Episode 105: Bombshell!

100:00:03,689 --> 00:00:12,089worried that? Podcasting 2.0 forOctober 7 2022 Episode 105 We200:00:12,089 --> 00:00:17,849got a bombshell. Hello,everybody. Welcome to podcasting300:00:17,849 --> 00:00:23,0392.0 The weekly board meeting ofexactly that namesake? What is400:00:23,039 --> 00:00:26,459happening? How do we do it? Whatis this value for value thing?500:00:26,489 --> 00:00:28,979Do you finally think you couldgive us an update about the600:00:28,979 --> 00:00:32,399namespace? Or, hey, why don't weall just go look at podcast700:00:32,399 --> 00:00:35,399index.org and see we can do thisbetter. This is all that we800:00:35,399 --> 00:00:39,269discuss here in the boardmeeting. Podcasting 2.0 I'm Adam900:00:39,269 --> 00:00:41,849curry in the heart of the TexasHill Country and an Alabama the1000:00:41,849 --> 00:00:44,819man who feeds sheep with Bitcoinsay hello to my friend on the1100:00:44,819 --> 00:00:47,729other end, ladies and gentlemen,Mr. Dave Jones1200:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,740at the International namespaceday.1300:00:54,780 --> 00:00:57,510Alright, let's mark that downOctober 7, International1400:00:57,510 --> 00:00:58,620namespace day.1500:00:59,010 --> 00:01:02,670I mean, everybody, everybody,just evidently there's this, the1600:01:02,670 --> 00:01:04,530wild west out there, you canjust make anything1700:01:04,530 --> 00:01:08,670International, whatever you wantto date. Mark it down October 7.1800:01:08,700 --> 00:01:11,880I know I'm always surprised thisinternational podcast day and1900:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,330then it's podcast birthday. Andthen and then I realized, you2000:01:15,330 --> 00:01:18,870know, I'm, it's funny, you bringthat up, cuz I was gonna, I was2100:01:18,870 --> 00:01:22,410gonna talk about thiseventually. Like, I hear so many2200:01:22,410 --> 00:01:25,710people in the industry, thepodcast industrial complex,2300:01:26,460 --> 00:01:28,590talking about you know, howyoung the industry is, we're2400:01:28,590 --> 00:01:32,580just getting started. I'm like,wait a minute. It's almost been2500:01:32,580 --> 00:01:37,14020 years and we still haven'tfigured out how to really2600:01:37,170 --> 00:01:41,130measure downloads. You know,we're still having these2700:01:41,130 --> 00:01:47,010discussions and arguments andnow and, and it's a young2800:01:47,010 --> 00:01:51,780knowable and young industry butyou know, 1010 Spotify shows go2900:01:51,780 --> 00:01:54,420away and maybe a smallpercentage of their overall but3000:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,380you know that what is that maybea million dollars worth?3100:01:58,410 --> 00:02:00,510Because, you know, they justpouring money in everywhere.3200:02:00,510 --> 00:02:04,710It's not coming back. marketingmarketing budgets are being3300:02:04,710 --> 00:02:09,120slashed everywhere. And I justI'd want to be a little3400:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,700realistic with people is like, Idon't see it. I don't see it.3500:02:16,110 --> 00:02:22,680The Yeah, The bleeding hasstarted in earnest. I mean, not3600:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,930just not just in podcasting, butacross the border.3700:02:25,020 --> 00:02:27,600Everything. Yes, everythingYeah, but even out now you're3800:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,150gonna see the cracks arestarting to appear.3900:02:31,139 --> 00:02:33,809Oh, God, we we got to make aprofit. Oh my god, what are we4000:02:33,809 --> 00:02:35,189gonna do? I mean, well,4100:02:35,190 --> 00:02:38,040that's exactly the problem. Itwasn't it was not a problem4200:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,220until we had to show profit. Iwas just listening in the in the4300:02:41,220 --> 00:02:50,700car. Lift. Lift is like theythey spend 125%. So, so they'll4400:02:50,700 --> 00:02:53,010never be profitable. Andeveryone here the analysts are4500:02:53,010 --> 00:02:55,890saying, well, you know, we justdon't see much upside because it4600:02:55,890 --> 00:02:59,910doesn't look like they can evermake money. Yeah, and that's4700:02:59,910 --> 00:03:03,450because, you know, the capitalmarkets were there and freely4800:03:03,450 --> 00:03:05,910available for very, for verylittle, you know, we're gonna4900:03:05,910 --> 00:03:09,000see another rate hike,obviously, that's, it's, it's5000:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,940out of control. Nobody knowswhat to do. But what everyone's5100:03:11,940 --> 00:03:15,540trying to do is sit that's whatBitcoin, like Bitcoin goes down,5200:03:15,540 --> 00:03:19,080because the dollar is the mostdesired thing right now in the5300:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,450world, because everyone knowsthe interest rates are gonna go5400:03:21,450 --> 00:03:25,110up, and they have loans indollars, they have to pay off.5500:03:25,110 --> 00:03:27,660So it's, you know, the, thebetter, the better get those5600:03:27,660 --> 00:03:28,530dollars now.5700:03:29,970 --> 00:03:39,180So, landing is the name of acompany that was there's a local5800:03:39,180 --> 00:03:43,050guy, I think his name is BillSmith, very, very generic name,5900:03:43,050 --> 00:03:47,610but he's kind of a big deallocally in Birmingham. So Bill6000:03:47,610 --> 00:03:51,720Smith, created this companycalled shipped Shi pt.6100:03:52,500 --> 00:03:54,870And yeah, I've heard of this.Yeah,6200:03:54,870 --> 00:03:59,070they're, I mean, this is thestandard grocery delivery type6300:03:59,070 --> 00:04:01,800deal, you know, but they startedlocal and they had to deal with6400:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,280Publix grocery stores. That wastheir first big partnership. And6500:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280so they were like exclusive withPublix. And you will target came6600:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,490in and bought them. I think fiveyears ago, maybe four years ago.6700:04:12,090 --> 00:04:18,150That target bought them for like$550 million. The so then he6800:04:18,150 --> 00:04:23,940left? Chips, you know, he gothis exit after he tested or6900:04:23,940 --> 00:04:27,090whatever. Yeah, he got out. Andthen he goes and he starts this7000:04:27,090 --> 00:04:30,270thing called landing. Andlanding is this company that is7100:04:30,270 --> 00:04:36,630like a national network ofapartments or temporary7200:04:36,630 --> 00:04:41,190residencies for people who arebouncing back and forth between7300:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,950between residences and like, sothen they, as they started this7400:04:46,950 --> 00:04:50,220thing, well, they just announcedtoday. They started it, I think7500:04:50,220 --> 00:04:52,620two years ago. It washeadquartered in San Francisco.7600:04:52,620 --> 00:04:54,960Then it moved the headquartersto Birmingham. Long story short,7700:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,090they're laying off 110 Peopletoday because I mean, the You7800:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,140know, everybody's got to showprofit. Now. This is not, this7900:05:04,140 --> 00:05:07,290is not how the exits work.You're not supposed to have to8000:05:07,290 --> 00:05:11,100show a profit. You're supposedto get out early. And it just is8100:05:11,100 --> 00:05:13,830like things finally caught upand it's like, oh crap, we8200:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,620profits not in our none in ourbusiness plan.8300:05:16,650 --> 00:05:19,890Yeah. And I think I warned forthis very scenario. I said that8400:05:19,890 --> 00:05:23,250this was coming. Yeah. Becausepeople forget I'm from the8500:05:23,250 --> 00:05:29,970future. How many times do I haveto remind you? Well, so so back8600:05:29,970 --> 00:05:31,740to podcasting. I've beenlistening to different8700:05:31,740 --> 00:05:33,870interviews and you know, justyou know, I listened to the8800:05:33,870 --> 00:05:37,350regular stuff, but it's, it'sreally been a lot of interesting8900:05:37,350 --> 00:05:40,770things to take in. And itfinally, it kind of hit me I9000:05:40,770 --> 00:05:43,800understand now what the industryis the podcast industrial9100:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,090complex, and why there's a callfor equity and all of this9200:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,990because if you look at thisHollywood, Hollywood Reporter9300:05:52,020 --> 00:05:56,610most influential list andpodcasting limits it's where9400:05:56,610 --> 00:05:59,580it's you know, it's where allthe money is it's literally9500:05:59,580 --> 00:06:02,790where all the money is centered.And the weirdest one in there as9600:06:02,790 --> 00:06:05,400Joe Rogan he's also not veryhigh on the list that put him in9700:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,570the middle somewhere. But youknow, it's and it's all you9800:06:09,570 --> 00:06:12,180know, people especially on theindustry side, coming from9900:06:12,180 --> 00:06:15,480Amazon coming from NPR and youknow, it's, it's like and they10000:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,310kind of brought in their theirHollywood newness and their and10100:06:20,310 --> 00:06:23,070I'm sure money as well came withthem people following this10200:06:23,070 --> 00:06:26,880talent, but I don't thinkthey're really seeing the ROI10300:06:26,910 --> 00:06:31,200just feels like that to me. Soit remains very, very small and10400:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,200if you look at the if you lookat that's where the money is,10500:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,660that's where this billiondollars is that I keep hearing10600:06:36,660 --> 00:06:40,740about. And it's you know, it'snot you can't just start your10700:06:40,740 --> 00:06:44,160podcast grow your audience andthen the dynamically inserted10800:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,120ads pay your rent is just notlike that. And that's admit but10900:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,870that's admitted, you know, it'sadmitted and tada Todd Rundgren,11000:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,810Todd Cochran would be would hebe the first to admit that you11100:06:57,810 --> 00:07:00,060know, and he's no he actuallythinks that's very important11200:07:00,060 --> 00:07:05,100that people have realizedrealistic expectations but you11300:07:05,100 --> 00:07:08,700know, in that group Yeah, that'sa very close click and they're11400:07:08,700 --> 00:07:12,570calling that the podcastindustry and outside of that is11500:07:12,570 --> 00:07:15,420where it really all the all thebeauty is where all the11600:07:15,420 --> 00:07:19,080beautiful things live where allthe fun is and sometimes the11700:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,830danger and you know it's it'sit's outside that portal where11800:07:22,830 --> 00:07:24,390it gets really interesting11900:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,240look looking at this list we'llsee the first is will our net12000:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,900Jason bay that means a veryvery, very funny12100:07:33,900 --> 00:07:36,510podcast by the way and we havelistened to it once or twice12200:07:36,510 --> 00:07:40,650very funny I get the jokes notreally from me. But you know12300:07:41,100 --> 00:07:45,420money Oh, yeah, they got bigcontract to do that. Sure. And12400:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,980you have you know, Team Cocobought for 150 million Yeah, so12500:07:49,980 --> 00:07:52,350there's a lot of you know, thisis why you get some some of12600:07:52,350 --> 00:07:56,730those players on the inside youknow, buying now admitted pretty12700:07:56,730 --> 00:08:01,170much scam listens inside gameapps which are intended for the12800:08:01,170 --> 00:08:05,220purpose, you know, to keep thisfacade going and you know, the12900:08:05,220 --> 00:08:07,800advertisers are kind of beingsuckered along for the ride.13000:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,400They maybe make goods and someof these radio dual plays. But13100:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,200it's, it's kind of pathetic. Andit's really not at all what I13200:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,460feel. I mean, even when we firststarted off and NPR and13300:08:20,460 --> 00:08:24,810everyone's kind of on the samelevel, and you know, in trying13400:08:24,810 --> 00:08:28,440to pull it towards their ownplatforms, it's just become13500:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,200incestuous. But I think they'regonna discover it too. You see13600:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,170that with Spotify is like, Oh,crap. We can't pull this shit13700:08:34,170 --> 00:08:36,480off. Anyway, these were gimletshows and he's not supposed to13800:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,860be the creme de la creme13900:08:39,299 --> 00:08:44,219like, well, gimlet, are they sodid gimlet. Are they part of the14000:08:44,219 --> 00:08:49,859whole? The Union thing? Did theyunionize? I think so they were14100:08:49,859 --> 00:08:52,739right. Because that thinksthat's going to destroy those14200:08:52,739 --> 00:08:55,259companies. All those companiesthat unionized are going to I14300:08:55,259 --> 00:08:58,439mean, they're gonna collapse. Atsome point. I mean,14400:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,149well, well, thank you. You makea good point. The best podcasts14500:09:03,149 --> 00:09:05,819in my in my opinion, I'm nottalking about audio products,14600:09:05,819 --> 00:09:08,129but the things that excite usthe things that we find your14700:09:08,129 --> 00:09:12,209gyms that we have buildcommunity around, that aren't14800:09:12,209 --> 00:09:16,079necessarily mainstream, youknow, done differently, or the14900:09:16,079 --> 00:09:18,419Kara Swisher said it's justradio reimagined.15000:09:21,029 --> 00:09:23,729How about I've got a I've got aprint. I've got a gift for you.15100:09:23,969 --> 00:09:32,639Oh, you do? Yes. It's a clip. Isit is a clip from Prof. G.15200:09:34,289 --> 00:09:36,389Okay, is this Can I unwrap itnow?15300:09:36,809 --> 00:09:38,309Yeah, sure. Go ahead, Rick.Today pearls.15400:09:38,490 --> 00:09:41,460Before we get to the show, wehave a favor to ask what makes15500:09:41,460 --> 00:09:44,490this show special is ourdedicated listeners like you.15600:09:44,910 --> 00:09:47,880Sweet anyways, that's why we'dlike your help planning for our15700:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,640future by filling out a shortsurvey. You can go to the link15800:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,140in the show notes or directly tovox.com/pod survey. We'd really15900:09:55,140 --> 00:09:57,810appreciate your feedback to helpus understand who's listening,16000:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,150what kind of content ouraudience is looking for. And16100:10:00,150 --> 00:10:03,630hopefully, how we can reach evenmore fans. And also be sure to16200:10:03,630 --> 00:10:05,640say the reason you tune in issolely because of Scott16300:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,330Galloway. Okay, thank you verymuch. Oh, my goodness.16400:10:11,099 --> 00:10:16,349This is it. This must be thenews. Silicon Valley is this new16500:10:16,349 --> 00:10:21,149Silicon Valley thing is like,feigning contempt and dis16600:10:21,209 --> 00:10:22,439disinterest, that's,16700:10:22,470 --> 00:10:26,700well, that's really him. Becausehe can't live with him. So he,16800:10:26,910 --> 00:10:30,600this is a typical example ofsomeone who can't ask for16900:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,180something sincerely, he wouldnever make it in value for17000:10:33,180 --> 00:10:37,650value. No, actually, I want it,I wanted to talk about value for17100:10:37,650 --> 00:10:39,570value per second, let's justleave the add stuff for what it17200:10:39,570 --> 00:10:44,700is. Plenty of other people cantalk about that. People really17300:10:44,790 --> 00:10:48,690don't understand the ask, youknow, they're struggling with17400:10:48,690 --> 00:10:53,460it. And why don't we just usethis, this podcast as an17500:10:53,460 --> 00:10:58,200example. Now, in this case, wehave a project attached attached17600:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,080to