Fast Five Shorts | CVS To Launch New “Mini-Stores”
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CVS is rolling out new mini adorable stores.
Speaker AAccording to the Wall Street Journal, CVS Health is preparing to open dozens of stores offering full service pharmacies but very limited retail.
Speaker AThe new stores will be on average less than 5,000 square feet or not even half the size of a typical CVS location.
Speaker AThe company said the 12 new stores are expected to open over the next year in cities and towns throughout the US and will still stock health related products such as over the counter cough and pain medications or first a care.
Speaker AMissing from their aisles, however, will be the vast array of consumer items such as greeting cards, groceries, nail polish and others for decades that have been a staple of CVS and other national drugstore change chains.
Speaker ASorry Dave, let's go to you.
Speaker AWhat do you think of CVS's overt move to mini stores?
Speaker AWhat do you think that signals about the state of pharmacy retailing?
Speaker BSo, so, and I'm, I'm quite intrigued with this model.
Speaker BI think we all know that the drug category as a whole is going through this real big inflection point and so they need to find some way to innovate.
Speaker BAnd separating pharmacy from the convenience store I think is a really interesting idea that it's been a long time coming in the industry, especially here in America as in Europe, it's already like that.
Speaker BAnd so currently the drug retailers, they serve different purposes and they have different clients and in, and especially in less urban spots.
Speaker BIn urban spots you can rationalize there's, you do it all in one like a one stop shop at your local pharmacy to get food as well.
Speaker BBut in more suburban areas I think you're serving different clients and this can help on a wide array of things.
Speaker BIt can reduce your fixed costs around rent, improve your labor.
Speaker BI think the assortment will have a huge, you know, positive impact around on shelf availability and inventory management.
Speaker BAnd then you also have to want to be less promotionally focused.
Speaker BYou know, I'm sure if we walk into not even a cvs, but really any drugstore, you'll see there's a lot of of your standard household goods on promotion which really drives down your profitability.
Speaker BOverall, I think this is a really interesting concept.
Speaker BI would love to know if they're having some sort of impulse buy section still, whether that's seasonal or some snacking or some sort of DSD piece.
Speaker BI didn't see anything on that.
Speaker BThat would be something that I'd love to learn more about.
Speaker BBut overall I'm not going to say I'm bullish right now, but I think it's a very interesting concept that, you know, with a 12 store pilot.
Speaker BWhy, why wouldn't they do it?
Speaker ARight, right.
Speaker AIt gives them a way to like you were saying, like minimize theft, minimize operations and promotions and all the things that they have to do to manage that front end of the store and really focus on, you know, what's bringing them revenue in the, in the near term.
Speaker AAnd that's, you know, the pharmacy business, the over the counter business.
Speaker AAnd you just want to still be able to get your Quest protein chips is what I'm hearing when you pick up your prescription.
Speaker BUh, yeah, I, I, I, I would, I would love that.
Speaker BI love the big bags.
Speaker AYes, right.
Speaker ANot, not the mini grab and go.
Speaker AYou want the solid size.
Speaker AWell, we'll, we'll figure out how they can make a CVS just for you, Dave.
Speaker BUh, but I mean it is true if you think about it, it's, it's an intentional run for some sort of medical need.
Speaker BUnless you're in a more really urban area where it's, then it's a little bit more convenient.
Speaker BSo I think this model is, is super intriguing and I can't wait to experience one of them.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AChris Kreitz, where do you fall?
Speaker CYeah, I think similar in line with what Dave said, you know, I think there's a notion that the long term pharmacy model needs to change.
Speaker CI think this is experimenting to say what could it look like?
Speaker CI think the only thing I'd build to what Dave said is, uh, I think there's some testing here on the interaction between the front end and the pharmacy and what that dynamic really is.
Speaker CI think everyone thinks the pharmacy drives the front end and I think this is kind of testing that a little bit to say if we take out all of the front end, is there any in adverse impact on the pharmacy itself, which would be the downfall of this concept?
