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Welcome back to Not Alone with Melissa Sue Methfin.
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Today we're diving back into the world of dentistry, but with the lens of the nervous system.
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So many people don't realize that the dental chair is the most fear-decoded places in the body.
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For others, it's pain, loss of control, or simply not feeling safe or heard in the dental chair.
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And one thing that's often overlooked in dentistry is that when someone is afraid, they cannot heal properly.
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Fear shifts the nervous system into survival mode.
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Blood constricts, the oxygen flow is slowed.
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Nutrients are diverted away from repair and regeneration, especially in the jaw, the bone, and the tissues of the mouth.
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So today in this episode, we're gonna bridge dentistry and the nervous system.
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I'm joined today by Dr.
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DeSante, a biological dentist here local in Arizona, who will talk about uh what is the difference of biological dentistry, what are they able to provide there, but also the when someone comes into the dental practice, how often as a dental hygienist have I heard I hate the dentist, I'm afraid, I have dental anxiety.
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I heard that on a daily basis.
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Well, guess who holds that pain, that fear?
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Oftentimes it's the dentist.
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The dental hygienist, the dental staff that greets them.
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Now I've dove into curiosity and connecting the dots as to why dentists are often rooted in pain.
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Uh they're also uh depression, burnout, suicide rates are high, just like my husband.
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But I've also been curious also why some patients have a hard time to heal after root canals, wisdom teeth extractions.
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And for me, with my own observation, I feel the nervous system has a lot to play in that role.
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So welcome today, Dr.
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Desante.
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I'm very honored to have you here.
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And uh, you are my dentist.
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So thank you for saying yes.
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To be, well, I'm very, very picky.
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Uh ever since I moved here in Arizona as a dental hygienist, I've stayed uh temping agency because I didn't want to commit to any office.
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I really needed to see who I'm gonna work with.
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And and oftentimes a lot of people ask me, who do I see?
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And I am very particular.
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And you're the one office that really incorporated everything that I'm looking for as far as biological dentistry and root cause healing.
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So I know my audience, I've had other dentists like Dr.
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Michelle Jorgensen and um uh Trevor Nichols.
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But I'd love your point of view of how you can explain what is a biological dentist.
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Yeah.
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No, I appreciate the kind words, and one day we'll we'll convince you to join our office.
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Yes.
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We'll keep working on that.
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But what is biological dentistry?
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Well, first and foremost, it's not what you would call a specialty, right?
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It's it's more of a philosophy and a way we practice, but it really dives deep into how the whole body's connected.
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And it's something actually I believe that dentistry should just be this way.
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Yes, right?
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Amen.
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That's what I am thinking.
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That's my help.
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It's it's too too often as dentists, we get into the mode of what is coined the term tooth mechanics.
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And to me, that's it's not just fix the tooth, see you later.
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It's well, why why is something happening?
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What's the root cause of it?
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How can we get to the bottom of it so that we can prevent it from continuing to happen?
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And then how can that impact your whole body?
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And often there's things that are going on in the body that can show up in the mouth, there's things in the mouth that can infect the rest of the body.
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And so looking through those lens is, I believe, how you can give the best care and help someone on their health journey.
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Yeah, instead of having your patient there and like, okay, there's the symptom, we'll we'll treat that, right?
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There's the cavity, we'll just do that.
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But you ask more questions, like, okay, what's the root?
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It's more relationship-based, and so we we you know operate at a little bit slower of a pace so that we can dive deeper into those questions.
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It's not a quick, you know, these whereas a lot of the office, most people probably used to seeing the dentist for two seconds and then then they're out of the room, right?
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It's uh more, okay, what's going on?
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How how can we help you further your healing?
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It's not my journey, it's your journey, and I'm there, I'm there to help you.
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But it's I'm not the one that's gonna tell you what to do, right?
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Because there's so many different options, there's so many ways you can go about it, so many different techniques, or ultimately there's a lot of different ways how our body responds.
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Yes.
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And so we just need time to dive into that and and figure out you as an individual.
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Yeah, for example, like my the first initial appointment with me, it's two hours, right?
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So we've got dental hygiene, and I love that you you guys offer uh checking the orobiome, right?
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We get an orobiome test, you have a CBCT scan, and so maybe explain what that does for patients.
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You know, I always say definitely, you know, go to an office that has the C B C T scan.
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Yeah, it's it's very insightful, gives a lot of information.
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Uh, you can imagine, so a regular x-rays 2D is basically a piece of paper you can go look at and you can get some information with that.
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But a 3D, a C B C T scan, you know, full circle around a tooth and the jaw and the mouth, and you can all see everything there.
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So whether it's a hidden infection in the tooth or the bone, you can see the sinuses, you can see the nasal cavity, you can see the airway, and all those can have impacts on your health, your systemic health, your oral health.
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So yeah, does it how does it work?
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Because I remember when you're looking at it, you can tell exactly where they might be some, like you said, cavitations or things like that.
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So it gives you a number.
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So is it like a decrease in number?
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Yeah.
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If there's well, what that's called, you're referring to Huntsfeld units on the scan, it's a measurement tool and it's measuring the density of the bone.
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So bone, like the jaw, uh, certain parts of the jaw or a tooth would be a very high positive number because it's very dense.
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And bone in the jaw, some parts of the jaw is more a trabecular bone and it has more kind of airflow.
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I mean, for lack of better terms, you can describe it as more like a honeycomb type consistency.
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But there'd be fluctuations of density, and some areas might be a little bit lower, or even some areas might be negative numbers.
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And we start to see clumps of negative numbers in that you start to wonder, or it raises a red flag.
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Okay, is something going on here?
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Is the bone not as dense as it should be?
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And why?
