Episode 108: Hard Out

100:00:00,810 --> 00:00:07,020podcasting 2.0 for October28 2022, episode 108 part out200:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,110hello everybody. And once againit is time for the weekly board300:00:13,110 --> 00:00:16,800meeting of podcasting 2.0 Ifyou're a podcasting one point400:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,650over you are welcome we'rebackwards compatible, everything500:00:19,650 --> 00:00:23,730going on a podcast index.org Allthe things that you need to know600:00:23,730 --> 00:00:26,280about the new standards, thenamespace and of course700:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,790everything we're discussing apodcast index dot social. I'm800:00:29,790 --> 00:00:33,030Adam curry here in the heart ofthe Texas Hill Country and in900:00:33,030 --> 00:00:36,420Alabama ladies, they'll get toyour email eventually say hello1000:00:36,420 --> 00:00:39,390to my friend on the other endMr. Dame Jones1100:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,470were early victims of thetredinnick1200:00:44,670 --> 00:00:48,270not you know if only they hadused tried Demick instead, they1300:00:48,270 --> 00:00:52,260use triple Demmick which is dumbis bad marketing.1400:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,149What would the twin demic wasthe one the previous one yes. So1500:00:57,149 --> 00:00:59,099this is the I guess theycouldn't they didn't set the1600:00:59,099 --> 00:01:03,419standard with by by dynamic theyhad to go that it gets keep with1700:01:03,419 --> 00:01:07,829the same off off label usage. Sothey went with try triple1800:01:07,829 --> 00:01:08,279Dimmick.1900:01:08,460 --> 00:01:11,460Now we discussed this on noagenda, and we decided that it2000:01:11,460 --> 00:01:17,670was bad marketing because if yousay dried Demick it sounds kind2100:01:17,670 --> 00:01:20,460of scary. If you say tripleDemmick it sounds like something2200:01:20,460 --> 00:01:21,570you'd get at McDonald's.2300:01:22,860 --> 00:01:25,530Or a ride at an amusement ride.Yes,2400:01:25,710 --> 00:01:28,350it's a triple Demmick I want togo on the trip with David daddy.2500:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,090The like the sense it's like arat in The Simpsons area of2600:01:33,090 --> 00:01:38,790Universal Studios. Exactly.Mary, Mary marigold my youngest2700:01:38,790 --> 00:01:39,720my 12 year old she2800:01:39,930 --> 00:01:44,670beautiful. Marigold. Thank you.Do you call her Mary for short2900:01:44,670 --> 00:01:46,650or just hey, you know what,3000:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,920when when everything's whentimes are good. Yeah, it's Mary3100:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,250Mary3200:01:50,250 --> 00:01:55,170and Mary gold. Yeah. Yeah,3300:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,130she woke up this morning withfever. Then my wife's coffin and3400:01:59,130 --> 00:02:00,360everything. Like oh crap, you3500:02:00,690 --> 00:02:04,560see, triple damage down for thecount. Super bug. We're all3600:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,200gonna die who has monkey poxthese days.3700:02:07,860 --> 00:02:12,330But it's coming. It just weighsit's gonna be the next big thing3800:02:12,330 --> 00:02:13,920just you just got to wait. It'snot here yet.3900:02:14,100 --> 00:02:18,900Now just briefly, say my emptynester now, how you doing proper4000:02:21,210 --> 00:02:23,820Alright, it's I'm getting there.4100:02:24,090 --> 00:02:26,520You'll be laughing about thisand it's six months.4200:02:28,350 --> 00:02:31,860It's been rough man. I'm Missmissed the hell out of my kids.4300:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,140So you just had the one left?4400:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,270Yeah, we spent. I mean, we spent20 years4500:02:39,570 --> 00:02:40,470trying to get rid of them.4600:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,490Ya know, in the trenches, Imean, like, not just not just4700:02:44,490 --> 00:02:48,240with we didn't just have kids welike had day I had to manage4800:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,010them on a daily basis. You know,now then they leave and you're4900:02:53,010 --> 00:02:56,820like, Ah, crap. You're likeshould we play a board game?5000:02:57,090 --> 00:02:57,990What exactly should5100:02:59,250 --> 00:03:00,870the little shit I know.5200:03:02,430 --> 00:03:05,940I understand. We have thatcrocheted on a pillow the little5300:03:05,940 --> 00:03:06,450shifts a5400:03:06,450 --> 00:03:11,040little shit. Hey, nice to seethe pod verse livestream page.5500:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,450That was kind of a cool idea.5600:03:13,139 --> 00:03:15,389It's a very cool idea. I mean,5700:03:15,480 --> 00:03:21,360pod verse.fm/live streams Ithink let me see. Let's Yeah, it5800:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,390is and there we are. We're liveit shows us live and it shows us5900:03:24,390 --> 00:03:29,460pending before and it shows the100% Retro stream live it shows6000:03:29,460 --> 00:03:32,910curio caster live which is Ididn't know Steven B had a6100:03:32,910 --> 00:03:33,540stream6200:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,730I didn't I think that may be thein a stream I don't think that6300:03:38,730 --> 00:03:43,200it actually him let me seebecause I leave it in it. I told6400:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,230you it is thinks that may be thein a struggle you better cut6500:03:46,230 --> 00:03:49,920that off its inception. We'regonna we're gonna die. Melt the6600:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,400internet.6700:03:50,580 --> 00:03:53,130Well, that's that's okay. So Ihave a good question about this6800:03:53,130 --> 00:03:57,780right off the bat. Is this avalue for value? Just check.6900:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,840There's a link to the livestream things it's like a May7000:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,240it's a first class citizen rightthere on the left hand side of7100:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,290pod verse that FM7200:04:04,500 --> 00:04:08,670Oh, yeah, no, I know I saw thatcool. But so Okay, so this curio7300:04:08,670 --> 00:04:10,800caster stream now this isinteresting, because I think it7400:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,870was Chad F who said to me hey,can you make a feed of the no7500:04:15,870 --> 00:04:19,770agenda livestream? Like Well,that's cuz I did the feed for7600:04:19,770 --> 00:04:24,600100% retro, which I love howcurio casters promoting it a7700:04:24,600 --> 00:04:30,810little little banner there hadyou heard it yet? And I said,7800:04:30,840 --> 00:04:32,640Oh, that's a good idea. Weshould do that. And then as I7900:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,820was thinking about it, this isan interesting challenge.8000:04:36,330 --> 00:04:41,760Because the no agenda stream isused for podcasts, and8100:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,040increasingly more live shows.I'd say I don't know what the8200:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,830ratio is. But there's a lot ofpeople going live particularly8300:04:46,830 --> 00:04:49,560since the lit tag came intoexistence, because there's8400:04:49,590 --> 00:04:53,130boosting and there's interactionthat's fun. And man that is it.8500:04:54,060 --> 00:04:57,270Is a bowl for bowl who have youknow, you trigger a certain8600:04:57,330 --> 00:05:00,720amount of SATs and a goat soundgoes off and No, that's, that's8700:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,260behind the behind the schemes,right? So yeah, Insanity is8800:05:04,260 --> 00:05:08,970beautiful. But if no, I lovethis, I wish that was packaged,8900:05:08,970 --> 00:05:12,180I wish I could use it. I mean, Ilove those things, those little9000:05:12,390 --> 00:05:15,090breaks, I'd set it really highand like I want the bell to go9100:05:15,090 --> 00:05:19,290off and fireworks and so allthis stuff. But if we do it on9200:05:19,290 --> 00:05:22,950the stream, and then people arelistening to the no agenda9300:05:22,950 --> 00:05:28,710stream, the feed that I set up,that mean, there is currently no9400:05:28,710 --> 00:05:35,580way to dynamically switch thevalue block based upon metadata9500:05:35,580 --> 00:05:39,180coming from the spring from thestream or something else.9600:05:39,450 --> 00:05:42,480Because otherwise, it'll just gointo whatever splits or whatever9700:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,380I determined. And I feel it'd bebeautiful, if somehow we can, we9800:05:46,380 --> 00:05:50,580can. It's kind of follows onwhat we talked about. On the9900:05:50,580 --> 00:05:56,460last show where 100% retro, theywant to be able to trigger pod10000:05:56,460 --> 00:06:00,270ping events. But it's kind ofmore interesting, when you can10100:06:00,390 --> 00:06:04,710trigger just based upon themetadata of the stream, a switch10200:06:04,710 --> 00:06:07,830in the value block. I'm not surewhere that happens or how that10300:06:07,830 --> 00:06:10,470works. But you understand thatthe basic issue why it wouldn't10400:06:10,470 --> 00:06:15,390be right for me to have anoverall stream whereas it would10500:06:15,390 --> 00:06:19,890value for value. And if peopleare listening and curio caster10600:06:19,890 --> 00:06:23,550and the listening to you know,Jean and and Darren and they10700:06:23,550 --> 00:06:25,470want to boost they'd be therewouldn't be boosting them10800:06:25,470 --> 00:06:27,840directly. If that makes sense.Yeah.10900:06:28,140 --> 00:06:30,510Yeah, I understand exactly whatyou say. This is the thing that11000:06:30,510 --> 00:06:33,060I brought up last week that youtold me was no problem because11100:06:33,060 --> 00:06:36,210icecast had metadata and there'snot a problem.11200:06:37,140 --> 00:06:40,830Right? But I mean, it hasmetadata data, but how do we how11300:06:40,830 --> 00:06:43,680do we catch it? How do we how doyou dynamically change the11400:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,120block? How does all that work?11500:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,460I think that first thingwouldn't be pod pay, I mean, pod11600:06:50,460 --> 00:06:56,520pain, makes sense that therewould be a pod paying event that11700:06:56,520 --> 00:07:04,380fires off. Like that we'll see.So what you're doing like this,11800:07:04,830 --> 00:07:07,590the, I guess we get about it,let's let's let's back up here11900:07:07,590 --> 00:07:10,170for a second. So there's like abunch of different things that12000:07:10,170 --> 00:07:18,030we need to talk about in aroundthis entire idea of stream of12100:07:18,030 --> 00:07:22,800feeds, with things in them thatdon't have items. So we won't12200:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,010have12300:07:23,790 --> 00:07:28,170I have items now. I mean, I feelthat you should have items. And12400:07:28,230 --> 00:07:31,590I didn't do that initially with100 with 100%. Retro and now12500:07:31,740 --> 00:07:34,890they actually cutting promosevery week. That's, you know,12600:07:34,890 --> 00:07:38,280this week on 100%. Retro and Imake that an item?12700:07:39,030 --> 00:07:41,970Because I don't feel like youshould have items. Okay, I12800:07:41,970 --> 00:07:43,080disagree. I don't12900:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,740think I didn't put it in and itbroke a lot of shit. So that was13000:07:46,740 --> 00:07:49,560my that was my cue. It was like,Oh, I think I need items.13100:07:49,950 --> 00:07:53,400Right. So let's go down therereference eight. So the I mean,13200:07:53,430 --> 00:07:57,030the first I think we talked lastweek. I think Harv has right, I13300:07:57,030 --> 00:07:59,910think the chat. I think wetalked about somehow attaching a13400:07:59,910 --> 00:08:00,930chapters file.13500:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,350Right? Right, right. Livechapters. Yes, we did talk about13600:08:04,350 --> 00:08:05,280that. That would13700:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,550be one way to do it. But thenagain, I think if you if you if13800:08:08,550 --> 00:08:14,940we if we, you know, rewind here,if we go back to the original13900:08:14,940 --> 00:08:21,480concept of a live item, then thelive item is not meant to14000:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,040specify a stream, it's meant tospecify an event. Yeah, event14100:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,950would be the change of DJ or thechange of show. So you would14200:08:31,950 --> 00:08:36,300have a feed that would havemultiple live items in it. All14300:08:36,300 --> 00:08:40,380with pending, except one of themis live. And then the next one,14400:08:40,380 --> 00:08:44,760that one rolls off in the andthe next one goes live. So like14500:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,120your so that's the way it'ssupposed to work.14600:08:49,050 --> 00:08:51,300And then the value block changesautomatically.14700:08:52,050 --> 00:08:56,220Right? So you would just need tosend another pod ping to say14800:08:56,490 --> 00:09:00,570live, and it would reference thesame stream and then things14900:09:00,570 --> 00:09:04,200would refresh writing in thevalue block would come through.15000:09:05,070 --> 00:09:08,700My My head's exploding. That'svery cool. We basically have all15100:09:08,700 --> 00:09:09,540the bits there.15200:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,140Yeah, I think it's already it'sthe problems already solved. The15300:09:13,140 --> 00:09:17,820issue is that nobody's doing afeed that looks like that. So we15400:09:17,820 --> 00:09:22,680don't see. Like, like, we don'tsee it. Okay, so perception15500:09:22,680 --> 00:09:23,070issue,15600:09:23,100 --> 00:09:30,360right. So what would basicallyhave to happen this case? So if15700:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,940I put in 24 hours of it, by theway, I have no commercial15800:09:35,940 --> 00:09:38,610involvement. I just liked thisguy. I've known him for 10015900:09:38,610 --> 00:09:42,600years. He used to book me ongigs in Belgium, and, you know,16000:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,790he's just, he's just a dudetrying to do something16100:09:44,790 --> 00:09:51,870different. And I appreciate it.Could I would fill up 24 hours16200:09:51,870 --> 00:09:58,710which would say be like fivedifferent blocks of, you know,16300:09:58,740 --> 00:10:01,260or six different blocks of fouror our or something like that16400:10:02,190 --> 00:10:06,330and put them pending in thefeed? The only thing that would16500:10:06,330 --> 00:10:09,150then still because the feed willread them and we'll know okay,16600:10:09,150 --> 00:10:12,210that one's dead. This is this isthe next this is the next one,16700:10:12,210 --> 00:10:16,770but somewhere it has to flip tolive in the in the feed, so that16800:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,180that would be a logic that logicwould be on the publishing side.16900:10:22,050 --> 00:10:25,710Yes, that's right. You know,actually, I think,17000:10:25,740 --> 00:10:27,990do you think Stephen B isalready built it? I mean, he's17100:10:27,990 --> 00:10:30,870getting just excuses about beingcut up and stuff. But um,17200:10:30,930 --> 00:10:34,230yeah, I mean, like he got, hegot knifed in the gut 20 times17300:10:34,230 --> 00:10:34,860or something like,17400:10:34,919 --> 00:10:38,159Oh, my goodness, I'm so happy.He's okay. We got real quiet17500:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,559around him like, oh, no, this isnot17600:10:40,560 --> 00:10:44,100good. I'm looking at live on himreal quick, because I find out17700:10:44,310 --> 00:10:45,840if I remember,17800:10:46,050 --> 00:10:49,320I find this incredibly exciting.By the way, I don't know why.17900:10:49,350 --> 00:10:54,060But I just and I still am notgetting Todd's new media show.18000:10:55,110 --> 00:10:56,430Live pod pings.18100:10:57,900 --> 00:11:01,290That assay this time we'll see.I'm trying to look and see what18200:11:01,290 --> 00:11:06,630the attribute. Okay, so statusstart and end are all required.18300:11:08,940 --> 00:11:12,120Which is real easy with a with alinear radio stream, you know18400:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,030exactly when it stops, which iskind of cool.18500:11:15,210 --> 00:11:17,400And that could be CMS can justdrop that thing. Well,18600:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,210you could also it could beautomatically generated by their18700:11:21,210 --> 00:11:22,260playout system.18800:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,200So yeah, just come juststraight. And just to try and18900:11:25,230 --> 00:11:27,510just translate that right intoXML. Yeah,19000:11:27,570 --> 00:11:31,560they have, they have a full fullscheduling system. With all the19100:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,300metadata, everything's in there.19200:11:33,630 --> 00:11:36,300See, this is what Sam says heneeds for his river radios.19300:11:36,300 --> 00:11:39,540Well, this would be the sameexact scenario you just wrote,19400:11:39,540 --> 00:11:44,400he just run that playout systeminto XML to generate the feeds,19500:11:44,940 --> 00:11:47,910I use em air list. And that'ssomething that's