Progressive Metal Band Entropist New Single “Intense Warmth,” & New Album, The Vision, drops June 26

0:04 Hi, you love done to censure? Wow, crazy young. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures of Pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm totally excited about, you know, talking about this next song that I just heard that is absolutely amazing. So let's welcome to show Solomon from Entropist. How are you. It's good, Dean, how about you? I'm doing great, man, And like I'm all pumped up from this interview after listening to your song. Yeah, glad to hear it, man. Yeah, we're really really proud of this thing. Super happy to like finally be able to share with the world and whatnot.

0:51 You know what I love about the song. Okay, so it's like old school to me in the sense of listen to it and for a while, because you know, we live in today's society, I'm thinking, hmmm, is that an instrumental and then boom it hits you. And that's why old school was like that, Like you like, people don't have the attention span for that the same amore to get through like the progression into you know, it's like the build up to me, it's so much better. Yeah, that's there's a lot of a lot of really paste out music. You know, I do feel like, you know, especially in the modern day, that like you know, writing an album that's an hour long and having all these like crazy songs that like stretch on forever and don't use like one or two ideas is like almost irresponsible.

1:47 Even it's really the music that got me here, you know, that's the most inspiring songs that I've ever heard, are like these ridiculous odyssees with just craziness and technicality that also like have a journey, you know, the emotional dynamic is just the whole thing to me. Please, I mean, good example, not a metal but could you imagine Dark Side of the Moon only being five minutes the whole album? Right, yeah, that would be weird, you know. And so and I love the musicianship part, which I think kids today maybe maybe they're getting back into it. I heard there it's starting to turn around a little bit. But the way these I guess, you know, well there you go. You know a lot of these streaming services they just want you to keep hitting track track track, and I think we are making a turnaround to go back to musicianship instead, like because I also found out from an artist that they've changed the way you're supposed to write songs nowadays, like you know, cut out the intro, cut out the solo, cut out the bridge only two versus immediately.

3:02 There's no yeah, there's no journey to it, right, Like it's really it's because of how music is popular, right, And there's always like going to be this dichotomy in my head of like, you know, music that people make for people to hear and to make money and to be played in you know, the coffee shop, in the grocery store or whatever else. And then there's music that people make for expressive purposes, right, yeah, you know, and the expressive stuff can like be anything from serious to you know, like you know, limp biscuit. But at the end of the day, like I think that what I find the most meaning and is the latter category of course, you know, like if it has to be like designed for TikTok, then like are you really still like you know, writing in the same way that you typically would Are you trying to write for your audience? You know?

3:45 And that you know, that's always been a problem for artists since the beginning and time, and I think it's only accentuated now, Like you know, before it was the record labels telling the artists how to create music and and look and everything else, and now it's TikTok telling you. Which to be fair, Like, you know, you can get really popular overnight. Honestly. We have a couple of buddies of ours who in like a band called Colbal Mountain and there they're vocalists, Like does this bit where he's like he's wearing a cowboy hat but he's doing he's just like death cores vocals right over the top craziness, right, you know. And he did like a cover of Toxic, like Britney Spears Toxic and like death Course Style on America.

4:34 And then some of the judges were like I'm out immediately, right because. It's so funny. How he was like, I want to see where this goes. I love it though, because like, all right, so it's funny. I have I have a couple of grandeurs there their swifties, okay, And so I played them the aversion, the I Prevail version of Blank Spaces, and one of them when we went in the house, I caught her. She was in her room. She looked it up and she was listening to that version I'm like, yes, perfect you you know, and you're so right about that because and I think metal is never supposed to be the type of music that you make for radio, for popularity or whatever. And I think pop has its place, like you're saying, like, there's pop music for a reason, but not every genre has to be pop.

5:36 Yeah, I mean, of course unless it's you know, unless we're trying to find music that's intended to be listened to but as many people as possible so we can actually profits, right, Like, you know, that's that's It's never been the priority for me. I've I do want people to be able to hear the music and connect with it. But that's just because this album means a lot to me. It's about, you know, really pivotal time in my life that you know, I if it wasn't if it wasn't for the other amazing musicians in this world, I wouldn't have made it through that. And yeah, you do that for one person on this earth, then you know, I will have done more than I could hope to with this, you know. But it's it's really about a journey of finding yourself and finding your place in this world, and you know, building something that's you know, that makes you feel self actualized and you know that. Yeah, I don't know.