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Why?
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Yeah, which I think is so important, right?
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To to detect that.
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Okay, well, why is that bone density?
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You don't want to lose that bone density.
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That's what's the anchor for your teeth.
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So, and also because every tooth is part of you know the meridian lines of an organ as well, so then if it starts having an issue in a tooth, then it's gonna affect your entire system.
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Exactly.
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And I'm sure everyone's different, right?
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Because some it's really dependent on your immune system.
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Some people have robust immune systems and they can tolerate small uh defects or deficiencies here and there.
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But some people it it it eventually stacks up, stacks up, stacks, and eventually you get to a teetering point where now your immune system can't handle this load of toxicity or sometimes viruses, you know, mold, uh, fungus, other fungus, fungi, or even parasites.
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And so everyone's different in how they respond.
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So it's not a one-size-fit-all, right?
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And typically these spots are related to where a tooth was if you had a tooth taken out.
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So it's not something we're just can happen anywhere in the bone and we're scanning for it.
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It's there's normally a cause if you're so you see that primarily wisdom teeth, correct?
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Wisdom teeth's a common spot because you know, most of us have wisdom teeth out for whatever reason.
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I mean, that's a whole nother story, but yeah, typically where tooth was taken out if there was infection left behind, if there was ligaments or other tissue left behind, and it just didn't allow the body to fully heal and find out.
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And this is where I'm trying to connect the dot because I said, well, okay, why do some right can heal just perfectly after extractions?
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And why some don't?
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And where over time it causes these cavitations with uh loses the density of that bone in that area.
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And I'm thinking it as the lens of a nervous system.
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Was that person under a lot of fear or leading up to that surgery?
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Because we know that when that person is in is in fear, they won't be able to heal properly.
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You know, the the oxygen, the blood flow, everything is constricted, even the nutrients to that area, so it won't provide the right environment for it to heal.
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So now I'm trying to think, wow, okay, if the patient, so I'd be curious to do a test study, you know, of your patient and asking them the ones that couldn't heal, where you're scratching your mind, like, why is that infection not going away?
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Are they living in fear?
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Yeah, I I think you mentioned meridians, and I I believe the body is full of energies and both internal and external, and things impact us and can change that frequency within the body.
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And emotions is a big part of it.
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And people uh just the other week we had a patient, I had a patient come in, broken down tooth, had to get it removed, and but she's been coming back the past couple of days, and it's like everything looks great, but she's like, I just don't feel well.
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And I think one, your body's detoxing, it's cleansing it out.
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But the other part we talked about, okay, well, how are we supporting our body?
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Yes.
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Are we supporting the immune system, the nervous system?
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Are we doing extra things like vitamin C IVs or glutathione to help detox?
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Uh, I think infrared therapy is really good.
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And yeah, emotional parts a big part of it.
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So are you with that anxiety and that fear, whether it was in that moment or whether it was past trauma that you're carrying with you?
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Like, is that not is that creating a block that your body can't get past?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because how many people you hear?
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That is the block.
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Yeah.
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Is the fear they're not so do we need to do body work?
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Do we need to do um have a good friend that does um what do you call it?
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We would call, I guess we'd call it body talk, where she can emotionally help you release any fears or traumas.
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Yes, through in the fascia.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I have a friend who actually I'll be able to do that.
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But it wasn't even necessarily that's one way where you, you know, through touch and manipulation, but also just through the energies and she can she would it be.
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I work with a lady with my kids for that, yeah, lately.
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And it's it been a huge help to release anything that was still stuck in their body.
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For example, my kids are still stuck in their body, the trauma of losing their dad.
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You know, my son being upset that his dad is gone, that he took his life, you know, and that's still in his body.
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So we're working energetically to detox that.
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Yeah, and so I that's where I'm thinking in dentistry, the shift, the holistic, the biological.
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What if leading up to their surgeries?
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Uh, you know, we do tell them to do this guided breath work, you know, or you as a provider, the dentist, before you start, let's say, hey, let's break for one minute, or while you're doing local anesthesia, you know, you gotta wait till it's done.
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Well, that's but that's part of the fears too.
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Yeah.
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Like how many people come in saying they're scared of the needle, and that's that's where the fear comes in.
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Uh, I think it goes even before that, whether we dive in, okay, let's get you on a homeopathic protocol that can release these anticipatory fears.
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Yeah.
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Or what uh my my philosophy is what's gonna make you most comfortable?
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I can I can do what we can do.
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Who doesn't like hearing all the drills, right?
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Some people don't like the levels of dentistry is triggering.
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Yes, uh our office is designed to, we want it to feel, and you haven't been to our new office.
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No, I haven't.
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I'm so excited to see.
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No, so it's still uh uh in process, we're still kind of bringing things in, but it should feel like this, like a living room, like you're sitting in the living room and it's comfortable, there's no triggering dental smells, it shouldn't be a white space that you know often hospitals give that vibe, a sterile vibe.
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Uh, it should be comfortable, and you should know that coming in, you're gonna be listened to, you're gonna be heard.
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Uh, how many times you mentioned earlier, how many times do people say they're scared, but also how many times do people come in to see the doctor, the dentist, and say, you know, they just don't listen to me.
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Yes.
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I don't feel heard.
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And so the biggest compliment to me is after we're done with the whatever appointment, they're like, you know, this was different because I felt like you actually listened to what I was saying.
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And whether it was five minutes, whether we sat down for 20 minutes, and it's just making a person feel like they're not crazy for having ideas or thoughts of their own body, because they should.
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Intuition is a very powerful thing.
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Yeah.
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I think you trust your gut and a lot of decisions, and it will guide you to where you need to go.
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Absolutely.
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So, anyway, that's a big part of it.
