Dec. 18, 2025

Trees of Christmas Past

Trees of Christmas Past
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🎄 In this in(tree)guing episode, we explore an abandoned Christmas tree farm in Oregon that found new life thanks to Mark Rohlfs, of Santa and Sons. What began as an overgrown, forgotten land became a source of “Natural Noble Firs”, prized for their rustic, unshaped look. Customers embraced the wild aesthetic, while unused boughs were turned into wreaths, garlands, and regrowth materials, proving nothing was wasted. 

🔥 The conversation also touches on devastation and resilience after the 2020 Oregon wildfires, which destroyed large portions of the farm, including thousands of seedlings. Instead of giving up, the land was cleared and replanted, beginning yet another new life for the Christmas tree farm. 

🎁 Wrapping up this chat, we diving into Cassie's childhood working on her grandparent's Christmas tree farm. Happy holidays & stay warm, Creepy People! 

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When you have a U cut Christmas tree firm and

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you see the joy that people and families are having

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and it becomes a tradition in their family to come

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up and we've watched little babies grow up.

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Bill he used to tell people, if.

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You don't know anyone when you get here, you'll know

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a whole large family when you leave. That's the way

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that it became. People would get to know each other

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and friendships developed standing around that fire.

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I definitely remember the fire pit was huge. That was

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like central to the experience site. Hi Caitlin, Hi Cassie,

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Hi creepy people. Hey, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides

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where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all

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things spooky in the Pacific Northwest the p and W.

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If you're nice, stick and.

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We also do a tarot reading at the end of

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every episode for a little deeper insight into our topic.

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And sometimes our topic isn't even creepy or scary at all.

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Sometimes it's just cool in specific NORTHWESTI So yeah, Holiday

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and Happen tis this season and also sorry if you

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do not celebrate Christmas. This is a Christmas heavy episode,

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but it's kind of for everyone too. It's not Yeah,

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you can still listen to it. It's not specific. We're

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not just like telling the story of Santa Claus or whatever.

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It's actually pretty good. So even if you don't care

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about Christmas, if you don't celebrate, it's still a pretty

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good episode. I think.

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Well, and here's the thing is, Santa is a secular figure,

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so even if you are not celebrating Christmas in the

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maybe traditional religious sense, I feel like Christmas in terms.

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Of Santa people.

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Yeah, to all of us, Okay, that is true.

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If you want him, you got him.

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You got him. He'll be there. He sees you when

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you're sleeping. He knows something. Oh no, which is a

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series of spicy books I'm currently reading. Anyway, let's move

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along because we're going to do some Patreon shout outs

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that I'm not sure if we've actually done yet or not.

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So we're just going to either do them anew or

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do them again and you're going to deal with it,

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all right. First off, we have Brandy and Taylan at

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the Creepy People Tier. Hello, Hello Brandy, Hello Taylan. And

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you guys might have heard of Taylor before. She is

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our video edter Social media goddess keeps us in line

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sort of. She's just becoming our manager. I think you know,

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she start booking us shows any day now, Taylan get

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to Yeah, we'll just do what you tell us. We'll

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do anything you say.

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I agree.

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And we have a new member, Sam, not that new.

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Also, we're a little bit concerned. Okay.

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We try to stay really on top of these things.

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Hot, they are coming in real hot. So Sam, please

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you have a topic suggestion. Uh moving, moving quickly along

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from the Patreon irritations, we have an update from Clint.

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Oh my gosh.

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After we did the AI art for Clint's story in

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the Last Creepy People chronicles, because Clint saw a really

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creepy possible cryptid where nobody sure, but we put his

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description into AI and came up with this crazy Well,

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AI came up with this a crazy image of what

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this thing might have looked like, and so we sent

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it to Clinton was like, Clint, is this it? And

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then Clint sent us back a drawing and a message

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that all I want to text Caitlin the drawing really quickly,

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and then Clint's message, Oh, I'm so excited. So Clint says,

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that's close to what I saw, and it says, sorry,

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I'm not as good artist as you. You mean as AI.

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We didn't, Yeah, we didn't, and you're a great artist. Clint.

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I think this is this is answering a lot of

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questions for us. So he says, somewhere between my memory

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and writing things, I left out some details.

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Like like the dicks on its head.

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Hey, Clint is a fabulous artist.

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Okay, No, he's are just saying those are dicks on

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top of his head.

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They do look like many beans, but he does describe

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what they are. So he says, those are like tarantula

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legs coming out of the top of his head, which

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was pretty close to the to the drawing, but like

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tranchil legs, I'm like thick and hairy like. So his

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hair was shorter like tarantula hair and not we were

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kind I was thinking like long long emo bangs. So yeah,

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the drawing like is pretty damn close.

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It really is crazy. It's a startling likeness.

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Yeah, he drew him from the side though, so it

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looks like maybe he was seeing more of a side angle,

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which explains why we like the other eye you couldn't see.

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So he does maybe have two eyes, but we don't

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know because we can't see the second one. Hard to say.

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Maybe he is a cyclopes, yeah, could be gosh, but

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it is a very strange, just like circle body on

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top of the legs. It's it's so weird, and it

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does have arms. It has separate arms that are separate

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from the tarantula arms coming out of the head. So

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it has okay, two tarantula arm legs coming out of

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its head, and then two regular arms and two regular feet,

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well as regular as can be.

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You know, it's all relative, I suppose.

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Oh, and he wrote it has short, dark brown hair,

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and then the trantle legs are lighter brown.

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Yes, I was noticing that I.

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Didn't see the words on there originally. Okay, that's so cool.

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I'm glad that AI kind of got kind of got

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the gist of what you were trying to describe it.

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That's awesome.

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I feel like it really captured it.

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I'm let's move on to our topic for the day.

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And I realized that I'm about to talk about trees again.

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Oh boy, because I am a tree lover, a tree

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hugging hippie from Portland, Oregon.

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Literally like tes yeah, you guys, I hope, literally a

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tree hugger.

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I like to feel their energy, their vibes. We've talked

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about it.

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I know, I love it for you.