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIf you start losing scripts because people want to be able to get multiple things on that shopping trip, then this concept starts to unravel.
Speaker CSo I think they're testing this, they're testing, you know, some other formats as well.
Speaker CI think this is more exploring.
Speaker CYou know, can we still keep all the high margin health sales on the retail end with a very stripped down assortment?
Speaker CHow, how sharp can we get with our assortment before we start to lose those sales?
Speaker CAnd will it have any inverse impact on our scripts at the pharmacy if we don't have a massive selection of health products?
Speaker CSo yeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIt's, it's, it's great that you bring that up, Chris.
Speaker ABecause I think it's, you know, really balancing the points of, like, we know there's a markup on some of those, you know, beauty products, there's a markup on the food, there's a markup on those convenience items that you're talking about.
Speaker ABut then how does that balance with, you know, how much they're losing due to theft, how much the real estate, you know, per square foot costs in these larger CVS stores?
Speaker ASo there's a lot going on there that you're right.
Speaker AI think they'll be able to pressure test here with those 12 stores to see how much of an impact it makes.
Speaker AChris Walton, you're the merchant of the group here.
Speaker AWhat are your thoughts on this approach that CVS is taking with the many stores?
Speaker DYeah, I mean, I.
Speaker DI don't think it says that much about the pharmacy industry.
Speaker DI think when you get right down to it, I think it's just a smart segmentation approach.
Speaker DAnd so I kind of would echo what David and Chris, you know, were saying, I think, you know, on the small format of just being a pharmacy, basically.
Speaker DI think the interesting thing about this is CVS has kind of tested this already by way of their relationship with Target.
Speaker DSo they know if they're only in the pharmacy business, what the operations of that look like and the profitability of that looks like.
Speaker DSo that gives me credence to understand that they know what.
Speaker DThey know what they're up against.
Speaker DBut to Chris's point, they have to understand what the traffic dynamics are that comes with this type of format.
Speaker DBut the other thing the article says, which is interesting, I think it's important to point out, is they still plan to open 30 traditional stores, which is three times the amount that they're going to open up this pilot.
Speaker DSo I think the other thing that I call out, and because I made this mistake, I'm interviewing CVS's chief merchant at Shop Talk on stage.
Speaker DYeah, and I actually made the mistake in my prep with him.
Speaker DI said, like, you know, but the pharmacy is such an important aspect of the traffic driving.
Speaker DAnd he's like, no, it's.
Speaker DIt's not always the case.
Speaker DAnd to David's point, in urban areas, it's flipped.
Speaker DSo, you know, the.
Speaker DThe pharmacy is less important than the grabbing go.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker DSo I think, you know, you.
Speaker DIt's just about balancing that out and understanding the puts and the takes with it across a smart segmentation strategy.
Speaker DSo that's what this is all about to me.
Speaker AYeah, I think.
Speaker AI think the only thing I'D add here at the end is that they also still have the advantage in a lot of places of being the only place that you can go to get your prescription within a matter of minutes or hours where there's not same day delivery of prescriptions.
Speaker AHowever, I think that's, that still is not something that they can rest their laurels on either.
Speaker ABecause I think we're going to start to see increasing same day delivery.
Speaker AWe're seeing that with Walmart, with Amazon, with, you know, Walgreens.
Speaker AAnd if as those, those timelines get reduced and you're starting to see more same day delivery, I think CVS being the place where they're seeing, you know, 80% of traffic in some stores is due to the pharmacy and prescription.
Speaker ALike will they be able to still rely on that?
Speaker AAnd once, you know, if you have a small format that's only pharmacy, does that go away when that can be delivered to my house, especially when you're not feeling well?
Speaker AI think that's something too that will have to be factored into some of these decisions in the term.
Speaker DYeah, and hopefully they're thinking about that in the design of this prototype too.
Speaker DLike, you know, the fact, the fact that it's such a small assortment should make the delivery and pickup of those goods that much easier to operate as well.