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Trying to Yeah, I think even you know, sometimes I leave on the the LED aprons, right?
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For x-rays, it just having a weighted blanket to calm them and take a few breaths, and and definitely, you know, the sounds, the smells.
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If we shifted that, and also, of course, the dentist, the provider, right?
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Because we're so close to them.
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So making sure you're regulated and so am I when I'm coming in to treat.
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I like the idea of breath work.
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That's very cool.
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I think that can be helpful and you know, like you said, weighted blankets are very helpful.
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Uh essential oils can be soothing and calming.
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Just just if you want to listen to a podcast or if you want to listen to an audiobook.
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Yeah, some frequency music, right?
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If you had frequency music, um, you know, I'd love to have the um like sound baths and the the bowls come in and that would be cool.
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Because I have those actually, I have it in my car before I start at each podcast.
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I actually was sitting in front of the red light.
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I do my prayer in the morning.
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Like I have a series so that I'm so grounded, and so my nervous system is regulated.
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And then that way this conversation flows.
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We're in coherence, I'm calm, it comes from the heart, and it's the the message that needs to be heard.
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And this is where I think there needs to be a big shift.
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And that's what I'm talking.
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I'll be talking in in Texas at a TDA conference, and it's all about bringing breath work in the dental office, not just for the provider, but for the patients as well.
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Because I'm, I don't know, this is from my own observation.
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The ones that are not healing from maybe you know, uh taking out wisdom extractions or root canals, things like that.
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I'm kind of curious, like, were they in fear?
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And and the prolonged fear, state of fear, halted their healing.
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Yeah, and even while they're healing after the procedure, are they worried on how they're gonna heal?
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Yes.
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You know, things are sore and uncomfortable.
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Is that causing more?
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Is it am I ever gonna get better?
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Is this did I do the wrong thing?
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Did I make the wrong choice?
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Yes.
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You know, there's a lot of things that are out of my control within, but they're in the control of the person.
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But we can we can manage what we can in the office in that moment and implement techniques and uh create an environment that's soothing and open to that healing, but we have to go deeper really into our own personal journey.
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For example, you mentioned your son healing.
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Well, my son, he's one, but we're working on trying to heal him through the trauma he had at birth because he was in the NICU and and for you know whatever reason, but he was spent 18 days in the NICU, and then he had very weak lungs, and then at two or three months he had to go back into the NICU because he got RSV.
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Oh wow, and so he that's a lot of trauma.
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Yes, that is birth trauma.
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So I've I've heard so now is he gonna have a fear of doctors and go in the hospital?
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Maybe.
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Yeah, his nervous system too.
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All those bright lights.
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Yes, I've I've uh listened to a podcast, a doctor that talks about the birth traumas and the kids and the nervous system.
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And oftentimes tongue-tied is actually a nervous system uh issue as well, where they're so wound up, you know.
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Yeah, well, that's a cool window to look into because the tongue, if you naturally the tongue should be positioned on the roof of the mouth, and if it's not there, sometimes kids resort to using a pacifier or their thumb because that pressure on the roof of the mouth completes the circuit and the meridians and the energy flow.
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Which is calming.
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So if the tongue's not gonna do it, they're gonna want to find something else.
00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:38.400
Yeah, my son was a two-finger sucker, and he his nervous system.
00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:48.000
Now I know, I didn't know then, but the colic and tongue tie, yeah, was his nervous system, the birthing, because it was uh C-section, but also mentally.
00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:56.720
Yeah, where I was at, living under a lot of fear throughout the pregnancy, affected him and his gut issue and all that.
00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.599
So now I know you know so much more.
00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:09.839
But that how the nervous system plays such a role in all that and in doing the proper integration, like you're doing for your son, you know, implementing these tools for him right now.
00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:15.200
So a lot of body work, cranial sacral therapy, chiropractor has been helpful.
00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:29.599
I learned from chiropractor one time, and it made sense because as she was talking, she was talking okay, the primitive reflex that we hold on to that sometimes is a blockage to all this nervous and emotional things.
00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:37.599
And she says, a common, a common reflex of the the kids that are holding on to this primal reflex is they they have their hands in the air.
00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:47.039
And then I thought back in the dental chairs, like there are a lot of kids as you're working and just looking in their mouth or whatever, their hands go right up to the so true.
00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:48.000
Did you notice that?
00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:49.680
Yes, oh my gosh, yeah, yeah.
00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.720
Because this is this reflex, and this is whatever cause.
00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:57.039
I mean, I'm no expert in that, but I should talk to her more.
00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:07.200
But it's because of this reflex they're holding on to, and in our world, we're like, No, we don't want the hands by your face because we got things going on, so it's always put your hands down, put your hands down.
00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:19.119
But they're doing it because it's they're subconsciously that's like their reflex to protect themselves or you know, they're on guard, and so it's very interesting.
00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:20.000
Yeah, the fear.
00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:27.519
The fear is still helping uh teach the body that they're not being attacked, you know, so that survival mode.
00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:35.680
And that's for me when I was in such a fight and flight after my husband passed, I had to really learn that resilience and show my body that I was safe.
00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:42.400
So I did a lot of body work and cold plunging and breath and all that, just so I can build up that resilience.
00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:50.640
And that's where I think this is such an important tool for bringing it back to dentistry.
00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:57.519
If more, if we really incorporated these tools, I think we'd see a shift.
00:21:57.599 --> 00:21:58.640
Because right now it's really confusing.
00:21:58.720 --> 00:21:59.759
So, for example, there's so much.
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.759
Talk about root canals, right?
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:02.079
Right.
00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.440
Leaving something dead in the mouth and harboring these bacteria.