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So when I came across this article called the Second

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Life of an Abandoned tree Field, I got very intrigued.

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And the tagline is can a Christmas tree field abandoned

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for years become a plentiful source of tree and boughs.

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Mark Rolfs think so and is making that a reality.

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So we're talking about Christmas trees today. I love it,

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so I said. It was like, you know, a little

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Christmas heavy, but it's just about the trees. So like

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trees are forever about it, Like yeah, even though well

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I'll get I'll get to my opinions. But at the

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end about the Christmas trees. Uh oh no, no, no,

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it's not bad.

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I'm like, am I about to be canceled for my

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Christmas tree?

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All, it's sweet, It's sweet, okay, Okay. In twenty seventeen,

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Mark Rolf's decided to save what they call old fern flat.

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He did not want the overgrown and unshaped mess of

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forgotten trees to go to waste, so they were sold

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as natural noble furs at their La Christmas Tree lot

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called Santa and Sons.

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Noble furs are expensive.

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Yeah, right, that's why he's like looking around this field

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of It's one of the pictures I have for you

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of the field of like the mess that they were

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looking at here.

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Okay, yeah, we had lengthy conversations about varietals of trees

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when we went to go get ours, because Chris's parents

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specifically like a different one than what we went with,

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which was the Noble Fur.

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And it's not because it's.

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A noble fur, like I am not such a brand

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tour that I needed to be like, oh I want

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the most expensive. No, it's just we we kind of

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needed a smallish tree, and all of the kind of

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smaller ones were noble fur. It seemed like, so yeah,

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that's how that happened.

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I'll give you some fun facts about noble fur trees. Actually, okay,

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the tree lot where they sell these Christmas.

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These chrees Christmas Church.

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The tree lot Santa and Sons where they sell these

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Christmas trees is in LA and they grow, Yeah, the

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trees in Oregon. And that's because noble furs are native

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to Oregon and they only grow in the Pacific Northwest.

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Oh well, maybe that explains my preference.

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The noble fur trees. A love of frosty winter and

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elevations above four thousand feet. Oh that's pretty dang elevated.

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If you ask me, it sure is. And the Noble

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Fur out sells all other varieties in the Western United States,

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so you're not the only one everyone loves a noble.

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Fur, makes sense, I will say, I don't know if

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it's specific to the noble fur, but they also are

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harboring erected fugitives, criminals that have snuck into my home.

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Oh well, see, you took their home into your home,

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so it's basically your fault.

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I know.

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I just every year I think to myself, it'll be

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fine because they run it through the shaker machine.

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Yeah, you know, and they like wind it up.

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Have you seen I Actually this is funny. I have

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a video of a spider web and a spider in

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the middle of it in a windstorm, and it's just like,

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oh my god doing this and it is not budging. Dude,

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it's not budging. I should I should add that, put

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that video somewhere.

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Yeah, you're yeah, you might have to make that part

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of the social media for this episode.

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Yeah, you guys can't see my hand movements because we're

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not doing video for this one. But man, I'm just

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going back and forth in front of the candy.

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Yeah.

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So, anyway about the Christmas trees. Santa Incens was founded

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by Mark and his wife Patricia in nineteen eighty three,

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and I have a really cute picture of Mark with

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a Christmas tree just do too, Adores. He kind of

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looks like Santa. I'm not gonna lie. He could be

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as a farmer. Well, it's Santa and sons. He's Santa's son,

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you guys, is an an. It looks like such a

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perfect Christmas tree standing with.

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Oh no, that is just gorgeous. I would have had

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to have like cut that tree in half to get

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it into my place.

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Yeah, that looks like one of the more shaped, like

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purposefully shaped, maintained taking care of from birth and not

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just left to overgrow trees. But it turns out that

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a lot of people love the rustic and unkempt style.

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They're usually with larger branches and they have more space

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in between them for like larger ornaments and stuff. Yeah,

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so the really tall trees like the picture I sent

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you first, they use just the tips of the trees,

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so they use those to sell for Christmas trees. They

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like basically cut off the tips of the trees and

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then all the boughs down underneath. They took them off

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to make wreaths and what are they waths and garlands.

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Garlands.

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Yeah, so they weren't wasting anything and They also used

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the clippings for regrowing purposes as well. Oh there's a

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really cute video on one of the articles on their

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website of Mark planting a little tree a little seedling.

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It's so cute. It's like cool to just see.

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I love it.

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Literally, it's just like digging my hand, not using a

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machine and planting the little seedlings. I mean, I'm sure

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you've seen these Christmas trees before, but they have an

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Instagram post of someone posted one of their trees that

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they decorated, so you can kind of see like all

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the space that's in between the bigger branches. It's not

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very it's not perfectly shaped.

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Yeah, ours is definitely not perfectly shaped.

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Actually had to shape it yourself.

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Yes, no, quite literally, and I and only shaping it

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so that it can fit in our space, not to

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like make it like a perfect triangle or anything.

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We had to saw some of the lower branches off

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this morning so that it would sit in the tree

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stand correctly, because like tree branches. Yeah, no, I'm serious.

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It was such a Oh I think that's why I

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needed to try to nap.

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Oh.

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Yeah, look at that. It's like all the way up

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to their ceilings.

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I know it is big, but I do like kind

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of the space in between and like the more natural look.

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I like both. I like it always, I like it allways.

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Yeah, I just like a good tree.

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So I did come across another article and it's called

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the Third Life of an Abandoned tree field. So the

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first one was called the second life, and then I

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found one called the third life, and I was like,

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the fuck happened? And then wow, I was like, oh yeah.

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So in September twenty twenty, forest fires ripped through most

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of Oregon in the West coast. Yeah, they sure did,

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including areas of Marx Farm. They lost a lot of

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the natural fur field. And this was after they had

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harvested Let's see, they started in twenty seventeen. This was

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twenty twenty, so they had harvested a lot of it

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already and sold it. But there was still some left

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and that, you know, a lot of that they lost.

