Episode 102: Down With OP3

100:00:00,690 --> 00:00:06,270Casting 2.0 for September16 2022, episode 102 We're down200:00:06,270 --> 00:00:11,160with OB three Hello everybody.Welcome once again to the board300:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,740meeting of podcasting. 2.0Everything that happened this400:00:13,740 --> 00:00:17,160week in podcasting 2.0 Of courseall that's going on with a500:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,000namespace value for value. Allthe groovy stuff happening in600:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,380podcasts index dot social. I'mAdam curry deep in the heart of700:00:25,380 --> 00:00:28,470Georgia and in Alabama. I'mwaving at him right now. He800:00:28,470 --> 00:00:31,410feels SO CLOSE say hello to myfriend on the other end. Mr.900:00:31,410 --> 00:00:32,850Dave Jones.1000:00:33,390 --> 00:00:35,430I can see Georgia from my house.1100:00:35,820 --> 00:00:39,510Is that the Yeah, there you go.Sarah the callback? Yeah, that's1200:00:39,510 --> 00:00:40,170a good one.1300:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,270It actually never happened likeso many of these things.1400:00:42,570 --> 00:00:46,530Well, you actually can seeRussia from Alaska just maybe1500:00:46,530 --> 00:00:49,620not from her house and she neversaid it. She never actually said1600:00:49,620 --> 00:00:52,860it was What's your face theactress on Saturday Night Live.1700:00:53,640 --> 00:00:59,850It was the thing where was thatthat that effect where you1800:00:59,850 --> 00:01:03,000remember Mandela Effect?Mandela? That's it, man.1900:01:03,300 --> 00:01:07,860Real man. Real man's real man.Yep.2000:01:07,860 --> 00:01:13,620And they're staying bears. SoI'm go ahead. You're in the2100:01:13,650 --> 00:01:15,510you're in the enemy territory.So2200:01:15,690 --> 00:01:19,800Oh, I see. Yes. from Alabama. Igotcha. Well, it feels like I'm2300:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,320not at all in enemy territory.Although it may sound a little2400:01:22,320 --> 00:01:26,220bit boomy. I'm in the kitchen ofa cabin here.2500:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,550I literally do do do do do I2600:01:29,550 --> 00:01:31,470have not heard banjos? Yeah, soI think we're2700:01:32,610 --> 00:01:35,250well you're you're in SouthGeorgia, not North Georgia. So2800:01:35,250 --> 00:01:36,090you're saying well this is2900:01:36,090 --> 00:01:40,080Bluffton, Georgia at White Oakpastures which is pretty famous3000:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,690if you're into beef andregenerative farming will Harris3100:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,870is the is the owner of this hasbeen in the family for since3200:01:48,900 --> 00:01:54,1201886. Or some crazy length oftime. And this is the Big Beef3300:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,620coin. Beef coin, the beef I needto write that one down.3400:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,800Okay, basically, coin I gottaread it before the day is out.3500:02:04,860 --> 00:02:08,430There will be an old coin waythat name somebody will also3600:02:08,460 --> 00:02:10,020launch a beat Bitcoinblockchain.3700:02:12,090 --> 00:02:16,380Let's do funny. Yeah, so it'snot beef coin is the beef3800:02:16,380 --> 00:02:20,460initiative. And it's prettydynamite. You know, maybe 1003900:02:20,460 --> 00:02:24,180People here but a lot ofranchers and Bitcoiners some4000:02:24,180 --> 00:02:28,260famous Bitcoiners even so I'mhere with thanks a slim. We're4100:02:28,260 --> 00:02:33,630shacking up in this in thiscabin. And oh, cozy. That's Q4200:02:33,630 --> 00:02:39,510banjo. And. And he's actuallyupstairs on the balcony doing a4300:02:39,510 --> 00:02:42,270podcast with Robert Breedlove.So it's like it's like this.4400:02:42,900 --> 00:02:46,140It's very odd. Very oddsituation.4500:02:46,620 --> 00:02:49,830Will there be bandwidth concernswith dueling podcasts?4600:02:49,890 --> 00:02:53,040We hope not so far. So good. Imean, it's it's actually pretty,4700:02:53,070 --> 00:02:57,540pretty decent here. And I flewin from San Antonio to Atlanta4800:02:57,540 --> 00:03:02,790drove down for about threehours. And now it has everything4900:03:02,790 --> 00:03:06,600I want to fund drive. You know,that was 185 that was a great5000:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,740drive. I mean, really? Yeah. Youput on the cruise control. I5100:03:10,740 --> 00:03:15,780mean, 65 on the speed limiteveryone's doing at his blast5200:03:15,780 --> 00:03:18,210and down as beautiful as it wasthe5300:03:18,210 --> 00:03:22,920one that goes all the way toOrlando from like Atlanta. I5400:03:22,920 --> 00:03:28,260don't know. That might be 85 but185 it was nobody there's just5500:03:28,260 --> 00:03:32,940nobody out there. Now he's I wasgoing to Jones in first muscle5600:03:34,710 --> 00:03:36,930speed down the street down thathighway.5700:03:40,500 --> 00:03:42,390Yeah, well, you I mean, you'reyou're doing the tour of the5800:03:42,390 --> 00:03:45,870South. I am you're trying tomate. You're trying to hit every5900:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,500every every point you've beenwhat Nashville just this year.6000:03:49,530 --> 00:03:52,770Nashville. Georgia, SouthGeorgia.6100:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,480Wait, did I go to Nashville?6200:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,880I thought you went to Nashvillefor meetup.6300:03:56,910 --> 00:04:02,610No, no, no. I got COVID And thenit was at the skating rink and6400:04:02,610 --> 00:04:08,160instead I dialed in, and Ispawned records like that. 70s6500:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,170Disco records. Dynamite oops,sorry about that. I'm gonna open6600:04:13,170 --> 00:04:17,490up the heli pads so we can hearwhen we get some live boosts. We6700:04:17,490 --> 00:04:23,700are live of course we're lit.Just noticed in pod verse that6800:04:23,700 --> 00:04:28,200when you hit the when you hitthe live notification, it pops6900:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,800up and it has the album art thealbum art that you specify for7000:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,950the live show. So this is a anopportunity. I'm very excited7100:04:34,950 --> 00:04:37,260about the next show. Now I wantto put some really cool in7200:04:37,260 --> 00:04:37,530there.7300:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,640Yeah, so the this has to be newbecause neither one of us7400:04:41,820 --> 00:04:46,830remember this happening beforethis this can't I don't think7500:04:46,830 --> 00:04:48,930I've ever seen the Albemarleshow up on the notification7600:04:48,930 --> 00:04:50,190unless I'm crazy.7700:04:50,760 --> 00:04:56,340Well, I'm digging it is reallyreally cool. And today we also7800:04:56,340 --> 00:04:59,730have the the opp7900:05:01,380 --> 00:05:02,580Oh, it is so8000:05:03,540 --> 00:05:06,840I don't remember what it standsfor. But I remember opp P.8100:05:07,590 --> 00:05:12,300It's the original podcast prefixparty.8200:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,080There you go.8300:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,290I don't know what they got. Ihave no idea what they don't8400:05:16,290 --> 00:05:17,910remember what it is either, butI love it.8500:05:18,570 --> 00:05:21,780So I think we should talk aboutthis real quick because I8600:05:21,780 --> 00:05:24,420immediately went, Okay, I don'tknow what it is either. I want8700:05:24,420 --> 00:05:29,040in I'll do it. I think Iunderstand it. And then Stephen8800:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,700B, immediately put thefunctionality into sovereign8900:05:32,700 --> 00:05:36,450feed. So all I had to do wascheck a box. And boom, every9000:05:36,450 --> 00:05:40,050single enclosure has the oppjuice.9100:05:40,650 --> 00:05:42,930Yeah, okay, so this Yeah, weneed to discuss every bit of9200:05:42,930 --> 00:05:46,350this. Steven B is the as thefastest fingers on the planet.9300:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,470To me, it was like two hoursstart to finish. Boom, done.9400:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,730It's our fan and it works. Imean, I love Steven B.9500:05:53,730 --> 00:05:58,020Sometimes, you know, he doesthat and it doesn't work. So I9600:05:58,020 --> 00:05:59,160love him. I love him for that.9700:06:00,150 --> 00:06:03,420As it is as it will. It's not aslam dunk still best.9800:06:03,479 --> 00:06:05,489I mean, hey, you run withscissors. Sometimes you get9900:06:05,489 --> 00:06:06,989scratched? Oh, yeah.10000:06:07,020 --> 00:06:10,410Yeah, sometimes you get one inthe jugular. It just depends on10100:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,280Oh, I just said it's picking upthe episode. So I'm actually10200:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,130going to put that into the intothe show notes.10300:06:17,670 --> 00:06:23,370And you opp the last stream too.So yeah, yeah, fully Good. Cool.10400:06:23,370 --> 00:06:29,580Is this where as opp that youcan possibly LP PP. O Opie? Now,10500:06:29,580 --> 00:06:29,760I'm10600:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,570not sure if the I don't know ifit works on the light. I don't10700:06:33,570 --> 00:06:37,650have that yet. I don't I don'tknow how this thing works. I10800:06:37,650 --> 00:06:38,070don't know what.10900:06:39,540 --> 00:06:45,810So the so I'm studying for theshow I was doing on Thursday11000:06:45,810 --> 00:06:52,800night, I'm studying for theshow. And then. And then John11100:06:52,860 --> 00:06:56,610Spurlock post this thing, whichblows up my entire show prep,11200:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,420because then I have to just go,you know, a Mobb Deep trying to11300:07:00,420 --> 00:07:04,470figure out what this thing isthat he just posted in in and11400:07:04,470 --> 00:07:07,920then when it when it hit me acouple of minutes into reading11500:07:07,920 --> 00:07:14,400what it was, I was like, This isbig. Okay, this is this is11600:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,990really big. Do you have any ideawhat we're what I mean, here the11700:07:18,990 --> 00:07:20,040idea at all? What this is?11800:07:20,070 --> 00:07:24,240Yes. What I think this is, is tobe able to, in an open source11900:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,760manner, see exactly how manypeople are downloading my12000:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,800enclosures. And give me allsorts of details like you'd get12100:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,900from a hosting company, exceptit's raw data. And does that12200:07:39,900 --> 00:07:40,350make sense?12300:07:41,610 --> 00:07:46,890Yes, this is this essentially,like, this is essentially like12400:07:46,890 --> 00:07:51,240pod track. are one of thoseservices. Yeah. Does it12500:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,010accomplishes. I'm not gonna saythe same goal because it can do12600:07:56,490 --> 00:08:01,590a lot more stuff. And his aim isdifferent. But it but it can do12700:08:01,590 --> 00:08:08,550the same thing in ED his base atits core. Yeah, meet us said12800:08:08,910 --> 00:08:10,710Spurlock maybe loosely plus notme too, but12900:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,670I'm losing sleep right nowtrying to understand how I can13000:08:14,700 --> 00:08:18,150use this to my advantage. Imean, I liked it. I just I'm not13100:08:18,150 --> 00:08:22,890quite sure what it does for me.Okay, so actually, I do. Sorry,13200:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,770I do know, and I just got reallyexcited. Okay, let's go.13300:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,170I knew he was buildingsomething. Because he went13400:08:28,170 --> 00:08:31,410silent. He went radio silent.Usually, usually, if a guy like13500:08:31,410 --> 00:08:35,250Alex or or Spurlock goes goes,they're either dead or they're13600:08:35,250 --> 00:08:35,550working13700:08:35,549 --> 00:08:37,679on something. Yeah, we're bothboth.13800:08:39,960 --> 00:08:46,110Hey, cloud. So Cloudflare iswhat he's using for this in the13900:08:46,110 --> 00:08:51,690sense it you, you put thisprefix on to your enclosure?14000:08:51,870 --> 00:08:58,590Yeah. And so the first so whatit ends up being is HTTP s colon14100:08:58,590 --> 00:09:03,720slash slash op three dot devslash, ie slash, and then the14200:09:03,720 --> 00:09:09,630full URL of your, of your ofyour enclosure. So that so that14300:09:09,630 --> 00:09:13,290it hits the OP three dot devserver first,14400:09:13,289 --> 00:09:16,649right? And then it registersbasically your user agent,14500:09:16,649 --> 00:09:17,489information,14600:09:18,179 --> 00:09:23,249user agent and anything and anyURL parameters. And anything14700:09:23,249 --> 00:09:26,159else that's in the header. Okay,so basically, it has that has14800:09:26,159 --> 00:09:29,849full access to everything that'sin the HTTP request. And14900:09:30,420 --> 00:09:32,970it's not tracking IP addressesor anything like that.15000:09:33,659 --> 00:09:41,189So that's where it gets funbecause it is track it. So what15100:09:41,189 --> 00:09:44,519it does is it you hit you hitthe OP three dot Dev, I'm gonna15200:09:44,519 --> 00:09:47,069say server in quotes, becauseit's not even really a server.15300:09:48,629 --> 00:09:52,619In the traditional sense, youhit mp3 dot Dev, it registers15400:09:52,619 --> 00:09:55,469the download records, all of theinformation that it wants and15500:09:55,469 --> 00:10:03,419trans trans, you know, magnifiesit into whatever and Then it15600:10:03,749 --> 00:10:06,779forwards you at three, it does a302 redirect to the final15700:10:06,779 --> 00:10:09,629destination so that you this orthat you get passed off to the15800:10:09,629 --> 00:10:10,289correct conclusion.15900:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,420Ah, okay, so I'm seeing heretime you UID hashed IP address,16000:10:15,450 --> 00:10:18,840ah hashed IP address hey nowcool,16100:10:19,110 --> 00:10:22,890right? No, that's hard. No IPs.16200:10:23,279 --> 00:10:27,119But this is unique. Of course,this this hashed IP address is a16300:10:27,119 --> 00:10:32,369unique IP address. Yep. Ofcourse, we don't know if it's a16400:10:32,369 --> 00:10:38,279NAT or if it's some, you know,some other type of hub thing.16500:10:38,609 --> 00:10:40,829You never really know what,what's behind it. But I guess16600:10:40,829 --> 00:10:42,959that I don't know what I'mtalking about16700:10:43,560 --> 00:10:48,870was told me to shut up. Now thesource notes a good point,16800:10:48,900 --> 00:10:52,200because these are this is whatthings like the AI based16900:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,920specifications, tried, one ofthe things that I tried to do is17000:10:56,670 --> 00:11:03,090look at source IP addresses andstill do some filtering, when it17100:11:03,090 --> 00:11:06,510comes to collecting stats fromthem so that you can say, Okay,17200:11:06,510 --> 00:11:12,840this IP address is corporate. Somost likely, there's like 15017300:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,680users behind this. Yeah,exactly. We need to treat this17400:11:16,680 --> 00:11:20,970differently from a residentialIP address, blah, blah, blah. So17500:11:20,970 --> 00:11:25,740there's an aspect of it, becauseso so that still exists. And17600:11:25,740 --> 00:11:31,140that still has to be dealt with.And, and he's going to say he is17700:11:31,140 --> 00:11:33,570open source. So that's the firstthing to know all of this is17800:11:33,570 --> 00:11:36,090open source. Anybody cancontribute and make these17900:11:36,090 --> 00:11:39,750changes and help him make thesechanges. So it's purely open18000:11:39,750 --> 00:11:45,030source, meaning it is alsoauditable. It can be audited,18100:11:45,030 --> 00:11:50,490and he said he's triggering thedeployments to Cloudflare from18200:11:50,490 --> 00:11:53,730GitHub, so that you know thatthe thing you're seeing on18300:11:53,730 --> 00:11:56,040GitHub is actually what the livecode. That's18400:11:56,789 --> 00:12:01,559cool. Cool. So it's really justa Cloudflare hack. So it's not18500:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,109really you said, it's not reallya server. I mean, we don't need18600:12:04,109 --> 00:12:06,839to go too deep into it. But it'sSee, this is the thing with18700:12:06,839 --> 00:12:09,929Spurlock, he walks around andhe's, you know, he has a little18800:12:09,959 --> 00:12:14,099you think he's a little goofy.And then he's, like, this guy is18900:12:14,129 --> 00:12:18,719a genius. I mean, I would loveby the way, you know what I19000:12:18,719 --> 00:12:22,979mean? He's just unassuming verynice. I mean, doo doo doo doo.19100:12:23,519 --> 00:12:28,109And, and then this holy crap.He's got some weed that he needs19200:12:28,109 --> 00:12:28,709to share19300:12:29,220 --> 00:12:34,530with. This was there's there arethere are geniuses within19400:12:34,530 --> 00:12:38,430podcasting? Oh, heck, yeah. Oh,my goodness. Yeah. Like legit19500:12:38,430 --> 00:12:41,790genius, real geniuses. Yeah. Andsomebody, you know, somebody19600:12:41,790 --> 00:12:45,900like Alex pops out with a podping, you know, with a pod ping19700:12:45,900 --> 00:12:49,380Docker that you can run onGoogle. And it's like, what the,19800:12:49,410 --> 00:12:54,600you know, it's like, this is oneof those things. So if you it's19900:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,920running running on Cloudflareworkers, which are sort of like20000:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,430Amazon lambda functions, meaningthat you can20100:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,050you can run JavaScript do a veryone function, only one very20200:13:07,050 --> 00:13:09,720small instance for Yeah, I got,yeah, one20300:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,190font, yes, one function and itspins up the runs the function20400:13:14,190 --> 00:13:17,550and then goes away. They'reephemeral effects, ephemeral20500:13:17,550 --> 00:13:21,630code that just runs valance onCloudflare is infrastructure20600:13:21,660 --> 00:13:26,310cool. On but it runs on theedge, meaning that it runs in20700:13:26,310 --> 00:13:30,510the local data centers wherewe're where it's triggered from.20800:13:30,539 --> 00:13:34,469Yes, I see that as an edge coloparameter that's passed off and20900:13:34,469 --> 00:13:37,199I see a lot of Dallas FortWorth, and I see a couple of21000:13:37,199 --> 00:13:37,829SUNY21100:13:38,700 --> 00:13:42,030Atlanta, there's like 200, andsomething novels21200:13:42,029 --> 00:13:44,069dop, listening Cridland go tobed.21300:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,539There's like 200, and something.Edge data centers for21400:13:51,539 --> 00:13:53,849Cloudflare. Because we'reglobal. And these things run21500:13:54,359 --> 00:13:58,979locally, so that you get bydefault, you get region you get21600:13:58,979 --> 00:14:03,929region coverage. So you can sayI've got this many listeners in21700:14:03,959 --> 00:14:07,079the Atlanta region21800:14:08,009 --> 00:14:11,159in Fort Worth, is there anexport to Excel option? Yes.21900:14:13,980 --> 00:14:14,940Know, yeah, no,22000:14:15,240 --> 00:14:20,430I love the JSON. But it'd benice to have an export to XML.22100:14:21,029 --> 00:14:25,289Yeah, that is coming down comingdown the pipe. So and then you22200:14:25,289 --> 00:14:28,919have he's also he's storing itin I forgot the name of it. It's22300:14:28,919 --> 00:14:32,759like there, it's not there. keyvalue store, durable objects as22400:14:32,759 --> 00:14:36,299it Cloudflare durable objects,which is a distributed database22500:14:36,329 --> 00:14:42,539across all the colos. So I mean,this thing is, is very22600:14:42,539 --> 00:14:46,169lightweight from an from a22700:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,760from marine resourcesstandpoint,22800:14:51,269 --> 00:14:55,409yeah, it's heavy on Cloudflaresystem, but they, but they have22900:14:55,409 --> 00:14:58,859the bandwidth to do it. And theymake it available so that it's23000:14:58,859 --> 00:15:01,649not cumbersome for you to run asan administrator.23100:15:02,220 --> 00:15:05,670Where do you think edge CoLo? YY Z is located?23200:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,620No, that's Toronto. Oh, you knowwhat? No that no.23300:15:11,310 --> 00:15:13,620Because you're the pod sage. Idon't have to question.23400:15:14,460 --> 00:15:17,760No, sir. Our, our, our guest, Ithink we have a guest in the23500:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,320lobby. Our guests can back me uptoday. That is the origin of the23600:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,820song. Why was he by rush?23700:15:24,450 --> 00:15:27,840Oh, do we want to bring ourguests in already? I mean, our23800:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,090guest doesn't know how to talk.I mean, he's not going to be a23900:15:30,090 --> 00:15:30,600dud.24000:15:31,140 --> 00:15:37,680No. Yeah, I would it can we sendCan we send Travis out there to24100:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,280get our guests24200:15:39,509 --> 00:15:42,179on a second? Let me see if I canping Travis.24300:15:44,850 --> 00:15:53,010Okay. Do you like how I used aused a male reference name to24400:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,600for the assistant instead of24500:15:57,899 --> 00:16:02,969open the door Travis. Ladies andgentlemen, please welcome to the24600:16:02,969 --> 00:16:08,579official board meeting ofpodcasting. 