00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:08.160
But it doesn't affect everybody.
00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:09.839
But it also creates fear.
00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:17.759
You know, I also, you know, posted some information that that's about root canals, you know, when I had biological dentists on.
00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:22.319
And I do notice how sometimes this information creates this fear, right?
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:23.920
And that's not what I want.
00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:33.759
I do want to for people to become their own health advocate, to know kind of the truth, the root cause of everything.
00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:38.319
But also I don't want to create fear because I feel like that's that's worse.
00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:48.720
Well, so much, I mean, so much of the world both sides, whether you're on the allopathic medicine, alternative medicine, whatever, there's fear, mongering on both sides, really.
00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:50.319
And I agree with you.
00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:56.319
You we don't want to create that fear, it's just empowering people with knowledge.
00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:56.720
Yes.
00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:02.400
And so that they know the pros and cons of all of the options they have available to them.
00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:02.720
Yeah.
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.000
And maybe can you describe that?
00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.720
What's your point of view for the okay, root canal in particular?
00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:07.039
Yeah.
00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:11.839
That's so you know, I know it's not never black and white, but can you explain it?
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:17.279
Yes, once you remove, pretty much you're removing it's the tooth immune system.
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:20.319
Yeah, you lose the vitality of the tooth, right?
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:30.000
Uh if you got gangrene on your finger, are you gonna just you know, treat it and let your fingers stay there?
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.119
No, probably you gotta get it amputated, right?
00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:47.359
So if we're amputating the root of the the nerve of the tooth, then why are we just leaving the shell, the tooth there that has no vitality left to and no connection to the body, really, right?
00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.839
So that's some of the concern.
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:54.720
The benefit is okay, you get to keep your tooth, and sure there's some benefits to that.
00:23:55.359 --> 00:24:06.079
But if your body and your immune system can't manage the different bacteria that are culmating in that spot, then then what do we do?
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:14.079
Your body compensates otherwise, and sometimes that leads to downfall in other systems or organs in the body.
00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:16.799
Yeah, depending on how healthy the entire systems were.
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:23.279
Again, it's back to how everyone's immune system functions and what they can tolerate.
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:28.000
But it's the best way I'm looking at these these plants and things behind you.
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:34.480
The best way to describe a root canal is so the nerve of the tooth, you have a trunk like a tree.
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:39.119
And so that's that's really easy to clean out because it's obvious where it is.
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:48.799
But trees have and plants have branches and everything that goes all over the place, and hundreds and thousands of millions, even branches.
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:51.759
And so, how can you clean that all out?
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:52.880
You can't.
00:24:53.759 --> 00:25:14.400
So with the root canal, you you clean it out, you do the best you can, try to seal everything off, but you still have all these branches and these these tubules and pores are going back and forth that can still have some nervous nerve tissue and some bacteria lingering there, and your body, if it's too much for the immune system, doesn't know what to do with it.
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:14.799
Yeah.
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.880
And I'm always about optimizing your health, right?
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:28.480
And if we really want to optimize your health, why would you leave something in your mouth that can, you know, cultivate bacteria that you don't want, right?
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.480
And compromise your immune system.
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:32.079
So that's kind of where I'm at.
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:37.599
There's no, you know, black and white, but just yeah, empowering people of that knowledge.
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.240
And I love the way you you explained it.
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:45.039
It was simple, people can understand it, and it's the truth.
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:46.240
Yeah, it's the truth.
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:50.319
And so with that information, people can decide what they want to do.
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:55.680
Um, if it looks clinically fine, then great, we can watch it and monitor it.
00:25:55.920 --> 00:26:02.319
Uh, that's where this this CBCT is so important because we can see things that you can't see on the 2D X-ray.
00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:06.000
And if there's a clinical issue, well, now you have a little bit more of a push.
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:10.160
Okay, the root nails obviously failed, we've got to do something about it.
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:31.519
But if it clinically looks good, and you know, and it's it's now each individual decision of do they feel like it's having overall impacts on the rest of their body and they want to do something about it, or are we gonna put it more into the monitoring stage and we can do other techniques like ozone to help try to stabilize it.
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:33.759
I love the ozone, yeah.
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:48.559
So there's there's tools for whatever decision we go, but you hit it the nail on the head that we just want to optimize the health and optimize the healing in the body, no matter what technique or decision is made.
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:49.279
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.079
If you had the decision, now you're aware, you have this information.
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.720
Back, you know, you can't go back at yesterday, but now you have this information.
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.279
That changed the decision that you did the root canal.
00:26:59.359 --> 00:26:59.519
Yes.
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:01.839
But now you have a new decision of how to manage it.
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:02.720
How to manage it.
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.680
And of you know, I always tell people, well, what do you do?
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.039
What where are the options?
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:13.119
You know, I for me, I said, well, you can put in an implant, but I always say preferably do a ceramic implant.
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.480
Is that what you would recommend instead of a titanium?
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:17.519
Because you don't want metal.
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:23.839
Yeah, can there can be metal responses as we're talking about the nervous system.
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:27.039
You know, any sort of metal is an antenna, really.
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:34.000
And is that drawing frequencies into the mouth and into the body, maybe, right?
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:36.559
So that's something to be cautious and aware of.
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:37.440
Absolutely.
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:38.240
Oh, yeah.
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:40.000
I mean, we're all energy.
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:52.240
So you've got to, I notice it even in working in a dental office, you know, you hear all the the sounds, the drills, and sometimes you're kind of sensory overload by the end of the day because of all that.
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:57.680
And I think most of our environment nowadays is kind of affecting our nervous system.
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:07.039
So that's why constantly grounding and the sound bowls that I have and breath to uh regulate ourselves, step time in nature, you know.