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And they also, yeah, they lost a field of thousands

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of freshly planted seedlings. No, yeah, they were just like,

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oh my god, like hundreds of man hours planting like

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they do these by they do the planting by hand.

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They don't use machines. Yea, and that was just completely ill,

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completely lost. That is so heartbreaking. It's devastating. And I

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can't remember which fire this was. There's been a few,

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like really really devastating fire. Do you remember what the

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twenty twenty There could have been multiple too.

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I don't recall it being like given a specific name

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or anything, but I remember having like at that point,

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that's when I was still I was living in Oregon City,

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and I remember I had to leave work one day

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and I was working probably about thirty During COVID, you

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could get back and forth between the West Side and

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Oregon City in less than thirty minutes, but I was like,

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you know, it was thirty forty minute drive normally. So

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I was very panicky because I had to leave work

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in the middle of the day because as we were

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in the red zone.

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Ah, the fire was cz like as the crow flies.

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It was only about a mile and a half away

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from where we were living, and I was like, I

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gotta go get my dogs. I got to go get

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like the stuff that I can't replace, and I went

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and stayed with a friend somewhere else because I just

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thismog like, because I mean, it's not smog it's it's smoke,

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but it was so thick.

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Yeah, I saw pictures of that. I have pictures of it,

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like rolling in and it looks like doomsday.

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It does. It looks like you're on Mars. And I

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remember I was having.

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A lot of issues because for I mean, I have asthma,

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so for people with respiratory issues also during a literal

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respiratory disease pandemic.

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Yes, And they were like, I was so freaked out.

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I was so didn't go outside. And they're like, extra,

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don't go outside though, like, don't even go in your backyard.

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And I'm like, but my dog has to want peace.

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She's gonna like die. And they were like, going outside

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and breathing for what like five minutes is like smoking

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twenty million packets of cigarettes. Not that exaggerated, but I

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mean I'm crazy. Yeah, the smoke was.

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Really really thick in some areas where it was very very.

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Dangerous, like the air quality.

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People who you know, eat their head, respiratory issues, children,

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you know, seniors really having a lot of issues, like

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it was not safe to be outside.

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It was scary. And I just did a quick google

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and it says the twenty twenty Oregon wildfire season was

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the most destructive on the record in the state.

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Yeah, twenty twenty was. I've said it once twice. I

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don't even know how many times.

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Twenty twenty was very specifically the longest decade ever, and

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I'm talking about.

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Us in Oregon too, like these fires, protests, like COVID,

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all of it.

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Yeah, it was. It was a lot.

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I just felt like every single day it felt like

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there was kind of a new crisis.

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Yeah.

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I also went through a breakup at Oh God in

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twenty twenty two, so it was just like every leason,

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my life is on fire, and it turns out so

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is the planet.

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So what are you gonna do?

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At one point, wasn't there something about like killer like

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giant killer bees or killer bees, yellow jackets or something,

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and everyone was just like, oh, all right.

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Well, and then I think I think it was.

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The next summer and fall that Australia it might have

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still been in twenty twenty.

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I can't remember the precise dates.

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But Australia had devastating wildfires too.

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Have they lost the kangaroo.

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And koalas.

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I mean, and just like the devastation to you know,

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their topography, like it's not good.

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So after the devastation of all of this loss from

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the fire, really the only option to them was just

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to start over. So they cleared the fields of burnt

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timber and prep the soil for replanting. More hundreds of

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man hours spent replanting like so thousands and thousands of seedlings.

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Well and whenever.

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Like a Christmas tree farm that is almost always like

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a family run business. It's like, it's so devastating to

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think about that type of It's like, I don't know,

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it's it's not good when other bigger companies have a loss, maybe,

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but like more in economic terms, I just feel like

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it's so personal to them, you know. It's like I

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planted these trees.

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Yes, And I'm going to read it literally with their hands,

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with their feet, with their heart. I'm going to read

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a quote from the end of this article. It says,

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most people think our work is done once Christmas is over,

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but it's just the beginning of a different type of work.

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With our crew in the fields every week. It really

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is a year round job for us.

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Yeah, I mean you gotta keep planting trees, yes, gotta.

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Keep care all year absolutely, And it really was like

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reading this kind of was tugging at my heart strings

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about the trees because I was feeling like, it's so

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mean to just kill a tree and like keep its

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dead body in your house for a few weeks and

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then throw it out, Like I feeling like monster, right,

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But then when you think about these people who have

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these huge farms of trees, and they put all this

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love and time and energy into growing this tree for

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you so that you can have it in your home.

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It can light up your home and bring joy for

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you for a couple of weeks and then it's you know, recycled,

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Please recycle the tree. But it just made it feel

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a lot more special to me and not so just

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like gruesome, like oh my god, just putting a tree

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to toss it. It really is a lot more special.

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And then these people, this is their livelihood, their farmers. Yeah, okay,

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so do you want to hear something really really cool

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about me that I don't know? I might have. I

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might have mentioned this on the podcast before, but I

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don't know. Honestly, you might know.

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Okay, I'm dying to know because I don't know if

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I know.

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Okay, I know, but I don't know if you know

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what I know that you think that. I know, Okay,

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that didn't make any sense.

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Damn. It got real meta.

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So when I was a kid, I used to quote

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unquote work on my u G my grandparents Christmas tree farm. Yes,

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so I would. I wouldn't. I was really little, so

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I was like, you know, serving hot cocoa, Like hell yeah.

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I would take people on a little animal tours. I

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don't know if like someone told me to do that,

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or if I just was like, I'm gonna go take

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people on animal tours. And I would go around to

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like all little stalls with the I don't know, goats.

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There was EMUs, there was peacocks. I'm sure there was

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like chickens and pigs and ducks and shit. So I'd

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go around and like take people to tour the animals

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or something.

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I like a little tiny girl boss entrepreneur. You're like

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starting a whole separate side venture.