2.0 The man who you24700:16:08,579 --> 00:16:12,809thought you knew from hispodcast, but it turns out, he24800:16:12,809 --> 00:16:16,979has a Wikipedia page. This guyis unbelievable. And of course24900:16:16,979 --> 00:16:20,009the host of the intergalacticboombox, please say hello to25000:16:20,009 --> 00:16:26,099Kyle ybert Hey, hey. Oh, therehe is.25100:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,120How's it going, Kyle? Hey, it's25200:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,950going great. How are you guys?25300:16:32,190 --> 00:16:34,500Yeah, we're good. We're doinggood. I'm amazed that this is25400:16:34,500 --> 00:16:38,280working at all having having allthese different, different25500:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,900streams coming in at the sametime.25600:16:40,590 --> 00:16:41,400Oh, yes.25700:16:41,850 --> 00:16:46,410Yeah, firstly, in feed. They doso we do use clean feed as part25800:16:46,410 --> 00:16:47,340of your professional work.25900:16:48,149 --> 00:16:53,579Actually, I don't sometimes I'veused different things like Zen26000:16:53,579 --> 00:16:57,389caster and things for likepodcast interview type stuff,26100:16:57,389 --> 00:17:01,979but for myself, I'm all 100%Post produce, so it's me. Yeah.26200:17:01,979 --> 00:17:03,089And Adobe Audition.26300:17:04,410 --> 00:17:06,270And you're aware in Burbank?26400:17:06,809 --> 00:17:09,449Yeah. Burbank, California,everybody now26500:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,260How long have you been up?There? I am. Sally, because I26600:17:13,260 --> 00:17:16,140live I live there I live rightnear Burb? I live in the hills26700:17:16,140 --> 00:17:17,310overlooking Burbank.26800:17:17,970 --> 00:17:21,570Oh, nice. Yeah, like at the topof the hill is that that radio26900:17:21,570 --> 00:17:23,610tower and on the other side isthe Hollywood sign.27000:17:24,869 --> 00:17:27,059You've got it all man. You'vegot the dream. You live in the27100:17:27,059 --> 00:17:29,219dream. How many homeless tentsare there?27200:17:31,349 --> 00:17:35,429It keeps growing every year.It's amazing. I'm telling I27300:17:35,429 --> 00:17:39,209moved out. I moved out here in2005 from Dallas. So basically,27400:17:39,209 --> 00:17:42,209I'm a Texan even though I'm fromLouisiana, Lake Charles with a27500:17:42,209 --> 00:17:46,469bear is a common name like Smithor Jones, though. Sorry, Dave.27600:17:46,469 --> 00:17:48,479Yeah, you gotta you gotta comein last name.27700:17:48,810 --> 00:17:53,310I do. Yeah. Yeah. When I toldwhen my wife we met. We met in27800:17:53,310 --> 00:17:59,460Moscow and came home and shesaid, and she said, Mom, I told27900:17:59,460 --> 00:18:02,880her mom, she's like, Mom, I meta guy in and her mom was like,28000:18:02,910 --> 00:18:06,180Oh my God. And you know, like,she met a Russian. She's like,28100:18:06,180 --> 00:18:09,630No, no. She was like, no, no,no, he's from he's from here.28200:18:09,630 --> 00:18:12,150His name is Dave Jones. Andshe's like, tell me the truth.28300:18:13,050 --> 00:18:14,010His name is Igor. It's28400:18:15,329 --> 00:18:20,639such a generic name you know? SoI've been told that the way you28500:18:20,639 --> 00:18:23,879properly address Hollywoodpeople is to say Kyla, love your28600:18:23,879 --> 00:18:24,359work28700:18:26,579 --> 00:18:29,579you have to add a man to the endthere it's got to be more love28800:18:29,579 --> 00:18:34,469your work man. Really love it.They still say that? They still28900:18:34,469 --> 00:18:35,249say it that way29000:18:35,310 --> 00:18:39,630they do i i make more of aliving going to conventions than29100:18:39,630 --> 00:18:42,690I do for actually recording vobut yeah, there's a lot of29200:18:42,690 --> 00:18:47,040people that will say you're thevoice of my childhood. Because I29300:18:47,040 --> 00:18:52,140started back in 2000 with thislittle independent anime show or29400:18:52,140 --> 00:18:57,780a little tiny called Dragon BallZ. And it's it's it's fandom is29500:18:57,780 --> 00:19:01,530stronger than ever because themovie this summer Dragon Ball29600:19:01,530 --> 00:19:04,710Super superhero was number one Iweek it29700:19:04,710 --> 00:19:07,380was released. Congratulations. Igot a lot of questions. I have a29800:19:07,380 --> 00:19:09,900lot of questions about yourcareer if you don't if you will29900:19:09,900 --> 00:19:12,180indulge I know it's a little bitoutside the boardroom we'd like30000:19:12,180 --> 00:19:16,860to know our board members andsee it as you know depending on30100:19:16,860 --> 00:19:25,530your answers possible increasein benefits so you so you're I30200:19:25,530 --> 00:19:28,830mean, and I put a link to yourwiki pedia because people got to30300:19:28,830 --> 00:19:35,730see this. Your filmography is anyou know, that includes anime30400:19:35,730 --> 00:19:40,680live action series, animation,film, video games. It's30500:19:40,710 --> 00:19:46,200unbelievable. And I've and I'vetried, here we go. I have tried30600:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,940for four years to break intovoiceover work. You clearly30700:19:50,940 --> 00:19:54,990figure it out. And it has to beit has to be for the voice as30800:19:54,990 --> 00:19:58,050you can do because I mean,that's you have so many30900:19:58,050 --> 00:20:02,550different I mean not just Voicessounds you can make. This is31000:20:02,550 --> 00:20:04,230this. Yeah, you've been doingall your life.31100:20:04,650 --> 00:20:08,190I have. And ever since I was akid watching Looney Tunes and my31200:20:08,190 --> 00:20:12,120dad telling me about Mel Blanc,it's like, oh god job I want to31300:20:12,120 --> 00:20:14,790do that. So growing up in the70s, I'm taking a little31400:20:14,790 --> 00:20:17,580cassette recorder I'm doing youknow, silly voices, fake31500:20:17,580 --> 00:20:20,970commercials playing DJ with theturntable playing kiss records31600:20:20,970 --> 00:20:24,210and all that. So I was alwaysfascinated by theater, the mind31700:20:24,210 --> 00:20:28,110stuff where I could entertain,and entertain without being seen31800:20:28,110 --> 00:20:30,150because I was really shy andreally introverted and31900:20:30,150 --> 00:20:35,460everything. So I turned, youknow, the shy kid who just keeps32000:20:35,460 --> 00:20:39,360to himself and grown up duringthe high school years being all32100:20:39,360 --> 00:20:44,100about metal and Iron Maiden,Judas Priest. Yeah. All that32200:20:44,100 --> 00:20:45,750good stuff. Yeah. How32300:20:45,750 --> 00:20:50,010old are you Kyle? I'm 53 Okay,so we're in kind of in the same32400:20:50,010 --> 00:20:52,890vein, right? Because I have asimilar story from started home,32500:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,860you know, with with a taperecorder very interesting. So32600:20:55,860 --> 00:20:57,960Dragonball Z, that was yourbreakthrough.32700:20:58,530 --> 00:21:01,170That was the breakthrough interms of voiceover. I was a DJ32800:21:01,170 --> 00:21:07,140first on radio, Disney. And Iwas already on this.32900:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,600So you got the programming. Igot33000:21:09,599 --> 00:21:14,699the programming. University ofNorth Texas I got a bachelor of33100:21:14,699 --> 00:21:18,149arts and Radio TV film thatturned into a internship with33200:21:18,719 --> 00:21:22,079ABC Radio Networks and was goingup and down the hall over on33300:21:22,079 --> 00:21:26,339various formats from top 40 toclassic country to heavy metal33400:21:26,339 --> 00:21:27,389to kids radio. Oh,33500:21:27,390 --> 00:21:34,230dude. Finally, I meet another DJwho made it out. doesn't happen33600:21:34,230 --> 00:21:38,010often. Usually they die with a Uhaul attached to the truck.33700:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,510Oh, they do. But the great thingabout satellite radio is, you33800:21:42,510 --> 00:21:46,080know, it was it was it wasstable. I mean, yeah, the local33900:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,440level. We're sending syndicatednational feeds. This is years34000:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,300before Sirius XM. And it's aimedat small and mid sized marvels,34100:21:54,300 --> 00:21:54,780dude,34200:21:54,840 --> 00:22:01,320I'm telling you. I mean, I usedto send out CDs every week for34300:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,040my top 30 hit list. And beforethat, of course, it was records.34400:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,460And there's always some dude whowants to be a DJ who have to get34500:22:08,460 --> 00:22:11,970up at three in the morning on onSunday to go into the station34600:22:11,970 --> 00:22:15,420and then put my show on. Andthat was our Cintiq. And it34700:22:15,420 --> 00:22:17,700works. You know, it'sdistributed throughout the whole34800:22:17,700 --> 00:22:18,240country.34900:22:18,930 --> 00:22:22,260That's right. And you, you know,on the local level, you'd be35000:22:22,260 --> 00:22:25,230like, You got to have your FCClicense and you mow the lawn,35100:22:25,230 --> 00:22:30,210and you're the program directorslash, you know, Mark, to juggle35200:22:30,210 --> 00:22:33,930everything. Back in the dayswhen mom and pop operations were35300:22:33,930 --> 00:22:34,470a thing.35400:22:35,099 --> 00:22:39,359Good times. Yeah, good timeswhen when radio was still radio.35500:22:39,359 --> 00:22:45,899And with podcasting, we've we'veapproached the same kind of need35600:22:45,899 --> 00:22:50,219from a different angle somehow.Maybe it's modernized. Now the35700:22:50,219 --> 00:22:53,039radio is so much the car I thinkin general.35800:22:54,569 --> 00:22:59,909Yeah, yeah. Oh, when? When youbasically kind of reinvented35900:22:59,909 --> 00:23:04,319radio for the internet. So whenpodcasting dropped, it was like,36000:23:04,319 --> 00:23:07,799Hey, this is radio for everybodywith an internet connection36100:23:07,799 --> 00:23:11,399around the world instantdistribution for free. You know,36200:23:11,399 --> 00:23:11,939none of this36300:23:11,970 --> 00:23:14,970and no money. FCC lies and noone no money. It's just like36400:23:14,970 --> 00:23:17,610real radio. Yeah, exactly.36500:23:17,819 --> 00:23:20,219Exactly. Monetizing. What's thatpage?36600:23:22,500 --> 00:23:27,000One more question about this.How do royalties work with video36700:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,630games?36800:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,800There are no royalties. We callit residuals. There are no36900:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,870residuals with anime or video.37000:23:34,140 --> 00:23:35,520I'm sorry. Yeah, residual. Yeah.Oh,37100:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,870no, no worries, let's37200:23:36,870 --> 00:23:38,700buy out and shut up. And that'sit.37300:23:39,180 --> 00:23:41,850That's basically it's like,here's this really obscene ly37400:23:41,850 --> 00:23:44,640low fee. Now actually animes,the obscenely low fee, you can37500:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,030get as low as, you know, 50bucks an hour, and you're done37600:23:48,030 --> 00:23:50,760recording in a couple of hoursunless you have a recurring37700:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,200role. And even then you can'treally pay rent on that. So the37800:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,950people that are making a livingwith anime usually are going37900:23:58,950 --> 00:24:02,430around the country or the worldsometimes at these conventions,38000:24:02,460 --> 00:24:06,690you know, selling autographs andphoto ops and they're able to38100:24:06,930 --> 00:24:10,740monetize that way. So I callconventions, the residuals for38200:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,240anime and video games. And so38300:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,330now, are you allowed to use thebrand name in your appearances?38400:24:19,500 --> 00:24:22,890Ah, yeah, don't ask Nortel andone of those tricky things.38500:24:22,890 --> 00:24:25,590Yeah. One of those trickythings. Man arts.38600:24:25,739 --> 00:24:27,809Yeah, right. It's a gray area.38700:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,870I bet there's dynamite groupiesat those conventions.38800:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,750I'm happily married, but38900:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,470I'm very happily married. We canstill talk about dynamite39000:24:37,470 --> 00:24:38,520groupies. Come on Kyle.39100:24:41,910 --> 00:24:43,980They're all there. But the thingis, yeah,39200:24:44,099 --> 00:24:47,129the real group is pulling eyesfor the female characters. Those39300:24:47,129 --> 00:24:47,969are the groupies.39400:24:48,270 --> 00:24:51,480That's true. That's true. Andback in the day, you know,39500:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,930conventions Comic Cons, comicconventions, anime conventions,39600:24:54,930 --> 00:24:59,070was almost all dudes. Yeah. Andthen in the 90s and 2000s. It39700:24:59,070 --> 00:25:04,590started becoming appealing toyounger ladies. And I like to39800:25:04,590 --> 00:25:07,890say that was just because thesedudes that scored hot chicks39900:25:08,010 --> 00:25:10,650ended up just dragging themkicking and screaming to the40000:25:12,210 --> 00:25:13,410bed what you're doing thisweekend.40100:25:13,890 --> 00:25:15,420I got a, I got a fun idea.40200:25:16,470 --> 00:25:19,770Yeah, you're dressed up as this,like who's this and like, trust40300:25:19,770 --> 00:25:22,560me, you'll get it. You'll getattention for it. And then40400:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,140suddenly they liked it, youknow, way before selfies in40500:25:25,140 --> 00:25:27,720social media. It's like, oh, youwalk two feet. People want to40600:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,760take your picture, walk anothertwo feet. People take your40700:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560picture. You don't get anythingdone. But yeah,40800:25:31,740 --> 00:25:35,040so it's so you do intergalacticboombox, you showed up pretty40900:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,630early and really with a with agreat podcast for the mission.41000:25:40,290 --> 00:25:42,840First of all, you're supertalented. It's 10 minutes. So41100:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,710you just want to listen to itevery single time. And you're41200:25:46,710 --> 00:25:52,710using all the 2.0 features. Howdid you? I'm sure this was41300:25:52,710 --> 00:25:55,140obviously not your firstpodcasting foray.41400:25:57,000 --> 00:26:07,470Um, the that's I say, right,right. Dopo keep that on the41500:26:07,470 --> 00:26:12,600agenda the other day? Oh, God, Iforgot the question. All right.41600:26:13,710 --> 00:26:16,980Yeah. Is this your firstquestion is, is this your first41700:26:16,980 --> 00:26:18,990podcast? And the comment issurely not.41800:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,510No, no, back in 2005 or six. Igot so excited because I was41900:26:24,510 --> 00:26:27,870listening to Adam on dailysource code and learning about42000:26:27,870 --> 00:26:31,350podcasting and everything. So Some and my buddy started the big42100:26:31,350 --> 00:26:34,290ball broadcast, which was geekNews Central, we just go back42200:26:34,290 --> 00:26:37,500and forth talking about geeknews, because geek podcast are,42300:26:37,710 --> 00:26:40,470you know, a dime a dozen. And soit didn't, it wasn't really42400:26:40,470 --> 00:26:43,320successful. But you know, welearned quickly that you don't42500:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,420get into podcasting to makemoney, you do it because it's42600:26:45,420 --> 00:26:49,200fun. And, you know, if you canbuild an audience, that's,42700:26:49,230 --> 00:26:53,220that's icing on the cake. So Idid that for a few years. And42800:26:53,220 --> 00:26:55,680then you know, just likeanything else, you get a little42900:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,680tired of it, you step away, andthen step back in, but God as43000:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,820soon as you guys startedpodcasting, 2.0 the podcast, I43100:27:02,820 --> 00:27:05,550was glued, I was listening. It'slike this tech, I don't43200:27:05,550 --> 00:27:08,520understand that at all. But Ireally want to be a part of43300:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,850this. So I would listen and doresearch about Bitcoin and the43400:27:11,850 --> 00:27:15,180Lightning Network. And itstarted to click like, almost a43500:27:15,180 --> 00:27:18,330year later, but it's like, thisis a reason this is gonna light43600:27:18,330 --> 00:27:21,960the fire to make me want to comeback to podcasting. I want to be43700:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,200able to do something. I'm avoiceover actor. That's what I43800:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,000do video games, anime, and we dolive action Dubs and feature43900:27:30,360 --> 00:27:33,360films and all that we