highly19600:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,670configurable, you can do scriptsome stuff. So that might be19700:11:50,670 --> 00:11:51,390some of the low.19800:11:51,870 --> 00:11:55,920Well, okay, so this, but on thebroader, sort of, like on the on19900:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,640the bigger view here, thisbrings up what we were talking20000:11:59,640 --> 00:12:07,080about while ago, which is havinga feed that has nothing in there20100:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,800has no items in it. And thisthis can, if you will permit me,20200:12:14,580 --> 00:12:20,370I would like to also bring in adiscussion of the podcast remote20300:12:20,370 --> 00:12:24,420item tag, which is phase six.Yes, of course. Because I think20400:12:24,420 --> 00:12:27,090they are tangential to oneanother. So the20500:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,270just don't use don't use bigwords like tangential me just20600:12:30,270 --> 00:12:32,580hit me like I'm five pleaseshare.20700:12:35,280 --> 00:12:42,090The podcast remote item tag isgoing to suffer suffer the same20800:12:42,330 --> 00:12:48,960sort of limbo as as a feed asthe live item. Because what you20900:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,700can imagine is a we'll go overremote on a second, but you can21000:12:53,700 --> 00:12:59,160imagine is a feed and RSS 2.0feed that has no item tags in21100:12:59,160 --> 00:13:05,670it. And off the bat that isfine. According to the according21200:13:05,670 --> 00:13:09,000to the RSS 2.0 spec, it's fineto have a chance to have an RSS21300:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,200feed versus 2.0 feed with just achannel that has zero items in21400:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,830it. It's just21500:13:13,860 --> 00:13:18,930a parsing issue and decisionthat the client makes. Yeah,21600:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,190in the language says quote anythe channel can have quote any21700:13:23,190 --> 00:13:29,850number of items. Zero. Yeah, sothat means if any number or zero21800:13:29,850 --> 00:13:31,200is a number so we can have zero21900:13:31,980 --> 00:13:33,270with a zero exist.22000:13:35,010 --> 00:13:39,540Zero in Infinity do not exist.Yeah, but they are numbers. Oh.22100:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,510So this so it's valid XML it'svalid RSS. And so that means22200:13:45,510 --> 00:13:50,970it's it's okay. So if we put ina bunch if we have a feed like22300:13:50,970 --> 00:13:54,450we're talking about with the100% Retro a feed with a whole22400:13:54,450 --> 00:13:59,370bunch of let's just say for thefor our blocks has six live item22500:13:59,370 --> 00:14:02,940tags in it that all rotate andmove up as the thing goes22600:14:02,940 --> 00:14:06,990through. That's fine. I just itlike the problem is the podcast22700:14:06,990 --> 00:14:13,710index website does not recognizeis not displaying remote live22800:14:13,710 --> 00:14:17,070items yet. So it looks like thatit looks like the feed doesn't22900:14:17,070 --> 00:14:20,670have anything in it. That's Yes,it does. So that's23000:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,260that's our course. Our parserdecision Right exactly. In that23100:14:25,260 --> 00:14:27,900in those lot of those live itemsare actually in the database.23200:14:27,900 --> 00:14:30,630We're just nobody has a website.23300:14:30,690 --> 00:14:34,110Nobody's right. Nobody has donethat. No one cares. No one wants23400:14:34,110 --> 00:14:34,590to help23500:14:35,220 --> 00:14:39,900and lazy when when I say nobodythat's a deflection that's23600:14:39,900 --> 00:14:44,190pointing the finger at somebodyelse besides me. Because why23700:14:44,190 --> 00:14:47,010would I ever do something likethat? I'm telling you man, never23800:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,020never ever such a lazy guys arein here.23900:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,180So explain to me remote itemagain.24000:14:52,140 --> 00:14:58,740Okay, so remote item. And hejust, he just updated the spec24100:14:58,740 --> 00:15:06,240for it. This is Alex's proposalremote item list, I will read24200:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,710from our read from thisproposal. The intent of this24300:15:10,710 --> 00:15:14,280proposal is to provide a tagthat allows another item to be24400:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,050referenced without outrightcopying it. This shouldn't be an24500:15:19,050 --> 00:15:22,680item in another feed entirely.So this is like a playlist.24600:15:23,310 --> 00:15:24,990Gotcha. Yeah,24700:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,900that's, that's really what thisis supposed to be, um, you can24800:15:27,900 --> 00:15:32,010have a remote item. It'sperfectly valid to have a remote24900:15:32,010 --> 00:15:36,750item in a normal RSS feed thathas items. But you can really25000:15:36,750 --> 00:15:40,170see the power of this that thatwould in that scenario, me back25100:15:40,170 --> 00:15:44,280up in that scenario, that wouldprevent you from doing things25200:15:44,310 --> 00:15:48,120from hand to do funky stuff likeair dropping another person's25300:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,160episode into your RSS feed.25400:15:50,249 --> 00:15:56,099Right? So the the item to beinserted can be an item or even25500:15:56,099 --> 00:16:00,209a channel can only be an itemitself.25600:16:00,930 --> 00:16:06,480Yes. So you would have an itemin let's just say, Oh, perfect25700:16:06,480 --> 00:16:13,170example here. Immediate show.The there live episode from25800:16:13,170 --> 00:16:17,940Podcast Movement. James was aguest on that show. So he just25900:16:18,390 --> 00:16:22,590used that episode, Todd saidit's cool if you just use this26000:16:22,590 --> 00:16:24,630episode and drop this enclosureinto your foot26100:16:24,629 --> 00:16:27,479whereas it would have been easyfor him just to say remote item26200:16:27,509 --> 00:16:28,949boom and points to that.26300:16:29,370 --> 00:16:32,880points to the media show feedand that good and he doesn't26400:16:32,880 --> 00:16:38,100have to drop another person'sfeed enclosure into his I mean26500:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,080feed item into his RSS feed.26600:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,970So what you automatically wantat least what I automatically26700:16:44,970 --> 00:16:50,490want? No, Nevermind. Nevermind.Um, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no,26800:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,860no, I'm just trying to think, Isthis more? Because you're James26900:16:55,890 --> 00:17:00,720is I'm just going to guess youwould not use that in that case,27000:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,410because he wants his ownbranding around the episode he27100:17:04,410 --> 00:17:08,100wants to explain in his words,what, what what this episode is27200:17:08,100 --> 00:17:12,540about. And so in that case, youreally only limited the mp3. So27300:17:12,540 --> 00:17:17,340this seems this remote itemseems more applicable to music27400:17:17,340 --> 00:17:21,420for creating playlists thananything else. Because then then27500:17:21,420 --> 00:17:26,250you really want to give thecreator of that item. The full27600:17:26,250 --> 00:17:30,450control over what how thatsurface is not just the the27700:17:30,450 --> 00:17:34,740media file, but also the albumart and transcripts, which might27800:17:34,740 --> 00:17:40,650be lyrics, etc. That's where itseems like super important.27900:17:41,490 --> 00:17:43,770Yes, I think you're exactlyright. I think what,28000:17:43,860 --> 00:17:46,830but Alex designed it with thatin mind. Oh, yeah,28100:17:46,830 --> 00:17:50,130of course. Yeah, it's exactlywhat it was for. The remote item28200:17:50,130 --> 00:17:55,530has utility outside of aplaylist context. But play with28300:17:55,530 --> 00:17:57,780play lists are really where it'sdistinction. I28400:17:57,780 --> 00:17:59,940think we should talk about it inthe context of what it was28500:17:59,940 --> 00:18:03,450designed for. So it's not aboutJames dropping in an episode.28600:18:03,450 --> 00:18:07,410It's about me putting together amixtape from my lover Dave.28700:18:10,290 --> 00:18:17,910Oh, sweet. Yeah, bro. is what Iwas doing. I was I was laying28800:18:17,910 --> 00:18:23,430out the, the use case whereeverybody would be like, then I28900:18:23,430 --> 00:18:28,140was gonna follow it up with withthe right hook playlist. And29000:18:28,140 --> 00:18:28,800everybody's gonna be like,29100:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,090Okay, well, you got me, you gotme? Yes, I was there. I was29200:18:33,090 --> 00:18:35,520there. I was there, I justjumped the gun. I'm sorry, I29300:18:35,730 --> 00:18:37,170didn't realize there was a punchline.29400:18:38,340 --> 00:18:42,330The the first section of theproposal is cross app playlists.29500:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,530And this is as this allows oneto provide lists of other items,29600:18:46,530 --> 00:18:50,280which one does not own copyrightto, such as playlists, and29700:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,300various different types of audiovideo mediums, in combination29800:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,760with list mediums, and we'lltalk about the rule, we'll talk29900:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,540about that too. One can use atheme made entirely of podcast30000:19:00,540 --> 00:19:03,540remote item tags, to share themin a manner that allows30100:19:03,540 --> 00:19:05,700applications to recognize themas playlists.30200:19:05,730 --> 00:19:10,050So then you get into the reverseissue, are you ready? I'm gonna30300:19:10,050 --> 00:19:17,310blow your mind. So let's, solet's say I can, I can envision30400:19:17,340 --> 00:19:21,450a world where making playlistsof remote items with a very, you30500:19:21,450 --> 00:19:25,230know, simple tool becomesincredibly fun. I mean, I can30600:19:25,230 --> 00:19:28,560see exactly how the app tapsinto the index. It's you know,30700:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,710you can even drag and drop andall this stuff is the whole30800:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,790experience is very clear in mymind, and that all under the30900:19:35,790 --> 00:19:40,170hood is you basically buildingup a feed of remote items. So at31000:19:40,170 --> 00:19:45,960a certain point, some peoplewill be very influential. And31100:19:47,250 --> 00:19:51,840and people will, they will wantto take advantage of that. And I31200:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,840think other people want to geton their list and there can be31300:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,670an economy there. If we canfigure out how do you get that31400:19:59,670 --> 00:20:05,730list? Creator into the remoteItem Value block so that they31500:20:05,730 --> 00:20:09,180can get a maybe it's a maybeit's a slug, a placeholder.31600:20:09,450 --> 00:20:12,330Something like that, you know,here's 5% from whoever puts us31700:20:12,330 --> 00:20:14,070into a playlist. Does that makesense?31800:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,910Yeah. The that I knew you weregonna go there.31900:20:21,810 --> 00:20:25,170And do you prep do you use? Doyou lay awake at night and think32000:20:25,170 --> 00:20:26,760about what does Adam going tosay about?32100:20:29,070 --> 00:20:30,810First I'm gonna suck him in whenflame32200:20:31,800 --> 00:20:38,760Boom, baby, boom, I'm gonna needa whip. I do have a whip.32300:20:39,570 --> 00:20:44,460Sorry. Um, yeah. So. So thatbrings up a good. That brings up32400:20:44,460 --> 00:20:49,230a good point. I think in theoriginal spec. I don't see it in32500:20:49,230 --> 00:20:56,880this one I may be overlooking, Ithink. Alex said that the value32600:20:56,910 --> 00:21:01,680blocks that this should notcontain value blocks. The remote32700:21:01,680 --> 00:21:09,120item tag? Oh, why? And I thinkwe'll see what here it is. An32800:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,910element defines a remote itemone or more may be defined per32900:21:11,910 --> 00:21:16,500channel. It refers to an itemoutside of the feed. This should33000:21:16,500 --> 00:21:21,330only be used for list mediumtypes. We'll see. This should33100:21:21,330 --> 00:21:24,990not utilize any value relatedtags contained within the feed.33200:21:25,140 --> 00:21:27,690Only the value tags on thereferenced feed should be33300:21:27,690 --> 00:21:33,390respected. So right, like,right. Yeah. So that you're33400:21:33,420 --> 00:21:36,120that and then there's theproblem. How do you how do you33500:21:36,120 --> 00:21:42,090get the how do you get? How doyou reward someone for creating33600:21:42,090 --> 00:21:42,900a playlist?33700:21:45,150 --> 00:21:46,410Yeah, no, no, because33800:21:46,439 --> 00:21:49,829because there'll be the DJs ofthe future, you see, and we need33900:21:49,829 --> 00:21:52,679to cut them in because then itincentivizes people to do all34000:21:52,679 --> 00:21:55,709kinds of cool stuff andpromotion around it. And that34100:21:55,739 --> 00:21:58,619and, and, and the tide lifts allboats.34200:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,620See, here's my, here's my,34300:22:03,090 --> 00:22:07,770you know, don't say fear. Don'tsay you can't handle that.34400:22:08,580 --> 00:22:11,700Here is my anxiety,34500:22:12,810 --> 00:22:14,610anxiety, oh, my god, okay,34600:22:14,670 --> 00:22:21,210that's even worse than fear. So,in one sense, you can say that34700:22:21,270 --> 00:22:25,590making playlists and becoming aplaylist, Curator or creator, or34800:22:25,590 --> 00:22:30,750whatever you want to call it isawesome. And that should be34900:22:30,780 --> 00:22:35,940rewarded with value. But then inthe other sense, it feels like35000:22:36,750 --> 00:22:42,870That way lies madness, becauseyou could imagine a popular35100:22:43,980 --> 00:22:50,820playlist curator, be likethrowing in an EPA in reference35200:22:50,820 --> 00:22:55,560to a remote item to let's justsay no agenda every single week.35300:22:56,220 --> 00:22:59,070And they're getting a cut, eventhough they're not really doing35400:22:59,070 --> 00:22:59,850any work.35500:23:00,390 --> 00:23:03,750Oh, nobody. I disagree. I couldnot disagree with you more.35600:23:04,439 --> 00:23:07,949I mean, like the fuse, let mehave it. I see that as value.35700:23:08,100 --> 00:23:12,690Thank you for exposing me toyour audience. As you can see my35800:23:12,690 --> 00:23:17,880remote item. Thing about BobSnicket Joker. I have reserved35900:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,2905% for anyone in the value blogfor anyone who puts this as a36000:23:22,290 --> 00:23:26,190remote item into their feed. Idon't know how that happens, but36100:23:26,190 --> 00:23:29,340that's what I want. I see it asadded value. Not not like36200:23:29,340 --> 00:23:32,970they're not stealing from me. Iwant to I want to cut them in.36300:23:34,050 --> 00:23:35,580Okay, just like an app.36400:23:37,110 --> 00:23:39,630Okay. Oh, okay. Well, there thatmay be your that.36500:23:40,020 --> 00:23:42,840I think you just have it ashabit as a fee.36600:23:43,439 --> 00:23:47,879stumbled upon the answer there.There could be a there can be an36700:23:47,879 --> 00:23:51,989entry. That's a certain type ofentry in the value block. This36800:23:51,989 --> 00:23:56,669says this that is for this thisfor it just a placeholder and it36900:23:56,669 --> 00:24:02,279says remote. I have no idea whatto call this. But when you parse37000:24:02,279 --> 00:24:06,029it, you say, Okay, this podcastpodcaster has just specified37100:24:06,299 --> 00:24:11,159that whenever somebody places areference to their episode into37200:24:11,459 --> 00:24:17,699a remote item list, and that'sthe source, they get X, whatever37300:24:17,699 --> 00:24:20,729it is a value, whether it's apercentage or hardcoded amount37400:24:20,729 --> 00:24:25,589or whatever, they get this so sothen you it's almost like a37500:24:25,800 --> 00:24:31,680variable. It's, it's what I calla slug, like insert your, your37600:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,730value block here.37700:24:33,750 --> 00:24:37,470Okay, yeah, and then this isjust like a place a placeholder37800:24:37,470 --> 00:24:40,860that can be that can meananybody that does this.37900:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,090Yes. Anyone who anyone who isusing this as a remote remote38000:24:45,090 --> 00:24:50,430item, you get 5%. And okay, sothis is where it gets beautiful.38100:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,040One of the things I've beenlooking forward to and comics to38200:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,780Blogger brought this up is tohave no agenda producers uh art38300:25:00,810 --> 00:25:06,000producers, I want them when wecheck pick their art I want them38400:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,470to automatically be added intothe value block into the into38500:25:10,470 --> 00:25:13,920the split, that with get Albieaddresses this is really easy38600:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,640every artist can can sign up forget Alby address. And what38700:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,210comics