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I try. I don't know. I just I think I

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really liked an off. I love animals. I'm like, hey,

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let's go yeah, animals, I think, or maybe maybe someone

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suggested it to me, maybe my grandma told me to

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go and do it. I it was I was pretty young,

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so I don't. My memories are kind of foggy about it,

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and I didn't really think about like how special this

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kind of was until recently, and I'm like, man, that

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was pretty damn magical that I got to spend a

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good chunk of my childhood at a Christmas tree farm.

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Seriously, it feels like a Hallmark movie.

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It does. And then even in the off season, like

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we would be there all the time, and it was

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just across the street from their house, so we would

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just go across the street and go wander around through

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the trees and there was back trails and I've I

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remember me and my aunts and cousins would go walking

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around back there in the trees and we found a

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deer head or was like I don't know if it

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was an elk or a deer, but I had really

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big horns and it was on a stump, and I

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just I thought that was the creepiest thing. And I'm like,

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who put this there? It was so mysterious to me?

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Is this like I don't know what. I don't think

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I was thinking like Satanic rituals at that point, but like, yeah,

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something along those lines was cooking in my brain, like

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this is spooky and like, yeah, cool.

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But it's like that horror movie that they made with

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Winnie the Pooh. You're like, oh my.

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God, they made a horror movie with Whinnie the Pooh.

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Yes, yeah, this is like old.

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I don't know when this came out, but it's like

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probably I'm gonna say from my memory, I think it

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came out in like the last five years.

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But yeah, I go, we need to look that up.

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Yeah, you're gonna have to look it up because maybe

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that's what happened.

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But so I think we went back all scared to

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the adults or something and we're like, well, we found

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this head on the stump in the woods. And then

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they were like, well, yeah, you you, when you kill

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a deer or like an elk or whatever, you want

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to have the antlers and the skull for a trophy,

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so you leave it out so the bugs can eat

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all this the flesh off of it. Oh. So it

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was like totally a normal thing. Nothing creepy, nothing, no voodoo.

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You know.

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Still it sounds really creepy to me.

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Yeah, I mean it is, but I think creepy cool.

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Yeah.

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That's probably where I get a lot of my fascination

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with like bones and dead animals and yeah, keeping them around.

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This is like your origin story kind of. We're learning

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so much about you combining Christmas in creepy. It's my

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favorite thing, my two favorite holidays.

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Hello, please enter Tim Burton, sir.

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So, I'm actually going to talk to my grandma and

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my dad about the Christmas Tree Farm. And I have

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a couple of questions for them because since I don't

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really remember a ton, so I want to know what

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they know, like if they have any spookey stories about

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the place or just an any fun things in general

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about working on Christmas Tree Farm, because they remember it

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so much better than I do.

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Yeah, I have to imagine.

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I have a piece of male you do from the

480
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:16.799
po box.

481
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.920
Yeah, oh okay, we open it.

482
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.519
Yeah, I don't know what it is, but I do

483
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:23.759
know who it's from.

484
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:30.839
Who's it from? It's from Sam, Sam, the one we

485
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.400
were just talking about. Nope, difference.

486
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:39.119
Then, oh my gosh, this is so cute.

487
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.559
Okay, So this is like a little kind of Christmas

488
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:46.400
card and it says on the back it's got the

489
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:51.240
writing to explain, which is like all of my family

490
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:51.599
does that.

491
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:53.640
I feel like a lot of people do that.

492
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:56.839
Oh, like what the picture is? Yes, a year and

493
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:57.359
who it is?

494
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:03.359
Sam at or in Vortex before two thousand and eight.

495
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:10.519
Oh, I love had the vourtext. Dude, that is so cool.

496
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.680
You have to send me a picture of that close up? Yeah?

497
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:14.160
I would.

498
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:15.119
I love that.

499
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.000
Isn't that fun? Thank you for sending that, Sam. I

500
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:19.440
love that.

501
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.319
We got a Christmas card y'all.

502
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.000
Were you gonna do a Christmas one?

503
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:28.799
Yeah? Okay, so spoilers for everyone who might hear this.

504
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:33.279
This is so fucking weird because it's not a Christmas

505
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.920
tree farm, but my next episode has to do with

506
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:43.799
Christmas trees. Whoa that is weird? Yeah, spooky.

507
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.279
We had no idea what we were going to talk about.

508
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.200
No, because I think at one point you may have mentioned,

509
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.880
just like in passing that like your family like had

510
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.440
a Christmas tree farm. But I don't think I knew that,

511
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.839
like you ever worked out there any I don't think

512
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.960
I knew any of that. Yeah, and we never really

513
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.000
coordinate on our topics. You know, we don't have to

514
00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:08.200
because we talk about different things and were likely praize

515
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:09.200
each other most of them.

516
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.759
Yeah, most of the time. You'll still be surprised.

517
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:19.079
That's so cool. I know, weird, right, Wow, Okay, I

518
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:23.920
have questions for you. Okay, date your name, date of birth.

519
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:24.799
No, I'm just kidding.

520
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.720
This is my grandma Sandy, and.

521
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.000
I love her very much.

522
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:32.480
Oh, I love you too.

523
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.359
So I have some questions for you. Need to clarify

524
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:39.079
some things for the people. Because I was very young.

525
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.440
So is it true that I used to work on

526
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:43.440
a Christmas tree farm?

527
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:44.359
Yes? It is.

528
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:46.400
You did a great job.

529
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:47.160
Oh, thank you.

530
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.519
How old was I do you remember?

531
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.279
I believe you were when you started up there helping us?

532
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:54.920
You were eight?

533
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:56.000
Eight?

534
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:57.240
Wow.

535
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.839
I have memories of like surveying people hot chocolate, yes,

536
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.720
and working in the little like gift shop.

537
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:07.480
Yes.

538
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:12.880
And there's ornaments everywhere, and just Christmas merch and things

539
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.599
that you made, right, you made wreaths.

540
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.799
And stuff we made. I made wreaths. We also had

541
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:19.680
Santa Claus.

542
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:20.880
Yes, Santa.

543
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:25.319
You helped us with decorating four trees each year. We

544
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.599
picked the ugliest trees that we could find so that

545
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.960
we could prove to people that every tree can be

546
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:33.599
beautiful at Christmas time.