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:09.440
Yeah, and actually another one is the best one.
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.880
That's always I'm all that's always calling for me.
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:16.480
I'm like, oh, okay, we gotta go.
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:18.960
You know, actually, Monday, that's how I felt.
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:24.400
I was like, okay, we gotta go to Canyon Lake, we gotta go kayak, we gotta go out there listening to all the birds.
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.880
And even this weekend, like, should we take the RV?
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:28.799
Let's go out, you know.
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:34.960
Well, we we we moved here not too long ago, uh, and I think I've told you that we moved down from Canada actually.
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.039
And it was easy in Canada because we lived in the forest.
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:42.319
We lived right by a uh glacier river.
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:43.839
Which part were you in again?
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:44.880
Calgary, Alberta.
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:45.839
Oh, Calgary, yeah.
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:46.240
I live there.
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:46.400
Yeah.
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.279
So right by Banff National Park in the Rocky Mountains.
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:50.880
I know I was always up in Canmore.
00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:51.119
Yeah.
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:51.920
Always go up there.
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:52.799
Right by our house.
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:53.119
Yes.
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:54.400
But yeah, so it was easy there.
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:56.079
It's a little bit more tricky in Arizona.
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.640
You have to kind of drive to get out somewhere, but but even in your own yard, it would be beneficial.
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:02.960
To get in the garden or or whatever.
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.160
Yeah, yeah, garden.
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:05.680
I mean, I live in Agratopia.
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:11.200
There's Agritopia farm, so that you can have your own place to, you know, grow your vegetables and whatnot.
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:20.400
So yeah, I think it's so important to be aware of that and then where you're coming in and and deciding what to do and what's the options.
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:24.079
And that's why I would like to put out this information.
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:39.359
It's just uh empowerment, and also because I also observe my husband doing, he was actually really good at root canals, but I do remember the calls, the constant calls, the emergencies.
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:43.440
And it was a even a friend, oh, the infection kept coming back, coming back.
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.559
And it he was just a perfectionist and was like, Oh, I couldn't figure it out.
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.039
Now this is why this all makes sense.
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.799
I'm like, oh, well, that's connecting the dot as to probably why, you know.
00:29:52.880 --> 00:30:00.079
And if we had, if we didn't have a CBCT scan, you know, then we'd be able to see maybe a little bit more what was going on, you know.
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:00.720
Yeah.
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.319
And uh that's interesting.
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:03.279
Yes, yeah.
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:09.440
Think back and what could have been changed or you know, what were we missing?
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:16.079
And you know, I it's really I think this style of dentistry is on the cutting edge of dentistry.
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:21.039
It's here to challenge the norms of dentistry and healthcare in general.
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:21.680
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:22.559
Do you find it hard?
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:29.519
Like with even other dentists that you friends that you have, if they're doing general, what do they think about what you're doing and what you're incorporating?
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.119
Uh, you know, I just ask people just to have an open mind.
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:33.440
Yeah.
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:33.839
Right?
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:35.920
It's not like we're doing crazy stuff.
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.640
You walk in the office, it still feels like a dental office.
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:41.039
It's it's doesn't look any.
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:48.559
I mean, we try to make it look different and more comfortable, but still you have a dental chair and you know the regular dental equipment.
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.759
But being open-minded is the biggest part.
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:57.839
Just yeah, uh, I had a a friend coin at one time, just be an open-minded skeptic, right?
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:05.039
Open-minded, okay, let's see, let's go through it and you know, look for the evidence and prove things are right.
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:14.000
And there is a lot of evidence, there's a lot of science behind it, there's a lot of background, and it's not just this hocus, well, until you see it, yeah, you see it on a daily basis.
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.000
I mean, you could share some stories.
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:19.519
I did this, this, and this is better.
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.359
It's like and and you know what I mean.
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:21.839
I'm curious.
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:23.119
How can I prove that?
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.519
But I'm also not calling you a liar.
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:35.039
You're telling me that now this issue is better that you're dealing with just because we managed a root canal or or mercury fillings or whatever it might be.
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:45.920
Yeah, I'm glad you're bringing that up, actually, because I am really curious from the patient space that you've had, some that had cancer, let's say, or chronic illness.
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:53.440
And oftentimes I feel the mouth is kind of the last place that they look, you know, as sometimes where it was coming from.
00:31:53.680 --> 00:32:03.680
So from some cancer patients that you've had in your chair and what's going on in the mouth, do you see a correlation and where you know infections and like what do you see starting?
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.960
I mean, there are even studies around that, right?
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:16.400
How an infected root canal or an abscess in general can have impacts on cardiovascular health and Alzheimer's and other systemic conditions.
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.799
So that's pretty well documented.
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:28.640
But what I've experienced is people, yeah, come in and often it is the last the mouth is the last place they check.
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.440
But I I think health starts in the mouth a lot of times.
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:33.039
It's like a mirror, I say.
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:33.519
Yeah.
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:39.440
And I wish more the medical world would be, okay, well, let's just check the mouth.
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:47.519
What's the harm in checking the mouth to make sure everything's okay, whether you have gum disease or or cavity or bacteria overload or infections?
00:32:47.839 --> 00:33:19.039
Because I have seen people heal through managing those infections that are in the mouth, whether it's through arthritis, joint pain, or I have had people say that they're in cancer remission or their tumors are gone and their their breast cancer, whatever, has changed and they're in now remission, but the only thing that they did different was manage that infection in the mouth.
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:19.440
Okay.
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:19.839
Yeah.
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:21.759
So how do you argue that?
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:22.240
Right?
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:22.960
Yeah, exactly.