come inand we're anonymous, basically,44000:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,000you know, we're not the celebswe just come in, and maybe you44100:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,060might see a quick, you know,additional voices credit. If44200:27:39,060 --> 00:27:40,710you're lucky. You have to pauseit44300:27:40,709 --> 00:27:44,789these days. What bastards? Ilike watching credits because I44400:27:44,789 --> 00:27:49,769know some people in in thebusiness. And it's also I mean,44500:27:49,769 --> 00:27:52,169if you watch it on TV, theythrow it in the corner, or they44600:27:52,169 --> 00:27:55,289roll it at 20 speed. It's reallyrude.44700:27:55,980 --> 00:27:58,920Yeah, and then the screenminimizes and it's like, it's44800:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,290getting ready to go to the nextepisodes. like wait, I want to44900:28:01,290 --> 00:28:04,140see I know people don't countyou don't count.45000:28:04,409 --> 00:28:08,429They don't count. That's mydaughter too much waiver. Oh, we45100:28:08,429 --> 00:28:11,729went to see Dragon Ball Superthe other day. Great. You did45200:28:11,729 --> 00:28:16,379awesome. Man, you Yeah, we lovedit. And so we were looking at45300:28:16,379 --> 00:28:21,359were we waited, watching thecredits. And it was all the all45400:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,629the Japanese names, just all itjust just showing up for the45500:28:24,629 --> 00:28:28,919entire credits. And then there'slike it ended. And then there45600:28:28,919 --> 00:28:33,779was one still shot of all theAmerican voice actors. Yeah,45700:28:33,779 --> 00:28:38,189that's all. Oh, well. One shotor at the end.45800:28:38,430 --> 00:28:41,370Okay. It was actually insertedin other countries that don't45900:28:41,370 --> 00:28:42,120even bother46000:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,660us like they throw up a JPEG ofthe American people, you know,46100:28:46,260 --> 00:28:47,670do this standard.46200:28:47,970 --> 00:28:53,670Yeah, yeah. Sadly, like dub castfor for taking American shows46300:28:53,670 --> 00:28:57,120and WM into French or Spanish orwhatever. Those guys get46400:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,510credits. But for some reason theAmerican cast is kind of tossed46500:29:00,510 --> 00:29:02,340to the side. They're anafterthought. Now I get it with46600:29:02,340 --> 00:29:05,430Dragonball Z and anime stuff,because that's primarily46700:29:05,430 --> 00:29:09,540produced in Japan. And we'rejust doing an English version46800:29:09,540 --> 00:29:12,510for people who speak English anddon't want to read subtitles. So46900:29:12,630 --> 00:29:18,030I understand. But yeah, it wouldhave been nice to be like one47000:29:18,060 --> 00:29:21,480one singular credit roll witheverybody, you know, because47100:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,660there's so many 1000s of peoplethat work on these projects. And47200:29:25,110 --> 00:29:27,150at least Marvel got it right.They'll get people to sit47300:29:27,150 --> 00:29:30,270through credits to watch youknow, posting. Yeah, I47400:29:30,270 --> 00:29:31,770agree. That is a gooddevelopment.47500:29:32,820 --> 00:29:35,550Like, don't leave you're gonnamiss out now. But47600:29:35,550 --> 00:29:39,090you were building your own feed,I guess because you were so47700:29:39,090 --> 00:29:42,240early. There were no podcasthosts that could do a feed with47800:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,080all the features.47900:29:43,410 --> 00:29:47,370Yeah, I trusted my friend tokind of look up how to do an RSS48000:29:47,370 --> 00:29:50,400thing. And we hooked in throughiTunes, of course, and I don't48100:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,030think there were very many otheroutlets back in the day. And we48200:29:54,030 --> 00:29:57,960used archive.org to host thefiles and you know, it never48300:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,450became an issue because hardlyanyone was Sit48400:30:02,129 --> 00:30:06,209and have I don't know about forintergalactic boombox.48500:30:06,659 --> 00:30:11,069I have since learned somethings. Oh, here we are I I48600:30:11,069 --> 00:30:14,009heard about you guys talkingabout different hosting services48700:30:14,009 --> 00:30:19,229and I ended up being with BuzzBuzzsprout I really liked what48800:30:19,229 --> 00:30:21,929they're doing. I listen to buzzcast and all that and I liked48900:30:21,929 --> 00:30:24,899that they've integrated theimages and chapters feature49000:30:24,899 --> 00:30:28,829which makes it very easy for meto to upload that stuff. I just49100:30:28,889 --> 00:30:31,949type in the info and there'sprobably easier ways to do that.49200:30:31,949 --> 00:30:34,799But I'm not a programming guy.So I don't know how to do all49300:30:34,799 --> 00:30:40,229the all the fancy stuff and helipad and all that in hosting your49400:30:40,229 --> 00:30:45,689own node that's above mypaygrade so I did I hooked into49500:30:45,689 --> 00:30:47,249the telegram with the49600:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,540Satoshi stream.49700:30:48,900 --> 00:30:52,680Yes Satoshi stream first Yeah,and then got in with Oscar and49800:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,620then with fountain it's like wecan host your feed like Oh, okay49900:30:59,010 --> 00:31:00,270I see what's going on here.50000:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,599Excellent. Yeah, that a cast of50100:31:05,130 --> 00:31:07,020Whoa, lo50200:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,050she got he admitted fountain.50300:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,290Eggs. No, of course. No, I loveall of our apps. You know, I50400:31:16,290 --> 00:31:19,560love helping people onboardthrough fountain but I also love50500:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,790to date someone said, Hey, man,I really love fountain but I50600:31:23,790 --> 00:31:28,050can't I got visually impaired Ican't see shit. And I love being50700:31:28,050 --> 00:31:30,480able to say Oh, check out podverse. Mitch has actually done a50800:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,050lot of accessibility stuff. Imean, I love all these options.50900:31:34,050 --> 00:31:35,340That's what makes it so cool.51000:31:35,730 --> 00:31:39,840Yeah, and I plug new podcastapps.com Like, like a crazy. No,51100:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,420you do. You do.51200:31:42,690 --> 00:31:45,840Now? Have you ever monetizedbefore with your podcast? I love51300:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,850the word. Have you evermonetized? Kyle?51400:31:47,910 --> 00:31:52,080I love monetize everybody. No,no, that was that was back in51500:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,780the day when it's like, here'sher Pay Pal email. And it's51600:31:54,780 --> 00:31:59,220like, crickets for years. That'slike, okay, yeah. But I admitted51700:31:59,220 --> 00:32:02,370myself, I was a fan of all thesepodcasts. And I didn't donate to51800:32:02,370 --> 00:32:05,820anyone. So it's like, how do youhow do you do this? How do you51900:32:05,820 --> 00:32:09,300try to. And then came theconcept which you guys, of52000:32:09,300 --> 00:32:12,780course, invented with value forvalue. And that concept kind of52100:32:12,780 --> 00:32:16,410started sweeping and hearingabout it more elaborated on with52200:32:16,410 --> 00:32:19,440your various guests of all thesewonderful apps different for52300:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,260different read great fordifferent reasons about value52400:32:22,260 --> 00:32:25,350for value, and how you're tryingto get your audience on board52500:32:25,350 --> 00:32:28,650with this great concept ofhearing. If you like the52600:32:28,650 --> 00:32:31,770content, what do you think it'sworth? And yeah, Apple and52700:32:31,770 --> 00:32:33,900Spotify in them. They're notpaying attention to that. And52800:32:33,900 --> 00:32:36,870it's like, okay, but look atthese developers. They're doing52900:32:36,930 --> 00:32:41,040perfectly functional apps thatdo things that the big guys53000:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,580aren't doing. So it's likepulling teeth though, getting53100:32:44,580 --> 00:32:47,580people to try new apps much lesstry new podcast, but53200:32:47,609 --> 00:32:50,609oh, yeah, no, it takes forever.In fact, with Korean the keeper.53300:32:50,639 --> 00:32:54,389I mean, we're at the these, thisis a group of people who listen53400:32:54,389 --> 00:32:59,219to that show. They don't use anapp. They Oh, yeah, they just,53500:32:59,219 --> 00:33:01,649oh, just give me a link anddon't just click it and then53600:33:01,649 --> 00:33:06,689just place and, and so I've beenarduously have been onboarding53700:33:06,689 --> 00:33:11,219them. And you know, it happensoften that Tina will get a text53800:33:11,219 --> 00:33:15,179at 10 at night like okay, howcome I can't send Satoshis from53900:33:15,179 --> 00:33:19,619the strike from the strikewallet into the pod verse is54000:33:19,799 --> 00:33:24,329it's hard but that was the same20 years ago with podcasting 1.054100:33:24,659 --> 00:33:28,349And we had to literally walkpeople through how to Subscribe54200:33:28,349 --> 00:33:31,529to How To Find The feed whichinvolved a website54300:33:32,460 --> 00:33:35,910Yeah, and and now is the uphillbattle of trying to convince54400:33:35,910 --> 00:33:38,130people you don't have toconvince them the value for54500:33:38,130 --> 00:33:40,620values a difficult thing tounderstand but trying to54600:33:40,620 --> 00:33:44,820understand Bitcoin that took meyears to Yeah, and unfortunately54700:33:44,820 --> 00:33:48,420the the fandom that I speak toon social media platforms,54800:33:48,420 --> 00:33:51,840they're all very anti Bitcoin.It's like, oh, it's a scam. Rip54900:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360off this like, oh, yeah,they're, they're not into it at55000:33:54,360 --> 00:33:54,600all55100:33:54,599 --> 00:33:56,729over there into NF T's.55200:33:57,780 --> 00:34:00,240No, they're very anti, as well.55300:34:00,269 --> 00:34:03,719Really? That's funny, I wouldhave thought that the you know,55400:34:03,719 --> 00:34:07,499that the enemy crowds, you know,who would have thought that55500:34:07,499 --> 00:34:12,239those was made for nfo? Yeah,that seems like a natural fit55600:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,079for some reason.55700:34:13,380 --> 00:34:16,230Yeah, some of my colleagues havetried to do in that and they got55800:34:16,230 --> 00:34:20,190so much hate that they instantlypulled out of NFT projects.55900:34:20,220 --> 00:34:20,700Well,56000:34:21,030 --> 00:34:24,390I think I think it's probablythe nature of people who are56100:34:24,390 --> 00:34:29,340really into anime and this typeof stuff. This genre and yeah,56200:34:29,340 --> 00:34:34,560and I think for them Bitcoin hasjust been branded as toxic toxic56300:34:34,560 --> 00:34:40,710bros, you know, they they theymake crypto kitties. Yeah. Kind56400:34:40,710 --> 00:34:43,680of like that. That's a feat.Does that does that ring ring56500:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,400true at all?56600:34:44,849 --> 00:34:48,269Yeah, like there's a vision of20 something 30 Something56700:34:48,539 --> 00:34:52,139hipsters that that. Like theyjust walked out of high school.56800:34:52,409 --> 00:34:53,489They're millionaires and they56900:34:53,490 --> 00:34:56,460don't wear socks and don't wearsocks. I hate that look. Yeah.57000:34:57,690 --> 00:35:01,380By the way, I have to read thisbook. histogram from blueberry57100:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,47033,333 SATs we are actually onroute to a convention crypt57200:35:08,250 --> 00:35:12,690crypto crypto calm right now sawDragon Ball Super Hero super57300:35:12,690 --> 00:35:14,640superhero was it supersuperhero?57400:35:15,540 --> 00:35:17,400Yeah talking about super superhero57500:35:17,670 --> 00:35:21,360super superhero in theater andwow this movie had one of the57600:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,960all time greatest scenes in theseries as a whole when go hunt57700:35:24,990 --> 00:35:27,960go hunt that's your character gohunt Yeah, was informed this57800:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,990daughter had been kidnapped holybejesus, I was clapping57900:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,620Yeah, Gohan has been a characterhas kind of been in the58000:35:37,620 --> 00:35:40,290background teaching and being agood husband and a good father58100:35:40,290 --> 00:35:42,840and all that but the crux of theDragon Ball is Who's the58200:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,720strongest character thosestrongest fighter and go Hans58300:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,750always had this potential. Hewas strong as a kid. He defeated58400:35:48,750 --> 00:35:52,650one of the big bad guys sellback in the day and fans have58500:35:52,650 --> 00:35:55,890been waiting for go on to begreat again. So for years I've58600:35:55,890 --> 00:35:59,400been saying when may go on greatagain, because he's not the main58700:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,210character. He's the son, thegrown son now of Goku, the main58800:36:03,210 --> 00:36:06,150character, but Goku and thisother character Vegeta are kind58900:36:06,150 --> 00:36:07,710of like the big stars of theshow.59000:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,220And while he wants to explain itall to me,59100:36:12,270 --> 00:36:15,450that just sounded like Shenronthe dragon that thanks, grants59200:36:15,450 --> 00:36:19,050or wishes, wishes when yougather dragon balls together,59300:36:19,170 --> 00:36:21,510I can have a career in enemy.59400:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,690Yeah, yeah. Well, as long as youcan do that, yeah, there's,59500:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,930there's all sorts of tricks. Weremain anonymous. And people are59600:36:27,930 --> 00:36:30,480like, you're doing this voice,and you're this voice and this59700:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640voice and this voice. But wealways try to tell people it's59800:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,220not about doing voices, it'sabout being a good actor. You're59900:36:35,220 --> 00:36:38,670a good actor, and you're not adouchebag and you show up to60000:36:38,670 --> 00:36:41,310your sessions, and you're good,and you're professional, and60100:36:41,310 --> 00:36:44,490you're directable and all thatfun stuff. You know, put good60200:36:44,490 --> 00:36:46,650karma out Good Karma comes backyour way.60300:36:48,180 --> 00:36:51,540It's hard to break into its itis just looking at your your60400:36:51,540 --> 00:36:54,990credits. Man. It's amazing. Whata career. It's really60500:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,030phenomenal. I'm very, veryimpressed.60600:36:57,510 --> 00:37:00,120Thank you. And it does take 10plus years to be an overnight60700:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,720success. Yeah,60800:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,080of course. Of course it does.Well,60900:37:04,530 --> 00:37:09,900it sounds like you what you didwas you took your your early61000:37:09,900 --> 00:37:14,280days of podcasting of geek news,and all that kind of stuff, and61100:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,9702.0 and the researchers to comeback, and you just kind of merge61200:37:17,970 --> 00:37:22,080them into into a thing that itwas just for fun. It doesn't61300:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,410sound like you're trying to makethis. It sounds like what you're61400:37:25,410 --> 00:37:29,730trying what you have now. Butwhat you've what you've built, I61500:37:29,730 --> 00:37:33,660mean, you were 65 episodes. 66Yeah, we're61600:37:33,660 --> 00:37:34,470now at 7061700:37:34,470 --> 00:37:38,940just posted today, Saturday,okay, to say, after 70 episodes,61800:37:38,940 --> 00:37:43,350like what you've ended up with,is a really great mark, you61900:37:43,350 --> 00:37:48,930know, marketing mechanism and,and, and channel for you, for62000:37:48,930 --> 00:37:52,170your fans specifically to hearmore of you on a weekly basis.62100:37:52,500 --> 00:37:56,190Where it's sort of a, it's notreally it doesn't seem like to62200:37:56,190 --> 00:37:59,130be a monetization thing really,for you. It just seems like to62300:37:59,130 --> 00:38:01,620be more of a connectionmechanism and fun.62400:38:01,980 --> 00:38:05,280Yes, yes. Because the fans thatgo to conventions, they're62500:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,090they're starving to get to meetthe heroes of the industry that62600:38:09,090 --> 00:38:11,730work on their shows with notjust voice actors, but artists,62700:38:11,730 --> 00:38:16,590directors, producers, you know,music, people, all that sort of62800:38:16,590 --> 00:38:19,590thing. They just want to feelcloser to these, the people that62900:38:19,590 --> 00:38:22,590are blessed enough to get towork in this industry. So yeah,63000:38:22,590 --> 00:38:25,260the podcasting thing is a greatplatform because I was very63100:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,980fortunate to kind of build afollowing on the convention side63200:38:28,980 --> 00:38:32,160and the fandom side, and andtried to lure them over to63300:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,670something else because othervoice actors have had success as63400:38:35,670 --> 00:38:39,390musicians. It's like, Hey, ifyou watch me on this show, I do63500:38:39,420 --> 00:38:41,880alternative rock and thensuddenly their band is doing63600:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,400well because they got a bunch offans and then they63700:38:44,520 --> 00:38:50,340Yeah, if I may. Yes.intergalactic boombox seems like63800:38:50,370 --> 00:38:57,270a perfect place for Gohan toeducate people in value for63900:38:57,270 --> 00:39:01,200value and podcasting 2.0particular really does64000:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,520particularly value for value Ithink. I think when someone says64100:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,790all people don't like Bitcoin, Idon't like those of the people64200:39:08,820 --> 00:39:12,300if you can convince them if youcan show them the light.64300:39:14,100 --> 00:39:18,810I would love to make mycharacters that I don't own a64400:39:18,810 --> 00:39:20,100mouthpiece for such great.64500:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,590I just met I met I meant ingeneral just more I think that64600:39:25,590 --> 00:39:28,800you can really do a lot ofonboarding because you could64700:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,910make it really fun.64800:39:30,540 --> 00:39:34,650Yeah, I'm trying to I'm takingthe concept of a podcasting64900:39:34,650 --> 00:39:37,860spaceship. intergalactic boomboxis a name that I'd used back in65000:39:37,860 --> 00:39:41,970my radio days. I used to pretendthat I was on a on a spaceship65100:39:42,150 --> 00:39:45,420and blasting heavy metal and Icalled it the intergalactic65200:39:45,420 --> 00:39:49,590boombox and I would talk