Victory! Why Students Have Access to Vegan Milk in Schools Now!

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Did you know that nearly half a billion

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dollars is literally thrown in the trash every

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single year because of a corporate welfare scheme

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in the national school lunch program?

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And according to USDA data, about one-third

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of these cartons are thrown away untouched because

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the kids just don't want them.

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How's that for government waste?

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That's hardly surprising considering one-third of Americans

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are lactose intolerant just like me.

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We've got breaking news to bring you and

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it's excellent news for plant-based milks and

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the people who love them.

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A huge win for plant-based milks.

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Specifically, parents can now demand that their kids

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get vegan milk in school.

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This was a huge battle that went on

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for years and we are talking to the

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leader in this epic saga to get this

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very basic right that should have been available

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to all kids from the get-go.

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Let's go straight out to Dotsie Bausch.

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Give us a backstory, like how did this

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come about?

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Oh my gosh, as I was going down

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the route of starting Switch for Good and

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kind of coming to terms with that we

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were going to focus on one animal food

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group, it was going to be milk, it

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was going to be cow's milk, and that

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was from a history of as an athlete

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having so much cow's milk pushed on myself

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and my teammates and it's made them sick.

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Once I took my blinders off and realized

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what was behind that cow's milk machine and

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what happened to the animals, I said no

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more.

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I'm not a mother, but I have a

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special hatred for stealing mother's milks to give

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to other species in any way, shape, or

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form.

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This idea came to me, we're going to

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change some of it.

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We should try to change all of it

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and that really includes ending the cow's milk

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monopoly that is in schools that started in

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1945 with the Richard B.

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Russell Act when schools were segregated.

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It was only white children that were being

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fed cow's milk and I imagine in the

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very beginning it was good intentions, but 80

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years later it's not okay.

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I called the only person that I know

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that is a powerhouse in Washington and can

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actually get federal legislation passed and that was

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Wayne Pacelli.

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It took me like six months to talk

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him into it because he was like, oh

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god, no, that'll take forever if ever.

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No, no, no.

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We had a long series of conversations and

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we started the journey and we started with

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Representative Troy Carter out of Louisiana.

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He was as passionate as we were about

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getting this changed.

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His entire family is lactose intolerant.

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He hated that this was forced on them.

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That's our man right there and he was

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just ground floor day one, got other representatives

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on board, senators, and it's been quite the

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journey.

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I still can hardly believe it to really

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tell you the truth because you know when

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anybody that's listening that's working on something that's

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longstanding and takes this amount of time, actually

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Wayne told me it takes an average of

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seven years to pass federal legislation, so we

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did it in about four.

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So it's like wow, we're fast.

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What's next?

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But anyway, it's really rewarding to see this

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at the end and the thing that excites

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me the most is yes, we got rid

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of the doctor's note and yes, children have

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access.

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It's a free choice just with a parent's

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note, but what really is exciting that changed

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that really to me ended the cow's milk

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monopoly in schools is that schools now, per

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this bill, per this legislation, they have the

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ability, they have the right, and they can

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choose if they don't have to, but they

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can choose to put plant milk out in

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the lunch line and it doesn't require any

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child to request it.

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They just have that right.

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They can put plant milk out.

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As you know, the fiscal language was embedded

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into the Whole Milk for Healthy Kids Act

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and actually it's the same with whole milk.

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Schools don't have to put whole milk out.

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They may put whole milk out alongside plant

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milk.

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So that's, yeah, because I was talking to

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a friend who's a parent and would like

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to do this and he was confused and

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was like, well, what if I want oat

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milk?

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Can I ask specifically for oat milk or

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can I just ask for plant milk and

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how would I go about that because I

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don't think my school even knows about that.

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So I want to break it down for

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parents who want to take advantage of this.

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They've got a plant-based kid.

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They've got a kid who's lactose intolerant, which

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is, you know, according to the National Institutes

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of Health itself, 68% of humans are

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lactose intolerant or experience lactose malabsorption, but of

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course the devil's in the details.

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So how do we go about it and

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how can we make sure that this law

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is enforced?

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Yeah, that's a great question, Jane.

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I know we're going to kind of go

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into what we're doing about educating the schools

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so that it can be enforced because I

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learned pretty quickly right after the bill passed,

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it was like, oh, wait a minute.

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It's not like the government passes a bill

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in both chambers and then the president signs

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it and then they run around and do

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a marketing campaign to tell all the schools

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what their new rights are or when any

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bill passes of any legislation, right?

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That's not how it works.

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It then again falls on the people who

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work to pass the bill to educate about

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what the bill now offers to the American

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people.

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So we're going to take that into our

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own hands.

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But if a parent says, okay, I want

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Johnny to have plant milk, we are still

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in a situation where it does need to

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be nutritionally equivalent.

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And I hate that for, you know, words

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really, you know, because that makes the bar

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cow's milk, but it has to have the

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same amount of protein.

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So it has to have that eight grams

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of protein per half pint.

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So right now that is only soy milk

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and pea milk.

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But as you know, a lot of the

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plant milk companies that maybe are doing oat

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or almond are innovating and they're putting more

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protein into their, like I said, oat milk

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or almond milk or even cashew milk to

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meet the standards of the national school lunch

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program.

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So they're very detailed about what needs to

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be, what nutrients need to be in these

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milks for the kiddos.

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So right now it's still soy and pea.

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But if a kid wants that, the parents

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can ask the school, hey, you have the

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right.

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They can print out the language to the

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bill.

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I know it's not easy to find bills,

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but you can certainly come to Switch for

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Good and we'll get you all set up.

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But they can go to the school, the

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principal, the teacher, whoever they want to speak

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to and say, I really want Johnny and

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his friends to have access.

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And you now have the right to offer

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that.

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But the school has to want to offer

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it, right?

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It has to put it out on the

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lunch line.

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So if it's not out on the lunch

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line, then the school is required by law

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now to give Johnny the plant milk he

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wants with just a note from parents, not

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from, doesn't need a note from doctor.

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I think there should be some kind of

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packet that kids can walk in, parents can

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walk in or kids and go to the

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principal and say, this is the law here.

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It is right here.

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I'm showing it to you and you need

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to follow the law.

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The reason I mentioned that is in California,

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it is the law that hospitals provide plant

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-based meals to people who are there.

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And I've said this many times on the

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show, people will call me all the time.

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I'm in the hospital.

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They refuse to provide me a plant-based

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meal.

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The nurses don't know about it.

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The people who are delivering the food.

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So if there's a law that is in

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paper that like maybe a packet, here's the

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law, you need to follow it.

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Then I think it's going to have more

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weight because some of these patients have said

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that the people delivering the food are arguing

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with them saying, no, it's not the law.

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I don't have to do that.

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Or, you know, you can have a piece

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of toast with no nothing on it and

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that's going to satisfy.