6:26 It's about creating your purpose, right, that kind of thing. No, I see, I love it because I'm also a motivational speaker. So even the album named the Vision to me that I talk about that all the time, you know, but it is true also, It's like you know, artists, they they are expressing because they're going through something, but at the same time, they're expressing because they want other people to know they're not alone. Mm hmmm, damn straight. And that that's what means about to me, music is the best therapy. It's therapy for the artists and therapy for the listener, and what therapy you get at that is up to you. Like that's that's a sign to me.

7:11 That's a sign of a really good song, not one that TikTok says is a great song. To me, it's that song that you know, basically anybody can They don't have to have your meaning, but they put some meaning to it and it helps them in their life, you know, and they may have a total totally different perception of what your lyrics are than the artist, than the artist is meaning by them, and that's cool. Yeah, that's one of the most amazing things about it, right, Like the the experience of listening to it the experience of creating it are completely different things, right. You know, music is a lot, in a lot of ways, very much a language. I think that that isn't I'm not unique in using that analogy. But one of the things that I think is the most profound about that is really that by the time that you've converted the thought into language, you've changed it, yeah, a certain degree, and then what the other person has heard has also changed it yet again, right, because it's within the context of their own, you know, their own universe, their own memories, their own ideas of what those things mean. Right, And so when you start getting into like the abstract concepts like these, and when you start getting into the emotional, visceral impact of music, then it's just a different world for everyone, which.

8:27 Is now And everything you're saying is so spot on, And I kind of relate it to speaking a foreign language, like you know, like I go to Costa Rica a lot. I know Spanish, but I'm in my head, I'm thinking in English and then translating it and depending on the different countries you would go, it's not going to translate the same. Like you know, here in the States, we're taught the type of Spanish. It's only spoken Spain. So when you go to places like Costa Rica or Columbia or anything place like that, they don't. They translate it totally different what you're saying because you're not saying the way they speak Spanish, you know. And I think it's kind of the same thing. It's like, what are what you're saying, whether their habits, what's in their head that they're associating to whatever you're saying, and you you're trying to translate something and it never really comes across exactly.

9:23 Right, yeah, right. I think the way that you realize very much that you're still an animal, say, and you know, on whatever level it could be, we can we don't have to give to the philosophy all that. But one of the interesting things thereof is that like try talking to somebody who doesn't speak the same language as you, and you're back to being animals, right, right, exactly. You cannot convey these complex thoughts to one another. You you have better ability to communicate because it's the same species, right but if you don't actually speak the same language as them, then you're one like magical methodology of transmitting your thoughts to some body else is gone, and suddenly now you're just figuring it out right.

10:06 Like because to that other person, it's like listening to a dog bark like dogs communicating no clue what you're saying, you know. But that's where speaking like Arabic or Chinese and I have no chance at like understanding much much more than their tone of voice, their inflection expressions right exactly. And you know, that's where music is the great communicator, because I'm always fascinated by bands going to other countries singing in different language and those people may not speak the language at all, but they're singing your lyrics back to you and they know what it means. And that always kind of blows my mind. And that's the cool thing about music, because music is universal that straight.

11:00 Yeah, this is one of the really powerful things about. It, exactly. I that's part of why I wrote this album. Actually, there was a lot I felt like I needed to convey, and not just to like, you know, the people I knew, I needed to convey to the people who spoke this language, right, Like, oftentimes I'm asking myself why metal in a certain sense, because at the end of the day, metal as a genre, like just the sound of it is very harsh. It's intense, it's emotionally like gripping in a way that isn't even for people like so some people are just going to turn it off the second they hear a scream. Yeah, totally, you know, which is very fun. I was one of them when I was growing up. Honestly, I grew up in like, you know, seventies eighties music, right, like the Bops, the disco, right Stevie Wonder, that kind of thing. And these days then, like you know, screaming is just another language I speak in a sense, you know, right, right, That's just a way to communicate certain and emotions, certain experiences, certain feelings. And also sometimes it's only it's the only thing that actually fits musically.