to myown characters. I had an alien65300:39:49,590 --> 00:39:51,930back in the day we use reel toreel tape here remember this65400:39:51,930 --> 00:39:55,140datum? Or do I'm sure it'ssplicing with a physically65500:39:55,140 --> 00:39:57,960splicing with a razor blade anda grease pencil marking the65600:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,240exact points and get those likeI want to hear There's a65700:40:00,240 --> 00:40:05,910Metallica flyer and then I'minteracting with myself I'm65800:40:05,910 --> 00:40:09,120scripting parts for my littlealien character to come on board65900:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,450and I put the pitch up so itsounds more like you're beating66000:40:12,660 --> 00:40:17,460a drunk engineer characterthat's low pitched and drunk but66100:40:17,460 --> 00:40:20,610now all that stuff's here withfilters and stuff on all these66200:40:20,610 --> 00:40:23,670different interfaces that andyou know you got road caster Pro66300:40:23,670 --> 00:40:27,060and can sound demonic on demandor like a chipmunk66400:40:27,090 --> 00:40:30,780you do a lot of a lot of postson the show on integral 100%66500:40:30,780 --> 00:40:31,170Post66600:40:31,170 --> 00:40:36,270Oh, yeah, yeah, I scriptedfirst, and then I recorded Oh,66700:40:36,270 --> 00:40:39,540yeah, yeah, it takes aboutbetween four and six hours I bet66800:40:39,540 --> 00:40:43,050it turns your crank out 10minutes then I'm going through66900:40:43,050 --> 00:40:48,180YouTube and converting hopefullyroyalty free sound effects67000:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,480we all do it brother we all doit. I love when when you're when67100:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,970you're trying to recordsomething off of YouTube and all67200:40:56,970 --> 00:41:04,890of a sudden like It's like soundeffects from keeps coming in67300:41:04,890 --> 00:41:08,970every single time. Yeah, you tryto clip around it yeah, we've67400:41:08,970 --> 00:41:09,990all done it Yeah,67500:41:10,110 --> 00:41:13,020yeah. But But keeping that thatthe love I've had since67600:41:13,020 --> 00:41:15,630childhood for theater the mindlove an old school radio shows67700:41:15,630 --> 00:41:18,900from the day the shadow and theworlds and all that stuff and67800:41:19,350 --> 00:41:22,710and now that audio books andpodcasting have really caught67900:41:22,710 --> 00:41:27,330off as a genre itself true crimeand audio dramas to or Apollo68000:41:27,330 --> 00:41:31,830app and all that. This is like anew golden age for radio for68100:41:31,830 --> 00:41:33,840audio of the mind andeverything.68200:41:33,870 --> 00:41:37,860Do you think that I have asanyone really successfully done68300:41:39,210 --> 00:41:44,340a real proper radio drama? Imean, so a lot of the crime68400:41:44,340 --> 00:41:47,760stuff comes very close. But butbut without narration, you know,68500:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,540really just were you it's trulylike a soap opera that is not68600:41:51,540 --> 00:41:55,230narrated, it opens you, youunderstand the characters.68700:41:55,260 --> 00:41:57,870There's dialogue and it closesand then you wait for the next68800:41:57,870 --> 00:41:58,380episode.68900:41:58,470 --> 00:42:02,340I don't tell you and even dateyou and meet us did Christmas69000:42:02,340 --> 00:42:02,910Carol? That's.69100:42:03,690 --> 00:42:04,650That's right. Yes. Yeah,69200:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,800that was that's what I mean.Something like that. Yeah. That69300:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,490was fancy. Yeah.69400:42:08,940 --> 00:42:11,610Yeah. audio dramas or radiodramas from back in the day69500:42:11,610 --> 00:42:14,910because radio is, you know, itis what it is. Now, it's it's69600:42:14,910 --> 00:42:17,970certainly not going to hoststorytelling. But you have, like69700:42:17,970 --> 00:42:21,510I mentioned before, the Apollopods thing is like this hub for69800:42:21,510 --> 00:42:24,090audio drama podcast. And ofcourse, they're all hosted on69900:42:24,090 --> 00:42:26,940all the other platforms too, butjust go to central place. You're70000:42:26,940 --> 00:42:31,980hearing things that tell astory. I think a great example70100:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,510of audio theater is NeilGaiman's The Sandman, not even70200:42:36,540 --> 00:42:40,680this is a year or two before theNetflix live action adaptation.70300:42:40,860 --> 00:42:44,970It's audio. And of course, thescript is adopted to you know,70400:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,690paint the picture, wherecharacters have to kind of not70500:42:48,690 --> 00:42:51,750clunkily describe like, well,let me get this paper. And now70600:42:51,750 --> 00:42:54,390I'm going to write up and writea letter, you know, it's a it's70700:42:54,390 --> 00:42:57,210not spoon feeding youeverything. But with sound70800:42:57,210 --> 00:43:00,840effects and a great score. And,of course, a great cast who can70900:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,110act, it's not just about doingvoices, you're you're you're71000:43:04,110 --> 00:43:08,760making an audio movie. And itdoesn't always work. But when71100:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,300you get the right team togetherthings like the Sandman or all71200:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,880these other audio books that getturned into it. Star Wars was an71300:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,930audio drama on NPR in the early80s. And it was fantastic.71400:43:19,500 --> 00:43:19,890However,71500:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,170there's there is there adifference between the audience71600:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,730is I mean, I know there is butI'm asking really for, for the71700:43:26,730 --> 00:43:29,010technical side of things,because, you know, we have the71800:43:29,010 --> 00:43:35,010medium tag where you can tag apodcast feed as being a certain71900:43:35,010 --> 00:43:41,280type of content, music, audio,book, Film Video. It, would it72000:43:41,430 --> 00:43:45,960is it appropriate to put adifferent medium tag of like,72100:43:46,530 --> 00:43:50,250drama or audio drama, because itsort of stands as its own thing.72200:43:50,250 --> 00:43:53,010It's not a book. And it's not apodcast, is72300:43:53,010 --> 00:43:58,170there a way that Chapters and,and other namespace features can72400:43:58,170 --> 00:44:01,230be presented differently thatwould create a different72500:44:01,230 --> 00:44:05,100experience for an audio drama?Yeah, that's72600:44:05,100 --> 00:44:09,180a good question. And I guess myquestion always has has been as72700:44:09,180 --> 00:44:13,140you guys have evolved,podcasting. 2.0 is, well what72800:44:13,140 --> 00:44:17,280does tags what is the purpose oftags, honestly, because I I'm,72900:44:17,310 --> 00:44:20,190I'm kind of trying to put itinto my head is tag like a73000:44:20,700 --> 00:44:22,230search kind of thing.73100:44:22,949 --> 00:44:28,259No, I'm sorry. So when we saytags, that means it's one of the73200:44:28,259 --> 00:44:32,819features that podcasting 2.0 hasadded. So chapters. So that's73300:44:32,819 --> 00:44:36,539the chapters tag, and that justmeans it's just kind of a plate.73400:44:37,409 --> 00:44:42,179It this is interesting, Dave,take notes to take note of this.73500:44:43,259 --> 00:44:46,589So that's when we say that onthis show in the boardroom is73600:44:46,589 --> 00:44:50,279really just the transcript tag.So what we're saying there is,73700:44:50,519 --> 00:44:56,219how would transcripts work foryou? That value for value, the73800:44:56,219 --> 00:44:59,099value block is also a tag. Soit's really when you hear that73900:44:59,099 --> 00:45:01,889out of our minds it just meansfeature. Okay. So74000:45:02,699 --> 00:45:07,019in the x, it's on the XML, it'sin the XML of the RSS, there is74100:45:07,019 --> 00:45:12,149a, there's literally a, a pieceof code in the XML feed. That's74200:45:12,149 --> 00:45:16,139called transcript. And itreferences where the transcript74300:45:16,139 --> 00:45:21,149file is. So that the podcast appsees that and knows, oh, this74400:45:21,179 --> 00:45:24,869podcast has a transcript, it'llknow to go get it. And every so74500:45:24,869 --> 00:45:28,079you could like, the medium tagwould also live inside of your74600:45:28,079 --> 00:45:34,019Buzzsprout feed. And you cansay, medium audio drama. And74700:45:34,049 --> 00:45:37,319because in when the app like podverse, or cast automatic are74800:45:37,319 --> 00:45:42,899found, sees that, that tag inthe XML in the feed file, it74900:45:42,899 --> 00:45:45,779knows, oh, this is an audiodrama. But this is not a normal75000:45:45,779 --> 00:45:49,379podcast, this is this is music,or this is a drama or this is a75100:45:49,469 --> 00:45:50,549video or whatever.75200:45:51,930 --> 00:45:55,380So it helps the hosting servicekind of curate know the unstart75300:45:55,380 --> 00:45:56,160really for the list? No,75400:45:56,190 --> 00:46:02,340no, no, it helps the app,understand what content the this75500:46:02,340 --> 00:46:05,490is a very good conversation,what it is what content the75600:46:05,490 --> 00:46:10,080creators made available. So whenyou use Buzzsprout, an app,75700:46:10,110 --> 00:46:15,060those are Apple, Apple go. Butyou get an app like fountain,75800:46:15,060 --> 00:46:17,760he'll say, oh, okay, there's avalue blog has got transcript,75900:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,730he's got chapters, okay, I knowhow to display all that. Here it76000:46:20,730 --> 00:46:25,410is. It's really, it's reallypart of you. So when you76100:46:25,410 --> 00:46:28,500publish, if you publishchapters, you know, that's you76200:46:28,500 --> 00:46:33,090pushing that out. Same. Samewith all the other pieces, even,76300:46:33,330 --> 00:46:37,740you know, a location tag or aperson tag, all of that all of76400:46:37,740 --> 00:46:40,470your content that you'recreating at the hosting level,76500:46:40,590 --> 00:46:43,410and the apps are the ones thatreceive it. And so what I'm76600:46:43,410 --> 00:46:48,330trying to figure out, is, if youhave a type of content that we76700:46:48,330 --> 00:46:52,770already are talking about music,so you would have you use all76800:46:52,770 --> 00:46:56,130the same things that you wouldon Buzzsprout even except,76900:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,700instead of show title that willbe track title, instead of77000:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,630season, it would be album title.And but because you put the77100:47:03,630 --> 00:47:10,260medium tag in there, which meansHey, this feed is is music, then77200:47:10,260 --> 00:47:13,260the app knows oh, I want totreat this more like a music77300:47:13,260 --> 00:47:17,940player. So that's a very definedexample. But when we're talking77400:47:17,940 --> 00:47:22,980about Yeah, enhanced video oraudio projects, in that case,77500:47:22,980 --> 00:47:26,730you may want the transcript tobe more visible or not visible77600:47:26,730 --> 00:47:32,280you may want to have characterspop up and maybe not go away77700:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,830from the screen I don't know Imean, I'm I'm just shooting from77800:47:34,830 --> 00:47:38,520the hip it's so open and so wideopen that it just comes down to77900:47:38,550 --> 00:47:41,610what can what can we dream up?Yeah,78000:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,070well, you guys talking about themusic thing and whether it78100:47:44,070 --> 00:47:47,910should be you know, findable ina podcasting app or whether it78200:47:47,910 --> 00:47:50,970should be its own thing. I wasthinking maybe it should be its78300:47:50,970 --> 00:47:54,930own thing to for help people togo to one central location to78400:47:54,930 --> 00:48:00,090find value for value artist. Italk about podcasting 2.0 It's78500:48:00,090 --> 00:48:02,940some of my panels my q&a panelsbecause I'm trying to you know,78600:48:02,940 --> 00:48:07,140spread the gospel. Thank you.And sometimes the Their faces78700:48:07,140 --> 00:48:08,850look a little glazed over but I78800:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,519talk yeah,78900:48:12,330 --> 00:48:14,190I get that at the dinner tablebelieve me.79000:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,170Yeah, but if I say hey, youlisten to this album, you love79100:48:19,170 --> 00:48:22,770it. So you didn't buy it butyou're paying a service to79200:48:22,950 --> 00:48:25,410stream it like Spotify orwhatever. But what if you had an79300:48:25,410 --> 00:48:27,840app that did the same thing?It's streaming you the music,79400:48:28,020 --> 00:48:30,600but you say I love that guitarsolo I want to pay that79500:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,110guitarist some money then youcan do that you can use it there79600:48:34,110 --> 00:48:36,810and donate directly to themusicians or the band and79700:48:36,810 --> 00:48:38,400altogether and same thing with79800:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,150Hello. So79900:48:43,020 --> 00:48:44,220I hit the mute button sorry.80000:48:46,020 --> 00:48:50,250I like what just happened I'mpressing buttons here I'm like80100:48:50,250 --> 00:48:51,960what did I do? What did I do?80200:48:52,140 --> 00:48:55,080So we hit the impede theintergalactic80300:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,130boombox ran out of fuel there itis crashing from our stationary80400:48:59,130 --> 00:49:02,610orbit. But yeah, I'm surprisedthe the big of the record labels80500:49:02,610 --> 00:49:04,980in the music industry haven'tthought of this but of course80600:49:04,980 --> 00:49:06,750they don't really think about oh80700:49:08,430 --> 00:49:11,490please no you're not you're notsurprised new80800:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,370I'm not surprised it's like noTaylor Swift we want to find80900:49:14,370 --> 00:49:15,870another way for you to makemillions81000:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,000Well, that's what so you can Imean, it's coming from the81100:49:21,000 --> 00:49:27,930Hollywood side is interestingbecause you like this is part of81200:49:27,930 --> 00:49:31,200that has been saying lately thatyou know what I got a clip oh,81300:49:31,200 --> 00:49:37,530let's go to clip EJ was to clipit on this now this is going to81400:49:37,530 --> 00:49:41,550be interesting to you Adam.Because this is I'm just going81500:49:41,550 --> 00:49:44,970to add forgot his name. But I'mjust going to call him NPR dude.81600:49:46,020 --> 00:49:48,240being interviewed and Saminterviewed him.81700:49:49,380 --> 00:49:53,250Oh, the Oh, NPR. I don't knowwho the NPR dude is NPR.81800:49:55,140 --> 00:49:56,580NASM81900:49:56,940 --> 00:50:01,590Oh, yes, I know exactly. whoeveryou're talking about because I82000:50:01,590 --> 00:50:04,920heard this reference, I heardthat okay, I think,82100:50:04,949 --> 00:50:07,589Okay, hit hit solve everything.82200:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,690One of my many CEOs that Iserved with when I was at NPR,82300:50:12,780 --> 00:50:17,130as last CEI service name is Dr.Oman, he had an amazing career82400:50:17,130 --> 00:50:20,520in media. And he's to alwayshave a phrase that he would use82500:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,180that I rolled my eyes at first.And then over the years, I found82600:50:24,180 --> 00:50:28,200myself quoting it all the time,which is nothing solves a82700:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,400problem like a hit. He's like,there are problems with business82800:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,380models, there are problems withrelationships, there are82900:50:34,380 --> 00:50:38,100problems with the ebbs and flowsof business. But if you make a83000:50:38,100 --> 00:50:42,210hit, a lot of those problems,either go away, or the options83100:50:42,210 --> 00:50:44,730become much more interesting,and you have much more83200:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,780opportunity to figure out whatthe options can be. And so his83300:50:48,840 --> 00:50:54,360saying that implied focus onmaking hits. And I think that's83400:50:54,450 --> 00:50:58,590why is the advice that not manypeople in podcasting are taking83500:50:58,590 --> 00:51:00,840right now. Because podcastingright now is a hand to mouth83600:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,410industry. People are like, Ineed downloads, I can get83700:51:04,410 --> 00:51:06,600advertising and I just need toshovel as much cash into my83800:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,350mouth as possible. But they'renot thinking of like, very few,83900:51:10,380 --> 00:51:13,110very few, I would struggle tothink of anyone in the podcast84000:51:13,110 --> 00:51:15,210space right now. We're justthinking of like, what do we84100:51:15,210 --> 00:51:18,630want to be three to five yearsfrom now? And how do we make84200:51:18,630 --> 00:51:23,310decisions today, that will putus to be the leader in the space84300:51:23,310 --> 00:51:26,850we want to fill in three to fiveyears. That's the type of84400:51:26,850 --> 00:51:30,840thinking that is missing frompodcasting. Right now, for the84500:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,960most part, it's all quarter toquarter how do we get next84600:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,110year's buys? Or how do we evenscripts and things like how many84700:51:37,110 --> 00:51:39,420people do we get in? Peoplearen't thinking about?84800:51:41,100 --> 00:51:47,340Yeah, a couple things. First, sothis is a he left, a couple84900:51:47,340 --> 00:51:52,650years back, Yarrow Mon. I knowhim very well. He hired me at85000:51:52,650 --> 00:51:56,460MTV, only his name was notYarrow mon and Carl, you might85100:51:56,460 --> 00:52:00,780know him because he was a bigguy in the 80s in Cleveland on85200:52:00,780 --> 00:52:06,030the radio lemasters to rememberlemasters a name a real top 4085300:52:06,030 --> 00:52:12,690Pure graden but a real top 40pukalet. Everybody Yeah. Wow,85400:52:12,690 --> 00:52:16,830whatever it was, yeah, prettymuch. I liked this a lot.85500:52:16,830 --> 00:52:22,710Because that of course, wasultimately what MTV ran on. Its85600:52:22,710 --> 00:52:28,680business. And when I started podshow, which turned into me VO,85700:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,680by the way, the what's the Xanchor guy name? Who? Who keeps85800:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,650saying RSS is no good. There'sno innovation was that guy's85900:52:37,650 --> 00:52:41,280name? Oh, Manyana Yeah. So hesaid Oh, no, all podcast it'll86000:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,210all be video dude. been downthat road. We did that. And86100:52:45,210 --> 00:52:49,350guess what? No, we we switched awhole company from audio to86200:52:49,350 --> 00:52:55,980primarily video. And now stickwith a stick with audio. But86300:52:55,980 --> 00:52:59,940this headspace business isexactly what everybody's doing.86400:52:59,940 --> 00:53:03,180That's what Spotify is trying todo. That's what a cast is86500:53:03,180 --> 00:53:07,920designed to do to some degree.That's what I Heart Radio is86600:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,880doing. The podcast industrialcomplex is in fact, a hits86700:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,730driven business. And that's allthey're looking for. And86800:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,660absolutely right, a hit solveseverything, then everybody's86900:53:18,660 --> 00:53:22,020happy. And you see now thatafter a while you get it you87000:53:22,020 --> 00:53:24,900know, you get a hit like JoeRogan, which they purchased,87100:53:25,650 --> 00:53:28,410then it's very hard to getanother hit. They tried it with87200:53:28,410 --> 00:53:34,170the Obamas man wasn't reallyhit. He didn't really work. Till87300:53:34,170 --> 00:53:35,400Yeah, that's a great clip.87400:53:36,540 --> 00:53:40,650That the the what confused me?Because he starts out by saying,87500:53:40,650 --> 00:53:42,900You know what the hit the hitsolves everything, the hits, you87600:53:42,900 --> 00:53:45,120know, people aren't thinkingabout the hits. And I think what87700:53:45,120 --> 00:53:50,010he was saying is, at first atleast was, you know, three to87800:53:50,010 --> 00:53:52,380five, you need to think three tofive years down the line. And,87900:53:52,830 --> 00:53:55,770and then, you know, you need tothink about your hits. But88000:53:56,759 --> 00:53:59,309we need to hit right away. Yeah.And88100:53:59,309 --> 00:54:01,709I'm like, well, that doesn'twork. That's not the way that88200:54:01,709 --> 00:54:05,879work. Works. Nobody's thinkingthree to five years in the88300:54:05,879 --> 00:54:09,989future and will clearly I mean,podcasting. 