Kroger's New E-Commerce Unit – Smart Move or Eventual Disaster?
In the latest edition of Omni Talk’s Retail Fast Five, sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Simbe, Infios and Ocampo Capital Chris Walton and Anne Mezzenga discuss how Kroger is betting big on e-commerce—but is its strategy already flawed? In this segment, brought to you by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Simbe, Mirakl, Ocampo Capital and Infios, Chris and Anne debate Kroger’s controversial decision to separate online operations into a standalone unit, question the leadership choice, and unpack whether this sets Kroger up for success—or disaster.
(0:03) – Kroger forms new e-commerce business unit
(0:11) – Yael Cosset promoted to EVP and Chief Digital Officer
(0:32) – Kroger CEO Ron Sargent emphasizes digital growth
(0:56) – Should e-commerce be a separate division?
(1:46) – Why this goes against omnichannel best practices
(2:53) – Is Kroger stuck in the sunk cost trap with Ocado?
(3:54) – Concerns over leadership structure and priorities
(6:07) – Are digital sales underperforming despite the investment?
(7:14) – Final thoughts: too many risks, not enough clarity
Don’t miss this deep dive into a major retail shakeup—and what it could mean for the future of grocery e-commerce. For the full episode head here: https://youtu.be/K-LainhQQyY
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Kroger is launching a standalone e commerce business unit.
Speaker AYou heard it right.
Speaker AAccording to Grocery Dive, Kroger has formed a business unit centered on its online operations and promoted its Chief information officer to head the new team.
Speaker AThe supermarket chain announced.
Speaker AThe group brings together the personnel, quote, contributing to every aspect of the online customer experience.
Speaker AEnd quote.
Speaker AFor Kroger.
Speaker AYale Cosset, who previously served as the company's Chief Digital officer before becoming Senior vice president and CIO of Kroger in 2019, will lead the e commerce unit as Executive Vice President and Chief Digital officer.
Speaker AKroger Chairman and newly appointed CEO Ron Sargent said in a statement, quote, accelerating Kroger's e commerce growth is a top priority.
Speaker AAs the architect of Kroger's digital strategy, Yale will continue to make it easier for customers to shop our fresh, affordable food.
Speaker AEnd quote.
Speaker AChris, I got a two parter double header for you.
Speaker ATwo parter Number one, do you agree with Kroger's decision to create a standalone e commerce unit?
Speaker AAnd number two, you're getting the A and M put you on the spot question, which is, oh, it seems like this formal organization of Kroger's e comm business is long overdue, especially with the ocado struggles.
Speaker AWhat do you think this says?
Speaker AThat they put their chief information officer atop it versus an operational leader?
Speaker APlease.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker ADazzling.
Speaker BNice delivery on that one too.
Speaker BAnd get this show started off right.
Speaker BAll right, man, I, I'm going to come out hot on this one.
Speaker BAnd I think my Buddy Carl on LinkedIn who messaged me about this story, you know, I have two friends named Carl on, you know that with KS2, which is just random Carl.
Speaker BBut anyway, I'm coming out hot.
Speaker BI'm coming out of the gates hot on this one.
Speaker BAnd first off, I, I don't like this move at all.
Speaker BAnd secondly, to get to the A and M question, I don't agree.
Speaker BI don't agree that the premise of this move is long overdue.
Speaker BI don't agree with the premise that this move is long overdue either.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BOkay, Yeah, I do, 100%.
Speaker BI say that for a couple of reasons.
Speaker BSo one, this flies in the face of whatever you want to call it, good omnichannel, unified commerce, whatever the heck the buzzword is harmonized retail shout out to Steve Dennis.
Speaker BIt flies in the face of that.
Speaker BIt just does, as you know.
Speaker BAnd this is coming from someone who piloted an Omni Channel organization structure at Target to help them develop their omnichannel approach, an approach that others Sense like Walmart have adopted.
Speaker BSo I can tell you firsthand, this is really the only way to go.
Speaker BBecause doing it, doing it the opposite way with a standalone division creates all kinds of disjointed problems in the organization.
Speaker BSo just.
Speaker AAnd priorities.
Speaker BYeah, yes, right.
Speaker AEverything.
Speaker BPriorities, Everything.
Speaker BLike, yes, focus.
Speaker BYou start getting turf battles, everything.
Speaker BSo strategically, I just fundamentally disagree with the organizational approach.
Speaker BBut second, I think there's another big issue here and that it's that I worry that Kroger is falling into what I call what what many would call the sunk cost trap.
Speaker BThey made the big Ocado investment.
Speaker BThey don't appear to have gotten the return that they wanted.