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So it has to be a substantial meal.

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I think it's a very similar situation here

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in the schools, because just looking at it

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from an administrator standpoint, if somebody comes in

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and demands this, the first thing I would

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have to do is, well, now I have

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to go out and buy that.

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And yeah, I have to buy that.

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Am I going to buy one container or

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am I going to buy it on a

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regular subscription basis?

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So I think that there's got to be

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a way for us to make it easier

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for schools to get this done and maybe

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have them proactively providing this.

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I know they have to figure out the

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demand.

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I mean, you said it perfectly, right?

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It's like how many people are going to

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want this if we put it out in

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the lunch line and nobody takes it because

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nobody knows about it.

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So I couldn't agree more.

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It's not going to be, you know, done

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overnight.

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But I really do feel like we have

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this kind of it's almost like a once

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in a generation opportunity to kind of reshape

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the school lunch experience by educating them.

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And we're going on tour because I don't

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think you can educate digitally in this lane

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as much as you can in person.

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So we are doing a 10 city tour

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to schools.

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It's going to be a team of Olympic

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and professional athletes, and they're going to be

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leading these.

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We're going to show up in a van.

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We're going to lead one hour kind of

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interactive assemblies that get kids excited, packed with

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games and stories and science back lessons about

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plant based nutrition.

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And we're going to teach the students about

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the plant milks, what their new rights are

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and the teachers and the principals and the

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parents, what their new rights are, how to

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build these meals, how to read labels, just

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getting them to really understand and embrace what

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is now their their new freedom.

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And we're starting we're going to do the

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Midwest because we we are we are fairly

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certain that there are a fair amount of

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California schools and even New York schools like

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coastal schools that have been waiting for this

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for a while.

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And so our know that it is happening

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and know their new rights.

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I mean, I wish we could just do

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every school in the whole country, you know,

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but that's going to be a little expensive

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chain.

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So we're doing Kansas City, St. Louis, Mount

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Vernon, Illinois, Louisville, Bowling Green, Nashville, Memphis.

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Wow.

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And then come back up Little Rock, Bentonville.

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Do you literally have this this van here?

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Yes.

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It's an electric.

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Yes, we I should I should say yes.

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Yes, because we are trying to get it

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sponsored.

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So yay, VW Kansas City.

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We love you so much.

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Please say yes.

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But we do have someone that is a

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donor who I actually live with my husband

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who has agreed to buy it from us.

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After we know which can't afford to buy

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to buy electric vehicles.

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Heather Dominic saying come to Indiana.

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Love, love, love this.

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Yes, yes.

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And I very much so hope that this

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is the first of many, right?

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We're going to do it the following fall

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and the following spring and the fall after

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that.

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I mean, it's just no one's going to

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know unless we do it this way.

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But but we are also looking at doing

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exactly what you suggested, which which I think

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is really important, like a packet for schools

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to get so that they really because just

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just with the law alone written, this is

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exactly what your what your new rights are

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and what you can and can't do what

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this exactly allows you or doesn't allow you.

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Important because I was trying to explain it

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to my friend who's a parent and I

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was like, you know what, I can't really

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explain for you how to do this.

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So I think that would be incredible.

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And I think it's fantastic that you're going

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on this justice tour.

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Now, let me ask you.

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One of the biggest arguments is that the

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NIH itself on its own website says 68

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% of humans experience lactose malabsorption, and it

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is higher in communities of color.

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Dr. Milton Mills talks about this.

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Let's listen and discuss how that might play

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into it on the other side.

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70 to 75% of African Americans are

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lactose intolerant.

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And I was having African, African American patients

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coming in, telling me, Doc, my irritable bowel

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is acting up or I've got a spastic

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colon.

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And I talked to them about their symptoms.

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And it was fairly clear to me that

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probably what was going on with them wasn't

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that they actually had spastic colon or irritable

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bowels.

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It was that they were continuing to include

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dairy foods in their diet.

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So I have them go home, do two

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weeks, no dairy, come back and see me.

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And eight to nine out of 10 times,

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the problems had cleared up.

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And so what is the reason that these

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foods are recommended?

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It's marketing, plain and simple.

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Marketing, plain and simple.

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We know, for example, that when it comes

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to the new food pyramid, there was huge

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industry influence on this pyramid, which elevated meats,

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cheese, and dairy to the top left.

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And it sparked outrage.

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Is this something when you're working, for example,

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with this congressman, the dietary racism aspect of

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it that has come into play here?

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And can that be part of the argument

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as you do your tour?

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Yeah.

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Oh, my gosh.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's so cool to see Milton.

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That was 2018 at the launch of Switch

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for Good, actually, when he was talking about

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that.

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And he was really the one that got

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me, I think, just not only excited, but

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really amped up about fighting the dietary racism

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aspect of cow's milk.

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I mean, he's the one that taught me

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everything and the science and showed me how

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to fight when he started getting me involved

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in fighting for a new dietary guidelines in

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2020.

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I think that it makes me crazy that

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it's not openly talked about and known.

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I've talked to, at this point, probably thousands,

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almost a thousand people, young, old, middle-aged,

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wherever they are.

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And if they're lactose intolerant, it's almost as

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if they've had this secret that they've kept.

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Or they say, I think I am.

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I mean, I'm really sick, or I'm on

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the toilet right after, but I love ice

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cream.

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Or that's what they gave me in school.

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Or it's almost the same that serves like

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this hidden hush-hush thing that people have

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that they shouldn't have when you and I

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both know, and all of your listeners know,

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that it is totally and completely normal.

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I'm the weird one.

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I can digest cow's milk if I had

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some right now.

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I did as an athlete in my early

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days.

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I'm lactase persistent.

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I'm a weird, white, Northern European that was

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drinking cow's milk for probably the longest, my

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ancestors.

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And I'm genetically mutated.

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That's weird, right?

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The people that can't digest milk from any

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species after infancy are totally and completely normal.

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And this, in the United States, and I'll

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say mostly probably our government is the one

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that twisted this and made it seem weird

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or sound weird and people feel weird or

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guilty even if they have lactose intolerance.

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So it's just been a whole education journey,

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right?

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Because no one really knew.

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We're getting a lot of questions.

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Naja Roy Brown says, are these organizations promoting

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the bill focusing on Black and Brown communities?

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I don't see it.

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Come to these communities and collaborate with the

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Black Veg Society.

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You've already got another collaborator.

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Yes, definitely.

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No, we had early adoption from the Black

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Veg Society on this bill.

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We have about 200 organizations that signed on

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to this bill in NAACP.

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And I'm pretty sure you guys signed on

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to it early on and were behind it.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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I couldn't agree more.

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And yes, there'll be many, many, many, many

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Black students and Black parents that we will

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be able to reach and be in front

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of on this tour.