2.0 That's all we do88400:54:09,989 --> 00:54:12,389is think about three to fiveyears in the future. Yeah. And88500:54:12,389 --> 00:54:16,139so I think then you're on ToddCochran said recently, and I'm88600:54:16,139 --> 00:54:19,799gonna give him a lot of creditfor this. Every time I can, as88700:54:19,799 --> 00:54:23,429he said, You know, I've beenthinking for the last, you know,88800:54:23,549 --> 00:54:28,67910 years about and building forthe 97%. And he said, he now88900:54:29,279 --> 00:54:32,759realized I need to build for the3% because that's a forward89000:54:32,759 --> 00:54:33,929looking longer time. Yeah,89100:54:33,930 --> 00:54:37,890there you go. I'm glad youbrought this up. Because there's89200:54:37,890 --> 00:54:40,620something that I've beenthinking about and working on.89300:54:41,010 --> 00:54:45,210And it comes on the heels of ourconversation about dynamically89400:54:45,270 --> 00:54:50,070dynamic ad insertion on the lastboard meeting. And we're saying,89500:54:50,070 --> 00:54:54,540hey, is this a success? I mean,is it working? And so I've89600:54:54,540 --> 00:54:57,960learned a couple things. So youhave your disparate people so so89700:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,350you know, if you takeadvertising Then you're going to89800:55:01,350 --> 00:55:06,630be working with CPM, which is avery odd word, I don't know why89900:55:06,630 --> 00:55:11,130they still use the M, it standsfor cost per meal, which is90000:55:11,130 --> 00:55:13,860French for 1000. I don't knowwhy they still keep that in90100:55:13,860 --> 00:55:18,120there. So it's cost per 1000. Sothat means for every 1000, in90200:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,910this case, downloads, I believethat's still the metric in90300:55:20,910 --> 00:55:26,910advertised podcast industrialcomplex, you get a number. So90400:55:26,910 --> 00:55:30,450the, the more number, the more1000s you have, the more CPMs90500:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,040you basically multiply that bythe CPM dollar amount, and90600:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,760that's what you'll get, oryou'll get probably 60% of that90700:55:38,820 --> 00:55:44,25070. So there was this numberfloating around 23 $24, which90800:55:44,250 --> 00:55:47,010I've been hearing for a longtime. Now it turns out and I've90900:55:47,010 --> 00:55:50,070been listening to all I listenedto pod land, I listened to new91000:55:50,070 --> 00:55:56,220media show I listened to what'sthe Brian Barletta? What's that?91100:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,870Sounds profit is profit. I'msorry, I travel a lot today. And91200:56:00,870 --> 00:56:05,310so that's for host reads. Andthe host reads, it seems like91300:56:05,340 --> 00:56:08,640this people are trying totransition because brands are91400:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,420becoming a bit wary about thehost read it, you know, it's91500:56:12,420 --> 00:56:15,360great with a superstarcelebrity, even then it can get91600:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,020a little complicated. They loveanything that comes from a radio91700:56:19,020 --> 00:56:22,200company, because they know theradio company has to adhere to91800:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,070FCC rules. And so they're nottoo worried about brand safety.91900:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,070And so now we have thedynamically inserted92000:56:32,070 --> 00:56:41,550advertising, which it seems Imean, I not sure if I'm, if what92100:56:41,550 --> 00:56:44,340I'm hearing is, oh, Microsoftseems to be buying a lot of92200:56:44,340 --> 00:56:47,580that. And then it's like, Well,really, it's just all very kind92300:56:47,580 --> 00:56:51,750of minor advertisers. Some it'sstill kind of direct response.92400:56:52,110 --> 00:56:55,950The CPM for that issignificantly lower. That's more92500:56:55,980 --> 00:57:00,360I heard Todd Cochran say,between 10 and $15. And I'm92600:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,060thinking that's what they'rehoping for I have a feeling it92700:57:03,060 --> 00:57:06,180may be closer to between fiveand 10. Right now, I don't know.92800:57:07,140 --> 00:57:09,720So that we're done, and that'sfor programmatic, right. And92900:57:09,720 --> 00:57:13,200so and the idea, and the idea isthat everybody should be able to93000:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,230get programmatic. There's like,I should say, hey, I want to93100:57:16,230 --> 00:57:21,420flip on some ads. I've got10,000 downloads a month, that I93200:57:21,420 --> 00:57:23,790should be able to get someadvertising money. So if you93300:57:23,790 --> 00:57:30,330have 10,000 downloads a month,that's 10 CPMs. That's 10093400:57:30,330 --> 00:57:39,060bucks, right? The 50. Well,yeah, could be Orpheus. So of93500:57:39,060 --> 00:57:41,820course, that means that therewasn't that your your inventory93600:57:41,820 --> 00:57:45,240was sold out. That means thatyou know, it was you have one if93700:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,940that's if you have one ad, ifyou can have four ads, I guess93800:57:47,940 --> 00:57:50,070you have a midroll there'sdifferent prices for that. And93900:57:50,070 --> 00:57:54,420it's very convoluted. Got a lotof different options here. So94000:57:54,420 --> 00:57:59,010you have to you have to make allthose choices. But the problem94100:57:59,010 --> 00:58:05,520with the advertising community,is they want to know, okay, I94200:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,690want to advertise on stuff, butit can nothing can be firearms94300:58:09,690 --> 00:58:12,390related. You know, it's not likepeople are talking about killing94400:58:12,390 --> 00:58:15,960anybody. But we just even ifthey're just talking about cool94500:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,790guns, we don't want to advertiseon that. You can think of94600:58:20,790 --> 00:58:24,840multiple scenarios. So and this,this is what I was hearing94700:58:24,870 --> 00:58:29,010across the board, thesepodcasts, brand safety tools94800:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,600that are in essence going tocreate a code for your podcast,94900:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,020you will be labeled, I heard itover and over again. Even though95000:58:37,020 --> 00:58:40,380Todd Cochran says he won't dowhat I believe it. And it'll be95100:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,830green, if it's good to go yellowif there's sometimes some if you95200:58:43,830 --> 00:58:47,550stop or read if you'll nevertouch. So this is the antithesis95300:58:47,580 --> 00:58:51,330of what podcasting 2.0 is. ButI'm trying to figure out a way95400:58:51,330 --> 00:58:54,510to bring your comparison intothe money part. And I think I95500:58:54,510 --> 00:58:59,010have it, I did some work. And Idid a lot of number crunching95600:58:59,010 --> 00:59:02,640and this is why I'm very excitedabout the Opie three dot DOS,95700:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,110I'd op three op three dot Dev,because now I can get a very, a95800:59:07,110 --> 00:59:13,800much more concise handle on myVPN. This is the metric I'm95900:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,280launching.96000:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,350I knew this was coming by theway you did not tell me this,96100:59:19,350 --> 00:59:22,200but I can just see I can readmelted carbon, right? Yeah.96200:59:22,590 --> 00:59:23,820Remember the force? Yes, the96300:59:23,820 --> 00:59:29,520value per meal, the value per1000. So So, but it gets really96400:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,010fun when you do it. So if youtake so that the metric is 4% of96500:59:35,010 --> 00:59:39,510your downloads, that is that isthe amount of people who are who96600:59:39,510 --> 00:59:45,690are who are boosting your orsending you value. Whatever you96700:59:45,690 --> 00:59:49,350get, you can safely assumethat's about that's the average96800:59:49,380 --> 00:59:53,730is 4%. So I did some work acrossall shows. I don't have all the96900:59:53,730 --> 00:59:58,200numbers. I do have some veryconcise numbers. I can tell you97000:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,700across this kind of with somevery solid data and some other97101:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,910data that I'm guessing about,but I think, oh, op three dot97201:00:05,910 --> 01:00:13,770dev will help my VPM across my,my podcast universe is $30.51.97301:00:15,300 --> 01:00:20,070Yeah. And, and the numbers. So Iwould say it's safe to say,97401:00:20,370 --> 01:00:25,230around $25. So close to a hostread. But what's interesting is,97501:00:25,230 --> 01:00:29,910you know, so the VPN is not setby an advertiser, the VPN is a97601:00:29,910 --> 01:00:34,800metric. So when you start off,and you have only 1000 people,97701:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,880or maybe 100, your VPM,depending on how well you ask,97801:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,900he's actually going to be muchhigher. It's kind of cool how97901:00:42,900 --> 01:00:46,050you start off when you juststart off with value for value,98001:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,190your VPM is incredibly high. Andthe more people you get the,98101:00:50,220 --> 01:00:53,910that starts to lower off totaper off a bit, but yet your98201:00:53,910 --> 01:00:58,530revenue goes up. The whole thingis, once you do the numbers, and98301:00:58,530 --> 01:01:03,360you sit down, and it works outevery single time, the number of98401:01:03,360 --> 01:01:12,330downloads, times 4% That's yourVPM and you should it should be98501:01:12,330 --> 01:01:15,510around $30 That's, that's whatyou'll be able to get. So if you98601:01:15,510 --> 01:01:21,810have 10,000 people. That's sowhat's 4% of that?98701:01:24,030 --> 01:01:26,6704000 people is 400 people98801:01:26,699 --> 01:01:33,899400 And then you multiply by vsmake it easy. 30 So now you're98901:01:33,899 --> 01:01:42,089at 1200 say that right now12,000 Now I'm confusing myself.99001:01:42,089 --> 01:01:45,239It's four. It's got to be 40It's got to be 40. I can't be is99101:01:45,239 --> 01:01:47,249it 400 math corner.99201:01:48,300 --> 01:01:52,740See? Oh, I know. I'm sorry, Icalculators I99301:01:52,740 --> 01:01:55,440see. Yeah, no, I see what I did.This is why I've discussed this99401:01:55,440 --> 01:02:00,120on the show. Okay, this workedthis 30 Now, okay, this, this is99501:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,150where it gets this is where mymy everything falls apart. I99601:02:03,150 --> 01:02:10,650still like to bring in my, my 30VPM is really runs a if you if99701:02:10,650 --> 01:02:14,970you do apples to apples forhere's a here's how I did the99801:02:14,970 --> 01:02:17,040full calculation and then youtell me if we're gonna work this99901:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,630back. Okay, I said all right, ifyou do a show weekly, and you100001:02:21,630 --> 01:02:30,480have four ad slots so you comeup with a number at your 24100101:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,430That's actually a pretty decentnumber you're making some really100201:02:32,430 --> 01:02:38,880good money the 4% of the of thedownloads that actually that100301:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,600turns out to be an annual amountor monthly amount. So what's the100401:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,880monthly versus the monthly butonce you put it on the annual100501:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,120scale it's it's like it'spredictable how you're going to100601:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,910grow and how it's going to workwhat I need to do is I need to100701:02:53,910 --> 01:02:57,810get all the all the OP threedata for this show so we can100801:02:57,810 --> 01:03:03,030show it to people because youknow this lesson we can gladly100901:03:03,030 --> 01:03:05,250show you what we're makingbecause we thank everybody with101001:03:05,250 --> 01:03:09,240the dollar amounts you will seethat you're you're so much more101101:03:09,240 --> 01:03:16,050profitable even at a very verylow audience really with 100 or101201:03:16,050 --> 01:03:19,230500 people you're already makingmuch more than you could with101301:03:19,260 --> 01:03:21,960with advertisers certainly withad insertion101401:03:22,740 --> 01:03:28,410we should we should do that insoftware like autumn yes yeah to101501:03:28,410 --> 01:03:30,750where it shows a dashboard we101601:03:32,580 --> 01:03:33,150yeah101701:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,510yeah just like the Bloomberglady we can have a dashboard and101801:03:39,510 --> 01:03:42,870that shows instead of brandsafety it just shows the VP the101901:03:42,870 --> 01:03:47,460running VPM telling you thatbecause we got we do now now102001:03:47,460 --> 01:03:51,240that we have we've gone off therails Calif sorry now that we102101:03:51,240 --> 01:04:01,770have the this the OP three andyou marry that to the value for102201:04:01,770 --> 01:04:02,430value yes102301:04:02,430 --> 01:04:02,640yeah102401:04:02,670 --> 01:04:05,550then you can calculate it comingin you can just click calculate102501:04:05,550 --> 01:04:08,670on the fly. Yeah, because webecause we have all the debt we102601:04:08,670 --> 01:04:10,800have all the booster grams andall the streams for102701:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,260luck. This is an Umbral app this102801:04:13,830 --> 01:04:19,830is no don't do that don't don'tdon't get in that okay, you can102901:04:19,860 --> 01:04:23,790you have all the booster gramsand streams that are stamped103001:04:24,150 --> 01:04:27,930with the podcast episode data soyou know exactly which episode103101:04:27,930 --> 01:04:31,320was donated to yep you can marrythat up with Opie three data and103201:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,660you can calculate on the fly youcan you have a running103301:04:34,050 --> 01:04:35,760calculation of your VPN I loveit103401:04:35,790 --> 01:04:38,880and it will be something usefuluseful because you can then I103501:04:38,880 --> 01:04:44,370mean, goodness this the get Albyor this get Alby Saturn stats103601:04:45,090 --> 01:04:48,870now that that's populated HolyCow Have you been looking at it103701:04:48,870 --> 01:04:49,290Dave?103801:04:49,410 --> 01:04:52,590Yeah, well, I've been looking atit with my head and shame103901:04:52,590 --> 01:04:54,570because it makes hella pad looklike a chump.104001:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,080Well, just on the well just onthe no helipad has look heli104101:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,470pads104201:04:58,500 --> 01:05:00,720x unit you're trying to make mefeel better night yeah104301:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,120but it's true. Because I thoughtabout this because you because104401:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,670you said heavy pads piece ofshit compared to this you'd104501:05:05,670 --> 01:05:10,290already mentioned was no becauseheli pad is it look heli pad104601:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,700first of all is real time as itcomes in, get LB is, you know104701:05:14,700 --> 01:05:17,910it's calculating, it's buffered,it's cached, it takes a while104801:05:17,910 --> 01:05:21,510for stuff to come in. heli padis a real time live experience.104901:05:21,660 --> 01:05:27,150heli pad has cool sound effectsheli pad has really good. That's105001:05:27,150 --> 01:05:30,420really good confetti, thatdoesn't that doesn't ruin your105101:05:30,420 --> 01:05:32,970browser after three hours, likeget out because they have105201:05:32,970 --> 01:05:35,490confetti but jams your browserthe memory leak,105301:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,310the fact that you're trying tomake me feel better about it105401:05:38,310 --> 01:05:40,650makes you feel good. I love you.Most importantly,105501:05:40,890 --> 01:05:43,890I'd love you to mostimportantly, you have an export105601:05:43,890 --> 01:05:48,030to Excel. So that is fantastic.105701:05:48,060 --> 01:05:51,150Oh, well. I'm just going toclaim superiority. Now, you're105801:05:51,150 --> 01:05:51,780surely105901:05:51,930 --> 01:05:55,530about with products. But what Ilike with get LB is that and106001:05:55,530 --> 01:05:58,740it's something that we'vediscussed, I think from maybe106101:05:58,740 --> 01:06:04,410Episode 10, maybe even lowerthan that. We talked about this106201:06:04,410 --> 01:06:08,250idea of a timeline. So you cansee the streaming sites. This is106301:06:08,250 --> 01:06:13,230really informative. It's reallygood. It's very interesting to106401:06:13,230 --> 01:06:17,520see where people I think in somecases, jump into the show or106501:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,940jump ahead. Of course don't knowexactly what's going on. But106601:06:20,940 --> 01:06:26,700it's it's phenomenal. It reallyis. And very mysterious moments106701:06:26,700 --> 01:06:29,580are counterintuitive to whatyou'd think it's it's good106801:06:29,580 --> 01:06:30,090stuff.106901:06:30,570 --> 01:06:34,170Well, the best thing about theOpie three knots. Now I'm not107001:06:34,170 --> 01:06:36,840going to boil anything down.That's that's that's douchey the107101:06:36,900 --> 01:06:41,100one of the great things aboutOpie three is that he baked in107201:06:41,100 --> 01:06:46,980ulit support from day one. Sothe ULI D if we can get if we107301:06:46,980 --> 01:06:53,700can get all the podcasting 2.0apps supporting Uli de mer