don't know ofany corporation anywhere that146501:36:55,110 --> 01:37:02,130has a board meeting betweenbasically on Black Friday. Yeah,146601:37:02,220 --> 01:37:05,880so So yes, there'll be no boardbig now. What's interesting is146701:37:05,880 --> 01:37:10,590the week after that, I hope tobe able to conduct a board146801:37:10,590 --> 01:37:10,920meeting.146901:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,300I think we can and I think it'sgoing to be similar thing to147001:37:15,300 --> 01:37:18,660today. I've got to do apresentation, a actually a147101:37:18,660 --> 01:37:24,120Bitcoin presentation for a bunchof lawyers. So it's like a CPE147201:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,540thing for them. And so I'm gonnado I'm gonna do that. And147301:37:27,540 --> 01:37:31,170that's, that's it like 11o'clock. So I shouldn't be in147401:37:31,170 --> 01:37:33,180and then just going to take therest of the day off after that.147501:37:33,180 --> 01:37:37,440So I'll be should be able to hitthe show around two o'clock, I147601:37:37,440 --> 01:37:37,830think147701:37:37,890 --> 01:37:40,290and that is Friday the 25th.147801:37:42,990 --> 01:37:44,730No, that's no idea. The second147901:37:44,790 --> 01:37:50,760Okay, so the second so here'sthe thing. I may not be capable148001:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,640of doing the show. Becauseyou're having your mouth surgery148101:37:53,640 --> 01:37:59,190that way. On Tuesday. Yeah. Sowe're thinking it should not be148201:37:59,190 --> 01:38:02,280a problem. But let's just knowthat we might have to do it148301:38:02,280 --> 01:38:02,910Saturday.148401:38:03,570 --> 01:38:06,810Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'lljust play it by ear as you feel148501:38:06,840 --> 01:38:07,950you know, based on your health.148601:38:08,070 --> 01:38:10,050It's just if I can talk that'sall148701:38:11,670 --> 01:38:12,840you can be so goals.148801:38:14,910 --> 01:38:22,320Oh. I am so anxious about it.Like are you nervous? Or never148901:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,200I've never been knocked out.I've never had an issue. I'm149001:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,330more nervous about theanesthesia than about the149101:38:27,330 --> 01:38:30,750procedure. And then I know whatthe procedure is done then I149201:38:30,750 --> 01:38:36,120just know you know, it's aprocess temporaries I have a149301:38:36,120 --> 01:38:40,140bone marrow transplant becauseof bone loss. So that has to149401:38:40,140 --> 01:38:46,140heal. So that takes two threemonths, then the actual implants149501:38:46,140 --> 01:38:50,400come. So it's just a I feelsorry149601:38:50,400 --> 01:38:50,970for you brother.149701:38:51,000 --> 01:38:55,260No, I appreciate it. But Ishould have done this. Honestly149801:38:55,260 --> 01:38:59,580is eight nine years ago I shouldhave this is just hey, you know149901:38:59,580 --> 01:39:03,210some people got a weak heart. Myhead's falling apart. We're150001:39:03,210 --> 01:39:11,310gonna everyone's got somethingthis is me. This is this is my150101:39:11,310 --> 01:39:16,620thing. This is my mechanical andmouth mouth stuff. But it's150201:39:16,620 --> 01:39:19,050important that's what I have todo it because it's so important150301:39:19,050 --> 01:39:22,740for your overall health. It isreally affects your health in150401:39:22,740 --> 01:39:23,730crazy ways.150501:39:24,450 --> 01:39:28,230Now you're you're thinking youwere told by the mother dental150601:39:28,230 --> 01:39:30,660surgeon that this is going tohelp your sinuses too, right.150701:39:30,660 --> 01:39:31,050Yeah,150801:39:31,290 --> 01:39:36,510I've I've had we couldn't figureout why I was so allergic after150901:39:36,540 --> 01:39:39,450never having that in my life andthen moving to Texas and it was151001:39:39,450 --> 01:39:42,510kind of coincidental. But yeah,I've had this, this low level151101:39:42,510 --> 01:39:46,350kind of infection up near myupper molars and they have been151201:39:46,350 --> 01:39:48,540just whenever I eat, which Ialways thought oh, I'm going to151301:39:48,540 --> 01:39:51,150restaurant in Austin boy. Oh,there it is. I've got the151401:39:51,150 --> 01:39:52,350allergy again. No,151501:39:52,710 --> 01:39:56,790I'm chewing. Oh, and that'sreleasing the Yes. And that151601:39:56,790 --> 01:39:57,180sends it151701:39:57,180 --> 01:40:00,210off and then you know then thesinuses start flowing. Then151801:40:00,210 --> 01:40:00,660you're done.151901:40:01,230 --> 01:40:06,600That's amazing. It's crazy howthat we always look for things152001:40:06,630 --> 01:40:11,280we look for. What are you gonnacut like causation? For152101:40:11,280 --> 01:40:16,590correlate? You know, we're like,Oh, yeah. For years. Yeah, it152201:40:16,590 --> 01:40:19,560makes so much sense that thiswas just one thing but it's not.152301:40:20,370 --> 01:40:24,960And all it took was like a fiveminute CT scan, which I'd never152401:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,120done one of those but that's,you know you put your head in152501:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,080there. Okay, and then yeah, justgo take a look. drill right down152601:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,940through your head. Oh, look,there's the there's the152701:40:32,940 --> 01:40:36,750inflammation right on an EastSide view, rotate, enhance zoom,152801:40:37,020 --> 01:40:37,770arrest him.152901:40:40,560 --> 01:40:41,550Kill us up the address.153001:40:42,270 --> 01:40:44,460Oh, wait, I see something in thereflection on the bumper.153101:40:47,250 --> 01:40:51,360Let's see. But, you know, AlexBosworth?153201:40:52,020 --> 01:40:55,050Yes. From balance of Satoshis.Yes, the153301:40:55,050 --> 01:40:59,940balance of Satoshis. The guytool. If people don't know what153401:40:59,940 --> 01:41:02,700balance Satoshi is, it's a it'sa it's a, it's written in153501:41:02,700 --> 01:41:06,600JavaScript. But it's a commandline tool to let you pull all of153601:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,620your transactions. It does a lotof stuff. I mean, it's like a153701:41:10,620 --> 01:41:14,550Swiss Army knife of lightningNode Management. But one of the153801:41:14,550 --> 01:41:16,890things it does it has anaccounting function. So you can153901:41:17,430 --> 01:41:22,110run baz the name of this namedToby OS boss space, accounting,154001:41:22,650 --> 01:41:25,860space, and then a bunch ofoptions Command Line switches to154101:41:25,860 --> 01:41:30,780pull down your lightning knowtransactions for certain time154201:41:30,780 --> 01:41:34,110periods and things. Then you canalso say, okay, resolve it to154301:41:34,110 --> 01:41:42,630fiat, so it will produce thisnice CSV file of, let's just say154401:41:42,630 --> 01:41:45,810all the transactions for themonth of, of154501:41:45,870 --> 01:41:48,780of a dozen residue, if itdoesn't run out of memory after154601:41:48,780 --> 01:41:53,190three hours what exactly I didrunning everywhere that I gave154701:41:53,190 --> 01:41:56,910up on balance of Soto's exceptfor doing report, I think I154801:41:56,910 --> 01:42:00,900think report just, I could get areport out of it, but nothing,154901:42:00,900 --> 01:42:02,730nothing. I couldn't do anythingelse.155001:42:03,270 --> 01:42:06,900Okay, well, through working withhim on that issue, because I was155101:42:06,900 --> 01:42:13,860trying to, I will, on a monthlybasis, what I do is download, I155201:42:13,860 --> 01:42:19,530use bars, or was using bars todownload all the transactions155301:42:19,530 --> 01:42:23,280out of our lightning node into aCSV file for the month. So as155401:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,890soon as let's just say if itgets if it's, as soon as the155501:42:25,920 --> 01:42:31,080June is June 1 hits, I'll graball of Mays transactions into a155601:42:31,080 --> 01:42:36,390CSV ends in and have becausethat way you can have it resolve155701:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,730the Trent the SATs into Fiat, onthe fair market value of the day155801:42:41,730 --> 01:42:42,930that the transaction happened.155901:42:43,260 --> 01:42:47,220Yeah, that's so cool. And bossdoes that right? It looks up156001:42:47,250 --> 01:42:51,060does a date that even the timeor just the day, close price.156101:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,300I think it's the closing priceof the day. It is through you156201:42:54,300 --> 01:42:56,820can go through one or the youcan go through coin desk or coin156301:42:56,820 --> 01:43:00,660Gecko to resolve those amounts.Right. And it was working fine156401:43:00,660 --> 01:43:04,410until April. Then when I triedto pull maize. This has been a156501:43:04,410 --> 01:43:08,670few months ago. It just crappedthe bed. I mean, like it. It156601:43:08,670 --> 01:43:14,520crashed, memory exhausted, done.Okay, so I haven't been using