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And we're beyond excited about that.

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Yes.

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One of the amazing things that you've done

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with Switch for Good is show how many

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athletes have rejected dairy.

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You're an Olympic cyclist, but there are others.

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Let's go to another one of your incredible

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videos, which are streaming on Shade TV as

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well, and discuss on the other side.

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When I gave up dairy, it was the

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single biggest change that I had felt in

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my body.

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Unless you're a baby cow, you shouldn't be

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drinking cow's milk.

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The biggest way that I saw my performance

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change when I dropped dairy was in my

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recovery.

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I don't think dairy is a part of

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an Olympic diet.

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I was recovering better, and it was a

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hugely transformational shift for me.

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I started just feeling like a machine.

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There are so many reasons to remove dairy

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products from your diet.

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Ditch the dairy.

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So by the way, I urge everybody, go

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to Switch for Good.

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I've been poking around all day and yesterday

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researching this.

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There's such a wealth of information, but it

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seems like the industry drumbeat, we know, we

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know that industry had a huge impact.

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Something like seven of the people who were

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influential in creating these upside down pyramid had

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industry ties.

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It's outrageous, but I just want to say

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that it seems like the outrage is not

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sufficient.

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It's not sufficient.

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People are sort of accepting this new food

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pyramid and not really focusing on the fact

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that there was all this meat and dairy

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and big pharma influence.

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Yeah, right.

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Well, I know.

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I can only speak through the lens of

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someone who's so experienced in this, and that's

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Dr. Christopher Gardner, because we just recorded him

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on the Switch for Good podcast like a

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few days ago.

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It'll come out in the next, I think,

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week or two, because he was on the

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scientific advisory board that spent almost two years

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working on all the science and all the

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data that would discern the new dietary guidelines.

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They have this every five years, right?

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They put this scientific advisory board together and

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they work for free a Zoom a week,

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right?

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There's almost a hundred Zooms or over a

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hundred Zooms.

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And then the scientific advisory council hands their

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materials over to HHS and USDA to then

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complete and release the final guidelines.

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So what happened this time was they turned

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it over and they basically just tore up,

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ignored what the scientific advisory board suggested to

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happen.

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It almost looks completely different.

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They ripped it all up and then you

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know what we have, really a 10 page

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website that doesn't really work.

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But I will tell you that Christopher Gardner

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did say, and I agree with you, James,

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this is super obvious, six out of nine

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have direct ties to big meats and big

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dairy and big cheese and all of it.

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But Christopher did say, all of us suit

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food scientists.

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He said, at some point in our career,

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we helped to guide a food group or

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a food company or however you want to

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say it.

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And we took money.

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He said, the only person that is alive

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today that has never taken a dime is

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Marion Nestle.

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And I didn't realize that.

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I'm not saying that that's good or bad

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or any judgment, but just that that is

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typical.

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Let me go to a New York Times

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article from yesterday and my comment.

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So it was an article about the food

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and cancer dangers.

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And it actually was very good when it

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comes to the dangers of meat.

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Processed meat is officially cancer causing.

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Red meat is a likely carcinogen.

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This is according to the World Health Organization

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and all sorts of organizations.

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But then it goes on to say, and

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we invite the author of the New York

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Times on anytime, dairy and the calcium in

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it appears to lower colorectal cancer risk as

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part of a broader healthy diet.

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Full fat dairy, which was recently endorsed in

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new federal dietary guidelines, was also associated with

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reduced inflammation and insulin resistance in some studies.

546
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,480
Now, my response, which they did publish, great

547
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,600
article that says what everyone should know, processed

548
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,600
meat causes cancer.

549
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,360
Red meat probably causes cancer.

550
00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:36,920
However, promoting dairy was a big flaw in

551
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,340
an otherwise sensible article.

552
00:21:38,740 --> 00:21:41,620
The NIH itself says most people, 68%

553
00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:44,420
at least, experienced lactose malabsorption.

554
00:21:44,820 --> 00:21:47,040
That's another way of saying most people are

555
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:47,900
allergic to dairy.

556
00:21:48,260 --> 00:21:50,040
We should stay away from it and take

557
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,960
advantage of zero cholesterol plant-based milk alternatives.

558
00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:55,420
We are not cows, do not need to

559
00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:56,940
consume the breast milk of cows.

560
00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,240
But what I should have added is, why

561
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,700
are you referring to the new dietary guidelines

562
00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:05,760
without talking about how controversial they are and

563
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,420
how dairy and meat and big pharma had

564
00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:11,620
a big influence in creating them?

565
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,860
That's the New York Times.

566
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:13,740
Right.

567
00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:14,220
I know.

568
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:18,120
And we have a solid amount of data,

569
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,080
I'll say, on dairy causing prostate cancer and

570
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,260
ovarian cancer, hormonal-based cancers.

571
00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:25,400
We have plenty of data.

572
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,780
You and I have been over it multiple

573
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:28,060
times on both of our shows.

574
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,200
So not mentioning that is criminal, in my

575
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:31,500
opinion.

576
00:22:32,380 --> 00:22:34,600
Well, reach out to the New York Times

577
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,420
because you, as somebody who's leading this, would

578
00:22:37,420 --> 00:22:39,120
have much more sway than me.

579
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:46,400
But I was shocked that, please, everybody's talking

580
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,720
about how controversial these food guidelines are.

581
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,440
And then to cite them without talking about

582
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,280
the controversy, to me, was like, hello, this

583
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,880
is not some blog somewhere.

584
00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:58,980
This is the New York Times.

585
00:22:59,060 --> 00:23:01,460
And again, I invite you and the author

586
00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:03,080
of that article on any time.

587
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,880
But just to give you an idea of

588
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,500
some of the controversy surrounding it, let's play

589
00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:10,840
one of my favorite social media influencers.

590
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,520
Danny is sharing.

591
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:11,720
All right.

592
00:23:11,780 --> 00:23:13,460
So many of you sent me the bizarre

593
00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:16,200
vegan section in RFK's new dietary guidelines.

594
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,740
So let's cover a few things.

595
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,160
It is genuinely mind-blowing how magnesium, riboflavin,

596
00:23:21,380 --> 00:23:24,840
and vitamin B6 were categorized under broader shortfalls

597
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,940
in vegan diets.

598
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,240
When it comes to nutrients of concern or

599
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,900
high intake between meat eaters and vegans, it's

600
00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:32,460
meat eaters who are at a risk of

601
00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:34,920
low magnesium intake while vegans are the opposite.

602
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,180
And I have no clue how this administration

603
00:23:37,180 --> 00:23:40,400
thinks that vegan diets show shortfalls with riboflavin.

604
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600
There are just so many vegan sources of

605
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,360
riboflavin.