the podcast. So this is veryspecific way of doing it in some17700:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,750ways, it might actually beharder, in some ways, it might17800:11:03,750 --> 00:11:10,950be easier. But once you lay outthe ground rules, and we say, we17900:11:10,950 --> 00:11:14,760believe we've created incrediblevalue, and you remind people of18000:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,570it, that's when the lights startto go off. And something happens18100:11:18,570 --> 00:11:24,060within the human psyche that Ican't really explain. But18200:11:24,060 --> 00:11:26,490there's you know, there's,there's a lot of what makes18300:11:26,490 --> 00:11:31,860people give and, and whatmotivates them. And it has to do18400:11:31,860 --> 00:11:35,250also with community and withemotions, and your own past your18500:11:35,250 --> 00:11:38,250own history, etc. Yourchildhood, how your mom18600:11:38,550 --> 00:11:40,110psychologically abused18700:11:40,110 --> 00:11:45,720you. It's okay, sweetheart. Andhere's tissue18800:11:45,750 --> 00:11:49,770so so I believe that peoplesupport this show what you and I18900:11:49,770 --> 00:11:53,430are doing and this project,because of the value we've19000:11:53,430 --> 00:11:57,300created, not because we're funnyenough, it helps not because19100:11:57,330 --> 00:12:01,740we're good looking, obviously,that helps. A lot. But for the19200:12:01,740 --> 00:12:05,310value we've created, let me justgive you just in what is it now19300:12:05,340 --> 00:12:07,020two and a half years? And wehave we hit two and a half19400:12:07,020 --> 00:12:11,100years, we hit two years? To overtwo. Yeah, wherever to you look19500:12:11,100 --> 00:12:15,330at some of the value of createdthis podcast index.org itself,19600:12:15,900 --> 00:12:21,720we kind of just talk about likethe index. But you have created19700:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,430this, this incredible. I mean,it's a hybrid type beast like a19800:12:26,430 --> 00:12:30,420chimera, because it livespublicly and replicates itself.19900:12:31,290 --> 00:12:35,550You know, and it's fused away,but you can tap into it and suck20000:12:35,550 --> 00:12:37,860off of it all day. I mean,20100:12:38,940 --> 00:12:40,770well, that's explicit to you.20200:12:42,630 --> 00:12:45,090But I'm envisioning like amonster, you know, but it's not20300:12:45,090 --> 00:12:48,060really it's a friendly monster.And it's this oozing ball of20400:12:48,060 --> 00:12:51,780stuff and, and plop, a blob goesoff once a week, and people can20500:12:51,780 --> 00:12:54,930use that and create their ownmonster at home.20600:12:55,529 --> 00:12:59,099Biochemistry speaking, itreplicates by budding. There you20700:12:59,100 --> 00:13:05,280go, there you go. So we'vespawned out of this. Besides the20800:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,030obvious fun and creativity, wehave people who have built20900:13:09,510 --> 00:13:13,740services and apps have added totheir I mean, hosting companies21000:13:13,740 --> 00:13:18,060have have an add new competitiveedge. There are investors and21100:13:18,060 --> 00:13:24,120advisors, and new customers andnew audiences. All these things21200:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,870came out of the value that westarted to put together and then21300:13:27,930 --> 00:13:33,030people who receive that value.And that can also be people who21400:13:33,030 --> 00:13:37,890use podcasts, people who podcastit's, it's the entire universe.21500:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,780There's something inside thatgoes, Oh, yeah, that's valuable.21600:13:43,020 --> 00:13:46,620And I like that to continue. AndI know that, you know, this, I21700:13:46,620 --> 00:13:50,550do this and whatever that is,for you is exactly what it is21800:13:50,550 --> 00:13:55,440exactly. Right. And somehow is,you know, no one can explain it21900:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,870to me. I can't explain iteither. But for some reason it22000:13:57,870 --> 00:14:00,450works. And I could we couldprobably make a biblical22100:14:00,450 --> 00:14:03,750argument. I can make it like auniversal life force argument.22200:14:05,130 --> 00:14:08,520Give us the give us theScripture, Dave. description22300:14:09,270 --> 00:14:10,320that explains this.22400:14:10,799 --> 00:14:14,189Yes. Second Jesus, verse three.22500:14:15,269 --> 00:14:17,219Wouldn't that be cool if youwent oh, well, Adam22600:14:19,050 --> 00:14:25,200is right here right here. Imean, so Twitter on Twitter,22700:14:25,410 --> 00:14:28,140there was some conversation likewhat? Okay, the different tweak22800:14:28,140 --> 00:14:35,580tips in value for value. And youknow, I gave it a shot and then22900:14:35,580 --> 00:14:41,400you came in and said, we'll dothe same thing you just be your23000:14:41,430 --> 00:14:43,320wealth. What did you sayexactly? What was your exact23100:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,210wording? I don't have Twitter infront of me. Oh,23200:14:45,990 --> 00:14:49,290it's the exact same thing itasked for tips, you get tips ask23300:14:49,290 --> 00:14:53,010for value. And all of a suddenthe magic happens.23400:14:53,580 --> 00:14:57,960Right? So the in the value thething that we you know, we23500:14:57,990 --> 00:15:00,150there's the technical side ofthis podcast and then there As23600:15:00,150 --> 00:15:03,960the value for this podcast is anongoing ever arching you know23700:15:03,960 --> 00:15:10,080ever never ending try attempt toexplain the value for value23800:15:10,080 --> 00:15:10,770concept.23900:15:10,860 --> 00:15:14,550It's also a it's also the onlymeeting we ever have. It is24000:15:14,580 --> 00:15:17,970everything else is just hey, howyou doing? Here's a link yeah,24100:15:17,970 --> 00:15:20,010great love you Love you too havea nice day24200:15:20,010 --> 00:15:24,360at work. It is. It's like, Hey,did you see Allah sent me this24300:15:24,360 --> 00:15:32,190thing about sheep eaten Bitcoinfeed? Pretty much. Which, which,24400:15:32,190 --> 00:15:34,680by the way was awesome. Can Iplease build that I really want24500:15:34,680 --> 00:15:34,950to build24600:15:35,130 --> 00:15:37,680it was kind of weird because sowhat we're talking about is24700:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,100this, I guess it's lightningenabled. And there's a camera24800:15:41,100 --> 00:15:44,430and there's a sheep and thenwhen someone pays for the24900:15:44,430 --> 00:15:48,210invoice or you know, sends itSatoshis then some some feed25000:15:48,210 --> 00:15:51,120drops out of this little pipeout of the wall. But the thing25100:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,260is, the sheep knows now he justhas his mouth around the pipe it25200:15:55,260 --> 00:15:58,680was highly disturbing to watch.And then you hear the you see25300:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,390little Bitcoin logo, ching chingching. And it's wrong. It's25400:16:03,390 --> 00:16:04,890wrong in so many ways.25500:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,410This is hilarious. And I want todo this animal cruelty is what25600:16:10,410 --> 00:16:13,440it is. No, it's not they loveit. They love Bitcoin, their25700:16:13,440 --> 00:16:23,700Max. Max. Max is the in so youfeed the you scan the little QR25800:16:23,700 --> 00:16:26,370code and and and Alex sent it tome. And I was like, Are you25900:16:26,370 --> 00:16:29,850kidding me what the eff is. Sothen I come back. And I'm26000:16:29,850 --> 00:16:32,340sitting there staring at thisand there's no way this works.26100:16:33,090 --> 00:16:37,140And I scan the QR code and it'slike it just spit out some feed.26200:16:37,140 --> 00:16:41,760I was like, Are you kidding me?So then I'm like, I respond to26300:16:44,490 --> 00:16:47,940respond to Alex. I'm like, Man,I can't help it. I did it. I had26400:16:47,940 --> 00:16:50,700to do it add in an Alicereplied. And he's like, he's26500:16:50,700 --> 00:17:00,480like, Man, I did it like thissheep, the sheep are in a grand26600:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,210experiment that they never saythey will never understand.26700:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,600It's like, you know what itreminds me of the early days of26800:17:06,600 --> 00:17:12,060the internet. And we had webcamsI had the Empire camera in my26900:17:12,060 --> 00:17:17,490office in like, yeah, it was the1990s. And, you know, so I had27000:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,600like a Logitech one of thoseball cams. Yeah, took a shot27100:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,580every, you know, every minute orwhatever. And then you just27200:17:26,580 --> 00:17:29,490posted that with a timestamp.And you had all these different27300:17:29,490 --> 00:17:33,090cams all around the world. It'skind of that that early vibe of27400:17:33,090 --> 00:17:35,700what kind of you know, ofcourse, even before that, you27500:17:35,700 --> 00:17:39,720had the internet coffee machine,which was hooked up. University27600:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,280was hooked up at and you couldsee the status of the coffee. If27700:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,330it had to be made or not.27800:17:45,930 --> 00:17:49,110I'm thinking we need to do this.I mean, like there has to be27900:17:49,290 --> 00:17:51,750this has opened up so muchcreative juice. I mean, like you28000:17:51,750 --> 00:17:57,780could scan you know pay to haveI got it. I got it. Okay,28100:17:58,020 --> 00:18:02,610there's it's the jukebox, theinternet jukebox. So you can28200:18:02,610 --> 00:18:06,030have the weed at the podcast youbox. Somebody needs to build28300:18:06,030 --> 00:18:09,630this for the hackathon, thepodcast, you box, you scan a QR28400:18:09,630 --> 00:18:13,320code and that gets in then youhave a suggestion that you want28500:18:13,320 --> 00:18:19,080to queue into the jukebox likeGraham, Graham, boost the28600:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,260podcast index ID of the one youwant to queue up another28700:18:22,260 --> 00:18:24,480episode, you want to queue upnext. I mean, there's like a28800:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,960million this programmable moneymakes things just28900:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,650and I'll say that not everyoneagrees with with exactly what29000:18:34,650 --> 00:18:37,470they're doing. But I thinkfountain is Oscar and those guys29100:18:37,470 --> 00:18:40,140are having a good time with withlightning. I think they're doing29200:18:40,140 --> 00:18:43,140really in. I'm not an advisor. Ithink they're doing really29300:18:43,140 --> 00:18:55,830interesting. I'm not an advisor.I want to disclose that. But you29400:18:55,830 --> 00:18:58,620know what I mean? It's like,there's lots of great. That's29500:18:58,620 --> 00:19:02,100another thing I want to say. Sothe most enjoyable for me has29600:19:02,100 --> 00:19:05,070been a lot of things have beenenjoyable. I really love all the29700:19:05,070 --> 00:19:10,830developers, developers,developers, throwback to Steve29800:19:10,830 --> 00:19:12,660Ballmer. Anybody know? Yeah,29900:19:12,750 --> 00:19:13,380Ballmer30000:19:16,290 --> 00:19:21,480is the developers of sointeresting. And I love how they30100:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,880think I love how theycommunicate. I love what they30200:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,700build. It's like I feel veryprivileged to be in the middle30300:19:26,700 --> 00:19:32,790of artists. And I think part ofthe value of what we've created30400:19:32,790 --> 00:19:37,860with basically an API that costsnothing. You please come ahead30500:19:37,860 --> 00:19:46,290and use it. Is it for podcastdevelopers, then? You know, you30600:19:46,290 --> 00:19:49,470were using the Apple API. You Iknow in the back of your mind,30700:19:49,470 --> 00:19:52,230you felt kind of like snooping.You know, it felt like kind of30800:19:52,230 --> 00:19:56,550weird. I'm sure it did. And nowit's just like, hey, you know,30900:19:56,550 --> 00:19:58,860it's like, you know, you're notgoing to kicked off and you31000:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,310know, we're all Playing in thesame sandbox here where31100:20:02,340 --> 00:20:05,100everyone's keeping it fair. Ithink, you know, we have API31200:20:05,100 --> 00:20:07,920abuse. But that's really frombots and other crap. I'm sure31300:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,730it's scammers and spammers, butyou know, and people are really31400:20:11,730 --> 00:20:14,820respectful. And it's such abeautiful way of working31500:20:14,820 --> 00:20:18,120together. It is, again, one ofthe most rewarding things for me31600:20:18,120 --> 00:20:21,180personally. So I know the valueI'm getting out of it. But I31700:20:21,180 --> 00:20:25,320think that, you know, on mass,that's why people continue to31800:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,900support it and continue to moveeverything forward.31900:20:28,349 --> 00:20:32,429That's an interesting way todescribe it, that you feel like32000:20:32,429 --> 00:20:36,959with Apple's API, because itgrew up out of this sort of32100:20:36,959 --> 00:20:41,669weird nobody ever said you coulduse it, but you use it thing.32200:20:42,089 --> 00:20:46,439It's like, when you go and jumpover somebody's fence in the32300:20:46,439 --> 00:20:48,659neighborhood and swim in theirpool at night, when they when32400:20:48,659 --> 00:20:53,099there's when that venue and youjust hope they don't wake up and32500:20:53,099 --> 00:20:57,359find all right. Yeah. Yeah. Likethis is like, no, no, everybody32600:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,969come in, get a drink and get apineapple drink with an32700:20:59,969 --> 00:21:00,509umbrella.32800:21:01,380 --> 00:21:02,160Grab a towel.32900:21:04,230 --> 00:21:07,680Grab a towel, do the big beachbeach ones getting in just have33000:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,190fun. Yes,33100:21:08,190 --> 00:21:11,670cannonballs, belly flops areencouraged. Yes,33200:21:11,730 --> 00:21:13,740you have always loveddevelopers, there's something33300:21:13,740 --> 00:21:18,750about you, you've always lovedworking with coders,33400:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,660because I know how hard it is tobreak through to where you're33500:21:24,660 --> 00:21:27,870actually a developer, I've neverachieved it. And I can see the33600:21:27,870 --> 00:21:32,160ceiling and I just recognizewhere my limits on what I can33700:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,660do. And I've always felt likeI'm, I'm probably best suited,33800:21:37,140 --> 00:21:42,480translating between differentworlds. No, I think that's what33900:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,530daily source code, I was kind oftelling the world what we were34000:21:46,530 --> 00:21:51,120doing. At the same time talkingabout what to develop without34100:21:51,120 --> 00:21:55,200really being a coder or anythingor a software engineer. I34200:21:55,230 --> 00:21:57,750understand the concepts, youknow, you can walk me through34300:21:57,750 --> 00:22:02,820something, I'll get it.Something was gonna say about34400:22:02,820 --> 00:22:03,270that?34500:22:04,020 --> 00:22:07,050Yeah, well, me You've alwaysyou've always been able to, you34600:22:07,050 --> 00:22:09,420may not, you may not read thecode, but you understand what's34700:22:09,420 --> 00:22:12,780trying to be done. And thatmakes it that makes it easy the34800:22:12,780 --> 00:22:15,960translation layer, like that'swhat makes people if you're34900:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,560talking about value. I mean, Idon't know about, you know,35000:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,110necessarily off the cuff, how totranslate that into what we're35100:22:22,110 --> 00:22:26,520doing. But from, at least in thebusiness world, and I think this35200:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,070applies to many other worlds aswell. The having somebody who's35300:22:32,070 --> 00:22:36,660able to do the translation isthat is alone is very valuable,35400:22:36,660 --> 00:22:41,490because you need, like you seethe people within it, or within35500:22:41,610 --> 00:22:46,260the just the world of technologyin general, who in the business35600:22:46,260 --> 00:22:51,000world who are able to interfacebetween management, and writers35700:22:51,030 --> 00:22:54,540or management and developers,because there really is it's35800:22:54,540 --> 00:22:57,360like two different worlds, youneed a liaison or somebody to35900:22:57,360 --> 00:23:02,430help plug those two things in.And it's not easy. So like, I've36000:23:02,430 --> 00:23:04,500really realized that this is aninteresting discussion, because36100:23:04,500 --> 00:23:09,330I realized the other day, thatthose are the podcasts and the36200:23:09,330 --> 00:23:14,610things that I enjoy the most, orthe or the podcasts that I feel36300:23:14,610 --> 00:23:18,780like are the most valuable, orwhen I'm being explained things36400:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,320when I'm listening to somebodywho has that interface property36500:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,730about them. Yeah, now that Imean, like, I'm so apt to give36600:23:26,730 --> 00:23:30,600money to give money and tosupport those docile types of36700:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,530people because they're rare.36800:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,450So I remembered what I was goingto say that with my infinite36900:23:36,540 --> 00:23:41,010translation skills, I reallymessed one up good. And it's37000:23:41,010 --> 00:23:44,940really only become apparent tome now. Maybe because I'm37100:23:44,940 --> 00:23:49,800involved with so many other appsindividually. Now, it just does37200:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,830so many apps. You know, I'musing almost every single app37300:23:52,830 --> 00:23:55,680and I tried to keep tabs on whateverybody's doing and their37400:23:55,680 --> 00:24:02,850stuff is escaping me just goingquite fast. But the middle when37500:24:03,240 --> 00:24:11,550I recently had a cock up with anupload I might as well take37600:24:11,820 --> 00:24:13,110a minute thing that Yeah.37700:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,740Yeah, it's so painful.37800:24:17,700 --> 00:24:20,400What? What happened? Tell meabout this eight minute thing.37900:24:20,400 --> 00:24:20,730Okay.38000:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,120And the remind me to come backto why I was telling this story.38100:24:24,660 --> 00:24:26,940Oh, no, no, no, I don't want tobreak your flow. Go. No, no, no,38200:24:26,940 --> 00:24:27,330no, I'm38300:24:27,329 --> 00:24:30,539gonna do it. Alright, it's worthit because people don't people.38400:24:31,499 --> 00:24:35,279People don't understand how thisworks. So actually, I can tell38500:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,589the story after I tell you theproblem. So here's where I38600:24:37,589 --> 00:24:44,669messed up. The majority ofpodcast users who listen to38700:24:44,669 --> 00:24:49,559podcast in their mind and theirmental map their mental image of38800:24:49,559 --> 00:24:54,359how this works. After I'm donewith the show, I upload it to38900:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,409Apple. I upload it to Spotify. Iupload it to Google, I upload it39000:24:58,409 --> 00:25:02,369to Amazon, I upload it to JulioCastro, I upload it to overcast,39100:25:02,519 --> 00:25:04,739I upload it to all thesedifferent what they call39200:25:04,739 --> 00:25:13,139platforms. And and so they willI mean, the language is all over39300:25:13,139 --> 00:25:16,559my Twitter feed is all over myemail. Hey man, did you forget39400:25:16,559 --> 00:25:20,399to upload the overcast or Ican't believe the upload worked39500:25:20,399 --> 00:25:24,479on Apple, but it just fill inthe blank. Really interesting.39600:25:24,839 --> 00:25:28,169So here's what I did wrong justto give you because people,39700:25:29,069 --> 00:25:32,399people don't understand themechanism, they really don't I39800:25:32,399 --> 00:25:34,349don't know if we have to explainit to them. But here's the39900:25:34,349 --> 00:25:38,519problem that I had. And a lot ofthis has to do with the caching40000:25:38,549 --> 00:25:44,069on our server. So for somereason, my upload of the mp340100:25:44,069 --> 00:25:47,399file of no agenda broke, and Ididn't realize it, and I thought40200:25:47,399 --> 00:25:56,429I had just completed. So I spinup sovereign feeds, I do a Save40300:25:56,429 --> 00:26:03,689and then export file a publicshow. And then I upload that to40400:26:03,689 --> 00:26:11,849the server. And then I, I catchmy my error. Before I've you40500:26:11,849 --> 00:26:14,609know, quote, unquote, pingedanything but you know, now we40600:26:14,609 --> 00:26:19,949know how this goes with caching,like, Oh, crap. So I, I removed40700:26:19,949 --> 00:26:26,009the RSS file, and then I, andthen I re uploaded the mp3 file.40800:26:26,009 --> 00:26:31,079Got that. All right, andrepublish the RSS, but for some40900:26:31,079 --> 00:26:35,339reason, it had cached that theshow was only eight minutes long41000:26:35,369 --> 00:26:38,639in the in his head, you know,like the length of the file41100:26:38,639 --> 00:26:42,239length. Yeah, yeah. So eventhough during the duration41200:26:42,239 --> 00:26:45,419duration, right, and so and Ilater corrected that, but by41300:26:45,419 --> 00:26:49,169that time, you know, the amountof caching going on an apps and41400:26:49,169 --> 00:26:53,639you know, being able to time,the cache Buster on on my on our41500:26:53,639 --> 00:26:58,589CDN, to, to a pod ping, it wasjust it was a clusterfuck it was41600:26:59,609 --> 00:27:02,879Phoebe. She doesn't like it whenI swear I'm sorry.41700:27:02,909 --> 00:27:05,579No, no, yeah. Put your money inthe swear jar. swear jar.41800:27:05,639 --> 00:27:14,159I'm here. Yep. So anyway, itjust I'm just saying that as a41900:27:14,159 --> 00:27:18,059point of reference that, that inthe communication of how42000:27:18,059 --> 00:27:21,419podcasting works. That'sgenerally how people feel about42100:27:21,419 --> 00:27:24,599it. And that's the mental imagethey have. And I'm not saying42200:27:24,599 --> 00:27:28,019that's bad. But it's somethingyou need to need to bear in42300:27:28,019 --> 00:27:30,269which is okay, yeah, she didn'tlike me swearing. No, she's42400:27:30,269 --> 00:27:30,689okay.42500:27:33,450 --> 00:27:34,830Yes, I'd love the swear jar.42600:27:36,900 --> 00:27:38,580Thank you. Thank you, darling.She's not42700:27:41,339 --> 00:27:42,809Oh, it's Phoebe being escortedout.42800:27:42,810 --> 00:27:46,860Yes. Yes. He removed Yeah, sheis. From the she just been led42900:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,330into which is interesting.43000:27:48,690 --> 00:27:51,870No, man, that's, that'sshameful. Just getting the walk43100:27:51,870 --> 00:27:58,320of shame. I mean, well, youknow, this is okay. Wait, wait.43200:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,810But um, before I change gearsthat you need to you gotta go43300:28:00,810 --> 00:28:02,130back to your other story right.43400:28:02,340 --> 00:28:05,850Now. That was the story aboutthe Okay, sorry about the43500:28:05,850 --> 00:28:06,360upload.43600:28:06,990 --> 00:28:12,090Okay. The, you know, I'velearned something as well. So we43700:28:12,090 --> 00:28:15,630need to talk about podcastnamespace stuff. That's, that's43800:28:15,630 --> 00:28:18,510important. We got to do get todo that. It's on my list as we43900:28:18,630 --> 00:28:21,780talk about faith, because yougot face to face six, but I want44000:28:21,780 --> 00:28:25,680to I want to do a precursorprecursory. Is that a word44100:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,460precursor? It44200:28:26,460 --> 00:28:27,930is now? Okay.44300:28:28,980 --> 00:28:33,180precursory. Man, I invented aword and rehearsal day on the44400:28:33,180 --> 00:28:33,870same day44500:28:34,589 --> 00:28:40,079precursor. You can have aprecursor. So I guess you can do44600:28:40,079 --> 00:28:41,309something. precursory.44700:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,990It's, this is precursor Oriole.Nice. I'm making it better. The44800:28:48,990 --> 00:28:54,060net. So this is about namingthings. So44900:28:55,050 --> 00:29:00,330I know you're long enough. Okay.Yeah, I'm ready for the floor is45000:29:00,330 --> 00:29:01,020yours, sir.45100:29:01,410 --> 00:29:08,010Okay. I learned something aboutthis. And it was not something I45200:29:08,010 --> 00:29:12,210was looking for. But it's one ofthose things that I was thankful45300:29:12,210 --> 00:29:17,280for. Oh, and you know, you know,well, my stance about the names45400:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,870of things. My standard answer isI don't care what we name it.45500:29:22,410 --> 00:29:25,710That's all that's always beenthe thing I've done. We45600:29:26,010 --> 00:29:28,410it's kind of like, I don't carewhat color it is. As long as45700:29:28,410 --> 00:29:29,190it's an m&m.45800:29:30,780 --> 00:29:34,470Yes, yes, exactly. As long asit's tasty and melts in your45900:29:34,470 --> 00:29:36,930mouth, not in your hand. I don'tcare what we call it. Good to46000:29:36,930 --> 00:29:42,810go. Good to go. So, I wastalking about this with Melissa.46100:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,250Because we had a new wind thatwe've been discussing this46200:29:47,250 --> 00:29:56,310proposal for the TX T tag, orthe text tag. And Daniel popped46300:29:56,310 --> 00:29:59,070into the thread and said, Idon't think we should name it46400:29:59,070 --> 00:30:01,950this I think we should name itsome The nails, which he is apt46500:30:01,950 --> 00:30:06,030to do is one it's one thing thathe does is he talks about the46600:30:06,030 --> 00:30:10,890names of things. And so we went,we went back and forth and back46700:30:10,890 --> 00:30:14,010and forth. And at one point Igot frustrated because you46800:30:14,010 --> 00:30:17,490buckled. No, I did not bow I didnot buckle. I did not but you46900:30:17,490 --> 00:30:22,470named it too meta. I'd well Idid name it to meta, and then,47000:30:22,950 --> 00:30:29,730okay, well, maybe I buckledokay, I named it the meta. And47100:30:29,730 --> 00:30:36,660then that was universally hated,it seems. And then, so I said,47200:30:36,660 --> 00:30:41,250You know what? Via you know,Ted, Ted Hoffman from Apple47300:30:41,250 --> 00:30:47,040brought this tag to the to theland of the living. He can name47400:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,840it. Because it's his baby. Hegets the name this thing. That47500:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,490was my solution to the namingissue is to divert it to is to47600:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,210make a direct eye. Yeah, no, itwas good. I followed this. He47700:31:00,210 --> 00:31:03,900had an argument which I foundcompelling. Can I introduce so47800:31:03,930 --> 00:31:07,770the argument that I saw was,well, this is a familiar field47900:31:07,770 --> 00:31:11,850for DNS records. And that's howit felt to me. I'm like, I've48000:31:11,850 --> 00:31:15,030done so many authenticationthings. I've done lots of DNS.48100:31:15,030 --> 00:31:16,590Oh, that makes sense to me.48200:31:18,390 --> 00:31:20,730That's it. Yeah, that yep,that's exactly right. And that's48300:31:20,730 --> 00:31:25,380so there's, I can give you thearguments for why the name of48400:31:25,380 --> 00:31:30,750anything doesn't matter. So thename of it, this goes back to,48500:31:30,780 --> 00:31:33,660you know, rules for standardmakers, the names don't matter.48600:31:34,020 --> 00:31:37,530Because we're developers, and wecan learn to use anything.48700:31:38,010 --> 00:31:42,390Developers, these tags willnever be seen by him by actual48800:31:42,390 --> 00:31:46,080human beings, they will only beseen by meat eating dungeon48900:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,800dwellers, who are creatingsoftware,49000:31:49,830 --> 00:31:52,200which is exactly what Applesaid, when they created the49100:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,460iTunes namespace.49200:31:54,450 --> 00:32:02,730Yes, the. So the perfect exampleof this is Apple's use of this49300:32:02,730 --> 00:32:07,860new property in their AV kitlibrary. It's called something49400:32:07,860 --> 00:32:14,850like a V URL HTTP asset useragent key. Okay, now, nobody, no49500:32:14,850 --> 00:32:17,940human being can actuallyremember the name of this thing.49600:32:18,660 --> 00:32:22,800But you don't have to. Becauseit autocompletes in your ID.49700:32:23,610 --> 00:32:27,030You can do Command F Ctrl. Yes.49800:32:27,180 --> 00:32:29,880And then you hover your mouseover the name of this thing, and49900:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,010it pops up documentation thatsays, here's what this thing50000:32:32,010 --> 00:32:36,060does. And by the time he in nohuman being will ever see this50100:32:36,060 --> 00:32:36,420thing.50200:32:36,510 --> 00:32:38,490Wait, what Id do you use?50300:32:39,660 --> 00:32:47,700I use PHP storm Docker. Thankyou. Yes. And so the, the idea50400:32:47,700 --> 00:32:51,300here is that no, but no, by thetime that humans aren't50500:32:51,300 --> 00:32:55,500interacting with the TX T tag,they're interacting with their50600:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,650hosting company, right. Andtheir hosting company is50700:32:58,650 --> 00:33:02,040translating the things that theysee on the screen into in the50800:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,900background, what becomes a TXTtag. So the names of these50900:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,120things don't matter. We couldliterally call it Ice Cream51000:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,780Sandwich. That can be the nameof the tag. And as long as we51100:33:12,780 --> 00:33:14,190all know what it does, and that51200:33:14,190 --> 00:33:16,530a version of Android Ice Cream.51300:33:17,670 --> 00:33:22,020We could call it Bitcoin goatfeed. And that would be that51400:33:22,020 --> 00:33:27,660would be absolutely fine. Okay,that's the that's the that's the51500:33:27,660 --> 00:33:31,830argument here. But here, here'swhat, but here's what I51600:33:31,830 --> 00:33:35,670discovered though. So I'mtelling my wife about this. And51700:33:35,670 --> 00:33:41,610I'm like, Okay. Was therethere's as I told him, like, you51800:33:41,610 --> 00:33:44,490know, all this bickering aboutnaming things. It's just, you51900:33:44,490 --> 00:33:48,180know, get on my nerves. It'sannoying. I'm, I'm distracted. I52000:33:48,180 --> 00:33:53,220hate I hate this. And she saidin her simple question to me52100:33:53,220 --> 00:33:56,850was, well, if you don't careabout what's nice about what the52200:33:56,850 --> 00:33:58,890name of it is, well, then why doyou care so much.52300:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,460harsh, harsh reality of aheritage woman?52400:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,990Is that look, I hear this tomatonow. It's52500:34:06,990 --> 00:34:10,200good now heritage woman. Youwant one of those? Okay. Oh,52600:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,870God. Well, I got one. Yeah. AndI know you do.52700:34:12,870 --> 00:34:19,770I know. You got one. And myresponse was, No. You got me.52800:34:19,860 --> 00:34:20,490You got me52900:34:20,490 --> 00:34:25,890Nailed it. Nailed it. I'm gladit's t x t though. Okay, so I53000:34:25,890 --> 00:34:28,620said, I don't care. I don't carewhat your wife says.53100:34:30,060 --> 00:34:35,910She's not my wife. Right. So Isaid, Well, you know, that's a53200:34:35,910 --> 00:34:40,860good point. Actually. Maybe I docare. And I've been in I have53300:34:41,460 --> 00:34:43,740and I've been deluding myself.53400:34:43,740 --> 00:34:45,990Ah, the monkey comes out of thesleeve.53500:34:47,609 --> 00:34:48,989Is that is that a saying of53600:34:49,019 --> 00:34:52,439Confucius as the saying of theDutch the OPCOM that the Mao53700:34:52,950 --> 00:34:56,190okay, I thought this was like,Man was Holand pocket feel53800:34:56,190 --> 00:35:03,720cookie all day close. That wasUm, so I said, I was like, okay,53900:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,410you know, I'm busted here. I'vebeen in you to use your54000:35:07,770 --> 00:35:11,070parlance. I've been de Kloet.Yeah, yes, yeah, maybe I'd maybe54100:35:11,070 --> 