547
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.279
Really, I don't remember that at all.

548
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.960
That was probably your favorite thing to do, Oh, decorate

549
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:42.559
the trees.

550
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.680
Why don't I remember that you were young, because now

551
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:51.519
I look back and I'm like, man, that was so magical.

552
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.839
I also remember like taking people on tours to go

553
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:57.880
see all the animals.

554
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:02.559
Right, we had a little pet and my sons and

555
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.799
I would go to the auction and again we'd pick

556
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.400
out the ones that looked homeless, that nobody else want,

557
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.440
my God, and we brought them up. And there were

558
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.680
so many people we averaged between three thousand and thirty

559
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.039
five hundred people a year wow at the tree farm

560
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:22.000
during those weeks.

561
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:23.400
That's so cool.

562
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.119
And a lot of people that grew up here in

563
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.920
the city had never been around a lot of these animals,

564
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.359
so for them it was it was fun. The kids

565
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:45.920
enjoyed it. We had everything from chickens, ducks, rabbits, to EMUs, sheep, goats, calves.

566
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.759
When it came time to bottle feeding the little ones,

567
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.720
we lent the children help us.

568
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.240
Oh did I ever do that?

569
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:56.759
Yes?

570
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:57.559
Oh?

571
00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:58.960
Yes.

572
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.759
We had one calf that you really fell in love with,

573
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.920
and you always went a bottlefeed, whether it was time

574
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:06.319
or not.

575
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.200
Like now she's hungry, and I had to explain.

576
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.079
To you that we couldn't give hot chocolate to the.

577
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:14.240
Caf Oh why not.

578
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.240
No, we had Hey writes.

579
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:24.519
We had a what started out as a just a

580
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.559
little fire pit to burn things in as we were

581
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.720
cleaning up when we first started, and each year we

582
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.599
would spread the rocks out and make it larger because

583
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.440
there were so many people that started coming up and

584
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:43.160
by the time we got done, mikel how big would

585
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:43.599
you say?

586
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.319
That firepit was big? Oh?

587
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.079
Yeah, my dad's here too. Hell his name is Mike.

588
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:58.400
I'm Families would come to you worked at one of

589
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.960
the sliding windows in the front.

590
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:01.720
Yeah, I remember that.

591
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.440
And they would come for their hot chocolate or their coffee,

592
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.640
and then we had other things that I loved, the cookies,

593
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.480
the hot dogs, and people would give them It's go

594
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:18.079
and stand around the fire. And the owner, I guess

595
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:21.039
you could say, was my father in law Bill. He

596
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.680
used to tell people, if you don't know anyone when

597
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.599
you get here, you'll know a whole large family when

598
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:26.960
you leave.

599
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:29.559
That's the way that it became.

600
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.960
People would get to know each other and friendships developed

601
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:36.000
standing around that fire.

602
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.559
I definitely remember. The fire pit was huge. That was

603
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:42.920
like central to the experience, right right.

604
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.160
So people would go out and cut their trees. The

605
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:51.680
hay wagon would go around the forty acres and they'd

606
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:55.559
get off and find their tree, and when the trailer

607
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.680
would come back around the tractor, they'd put the trees

608
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.799
on the trailer and then bring.

609
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:02.839
It back over cool.

610
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.480
So when they were really cold, they looked for that

611
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.719
second or third kipt hot chocolate or cop Yeah, the

612
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:10.960
girls always kept that going.

613
00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.920
Oh, that's so sweet. So the animal tours, is that

614
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.199
something you guys just did or did I just like

615
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.000
take over and like make that up.

616
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.679
Well, you spend half your time out there, and you

617
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.039
like to show the children of the animals, and you

618
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:32.280
named a lot of Oh, of course, of course you

619
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.360
were kind of our tour guide out there.

620
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:36.920
I was just wondering if that was like something that

621
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.360
you told me to do or if I just like

622
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:39.840
did it.

623
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:41.840
You pretty much took it on your own.

624
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.000
Oh okay, for your health.

625
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:48.239
At first, and you loved it. You loved being around

626
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:48.880
the animals.

627
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.639
Entrepreneur, you know, Okay, I have this vivid memory and

628
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.000
I don't know if it happened of the roll Off

629
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.880
family taking a picture with Santa and me like run

630
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.480
through and ruining their photo. Did this happen or did

631
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:06.920
I make this up? It happened. I ruined their Christmas photo.

632
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.599
I mean, I'm sure they retook it and everything, but

633
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.880
I just like lived my entire life thinking, oh my god,

634
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.639
I completely ruined their Christmas photo. They had no Christmas

635
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.039
photo that year because this little dumb kid like ran

636
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:24.079
through their photo.

637
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.239
And I actually had them a couple of times.

638
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.079
You loved it. You were so tired by the end

639
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.559
of the day that you were there bright and early

640
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.320
every morning to help me finished baking the cookies and

641
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:39.280
get them up there.

642
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.599
You had the biggest smile on your face all the time.

643
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.039
We missed it. Can we own a Christmas tree farm again?

644
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:49.360
Is that like something we can do?

645
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.159
You can?

646
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:55.480
Is it hard work?

647
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.320
Grandma's getting up there? Yes, yeah, it's her around.

648
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:06.320
You know, you're either tipping, topping, trimming trees, fertilizing, cutting grass,

649
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:07.119
cutting the.

650
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.519
Grass, planting new ones, the new ones.

651
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:10.880
Yeah, it's a lot of work.

652
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:16.199
But when you have a U cut Christmas tree firm,

653
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.440
and you see the joy that people and families are

654
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:25.039
having and it becomes a tradition in their family to

655
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.559
come up. And we've watched little babies grow up to

656
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.239
be you know, teenagers.

657
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.880
Yes, that's pretty great. I love that.

658
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.239
And having the Santa Claus there, that was great because

659
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.360
the kids would go in and they'd tell Santa what

660
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:43.880
they want for Christmas. And I remember once Santa he asked,

661
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.639
what would you like for Christmas? And she put her

662
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:50.239
hands on her hips and she goes anything but Barbie

663
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:54.239
and more Barbie cloathes. And the father turned and looked

664
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.400
at me and said, I need to go shopping again.