606
00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:47,960
Lastly, they included vitamin B6, which, like magnesium,

607
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,820
is a nutrient of favorably high intake for

608
00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:51,260
vegans.

609
00:23:51,260 --> 00:23:52,920
And on top of that, the highest source

610
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,580
of B6 is chickpeas.

611
00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:59,720
So look, we don't get into politics here,

612
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,060
but I mean, come on, this is a

613
00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,200
direct attack on veganism.

614
00:24:05,260 --> 00:24:06,780
Yeah, it sure feels like it.

615
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,220
I know with the B vitamins, especially B12,

616
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:12,900
I'm always just amazed at the reaction that

617
00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:14,920
I get when I explain what it is,

618
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,040
B12, because I guess, you know, I didn't

619
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,060
know before I came down this rabbit hole

620
00:24:19,060 --> 00:24:21,160
deep, but it's a microorganism.

621
00:24:21,260 --> 00:24:23,300
It's a living microorganism, and we get it

622
00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:25,180
from our streams and our rivers and our

623
00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:25,560
soil.

624
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,000
And so because we are bleaching our streams

625
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,300
and rivers and soil with our detergents and

626
00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:35,200
all of the chemicals and processes that we

627
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,440
put into them, actually, meat eaters really need

628
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,140
to be taking B12 too, because how did

629
00:24:42,140 --> 00:24:42,920
they get it before?

630
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,620
How did they get it, I guess I

631
00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:47,460
should say, by eating animal flesh, right?

632
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,460
But it's not from the animal flesh, it's

633
00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:52,300
because the cow ate it from, you know,

634
00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:53,440
drinking from the stream.

635
00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:57,600
And now we're hardly almost, it's almost non

636
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,040
-existent.

637
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,220
So all of us need to be making

638
00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:02,700
a supplement, which is sad, but it's not

639
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,040
looking at where the source is.

640
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,420
They just assume that the source is the

641
00:25:07,420 --> 00:25:09,300
cow itself.

642
00:25:09,660 --> 00:25:11,720
And it's not, the cow's eating the B12.

643
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,040
So that's just a good example of one

644
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,140
nutrient that I think we misunderstand and meters

645
00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:20,060
like, well, those vegans, they don't get B12.

646
00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:21,060
It's like, no, no, no.

647
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,100
Well, what I like to point out is

648
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:26,180
that vitamins and supplements are a multi-billion

649
00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:29,240
dollar industry and 99.999% of the

650
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,980
people taking those supplements are not vegans, right?

651
00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:36,560
So right there, it's just like, you know,

652
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:39,080
you go into a hospital and you've got

653
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,660
a sprained wrist and sometimes a doctor will

654
00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:43,200
try to make that about you being vegan.

655
00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:44,680
Well, what about all the people lined up

656
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,240
in gurneys out here and they're not vegan?

657
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,420
Does that connect to their eating meat?

658
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,980
Or for example, when God forbid, a vegan

659
00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:56,140
commits a crime, suddenly it's the vegan committing

660
00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:56,520
the crime.

661
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,040
Well, what about all the meat eaters committing

662
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,460
the crime?

663
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,420
They never mentioned that those people eat meat.

664
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,480
You know, there's a society.

665
00:26:02,740 --> 00:26:03,120
It's so true.

666
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,120
A meat eating criminal.

667
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:05,700
Right.

668
00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:06,820
Exactly.

669
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:09,400
And we're so much, such a large part

670
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,680
of the population now that yes, occasionally we're

671
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,160
going to get some bad apples as it

672
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,760
were, right?

673
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:17,080
But getting back to your good news, I

674
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,040
really want to just, if I were a

675
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,060
parent, which I'm not, I'm a parent of

676
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:25,360
two rescue dogs and a rescue cat.

677
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:26,780
But if I was a parent of a

678
00:26:26,780 --> 00:26:29,400
human child and I wanted to make sure

679
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,020
that my child, my son or daughter got

680
00:26:33,020 --> 00:26:35,940
that plant-based milk, what would you say

681
00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:36,780
to do?

682
00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:41,960
You're going to march into the school and

683
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,340
you're going to tell them that a new

684
00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:46,340
law just passed and was signed in the

685
00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:47,720
beginning of January by the president.

686
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:49,720
And it is now federal legislation.

687
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,600
They can print it out if they want

688
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,020
to, that you can do that on the

689
00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:53,840
government website.

690
00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:55,420
But if you come to Switch for Good,

691
00:26:55,460 --> 00:26:57,960
we'll have just a little one pager for

692
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,820
you, because this has inspired me to make

693
00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:02,580
sure that we do that now, not tomorrow,

694
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,720
Jane, because it is a little bit confusing

695
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,420
because the news is all over the place

696
00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:09,060
and you're not quite sure, but you're going

697
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:10,340
to walk into your school and you're going

698
00:27:10,340 --> 00:27:11,960
to say, Johnny, I don't know why I

699
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,860
always use Johnny.

700
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,940
Johnny and or Sarah want to have soy

701
00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:19,180
milk.

702
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,720
They need to have soy milk.

703
00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:25,460
And I would appreciate it if you would

704
00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:28,240
offer it in the lunch line so that

705
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,700
they don't have to feel weird and niche.

706
00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:33,000
They can feel like they're with all the

707
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,960
kids because you now have the right as

708
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,240
a U.S. public school to put soy

709
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,820
milk and pea milk out in the lunch

710
00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:42,160
line for children to choose from.

711
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,880
It's healthier.

712
00:27:43,060 --> 00:27:43,940
It's better for you.

713
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,740
A parent can certainly go that really kind

714
00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:48,820
of knows their stuff about nutrition, how much

715
00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:52,140
more nutrition is available in plant milk and

716
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:55,300
how it's not going to make almost anyone

717
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:56,420
sick that we know of.

718
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:56,680
Right.

719
00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,440
Compared to lactose intolerant in cow's milk, intolerance

720
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,000
in cow's milk.

721
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,460
And they have that right to put it

722
00:28:03,460 --> 00:28:03,720
out.

723
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,120
In addition, if the parent doesn't want to

724
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,660
go that far, because I realize that's kind

725
00:28:08,660 --> 00:28:10,560
of really pushing the school to do something.

726
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:12,240
And, you know, you're going to it's more

727
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,560
if you just want to make sure that

728
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,100
your kid has it, you can go to

729
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,660
the school and say every single lunch, I

730
00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:19,200
want him to have soy milk.

731
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,380
Here's my note.

732
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:20,980
Goodbye.

733
00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:24,120
And they have to provide it every single

734
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:24,780
meal.

735
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,160
I have two questions.

736
00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:28,720
One is the government required to send out

737
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,320
a notification to all the schools.

738
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,180
And obviously this is public schools, government or

739
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:38,440
government schools that get government funding because private

740
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,800
schools may not have to apply.