00:35:15,300actually do care. So I had to Ihad to spend. It's been a good54200:35:15,300 --> 00:35:15,990day and a half.54300:35:17,279 --> 00:35:20,309Yeah, that's, uh, that will messwith your mind, man.54400:35:20,879 --> 00:35:25,829Yeah. So that, you know,thought, well, I finally came to54500:35:25,829 --> 00:35:30,359this conclusion. I was like, Youknow what, I think I do care.54600:35:31,259 --> 00:35:40,979But the reason I care is that Iwant people to have ownership54700:35:41,549 --> 00:35:46,739over the things that theycreate, to some degree. It's54800:35:46,739 --> 00:35:49,169sort of like giving credit wherecredit's due.54900:35:49,770 --> 00:35:53,370Okay. That's, that's a veryreasonable argument. I mean, he55000:35:53,370 --> 00:35:57,270already had me back at hay. Hebirthed this to life. So he had55100:35:57,270 --> 00:35:58,080to get to name it.55200:35:58,860 --> 00:36:03,840Well, you know, so I brought upand I will get into some of55300:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,910these tags in a second. But Ideveloped another type proposal55400:36:08,940 --> 00:36:15,720this past week called podcast,colon state. And Daniel said,55500:36:15,990 --> 00:36:17,730Well, I don't think we shouldcall it stay. We should call it55600:36:17,730 --> 00:36:18,270something else.55700:36:18,300 --> 00:36:24,210But you birth it tag. You're it?Yeah. And, and by the way,55800:36:24,270 --> 00:36:27,720without even looking, I knowwhat it means. What do you think55900:36:27,720 --> 00:36:33,090it means? Is it is it a freetest account? Or is it a paid56000:36:33,090 --> 00:36:34,860subscriber? Basically,56100:36:34,890 --> 00:36:40,500yes, that's exactly what it is.Yep. Yep. That and this, yes,56200:36:40,500 --> 00:36:44,070that's exactly what it is. And,you know, in my response to56300:36:44,070 --> 00:36:47,670Daniel, when, when this wasmine, this was my tag proposal.56400:36:48,420 --> 00:36:58,110And my response was, you know,you can I give you carte blanche56500:36:58,110 --> 00:37:02,340to name this tag, whatever youwould like, Daniel. I mean, you.56600:37:03,030 --> 00:37:04,770I'm giving you this. So you name56700:37:05,910 --> 00:37:12,540a gentleman. Very nice. Yes.Yeah. Okay, now, I mean, all56800:37:12,540 --> 00:37:14,370right. What am I Swiss cheese?56900:37:15,060 --> 00:37:21,060No, no, you're the interface. Soas a unit, okay,57000:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,340so what so what is that? So whatis it now?57100:37:23,550 --> 00:37:24,510I don't know yet. He's not.57200:37:24,660 --> 00:37:27,930Oh, okay. Oh, I'm excited. Thisis this is very interesting. If57300:37:27,930 --> 00:37:30,840the gun with our little familyhere, Dave. And blow57400:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,250by blow. We wreak rave. This islong form, recruit recounting57500:37:35,250 --> 00:37:37,890what happened in GitHub issues.So this is something that57600:37:37,920 --> 00:37:38,520riveting57700:37:39,060 --> 00:37:43,170Okay, now, just as a podcasterback to that, that was really57800:37:43,170 --> 00:37:45,390beautiful. Man. You were reallyhonest there. I mean, not the57900:37:45,390 --> 00:37:50,160non honest but you were you wentabove and beyond and then you,58000:37:50,730 --> 00:37:54,810you actually gave away somethingthat you cherish so much forsake58100:37:54,810 --> 00:38:00,570of of all, good and harmony, andDaniel's quaking in his boost,58200:38:00,570 --> 00:38:03,300like, Oh, crap, and I gotta comeup with a killer name that58300:38:03,300 --> 00:38:05,250everybody goes, Oh, yeah,totally.58400:38:05,550 --> 00:38:08,880Yeah, this name has to slay, tobe amazing.58500:38:08,940 --> 00:38:10,980No pressure, no pressure at all.58600:38:12,090 --> 00:38:15,420That was like, you know, I waslike, you know, what? I'm gonna58700:38:15,420 --> 00:38:20,070give I'm gonna give this nameaway and and such. In the58800:38:20,070 --> 00:38:25,290future. I think that that shouldbe the standard is that the58900:38:25,290 --> 00:38:30,870person who creates the whobrings the proposal, they get59000:38:30,870 --> 00:38:33,540the ultimate say, on what isnamed. And that doesn't mean59100:38:33,540 --> 00:38:35,490that you people can't suggest dosuggestions59200:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,660or caveats. Okay, I'd like tocaveat. So people, so you59300:38:39,660 --> 00:38:42,540basically gave it away, butultimately, you're the boss.59400:38:42,990 --> 00:38:44,400No, no, that's not what I say.59500:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,660I misunderstood. I don't mind if59600:38:48,660 --> 00:38:51,690people are like, hey, maybe asuggestion, we should name it so59700:38:51,690 --> 00:38:54,540and so. But when the guy thatcreated it, or the girl that59800:38:54,540 --> 00:38:58,770created it says no, I want it tobe this case closed, everybody,59900:38:58,860 --> 00:39:01,380everybody just shut up, youknow, and stop and let's move on60000:39:01,380 --> 00:39:03,750to bigger and better things.Right. And so I think that60100:39:03,750 --> 00:39:09,420moving forward, the proposer isthe Neymar unless they give that60200:39:09,750 --> 00:39:12,510right away to someone else,right? Yes. Now, is60300:39:12,510 --> 00:39:16,380this in our Constitution? Or isthis in our commandments? Death60400:39:16,410 --> 00:39:20,820lately? We don't have any ofthat I'm gonna forget that this60500:39:20,820 --> 00:39:22,170even happened like a week fromnow.60600:39:22,950 --> 00:39:27,240I'll remind you this is what Imean. We all work should be like60700:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,780this. All projects should belike this.60800:39:31,140 --> 00:39:34,050But Englewood, incrediblydisorganized and crazy fun.60900:39:34,050 --> 00:39:37,800Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I likerunning stuff like that. It's61000:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,220not for61100:39:38,220 --> 00:39:43,440everybody right. Blueberry addedputting everything Oh, dynamite61200:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,410everything. Yeah, across theborder. Yeah, Todd man.61300:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,760It was so cool to listen to newmedia show. So you see he's all61400:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,980he starts off and he's jackedand he's talking about his61500:39:52,980 --> 00:39:56,370booster grams and, and he'slike, Adam, send me your address61600:39:56,370 --> 00:40:00,990for your stickers, and I and Iboost him with a The another61700:40:00,990 --> 00:40:03,930Maxi boost with a stick withthis with the address and like,61800:40:04,110 --> 00:40:06,840where's this going to WHO CARESis on lightning guide take it a61900:40:07,590 --> 00:40:14,130boost that docks myself on theLightning Network. And then and62000:40:14,130 --> 00:40:18,990then he went into like an hourof stuff about advertising62100:40:19,920 --> 00:40:28,170numbers and IAB and you fellasleep. Ah, it was just like I62200:40:28,170 --> 00:40:33,150was so excited. I understand. Iunderstand. Before we get into62300:40:33,150 --> 00:40:35,400namespace there was one otherlittle piece of news I wanted to62400:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,570throw out there. I can'tremember who was on podcast62500:40:39,570 --> 00:40:44,820index dot social said he's doinga value for value plugin for62600:40:44,820 --> 00:40:49,080peer tube that oh reallyconnecting to Aldi. Yeah.62700:40:50,460 --> 00:40:55,200Oh, okay. So this is going to besomething for peer tube proper.62800:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,990Not not just in a tube,62900:40:58,350 --> 00:41:00,780I guess. Yeah, I guess that'swhat he posted.63000:41:02,010 --> 00:41:06,570Oh, that that's an that's an SSSneeded and that's really great.63100:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,360Yeah, I didn't I didn't seethis. So who was it the posted I63200:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,050must have missed it.63300:41:11,550 --> 00:41:15,060I can find it cuz I was talkingto moe. We've been working on63400:41:15,060 --> 00:41:21,750some stuff. All good. He's like,man, every YouTube there already63500:41:21,750 --> 00:41:24,240that just look at everyone'sstarting to figure it out, you63600:41:24,240 --> 00:41:28,290know, the, he gets screwedshadowbanned de platformed et63700:41:28,290 --> 00:41:33,300cetera, et cetera, et cetera.And you know, it just needs to63800:41:33,300 --> 00:41:39,750be we need to tie a few thingstogether just a few things to63900:41:39,750 --> 00:41:42,810people and they will come andthey will start using it and64000:41:42,810 --> 00:41:46,380let's start using apps thatsupport it. But that's the I64100:41:46,380 --> 00:41:49,920think the main thing is what I'mworried about is they come and64200:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,610we don't have the actual peer toparts set up everyone's just you64300:41:53,610 --> 00:41:56,190know sucking off a one or twopipes I mean, that's not going64400:41:56,190 --> 00:41:57,180to work that's too64500:41:57,180 --> 00:42:00,000much is way too much that'sthat'll crack that'll just bring64600:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,450the whole thing down video soheavy64700:42:03,510 --> 00:42:07,710but the the whole idea of thechat of the booster grams of the64800:42:07,710 --> 00:42:11,370live we have it all we're doingright now you're soaking in it64900:42:11,370 --> 00:42:17,280maj we just don't have the videocomponent and it's not65000:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,620necessarily simple to set up.But if it gets a little bit more65100:42:22,620 --> 00:42:25,620if the process becomes a littletighter everyone knows how to do65200:42:25,620 --> 00:42:29,310rmtp streams and they do thatfrom stream yard and all this65300:42:29,310 --> 00:42:36,090stuff. But it's just these thelast few things. Since it's here65400:42:36,090 --> 00:42:38,160it is her head.65500:42:39,330 --> 00:42:42,150Okay, okay, I'm in her head andyou know65600:42:42,150 --> 00:42:46,620I'm working on. I'm working on apeer to plugin. To allow the for65700:42:46,620 --> 00:42:49,440V with video and audio, all thecreator needs to do is put a65800:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,380lightning address like herhead@gmail.com and the65900:42:52,380 --> 00:42:57,480description or support blocks ofthe channels or support support66000:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,810blocks of the channel slashaccount. Then viewers from an66100:43:00,810 --> 00:43:05,400instance that has the pluginwill be able to send SATs. Okay,66200:43:05,610 --> 00:43:08,340currently, the test site isworking with the Alby plugin to66300:43:08,340 --> 00:43:11,250send booster grams, if any peerto creators add the address to66400:43:11,250 --> 00:43:14,700that account, let me know so Ican send some test sets. So66500:43:14,700 --> 00:43:16,590that's not quite the same.66600:43:17,430 --> 00:43:21,240So it's not a back end module.It's a it's a browser side.66700:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,160Seems like is that what I'mhearing? Okay. I mean, not66800:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,240ideal. No,66900:43:28,470 --> 00:43:32,190no, no, no. And I was like, Alexis busy.67000:43:33,330 --> 00:43:35,940Now he's a busy man. He juststarted a new gig. So he's very67100:43:35,940 --> 00:43:36,630busy. And he also67200:43:36,630 --> 00:43:37,800doesn't want to get screwed.67300:43:39,330 --> 00:43:41,010Yeah, I don't blame him. I don'tlike that. He's67400:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,190no meanie that says like, I'mvery, very protective of it.67500:43:44,190 --> 00:43:48,090Like, yeah, me keep sending meshoot videos. Is she?67600:43:52,020 --> 00:43:55,680Oh, do you wanna? You want to dosome talking about the sovereign67700:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,020nation? We got to do names. Youwant to talk about the event67800:43:58,020 --> 00:44:00,990then? In a way? Yeah. Events.Let's talk about the events.67900:44:01,020 --> 00:44:04,980Okay. Proposal. Yes. Who wasproposals this? This is68000:44:06,000 --> 00:44:13,050John Spurlock. He proposedpodcast. CO lon, like James68100:44:13,050 --> 00:44:21,630would say podcast colon events.And this is basically it defines68200:44:21,660 --> 00:44:30,330a web hook for a URL and API URLof some sort. That is going that68300:44:30,330 --> 00:44:35,940the host host or publisher of apodcast has set up in order to68400:44:35,940 --> 00:44:42,540receive event messages fromother parties that are about68500:44:42,690 --> 00:44:49,380this show or this podcast feed.So things like his only example68600:44:49,380 --> 00:44:55,200so far. Is the Listen, cousinkind. These are the kinds of68700:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,500events you can have. So it's aListen,68800:44:58,530 --> 00:45:01,530let me just interrupt youbecause I read through this. So68900:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,250you didn't, okay. Yeah, doesn'tmean I understand this. So the69000:45:05,250 --> 00:45:09,420idea is this is being sent fromthe player from the app back to69100:45:09,420 --> 00:45:11,010the feed owner.69200:45:12,630 --> 00:45:19,260In the, in the case of theListen kind of event, that would69300:45:19,260 --> 00:45:24,780be the case. But it doesn't meanthat it necessarily has to come69400:45:24,780 --> 00:45:28,620from the player because I think,I think in his mind, he's69500:45:28,620 --> 00:45:31,650thinking that it would probablycome from a proxy server that is69600:45:31,650 --> 00:45:36,960serving the player and not theplayer itself. And that's the69700:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,810way I read the documentation.Okay. Because, because it needs69800:45:42,810 --> 00:45:45,720a JW T signed by a private key,69900:45:46,500 --> 00:45:48,120I have a couple here hold on asecond.70000:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,540Best Phoebe take them out of theroom.70100:45:52,110 --> 00:45:53,310She was munching on70200:45:54,690 --> 00:45:59,760the private key can't really itcan't be device side, it can't70300:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,850be browser side or any of that.So it really is really has to be70400:46:02,850 --> 00:46:08,190on a server level. To talk aboutit for it to just read what he70500:46:08,190 --> 00:46:11,340said. He said, allows podcastfeed allow podcast feed70600:46:11,340 --> 00:46:15,000publishers to define one or moreserver endpoints to receive70700:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,610incoming events from othertrusted third parties regarding70800:46:17,610 --> 00:46:20,250the show, represented by thefeed in question, guys,70900:46:20,250 --> 00:46:25,140this is also gonna be rating, itcould be reviews, just call the71000:46:25,140 --> 00:46:25,890simple shit.71100:46:26,880 --> 00:46:34,440Yeah. And so like, my first it'sa nice proposal. I mean, it, it71200:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,270makes a lot of sense, it seemsto be. I mean, it's well put71300:46:39,270 --> 00:46:43,980together as most of you know,all of his stuff is. Mike71400:46:44,130 --> 00:46:47,700has blessed graphs, he has nicegraphs and stuff and example,71500:46:47,730 --> 00:46:48,960pictures, pictures,71600:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,130and the JW T is the right way togo in this circumstance. So71700:46:53,130 --> 00:46:57,180this will come from a servicebasically that you then this71800:46:57,180 --> 00:47:00,420service, whatever it is, that'sthe trusted party, and you are a71900:47:00,420 --> 00:47:02,430user of that service in somefashion.72000:47:03,420 --> 00:47:05,820I think so. And then you wouldhave like, for instance,72100:47:07,530 --> 00:47:11,760overcast? Or I'm trying to thinkof other apps that have servers,72200:47:11,820 --> 00:47:15,720server backends, pod verse,things like that would have72300:47:16,110 --> 00:47:20,520their server would know what seethe listening data, and then72400:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,830just communicate this back tothe hosting companies in point72500:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,640ah, um, in, in batch in batchesor something. Right. So72600:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,120it