665
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.039
Oh no, Oh it was fun.

666
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.000
One young youngster, he could have been maybe seven eight

667
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:10.400
years old. They had moved into a new home and

668
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.199
he was so worried that Santa.

669
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.800
Wasn't gonna be able to find their home.

670
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.679
Oh, so he was getting stip by stip instructions to

671
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:19.719
get to their new home.

672
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.960
Yeah, in their old home. It was really cute.

673
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.000
It's very important.

674
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.119
Yes, Sana, Now did.

675
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.519
You get that?

676
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:33.960
We do?

677
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.599
We have a Santa's Helper actually right here. How how

678
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.960
does it feel to have helped Sanna out and pretended

679
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:43.559
to be him.

680
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:46.599
I think I need to bleed the fifth.

681
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.280
You were Sanna. Don't lie to the people, I mean

682
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.559
Santas helper helper.

683
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.719
Yes, well, it depends on which children he.

684
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:02.840
Asked, So you took a lot of requests, A lot

685
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.400
of requests. Had to deal with sticky smelling children all day.

686
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.360
I thought that must have been just a blast.

687
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.280
They had to probably deal with me more than anything.

688
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.519
How many they chased me around for a while? And

689
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.199
remember that, did.

690
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:19.159
You give out candy cans?

691
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:20.519
Candy canes?

692
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.400
How many candy canes do you think you gave out

693
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:23.519
in your sandt a lifetime?

694
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.079
Oh gosh, I wouldn't even be able to answer that.

695
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:27.239
A lot?

696
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.039
How many thousands.

697
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.360
Now kids deserved just one candy cane?

698
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.400
Oh so you spoiled them rotten, I see how it is.

699
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.760
I think my favorite memory was it's okay that came

700
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.880
up and asked me if I could make it snow.

701
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.000
Oh well, i'll tell you what. I got friends in places.

702
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.840
Let me see what I can do. And it wasn't.

703
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.920
An hour later it was almost a blizzard. What really

704
00:38:59.239 --> 00:38:59.960
was like America?

705
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:03.679
So you're the true Santa Claus to.

706
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.679
Me, give me a big old hug, thank you.

707
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:09.920
That's how the universe works.

708
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:15.679
Man was like the best ever, okay, And being out

709
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.039
there leaning all the kids around.

710
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:21.039
That's so funny. I just had ship to do.

711
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.440
You know, he needs a break right now, so you'll

712
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:25.639
be you'll be back.

713
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.159
Too. Yeah, my, but my brother was there, yes, sometime

714
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:32.880
he was four.

715
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.800
He started, Wow, we had the tree farm, what seventeen

716
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:38.400
years time?

717
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:41.840
Just subs by good times.

718
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:42.960
Okay.

719
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.760
So I have this memory and this was I think

720
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.000
during the off season.

721
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:49.199
It could have been fall, I'm not really sure.

722
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:54.239
And it was me and like probably Jody and Nikki

723
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.360
and Stacy like going across to the Christmas tree Farm

724
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.159
when no one was over there, you know, and just

725
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.960
like wandering around and we would explore the forest or whatever.

726
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.280
And I remember we found, uh, like a deer or

727
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.440
an elk head on a log out there, and it

728
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.599
was the spookiest thing I remember ever seeing. And I

729
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.639
just didn't I didn't know until you explained to me

730
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.880
that you when you want to keep like the bones

731
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.199
and stuff, you let the bugs eat the all the

732
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.039
meat or whatever and all the creatures so you.

733
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.119
Can just have the bones.

734
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.239
But I just thought it was the spookiest thing to

735
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:31.199
ever happen.

736
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.840
So this was real, right, Probably the elk passed through you.

737
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.199
Were on a farm out there, I mean there was

738
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:44.159
every now and then we'd find your horns or skulls. Yeah,

739
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:46.320
different animals.

740
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.840
But this was like just purposely placed on a log.

741
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.880
And I was like, oh, like you know, devil worship

742
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:52.440
or something.

743
00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:01.880
No. Yeah, elk migrated through and they'd go down. Do

744
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.440
you remember the pond down at the bottom the edge

745
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:06.519
of the property.

746
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:07.679
I kind of do.

747
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:09.280
They would go down.

748
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.519
There and that's where they'd stay, and then they'd pass

749
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:17.400
back through. Your Dad and I and up early one

750
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.719
morning it was before opening, and I'd fix coffee and

751
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.079
we were pouring our coffee and looking out the kitchen

752
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:31.320
window towards the pasture, and I would Mike, we don't

753
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:35.760
own that many horses, and the elk were in our

754
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.519
pasture out there with the horses were just running.

755
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:39.639
Around going nuts.

756
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:46.760
They were just grazing. But yes, they passed through twice a.

757
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:47.480
Year, Mike.

758
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:50.960
Sometimes just depends.

759
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.079
There was a migratory herd and there was a non

760
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:57.719
migratory her So the one the non migratory.

761
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:58.880
Would just do circles.

762
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.280
They as through the property quite a bit more often

763
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:03.199
than he realized.

764
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.000
The migratory herd would show up.

765
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.559
You know, I kind of group up all before you know,

766
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.840
the winter months, and they created a bunch of having

767
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:16.159
for the farmers. M I remember looking out across the

768
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:20.440
field when you know, across probably two miles away. I

769
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:25.440
could see the neighbors farm over there one year, and

770
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.000
the day before it was all green grass, all luscious,

771
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:33.840
you know, beautiful colored hillside. And I looked looked out

772
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.079
that day and seeing said, well, they must have plowed

773
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.039
their field. About the time I said that, the whole

774
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:40.119
hillside shifted.

775
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:40.679
Oh.

776
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.719
They were nothing I've ever.

777
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.800
Seen in my life. They got spook and took off.

778
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.239
But I was actually looking out a whole herd about

779
00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:52.360
from the distance that was, it looked like it was

780
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:53.800
like a freshly plowed field.