that107401:06:53,730 --> 01:06:56,280that takes it from now you'renot talking about now, you're107501:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,950not just talking aboutdownloads. Now you're talking107601:06:58,950 --> 01:07:04,380about something very, very closeto actual listens, right?107701:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,650Because the ULI D, the ULI Oh,107801:07:07,650 --> 01:07:11,520you can match that or you canmatch that to yes, no, yeah.107901:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,700And you can you can filter itdown and say, Okay, I just want108001:07:14,700 --> 01:07:19,140to see unique UL IDs for thisepisode. Because the way the ULI108101:07:19,140 --> 01:07:23,760D works is when I download if itwhen my app downloads an108201:07:23,760 --> 01:07:29,100episode, downloaded, downloadsthe enclosure, it ran it108301:07:29,100 --> 01:07:34,800generates a random Gu ID stringand attaches that as a URL108401:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,400parameter every time that itdownloads the every time it108501:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,060downloads or streams theepisode. So that means that any,108601:07:42,270 --> 01:07:45,960and in the future, if it everread downloads that episode, it108701:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,190will attach the same URL. Nice.So you can say if you just108801:07:50,190 --> 01:07:54,960filter your URL IDs, you can sayokay, everybody that every URL108901:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,430ID for this episode was a uniquelistener. And that's the thing109001:07:59,580 --> 01:08:04,260that the stats industry does notwant. They don't want those.109101:08:04,410 --> 01:08:07,620They don't want listens to showup. They want downloads, of109201:08:07,620 --> 01:08:09,990course, because the downloadnumbers are way higher than the109301:08:09,990 --> 01:08:10,620Listen numbers.109401:08:10,620 --> 01:08:15,300Yes, sir. And we're not we'renot here. We're not to crush the109501:08:15,300 --> 01:08:19,260advertising industry at all.Don't get me wrong. I hope109601:08:19,260 --> 01:08:22,170everyone's incrediblysuccessful. There's definitely a109701:08:22,170 --> 01:08:23,460place for advertising.109801:08:23,969 --> 01:08:26,459But I think you I think we'd belying if we didn't say we want109901:08:26,459 --> 01:08:28,679it to be a little more honest.Well, I'm110001:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,320just interested in the realdata. I'm just interested in the110101:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,320truth about that. Yeah. Okay,more on No, I'm just we're not110201:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,870trying to be more honest. We'reinterested in the truth.110301:08:37,829 --> 01:08:41,909Yeah, for yeah for I mean, like,so. Kaldi have any idea what110401:08:41,909 --> 01:08:42,599we're talking about.110501:08:45,839 --> 01:08:47,309Let's see.110601:08:47,999 --> 01:08:51,119He was there when somethingmelts he was you was chatting110701:08:51,119 --> 01:08:51,329with110801:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,630Yeah, I was trying to catch youoff guard behind you.110901:08:54,930 --> 01:08:57,510You did he was muted and he wasleaning back.111001:08:57,900 --> 01:09:04,770Yeah. Yeah, this is a triggertrigger very sensitive mouse111101:09:04,770 --> 01:09:07,470here. It's like I click it mutesme again.111201:09:09,570 --> 01:09:12,870What you know the reason Ibrought this whole thing up with111301:09:12,870 --> 01:09:19,110the clip and and all that kindof stuff was because you coming111401:09:19,110 --> 01:09:23,460from Hollywood, podcasting as anas the podcast industrial111501:09:23,460 --> 01:09:29,850complex, is trying to becomeHollywood they really want to be111601:09:29,850 --> 01:09:34,350Hollywood enough in I feel like,you know, like, like Adam says a111701:09:34,350 --> 01:09:37,800hits base business. And theywant to just recreate you know,111801:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,920we saw the podcast taxonomywhere everybody can get the111901:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,880credits and all this becausethey really you're trying to112001:09:44,880 --> 01:09:50,040recreate hi in pod chaser wantsto be IMDB. Like they really112101:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,580want this Hollywood thing tohappen within podcasting, and it112201:09:53,580 --> 01:09:54,780had an award shows112301:09:54,780 --> 01:09:57,210they already believe it. Theyalready believe they're there.112401:09:57,660 --> 01:10:01,650They will start rolling But it'sjust based on companies that112501:10:01,650 --> 01:10:07,770have made no profit or no firingtheir employees because they112601:10:07,770 --> 01:10:08,790have no profit.112701:10:09,180 --> 01:10:13,620So but from your standpoint,Kyle, I mean, like, yeah, you112801:10:13,650 --> 01:10:19,890use seem to sort of escape topodcasting as a way to have some112901:10:19,890 --> 01:10:23,130relief from the Hollywood stuff.I mean, like, can you speak to113001:10:23,130 --> 01:10:24,420that whole comparison there?113101:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,100Well, you know, just being a fanof the entertainment industry is113201:10:29,100 --> 01:10:32,340something that I just lovecovering and putting my own spin113301:10:32,340 --> 01:10:37,230on with, with what I do for aliving and, and, and to make it113401:10:37,230 --> 01:10:40,980again, a theater, the mind signtype thing. But I'm noticing113501:10:41,010 --> 01:10:44,520that a lot of theseconglomerates are very attracted113601:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,300to when celebrities want to do apodcast, you know, okay, maybe113701:10:48,300 --> 01:10:51,240it doesn't work for the Obamas.But it works for smartlace. With113801:10:51,600 --> 01:10:56,190with Will Arnett and JasonBateman and haven't things like113901:10:56,190 --> 01:10:59,700that. And then they suddenly geta deal with Amazon and whatnot.114001:10:59,700 --> 01:11:04,200And it's like, Well, okay, it'shard not to be kind of cynical114101:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,780about it going well, okay, theygot an instant following,114201:11:06,780 --> 01:11:09,510because they've built theirwhole Hollywood career as on114301:11:09,510 --> 01:11:12,600screen camera people. Nowthey're working in the podcast,114401:11:12,750 --> 01:11:17,310but they happened to be goodstorytellers. And it makes good114501:11:17,310 --> 01:11:21,330content, just like Team Cocowith Conan O'Brien and114601:11:21,330 --> 01:11:26,100everything, and Marin, and allthat they happen to make good114701:11:26,100 --> 01:11:30,090content, because that's whatthey come from. But it doesn't114801:11:30,090 --> 01:11:34,710necessarily always, you know,turn into, you know, big, huge114901:11:34,710 --> 01:11:37,830returns on on advertising andeverything. And that's why it's115001:11:37,830 --> 01:11:42,330a hard sell for, for the averageJoe, or people that are normally115101:11:42,330 --> 01:11:45,090anonymous, who happen to beworking in a big industry like115201:11:45,090 --> 01:11:50,220myself, but you know, we're notbig famous celebrities. So but115301:11:50,220 --> 01:11:51,630this is like, if they don't havethe numbers,115401:11:51,660 --> 01:11:55,470this is the great news. Thenumbers game, the hits base115501:11:55,470 --> 01:12:02,310business can happily exist. Yes,go at it. It's perfectly okay.115601:12:02,700 --> 01:12:08,340You don't need homepage ofiTunes, or number one in the115701:12:08,340 --> 01:12:14,340Rancor, you don't need that youneed to convert. Again, from the115801:12:14,340 --> 01:12:17,850new media show, Todd said, Whowas it that said that let's go115901:12:17,850 --> 01:12:21,840and put up a white noise podcastand, and still had 400116001:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,320downloads, you know, it's like,people will listen to stuff. So116101:12:25,350 --> 01:12:28,410if you can convince a couplepeople to listen, and you have116201:12:28,410 --> 01:12:30,810that feedback loop, which youknow how that works with you as116301:12:30,810 --> 01:12:36,750a radio guy. You and then withvalue for value? You can you can116401:12:36,750 --> 01:12:41,850sustain. Yeah, can really do. Mywife and I have the number two116501:12:42,180 --> 01:12:47,400set sprayed podcast this week.We start with we're not on116601:12:47,400 --> 01:12:52,050iTunes, we're not on Spotify.We're only in the index we you116701:12:52,050 --> 01:12:56,010know, we we tweet before westart the show. We've promoted116801:12:56,010 --> 01:12:58,770nowhere else. I don't talk aboutit on any other this one I do.116901:12:59,460 --> 01:13:06,390And it just grew. Yeah, it'syour old washed up DJ, you know,117001:13:06,390 --> 01:13:08,460I hate it. When people say,Well, you owe to you. You're117101:13:08,460 --> 01:13:10,470already famous. Now. No oneknows me.117201:13:13,650 --> 01:13:17,520Yeah, but that's this greatthing about value for value, you117301:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,630have this great infrastructure.And, you know, I wasn't getting117401:13:21,630 --> 01:13:24,720a lot of hits and downloadsuntil fountain started letting117501:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,140people advertise within just onthat. It's like here, we're117601:13:28,140 --> 01:13:31,320gonna highlight your clip, orwe're gonna highlight your Yeah,117701:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,510and they're getting Satoshis forit right when they make the117801:13:33,510 --> 01:13:37,770clip. Yeah, incentivize. Thereyou go.117901:13:38,249 --> 01:13:41,189I mean, you gamify it like that?Yeah. Okay. Listen to your118001:13:41,189 --> 01:13:44,159podcast on this app. We'll payyou. Yeah, that's why I think118101:13:44,159 --> 01:13:47,429it's easiest to try and onboardpeople by saying, all right, you118201:13:47,429 --> 01:13:50,669don't understand Bitcoin? That'sokay. Here, go to fountain.fm.118301:13:50,669 --> 01:13:52,859Download this app, startlistening to your favorite118401:13:52,859 --> 01:13:56,519podcast. Okay, well, now you'veaccrued X number of sets. Now,118501:13:56,519 --> 01:13:59,399how do you want to spend that?Do you want to just take it in118601:13:59,399 --> 01:14:02,639and pay yourself? Or do you wantto give it to someone with a118701:14:02,639 --> 01:14:04,709value for value enabled comepodcast?118801:14:04,770 --> 01:14:05,820Nice. Hopefully, that118901:14:05,820 --> 01:14:09,150sounds attractive. I mean, itsounds like a great deal. And119001:14:09,150 --> 01:14:12,150it's such a different model thatmaybe people are trying to have119101:14:12,180 --> 01:14:16,170are just having a hard timeputting their head around that119201:14:16,170 --> 01:14:19,620it's like, Oh, so you guys don'thave ads? It's like no, not119301:14:19,620 --> 01:14:21,930necessarily. We're trying to119401:14:22,170 --> 01:14:22,650Yeah,119501:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,460well, but again, it's it's therelationship between the119601:14:26,460 --> 01:14:29,220podcaster and the audience, thethe listeners, or as I like to119701:14:29,220 --> 01:14:33,300say producers, that that's whatit is. So, I mean, for instance,119801:14:33,300 --> 01:14:40,020we can with certainty, say thaty y z as a colo location is119901:14:40,020 --> 01:14:42,600based upon the airport code forToronto,120001:14:43,350 --> 01:14:45,690and a great rush song.Excellent.120101:14:48,180 --> 01:14:51,060Excellent, there you go. That'show we really know about it. So120201:14:51,060 --> 01:14:55,650we thanks, people. burn out. Letme do some of these live boosts.120301:14:55,650 --> 01:15:00,870Oh, here we go. So let's seewhat just Yep and well getting120401:15:00,870 --> 01:15:04,050well it's it's it's DarrenO'Neill. He comes in with120501:15:04,050 --> 01:15:08,250101,010 SATs I have Oh yeah,we'll give him a little big120601:15:08,250 --> 01:15:14,460baller for that. Shot Caller 20his blades on I am Paula. I have120701:15:14,460 --> 01:15:19,680the perfect face for podcasting.He says oh, here we go and120801:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,380please order all of yourlisteners to tune into planet120901:15:22,380 --> 01:15:26,790rage this week Larry blender andI have a lot of fun and have121001:15:26,790 --> 01:15:29,550just hit 50 episodes. So thereyou go. There's some advertising121101:15:29,550 --> 01:15:37,350there's value 5050 Indy metus10,000 SATs and he actually was121201:15:37,530 --> 01:15:41,820watching the chat. He says thathis daughter Leila. You know121301:15:41,820 --> 01:15:45,960they do the show together. FunFun fact, Friday that she here121401:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,020I'll read it to you verbatim.Leila just realized the skills121501:15:49,020 --> 01:15:51,240she has learned from the show.They do the show together have121601:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,180real world value. She's readingat a college level in seventh121701:15:54,180 --> 01:15:56,340grade. All right. Excellent.121801:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,600reading at a college level.121901:16:01,830 --> 01:16:08,130Exactly. So we did theblueberry. Oh, that was actually122001:16:08,130 --> 01:16:13,860Gary Arne to send us 10,000 SATswith the y y z airport code for122101:16:13,860 --> 01:16:18,630Toronto. A 10,000 fermitas ACarl sherbert boost122201:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,790I don't get the reference. Whatis the122301:16:24,420 --> 01:16:27,960well see on my intergalacticboombox podcast. I have122401:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,080characters that totally mutilateMy name all the time, like122501:16:31,080 --> 01:16:31,920kindred spirit. Oh,122601:16:33,600 --> 01:16:34,440yes. Okay.122701:16:36,390 --> 01:16:43,110And we got a row a duck's fromEric peepee. 22,222 another122801:16:43,110 --> 01:16:49,890blueberry 17,776 Goodnessgracious, great boost of fire.122901:16:49,890 --> 01:16:55,440He says Chad F with 1000 hardhat with 10,001 on one he says123001:16:55,440 --> 01:17:00,240lit in the third pod versus whenwe just kicked it off. 10,033123101:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,680sorry, this wrong one I'mreading here. Another Chad F123201:17:04,680 --> 01:17:10,14010,201. And I think that coversthe the lit booster grabs. Thank123301:17:10,140 --> 01:17:13,950you all very much. And if you'rejust listening to this, I think123401:17:13,950 --> 01:17:18,780the pod cast app that does itbest right now. Or actually did123501:17:19,260 --> 01:17:21,900did pod verse get the chat inthere? Is that in the new123601:17:21,900 --> 01:17:25,320version? Yeah, it's in there.Yeah, so yeah, I gotta check123701:17:25,320 --> 01:17:30,660that out. So pod verse will giveyou alerts opens up with the123801:17:30,660 --> 01:17:34,590chat you can boost right there.Curio caster is fantastic. If123901:17:34,590 --> 01:17:38,700you're at the desktop, it hasall the bells and whistles. And124001:17:39,270 --> 01:17:42,570of course, we'd love for you toreturn any value that you feel124101:17:42,570 --> 01:17:44,850the project is worth thepodcast, the board meeting.124201:17:44,850 --> 01:17:48,810That's just just a report cardto you. All the work is in124301:17:48,810 --> 01:17:52,350podcast index.org podcast indexdot social, and I'm sure we have124401:17:52,350 --> 01:17:53,550some more people to thank Dave.124501:17:54,510 --> 01:18:00,120Oh, we've got some C. Then I'llsave this rant until after the124601:18:00,120 --> 01:18:06,780donation. Okay. We have adonation from rss.com from Ben124701:18:06,780 --> 01:18:09,540and Alberto. Okay, would youlike to know how much this124801:18:09,540 --> 01:18:11,790donation is through? This is aPayPal fee off on coupon124901:18:11,790 --> 01:18:12,270donations.125001:18:12,300 --> 01:18:13,590I have my hand on the button.125101:18:15,360 --> 01:18:22,110$1,010.10 which is 1010100. Man125201:18:22,140 --> 01:18:27,060Oh, shot caller 20. His bladeson I am Paula.125301:18:28,350 --> 01:18:32,310He says for Adam and Dave. We'rewe're glad we connected at125401:18:32,310 --> 01:18:35,340Podcast Movement with you and somany others. Look forward to the125501:18:35,340 --> 01:18:38,310next time we get together. We'rewith you in spirit until then125601:18:38,310 --> 01:18:41,310your friends at our ces.com Gopodcast, podcast.125701:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,680So nice. always there to help.Thank you so much.125801:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,450And because I know you like it,Ben.125901:18:49,260 --> 01:18:53,190Yeah. Everybody loves yourpaper. Crinkle126001:18:53,610 --> 01:18:58,380little asthma. Thank you, Benand Alberta. Appreciate it Mr.126101:18:58,380 --> 01:19:02,910Roberto in Dallas, but want tosee him next time. Thanks, guys.126201:19:03,960 --> 01:19:09,210Franco Celerio Celerio gave us$100 Nice cast a medic126301:19:09,210 --> 01:19:14,310development. Yeah, no note, butI emailed him and thanked him126401:19:14,310 --> 01:19:17,040and he said he had some reallykind words. And he said that's126501:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,510the least he could do. Thankyou.126601:19:18,660 --> 01:19:21,090Where's he going to Italy again?Do you remember where he lives126701:19:21,210 --> 01:19:21,990is near Milan?126801:19:23,550 --> 01:19:26,220Man, you you know it better thanI do because your sister lives126901:19:26,220 --> 01:19:26,580there?127001:19:26,910 --> 01:19:30,240Well, no, she lives in a fewEnza. But we're planning a trip127101:19:30,330 --> 01:19:35,400next year. And I was like,maybe. Sorry,127201:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,020you and Tina. Yeah.127301:19:37,499 --> 01:19:40,229Who else? Who else would I gowith you and your girlfriend?127401:19:41,129 --> 01:19:42,959Thanks, Dave. don't bust me bro.127501:19:43,289 --> 01:19:46,139Did you grew up in the congroupie? I think127601:19:47,490 --> 01:19:50,040it'd be fun to see we're gonnahook up with with Franco.127701:19:50,850 --> 01:19:54,600Yeah, that would be great.You'll get some business or Pay127801:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,250Pal. So yes, Mr. Graham's, weget Mr. Roy Schonfeld coming in127901:19:59,250 --> 01:20:03,630with 543 to one area is a breezeapp. And he says Did you know128001:20:03,690 --> 01:20:06,180you can use breeze to createpodcast clips?128101:20:07,799 --> 01:20:13,259Yes, this is new. Yes, it's new.They have their point. He got128201:20:13,259 --> 01:20:15,929someone in there. someone'sdoing stuff because I know Roy128301:20:15,929 --> 01:20:23,249isn't doing he doesn't reallylike us. He's just he's no, I'm128401:20:23,249 --> 01:20:23,759just kidding.128501:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,270He nobody actually likes us.This is still just Yeah. smoke128601:20:27,270 --> 01:20:27,930and mirrors. Yeah.128701:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,570Okay. Yes. Actually, I've beenI've been using the breeze app128801:20:33,570 --> 01:20:38,220for a couple of things. Youknow, it's I like the breeze.128901:20:38,220 --> 01:20:41,160It's my The first thing I checkout the show any show that I129001:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,670post, I first go