could be a whole host ofissues, which Oh, this is very,72700:47:33,510 --> 00:47:38,880okay, hold on a second lightbulbmoment. Okay. This sounds a lot72800:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,520like the beginning of I willshare my data with you. And I'm72900:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,970going to determine exactly whatI want to share and with who,73000:47:48,810 --> 00:47:51,780based on maybe even keys or Idon't know if the trusted party73100:47:51,780 --> 00:47:56,280is trustworthy enough. But andthis is kind of the first73200:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,730permission driven loop that theuser controls.73300:48:04,770 --> 00:48:07,710I think that's, I think that's afair assessment. Yeah,73400:48:07,740 --> 00:48:11,520knowing knowing, knowing knowingJ S, that's what it feels like.73500:48:12,060 --> 00:48:13,440Because he's good man.73600:48:14,550 --> 00:48:17,010I think that makes a lot of Ithink that's a good way to way73700:48:17,010 --> 00:48:23,250to say it. And I can see, here'smy here's a couple of his73800:48:23,250 --> 00:48:25,950initial feedback. And this waswhat I was afraid of his This is73900:48:25,950 --> 00:48:28,920not my concerns, and these arenot, this is not my feedback.74000:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,320But these are the feedback thatthere's the feedback I saw74100:48:31,590 --> 00:48:35,850straight out of the gate is thishas been tried before with NPR74200:48:35,850 --> 00:48:38,460and red and the redspecification, and it didn't go74300:48:38,460 --> 00:48:43,950anywhere. And you know, we needto be careful with that. That's74400:48:43,950 --> 00:48:49,050fair. That is very that is afair criticism. And except I74500:48:49,050 --> 00:48:55,080think strategically, this I cansee what he's trying to do here.74600:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,960Events, and events style webreceiver. Makes a lot of sense.74700:49:01,380 --> 00:49:04,260But I really think in orderthere's the there's the squishy74800:49:04,260 --> 00:49:05,100part of74900:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,990what you just said somethinglike write down event events and75000:49:09,990 --> 00:49:15,150dial web receiver is what Iheard. Is that what you said?75100:49:15,630 --> 00:49:18,330Yes, that is sexy. What is it?75200:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,510It's this thing, it's podcastcolon events. It's I have a75300:49:24,510 --> 00:49:25,380webstyle75400:49:26,130 --> 00:49:31,680event style web receiver. Everykid will want one by Christmas I75500:49:31,740 --> 00:49:32,430promise you75600:49:33,510 --> 00:49:40,920that in a that in a human youthere's the squishy part of75700:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,200trying to sell this and I usedto assess a sale and air quotes75800:49:47,400 --> 00:49:53,700in I think out of the gatehitch. I don't think this should75900:49:53,700 --> 00:49:59,430be the I don't think the exampleuse case of this should be a to76000:49:59,610 --> 00:50:00,990report It listens.76100:50:01,530 --> 00:50:05,970No. How about this? How about Ireport my email address to this76200:50:05,970 --> 00:50:09,660podcast, I decide, hey, I wantmy email address to go to them.76300:50:10,290 --> 00:50:12,870It comes authenticated. Theyknow it's me, they know I'm an76400:50:12,870 --> 00:50:17,670actual listener. And then theycan put me on a mailing list or76500:50:17,670 --> 00:50:21,000do something with that, youknow, the number of things I76600:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,930would want to give to them insome automated fashion. I see a76700:50:24,930 --> 00:50:29,880lot of use cases for that. And Ithink this just device is76800:50:29,910 --> 00:50:32,040sociis. A cluster for trout, youknow what I mean?76900:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,530Does that mean and that's thefirst thing that came to my77000:50:34,530 --> 00:50:34,980mind, the77100:50:35,190 --> 00:50:37,500keeper is as you trust hisguests,77200:50:38,370 --> 00:50:42,810and their hours thinking there'ssomething about goats that I had77300:50:42,810 --> 00:50:44,520to bid on that was right therewith you has fallen.77400:50:45,180 --> 00:50:50,250The innkeeper is as he treatshis guests. So everyone's going77500:50:50,250 --> 00:50:55,440to, you know, this is fortracking this, but let's not use77600:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,010that use case. Let's use and oneof the many. I'm sure there's77700:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,290there's many other fun ones wecan come up with.77800:51:01,770 --> 00:51:04,230Is that sort of like what's goodfor the goose is good for the77900:51:04,230 --> 00:51:06,270gander. Is that a similar type?78000:51:07,020 --> 00:51:09,480It's not quite as mean. Okay.78100:51:09,660 --> 00:51:15,000Okay. Yeah, I mean, I'm thinkingthat let's listens is going to78200:51:15,000 --> 00:51:23,070bring up bad juju across theboard for many reasons. And in I78300:51:23,070 --> 00:51:32,130think that this thing that Ithink of pod ping, but with you78400:51:32,130 --> 00:51:37,410have to establish this as avalid thing that has lots of78500:51:37,410 --> 00:51:44,880beautiful use cases and whatwould be a good word, use cases.78600:51:44,910 --> 00:51:46,170And can I give78700:51:46,170 --> 00:51:50,310an example before I forget, giveme hit it. This will be an78800:51:50,310 --> 00:51:53,850example we just just oneexample. Because you are78900:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,060completely agree with you, Icompletely agree with the79000:51:57,060 --> 00:52:03,660commenter's nonstarter trackingproblem at that all kinds of79100:52:03,660 --> 00:52:09,750issues. But if we make it funstory just came to mind which I79200:52:09,750 --> 00:52:12,570can't tell you privately, remindme to tell you the story of the79300:52:12,570 --> 00:52:21,780cream. So if we, if we make itfun. How about this? I have a79400:52:21,780 --> 00:52:29,820page. Maybe it's a chat. And onthat is a it's like a little79500:52:29,850 --> 00:52:34,620little board little LED ofpeople who are listening at that79600:52:34,620 --> 00:52:39,090very moment, and lights up. Justso you can see that. What other79700:52:39,090 --> 00:52:41,220people are listening could be ahandle doesn't have to be your79800:52:41,220 --> 00:52:45,240real name or email address. Justsomething fun, so that people on79900:52:45,240 --> 00:52:47,610the other end can say, oh, cool,man. Look at all these people.80000:52:47,700 --> 00:52:50,190Maybe it goes right back to theapp. Who else is listening right80100:52:50,190 --> 00:52:56,550now? That that's an example thatI think people would think. Oh80200:52:56,550 --> 00:52:58,410my God, Jesus.80300:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,830That is actually really cool.That is very cool. Yeah, cuz you80400:53:04,830 --> 00:53:09,330get that gives you the sort oflive feeling without having80500:53:09,390 --> 00:53:14,490without without it. Yeah. Yeah.Oh, I like that a lot. And we'll80600:53:14,490 --> 00:53:16,740call it we'll call it ping.80700:53:17,730 --> 00:53:23,580Is that such a good trackrecord? What a great. You're so80800:53:23,580 --> 00:53:24,480good at branding.80900:53:25,950 --> 00:53:29,340Isn't it? Isn't that? I mean,it's kind of the kind of does81000:53:29,340 --> 00:53:33,300everything right? It adds anincredibly cool feature shows81100:53:33,300 --> 00:53:36,510that we can think out of the boxbecause that's, you know, that's81200:53:36,510 --> 00:53:41,070what, what is the that's whatshaming everybody to shame isn't81300:53:41,070 --> 00:53:44,640all the cool stuff we have. Youknow, there are developers in81400:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,850this world right now probablylistening going. Oh, man, I wish81500:53:47,850 --> 00:53:52,680I I wish I could work on that.Yeah, instead, you know, it's81600:53:52,680 --> 00:53:58,860like, Oh, got it. Got to improvethe signup page. Got to work on81700:53:58,860 --> 00:53:59,460the flow.81800:53:59,880 --> 00:54:00,780That's fun.81900:54:01,860 --> 00:54:04,230And not knocking people have towork because we all have to do82000:54:04,230 --> 00:54:05,670crap. Obviously.82100:54:06,660 --> 00:54:10,620That's a beautiful idea that Ilove that that is a way that you82200:54:10,620 --> 00:54:16,290can Yeah, that's perfect becauseyou can you can sell the benefit82300:54:16,290 --> 00:54:20,160of having this type of systemwithout the without all the82400:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,700baggage and all the crap thathas gone you know, that82500:54:23,700 --> 00:54:26,550everybody's like the you know,that starts arguments and82600:54:26,550 --> 00:54:26,910everything.82700:54:27,210 --> 00:54:30,330Well, it's already starting sirbemrose in the in the chat room82800:54:30,330 --> 00:54:33,450says fascinating use case. Ican't wait to spoof it.82900:54:34,349 --> 00:54:38,429But yeah, thanks. Thanks.Thanks. bemrose. There's,83000:54:38,549 --> 00:54:44,189there's always there's alwaysone. The, you know, so there's83100:54:44,189 --> 00:54:48,539others. We can think of lots ofdifferent lots of different83200:54:48,539 --> 00:54:53,789events that could happen in inthe use of a show like I could83300:54:53,789 --> 00:54:56,519think I was thinking of errorreporting on the lace. Tim,83400:54:56,579 --> 00:55:00,689you're all you have like all thefun stuff you had And I'm like,83500:55:00,779 --> 00:55:01,139Yeah,83600:55:01,620 --> 00:55:04,230you're doing you're doing Oh,when someone's pissed off use83700:55:04,230 --> 00:55:07,890this cool use. This is thepissed off namespace element83800:55:07,890 --> 00:55:12,000that we've just created whenyou're angry at podcasting 2.083900:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,250Use this element in84000:55:14,970 --> 00:55:19,050this. So like, if I doubt it,okay, so the eight minute thing.84100:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,210The you your feed was reportingincorrect or84200:55:24,210 --> 00:55:27,210a messaging bus? Yes. Yeah.Before? Yes.84300:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,979So I can You can report back tothe host, hey, this this,84400:55:32,009 --> 00:55:34,289there's something screwed upwith this feed the feed won't84500:55:34,289 --> 00:55:34,859parse,84600:55:35,340 --> 00:55:37,410that we'll have to restrict thatso that it doesn't become a84700:55:37,410 --> 00:55:41,730messaging bus for people to sendmessages. You know, it has to,84800:55:42,210 --> 00:55:46,140it has to be kind of like, Imean, that's to be talked about84900:55:47,010 --> 00:55:49,860this. Because before you knowwhat the next thing is, and you85000:55:49,860 --> 00:55:53,880got to pay in SATs, you know,let's keep it simple. Yeah. So85100:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,720none of that and have that. Sojust maybe the idea of what pops85200:55:57,720 --> 00:56:01,320up is people also listening tothis podcast at this moment.85300:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,260So the the other thing thathappened that happened in Reno85400:56:07,260 --> 00:56:15,090related to this was, it was theantenna pod guys. And evidently85500:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,470didn't know this was happening.But they had like an open API85600:56:20,100 --> 00:56:24,480discussion for sharing databetween apps, like data85700:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,910portability between apps. In soin general, I think this is all85800:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,240it's all related. Oh, really?Cool. Yeah, this is really85900:56:33,240 --> 00:56:36,270promising really great, becausethis is exactly this is what86000:56:36,270 --> 00:56:40,110we're talking about last week,we were talking about the need86100:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,750that there there's a big needfor an open standardized way to86200:56:45,750 --> 00:56:50,700pass information back and forthbetween disparate parties within86300:56:50,700 --> 00:56:54,960the podcast industrial complex,who there has to be like, ways86400:56:54,960 --> 00:57:02,970to push it like, Okay, I've gotsome data here. I am pod verse.86500:57:03,870 --> 00:57:07,980And I know that a bunch ofpeople are listening to this86600:57:08,010 --> 00:57:14,970show. Did blueberry and I wantto let blueberry know that86700:57:14,970 --> 00:57:20,910that's the case. Yeah. For a lotof people, here's, here's a86800:57:20,910 --> 00:57:25,890better one. Here's a better one.And this is another kind of86900:57:25,890 --> 00:57:33,960event that can be done in thisreporting followers. So the apps87000:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,780know how many users aresubscribed to a show, but the87100:57:36,780 --> 00:57:40,680hosts don't know that they onlysee downloads, they they may87200:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,660want they may find it, find itvery useful for to aggregate87300:57:45,660 --> 00:57:52,230into except an event in pointexcept subscriber reporting. Or87400:57:52,230 --> 00:57:54,750things like we can we can thinkof probably we could probably87500:57:54,750 --> 00:57:57,510get to get, you know, sit hereand think of 12 different it87600:57:57,510 --> 00:57:57,660all.87700:57:57,990 --> 00:58:01,140It all boils down to share yourOPML you know that, don't you?87800:58:02,340 --> 00:58:06,330It's always the same. Yeah,sure. It's always very open.87900:58:06,600 --> 00:58:06,870It's88000:58:07,110 --> 00:58:13,080always defaults to that. Okay.Yeah. So J s just posted. Dave88100:58:13,080 --> 00:58:19,410and Adam are getting it colong.It's a general purpose channel88200:58:19,410 --> 00:58:23,640for receiving unforeseeableevents from client apps.88300:58:24,180 --> 00:58:29,910Yes. So. So all of that beingsaid, I think it's fantastic88400:58:29,910 --> 00:58:32,010proposal. My only88500:58:32,310 --> 00:58:34,140you don't like to know. And then88600:58:36,240 --> 00:58:41,340it should be called ice cream.But the the one issue that I88700:58:41,340 --> 00:58:46,320have, and it's not really anissue, it's just a question. We88800:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,730already have a message bus andit's called pod pain. Why? Why88900:58:50,730 --> 00:58:56,370do we need a separate bus? Is itit's an honest question, is this89000:58:56,370 --> 00:59:03,330for privacy? Is it because ofconcern about overloading hive,89100:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,700I mean, because we already J WTScan be attached JSON payloads89200:59:08,700 --> 00:59:11,340can be attached all this stuff.All of this could be done89300:59:11,340 --> 00:59:16,200through pod ping. And so I justwonder, you know why we don't89400:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,020just use piping and well, weneed to build a separate thing.89500:59:19,020 --> 00:59:21,840So that's, that is my onlyquestion. God, Dave89600:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,410Jones. This is why I love you.You know how you know how to89700:59:25,410 --> 00:59:29,010bring me out of your foriaWithin just a nanosecond and89800:59:29,010 --> 00:59:34,980make me think, as an excellentquestion. I only want one thing.89900:59:35,970 --> 00:59:41,910All right. Please, Brian ofLondon. Please don't post 500090000:59:41,910 --> 00:59:46,620words about why it's good. Wegot it. We understand. We love90100:59:46,620 --> 00:59:46,770you.90200:59:47,430 --> 00:59:51,480D do a peak D article. Yes. Atpoint two input and point to it.90300:59:51,480 --> 00:59:51,840Yes.90400:59:53,340 --> 00:59:59,070That's a fascinating question.And crikey,90500:59:59,820 --> 01:00:03,600it While Spurlock just posted alink to a reply that I will read90601:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,610later, because that's boringcontent for a podcast. So I will90701:00:08,610 --> 01:00:11,370read that later. He is probablygot All right.90801:00:13,769 --> 01:00:17,579Well, we can move on to the nextitem on the agenda.90901:00:18,300 --> 01:00:21,600Oh, he says, Dave could create abridge to pod thing in a91001:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,200weekend. All right. Well, thatis a very that is a fair enough.91101:00:25,800 --> 01:00:26,160All right,91201:00:26,190 --> 01:00:28,530well, you