741
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:42,480
Follow this.

742
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:43,500
Correct.

743
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:44,100
Okay.

744
00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:47,640
So is the government required to send out

745
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,220
a notice to the principals and the food

746
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:52,200
directors of all public schools?

747
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,040
Is this K through 12?

748
00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:58,420
And when would that notice go out if

749
00:28:58,420 --> 00:28:58,680
so?

750
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,940
It's K through 12.

751
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,280
And I don't know why this just isn't

752
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,140
readily available information, but we've been asking.

753
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,220
And as far as the answers that we've

754
00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:12,600
gotten, no, not at all.

755
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,420
They are not at all required to send

756
00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:16,840
out a note on a law that's passed

757
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,960
federally, anybody, schools or companies, you know, there's

758
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,140
a laws passed every day.

759
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,380
I think we think where they get nothing

760
00:29:23,380 --> 00:29:25,100
done, but there is a law passed almost

761
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:25,660
every day.

762
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,540
And they are not required to then go

763
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:29,580
shout from the rooftops.

764
00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:33,080
Now, second question, how long do the schools

765
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,120
have to comply?

766
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:36,880
Because I could see, and this happens all

767
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,540
the time.

768
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow creeps us petty pace from

769
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,840
day to day, right?

770
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,440
To quote Shakespeare, they'll say, yeah, we'll work

771
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:45,820
on it.

772
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,580
And then two weeks later, where's the soy

773
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:48,880
milk?

774
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,720
So how does the law address the timeframe

775
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,280
that these schools have to comply?

776
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,840
No, it's right now.

777
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,300
It was signed into law.

778
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,640
It is the current law as it stands

779
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,540
that they have to give it to a

780
00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:06,080
kid with just a parent's note.

781
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,580
And if they so choose, they may put

782
00:30:07,580 --> 00:30:09,340
it out in the lunch line today.

783
00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:10,820
Okay.

784
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,140
And so is there a recourse if a

785
00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:15,240
school fails to do it after a certain

786
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,860
point where a parent, aside from filing a

787
00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:21,760
lawsuit could say you're, you're in violation of

788
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,080
the law?

789
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:25,560
No, there is, there is no language in

790
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,580
the bill that has a period of time

791
00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:29,340
that if the school doesn't do it as

792
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:31,920
a parent can, I'm sure they can complain,

793
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,240
but they can't sue them or they won't

794
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,740
win if they sue them because now there

795
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:37,020
is no language like that.

796
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,880
Well, I think your tour at your, and

797
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,620
somebody asked, why is it called the justice

798
00:30:42,620 --> 00:30:42,980
tour?

799
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:46,360
Well, for, for justice, for kids, not to

800
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,920
be forced or encouraged to drink milk, that's

801
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,760
going to make them sick.

802
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,620
But I think your tour is more important

803
00:30:52,620 --> 00:30:54,600
than ever because I hate to sound cynical,

804
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,980
but, uh, I think a lot of these

805
00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:01,700
schools are going to possibly say, let's hope

806
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,060
nobody notices and continue business as usual until

807
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:08,720
somebody makes it very clear that they are

808
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,580
required to do this and they should do

809
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:15,480
it proactively, not wait for a parent, a

810
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,080
parent's note that they should proactively provide a

811
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,420
certain percentage of this milk.

812
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Now there, the complexity, of course, government contractors,

813
00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:25,940
right?

814
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,540
These schools aren't going to be running down

815
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,140
to the local health food store to grab

816
00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:30,880
some soy milk.

817
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:33,940
Um, is there any information about how they

818
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:35,180
would work with contractors?

819
00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:38,940
Obviously when you contract at a large scale,

820
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,840
you achieve economies of scale.

821
00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:45,800
And so I would think that just like

822
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,380
the USDA pushes dairy like crazy, that if

823
00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:54,240
they want to be fair, um, that they

824
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,760
would provide a distributor and a distribution system

825
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,740
for this soy, that it could get into

826
00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:03,840
every school system.

827
00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:05,100
Yeah.

828
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,280
Well, they, currently the schools work with, um,

829
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,380
Silk and Ripple because, so, so, cause you

830
00:32:12,380 --> 00:32:13,600
know, as you know, you could get it,

831
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,920
but with the doctor's note before, um, that

832
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,400
was it, right?

833
00:32:16,420 --> 00:32:17,040
There was no other way.

834
00:32:17,140 --> 00:32:18,160
It couldn't be put on the lunch line.

835
00:32:18,220 --> 00:32:18,580
No way.

836
00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:20,360
It's, it had to be this special, very

837
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,520
niche, you know, they had to go to

838
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,320
the doctor and get a note.

839
00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:25,300
Um, and if you presented that, then you

840
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:27,260
could get, uh, so they, they, they currently

841
00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:30,060
have, um, some of the, uh, big distributors

842
00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:32,480
that they work with, meaning the NSLP, the

843
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,540
National School Lunch Program.

844
00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:35,520
So I am assuming they're going to continue

845
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360
to work with those distributors.

846
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:40,840
It does open up doors for other distributors

847
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120
to, um, compete for the business.

848
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960
And I certainly hope that that happens.

849
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,580
We're in the midst of, um, speaking with

850
00:32:50,580 --> 00:32:52,260
different plant milk companies to come on the

851
00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:53,980
tour with us, because to me, that is

852
00:32:53,980 --> 00:32:55,760
a, it's a, it's a huge aspect of

853
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,960
the tour for the kiddos to be able

854
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,740
to taste, right.

855
00:32:57,740 --> 00:32:58,160
They've got it.

856
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,680
They have, they have to have a single,

857
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,500
um, like we're hoping for just like less

858
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:04,840
than half a pint, just so that the

859
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,160
kids can taste, um, uh, single, uh, you

860
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,320
know, cartons of, of the different milks and

861
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,120
we want to do all of it because

862
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,760
it, you know, we don't, it doesn't just

863
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,660
have to be soy and pee.

864
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Like families have the ability to, to, to

865
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,800
go by at the grocery store.

866
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,520
They, they taste it and they love it.

867
00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:23,760
And they make, it makes their stomach feel

868
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:23,960
great.

869
00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:25,480
They have energy afterwards and they're going to

870
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,020
talk about it.

871
00:33:26,020 --> 00:33:27,440
They're going to tell their parents and their

872
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,780
friends and their parents, friends.

873
00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:30,600
And that's, that's how it all works.

874
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,700
So we're working with the, the plant milk

875
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:34,680
companies to, to, to, to support us.

876
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,900
I mean, we're like a roving marketing vehicle

877
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:37,600
for that, right?

878
00:33:37,660 --> 00:33:39,440
Like it's hard for me to imagine that

879
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,460
any of them were going to say no,

880
00:33:40,460 --> 00:33:43,020
but, um, I just sent out all of

881
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:43,700
the requests yesterday.

