Target's Rural Expansion Plan - Experts Call It a "Strategic Disaster" That Shouldn't Have Happened
Target's $Billion Rural Gamble - Why Experts Say It's Doomed to Fail
Target drops a bombshell expansion strategy that has retail experts in complete agreement - for all the wrong reasons. A former Target executive who actually ran rural stores delivers devastating firsthand insights.
Key Moments:
0:00-1:07 - Target's massive rural expansion: 300 stores, 75% to 90% market coverage goal
1:08-2:40 - Chris Disa's measured take: Location-specific success vs. systemic strategy flaws
2:41-4:40 - Michael's scathing critique: "Should never have made it out of C-level meetings"
4:41-5:55 - Why modern Walmart beats Target at their own game in rural markets
5:56-7:30 - Former Target executive Chris Walton's shocking revelation: Rural stores do 50% less volume
7:31-9:15 - The Dollar General problem and why rural markets don't need Target
9:16-10:06 - Michael's final verdict: Focus on "what we can control" instead of "bright shiny objects"
A unanimous expert panel demolition of what could be retail's biggest strategic blunder.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:02 - Target's New Expansion Strategy
01:06 - Target's Expansion Strategy: Rural Markets and Challenges
04:01 - The Challenge of Competing with Walmart
06:12 - Target's Strategic Challenges
08:02 - Transitioning to Retail Strategies
09:34 - Target's Strategic Focus
Wrap this show up.
Speaker AIt's already been so great.
Speaker ATarget has unveiled a new small town store expansion strategy.
Speaker AAccording to Modern Retail, the Minneapolis based company is increasingly focusing on full size store development in smaller markets in rural communities, a departure from its previous emphasis on small format urban locations that dominated its expansion narrative from 2016 to 2021.
Speaker AAlmost all of Target's plan stores are set to exceed 100,000 square feet, supporting the company's quote stores as hubs quote fulfillment strategy that has become central to its omnichannel operations since 2017.
Speaker ATarget's growth ambitions remain robust with plans to open approximately 300 new, predominantly full size stores over the next decade.
Speaker AThe retailer opened 23 locations in 2024 and has scheduled about 20 new openings for 2025, according to its most recent annual report.
Speaker AWell, Target already reaches roughly 75% of Americans within a 10 mile radius.
Speaker AAs CEO Michael Fidelke noted in March, this still trails Walmart's impressive 90% proximity metric.
Speaker AChristisa, we're going to go to you first on this.
Speaker ADo you agree that Target will find profitable growth by expanding into rural markets?
Speaker AI know you have a hot take on this one yourself.
Speaker BSo as bullish as I was about target 360, I think the jury's out for me on this one.
Speaker BI think a couple things that I've been thinking about.
Speaker BOne is, you know, when you think about, you know, store expansion, you know, specifically Target in rural markets, it really for me is location specific.
Speaker BDoes a Target store fill the need for a consumer in that market or is it another Choice to Walmart, etc.
Speaker BNow if they're looking at it to say, okay, this is going to be a superstore and we can pull inventory and speed up our fulfillment in some of these markets because we all know that fulfillment times are lower or they're slower, I should say, for some of these customers, then that could be a really good thing.
Speaker BBut again, it really comes down to each market, each specific market and what is the real need.
Speaker BYou know, funny story, you know, Kmart, I don't know if you guys know this.
Speaker BOne of the last stores was in the Hamptons, you know, at the eastern end of Long Island.
Speaker BAnd now Target is actually filling the space.
Speaker BSo while affluent, it is also, it is also rural.
Speaker BSo as I think about, you know, yacht rock and white pants, et cetera, going into Memorial Day, I know a bunch of people out there are very in rose.
Speaker BI know a bunch of folks and consumers are super excited that Target is coming to fulfill that need.
Speaker BBut again, that is a market specific opportunity that may not translate across the country.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AMichael, what about you?
Speaker CYeah, I think this is another one that I, it probably didn't come up in the innovation lab Target but it probably should have never made it out of the C level strategic planning meetings and or approve approval for the spend by the board.
Speaker AGive us your reasons.
Speaker CYeah, the challenge I have with this is I like, I like Chris's example of a Target going in near the Hamptons but clearly that's not very rural.
Speaker CThe rural markets are a challenge and all you got to do for the template of the challenge is look at Dollar Tree.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CI mean that story has been written, the outcome is written and it's not successful.
Speaker CI also think Target is best when they are sort of the antidote to Walmart.
Speaker CLike when Target is Walmart need Target, you have Walmart and Walmart is fantastic at it.
Speaker CTarget has always been a step, maybe two, maybe three above Walmart.
Speaker CIt's still sort of similar but it's always been going back to the ads in the, the early 2000s.
Speaker CTarget, not target.
Speaker CSo it was a great access point but it provided a different experience in my opinion than Walmart.
Speaker CSo if they're looking to expand and if you read between the lines that's basically what they're saying is we want to go more head to head with Walmart.
Speaker CI think that's a strategic error.
Speaker CThey need to really separate themselves, do what they do best and is putting a Target in a rural market and I think of a place where we go on vacation sometimes in the summer up in rural Maine there's a dollar general.
Speaker CAre they going to put a Target near there?
Speaker CThat's never going to work.
Speaker CSo I think it's really, it's interesting but without a well thought out plan and to Chris's point, very strategic placement in demographic areas that can support it.
Speaker CIt's not going to work.
Speaker AYeah, I would agree with you Michael.