could have just donethat without posting the link91301:00:28,530 --> 01:00:29,430you show off.91401:00:33,210 --> 01:00:37,170But, so that's podcast events.That's that's one thing under91501:00:37,170 --> 01:00:47,610proposal in the basics, the TX Dtag that its first use case, is91601:00:47,610 --> 01:00:52,170going to be as a verifymechanism. So the way that Apple91701:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,480is all starts with Apple, eventhough lots of people could do91801:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,900it and do some and some may doit, but we know for sure that91901:01:00,900 --> 01:01:07,230Apple verifies feed ownership.They currently do this now. And92001:01:07,260 --> 01:01:09,900they are definitely going tosolidify this in the future92101:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,540because they're recommending theremoval of email addresses from92201:01:12,540 --> 01:01:19,260RSS feeds. what Apple does nowis they say, Okay, if you want92301:01:19,260 --> 01:01:22,980us to do something with yourfeed, like included in Apple92401:01:22,980 --> 01:01:27,030podcasts, or verify ownership,you're going to have to go to92501:01:27,030 --> 01:01:29,970your feed and stick a magicnumber in there somewhere92601:01:30,030 --> 01:01:33,150in your show in your descriptionfield or something show Yeah,92701:01:33,150 --> 01:01:34,140show notes show notes.92801:01:34,590 --> 01:01:37,320Yeah, well, you know, that's,that's ugly. That's very nice.92901:01:37,710 --> 01:01:43,470I was gonna say for apple thatis really, like super low grade.93001:01:43,470 --> 01:01:47,160And that that's, it's, it's offbrand. I agree it is93101:01:47,190 --> 01:01:50,610off brand, it is totally offbrand for Apalis. Like even93201:01:50,610 --> 01:01:51,000Google93301:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,290is more eloquent than that.93401:01:53,820 --> 01:01:57,120Create this 40 character thingof gobbledygook and stick this93501:01:57,120 --> 01:02:02,190in your show notes somewhere,right? Got it. So they would93601:02:02,190 --> 01:02:07,410very much benefit from having ageneral purpose tag that would93701:02:07,410 --> 01:02:13,140hold just random freeform UTFeight.93801:02:13,830 --> 01:02:18,210Oh, perfect and perfect. And andso then that will be their entry93901:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,980into the namespace. And we wouldwelcome them with In fact, I94001:02:22,980 --> 01:02:28,890have been keeping this bottle ofa Bollinger on ice. It's I got94101:02:28,890 --> 01:02:32,550some years I got some caviar, Igot some hookers. I got some94201:02:32,550 --> 01:02:35,520primo Columbian, you know whatI'm saying? Ted Hoffman94301:02:36,930 --> 01:02:41,910just changed the ice three timesa day, that94401:02:43,530 --> 01:02:45,030wouldn't be celebrating forthat.94501:02:45,870 --> 01:02:50,100Fourth, so the node value ispurely what it says on the box.94601:02:50,100 --> 01:02:56,580It's D, it's just like a DNS TXTrecord. It has its 400094701:02:56,580 --> 01:03:01,050characters of free form UTF.Eight, can hold whatever it94801:03:01,050 --> 01:03:05,100needs, whatever you want it tohold. There's no limits. And94901:03:06,090 --> 01:03:10,290there's one attribute and theattribute is a 128 character,95001:03:11,010 --> 01:03:17,040string. That is called purpose.And so that is, again, free95101:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,420form. And the whole idea here iswe're not there's no slug lists,95201:03:21,540 --> 01:03:28,620there's no predefined. makedecision parameters about what95301:03:28,620 --> 01:03:30,210should be you know, it's easy.In95401:03:30,210 --> 01:03:33,720fact, you could have someonesay, well, we prefer for you to95501:03:33,750 --> 01:03:36,540do that with your email address.You could put that in your txt95601:03:36,540 --> 01:03:39,210field, straight up straight.95701:03:40,020 --> 01:03:45,990DNS, grooviness had TXT record.And what we saw come out of that95801:03:46,710 --> 01:03:52,920was crazy stuff like SPFrecords. Oh, yeah. And that95901:03:52,920 --> 01:03:58,440something that is something thatnobody ever would have thought96001:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,760was going to be a thing. I mean,you know, 30 years ago, when DNS96101:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,120was was being born. Nobodythought about the SPF record,96201:04:06,180 --> 01:04:10,920but because it had this generalpurpose tag, it's essentially in96301:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,770it, you could do it this thingscould be created and96401:04:13,770 --> 01:04:16,59030 years ago, I didn't have toexplain to at least one person a96501:04:16,590 --> 01:04:18,900week why No, it's your mailserver.96601:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,720Mr. Thanks. I keep gettingbounced man.96701:04:24,750 --> 01:04:27,480Yeah, you're misconfigured No,I'm not everyone can receive my96801:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,170email.96901:04:28,950 --> 01:04:31,200Except other servers that areproperly configured. Yeah,97001:04:31,200 --> 01:04:31,860that's what I'm saying.97101:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,250I make no exceptions. I'm sorry,ma'am. Yeah, no, you don't need97201:04:35,250 --> 01:04:35,430to.97301:04:38,040 --> 01:04:45,360The so the TX T tag can servethis role as just a general97401:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,480purpose catch all for people toexperiment with and all this97501:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,200kind of stuff. And in the DNSworld, if you go and claim if97601:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,280you go and say, if you sign upfor something like office 36597701:04:57,030 --> 01:05:00,450And you want to prove toMicrosoft in the year The owner97801:05:00,450 --> 01:05:04,290of this domain, they're going torequire you to put a magic value97901:05:04,290 --> 01:05:05,760into a TXT record98001:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,660with Microsoft, put your creditcard in there. That's98101:05:10,020 --> 01:05:15,870the way to do it. And so that'sthe first use case of this thing98201:05:15,870 --> 01:05:18,780is going to be as a VerificationMechanism and that will allow98301:05:18,780 --> 01:05:22,200everybody to remove emailaddresses out of their feeds and98401:05:22,710 --> 01:05:26,190we can all move forward andwe'll also have something that's98501:05:26,190 --> 01:05:29,400multipurpose we can do use itfor other things in the future98601:05:29,429 --> 01:05:33,359and again, it's easy entrant foreverybody to be a part of98701:05:33,359 --> 01:05:36,719everyone hates decided thissystem and so here we go. Hold98801:05:36,719 --> 01:05:41,789on Hold a beer. We'll fix it foryou. Yeah, free of charge. Just98901:05:41,789 --> 01:05:43,829value Yep, just99001:05:43,830 --> 01:05:51,060in this boost. I don't knowwhere we would what do we want99101:05:51,060 --> 01:05:52,890to thank some people Yeah, hewrote99201:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,190now let's thank some people andthen we'll wrap up with some99301:05:56,190 --> 01:06:03,120more namespace first the what'sbeen coming in during our lit99401:06:03,120 --> 01:06:09,480the lit program here as we'relive. Currently curio caster and99501:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,470pod verse are lit compatible.And pod verse gives you a nice99601:06:13,470 --> 01:06:16,740little let me see did I get mynotification today? Yes, I did.99701:06:17,160 --> 01:06:25,500Notification. We got. Oh, nice.We got 100,000 SATs from Linkin99801:06:25,500 --> 01:06:31,800Park rule. Shot kala 20 isplayed on am fala Singh Hunter99901:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,390grant gets a big baller. XMPP isdope. Another protocol that was100001:06:36,390 --> 01:06:40,440established a while ago that hasyet to be fully utilized. JMP100101:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,250dot chat is a great example.Anyways, keep killing it guys100201:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,410sent via pod verse premium,100301:06:47,700 --> 01:06:50,010premium pro verse premium. Ilike how it says I like a100401:06:50,040 --> 01:06:55,050premium in the app name. That'scool. No, he he wrote that in100501:06:55,050 --> 01:06:58,320the message. Yeah, you should dothat. Mitch, you should put100601:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,250premium I agree.100701:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,250Because that's aspirational.like crap, man. I wanted to say100801:07:02,250 --> 01:07:06,180that I'm proud. I want to looklike a baller. Yeah. And there100901:07:06,180 --> 01:07:10,800is 10,000 SATs from Mitch. Thankyou very much. Chad 333101001:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,610Blueberry row a duck's always,always, always, always bring a101101:07:14,610 --> 01:07:21,330towel he says. See Brooklyn 112with 12345 Satoshis thanks for101201:07:21,330 --> 01:07:30,750the Chimera blob go podcastinggo podcast egg let's see what101301:07:30,750 --> 01:07:34,500else we're doing. 1000 and over10,000 from Eric P P. All he101401:07:34,500 --> 01:07:39,810says is pew pew there's DredScott with a row ducks pew pew101501:07:40,080 --> 01:07:47,340Chad F for the 3333 servo withthe same one a one a one from101601:07:47,370 --> 01:07:53,280hard hat who just says thecaboose boost blueberry with a101701:07:53,280 --> 01:07:59,940super freedom boost 17,776 Icome to chew bubblegum and boost101801:07:59,940 --> 01:08:08,220SATs and either Bubba Gump ChadF with 3333 He's spacing his his101901:08:08,220 --> 01:08:11,010boost really liked the lit imagefor the show. Yeah, it's only102001:08:11,610 --> 01:08:14,820new I didn't it somehow I postedthe wrong part. It's like a102101:08:14,820 --> 01:08:16,590vector image or something but102201:08:17,730 --> 01:08:19,830you that did you change theimage? Well, I102301:08:19,830 --> 01:08:22,980always do a new one we for litas a new image every single time102401:08:22,980 --> 01:08:25,320now. It's just a lightning bolt.But there's supposed to be two102501:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,680V's and the lightning bolt thatis a four. It's in the show102601:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,690notes. If someone can maybesomeone can.102701:08:31,470 --> 01:08:33,600How big is it? Is the applegonna pick it up? Are you102801:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,440keeping it under?102901:08:34,470 --> 01:08:39,120No, no, I don't. I don't sync itto the channel. Yeah, okay. I've103001:08:39,120 --> 01:08:44,160learned my lessons. And then Tedhas to track me down. It's like,103101:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,950bro, it's not gonna update Ed.103201:08:48,060 --> 01:08:51,420He might get that ugly. We stillgot that ugly ass art in the in103301:08:51,420 --> 01:08:55,260the Apple though. In the applepodcast directory.103401:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,980I don't know. I mean, I don'tknow why that is. That makes103501:08:58,980 --> 01:09:01,470sense. The one with thescissors. Really? Don't tell103601:09:01,470 --> 01:09:03,750them. Oh, no, but that's becauseit's an illegal upload.103701:09:04,199 --> 01:09:10,409Yeah, no, but but it's justthere. It's bad. Branding.103801:09:10,650 --> 01:09:15,270Now this would be an outstandingmoment to send an event message.103901:09:15,720 --> 01:09:23,280It would be this image is wrongas this image is wrong. 54,321104001:09:23,280 --> 01:09:32,490from Dred Scott pre show boostgo podcasting podcast. 21,017104101:09:32,520 --> 01:09:39,210Dobie Das, who just says aboost. Boost. Let me think. And104201:09:39,210 --> 01:09:43,890that's it. That's those were ourpre and lit boosters. And thank104301:09:43,890 --> 01:09:47,700you all very much. You get it.You get the value and you're104401:09:47,730 --> 01:09:50,160throwing it right back in ourface and we really appreciate104501:09:50,160 --> 01:09:50,310it.104601:09:51,360 --> 01:09:57,270We have zero take house. We likeone time pay bills this week.104701:09:58,260 --> 01:10:03,450Thanks, everybody. Yeah, we'vewe've transitioned fully to the104801:10:03,450 --> 01:10:05,310Satoshis good news. All right.104901:10:06,870 --> 01:10:10,860We have mere mortals podcast orbuddy Catherine says 2222 And he105001:10:10,860 --> 01:10:13,980says, Dave, the data horror hasa nice ring to it.105101:10:17,699 --> 01:10:19,529You're sick man Kira in105201:10:19,530 --> 01:10:22,830my high school yearbook. That'swhat I said under my name data105301:10:22,830 --> 01:10:27,750or. Oh, Justin Trudeau. Did youknow he listened to the show?105401:10:27,930 --> 01:10:32,010Yeah. He also maintains achannel to my Umbral note. I105501:10:32,010 --> 01:10:32,880love Justin.105601:10:33,239 --> 01:10:38,939Yeah, just a great one. Rowsticks. 1111. He says go105701:10:38,939 --> 01:10:46,649podcasting. Do you know JustinTrudeau uses breeze because he105801:10:46,649 --> 01:10:50,669wants to maintain beautifulAmande. anonymity? Yes. And105901:10:50,669 --> 01:10:53,699custodial keys, just like, youknow, just like the regular106001:10:53,699 --> 01:11:01,319Justin Trudeau. Sir lurks a lot.Send us 11235 11,235 through106101:11:01,319 --> 01:11:06,299nine verse and he says,Providence synchronicity. Well,106201:11:06,419 --> 01:11:09,389like a good feedback loop. Wemust be resonating somehow you106301:11:09,389 --> 01:11:12,539guys go ahead and milk thosenotes for all that sweet sweet106401:11:12,539 --> 01:11:17,939data. Slurp it up. I for onevery, very, very much appreciate106501:11:17,939 --> 01:11:20,999how thoughtful you are oflistener privacy, not only with106601:11:20,999 --> 01:11:24,029hashing identifiable data, butalso giving thought to106701:11:24,029 --> 01:11:27,449mitigating attempts to deanonymize ViaSat amounts. My106801:11:27,449 --> 01:11:30,719numerology today is theFibonacci sequence. The golden106901:11:30,719 --> 01:11:34,409mean Oh, sacred geometryresonate Briley bros.107001:11:34,650 --> 01:11:37,200Nice Fibonacci boost.107101:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,430L. Did you modify that on thefly?107201:11:41,460 --> 01:11:46,080Yes, that was that was it liveperformance baby?107301:11:46,140 --> 01:11:50,880Yeah, you just edited a ride andsee Dubs. See, dubs sent us107401:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,50010,000 101 through boost CLI.And he says, I have not decided107501:11:55,500 --> 01:11:58,890how I feel about you publishingyour boost feed data, regardless107601:11:58,890 --> 01:12:02,490of your attempts to to anonymizeit. As a general rule, I like107701:12:02,490 --> 01:12:05,070this because this is like acounterpoint to to us or107801:12:05,070 --> 01:12:09,600Luxilon. As a general rule, Idon't like profiles of me being107901:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,320distributed online. If you usedhashed usernames, you can still108001:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,490link the user to other datasetsif they used the same username.108101:12:19,140 --> 01:12:25,920True, true. So your point soyour points will be probably108201:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,900these leave user namescompletely out of it.108301:12:28,770 --> 01:12:30,540This is regarding what108401:12:31,470 --> 01:12:33,720this is what we talked aboutlast week about having like this108501:12:34,170 --> 01:12:35,430way, like we108601:12:36,270 --> 01:12:39,030like boost data. Right? Okay.108701:12:39,780 --> 01:12:43,110Yeah, basically so people sayyeah, and then I was saying108801:12:43,110 --> 01:12:46,080like, we could just hash theuser names and then use not the108901:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,060numerology but just the random109001:12:48,510 --> 01:12:51,540username doesn't matter. Doesn'tmatter. We don't need to109101:12:52,020 --> 01:12:55,680Yeah, we which remove all thatwe just say remove the messages109201:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,330remove Remove everything exceptthe sad amounts. Yes, I mean,109301:13:00,450 --> 01:13:03,900that's all I was thinking of.Just the satellites.109401:13:05,610 --> 01:13:09,660Good thanks for that CTOs. Somese Oh, he's fallen out see109501:13:09,660 --> 01:13:13,35010 101 again and those one onone he