How Kendra Scott Is Using AI to Redefine Jewelry E-Commerce | KK Kandu at Shoptalk 2025
🎧 Personalized Joy at Scale: KK Kandu of Kendra Scott | Shoptalk 2025 Live
Kamanasish Kundu (aka "KK"), SVP & Head of Digital and E-Commerce at Kendra Scott, joins Omni Talk live from the Avalara podcast studio at Shoptalk 2025 to explore the art and science of emotional commerce. From building a nimble, test-driven culture to prepping for an AI-first future of intelligent shopping agents, KK lays out the future of digital retail for a personal brand in an evolving world.
📍 Timestamps:
(0:09) Welcome and intro to KK Kandu – recently promoted at Kendra Scott
(1:00) KK’s background: from electrical engineer to e-commerce leader
(1:58) What KK’s Shoptalk session is about: personalization that spreads joy
(2:54) Redefining personalization: it’s about anticipating needs and building connection
(3:50) What makes jewelry unique in e-commerce—and why emotion matters
(4:55) Bringing in-store energy to digital through omnichannel alignment
(5:46) Test-and-learn culture: “launch and love” for every experiment
(6:52) Navigating price sensitivity and uncertainty with a proactive strategy
(8:20) Showing value through messaging and BNPL while staying nimble
(9:40) What’s next in e-commerce: AI agents, emotional touchpoints, and dual-layer websites
(11:13) Final thoughts: brands that balance intelligence and emotion will win
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00:00 - Untitled
00:01 - Introduction to Omnitok Retail
02:07 - Personalizing Customer Experiences at Kendra Scott
02:43 - Personalization in E-commerce
09:30 - The Future of E-commerce: Embracing AI and Customer Experience
11:11 - The Future of Customer Experience
Hello everybody.
Speaker AWelcome back.
Speaker AThis is Omnitok Retail.
Speaker AI'm Anne Mazinga.
Speaker BAnd I'm Chris Walton.
Speaker AAnd we are coming to you live from Shop Talk 2025 from the Avalara booth, number 1554.
Speaker AChris, we have an exceptional guest who's in a newly promoted role.
Speaker BRecently promoted.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AWe have Kamanishash Kondu.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker ADid I say it right?
Speaker CYep, you got it.
Speaker AKk, who is the SVP and head of digital and e commerce for Kendra Scott.
Speaker AKk, welcome to omnitalk.
Speaker AThanks for making time for us.
Speaker CThank you for having me.
Speaker ASuperstar, you big svp.
Speaker CYou are the superstars.
Speaker CYou are the celebrities.
Speaker CWell, glad to see you both and you guys are doing some amazing work, so congrats.
Speaker AAwesome.
Speaker CThanks, man.
Speaker BThanks, we appreciate it.
Speaker BWell, like we ask all our guests, why don't we start with your background?
Speaker BTell us about your background and your role at your company.
Speaker CYeah, I joined Kendra Scott a couple of years back and I own the overall digital PL for the business which includes like web trading, ux, product management as well as like personalization, analytics and overall omnichannel experience.
Speaker CLike unified commerce.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BUnified commerce.
Speaker BYeah, whatever you want to call it these days.
Speaker BYeah, I'm good with.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd my background is like I started my career as an electrical engineer and then I moved into strategy consulting, project management, digital e commerce and all this.
Speaker CAnd again I think all along throughout my career the common thread has always been customer obsession and data driven impact.
Speaker CAnd before joining Kendra Scott, I was at Pandora, so I was leading the overall level.
Speaker APandora.
Speaker CAll right, so glad to be here with you guys today.
Speaker AWell, tell us a little bit about your session today.
Speaker AYou're on stage at Shop Talk.
Speaker AWhat are you going to be talking about and what do you hope that the audience takes away?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo my session is at 4:55 today.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BOh, we're competing against each other.
Speaker BYeah, we are, you and I.
Speaker AHe's an SVP though.
Speaker BYeah, I know, right?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BAll right, we'll have to make a bet on who fills the auditorium.
Speaker ASo what are you going to be talking about today?