or Blogger did what Iasked you said, on the Art38800:25:21,210 --> 00:25:23,340Generator putting your profilethere because I looked at the38900:25:23,340 --> 00:25:26,220profile, I get the name, I haveto put that into the credits,39000:25:26,700 --> 00:25:29,700put your lb address in there andthen boom, if you're chosen,39100:25:29,700 --> 00:25:34,560I'll put you into the into thevalue block. So same way I'd39200:25:34,560 --> 00:25:40,650love to. Maybe it's overkill,but it seems like there's an39300:25:40,650 --> 00:25:44,310opportunity there. It's alldynamic stuff, basically. Right?39400:25:44,580 --> 00:25:49,500So maybe we're just making lifeharder that way? Well, now,39500:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,510because I'm thinking I wasthinking put a slug in for the39600:25:51,510 --> 00:25:55,020art and then that fog it I'll doit myself. I'll copy paste. It's39700:25:55,020 --> 00:25:59,700easy. Let's get the remote itemthing fixed. And I'll copy paste39800:25:59,700 --> 00:26:00,930until then. Well,39900:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,710I think what you're thinking,recursion as40000:26:04,710 --> 00:26:07,980everyone always, yeah, that'swhat I'm looking for.40100:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,560It's like what we did with freematerial editor where you could40200:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,750put these variables in there.And you could just generate a40300:26:12,750 --> 00:26:13,950template. Yeah, it would be40400:26:13,979 --> 00:26:17,069which I still use twice a week,but what more than twice a week,40500:26:17,069 --> 00:26:18,029several times a week.40600:26:18,630 --> 00:26:23,040And so that's, that can be Ithink we could forge a way40700:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,310forward with this one once weget the remote item in place.40800:26:26,310 --> 00:26:28,530Because this doesn't really haveto be part of the remote item40900:26:28,530 --> 00:26:28,950spec.41000:26:28,979 --> 00:26:32,249Well, but here's here's the nextthing because I think this flows41100:26:32,249 --> 00:26:37,679into in a weird way. Podcastevents.41200:26:39,510 --> 00:26:41,700Now we're gonna have JohnSpurlock on next week to talk41300:26:41,700 --> 00:26:42,090about that.41400:26:42,120 --> 00:26:45,090Oh, good as well. Good. But Ithink Sam Sethi is doing some41500:26:45,090 --> 00:26:47,700praise, like hinting about it onPotlatch. Oh, I got something41600:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,200special to talk about next week.41700:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,680Oh, cool. Yeah. All right. Yeah,let it41800:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,300slide it up, Sam. Okay, good.Well, I'm excited about the41900:26:57,300 --> 00:27:02,040podcast events that I'm startingto think about what that can42000:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,580mean, I think it's gonna be veryinvigorating. And I certainly42100:27:05,580 --> 00:27:10,710when it comes to audience doingstuff, and I see it from music,42200:27:10,710 --> 00:27:13,740too, I see all kinds of greatthings that can come from it.42300:27:15,180 --> 00:27:17,730And I want to thank all of thedevelopers for creating all42400:27:17,730 --> 00:27:20,610those great music apps. Youreally, really right on point.42500:27:23,610 --> 00:27:28,620Okay, oh, music. Yeah. Well,we're not done with remote42600:27:28,770 --> 00:27:30,180remote. I'm42700:27:30,180 --> 00:27:33,030sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't I waslike, Okay, done the cross that42800:27:33,030 --> 00:27:33,930off the list. I was42900:27:33,959 --> 00:27:37,709I'm going to come back to I'mgoing to come back to music mark43000:27:37,709 --> 00:27:45,659my sheet. remote, remote, yes.Just due to flesh this out. The43100:27:45,659 --> 00:27:52,469current is like, imagine a feedalright. Do you have pictured in43200:27:52,469 --> 00:27:53,729your mind an RSS feed?43300:27:54,330 --> 00:27:57,240You bet I dream of this all thetime.43400:27:57,660 --> 00:28:02,040Okay. Inside the channel, youknow, you have your various43500:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,490things like title, description,Link, language generator, all43600:28:05,490 --> 00:28:09,690that kind of stuff well, in thechannel have have a playlist of43700:28:09,690 --> 00:28:13,110what is going to be considered aplaylist, which is, you know,43800:28:13,110 --> 00:28:18,510just an XML feed full of remoteitems. You would also have a43900:28:18,510 --> 00:28:22,560medium in there as well. Amedium tag. Yeah. So that that44000:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,730gives you so here's, this is theother part of this issue. So44100:28:26,940 --> 00:28:33,360part of the struggle the appshave is when they hit a feed44200:28:33,360 --> 00:28:39,210that doesn't have any content init. Like content being defined44300:28:39,210 --> 00:28:40,830as item tags, ie an44400:28:40,830 --> 00:28:48,060anchor show. Sorry, man, I justgot to contribute to the44500:28:48,060 --> 00:28:49,740conversation somehow. No, I44600:28:49,740 --> 00:28:53,790endorsed this. By the way, whathappened to anchor it? They44700:28:53,790 --> 00:28:56,760don't know. Nobody even talksabout it's like they don't44800:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,150exist.44900:28:57,180 --> 00:29:01,560All they are is just a counterfor the Spotify press release.45000:29:01,620 --> 00:29:03,750How many? What's the number?What's the number anchor?45100:29:05,370 --> 00:29:06,420Puppet puppet puppet?45200:29:07,350 --> 00:29:09,870People what's what's the numberwhat you got up there? I45300:29:09,870 --> 00:29:18,390got it. That's all in it.Spotify doesn't even talk about45400:29:18,390 --> 00:29:24,450anchor anymore. It's like theydon't exist now. So the podcast45500:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,600like you can imagine that youwould need or it would be very45600:29:27,600 --> 00:29:34,230helpful to have a mediumdesignated for this type of45700:29:34,230 --> 00:29:39,420thing. So in this feed, theaggregator sees there's no items45800:29:39,420 --> 00:29:45,300in this thing. So there are youknow WTF. So then the chat the45900:29:45,300 --> 00:29:51,630channel tag within this feed canhave a medium of something like46000:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,540music L and the L means list. Sothere's a new set as part of the46100:29:57,540 --> 00:30:02,190Poke podcast remote items specThere will also be an update to46200:30:02,190 --> 00:30:07,590the podcast medium tag thatcorresponds to new types of46300:30:07,590 --> 00:30:13,440mediums. And the new mediumswould all be an L version of an46400:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,540existing medium type. So you canhave, you would have music l46500:30:18,570 --> 00:30:23,790podcast, l, audio book, l net,the elders means list. So this46600:30:23,790 --> 00:30:30,120feed, if it has a medium type ofmusic L is a playlist, a music46700:30:30,120 --> 00:30:36,990playlist. App can expect when itparses this feed, it can expect46800:30:36,990 --> 00:30:41,820to find a bunch of remote itemsin here that are music that are46900:30:41,820 --> 00:30:47,640of the medium type of music.Okay. So that that's going to47000:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,530help because right now, rightnow, you just don't decorators47100:30:52,530 --> 00:30:54,840that haven't any, it doesn'thave anything to47200:30:55,110 --> 00:30:58,110add does? No, it has no contextit does. There's no way I can47300:30:58,110 --> 00:31:00,900know because the medium tag ischannel level, you need to have47400:31:00,900 --> 00:31:02,610that item level for the remoteitem.47500:31:03,300 --> 00:31:11,970Right? Yes. So that's, that'sthe idea there and then remote.47600:31:12,930 --> 00:31:18,690So here's something that needsto be discussed. It feels like47700:31:18,720 --> 00:31:29,460there needs to be a new mediumof live, live brand and live L.47800:31:30,030 --> 00:31:35,340So for a list of live remoteitems, you get a remote, remote47900:31:35,340 --> 00:31:40,050item could reference a liveitem, which would be you maybe48000:31:40,050 --> 00:31:41,700you have a playlist48100:31:41,729 --> 00:31:46,289we are literally building anautomated radio station playout48200:31:46,289 --> 00:31:49,619system. This has literally beendeveloped48300:31:50,189 --> 00:31:53,159in detail. It's this is like adeep like the chef's have like48400:31:53,159 --> 00:31:57,419deconstructed chicken salad.Yeah. deconstructed playoff48500:31:57,689 --> 00:32:03,059system. Yeah. Okay. So that'swhat this mean? Do you agree? I48600:32:03,059 --> 00:32:03,689mean, if it feels like,48700:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,410I'm with you, and I'm gonna keepgoing, keep going. Yeah. So48800:32:07,439 --> 00:32:11,279if you have a list of, if youhave a medium type of live L,48900:32:11,399 --> 00:32:13,619then you have a list of risks.And then people could curate49000:32:13,619 --> 00:32:19,739lists of lives of live streamsthat they listened to, or that49100:32:19,739 --> 00:32:23,159are interesting, or related, orwhatever, and share those things49200:32:23,159 --> 00:32:27,809out. And then you can have, soit would be almost just like the49300:32:27,809 --> 00:32:32,699pod verse.fm live streams page.But you can handle you can49400:32:32,699 --> 00:32:37,079curate them yourself, and sharethem. And if you're, like we49500:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,119were talking about with thevalue stuff, if we can figure49600:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,809that part out the fun, find newlive streams and get value for49700:32:42,809 --> 00:32:42,869it.49800:32:42,900 --> 00:32:47,820I mean, you can also see if Ihave this right, you could49900:32:47,820 --> 00:32:53,850literally program a station,which consisted of individual50000:32:53,850 --> 00:32:59,340entities wherever they are. Andas long as they have, you know,50100:32:59,370 --> 00:33:05,970a stream, you can literally belistening to one, one feed, and50200:33:05,970 --> 00:33:09,720it'd be switching between thesedifferent live streams. Yeah, in50300:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,940real time. Yeah. That's prettycool. That's pretty cool.50400:33:15,449 --> 00:33:20,579Yeah, you can do and also itbecomes like a, like a radio50500:33:20,579 --> 00:33:23,879dial. I mean, like, you're youhave a list. Yeah,50600:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,170you can just and you know, what,what a concept to do a dial50700:33:28,170 --> 00:33:31,230instead of a list, just as a UIUX moment.50800:33:31,709 --> 00:33:34,949Yeah. Yeah. What they call thatskeuomorphism we can just go50900:33:35,249 --> 00:33:35,699back to this.51000:33:36,810 --> 00:33:40,200Yes, make it look like a radiodial, that'll work.51100:33:42,540 --> 00:33:45,600In the, like, you can justliterally, like pop back and51200:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,710forth between between radiostations in real time. On the51300:33:49,710 --> 00:33:51,060podcast on the podcast51400:33:51,060 --> 00:33:54,630app, you know, I gotta tell youthat 100% Retro guys there51500:33:54,660 --> 00:33:58,770beside themselves with with joyabout this. Because, you know,51600:33:58,770 --> 00:34:02,220some people are boosting to geta little boost here and there.51700:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360They definitely see the streamstream numbers, you know, this51800:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,130is very few. But you know, and Isee people even tweeting about51900:34:11,130 --> 00:34:15,060it like this kind of cool, whatthe hell is this thing? So it is52000:34:15,060 --> 00:34:18,630live and more as most of uslive, some of it may be tract52100:34:18,630 --> 00:34:20,010but it has a live feel to it.52200:34:21,690 --> 00:34:24,570Are you going to put in are yougoing to rearrange the fate so52300:34:24,570 --> 00:34:26,940that has a bunch of live items?Are you going to try that52400:34:26,970 --> 00:34:32,550technique? Because it feels likeyour feed is just a mad52500:34:32,550 --> 00:34:35,130laboratory of trying things forthis.52600:34:35,250 --> 00:34:40,860Well, that's my life. That's thelifestyle I've chosen. Stephen B52700:34:40,890 --> 00:34:49,410he posted he posted somethingthat some generator that is his52800:34:49,410 --> 00:34:52,500brain is already working. He'slistening so he'll come up with52900:34:52,500 --> 00:34:54,570something because the wholething is I just need a53000:34:54,570 --> 00:34:58,920programming thing. You know,that just fires at certain times53100:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,500and then hits the pod during thelive update,53200:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,290we'll discover and fades. Can ithandle multiple live items? And53300:35:07,860 --> 00:35:10,080yes, it can. Okay, I'm good.53400:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,710But I still need to hit turn itlive, I still need to switch it53500:35:13,710 --> 00:35:15,180live and republish the feed.53600:35:16,350 --> 00:35:19,740That's right. It's right. Or53700:35:19,770 --> 00:35:25,440orc. And that's something Iwould enjoy. Hey, I put curio53800:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,340caster and sovereign feeds in mysplits. You know, maybe they'll53900:35:29,340 --> 00:35:33,270have figured out a way toautomate that for me. You know,54000:35:33,300 --> 00:35:36,030it's, it's feed generationlogic.54100:35:37,350 --> 00:35:40,860Could you do it? And this is alloff the rails, but could you do54200:35:40,860 --> 00:35:46,620it from the icecast metadata?When you see that change, that54300:35:46,620 --> 00:35:48,180can regenerate the feed?54400:35:48,210 --> 00:35:53,010That was my that was my thinkingof after the fact. Well, but But54500:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,130yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'malso thinking, it makes so much54600:35:56,130 --> 00:36:02,160more sense. If we have an ingestformat, then people who use54700:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,540these playout systems can justexport, their their schedule.54800:36:07,860 --> 00:36:10,680And it should, and it lines up,I mean, obviously, if they get54900:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,720out of sync, then you know,that's their problem. But the55000:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,870whole idea is that it stays insync, and then it I mean, it55100:36:15,870 --> 00:36:18,240could even trigger, it couldeven trigger the pod ping, I55200:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,330mean, we have a way to go. Butwe'll get to that source where I55300:36:21,330 --> 00:36:24,930think it will just generate afeed, upload it that make the55400:36:24,930 --> 00:36:28,230changes, upload it, pod, ping,boom, good to good to go55500:36:29,190 --> 00:36:32,130to that. So the playout system,their playoff system, we just55600:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,660export, like a structured file,whatever,55700:36:36,660 --> 00:36:39,390whatever we need. Yeah, whateverwe need to ingest to make it55800:36:39,390 --> 00:36:39,870work.55900:36:40,140 --> 00:36:41,400Will it be JSON?56000:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,430I gosh, I hope so. But, but I'malso thinking, why couldn't the56100:36:47,430 --> 00:36:53,010playout system just generate theRSS feed? FTP at pod ping?56200:36:53,700 --> 00:36:55,200I don't know you know aboutthose play out.56300:36:55,260 --> 00:36:58,560I mean, do that. Why would theyhave all kinds of stuff like56400:36:58,560 --> 00:37:05,100that built in these days?Consultant let me let me if only56500:37:05,100 --> 00:37:09,150I knew a radio consultant. Yeah,I bet you don't know any of56600:37:09,150 --> 00:37:13,500those. I do. James Cridland he'sthe radio consultants. Alright,56700:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,830James marching orders. Isn't hethe radiologists? Let me see56800:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,700layer process strong. Oh, Iwould strongly recommend you do56900:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,310not use this configurationprogram will play out as running57000:37:23,310 --> 00:37:28,350continue anyway. Yes, of course.Of course. What could go wrong?57100:37:28,350 --> 00:37:31,680My pussy? Yeah, let me seeremote controls. That's the MIDI57200:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,980remote control what else kind ofremote control by okay. Let me57300:37:37,980 --> 00:37:43,170see advanced it has thesethings. Let me see the logging57400:37:43,830 --> 00:37:47,190database. I mean it has it has awhole database you know, you can57500:37:47,220 --> 00:37:49,860you can get into a database andjust export it57600:37:52,110 --> 00:37:56,220well, that I mean, that's justWell, there you go. I mean, I57700:37:56,220 --> 00:37:57,300mean, everything's there.57800:37:57,990 --> 00:38:01,980Yeah, you couldn't oh goodnessnearly done in there last year.57900:38:02,070 --> 00:38:06,180merilis. So you can do you canconnect to an iTunes database58000:38:06,210 --> 00:38:09,570you can connect to Sambroadcaster V four, which then58100:38:09,570 --> 00:38:12,420will pass your meta that meanthat's that's like an ice cast58200:38:12,420 --> 00:38:16,590streamer. So you can then streamthe metadata from your system.58300:38:16,920 --> 00:38:24,180You can just a script whateverthat is. Anyway, I get some info58400:38:24,210 --> 00:38:24,960this58500:38:25,109 --> 00:38:28,199Yamo Eric PP No, no, no, Ihandle please.58600:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,540Discard all changes and close.Yes. Okay. Does this. Oh shit.58700:38:33,570 --> 00:38:40,200Oh, fuck. Honestly, do I spellDr. Pepper hora. Oh, that's58800:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,820really bad. mush. Oh, no58900:38:41,850 --> 00:38:46,110chips. Yeah, it's in thekeyboard. Oh, oh, no. Disaster.59000:38:46,200 --> 00:38:56,280Yeah, hold on. Oh, I coulddoodle do. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh,59100:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,200no. Oh, no. Oh, no.59200:39:06,540 --> 00:39:08,430Oh, did you like that was thatwas a good?59300:39:10,380 --> 00:39:12,060I mean, I thought I was gonnahave to play the show out59400:39:12,060 --> 00:39:12,540myself.59500:39:14,490 --> 00:39:16,530Let me just rub this. Okay, so59600:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,500yeah, I think rub it out. Justrubbish. I'm59700:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,610just rubbing one out here. Dave.Give me a second. The show is59800:39:23,610 --> 00:39:30,090off the rails. And we have aheart out. The other day I59900:39:30,090 --> 00:39:33,750spilled. I broke a wineglass andit spilled over it and it was60000:39:33,750 --> 00:39:36,840kind of made my midi controllera little wonky.60100:39:37,740 --> 00:39:38,880Built it in the keyboard.60200:39:39,270 --> 00:39:44,040You both Yeah. Oh, that's verykeyboard and I have backups if I60300:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,180need but we're60400:39:45,180 --> 00:39:47,970gonna have to read it. We'regonna have to take away your60500:39:47,970 --> 00:39:49,380drink privileges within the60600:39:50,220 --> 00:39:53,250my own damn fault. I was horsingaround I shouldn't have done I60700:39:53,250 --> 00:39:56,010have special spots for drinks.It's almost like a cup holder.60800:39:56,010 --> 00:39:59,970But do I use it new love coursenow. Okay, let me see you soon.60900:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,470scissors. Okay, we're back.We're back in business. So yeah,61000:40:04,470 --> 00:40:08,400okay, so that's so that'ssomething that can be worked on.61100:40:10,500 --> 00:40:16,440I think we need to get theremote the remote item squared61200:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,590away and that'll start to playout and we'll we'll get there61300:40:19,590 --> 00:40:20,550when it's time right?61400:40:22,530 --> 00:40:25,620Yeah, was that a Diet Dr. Pepperno straight up Dr. Pepper the61500:40:25,620 --> 00:40:26,610real things straight.61600:40:26,610 --> 00:40:29,460It was a small can one of thoselittle minis? Because I don't61700:40:29,820 --> 00:40:31,950like a 10 ounce or something?Yeah, I don't really want the61800:40:31,950 --> 00:40:35,940poison. But to do this show, youknow, I'm stoned all day like61900:40:35,940 --> 00:40:36,840I'm gonna go sugar on62000:40:37,350 --> 00:40:41,010the phenol kid in neurowhatever. Yes, yeah. Yeah. So we62100:40:41,010 --> 00:40:44,520can do that. Yeah, that's that.One interesting thing about this62200:40:44,550 --> 00:40:49,920is that in we're gonna see moreof this over time, I believe.62300:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,580And so we've got to figure outhow to go down this road at some62400:40:53,580 --> 00:41:00,330point. Is the podcast good? Sothe way these remote items are62500:41:00,780 --> 00:41:01,740referenced?62600:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,850Oh, yeah, I have your own. Ihave a bad good.62700:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,270Do you? Oh, yeah. You're inKorean. The keeper?62800:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,220I don't know how that happened.But yeah.62900:41:12,360 --> 00:41:20,070So you the what a remote itemlooks like, is it is a it's got63000:41:20,220 --> 00:41:25,440three attributes. Two of whichare required ones. One's63100:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,230optional. So the it's got theitem good attribute, which is63200:41:31,230 --> 00:41:36,120the GU ID from the feed that isbeing referenced. That's fine.63300:41:36,630 --> 00:41:41,400For the most part, because youknow, that's the I think, as an63400:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,250industry, we've pretty much withApple coming on board to require63500:41:44,250 --> 00:41:48,660Gu ID now EPS enclosure episodelevel Gu IDs. I mean, you can63600:41:48,660 --> 00:41:50,880just say, Well, I mean, ifyou're not putting goods in your63700:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,380feed, you know, you don't get toplay at the party. Right? The63800:41:55,380 --> 00:41:59,550feed Gu ID is the one that'sgoing to have to be dealt with63900:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,790over time, which in the feedgood is a reference to the64000:42:02,790 --> 00:42:05,130podcast co lon Gu ID tag64100:42:06,750 --> 00:42:10,140that thank you for doing kolam.There's nothing in Britain.64200:42:12,900 --> 00:42:19,740So the podcast guid tag isactually been adopted quite a64300:42:19,740 --> 00:42:22,770bit. I mean, it's getting somereach. So64400:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,660it's really, it really needs tobe promoted as the ISBN of64500:42:27,660 --> 00:42:30,780podcasting. And people should dothis. I mean, and then we can64600:42:30,780 --> 00:42:33,390market it that way, people willsay, Oh, I really need to get64700:42:33,390 --> 00:42:38,430that. So that also means we needto surface easy to go in and say64800:42:40,170 --> 00:42:42,150what is this podcast good.64900:42:43,470 --> 00:42:47,460In that that's where I'm headed.So what? That's what there's65000:42:47,460 --> 00:42:52,200already in the API, an API,there's already a podcast by65100:42:52,200 --> 00:42:58,620GUID. API endpoint that willgive you that result. But it65200:42:58,620 --> 00:43:04,140feels like there needs to be itneeds to be something. This65300:43:04,140 --> 00:43:09,330almost needs to be a stand alonetype of thing. Where you can65400:43:09,330 --> 00:43:16,230just ask, you know, ask a whereyou can easily just grab a feed65500:43:16,230 --> 00:43:19,950URL of a Gu ID and not even nothave to necessarily use an API65600:43:19,950 --> 00:43:23,550call. I mean, it'll ultimatelyit ultimately everything's sort65700:43:23,550 --> 00:43:24,750of an API call, right? So65800:43:24,750 --> 00:43:29,310in a script, you just say,podcast GUID, this, and then65900:43:29,340 --> 00:43:33,180that, and then the script knowshow to get that information?66000:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,490Yeah, yeah. That's one of thethings it's really just for66100:43:35,490 --> 00:43:38,430developers, because you're lazyto type all the information and66200:43:38,430 --> 00:43:41,370you just want to token Am Iright? Am I right?66300:43:41,370 --> 00:43:44,880Yeah, yeah. So it could besomething as easy as a service,66400:43:45,480 --> 00:43:52,620where that's called like, Idon't know. That's good podcast,66500:43:52,650 --> 00:43:57,750Gu id.net, I don't know. Andthen you just give it in a slash66600:43:57,750 --> 00:44:00,960into GUID. And it just returnsnothing but the end, it just66700:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,100returns the feed URL. Like, likesome simple result, like a66800:44:05,100 --> 00:44:11,160resolver, not an API call. Ifeel like that's probably the66900:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,610way to go with this thing.Because the GU IDs are going to67000:44:14,610 --> 00:44:17,970become more of a thing. And thenwe're going to start referencing67100:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,520them more in these tags.67200:44:20,550 --> 00:44:22,860So are we going to be thecentralized resolver?67300:44:23,850 --> 00:44:26,550Well, I don't want to be thecentralized resolver owner on a67400:44:26,550 --> 00:44:32,190server but I mean, we could setup some sort of system like I67500:44:32,190 --> 00:44:34,860don't know if clubs or workersare single, whatever67600:44:34,860 --> 00:44:38,940we do, whatever we do before wemake any decisions. Let's make67700:44:38,940 --> 00:44:40,440sure we run it past GG67800:44:43,950 --> 00:44:49,530Yes, yes, God knows. If youdon't, there's hell to pay.67900:44:51,030 --> 00:44:53,520That's my one joke for todayabout it. Okay.68000:44:54,900 --> 00:45:00,630Yes, we must. It must be fullydecentralized. Whatever in68100:45:00,630 --> 00:45:03,330whatever way that that meanswhatever week way that that68200:45:03,330 --> 00:45:07,500means. So anyway, I don't knowabout that. I'm just it feels68300:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,180like I would like to hear68400:45:09,209 --> 00:45:12,179here's why. here's and here's aweird thing just just because68500:45:12,179 --> 00:45:21,629I'm weird could I make my mypodcast good? My lightning node68600:45:21,629 --> 00:45:24,359or my bitcoin wallet? Address?68700:45:27,630 --> 00:45:33,510Not the cording taka unit andthe year on let me look at the68800:45:33,510 --> 00:45:34,200spec Arnie68900:45:36,240 --> 00:45:40,230does it have to be a certainnumber of numbers or patches or69000:45:40,290 --> 00:45:41,010salted?69100:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,270It's it's supposed to it'ssupposed to be a V five Gu ID69200:45:46,050 --> 00:45:48,150excuse me a V five UU ID?69300:45:49,710 --> 00:45:53,220Oh, you know, you the compositeof a UU ID is different from69400:45:54,030 --> 00:45:55,650from a cryptographic address.69500:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,310Right. Yeah. Yeah, it looks alot different format. And I69600:45:59,310 --> 00:46:02,940think I'm afraid that if you didthat, it's not going to follow69700:46:02,940 --> 00:46:06,330the format, then it may get cutoff in certain databases. Okay.69800:46:07,530 --> 00:46:10,080Yeah, I don't think it'sprobably just better not to do69900:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,630that. Good. Yeah. So I'm thingis, I think a result, I would70000:46:15,630 --> 00:46:19,650like to know if other peoplethink a resolver of some sort is70100:46:19,650 --> 00:46:22,080probably the way to go. And thenhow to properly properly go70200:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,720about that in a way that weliked.70300:46:24,720 --> 00:46:28,800I really liked the idea. And Ithink it's critical that that we70400:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,720get that up and running. Becausethat is when you do that. Then70500:46:33,720 --> 00:46:41,190you can also have a GUID foralbums, songs. These are all70600:46:41,220 --> 00:46:44,280these are all important thingsto have that people can confine70700:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,350them based upon that detail.70800:46:47,220 --> 00:46:53,010Yeah. There's enough there'senough spread. Now. Buzzsprout70900:46:53,010 --> 00:47:00,090includes Gu IDs, who was castdos includes goods and all their71000:47:00,090 --> 00:47:04,860feeds. I have to look at thelist. But it's quite it's,71100:47:05,190 --> 00:47:08,640there's quite a lot. So I feellike we're there. And we're71200:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,190ready to sort of like flip theswitch and take the next step on71300:47:11,190 --> 00:47:13,890that. And then it will I mean,we'll have to because in remote71400:47:13,890 --> 00:47:17,850item will need it right. As longas we put it on. As long as71500:47:17,850 --> 00:47:20,970whatever form it takes is onhive, then there won't be any71600:47:21,180 --> 00:47:22,110push back ever.71700:47:22,170 --> 00:47:25,080So we're good to go. Yeah.71800:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,860I don't want to so funny. Okay,so I think we're good on remote.71900:47:31,860 --> 00:47:34,350And I think everybody probablyunderstands what that does.72000:47:34,980 --> 00:47:38,520Yeah, I like it. I really likeit. These are exciting things.72100:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,340So how does this move forward?Just this is the72200:47:42,930 --> 00:47:44,340basics just progresses.72300:47:44,370 --> 00:47:46,260Okay, good. Good. Yeah.72400:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,450It's on it's on the list. Andwe're so in Well, one of the72500:47:51,450 --> 00:47:57,570things Alex is finishing up the,the 2.0 version of pot of the72600:47:57,570 --> 00:48:00,030pod paying hive writer, andthat's going to have this stuff72700:48:00,030 --> 00:48:06,060in it through the socket. So wecan we can specify these72800:48:06,060 --> 00:48:08,370mediums, these list of mediumsand that kind of thing as part72900:48:08,370 --> 00:48:12,000of the schema. That'll be inthere. So we'll be good to go.73000:48:12,270 --> 00:48:13,710Nice. Yeah.73100:48:15,870 --> 00:48:17,940I don't want to keep going ifyou've got some you got anything73200:48:17,940 --> 00:48:20,910else that you want to insert? Idon't want to just steamroll.73300:48:21,780 --> 00:48:29,340Just Just go on a differenttopic for a minute. Go for the73400:48:29,340 --> 00:48:32,490squad cast patent, I think youand I have different ideas about73500:48:32,490 --> 00:48:34,710that. I wanted to see wherewhere you were at.73600:48:36,930 --> 00:48:41,730I just don't like it. I don'tlike it feels and I could be73700:48:41,730 --> 00:48:44,310completely wrong. I don't knowthis. I don't know those guys at73800:48:44,310 --> 00:48:47,190all. Other than Harry Duran, Iknow him. I was on his show. And73900:48:47,190 --> 00:48:48,930he seems like a really greatguy. I think he's like an74000:48:48,930 --> 00:48:52,170advisor or something. But Idon't really know anybody else74100:48:52,170 --> 00:48:52,650there.74200:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,130Well, let me ask you this. Howdid you interpret what you read74300:48:56,130 --> 00:48:56,760about it?74400:48:58,470 --> 00:49:07,350I interpreted it to be that theywere trying to hit a broad a74500:49:07,350 --> 00:49:13,410patent for something broad, thatwould be a natural evolution of74600:49:13,410 --> 00:49:19,590any product like that, in orderto carve out some mark in order74700:49:19,590 --> 00:49:21,840to code like basically put aline in the sand for their74800:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,800market share, because that's acrowded market. There's a lot of74900:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,220people there's a lot of playersin there like Riverside, clean75000:49:29,220 --> 00:49:30,660feed shoutcast75100:49:30,720 --> 00:49:32,940Did you have an opportunity toread the patent?75200:49:33,540 --> 00:49:38,220I read I read the the firstwhatever you call it, like the75300:49:39,030 --> 00:49:43,560the initial sizes, summary,probably summary, or any75400:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,310reasoning that he was likegiving us like something like75500:49:47,310 --> 00:49:50,610more broadly. And I can'tremember the exact wording and75600:49:50,610 --> 00:49:54,480that's what gave me pause. I waslike, Oh, wait, whatever the way75700:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,810that it was worded made methink, Oh, they're going to try75800:49:57,810 --> 00:50:02,370to come after anybody who Heuploads parts of a file and75900:50:02,370 --> 00:50:05,280stitches them together later ina way that doesn't lose the76000:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,890timestamping. Like, well, Imean, that just, that's the76100:50:10,890 --> 00:50:11,940word, but he's had to do that.76200:50:12,270 --> 00:50:17,310So the way I read it was, here'sthese problems. People have76300:50:17,310 --> 00:50:21,570solved these problems in certainways or not. We have solved76400:50:21,570 --> 00:50:24,120these problems in thisparticular way. And we're76500:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,310patenting our solution. I don'tthink you can, you can patent76600:50:30,720 --> 00:50:35,040the time to drift. Becausethere's too much prior art and76700:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,150people have done it. But justlike Apple, they didn't know76800:50:39,150 --> 00:50:44,550Apple patented, have passedpodcast patents they patented. I76900:50:44,550 --> 00:50:52,710think their namespace so. And Iread through all the blog posts77000:50:52,710 --> 00:50:56,790from squad cast and in what theywere doing, and it was it seemed77100:50:56,790 --> 00:51:00,690to me more really about theactual technology that they've77200:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,500or the algorithm or whateverthey've developed than anything77300:51:04,500 --> 00:51:10,320else, because it it, their wayof doing it is apparently very77400:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,280lightweight. And now you can doa lot more on mobile and other77500:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,710things that you couldn't dobefore but I did not read that77600:51:16,710 --> 00:51:19,770they were patenting the processitself.77700:51:22,170 --> 00:51:26,280says in the description, it saysthe invention in one form