PipemanRadio Interviews Wisconsin's Powerhouse Metalcore Band ARCHERS About New Single Never Enough

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0:45 Your kids will convincer since you. My not being made And tonight is the same que awayte of the bets frame. The sin is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with our next guest, who is just a couple hours north of me, because they have a show in Orlando tonight, and I'm like, well that I can't believe they scheduled this interview, right Beflorida show because that's pretty badass most and may not unless you're up there at the venue. So it's pretty cool. You're down here in South Florida a little warmer than home for.

1:26 Ye, definitely, it's I think it's like eight degrees back home right now, maybe even less. Yeah, they're getting a lot of snow out there. Yeah, it might even be too hot for you here at this point, you know. Actually, right now I'm killing It's a it's a brisk like fifty sixty degrees. So we're doing all right. Imagine everyone here is freezing, but they've all got coats on. Oh yeah, well listen, this is Florida. When it gets to seventy five, they put on their parkoes. Okay, right, But it is wild because the humidity. It is colder here, because like I'm from Jersey. If it's forty in Jersey, I'll go out on a T shirt. Oh sure, Yeah here I'm freezing at forty.

2:09 It's tough. In Wisconsin, it's it gets It definitely gets humid during the summer, but real dry in the wintertime. So you know, it's kind of a kind of a it's better that way because it's like it's wet during the winter, like it's a wet cold. Yeah, but you guys are gonna kick gass here tonight at the abbey. Yeah, I think it's I think it's sold out. I think it is sold out. I looked right before getting on and it is sold out. Yeah, I'm excited. It's gonna be a fun night. There's already a huge line all the way around the corner. Everybody seems to be really excited. They've all got their show faces and show t shirts on, so I think everybody's ready to party. I'm ready to go to it's gonna be fun, and it's gonna be fun. And you're you're newest single, Never Enough.

2:53 That's a badass song. Are you gonna play that tonight? Oh? Hell yeah, yeah absolutely, we're for sure playing We've been playing that every night so on this tour and it's been received so well. We're so grateful. And then of course the way it's been going online has just been super awesome, so we're really encouraged. People have been loving it. They've been telling us all sorts of nice things about it, so and it rips. It's so much fun to play live, and I think that translates to the audiences pretty well as we're doing it. So yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Dude, I was you know, you're always like a little worried about how it's going to be received, But all those worries were for not because it has been going great. You know. I love hearing that, and yeah, it is true though, because when you're having fun, that makes a world of difference.

3:35 Like us to listeners, we can tell if you're having fun or you're you're having like a peripheral moment. Yeah, but I gotta tell you too, this song like this probably appeals to every person walking the face of the earth, and I know for myself, it's definitely hits home for me. I mean, first of all, I have two ex wives that I had that I had that same scenario with. I seem to everybody I ever pick in my whole life that same scenario. And you live in a world right now that Oh my god, I just want to isolate because I don't even like anybody I used to like anymore.

4:21 Yeah, dude, Yeah, I feel like we know a little bit too bounched about everybody these days. You know. It's a little scary. Yeah, So it's a relatable song. It's I think that was kind of something we wanted to hit a few like you want. We wanted to be a little relatable, and uh, it's something that I've been going through or not been going but gone through in recent years. So it was right on the tip of my mind or a tip of my tongue, whatever you want to name. So it's just kind of what came out in the studio. So tell the listeners from your perspective as the artist, what the song means to you. It's absolutely a song about toxicity and relationships. You know, it's a real struggle to kind of convince yourself to do the right thing in those scenarios because you've got all this pressure telling you to stay together everyone. You know, you've got all these preconceptions of what a relationship is supposed to be. Maybe there's history at play, there's so many reasons that are like, oh, but if I just stay a little longer, you know, But the reality is, in so many of those situations, you're just hurting yourself and you're hurting the person you're with, like you're being dishonest.

5:30 And I feel like that's what we wanted to try to find, and that song was like just how bleak it feels sometimes being in the throes of just like you feel you feel stuck, you feel like you can't move and there's nothing you can do except give into your worst vices. And that's kind of where that song goes. It's a bit we try to keep it a bit open ended so that like everyone can kind of assign their stories to it, you know, so that people can find their meaning within it. But yeah, that's generally the rule off like the idea for that song, and I. Think that that's the way it should be. The last review I was talking about that too, like if you're going to write a song like it has meaning to you as the artist, but then the listener like myself, can put my own meaning to it as well.

6:14 Absolutely, I think that's almost it's almost as important because like as an artist, I I for sure write music more for me than I do for the fans, sure, but I absolutely want them to be able to get something out of it. And the whole music connects everything, you know what I mean, So it only makes sense that people are going to try to connect with something, and the most powerful tunes out there are the ones you can connect with, you know. So to do that, you have to have something that's. Like that has that relatability you have to have you have to have that ingrained in there somewhere, and you know, you don't necessarily have to as an artist. There's plenty of artists out there that talk about things that no one's got any idea what they're talking about, but like, who, like, do what you want to do? That's just I find that if you if you have a message and you want someone to be able to feel a thing, you got to leave a little space for them in there, you.