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:41.759
You can't argue what you observe, what you see, and uh and just um I think I've heard that a lot too, you know, where people, I have a friend that we're from an abscess uh from a root canal, then she almost had a heart attack, she has a stint now in her heart.
00:33:42.000 --> 00:34:02.319
So, but when they go to the hospital, I know for us, if you know, if we weren't open the Sundays and they're sent to emergency, they're not prepared at the hospital to even check in the mouth and know, have the knowledge, so then they have to wait till the next day, or they don't even correlate it to maybe her heart issues either.
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:03.839
You know, they deny it.
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:10.719
So there needs to be almost like communication and understanding that that is a mirror to your entire health.
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:11.360
That's what I say.
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:31.280
I mean, for years, I literally could look inside, you know, you look in someone's mouth, I was like, I could tell the amount of stress they're in, um, what you know, the fear, the anxiety, what their diet, you know, some of the medication, of course, what it's causing if they've done a lot of drugs and you know, there's so much.
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:33.760
I see a whole story inside the mouth.
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.880
Yeah, and uh so it's it's a mirror.
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:44.000
And I think it does that's often the first sign of other things going on, is what you see in the mouth.
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:44.639
Exactly.
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:49.280
It's the body's you know speaking to us, there's something underlying, like even if you have an infection.
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:51.199
Well, why why is your immune system down?
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.360
You know, what what's happening inside your body?
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.079
Are you living uh in a lot of fear right now?
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.840
Are you in a lot of stress, or there's something you're not willing to see?
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:03.280
So your body will start to speak to you, right?
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.079
Yeah, and that's why illness if you listen.
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.719
If you listen, yeah, I gotta be willing to listen.
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:17.519
And one thing that I wish, you know, be incorporated more in the realm of science and the medical industry is really blending faith.
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:17.920
Yeah.
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:19.199
Blending faith.
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:36.639
Uh, I feel even if we prayed, you know, not picking one faith, you know, but just asking the patient if however they like to pray, or do you mind if we just speak uh just light and gratitude and just before we start.
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.559
Just just understanding in general that there's something more than than here, right?
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:55.440
No matter what whatever you want to believe in, whether it's God or energy or light or whatever, there's there's something more and that's both innate in ourselves, but also in the universe as well.
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.880
Yeah, higher power, that there's something else out there.
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:04.719
So even starting uh or you know, the just starting out with the patient before I start cleaning.
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:18.480
Hey, do you mind if we I just do a short little, you know, prayer and then we start, or just to put you at ease, you know, to just make sure that we're changing, uh kind of getting into that, I always say the heart coherence just to calm them.
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:20.800
You know, I'm always giving them uh also the upper hand.
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:25.599
Sometimes I'll say, okay, if at any point you are uncomfortable, just raise your hand, do you know?
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:32.400
Something to disrupt that that frequency that they're coming in of stress and anxiety.
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:32.719
Yes.
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:34.480
You disrupt that somehow.
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.159
There's lots of ways to do it.
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.880
But yeah, there's that's very important, I believe.
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.119
Of course, in a dental world, time is always a bit of an issue.
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:58.239
And I love at your office, you just allow yourselves to have more time, which you know, and oftentimes now it's like, okay, no, one hour, like I barely have time to eat, you know, to drink or anything.
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.360
It's like eight hours, boom, boom, boom, at most offices.
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:12.239
But if we spent more time to really help them and calm, because in that energy as well, they're gonna be stressed, you know, they're gonna feel rushed, right?
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:14.639
And nobody likes that, yeah, right.
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.119
And they want that connection and ultimately they want to trust you as the doctor.
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.800
Oftentimes, a hygienist, I remember that, oh, I is he telling the truth.
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:27.119
All doc dentists want is money and but I'm like, hear that so much.
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:35.920
I'm like, yes, like he has your best most have your best interest, and and so it's building that trust too, and that takes time.
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:47.039
So allowing more time and connection will allow just so much more healing on a whole for the patient and for you too.
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:54.880
I mean, it'd be a lot to just go, go, go and try and just be rushed through patience, that won't be good for your nervous system, you know.
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:56.079
No, 100%.
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:07.920
Um one thing that came to my mind was if there's one thing, you know, there's lots of things I admire about my wife.
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:22.480
And uh as as she's a mother to our kids and with mother mothers in general, is just how real and true a mother's intuition is.
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:47.440
And through our experiences with our kids and raising our kids and through their health journeys, and you know, oft a lot of times choosing the alternative paths and going against the mainstream forms of medicine, how right she's been in just following her intuition.
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:49.119
That's really powerful.
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:49.760
It is.
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:54.480
That's what my next book is The God God Connection, is all about empowering you.
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.760
Your body, your intuition will tell you.
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Tell you.
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.000
But I think I think mothers and women have an extra speech.
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:03.360
Yeah, I think so too.
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.000
Yeah, it's it's definitely more than I have for sure.
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:07.440
I don't think so, but that's okay.
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:14.320
But at least you're seeing it and you're willing to trust her, yeah, and also support her in her decisions.
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.440
That's what we need from the masculine, from yeah, from the man is that yeah, we're very into it.
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:20.480
I am too.
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:31.760
And whenever I'm speaking, you know, to my boyfriend, I'm like telling him, it's like, oh, okay, I didn't feel that, but openness, that openness to support and to understand it and to trust it.
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:50.639
I remember hearing this speaker as well, this world speaker in the health industry, and he says, Oh, yeah, I just I'm such a believer, everyone, I trust everyone, but now first they have to go through my wife because she can really decipher who's in it for the money, who's in it with the heart.
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:52.400
So it's very powerful.
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:53.519
It is really powerful.
00:39:53.840 --> 00:40:10.320
And and a lot of times a lot of our clients that come in are mothers and they bring their families, and it's cool to see that intuition work in their families and their lives with their health decisions and everything.
