Inside Walmart’s integration with ChatGPT | Fast Five Shorts
This Omni Talk Retail Fast Five segment explores Walmart’s integration with ChatGPT and what it reveals about the current state of AI commerce.
Chris Walton and Jenna DeFranco break down why AI-powered checkout is underperforming and where the real opportunity lies.
They also debate whether AI should focus more on discovery than transactions.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:24 - Walmart's New In-Store App Experience
01:10 - The Shift in AI Commerce Strategy
02:18 - The Future of Commerce: Agentic vs. Traditional
04:27 - Exploring the Utility of ChatGPT in Online Shopping
04:50 - The Impact of AI on Retail Experiences
05:30 - Final Thoughts and Transition to the Lightning Round
Walmart has debuted an in store app experience inside ChatGPT, backed by its Sparky commerce agent.
Speaker AAccording to Retail Dive, the revamped walmart experience inside ChatGPT keeps the entire transaction on Walmart's own infrastructure.
Speaker AUsers log into their Walmart account, their baskets sync across the Walmart app, website and chatgpt, and checkout happens through Walmart, not through OpenAI.
Speaker AThat's the key point here.
Speaker AThe move also follows a frank admission from Walmart's EVP Daniel Danker that OpenAI's instant checkout was, quote, unsatisfying.
Speaker AThat's a big omission because conversion rates for products sold directly inside the chatbot were running three times lower than for products that required clickout to Walmart's own site.
Speaker AOh boy.
Speaker AWalmart, it should be noted, had made approximately 200,000 products available inside ChatGPT via instant checkout since November.
Speaker ABut the feature struggled with accuracy because product availability, estimated delivery times and shipping costs were often wrong because OpenAI was scraping Walmart's site rather than connecting to live inventory data.
Speaker ASurprisingly lot here folks.
Speaker ASurprisingly.
Speaker AOpenAI said it is also ending instant checkout in its current form.
Speaker ANot surprised.
Speaker AAnd expanding its agentic commerce protocol, AKA the ACP that everyone keeps talking about, to focus on product discovery while giving merchants full control of their own checkout experience.
Speaker AWow, that is a big shift to what we had been talking about previously on old shows.
Speaker AAll right Jenna, Walmart pretty much just admitted that conversion rates inside its AI inside AI chatbots like OpenAI are three times lower than when people go to their own site.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ABut do you as a user find any value in a self contained GPT experience?
Speaker AAnd producer Ella, get ready too because I want to bring you in on this one as well.
Speaker ABut Jenna, what do you think first?
Speaker BYeah, I think this actually validates what a lot of us suspected, at least I have is people don't necessarily want to complete transactions inside of AI and I'm one of those.
Speaker BDiscovery yes, checkout not really.
Speaker BAnd a three times lower conversion rate is pretty telling.
Speaker BI think from a user perspective I don't see the huge advantage.
Speaker BIf I'm ready to buy, I trust the retailer's app and site more anyways and it feels like an extra step depth versus a better experience.
Speaker BSo I think what this really signals is we're still very early in an agentic commerce.
Speaker BThis is more about search evolution than transaction evolution.
Speaker BBut I think it's smart for Walmart to test and learn.
Speaker BI just, I think the real opportunity is owning the experience end to end.
Speaker BAnd really it's don't outsource the last mile of conversion.
Speaker AYeah, I, I agree with you.
Speaker AThis one is this, this whole world and landscape is just really, it's conversation.
Speaker AIt's confounding to me in terms of how it's starting to play out, because I think it, there's a number.
Speaker AI agree with everything you said and the things that I thought about when I read this article is number one, which I think is important to say.
Speaker AThe world of truly agentic commerce, where you're having an agent doing the shopping for you, is really far out.
Speaker ALike, we can't even get checkout right, you know, right now, folks.
Speaker ASo and so that tells me that really what we're talking about right now in the near term is we're looking at a shift in how search commerce is done.
Speaker ABecause I think that's what you're saying, Jenna, right?
Speaker ALike, yeah, I want to use ChatGPT to search for products, but then I want it to land me on the Walmart site because that's where I'm going to have confidence and, you know, I'll just check out through them.
Speaker AThe second thing it tells me, though, is I still have a lot of questions, as I did when Target did the same thing back in the holidays of putting the, if putting the app inside ChatGPT is the right move because, Jenna, like you said, it's disjointed.
Speaker AIf I want to ask the LLM to take me to Walmart, can I just as easily open the Walmart app on my phone and use Sparking within it?
Speaker ASo I don't really get the added value and that would probably just convert higher because I'm already intending to go to that Walmart app to begin with, so.
Speaker ASo I don't really get that unless it, you know, unless it can like filter everything out for me against Walmart and everyone else.
Speaker AIf I'm having to contain myself in the Walmart experience, that doesn't seem like it provides any utility to me, again, you know, provided what the LLMs are supposed to do.
Speaker ASo I don't.
Speaker AThe problem I have with this is I don't get what the incentive is other than just dipping your toes in the water.
Speaker AAnd I don't really see the value of the experimentation to dip your toes in the water.
Speaker AAnd so I would just, I would instead just probably focus on getting ready for the ACP and its improvements that happen once that comes about.
Speaker ABut I don't know.
Speaker AElla.
Speaker ABring you back in here, Jenna.
Speaker AI'M curious, like, how, how do you guys.
Speaker AHow are you actually using ChatGPT to shop?
Speaker AElla?
Speaker CYeah, well, a couple things here.
Speaker CI feel like I keep hearing retailers implementing their sites going directly into ChatGPT, but I personally have still yet to see it.
Speaker CFirst of all, like, I don't know where.
Speaker BHard to find.
Speaker CHard to find.
Speaker CI know Target, when that was a big headline, I could not find it to save my life.
Speaker CAnd I feel like going back to Shop Talk.
Speaker CChris.
Speaker CThere was a lot of talk about invisible AI and how the best rollout might just be making the user experience within your own site better because that's what people want.
Speaker CI mean, I agree, Jenna.
Speaker CWe're using Chat GBT for discovery and inspiration and trying to find, oh, I can compare this to this, and why would I buy this?
Speaker CAnd then ultimately going back to the site and making that final decision.
Speaker CSo I completely agree with both of you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd that's what I've always said on the show.
Speaker AI've always said, like, I would be focusing on bolstering natural language church on my own site before anything for that reason.
Speaker AI think that's right, Ella.
Speaker AI think we're getting to the answers here, you know, over the, over the past few months.
Speaker AJenna, any final thoughts here before we go to the lightning round?
Speaker BYeah, I mean, you mentioned, like, what's the point of it?
Speaker BI guess I could say there's, there's maybe something to early adoption for a company like Walmart.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker BAnd testing the waters a little bit.
Speaker BBut again, I think my bottom line is, is I trust the website and I don't know that I need it to be completely integrated that way.