12:07 It is a great way to get all your crap out too, because like people don't realize that things like the mash pit are not about us hurting each other. It's about making sure we don't hurt anybody in the outside world and getting all our crap out with it with a common person you know that that knows what we're thinking and knows what why we're there. You know, it's the environment of pure catharsis right. I've always referred to the metal concerts as the church for me, you. Know, oh, no doubt about it. And the funny thing is is I always laugh with a lot of ours because we we People think we're such scary people, metal heads, and it's like the farthest thing from like, I'll tell you a funny story. Uh So I had to cover two, Like I go on to our to media coverage of festivals all over the US, UK and Europe, and I had to cover two in one weekend once. So I had this girl that worked for me, she also co hosts my show. She was a country girl, never been to a rock show in her life, and so I'm like, you're gonna have to cover this gig and she was a little scared about it because it's it was metal, and I'm like, listen, I'm just gonna fill you in on something. Metal heads are like one big lovable family.

13:29 You know. The mosh pits aren't about hurting people. In fact that we have rules, like somebody falls, you pick them up. We're a big community. You go to these country shows where there's a bunch of drunk rednecks beating the shit out of each other, and you're scared of a metal show. And I was like, you're gonna go to this thing and you're gonna make some new friends, and you're gonna you might even find a boyfriend, and you're gonna see that we're not as scary as as your country people. People on the planet. Man, you can go and chat to like almost anyone of the. Show and are those outsiders. There's no like hate on anybody.

14:13 We're all outsiders on the inside, is the way I kind of look at it, you know. And so here's the funniest part. She comes back after the weekend and she's like, oh my god, you are so right. I have all these new friends now, and I tea bag some guy and he's now my boyfriend. And I have this new favorite band. I don't know if you know them. They're called Bring Me to Horizon. Like, yeah, I think I know who they are. But you know, it's proven over and over again, like maybe if you had an outlet like metal, then you would be a nicer person in the real world. Maybe all these other people that are assholes, they just don't have metal as an outlet.

15:00 Agreed, Yeah, dude, Honestly, I feel like going deep into an emotion is part of what music's about, and that's the hard part about music as well, right I The basis in my band is Name's Jeremy. He's like way into like sad music, man, Like you know, he's always have been on like Porcupine Tree and Stephen Wilson. He's like on ethel Kaye these days, that kind of thing, right, Gespotcho, that type of deal, and I could I like when when I was in college, I couldn't fuck with that because I couldn't go deep into sad, you know, like I literally, well the way and this may be, you know, perhaps an immature way of handling, and I would argue it was. But when I was younger than like, one of the ways I would just handle emotions is I would figure out a way to convert into anger and then I would use that and like listen to metal and boom emotion salt. Right, Ye, A reasonable equation in a certain sense doesn't work for everything, of course, But I've actually only recently been able to start, like you know, engaging on very different emotional levels. Now that this album is done, Yeah, I can listen to like whatever the heck I want, you know, which is kind of.

16:07 Fun nice, And I love that all you keep talking about is like passion and emotion in creating this album, because to me, that's some of the greatest music there is out there, Okay, you know. And I also have to say it's very interesting I was thinking about when it came to you guys. So I've talked a lot since COVID about I think some of the best music what we will have will come out of that time of COVID, because artists got a chance to jump off the hamster wheel and create again and like have that deep reflection to really create music postages writing a song on a tour bus on the way to the next gig, you know, and constantly, Like I know so many artists that kind of change course from COVID because they never stopped to think of that's is that where they wanted to go. It's like they went that way and then they're just stuck on that treadmill going that way opposed to same. Wait a minute, I think that's where Ali from bringing and bring the Horizon was totally smart because he did go all over the place, and the latest song by them I just heard is like their original death chort, right, So I think, you know, that kind of helped that creativity come back. Maybe, you know, because maybe Ali was bored with doing that same stuff all over again and doing all that other stuff created the

17:38 excitement to come back. So to me, like with your band, basically it was you're like a phoenix coming out of COVID with this music, you know, right, you know, so I think it's the same concept. It's I think I think probably all you were able to basically reflect and finally decide where you want entropists to go. Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean that was COVID was a really interesting era, you know, especially for like myself. You know, you can. You can call it like negative in whatever ways it was, but it certainly was a time for everybody collectively in the world simultaneously to reflect on life. Yeah, what it means to actually be here, why they're doing what they're doing.