to breeze. Idon't know why. But if it works129101:20:44,670 --> 01:20:46,890on breeze, then I know it'llwork everywhere else. Are they?129201:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,240Are they using pod pain? No,they wouldn't use pod thing.129301:20:51,749 --> 01:20:52,889No, they No, no.129401:20:54,480 --> 01:20:56,010They just take. Yeah.129501:20:56,550 --> 01:21:04,170What I what I use briefs for themost is discuss discovery of new129601:21:04,170 --> 01:21:07,560value for value podcasts. And Ikeep up with what's going on129701:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,680with them. Because I use all theapps, a daily driver is cast129801:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,420ematic. But I use breeze a fewtimes a week because I tried to129901:21:15,450 --> 01:21:18,690go in there and see what whatthe trending stuff is because130001:21:18,690 --> 01:21:23,190the value of breeze to me isthat it only shows value enabled130101:21:23,190 --> 01:21:26,670podcasts. It does not showanything else. Yes. So you can130201:21:26,670 --> 01:21:29,820really drill down and find outwhat's going on in the value for130301:21:29,820 --> 01:21:30,540value world.130401:21:30,540 --> 01:21:32,190Good point. Good point.130501:21:34,350 --> 01:21:35,130Let's see we got130601:21:36,360 --> 01:21:41,940I forgot 2222 from lyceum. Threehours ago. I was reminded in the130701:21:42,450 --> 01:21:46,020in the chat. Thank you. scrolledoff drive, we went way down. I130801:21:46,020 --> 01:21:46,680couldn't find it.130901:21:47,160 --> 01:21:51,540Is anybody in the chat? Isanybody in the chat? Chatting131001:21:51,540 --> 01:21:54,960from pod verse? That would beinteresting to know.131101:21:55,050 --> 01:21:58,530Good question. I'm just a plainold IRC client.131201:21:59,310 --> 01:22:04,800Okay. In a millennial, send us5555 And he says, I believe the131301:22:04,800 --> 01:22:05,910children are the future.131401:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,490So do we Man Thank you.131501:22:11,880 --> 01:22:18,090Drip Scott, send us 55 555 Thankyou, Jared. Very nice. Hope Adam131601:22:18,090 --> 01:22:19,890had a great birthday boost.131701:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,120Shirt demand. Thank you. Chat Fis using the pod verse chat.131801:22:25,980 --> 01:22:29,520Kyle, what's it like hearingyou're hearing your voice on131901:22:29,640 --> 01:22:36,540every every podcast? Like, Iguess you're used to it because132001:22:36,540 --> 01:22:38,310you hear your voice all over theplace anyway.132101:22:39,090 --> 01:22:43,890Now, dude, I'm totally just justhonored and everything that you132201:22:43,890 --> 01:22:46,950know, I could. I thought ofthose clips.132301:22:47,039 --> 01:22:52,979Oh my god, I just had a greatidea. Oh, oh, we need to market132401:22:53,639 --> 01:22:57,419a digital cart machine, jinglemachine. So I've got a little132501:22:57,419 --> 01:23:00,899panel here. And I've got threeand like, like 20 different132601:23:00,899 --> 01:23:05,129little squares and number 16. Iteach that as boost. When I hit132701:23:05,129 --> 01:23:09,269that number 16 Every single timeI hit it, I want to send you 10132801:23:09,269 --> 01:23:15,899sets why not? And why not? Whynot? This is beautiful. You132901:23:15,899 --> 01:23:19,049build it right and you build itright into the to the you know,133001:23:19,049 --> 01:23:22,619to the jingles somehow.Magically. He said yeah. Is it133101:23:22,619 --> 01:23:26,579done yet? Dave? We developed itas it was it was residual. Yes,133201:23:26,579 --> 01:23:27,719it's a residual.133301:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,660You saw how it almost blew up myown bro. You want me to blow up133401:23:30,660 --> 01:23:38,850your road caster? I don't thinkGeorge Orwell sin is 1111 a row133501:23:38,850 --> 01:23:41,310sticks and he says are you guyscoming to the Bitcoin Conference133601:23:41,310 --> 01:23:42,810in Amsterdam? Not133701:23:43,619 --> 01:23:47,189know, it's October. I have aninvite. We're both invited.133801:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,540The problem with me is I'mtapped out as far as PTO from my133901:23:51,540 --> 01:23:54,990day job. I'm gonna be able to goto stuff.134001:23:55,020 --> 01:23:58,920I'm tapped out on travel. I justhate it so much. Yeah.134101:24:00,330 --> 01:24:05,280See, we got 3333 from JeanEverett. And he says cheers with134201:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,970a little beer emoji. So we sendus some virtual beers. Thank you134301:24:10,710 --> 01:24:20,520SLC send us 66,667 Nice he saysvalue he or she says value for134401:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,330graphene OS info. I'm on aGalaxy S nine with Android and I134501:24:24,330 --> 01:24:27,480want Google lesson my life yeah,thanks for letting us listen to134601:24:27,480 --> 01:24:29,100you and nerd out go podcast.134701:24:29,430 --> 01:24:35,790Go podcast. Yeah, it's goodstuff, man. It's worth worth134801:24:35,790 --> 01:24:36,420looking into.134901:24:37,110 --> 01:24:40,140Okay with my with my perfectDutch I'm going to pronounce135001:24:41,430 --> 01:24:45,480Kinesia Can you say yes, yeah,well done. Getting better. Okay.135101:24:45,480 --> 01:24:49,7707777 through fountain aces. Lovethe podcast. Cheers. Renee.135201:24:49,770 --> 01:24:50,370Kanika.135301:24:51,300 --> 01:24:52,680Very much Renee. Can you135401:24:53,369 --> 01:25:00,719boost boost, can you? UtrechtUtrecht? Yeah. Very good. hacky135501:25:00,719 --> 01:25:01,409I can't do it.135601:25:02,130 --> 01:25:04,530You're good. Well, I'm going totake you there one day. And135701:25:04,530 --> 01:25:08,070we're going to put in a littleDutch boy wooden shoes and shit.135801:25:10,290 --> 01:25:15,720On a bike in your basket on thehandlebars,135901:25:16,289 --> 01:25:18,689Oh, that'd be great. Yeah,that'd be wonderful. Thank you136001:25:18,899 --> 01:25:22,499love the podcast from theNetherlands. Thank you. Thank136101:25:22,499 --> 01:25:26,699you, Renee. 22 To 22 fromanonymous, their cast Matic136201:25:26,759 --> 01:25:34,949Thank you anonymous acerbic sinis 1000 SATs from through136301:25:34,949 --> 01:25:35,639fountain he says,136401:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,640Oh, there's one thing we haven'tdone in a while.136501:25:39,990 --> 01:25:43,5302222 from an anonymous throughcast ematic Thank you anonymous136601:25:43,890 --> 01:25:50,34033 333 through another one fromSLC nine repeat customers is136701:25:50,640 --> 01:25:54,150taking marketing money puts youinto an open loop control136801:25:54,150 --> 01:25:59,010scheme. WR T you're can't waitwith regards to Okay. Let me136901:25:59,010 --> 01:26:01,140start this over. Now that andunderstand what acronyms I'm137001:26:01,140 --> 01:26:04,410using. Taking marketing moneyputs you into an open loop137101:26:04,410 --> 01:26:08,100control scheme with regards toyour content consumers. No137201:26:08,100 --> 01:26:12,270feedback. The company with theproduct being advertised gets137301:26:12,270 --> 01:26:16,020feedback and sales numbers. Notwith the for V. Let's feed137401:26:16,020 --> 01:26:18,540forward people. Ooh, nice.137501:26:18,540 --> 01:26:21,120I like that. And I liked it.Yeah, like very much.137601:26:21,150 --> 01:26:29,250Don't just stand there. Boost.PTR 880,000 sets, bro.137701:26:30,090 --> 01:26:34,170Nice. I think he gets a ballerfor that. Wow. Oh yeah. shock137801:26:34,170 --> 01:26:38,940collar blades on the Impala nowsay that number again.137901:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,850880,000 says138001:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,370Whoa, what's the occasion isthat like that's like the138101:26:44,370 --> 01:26:46,530biggest boob donation I've everseen.138201:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,840It says this is their KieraCastro he says looks like the138301:26:51,870 --> 01:26:56,280looks like of the one mil only120k actually was spent let's138401:26:56,280 --> 01:27:00,090try again for the 880 balance880k balance well once again no138501:27:00,090 --> 01:27:04,560need to read this on the air Imust have missed the first one138601:27:04,560 --> 01:27:04,890then.138701:27:05,730 --> 01:27:08,550So I guess there must be one for120 Somewhere we had this138801:27:08,550 --> 01:27:09,180message138901:27:09,630 --> 01:27:14,400and they have been alive boost Iwonder I don't know but I feel139001:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,900like there's a battle going onbetween Peter and drips god139101:27:18,930 --> 01:27:22,290yeah and I endorsed this kind offight this is a very good fight139201:27:22,290 --> 01:27:23,730to have we're very139301:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,120Yes Get your channels ready five139401:27:27,480 --> 01:27:31,740I just want I saw this come inactually I saw it on heli pad139501:27:31,740 --> 01:27:34,890because I'm always monitoringand heavy pads my favorite app139601:27:34,890 --> 01:27:40,920to monitor my booster grams withthis way but I put this through139701:27:41,100 --> 01:27:41,820I was looking139801:27:41,820 --> 01:27:43,110at Albion aid139901:27:48,330 --> 01:27:52,620I forget I force you to use it.I don't recall the 120 going140001:27:52,620 --> 01:27:56,850through which is weird. I don'tI don't recall seeing well and140101:27:56,850 --> 01:27:58,950that's not so much about I wantto read his message I want to140201:27:58,950 --> 01:28:00,330make sure we get his messageread140301:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,450boy said just like he says onceagain no need to read it on the140401:28:03,450 --> 01:28:05,970air so he didn't even want theoriginal. Okay, well140501:28:06,030 --> 01:28:07,860Holy crap. Thank you so much.140601:28:08,130 --> 01:28:13,860Thank you Peter. That was Yeah,yeah, I do I fully endorse this.140701:28:13,950 --> 01:28:15,360This battle. Yes.140801:28:15,420 --> 01:28:19,440So so we're going to be numberone on the leaderboard. On the140901:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,860fountain leaderboard. Oh wait,what did he boost was with curio141001:28:22,860 --> 01:28:28,230Kassar now we fall by thewayside. Oh, that's fake news.141101:28:28,230 --> 01:28:29,730Man. That's a fake news chart.141201:28:30,180 --> 01:28:33,060Yeah, it's no no as James wouldsay is incomplete rancor.141301:28:33,090 --> 01:28:39,150Incomplete. Incomplete rank.Nailed it.141401:28:40,530 --> 01:28:45,630Peter, again with 44,000 sets.And he says 44,000 failed on the141501:28:45,630 --> 01:28:47,550last boosts. Here's a funnelmate. Good.141601:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,820Wow, okay. I wonder whathappened.141701:28:51,390 --> 01:28:53,760There must be an origin boostssomewhere that he's now141801:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,710following up on in multiplerounds. And141901:28:56,550 --> 01:28:58,170the prequel is coming later.142001:28:58,530 --> 01:29:03,030It's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah.Wow. He went full. Super Saiyan142101:29:03,030 --> 01:29:08,010mode or whatever. That's cool.Adam See 9099 That's you. Hey,142201:29:08,010 --> 01:29:08,190that's142301:29:08,190 --> 01:29:11,670me. You also read my test boosts142401:29:13,230 --> 01:29:16,440me Sal 1000 SATs man we gottaread it. Mere Mortals podcast142501:29:16,470 --> 01:29:20,8207718 says Thank you Bill Withersboost just the two of us. Oh,142601:29:20,820 --> 01:29:21,120well, because142701:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,990we were singing all that so. Oh,man. Thanks. Just142801:29:25,830 --> 01:29:29,730the mere mortals podcast returnboost. 5858 That sounds like a142901:29:29,730 --> 01:29:32,850birthday donation is what thatsounds like. Just need to say143001:29:32,850 --> 01:29:36,330that 5858 boosts will godirectly to Adam to be used to143101:29:36,330 --> 01:29:39,090buy cake and candles. Extrabirthday boost.143201:29:40,500 --> 01:29:43,680Thanks. If you don't mind, we'lljust throw it all into the into143301:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,210the node that's okay with you.143401:29:45,900 --> 01:29:51,720Yeah. James Cridland 1001 setsto fountain and he says pod news143501:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,160covers the average cost per 1000for programmatic ads 2351 last143601:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,880month and also how well theywork which is mainly research143701:29:59,880 --> 01:30:01,650for The podcast industrialcomplex143801:30:04,140 --> 01:30:04,920thanks James.143901:30:05,940 --> 01:30:08,520I don't care about any of thatother stuff he said I just I144001:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,260just appreciate that he used theterm.144101:30:11,639 --> 01:30:13,199In fact one time for the onetime144201:30:16,260 --> 01:30:17,490fire 100144301:30:19,560 --> 01:30:24,540a dynamite dry Cridland jokeVery good. Yeah me. I relaxed I144401:30:24,540 --> 01:30:26,760blew out the microphone even fora minute they're144501:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,110relaxed males in his 22 to 22Mega rove ducks and he says144601:30:31,260 --> 01:30:38,160playing catch up playing catchup and enjoying the discussion,144701:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,580though it goes way over my head.Adam, Dave, thank you for144801:30:41,580 --> 01:30:43,980keeping podcasting awesome andshowing the world that there is144901:30:43,980 --> 01:30:48,480a better way What was that song?Was that song from the 80s145001:30:50,370 --> 01:30:55,920there's a better way you and forme and the entire human race145101:30:55,920 --> 01:30:56,970What song was that145201:30:57,000 --> 01:31:05,880one time for the ones no ideawe're sorry your cat in an alley145301:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,960that was very hurt.145401:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,300People die for the living.145501:31:14,430 --> 01:31:20,430We are the world's children.Come on. We are the ones145601:31:26,610 --> 01:31:32,070that Cyndi Lauper knows DionneWarwick came in first.145701:31:32,490 --> 01:31:34,410And then Bob Dylan can't forgetBob Dylan145801:31:38,730 --> 01:31:41,790do Bruce Bruce do Bruce the bossBruce?145901:31:50,610 --> 01:31:52,320Oh man, MTV baby.146001:31:53,130 --> 01:31:54,810Oh goodness. Oh good.146101:31:55,260 --> 01:32:00,030See, the relaxed male podcasthelps men get rid of their nice146201:32:00,030 --> 01:32:03,510guy in their real life. Get ridof the nice guy in their real146301:32:03,510 --> 01:32:07,110life and start living life ontheir terms. Oh head over to146401:32:07,110 --> 01:32:09,270relaxed male.com that just146501:32:10,500 --> 01:32:12,450that sounds like men going theirown way.146601:32:13,230 --> 01:32:21,300Yeah. Relaxed male. Big townslike a barber shop. Like like146701:32:21,300 --> 01:32:24,270one of those Yeah, take malebarber shops where they you know146801:32:24,270 --> 01:32:28,560you get the you get the shouldermassage and the NALSA could be146901:32:29,400 --> 01:32:34,380could be sir Doug 10,000 SATs.Thank you, Doug. No note. Thank147001:32:34,380 --> 01:32:40,740you, sir. Thank you. jaunty ms2222 through Brees says I'm147101:32:40,740 --> 01:32:42,330boosting from graphene OS147201:32:42,390 --> 01:32:43,380Nice.147301:32:43,980 --> 01:32:50,370Boost boost. It works Gilligansince 100,000 SATs through147401:32:50,370 --> 01:32:55,080fountain and he says Happy 100better later than Better late147501:32:55,080 --> 01:33:00,690than never boost yo, boost.Steve in Bradenton Florida is147601:33:00,690 --> 01:33:04,980what he says thank you, Steve1000 SATs from Gene been147701:33:06,660 --> 01:33:08,790cashed ematic gene been?147801:33:09,210 --> 01:33:12,120It says, damn. Now I've gotta gofigure out what happened to147901:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,110Podcast Movement.148001:33:14,910 --> 01:33:17,100Oh, welcome to the party. Yeah,148101:33:17,160 --> 01:33:20,520all right. Oh, Jean being heldhis button down because he's got148201:33:20,520 --> 01:33:24,630about four boosts of the samemessage there. Okay says oh, gee148301:33:24,630 --> 01:33:27,900mean, again. 5000 says he's forcast ematic. He says, Even if148401:33:27,900 --> 01:33:31,410this readouts content is drivenby anti tick tock, there are148501:33:31,410 --> 01:33:34,230aspects of it that EFF andothers have been calling for148601:33:34,230 --> 01:33:38,640years. I hope those parts thoseparts progress impact our US148701:33:38,640 --> 01:33:39,600tech companies.148801:33:41,730 --> 01:33:44,910Well, this is playing out rightnow with eff Electronic Frontier148901:33:44,910 --> 01:33:48,960Foundation. He's talking I thinkthis is going back to what I was149001:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,690bitching about tick tock whilenot bitching but pointing out149101:33:51,690 --> 01:33:54,930that they're taking SiliconValley's money. And man, there149201:33:54,930 --> 01:33:57,870was just there's like there'sthey had a tick tock, lawyer,149301:33:57,870 --> 01:34:02,970Lady show up in the Senate beinggrilled. Really? Yeah, yeah,149401:34:02,970 --> 01:34:05,460about that. So are there anyChinese nationals who have149501:34:05,460 --> 01:34:10,980access to the data and saw suchbullshit? So it's theater149601:34:11,310 --> 01:34:17,190here, here's my favorite techpress. Bullcrap is. You know, we149701:34:17,190 --> 01:34:22,050just need we just need senators.Oh, Dave.149801:34:24,030 --> 01:34:26,400Let me see. Are we stillstreaming?149901:34:27,390 --> 01:34:28,590That's a good question, sir.150001:34:28,620 --> 01:34:32,670Oh, yes. You're still here.Okay. So, yes. Okay, good. Oh,150101:34:32,670 --> 01:34:38,910that's good. Dave will I'm gonnahave to, he's connected. I'm150201:34:38,910 --> 01:34:43,110going to you know what it mighthave been his. I'm going to150301:34:43,170 --> 01:34:48,240pause the pause for a second.All right, froze. So Dave, your150401:34:48,240 --> 01:34:54,180computer crashed. Yeah, we had alot of fun at your expense. And,150501:34:55,170 --> 01:34:56,730and we got something special foryou.150601:35:00,000 --> 01:35:09,120At least at least once everyother show that serve this.150701:35:09,659 --> 01:35:15,119Some people get a boost Davegets together150801:35:19,980 --> 01:35:22,920okay. Oh man. All right. Whereare we?150901:35:23,610 --> 01:35:25,380I don't know where did thatwell?151001:35:27,900 --> 01:35:30,870Oh crap. That's a good question.Hold on a second. Let me look151101:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,500you can pick. So now that weknow what it looks like,151201:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,340gotta give me a moment toreclaim the emotion of that rant151301:35:38,340 --> 01:35:41,340that I went on for another 45seconds after151401:35:41,460 --> 01:35:44,340and I'm sitting there looking atyour dead feet and like he's151501:35:44,340 --> 01:35:45,480still talking he151601:35:46,140 --> 01:35:47,790is talking like a mofo.151701:35:49,050 --> 01:35:51,660Alright, do you think you canget back into it? Do you need151801:35:51,660 --> 01:35:55,230any motivation? Kyle? Can yougive him some? Your the your you151901:35:55,230 --> 01:35:56,400can coach him through this?152001:35:56,670 --> 01:35:59,400Well, let's see. We're doing apickup as we call in