The Implications Of Shopify's Bold Move to Block AI Shopping Bots | Fast Five Shorts
This week on the Omni Talk Retail Fast Five podcast, sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Simbe, Mirakl, and Ocampo Capital, we examine Shopify's proactive stance on AI agent regulation.
Shopify is drawing boundaries around agentic AI with new language in merchant websites' robots.txt files, stating "scraping, buy from me agents, or any end-to-end flow that completes payment without a final review step is not permitted." The move shows Shopify thinking ahead to protect its ecosystem while directing legitimate integrators to use official APIs.
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โฉ Topics Covered:
๐ 00:00 โ Headline Details
๐ 01:50 โ Understanding Shopify's robots.txt Changes
๐ 04:25 โ David Brown: Why This Is Great News
๐ 07:40 โ The Bot Problem in Concert Tickets & Restaurants
๐ 10:15 โ Boardroom Attention to Agentic AI
๐ 13:30 โ Chad Lusk on AI Risk Management
๐ 16:45 โ The Talent War for AI Skills
๐ 19:20 โ Chris Walton: Lobbying for Bot Regulation
๐ 22:10 โ Marketplace 2.0 Predictions
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Shopify's Stance on AI Agents
01:28 - Discussion on AI and Retail Strategies
03:40 - The Rise of Agentic AI in Retail
04:39 - The Role of AI in Decision Making
07:20 - The Evolution of Marketplace Dynamics
08:17 - The Costs of Data Scraping and Customer Engagement
Shopify is setting boundaries for AI agents on its merchant sites.
Speaker AAccording to modern retail, Shopify is drawing a line in the sand on agentic AI, the type of bots that autonomously complete tasks on their own without human inputs.
Speaker AWith new language across merchant websites that appears aimed at blocking agentic AI systems, Shopify now includes a warning in their code that powers merchant storefronts, telling bots what they can and can't do do.
Speaker AThe message appears in each site's robots.
Speaker ATxt file, a standard tool websites use to give instructions to automated crawlers like search engines.
Speaker AThe new line states, quote automated scraping buy for me agents or any end to end flow that completes payment without a final review step is not permitted.
Speaker AEnd quote.
Speaker AThe move, however, is not likely an outright rejection of a gentic AI.
Speaker AThe language direct.
Speaker AThe added language directs legitimate integrators to use its official checkout kit.
Speaker AIn other words, the change shows Shopify is thinking ahead, drawing early boundaries between controlled integration and unregulated automation.
Speaker AShopify merchants could theoretically override the robots.
Speaker ATxt file as Shopify is a content management system.
Speaker AIn other words, the change shows Shopify is thinking ahead, drawing early boundaries between controlled integration and unregulated automation.
Speaker ABut the default setting suggests the platform is trying to protect its ecosystem by discouraging unauthorized AI scraping and checkout information.
Speaker ADavid, we're going to ask you a more top level question here.
Speaker AI won't ask you about robots text files, but are retail boardrooms giving enough attention to agentic AI, or is Shopify ahead of the curve and trying to curve AI bot activity on its properties?
Speaker BSo a couple things here, Ann.
Speaker BOne, I think this is the best news I have heard this year from a shop.
Speaker BYeah, I'll tell you why, like if you try to book a reservation in New York City for any restaurant that's worth going to if you want the latest collab with Adidas and Bonner, or pick any collabs that are out when they drop, you want to try to buy concert tickets on the day of release, you can't do any of that anymore.
Speaker BAs a person that is sitting in front of a computer and waiting for 10am and then clicking.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt just doesn't happen.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause all of the bots have completely taken over.
Speaker BSo I actually think this brings some validity back to the online shopping experience and allows humans to participate, which I think is.
Speaker BWhich is a great thing.
Speaker BTo your broader question, I think boardrooms are starting to pay attention to agentic AI in a lot of different ways.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI think it's it's, it's very analogous to almost the outsourcing journey.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAs like we, you know, there's the commodity stuff you can do with, with agentic AI of data aggregation and, and things like that and you know, and like automating certain things or eliminating certain things.
Speaker BI think it's really tip of spear stuff and very few people are doing really cool pricing, personalization, merchandising stuff yet because they a.
Speaker BThe skill set is outrageously expensive to hire right now because there's not enough of it.
Speaker BSo you're only seeing kind of the largest players primarily in the tech space that are kind of really pushing the envelope.
Speaker BI don't, I think retailers are a step or two behind the curve, but I think they're starting to realize that they are a step or two behind the curve.