is77800:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,460directed to a method thatensures that recorded all the77900:51:29,460 --> 00:51:31,200Indian males are always except a78000:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,860method a method. Yeah, not themethod a method.78100:51:36,420 --> 00:51:42,600Okay, and so it gets in, save ithas saved the file. Okay. Well,78200:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,350I haven't read step by stepthrough this. And I may just be78300:51:46,350 --> 00:51:48,210ignorant about what can be.78400:51:48,540 --> 00:51:51,840And I understand that the kneejerk reaction, I'm not I don't,78500:51:51,990 --> 00:51:55,500I don't participate in thepatent system. But I'm certainly78600:51:55,500 --> 00:51:59,820not anti patent, I feel I amanti the abuse of the patent78700:51:59,820 --> 00:52:03,360system, which is what you werereferring to. But my initial78800:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,350reaction to that, I was actuallysurprised when I saw all the78900:52:07,350 --> 00:52:11,520posts about fuck these guys. Ihate patent trolls like hohoho.79000:52:11,910 --> 00:52:15,270Have we read this thing? And itto me, it was just like, Okay,79100:52:15,270 --> 00:52:18,630we figured out some some newingredient of how to do79200:52:18,630 --> 00:52:22,380something that other people aredoing, but our way it no one has79300:52:22,380 --> 00:52:25,020done. We want to patent thatbecause we want to take79400:52:25,020 --> 00:52:28,200commercial advantage of thatmoving forward. But I didn't79500:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,740really get any of the feelingthat they're out to potentially79600:52:31,740 --> 00:52:35,280protect their turf or squashothers. It seems like this is an79700:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,030innovation, at least what I readthat it's an innovation on what79800:52:39,030 --> 00:52:40,980is currently being done whichyou can patent.79900:52:42,660 --> 00:52:46,320So I guess one, I guess one wayto think about is what? Why80000:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,870would you in this? I'm notsaying this the right way. But80100:52:48,960 --> 00:52:57,720why would you patent somethingwhere you can't know if the80200:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,880patent is being violated or not?80300:53:00,750 --> 00:53:03,510What do you mean that this isexactly what patents are about?80400:53:03,510 --> 00:53:06,840Look at Silicon Valley, look atthe look at the lawsuits that80500:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,410did go back 10 years you usedour code here, you use their80600:53:10,410 --> 00:53:13,560code there. That, of course iswhy I don't use the patent80700:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,100system.80800:53:15,690 --> 00:53:19,020Well, I guess what I'm saying islike what? Coke, okay, so in80900:53:19,020 --> 00:53:22,950this instance, if they'vepatented, if What if what81000:53:22,950 --> 00:53:28,320they've patented is a specificalgorithm like, like step one,81100:53:28,350 --> 00:53:32,400do this, do you know, do thisfunction on this part part of81200:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,670the audio to do to look at thisstep two, blah, blah, blah. So81300:53:35,670 --> 00:53:39,390if, if, if that's if they'veessentially patented, what will81400:53:39,660 --> 00:53:47,970what amounts to pseudo code onhow to do a thing? Then how can81500:53:48,990 --> 00:53:53,430the only thing the only way theycan know when they see let's81600:53:53,430 --> 00:53:56,250just say that clean feed doesthe same at some point in the81700:53:56,250 --> 00:54:00,750future. Also, on the fly, uploadaudio to a Citroen to back to81800:54:00,750 --> 00:54:05,190the mothership, and stitches ittogether, then squad cast is81900:54:05,190 --> 00:54:10,530going to have to sue clean feedin order to get discovery on82000:54:10,530 --> 00:54:14,070whether or not their algorithmis the same as squad cast, which82100:54:14,070 --> 00:54:14,220is82200:54:14,220 --> 00:54:18,600a very risky business to be in.Because if you if you have a82300:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,530frivolous claim, then you canwind up paying for everything82400:54:22,530 --> 00:54:25,560first off the bat. And thenthere could be a counterclaim,82500:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,140if there's any suspicion thatyou were doing this on anti82600:54:28,140 --> 00:54:29,340competitive grounds.82700:54:30,690 --> 00:54:34,620Okay, all right. So that's sowould that be what it would be?82800:54:34,650 --> 00:54:37,080will students be anti consideredanti competitive?82900:54:38,190 --> 00:54:42,600What if if, if they if they juststart suing people look if you83000:54:42,630 --> 00:54:46,020if you sue people and you'rewrong, you definitely have to83100:54:46,020 --> 00:54:46,890pay the cost?83200:54:47,940 --> 00:54:51,210Right off the bat, right? Yeah,pay for the damages or whatever.83300:54:51,240 --> 00:54:51,630Well, you83400:54:51,630 --> 00:54:55,740got you got to pay lawyers fees,court fees, and then that can be83500:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,550that can be inconvenience fees,and then there could be Hey,83600:54:59,550 --> 00:55:02,820wait a minute. Do you guys wantto after us for no reason, I83700:55:02,820 --> 00:55:06,840think really what they'rethey're trying to protect. And I83800:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,170don't know, I don't use squadcast, I use clean feet, I like83900:55:10,170 --> 00:55:13,440clean feet, I certainly wouldn'twant anyone to have any, any84000:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,920issues. I just think that theyhave created something that84100:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,040they're saying Holy crap, thisis groundbreaking look at what84200:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,430we can do in a lightweight andeven mobile environment with84300:55:23,430 --> 00:55:29,430this stuff. And there's very,very specific about about that.84400:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,630And so they want to protecttheir competitive upside, which84500:55:33,630 --> 00:55:38,760I think is marginal. Now, itcould also be, just to be honest84600:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,620about it, that they're raisingmoney. And, and you know, the84700:55:43,620 --> 00:55:47,010final thing they had to do wasshow some patented technology.84800:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,670This is not uncommon. Yeah, thisis not uncommon. Oh, look, we84900:55:50,670 --> 00:55:54,240got we got into it. So they havesome patented technology. And85000:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,060now yeah, now you're better forsome investment. I mean, these,85100:55:57,150 --> 00:56:01,320there's a lot going on. I just,I'm a conspiracy therapist, and85200:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,690when I see one where I justthink, you know, everyone's kind85300:56:03,690 --> 00:56:06,510of going off on this. And let mesee what's happening. I just85400:56:06,510 --> 00:56:06,720felt85500:56:06,720 --> 00:56:08,700like you want to look at theother side, you want to look at85600:56:08,700 --> 00:56:11,520the other side, I always try tolook at all sides. Yeah,85700:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,940whenever it'd be, you'reessentially a betting line. When85800:56:14,940 --> 00:56:16,500everything's on one side, youlook at the other85900:56:16,950 --> 00:56:19,920100% That's the gig.86000:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,840No, I think that's I thinkthat's fair. I mean, it you86100:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,540know, I think I grew up, I grewup in the open source,86200:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,350generation of Sun Microsystemscoming after everybody has a86300:56:31,350 --> 00:56:35,640patent troll. Oh, sure, youknow, with the, with the SCO,86400:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,020Unix junk, and then, and thenthe podcast, that podcast,86500:56:40,110 --> 00:56:43,980patent troll from, you know,seven or eight years ago, it's86600:56:43,980 --> 00:56:48,510like, you've got so much of thisstuff that use it a bad taste in86700:56:48,510 --> 00:56:52,020your mouth. As soon as you seeit. It's like, don't, don't do86800:56:52,020 --> 00:56:52,500that,86900:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,710you know, Dave Weiner, and Ididn't patent anything on on87000:56:55,710 --> 00:57:02,430RSS, sort of not anything onpodcasting, none of that. If we87100:57:02,430 --> 00:57:06,900had you, and I most likely wouldnot be sitting here talking and87200:57:06,930 --> 00:57:12,060the people might not even knowwhat a podcast is. And what I've87300:57:12,060 --> 00:57:16,350discovered is I like the, theopen way I like, you know, if87400:57:16,350 --> 00:57:19,560you want to call it Foss, butyou know, whatever this project87500:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,910is, because I know that justfrom the experience of RSS,87600:57:24,090 --> 00:57:28,080throughout its its inception,I've made millions of millions87700:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,560of dollars, millions have spentmore but millions of dollars.87800:57:33,750 --> 00:57:36,060And I don't think I ever wouldhave gotten that in any in any87900:57:36,060 --> 00:57:37,230patent fees.88000:57:37,860 --> 00:57:44,550No, no, yeah. Not at all. Well,kind of in a related note, if we88100:57:44,970 --> 00:57:49,440I chose licenses for thenamespace88200:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,240I saw you got88300:57:53,310 --> 00:57:57,870that much. The choice I made wasliterally with I mean it was it88400:57:57,870 --> 00:58:00,930can be boiled down to justrolling some dice. And just88500:58:00,930 --> 00:58:04,350seeing what came out the otherend I have no idea. I just use88600:58:04,350 --> 00:58:07,830the same thing that I alwaysuse, which is first things like88700:58:07,830 --> 00:58:11,190this. I think it was theCreative Commons. It was the one88800:58:11,190 --> 00:58:15,690that basically does everythingit puts it in public domain but88900:58:15,690 --> 00:58:19,350in a safe way. It was thatcreative commons one is the Do89000:58:19,350 --> 00:58:20,910you think that's the right oneto go with?89100:58:21,030 --> 00:58:25,110I as you know, I've defendedCreative Commons in court and I89200:58:25,110 --> 00:58:27,780one where do I see the license?89300:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,770It's on the on the podcastnamespace on GitHub. Let me flip89400:58:34,770 --> 00:58:38,850back up here. It's on the righthand side is the CC zero dash89500:58:38,850 --> 00:58:40,6201.0 license I see89600:58:40,620 --> 00:58:42,900CCS zero what is it?89700:58:43,770 --> 00:58:47,820CC zero 1.0 Universal licensepoint oh,89800:58:49,080 --> 00:58:55,740I see what it entails Yeah, letme go let me see public let me89900:58:55,740 --> 00:59:00,450just see what the protection isno copyright. Okay, the person90000:59:00,450 --> 00:59:02,580who associated work dedicatedthe work to public domain90100:59:02,580 --> 00:59:06,840waiving all of his rights youcan copy modify, distribute in90200:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,480no way is in no way or thepatent or trademark rights of90300:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,630any person affected unlessexpressly state otherwise versus90400:59:12,990 --> 00:59:20,760power by bah. So where's theprotection this this is just90500:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,630it's me You can copy modify,distribute and perform the work90600:59:24,660 --> 00:59:27,150even for commercial purposes allwithout asking permission.90700:59:29,610 --> 00:59:33,210I mean, that sounded like theway to get it because I've90800:59:33,210 --> 00:59:35,100always heard you don't want toactually do you don't want90900:59:35,100 --> 00:59:37,620actually want to use publicdomain you want to use a license91000:59:37,620 --> 00:59:39,690that gives you public domain ina safe way.91100:59:41,550 --> 00:59:45,330Yes, where you you can say Ihave this document that says I91200:59:45,330 --> 00:59:45,930can use it.91300:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,280Yeah. It says limitedpermissions commercial use91400:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800modification, distribution,private use limitations,91500:59:52,830 --> 00:59:56,700liability trademark use patentuse and warranty. Where's that?91600:59:57,090 --> 01:00:00,600I don't see that. That's at thetop of the page like it's GitHub91701:00:00,600 --> 01:00:06,210giving you like a little alittle rundown? If, if you're on91801:00:06,210 --> 01:00:09,540the live if you go to podcastnamespace slash licensed.md91901:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,160That's the92001:00:11,190 --> 01:00:14,040Oh yeah. Oh, this is actuallythe whole thing is pretty long.92101:00:14,070 --> 01:00:16,410It's good. Yeah. No, that'sgood. Okay. That's what we want.92201:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,080Yeah. Here no trademarks orpatent rights. Yeah, this is92301:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,410good. Okay. All right. I thinkthat's perfect. I love Creative92401:00:22,410 --> 01:00:24,990Commons. I'm a I'm a fan. Ithink it's it's the way to go.92501:00:24,990 --> 01:00:29,670I've used it I've again, I'veI've used it to defend assholes92601:00:29,700 --> 01:00:32,610against the assholes. I mean,oh, and it worked.92701:00:33,179 --> 01:00:36,479Yeah, it was that the Dutchphotographer stuff? Yeah, they,92801:00:36,809 --> 01:00:37,079yeah, they92901:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,349took pictures from my Flickr atthe time, which were all in93001:00:40,349 --> 01:00:42,869Flickr, I put them on Flickr,because you could mark them with93101:00:42,869 --> 01:00:46,679a Creative Commons license. And,and you're printing them on the93201:00:46,679 --> 01:00:49,559front page of the gossipmagazines. And I said, Well,93301:00:49,589 --> 01:00:52,139what are you gonna pay me? Theylaughed, I said, Okay, I sue93401:00:52,139 --> 01:00:59,339them. Now, you know, and youhave to understand that in a93501:00:59,789 --> 01:01:02,069socialist country, they're notgoing to give you some big93601:01:02,069 --> 01:01:04,769award, but I said, Look, this iswhat I think it would be worth.93701:01:05,339 --> 01:01:11,309And so they gave, they gave meno reward or award. But if it93801:01:11,309 --> 01:01:14,879ever happens again, it's someridiculous amount of like,93901:01:14,939 --> 01:01:19,16910,000 euros per copy per day,you know, I would be a94001:01:20,009 --> 01:01:20,729millionaire.94101:01:21,390 --> 01:01:22,740Brian of London level money.94201:01:23,069 --> 01:01:26,489I basically don't show up in anymagazines ever again, like94301:01:26,489 --> 01:01:30,749curry. He's like kryptonite man,which is, which is mission94401:01:30,749 --> 01:01:32,999accomplished. I would saymission accomplished.94501:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,390Yeah, that's, that's That's it.They beat the intern. But if he94601:01:36,390 --> 01:01:42,930tried if he tries to push themthen on the CMS Yeah. Buzzsprout94701:01:43,140 --> 01:01:46,170removed all the email addressesfrom their feeds. Would you say94801:01:46,170 --> 01:01:46,470that?94901:01:46,620 --> 01:01:50,280I saw the announcement. Yeah.Yeah. So that there's like,95001:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,460click here or forever hold yourpeace? Yes.95101:01:53,610 --> 01:01:57,540So I feel like that means acouple of things like,95201:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,480well, there goes half my income.How are we going to spend95301:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,490podcasters with my great deals?95401:02:02,910 --> 01:02:07,620Oh, I know, I know with withyour beef initiatives that95501:02:07,620 --> 01:02:09,450you're clearly a founder95601:02:09,450 --> 01:02:13,440of Yes. Oh, obviously, the Ohcoordinates. Yeah, I got I got95701:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,710points and everybody's deal.Sure. That's me. I'm not an95801:02:16,710 --> 01:02:19,770advisor. Actually, I am anadvisor. I'm an unpaid adviser95901:02:19,770 --> 01:02:22,020of beef advisors. Right? That'sright.96001:02:22,920 --> 01:02:28,650So pod ping allows it so the waythey're doing it, I thought this96101:02:28,650 --> 01:02:31,710is interesting to bring up. Theway they're doing it is they're96201:02:31,710 --> 01:02:36,510removing the The email addressis not going to be in there. And96301:02:37,380 --> 01:02:40,980we made a change to the locktag, because previously email96401:02:40,980 --> 01:02:46,530address was required for thelock tag. Not right. We made it96501:02:46,530 --> 01:02:50,340optional. And I'm not reallysure why we ever made it mandate96601:02:50,430 --> 01:02:51,630require just went96701:02:51,630 --> 01:02:54,120in there. And without a vote youjust willy nilly change96801:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,080something in the in the holynamespace? Yes, excellent work.96901:03:00,420 --> 01:03:06,930Somebody stopped me. And I waslike, wow, I kept thinking, I97001:03:06,930 --> 01:03:08,700was like, there