882
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,120
So I'll ask you guys what you're doing

883
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,640
is so important.

884
00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:50,740
So important.

885
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,580
The followup, it's all about the followup and

886
00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:57,840
getting in this vehicle right here and taking

887
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,320
off and going from state to state and

888
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,640
letting people know.

889
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,980
And, you know, I would say have a

890
00:34:03,980 --> 00:34:06,800
news conference at every, every city you go

891
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,420
to have a, have a conference and get

892
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:10,760
the local news out there.

893
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,260
You're an Olympic athlete.

894
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,159
You're a celebrity.

895
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Um, you know, you are really, um, letting

896
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,600
everybody know, because as you just said, the

897
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,340
U S government, while it passed, this law

898
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:25,219
is not sending any message to the school,

899
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:26,639
letting them know that this law exists.

900
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:28,739
And unless they're psychic, how would they know?

901
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:32,840
I looked, uh, mainstream media to try to

902
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,300
find this story.

903
00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:37,540
And it was usually a tiny line buried

904
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:39,580
under the whole food, healthy milks act.

905
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,960
Uh, and Oh, by the way, they can

906
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,020
also offer soy milk.

907
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,960
Let's change the subject right away because we

908
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,820
all know that mainstream media has been co

909
00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:49,800
-opted by the meat dairy and big pharma

910
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,380
industry.

911
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Look at the advertisers.

912
00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:53,620
I often joke.

913
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,679
I can't even have dinner watching the news

914
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:59,720
because every single commercial is about somebody with

915
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:03,600
terrible intestinal problems and the side effects of

916
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,740
taking whatever drug they're going to take.

917
00:35:05,740 --> 00:35:07,180
And it's gross.

918
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,560
And I'm like, Oh my God, can't people

919
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,920
do the camp that people connect the dots

920
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,260
and see the reason why this isn't being

921
00:35:14,260 --> 00:35:17,360
discussed is because those commercials are keeping the

922
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,060
lights on.

923
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,060
Yeah, no doubt.

924
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:20,420
I know.

925
00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:22,000
And it's, it's bipartisan.

926
00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:23,700
Nobody talks about it.

927
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,420
Nobody.

928
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Yeah.

929
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,720
I know we did so much PR when

930
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,460
this passed and you know, the incredible vegan

931
00:35:30,460 --> 00:35:31,320
media picks it up.

932
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:32,820
But I mean, it's just like, yeah, they

933
00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:34,240
just, it's like, they just like hot potato.

934
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:35,960
They, they, they won't touch it.

935
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:39,560
And, um, it's, I think it, the Kendrick

936
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,180
Ferris is coming with us on tour.

937
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,160
Um, who is that saw in the video,

938
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:46,680
the three times on the right.

939
00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:48,500
Yes.

940
00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:51,080
So he came and lobbied like our second

941
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,320
to last time we were in Washington.

942
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,320
I mean, I think I was there maybe

943
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,960
nine times over, you know, three and a

944
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,680
half years of lobbying.

945
00:35:57,060 --> 00:35:59,980
And, uh, his story, I mean, he has

946
00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:05,560
a personal, uh, incredibly difficult to hear story

947
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,280
about this when he was a little kid

948
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,740
and how sick it was making him and,

949
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,220
and, and the milk, the cow's milk, and

950
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:12,540
no one knew what was wrong.

951
00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:14,100
And no, I, you know, it's just, it's

952
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,820
such a personal story and he has a

953
00:36:15,820 --> 00:36:18,240
family now and he's able to, to educate.

954
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,560
So he's, he's pretty excited to go with

955
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,140
us and he is living proof that you

956
00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:23,060
can be strong.

957
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:26,740
He's three time Olympic weightlifter for the United

958
00:36:26,740 --> 00:36:27,180
States.

959
00:36:27,340 --> 00:36:30,720
Like the guy is not small, but I

960
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,300
will say brainstorming live.

961
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,020
We've come up with some really great ideas,

962
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:40,340
just discussing it and having people comment.

963
00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:43,520
And we are getting comments from folks saying,

964
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:45,960
you know, we have to do this, uh,

965
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,660
et cetera.

966
00:36:47,220 --> 00:36:48,360
Uh, here we go.

967
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,200
Uh, Jane, we must work in promoting this

968
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,240
soy milk availability.

969
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:54,920
Nobody else is going to do it.

970
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,540
I agree.

971
00:36:57,140 --> 00:36:58,980
Uh, having been in the news media myself,

972
00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:04,600
stunts always, especially in smaller towns, stunts, uh,

973
00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:06,660
can sometimes bring the media.

974
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,920
Like if he were to do some kind

975
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,560
of athletic demonstration outside the school, uh, you

976
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,240
know, something that is a visual because the

977
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,960
way these news media organizations work is the

978
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,580
Simon editor is just some guy or gal

979
00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:22,180
sitting there.

980
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,460
Uh, the only reason she might send a

981
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:27,320
crew is, am I going to get in

982
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,180
trouble if I don't send the crew and

983
00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:30,860
my competition sends the crew?

984
00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:32,660
And then my news director says, why didn't

985
00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:33,240
you have this?

986
00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:34,440
That's the mentality.

987
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:38,400
It's totally 100% value three.

988
00:37:38,580 --> 00:37:41,460
It has nothing to do with, is this

989
00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:43,580
really important to our world?

990
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:45,540
No, they value neutral.

991
00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:49,520
So if there's something that you would say,

992
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,400
Hmm, if somebody didn't cover this, they might

993
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,180
get in trouble.

994
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,720
Then that might be something that would, you

995
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,580
know, and it has to happen dramatically at

996
00:37:57,580 --> 00:37:58,880
the top of 12 noon.

997
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,000
So that maybe it could be live, you

998
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,460
know, he's going to do some kind of

999
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:04,360
physical demonstration.

1000
00:38:04,780 --> 00:38:06,900
It's sad, but that's the kind of thing,

1001
00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:09,120
um, you know, that works.

1002
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,700
Uh, and sometimes not always, but it can

1003
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:16,040
in smaller markets, especially where if you did

1004
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520
something like that in LA, well, we're, we've

1005
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,200
got, so we're tripping over celebrities, but they're

1006
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,580
not in certain areas.

1007
00:38:22,580 --> 00:38:26,680
Uh, so, you know, uh, I think throw

1008
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,940
everything at the wall and see what sticks

1009
00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:31,060
because I think this is one of the

1010
00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:32,680
most important developments.

1011
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:37,980
Uh, and you know, uh, the dairy industry

1012
00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:40,680
also props up the meat industry, as you

1013
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,260
well know.

1014
00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:44,820
So the dairy cows become the cheap hamburger

1015
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:49,120
and the dairy industry only exists because of

1016
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,900
government support.