Speaker AIf we were talking old Target, I think now you have to look at current Target and when you put it up against a Walmart I don't think it provides the same like Walmart's come so far and improved.
Speaker AIt's especially the new locations of Walmarts that they're going to be building as well in these rural communities like their, their store formats I think are comparable and if not better than Target.
Speaker APlus I think you hit a lower price point.
Speaker AIt gets back to what we talked about in the first headline of you know, you're going to get the everyday low price at Walmart.
Speaker AAnd, and there's no way Target can beat Walmart on price.
Speaker AAnd so what, what are you left with for the shopping experience?
Speaker AAnd I tried to even go to like, to the, yes, maybe they could just build store fulfillment centers or something in these areas to just hit on faster delivery.
Speaker ABut, but you have Amazon coming in and doing rural delivery too and everybody knows Amazon already too.
Speaker ASo I think, I think Target's in a, in a tough space here.
Speaker AAnd I also wonder if this isn't a bit of a PR play as well, like if they're going to these based on all of the, the footfall drop that they saw from a lot of the DEI initiatives.
Speaker AI also wonder if this isn't saying, okay, we're going to go and try to penetrate a new market here, but Chris, Chris Disa, you got something to throw in?
Speaker BI will say they're, they're adding, their desire is to add 300 stores, which is a 15% increase.
Speaker BIf we were talking 50 stores in select locations that, you know, services in need, all four, but you know, 300 stores is quite bullish in my opinion.
Speaker ATotally agree.
Speaker AChris Walton, close us up.
Speaker AWhat's the, what's your thought here?
Speaker DYeah, I've been on my edge of my seat waiting to chime in on this.
Speaker DI think I actually have, I think I actually have firsthand experience that's pretty applicable for sure to this discussion.
Speaker DYou know, you know, I, and the reason I say this, I ran, I actually was in charge of the stores in Scotts Bluff, Nebraska and Casper, Wyoming, and they were some of the lowest volume stores at Target.
Speaker DAnd so to Chris's point, if you're going to build 300 of these, there just aren't that many locations that are going to pencil.
Speaker DAnd I can tell you without giving anything away, the volume of those stores is like 50% of what an average target, at least 50% less than what an average Target store is going to be.
Speaker DAnd, and to your point, I think everyone nailed this.
Speaker DLike, you know, Walmart's already there.
Speaker DWalmart's better than it's ever been.
Speaker DAmazon is going there too.
Speaker DAnd so for delivery, like if that's why you're building these, why would you build stores just for delivery hubs like that Seems like a really expensive proposition.
Speaker DTarget Tractor Supply is also there.
Speaker DSo how does Target win this, how does Target win this battle?
Speaker DYou know, that will return the capital that Wall street requires, given the historical performance of Target at a time when the cost of capital is also more expensive than it has been in years past.
Speaker DSo I absolutely don't get this.
Speaker DIt's, it's just another sign of just how lost strategically target is right now.
Speaker DWhich Michael said right at the outset, like this is a discussion.
Speaker DThis is just a pivot that should never have gone past anyone.
Speaker DLike.
Speaker DAnd yeah, the city targets didn't work.
Speaker DNo, no.
Speaker DCrap.
Speaker DWe all knew that going into.
Speaker DBecause you can't build enough of those at a, at a rate that's going to have meaningful comp growth either.
Speaker DThere just aren't that many locations in the US where that's going to play out either.
Speaker DBut they were, they were lined up on that strategy for five or six, you know, 10 years almost.
Speaker DCornell's been there since 2014.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker DSo when do they get some really concrete growth strategies here?
Speaker DAnd I mean I've been ran on this for the hopefully this pulpit forever.
Speaker DLike, come on, this is not it.
Speaker AHopefully the acceleration team, that's that they talked about in the earnings call this morning.
Speaker AIt's all down to the acceleration team, Chris.
Speaker AAcceleration move forward.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker AMan.
Speaker DI feel, and I feel, I feel vindicated by that too.
Speaker DAnd because that I've been saying that this was going to happen for a year and a half now when we had the annual Review show in 2023 with the a and M folks and, and it has happened.
Speaker DBut I can tell you like, you know, before you announce this, go into the store in Scott's Bluff and see if you want to, you know, replicate that model throughout the country.
Speaker DLike get off, get out of the corporate boardroom and see if that's the model that you think is really going to work.
Speaker DI don't know.
Speaker CBut yeah, I mean, look, retail 101 that is like really, really proven is that these X O market stores or smaller stores struggle.
Speaker CSo every major retailer expands and then spends years trying to get out of the leases to shut the not profitable doors.
Speaker CThey're now saying we want to open 300 of these types of stores.
Speaker CSo number one, that's, that's doa.
Speaker CNumber two, the other one that we didn't talk about is Dollar General.
Speaker CDollar General has these markets figured out they are growing their grocery business as well.
Speaker CNow that's much to the not, you know, whatever.
Speaker CThey're just growing their grocery business.
Speaker CSo like what do these markets really need a Target for?
Speaker CAnd I, I think the last thing that Target absolutely needs to do and if we were working with them or if I was the CEO, I would say let's focus on ourselves.
Speaker CLet's stop like these bright, shiny object things.
Speaker CWhat do we need to do to be the best that we can be in our own four walls with what we have today and what we can control?
Speaker CAnd because it doesn't feel like they're doing that, and I think that's a huge miss on their part.
Speaker AOh, you guys.
Speaker DYou would get my vote.
Speaker DMichael.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker DHonestly, you can't do.
Speaker DNo, I don't think anyone could do a worse job, quite honestly, but you would get my vote.