says some apps already109601:13:13,350 --> 01:13:17,010sent less fields in the boostwhen fee equal true in the split109701:13:17,010 --> 01:13:20,280such as the message and thinkingthat privacy preserving apps109801:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,300should should redact all thefields when fee equals true or109901:13:24,300 --> 01:13:27,780perhaps only the fields identifythe podcast episode and app I110001:13:27,780 --> 01:13:28,500think that's a good110101:13:28,500 --> 01:13:32,250I think it's a great idea. Yep,I totally agree with that. Yeah,110201:13:32,250 --> 01:13:35,460if it's a fee don't don't sendthe message for sure.110301:13:35,760 --> 01:13:42,390Great idea. How do we solidifythat? We just did okay. Yeah,110401:13:42,420 --> 01:13:43,680we'll be watching110501:13:44,610 --> 01:13:48,690raw we will send events to theevents in point when you've when110601:13:48,690 --> 01:13:49,770you don't comply110701:13:52,710 --> 01:13:54,420the event police is here.110801:13:54,780 --> 01:13:57,390Yeah, this is this is what thisis gonna turn into this is gonna110901:13:57,480 --> 01:14:05,100turn into event police. RoySchonfeld, Roy 554 321 A Roy and111001:14:05,100 --> 01:14:08,490he gives us gives us threerocket ships and a boost111101:14:14,550 --> 01:14:17,850royal do it he'll do it. He'llhe'll do this in no time. He'll111201:14:17,850 --> 01:14:18,540have the fee.111301:14:18,630 --> 01:14:20,310Oh, yeah. Totally.111401:14:22,380 --> 01:14:26,250Up gene Everett 1234. And hejust says boost111501:14:26,970 --> 01:14:28,890boost boost111601:14:30,960 --> 01:14:36,090for Borsen and boards and goodlabor. I don't know how to board111701:14:36,120 --> 01:14:41,610blush fours and fours and foursand fours again ever since 101111801:14:41,610 --> 01:14:45,810says but he says what an introYou guys rock greetings from111901:14:45,810 --> 01:14:49,320fellow German podcaster. Thomas.I guess it's Tomas Prado.112001:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,900Alright talk Tomas. Tomas.112101:14:52,440 --> 01:14:56,490Thank you buddy. Mitch thereyour life is lit from 10,000112201:14:57,060 --> 01:15:03,930Gene been you says to cast Matiche says, with the apps112301:15:03,930 --> 01:15:07,230implementing Opie three helpmuch if the default players on112401:15:07,230 --> 01:15:12,090platforms don't also do so. Forexample, if the apple podcasts112501:15:12,090 --> 01:15:14,910and whatever androids defaultdon't support mp3 Seems like112601:15:14,910 --> 01:15:18,960massively slanted data. Youwill, you know.112701:15:22,020 --> 01:15:25,650But they don't need to supportop three. I mean, that's up to112801:15:25,650 --> 01:15:28,350the publisher, am Imisunderstanding the question?112901:15:29,250 --> 01:15:33,150I think he's asking about likeif apps just sent everything113001:15:33,150 --> 01:15:36,000through OB three withouthonoring the prefix or whatever,113101:15:36,390 --> 01:15:41,280in the in the enclosure if theyjust did it themselves? Oh, I113201:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,090see. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don'tthink they should.113301:15:45,750 --> 01:15:47,910I don't think they're going to.And so I think it's kind of a113401:15:47,910 --> 01:15:52,410moot point anyway. But begeneral in generally speaking,113501:15:52,410 --> 01:15:57,900though, this, this idea of everyapp has to do it or we don't, or113601:15:57,900 --> 01:16:01,260the data is not accurate. Idon't know that. I agree with113701:16:01,260 --> 01:16:05,970that. Because you can see, youcan extrapolate I mean,113801:16:06,300 --> 01:16:10,380statistics will allow you to getan idea of a small take, you113901:16:10,380 --> 01:16:13,320know, take a smaller set and getan idea of what the bigger set114001:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,070means. I mean, it's not. No,it's not 100%. But nothing in114101:16:17,070 --> 01:16:20,760podcast data is ever going to be100%. I mean, we just have to114201:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,580accept that that's the fact.This is I'm114301:16:23,580 --> 01:16:26,130still not sure what we're gonnado with all that information.114401:16:27,990 --> 01:16:30,450Other than, Oh, here's theamount of people that we have no114501:16:30,450 --> 01:16:31,590advertisers for.114601:16:32,520 --> 01:16:38,100Yeah, that's, I mean, that'sfun. Gene bein, again, 1337. He114701:16:38,100 --> 01:16:41,400says, For me, the hostingcompany lets me offload tasks I114801:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,940simply don't have time for andbandwidth to deal with114901:16:44,940 --> 01:16:47,400Sure. Absolutely. That's thewhole idea and they shouldn't be115001:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,190be edge you should be at feellike you're being educated. I115101:16:50,190 --> 01:16:54,870know they do about new things,new developments, ideas. I mean,115201:16:54,870 --> 01:16:57,840I think that's a big part of theappeal of all hosting companies.115301:16:58,470 --> 01:17:01,530They also provide some niceextras I did. I couldn't do115401:17:01,530 --> 01:17:03,900myself, but would take more timeand effort. That's115501:17:03,900 --> 01:17:06,930right. Yeah. That's the wholepoint that it's abstracting all115601:17:06,930 --> 01:17:10,890the yeses abstractingeverything. So don't be like me115701:17:10,890 --> 01:17:15,180where you mess stuff up becauseyou're using you know, you're115801:17:15,180 --> 01:17:18,240using stuff that is still beingbuilt as I'm you know, I'm115901:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,090driving the car while Stephen Bis still building it.116001:17:21,780 --> 01:17:27,600It's right. Get an egghead, sendus 8007 SAS SAS landed boot116101:17:27,600 --> 01:17:32,280donation, he says voodoo Grahamalways says a boot. That's a116201:17:32,280 --> 01:17:41,940boot donation Oh Buddha Graham,Buddha 1750 SAS from primitive,116301:17:42,150 --> 01:17:47,460primitive, primitive one. Oh,primitive. 117 50. Thank you116401:17:47,460 --> 01:17:51,300note 5552 from Satoshi stream.Thank116501:17:51,300 --> 01:17:56,370you. Oh, nice. Thank you. Thankyou, Mr. Gray.116601:17:58,170 --> 01:18:03,270Jean beans and is 13 370. Yourcast Madigan he says a guide for116701:18:03,270 --> 01:18:05,370helping listeners get startedwith taking advantage of116801:18:05,370 --> 01:18:08,970podcasting 2.0 features thatincludes how to get started with116901:18:08,970 --> 01:18:12,300value for value would beawesome. Along with that, a117001:18:12,300 --> 01:18:16,530summary of what features endusers can expect by using 2.0117101:18:16,530 --> 01:18:19,920apps instead of traditional oneswould also be nice, and I refer117201:18:19,920 --> 01:18:24,450you right back to the hostingcompanies. This is I mean, we117301:18:24,450 --> 01:18:28,920can sit here and explain it. Andwe do to a large extent. But117401:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,130what you want is you you want tounderstand how these things work117501:18:32,130 --> 01:18:34,650practically with someone whobuilt an interface and can117601:18:34,650 --> 01:18:38,400support you in learning it. Ican also tell you how to fly a117701:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,760helicopter right now. won't bethe same unless you're in a117801:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,920helicopter with an instructor ata flight school.117901:18:45,480 --> 01:18:48,300Yep, definitely hostingcompanies. Trent are the118001:18:48,300 --> 01:18:49,230translators here?118101:18:49,380 --> 01:18:52,320Yeah. You're paying for it.118201:18:53,340 --> 01:18:57,000We translate to them and theytranslate to the to the118301:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,050podcaster so118401:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,410it's all beautiful. In Oh,118501:19:01,830 --> 01:19:10,530whoa get Giga Giga Kapoor G G AG on a ma118601:19:11,220 --> 01:19:13,170g a g118701:19:13,979 --> 01:19:17,039k A he Yu Gi118801:19:18,900 --> 01:19:20,610Shi i118901:19:21,960 --> 01:19:27,930get good Giga cup Giga buchi orits age kappa G119001:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,410gauge cappucci will keep it Ilike gauge cappucci119101:19:31,859 --> 01:19:35,099gauge cappucci Send us 200,000SATs119201:19:35,130 --> 01:19:41,250follow 20 is Blaze on him BalaAll right. I don't care what119301:19:41,250 --> 01:19:42,060your name is.119401:19:42,870 --> 01:19:46,290And he says in his messages, myfirst ever boost119501:19:47,070 --> 01:19:57,240boosts exceeded. Mr. C. Thankyou. It's very kind of you.119601:19:57,780 --> 01:20:01,530Thank you, Gage. cappuccithrough fountain Oh Um, yeah,119701:20:01,560 --> 01:20:07,590sweet. I mean a nice entry ontothe dance floor 6969 from a119801:20:07,590 --> 01:20:12,420citizen through pod verse, itsays, For those boosting to the119901:20:12,420 --> 01:20:16,140getting divorce back on boardfund, it doesn't work. Doesn't120001:20:16,140 --> 01:20:17,370work boost boost.120101:20:17,580 --> 01:20:18,570It will never work.120201:20:19,020 --> 01:20:22,110You need to boost to the cutdivorce from the split fine.120301:20:22,830 --> 01:20:25,230There's no split split doesn'tgo to us.120401:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,890Yeah, there's no there's no hedoes not in a split. So mission120501:20:28,890 --> 01:20:29,610accomplished.120601:20:30,930 --> 01:20:34,260Now we both we split back toeverybody who helps out that's,120701:20:34,290 --> 01:20:38,820that's, that's the beauty of it.One day, one day, he'll wake up120801:20:39,060 --> 01:20:42,150and say, Wait a minute, how muchSatoshis are going to all these120901:20:42,150 --> 01:20:42,840other people?121001:20:44,430 --> 01:20:47,130It's like, I need to get in onthat action.121101:20:48,180 --> 01:20:55,080I'm serious. I'm dead serious.If it's serious money, like if121201:20:55,080 --> 01:21:00,330it's if it's something thatwould get his attention. He121301:21:00,330 --> 01:21:03,570would. He would be Hey, I'mgonna do something with this.121401:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,530Because I'm, I know I love him.I know him. I know. That's how121501:21:07,530 --> 01:21:10,110we operate. He'd be like, hey,wait a minute. What are we121601:21:10,110 --> 01:21:10,800missing here?121701:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,620Anyway, Bailey bones 7500 SATsthrough fountain he says121801:21:16,620 --> 01:21:18,750podcasting 2.0 is the nextbacon.121901:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,950Thank you. You go that that's abumper sticker.122001:21:23,460 --> 01:21:32,700It is a brown of London and hiveDao 49,817 SAS the V four V app,122101:21:33,030 --> 01:21:36,780also known as the Rube Goldbergmachine, he says what makes this122201:21:36,780 --> 01:21:40,200show special its listeners likeme not advertising. Isn't this122301:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,940sweet? Ah Bucha that's a that'sa call back to his Professor G122401:21:44,940 --> 01:21:46,050clip here.122501:21:46,290 --> 01:21:51,660I was thinking about about Brianbecause I was reading about by122601:21:51,660 --> 01:21:57,840Nance I think and by Nance gothacked $150 million in I think122701:21:57,840 --> 01:22:03,360it's apparently a lot of theseexchanges have their own kind of122801:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,860stable coin or other kind ofside blockchain that people can122901:22:07,890 --> 01:22:11,400move stuff in and out of andthey so it's literally a bridge123001:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,720to Bitcoin. So it's not youknow, you're not like selling it123101:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,480on the exchange. But it goes inbasically what Brian of London123201:22:18,480 --> 01:22:22,230does, it goes into SATs and itcomes out as hive. And even123301:22:22,230 --> 01:22:26,760those guys get hacked. You know,and that and that one sucked123401:22:26,790 --> 01:22:28,380because that one, that's a suckyone. So123501:22:28,380 --> 01:22:30,840I did the big one. They're a bigplayer. Yeah.123601:22:30,870 --> 01:22:34,440So I'm just I'm I'm alwaysthinking of you, Brian. Always123701:22:34,440 --> 01:22:35,070Thank you.123801:22:35,550 --> 01:22:40,050Lots of firewalls, brotherfirewalls. The tone wrecker123901:22:40,230 --> 01:22:44,100since 2052. Sets. He saysthrough fountain he says,124001:22:44,340 --> 01:22:47,490learning is accelerating anocean of knowledge being shared124101:22:47,490 --> 01:22:51,030by you both. Thank you someadditional updates. Nightcrawler124201:22:51,030 --> 01:22:55,170robotics is an independent 501 Cthree public charity. Our team124301:22:55,170 --> 01:22:58,530makes travel fees optional, soany students can experience the124401:22:58,530 --> 01:23:02,130fun of FIRST Robotics regardingregardless of their financial124501:23:02,130 --> 01:23:05,400position. Oh, this is referenceto last week's boost. Oh, yeah.124601:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,910With about the high schoolrobotics team. In this 2.0124701:23:08,910 --> 01:23:12,720space, we found how to add thelb wallet into our Nightcrawler124801:23:13,050 --> 01:23:18,4802052 podcasts at a ha time forbuilding this week. Let me hear124901:23:18,480 --> 01:23:22,740you. Oh, let me hear you. HollaNightcrawler Yes. A nerd podcast125001:23:22,740 --> 01:23:26,310you know, so that's that's thekind of school that needs to125101:23:26,310 --> 01:23:29,520look at the at the lightningsheep feeding machine. That's125201:23:29,940 --> 01:23:33,480exactly what I was just takingbiotics right that's robotics.125301:23:33,930 --> 01:23:37,800That's badass robotics and andyou make money to fund your you125401:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,420know, your your sock hop,125501:23:40,470 --> 01:23:45,390sock hop in your your multi yourmalted milk125601:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,120there are no Yes125701:23:48,570 --> 01:23:54,180or No get you you shouldn't youcan have like a webcam but two125801:23:54,180 --> 01:23:59,670robots. Do those like battlerobot things? No. And then if125901:23:59,670 --> 01:24:04,560you if you QR code on the right,left up, down and you can run126001:24:04,590 --> 01:24:08,490you can make the robot rollaround by sending like 10 cents126101:24:08,490 --> 01:24:10,320or the sad state whateverdirection126201:24:11,910 --> 01:24:15,960Yeah, I kind of liked the robotanimal interaction personally.126301:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,020Okay, something reallycompelling about that.126401:24:20,310 --> 01:24:25,920Or it can launch the robot canlaunch food. It can launch bait126501:24:25,920 --> 01:24:31,260out of it like it at a rapidrate. You know, blow a big thing126601:24:31,260 --> 01:24:31,860of food out.126701:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,800Now you're talking all rightnow. Now you're126801:24:35,700 --> 01:24:44,340way far away from the house.Okay, we got lyceum. He says126901:24:44,550 --> 01:24:48,960217 76 podcast, SATs and he saysAdam will you get the Twitter127001:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,530handle V for V underscore infoback when Elon Musk is taking127101:24:52,530 --> 01:24:58,020over? What kind of rules did youviolate Liberty, Liberty booster127201:24:58,020 --> 01:24:59,7601776 Satoshis127301:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,770Thank you. I've never ownedthat. And by the time Elon Musk127401:25:04,800 --> 01:25:09,150if the sale goes through, and hebuys it, I think I will have to127501:25:09,150 --> 01:25:10,440depart the platform.127601:25:11,519 --> 01:25:13,979You know, he's very real, if hewould really quit.127701:25:14,969 --> 01:25:17,399Well, I'm pretty sure thatthey're gonna want me to send127801:25:17,399 --> 01:25:22,229him my driver's license. Oh,that Yeah. I mean, definitely,127901:25:22,259 --> 01:25:27,689his whole idea is based onidentity. Verification, that's128001:25:27,749 --> 01:25:31,169that, how do you get rid ofBotswana? Or how do you deal128101:25:31,169 --> 01:25:34,709with all the bullcrap, like,Well, okay, say whatever you128201:25:34,709 --> 01:25:37,829want, but we know who you are.We have your, your, your details128301:25:37,829 --> 01:25:42,869on file. And if you saysomething slanderous, then we'll128401:25:42,869 --> 01:25:44,729be sure to make sure people