Speaker BAnd the next couple years are going to be interesting to see A, the talent war and then B, how that talent is deployed to help retailers.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AWell, certainly a reason I think, like you said, I thought this was one of the most intriguing stories that we had this week on the Fast five, but certainly something that, you know, is going to push hopefully more retailers to start putting more focus on this as a priority for them.
Speaker AChad, where do you, where do you sit on this?
Speaker AAre you, are you feeling like this is being talked about enough in boardrooms that you're sitting in?
Speaker CWell, I think there's probably lots of talk in boardrooms about agentic AI, but maybe not from the, I don't know, kind of ethical or, you know, perspective that Shopify is coming at it.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo, you know, it's about commerce maximization and I do think Shopify is ahead of the curve.
Speaker CCurve in terms of thinking about that activity.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CI mean this, this raises huge questions around enforceability and legal consent and E commerce.
Speaker CAnd personally, to me, I, I'm in all in favor for slow playing AI in places where AI decision making imposes risk.
Speaker CI mean, I, I love the idea of it.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CI mean the consequences of allowing AI free reign to, you know, make mistakes or, you know, whatever the ramifications, like it can cost a lot of money at the very least, piss a lot of people off.
Speaker CSo there is a spectrum in terms of, in its development how AI should be used in decision making.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd as David said, you know, the super repetitive, lower risk, quite frankly, if there's little for the human to add.
Speaker CYeah, let AI run wild.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CBut in these cases where either AI can err or it provides an imbalance in the market.
Speaker CSo either around what the AI will do, so it's a risk based decision or, you know, if there's something that a human can add to the decision or execution.
Speaker CSo more of a value based decision.
Speaker CWe need the human intervention at least until, you know, we're developed at that point.
Speaker CAnd Shopify is saying that's the case with agentic AI and frankly, I'm not going to push back on that.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, I think you make a really good point, Chad.
Speaker AAnd I think it just re emphasizes how important this is because I think we, we have to all be agile and ready to react and adapt our businesses to, you know, to be, you know, in a position to change if we need to based on how search is going to be happening.
Speaker AI mean, I think we look at how Amazon was doing this, you know, you, you could shop aloe yoga and buy a bra on Amazon even though they weren't in the, in the Amazon marketplace.
Speaker AI think it's going to be really important for all brands, all retailers to, to focus on how this is going to continue to shift and then how search behavior is going to shift as a result.
Speaker ABut Chris Walton, close us out.
Speaker DOh my God.
Speaker DYeah, I've got a lot of, a lot of thoughts on this one.
Speaker DI mean, I think, you know, if I look at, from the executive perspective, the first question I ask myself is why do we allow any of this?
Speaker DYou know, why do we allow bots to come in and scrape pricing?
Speaker DLike if I'm Walmart, why do I want my pricing out in, in the, in the, in the Internet sphere?
Speaker DLike, why does that, why do we allow that to happen?
Speaker DAnd so then I start thinking about the lobby efforts across the retail industry and I'm like, you know, we're spending all this time lobbying for credit card processing fees.
Speaker DWhy aren't we lobbying for regulation to, you know, limit bot activity or to control bot activity in some way, shape or form?
Speaker DSo that's one question.
Speaker DBut given that there's an absence of that, then the bigger question for me is how does what we're talking about evolve?
Speaker DAnd my gut tells me that the agentic AI platforms are going to start, it's going to become Marketplace 2.0 and those agentic AI platforms are going to get a cut of the revenue directed from those retailers that ultimately allow them to plug in simply and easily.
Speaker DIt won't be everybody, but it's going to be some of them.
Speaker DAnd so the task list for me, if I'm a CEO or, you know, I'm in that boardroom trying to say how do I do this?
Speaker DIs I have to ask myself what am I okay with getting scraped?
Speaker DAnd what am I not okay with getting scraped?
Speaker DLike do I want agentic agents on my site checking out for someone without my, without that customer ever entering into my property?
Speaker DMy, my guess is they, a lot of people probably don't.
Speaker DSo then it comes down to what's it going to cost for me to prevent certain information from getting transmitted that way?
Speaker DI don't know the answer to that.
Speaker DI don't even know if it's even possible.
Speaker DBut those are the discussions you've got to start outlining what are we okay with, what are we not and then go from there.
Speaker DIn my opinion.
Speaker AYeah, and not just the, the economic costs, but what are the costs if the customer can't purchase?
Speaker ALike are you going to see a reduction in shop in customers spend or awareness of your product if you're not allowing that activity too?
Speaker DYou don't get the first party data, you don't get anything that you're used to getting.
Speaker DThere's a lot of costs that come with allowing sites or bots to scrape you in ways that you're not ready for.