781
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.039
Wow, that's how many was out there.

782
00:42:56.280 --> 00:43:01.239
So people hunt out there always, Yeah, not so much anymore.

783
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:02.599
Most most is private.

784
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:09.119
But whose head? So whose deerhad was this that was

785
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:09.960
out there on the log?

786
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.800
Who knows we had? We had elkhorns to the entrance,

787
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:16.960
you know, hanging up above.

788
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.800
So that's why it was named elkhorn tree Farm.

789
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.039
Oh. I didn't even think to ask what it was called.

790
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:26.559
I didn't know what it was called.

791
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.280
That's hard for picking up horns that you know, they

792
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.960
had shed during this season started.

793
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:40.519
By Bill and Marge, Wilmine, and and and and sons

794
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:47.079
and you know, and grandsons and daughters, and there's everybody

795
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:50.840
fished in and did their part for a while and

796
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:52.840
had it going on for years.

797
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:53.920
You did your part.

798
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:55.159
Family farm.

799
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.159
It was family farm. It was family tree farm and nursery.

800
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:02.800
And it's not there anymore, right, Nope, nope, bumber.

801
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.480
Now there's three big mansions on the entire properties.

802
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.719
Of course, there's a great.

803
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.639
Vineyard back there, winery or something. I don't know, it's

804
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:13.199
been a while.

805
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.519
We have a total of eighty acres.

806
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:16.480
Wow.

807
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.480
So Prety puts on one side of the road where

808
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.239
are the horses in our home?

809
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.119
And then right across the where's the tree bar?

810
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:32.079
And that led into more you know, bile land land and.

811
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.360
Power lines and stuff back there, so we really didn't

812
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.800
have any neighbors on the backside.

813
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.559
It was yeah, nice place to grow up.

814
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.159
Yeah, I remember just wandering around everywhere in the forest.

815
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:46.840
You go out and be busy all day rolling.

816
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:50.480
Around, find our way back. Me who doesn't know directions,

817
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.079
would find her way back as a child from the forest.

818
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:54.239
I have no idea how.

819
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.719
You get that being lost from you and Caleb for me.

820
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.719
I do. That's where I got it from my grandma.

821
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:04.679
Yep, you do.

822
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:10.440
Mike, Jason, and Tim, we're constantly's saying, Mom, you missed

823
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:12.679
the turn. Where are we now?

824
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:15.480
I should be going the other.

825
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.239
Direction, going on an adventure.

826
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:19.599
Even when we traveled that year and a half, they

827
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:21.760
wouldn't even let me hold the map.

828
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.920
The answer was the same, we've never been down this

829
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.519
road before, and then see what's down here exactly?

830
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:30.920
You never know what you're gonna run into.

831
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.119
We decided to go the other way this time.

832
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.840
So I have to ask if anything scarier spooky happened anything.

833
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.079
Do you see any ghosts on the tree farm or

834
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:42.480
any cryptids?

835
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:43.119
Bigfoot?

836
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:44.519
Nothing?

837
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:45.960
Black bear?

838
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:47.239
Black bear?

839
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.880
Okay, well bear's a theme on my podcast.

840
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:51.119
You didn't know this, but.

841
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.280
No, we had black bears that can Wow.

842
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:56.519
Did you have to scare them off?

843
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:02.559
Or I only came across and it was more afraid

844
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.440
of me than it was than it was I mean,

845
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.239
it's it's scared the crap out of me.

846
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:11.360
You're sure it wasn't Bigfoot, That wasn't it.

847
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.320
No, I see him all the time further out Chill

848
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:16.400
National Forest.

849
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:19.920
Oh okay, we'll have to have you back on the

850
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:21.079
show and tell us about that.

851
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:23.480
Get a few stories for you.

852
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:24.800
Okay.

853
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.000
So there's really no ghosts or anything creepy that happened

854
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:28.719
up in the woods.

855
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.480
It was just a magical place.

856
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:33.960
It was. I mean, I love that, but I'm also

857
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:35.280
slightly disappointed.

858
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.920
Sorry, we need to find that place.

859
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:49.400
The shadow guy in the at the tree Farm.

860
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.119
In the window of the shop, the upstairs, the old

861
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.239
the old shop that we built that used to be

862
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.280
the original homestead house.

863
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.679
Oh okay. So when I ask something spooky happened, y'all

864
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:04.119
say no. And then you're like, oh, well wait, there's

865
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:05.320
a shadow guys.

866
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:10.760
I forgot all about that.

867
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:12.480
You want Christmas to scary?

868
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:13.119
Okay?

869
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.079
Tell me we need okay, because in the in this

870
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.639
Christmas song, what's the one where they talk about scary

871
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:20.440
ghost stories.

872
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.119
We gotta tell sairy scary ghost stories at Christmas.

873
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:23.639
Okay. I was.

874
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.719
I was coming back from the from the tree farm

875
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.840
on the the shide of the road, heading back to

876
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:33.159
the house, and I was the only one on the property,

877
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:34.519
only one there.

878
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:36.760
And I got my big.

879
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:40.000
Mag light with me, mag light, mag light, the old

880
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.960
school flashlights, you know, and then and uh, I get

881
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.280
to the gate across the road, get to the gate,

882
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:51.400
and then somebody's up and upstairs standing in the window

883
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:57.519
of that old old house which is our shop, and

884
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:01.000
like right, and I yell, who's up there?

885
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:01.840
Who are you?

886
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.360
You know? And I headed for it and then I

887
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.960
got there pretty quickly. There's only one way you can

888
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.480
come down that place, and there stairwell in the back,

889
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:16.360
and that stairwell, nobody was there. I went straight upstairs

890
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:17.559
and nobody was there.

891
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.039
So it was a ghost for sure.

892
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.880
That was my spooky moment up there.

893
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:23.519
I love that.

894
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.119
Did you hear anything or answers?

895
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.360
Even went back to the gate and looked back up

896
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.599
to see if maybe there was something there that was

897
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.400
casting the shadows that maybe I saw.

898
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:35.719
There was nothing.