must have been areason there must have been97101:03:08,700 --> 01:03:13,620reason we did this. It made itrequired. And for the life of me97201:03:13,620 --> 01:03:16,710could not check and can'tremember and require and97301:03:16,710 --> 01:03:19,800required things are likekryptonite anyway. So that you97401:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,230don't, you don't ever want touse them unless you actually97501:03:22,230 --> 01:03:26,370have, like this supreme reasonthat makes sense to everybody.97601:03:27,209 --> 01:03:29,879We can remember if we can't evenremember them. It's97701:03:30,750 --> 01:03:34,170ridiculous. Yeah. So removethat. And that allowed them to97801:03:34,170 --> 01:03:39,330take that out of the law tech.So the, the pot, so they're97901:03:39,330 --> 01:03:43,590going to remove that. And I'mjust saying they can, they're98001:03:43,590 --> 01:03:45,270not going to be in there. Butthen you're gonna have the98101:03:45,270 --> 01:03:49,530option in their dashboard toturn it on for 24 hours. And98201:03:49,530 --> 01:03:53,670then we'll put it back in there,send a pod ping, we will report98301:03:53,670 --> 01:03:57,000the feed, suck the email addressin if it's if we don't have it.98401:03:57,300 --> 01:04:01,620So the neat there's like afilter. So I think we need to98501:04:01,620 --> 01:04:07,470clean clean the database. Whenan email address is removed. I98601:04:07,470 --> 01:04:10,170don't think the code iscurrently doing that.98701:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,480Oh, yeah. Well, of course youwant to do that. Yeah, well,98801:04:12,510 --> 01:04:17,100yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we don'twant that if we don't want it98901:04:17,130 --> 01:04:22,260otherwise. Or Or you still havesome value. I'm good. bundle99001:04:22,260 --> 01:04:22,890that shit up.99101:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,620Yeah, so yeah, we can makeplaylists out of it. Just you99201:04:28,620 --> 01:04:34,920know, get get websites forspamming people's email. The99301:04:35,460 --> 01:04:39,030Yeah, so that I think that's aOh, one other thing I did. And99401:04:39,030 --> 01:04:43,710this may be interesting. Istarted sucking in some music99501:04:43,710 --> 01:04:48,360medium tags for this longrunning music analysis project.99601:04:49,620 --> 01:04:51,870How many how many days is thatbeen running?99701:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,360Many? I don't know how.99801:04:55,170 --> 01:04:57,900I'll bet you you're probablylike 30 or 40% through it all.99901:04:57,900 --> 01:04:58,680If that.100001:04:59,070 --> 01:05:02,070I don't know where else Alex ison his because we split the load100101:05:02,070 --> 01:05:02,820half in half.100201:05:02,970 --> 01:05:05,820And I'm wondering what you'redoing just so everyone knows.100301:05:06,240 --> 01:05:13,770Yeah. Okay, so we're, we wrote atool called Slurpee that will100401:05:13,770 --> 01:05:19,410bring, they will suck down allof the enclosures, it'll suck100501:05:19,410 --> 01:05:22,770down all the the most recentenclosure from each feed in the100601:05:22,770 --> 01:05:28,140database in the index and saveit as an mp3 file in the file100701:05:28,140 --> 01:05:33,930system. Then another, a Pythonscript comes along behind it,100801:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,430that does like a machinelearning algorithm to detect100901:05:38,430 --> 01:05:45,870whether or not the mute theaudio in that mp3 is music or101001:05:45,870 --> 01:05:49,770speech in and then it flags oneor the other. So it just goes101101:05:49,770 --> 01:05:52,680through and does that allthrough. It actually gives it101201:05:52,680 --> 01:05:59,010three categories it gives it itgives it classifies it as either101301:05:59,010 --> 01:06:04,080music. Maybe, which is kind oflike maybe music but I'm not101401:06:04,080 --> 01:06:09,150sure time to review or nothing.Yeah, or nothing. Yeah. So the101501:06:09,270 --> 01:06:17,610out of I am on podcasts indexIDX 628,774. So I'm going101601:06:17,610 --> 01:06:22,710through up to 2 million. Andthen Alice has started at 2101701:06:22,710 --> 01:06:25,380million and is going to gothrough to the end.101801:06:25,710 --> 01:06:30,060There's a lot I'm looking at thecurio Castro music tab. There's101901:06:30,060 --> 01:06:34,230more in here. Okay, definitelymore than than the last time I102001:06:34,230 --> 01:06:37,290looked. Let me see. Let me seehow many there it looks like I'm102101:06:37,290 --> 01:06:40,020missing a few like where didApril Kirby go?102201:06:41,310 --> 01:06:44,010Oh, yeah. Okay, so this is yeah,this is from what I started.102301:06:44,010 --> 01:06:49,440Yep. Yeah, this is me puttingthese these in here. So what I'm102401:06:49,440 --> 01:06:54,300started doing this morning, islet's just say you queue102501:06:54,300 --> 01:07:02,280stories. The key is, we're gonnahave to, we're gonna have to as102601:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,060run some sort of verification onthis. Because I'm already seeing102701:07:06,060 --> 01:07:08,340a few that may have beenmisclassified. You mean102801:07:08,340 --> 01:07:09,240conversations102901:07:09,240 --> 01:07:17,790with a chef? Let's see whatlet's see why the AI this would103001:07:17,790 --> 01:07:20,910be one of the reasons let's seehow long the intro song is.103101:07:23,160 --> 01:07:24,210Hi, and welcome to103201:07:24,210 --> 01:07:27,870another episode of conversationwith the chef. I'm Joe Ricci.103301:07:28,110 --> 01:07:30,780And I love sharing with you theconversations I get to have with103401:07:30,780 --> 01:07:34,530talented and passionate chefs.Interesting she had to mute her103501:07:34,530 --> 01:07:38,070mic is so tinny sounding italmost sounds like it's part of103601:07:38,070 --> 01:07:39,660the part of the song103701:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,040I wonder if you keep going inthat episode. Is there a Music103801:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,240Bed through the whole thing?103901:07:45,270 --> 01:07:50,640I'll bet you there is not muchand although we'd like to sit104001:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,610Yeah, absolutely not the wholething but the first104101:07:54,690 --> 01:07:57,780and then lots of backgroundnoise for that that first few104201:07:57,780 --> 01:08:02,250minutes man ai i can't waituntil it's controlling my car so104301:08:03,690 --> 01:08:08,910good machine ml everybodymachine learning104401:08:09,930 --> 01:08:14,400jealousy there's a bunch ofthings are clearly music but104501:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,460yeah, wrapped out radio waswrapped out radio everybody.104601:08:17,490 --> 01:08:18,900Let's check it out. Ooh, they104701:08:18,900 --> 01:08:20,550talk to me. You talking about104801:08:21,089 --> 01:08:25,109talking about dropping a beatbaby go home picking up. Yeah,104901:08:25,109 --> 01:08:30,179nice, man. It's good stuff. Igotta listen to I'm already105001:08:30,179 --> 01:08:32,639digging this. There's some goodstuff. I'll bet where's this?105101:08:33,539 --> 01:08:39,719See what's the what's thewebsite? There's, I wonder where105201:08:39,719 --> 01:08:42,029it's coming from? Is that comingfrom SoundCloud? Some of the105301:08:42,029 --> 01:08:42,509stuff.105401:08:43,020 --> 01:08:45,540Yes, all of this is actuallycoming from SoundCloud what I've105501:08:45,570 --> 01:08:48,870done what I'm doing right now inin in in an effort to get some105601:08:48,870 --> 01:08:52,320content in there for people tostart playing with for music105701:08:52,320 --> 01:08:56,670apps. I'm trying to go ahead andsuck in some some of these ones105801:08:56,670 --> 01:09:01,170that we feel pretty good about.But to make that even more105901:09:01,170 --> 01:09:04,290accurate, I'm just I'm onlydoing the ones that are on106001:09:04,290 --> 01:09:07,410SoundCloud for now if they havea SoundCloud URL, I'm going to106101:09:07,410 --> 01:09:10,620mark those with them within ifthey're on SoundCloud URL in the106201:09:10,650 --> 01:09:15,180in the the the machine learningwas really confident that it was106301:09:15,180 --> 01:09:20,370music. I'm gonna I'm gonna markthose right, there's about nine106401:09:20,640 --> 01:09:31,980out of 628,774 it has found sofar. 9775 So, I mean, this is106501:09:31,980 --> 01:09:39,120really just I want to say thatwe we know from talking to some106601:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,860other people that there aredefinitely going to be music106701:09:44,250 --> 01:09:47,400podcasts coming down the pipesoon.106801:09:47,430 --> 01:09:52,260Oh, yeah. Let me just check thisthing. What is this? I? Yeah, we106901:09:52,260 --> 01:09:58,560back. Me and Darren.Interesting. I got to say, Oh,107001:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,490this is because people haven'tentered To bite length I get107101:10:02,490 --> 01:10:07,350zero minutes one second but it'san hour. Oh, I see. Yeah. Anyway107201:10:07,380 --> 01:10:12,000okay, Dave I love this stuffman. I love this stuff I love107301:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,230this this is so cool107401:10:13,230 --> 01:10:17,280ending on random music interfacefor a podcast app or a music107501:10:17,279 --> 01:10:19,979based your life just got a heckof a lot easier as what we're107601:10:19,979 --> 01:10:21,089saying yeah, you got107701:10:21,089 --> 01:10:27,089content now and then if you evenif you have even thought about107801:10:27,089 --> 01:10:30,119doing that I encourage you toplease go ahead and start coding107901:10:30,119 --> 01:10:31,739something because it's gonna108001:10:31,740 --> 01:10:35,130go fast it's gonna have aninflux go ahead and say we're108101:10:35,130 --> 01:10:36,900gonna have an influx coming108201:10:37,440 --> 01:10:40,080yeah that's not that's not justa prediction That's for real108301:10:40,110 --> 01:10:40,470Yeah.108401:10:41,100 --> 01:10:48,540Blood force locked down restedvolatile mix cool super duper108501:10:50,220 --> 01:10:53,580I love this what is air you onthe curio caster pages that were108601:10:53,610 --> 01:10:56,100Yeah, the music and musicTennessee number three from the108701:10:56,100 --> 01:10:58,710Top Gun. Guns you undergroundradio?108801:10:58,739 --> 01:11:03,449Sure do. Let's give it a shot.I'm Joe hippie now. Gongfu short108901:11:03,449 --> 01:11:05,459Dushane mix present day109001:11:07,020 --> 01:11:08,520present time109101:11:10,110 --> 01:11:10,860nice109201:11:18,510 --> 01:11:20,820man, people doing some creativestuff.109301:11:21,300 --> 01:11:24,390Oh, yeah. This is a way to getout there. This is really cool.109401:11:24,390 --> 01:11:26,610All new opportunity. Man just109501:11:26,610 --> 01:11:30,420think anyone could help them.vie for V enable their feeds109601:11:31,980 --> 01:11:34,140wouldn't take much they can doit themselves. They can go to109701:11:35,220 --> 01:11:36,840podcast a wallet.com109801:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,520I don't. I don't know if you've.Let's see. Is there anything109901:11:41,520 --> 01:11:47,160else on music? See? Now Oh,yeah. Well, here's what I guess110001:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,790one more thing on music is? Howdo we want to go about there's110101:11:50,790 --> 01:11:53,550gonna be some cute humanvalidation of these things to110201:11:53,550 --> 01:11:56,850weed out the ones that aremisclassified. And how do we110301:11:56,850 --> 01:12:01,230want to do that? is sure to be aUI for that or what? Well,110401:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,900podcast events110501:12:07,079 --> 01:12:08,669Oh, this this110601:12:08,670 --> 01:12:12,090song is is this this feed ismisclassified?110701:12:13,020 --> 01:12:15,690Oh, okay, that's a good idea.Actually.110801:12:15,930 --> 01:12:16,830That's why I'm here brother.110901:12:20,940 --> 01:12:23,550Sir, you've you've proven yourutility111001:12:24,630 --> 01:12:27,180should we think a few peopleconsidering Do we have a heart111101:12:27,180 --> 01:12:31,860out in 45 minutes? Well, we dowe have a heart out we have we111201:12:31,860 --> 01:12:35,550got stuff to do. I can't believewe you accepted this invitation111301:12:35,550 --> 01:12:36,000time we should111401:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,280have said I'm no years old.Every time you say heart out it111501:12:38,280 --> 01:12:39,060makes me giggle.111601:12:39,930 --> 01:12:45,570Here's what's been coming inlots of lots of live booths, we111701:12:45,570 --> 01:12:49,290really appreciate that value forvalue this entire project. It's111801:12:49,290 --> 01:12:51,990all run by the people whosupport it and they support it111901:12:51,990 --> 01:12:54,840because it get value from it andthey send it back to us. So I'm112001:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,420do it through PayPal. We'll talkabout that in a moment that you112101:12:57,420 --> 01:13:01,020can get to it podcast index.orgAnd of course we want you to112201:13:01,020 --> 01:13:03,990have an app that has a boostbutton. If you don't quickly112301:13:03,990 --> 01:13:09,870have a look up go to nudepodcast app.com and select a new112401:13:09,870 --> 01:13:14,640one for nude one. Freudian slips5000 SATs Can you explain why112501:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,990the transcripts dot SRT spec isonly 2032 character line112601:13:18,990 --> 01:13:22,860lengths? I can't find an exportoption with Wasko or whisper to112701:13:22,860 --> 01:13:25,200manipulate line length orsegment length.112801:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,010Then I do I need that even means112901:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,180well it's the it's the output Ithis is something I don't know.113001:13:33,300 --> 01:13:37,770Well maybe someone can boost ananswer floydian slips again 5000113101:13:37,770 --> 01:13:40,950Here's some stats to buy new Dr.Pepper. Although with all these113201:13:40,950 --> 01:13:44,160native ads, you probably have asolid cache of soda. Oh yeah,113301:13:44,190 --> 01:13:48,960sure. Native. Sure. Yeah, that'sme, Mr. native ad. Oh, what is113401:13:48,960 --> 01:13:55,320this donation? In honor ofepisode 200 of grumpy old bands113501:13:55,320 --> 01:14:00,120and in case you need a newkeyboard from Aaron Oh 500,000113601:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,830SATs bolo.113701:14:02,790 --> 01:14:05,46020 is Blaze only Impala.113801:14:06,659 --> 01:14:12,569Do I get a t shirt now? He says.Yes, you do. Yes. Yes, you do.113901:14:12,569 --> 01:14:17,549And he ends up with a gopodcasting. Thank you very much.114001:14:18,150 --> 01:14:21,840Yes. Just send me your Darrenjust send me your T shirt size114101:14:21,840 --> 01:14:22,920and your address. I'll get youone.114201:14:23,340 --> 01:14:27,690Thank you, brother. That's verycool. Yeah, Carolyn Carolyn114301:14:27,690 --> 01:14:32,370comes in with 18,888 No suchthing as too off the rails when114401:14:32,370 --> 01:14:38,820it comes to podcasting. 