1017
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,100
And a lot of that government support is

1018
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,740
shoving it down the throats of school kids,

1019
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,200
or as you've often said, giving it to

1020
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,680
school kids who throw it in the garbage.

1021
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,700
But if that were to crumble, I see

1022
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:03,840
it.

1023
00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:07,200
I see the entire big meat, big dairy,

1024
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,680
big pharma complex as a house of cards

1025
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,600
that could crumble.

1026
00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:13,700
So I honestly think Dotsie, that this is

1027
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:18,200
possibly the most important thing, anything Unchained TV

1028
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,260
can do to help in this regard.

1029
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,360
Um, we're there because I can't think of

1030
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:23,700
anything.

1031
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:25,960
I can't think of anything more important than

1032
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,000
what you're doing right now.

1033
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:29,720
Yeah, no, that, that was kind of my

1034
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:31,720
thinking in starting switch and focusing on dairy

1035
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,860
is knowing how many people dairy maize makes

1036
00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:37,280
sick, whether they know it or not yet,

1037
00:39:37,660 --> 00:39:40,120
um, that it's an end to the whole

1038
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,540
entire house of cards crumbling.

1039
00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:44,540
Like you just said, that was, that was,

1040
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,860
that was, that's always been the intent, right?

1041
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:48,180
Like we're the fire starter.

1042
00:39:48,340 --> 00:39:50,760
Cause it, you know, it's, it's, you know,

1043
00:39:50,860 --> 00:39:52,360
some of the other animal foods don't make

1044
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,820
people immediately sick and right.

1045
00:39:53,860 --> 00:39:55,060
People care about immediate, right?

1046
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,040
Like down the row, they have prostate cancer,

1047
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,960
but right now you have a glass of

1048
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,120
milk.

1049
00:39:59,260 --> 00:40:01,380
You have 70% of the entire population

1050
00:40:01,380 --> 00:40:03,240
of the world who is going to have

1051
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:03,580
the shifts.

1052
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,760
I mean, it's just, it's so it's such

1053
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,280
a large percentage.

1054
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:09,480
I do want to clarify something because I

1055
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,320
think that people are misinformed.

1056
00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:15,260
Um, and thank you Ruta for being here.

1057
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,620
I think she's incorrect when she says this,

1058
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:21,100
can you clarify what she has said versus

1059
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,320
what is the law?

1060
00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:26,300
She is saying, it's not a requirement.

1061
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:28,320
They are given the right.

1062
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,820
That's a hundred percent.

1063
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,440
What I said a hundred percent.

1064
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Yes, she's correct.

1065
00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:33,580
Yes.

1066
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,840
But it's a, it's a requirement if it's

1067
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,540
requested.

1068
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,400
Yes.

1069
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,140
For this one kid, that's right.

1070
00:40:42,580 --> 00:40:46,280
Schools have the rights, the kids, it is

1071
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,240
required if they say that they need it,

1072
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:49,880
right?

1073
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,920
Schools are required to put out plant milk

1074
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,160
or whole milk.

1075
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,880
They are required to put out low fat

1076
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,860
milk, but they have the right to decide

1077
00:41:00,860 --> 00:41:03,000
to put out whole milk and plant milk

1078
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,080
in the lunch line.

1079
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Well, let's give Ruta a shout out.

1080
00:41:06,060 --> 00:41:06,980
She got it right.

1081
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,280
So we basically, that makes it even more

1082
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,500
important for every school to have one parent

1083
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,140
and child to go in there and say,

1084
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,200
I want soy milk.

1085
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:21,140
Because if you look at the purchasing mechanism,

1086
00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:24,420
they have to buy more than one, one,

1087
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,960
uh, carton of soy milk, you know?

1088
00:41:27,220 --> 00:41:30,120
So that, that means that they have to

1089
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,300
institute the purchase of a batch of soy

1090
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:37,040
milk and therefore it would only be right

1091
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,300
for them to put it all out.

1092
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,440
If they purchased a whole bunch of soy

1093
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,540
milk and then they kept it hidden and

1094
00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:44,940
only gave that one to the kid and

1095
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:46,900
let the other, other rest of the soy

1096
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:49,060
milk go bad, uh, even though we know

1097
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:50,400
it takes a long time for soy milk

1098
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,520
to go bad, but that would be, um,

1099
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,780
a proactive waste of US government taxpayer money

1100
00:41:57,780 --> 00:42:00,420
and a sabotage of the spirit of the

1101
00:42:00,420 --> 00:42:00,620
law.

1102
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,220
So I feel like it's very important to

1103
00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:08,260
have one individual in every single school, go

1104
00:42:08,260 --> 00:42:10,460
up there and demand it and then track

1105
00:42:10,460 --> 00:42:13,620
it because once they track it, they can,

1106
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:14,800
they can report back.

1107
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,080
Yeah.

1108
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,880
It took them three weeks or it took

1109
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,760
them three hours.

1110
00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:19,100
Right.

1111
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,560
Yeah.

1112
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,280
Yeah.

1113
00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:21,900
You're right about your show.

1114
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,920
Um, encouraging ideas.

1115
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,060
I like that.

1116
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,860
I think that that should be part of

1117
00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:27,320
our tour.

1118
00:42:27,460 --> 00:42:29,320
It's, you know, maybe we can, it's almost

1119
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,680
like a, a, a, a, a mini campaign

1120
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,220
on the tour where we're inspiring every single

1121
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:36,440
parent that, that wants it to, to, to

1122
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,460
go in and say something.

1123
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:37,840
Right.

1124
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,720
Because it's, it's not going to work if

1125
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:40,400
that doesn't happen.

1126
00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:42,860
And I also like your idea about Kendrick.

1127
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:43,980
I don't know if he's going to like

1128
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:47,120
our idea, but I mean, it's pretty cool

1129
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,280
to see him lift that much weight.

1130
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:50,220
I mean, he's not going to do what

1131
00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:50,400
he did.

1132
00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:51,000
The Olympics, right.

1133
00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:52,400
That would have to start training again.

1134
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,340
But the other one we're trying, the other

1135
00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:56,200
vegan athlete that we're trying to get is

1136
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,060
Diana Tracy, who I'm sure you know, who

1137
00:42:58,060 --> 00:43:00,360
that is six time Olympic gold basketball, because

1138
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,020
I just keep envisioning are pulling up in

1139
00:43:04,020 --> 00:43:04,680
the, in the van.

1140
00:43:04,820 --> 00:43:05,620
There's a big assembly.

1141
00:43:05,860 --> 00:43:08,920
We go into what is always the basketball

1142
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,100
court, right at the assembly and the bleachers

1143
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,360
around that and her playing with the kiddos

1144
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,000
and getting them excited about plant milk.