7:05 Know, no doubt. I love that because that makes you a true artist, because yes, you are writing it for you, but you want to help others at the same time, because music's therapy for both of us. And I gotta tell you too, Like, how about the people that are in these toxic relationships they finally do leave and then like a few years later, they're back in that relationship because I don't know, it's like it's almost like a comfort zone. It's a comfort zone the toxicity itself. You know, I think people are more I don't know.

7:48 I don't want to generalize, but it's so easy to be comfortable even in misery, you know what I mean. Like it's so easy to like, as long as your status quo is met, there are so many things that we can just let slide. And like it really speaks to just how much people value their lives and their time here on this earth that like they would just let those years slip away just in misery. You know, it's not like a rule of the world that you have to be miserable. Like there's a lot of miserable shit about the world, but like you don't have to be You can choose joy. You can choose to find that little thing that keeps you happy, or you know, to do the thing, the big thing that's gonna hurt in the short term but gonna help you in the long run. And we all have had addictions of some sort.

8:30 Everybody relapses. Some people really have a really strong connection to love itself, you know, and they can't A lot of people can't handle them, just like being alone, and it's tough. It is tough to be alone. So like you know, it's it's just a give and take, and you just hope that wherever you end up it's it's somewhere positive, you know. And then if it's not positive, that you do the work it takes to get there, because it's possible no matter what. Well, you know, it's funny when we're young, or at least I'll speak for myself, when you think the toxicity is cool and you think the trauma bonding is cool. Yeah, I can definitely see that. I mean, you know, I'm not I'm not old yet, but I'm not young.

9:10 Anymore either. So, like I've been uh, you know, I've been around a couple of times, and I've definitely been in that position. It's like when you're younger, it's it feels cool to be a little edgy, you know what I mean. And you think, but I don't know. You gotta live your life. You gotta whatever steps you gotta take to get to where you gotta be, you know, take those steps. Some people gotta rebell, some people gotta go the wrong direction to get to the right side. You know. So like and everybody's path is different, and to say one is less than another is silly. So absolutely everybody's got a different path, and you know, everybody has these things. And that's the beauty of music is that people you can have everybody like finding something in a song like this that appeals to their life and gives them therapy.

10:00 You know, absolutely. I can't tell you how many times, especially on tours like this, you know, you get someone coming up to the merch table just saying. Like, hey, this song really helped me get through a hard time. Man. You know a lot of times, you know, it's it's tough to be coming right off that position to like you know, I just got off stage. I'm like, you know, huffing and puffing, trying to like get back to some sort of normal and the fans trying to be super hard. Felt you got to be like find a way to like zap yourself back into the moment to be like, oh my god, thank you right so much, you know, to hear that, because that's I mean, that's part of the goal. Like it's not I'm not gonna sit here and be like my whole goal to be a musician is so I can reach out and touch people's hearts. But like I want that, you know, of course, I want to be able to leave a mark and to like help hope that some of my the things that I've worked through is somebody that someone else can use, you know, Like I.

10:45 Absolutely want that. And be able to like have that interaction with a fan on the days is always really fun. What was that first moment in your life where you thought of what why you should be in music? Well, it's for me. I just kind of always had that. It just it's always been in me. I don't know, ever since I was a kid. I grew up in a choir, you know, I was a church kid. I grew up around the church, really strict Baptist, so it's all piano and hymnals and things like that. So I grew up just singing, you know. Everybody in my family was just singing all the time and playing music and it. At some point I remember being like, mom, I don't want to play piano anymore because I can't carry it on stage. And that's like, you know, a little die know that keyboards existed at the time, but I was a sheltered boy, so but yeah, I just have always had this drive to be there, even before I knew what it was. You know, when you grow up in the church, you are you're generally very sheltered. So like I didn't know what a rock show was. I didn't know that like people gathered at venues to like watch live music. I knew that there was a church five miles down the road when I sang in Praise Jesus once every Sunday.

11:57 That's about as far as I knew, you. Know, so like, but there was always still something in me that was like this is uh, this is it, you know, and I never I never even thought for a second about anything else, not this whole time. I wish you wulin a sometimes, but you know, now. That we're here and now the things are going as encouraging as they are, you know, I'm I've just been so grateful to have stayed on the course this whole time, you know. And so after that experience, what was the first thing that exposed you to medal? Oh, to medal? Well, like I said, a group in the church and like church courts was a big deal back in like two thousand and five, two thousand and seven, you know, like you had like doublears Prada doing the church. Yeah, I had like you know, some more like like on the religious idea of like Disciple and like uh other bands like that.