2.0 runwith scissors. One on One one114501:14:38,820 --> 01:14:42,360from hard hat 3333 fromblueberry but my county says114601:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,740it's 18 live shows per week onthe no agenda stream. Well,114701:14:46,740 --> 01:14:48,660that's pretty good. I'd saythere's a lot to be done.114801:14:48,660 --> 01:14:53,370They're 23 and live items 2300from floydian slips enjoying my114901:14:53,370 --> 01:14:56,730curio Castor wallet. Anyonelistening should do the same. A115001:14:56,730 --> 01:15:08,670row of ducks 22222 So two Only2222 from Eric P. 1419 48. From115101:15:08,670 --> 01:15:12,300Brian of London pod ping ispinging and hive is living. Yes,115201:15:12,300 --> 01:15:18,090it is. More ducks for the pond2222 from Mike Dell, the bird is115301:15:18,090 --> 01:15:22,680free. Oh yeah, well, I'll justsay it right now. Don't be all115401:15:22,680 --> 01:15:27,300don't get too all giddy aboutTwitter being free. Because I'm115501:15:27,300 --> 01:15:30,240gonna I'm gonna tell you rightnow what's coming next, you will115601:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,960be forced to verify youridentity. It's the only way you115701:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,460can get rid of the spam and thebots. And then the fun is over.115801:15:38,490 --> 01:15:41,670Because you can get sued forsaying things for trolling, you115901:15:41,670 --> 01:15:44,850can do things that are wrong incertain countries. Certainly.116001:15:45,329 --> 01:15:49,199Did you see what Elon said whenhe posted his open letter to116101:15:49,199 --> 01:15:53,789Avatar advertisers? Did you seethat? No. He said, he said a116201:15:53,789 --> 01:16:01,169lot. But he said, no doubt. Aspart of it. He said, I also very116301:16:01,169 --> 01:16:04,169much believed that advertisingwhen done right can delight,116401:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,099entertain and inform you. It canshow you a service or product or116501:16:08,099 --> 01:16:10,229medical treatment that you neverknew existed but is right for116601:16:10,229 --> 01:16:13,229you. Right for this to be true.It is essential to show Twitter116701:16:13,229 --> 01:16:16,979users advertising that is asrelevant as possible to their116801:16:16,979 --> 01:16:22,379needs. Low relevancy ads arespam. But high relevant ads are116901:16:22,379 --> 01:16:26,999actual content. Fundamentally,Twitter aspires to be the most117001:16:26,999 --> 01:16:30,539respected advertising platformin the world that strengthens117101:16:30,539 --> 01:16:33,539your brand and grows yourenterprise. Let's build117201:16:33,539 --> 01:16:35,159something extraordinarytogether.117301:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,490No, okay, that's fair enough.Sounds good. Like,117401:16:38,489 --> 01:16:41,789that's good. But, I mean, if youthink about it, in terms of117501:16:42,179 --> 01:16:46,949monetizing the network, youcan't get high relevancy from117601:16:46,949 --> 01:16:49,469the network itself withoutinvading people's privacy.117701:16:49,890 --> 01:16:54,180That's the only way and he willhave that and, and the117801:16:54,180 --> 01:16:58,320government will love it. Andlawyers will love it and the fun117901:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,780will be over the trolling willbe over. If it's not anonymous,118001:17:00,780 --> 01:17:02,010it's not going to be fun.Anyway,118101:17:02,100 --> 01:17:04,530they're gonna they're gonna be abetter Facebook than Facebook.118201:17:05,280 --> 01:17:10,110Dude, Facebook is so dead. It'snot even funny. They're the only118301:17:10,110 --> 01:17:13,260halfway down and they only havea billion dollars in free cash118401:17:13,260 --> 01:17:15,240flow they generated that's118501:17:15,239 --> 01:17:17,699a problem. That's not good atall.118601:17:19,050 --> 01:17:25,1703333 from servo boosting fromChrome tab 33,333 from blueberry118701:17:25,170 --> 01:17:28,530self hosting a mastodon instancehas been most excellent join us118801:17:28,530 --> 01:17:31,890at spooked dot social, whereinstead of boosting posts you118901:17:31,890 --> 01:17:35,460can glow them like a true spook.Stay tuned after no agenda this119001:17:35,460 --> 01:17:43,350Sunday for a lit behind thescheme's all goats must go yeah119101:17:46,170 --> 01:17:53,010sure. 2022 for Macintosh rowwith ducks. Thank you we have I119201:17:53,010 --> 01:17:56,100think that is it. Yeah, thoseare our live booth sweep. And of119301:17:56,100 --> 01:18:00,990course, you can follow along andcurio Kassar curio caster.com or119401:18:01,020 --> 01:18:06,030get your alerts right there inpod verse, pod verse.fm. Or you119501:18:06,030 --> 01:18:08,910have to go get the app and ofcourse the pod verse, dot F m119601:18:08,910 --> 01:18:11,430slash live stream page, which isvery cool. And thank you all so119701:18:11,430 --> 01:18:14,640much for supporting us early on.Pre boosting before we even got119801:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,750to the donation segment.119901:18:17,430 --> 01:18:23,910There are 730 830-940-4010 MyGod 40 234 of us120001:18:25,500 --> 01:18:30,480don't have 52 Do do you? We gotto have cut offs. Dave 16. Too120101:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,820many too many. You got to cutoff man. You got to start120201:18:32,820 --> 01:18:35,580cutting off at 10,080120301:18:35,609 --> 01:18:41,519I'm trying to add up all thesestreams 12345 streaming, what120401:18:41,519 --> 01:18:41,969streams120501:18:41,970 --> 01:18:43,890are you doing? I thought youwere adding up number of120601:18:43,890 --> 01:18:46,440donations and like we can't doad donations.120701:18:46,530 --> 01:18:50,550No. I mean, there's there'sOkay, that would that was 90.120801:18:50,700 --> 01:18:55,590Auburn citadel. Sin us. Okay,we're gonna have to come back to120901:18:55,590 --> 01:18:59,610this. I'll do pay pal. First hehe's got his stream amount set121001:18:59,610 --> 01:19:03,900to 3333 He's streaming is 3333 aminute.121101:19:03,930 --> 01:19:07,380Just do you think he realizesthis? And he did it last week121201:19:07,380 --> 01:19:07,710too. He's121301:19:07,710 --> 01:19:10,080got to realize it. Surely he'sdone because he'd have to121401:19:10,080 --> 01:19:10,800reload.121501:19:11,670 --> 01:19:13,530Holy guacamole is121601:19:13,530 --> 01:19:17,820crap. I will we'll do math onthat in a second. Let's see we121701:19:17,820 --> 01:19:22,290got some. We got some somepapers starting off Buzzsprout121801:19:23,340 --> 01:19:24,330$500.121901:19:24,390 --> 01:19:29,610Ah Sakala 20 is blades on amPaula122001:19:29,610 --> 01:19:32,910so appreciated. Caller thank youso much.122101:19:33,900 --> 01:19:37,080Thank you guys. Thank you, Tom.so much, guys. Thank you, Kevin.122201:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,010In the crew at Buzzsprout. Thankyou every month for that.122301:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,220Yeah, thank you for thinking ofus. Yes, we do. Yes we do.122401:19:44,940 --> 01:19:48,300Also our buddy, Oscar atfountain122501:19:48,449 --> 01:19:53,639sorry. This is I just opened inthe world. That's the that's the122601:19:53,639 --> 01:20:00,419Alby Saturn interface you can goto live and so it's shows you122701:20:00,419 --> 01:20:04,469boosts but it also shows you theper per minute so I was looking122801:20:04,469 --> 01:20:06,779to see if I can see the 3330there's122901:20:09,029 --> 01:20:11,219I thought you're playing SubwaySurfers to get us some more123001:20:11,249 --> 01:20:12,209download numbers123101:20:12,210 --> 01:20:17,070and this page has I have to sayso massive, massive confetti123201:20:17,070 --> 01:20:20,190flying all over it whensomething comes in it's it's123301:20:20,190 --> 01:20:24,930quite spectacular. Oh mygoodness.123401:20:26,279 --> 01:20:31,889Our buddies big spurt. Oscar andNick over fountain gave us $200123501:20:31,889 --> 01:20:34,709They do this every month. I'lldo we're very appreciative.123601:20:34,739 --> 01:20:35,999Yeah, not an advisor.123701:20:36,750 --> 01:20:37,830Not not a paid advisor.123801:20:39,930 --> 01:20:42,960Thank you so much. Oscar. Youhave been chatting with Oscar a123901:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,320little bit about Bitcoin in theUK.124001:20:46,470 --> 01:20:50,280He also said that they're oncehe's done with all this this124101:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,530most recent round ofimprovements. They're going to124201:20:52,560 --> 01:20:53,430work on lit.124301:20:54,329 --> 01:20:57,299Oh, that'd be good. That'd begood. That's a big missing piece124401:20:57,299 --> 01:21:01,199there for them. Yeah, it'sbecause I messaged you because124501:21:01,199 --> 01:21:05,669you don't if you saw it, the UKhad some like they've had some124601:21:05,669 --> 01:21:06,899regulations come.124701:21:07,530 --> 01:21:12,180I was not. Not not followed orwhat happened? What was the was124801:21:12,180 --> 01:21:12,690the rag?124901:21:13,409 --> 01:21:17,789I asked him what he thoughtabout and he said he thinks is a125001:21:17,789 --> 01:21:21,989net positive. I don't rememberthe exact details. Take a look.125101:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,199Yeah, they he thinks that hethinks it was a good thing.125201:21:26,609 --> 01:21:31,649Jennifer Navarette. She stillhas not said how to pronounce125301:21:31,649 --> 01:21:34,229her name. But she continues tocome in every week.125401:21:34,230 --> 01:21:36,180It's okay. That way.125501:21:37,050 --> 01:21:39,390$30 this week,125601:21:39,420 --> 01:21:41,460thank you. Very appreciated.125701:21:41,940 --> 01:21:45,360First, thank you. Podcasting hasnew life because of podcast125801:21:45,360 --> 01:21:50,040index and 2.0. Y'all rock. This30 is for the 30 upcoming125901:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,730episodes of podcasting in theblockchain, which is part of the126001:21:53,730 --> 01:21:58,890November 1, the 30th Nationalpodcast post month mush national126101:21:58,890 --> 01:22:06,480podcast post month challenge,aka not pod Pomo hashtag. I aim126201:22:06,480 --> 01:22:09,600to teach folks a bit about thebeautiful blend of podcasting126301:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,2402.0 and web three, it's magic.126401:22:12,269 --> 01:22:13,799Nice to hear.126501:22:15,239 --> 01:22:19,199Thank you, Jennifer. Appreciatethat. And we get $20 donation126601:22:19,199 --> 01:22:21,869from digitex solutions. No notebut thank you.126701:22:21,900 --> 01:22:26,010Thank you digitary Which doeshelp this just keep servers126801:22:26,010 --> 01:22:27,630running? This is reallyappreciated.126901:22:28,140 --> 01:22:31,380Yeah, we did lose. We lost a $20monthly subscribers.127001:22:31,500 --> 01:22:36,990Yeah, people. Apparently PayPaljust snuck their $2,500 fine127101:22:36,990 --> 01:22:40,980right back into their acceptableuse policy and just Oh, yeah,127201:22:41,010 --> 01:22:42,300it's in there. Yep.127301:22:43,050 --> 01:22:47,280Are you kidding me? No, no nonews at all. They just came127401:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,240right back and no127501:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,230reporting on it as you notice.It's important to note it's127601:22:52,230 --> 01:22:58,050important to note the under thePay Pal terms and conditions you127701:22:58,050 --> 01:23:03,030may not post right speak fartnegatively about Pay Pal.127801:23:03,060 --> 01:23:08,340Otherwise, that is grounds forthem to cut you off. Just127901:23:08,340 --> 01:23:10,200letting you know. Yeah.128001:23:10,350 --> 01:23:11,520Well, that's that's a128101:23:11,580 --> 01:23:14,790that's long term policy. They'vehad that policy for a long time.128201:23:15,330 --> 01:23:18,000Let's do a riff in this way. Itis in sports, too. If you128301:23:18,060 --> 01:23:21,000badmouth the referee or theconference that you're a part of128401:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,570you get you get heavy, heavyfine, like they can they can128501:23:25,290 --> 01:23:27,690smack you down. So got on.128601:23:28,409 --> 01:23:32,159Yeah, but 2500 bucks right outof your bank account is a little128701:23:32,159 --> 01:23:35,399different than being smackeddown. It's like, that's a lot of128801:23:35,399 --> 01:23:35,939money.128901:23:36,510 --> 01:23:41,970Now, that's no, that's, I mean,that would be devastating. So we129001:23:41,970 --> 01:23:46,110don't yeah, that's like threemonths worth of donations. Well,129101:23:46,110 --> 01:23:51,000it's not just that if you readthe language, if you support129201:23:51,630 --> 01:23:57,180something that promotes dismissinformation, you know,129301:23:57,210 --> 01:24:01,710terrorism, whatever else, youcan get dinged as the financial129401:24:01,710 --> 01:24:02,160year129501:24:03,089 --> 01:24:04,949and you also get the 2500 hit129601:24:05,520 --> 01:24:10,920you get the $2,500 hit it's notthe recipient necessarily if you129701:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,110are funding that yes129801:24:15,420 --> 01:24:19,800it's it stands me that they didit and then apologized and said129901:24:19,830 --> 01:24:23,250oh no, no, we didn't mean to andthen immediately went back and130001:24:23,250 --> 01:24:23,940did it again130101:24:23,970 --> 01:24:28,500doesn't does it as does itreally it doesn't really130201:24:28,500 --> 01:24:29,250surprise you.130301:24:31,079 --> 01:24:35,429That kind of does honestly thatthat does because they were so130401:24:36,209 --> 01:24:41,759like I don't know they were solike anonymous apologetic but130501:24:41,759 --> 01:24:44,489they were like oh no, no, no, wedidn't meet that wasn't supposed130601:24:44,549 --> 01:24:48,209to be that was just a draftproposal. Some wording. I don't130701:24:48,209 --> 01:24:52,109think that no one does surpriseme. Yeah. That they came back130801:24:52,109 --> 01:24:53,579within just went right back inthere.130901:24:53,909 --> 01:24:57,779None of this surprises me. Thisis why we got together two and a131001:24:57,779 --> 01:25:03,509half years ago. Yeah. None of itsurprises me all right we got131101:25:03,509 --> 01:25:03,959any more131201:25:03,989 --> 01:25:05,969prepare for the future but youdon't like to see happen.131301:25:06,719 --> 01:25:10,049I think it's exciting that eventhough we got her we got her131401:25:10,079 --> 01:25:15,479pretty pretty good by by peoplecanceling PayPal. Those are the131501:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,799Sustaining monthly donationsthey matter. They matter. Six by131601:25:19,799 --> 01:25:23,639the way we celebrated 15 yearsof the it's the celebrate the131701:25:23,639 --> 01:25:28,01915th anniversary week this weekfor no agenda. Happy birthday.131801:25:28,079 --> 01:25:30,869Thank you. It was it's it youknow what the hard part about131901:25:30,869 --> 01:25:33,989value for value? It's hard afterall these years and for all the132001:25:33,989 --> 01:25:36,959value that people have provided.I'm talking and of show mixers,132101:25:36,959 --> 01:25:41,669artists, I mean, you know, youcan't thank everybody. And if132201:25:41,669 --> 01:25:47,099you try you, you'd misshundreds. It's possible. Yeah,132301:25:47,129 --> 01:25:51,179but it's anyway. Yes. We made it15 years, we're still alive.132401:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,440Do you have access to acalculator? I do. Can you132501:25:55,440 --> 01:26:00,120calculate what 3333 times 108is?132601:26:00,930 --> 01:26:09,090Okay. 3333 times 108 359,964132701:26:09,480 --> 01:26:12,090Bagram citadel? Yeah. Oh.132801:26:13,260 --> 01:26:17,070SATCOM Sakala 20 his blades onlyImpala132901:26:17,550 --> 01:26:20,970nice so I don't think he had thestreaming set for that. I think133001:26:20,970 --> 01:26:23,130it was just he was boostingwithout a boost to Graham.133101:26:23,850 --> 01:26:25,620Every minute. Yeah, why133201:26:25,620 --> 01:26:29,280not? It wouldn't it wouldn'tshow up in your list if it133301:26:29,280 --> 01:26:30,150wasn't a boost133401:26:34,260 --> 01:26:38,790you may be right how did he I'mgonna have to invent this this133501:26:38,790 --> 01:26:41,130is calls for investing Where didhe Where did where did he boost133601:26:41,130 --> 01:26:43,410from what app fountain133701:26:46,350 --> 01:26:47,610maybe just kept hitting it133801:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,700huh? I'm gonna have this disrequires investigation. I'm133901:26:53,700 --> 01:26:54,750gonna get to the bottom of theweb,134001:26:55,140 --> 01:26:57,210minus 30 minutes for your heartout.134101:26:59,610 --> 01:27:04,320That's what that means speed up.Really Schonfeld? 54321.134201:27:05,520 --> 01:27:12,000And may I say? The latest breezeupdate? Oh, my goodness. The134301:27:12,030 --> 01:27:14,970Have you have you used breezesince update?134401:27:15,810 --> 01:27:18,960I have not opened it. But I knowthat it notified me that I134501:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,240needed to because it said mychain was out of sync.134601:27:21,270 --> 01:27:27,870You will love it. It feels likea feather. Oh, it is so fast. It134701:27:27,870 --> 01:27:31,050is it things are just it feelslike it's like I don't know134801:27:31,050 --> 01:27:33,480what, I can't even explain it.But of course, you know, I use134901:27:33,480 --> 01:27:37,410all these apps. So you feel thatdifference? The payments work135001:27:37,410 --> 01:27:41,220faster, or at least what'sshown. It's good is and the135101:27:41,220 --> 01:27:43,560podcasting features are kind ofcoming up there and is that135201:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,080really working hard or making agood podcast app in it?135301:27:46,829 --> 01:27:50,429Okay, I just opened in Linuxsync and then I'll use it on way135401:27:50,429 --> 01:27:55,169back to the office. Rosenfeld54321 Thank you, Roy.135501:27:55,530 --> 01:27:55,890Roy.135601:27:56,220 --> 01:28:01,890Yeah 10,000 SAS from absurddidn't note thank you absurd135701:28:01,890 --> 01:28:06,600isn't 2222 from coal McCormick,he says boosting while having my135801:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,510nightly dessert, frozenblueberries and raw cream from135901:28:09,510 --> 01:28:11,610rural farms in Fresno,California.136001:28:12,750 --> 01:28:24,030Ducks. 