899
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:47.000
Thereat, the bats in the shape of a human, all

900
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:48.239
the sky puppies.

901
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:50.159
He was.

902
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.239
Mason was just really young. I think he was only

903
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:58.880
about four. And Tim and Mason started in there because

904
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:02.000
I put pumpkins inside and they were going to pick

905
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:06.800
up these pumpkins and walked in and I heard Tims

906
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:12.480
green like a girl there running out and stand there.

907
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:23.079
With the pumpkins. I love you, my uncle Tim. Scared

908
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:28.599
of fats who knew Wow, Okay, we're going to do

909
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:32.400
a moon oracle reading, just about think about the Christmas

910
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.159
tree farm and the stories you told, and just kind

911
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.079
of go through the deck and pick out a card

912
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:44.599
she's pulling. Okay, what did we get? Oh okay, we

913
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.159
got tranquility. Oh my gosh. Look there's a bunch of

914
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:50.280
trees on it. So it's like a crescent moon with

915
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.239
a bunch of trees and a bird on top. And

916
00:49:53.280 --> 00:50:00.320
it's called tranquility. And then I have an interpretation in

917
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:05.320
here that we're going to read. There's a quote and

918
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.639
it says the mind is like water. When it's turbulent,

919
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.239
it's difficult to see. When it's calm, everything becomes clear.

920
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.039
That's kind of interesting because right now we're sitting in

921
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.920
my car and it's downpouring and it's like a flood warning.

922
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:22.039
That's pretty funny.

923
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:28.519
The keywords are calmness, meditation, and healing. Use the powerful

924
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:30.719
realm of your mind to bring you into a state

925
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.039
of tranquility. Only you can do this for yourself. Allow

926
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:38.199
peacefulness to replace any negativity trying to harbor inside of you.

927
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.719
Choose to plant loving thoughts in your mind and banish

928
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:45.920
all negative energy from taking hold. This process does not

929
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:46.719
take practice.

930
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:48.800
Oh wait, just kidding.

931
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:53.519
This process does take practice. So please do not become discouraged.

932
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.800
Let light into your life little by little, or pull

933
00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:01.480
the blinds wide open. Guard yourself diligently against harmful energy.

934
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:04.960
Try your utmost to avoid any darkness.

935
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:11.679
Yesterday, I mean I was living. Yeah, this morning, I

936
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:16.159
gotta Okay, you need to stop. Yeah, only you can

937
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:22.320
change what's happening. So I'm tired of negativity. Yeah, and

938
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.079
so I decided today I was going to go forward.

939
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.000
Oh well, it sounds like it's a good thing. It

940
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:29.559
sounds like the cards are telling me.

941
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:30.000
To do that.

942
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:34.400
Yeah, I know. I love how the cards work.

943
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:40.360
Seek out methods to promote your positive mindful tranquility, meditation, yoga,

944
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.039
self help books, maybe useful practices and tools, but it

945
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.519
sounds like just changing your mind, like a more positive

946
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:46.199
mindset is.

947
00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:47.000
What you're trying to do.

948
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.719
Infuse your being with love and light, Sit with your

949
00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.159
soul quietly, find inner peace.

950
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.199
I really like that too about the Christmas tree pun because.

951
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.719
You're saying, how like peaceful it was and nice and

952
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.239
it brings light and joy.

953
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.480
Yeah, a lot of work, Yeah, it was worth it.

954
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:10.039
Just watching those family Yeah, spending all the time with

955
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:12.440
our family doing it altogether.

956
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.840
Yeah, you girls.

957
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:15.519
Had a lot of fun.

958
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.000
Well, thank you. Thank you for letting us kids work,

959
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.519
you know, like you could have easily just made us

960
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:23.679
sit down and shut up.

961
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:24.320
Yeah.

962
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.800
Yeah on your TV.

963
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.719
Yeah. Kids need to stop doing that. They need to

964
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.039
stop spending so much time with their games and TV.

965
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.000
Yeah, and trust them with work. I mean, even if

966
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.239
they don't do it perfectly. I'm sure I did not

967
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:42.320
do it perfectly.

968
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:47.000
But Cassie, I've been working since I was thirteen years old.

969
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:48.199
Me too.

970
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:52.360
I'm a lot like you work wise and things life wise.

971
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.119
Dad always said, you just do what you have to

972
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.280
do to survive. It doesn't matter if you're rich or

973
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:03.440
you're poor. You just make just do it. So that's

974
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:07.039
why I'm working. Everybody's always just sit down. Don't you

975
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.440
ever just sit in There's things that need to be dead. Yeah,

976
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.239
time to sit down in the evening at the end

977
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:13.760
of the day.

978
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:19.519
Exactly got you to do running around? That's where I

979
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:24.840
get I think you like me running through someone's photos.

980
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:28.440
I was probably just trying to get to the next job. Like, well,

981
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.360
thank you so much for talking with me.

982
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:32.920
I love you, I love you too.

983
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:40.440
Have a creepy holiday season, and we'll see you next Thursday. Yeah,

984
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:46.159
on Christmas. I can't believe Christmas is the fucking week, dude, Like, bye,

985
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:47.239
Christmas is next week.

986
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.400
We're gonna do one more recording after this.

987
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.519
To like say goodbye, thank you.

988
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:56.719
I love you, I love you too. We're not done.

989
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:58.039
I'm gonna force you to do this again.

990
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:00.800
Why I want to hear stories?

991
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:03.159
Tell me too.

992
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:09.440
I love them stories. All of your stories, they're great.

993
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:10.800
Some of them you don't want to hear.

994
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.000
Oh no, those are the ones I'm so interested in.

995
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:16.559
Grandma used to be a cowgirl.

996
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:19.679
Yeah, like I feel like I'm going on roundups and ship.

997
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:21.320
Yeah, she has a lot of stories.

998
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.480
We're gonna have a whole Grandma Sandy podcast dedicated to

999
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:25.480
you in your story.

1000
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.920
Yes we are, We're doing it.

1001
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.480
Okay, we'll get it out of you.