it156701:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,410since. And I was like, Okay,well, at the end by that156801:43:16,410 --> 01:43:18,420sometime by the end of the year,we have to get this resolved,156901:43:18,420 --> 01:43:22,920because we'll need to pull ouraccounting for taxes. So I just157001:43:23,010 --> 01:43:25,290started getting in there while Iwas working. I couldn't get it157101:43:25,290 --> 01:43:30,690to work. Through working withAlex Bosworth in the telegram157201:43:30,690 --> 01:43:34,740channel. We went back and forth.And he he found the issue and157301:43:34,740 --> 01:43:38,370fixed it. Really what was it?Yes, it was just a memory157401:43:38,370 --> 01:43:42,030management thing. He waspulling. He said that it's got157501:43:42,030 --> 01:43:45,330to do with the way he waspulling the transit the settled157601:43:45,330 --> 01:43:49,440invoices out. He was pullingthem all at once, all at once,157701:43:49,740 --> 01:43:53,400and then filtering, rather thanpulling just the filtered157801:43:53,700 --> 01:43:56,610invoices. That was That's mylayman's understanding of what157901:43:56,610 --> 01:44:01,170he was doing. But he pushed acouple of changes. Finally, we158001:44:01,170 --> 01:44:05,760found the right combination ofthings. And it's fixed this and158101:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,150then I ran it and took aboutnine hours.158201:44:09,870 --> 01:44:11,550Well, for what for one month?158301:44:11,850 --> 01:44:19,410No for May through October. So Iran month 56789 and 10. So it158401:44:19,410 --> 01:44:25,830took nine and a half hours. Andit produced. Let's see, two is158501:44:25,830 --> 01:44:29,730like something like two not2,900,000 transactions.158601:44:30,030 --> 01:44:35,820Oh man, what's what version is?is updating? Do you know?158701:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,960It's 13 point 5.1 is where thefixes are.158801:44:39,990 --> 01:44:42,150I'm on 11 How the hell did thathappen? That's158901:44:42,150 --> 01:44:43,320no yeah, you're way behind.159001:44:45,210 --> 01:44:47,430I must have to get a differentrepo or something159101:44:48,150 --> 01:44:52,380I can't find had the stats, butI can't find it. But I was159201:44:52,380 --> 01:44:55,800trying to find the exact count.But there so it had I mean there159301:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,460were there was a lot oftransactions. So we're we're159401:44:59,460 --> 01:45:03,660well over Are 5 milliontransactions now? In our l&d159501:45:03,660 --> 01:45:05,310data processing crazy.159601:45:06,990 --> 01:45:12,780What's even crazier is that noone no one in any of the initial159701:45:12,780 --> 01:45:16,500development lightning labsanywhere, no one has anyone159801:45:16,500 --> 01:45:18,810really considered that this willbe used for I don't know,159901:45:18,810 --> 01:45:25,560micropayments. Right. This iswhat this is, what gets me is160001:45:25,560 --> 01:45:26,580just insane.160101:45:27,449 --> 01:45:30,929But it works. That's the, that'sthe even more insane part, this160201:45:30,929 --> 01:45:34,169is how it works. Somehow thesemillions of transactions, it160301:45:34,169 --> 01:45:35,639just keeps on chugging. Well,when160401:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,380you do not discount to thecommunity. You know, I was, I've160501:45:40,380 --> 01:45:42,600been reading a lot aboutnetworks, particularly, you160601:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,720know, my interest in networkshas always been there. But, you160701:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,860know, kicking a G 20, Member offof Swift, you know, what kind of160801:45:49,860 --> 01:45:53,910implications does that have, I'minterested in, in networks. And160901:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,420ultimately, the network is just,it's a network, but it's what's161001:45:57,420 --> 01:46:03,840connected to the network. Andour nodes are peering our161101:46:03,840 --> 01:46:08,880routing with, you know, with theplayers with the players. We got161201:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,450the players, they got theswagger, you know, we have161301:46:12,570 --> 01:46:16,920breeze, we got our B, we got anLM PE with a fountain, it's161401:46:16,920 --> 01:46:20,520like, the the players areconnected, and we got the, the161501:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,330smaller individual nodes, andthere's all kinds of people like161601:46:25,230 --> 01:46:28,590Orson Welles or whatever, SteveJobs who comes in with 10161701:46:28,590 --> 01:46:32,310million sat channels, and it'sthe community that makes it work161801:46:32,340 --> 01:46:36,090otherwise, and Trudeau JustinTrudeau otherwise, it just161901:46:36,090 --> 01:46:40,440wouldn't work at all. So chapeauBye, everybody. Good job,162001:46:40,440 --> 01:46:46,470everybody. That's a wrap. Welldone for today. Else,162101:46:46,740 --> 01:46:49,170I had another I had one morething I want to throw at you162201:46:49,170 --> 01:46:54,540ensure I feel like we can dosome sort of lightning liquidity162301:46:54,540 --> 01:46:55,170checker.162401:46:56,070 --> 01:46:58,950Oh, yeah. You were paying meabout this.162501:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,780I don't necessarily want to gotoo far down this hole. But I162601:47:03,780 --> 01:47:08,340feel like that could be a thingthat we have a thing that we162701:47:08,370 --> 01:47:12,510offer. Because in here, here'sthe here's the way it looks to162801:47:12,510 --> 01:47:16,350me in my head, let me just letme just hit you with this thing.162901:47:18,300 --> 01:47:24,180If, if we rule out the bignodes, so anything, we just look163001:47:24,180 --> 01:47:27,480at, look at all the we look atthe node IDs is okay, we're,163101:47:27,660 --> 01:47:31,230we're not going to botherchecking anything that's on LM163201:47:31,230 --> 01:47:36,000pay for anything that's own lb,or fountain or whatever. Like we163301:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,690just kind of toss those out.What you're left with is going163401:47:39,690 --> 01:47:46,410to be mostly private nodes. Sopeople like Todd, who are163501:47:46,410 --> 01:47:50,550running their own roles andthings like that. If on a163601:47:50,550 --> 01:47:55,800periodic basis, I don't know,once every few hours, six hours163701:47:55,800 --> 01:48:01,140or so we just do a test route tothem and see if a payment would163801:48:01,140 --> 01:48:05,820fail. We don't we don't evenhave to send anything we just do163901:48:05,820 --> 01:48:12,150a test a route payment. And seeif it would if it would not164001:48:12,150 --> 01:48:20,250route. We display that status.Some were to them or I don't164101:48:20,250 --> 01:48:23,040know, that's the part I don'tknow about is how to make that164201:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,240public. But when we could makethat have that information164301:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,750available is basically trying togive an early warning system to164401:48:31,140 --> 01:48:33,300hey, you're having a liquidityissue.164501:48:34,140 --> 01:48:38,730It's a nice thing to do. I'm alittle worried that it's just164601:48:39,510 --> 01:48:45,660fixing a an ephemeral problem.This is all going to fix itself.164701:48:46,980 --> 01:48:50,490You know, Todd's problem fixitself. She went to UK he went164801:48:50,490 --> 01:48:51,060to Aldi164901:48:51,810 --> 01:48:54,180Yeah, I guess I just don't wantto I don't want to force people165001:48:54,180 --> 01:48:55,560to get a custodial.165101:48:56,010 --> 01:49:02,700No, no, you see, but Okay, soyou but it's not our job. It's165201:49:02,700 --> 01:49:05,940the umbrellas of the world to doa better job to start nines of165301:49:05,940 --> 01:49:09,330the world. This is their job.This is their job. And this is165401:49:09,330 --> 01:49:15,630their job. It's also breeze andit's also the with the guys. You165501:49:15,630 --> 01:49:19,410know, the lightning serviceproviders, those that they're165601:49:19,440 --> 01:49:21,930ramping up, they're going tocome in and start offering you165701:49:21,930 --> 01:49:25,110don't have to this is what Ilove about the breeze wallet. I165801:49:25,110 --> 01:49:30,060have $500 in Satoshis in mybreeze wallet. And that's what I165901:49:30,060 --> 01:49:33,780used to pay for stuff and why doI love it? I don't have to think166001:49:33,780 --> 01:49:37,440about the liquidity ever. It'sjust there.166101:49:40,830 --> 01:49:43,890Yeah, yeah, I guess Yeah, Iguess you're right.166201:49:43,920 --> 01:49:48,030Well, I just we have so much todo and I know you just I know166301:49:48,030 --> 01:49:53,130you as much you hate as much asI do. It goes like this. Post a166401:49:53,130 --> 01:49:59,700picture. Your shirts broken.Yeah. And you look at it and166501:49:59,700 --> 01:50:02,460like well Well, you know thatyou gotta go through the dance,166601:50:02,460 --> 01:50:05,070you