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:19.039
And it's it's yeah, actually, my wife was the one that directed me into this style dentistry.
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:19.920
I like that.
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:26.559
It was it was her, you know, pushing and nudging to hey, let's look more into this, look more into this.
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.480
And because uh in dental school, you don't you don't learn any of this, right?
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:37.199
Yeah, there's so many things we should be learning, including airway and breathing and all that.
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:42.239
But but even don't you think you mentioned earlier not to cut you off, but I don't want to miss it, with mercury.
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:42.960
Yeah, right.
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.679
You mentioned the mercury, you know, it's not something you that'd be taboo to talk about, you know, at school.
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:48.079
Yeah.
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:49.760
Oh, definitely taboo.
00:40:50.159 --> 00:41:00.880
But uh oddly enough, you know, the FDA has come out and there's been statements against mercury for women and pregnant women and kids.
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And to me, I just think, well, if it's not okay for them, that's that subpopulation.
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.239
Why is it okay for anyone?
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:09.039
Right?
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:23.840
Also in dentistry, we're we're regulated through our suction lines, and you know, as you suck things up, at the bottom of the line, the tracks of the line, there has to be an amalgam separator, a mercury separator from the general water supply.
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.239
So, well, that's why is that a regulation?
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.440
I I thought it was all okay and good and healthy, right?
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:36.880
But there's just uh these odd things that you know aren't really so odd because because once you know, you know.
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:51.360
But why is in the main world is that okay to have those sort of regulations, but we just put it in people's mouths and okay there, but it's not okay to have it, you know, in the water or pregnant women or kids.
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:58.480
You know, I just I know it's just like it doesn't make sense because we know our body knows it shouldn't be inside our mouth.
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.639
Yeah, and you definitely shouldn't play with it in your hand anymore, you know.
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.159
That's common knowledge, but it's still good to put in your mouth.
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:06.639
I know.
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:07.440
Well, that's the thing.
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:16.159
That's why I think for dentists that do place them, that do place the amalgams, that remove them all the time to be aware of that.
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:17.360
I'm always curious.
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:22.800
I'm like, gosh, if we tested every uh dentist for mercury levels, I'd be curious.
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:24.960
No, that would be a very curious.
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:25.440
Yeah.
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.880
Have you ever tested have you yourself for mercury levels?
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:30.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:30.480
Yeah.
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:36.880
I've actually I pride myself in saying I've never placed a mercury filling in someone's mouth.
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:38.719
Okay, not even in dental school.
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:39.679
Wow, that's good.
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Okay.
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:42.559
So that's kind of cool.
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But uh yeah, I've tested myself.
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.280
We do we do the what's called a SMART protocol.
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And so if we're taking out a mercury filling, we're doing extra precautions with ventilation and and masks and you know, helping the body detox and clear that out.
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:07.119
So I feel like that's protecting us and the clients that come in.
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:27.360
Um there's there's been studies actually done that show so just as for example, they had a extracted tooth outside of the mouth, amalgam filling outside of the mouth, and they take a pencil eraser and just rub the eraser outside of the mouth and create friction.
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:32.639
Then they put it on a smoke screen, and you see the mercury vapors releasing.
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:33.760
That's right here, yeah.
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.719
Releasing from it, yeah, with the heat and the friction.
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:41.679
And it's like, well, that's what we're doing in our mouth as we chew and eat and drink hot and cold things.00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.000
So that's got to be happening somewhat.00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:48.559
And then as you cut into a tube, well, that's definitely releasing more vapors.00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.599
So that's why we do the SMART protocol because it's releasing and we want to protect everything.00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.760
But there there's just having it in your mouth as metals expand, contract, you know, there's00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.440
There's release and and isn't that what they say send kids?00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:04.159
Yeah, right?00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:05.039
Because it's cheaper.00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:06.880
It's cheaper, it's cheaper, yeah.00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:19.199
Easier to use, and you know, it does last a long time, but that's because it I've seeth fracture and break far more than I've ever seen one of those silver fillings break.00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:34.000
But so that's why it's done, and you know, it's hard for things to change when you've been doing it for years and years and years, and generally accepted by the the but now we're aware, and I can not not see that.00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:43.760
And I think the trend is going more that way too, where you know, with mercury it's becoming more known of the impacts of the fillings in the mouth.00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:51.599
Uh fluoride, for example, is you know, going through lawsuits against the EPA, challenging the water fluoridation.00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:56.800
Yeah, because it affects the fluoride, the bone density, yeah, you know, yeah, IQ levels.00:44:57.840 --> 00:44:59.599
So lots of studies on that.00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:06.239
Um, and just questioning okay, how much benefit does it give to the teeth?00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.519
And does that outweigh all the risks of it?00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:09.920
Right.00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:13.039
And so that's becoming more and more studied.00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.519
And I think the trend's going that way.00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:21.679
I think the trend in 15, 20 years is gonna go more towards biological.00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:29.760
And so that's why I say we're on the cutting edge and you are you're really the only, I mean, also we've been doing that for 10 years, 10 plus years, right?00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:30.639
I love that.00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:31.280
I love that.00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:33.679
I love that you are not, you know what I all love.00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:45.760
There's so much I love about you guys, the the office and what you provide, and you as a provider, but as you as a provider, what you mentioned that you are open to trust a mother's intuition.00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:55.360
How often have I gone to a provider is like something's off for myself, first of all, but especially my kids.00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:01.360
Yeah, and and I'm like, no, everything's good, everything's good, or you're told you're kind of crazy, you're a hypocond.00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:14.400
All the things, but I keep, I know, I will find someone that can see me and and your openness right there, that is hard to find.00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:15.760
That is really hard.00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:18.320
I appreciate hearing that, but it's sad that it's hard to find.00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:18.800
Yeah.00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:29.039
