Sepultura’s Final UK Show Reflections and Metal Family with Andreas Kisser at Bloodstock

0:04 Hey, you love done to cure fore wow for you. Young, it's the pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with Andreas. Nice. See that's why I let you do it because. Sah, yeah like that that. That accent there, like I try sometime like, but I'm a great go That's all right, man. It's the same as it speaking English. You know.

0:46 We have our accent and the most important thing is the message. What the hell are we saying? Exactly? And I live in. South Florida, so we have a lot of Brazilians there, definitely, you know. And I always laugh because all the Floridians I always want to talk to you in Spanish. I know. Yeah, you know, we understand Spanish, but it's a completely different language and there's a lot of exactlarities, but it's very exactly. I think. The one word that always sticks in my mind that's in Portuguese. Is abrigado albrigado. That's very polite, yeah, exactly, if you're getting a word, that's the word. And I do speak Spanish, not very well, but I go to Costa Rica a lot of the time, you know, so I love it there and I want.

1:32 I want to. Actually I do festivals all over the US, UK, Europe, but I need to do rock and rio and bangers open air, like yeah you have to. I mean like it's getting bigger and bigger, especially Bangers because a very specific metal fest. Yes, that's why I like to place the door for so many new bands, especially in Brazil. You know, new new possibilities really, even for bands that never came down to Brazil to go and have the fastivo. We can do shows around and et cetera, and rock and real. It's fantastic. Nothing more fantastic I always know from bands and you know that the audience there, yeah, it is just insane.

2:15 Yeah, we are very musical naturally. You know, we have the carnival, which is a party that was born on the streets. You know, people playing percussive instruments and singing. You know. The Brazilian culture influenced by of course enslavement that came to from Africa and all. The European as well. You know, influences like classical music and rock and roll and all that stuff. You know, I think Saputura is a consequence of that. Yes, to to to all that influences that we got even from the indigenous you know, the native people in Brazil that we work on, roots and et cetera, which didn't have any of that influence, you know, even from Africa or from Europe, just like dealing with the sounds of nature and creating their own instruments and uh and Sepultura I think have a little bit of everything that we try to put in our music.

3:09 And once we start using these Brazilian elements, it puts a putui in a different place, you know, compared to other bands. One hundred percent. And what do you think it is about Brazil that the metal community is like so into it? It's not the same man. I mean, we love to party, I guess. We love together with friends, you know, and people to watch you know, our idols, you know, to go to see Kids or Maiden or festivals like Rock and Real. It's a it's a great family. Yeah, the heavy metal community is a beautiful family, very inclusive, you know, no bullshit, no cancelations. You know, Rob Halford came about being homosexual, you didn't see any cancelations any And I'm gonna say everybody really embraced of course.

4:01 That's why I love about the metal community, Like all the outsiders are on the inside at a metal festival. Yeah, women, a lot of women bands. We have a black singer Derrek Green, you know, with so many elements that have a metal it's built on it. Yeah, that's why it's the most popular style in the world. Simple to re visited more than eighty countries in forty two years of a story of a career. It's amazing, right, how music opened the doors regardless of politics they take their ship or religion. You know, it's amazing, very powerful. And what I'm really excited about is, first of all, we're here at Bloodstock, which is. One of my favorite festivals. Oh yeah, because of.

4:43 The community and the family. Like I got here, I was like I'm home with family now. Yes. And then the fact that I have the honor to interview you at your last thank. You performance ever, Like that was for me. It's not just interviewing you, it's that this is the last chance that happened in the UK. It's great, we feel great. We plan to be the way right we announced, We worked around this and it is truly a celebration. Yeah, we are having the best time of our lives, man, I mean the best tours. First show in UK was in at the Marquee Club in nineteen eighty nine opening for Sodom Wow tour.

5:25 That really showed us the world. We were four kids with no crew, no nothing, hardly speaking any English, you know, and there we were doing amazing history for not only for Sepultur, for the Brazilian and South American metal to plinging such an iconic you know, imagine like first show in England's at the Marquee Club. Man, Wow show is the Bloodstocks twenty fifth anniversary. Wow. Exactly, It's fantastic and like if you did you have any clue back then that. You would be morn now right. You know, when you dream, you have limitations on your dream and your imagination, and real life shows you that a dream can go much further. Reality can be much more intense than any dream.