12:45 So it just kind of was there. You know. I was a youth leader, so it was a big deal. By the time I was in high school, I was going to like a regular church that it was like had like rock band worship teams that kind of thing. So like by then it was like it was the cooling, you know, to wear the I wrestled bear One's T shirt at youth group. So it was there. It was always there. And to be perfectly honest with you, for the first three years of being exposed to it. I was not a fan. I was like, who did this? Who decided that this was supposed to be cool? I want to talk to a manager, But like, you get worn down over time, and eventually I was like, you know, okay, that's just kind of neat. I kind of like it. And I think it was the band Memphis Mayfire that really changed my perspective. It was hearing the Hollow that record, yeah, and just being like, oh, you can. You can do this and still be like melodic and have this great powerful voice and he doesn't have to be like strict three note choruses. Okay, great, I'm super in you know, so I was. That's kind of what it hooked me.

13:43 It for sure was like it wasn't the heavy bits. The heavy bits were like the all right, I'll deal with this to get to the singing part. And then I and then I eventually started to fall in love with them too. You know, you start to develop like an appreciation, your ear develops a little bit better, and you start to understand what the hell people are saying. Finally like, oh this shit kind of rips you know, so. Yeah, and I love for me. I love that and I love what you say about Memphis Mayfar because Maddie is like one of the nicest guys on the face of the earth, and like people have this perception of metal, you know, and some of the most brutal singers are like heavy duty Christians, Like Tom Mariah has always been a major Christian. Back in the day, he would laugh that people thought he was a devil worshiper.

14:31 Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean, dude, I've been doing the tearing thing from out maybe. Maybe six years now decently, and most of the people that I've met, we just want to hang out with our cats. Right, We're up there like screaming our heads off, doing dumb shit, try to look big, bad and cool. But they're like, we got off stage. We're just like opening up snapchats from our girlfriends to try to see her kiddies. Like that's really generally how metal dudes work, Like, I love some of us are trying to be hard, but like we all kind of make fun of them real with you, Like, well. You know what's funny about that is I've talked about that with artists at festivals doing an interview, and like we're like and they also be like, but let's not let anybody know that we're actually like this.

15:16 You know, I am on a bachelor myself. Everybody that I know and then run with that. I think are the cool people are always going to be the most honest about that stuff. Like I don't know, man, it's so easy to be genuine. Yeah, it's not hard. It's a lot easier. It's a lot, yeah, absolutely, And like I just kind of gravitate their artist types of people just generally speaking. You know, if there's a big actor, someone's cool guying, you know, like good for you. I'm just gonna hang out do my own thing. There you go. I just tell people you do you that's your point. Man. Let people live live and let live there. It is so tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys on socials, on the web, Get your music, buy your merch because it's most important, because that's how you can keep playing for us and putting music.

16:04 I mean, the best way to stay connected is gonna be like probably TikTok or Instagram, Instagram, especially if you want to know about tours. We just we have the biggest following. I think they're so like we have just the larger reach so go follow us on Instagram at Archers US. You can also find us on TikTok through the same handle. And if you do follow us on TikTok, We've got a little link We had a little link tree. It takes you to all of our stuff. It's got merch, it's gonna have ticket sales, it's gonna have everything that you need to stay connected with us. It's on our TikTok at Archer's US. You can check that out. And if there any tiktoks that you've done that you're like, oh, I can't believe I did that. Oh dude, every single one I do, I can't handle. It's crazy. It's so coach. I've got a basis who's really really good with the TikTok stuff. So I'm very grateful.

16:46 I don't have to deal with that. I have to do stuff here and there, and I don't mind it. I just kind of turn off my cringe switch and just do it, you know, and then I'll just like wrig my hands later. I don't know. I'm kind of but I just gotta go and like, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's it's just the nature of the business these days, like TikTok is really important and whether you like it or not, just do it like it's worth it. It's good. It works out in the end. There you go. Well, you guys are gonna kick ass there tonight at the Abbey in Orlando, and uh, thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man and can't wait to see more of you. You guys are gonna be at other festivals this year too, right. Yeah, we've got actually I think we're so we've got some European stuff coming up, and then we'll be announcing some stuff throughout the rest of the year. I'm not sure when yet. We don't have a lot of solid details, but I know we're doing some European festivals. I'm hoping that we get to come around to some of these US ones, but most likely we're going to be focused on Europe this summer and then coming back and hint, they're hard next year.

17:48 On the on the festival circus, that's the goal. You know, everybody's nice and you're going on to tour supporting Catch your Breath. Yeah, that's where we're out with right now. You're on right now, it's us Catch your Breath. The funeral portrait and if not for me, honestly, it's in is it's gonna It's literally this is the future of metalcore peup. Essentially, it's what it feels like. It's however, it's just like that electricity they used to feel at shows back in like two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and you'd be like, oh, there's something happening here, and it's super cool because like all these bands are right on the cusp of something majorly cool and I'm so stoked to be a part of it. Well, I'm stoked you're a part of it too. And I'll be at some of those festivals and festivals in the UK and Europe, so hopefully i'll see you there too.

18:30 Awesome, that'd be great. Well, thank you for having me man. Hey, my pleasure. Thanks for being here, and thanks for making us great music and being a good role model. I do my best, you know, I'll say, be I don't know if I go so far to be a role model, but I do my best. There you go, all right, I have a great show, you two. Thank you so much, Tay every good one. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of fight Man. I'm W for Cui ray Gil