5552 from Satoshi streamwill smiley face. And another136101:28:24,030 --> 01:28:29,160one for 5252 Excuse me 5582 FromSatoshi stream in the Gnosis136201:28:29,310 --> 01:28:37,410speaking slowly as hard. It is.Mere Mortals podcast is our136301:28:37,410 --> 01:28:40,710friend chyron. He says long formand unedited are my favorite136401:28:40,710 --> 01:28:45,420podcasts by far. One and I alsoregularly call each other out on136501:28:45,420 --> 01:28:50,010and off air for the repetitivenon useful words. Like is a136601:28:50,010 --> 01:28:52,890serial offender for me. And theclassic Aussie positive136701:28:52,890 --> 01:28:55,170negative. Yeah, no or no. Yeah.136801:28:55,740 --> 01:29:00,270Yeah, no. This I think relatesto the conversation we had about136901:29:00,270 --> 01:29:06,690the editing the decent roofediting tool, I think. Yeah. And137001:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,510there's one of the things Iwanted to mention about that. I137101:29:09,510 --> 01:29:17,790hear in regularly, I'd say maybeonce every 10 days out here, an137201:29:17,790 --> 01:29:20,940edit that was not picked up,which I think is the fault of137301:29:20,940 --> 01:29:25,230the script. And I'm not sure ifit's a bug. And I and I hear137401:29:25,230 --> 01:29:29,460James do it a lot. And I heardone on pod news this week. Yeah,137501:29:29,490 --> 01:29:32,400I hear them all the time. Andhe'll he'll pick it up but then137601:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,700it wasn't corrected and the Editwasn't made. And I wonder if137701:29:35,700 --> 01:29:39,840it's, it could be where you'reif you're just reading. If137801:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,720you're just reading thetranscript and you're making137901:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,110your edits that way it may bevery easy to miss a double word,138001:29:46,110 --> 01:29:49,950you know, end of end of previousline beginning of the next line.138101:29:50,460 --> 01:29:54,660That's what it sounds like alittle bit sometimes when you138201:29:54,660 --> 01:29:58,590read it as a perfect sentence.Use your ears, people138301:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,270I like I like it when thathappens because I get to laugh138401:30:03,270 --> 01:30:04,830at him in the car while I'mdriving.138501:30:05,369 --> 01:30:07,619Why are we even that you'reright our secret little138601:30:07,619 --> 01:30:14,459humorous? Guilty pleasure. Yes.ruined it ruined it.138701:30:15,300 --> 01:30:19,410Okay. That was 22 to 22. FromKaren. Thank you guys.138801:30:19,650 --> 01:30:24,420Appreciate you all anonymous1337 says, what if? What if you138901:30:24,420 --> 01:30:27,930shift some of the opinions andthoughts on GitHub issues into139001:30:27,930 --> 01:30:29,250GitHub discussions?139101:30:29,819 --> 01:30:32,219I think that magazine trendedYeah, I think, given this139201:30:32,219 --> 01:30:34,259discussion, yeah, absolutely.Good idea.139301:30:34,739 --> 01:30:39,719I'm taking that that approach offeral apothecaries and as 1400139401:30:39,719 --> 01:30:43,199SAS they found a no note. Thankyou, feral apothecary. True.139501:30:43,259 --> 01:30:49,589True ghee. True grits. Truegrits. Since 17010. That's the139601:30:49,619 --> 01:30:53,909Star Trek boost was 1701 saysyou have got to bring Chris last139701:30:53,909 --> 01:30:57,029from Jupiter broadcasting backon about this very subject of139801:30:57,029 --> 01:30:59,489using the Lightning Network totransform software development.139901:30:59,669 --> 01:31:02,219I know this is something that hehas had a lot of thoughts on140001:31:02,219 --> 01:31:05,279over the past few months. Ialways was glad to have140101:31:05,279 --> 01:31:10,139Christmas. Yeah, for sure me.Boost. Permanent invitation.140201:31:10,409 --> 01:31:14,369Farrell, apothecary 20 202Fountain No, no note again. He's140301:31:14,579 --> 01:31:22,199got Hey citizen through podverse 6969. And the note here is140401:31:22,499 --> 01:31:24,959DROP TABLE gimlet semicolon140501:31:31,199 --> 01:31:34,079we've got another one from acitizen 6969 says Drop140601:31:34,079 --> 01:31:37,469tablespace podcasting underscoreindustrial underscore complex140701:31:37,469 --> 01:31:44,489semicolon 16 I did a bit of alittle bit of database humor140801:31:44,489 --> 01:31:49,739there. Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Yes.10,000 SATs from Sir. Doug go140901:31:49,739 --> 01:31:59,309podcasting. Thank you sir. Coralhummingbird says 69,420 SATs141001:31:59,309 --> 01:32:01,019through breeze. Wow. I141101:32:01,020 --> 01:32:05,370think we should get a little alittle big boost. Maybe a boost141201:32:05,370 --> 01:32:06,690boost boost. Thank you.141301:32:07,020 --> 01:32:09,720Well, that matches up just finebecause of coral hummingbirds141401:32:09,720 --> 01:32:14,160node is developers developersdevelopers. Boost boost. You141501:32:14,160 --> 01:32:14,640felt it?141601:32:14,880 --> 01:32:15,870I did I guess141701:32:17,399 --> 01:32:24,659Steve Webb OG God casters 77777.Their fountain the striper141801:32:24,659 --> 01:32:29,429boost. That's right. The work hesays the work of PC 2.0 is141901:32:29,429 --> 01:32:31,379changing the world at the speedof science.142001:32:32,730 --> 01:32:38,460Yeah, we're getting the the ohwhat's it called Dave the family142101:32:38,490 --> 01:32:44,550the family of ah, that hugepodcast network they got 3142201:32:44,550 --> 01:32:49,290million Focus on the Family.Focus on the Family. Yeah. So142301:32:49,290 --> 01:32:51,480we're helping them out a littlebit you more than me because you142401:32:51,480 --> 01:32:53,760know all this stuff better. Butyou figured out what their142501:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,490problem was? I didn't quiteunderstand the problem, I guess.142601:32:57,029 --> 01:32:59,909Yeah. Dewpoint no bringingbringing them along.142701:33:00,569 --> 01:33:03,809That's a big God cast network.Congrats to142801:33:03,810 --> 01:33:06,600everyone who has contributedtheir time talent or treasure to142901:33:06,600 --> 01:33:10,200make it happen. Thank you. Iinvite all to join me as we read143001:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,020through the Bible in a year ataudio Bible dot link go143101:33:13,020 --> 01:33:13,710podcasting?143201:33:13,770 --> 01:33:15,390Indeed go podcast143301:33:19,050 --> 01:33:25,440this is 2020 52 sets from thetone wrecker. I mean like143401:33:25,440 --> 01:33:30,420record. That sounds like a likea wrestler like a WWE thing. Oh143501:33:30,420 --> 01:33:40,470the tone. Thinking no note fromthe tone record 40 A 407 says143601:33:40,470 --> 01:33:43,980from Brian of London and hiveDao and V for V app and he says143701:33:43,980 --> 01:33:46,890I can't say much more but welargely won our little court143801:33:46,890 --> 01:33:50,340skirmish last week. Meta won'tget too creepy personal details143901:33:50,340 --> 01:33:51,210they asked us for144001:33:51,510 --> 01:33:53,610are you better hurry up man thatcould be out of money by the144101:33:53,610 --> 01:33:54,960time you win all that crap144201:33:58,050 --> 01:34:00,120would that not be the biggestkick in the crotch?144301:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,570It would be horrible if theycompletely went bankrupt just at144401:34:03,570 --> 01:34:07,980the time when and by the way, ifBrian wins, they will bankrupt144501:34:08,130 --> 01:34:10,650they will be big they will bebankrupt yes144601:34:12,750 --> 01:34:15,330we're safe guys. We got $100billion in the bank we got144701:34:15,360 --> 01:34:22,140injured the GM Brian comes alongand bingo. Dobby dice 21 Oh 12144801:34:22,380 --> 01:34:25,620Oh nice. 21,012 sets thefountain and he says boost144901:34:25,619 --> 01:34:28,319and that is a rush boost boost.145001:34:29,729 --> 01:34:32,939It violates that is intended tobe a rush boost. I've got a145101:34:32,939 --> 01:34:33,659yellow card.145201:34:33,689 --> 01:34:34,919That's right flag.145301:34:35,579 --> 01:34:42,749There's like a row in there.Yes. And 2222 for Macintosh row145401:34:42,749 --> 01:34:45,419ducks Macintosh. Nope.145501:34:46,979 --> 01:34:48,209Got your ducks right here.145601:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,010And finishing up with thedelimiter comma street blogger.145701:34:53,640 --> 01:34:59,25015,033 Sassy says howdy DavidAdam. live happy. And by the145801:34:59,250 --> 01:35:02,520way, a warm humbly invite youand your audience to listen to145901:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,610the podcast about artificialintelligence neighbor narrated146001:35:05,610 --> 01:35:09,630by the British voice of GregoryWilliam Forsythe Forman, the TV146101:35:09,630 --> 01:35:13,440show developer. Just enter AIdot cooking in your web browser146201:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,780or in your podcast player app.Yo.146301:35:20,069 --> 01:35:23,999jasa, thank everybody. Thankyou, everybody for your support146401:35:24,029 --> 01:35:29,399of the show. Good numbers. Nice.Nice boost today. Oh, I love146501:35:29,399 --> 01:35:33,179that. Thank you so much thevalley. And so this is the value146601:35:33,179 --> 01:35:37,109return. And this is how itshould work. And it's not going146701:35:37,109 --> 01:35:40,019to be much more than three or 4%of the people who participate in146801:35:40,019 --> 01:35:43,439the project, listen to thepodcast, but everybody can146901:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,979participate in many differentways, providing value back to147001:35:46,979 --> 01:35:49,229podcast and to porno, and thankyou so much.147101:35:49,859 --> 01:35:54,029We get some get some monthliesto finish that off. And it's pod147201:35:54,029 --> 01:35:57,029news. James over there upon yousend us $50 Thank you, James.147301:35:57,719 --> 01:36:02,909Well, Shawn McCune $20 JeffMiller $20 And by the way, Jeff,147401:36:02,909 --> 01:36:06,869I looked, Jeff has beensupporting us with a $20147501:36:06,869 --> 01:36:08,999subscription since September of2020.147601:36:09,359 --> 01:36:15,299Hey, there's something wronghere. But I can't What is this?147701:36:15,929 --> 01:36:20,849It's very sad news. I just got alive boost from Sam Sethi.147801:36:21,599 --> 01:36:26,45910,000 SATs. Another great showguys can't wait for the Spurlock147901:36:26,459 --> 01:36:31,409interview. But it's goodbye frompod land episode 100. Next week148001:36:31,529 --> 01:36:32,879is our last one.148101:36:33,689 --> 01:36:34,889Whoa, what?148201:36:35,550 --> 01:36:39,480I what I understand148301:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,770this is they must be I heard148401:36:43,769 --> 01:36:46,919him joking on the show. I'mlike, maybe they're changing the148501:36:46,919 --> 01:36:51,749format or something. Don't getme all. If this is your idea of148601:36:51,749 --> 01:36:55,709some kind of promotional itemwhere you get me all emotionally148701:36:55,709 --> 01:36:59,849involved. Because I like podland is one of the podcasts I148801:36:59,879 --> 01:37:02,519listened to religiously. I'mpissed off when it doesn't come148901:37:02,519 --> 01:37:03,479in on Thursday.149001:37:04,229 --> 01:37:07,499Guys, it's it's October 28 isnot April 1. This is not149101:37:07,499 --> 01:37:08,069appropriate.149201:37:09,000 --> 01:37:14,730Anyway, if it is, then you know,Sam, I'll do a podcast with Sam.149301:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,920I have I have another I have aday somewhere don't I?149401:37:17,489 --> 01:37:18,689Yeah. Wednesday.149501:37:22,290 --> 01:37:23,700Thank you, Sam. Appreciate that.149601:37:24,630 --> 01:37:28,350Cone gloss bucks in his $5Christopher Raymer $10 James149701:37:28,350 --> 01:37:34,680Sullivan $10 Jordan Dunnville$10 Paul Saltzman $22.22 Paul,149801:37:35,430 --> 01:37:40,440dribs Scott $15. Also asubscription since September of149901:37:40,440 --> 01:37:45,0002020, almost as the beginning,Michael Kimmerer $5.33 Lesley150001:37:45,000 --> 01:37:51,420Martin $2 Pedro con calvess $5.And also since September 2020,150101:37:51,420 --> 01:37:53,820Aaron Renaud $5150201:37:54,060 --> 01:37:59,520Thank you all so much forsupporting podcasting 2.0 Boost150301:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,060more often boost booths, people.150401:38:04,649 --> 01:38:08,909Do you know just on a lark?Well, we're at 211150501:38:08,939 --> 01:38:14,429we have we have 90 minutes tomanage 19 for the heart. Ouch.150601:38:18,329 --> 01:38:19,949Thanks, control room. Thanks,150701:38:20,280 --> 01:38:25,110Rob. Just for just for giggles.I pulled our download numbers150801:38:25,110 --> 01:38:26,040from the OP three.150901:38:26,670 --> 01:38:29,490Oh, good, because I want to Ihad a question about that. Yeah.151001:38:29,490 --> 01:38:32,550So what range and what did youdo? What did we get here?151101:38:32,970 --> 01:38:38,610And then while he's printed thisout looks like just a few off151201:38:38,610 --> 01:38:43,050the off the cuff stats here. Sowe got our biggest podcasting151301:38:43,050 --> 01:38:46,500two point or the podcast Nippon2.0 app that people listened to151401:38:46,500 --> 01:38:55,170us the most honest fountain andthen we'll see looking through151501:38:55,170 --> 01:38:58,920so we got this fountain willobviously apples to the Apple151601:38:58,920 --> 01:39:05,010podcast app fountain, GoogleChrome. That's number two. So151701:39:05,010 --> 01:39:08,670Chrome is the second most it'sprobably curio Castro, but I151801:39:08,670 --> 01:39:12,240would think so. Yeah, probablyPocket Cast is right behind that151901:39:12,240 --> 01:39:16,620then antenna pod, podcastaddict, overcast.152001:39:17,429 --> 01:39:23,039And how many Apple will seeseeing an apple it's only up to152101:39:23,039 --> 01:39:25,589seven. So it's very low on thescale.152201:39:26,550 --> 01:39:30,180Is the Apple iPhone generic isprobably the streaming so it's152301:39:30,330 --> 01:39:33,000it's somewhere. I'm thinkingthat somewhere probably around152401:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,5502500 app, Apple podcasts.152501:39:36,359 --> 01:39:38,489And this is over what period?152601:39:39,479 --> 01:39:43,349This is for. I just picked oursteak and eggs episode one. Oh,152701:39:43,409 --> 01:39:45,899just one episode. Oh, so howmany total?152801:39:46,649 --> 01:39:54,509How many total was flipped overhere? 7355. There are 99 of152901:39:54,509 --> 01:39:55,559those were bots.153001:39:56,489 --> 01:39:58,469How many? Seven 7000 usin.153101:39:59,100 --> 01:40:02,790That's that's Total downloads.And so if you it's going to be153201:40:03,060 --> 01:40:09,270rearranged is somewhere around1400 I think and so I think the153301:40:09,270 --> 01:40:13,920total true number is around4000.153401:40:14,550 --> 01:40:17,580Now sounds good. Sounds aboutright. This more than I thought153501:40:17,580 --> 01:40:18,090actually153601:40:18,689 --> 01:40:22,079get a little more than thatthought to. But then our, our153701:40:22,079 --> 01:40:25,739most will see we Chicago isstill the first that's probably153801:40:25,739 --> 01:40:29,459just an artifact within Dallas,maybe get some regional stuff is153901:40:29,459 --> 01:40:33,929cool. Yeah, just curiosity. Morethan anything,154001:40:33,989 --> 01:40:37,169because I think how manyepisodes have no agenda have I154101:40:37,169 --> 01:40:38,189put up there now?154201:40:39,569 --> 01:40:42,119Quite a few. Yeah. We haven'tthat every week or?154301:40:42,149 --> 01:40:44,339Yeah, every show. Do we have amonth's worth yet?154401:40:45,420 --> 01:40:46,890Oh, that we do. Do?154501:40:47,040 --> 01:40:51,150Do we don't let me see. Thatwould be we have to finish up.154601:40:51,330 --> 01:40:54,030How does it work? You have tofinish out the month right. So154701:40:54,030 --> 01:41:00,750we may see favorite feeds orfavorite feeds? No agenda. Here154801:41:00,750 --> 01:41:09,630we go. Let me see. A month agowould be I think episode 1490.154901:41:09,630 --> 01:41:13,380That was on podcast index runnow. Now that we need it needs155001:41:13,380 --> 01:41:15,540to be 1491.155101:41:17,100 --> 01:41:23,070Yep. 1491 had op three in it.Yep. Okay, so 1490 had it in it.155201:41:24,420 --> 01:41:25,800And 1489.155301:41:25,949 --> 01:41:29,519Right, right. But we need tofinish out we need to finish out155401:41:29,519 --> 01:41:32,099the month. We'll just do it overthe date range. Not not the155501:41:32,099 --> 01:41:35,969episode, but I just want to knowhow many suppose it so called155601:41:35,969 --> 01:41:37,139downloads in a month.155701:41:37,800 --> 01:41:42,690So not September 25 was thefirst episode that had mp3 in155801:41:42,690 --> 01:41:45,360it. And so we're already pastthe month mark. We're on October155901:41:45,359 --> 01:41:48,32928. Okay. Oh, so we can pullthat we can pull that data?156001:41:48,779 --> 01:41:51,569Sure. Thanks. So we cancalculate how much we would make156101:41:51,569 --> 01:41:56,279with advertising. That's theonly reason I do it. Get a kick156201:41:56,279 --> 01:42:00,959out of it. But we look how richwe could be doing it right.156301:42:02,010 --> 01:42:05,820No, we don't have we don't havean exit. We'll just go down with156401:42:05,820 --> 01:42:06,270the ship.156501:42:07,319 --> 01:42:10,109Let me see. I don't think I hadanything else. That's all. I156601:42:10,109 --> 01:42:13,559mean, at least not not thataren't longer topics to dive156701:42:13,559 --> 01:42:14,039into.156801:42:15,090 --> 01:42:17,190Oh, let's get some stuff.156901:42:17,790 --> 01:42:22,020I'm just looking at our 14minutes we have left for our157001:42:22,020 --> 01:42:26,370hurricane. Okay, I'm justsaying. Like, nevermind, we got157101:42:26,370 --> 01:42:29,340142 on the clock, buddy. I thinkwe're good. We've done it. Once157201:42:29,340 --> 01:42:31,350again. We've gotten through awhole board meeting without157301:42:31,350 --> 01:42:31,890fighting.157401:42:33,600 --> 01:42:34,830Which we do so much.157501:42:36,689 --> 01:42:38,939Thank you everybody in the chatroom. Thank you everybody who's157601:42:38,939 --> 01:42:42,899listening live. You can do thaton curio cast or you can do it157701:42:42,899 --> 01:42:46,859on pod verse. But of course, allof the podcasting 2.0 apps add157801:42:46,859 --> 01:42:51,119new podcast apps.com Nudepodcast apps.com And if you want157901:42:51,119 --> 01:42:54,449to join in, go to podcast indexdot social and request an invite158001:42:54,449 --> 01:42:57,539and we'll hook you up. Thankyou, brother. Another great week158101:42:57,539 --> 01:43:02,369Dave? Nothing but the future'sso bright. You gotta wear158201:43:02,369 --> 01:43:06,059shades. We will be back nextweek with another episode or158301:43:06,089 --> 01:43:09,269should I just say another boardmeeting of podcasting? 2.0 Take158401:43:09,269 --> 01:43:10,049care everybody. See158501:43:10,050 --> 01:43:30,660you then. Bye bye. You have beenlistening to podcasting 2.0158601:43:30,810 --> 01:43:34,440Visit podcast index.org For moreinformation