voiceover152101:35:59,400 --> 01:36:04,650so we'll we'll wait. Adam, ifyou could play that, that one152201:36:04,650 --> 01:36:10,470string again. And then Dave, youmatch the tone and inflection of152301:36:10,470 --> 01:36:13,950where it cuts off and willseamlessly Frankenstein magic. I152401:36:13,980 --> 01:36:17,040wish I wish I could. But I'mactually I'm actually recording152501:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,700on the playback machine. Andit's just not gonna go. I know.152601:36:20,700 --> 01:36:21,030I've got to152701:36:21,030 --> 01:36:23,400pay it. So I've got to pick itup cold. Yes. Cold.152801:36:24,990 --> 01:36:25,380Yeah.152901:36:26,460 --> 01:36:28,890That is that is essential andvoice acting if you're a good153001:36:28,890 --> 01:36:32,040cold reader and improv. Yeah,you're off to a great start,153101:36:32,040 --> 01:36:32,310sir.153201:36:32,850 --> 01:36:36,900Okay. You want to know somethingthat bothers the crap out of me?153301:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,950Oh, please. We're veryinterested. This just came to me153401:36:40,950 --> 01:36:44,190out of the blue for, like, I'venot thought of this before, and153501:36:44,190 --> 01:36:48,450especially not three minutesago. This, what drives me crazy153601:36:48,450 --> 01:36:53,160is the tech press bullshit. ofyou know, if we just had more153701:36:53,160 --> 01:36:57,150informed politicians, more tech,more tech and foreign153801:36:57,150 --> 01:37:00,000politicians, you know, they justdon't understand the tech.153901:37:00,210 --> 01:37:02,970That's the problem with the withthe bad, you know, bad154001:37:02,970 --> 01:37:05,340legislation that gets passed asthey just they just don't154101:37:05,340 --> 01:37:09,120understand. So if we just hadmore in well informed,154201:37:09,300 --> 01:37:12,570technologically informedpoliticians, they would pass154301:37:12,570 --> 01:37:15,480better laws, you know, theywould everything would be great.154401:37:16,290 --> 01:37:20,850That's not how it works. People,if you just because you see154501:37:20,850 --> 01:37:23,970legislation that has passed,that doesn't make any sense to154601:37:23,970 --> 01:37:29,550you, in seems counterintuitive,doesn't mean that is actually154701:37:29,970 --> 01:37:32,880ill informed. But all it meansis you don't understand the154801:37:32,880 --> 01:37:37,440money flow. Because when whenlaw when laws are passed, and154901:37:37,440 --> 01:37:41,460when laws are proposed. This issomething that everybody needs155001:37:41,460 --> 01:37:45,390to understand the concept of ajuicer bill, when a law is155101:37:45,390 --> 01:37:49,860proposed, it doesn't or evenpassed, sometimes. Sometimes155201:37:49,890 --> 01:37:54,210it's irrelevant. What the actualeffect of it does, is in the155301:37:54,210 --> 01:37:59,430real world, the only intent ofthe legislation is to trigger155401:37:59,430 --> 01:38:04,800money to flow to one, onecampaign or another. That's all155501:38:04,830 --> 01:38:10,140sometimes it's about Amen. Yeah,the bull the bull crap of the of155601:38:10,140 --> 01:38:12,990the comment, I just hear thisall the time in the tech press,155701:38:13,140 --> 01:38:15,540you know, well, clearly thispolitician just doesn't155801:38:15,540 --> 01:38:19,140understand the technology. Theydon't care about the technology.155901:38:19,500 --> 01:38:21,150They care about the money. AndI'll156001:38:21,150 --> 01:38:25,890tell you that what I saw SenatorHawley doing I don't know who's156101:38:25,890 --> 01:38:29,190lobbying him who's paying forhis reelection campaign or so he156201:38:29,190 --> 01:38:31,440can be on the committee's youhave to pay millions of dollars156301:38:31,440 --> 01:38:34,410to get on these committees. Wehave to pay it into the into the156401:38:34,500 --> 01:38:40,530DNC or the RNC in this case. Buthe was doing such a performative156501:38:40,530 --> 01:38:45,240piece of crap about China andthe CCP. And all this is is to156601:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,330get rid of tick tock. It'sSilicon Valley removing tick156701:38:48,330 --> 01:38:51,750tock, that's what's going on inWashington DC right now. They're156801:38:51,750 --> 01:38:54,720going to remove Tiktok becausethey're taking all their money.156901:38:55,440 --> 01:38:58,230And it's probably because ticktock doesn't have any lobbyists157001:38:58,230 --> 01:39:03,300in Washington. Bingo, Bing, andI bet you they will give them157101:39:03,330 --> 01:39:05,550give them two years. They'llhave a whole bunch of them and157201:39:05,550 --> 01:39:10,890then those and then those, thoseSenate committee hearings, they157301:39:10,890 --> 01:39:18,030will they will suddenly stop.Okay, here. Yeah. Sir, twin157401:39:18,030 --> 01:39:22,410screw gave us 40,000 SATs and hesays the tax export topic was157501:39:22,410 --> 01:39:25,680very informative. Thanks, guys.Oh, talk about tax exports.157601:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,480Yeah, sure. We did. Maybe thatwas intergalactic boombox that157701:39:33,480 --> 01:39:34,530tax exports go157801:39:36,090 --> 01:39:40,500against? Yeah, it was unless Iwas referencing the Phantom157901:39:40,500 --> 01:39:45,750Menace or something. Oh, thetaxation. Yeah, no, no, I never158001:39:45,750 --> 01:39:46,170talked about.158101:39:46,770 --> 01:39:50,100Okay. Well, thank you. Thankyou. I appreciate it. Thank you158201:39:50,100 --> 01:39:54,630for the for the boost. Oh, okay.You're 50,000 SATs from Todd158301:39:54,630 --> 01:39:55,110Cochran.158401:39:55,140 --> 01:39:57,030Holden hice. Thank you.158501:39:59,250 --> 01:40:02,940Todd says I've talked about thisin the latest new media show but158601:40:02,940 --> 01:40:05,580very much against somethingsimilar to nutrition labels158701:40:05,580 --> 01:40:08,580being applied to podcast todetermine brand safety right.158801:40:08,580 --> 01:40:11,940That's what I continue to beconcerned about podcast158901:40:11,940 --> 01:40:15,390listeners safety from specificadvertisers that sneak their ads159001:40:15,570 --> 01:40:19,260through proper programmaticplatforms. But purpose purposely159101:40:19,710 --> 01:40:22,380Miss identifying the content oftheir ads.159201:40:22,590 --> 01:40:26,100Oh, this is the this is thereverse problem. The reverse159301:40:26,100 --> 01:40:30,780problem of dynamically insertedads is you tag what your your159401:40:30,780 --> 01:40:36,660product is. And so a show maysay I don't want any casino159501:40:36,660 --> 01:40:41,160gambling, for whatever reason, Ican't get enough of it. But we159601:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,940don't want any casino gamblingads. And if they mislabel and159701:40:44,940 --> 01:40:49,290say well, really Las Vegastourism ad, but they're a casino159801:40:49,290 --> 01:40:52,500gambling ad and so that shows upon a dynamically insert ad and159901:40:52,500 --> 01:40:56,850that makes podcaster unhappy. Iknow Todd's heart is in the160001:40:56,850 --> 01:40:59,460right place. I know that he'sdoing this for the for the160101:40:59,460 --> 01:41:02,880little people. I know thatbecause I know him this and when160201:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,320I say the little people that'slike us I hope I really hope it160301:41:07,320 --> 01:41:11,130works out I really do. But youknow all that work will not be160401:41:11,190 --> 01:41:15,360for naught and you're putting2.0 in so there's always a160501:41:15,360 --> 01:41:16,050backup plan.160601:41:17,100 --> 01:41:21,000Yeah, the escape hatch the valuefor value escape is exactly160701:41:21,210 --> 01:41:24,090the escape puppet you pop it theescape hatch to the160801:41:24,090 --> 01:41:25,350international lifestyle.160901:41:26,039 --> 01:41:29,459Yeah, when everything goes badyou you pop this jump out161001:41:29,939 --> 01:41:33,809example hotel just what he saysexample hotel that slips in a161101:41:33,809 --> 01:41:39,509gambling ad but only listed as ahotel ad. Yeah. Yep. Live value161201:41:39,509 --> 01:41:41,639for value. Go podcasting. Oh,161301:41:42,360 --> 01:41:47,010sorry. I was doing too much.Give you a little lightning161401:41:47,010 --> 01:41:47,670boost there.161501:41:51,000 --> 01:41:55,800Thank you, Brother Todd. Lyceum2222 through fountaining says161601:41:55,980 --> 01:41:59,700with value for value dot info.You have the ducks in the row161701:42:00,210 --> 01:42:02,9102226 symbolic gesture161801:42:03,270 --> 01:42:10,500free launching value for valuedot info. GG and I have been161901:42:10,500 --> 01:42:15,000working on this and this isstill some stuff to be changed.162001:42:15,210 --> 01:42:18,750But take a look at value fournumber four value dot info.162101:42:19,140 --> 01:42:22,650Yeah, I'm very bullish on thison this work. Eller do you all162201:42:23,100 --> 01:42:27,330y'all both have a really goodway of boiling things down into162301:42:27,360 --> 01:42:32,130memorable pithy phrasing, thatreally helps cut through, like162401:42:32,130 --> 01:42:36,150cut through the fog, you know, Iknow this is gonna be a great162501:42:36,150 --> 01:42:36,510side162601:42:36,780 --> 01:42:40,770and organize all this stuff andput into that site. I did none162701:42:40,770 --> 01:42:43,080of that work. He did all ofthat. It's amazing.162801:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,790Let's see. He says I mentionedyour new site in Episode 56162901:42:47,790 --> 01:42:50,790years of time, talent andtreasure of the secular foxhole163001:42:50,790 --> 01:42:53,880podcast. Best premise MartinLinda Skog. Well, thank you,163101:42:54,180 --> 01:43:00,480Martin. And 2222 from McIntosh,he says getting ready listen to163201:43:00,480 --> 01:43:03,960the best podcast in Tupelo. Noshow on the net. Go podcasting163301:43:04,080 --> 01:43:05,070go podcast.163401:43:07,890 --> 01:43:14,460And the delimiter comic stripblogger through fountain 15,033163501:43:14,460 --> 01:43:19,230sads he says, howdy David. Adam.Please don't hate Aetherium it163601:43:19,230 --> 01:43:22,530soon will overtake Bitcoinvolume was You okay, well, yeah.163701:43:23,460 --> 01:43:28,950I use it for cartoon in fts.Anyways, your audience is kindly163801:43:28,950 --> 01:43:32,010invited to listen to our podcastabout artificial intelligence163901:43:32,010 --> 01:43:36,090called AI dot cooking. Read byGregory William Forsythe Forman164001:43:36,090 --> 01:43:40,650from kid just type in your webbrowser or any podcast app. Ai164101:43:40,650 --> 01:43:43,380dot cooking yo. Boosts and164201:43:43,380 --> 01:43:46,860yo back to you hold onbombshell. We have a late164301:43:46,860 --> 01:43:55,650breaking booster Graham fromDred Scott 555,555 Satoshi164401:43:58,440 --> 01:44:00,750blades on Ambala.164501:44:01,710 --> 01:44:05,550See this is the PTR hidden withuppercut and drip comes back164601:44:05,550 --> 01:44:06,870with the left hook. That's whatthis is164701:44:06,900 --> 01:44:10,710beautiful, as beautiful as inJava. And then we have metus who164801:44:10,710 --> 01:44:13,890comes in with 807 Do you knowwhat that is?164901:44:16,380 --> 01:44:17,370lopsided boob?165001:44:17,789 --> 01:44:26,549No, it's boot boost food.Awesome. Nice. And that's it. So165101:44:26,549 --> 01:44:30,569I just had an idea. We have thewe have the GitHub repository,165201:44:30,569 --> 01:44:35,099the GitHub with all of the allof the booster Graham stuff is a165301:44:35,099 --> 01:44:39,209lot of stuff in there. All weneed is a simple web page165401:44:39,209 --> 01:44:43,799player. And when you hit the nomatter who it is, you log in165501:44:43,829 --> 01:44:47,249with Alby do with Alby? Thereyou go. So you log in with your165601:44:47,249 --> 01:44:50,429Alby on that page. And then whenyou're doing your booster gram165701:44:50,429 --> 01:44:53,609when you're doing your, yourdonation segment, your ask your165801:44:53,609 --> 01:44:56,159booster grams, then you justbring up that page. You can do165901:44:56,159 --> 01:44:58,469all those boosts and everysingle time you hit a boost, it166001:44:58,469 --> 01:45:02,579fires off a byte to bedetermined by you amount of SATs166101:45:02,579 --> 01:45:03,569from your out b wallet.166201:45:04,350 --> 01:45:08,730I would use that. I love it.Yeah, yeah, I like that a lot.166301:45:09,090 --> 01:45:18,480That cow you are like the masterweaving in you know it's booster166401:45:18,480 --> 01:45:23,280related on the fly sound effectsthrough your you know made out166501:45:23,280 --> 01:45:26,520of your voice not you know notout of a out of a machine. But166601:45:26,790 --> 01:45:30,420do you do you pre do you do needthat on the fly? Do you pre166701:45:30,420 --> 01:45:33,450recorded like what what's,what's your process?166801:45:33,660 --> 01:45:37,500No, because when I'm I'mrecording directly into Adobe166901:45:37,500 --> 01:45:41,160Audition and I don't know how todo more than one input other167001:45:41,160 --> 01:45:45,030than my mic. I'm sure there's aneasy way to it. I've asked some167101:45:45,030 --> 01:45:47,850engineers it's like well let meget on Zoom and walk you through167201:45:47,850 --> 01:45:51,600that because yeah, if you wantto do a soundboard live as you167301:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,710record Yeah, you're gonna haveto do some some patching up and167401:45:55,710 --> 01:45:59,280I was like, oh god that soundsconvoluted. I want to be able to167501:45:59,280 --> 01:46:03,750do that. But yeah, as as it is,I simply stick in the the pre167601:46:03,750 --> 01:46:07,530recorded stuff as layering andpost in post.167701:46:09,000 --> 01:46:15,060Okay, gotcha. We got somemonthlies. Okay. Tim Hutchins,167801:46:15,150 --> 01:46:22,170my buddy $25 Terry Keller $5Soren Hilger Mueller $5 Chris167901:46:22,170 --> 01:46:27,990Cowan $5 Jeremy Kevin all $10debt free Rutherford. $5 Derek168001:46:27,990 --> 01:46:33,450J. Vickery. $21 Daymond Cassie,Jack $15 David Norman of168101:46:33,450 --> 01:46:38,700fabricator $25 Paul Saltzman$22.22 Thank you, Jeremy168201:46:38,700 --> 01:46:43,200Garrett's $5 and ThomasSullivan, Jr. $5. Nice.168301:46:43,200 --> 01:46:47,760Thank you all very much to theseboosters these monthlies the168401:46:47,760 --> 01:46:52,200Fiat fun coupon. gifters weappreciate it all this keeps168501:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,950podcasting 2.0 on the rails andmoving forward. But what's that168601:46:55,950 --> 01:47:00,330thing? Fast forward now? Whatwas it? We just we just had the168701:47:00,330 --> 01:47:01,470cool phrase feed,168801:47:02,010 --> 01:47:02,760feed forward168901:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,170feed forward feed forward.169001:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,700No, that's not right. I lost myIRC so I can't get back Oh, can169101:47:08,700 --> 01:47:09,750I get the boot again?169201:47:11,970 --> 01:47:16,710Maybe so maybe someone willremind me given go to podcast169301:47:16,710 --> 01:47:19,530index.org down at the bottomyou'll see red donate button if169401:47:19,530 --> 01:47:21,780you want to send it through Fiatfun coupons will be through169501:47:21,780 --> 01:47:25,500PayPal of course get one ofthose modern podcast apps at new169601:47:25,500 --> 01:47:30,390podcast app.com Throw the legacyout start feed forward that's169701:47:30,390 --> 01:47:33,510what it was feed forward eightfor throw the legacy apps out169801:47:33,540 --> 01:47:36,960there just give it a shot. Ithink you will like it. There's169901:47:36,960 --> 01:47:42,510a lot of fun to be had. Okay,where are we at now? Holy crap.170001:47:42,690 --> 01:47:45,150So they've told me if I if Idon't show up in like 10 minutes170101:47:45,150 --> 01:47:51,630then there's gonna be no moredinner for 80 Miles Okay, well I170201:47:51,630 --> 01:47:54,960have a feeling these guys don'tmess around here and in Georgia.170301:47:56,010 --> 01:47:59,250You go negotiate the new bassbass coin blockchain170401:47:59,579 --> 01:48:02,849Hey, I'm telling you this is agreat idea the beef I bet you it170501:48:02,849 --> 01:48:05,159exists 10 Bitcoin170601:48:05,220 --> 01:48:06,120a batch of beef corned170701:48:07,620 --> 01:48:09,780beef let's take a look rightnow. Hold on.170801:48:11,010 --> 01:48:13,650It's got to exist. Let's get to170901:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,410but it is an act if this is ashit coin I'm gonna buy some171001:48:16,410 --> 01:48:17,160just to have it.171101:48:17,550 --> 01:48:20,610Beef coin a cryptocurrency forproduction of meat from the farm171201:48:20,610 --> 01:48:24,060to the table there you go. Yeah,it exists. Of course it does.171301:48:27,450 --> 01:48:29,550The Bitcoin project wants toeliminate the intensive171401:48:29,550 --> 01:48:32,490technologies used in beeffarming if whatever's play Elgin171501:48:32,490 --> 01:48:34,380Dow or something, there's somecrap like that.171601:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,920Kyle brother, we reallyappreciate him coming on you171701:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,950shared a lot of very differentstuff. It was really good to171801:48:40,950 --> 01:48:44,100hear you kind of walk youthrough a couple of concepts171901:48:44,100 --> 01:48:47,880that we talked about on theshow. Hey man, it really it172001:48:47,880 --> 01:48:53,580really helped us understand thatwe have to be careful because172101:48:54,990 --> 01:48:59,430we're just not understood. Weuse terms terms that means172201:48:59,430 --> 01:49:03,360something else in humanoidlanguage I guess that was that172301:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,850was very much appreciate youcame and thank you for172401:49:05,850 --> 01:49:10,560supporting podcasting 2.0 withreally with your time and talent172501:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,260that's you can't do much betterthan that. I mean, it really172601:49:13,260 --> 01:49:16,800really fantastic we love it. Andthe booth Thank you. You are the172701:49:17,340 --> 01:49:17,910boost man172801:49:22,530 --> 01:49:26,400all that all that stuff? Dude,it has been such an honor to get172901:49:26,400 --> 01:49:30,120to speak with you and be on yourshow. Adam, you obviously you're173001:49:30,540 --> 01:49:34,620you started a whole genre ofentertainment and it's it's173101:49:34,650 --> 01:49:39,510amazing. And Dave your other podsage. You have been so cool. And173201:49:39,510 --> 01:49:43,770amazing and the dynamic betweenyou guys and leading the team.173301:49:43,770 --> 01:49:46,410It's It's It's awesome. It'sthank you so much.173401:49:47,100 --> 01:49:49,590I want you to say this. Loveyour work, man.173501:49:51,300 --> 01:49:52,950Yeah, love your work, man.173601:49:53,279 --> 01:49:55,349I was so sincere, beautiful.173701:49:57,240 --> 01:49:58,410I almost believed it.173801:49:59,430 --> 01:50:04,260Yeah, gotta work. Am I voiceacting for 22 years? More173901:50:04,260 --> 01:50:09,060classes? Hi, man. You good? I'mgood. All right. Well174001:50:09,090 --> 01:50:12,180have a great weekend everybodyand as long as there's no174101:50:12,180 --> 01:50:16,740banjos, we'll be back foranother board meeting next week,174201:50:16,740 --> 01:50:21,060same time, same place. Check usout podcasting. 2.0 See you then174301:50:21,060 --> 01:50:21,870everybody bye bye174401:50:38,700 --> 01:50:43,290You have been listening topodcasting 2.0 to visit podcast174501:50:43,290 --> 01:50:46,020index.com For more information