6:16 You know, to us life it's a proof of that. You know, we could dream to play outside, to meet our idols, but we went much further, you know. Now. We have a song on or lest Ep that it's called Beyond the Dream and it talks about that. You know, we could dream to be a musician, to travel the world to record an album or to meet how For or Ausy and stuff like that. And we did all that. You know, we jammed together, we toured together, We even friends with our idols. That it still bothers me somehow, you know, not bothers. But it's it's kind of weird still talk to a metallic or. Real you know, it's real. It's great. Yeah, I was a Metallica's first show ever. I was at Slayer's first show ever. Amazing, and it blows my mind that bands like you and them are still here today because I never thought of that bigger than ever exactly.

7:06 You see Ben talking with twenty five people in the club, like, who would ever fucking figure? Yeah, you know, no shit, it's just that's what I mean. Because once you live your life in the present and absorbing new elements, learning new things. You know, life is That's what life is all about. Man. That's a privilege to travel the world, to have friends all around the world, to have fans you know that supports you and buy tickets and albums and merch and everything. You know, it's a it's it's so real, it's so truthful, right, it's a it's amazing. History that we we head behind and it feels great that we are finishing this in our own terms. You know, consciously why we're stopping when we're stopping, and uh, it feels great, man.

7:54 It's smart. It's smart, hope. So you know, going out on top, you know, and. And still young and feel great to go after new things, you know, to challenge ourselves and artists as and as people as well, to do new things, to explore new elements and it's great, man. And to put more time in stuff that we don't have too much time because of sepulturum. Yeah, family or friends and relationships and all that stuff that it's really hard when you are a musician, touring musicians, it's really really hardly aware of yeah, you know, away from the family, missing very important dates and et cetera. You know, it's one. Thing when you're young and you don't have that and then it's like who cares? True, But then once you have the family, it's hard.

8:42 Yeah, it's very hard. I have my son here today, actually my youngest you know, Enzo, it's twenty years old. First time on the road, you know, going to places for the first time, and that's great, you know, it's a great experience. That's what it's Cobalt metal too, Okay, Like I've put my son in his first marsh Pat and my grand children in their first mash bit. I still waiting for my grandchildren, so I don't that's the best, man, I'm ready. My grandchildren have actually done interviews for me, like them to festival and then like okay, you interview them, you know, And the bands love it too, because like, yeah, that's the thing. This community is about family and it is about and that's how we're going to keep metal going. Yes, you know, in our generation, you and my like my dad would never gone to a metal.

9:33 Show, you know. And so it's so cool that my kids like the same music I do. My grandkids like the same music I do. You know, metal it's like a worldwide phenomena. You see people from all over the world here. You get in touch with an American, with the Italian, with the Australian, you know, get in touch with different cultures. Yes, And I think. That's so important too, because the we all live in the school, you know, we live in this bubble, a lot of us, you know, and it's so cool to get out there in the world and discover that we're all just human beings, you know, and learning each other's cultures instead of trying to say I know everything and my God is better than yours, you know, faking the world up. You know, I have this idea to fix all the world problems. You want to hear it? Of course, I say. One major music festival that the whole world is required to attend, but the political leaders are banned from security, does not let them in, no speeches. Put everybody in the mash pit, will work it all out and all hug each other afterwards.

10:44 And that's totally that's why they scared of art and culture. Yes, on a fascist government or a dictatorship, the first one to suffer are arts. Yeah, movie theaters, music, paintings, poems, you know, newspaper text and whatever it was was the first. Why they burn books because they change people listen. In my country, as ridiculous as it sounds, so the state I live in, books are being remote from school. I can't teach certain things. I just saw recently the teacher got fired for teaching about the Holocaust. Jesus a principle had to formally apologize to Muslims and Arabs for having a class that taught the Holocaust as one example, and taking art out of the curriculum of school. It's so necessary, if for nothing else, not to become a musician, to be a well rounded.

11:45 Person because arts it touches you in a very unique way. Yeah, that's a self knowledge process exactly. Watch a painting or to paint yourself or you know, or listen to a music and whatever, you know, whatever art it helps you to self knowledge and for evolution, you know, self evolution. And that's what people are scared, you know, because they want us like stupid, you know, so they can control. Different, divide and conquer. I say it all the time. I say the politicians are all on the same team and it ain't mine. Yes, exactly. Well, I'm so happy that I'm here for your final performance or being your pit tonight. All right, fantastic and thanks for being on the Adventures pipe Man you're at Bloodstock.

12:33 Thank you so much. Man. Here's Andreas Kisser from Sepultura straight from Bloodstock Festival. We wre with Pipemin on W four Cy. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipeline. I'm w for CUI Radio.