But I so many times, almost maybe every day, uh people will come in and like this is off, it doesn't feel right.00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.760
And it's okay, let's do our checks, let's check things out.00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.280
It's like as far as I can tell, it looks okay.00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.119
But I hear what you're saying.00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:41.199
I can't I I don't know what you're feeling, only what you're telling me.00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:51.440
So something's there, and whether I can find it in this moment or not, more often than not, it eventually manifests itself, and you're like, Yeah, you're right, something is there.00:46:51.679 --> 00:47:00.800
Like, I couldn't physically see it or physically feel it because you know I can't live inside your body, but I trust what you're telling me.00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:02.320
Eventually we'll get to it.00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:13.440
It might take a little bit more time to be sure, because we don't want to just you know go rogue and you know start doing all these different treatments when we don't know what's the right treatment.00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:18.000
Yeah, so sometimes it takes patience as well to figure out what's going on.00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:19.280
Yeah, I like that.00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:19.920
I love that.00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.079
So now how can people find you?00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:29.039
I know you're here in Arizona, just yeah, you're out in do you say that you're in like a Gilbert or something?00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:34.480
Well, the office tech it's right on the border, Gilbert and Mesa, it's right by the Mesa Airport.00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:38.559
So on Power and Ray are the crossroads.00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:38.960
Okay.00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:43.679
So we've recently switched our name up to Elite Dental and Wellness.00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:44.079
Okay.00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.639
And really emphasize on the wellness part.00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:47.360
I like that.00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:58.320
Uh the name used to be Elite Smile, so you might still see that name here and there as we uh more transition the new branding and the new office space, which you gotta come see.00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:00.000
I think you'll like it a lot.00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:00.639
Oh, yeah.00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:01.679
Uh I want to fill in.00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:03.280
I'm gonna I want to come in and work there.00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:04.960
That's the only place I want to work now.00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.639
Yeah, so that's the main thing.00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:08.559
You can find us on our website.00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:14.480
Um, I have we're we gotta build up our online presence as well.00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:14.880
Yeah.00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:20.719
A lot of and a lot of people have said and come in recently, like I didn't insane.00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.039
I didn't even know this was a thing.00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.320
Yeah, you weren't hard to find because I was smoking in the beginning.00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:35.920
I like when I was looking for biological dentists, I I found some other ones here, and until I dig deeper, and then I found Elite Smiles, and yeah, and I called and asked all the questions.00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:36.800
That's gotta be easier.00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.760
We gotta be easier to find for sure, which we're working on.00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:44.880
But just in general, these people saying, I didn't even know biological dentistry was a thing.00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:45.440
Yes.00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.639
And it's like, well, okay, that's interesting.00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:50.239
I mean, it's pretty out there.00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:51.920
That's why podcasts so much.00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:53.840
Yeah, there's podcasts like you.00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:56.639
There's like you mentioned, Michelle Jorgensen.00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:57.920
She has a lot of people.00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:59.519
I'm actually gonna have another one, Dr.00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:00.159
Praya.00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:06.480
So I'm becoming the voice for it because I I want to help shift the industry.00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.039
Yeah, I want to bring that awareness.00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.360
And this is why I have you on today in February.00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:14.079
I'm having Dr.00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:14.719
Praya.00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.199
She's called the Whole Tooth Dentist out of Texas.00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:17.760
Nice.00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:19.920
And I met her actually in Sedona.00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:27.039
I hope co-hosted a phys um retreat for dentists in Sedona, and I met her, and she was telling me all about biological dentists.00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:27.920
So I can't wait.00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:40.480
So I think I'll just keep having more and more come on to just like it's I feel like it's the new wave, and we'll have to do a better job, get more out there, and and I can help you when I come work today.00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:42.400
I'll do little reels, I'll do little things.00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.199
Come be our can you be our social media?00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:47.280
Yeah, there you go.00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:48.960
I figured out now.00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.719
Yeah, that'd be great.00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:56.000
But it's it's the way I think things should be and the way it should go.00:49:56.159 --> 00:50:04.480
And it's getting there, but I think as you've experienced and hopefully others, that our office does a good job in delivering that.00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:06.079
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:07.119
And what's the website?00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:12.159
I know I'll have it all in the show notes, but if anyone's listening, what's the so Elite Smilesaz?00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:13.039
Okay.00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.159
So again, that domain might change the name slightly.00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:24.079
But I'll leave it in the show notes, and if it does change, I'll change it in the show notes as well because this episode will be there forever on all platforms.00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.920
So yeah, so elite smilesaz.com.00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:28.400
Okay.00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:34.159
And myself, and uh we have another doctor there, which you've met as well, Dr.00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:35.599
Blake Shreve.00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:38.880
Two wonderful, amazing hygienists.00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:40.639
Hopefully to add a third.00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.920
But yes, they're fans and the whole team.00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:46.880
That's why I they are very knowledgeable.00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.280
I'm now both my kids have gone through.00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:57.840
I'm I have my mom still needs to book, but I, you know, I that's why I had to go first and before I recommend.00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:03.039
But you're honestly uh the only ones I would send my whole family or I recommend.00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:04.000
That's so kind.00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:04.880
Yeah, I appreciate that.00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:06.880
Well, thank you so much for coming today.00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:08.639
I was so fantastic.00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.480
And I hope anyone listening here that was curious about biological dentists, uh, please follow Dr.00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:19.280
Desante in the show notes, the office, or share this episode.00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:24.559
Bring that awareness, give that power, and always trust the mother's intuition.