1145
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,480
So, okay.

1146
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:19,820
Well, I'll just shout out to anybody that

1147
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:20,380
knows her.

1148
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,380
We're trying to get her.

1149
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:24,580
I would say also when I'm thinking about

1150
00:43:24,580 --> 00:43:28,680
what would make an impression, Nimae Delgado taking

1151
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,200
his shirt off and doing those pushups or

1152
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,920
those- This is middle school, Jane.

1153
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,940
This is middle school.

1154
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,940
This is not high school.

1155
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,480
He's very sexy when he takes off his

1156
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:39,760
shirt.

1157
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:42,120
Yeah, but a good body is a good

1158
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,560
body.

1159
00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:45,220
You know, I mean, she has living proof

1160
00:43:45,220 --> 00:43:49,660
that, and there's others, Tori Washington, you know,

1161
00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:53,180
you could have a rotating cast of characters.

1162
00:43:53,180 --> 00:43:55,520
We're having a naked justice tour and we're

1163
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,940
coming to a school near you.

1164
00:43:58,460 --> 00:43:59,100
Yeah.

1165
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:02,100
I could even see- So shirtless, I

1166
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:02,580
should say.

1167
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:09,680
We've been having discussions about songs because there's

1168
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,640
a push to create vegan anthems.

1169
00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:13,960
And I've written a few songs myself.

1170
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,880
Texas is going vegan with Renee King sewn

1171
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,620
in and Be Kind Already.

1172
00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:24,460
But what about a song celebrating this?

1173
00:44:24,660 --> 00:44:27,680
A rap song celebrating the fact that you

1174
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,160
can ask for soy milk.

1175
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,460
You can ask for plant-based milks.

1176
00:44:34,580 --> 00:44:36,280
I think a kid, you could have a

1177
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,480
competition.

1178
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:40,120
Who could come up with the soy milk

1179
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,800
or the plant milk school anthem?

1180
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:46,340
Anthem.

1181
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,980
You know, you're probably- I love that.

1182
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,080
You're going to have to write it though,

1183
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,620
because you do not want me writing songs.

1184
00:44:52,860 --> 00:44:55,120
That is not going to be good.

1185
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,240
I want to sign off.

1186
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,260
This is getting crazy.

1187
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,620
But, you know, it's a good idea.

1188
00:45:00,660 --> 00:45:02,600
Somebody's listening who is a great songwriter.

1189
00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:04,080
I feel certain about that.

1190
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,980
Yeah, because I just went to an event.

1191
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,120
Unchained TV was one of the sponsors of

1192
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,620
an event with the plant-based treaty rap

1193
00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:13,020
song.

1194
00:45:13,380 --> 00:45:15,840
So it's not that crazy in the sense

1195
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,660
that the plant-based treaty just came out

1196
00:45:17,660 --> 00:45:18,380
with a rap song.

1197
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,600
So, yeah, I think we've covered so much

1198
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,040
ground.

1199
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,980
I just want to say, Dotsie, you are

1200
00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:26,740
my hero.

1201
00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:31,460
You are on the ground and in the

1202
00:45:31,460 --> 00:45:31,920
van.

1203
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,020
We've got to show the van one more

1204
00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:34,460
time.

1205
00:45:34,540 --> 00:45:35,260
There she is.

1206
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:37,140
She's about to get into that van and

1207
00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:38,220
head cross country.

1208
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:40,860
And people want you to stop in their

1209
00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:41,400
city.

1210
00:45:42,620 --> 00:45:45,580
So, yes, already, Karen LaCava, we need big

1211
00:45:45,580 --> 00:45:47,440
time celebrity vegans to write and sing some

1212
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,020
vegan anthems.

1213
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:48,640
Yes.

1214
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,160
Yes.

1215
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:49,500
Yes.

1216
00:45:50,020 --> 00:45:52,060
So keep us posted.

1217
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,480
Feel free to let us know that you

1218
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,100
want to jump on from the road.

1219
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,920
And again, we are here in Los Angeles.

1220
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,960
That's our headquarters.

1221
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,400
Anything we can do here, because this is

1222
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,220
the second largest city in the United States.

1223
00:46:07,220 --> 00:46:11,380
And they say what happens in L.A.

1224
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,140
spreads to the rest of the country and

1225
00:46:13,140 --> 00:46:13,740
then the world.

1226
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:16,900
So maybe we can take part in a

1227
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:21,880
Los Angeles event and videotape it and make

1228
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,400
it a template, because the L.A. school

1229
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,920
system, I mean, my gosh, primarily children of

1230
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,280
color in the L.A. public school system.

1231
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,920
And so basically all these kids, well, every

1232
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,300
kid should be drinking plant milk.

1233
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:37,900
So keep us posted.

1234
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,440
I mean, you're doing amazing.

1235
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:39,600
Okay.

1236
00:46:39,780 --> 00:46:40,720
Thanks for the idea.

1237
00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:42,520
Somebody out there, write the song and get

1238
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,300
that over to a stat, because that's the

1239
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:47,540
song that we'll play when these athletes, when

1240
00:46:47,540 --> 00:46:49,760
Diana comes in with her basketball and Kendrick

1241
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,040
does a weightlifting competition.

1242
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,060
I mean, I think we can really, you

1243
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:54,440
know, because it does, it has to be

1244
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,540
high energy and exciting.

1245
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,820
These are middle schoolers, right?

1246
00:46:56,940 --> 00:46:59,540
Like we, this cannot be dry and boring.

1247
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,720
Yeah, exactly.

1248
00:47:00,740 --> 00:47:02,080
It's got to be a party when we

1249
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,480
arrive.

1250
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:02,780
Yeah.

1251
00:47:02,860 --> 00:47:04,500
And a lot of these kids are rappers

1252
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:06,560
and they know all sorts of the break

1253
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,940
dancing and everything else.

1254
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,080
So, all right.

1255
00:47:10,420 --> 00:47:12,460
Thank you so much, Doxie Bausch.

1256
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:13,940
You are amazing.

1257
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:14,940
Rock on.

1258
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,500
You're more amazing.

1259
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:17,260
Thanks, Jane.

1260
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,000
So it's a vegan Netflix.

1261
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Okay.

1262
00:47:20,580 --> 00:47:22,220
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

1263
00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:23,420
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1264
00:47:23,740 --> 00:47:24,300
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1265
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:25,460
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1266
00:47:25,620 --> 00:47:26,420
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1267
00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:27,600
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1268
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,460
Unchained TV has all sorts of content for

1269
00:47:30,460 --> 00:47:30,920
everybody.

1270
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:33,420
Unchained TV changed my life.

1271
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:36,520
Unchained TV is crushing it.

1272
00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:38,180
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1273
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,180
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1274
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,300
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1275
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:42,280
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1276
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:44,740
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