Fast Five Shorts | Buy Or Sell: Target’s “Brown Box Delivery” Pilot?
In the latest edition of Omni Talk’s Retail Fast Five recorded live from Shoptalk 2025 in Vegas and sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Simbe, Infios and Ocampo Capital Chris Walton and Anne Mezzenga discuss: Whether They're Buying Or Selling: Target’s “Brown Box Delivery” Pilot
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00:00 - Untitled
00:00 - Target's New Delivery Method: Brown Box Delivery Test
01:03 - Evaluating the Strategy of Sortation Centers
02:12 - Target's New Strategy: Cold Storage Facilities and Market Share
03:14 - Evaluating Delivery Strategies for Retail Success
04:26 - Media and Innovation: Timing and Recognition
Target is testing a new delivery method for its shipped drivers.
Speaker AAccording to Supply Chain Dive, the test enables brown box delivery or shipments outside of same day delivery and pickup options from the company's retail locations to customers in areas without a sortation center nearby.
Speaker AExecutives did not detail which or how many locations are participating in the program yet they say, quote, while we're in the early stages of expanding this test to more markets, we're very encouraged by the early results as it's making us faster and more cost efficient.
Speaker AAnd quote, Target EVP and COO Michael Fidelke said.
Speaker AChris, are you buying or selling Target's brown box delivery test?
Speaker BOh, man, I have a lot of issues with this story, Ann.
Speaker BOkay, a lot of them.
Speaker BWhat are they?
Speaker BWell, let me get back to the answer to the question first because I'll unravel it that way.
Speaker BI think, number one, I think it's a smart idea.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBut two, so I'm buying that it's a smart idea, but I'm selling the fact that it's a, it's an earth shattering idea.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd the reason I say that is because, like, you know, Target has basically taken the approach of sortation centers.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker BWalmart has taken this approach already.
Speaker BAnd it's basically a function of where are your stores?
Speaker BLike, are they near, are they near a location where a sortation center makes sense by, by that, I mean like where you have a cluster of stores, or are they more like Walmart where they're probably outstanding standalone on their own and a sortation center just defeats the purpose.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's the fundamental thing that we have here.
Speaker BSo to me, it's like, okay, you're testing this.
Speaker BLike, no duh.
Speaker BLike, I'm like, you should have been testing this already.
Speaker BAnd it's not gonna be earth shattering.
Speaker BI mean, it may be the right thing to do, but it's like the way the article's saying, like, oh, this great pilot.
Speaker BWe're doing all these things.
Speaker BI'm like, come on here, people.
Speaker BLike, you should have been doing this already.
Speaker BAnd it's just, it's such a no duh idea that I can't even get my head around how silly the positioning is of this in the media.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker BThat's my take on it.
Speaker AYeah, this, this did.
Speaker AI feel like this was definitely a stretch.
Speaker AI mean, I think that the, the bigger story was actually in the Wall Street Journal last week where Target was or finally announced that they built for cold storage facilities.
Speaker BOh, that was baloney too though.
Speaker BOh my God.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AI don't know, I mean that's.
Speaker AThat to me is the right spot to start to talk about because they're going after a market that they're losing share in to Walmart.
Speaker AAnd I think that that starting to put in more facilities like that to me make much more sense than talking about doing something as obvious as yes, testing out what happens with ship drivers.
Speaker ANow the only thing that I do worry about here is that like we've seen ship drivers, I told you about this when like I've been to the sortation center outside Target, I've seen shift drivers that are sitting there with packages sitting outside their car trying to rearrange this.
Speaker ALike my question is like how well prepared are some of these Target back of houses and back rooms?
Speaker AHow, how are they going to do this?
Speaker AI think Target needs to think long and hard about how they're rolling this out in these test locations so that it's set up for success versus just like jamming this in with like order pickup on the side or like you know, getting in the way of trucks delivering.
Speaker ALike I think that there's more to this test and I just hope that it doesn't become a distraction or doesn't get kids killed too early on because it wasn't set up correctly.
Speaker BWell, yeah, and the other point I bring up too that you're kind of hitting on is there's also the question about is using gig drivers the right way to do this?
Speaker BLike should you actually be using delivery?
Speaker BWell, I think for an economies of scale standpoint, from what I've talked to the people that know a lot more about this than I do, what they tell me is like you need for this to work, the stores need a certain amount of orders going through them and you want to be putting those in like delivery trucks.
Speaker ASure, yeah.
Speaker BAnd then you have the question of whether you're better equipped to have W2 drivers handling those loads consistently regularly versus versus gig drivers as well.
Speaker AIn the bunch of route where you're like your W2 drivers, they have vans that they're using to deliver, it's more systemized instead of just pick up a shift today.
Speaker BThat's where the real economies of scale come from.
Speaker BAnd that's I think what Walmart is trying to do with their approach to this over the long run.
Speaker BI don't know the exact split of W2, but I know from an order fulfillment standpoint, of course you want as many orders coming through that store as you can, but because that's what makes it work and that's what makes you drive profitability in the long run, so.
Speaker BAll right, well.
Speaker ASo you're buying?
Speaker BWell, I'm buying the idea, but I just.
Speaker BI'm not.
Speaker BI'm not.
Speaker BI'm not.
Speaker BIt's not the greatest thing since sliced bread, like, it was pitched in the media.
Speaker BIt's just.
Speaker BIt's just like I'm kind of pissed that you're just now talking about this.
Speaker BYou should have been doing this five years ago.
Speaker BAnd my hunch is that they were and they're now just taking credit for it in the media.
Speaker BThat's probably what's happening here.
Speaker BI'm shocked that they're just now testing this.
Speaker BHonestly, as I think about it, at least I hope that's the case to credit them a little bit.
Speaker BAll right.