Speaker CSo what I'll be doing is I'll be sharing insights with the audience around, like how we are personalizing customer experiences so that we are not only driving sales but also we are spreading joy and building meaningful connections with our audience.
Speaker CAnd mainly it's kind of like Kendra Scott is a very personal brand and I think it's going to be very insightful for the audience.
Speaker CAnd then I'm sharing few nuggets around how we are leveraging AI, how we are bringing this whole test and learn concept to life to scale the overall personalization program.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker BKk I'm curious, what do you think of the word personalization?
Speaker BI think Ann and I tend to think it's a little overused, but what's your take on it?
Speaker BIs it a word you like or is there another term you like or how do you define it?
Speaker CI think nowadays I'm hearing more hyper personalization.
Speaker BHyper personalization.
Speaker BOkay, so now we're getting more hyper about it.
Speaker CWe are getting more hyper.
Speaker CBut again I think to some people personalization can be like product personalization.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CBut for me it's more like you understand your customers, you anticipate their needs and then you personalize that experience across every touch point in the journey.
Speaker CAnd then I think that's when you see the magic.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CBecause you're now scaling the overall impact and you're creating that long lasting, genuine, authentic customer relationship which will differentiate you from all the other players.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe other word we hear all the time is relevance too.
Speaker BThe relevance is a key thing of personalization.
Speaker BRight as well.
Speaker CTotally.
Speaker BAll right, so jewelry, it's got some unique characteristics in E commerce.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo my questions for you are like one, how do you think about those characteristics?
Speaker BAnd then two, how do you manage through their execution?
Speaker CSure.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo again I think jewelry is very emotional.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt's not a utility.
Speaker CWhen do you purchase a jewelry?
Speaker CLike when you want to mark a moment or you want to self express yourself or your identity or you want to gift something meaningful to someone.
Speaker CI think again I think our incredible founder, one of our famous quote is like fashion is a form of art and it's a self expression and self love.
Speaker CSo again I think we are not in the industry of selling jewelry but it's more we're trying to connect with the audience so we're offering that most relevant or connected experience when it comes to E commerce.
Speaker COur vision is foster deeper customer connection to offer the most personalized omnichannel experience we have around like 150 stores.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAnd they offer.
Speaker CI didn't realize that.
Speaker CYeah, they offer the most amazing experience you can think of and we try to bring that to life on across like digital channels.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAs well.
Speaker CBecause whenever I do like store visits I get always like inspired, energized and try to like put bring some of it in the online channel and then the fundamentals doesn't change when it comes to E commerce.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CYou still need to Be data informed.
Speaker CYou need to be customer upset, you need to know who your customers are, what are the friction points you have in the customer journey and then you kind of take a very strategic focused approach in terms of delivering that.
Speaker CI think the biggest change which I've brought at kenoscot is building a world class team who knows how to read the data and take actions, which is going to move the needle.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CI think that's where we are very nimble.
Speaker CWe are always testing and learning and with every test we believe in launch and love mindset where every test is a stepping stone towards our evolving strategy.
Speaker CSo that's why we are constantly, every day we are innovating because every day is multiple tests running across the entire site.
Speaker CAnd again, I think it kind of like makes us strong down the line.
Speaker AWell, one question that I have for you, KK is really around pricing.
Speaker AWe have a lot of talk right now in the retail news and in broader news about tariffs and just price sensitivity from customers.
Speaker AWe'll say in general, is this anything that you've had to deal with in your role right now or even thinking about some technology that you might be interested investing in, like price optimization technology or even personalization technology to give special offers to your most loyal customers, things like that.
Speaker CI think what I'll share is we are affordable luxury brand and value is very important to our customers.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd the good news is that again I think there's a lot of noise, right.
Speaker CLike we don't know what we don't know at this point.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CThings are constantly evolving.
Speaker CBut again I think what we know for sure is that our customers prefer value.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CSo that's not going to change.
Speaker CSo that means like we're not going to fundamentally change anything like in terms of our execution.
Speaker CThe other good news which is in our favor is that we have a diversified supply chain which gives us more leverage.