18:30 If you are forced to stop just running on the treadmill, as you're saying, then you have to actually decide, like wait, am I getting back on that treadmill. There's like a door over here, you know, right that way, right, like where am I going? Am I? Why am I doing this? Right? So, you had a lot of bands that just stopped after COVID because they were like, wait a second, why are we doing this? This is too much. We got to like give in the bus and drive all over the freaking country all the time, make another only every single time, over and over and over again. You know, like some of them are like losing money doing that process. And they're like wow, like and you're not even thinking about some kids. Dude, Like And on the on the other side, you're right, some of the most like amazing creative music that I've heard in years is coming out like very recently, partially because you know, people have had that time I think, you know.

19:15 Yeah, exactly the time to write it properly, but also the time to figure out what you want to write instead of just writing. Yeah, that was kind of realizing the vision in this case right. There, it is there. It is so. Tell us the vision of intense warmth, because I did get some intense warmth listening to that song. Yeah. So the vision actually has two meanings in a sense. One of them is actually like in the real world, right, It's this band as I call it, has always been in my head more of a project, right. It's it's it's not just the band, it's the community behind it.

20:00 It's the artist that we have designing things. Is the fact that like everyone converges on this one spot and we have people from all these different courses of our lives come and just hang out, whether or not they like metal. I hope to get more people who do, right, But that's you know, it's it's so profound to have like a time that you can have all these people from these different walks of life that you've encountered for all kinds of different reasons come out for the same thing. You know, I love it, And that's really the core of what this is to me, at least, you know, it's really about building up the metal community in the in you know, in the modern day, right, and giving us a place to be right. And so the other side of the vision is actually about you know, I wish I could slap up the Actually no, I can't slap with the aldmar.

20:49 Behind me was my I'm glad you're talking about that too, because I was going to go to the artwork because this is. Actually the original original painting that my wife did. Yeah, I was gonna bring up your wife actually did the artwork, and I think that's killer, and I'm all about artwork, you know, like that's an hard thing we're missing nowadays. And now you know, you have albums coming back, thank god, because like there was nothing. It was such a multi sensory experience to get a record album, you know, it wasn't just listening to a song. And so I always love album artwork. To me, I think it's the coolest stuff because it definitely it allows you to dig even deeper and kind of looking at well, listening to music, you kind of like going to his zone. Yeah, you're going to the zone of the music totally. And so that and I love hearing that was your wife that did it.

21:54 Yeah, that's it is. It's so meaningful to me to like kind of gotten too life, you know, have her make something for this and then just like put it out there, and it just it perfectly reflects the entire first arc of this story that's being told. So like there's like the real story of like me just not knowing what I wanted to be and how like how I was supposed to function in society and if I even want to be here in the first place, right, and eventually coming out of that. Right. But it's also about like this huge, fantastical story that I've been writing for like the last decade, right that has like angels and demons, and this particular moment that you see in the album artwork is actually essentially an all consuming entity simply you'd referred to as the Void, which you'll hear more about it in the song I Hunger.

22:42 I'm really excited to be able to hear that one. It's like super heavy, nice, But basically the story starts in a dilapidated version of Hell, kind of in the modern day, and I didn't rehearse this part, so like, I'm going to try to not me under too much, but there is this demon in there who has kind of seen the collapse over the past several hundred years, and you know, instead of like instead of just like burning hell escapes and volcanoes and you know, everything that you'd imagine like infinite waves of torture machines, right, instead, it's almost chill relatively speaking, everything has been reduced to simply an intense warmth, right treasonly going to grow there.