canget a hold of you.128501:25:46,020 --> 01:25:50,340Yeah, so this this you know,Alex warned about this. A year128601:25:50,340 --> 01:25:56,730and a half ago with Jack andJack Dorsey with Jack Dorsey's128701:25:56,940 --> 01:26:00,120side project of Twitter, theTwitter128801:26:00,150 --> 01:26:04,290yes sky night something whateverit is, yeah, you know, Sky128901:26:04,290 --> 01:26:05,310things guys guy.129001:26:05,940 --> 01:26:09,030So you know, they were comingthey came up with this big129101:26:09,030 --> 01:26:12,270grandiose plan of they're goingto have this decentralized Yeah,129201:26:12,270 --> 01:26:15,000actually read that white paperand understood it. You're129301:26:15,570 --> 01:26:18,210telling me right, that crazy assthing about identity?129401:26:18,630 --> 01:26:23,250Yeah, and it was basically youknow, you're gonna have a single129501:26:23,250 --> 01:26:26,940digital identity across allthese platforms. So I'm like no,129601:26:27,390 --> 01:26:30,900no, I'm out okay, count me out.Yeah, I'm done. I don't I don't129701:26:30,900 --> 01:26:36,630want that No, I want I wantended I want individual accounts129801:26:36,630 --> 01:26:39,270on different platforms. I don'twant some single unifying129901:26:39,270 --> 01:26:43,050identity I'm not I'm not readyfor the entire market the beast130001:26:43,050 --> 01:26:44,730crap. Okay, count me out.130101:26:46,290 --> 01:26:47,670Let's move on with our boosts.130201:26:50,310 --> 01:26:55,140Lyceum 20 to 22 Dave, do youhave tips on electronic wallets130301:26:55,140 --> 01:26:58,860for non techie users I have usedblue wallet but I get error130401:26:58,860 --> 01:27:01,980messages now as I'm trying torefill my lightning wallet with130501:27:01,980 --> 01:27:04,980my bank card in order to buygifts in the stream bits of130601:27:04,980 --> 01:27:08,700Bitcoin it has to work in asimple and safe way similarly to130701:27:08,730 --> 01:27:13,350a Pay Pal or or swish that'smobile payment system in Sweden130801:27:13,350 --> 01:27:16,230transaction road dogs boosteasily130901:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,050I don't have an answer for thatoffhand.131001:27:22,710 --> 01:27:24,960I don't I've heard people havingproblems131101:27:25,979 --> 01:27:32,279tell you the wallet for Bitcoinor for lightning. My absolute131201:27:32,279 --> 01:27:38,519rock that has over $1,000 at alltimes and it is breeze131301:27:39,060 --> 01:27:40,890breeze this one I was gonna saywe talk131401:27:40,890 --> 01:27:46,050about it as a podcast app it isan incredibly mature well131501:27:46,080 --> 01:27:52,560structured well run well managedMS and and the most sovereignty131601:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,400you I think of anything I canimagine at the moment there's no131701:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,730I don't want to get intoarguments about that but I131801:27:59,760 --> 01:28:06,240always always always that's theone yeah, that's my working131901:28:06,240 --> 01:28:10,230wallet for all things payments.All the time for sure.132001:28:10,260 --> 01:28:13,530It is connected to moon pay andyou can definitely use that yeah132101:28:13,530 --> 01:28:14,580all over Europe and132201:28:14,790 --> 01:28:18,330yeah, yeah. There you go fixthat. They132301:28:18,359 --> 01:28:24,629go Lyceum to send a rush boost2112 Nice. He's still my beating132401:28:24,629 --> 01:28:27,869heart. He says I am on my way tothe podcast and 2.0 certified T132501:28:27,869 --> 01:28:33,689Shirt Day USD $50 to go aboutgetting DJ Steve boy yet on132601:28:33,689 --> 01:28:39,449board who's DJ Steve. Crewcreates a great a great creates132701:28:39,449 --> 01:28:42,989great music mixes have purchasedhis pod runner t shirt. I see132801:28:42,989 --> 01:28:45,839that his podcast groove electricand pod runner are hosted by132901:28:45,839 --> 01:28:49,829Lipson send an email to Stephento rob Greenlee. Of Lipson in133001:28:49,829 --> 01:28:53,849new media show and his newpodcast spoken live show. Yeah,133101:28:53,849 --> 01:28:58,319congrats to rob Greenlee.Listen, what's it called? Pod133201:28:58,319 --> 01:28:59,939runner and groove electric133301:29:00,029 --> 01:29:01,919pod runner. Okay.133401:29:03,630 --> 01:29:07,590Says spoken last just a rush2112 album boost of 2112133501:29:07,590 --> 01:29:08,910Satoshis go podcasting?133601:29:08,939 --> 01:29:10,529Yeah baby podcast133701:29:13,979 --> 01:29:17,159Macintosh 3333 through fountainnice it's five o'clock central133801:29:17,159 --> 01:29:20,039time not here yet. Can't waitmust have podcasting. 2.0 go133901:29:20,039 --> 01:29:20,669podcasting.134001:29:21,210 --> 01:29:23,940Go podcast. I know the feeling.134101:29:26,370 --> 01:29:33,030And we get the delimiter comicsor Blogger everybody 15 15,033134201:29:33,030 --> 01:29:38,580sets through fountain and hesays, howdy David Adam. People134301:29:38,580 --> 01:29:43,530who carry water for Putin willlose salvation. Anyways, please134401:29:43,530 --> 01:29:47,460visit AI cooking in web orpodcast browser to listen to TV134501:29:47,460 --> 01:29:52,380Show Developer Gregory WilliamForsythe Forman from Kid UK and134601:29:52,380 --> 01:29:55,170stay safe with L L Leon yo134701:29:58,739 --> 01:30:04,289and a final thanks to Silversilver oul are 12 which is one134801:30:04,289 --> 01:30:14,039of those stock names from Breeswho say 34567 sets I propose a134901:30:14,039 --> 01:30:21,329new tag named Bodhi MC tag tag.Backslash Bodi MC tag tag.135001:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,160This is not the troll room135101:30:23,940 --> 01:30:28,800for 330 4567 stats you can dothat. I'm good with that troll135201:30:28,800 --> 01:30:29,910away, troll away.135301:30:31,109 --> 01:30:32,009That's a troller gram135401:30:32,819 --> 01:30:33,659is a good one.135501:30:34,590 --> 01:30:36,930monthlies. Yeah, we got somemonthlies. We got Scott Jalbert135601:30:36,930 --> 01:30:42,870$12 Chad Pharoah $20.20 Thankyou, Chad. 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With this.There's no real entry exam.136801:31:27,930 --> 01:31:32,160Although I have thought aboutdoing one with the entry exam be136901:31:32,370 --> 01:31:35,400what color is the White House?Start we start there.137001:31:35,970 --> 01:31:37,440long did the 100 Years War last?137101:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,430Man, believe it or not? A lot ofpeople get those wrong.137201:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,910Yes, after seeing the man on thestreet stuff,137301:31:44,940 --> 01:31:48,330I would Yeah, go to podcastindex.org Scroll down the bottom137401:31:48,330 --> 01:31:51,270if you want to give us Fiat funcoupons or donate through a I137501:31:51,270 --> 01:31:54,840should check that again. Iforget to check all the time. Or137601:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,130if you want to send us some onchain coin, and137701:31:59,580 --> 01:32:01,530some beef coins and some beefcoin137801:32:01,619 --> 01:32:05,699and get yourself somethingmodern, a new podcast apps.com137901:32:05,729 --> 01:32:10,079You will not regret it. And nowwe have nothing. Nothing new.138001:32:10,289 --> 01:32:14,219Let me see. I have a messagefrom tally coin.138101:32:15,090 --> 01:32:17,790The message is like nobody'ssending you money. I'm sorry.138201:32:18,390 --> 01:32:18,990ahead for you.138301:32:19,859 --> 01:32:25,619This is 28th of September,anonymous sent 25,000 SATs but I138401:32:25,649 --> 01:32:31,289don't know if that was for us.Okay, well, don't send that as138501:32:31,289 --> 01:32:34,319anonymous and I can't thank youor send those anonymous I can't138601:32:34,319 --> 01:32:34,709thank you.138701:32:36,180 --> 01:32:39,780Um, speaking of speaking ofPutin, carrying water for Putin,138801:32:40,920 --> 01:32:49,350the this this article from theBrookings Institution, the woman138901:32:49,380 --> 01:32:57,480Valerie worshiper Schefter.She's back with more dashboards.139001:33:00,150 --> 01:33:02,490And, I mean, like,139101:33:02,790 --> 01:33:07,380oh, this This isn't easy. Ifigured it out. Go ahead. What139201:33:07,380 --> 01:33:09,870what what do you what is onthis?139301:33:10,229 --> 01:33:15,779Well, the vibe on this is thatshe's you know, at first I was139401:33:15,779 --> 01:33:20,729thinking spook spooky, but thenI was like, you know, this is139501:33:20,729 --> 01:33:25,589kind of what want to be spooky.Cuz the, what she says in here139601:33:25,589 --> 01:33:29,819is, while exactly who isresponsible for the attack, this139701:33:29,819 --> 01:33:33,089was just this. This article isabout the dissemination of139801:33:33,089 --> 01:33:37,529misinformation. The The title isus podcasters spread Kremlin139901:33:37,529 --> 01:33:43,589narratives on Nord Streamsabotage. In the first paragraph140001:33:44,519 --> 01:33:48,089says while exactly who isresponsible for the attack,140101:33:48,299 --> 01:33:51,809which European officials say wasa deliberate act of sabotage140201:33:51,989 --> 01:33:56,549remains unclear. Experts broadlyagree that Russia is the key140301:33:56,549 --> 01:34:02,399suspect in the experts broadlyagree. wording is a link to a140401:34:02,399 --> 01:34:06,689New York Times article experts.I linked to the New York Times,140501:34:07,079 --> 01:34:11,519read the entire article inNowhere in the news that is140601:34:11,519 --> 01:34:16,469absolutely 100% Now what thatarticle says, it says nothing of140701:34:16,469 --> 01:34:21,539the sort is a matter of fact, bythe end of the article, you're140801:34:21,539 --> 01:34:24,959convinced that nobody knows whodid this and the ones who do140901:34:24,959 --> 01:34:28,589think the ones who do think theyknow think it was us I mean this141001:34:28,619 --> 01:34:31,829this is this article starts outin the first paragraph with141101:34:31,829 --> 01:34:34,919misinformation by completelylying about what this article141201:34:34,919 --> 01:34:35,939this she linked to said.141301:34:36,450 --> 01:34:39,330I will explain to you what isgoing on here. It finally hit141401:34:39,330 --> 01:34:43,650me. And the way is when I wentinto their dashboard.141501:34:44,460 --> 01:34:46,230Oh, you got into you got in. Oh,yeah,141601:34:46,229 --> 01:34:51,449I looked at the dashboard. Okay.This, this lady who now has a141701:34:51,449 --> 01:34:56,609sidekick. She's a politicaloperative. And what she's doing141801:34:56,639 --> 01:35:03,239is because when it comes toperceived misinformation about141901:35:04,109 --> 01:35:08,759Putin, Ukraine pipeline, etcetera. I think the no agenda142001:35:08,759 --> 01:35:13,109show would rate very highly onthe list of, Wow, these guys are142101:35:13,109 --> 01:35:18,119nuts. They're carrying water forPutin. Yeah, now we are not in142201:35:18,119 --> 01:35:21,689their database. Now, I think weprobably have a big enough size142301:35:21,689 --> 01:35:25,649audience and enough people knowus that, that she might have142401:35:25,649 --> 01:35:30,179come across us as big disinfopeople. But that's not what this142501:35:30,179 --> 01:35:33,569is about. This is all thepodcasts that are listed. I142601:35:33,569 --> 01:35:37,979think there's 70 or 90 of thethings 70 or 79 or something142701:35:38,399 --> 01:35:41,609probably all Fox News peopleknow all of it is podcast142801:35:41,609 --> 01:35:52,199industrial complex. So it is Danbond, Gino, you know, stuff like142901:35:52,199 --> 01:35:58,679this, and you know Ben Shapiro,and then they'll have in pod143001:35:58,679 --> 01:36:05,999save America. So it's so obviousit is right left. And this is143101:36:05,999 --> 01:36:09,869intended for one thing and onelink one thing only to get the143201:36:09,869 --> 01:36:14,519platforms such as Apple andSpotify and Google and anyone143301:36:14,519 --> 01:36:20,639else they can get to throw thosepodcasts off. That is Brookings143401:36:20,639 --> 01:36:24,659Institution. This this is a thisis not this is a political move.143501:36:25,739 --> 01:36:28,199That's what this this wholething is about because you're143601:36:28,199 --> 01:36:32,279right. She's lying, because he'snot sincere. This is not about143701:36:32,879 --> 01:36:36,479any concern for the for thehorrible public who might be143801:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,759sigh opt by a podcast.143901:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,949This by spreading the idea thatthe United States was in fact144001:36:43,949 --> 01:36:47,609responsible for the explosions,several leading us podcasters144101:36:47,609 --> 01:36:50,789have advanced the Kremlin'spreferred narrative, while144201:36:50,789 --> 01:36:56,789staying under the radar radar ofresearchers until now. Like, I144301:36:56,789 --> 01:37:00,569mean, do me a break. me Give meGive me a break. I don't know.144401:37:00,959 --> 01:37:04,199The only reason that I careabout these explosions in this144501:37:04,199 --> 01:37:07,859pipeline is it's going to end upit's going to result in the harm144601:37:07,889 --> 01:37:12,209to people that I care about inEurope. That's not cool. I care144701:37:12,209 --> 01:37:17,549about that. But otherwise, thismisinformation stuff is like144801:37:17,609 --> 01:37:20,789we've talked about this beforemisinformation or in podcasts.144901:37:20,969 --> 01:37:24,089Because misinformation is inlife. There's all kinds of145001:37:24,089 --> 01:37:28,589misinformation maybe there'smisinformation. In the news at145101:37:28,589 --> 01:37:32,939the watercooler at the at youroffice at the dinner table, in145201:37:32,939 --> 01:37:38,369church, in science in research,hey, go to the retraction watch145301:37:38,369 --> 01:37:38,969blog.145401:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,320Oh my god, the retraction of allthe scientific papers that's a145501:37:43,350 --> 01:37:45,990another RSS feed. It's one of myfavorites.145601:37:46,260 --> 01:37:51,690It's multiple retracted, peerreview, peer reviewed and then145701:37:51,690 --> 01:37:52,830retracted later because145801:37:52,829 --> 01:37:55,349his grace has often in disgrace.Yes,145901:37:55,649 --> 01:38:00,509multiple a day. So I mean, justjust get and just tired of this146001:38:00,599 --> 01:38:01,739garbage day.146101:38:03,569 --> 01:38:05,999Ya know, it's time for theweekend, brother. It's time to146201:38:05,999 --> 01:38:07,079kick off the weekend.146301:38:07,890 --> 01:38:10,560Do you want to do anotherpodcast namespace thing?146401:38:11,220 --> 01:38:16,140Now we're 138 130 Yeah, what dowe have leftover?146501:38:17,820 --> 01:38:25,590Oh, I don't know say well, weget we get state and has guests146601:38:26,910 --> 01:38:30,270now seem to float. This doesn'tsound very146701:38:30,270 --> 01:38:34,890exciting. No, I shot my wad onevent. I mean, I gave an idea.146801:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,110We've got something new is it?Is it done yet? Have we146901:38:37,110 --> 01:38:40,500developed it yet? Can I Can Isee it yet in curio caster do I147001:38:40,500 --> 01:38:41,940do is this available to me?147101:38:43,140 --> 01:38:48,300This this is yes. This is a goodplace to stop I guess. So we'll147201:38:48,810 --> 01:38:54,390see. An open info sharingmethod. Yeah, no, I'm gonna stop147301:38:54,390 --> 01:38:54,750in here.147401:38:56,609 --> 01:38:59,279I think the problem was is wewent there. You know, we went147501:38:59,279 --> 01:39:03,089into the disinformation thingand, and I felt myself getting147601:39:03,089 --> 01:39:06,239off track too. And I was such ahigh because I want to see who147701:39:06,239 --> 01:39:09,209else is listening to thispodcast at the same time. I'm147801:39:09,209 --> 01:39:10,079listening to it.147901:39:10,350 --> 01:39:13,290And I just want that now. That'sall you can think about. Dude,148001:39:13,320 --> 01:39:13,530we148101:39:13,529 --> 01:39:16,289can be the tinder of podcasting.I'm telling you, this is148201:39:16,289 --> 01:39:20,039exciting. This is exciting. I'mtelling you dating in podcast148301:39:20,039 --> 01:39:21,989apps. It's all coming.148401:39:22,229 --> 01:39:25,109Hit the ISO hit it, bombshell.148501:39:29,610 --> 01:39:34,560Dave, I love you, man. Love youtoo, brother. we'll see148601:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,590everybody next week right hereon podcasting 2.0.148701:39:51,600 --> 01:39:56,160You have been listening topodcasting 2.0 Visit podcast148801:39:56,160 --> 01:40:03,510index.org For more informationThe shell