Speaker CLike in terms of different flexibilities, we can absorb pressure by kind of like adjusting from here to there.
Speaker CAnd we also have a very clear understanding of the product economics.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo it's kind of like, okay, so we can have a very thoughtful, data driven approach towards pricing if we are starting to see some sort of impact.
Speaker CBut again, I think like we are not going to change anything dramatic like in terms of our promotional or pricing strategy.
Speaker CWe're more like waiting and watching and we are very prepared in the behind the scene and we are making like proactive adjustments, supply chain where needed.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo I'm curious, so have you had to do anything over this period of time to like adjust how you show value to your customer via your e commerce site.
Speaker BLike is there anything that you found that has worked well or are you just still taking kind of a wait and see approach or just kind of like you said, testing your way and exploring your way into what that right answer is?
Speaker CYeah, I think what is very clear based on all the market reports, the customer confidence is going down.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo it is very clear that there is some concerns from a customer side that there is a possible downturn in the business, like possible recession, etc.
Speaker CEtc.
Speaker CSo again I think like what we are doing is like we are going back to our drawing board to see that what are those value messaging resonate with our audience.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CLike is it buy now, pay later which is important at this point.
Speaker CSo and then like once you understand, okay, so these are some of those important touch points like which is going to make a difference.
Speaker CYou amplify them more.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CAnd then you, when you do the amplification you need to think about what next what gives you scale.
Speaker CLike if you just do it on web it's doesn't give you skill.
Speaker CSo we have a cross functional team or task force we already created who are working and making proactive actions decisions which is going to help us to stay competitive.
Speaker BSo it's really about being prepared and proactive for whatever situation comes your way.
Speaker BAll right, well let's get you out of here on this end.
Speaker BI'm going to ask you to put on a more broader hat now or broad hat maybe not a more broader because that's terrible English ad put a broad hat here.
Speaker BLooking across the industry.
Speaker BSo if we look at E commerce broadly, how do you think E commerce experiences are going to change the most in the next say three to five years.
Speaker BHow would they be different then than they are from today?
Speaker CYeah, I wish I had a crystal ball, but I don't have.
Speaker CBut things are constantly changing.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CBut again I think what I've seen is we are getting into a world where customer experiences would be more influenced by AI.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CStarted with predictive now went into generative then that's a good way to say it.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo what that means then is like back in the day like the websites used to be just a storefront.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CLike where customers would come, they will shop.
Speaker CNow I think like we are getting into a world like where there's machines.
Speaker CThat means like you Chris, like you'll have a agent.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BRight, right, right.
Speaker CDo everything for you.
Speaker CHe knows your perhaps purchase Behavior.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BMight take two agents to handle me and then.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd then, like, even before, you know, like, that agent might have placed an order.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo that means.
Speaker CWhat that means for the brands is like, the website needs to be twofold.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CLike, one, it becomes an intelligent intelligence layer for machines.
Speaker COn the other hand, it also becomes emotional touch point for humans.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker CSo then that's part of.
Speaker CFascinating.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CHow do you kind of, like, merge them together?
Speaker CI think that's going to be trick.
Speaker CBut the good news is that, like, at Henderscott, like, we are kind of like a customer first brand.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CLike, we are always kind of on top of creating that joyful experience for them.
Speaker CAnd I believe those brands who would be able to strike that balance between doing both, not forgetting about creating the joy or the emotional connection with customers, they are going to win in the long run.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AWell, kk, thank you so much for taking the time.
Speaker AThanks to all of you for following along.
Speaker AWe have one more interview coming up today.
Speaker AToday we will be in booth 1554 all day today.
Speaker AThank you to Avalara for helping bring us all of these interviews and all of our coverage from Shop Talk and until our last interview and your both of your competing stage performances.
Speaker BDuke it out.
Speaker CI'm coming to mine.
Speaker AI'm coming to yours.
Speaker BDon't tell them.
Speaker ADon't tell them.
Speaker BThat was such a great question.
Speaker BNice job.
Speaker BAll right, well, as always, be careful out there.