23:31 They immediately get incinerated, but they are still there, which has never been seen before. And he's not happy. He remembers the old days. He wants to essentially return things to the hell of old, where like simply the mention of its name would strike terror into people's hearts, right, And he kind of ends up like, you know, leaving his society, wandering out in the middle of nowhere pretty much. And he is given a vision by the Void, which is in the form of the void actually like speaking to him, so to speak. It's not like a you know, an entity with a mouth or anything, but my hunger is supposed to be essentially a representation of the voice of the Void itself, nice speaking in his head. And the power of this thing is so monumental that it's going to it's consuming all that exists, all that doesn't as well, right like, it's going to consume our entire universe.

24:32 It's going to consume Hell eventually, it's going to consume Heaven. It's going to consume everything. It is the breakdown of the very fundamental laws that hold things together. M both really in celestial right. I love it, and. Like when he hears its voice, it actually basically shatters his mind and it like makes them pass out in the middle there for like centuries, and when he comes to then suddenly he he he's resolute in what he's doing next. And there's more to the story. I'm only gonna reveal that much, but that's kind of the first arc of this story, right. I love it choosing that when to summon this.

25:17 Voyd, And I think another thing about your wife doing the artwork is who better to do it? But somebody that kind of knows you probably better than anybody, and probably can paint the picture better than anybody. Because of that, you know the vision, so to speak, because it is like it's funny, my dad was an artist and I have one one painting in my condo of his that basically I see something very different than everybody else sees because I knew him, and like in this painting, I can see the darkness of his personality. I can see his dark side and people just see a pretty picture most of the time. And if I say that to him, they're like, what are you talking about? And that's because they didn't know what was going through his mind. When he was painting it, you know type of thing, and I think that's key. That's the same thing here is.

26:20 You know your wife knew what was going through your mind and what you've experienced that she had the vision of how to paint the Vision. Yeah, right there you go. So tell everybody how they can check out the new music. Of course, we have the full length album The Vision dropping on the marrow. Yeah yeah, and so let's tell everybody how they can get it, how they can check out everything about you guys and support you guys, or else they can us show. Check us out. We are Entropis band on almost everything and camp h YouTube, Spotify, Instagram, Facebook, you name it.

27:08 The all. The Vision will be available on all streaming platforms like from you know, Spotify to Deezer to Title to quobazz to whatever, the iHeartRadio and everything. Nice. So yeah, we're super excited to be sharing this with the world. This this thing is a progmenttal monster. At risk of tooting my own horn, check out at least the longest song that you're willing to check out, because there's some unexpected stuff in this thing. I love it. And you know what, if you weren't your biggest fan. We can't be your biggest fan. So I don't even look as tooting your own horn, because if you don't think it's a masterpiece, who else is going to?

27:58 Yeah? I think I think it's a freaking baller album. Man. There's so many crazy headbanging parts. There's some cool like proggy stuff, there's some jazzy elements. There's like an instrumental song on there that I you know, I think that is a lot of people's individual favorites. Everyone has come back to me saying that they have a different song is their favorite song. And that I love that is good. You know that's that sends a lot. And I like the blending of genres, Like used to be metal, you had to be pure. You were either this type of metal or that type of It's all bullshit because like the way you get some unique, long lasting music no matter what it is, is it not being able to be put in a box.

28:38 Mm hmmm, and uh yeah. I every time someone asks me to do so, i'm i'm I'm struggling. So now I don't have to try to explain it to people. I can just say give it a listen. There it is. I I think nowadays, a whole idea of genres as bullshit because there's so many subgenres and micro genres and it's like really like it's just it's just exactly, and music's not supposed to have rules, you know. And to me, the whole idea of metal, you know, coming from the beginning of metal, was experimentation, not formulation, and it's like almost now with all these subgenres and micro genres, a lot of metal is formula driven. And so that's why I love about your music because it took me on a journey and that's what music should do.

29:32 Thank you man. So you keep doing it. What enjoys experiencing the journey? Yeah, exactly, you keep doing it. And thanks for being on the Adventures Pipemin. Yeah, thanks for having me man. It's been a great chat. Definitely. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on w for CUI Radio.