Speaker BSo now they're throwing good money after bad and good people after bad.
Speaker BSo it's a classic case from the first year of business school of what not to do because you're doubling down on trying to fix the mistakes of your past.
Speaker BWhich also explains why they're putting someone that they trust with a good track record to try to fix it.
Speaker BBut to A and M's question, how much.
Speaker BHow much can a digital guy fix what is essentially a piece, that being Ocado, of a much larger puzzle for how Kroger gives its consumers what they want.
Speaker BSo this move, you know, net.
Speaker BNet, particularly in the absence of a former CEO or the absence, there's, you know, they just had to get rid of their CEO, so guy in place.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BIt seems like, I mean, this seems like it could be the start of a dumpster fire.
Speaker BTo be honest.
Speaker BI just don't get this at all.
Speaker BAnd, But I don't know.
Speaker BWhat do you think?
Speaker BTalk me off the leg.
Speaker ANo, I'm not going to talk you off the.
Speaker AChris.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BBecause you're not going to be my balance.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker ABecause this to me felt like a move that you would make in 1999.
Speaker ALike the, the real problem for me in this, in this whole story is every aspect of the online customer experience.
Speaker ALike, yeah, that's the problem here.
Speaker AIt should.
Speaker AI don't think we can think in channels like this anymore.
Speaker AI mean, that's the whole point of this move towards unified commerce.
Speaker ALike people aren't just doing.
Speaker ANo, no consumer of Kroger is just shopping online or just shopping in store.
Speaker AIt's about the total experience and the success of any of these grocery businesses depends on a strategy that's focused on, you know, meeting the customer at all these touch points.
Speaker ASo I think it's.
Speaker AIt just seems strange.
Speaker AThe other thing that I would add is Yale has been in this role at Kroger.
Speaker AHe's done a tremendous job, but look at all the stuff that he has underneath him, too.
Speaker AOh, go ahead.
Speaker BNo, no, you keep going.
Speaker BNo, you got.
Speaker BNo, I'm right with you.
Speaker BYou keep going.
Speaker AYeah, like, he's in charge of retail media, 8451, insights and content, financial services, personal finance.
Speaker ALike, how I get that you have to ladder up and there's people that are underneath him.
Speaker ABut again, this just seems like way too many competing priorities.
Speaker AAnd especially when you throw things like retail media and like, insights and content and financial services into the mix, like, those are huge sources of revenue for Kroger and for any future that Kroger has.
Speaker AAnd so I feel like this is, this is just asking too much of one person.
Speaker AAnd in a way that just exactly like you said, Chris, like, there's too many competing interests, priorities.
Speaker AAnd I don't know how you set Yale up here for success, but it just, it seems like the, the totally wrong way to be thinking about it.
Speaker AAnd especially given, you know, coming out of all of the news that's happened to Kroger, with the CEO leaving, the failed merger with Albertsons, like, it just feels like a place where they're, they're just like, putting all their faith in Yale and not setting them up for success.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd what I was going to say, what you got me thinking about too, is like, I actually, there's a little bit from this story that actually makes me question how well Yale is actually done in his job too.
Speaker BBecause if you think about, if you think about meeting the needs of the omnichannel consumer, right?
Speaker BThere's the front end side of it and there's the back end side of it.
Speaker BThe back inside of it clearly hasn't been working.
Speaker BBut you're saddled with a big investment that you made where the infrastructure is the infrastructure.
Speaker BSo there's only so much you can do about that.
Speaker BSo then you get, then you start to say to yourself, okay, was it not working because they haven't marketed right, or they don't have the experience, right.
Speaker BTo, to get the volume they need to make the investment pay off in the way that they want.
Speaker BSo, so it's one of those, you know, it's one of those two things.
Speaker BAnd so like, if it's the, if it's the latter, then you're like, well, wait a second, is this the guy, the right guy to run it?
Speaker BIf they haven't been able to figure out the marketing and the front end experience of this to make it work and to get it in the consumer, because they've tried these online only plays in markets, and they've had to shut those down.
Speaker BThey've had to close facilities.
Speaker BSo for some reason, they're not getting.
Speaker BEven though they're talking about how much their digital volume is growing, it's not growing to the extent that they actually want to make this, the Cardo investment, pay off in the way that they want in the right areas of the country.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BSo there's just so much going on here, which makes this story so bizarre to me.
Speaker AYeah, I totally agree.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean.
Speaker AOh, good luck to you, Kroger team.
Speaker AI don't know what else to say at this point.
Speaker BYeah, it sounds like, I mean, God, they got to get somebody in there quick now because this could just blow up in their face here over time.