know what app you're usingwhere you're boosting from, you166701:50:05,070 --> 01:50:07,770gotta look, where's your it'sjust like, it's all good, I166801:50:07,770 --> 01:50:11,100think it's going to get solved.I mean, everything points166901:50:11,100 --> 01:50:18,750towards liquidity being managedin an in a, in a self sovereign167001:50:18,750 --> 01:50:22,440way, that you'll just be rentingliquidity, but it's still your167101:50:22,440 --> 01:50:25,440keys, you own the transactionpower, etc.167201:50:26,130 --> 01:50:29,940Yeah. And if your liquidityprovider bails or something, you167301:50:29,940 --> 01:50:34,050just go get another one. Yeah,that makes sense. I guess167401:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,830this is building out so fast. Imean, I wish I wish I had time167501:50:37,830 --> 01:50:41,970to learn to code. Because I hadthis. Every day I wake up,167601:50:41,970 --> 01:50:47,940there's another, I was listeningto some podcast. And this is167701:50:47,940 --> 01:50:50,340actually may be the stuff thatreminded me of, I think, what167801:50:50,340 --> 01:50:54,570happened to Sphinx, maybe theywere getting into this. And as a167901:50:54,570 --> 01:50:59,310company that's now going toelectricity providers. So like,168001:50:59,310 --> 01:51:02,970go to the co op here. And theirpitch is would you like to get168101:51:02,970 --> 01:51:07,590your money faster? Yeah, andthey all go Yeah, because168201:51:07,590 --> 01:51:12,030they're dealing with, you know,month long turnaround times,168301:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,720risk of people not paying after30 days and not being able to168401:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,710pay. And so they're doing inessence value for value168501:51:19,710 --> 01:51:24,810streaming of Satoshis for formegawatts, or for kilowatts, or168601:51:24,810 --> 01:51:29,160for watts. And well, and soyeah, so you fill up your, you168701:51:29,160 --> 01:51:35,460fill up your energy wallet. Andat the, you know, every single168801:51:35,910 --> 01:51:39,300watt, I guess, every watt thatyou your whatever, I guess the168901:51:39,300 --> 01:51:42,630VA, that's gonna want to bekilowatts, every kilowatt that169001:51:42,630 --> 01:51:47,790you use, you pay your eight 910cents in SATs at the market169101:51:47,790 --> 01:51:54,060price at that moment, at the atthe moment, you use it as an169201:51:54,060 --> 01:51:58,890instant clip, and it cuts outfive steps in between. Because169301:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,190along the way, they've basicallyseen that you can do splits,169401:52:02,550 --> 01:52:05,220because it's not just theelectricity provider, you know,169501:52:05,220 --> 01:52:08,520there's all these differentpieces down the line, including169601:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,430where your coop gets theirelectricity from, so you can169701:52:11,430 --> 01:52:15,450split it all off right away andstrip out. I think they169801:52:15,450 --> 01:52:20,850calculated between 10 and 15%money that's just lost that169901:52:20,850 --> 01:52:24,270ultimately, you're paying for asa customer, because of the170001:52:24,270 --> 01:52:29,280inefficiencies of the system. SoI just wake up in the middle of170101:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,930the night with these ideas, andmy urges to call you and I think170201:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,240oh no, we already have a greatproject going What am I doing?170301:52:37,710 --> 01:52:40,020I got a great idea. Let's doenergy.170401:52:40,590 --> 01:52:44,250All I want. My life will beperfect. If you too. Dave Jones170501:52:44,430 --> 01:52:48,360could retire from corporatelife. Everything else is fine170601:52:48,360 --> 01:52:48,750for me.170701:52:49,710 --> 01:52:51,240Yeah, work.170801:52:52,380 --> 01:52:55,560I love you. Happy Thanksgiving.Happy Thanksgiving to you my170901:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,050brother Happy Thanksgiving toeverybody. Thank you all for171001:52:58,050 --> 01:53:03,300being with us for yet anotherwonderful podcasting. 2.0 So171101:53:03,300 --> 01:53:06,690we'll be back in two weeks foranother board meeting join us171201:53:07,110 --> 01:53:08,160it's mandatory.171301:53:24,030 --> 01:53:28,620You have been listening topodcasting 2.0 Visit podcast171401:53:28,620 --> 01:53:31,170index.org for more information.171501:53:33,720 --> 01:53:34,830Podcasts are cool